Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
On 12/07/2012 10:15 AM, Claudius Hubig wrote: Hello Hans-J., "Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: But when I switch to multiarch, and add i386 (dpkg --add-architecture i386), and want to make an upgrade, then debian wants to install a lot(!) of new libs from i386. Why that? WTF? New libs? They are not needed (as everything is working well), and I do not want to fill my system with unnecessary stuff! Never! Yes there is, ia32-libs-* are superseded by multi-arch and no longer maintained/updated. Skype works perfectly with multi-arch here, I did not test google earth late, though. Best, Claudius What if you have a package that specifically depends on ia32-libs? Specifically icaclient (citrix) which I use to connect to me work computer from home. Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c2f124.3040...@gmail.com
Re: raid recomendation
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 01:18:38PM -0300, Roberto Scattini wrote: > hi, i have a new dell r720 server with 5 600gb disks. > his function will be a postgresql server (the size of the databases is > really small with 600gb we should be fine for a long time). > > which raid configuration would you recommend? > i was thinking in raid 5 with all five disks but i am not a expert. > > i prefer redundandcy against size (i mean, i can sacrifice space). and i > dont want performance degradation for doing raid with an incorrect number > of disks. I'll be the first one in this thread to recommend ZFS [1]. With 5 disks, I would personally do a RAID-1+0, with a hot spare. A RAID-1 will outperform a parity-based RAID using the same disks every time, due to calculating the parity. Further, striping across two mirrors will give increased performance that parity-based RAID cannot achieve. Lastly, you can suffer any sort of disk failures, provided all mirrors in the stripe remains in tact. 1: http://zfsonlinux.org If you must absolutely do a parity-based RAID, then I would suggest a 5-disk RAIDZ-1 without a hot spare. It's "best practice" to use the power of two, plus parity for your number of disks. In this case, it will give you the best performance, decent space, and allow for 1 disk failure. Further, I would recommend the investment in two Intel 300-series SSDs. You can then partition the SSDs giving 1 GB on each in a mirrored ZIL, and the rest to a striped L2ARC. For a PostgreSQL DB, you will see immensive performance gains that you cannot achieve with Linux-based software RAID and filesystems. And, because ZFS is also a volume manager, there is no need for LVM and the cache troubles it's plagued with [2]. 2: http://serverfault.com/questions/279571/lvm-dangers-and-caveats If interested, I've been blogging on this very topic. You can see the relevent posts to your setup here: * Installing ZFS on Debian: http://pthree.org/?p=2357 * The ZIL: http://pthree.org/?p=2592 * The ZFS ARC: http://pthree.org/?p=2659 Just my $.02. -- . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . . . o . o o o . o . o o . . o o o o . o . . o o o o . o o o pgpDxZ39JLKBv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Restarting Networking in Debian
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Steve wrote: > Carlos Mennens gmail.com> writes: >> >> What is the deal now with 'restarting' networking services in Debian 5 >> & Squeeze? I use to be able to run the command: >> >> /etc/init.d/networking restart >> >> Now when I do so in Debian, I get a strange error: >> >> Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may >> not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). >> Reconfiguring network interfaces...done. >> >> Not to mention any changes I made to my static IP address in >> '/etc/network/interfaces' didn't take effect which leads me to believe >> the command I ran above didn't restart the network daemon or is not >> forcing it to look for changes. >> >> I asked on the forums and I can't get a straight answer as to what is >> the official command in Debian to restart the networking daemon? There >> can't be six different answers and someone on the dev team has to have >> a official correct command to do something as simple as restarting >> networking. > > Hello, I am probably too late to answer this question, but you are correct: > both > "service networking restart" and "/etc/init.d/networking restart" do not run > correctly. There are two easy options, though. 1st is so issue the same > command > twice once as "service networking stop" and again as "service networking > start". > The second is the command to stop and then start, issued by the command > "service networking --full-restart". If the NICs have an "auto " (or "allow-auto ") line, they can be controlled with "service networking ..." or "ifup|ifdown -a" (or "ifup --all"/"ifup --allow=auto"). If the NICs have an "allow-hotplug " line, they can be controlled with "ifup|ifdown --allow=hotplug". