Re: Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread John Magolske
* Don Armstrong  [140317 21:59]:
> Yes. loop-aes-utils has diverted mount, and a bunch of other things.
> If you remove loop-aes-utils and grml-etc-core you should be OK.

Thanks! That does indeed solve the problem of the mysteriously
versioned mount...and a few other problems as well I'm sure.

Regards,

John

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Re: .Xresources not loading on start

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 06:02:33AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> > The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original
> > .Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :)
> 
> That;s because I want my .Xresources to work, I had made colorscheme
> changes to it!

What happens if you copy 'n' paste lines from the so called faulty file
to the working one?

IOW, for some reason your .Xresources is faulty or you have a crook
entry. 

You have a good one (the one which gives you the red background)
which you have proved works, so test each entry from the faulty
.Xresources in the good one. Eventually, the files will be identical,
but hopefully you'll find the problem by then. :)

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Re: LVM preseed install fails with partition error

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 05:34:17PM +, Brian wrote:
> I'll note that the mail you sent was about 10096 in size. The file at
> paste.debian.net is about a third the size of the mail, 3800, and easily
> compressed to 1200, As an attachment sent to the List it would surely be
> acceptable. It would also not expire and serve a use for future readers.

I think the attachment size limit is about 40K, although I can't be too
sure if that relates to lists.debian.org but it does for the OT list on
alioth.

I think it is important that log and screen snapshots be accepted so
that future archive searches don't end up being directed to some
pastebin site which will probably expire after a time anyway.

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Re: LVM preseed install fails with partition error

2014-03-17 Thread Iain M Conochie





Hi Iain,

I removed all the partman related lines and created a new preseed 
file. It works now on vm but has issue with baremetal for which i'll 
start a new thread. This is my complete preseed file for reference - 
http://paste.debian.net/88147/


Cheers,
Sandeep.


I think it was getting picky with no . after the partition definition. I 
will be interested to see what issues you have with baremetal that are 
do not exist for a VM


Cheers

Iain



Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Myceneaen Magic
On 18/03/14 11:02, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:
> 
>> On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
>>> On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
>>>
 The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
>>>
>>> Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why
>>> anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our
>>> comprehension. 
>>>
>>> We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area
>>> of the Middle East.
>>>
>>> Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients
>>> who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any
>>> time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is
>>> suitable for long term storagei.
>>>
>>> We have scribes who rarely mistake 1s for 0s or vice versa. Employees
>>> who do are weeded out by our Quality Control Section and transferred to
>>> our sister company, Pyramid Enterprises PLC.
>>>
>>> Security of your data is of paramount importance to us; there is no
>>> compromise in this area of our operations. Even shepherd boys and goats
>>> are actively dissuaded from entering within a 10 km radius of our
>>> operations.
>>>
>>> Our distinguised clients Nefertiti, Isaiah and Tutankhamun have many,
>>> many good things to say about our services. Unfortunately, they are
>>> offline at present so are unable to answer your queries.
>>>
>>> Forget the Cloud - choose the Cave. You know it makes sense.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yet another desperate attempt by a failing company to capitalize on this
>> list's readership by pushing unproven technology.
>> A passing fad - what next? Asterix trying to sell bolders as portable?
>>
>> Get with it - tablets are the only way to go.
>> Always have been been, always will be.
>>
>> Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof!
> 
> 
> It's always the same; some attitudes never change. Introduce the most
> exciting invention since that of the abacus (thank you Jobs of Memphis)
> and some Stone Age Old Worlder chips in with a plea to continue the
> depletion of one of the Earth's non-renewable resources.
> 
> Ever tried transporting the Epic of Gilgamesh from Babylon to Thebes in
> tablet form? Let me tell you, it's horrendous.
> 
> Can't remember the number of donkeys and carts it took but the feed bill
> was astonomical. As for customs at the borders, they though we were
> importing buiding materials so the bribes mounted up. And don't have an
> accident; sticking the broken pieces back together is no fun, even after
> the pain in your toes has worn off.
> 
> Papyrus: just a few sheets which can be rolled up and put in your
> pocket. Reading it while riding on the back of a camel is also a
> pleasant way of passing the time on a long journey.
> 
> Someone who sold blank tablets once said 640 is enough for anyone. We
> envisage information as unlimited and we're expanding, with branches
> opened recently in Athens and Rome. Tomorrow the world!
> 
> 

It 'sounds' very attractive... until the donkey eats your backups.

Tablets - just do it! (no ink required)

For a limited time only we'll throw in not one, but two free reeds with
every order from debian user subscribers.

We built our reputation on tablets (and our office). They're a solid
investment in time proven technology. You can't build anything
substantial with papyrus. There's only one thing it's good for and
that's not writing on - but it does come on a roll.


