Re: miniconf a barcelona
On Sun, 2013-10-06 at 18:07 +0200, Adrià wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:43:59AM +0200, Simó Albert i Beltran wrote: Hi ha un bar _a prop_ de Sgda Família on hi hem anat algun cop un grup de +10 persones i ens han deixat un espai per nosaltres (previ permís) on ens hem pogut reunir. No hi ha consumició obligatòria però prendre alguna cosa potser és una bona forma de tornar el favor. Podria preguntar-ho si hi hagués prou gent interessada i la gent veiés bé un lloc així. Crec que aquest bar pot estar bé. Adrià, si us plau, ens pots dir l'adreça exacta? No recordo el nom exacte (han obert no fa massa), però està al carrer St Antoni Mª Claret 136, fent cantonada amb Marina. De ser aquest el lloc de trobada, ja ho concretaria arribat el moment. Jo crec que pot ser un bon lloc. Com que veig que potser quedem aquest dissabte 12, amb quant temps has d'avisar per reservar-lo? Estarà obert el 12 (que és festiu)? He creat un dudle a veure si trobem una franja horària en què hi puguem assistir tots: https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/reunio_minidebconf_oct_2013/ Si us plau, contesteu el més aviat possible (podeu posar interrogants si no esteu segurs i més endavant canviar l'opció). Posem com a límit dimecres a la nit per decidir quan i on quedem? D'alta banda, he creat un pad amb un esbós d'ordre del dia. Si us plau, afegiu tot allò que creieu convenient parlar: https://pad.riseup.net/p/reunio_minidebconf_oct_2013 Salut! Mònica -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1381181531.4580.151.camel@celpetit
Re: miniconf a barcelona
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 11:32:11PM +0200, Mònica Ramírez Arceda wrote: On Sun, 2013-10-06 at 18:07 +0200, Adrià wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 01:43:59AM +0200, Simó Albert i Beltran wrote: Hi ha un bar _a prop_ de Sgda Família on hi hem anat algun cop un grup de +10 persones i ens han deixat un espai per nosaltres (previ permís) on ens hem pogut reunir. No hi ha consumició obligatòria però prendre alguna cosa potser és una bona forma de tornar el favor. Podria preguntar-ho si hi hagués prou gent interessada i la gent veiés bé un lloc així. Crec que aquest bar pot estar bé. Adrià, si us plau, ens pots dir l'adreça exacta? No recordo el nom exacte (han obert no fa massa), però està al carrer St Antoni Mª Claret 136, fent cantonada amb Marina. De ser aquest el lloc de trobada, ja ho concretaria arribat el moment. Jo crec que pot ser un bon lloc. Com que veig que potser quedem aquest dissabte 12, amb quant temps has d'avisar per reservar-lo? Estarà obert el 12 (que és festiu)? Les vegades que hi hem anat, hem demanat permís al migdia per anar-hi la mateixa tarda. En tot cas, intentaré acostar-m'hi, si puc demà, i preguntaria si és factible i si obren dissabte. Que parlant de dissabte, potser jo sigui dubte a la tarda (ja he editat el Dudle). Vagi bé. -- Adrià García-Alzórriz ad...@fsfe.org GPG Key: 09494C14 Aunque el vivir es incierto, nadie en la víspera ha muerto. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Démontage nfs problématique.
Le dimanche 06 octobre 2013 à 22:14 +0200, Bernardo a écrit : Au passage, j’ai un peu de mal avec l’idée d’un montage NFS fixe sur un portable (censé être nomade par nature). En fait, c'est un portable utilisé en fixe. (C'est petit chez moi...) Dans ce cas tu peux virer le paquet network-manager et configurer ton réseau dans /etc/network/interfaces. Du coup ton réseau sera géré au niveau du système et non au niveau utilisateur. Ça devrait régler ton problème. Julien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1381125539.28227.11.camel@mousse.maison
Re: Samba et Cups sont en chicane!
Le lundi 7 octobre 2013 01:21:15, Louis-Philippe Gauthier a écrit : Bonjour, Depuis la migration à Wheezy, je ne peux plus rien imprimer via Samba et Cups. L'imprimante, une HP LaserJet 1100, est branchée sur mon serveur en parallèle. L'impression marche localement (de mon serveur à l'imprimante), donc ce n'est pas un problème physique de câblage ou d'imprimante. :o) Lorsque je lance une impression, j'ai cette ligne dans les logs de Samba : [2013/10/06 13:48:58.577967, 1] smbd/service.c:1114(make_connection_snum) ordi-1 (192.168.0.110) connect to service HP_LaserJet_1100 initially as user garfield (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 28420) Il n'y a rien dans les logs de Cups ... Comment Cups et Samba s'échangent-ils les données ? Cette façon a-t-elle changée entre Squeeze et Wheezy ? Je cherche en vain de l'information ... Merci à l'avance pour votre aide ! Vérifie peut-être que rpcbind soit bien installé à la place de portmap. Sinon hplip-gui en général fait assez bien le boulot pour les imprimantes réseau HP. -- Jérôme - jer...@aranha.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310070903.11016.jer...@aranha.fr
Re: Samba et Cups sont en chicane!
Merci pour l'information, je vais regarder ça ce soir. Mais je suis tombé sur un bug hier soir qui affecterait les ordinateurs qui ne sont pas dans le domaine Samba ... :-/ Je recherche mon lien... Le 7 octobre 2013 03:03, Jérôme jer...@aranha.fr a écrit : Le lundi 7 octobre 2013 01:21:15, Louis-Philippe Gauthier a écrit : Bonjour, Depuis la migration à Wheezy, je ne peux plus rien imprimer via Samba et Cups. L'imprimante, une HP LaserJet 1100, est branchée sur mon serveur en parallèle. L'impression marche localement (de mon serveur à l'imprimante), donc ce n'est pas un problème physique de câblage ou d'imprimante. :o) Lorsque je lance une impression, j'ai cette ligne dans les logs de Samba : [2013/10/06 13:48:58.577967, 1] smbd/service.c:1114(make_connection_snum) ordi-1 (192.168.0.110) connect to service HP_LaserJet_1100 initially as user garfield (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 28420) Il n'y a rien dans les logs de Cups ... Comment Cups et Samba s'échangent-ils les données ? Cette façon a-t-elle changée entre Squeeze et Wheezy ? Je cherche en vain de l'information ... Merci à l'avance pour votre aide ! Vérifie peut-être que rpcbind soit bien installé à la place de portmap. Sinon hplip-gui en général fait assez bien le boulot pour les imprimantes réseau HP. -- Jérôme - jer...@aranha.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310070903.11016.jer...@aranha.fr -- Louis-Philippe Gauthier
RE: Écran de démarrage
Bonjour, Tu devrais essayer : « dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ». Cdlt, Fred. De : Danilo Uccelli [mailto:dan...@gmail.com] Envoyé : dimanche 6 octobre 2013 19:12 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Écran de démarrage Bonjour à tous. Quelqu'un sait comment on définit le clavier utilisé au démarrage. Je suis sous KDE (Aptosid) et j'ai systématiquement le clavier français-France au démarrage, alors que je désirerais avoir le clavier français-Suisse. Quand je dis démarrage, il s'agit de l'écran de connection. J'ai essayé dpkg-reconfigure console-data sans succès. Je précise que une fois la session démarrée toutes les configurations fonctionnent, (numlock allumé et bon clavier). D'avance merci. Danilo Uccelli
Menu Grub2
Bonjour,
Je suis en Sid AMD 64, je viens seulement de basculer vers la dernière
version de Grub la 2.00-19 et je suis surpris par le menu proposé par cette
dernière.
Dans la version précédente on avait le choix pour les Linux entre tous les
noyaux disponibles plus un mode dépannage pour chacun de ces derniers ainsi
que possibilité de lancer microsoft Vista :
Voila comment se présentait les choix du menu dans mon cas :
--
Linux Debian 3.10-3
Linux Debian 3.10-3 (Dépannage)
Linux Debian 3.2-4
Linux Debian 3.2-4 (Dépannage)
Microsoft Vista
--
Maintenant le menu est le suivant et les choix sont réduits à :
-
Linux Debian
Microsoft Vista
un update-grub détecte bien tous les systèmes installés :
Linux Debian 3.10-3, Linux 3.2-4, Microsoft Vista.
Quand j'examine un /boot/Grub/grub.cfg il semble qu'il y a une option pour
afficher comme précédemment, malheureusement je n'arrive pas à la trouver avec
google et les man .
Avez vous rencontré ce pb et si oui comment vous l'avez résolu ?
Merci d'avance, je joins le /boot/Grub/grub.cfg.
Philippe Merlin
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
load_env
fi
set default=0
if [ x${feature_menuentry_id} = xy ]; then
menuentry_id_option=--id
else
menuentry_id_option=
fi
export menuentry_id_option
if [ ${prev_saved_entry} ]; then
set saved_entry=${prev_saved_entry}
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi
function savedefault {
if [ -z ${boot_once} ]; then
saved_entry=${chosen}
save_env saved_entry
fi
}
function load_video {
if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
fi
}
if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos6'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6 --hint='hd0,msdos6'
cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14
fi
font=/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2
fi
if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=fr_FR
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
set timeout=5
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos6'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6 --hint='hd0,msdos6'
cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14
fi
insmod png
if background_image /usr/share/images/desktop-base/joy-grub.png; then
set color_normal=white/black
set color_highlight=black/white
else
set menu_color_normal=cyan/blue
set menu_color_highlight=white/blue
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu
--class os $menuentry_id_option
'gnulinux-simple-cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14' {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos6'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos6
--hint-efi=hd0,msdos6 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos6 --hint='hd0,msdos6'
cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14
fi
echo'Chargement de Linux 3.10-3-amd64…'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-3-amd64
root=UUID=cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14 ro quiet
echo'Chargement du disque mémoire initial…'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.10-3-amd64
}
submenu 'Options avancées pour Debian GNU/Linux' $menuentry_id_option
'gnulinux-advanced-cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14' {
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, avec Linux 3.10-3-amd64' --class debian
--class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option
'gnulinux-3.10-3-amd64-advanced-cfefa5bd-93c0-4451-818e-26207c170c14' {
load_video
insmod gzio
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos6'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
Re: Samba et Cups sont en chicane!
Bonjour, Rpcbind est bien installé à la place de portmap. Voici le lien que j'ai trouvé pour la migration problématique de samba 3.5 à 3.6 (les versions de Samba entre Squeeze et Wheezy). https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8769 Reste à savoir s'il est corrigé du côté de Debian et si je suis dans ce cas là précisément ! :-/ merci pour votre aide Le 7 octobre 2013 08:42, Louis-Philippe Gauthier lpgauth...@gmail.com a écrit : Merci pour l'information, je vais regarder ça ce soir. Mais je suis tombé sur un bug hier soir qui affecterait les ordinateurs qui ne sont pas dans le domaine Samba ... :-/ Je recherche mon lien... Le 7 octobre 2013 03:03, Jérôme jer...@aranha.fr a écrit : Le lundi 7 octobre 2013 01:21:15, Louis-Philippe Gauthier a écrit : Bonjour, Depuis la migration à Wheezy, je ne peux plus rien imprimer via Samba et Cups. L'imprimante, une HP LaserJet 1100, est branchée sur mon serveur en parallèle. L'impression marche localement (de mon serveur à l'imprimante), donc ce n'est pas un problème physique de câblage ou d'imprimante. :o) Lorsque je lance une impression, j'ai cette ligne dans les logs de Samba : [2013/10/06 13:48:58.577967, 1] smbd/service.c:1114(make_connection_snum) ordi-1 (192.168.0.110) connect to service HP_LaserJet_1100 initially as user garfield (uid=1000, gid=1000) (pid 28420) Il n'y a rien dans les logs de Cups ... Comment Cups et Samba s'échangent-ils les données ? Cette façon a-t-elle changée entre Squeeze et Wheezy ? Je cherche en vain de l'information ... Merci à l'avance pour votre aide ! Vérifie peut-être que rpcbind soit bien installé à la place de portmap. Sinon hplip-gui en général fait assez bien le boulot pour les imprimantes réseau HP. -- Jérôme - jer...@aranha.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201310070903.11016.jer...@aranha.fr -- Louis-Philippe Gauthier -- Louis-Philippe Gauthier
Re: Écran de démarrage
Résumé de la résolution de mon problème : Définition du clavier utilisé au démarrage. Merci à Johnny : Extrait de /etc/default/keyboard ... XKBMODEL=pc105 XKBLAYOUT=fr XKBVARIANT= ... Remplacé fr par fr_CH et le tour est joué, l'écran de login (KDM) utilise le bon clavier. Merci à Fred : dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, résout mon 2ème problème, le clavier qui était faux en mode console texte. Salutations à tous Danilo Uccelli
Re: Menu Grub2
On 10/07/2013 03:23 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Je suis en Sid AMD 64, je viens seulement de basculer vers la dernière version de Grub la 2.00-19 et je suis surpris par le menu proposé par cette dernière. Dans la version précédente on avait le choix pour les Linux entre tous les noyaux disponibles plus un mode dépannage pour chacun de ces derniers ainsi que possibilité de lancer microsoft Vista : Voila comment se présentait les choix du menu dans mon cas : -- Linux Debian 3.10-3 Linux Debian 3.10-3 (Dépannage) Linux Debian 3.2-4 Linux Debian 3.2-4 (Dépannage) Microsoft Vista -- Maintenant le menu est le suivant et les choix sont réduits à : - Linux Debian Microsoft Vista un update-grub détecte bien tous les systèmes installés : Linux Debian 3.10-3, Linux 3.2-4, Microsoft Vista. Quand j'examine un /boot/Grub/grub.cfg il semble qu'il y a une option pour afficher comme précédemment, malheureusement je n'arrive pas à la trouver avec google et les man . Bonjour Pour grub2, il faut éditer /etc/default/grub et *jamais* le fichier situé dans /boot qui est mis à jour automatiquement par grub2. Il semble qu'il te manque des noyaux, entrées correctes, dans /boot puisque grub ne les trouve pas. A vérifier, sinon, tu peux réinstaller tes noyaux puis faire un grub-install et update-grub. -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252d645.6090...@gmail.com
Meetup Debian France: planning et inscription
Bonjour, Les choses se précisent pour le meetup du 16 octobre. = Sponsor = Tout d'abord, bonne nouvelle, Logilab ( http://www.logilab.fr/ ) va sponsoriser les pizzas et boissons de cet évènement. = Inscriptions = Pour les inscriptions, nous avons ouvert deux systèmes d'inscription. La première, classique, est le Wiki Debian: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEvents/fr/2013/Meetup1 La seconde passe par l'utilisation de meetup.com: http://www.meetup.com/Debian-France/events/144106852/ J'ai bien entendu les critiques sur l'aspect non libre de la plateforme. Cependant, j'aimerais faire l'expérience de voir si ça ramène de nouvelles têtes que nos canaux habituels. Si personne ne s'inscrit avec cette plateforme (ou seulement des habitués), on restera au Wiki. = Planning et organisation = Merci d'arriver avant 19:00, il y aura quelqu'un à l'accueil. Après, il faudra que quelqu'un descende pour ouvrir. Trois salles sont à disposition. Nous avons prévu environ une heure de présentations et discussions dans la salle algorithme 20h00: Hello world! 20h05: Vincent Bernat - Packages de Debug Lightning talks (environ 10 minutes) - 20 h 30 = 21 h 15 Nicolas Dandrimont - fedmsg dans Debian Stefano Zacchiroli - sources.debian.net Sylvestre Ledru - Projet Debile Suite à ces trois LT: Discussions, trolls et questions En parallèle, la salle protocole sera ouverte pour faire un hacklab. Enfin, la salle de pause IRILL accueillera les logilab-pizzas. Sylvestre -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252d673.9040...@debian.org
Re: Menu Grub2