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxkWNYg0ogKsB-0JH1BovuVH3Sv=gpmHppx75=2vqy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Hans-J., please don’t CC me as I read the list. "Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: > Ok, but if they are "reinstalled", then the old libs should be deinstalled. > But they will not. So I have some libs double on my system. Last time you complained that ia32-libs was being deinstalled, now you don’t want it to be deinstalled? To make it clear: You do need two versions of some libs (such as libc6), one for amd64 and one for i386. Previously, ia32-libs contained all the i386 libs one usually needed. Now you can install both versions side by side. > > Yes there is, ia32-libs-* are superseded by multi-arch and no longer > > maintained/updated. > But the new ia32-libs are (if I am not wrong) in the amd64-repository, but > cannot updated, as its dependencies are in i386-repo. That is no good idea. Yes it is, as it allows you to update ia32-libs to the new, transitional package which will then pull in the i386 stuff replacing the old ia32-libs. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207212911.60027...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Restarting Networking in Debian
Carlos Mennens gmail.com> writes: > > What is the deal now with 'restarting' networking services in Debian 5 > & Squeeze? I use to be able to run the command: > > /etc/init.d/networking restart > > Now when I do so in Debian, I get a strange error: > > Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may > not enable again some interfaces ... (warning). > Reconfiguring network interfaces...done. > > Not to mention any changes I made to my static IP address in > '/etc/network/interfaces' didn't take effect which leads me to believe > the command I ran above didn't restart the network daemon or is not > forcing it to look for changes. > > I asked on the forums and I can't get a straight answer as to what is > the official command in Debian to restart the networking daemon? There > can't be six different answers and someone on the dev team has to have > a official correct command to do something as simple as restarting > networking. > > Hello, I am probably too late to answer this question, but you are correct: both "service networking restart" and "/etc/init.d/networking restart" do not run correctly. There are two easy options, though. 1st is so issue the same command twice once as "service networking stop" and again as "service networking start". The second is the command to stop and then start, issued by the command "service networking --full-restart". As the name implies it is essentially the same restart command, but it issues "start" and then "stop" Steve -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20121207t220933-...@post.gmane.org
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hi, Dňa Fri, 7 Dec 2012 19:54:33 +0100 "Hans-J. Ullrich" napísal: > But the new ia32-libs are (if I am not wrong) in the > amd64-repository, but cannot updated, as its dependencies are in > i386-repo. That is no good idea. I agree, there are some problems, but all can be solved: ia32-libs depends on ia32-libs-i386 the ia32-libs-i386 is in i386 repo: LANG=C aptpo ia32-libs-i386 ia32-libs-i386:i386: Installed: 1:0.4 Candidate: 1:0.4 Version table: *** 1:0.4 0 500 http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/ testing/main i386 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status it is accessible after: dpkg --add-architecture i386 aptitude update After this, installing the ia32-libs can be done with only one conflict on my system - i must to replace the libjack0 (amd64) library by the libjack-jackd2-0 (amd64). I am not able to write about difference between these two packages, because i don't know :-) More problems appears while installing the ia32-libs-gtk, where was more conflicts, but all conflicting libraries was not depends, but only recommends (or suggests - i am not sure now), then i manually removed them and this solves the problem and i386 libraries are installable. Perhaps this solution (removing conflicts i386 libraries) will not work in future and some libraries will be missing, but i will solve it, when the problem happens ;-) Whole this procedure i have done right now, but i have only one 32bit package right now and it is my custom package (the old good wink), where i have no proper (multiarch) dependency yet, then i uninstall it. By this, i have no tested, if installation works. I hope, that this can help. regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: iceweasel tab groups: 100% cpu load