Le lundi 7 octobre 2013 17:41:57 maderios a écrit : On 10/07/2013 03:23 PM, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Bonjour, Je suis en Sid AMD 64, je viens seulement de basculer vers la dernière version de Grub la 2.00-19 et je suis surpris par le menu proposé par cette dernière. Dans la version précédente on avait le choix pour les Linux entre tous les noyaux disponibles plus un mode dépannage pour chacun de ces derniers ainsi que possibilité de lancer microsoft Vista : Voila comment se présentait les choix du menu dans mon cas : -- Linux Debian 3.10-3 Linux Debian 3.10-3 (Dépannage) Linux Debian 3.2-4 Linux Debian 3.2-4 (Dépannage) Microsoft Vista -- Maintenant le menu est le suivant et les choix sont réduits à : - Linux Debian Microsoft Vista un update-grub détecte bien tous les systèmes installés : Linux Debian 3.10-3, Linux 3.2-4, Microsoft Vista. Quand j'examine un /boot/Grub/grub.cfg il semble qu'il y a une option pour afficher comme précédemment, malheureusement je n'arrive pas à la trouver avec google et les man . Bonjour Pour grub2, il faut éditer /etc/default/grub et *jamais* le fichier situé dans /boot qui est mis à jour automatiquement par grub2. Il semble qu'il te manque des noyaux, entrées correctes, dans /boot puisque grub ne les trouve pas. A vérifier, sinon, tu peux réinstaller tes noyaux puis faire un grub-install et update-grub. Ok, mais j'indiquais dans mon message précédent que tous les linux étaient vues par grub quand on faisait un update-grub, d'ailleurs si on examine le grub.cfg que j'ai joint au message précédent au paragraphe 10_linux on voit un submenu 'Options avancées pour Debian GNU/Linux' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced qui référencie tous les menus qui apparaissaient antérieurement. J'étais déja sous Grub2 et ce comportement vient d'un upgrade de 1.99-27.1 à 2.00-19. Amitiés. Philippe Merlin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8130261.ux77PODz6N@portable
Monit vs dropbox service does not exist
Bonsoir, pour mes backups, j'utilise Dropbox, qui a développé un système à lui, et par ailleurs buggé. J'ai résolu le bug (il suffit d'utiliser le fichier de configuration de l'ancienne version…), mais je rencontre un problème avec une règle que j'ai ajoutée dans Monit, parce qu'au début, j'avais le démon de Dropbox qui plantait tout le temps. Mais Monit ne reconnaît pas ce service, parce que d'après ce que j'ai pu comprendre, son pid ne se trouve pas dans /var/run, mais dans la home de l'utilisateur… Du coup, c'est Monit qui plante… à cause de Dropbox ! Comment puis-je résoudre ce problème ? J'ai pensé faire un lien symbolique du dropbox.pid vers /var/run… Qu'en pensez-vous ? Ph. Gras
[OT] Desconexión de Router y Debian 7
El otro día instalé Debian Wheezy en el portátil. La instalación fue un poco accidentada desde una memoria USB. No conseguía conectarse a la wifi cuando momentos antes en las pruebas con la distribución en Live había funcionado correctamente. Usé un cable y todo correcto. Salvo que empezó a caerse la conexión al resto de los aparatos (otro portátil con Ubuntu, y un móvil). Al usarlo las desconexiones se repiten, pidiéndome que vuelva a introducir la contraseña de la red a pesar de que la conoce. He mirado la configuración del router y no veo nada extraño. He buscado en internet posibles causas y lo único que encuentro es achacable a interferencias electromagnéticas, pero esto lo descarto porque si reinicio las conexiones estas vuelven a ir correctamente. ¿Alguna sugerencia sobre los sitios en los que mirar, o cosas para ir descartando? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52529d29.1040...@gmail.com
Regex mal interpretadas en DansGuardian
Hola a Todos: Una consulta por si alguien por aquí ha utilizado o utiliza DansGuardian para filtrar contenido con Squid. DansGuardian tiene una funcionalidad que permite filtrar por expresiones regulares url's de sitios. El problema es que algunas expresiones regulares al parecer no se interpretan bien, por ejemplo la siguiente url de una descarga de una actualización de antivirus es denegada porque la regex encuentra la expresión sex en un string en base64: 2013.10.3 6:18:39 - 192.168.X.X http://su.ff.avast.com/R/AzgKEOxEYX4vx1NAu2u4bX9V1DkSBAECEBMYeCIB_ioECAMQACoHCAQQqsexGjIKCAQQqsexGhiACg== *DENIED* Banned Regular Expression URL: (big|cyber|hard|huge|mega|small|soft|super|tiny|bare|naked|nude|anal|oral|topp?les|sex|phone)+.*(anal|babe|bharath|boob|breast|busen|busty|clit|cum|cunt|dick|fetish|fuck|girl|hooter|lez|lust|naked|nude|oral|orgy|penis|porn|porno|pupper|pussy|rotten|sex|shit|smutpump|teen|tit|topp?les|xxx)s? GET 0 0 Banned Regular Expression URLs 1 403 - - El problema es que si no me equivoco en la expresión regular hay *dos* grupos que deben coincidir con la expresión para que esta se cumpla. Pero al parecer DansGuardian bloquea con solo *una* coincidencia de alguno de los dos grupos. ¿Alguna pista al respecto? Gracias de antemano Federico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252b3d6.1060...@uncu.edu.ar
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
El Sun, 06 Oct 2013 20:57:46 +0200, Ramses escribió: El 06/10/2013, a las 15:44, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) ¿Qué experiencias me pueden contar sobre este tema?. Ya hemos hablado en alguna ocasión sobre ese tema, puedes consultar en el archivo de la lista: soft de control de incidencias http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2013/05/msg01066.html No estoy buscando nombres de software, sino experiencias que hayan tenido los listeros con ellos, pros, contras, por qué han optado por el que estén utilizando, etc... Si te hubieras tomado la molestia de leer los mensajes del archivo de la lista te habrías dado cuenta de que precisamente en las respuestas se habla desde la experiencia. Ains, cuánto complejo. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.13.40...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Desconexión de Router y Debian 7
El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:38:17 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió: El otro día instalé Debian Wheezy en el portátil. La instalación fue un poco accidentada desde una memoria USB. No conseguía conectarse a la wifi cuando momentos antes en las pruebas con la distribución en Live había funcionado correctamente. Usé un cable y todo correcto. Salvo que empezó a caerse la conexión al resto de los aparatos (otro portátil con Ubuntu, y un móvil). No me queda claro... ¿la conexión que dices que se caía en el resto de equipo era la wifi? Al usarlo las desconexiones se repiten, pidiéndome que vuelva a introducir la contraseña de la red a pesar de que la conoce. He mirado la configuración del router y no veo nada extraño. He buscado en internet posibles causas y lo único que encuentro es achacable a interferencias electromagnéticas, pero esto lo descarto porque si reinicio las conexiones estas vuelven a ir correctamente. ¿Alguna sugerencia sobre los sitios en los que mirar, o cosas para ir descartando? Sí, empieza por el driver que usas y si te es posible prueba con una versión actualizada del mismo u otro completamente distinto (caso de que haya dos versiones, una libre y la otra propietaria). Otras cosas a mirar sería la selección del canal wifi (busca uno donde no haya mucha saturación vecinal) y también bajar el nivel de cifrado del PA (si usas WPA2 probar con WPA-TKIP, por ejemplo). También suele ser útil consultar siempre los registros de las desconexiones que tienes en /var/log/syslog, pueden dar muchas pistas sobre el origen del problema. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.13.46...@gmail.com
[OT] Ayuda GLPI
Buenas Compañeros, Espero se encuentren muy bien paso a saludarlos y a pedirles colaboración con este inconveniente. Mi caso es el siguiente: - Instale la ultima version de GLPI 0.84.2 - Cree y configure un correo para que al momento de que envien un correo hay, se genere automanticamente un ticket hasta aqui bien, el problema surgue en que cuando GLPI trae los correos de las solicitudes de soporte lo envia a la lista de correos no importados la razon del rechazo dice que (la dirección de correo no existe. Imposible importar) :(. - No lo tengo ligado a ningun directorio activo ni nada. - La unica solución hasta el momento es importarlos manualmente a incidencias o crear usuario por usuario. espero me puedan ayudar con esto gracias. saludos
Re: Reports usuarios squid
El Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:16:43 -0300, Ricardo escribió: El 5 de octubre de 2013 10:17, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) También podría sugerir¹ que añadieran esta opción en Sarg, personalmente la encuentro útil y no creo que sea excesivamente compleja de implementar ya que el grueso del trabajo está hecho. ¹http://sourceforge.net/p/sarg/feature-requests/?source=navbar Alguien tuvo alguna experiencia con alguno de estos: http://www.squid-cache.org/Misc/log-analysis.html Josué te recomendó en este mismo hilo lightsquid :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.13.53...@gmail.com
Re: Regex mal interpretadas en DansGuardian
El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:15:02 -0300, Federico Alberto Sayd escribió: Una consulta por si alguien por aquí ha utilizado o utiliza DansGuardian para filtrar contenido con Squid. No lo he usado nunca pero veamos... DansGuardian tiene una funcionalidad que permite filtrar por expresiones regulares url's de sitios. El problema es que algunas expresiones regulares al parecer no se interpretan bien, por ejemplo la siguiente url de una descarga de una actualización de antivirus es denegada porque la regex encuentra la expresión sex en un string en base64: (...) http://su.ff.avast.com/R/AzgKEOxEYX4vx1NAu2u4bX9V1DkSBAECEBMYeCIB_ioECAMQACoHCAQQqsexGjIKCAQQqsexGhiACg== ^^^ ^^^ *DENIED* Banned Regular Expression URL: (big|cyber|hard|huge|mega|small|soft|super|tiny|bare|naked|nude|anal| oral|topp?les|sex|phone)+.*(anal|babe|bharath|boob|breast|busen|busty| clit|cum|cunt|dick|fetish|fuck|girl|hooter|lez|lust|naked|nude|oral|orgy| penis|porn|porno|pupper|pussy|rotten|sex|shit|smutpump|teen|tit|topp?les| xxx)s? GET 0 0 Banned Regular Expression URLs 1 403 - - El problema es que si no me equivoco en la expresión regular hay *dos* grupos que deben coincidir con la expresión para que esta se cumpla. Pero al parecer DansGuardian bloquea con solo *una* coincidencia de alguno de los dos grupos. ¿Alguna pista al respecto? Sin entrar en la construcción de la expresión regular, así a bote pronto yo veo dos sex en la misma cadena, quizá sea por eso :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.13.59...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
Buenas tardes, El 07/10/2013, a las 15:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 06 Oct 2013 20:57:46 +0200, Ramses escribió: El 06/10/2013, a las 15:44, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) ¿Qué experiencias me pueden contar sobre este tema?. Ya hemos hablado en alguna ocasión sobre ese tema, puedes consultar en el archivo de la lista: soft de control de incidencias http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2013/05/msg01066.html No estoy buscando nombres de software, sino experiencias que hayan tenido los listeros con ellos, pros, contras, por qué han optado por el que estén utilizando, etc... Si te hubieras tomado la molestia de leer los mensajes del archivo de la lista te habrías dado cuenta de que precisamente en las respuestas se habla desde la experiencia. Ains, cuánto complejo. Camaleón, lo he leído, no entiendo por qué te tomas la licencia de sugerir que no me he tomado la molestia de leer los mensajes. ¿No puedes pensar que estoy pidiendo, o me gustaría que me dieran, más nivel de detalle?. Por favor, no convirtamos este hilo en un Ping Pong de correos insulsos que terminan aburriendo a los listeros como otros tantos que hay ya en la lista... Saludos y gracias, Ramses -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0ce09a60-e89f-467a-8e90-aebdbe3b5...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Ayuda GLPI
El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 08:45:15 -0500, Kmilo Zuluaga escribió: (has secuestrado un hilo, mando un correo nuevo... ah, y no te olvides de desactivar el formato html de los mensajes) (...) Mi caso es el siguiente: - Instale la ultima version de GLPI 0.84.2 - Cree y configure un correo para que al momento de que envien un correo hay, se genere automanticamente un ticket hasta aqui bien, el problema surgue en que cuando GLPI trae los correos de las solicitudes de soporte lo envia a la lista de correos no importados la razon del rechazo dice que (la dirección de correo no existe. Imposible importar) :(. - No lo tengo ligado a ningun directorio activo ni nada. - La unica solución hasta el momento es importarlos manualmente a incidencias o crear usuario por usuario. Por aquí hablan de un asunto similar, echa un vistazo por si te da alguna idea: Email Receiver - Unknown Users http://www.glpi-project.org/forum/viewtopic.php?id=23789. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.14.13...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:11:22 +0200, Ramses escribió: El 07/10/2013, a las 15:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Ya hemos hablado en alguna ocasión sobre ese tema, puedes consultar en el archivo de la lista: soft de control de incidencias http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2013/05/msg01066.html No estoy buscando nombres de software, sino experiencias que hayan tenido los listeros con ellos, pros, contras, por qué han optado por el que estén utilizando, etc... Si te hubieras tomado la molestia de leer los mensajes del archivo de la lista te habrías dado cuenta de que precisamente en las respuestas se habla desde la experiencia. Ains, cuánto complejo. Camaleón, lo he leído, no entiendo por qué te tomas la licencia de sugerir que no me he tomado la molestia de leer los mensajes. Porque tu respuesta no concuerda con la información que te he facilitado. ¿No puedes pensar que estoy pidiendo, o me gustaría que me dieran, más nivel de detalle?. Pues no, no tengo por qué adivinar la mente de quien pregunta. Si necesitas algo *más concreto* lo lógico es que seas lo más explícito posible en cuanto a *qué tipo de experiencias* estás buscando más allá del mero uso de utilizar un programa concreto. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.14.22...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
Buenas tardes, Enviado desde mi Móvil El 07/10/2013, a las 16:35, Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com escribió: Te contesto al privado. El 07/10/13 16:11, Ramses escribió: Camaleón, lo he leído, no entiendo por qué te tomas la licencia de sugerir que no me he tomado la molestia de leer los mensajes. ¿No puedes pensar que estoy pidiendo, o me gustaría que me dieran, más nivel de detalle?. Por favor, no convirtamos este hilo en un Ping Pong de correos insulsos que terminan aburriendo a los listeros como otros tantos que hay ya en la lista... No des más cuerda, algunas personas son un poco duras de mollera. Esta mujer es algo dura, son de las mujeres mías, que tienen un comportamiento algo grande y poco pernicioso para muchos. Déjala, que no tiene otra forma como para comportarse de otra forma. No merece tener a alguien que no sabe comportarse con la gente sin tener un mínimo de ternura y sensualidad, que ella no tiene nada de sensual. Lo dicho, por favor, centrémonos en el tema principal del hilo y no le hagamos perder el tiempo a nadie más... El por qué han optado por el software de ticketing que usan y no han optado por otro, como ya puse, me gustaría que describieran pros, contras, etc... que les llevaran a usar el que usan a diario... Saludos y gracias, Ramses -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/42660a6f-5db6-4d0e-ab44-f6e9b85ae...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:52:23 +0200, Ramses escribió: (...) El por qué han optado por el software de ticketing que usan y no han optado por otro, como ya puse, me gustaría que describieran pros, contras, etc... que les llevaran a usar el que usan a diario... Ramses, te podrán aconsejar mejor si describes las necesidades que tienes, por ejemplo: número de usuarios a gestionar, sistema de bdd (backend), lenguaje de programación, características del sistema de gestión de seguimiento que necesites... o si por el contrario no tienes ninguna necesidad determinada porque sólo estás tanteando la situación. Cuantos más detalles des mejores respuestas obtendrás, pero eso ya deberías saberlo. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.15.05...@gmail.com
Re: Instalación de Debian, mediante boot por red.
On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 11:09:03PM -0400, Francisco javier wrote: El día 6 de octubre de 2013 17:11, Pablo Jiménez pejim...@vtr.net escribió: [...] Exacto. Además, no tengo problema alguno en compartir con la lista los resultados que se logren, si es que el OP decide contactarme para ayudarlo. Saludos. hola, finalmente me decidí a hacer la instalación por cd's, pero aun me queda un laboratorio. si no es mucha molestia, me podrías indicar como hacer. o que buscar. saludos! Hola Francisco: Los pasos a seguir son los siguientes: + Comprobar que todos los equipos del laboratorio en que deseas hacer la instalación por red tienen habilitada la opción de boot por PXE. + La red del laboratorio tiene disponible un servidor DHCP. + La red del laboratorio tiene disponible un servidor de caching DNS. + La red del laboratorio tiene disponible un servidor TFTP. + La red del laboratorio tiene disponible un servidor HTTP o FTP. + En el servidor HTTP o FTP, tienes una copia de la ISO de Debian que deseas instalar. Si el laboratorio es pequeño y tus requerimientos de configuración no son muchos, puedes instalar en el mismo hardware el servidor DHCP, el caching DNS y el TFTP con dnsmasq. Para el servidor HTTP, lighttpd es más que suficiente. Junto a lo anterior, en la máquina en que alojarás el servidor TFTP debes instalar el paquete syslinux y syslinux-common. Una vez que instales los paquetes indicados, avísame y continuamos con la configuración. Saludos. -- Pablo Jiménez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131007150948.ga4...@emblema.fh.vtr.net
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
Buenas tardes, El 07/10/2013, a las 17:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:52:23 +0200, Ramses escribió: (...) El por qué han optado por el software de ticketing que usan y no han optado por otro, como ya puse, me gustaría que describieran pros, contras, etc... que les llevaran a usar el que usan a diario... Ramses, te podrán aconsejar mejor si describes las necesidades que tienes, por ejemplo: número de usuarios a gestionar, sistema de bdd (backend), lenguaje de programación, características del sistema de gestión de seguimiento que necesites... o si por el contrario no tienes ninguna necesidad determinada porque sólo estás tanteando la situación. Cuantos más detalles des mejores respuestas obtendrás, pero eso ya deberías saberlo. El correo vacío de antes, se ha escapado... En principio no tengo ninguna predilección por BBDD ni lenguaje de programación, porque no tengo que integrarlo con nada existente... A lo mejor, no sé, que tenga posibilidades de integración con una centralita u otras herramientas que a los listeros les haya resultado interesante y útil para decantarse por el que pusieron en producción... Saludos, Ramses -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/afa1b5ac-d709-445b-b069-1353d66f2...@gmail.com
Re: Regex mal interpretadas en DansGuardian
On 07/10/13 10:59, Camaleón wrote: El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 10:15:02 -0300, Federico Alberto Sayd escribió: Una consulta por si alguien por aquí ha utilizado o utiliza DansGuardian para filtrar contenido con Squid. No lo he usado nunca pero veamos... DansGuardian tiene una funcionalidad que permite filtrar por expresiones regulares url's de sitios. El problema es que algunas expresiones regulares al parecer no se interpretan bien, por ejemplo la siguiente url de una descarga de una actualización de antivirus es denegada porque la regex encuentra la expresión sex en un string en base64: (...) http://su.ff.avast.com/R/AzgKEOxEYX4vx1NAu2u4bX9V1DkSBAECEBMYeCIB_ioECAMQACoHCAQQqsexGjIKCAQQqsexGhiACg== ^^^ ^^^ *DENIED* Banned Regular Expression URL: (big|cyber|hard|huge|mega|small|soft|super|tiny|bare|naked|nude|anal| oral|topp?les|sex|phone)+.*(anal|babe|bharath|boob|breast|busen|busty| clit|cum|cunt|dick|fetish|fuck|girl|hooter|lez|lust|naked|nude|oral|orgy| penis|porn|porno|pupper|pussy|rotten|sex|shit|smutpump|teen|tit|topp?les| xxx)s? GET 0 0 Banned Regular Expression URLs 1 403 - - El problema es que si no me equivoco en la expresión regular hay *dos* grupos que deben coincidir con la expresión para que esta se cumpla. Pero al parecer DansGuardian bloquea con solo *una* coincidencia de alguno de los dos grupos. ¿Alguna pista al respecto? Sin entrar en la construcción de la expresión regular, así a bote pronto yo veo dos sex en la misma cadena, quizá sea por eso :-? Saludos, Gracias Camaleón He estado viendo las url's y al parecer el error es mío, generalmente coinciden cuando se repite la misma expresión dos veces. En este caso era un poco complicado de ver entre la cadena en base64 pero hay muchas urls por ejemplo con la palabra Software donde sí aparece dos veces la expresión, entonces coincide y se deniega. Había que abrir más los ojos... Gracias y saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252d103.1030...@uncu.edu.ar
Re: Fondo de color conky-color en debian testing kde
El día 7 de octubre de 2013 01:36, Andres M Giribaldi andres2...@gmail.com escribió: El 10/06/2013 07:51 PM, Maykel Franco escribió: El 07/10/2013 00:35, Andres M. Giribaldi andres2...@gmail.com mailto:andres2...@gmail.com escribió: El 06/10/2013 19:05, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 6 de octubre de 2013 20:21, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com mailto:maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: El 06/10/2013 20:35, Andres M Giribaldi andres2...@gmail.com mailto:andres2...@gmail.com escribió: El 10/05/2013 06:56 PM, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 5 de octubre de 2013 22:42, Andres M Giribaldi andres2...@gmail.com mailto:andres2...@gmail.com escribió: El 10/05/2013 02:59 PM, Maykel Franco escribió: El 05/10/2013 19:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com mailto:noela...@gmail.com mailto:noela...@gmail.com mailto:noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 05 Oct 2013 19:17:14 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: El día 5 de octubre de 2013 18:36, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com mailto:noela...@gmail.com mailto:noela...@gmail.com mailto:noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Según este pantallazo, los temas cairo y ring son así (parece que los círculos se meten hacia la derecha de la pantalla): http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-COLORS-244793180 Ya pero en algunos screenshot aparece bien cuadrado en la pantalla...que raro, si te fijas la temperatura del disco duro mio también pega un salto de linea Mira, más pantallazos con los circulicos recortaos: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/THLbTgz-InI/Bu4/tcRlnviRZhI/ conky-colors-cairo.png http://i.imgur.com/FBCgR.png http://images.maketecheasier.com/2011/05/conkyconfig-colors-rings.jpg Pero no consigo encontrar esa opcion en las opciones de preferencias del sistema de kde. Si mal no recuerdo, debe ser la opción de mostrar sombras en el texto de los iconos del escritorio. Estaba en las preferencias del escritorio, creo... puff no lo encuentro, seguiré buscando es alucinante, solo es una opcion jejejeje Yo me refería a esto pero quizá la guía que estabas siguiendo se refería a otra cosa: How to turn off the white text shadow of desktop icons? http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67t=117197 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.05.17.44...@gmail.com Sorry por el html, tengo que cambiar el cliente de correo oara el movil, el de gmail me parecw muy comodo peeo no tiene opcion de enviar como texto plano. No se en el tuto se refiere a las sombras de los iconos, podria haber sido mas especifico xD. Voy a probarlo en otro escritorio que no sea gnome a ver porque asi como lo tengo en default no esta mal pero es un poco...feo o soso el fondo oscuro. Probe ayer por la noche meterle una imagen de background pero tambien se ve oscuro y feo jejej. Gracias por todo. Buenas! Podrias compartir el contenido de /home/XXX/.conkyrc? Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525079ab.5030...@gmail.com Si claro: ## # - Conky settings - # ## update_interval 1 total_run_times 0 net_avg_samples 1 cpu_avg_samples 1 if_up_strictness link imlib_cache_size 0 double_buffer yes no_buffers yes format_human_readable # # - Text settings - # # use_xft yes xftfont Ubuntu:size=8 override_utf8_locale yes text_buffer_size 2048 # # - Window specifications - # # own_window_class Conky own_window yes own_window_type override own_window_transparent yes own_window_hints undecorated,below,sticky,skip_taskbar,skip_pager alignment top_right gap_x 25 gap_y 40 minimum_size 182 600
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
Hola, Recomiendo le des una mirada a redmine, está más orientada a la gestión de proyectos para el tracking o siguimiento que le puedes dar con el es muy bueno. http://www.redmine.org/ ~ Happy install ! Cellphone : +51 950307809 Blog: http://zerick.me/ LUG: http://www.utpinux.org IRC : zerick About : http://about.me/zerick Linux User ID : 549567 2013/10/7 Ramses ramses.sevi...@gmail.com Buenas tardes, El 07/10/2013, a las 17:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:52:23 +0200, Ramses escribió: (...) El por qué han optado por el software de ticketing que usan y no han optado por otro, como ya puse, me gustaría que describieran pros, contras, etc... que les llevaran a usar el que usan a diario... Ramses, te podrán aconsejar mejor si describes las necesidades que tienes, por ejemplo: número de usuarios a gestionar, sistema de bdd (backend), lenguaje de programación, características del sistema de gestión de seguimiento que necesites... o si por el contrario no tienes ninguna necesidad determinada porque sólo estás tanteando la situación. Cuantos más detalles des mejores respuestas obtendrás, pero eso ya deberías saberlo. El correo vacío de antes, se ha escapado... En principio no tengo ninguna predilección por BBDD ni lenguaje de programación, porque no tengo que integrarlo con nada existente... A lo mejor, no sé, que tenga posibilidades de integración con una centralita u otras herramientas que a los listeros les haya resultado interesante y útil para decantarse por el que pusieron en producción... Saludos, Ramses -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/afa1b5ac-d709-445b-b069-1353d66f2...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
Buenas tardes, El 07/10/2013, a las 17:26, Erick Ocrospoma zipper1...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, Recomiendo le des una mirada a redmine, está más orientada a la gestión de proyectos para el tracking o siguimiento que le puedes dar con el es muy bueno. http://www.redmine.org/ Erick, ¿lo estas usando para un sistema de gestión de incidencias?. ¿Cómo lo ves, no sé, para un sistema de Gestión de Incidencias que tenga que soportar entre 50/100 Empresas/Usuarios y 10 técnicos?. Teniendo en cuenta que desde cada Empresa solo reportara un único usuario, a lo sumo dos... Saludos, Ramses
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:23:15 +0200, Ramses escribió: El 07/10/2013, a las 17:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: Ramses, te podrán aconsejar mejor si describes las necesidades que tienes, por ejemplo: número de usuarios a gestionar, sistema de bdd (backend), lenguaje de programación, características del sistema de gestión de seguimiento que necesites... o si por el contrario no tienes ninguna necesidad determinada porque sólo estás tanteando la situación. Cuantos más detalles des mejores respuestas obtendrás, pero eso ya deberías saberlo. El correo vacío de antes, se ha escapado... El correo no venía vacío, simplemente he quitado el mensaje que te han enviado en privado porque en fin, hay gente que no da para más, por eso los tengo filtrados. En principio no tengo ninguna predilección por BBDD ni lenguaje de programación, porque no tengo que integrarlo con nada existente... A lo mejor, no sé, que tenga posibilidades de integración con una centralita u otras herramientas que a los listeros les haya resultado interesante y útil para decantarse por el que pusieron en producción... ¿Número de usuarios o de peticiones/gestiones estimadas? ¿Tipo de centralita (híbrida convencional -RDSI+RTB-, VoIP, mixta...)? Lo digo por ir descartando o bien soluciones extremadamente sencillas (que no requieren de bdd) o extremadamente complejas (para administrar peticiones de cientos de miles de usuarios con necesidades globales - integración de CMS/BTS/ERP con funciones de ITS-, control de versiones, etc.). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.15.57...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Ayuda GLPI
Hola El 07/10/13 09:15, Kmilo Zuluaga escribió: Buenas Compañeros, Espero se encuentren muy bien paso a saludarlos y a pedirles colaboración con este inconveniente. Mi caso es el siguiente: - Instale la ultima version de GLPI 0.84.2 - Cree y configure un correo para que al momento de que envien un correo hay, se genere automanticamente un ticket hasta aqui bien, el problema surgue en que cuando GLPI trae los correos de las solicitudes de soporte lo envia a la lista de correos no importados la razon del rechazo dice que (la dirección de correo no existe. Imposible importar) :(. - No lo tengo ligado a ningun directorio activo ni nada. - La unica solución hasta el momento es importarlos manualmente a incidencias o crear usuario por usuario. espero me puedan ayudar con esto gracias. Creo que recibirás la ayuda que necesitas si abres un hilo nuevo (no secuestrando uno que ya existe, como lo has hecho) y expones en él tu problema. Además servirá de mucho que envíes tus mensajes en texto plano (no uses html) ya que algunos listeros usan clientes de correo que no admiten mensajes en otro formato que no sea texto plano. saludos Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252e32e.9050...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
Buenas tardes, El 07/10/2013, a las 17:57, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:23:15 +0200, Ramses escribió: El 07/10/2013, a las 17:05, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: Ramses, te podrán aconsejar mejor si describes las necesidades que tienes, por ejemplo: número de usuarios a gestionar, sistema de bdd (backend), lenguaje de programación, características del sistema de gestión de seguimiento que necesites... o si por el contrario no tienes ninguna necesidad determinada porque sólo estás tanteando la situación. Cuantos más detalles des mejores respuestas obtendrás, pero eso ya deberías saberlo. El correo vacío de antes, se ha escapado... El correo no venía vacío, simplemente he quitado el mensaje que te han enviado en privado porque en fin, hay gente que no da para más, por eso los tengo filtrados. A lo que vamos, no me refería al tuyo, sino al mío, que por error le he dado a enviar antes de escribir nada. Ya sabes, lo de los móviles y los dedos porruos... :-) En principio no tengo ninguna predilección por BBDD ni lenguaje de programación, porque no tengo que integrarlo con nada existente... A lo mejor, no sé, que tenga posibilidades de integración con una centralita u otras herramientas que a los listeros les haya resultado interesante y útil para decantarse por el que pusieron en producción... ¿Número de usuarios o de peticiones/gestiones estimadas? Pues lo que he comentado en el otro correo, entre 50/100 Usuarios/Empresas, teniendo en cuenta que desde cada empresa solo reportaría un único usuario, o a lo sumo dos, las incidencias de esa empresa. Y en cuanto a recursos atendiendo las incidencias, pues unos 10 técnicos. ¿Tipo de centralita (híbrida convencional -RDSI+RTB-, VoIP, mixta...)? Mixta, incluyendo VoIP. Y que se reporten unas 100 incidencias diarias. Saludos, Ramses -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c9de679-6b3e-4aeb-8ca1-0fceec744...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Desconexión de Router y Debian 7