2012/12/7 Andrei POPESCU > On Vi, 07 dec 12, 12:29:36, Davide Anchisi wrote: > > Hi, > > > > it is very frustrating when I use tab groups in iceweasel, because it is > so > > slw. > > The problem seems to be xorg which loads the cpu to 100% when displaying > > and managing tab groups. > > I have the same problem on occasional web pages. > > > > My system: > > - cpu: Intel Core2 Duo 64 bit; > > - debian amd64, stable and testing; > > - iceweasel 16.0.2 (but I had the problem also with version 10.x and > > previous); > > - video card nNVIDIA quadro135M and nvidia driver > > (nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-2.6.32-3-amd64). > > Are you sure you need the -legacy driver? Quadro NVS 135M is supported > by the latest driver. > > Kind regards, > Andrei > -- Thanks Andrei! I installed the last driver and that solved the problem. I didn't realize that it supported the Quadro NVS 135. Best regards, Davide
Greeter with language selector for wheezy
Hi folks, Does anyone know of a greeter with a language selector for wheezy? My site uses Debian squeeze workstations with Xfce that need support for both English and Dutch. Currently we use gdm, a display manager with few dependencies that has a greeter with a working language selector. Soon, however, we'll be upgrading to Debian wheezy, in which gdm has been dropped in favor of gdm3, which has very many Gnome dependencies. Worse, it has no language selector. Nor does kdm (which also has many dependencies), xdm, wdm, or slim. Lightdm does have a language selector when lightdm-gtk-greeter is also installed, but this selector doesn't work due to a bug that's present in both the Debian wheezy (and sid) and experimental versions of these packages. Apparently lxdm has a language selector, but there's still no Debian package for it. With no language selector in the greeter, Gnome desktop users are now apparently expected to set this by using the gnome-control-center or the the DBus interface. Xfce, however, does not seem to have this option, which is why I need a greeter with a language selector. A method that I do not want to use is to set wheezy's default locale to English or Dutch. I want to leave that choice up to the users who share these workstations, and as sysadmin I prefer to use 'none' for the default locale anyway. My current strategy for wheezy is simply to keep the old version of gdm working as long as I can, but I wish I had a better solution. Thanks, Jaap -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k9tget$p0f$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
> Have a look at the contents of ia32-libs-*. The ‘new’ libraries APT > wants to install already exist on your system, just in one ugly > enormous package that has to be downloaded in full each time one of > the libraries it contains changes. You also don’t get to choose which > of the libraries in ia32-libs-* you actually need. Chances are that > multi-arch will actually relieve you of a lot of unnecessary stuff. Ok, but if they are "reinstalled", then the old libs should be deinstalled. But they will not. So I have some libs double on my system. > > > Yes there is, ia32-libs-* are superseded by multi-arch and no longer > maintained/updated. But the new ia32-libs are (if I am not wrong) in the amd64-repository, but cannot updated, as its dependencies are in i386-repo. That is no good idea. > Greets Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201212071954.33693.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hello Hans-J., "Hans-J. Ullrich" wrote: > But when I switch to multiarch, and add i386 (dpkg --add-architecture i386), > and want to make an upgrade, then debian wants to install a lot(!) of new > libs > from i386. Why that? WTF? New libs? They are not needed (as everything is > working well), and I do not want to fill my system with unnecessary stuff! > Never! Have a look at the contents of ia32-libs-*. The ‘new’ libraries APT wants to install already exist on your system, just in one ugly enormous package that has to be downloaded in full each time one of the libraries it contains changes. You also don’t get to choose which of the libraries in ia32-libs-* you actually need. Chances are that multi-arch will actually relieve you of a lot of unnecessary stuff. > On the other hand, if I do NOT change to multiarch, debian wants to deinstall > skype, googleearth, ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk, although they are working > perfectly. There IS no reason, to deinstall them. Yes there is, ia32-libs-* are superseded by multi-arch and no longer maintained/updated. Skype works perfectly with multi-arch here, I did not test google earth late, though. Best, Claudius -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207181555.6463b...@ares.home.chubig.net
Re: Marvell sata chipset not detecting drives.