Lo primero de todo, muchas gracias Camaleón. Voy respondiendo entre líneas. El 07/10/13 15:46, Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:38:17 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió: El otro día instalé Debian Wheezy en el portátil. La instalación fue un poco accidentada desde una memoria USB. No conseguía conectarse a la wifi cuando momentos antes en las pruebas con la distribución en Live había funcionado correctamente. Usé un cable y todo correcto. Salvo que empezó a caerse la conexión al resto de los aparatos (otro portátil con Ubuntu, y un móvil). No me queda claro... ¿la conexión que dices que se caía en el resto de equipo era la wifi? Sí, los equipos se quedaban sin wifi. Al usarlo las desconexiones se repiten, pidiéndome que vuelva a introducir la contraseña de la red a pesar de que la conoce. He mirado la configuración del router y no veo nada extraño. He buscado en internet posibles causas y lo único que encuentro es achacable a interferencias electromagnéticas, pero esto lo descarto porque si reinicio las conexiones estas vuelven a ir correctamente. ¿Alguna sugerencia sobre los sitios en los que mirar, o cosas para ir descartando? Sí, empieza por el driver que usas y si te es posible prueba con una versión actualizada del mismo u otro completamente distinto (caso de que haya dos versiones, una libre y la otra propietaria). El módulo que dice usar es el ath9k para una placa Atheros AR9462 Otras cosas a mirar sería la selección del canal wifi (busca uno donde no haya mucha saturación vecinal) y también bajar el nivel de cifrado del PA (si usas WPA2 probar con WPA-TKIP, por ejemplo). Estas opciones las voy a aparcar por el momento explorando otras opciones más evidentes. También suele ser útil consultar siempre los registros de las desconexiones que tienes en /var/log/syslog, pueden dar muchas pistas sobre el origen del problema. Revisando el log (cuanto mal me ha hecho malacostumbrarme a Ubuntu. No, no había revisado el log) me da un error deauthenticating from by local choice (reason=3)el cual tiene un montón de incidencias. Y un montón de posibles soluciones. Fijándome en una solución propuesta para Debian [1] que consiste en cambiar los valores de group=CCMP por group=TKIP en /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa-supplicant.conf, me doy cuenta de que no tengo ese archivo. Miro la posible solución, y en una guía sobre wpa_supplicant [2] me hacen mirar al archio /etc/network/interfaces. Sorpresa mi red inalámbrica no aparece. El contenido es: #The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback #The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Cuando busco información definir la red en el archivo interfaces indican ejemplos donde van nombres de red y contraseñas, lo que no me hace ninguna gracia. Creo que seguiré por aquí a ver qué es lo que consigo [1]La solución para Debian se alude en los comentarios de: https://azitech.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/deauthenticating-reason3/ [2]http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/configuracion-manual-wpasupplicant Saludos, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252e4fd.20...@gmail.com
Re: Fondo de color conky-color en debian testing kde
Hola Maykel en particular y lista en general. El 07/10/13 10:56, Maykel Franco escribió: () Pues lo tengo igual, por más vueltas que le doy...Lo único yo tengo una versión superior de kde porque uso debian testing: root@debian-maykel:~# kded4 -v Qt: 4.8.6 Plataforma de desarrollo de KDE: 4.10.5 Servicio de KDE: 4.10.5 Nada, se sigue viendo el fondo en negro. Me tendré que conformar con el fondo en negro y ya está... Por lo pronto te sugiero que no desistas; ya sabemos que hay cosas mas importantes pero es bueno esclarecer este tipo de cosas. No me he leído todo el hilo de la conversación así que no se si ya te indicaron los enlaces que te voy a sugerir. Tuve un problema similar con gnome-shell solo que fue hace bastante tiempo y me ayudaron mucho varias cosas: Primeramente la documentación que conseguí en la web sobre conky-lua (ya se, estamos hablando de conky-color) y estos en laces, en particular los dos últimos. http://conky.sourceforge.net/documentation.html http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html No te estoy mandando a leer documentación por sarcasmo, en su momento coloque esos enlaces en marcadores y luego me han servido para ir agregando muchas cosas a mi conky. Espero que te esean igual de útiles. Saludos y graica.s Mucho éxito y como decimos por acá: ¡dale, que tu puedes! Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252e7e1.2040...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Desconexión de Router y Debian 7
El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:44:45 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió: El 07/10/13 15:46, Camaleón escribió: (...) Sí, empieza por el driver que usas y si te es posible prueba con una versión actualizada del mismo u otro completamente distinto (caso de que haya dos versiones, una libre y la otra propietaria). El módulo que dice usar es el ath9k para una placa Atheros AR9462 En principio parece un buen chipset, quiero decir que no necesita de ningún software propietario. Otras cosas a mirar sería la selección del canal wifi (busca uno donde no haya mucha saturación vecinal) y también bajar el nivel de cifrado del PA (si usas WPA2 probar con WPA-TKIP, por ejemplo). Estas opciones las voy a aparcar por el momento explorando otras opciones más evidentes. OK :-) También suele ser útil consultar siempre los registros de las desconexiones que tienes en /var/log/syslog, pueden dar muchas pistas sobre el origen del problema. Revisando el log (cuanto mal me ha hecho malacostumbrarme a Ubuntu. No, no había revisado el log) me da un error deauthenticating from by local choice (reason=3)el cual tiene un montón de incidencias. Y un montón de posibles soluciones. Fijándome en una solución propuesta para Debian [1] que consiste en cambiar los valores de group=CCMP por group=TKIP en /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa-supplicant.conf, me doy cuenta de que no tengo ese archivo. Un apunte sobre esto. Si usas Network Manager como gestor de conexiones de red no necesitas editar ese archivo directamente. Sólo si quieres configurar la conexión wifi manualmente (sin aplicaciones de terceros) tienes que crearlo. Miro la posible solución, y en una guía sobre wpa_supplicant [2] me hacen mirar al archio /etc/network/interfaces. Sorpresa mi red inalámbrica no aparece. El contenido es: #The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback #The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Este archivo tampoco necesitas editarlo manualmente salvo que uses ifup (otro sistema de gestión de red distinto de Network Manager). Cuando busco información definir la red en el archivo interfaces indican ejemplos donde van nombres de red y contraseñas, lo que no me hace ninguna gracia. Cuando configuras wpa_supplicant a mano necesitas indicarle los datos de configuración de PA para que se pueda conectarse pero ese archivo de configuración sólo es (o debería ser) accesible/legible por el usuario root, pero no creo que este sea tu caso. Creo que seguiré por aquí a ver qué es lo que consigo (...) Veo que Google encuentra varias referencias al error que indicas: https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=en#complete=0hl=enq=ath9k +deauthenticating+from+by+local+choice+%28reason%3D3%29tbs=qdr:y Ve probando cosas y ya nos vas diciendo qué resultados obtienes. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.10.07.17.15...@gmail.com
Hemos pasado a Debian 7.2.
O eso dice mi sistema tras las actualizaciones de hoy, pero me extraña no ver ninguna noticia de ello: lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.2 (wheezy) Release:7.2 Codename: wheezy Entre varios paquetes, se me ha actualizado base-files -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 1 linux machines Registered Linux machine #2003003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/l2uqf1$92s$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Hemos pasado a Debian 7.2.
2013/10/7 Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es: O eso dice mi sistema tras las actualizaciones de hoy, pero me extraña no ver ninguna noticia de ello: lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.2 (wheezy) Release:7.2 Codename: wheezy Entre varios paquetes, se me ha actualizado base-files Pues yo sigo en 7.1 en amd64 $ lsb_release -a LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.1 (wheezy) Release:7.1 Codename: wheezy S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rhhlg7cjczhc2ol_-noj7vzq4ewfhj2_nrod1bfgv8i...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Hemos pasado a Debian 7.2.
El 07/10/13 19:29, fernando sainz escribió: Pues yo sigo en 7.1 en amd64 $ lsb_release -a LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.1 (wheezy) Release:7.1 Codename: wheezy S2. Pues no entiendo nada. Mi sistema también es amd64 -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 1 linux machines Registered Linux machine #2003003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/l2ut2l$800$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Hemos pasado a Debian 7.2.
2013/10/7 Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es: El 07/10/13 19:29, fernando sainz escribió: Pues yo sigo en 7.1 en amd64 $ lsb_release -a LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.1 (wheezy) Release:7.1 Codename: wheezy S2. Pues no entiendo nada. Mi sistema también es amd64 Tengo el sistema actualizado. Mi base files está en versión 7.1wheezy1. Mira a ver que tienes en el sources.list. S2. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGw=rhjsc6qshf0zrijaigskdn5u4bxickc0xnxedk+jdzn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Hemos pasado a Debian 7.2.
2013/10/7 Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es O eso dice mi sistema tras las actualizaciones de hoy, pero me extraña no ver ninguna noticia de ello: lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.2 (wheezy) Release:7.2 Codename: wheezy Entre varios paquetes, se me ha actualizado base-files Tienes activadas el wheezy-proposed-updates? Esta misma tarde ha entrado en la lista debian-changes el paquete base-files: http://lists.debian.org/debian-changes/2013/10/msg00034.html Saludos, Javier Silva, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caog_h5bxbjrt8-bmm9x2zznjexebrisayn5y9d1kptbjmb+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Hemos pasado a Debian 7.2.
El 07/10/13 20:16, Javier Silva escribió: Tienes activadas el wheezy-proposed-updates? Esta misma tarde ha entrado en la lista debian-changes el paquete base-files: http://lists.debian.org/debian-changes/2013/10/msg00034.html Ah! Pues si. Ha sido eso. :) Gracias. Mi base-files es: 7.1wheezy2 (proposed-updates) - Info de Synaptic. -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 1 linux machines Registered Linux machine #2003003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/l2uugt$ou9$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
El 07/10/13 16:52, Ramses escribió: Hay que ver, eh...te mando vía privado y lo mandas a la lista. Una pena. -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
El 07/10/13 18:37, Ramses escribió: *PLONK* -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OT] Software para ticketing / gestión de incidencias.
Buenas, yo en mi momento monte mantis BugTracker, para unos desarrolladores y fue muy util, pues es recomendado para proyectos en desarrollo, despues no he probado otros, por tener en el trabajo herramientas como BMC Remedy y demas. http://www.mantisbt.org/ saludos. Walter Herrera Servicios informaticos software Libre. El 7 de octubre de 2013 15:46, Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com escribió: El 07/10/13 16:52, Ramses escribió: Hay que ver, eh...te mando vía privado y lo mandas a la lista. Una pena. -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás.
Re: Hemos pasado a Debian 7.2.
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 19:29:18 +0200 fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/10/7 Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es: O eso dice mi sistema tras las actualizaciones de hoy, pero me extraña no ver ninguna noticia de ello: lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.2 (wheezy) Release:7.2 Codename: wheezy Entre varios paquetes, se me ha actualizado base-files Pues yo sigo en 7.1 en amd64 $ lsb_release -a LSB Version: core-2.0-amd64:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-amd64:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-amd64:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-amd64:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-amd64:core-4.0-noarch:core-4.1-amd64:core-4.1-noarch:security-4.0-amd64:security-4.0-noarch:security-4.1-amd64:security-4.1-noarch Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.1 (wheezy) Release:7.1 Codename: wheezy S2. Debes tener proposed-updates en tu sources.list seguramente en unos días estará en el repositorio principal. Saludos. -- http://wp.geeklab.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131007163824.5306ae7c@california
Re: [OT] Desconexión de Router y Debian 7
El 07/10/13 18:44, Gerardo Diez García escribió: Lo primero de todo, muchas gracias Camaleón. Voy respondiendo entre líneas. El 07/10/13 15:46, Camaleón escribió: El Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:38:17 +0200, Gerardo Diez García escribió: El otro día instalé Debian Wheezy en el portátil. La instalación fue un poco accidentada desde una memoria USB. No conseguía conectarse a la wifi cuando momentos antes en las pruebas con la distribución en Live había funcionado correctamente. Usé un cable y todo correcto. Salvo que empezó a caerse la conexión al resto de los aparatos (otro portátil con Ubuntu, y un móvil). No me queda claro... ¿la conexión que dices que se caía en el resto de equipo era la wifi? Sí, los equipos se quedaban sin wifi. Al usarlo las desconexiones se repiten, pidiéndome que vuelva a introducir la contraseña de la red a pesar de que la conoce. He mirado la configuración del router y no veo nada extraño. He buscado en internet posibles causas y lo único que encuentro es achacable a interferencias electromagnéticas, pero esto lo descarto porque si reinicio las conexiones estas vuelven a ir correctamente. ¿Alguna sugerencia sobre los sitios en los que mirar, o cosas para ir descartando? Sí, empieza por el driver que usas y si te es posible prueba con una versión actualizada del mismo u otro completamente distinto (caso de que haya dos versiones, una libre y la otra propietaria). El módulo que dice usar es el ath9k para una placa Atheros AR9462 Otras cosas a mirar sería la selección del canal wifi (busca uno donde no haya mucha saturación vecinal) y también bajar el nivel de cifrado del PA (si usas WPA2 probar con WPA-TKIP, por ejemplo). Estas opciones las voy a aparcar por el momento explorando otras opciones más evidentes. También suele ser útil consultar siempre los registros de las desconexiones que tienes en /var/log/syslog, pueden dar muchas pistas sobre el origen del problema. Revisando el log (cuanto mal me ha hecho malacostumbrarme a Ubuntu. No, no había revisado el log) me da un error deauthenticating from by local choice (reason=3)el cual tiene un montón de incidencias. Y un montón de posibles soluciones. Fijándome en una solución propuesta para Debian [1] que consiste en cambiar los valores de group=CCMP por group=TKIP en /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa-supplicant.conf, me doy cuenta de que no tengo ese archivo. Miro la posible solución, y en una guía sobre wpa_supplicant [2] me hacen mirar al archio /etc/network/interfaces. Sorpresa mi red inalámbrica no aparece. El contenido es: #The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback #The primary network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp Vamos a ver, en algunas instalaciones de Debian en portátiles (y equipos de sobremesa) me ha ocurrido que durante la propia instalación he tenido acceso a internet pero después de reiniciar el equipo no la tenía... Lo de «caerse la conexión al resto de los aparatos» he de decirte que nunca me ha pasado. El tema de recuperar el acceso a la red lo he solucionado (en todas las ocasiones) comentando las dos últimas líneas que muestras del archivo /etc/network/interfaces con una almohadilla (#)... o sea, deja el archivo así: # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface # allow-hotplug eth0 # iface eth0 inet dhcp Después guarda, cierra y REINICIA el equipo. Si no funciona pues déjalo otra vez como estaba y busca otra solución... pero por probar no pierdes nada. Cuando busco información definir la red en el archivo interfaces indican ejemplos donde van nombres de red y contraseñas, lo que no me hace ninguna gracia. Creo que seguiré por aquí a ver qué es lo que consigo [1]La solución para Debian se alude en los comentarios de: https://azitech.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/deauthenticating-reason3/ [2]http://www.esdebian.org/wiki/configuracion-manual-wpasupplicant Saludos, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52532f9c.7010...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Desconexión de Router y Debian 7
El 08/10/13 00:03, eldebiandep...@gmail.com escribió: Vamos a ver, en algunas instalaciones de Debian en portátiles (y equipos de sobremesa) me ha ocurrido que durante la propia instalación he tenido acceso a internet pero después de reiniciar el equipo no la tenía... Lo de «caerse la conexión al resto de los aparatos» he de decirte que nunca me ha pasado. El tema de recuperar el acceso a la red lo he solucionado (en todas las ocasiones) comentando las dos últimas líneas que muestras del archivo /etc/network/interfaces con una almohadilla (#)... o sea, deja el archivo así: # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface # allow-hotplug eth0 # iface eth0 inet dhcp Después guarda, cierra y REINICIA el equipo. Si no funciona pues déjalo otra vez como estaba y busca otra solución... pero por probar no pierdes nada. Empezaré por probar esto, cuando tenga libertad de movimientos (porque con esa conexión dejo sin conexión al resto de ordenadores de casa y me empiezan a mirar mal). Las soluciones que voy viendo me tienen desconcertado. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525335df.9040...@gmail.com
¿Es recomendable tener instalados los paquetes lsb-*?
Haciendo un lsb_release -a, veo que a parte de la info de la versión de Debian instalada, lo primero que me sale es: No LSB modules are available. Buscando paquetes con Synaptic, me salen como no instalados: lsb lsb-multimedia lsb-security lsb-printing lsb-cxx lsb-languages lsb-core lsb-graphics lsb-desktop, etc... ... Todos estos paquetes hacen referencia a la versión 4.1+Debian8+Deb7u1, pero sin embargo, si tengo instalado el paquete lsb-release, de la misma versión. ¿Debería tener instalados los demás paquetes mencionados antes? ¿O no son necesarios? Salvo el mensaje al hacer lsb_release -a, no he notado nada extraño ni fallos en el sistema. Gracias. -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 1 linux machines Registered Linux machine #2003003 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/l2vedg$dme$1...@ger.gmane.org
duda storage proxmox
hola, tengo montado un pequeño cluster con proxmox 3.1 y me ha llegado un nuevo hdd (1tb), se que puedo configurarlo para que se monte automáticamente y agregarlo como storage con la opción directory, ahora, mi duda es si esta forma es la más optima para esto ?? o me recomiendan hacerlo de otra forma ?? Gracias de antemano -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52535751.8050...@infosol.gtm.sld.cu
Re: ¿Es recomendable tener instalados los paquetes lsb-*?
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Eduardo Rios eduri...@yahoo.es wrote: Haciendo un lsb_release -a, veo que a parte de la info de la versión de Debian instalada, lo primero que me sale es: No LSB modules are available. Buscando paquetes con Synaptic, me salen como no instalados: lsb lsb-multimedia lsb-security lsb-printing lsb-cxx lsb-languages lsb-core lsb-graphics lsb-desktop, etc... ... Todos estos paquetes hacen referencia a la versión 4.1+Debian8+Deb7u1, pero sin embargo, si tengo instalado el paquete lsb-release, de la misma versión. ¿Debería tener instalados los demás paquetes mencionados antes? ¿O no son necesarios? Salvo el mensaje al hacer lsb_release -a, no he notado nada extraño ni fallos en el sistema. No es necesario, pero si algún paquete lo requiere, los tendrá como dependencia, así que no hay mucho por que preocuparse. Si miras la descripción de alguno de los paquetes indica esto: The intent of this package is to provide a best current practice way of installing and running LSB packages on Debian GNU/Linux. Its presence does not imply that Debian fully complies with the Linux Standard Base, and should not be construed as a statement that Debian is LSB-compliant. Saludos -- A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAABYcjNB5YYLoZ=tJA_QCfwXYOb5-opc9HV==rbtczracdd...@mail.gmail.com
DDOS
Hola a todos, tengo un servidor de juegos online y tengo problemas con ataques de tipo Dos y DDOS, que solucion puedo encontrar con Debian ? algun firewall pero que no blokee puertos ya que utilizo muchos para la coneccion de usuarios. Espero una respuesta gente un saludo
RE: DDOS
from: l2lad...@hotmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Subject: DDOS Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 02:03:29 -0300 Hola a todos, tengo un servidor de juegos online y tengo problemas con ataques de tipo Dos y DDOS, que solucion puedo encontrar con Debian ? algun firewall pero que no blokee puertos ya que utilizo muchos para la coneccion de usuarios. Espero una respuesta gente un saludo hola esto te puede ayudar un atake DDos es comun hoy en dia , pero algo podemos encontrar solucion http://bobcares.com/blog/preventing-ddos-attacks/ Atte. William Romero C.
Re: DDOS
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Instalar MySQL Server
Boa tarde Pessoal. Se for OFF-TOPIC, podem desconsiderar e me desculpe… Toda vida instalei o MySQL server pelo comando apt-get install mysql-server. Porém, agora estou com um debian squeeze e sempre me retorna o erro: Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1) ... [ ok ] Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld. [FAIL] Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action start failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.5 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.5 Já pesquisei e nada resolveu o problema. Para várias pessoas, o problema foi resolvido removendo tudo do MySQL e reinstalando o pacote, Mas como eu sou benzido, pra mim não deu certo. Alguém têm alguma sugestão? Obrigado! Atenciosamente Leandro de Lima Camargo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f93217a6-50de-43a0-836b-3a6972c89...@gmail.com
Re: Instalar MySQL Server
Boa tarde ... o Sr. já tentou limpar o cahe de pacotes, e remover os arqwuivos de configuração ? apt-get clean apt-get autoclean apt-get --purge remove mysql-server E então tente reinstalar ... Fábio Rabelo Em 7 de outubro de 2013 15:11, Leandro de Lima Camargo zoiojordi...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde Pessoal. Se for OFF-TOPIC, podem desconsiderar e me desculpe… Toda vida instalei o MySQL server pelo comando apt-get install mysql-server. Porém, agora estou com um debian squeeze e sempre me retorna o erro: Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1) ... [ ok ] Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld. [FAIL] Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action start failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.5 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.5 Já pesquisei e nada resolveu o problema. Para várias pessoas, o problema foi resolvido removendo tudo do MySQL e reinstalando o pacote, Mas como eu sou benzido, pra mim não deu certo. Alguém têm alguma sugestão? Obrigado! Atenciosamente Leandro de Lima Camargo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f93217a6-50de-43a0-836b-3a6972c89...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caeeky64olrqunr7myewnohpenhmkvcxk223tqbzxxcsik++...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Instalar MySQL Server
Isso. Depois de aplicar a solução do colega, e se por acaso o problema continuar, procure checar os logs. tail -f /var/log/mysql* Abraços. Atenciosamente, Henrique Fagundes magnat...@yahoo.com.br Skype: magnata-br-rj Linux User: 475399 http://www.aprendendolinux.com/ http://www.facebook.com/PortalAprendendoLinux http://youtube.com/aprendendolinux/ http://twitter.com/aprendendolinux/ __ Participe do Grupo Aprendendo Linux http://listas.aprendendolinux.com Ou envie um e-mail para: aprendendolinux-subscr...@listas.aprendendolinux.com Fábio Rabelo escreveu: Boa tarde ... o Sr. já tentou limpar o cahe de pacotes, e remover os arqwuivos de configuração ? apt-get clean apt-get autoclean apt-get --purge remove mysql-server E então tente reinstalar ... Fábio Rabelo Em 7 de outubro de 2013 15:11, Leandro de Lima Camargo zoiojordi...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa tarde Pessoal. Se for OFF-TOPIC, podem desconsiderar e me desculpe… Toda vida instalei o MySQL server pelo comando apt-get install mysql-server. Porém, agora estou com um debian squeeze e sempre me retorna o erro: Setting up mysql-server-5.5 (5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1) ... [ ok ] Stopping MySQL database server: mysqld. [FAIL] Starting MySQL database server: mysqld . . . . . . . . . . . . . . failed! invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action start failed. dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.5 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 configured to not write apport reports Errors were encountered while processing: mysql-server-5.5 Já pesquisei e nada resolveu o problema. Para várias pessoas, o problema foi resolvido removendo tudo do MySQL e reinstalando o pacote, Mas como eu sou benzido, pra mim não deu certo. Alguém têm alguma sugestão? Obrigado! Atenciosamente Leandro de Lima Camargo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f93217a6-50de-43a0-836b-3a6972c89...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/525300fd.1010...@yahoo.com.br
RE: Mouse scrolling speed
Thanks a lot, I will have a look at it today and update.---Dolev Original Message Subject: Re: Mouse scrolling speed From: Kailash listskail...@gmail.com Date: Mon, October 07, 2013 6:44 am To: debian-user@lists.debian.org On Monday 07 October 2013 01:27 AM, Rob Owens wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 09:15:18AM -0700, Dolev Farhi wrote: Hi all I'm running Debian 6 with GNOME. My mouse scroll is somewhat slow, It takes about 5-6 scrolls to get to the bottom of a page. in the mouse control GUI there is no indication of scrolling speed. Googling about this brought no solutions except using XFCE. anyone got a clue how to speed up the mouse scroll? I know that xset can be used to change the mouse pointer speed. Maybe it's able to change the scroll speed as well, but the man page doesn't seem to mention it. But if you've got no other leads, you might want to look into xset in case I missed something in the man page. -Rob And for reference, here are my pointer settings Pointer Control: acceleration: 2/1threshold: 4 K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52523c11.5060...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131006230313.e158259e6bb0a9b32cea9370b02bc624.5d0e2cb915@email19.asia.secureserver.net
Re: Debian installer and raid0
I have no other machines than the said two servers. As soon as a machine was dismissed, parts were recovered for the new machines. Does not matter, I'll try. What I was also asking, however, was how to boot to the grub only: I forgot asking naively how to boot safely to the grub menu. With both servers, the system boots straightforwardly to the linux prompt, then, if I need the X server and manager, I command startx and then gnome-session thanks francesco On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Francesco Pietra wrote: Thanks so much. I am also using raid1 since I met Debian, so many years ago. However the poor way I described. I'll do what you suggest as soon time permits, although the cables to the HDs in the old server are difficultly accessible. And, in the meantime, I would be at a single server, insecure as with a bad raid1. I wasn't suggesting that you hack around on your production server. I was suggesting that you create a victim machine for testing on a workbench that is seperate from your production server. And this victim machine does not need to be a rack mount server at all. An old deskside machine is perfect. Something that has two disk drives in it for testing the RAID1 installation. Do the test on this testing victim machine separate from your production machine. When you have verified how everything works then do those actions on your production machine. That way your production machine is safe from experiments. And it is much easier to test and learn and experiment upon a machine that is targeted specifically for that purpose. Failure that I described in adding grub to the other HD was in a single trial and now the HDs are different, taken from a dismissed four-sockets dual-core AMD server. The type of disk drive should not matter. Bob
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
Thanks for posting on this Jape. I'm new to Debian (preparing to install soon) and will likely be caught by this. Hope it's OK to ask some newby questions. I want a light weight DE, and was thinking to use XFCE (been fine on my other distros). I'm at best an intermediate level with Linux, so will likely struggle with not installing Gnome (really don't want Gnome or KDE). On 07/10/13 02:31, Jape Person wrote: From my perspective, it looks to me as though the problem is network-manager-gnome's desire to install gnome-control-center. Xfce and LXDE both want network-manager-gnome, so they also get gnome-control-center, gnome-session, and just about everything else gnome-like. Is it possible to not install network-manager-gnome when installing Debian with XFCE? I've bypassed the network manager in Ubuntu in the past, running on a desktop machine, and just configured network access by text file anyway. Not sure if that would make things awkward on a laptop connecting to different wireless sites. Are all these Gnome packages real dependencies for network-manager-gnome, or are they just selected by some other means? Is there an alternative network manager for XFCE, and can one be selected during initial installation? Thanks for any help. Cheers, Oli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52525e6e.6080...@iinet.net.au
ATI graphic card and Jessie.
Hello, I am in testing, and I have a radeom 4000 graphic card. I used to use the radeon driver but I had to switch after kernel 3.10, because I got GUI freeze of 20 to 30 s avery 15 to 20 minutes, making it unusable. But now I see that fglrx-legacy is not compatible with the new xorg. Is there a hope to get a new version, or should I use something else than debian (changing hardware is not possible that's my work PC, and if it does not work, use the corporate windows image). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131007072940.gy1...@rail.eu.org
Re: ATI graphic card and Jessie.
2013/10/7 Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org: Hello, I am in testing, and I have a radeom 4000 graphic card. I used to use the radeon driver but I had to switch after kernel 3.10, because I got GUI freeze of 20 to 30 s avery 15 to 20 minutes, making it unusable. But now I see that fglrx-legacy is not compatible with the new xorg. Is there a hope to get a new version, or should I use something else than debian (changing hardware is not possible that's my work PC, and if it does not work, use the corporate windows image). your problem could be similar to my X300 radeon on T43 what i did: 1- install xserver-xorg-video-ati libgl1-mesa-glx firmware-linux-nonfree 2- remove xserver-xorg-video-radeon if i remember it correctly, i also had to replace gnome 3 with mate for a smoother desktop experience YMMV -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbwmB3wMqkd7pX1xzJWL6kBhgaWjecUNEeeejp_gWa0=x...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?
On 2013-10-06, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: I think that comment was basically that /etc/cron.daily/apt doesn't have anything to do with log rotation. So you are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe he thought that given the apt script is run before the logrotate script in cron.daily (if indeed they're handled in alphabetical order? (apparently, yes, they're run in 'lexical sort order' order according to the run-parts man page)), if the apt script hung for any reason, the logrotate script would never get past the bottleneck, thus explaining his problem. Or maybe I should just wait for him to reveal his reasoning, if he ever does. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl54qd5.220.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Debian wheezy boot problem - Boot sector not identified by board
All, I have an intel dh77kc board. it previously had windows 7 installed on it.i tried installing debian wheezy net install. installation goes perfectly fine up untill reboot.once reboot is done, i get Initializing and establishing link and immediately goes into network bootI tried resetting bios settings to default, i even upgraded the bios itself. and changed from AHCI to IDEnothing is working so far. Note: i thought it's not debian specific, by installing windows 7 again. and it worked fine.. Any hint on what might be going on ?