No raid setup just sata drives connected to controller in a standard config. On 7 December 2012 17:58, Shane Johnson wrote: > Do you have any kind of RAID setup? If you do you might need dmraid. > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM, james okeeffe wrote: > >> >> Hi >> >> I have this controller with 4 sata drives connected to it. After hours of >> searching and trying different things I cannot get any drives to be >> detected. >> >> They are seen in the bios. >> >> currently I have >> >> cat /etc/modprobe.d/marvell.conf >> options ahci marvell_enable=1 >> >> tail -n 3 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf >> >> # marvell pata >> blacklist pata_marvell >> >> I have ran update-initramfs -u but this does not work. >> >> root@server:~# lspci | grep Marvell >> 02:07.0 PCI bridge: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SB2211 PCI Express to >> PCI Bridge (rev 01) >> 03:00.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6145 SATA >> II PCI-E controller (rev a1) >> >> lsmod | sort >> auth_rpcgss 53380 2 nfsd,nfs >> drm 241921 2 i915,drm_kms_helper >> drm_kms_helper 46978 1 i915 >> fscache 61529 1 nfs >> hid 99592 2 hid_microsoft,usbhid >> hid_microsoft 12888 0 >> i2c_algo_bit 13423 1 i915 >> i915 477438 1 >> iptable_filter 12810 1 >> ip_tables 27473 1 iptable_filter >> joydev 17693 0 >> lockd 90326 2 nfsd,nfs >> lp 17799 0 >> mac_hid 13253 0 >> Module Size Used by >> nfs 356410 0 >> nfs_acl 12883 2 nfsd,nfs >> nfsd 277809 2 >> parport 46562 1 lp >> psmouse 97443 0 >> r8169 62099 0 >> sata_mv 33447 0 >> serio_raw 13211 0 >> shpchp 37277 0 >> snd 78855 6 >> snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer >> snd_hda_codec 127706 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel >> snd_hda_codec_realtek 224173 1 >> snd_hda_intel 33773 0 >> snd_hwdep 13668 1 snd_hda_codec >> snd_page_alloc 18529 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm >> snd_pcm 97188 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec >> snd_timer 29990 1 snd_pcm >> soundcore 15091 1 snd >> sunrpc 245863 6 nfsd,nfs,lockd,auth_rpcgss,nfs_acl >> uas 18180 0 >> usbhid 47199 1 >> usb_storage 49198 0 >> video 19596 1 i915 >> x_tables 29846 3 xt_multiport,iptable_filter,ip_tables >> xt_multiport 12597 1 >> >> root@server:~# cat /etc/lsb-release >> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu >> DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 >> DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise >> DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" >> >> root@server:~# uname -a >> Linux server 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 >> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> -- >> "This guarantee is not guaranteed" >> > > > > -- > Shane D. Johnson > IT Administrator > Rasmussen Equipment > > > > -- "This guarantee is not guaranteed"
multiarch - please do not force users to change a running system!
Hi folks, I am still fighting with multiarch. On my 64-bit system I have a several 32-bit applications installed. Just to name the best known: skype and googleearth. As they are 32-bit, I also installed ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk (and this already for since a long long time). Just to make clear: All(!!) 32-bit applications are running fine! All! But when I switch to multiarch, and add i386 (dpkg --add-architecture i386), and want to make an upgrade, then debian wants to install a lot(!) of new libs from i386. Why that? WTF? New libs? They are not needed (as everything is working well), and I do not want to fill my system with unnecessary stuff! Never! On the other hand, if I do NOT change to multiarch, debian wants to deinstall skype, googleearth, ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk, although they are working perfectly. There IS no reason, to deinstall them. I know, the reason is, that ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk are missing dependencies from i386-repository and without them, skype and googleearth will deinstall, too. I see here a big dependency problem. And additionally (and please, pleas), IMO the kind of doing this way, is not nice. People are FORCED two ways, either to deinstall their WORKING applications and change a running system, or to switch to multiarch and get added with lots of unnessessary libs and stuff! Again, please apologize, I do not want to anger you, but please allow me to tell also things, I am not agreeing with. Maybe there might be a way, to part dependencies between amd64 and i386, and find a way, to let people decide, how they want to deal with 32-bit and 64-bit applications. Have a nice weekend! Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201212071910.48157.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: Marvell sata chipset not detecting drives.