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
Is there an alternative network manager for XFCE, and can one be selected during initial installation? https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd HTH, K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52526fef.3070...@gmail.com
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
Le 07.10.2013 09:10, Oliver Fairhall a écrit : Thanks for posting on this Jape. I'm new to Debian (preparing to install soon) and will likely be caught by this. Hope it's OK to ask some newby questions. I do not remember having read that this list is for experts only ;) On 07/10/13 02:31, Jape Person wrote: From my perspective, it looks to me as though the problem is network-manager-gnome's desire to install gnome-control-center. Xfce and LXDE both want network-manager-gnome, so they also get gnome-control-center, gnome-session, and just about everything else gnome-like. Is it possible to not install network-manager-gnome when installing Debian with XFCE? Debian's installer is not so flexible to allow you to choose softwares one by one, but it can allow you to install tasks one by one, by example portable computer, ssh server, desktop, etc. If you want a minimal system and know 1) all uses you will have for your computer and 2) which softwares in Debian's repository to use for them, then I suggest you to uncheck all tasks' checkboxes. Then, when the installation will be finished, you will login on the TTY and install manually packages. For that, I honestly think that the aptitude's ncurses interface is the better, but apt-get install [long list of software] will work too, of course. ( another advice I could give you if you do not know what softwares to use for each task, is to install debtags, that you can access in aptitude's ncurses' interface in view. This will help you to choose softwares according to various parameters like technology they use ) Of course, that kind of install is not the recommended one for people who are not ready to spend time on their computer: you might forget something and wonder why it does not work as you expect, when it would work fine on a classic installation. I've bypassed the network manager in Ubuntu in the past, running on a desktop machine, and just configured network access by text file anyway. Not sure if that would make things awkward on a laptop connecting to different wireless sites. I am editing /etc/network/interface too. It works perfectly, but of course, you will have to change the values and do some ifdown/ifup everytime you will change the target network. I guess it is possible to build some scripts to change network automatically, IIRC there is some kind of events that can be programmed, so, maybe... but I never tried. I stopped myself after making scripts to generate the interface file depending on a parameter and then down/up the wlan. Using tools made for that is probably easier. Are all these Gnome packages real dependencies for network-manager-gnome, or are they just selected by some other means? What is strange here, is that IIRC, XFCE uses network-manager, and not network-manager-gnome. Anyway, installing network-manager does not install the whole gnome DE here, at least not without installing recommended packages. Keeping automatic installation of those recommended packages would effectively install a lot of crap, because network-manager-gnome recommends other packages which, themselves, recommends or depends on DEs like KDE. I am only doing a short test here, so this reply should not be taken as the exact truth. Is there an alternative network manager for XFCE, and can one be selected during initial installation? During installation? I guess no, as I said previously, you can not choose a single package in the installer, only tasks, which are not precise at all. But post-installation, yes, network-manager-gnome depends on a package named network-manager. I did not noticed any GUI software depending on it, but I did not take a deep look. My bet is that there is one, I just do not know the name because I do not need it, being perfectly happy with my configuration edition (which would not be the right solution if I had a lot of places where I go frequently with my computer, of course) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/36fa5a4a42cc04729053e31447eff...@neutralite.org
Re: Recovery mode: impossible to run dpkg ( was Re: boot problem: stuck at Switching to clocksource tsc )
Le 06.10.2013 18:34, Curt a écrit : On 2013-10-06, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Any idea about how to be able to run terminal stuff correctly in recovery mode? Maybe changing the terminal (if so, how could I do that?)? export TERM=linux says google Thanks. But, this line does obviously not change the terminal: it lure the softwares so that they can not check that the real running terminal is not the good one. Remember the context: I am trying to save an installation from recovery mode, which is in TTY. However, I've just tried it, in case it would work. The dialog box is very ugly, since the formating is completely destroyed, but since changing kernel only shows a dialog box to say that one could have to install firmwares, it's ok. So, thanks you. Sadly, it does not resolve my original problem of clocksource... I guess I'll have to reinstall. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/36b8e96a3b4d8f802e18f77a2c148...@neutralite.org
Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 07:57:46AM +, Curt wrote: On 2013-10-06, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: I think that comment was basically that /etc/cron.daily/apt doesn't have anything to do with log rotation. So you are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe he thought that given the apt script is run before the logrotate script in cron.daily (if indeed they're handled in alphabetical order? (apparently, yes, they're run in 'lexical sort order' order according to the run-parts man page)), if the apt script hung for any reason, the logrotate script would never get past the bottleneck, thus explaining his problem. Remember what Benny Hill said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jaKkE0RsI -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131007102336.GA17340@tal
Compiz on Debian 7.1 problem
good day, please be possible to add repositories in compiz again, many users here in Brazil, the viviaolinux.org need this package and it is no longer possible to use the debian, some are switching distributions for this problem, it is not possible to compile it, or use the version 0.9.9 of ubuntu, any tips? thank you
Re: Compiz on Debian 7.1 problem
Le 07.10.2013 12:44, Douglas Brito a écrit : good day, please be possible to add repositories in compiz again, many users here in Brazil, the viviaolinux.org need this package and it is no longer possible to use the debian, some are switching distributions for this problem, it is not possible to compile it, or use the version 0.9.9 of ubuntu, any tips? thank you I do not know why it is not in stable, but I can see it in unstable: http://packages.debian.org/search?lang=frsearchon=nameskeywords=compiz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8dffc8b600169821140771f0c4db8...@neutralite.org
Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?
On 2013-10-07, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Maybe he thought that given the apt script is run before the logrotate script in cron.daily (if indeed they're handled in alphabetical order? (apparently, yes, they're run in 'lexical sort order' order according to the run-parts man page)), if the apt script hung for any reason, the logrotate script would never get past the bottleneck, thus explaining should have 'run-parts' Anyhow, it's a vain _hypothesis_ a proposal intended to explain certain facts or observations his problem. Remember what Benny Hill said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jaKkE0RsI but not an assumption a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; a hypothesis that is taken for granted -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl55951.2gs.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 12:09:27PM +, Curt wrote: On 2013-10-07, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Remember what Benny Hill said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jaKkE0RsI but not an assumption a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a conclusion can be drawn; a hypothesis that is taken for granted Ah, that sounds more like presume: http://www.grammarly.com/answers/questions/1073-what-is-the-difference-between-assume-and-presume/ -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20131007122107.GA19073@tal
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 2013-10-07, Oliver Fairhall o.fairh...@iinet.net.au wrote: I want a light weight DE, and was thinking to use XFCE (been fine on my other distros). I'm at best an intermediate level with Linux, so will likely struggle with not installing Gnome (really don't want Gnome or KDE). With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments, then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the way it's done: debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl55cqn.2kc.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
Le 07.10.2013 15:12, Curt a écrit : On 2013-10-07, Oliver Fairhall o.fairh...@iinet.net.au wrote: I want a light weight DE, and was thinking to use XFCE (been fine on my other distros). I'm at best an intermediate level with Linux, so will likely struggle with not installing Gnome (really don't want Gnome or KDE). With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments, then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the way it's done: debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso The problem is that what you describe does not work as expected, according to the OP. It seem that installing XFCE DE will also install network-manager-gnome, which recommends the gnome desktop. Because recommendations are automatically installed, this will result in having gnome installed, and Oliver wants light weight DE and not installing Gnome. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cbc7f3883ca81c4b0a826faa1c3d1...@neutralite.org
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: On 10/06/2013 05:33 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment installations. But when the systems rebooted, I was at the Gnome desktop. [snip] is it possible that [the display manager at login] did offer you a choice (via, say, a drop-down menu or something), with gnome pre-selected as the default? No, I suppose I should have mentioned that. The default choice (from lightdm) was default xsession. The only other choice in the dropdown on the login was gnome. I didn't see Xfce listed at all. okay, i see. interesting. that is more misbehavior than is reported thus far at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718855 . the absence of Xfce from the DM selections---that is missing from the report. the report just says Xfce isn't the default selection in lightdm. I think that was on the stable installations. I didn't even check when I saw gnome pop up after logging on on the subsequent attempts to install LXDE or Xfce stable or testing installations. I just started over, because I didn't want to leave these folks with systems that had so much extraneous stuff on them. I mean, it was hundreds of megabytes, not just a few packages. It was the whole gnome DE. yeah, i hear you. ps: i did a recent install for a friend, as well, and i believe we ran into bug #718855, too. it does break the principle of least surprise, but it did not prevent us from selecting an xfce session from the display manager. (at least, i don't *think* i had to do anything more fu-intensive than select xfce from a drop-down in the DM greeter. memory is a little fuzzy.) That's very interesting. On the early installations done this weekend I added some software from within aptitude in TTY1 before trying to log on. I wonder if that variable had anything to do with the difference. i'll have to pay better attention on my next install, and take some notes. whatever i did[1], i ended up with a wheezy installation with both gnome and Xfce selectable from the display manager. i aimed for variety over minimalism, i made no effort to exclude gnome, and in fact was happy to have it included. however, like you say... Still, even if one were to be given the choice of logging on to an Xfce session, how many people would be happy with this outcome of the installation process? I mean, I guess most people go with LXDE or Xfce because they don't want something as big as gnome or kde sitting on their systems. yeah, definitely. for installations valuing minimalism over variety, bringing in gnome would not be a welcome side effect at all. Attempting to get a clean Xfce and / or LXDE installation from both stable and testing and getting hundreds of megabytes of gnome is just weird. totally agree. btw, i don't see LXDE mentioned in bug 718855. speaking of which,... I can see how it happens, but I wouldn't think that the Xfce or LXDE maintainers would be very happy about it. Yet I don't see any comments from them on the bug report. well, so far it looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718855 talks about how installing Xfce brings in gnome, and fails to make Xfce the default session selection. i don't see any mention there about the DM omitting Xfce as a session choice. and i see no mention of LXDE at all, though the lxde package recommends network-manager-gnome as well. It wasn't hard to fix, but I'm sure it would really mess up a new user. sure would. definitely. If I get time this week I may just do some testing of the installation process to confirm what I remember. sounds good. same here. one way or another, it looks like the bug report could use some supplementary info. Thank you for your observation. It's given me something to mull over. likewise. see you at the bug report. cheers, wes [1] hmm. now, thinking it over in the light of day, i might well have apt-gotten the xfce4 package from a console, post-installation, and then cherry-picked other Xfce packages that looked useful. maybe. whatever it was, i now doubt it was whatever a new user would be likely to do. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1310070716140.5...@brutus.ling.ohio-state.edu
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 2013-10-07, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments, then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the way it's done: debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso The problem is that what you describe does not work as expected, according to the OP. I followed the procedure described above, installing to a usb key, and when I booted the usb key I was in the desktop environment of my choice and not in Gnome. But I can't remember whether I chose Xfce or LXDE (but he said for the both of them he ended up in Gnome). So what I described worked as expected for me (I think--I didn't check to see whether all of Gnome got installed somehow behind my back). Anyhoo, the plot sickens. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl55ev9.2m4.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 2013-10-07, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments, then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the way it's done: debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso The problem is that what you describe does not work as expected, according to the OP. I followed the procedure described above, installing to a usb key, and when I booted the usb key I was in the desktop environment of my choice and not in Gnome. But I can't remember whether I chose Xfce or LXDE (but he said for the both of them he ended up in Gnome). So what I described worked as expected for me (I think--I didn't check to see whether all of Gnome got installed somehow behind my back). Anyhoo, the plot sickens. Actually, rereading his post, I don't see him saying he followed the procedure I followed anywhere; rather he says he installed testing without a DE, then tried to install a lightweight desktop with aptitude, so this is something of time-waster, isn't it? apt-get --no-install-recommends No? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnl55foo.2mk.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 10/07/2013 10:02 AM, Curt wrote: On 2013-10-07, Curtcu...@free.fr wrote: With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments, then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the way it's done: debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso The problem is that what you describe does not work as expected, according to the OP. I followed the procedure described above, installing to a usb key, and when I booted the usb key I was in the desktop environment of my choice and not in Gnome. But I can't remember whether I chose Xfce or LXDE (but he said for the both of them he ended up in Gnome). So what I described worked as expected for me (I think--I didn't check to see whether all of Gnome got installed somehow behind my back). Anyhoo, the plot sickens. Actually, rereading his post, I don't see him saying he followed the procedure I followed anywhere; rather he says he installed testing without a DE, then tried to install a lightweight desktop with aptitude, so this is something of time-waster, isn't it? apt-get --no-install-recommends No? Hi, Just to be sure you don't misunderstand me -- I did use the alternative desktop choices in the installer, and the expert installation procedure. I tried allowing installation of both the lxde and xfce desktops on different installs. In both cases, I would up with a default login to the gnome desktop. I then tried installing without a DE. Any attempt to install task-xfce-desktop was going to bring gnome onto the system. Installing only the xfce package plus lightdm plus xfce-goodies turned out to be the way to go. But trying to install network-manager-gnome, again, brings in the whole gnome DE unless you don't install recommends. The only reason I wanted these folks to have network-manager-gnome is that it's currently the only easy way for regular end users to use and configure a variety of VPN software. I also didn't want to wind up with a bunch of manual package installs that would hang around if they decided to drop network-manager for something like Wicd (which, unfortunately, does not yet support VPN connections from its GUI). These folks are sophisticated enough to want to use VPN connections when they're connecting to public wireless locations. They just don't know enough about package management to sort this sort of thing out for themselves. I wanted to leave them with systems they could reconfigure easily for themselves. What wes is suggesting is that I might have missed the possibility that Xfce was still being offered, just not as the default Xsession. I don't think that's what happened in this case, but I had already messed with the installations from TTY1 before logging in from the lightdm prompt. So, it's possible that I did something to cause Xfce to be missing from the dropdown selection. It's possible -- We had baskets of wine. Our wives (the responsible ones) weren't watching us carefully, and we had worked out way down to the cooking sherry in the kitchen by the time the installations had begun. (This was not a serious undertaking. It was some buddies setting up some spare Debian boxes for two of the families to experiment with, so we weren't taking notes.) The bug report clearly states that Xfce is still available after an installation, but that Gnome comes up as the default choice. That -- with the possible exception of the availability of Xfce -- is certainly what I saw. I also saw exactly the same behavior with an attempted LXDE installation. You installed the OS to a key. I can't imagine why, but maybe d-i behaves a bit differently in this respect when installing to a key??? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252c89a.6090...@comcast.net
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