Do you have any kind of RAID setup? If you do you might need dmraid. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM, james okeeffe wrote: > > Hi > > I have this controller with 4 sata drives connected to it. After hours of > searching and trying different things I cannot get any drives to be > detected. > > They are seen in the bios. > > currently I have > > cat /etc/modprobe.d/marvell.conf > options ahci marvell_enable=1 > > tail -n 3 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > > # marvell pata > blacklist pata_marvell > > I have ran update-initramfs -u but this does not work. > > root@server:~# lspci | grep Marvell > 02:07.0 PCI bridge: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SB2211 PCI Express to > PCI Bridge (rev 01) > 03:00.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6145 SATA > II PCI-E controller (rev a1) > > lsmod | sort > auth_rpcgss 53380 2 nfsd,nfs > drm 241921 2 i915,drm_kms_helper > drm_kms_helper 46978 1 i915 > fscache 61529 1 nfs > hid 99592 2 hid_microsoft,usbhid > hid_microsoft 12888 0 > i2c_algo_bit 13423 1 i915 > i915 477438 1 > iptable_filter 12810 1 > ip_tables 27473 1 iptable_filter > joydev 17693 0 > lockd 90326 2 nfsd,nfs > lp 17799 0 > mac_hid 13253 0 > Module Size Used by > nfs 356410 0 > nfs_acl 12883 2 nfsd,nfs > nfsd 277809 2 > parport 46562 1 lp > psmouse 97443 0 > r8169 62099 0 > sata_mv 33447 0 > serio_raw 13211 0 > shpchp 37277 0 > snd 78855 6 > snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer > snd_hda_codec 127706 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel > snd_hda_codec_realtek 224173 1 > snd_hda_intel 33773 0 > snd_hwdep 13668 1 snd_hda_codec > snd_page_alloc 18529 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm > snd_pcm 97188 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec > snd_timer 29990 1 snd_pcm > soundcore 15091 1 snd > sunrpc 245863 6 nfsd,nfs,lockd,auth_rpcgss,nfs_acl > uas 18180 0 > usbhid 47199 1 > usb_storage 49198 0 > video 19596 1 i915 > x_tables 29846 3 xt_multiport,iptable_filter,ip_tables > xt_multiport 12597 1 > > root@server:~# cat /etc/lsb-release > DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu > DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 > DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise > DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" > > root@server:~# uname -a > Linux server 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Thanks > > > > -- > "This guarantee is not guaranteed" > -- Shane D. Johnson IT Administrator Rasmussen Equipment
Marvell sata chipset not detecting drives.
Hi I have this controller with 4 sata drives connected to it. After hours of searching and trying different things I cannot get any drives to be detected. They are seen in the bios. currently I have cat /etc/modprobe.d/marvell.conf options ahci marvell_enable=1 tail -n 3 /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf # marvell pata blacklist pata_marvell I have ran update-initramfs -u but this does not work. root@server:~# lspci | grep Marvell 02:07.0 PCI bridge: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SB2211 PCI Express to PCI Bridge (rev 01) 03:00.0 RAID bus controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6145 SATA II PCI-E controller (rev a1) lsmod | sort auth_rpcgss 53380 2 nfsd,nfs drm 241921 2 i915,drm_kms_helper drm_kms_helper 46978 1 i915 fscache 61529 1 nfs hid 99592 2 hid_microsoft,usbhid hid_microsoft 12888 0 i2c_algo_bit 13423 1 i915 i915 477438 1 iptable_filter 12810 1 ip_tables 27473 1 iptable_filter joydev 17693 0 lockd 90326 2 nfsd,nfs lp 17799 0 mac_hid 13253 0 Module Size Used by nfs 356410 0 nfs_acl 12883 2 nfsd,nfs nfsd 277809 2 parport 46562 1 lp psmouse 97443 0 r8169 62099 0 sata_mv 33447 0 serio_raw 13211 0 shpchp 37277 0 snd 78855 6 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer snd_hda_codec 127706 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec_realtek 224173 1 snd_hda_intel 33773 0 snd_hwdep 13668 1 snd_hda_codec snd_page_alloc 18529 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_pcm 97188 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec snd_timer 29990 1 snd_pcm soundcore 15091 1 snd sunrpc 245863 6 nfsd,nfs,lockd,auth_rpcgss,nfs_acl uas 18180 0 usbhid 47199 1 usb_storage 49198 0 video 19596 1 i915 x_tables 29846 3 xt_multiport,iptable_filter,ip_tables xt_multiport 12597 1 root@server:~# cat /etc/lsb-release DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" root@server:~# uname -a Linux server 3.2.0-34-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 10:48:16 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Thanks -- "This guarantee is not guaranteed"
Re: show open applications in Gnome Classic
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 09:06:39PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > I've been evaluating Gnome 3 "Classic" for the past couple hours, and I > still can't figure out how to display all the open applications. > Anybody know? > Ha! I just installed the guest additions in my Virtualbox machine and now I see a regular taskbar at the bottom of the screen. It was just cut off before! Sorry for the noise. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207170156.ga21...@aurora.owens.net
Re: show open applications in Gnome Classic
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 08:19:25AM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 09:06:39PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > > I've been evaluating Gnome 3 "Classic" for the past couple hours, and I > > still can't figure out how to display all the open applications. > > Anybody know? > > > > lsw > Thanks, but I don't know what this means. Can you clarify? -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207164750.gd20...@aurora.owens.net
Re: exchange like alternative
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Olivier BATARD wrote: > That's a great idea I'll write a tutorial about that. > > By the way, what's the best place to write a tutorial like that ? how to > forge ? > IMO, with a gmail account you also have a blog account. You can start blogging right away! -- Arun Khan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cahhm8gccrabj1-vnx0vzp5yp5m_bnocq1rmwmm7bknit_xu...@mail.gmail.com
Debian Squeeze; Does this look like a Driver Issue?
I plugged a USB dongle-style serial converter in to a Debian Squeeze system and did generate a ttyUSBx port. The device it is connected to is not responding at all though it does work fine on Windows systems and I suspect it is a driver issue due to the behavior both under c-kermit and communications software meant to use a serial port and talk to the device on the other end which happens to be a two-way radio. It looks like that maybe the correct driver for the USB device can not be found so it is trying some sort of default mode as a last resort. Here are the syslog messages. What exactly does noserial do? I think there is a DC voltage sent from the radio when it is present as the comm software immediately complains when the device is not present and then waits to time out when it is present but that is the only thing different between the connected radio and a brick. Log follows: Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.001397] usb 4-2.3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 5 Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.112378] usb 4-2.3: New USB device found, idVendor=067b, idProduct=2303 Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.112393] usb 4-2.3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.112405] usb 4-2.3: Product: USB-Serial Controller Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.112414] usb 4-2.3: Manufacturer: Prolific Technology Inc. Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.113082] usb 4-2.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.115558] pl2303 4-2.3:1.0: pl2303 converter detected Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz kernel: [1671016.148702] usb 4-2.3: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB8 Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz NetworkManager: [1354849138.962875] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_67b_2303_noserial'). Dec 6 20:58:58 wb5agz NetworkManager: [1354849138.984126] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_67b_2303_noserial_if0'). Dec 6 20:58:59 wb5agz NetworkManager: [1354849139.039770] nm_hal_device_added(): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_67b_2303_noserial_if0_serial_usb_0'). Thanks for any suggestions or pearls of wisdome. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201212071426.qb7eq9zb014...@x.it.okstate.edu
Re: Locale issue
Thanks for your mail, hopefully this will also get fixed into squeeze. It's
quite annoying to have this warning everytime PERL gets called...
From: Osamu Aoki
To: ML mail
Cc: "debian-user@lists.debian.org"
Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: Locale issue
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 01:17:20AM -0800, ML mail wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since now already a few weeks I noticed that my locale settings on various
> Debian 6.0 servers got by some mysterious way broken... For example any
> tool/command using PERL will issue the following warning:
>
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = (unset),
> LC_ALL = (unset),
> LC_CTYPE = "UTF-8",
> LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
> are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
Debian 6.0 = squeeze
This is typical if you use perl under LANG = "en_US.UTF-8".
This was fixed for wheezy ay perl
| perl (5.12.2-2) experimental; urgency=low
| ...
| + Squelch useless locale warnings during package maintainer scripts.
| (Closes: #508764)
| + Improve LC_NUMERIC documentation. (Closes: #379329)
| + Fix sprintf not to ignore LC_NUMERIC with constants. (Closes: #601549)
| ...
|
| -- Niko Tyni Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:34:32 +0200
Re: no cgi-bin program
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:28:08AM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote: > *Hi, > I installed the apache2 from the wheezy distro, > apache2, php5 mysql everything ran correctly but cgi failed. http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html > The module is loaded I mean the cgi.load > I added cgid.load and cgid.conf to mods-enabled > > firstly no file : cgi.conf ?? in mods-available > > secondly the directory /usr/lib/cgi-binis empty ???!!! Unless, you (or an appropriate package, e.g. blosxom) put your cgi program in there, yes, it will be empty. > in the apache sites I have a correct script: > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ > > AllowOverride None > Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch > Order allow,deny > Allow from all > > > I suppose I need to install the cgi program?? or what ? Of course, e.g: In .html file: [...] http://localhost/cgi-bin/blosxom"; target="_blank">Blog root@tal:~# ls -al /usr/lib/cgi-bin/ drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 26 09:17 . drwxr-xr-x 79 root root 40960 Dec 2 16:49 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 28163 Oct 2 2008 blosxom root@tal:~# ls -al /var/www/ total 12 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 18 2011 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root root 4096 Jan 17 2012 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 177 Mar 18 2011 index.html root@tal:~# But, I'm guessing as to what you are actually asking, maybe you should read: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=542341 -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207132917.GA5703@tal
Re: show open applications in Gnome Classic
On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 09:06:39PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > I've been evaluating Gnome 3 "Classic" for the past couple hours, and I > still can't figure out how to display all the open applications. > Anybody know? > lsw ./tony -- http://www.tonybaldwin.me all tony, all the time! 3F330C6E signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: "apt-get BUG" OR "OPERATOR Error"?