Le 07.10.2013 16:02, Curt a écrit : On 2013-10-07, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments, then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the way it's done: debian-wheezy-DI-rc1-amd64-netinst.iso The problem is that what you describe does not work as expected, according to the OP. I followed the procedure described above, installing to a usb key, and when I booted the usb key I was in the desktop environment of my choice and not in Gnome. But I can't remember whether I chose Xfce or LXDE (but he said for the both of them he ended up in Gnome). So what I described worked as expected for me (I think--I didn't check to see whether all of Gnome got installed somehow behind my back). Anyhoo, the plot sickens. Actually, rereading his post, I don't see him saying he followed the procedure I followed anywhere; rather he says he installed testing without a DE, then tried to install a lightweight desktop with aptitude, so this is something of time-waster, isn't it? If so, yes, but I think that he first tried the procedure you described, because of those words: I needed to do a fresh installation of Debian on two systems for friends this weekend. I tried both stable (7.1) and the 10/02/2013 daily of testing -- both of them the netinst image. For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment installations. But when the systems rebooted, I was at the Gnome desktop. snip Okay. So I installed Debian testing without a DE, and then tried to add xfce-desktop via aptitude. I saw that I was still going to get Gnome and canceled the operation. I think that he meant that he first tried the normal way, and when seeing that it was not working tried testing with installation from aptitude. But I might have misunderstood something, would not be the first time and probably not the last too :) apt-get --no-install-recommends No? I guess. Must admit that my installation process is not really the fastest one: installing no package at first, then on reboot disabling automatic installation of recommended packages and finally install what I know I'll use :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b0b6600534f2ca73551ff3cf79d74...@neutralite.org
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 10/07/2013 09:37 AM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: On 10/06/2013 05:33 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment installations. But when the systems rebooted, I was at the Gnome desktop. [snip] is it possible that [the display manager at login] did offer you a choice (via, say, a drop-down menu or something), with gnome pre-selected as the default? No, I suppose I should have mentioned that. The default choice (from lightdm) was default xsession. The only other choice in the dropdown on the login was gnome. I didn't see Xfce listed at all. okay, i see. interesting. that is more misbehavior than is reported thus far at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718855 . the absence of Xfce from the DM selections---that is missing from the report. the report just says Xfce isn't the default selection in lightdm. I hope that is actually the case. I am sober now and not kibbitzing with my buddies, but don't have much time. If I can get some free time I'll try again with my eyes open and taking notes for a possible contribution to the bug report. I say I hope that is the case, because that would mean that a new user could install one of these lightweight environments and just deal temporarily with the dross until the package management / dependency issues are fixed, at which time the upgrade process might offer to remove gnome during an upgrade. Of course, that would probably confuse the heck out of 'em, too, wouldn't it? I think that was on the stable installations. I didn't even check when I saw gnome pop up after logging on on the subsequent attempts to install LXDE or Xfce stable or testing installations. I just started over, because I didn't want to leave these folks with systems that had so much extraneous stuff on them. I mean, it was hundreds of megabytes, not just a few packages. It was the whole gnome DE. yeah, i hear you. ps: i did a recent install for a friend, as well, and i believe we ran into bug #718855, too. it does break the principle of least surprise, but it did not prevent us from selecting an xfce session from the display manager. (at least, i don't *think* i had to do anything more fu-intensive than select xfce from a drop-down in the DM greeter. memory is a little fuzzy.) That's very interesting. On the early installations done this weekend I added some software from within aptitude in TTY1 before trying to log on. I wonder if that variable had anything to do with the difference. i'll have to pay better attention on my next install, and take some notes. whatever i did[1], i ended up with a wheezy installation with both gnome and Xfce selectable from the display manager. I'm inclined to think that -- if one of us did something unusual to the clean installation -- it was probably me. The, ah, neurological manifestations of fermented grape and the social dynamics (wise-asses and wisecracks) could not have been conducive to precise use of the CLI and aptitude following those initial installations. i aimed for variety over minimalism, i made no effort to exclude gnome, and in fact was happy to have it included. however, like you say... Still, even if one were to be given the choice of logging on to an Xfce session, how many people would be happy with this outcome of the installation process? I mean, I guess most people go with LXDE or Xfce because they don't want something as big as gnome or kde sitting on their systems. yeah, definitely. for installations valuing minimalism over variety, bringing in gnome would not be a welcome side effect at all. Yup. Attempting to get a clean Xfce and / or LXDE installation from both stable and testing and getting hundreds of megabytes of gnome is just weird. totally agree. btw, i don't see LXDE mentioned in bug 718855. speaking of which,... Yeah, and that definitely happened. The LXDE installation was done by a friend with some sysadmin experience taking directions from me. I watched him do the Expert installation of lxde properly, and we got a Gnome desktop the first time he logged in from lightdm. I can see how it happens, but I wouldn't think that the Xfce or LXDE maintainers would be very happy about it. Yet I don't see any comments from them on the bug report. well, so far it looks like http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718855 talks about how installing Xfce brings in gnome, and fails to make Xfce the default session selection. i don't see any mention there about the DM omitting Xfce as a session choice. and i see no mention of LXDE at all, though the lxde package recommends network-manager-gnome as well. Yeah, I really hope to get some time to check this out. Still, wouldn't you think the maintainers and release team would have seen this??? It wasn't hard to fix, but I'm sure it would
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 10/07/2013 03:10 AM, Oliver Fairhall wrote: Thanks for posting on this Jape. I'm new to Debian (preparing to install soon) and will likely be caught by this. Hope it's OK to ask some newby questions. If you don't mind getting (possibly) dumb answers. ;-) I want a light weight DE, and was thinking to use XFCE (been fine on my other distros). I'm at best an intermediate level with Linux, so will likely struggle with not installing Gnome (really don't want Gnome or KDE). On 07/10/13 02:31, Jape Person wrote: From my perspective, it looks to me as though the problem is network-manager-gnome's desire to install gnome-control-center. Xfce and LXDE both want network-manager-gnome, so they also get gnome-control-center, gnome-session, and just about everything else gnome-like. Is it possible to not install network-manager-gnome when installing Debian with XFCE? I've bypassed the network manager in Ubuntu in the past, running on a desktop machine, and just configured network access by text file anyway. Not sure if that would make things awkward on a laptop connecting to different wireless sites. Are all these Gnome packages real dependencies for network-manager-gnome, or are they just selected by some other means? Is there an alternative network manager for XFCE, and can one be selected during initial installation? Thanks for any help. Cheers, Oli There are a lot of alternatives, but the decision tree for getting through the choices may not be easy for you unless you know just what you want. You don't get to pick-and-choose which network manager you want with which DE -- not during the d-i process. The easiest way to manage this is to *not* install the desktop environment. I'm not sure, but that may require that you use the Expert install procedure. I just don't know. I've never used the regular procedure. Anyway, if you uncheck the Desktop environment installation at software installation selection time, you'll wind up following the reboot at TTY1 -- simply because no GUI has been installed. You will then have to log in as root (or use sudo if you elected during installation not to allow login as root) to install the DE in a somewhat piecemeal fashion. Here's my somewhat disjointed notes on what got installed from aptitude on TTY1: * Desktop Environment and Desktop Manager * xfce4 * lightdm * xfce4 enhancements * xfce4-goodies * xfce4-power-manager * xfce4-mixer * xfce4-terminal * xfce text editor * mousepad * office applications * libreoffice-gtk * xfce inter-application / inter-system communications * dbus-x11 * support for scanners * xsane * media players * parole (standard Xfce choices applications for this are vlc and quodlibet) * pdf viewer * evince-gtk * icon theme * tango-icon-theme * network management * wicd (replacement for standard Xfce choice, network-manager-gnome, which has dependency issues right now) * package management * synaptic I'm pretty sure a lot of that (after xfce4, lightdm, and xfce-goodies) was pulled in automatically by xfce4. Exceptions would be libreoffice-gtk, parole (or vlc and quodlibet), evince-gtk, wicd, synaptice (not sure about this one). Wicd is an easy-to-use network manager that I think suits Xfce better than network-manager-gnome, but network-manager-gnome has plugins for using VPNs though its graphical interface, and that's a very valuable thing to have. I'll probably go back to those systems this weekend, rip out wicd, and put in network-manager-gnome, but with only selected recommends. We were just too tired and dumb at the end of installations to be in a pick-and-choose mode. So, you could try using apt-get or aptitude or synaptic to install network-manager-gnome without the recommends and just add the ones you need manually. The only disadvantage to this is that manually installed packages don't get cleaned up by package management when you remove whatever it was you installed them to support. *Or* if it turns out that Xfce is actually usable from the login screen after the installer finishes installing it and all of the gnome stuff, you could just use it and let gnome sit there until (we hope) aptitude / synaptic offers to remove it when task-xfce-desktop gets upgraded to a version that doesn't want all of the gnome stuff any more. As I've said elsewhere in the thread, we just started over from scratch and went with Xfce only because we really, really didn't want gnome on these systems. I hope this is helpful. I think we can probably count on the Debian xfce / lxde maintainers to figure out a fix in a reasonable amount of time, so just going with the flow may work for you. On the other hand, the only slightly harder path that I outlined isn't really that bad, and you might enjoy the experience. I love screwing stuff up and fixing it. Regards, Jape -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 10/07/2013 10:43 AM, Jape Person wrote: These folks are sophisticated enough to want to use VPN connections when they're connecting to public wireless locations. They just don't know enough about package management to sort this sort of thing out for themselves. I wanted to leave them with systems they could reconfigure easily for themselves. I never thought about that.. so if I'm away from home on an unsecure network, I could setup a VPN at home, tunnel in, and use that as securely as I do sitting at home.. I never considered that, but I might now! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252d520.4020...@gmail.com
Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On 10/07/2013 11:37 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 10/07/2013 10:43 AM, Jape Person wrote: These folks are sophisticated enough to want to use VPN connections when they're connecting to public wireless locations. They just don't know enough about package management to sort this sort of thing out for themselves. I wanted to leave them with systems they could reconfigure easily for themselves. I never thought about that.. so if I'm away from home on an unsecure network, I could setup a VPN at home, tunnel in, and use that as securely as I do sitting at home.. I never considered that, but I might now! Or you can use something like the riseup.net VPN (if you're a member) or a commercial VPN in the same situation. Easy to set up a bunch of them, and pick and choose among them when you're out and around. I hope a lot of people start doing this sort of thing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5252da37.50...@comcast.net
schroot
This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it documented: . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data' file?) and (more important) where is this documented? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAH_OBicid_VO1OBjuvcywypee8=Y3ZpbNWrCT3rCf1=tnqy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: schroot
Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit : This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it documented: . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data' file?) and (more important) where is this documented? Doing echo $SETUP_DATA_DIR should help you, I think. And for documentation, reading about shell will also help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/6c8fe63572c303ff7017f63dd8d19...@neutralite.org
Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?
Curt cu...@free.fr writes: On 2013-10-06, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: I think that comment was basically that /etc/cron.daily/apt doesn't have anything to do with log rotation. So you are barking up the wrong tree. Maybe he thought that given the apt script is run before the logrotate script in cron.daily (if indeed they're handled in alphabetical order? (apparently, yes, they're run in 'lexical sort order' order according to the run-parts man page)), if the apt script hung for any reason, the logrotate script would never get past the bottleneck, thus explaining his problem. Thank you. Although poorly expressed, that was my reasoning. But it turns out, although apt does take a long time it does finish and eventually the /etc/cron.daily/logrotate gets fired. So, apparently that is not the problem. Or maybe I should just wait for him to reveal his reasoning, if he ever does. Further testing... first take anacron out of play as BobP suggests. I removed the the anacron part of the line in /etc/crontab original(except dates) : 47 22 * * * root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily edited: 47 22 * * * root cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily And then adjusted the time to be able to watch the test. Although there is a hefty pause for the `apt' script, it finishes and logs are rotated, not what I thought was happening. So it seems to indicate that anacron is the problem but no, there's more. Then I switched the /etc/crontab line again so that anacron was the only thing on it. And, well, once again hefty pause for `apt' script but logs are rotated. OK, so my problem is solved I have no idea what I did to `fix' it, but it was totally accidental whatever it was. Rotation is apparently working as it should. Thank you all for the input and patience. One final question: I decided to rename the /etc/cron.daily/logrotate script to /etc/cron.daily/00logrotate, so that it runs first. Just in case what ever caused my problem ... comes up again. At least 00logrotate will have the best chance of getting run. Can anyone think of any problems that renaming step might cause? I mean other than it might get overwritten, sometime in the future, back to the default setup and so would possibly need maintenance. Of course there are other ways, like removing the /etc/cron.daily/logrotate script altogether and running logrotate from roots' crontab. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87siwdyq4j@newsguy.com
Re: schroot
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit : This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it documented: . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data' file?) and (more important) where is this documented? Doing echo $SETUP_DATA_DIR should help you, I think. And for documentation, reading about shell will also help you. I'm guessing this means it's exported by some schroot internal mechanism inside the schroot? I'm not sure what I don't know about bash that would help here? This doesn't seem to be an export bash knows about? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca1a02d3-a87e-4b9e-aaba-c8dc743d8...@email.android.com
Re: Debian wheezy boot problem - Boot sector not identified by board
Le 07.10.2013 09:54, Roland RoLaNd a écrit : All, I have an intel dh77kc board. it previously had windows 7 installed on it. i tried installing debian wheezy net install. installation goes perfectly fine up untill reboot. once reboot is done, i get Initializing and establishing link and immediately goes into network boot I tried resetting bios settings to default, i even upgraded the bios itself. and changed from AHCI to IDE nothing is working so far. Note: i thought it's not debian specific, by installing windows 7 again. and it worked fine.. Any hint on what might be going on ? Are you sure the flag boot is set on the right partition? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5d36dfb019ac15e1577048f18e5cf...@neutralite.org
Re: schroot
Le 07.10.2013 18:59, Shawn Wilson a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit : This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it documented: . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data' file?) and (more important) where is this documented? Doing echo $SETUP_DATA_DIR should help you, I think. And for documentation, reading about shell will also help you. I'm guessing this means it's exported by some schroot internal mechanism inside the schroot? I'm not sure what I don't know about bash that would help here? This doesn't seem to be an export bash knows about? I have no idea about what are the files you are speaking about, but the $ prefix usually indicates a variable in shell, and shell scripts are widely used in the system. To find what file could export that variable, try a grep -r SETUP_DATA_DIR, it might help you find which file uses that variable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c1e9972943119920c856a4233d103...@neutralite.org
Re: ddrescue and windowsxp
On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 03:43 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: On Oct 5, 2013 1:05 AM, steef debian.li...@home.nl wrote: hi folks, my eldest daughter has an old laptop with windowsxp loaded on it. the machine crashed yesterday. my question: can i use debian and the ddrescue-procedure to save the data of this laptop like i did about 7 years ago with a crashed slackware_hd?? google confused me. thank you, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/524fc84c.1000...@home.nl What I used to backup data from crashed windows xp drive was Knoppix 7.2 live CD. Backed up to flash drive then with gparted deleted partition and then was able to run Winxp disk. This was on a friends pc. I run dual boot Windows 7 Pro/Xubuntu 12.04 on my main tower (Dell GX280, 3gb memory) Robert I've never used such ddrescue-procedure, but with any live distro and sufficient hard disk space you can use: # dd if=/dev/sdX of=/media/yourmountpoint/backupfilename to extract and image of that disk to be worked on elsewhere. If you need to check which device is the primary disk use: # fdisk -l and look for previously known disk sizes. -- André N. Batista GNUPG/PGP KEY: 6722CF80 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1381168345.13006.41.camel@tagesuhu-pc
Re: schroot
Le 07.10.2013 19:50, shawn wilson a écrit :
Not a bad idea. However:
find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -i{} -P 10 grep -H
'SETUP_DATA_DIR='
{} 2 /dev/null
found nothing.
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 07.10.2013 18:59, Shawn Wilson a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit :
This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it
documented:
. $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data
. $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions
. $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config
Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data'
file?) and (more important) where is this documented?
Doing echo $SETUP_DATA_DIR should help you, I think. And for
documentation, reading about shell will also help you.
I'm guessing this means it's exported by some schroot internal
mechanism inside the schroot? I'm not sure what I don't know about
bash that would help here? This doesn't seem to be an export bash
knows about?
I have no idea about what are the files you are speaking about, but
the $
prefix usually indicates a variable in shell, and shell scripts are
widely
used in the system. To find what file could export that variable,
try a grep
-r SETUP_DATA_DIR, it might help you find which file uses that
variable.
Do not send me private mail for something like that, it could interest
someone else on the list.
Honestly, I can not help you more that that, I do not use chroot very
often, and do not know what is schroot. If the variable is not defined,
then maybe it have a default value.
Maybe if you find other files containing simply the SETUP_DATA_DIR text
(without '=' or '$') you could find more hints.
PS: do the giant line you posted above make the same thing as grep -r
'SETUP_DATA_DIR=' 2/dev/null ? If yes, it seems quite complex for what
it does...
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Re: ddrescue and windowsxp
On 05-10-13 13:26, Doug wrote: On 10/05/2013 04:05 AM, steef wrote: hi folks, my eldest daughter has an old laptop with windowsxp loaded on it. the machine crashed yesterday. my question: can i use debian and the ddrescue-procedure to save the data of this laptop like i did about 7 years ago with a crashed slackware_hd?? google confused me. thank you, steef google for XP rescue and see what you get. There are a whole bunch of rescue disks available. I have about 4, but have never had to use one. I think they're all based on Linux, but i don't know how they work. Good luck --doug hi doug (and other kind people), i succeeded with knoppix 7.02. after this, just for fun, i followed the allmost - antique procedure - with ddrescue. both methods worked well. thank you all for your help, regards, steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52531b7c.6010...@home.nl
Re: schroot
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:20 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 07.10.2013 19:50, shawn wilson a écrit :
Not a bad idea. However:
find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -i{} -P 10 grep -H 'SETUP_DATA_DIR='
{} 2 /dev/null
found nothing.
Just to be complete (so that maybe this shows up on google when the
next person has issues finding undocumented stuff in schroot - it's
not in the man page as my search implies btw):
/usr/share # find -iname *.bz2 | while read f; do t=$(bzcat $f |
grep SETUP_DATA_DIR); test -n $t echo $f echo $t; done
./doc/schroot-1.6.5-r1/contrib/setup.d/05customdir.bz2
. $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data . $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions .
$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config
./doc/schroot-1.6.5-r1/ChangeLog.bz2
Add SCHROOT_DATA_DIR, SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR and replace DATA_DIR and
SETUP_DATA_DIR. Add SCHROOT_DATA_DIR, SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR and
replace DATA_DIR and SETUP_DATA_DIR.
./man/man7/schroot-faq.7.bz2
.ds SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR /usr/share/schroot/setup
./man/man5/schroot.conf.5.bz2
.ds SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR /usr/share/schroot/setup
./man/man5/schroot-setup.5.bz2
.ds SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR /usr/share/schroot/setup
./man/man5/schroot-script-config.5.bz2
.ds SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR /usr/share/schroot/setup
./man/man1/dchroot.1.bz2
.ds SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR /usr/share/schroot/setup
./man/man1/dchroot-dsa.1.bz2
.ds SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR /usr/share/schroot/setup
./man/man1/schroot.1.bz2
.ds SCHROOT_SETUP_DATA_DIR /usr/share/schroot/setup
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 07.10.2013 18:59, Shawn Wilson a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit :
This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it
documented:
. $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data
. $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions
. $SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config
Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data'
file?) and (more important) where is this documented?
Doing echo $SETUP_DATA_DIR should help you, I think. And for
documentation, reading about shell will also help you.
I'm guessing this means it's exported by some schroot internal
mechanism inside the schroot? I'm not sure what I don't know about
bash that would help here? This doesn't seem to be an export bash
knows about?
I have no idea about what are the files you are speaking about, but the $
prefix usually indicates a variable in shell, and shell scripts are
widely
used in the system. To find what file could export that variable, try a
grep
-r SETUP_DATA_DIR, it might help you find which file uses that variable.
Do not send me private mail for something like that, it could interest
someone else on the list.
That was an accident (I was guessing telling me reading about shell
would be helpful that you might not be the person to talk to but I
like to follow up).
Honestly, I can not help you more that that, I do not use chroot very often,
and do not know what is schroot. If the variable is not defined, then maybe
it have a default value.
Maybe if you find other files containing simply the SETUP_DATA_DIR text
(without '=' or '$') you could find more hints.
PS: do the giant line you posted above make the same thing as grep -r
'SETUP_DATA_DIR=' 2/dev/null ? If yes, it seems quite complex for what it
does...
Quite, but xargs gives one major advantage - that -P allows you to
parallelize grep and sending the process SIGUSR1/SIGUSR2 increases or
decreases that parallelization. (This also meant that my laptop shat
bricks due to a slower hdd and I had to revert to a server).
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Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?
On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:01:15 -0400 Jape Person jap...@comcast.net wrote: I hope that is actually the case. I am sober now and not kibbitzing with my buddies, but don't have much time. If I can get some free time I'll try again with my eyes open and taking notes for a possible contribution to the bug report. I say I hope that is the case, because that would mean that a new user could install one of these lightweight environments and just deal temporarily with the dross until the package management / dependency issues are fixed, at which time the upgrade process might offer to remove gnome during an upgrade. Of course, that would probably confuse the heck out of 'em, too, wouldn't it? OK, a datum: My workstation has had Gnome forcibly extracted, or the desktop at least, so it doesn't count. But I also have a hard drive containing Debian sid, which was definitely installed Gnomelessly. The initial installation was from Squeeze, with a fairly minimal non-graphical installation which was immediately dist-upgraded to sid before pulling in lots of other stuff, to minimise wasted downloads. It's not recommended to make the jump from Stable to Unstable in one go, without passing through Testing, but this was such a tiny system that there wasn't a problem. I don't have the full installation log (I really should get into the habit of manually logging everything I do, so a good bit of advice is for you to start doing that if you don't already), but here is the very first part of my bash history, and also the *current* list of Gnomestuff. I have not removed any of that, this is all there has ever been. I have installed a fair number of applications, including LXDE and heavily graphical stuff such as libreoffice, the gEDA suite and gimp. As you can see, my admin text editor of choice is CoolEdit in mc, so that is normally the first application installed, to edit sources-list. bash history from the beginning: aptitude update aptitude safe-upgrade aptitude install mc mc aptitude update df aptitude dist-upgrade reboot .. [sudo installed, then various admin tasks, then graphics and LXDE] Current Gnome components: gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 3.8.1-2i386 gnome-accessibility-themes3.8.4-1all gnome-bluetooth 3.8.1-2i386 gnome-games-data 1:3.4.2-3 all gnome-games-extra-data3.2.0-4all gnome-icon-theme 3.8.3-1all gnome-icon-theme-symbolic 3.8.2.2-2 all gnome-keyring 3.8.2-2i386 gnome-mahjongg1:3.8.0-1 i386 gnome-menus 3.8.0-2i386 gnome-screenshot 3.8.3-1i386 gnome-themes-standard:i3863.8.4-1i386 gnome-themes-standard-data3.8.4-1all libgnome-bluetooth11 3.8.1-2i386 libgnome-keyring-common 3.8.0-2all libgnome-keyring0:i3863.8.0-2i386 libgnome-menu-3-0 3.8.0-2i386 libpam-gnome-keyring 3.8.2-2i386 libsoup-gnome2.4-1:i386 2.42.2-6 i386 network-manager-gnome 0.9.8.4-1 i386 network-manager-openvpn-gnome 0.9.8.4-1 i386 policykit-1-gnome 0.105-2i386 Most of the later software was added with Synaptic, which was installed as soon as I had graphics. I use command-line aptitude frequently, but I've never really got friendly with ncurses aptitude. Begging the group's indulgence for including this much text, but here is the aptitude log from the initial installation up to the full installation of LXDE, showing the order I included the graphical bits, and all the dependencies at each stage. Hardly a Gnome in sight, so it can be done. Obviously, if you're sticking with the current Stable, there will be no dist-upgrade stage. Note that in sid, at least, network-manager-gnome is a dependency not only of Gnome, but of LXDE, of task-xfce-desktop and of network-manager. For anyone interested, the hard drive installation was made on an amd64 machine, but with i386 and generic (i.e. kitchen sink) kernel options selected during installation. The intention was that the drive should boot on my Atom netbook and hopefully my Sempron laptop, and it does, and it also boots on nearly every i386 and amd64 computer I've tried. It's a 2.5 inch 160GB external drive and it's USB powered and pocket-sized. To misquote Crocodile Dundee, *This* is a portable computer. ** Aptitude 0.6.3: log report Sat, Dec 22 2012 20:49:35 + IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to dpkg problems may not be completed. Will install 11 packages, and remove 0 packages. 12.3 kB of disk space will be used ===
NEWBIE installation report - was [Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?]
Jape Person wrote: On 10/07/2013 09:37 AM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: On 10/06/2013 05:33 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment installations. But when the systems rebooted, I was at the Gnome desktop. [snip] is it possible that [the display manager at login] did offer you a choice (via, say, a drop-down menu or something), with gnome pre-selected as the default? No, I suppose I should have mentioned that. The default choice (from lightdm) was default xsession. The only other choice in the dropdown on the login was gnome. I didn't see Xfce listed at all. okay, i see. interesting. that is more misbehavior than is reported thus far at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=718855 . the absence of Xfce from the DM selections---that is missing from the report. the report just says Xfce isn't the default selection in lightdm. I hope that is actually the case. I am sober now and not kibbitzing with my buddies, but don't have much time. If I can get some free time I'll try again with my eyes open and taking notes for a possible contribution to the bug report. I say I hope that is the case, because that would mean that a new user could install one of these lightweight environments and just deal temporarily with the dross until the package management / dependency issues are fixed, at which time the upgrade process might offer to remove gnome during an upgrade. Of course, that would probably confuse the heck out of 'em, too, wouldn't it? [SNIP] I just did an install from [Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 Wheezy - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20130615-21:54] My choices from the the opening set of menus were: Advanced Options Alternative desktop environments Xfce Advanced options Expert install [ I may not be Expert but am Control Freak ;] Thereafter I usually took default choices except to manual partition. At Software selection I chose Debian desktop environment Laptop Standard system utilities That got me a login with only Xfce available. The above installed almost 1000 packages. OUCH! It occupies ~2.5 GB compared to similarly configured ~2.9 GB for Squeeze. Doing a similar install to another partition w/o Debian desktop had 350 packages. I followed that with a apt-get install xfce4 [installed 189 packages] On reboot got only tty1. Followed that with apt-get install lightdm [installed 8 packages including a few gnome files] That got me my loginscreen ;) It occupies ~1.4 GB compared to similarly configured ~1.2 GB for Squeeze. Just for chuckles I did a default Gnome install - 1357 packages loaded by Software selection step. Weighs in at 3.4 GB used and ugly to boot. HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5253114b.6070...@cloud85.net
Re: About debain kernel stable repo
Man, why don't you use an ordinary command: % apt-get source linux It is the most preferred way to find sources for stable release. And yes. As you have seen, the main tree of linux kernel is stored in svn repository: svn://anonscm.debian.org/svn/kernel/dists/trunk/linux/ For other questions it will be sane to write into a developers' list: Debian Kernel Team debian-ker...@lists.debian.org pgpWmA9iJCYNw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian installer and raid0
Francesco Pietra wrote: I forgot asking naively how to boot safely to the grub menu. Press a key on the keyboard before the 5 second count down timer counts all of the way down. Pressing a key stops the timer and causes it to stay on the menu waiting for keyboard input. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?
Harry Putnam wrote: Further testing... first take anacron out of play as BobP suggests. I removed the the anacron part of the line in /etc/crontab original(except dates) : Just for the record I was suggesting: apt-get remove anacron That by itself should be sufficient. And then if you desired to have it back you could: apt-get install anacron And it would all be as it was before. Either way. In or out. 47 22 * * *root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily edited: 47 22 * * *root cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily Let me comment on the idiom. In Debian we want things to be as automatic as possible. The /etc/crontab file is owned by 'cron'. But it is nice if users can install 'anacron' and have it work without needing to do anything. A long time traditional cron idiom is to test for something and then do something depending upon the test being true or false. Sometimes that is if $HOME is mounted. That way if /home is not mounted such as during some maintenance then cron won't make a lot of noise. test -d $HOME dosomething Sometimes the test will be as above with anacron. If the anacron program is installed then do nothing because anacron will do it. But if anacron is not installed then do it ourselves. test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily ) As can be seen by this logic it means that no configuration changes are needed if anacron is installed or removed or never installed or re-installed or whatever. It doesn't scale very well because cron needs to know about anacron. But for a single special case like this it works pretty well. And so if anacron is apt-get removed then /usr/sbin/anacron does not exist and run-parts will be run. It isn't necessary to edit the line if the anacron package is removed. And then adjusted the time to be able to watch the test. Sure! I do that all of the time when I am testing. Put it a minute in the future and wait for it to run. Although there is a hefty pause for the `apt' script, it finishes and logs are rotated, not what I thought was happening. It would still be interesting to know why apt is taking so long. Is it taking a long time due to the random sleep? What does this say for you? For me there is no output and the sleep is not configured. apt-config shell FOO APT::Periodic::RandomSleep So it seems to indicate that anacron is the problem but no, there's more. Then I switched the /etc/crontab line again so that anacron was the only thing on it. And, well, once again hefty pause for `apt' script but logs are rotated. OK, so my problem is solved I have no idea what I did to `fix' it, but it was totally accidental whatever it was. Perhaps restarting cron happened? Perhaps causing cron to re-read the crontab was enough to reset cron? Since it almost seems that cron was not running previously. Rotation is apparently working as it should. Yay. Good. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SOLVED] Re: Mounting a Samsung Galaxy S3.
I simply wanted to share that I've been happy with a completely different (and fully CLI) approach/solution: the android debug bridge. IIRC JellyBean requires adb version 1.0.31, which I had to compile for squeeze (and which is also provided within the android development tools package provided by google - sdk/platform-tools/adb) It is necessary to turn on USB Debugging from Settings Developer options. Since leaving this on poses a security threat, I use USB Debugging Monitor by Bit Bloo to remind me to turn if off when I disconnect. Using adb provides fast transfer speeds over a usb cable -- great for copying those titanium backup or nandroid images In order to make the file transfer process more user-friendly (since adb pull is rather cumbersome to work with - lots of paths to type manually, no tab-completion) I wrote a couple shell scripts which I would be happy to share if anyone is interested. They essentially do this: terminal 1: adb forward tcp: tcp: nc localhost | tar xf - terminal 2: adb forward tcp: tcp: adb shell ...and from the android shell, tar cf - /list/of files you want to copy | nc -l -p ~David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52531e01.1030...@angelbase.com