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 06 dec 12, 23:39:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 06 dec 12, 13:34:53, Richard Owlett wrote: CASE1 Did a fresh install on a drive where ALL partitions had been removed with Gparted [LiveCD]. After reboot and user login su password apt-get install gdm gedit apt-get install gnome-terminal CASE2 Did another fresh install on a drive where ALL partitions had been removed with Gparted [LiveCD]. After reboot and user login su password apt-get install gdm gedit gnome-terminal Ok, the answer to your riddle is here: $ apt-cache show gdm Package: gdm ... Depends: [...] gnome-session | x-session-manager | x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator, [...] If you install both gdm and gnome-terminal in the same run apt will correctly consider this dependency satisfied (since gnome-terminal Provides: x-terminal-emulator), otherwise it will chose the first alternative, which is gnome-session (which then pulls an entire Gnome session via Depends and Recommends). Hope this helps, Andrei Thank you. So there is no Debian bug and what I had done wasn't completely unreasonable. I've seen similar situations back in the days when it was simpler to use random logic than microprocessors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c1e3f5.6070...@cloud85.net
Re: Locale issue
On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 01:17:20AM -0800, ML mail wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since now already a few weeks I noticed that my locale settings on various
> Debian 6.0 servers got by some mysterious way broken... For example any
> tool/command using PERL will issue the following warning:
>
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = (unset),
> LC_ALL = (unset),
> LC_CTYPE = "UTF-8",
> LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
> are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
Debian 6.0 = squeeze
This is typical if you use perl under LANG = "en_US.UTF-8".
This was fixed for wheezy ay perl
| perl (5.12.2-2) experimental; urgency=low
| ...
| + Squelch useless locale warnings during package maintainer scripts.
| (Closes: #508764)
| + Improve LC_NUMERIC documentation. (Closes: #379329)
| + Fix sprintf not to ignore LC_NUMERIC with constants. (Closes: #601549)
| ...
|
| -- Niko Tyni Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:34:32 +0200
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Re: partition table not sticky
Hi, On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 01:06:17PM +0530, J. B wrote: ... > I have repeatedly do the same but no luck. no luck with cfdisk. Changes are > not stored !!! This part I do not know. > only gparted is successful but it makes my 320 GB HDD to 280 GB. 40GB lost !!! This is most likely because of gparted is creating GUID partition table (GPT) instaed of good old MBR. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record > What is the problem with fdisk and cfdisk ??? I bet you used gparted first to create GPT and now trying to use these. This is just a wild guess. (Some fdisk can not handle GPT as I remember) If you wish to make HDD use MBR instead of GPT, you can reset it by something like (assuming your disk is /dev/hdx): $ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdx bs=4k $ sudo fdisk /dev/hdx This should work. You can also set partition table as msdos via parted. $ sudo parted /dev/hdx mklabel msdos See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch09.en.html#_disk_partition_configuration Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207122332.GA6027@goofy.localdomain
Re: iceweasel tab groups: 100% cpu load
On Vi, 07 dec 12, 12:29:36, Davide Anchisi wrote: > Hi, > > it is very frustrating when I use tab groups in iceweasel, because it is so > slw. > The problem seems to be xorg which loads the cpu to 100% when displaying > and managing tab groups. > I have the same problem on occasional web pages. > > My system: > - cpu: Intel Core2 Duo 64 bit; > - debian amd64, stable and testing; > - iceweasel 16.0.2 (but I had the problem also with version 10.x and > previous); > - video card nNVIDIA quadro135M and nvidia driver > (nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-2.6.32-3-amd64). Are you sure you need the -legacy driver? Quadro NVS 135M is supported by the latest driver. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Locale issue
On Vi, 07 dec 12, 01:17:20, ML mail wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since now already a few weeks I noticed that my locale settings on
> various Debian 6.0 servers got by some mysterious way broken... For
> example any tool/command using PERL will issue the following warning:
>
> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
> LANGUAGE = (unset),
> LC_ALL = (unset),
> LC_CTYPE = "UTF-8",
> LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
> are supported and installed on your system.
> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
>
>
> I suspect maybe some package upgrade generate this issue and I was
> expecting it to get fixed with a new package upgrade but now time
> passes and the problems is still there.
Unlikely. Package upgrades might trigger something like this on unstable
or even testing, but not on pure stable. Or do you have packages from
other sources/releases?
> Does anyone have an explanation on how this could happen? and how to
>fix it?
You could have a look in apt-get/aptitude/dpkg logs, check for removals.
You should also fsck all relevant partitions.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: iceweasel tab groups: 100% cpu load
On 12/07/2012 01:29 PM, Davide Anchisi wrote: > Hi, > > it is very frustrating when I use tab groups in iceweasel, because it is so > slw. > The problem seems to be xorg which loads the cpu to 100% when displaying > and managing tab groups. > I have the same problem on occasional web pages. > > My system: > - cpu: Intel Core2 Duo 64 bit; > - debian amd64, stable and testing; > - iceweasel 16.0.2 (but I had the problem also with version 10.x and > previous); install the newest version of iceweasel on testing apt-get install -t experimental iceweasel > - video card nNVIDIA quadro135M and nvidia driver > (nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-2.6.32-3-amd64). > > Thanks for any help, > >Davide > -- Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras http://jemaduxblog.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50c1d419.9090...@gmail.com
iceweasel tab groups: 100% cpu load
Hi, it is very frustrating when I use tab groups in iceweasel, because it is so slw. The problem seems to be xorg which loads the cpu to 100% when displaying and managing tab groups. I have the same problem on occasional web pages. My system: - cpu: Intel Core2 Duo 64 bit; - debian amd64, stable and testing; - iceweasel 16.0.2 (but I had the problem also with version 10.x and previous); - video card nNVIDIA quadro135M and nvidia driver (nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-2.6.32-3-amd64). Thanks for any help, Davide
Re: "apt-get BUG" OR "OPERATOR Error"?
On Jo, 06 dec 12, 23:39:33, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 06 dec 12, 13:34:53, Richard Owlett wrote: > > CASE1 > > Did a fresh install on a drive where ALL partitions had been removed > > with Gparted [LiveCD]. > > After reboot and user login > > su password apt-get install gdm gedit > > apt-get install gnome-terminal > > > > CASE2 > > Did another fresh install on a drive where ALL partitions had been > > removed with Gparted [LiveCD]. > > After reboot and user login > > su password apt-get install gdm gedit > > gnome-terminal Ok, the answer to your riddle is here: $ apt-cache show gdm Package: gdm ... Depends: [...] gnome-session | x-session-manager | x-window-manager | x-terminal-emulator, [...] If you install both gdm and gnome-terminal in the same run apt will correctly consider this dependency satisfied (since gnome-terminal Provides: x-terminal-emulator), otherwise it will chose the first alternative, which is gnome-session (which then pulls an entire Gnome session via Depends and Recommends). Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Locale issue
Hello,
Since now already a few weeks I noticed that my locale settings on various
Debian 6.0 servers got by some mysterious way broken... For example any
tool/command using PERL will issue the following warning:
perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
LANGUAGE = (unset),
LC_ALL = (unset),
LC_CTYPE = "UTF-8",
LANG = "en_US.UTF-8"
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
I suspect maybe some package upgrade generate this issue and I was expecting it
to get fixed with a new package upgrade but now time passes and the problems is
still there. Does anyone have an explanation on how this could happen? and how
to fix it?
Best,
ML
Re: exchange like alternative
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 16:34:13 +0100 Olivier BATARD wrote: > That's a great idea I'll write a tutorial about that. Hello Olivier, If you write a tutorial about your groupware-like setup, I would really appreciate a follow-up to this thread from you, providing me/us with a link to said howto. Thanks, Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121207084234.7e9f9...@fr13dn4nd.home.co0n