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Re: .Xresources not loading on start

2014-03-17 Thread Anubhav Yadav
> The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original
> .Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :)

That;s because I want my .Xresources to work, I had made colorscheme
changes to it!
Here is the complete .Xresources that I am trying to use
http://paste.debian.net/88298/

The only thing that works for me is "xrdb -load .Xresources" and "xrdb
.Xresources"

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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES
On Tue 18 Mar 2014 at 08:52:14 +1100, Myceneaen Magic wrote:

> On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> > On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > 
> >> The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
> > 
> > Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why
> > anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our
> > comprehension. 
> > 
> > We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area
> > of the Middle East.
> > 
> > Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients
> > who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any
> > time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is
> > suitable for long term storagei.
> > 
> > We have scribes who rarely mistake 1s for 0s or vice versa. Employees
> > who do are weeded out by our Quality Control Section and transferred to
> > our sister company, Pyramid Enterprises PLC.
> > 
> > Security of your data is of paramount importance to us; there is no
> > compromise in this area of our operations. Even shepherd boys and goats
> > are actively dissuaded from entering within a 10 km radius of our
> > operations.
> > 
> > Our distinguised clients Nefertiti, Isaiah and Tutankhamun have many,
> > many good things to say about our services. Unfortunately, they are
> > offline at present so are unable to answer your queries.
> > 
> > Forget the Cloud - choose the Cave. You know it makes sense.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Yet another desperate attempt by a failing company to capitalize on this
> list's readership by pushing unproven technology.
> A passing fad - what next? Asterix trying to sell bolders as portable?
> 
> Get with it - tablets are the only way to go.
> Always have been been, always will be.
> 
> Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform
> 
> 
> -- 
> Clay - it's here to stay and it's goat-proof!


It's always the same; some attitudes never change. Introduce the most
exciting invention since that of the abacus (thank you Jobs of Memphis)
and some Stone Age Old Worlder chips in with a plea to continue the
depletion of one of the Earth's non-renewable resources.

Ever tried transporting the Epic of Gilgamesh from Babylon to Thebes in
tablet form? Let me tell you, it's horrendous.

Can't remember the number of donkeys and carts it took but the feed bill
was astonomical. As for customs at the borders, they though we were
importing buiding materials so the bribes mounted up. And don't have an
accident; sticking the broken pieces back together is no fun, even after
the pain in your toes has worn off.

Papyrus: just a few sheets which can be rolled up and put in your
pocket. Reading it while riding on the back of a camel is also a
pleasant way of passing the time on a long journey.

Someone who sold blank tablets once said 640 is enough for anyone. We
envisage information as unlimited and we're expanding, with branches
opened recently in Athens and Rome. Tomorrow the world!


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Re: Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014, John Magolske wrote:
> * Don Armstrong  [140317 14:01]:
> > Does anything match /bin/mount*; ?
> 
> Yes:
> 
> % ls -l /bin/mount*
> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 92844 Feb 26  2012 /bin/mount
> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 88656 Jan 25 11:34 /bin/mount.orig
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5496 Feb 13 03:15 /bin/mountpoint
> 
> > Do you have a diversion in place (dpkg-divert --list)?
> 
> Apparently so, was not aware of this. I installed Debian Sid on this
> machine a while back using grml2hd from the grml live cd (when that
> was an option)...maybe some of this is left over from that?

Yes. loop-aes-utils has diverted mount, and a bunch of other things.
If you remove loop-aes-utils and grml-etc-core you should be OK.
 
> % dpkg-divert --list
> 
> diversion of /bin/mount to /bin/mount.orig by loop-aes-utils

[...]

> diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/mount.8.gz to 
> /usr/share/man/man8/mount-orig.8.gz by loop-aes-utils

[...]

> and the output from `% dpkg-divert --list` looks the same.

Right; that won't remove a divert.
 
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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Myceneaen Magic
On 18/03/14 06:41, PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES wrote:
> On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> 
>> The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
> 
> Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why
> anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our
> comprehension. 
> 
> We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area
> of the Middle East.
> 
> Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients
> who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any
> time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is
> suitable for long term storagei.
> 
> We have scribes who rarely mistake 1s for 0s or vice versa. Employees
> who do are weeded out by our Quality Control Section and transferred to
> our sister company, Pyramid Enterprises PLC.
> 
> Security of your data is of paramount importance to us; there is no
> compromise in this area of our operations. Even shepherd boys and goats
> are actively dissuaded from entering within a 10 km radius of our
> operations.
> 
> Our distinguised clients Nefertiti, Isaiah and Tutankhamun have many,
> many good things to say about our services. Unfortunately, they are
> offline at present so are unable to answer your queries.
> 
> Forget the Cloud - choose the Cave. You know it makes sense.
> 
> 

Yet another desperate attempt by a failing company to capitalize on this
list's readership by pushing unproven technology.
A passing fad - what next? Asterix trying to sell bolders as portable?

Get with it - tablets are the only way to go.
Always have been been, always will be.

Yours without wax, Proto Cuneiform


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Re: Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread John Magolske
* Don Armstrong  [140317 14:01]:
> On Mon, 17 Mar 2014, John Magolske wrote:
> > % which mount
> > /bin/mount
> > 
> > % /bin/mount -V
> > mount from util-linux-ng 2.16.2 (with libblkid and selinux support)
> 
> Does anything match /bin/mount*; ?

Yes:

% ls -l /bin/mount*
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 92844 Feb 26  2012 /bin/mount
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 88656 Jan 25 11:34 /bin/mount.orig
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  5496 Feb 13 03:15 /bin/mountpoint

> Do you have a diversion in place (dpkg-divert --list)?

Apparently so, was not aware of this. I installed Debian Sid on this
machine a while back using grml2hd from the grml live cd (when that
was an option)...maybe some of this is left over from that?

% dpkg-divert --list

diversion of /bin/mount to /bin/mount.orig by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /usr/bin/json_pp to /usr/bin/json_pp.bundled by libjson-pp-perl
diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/losetup.8.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man8/losetup-orig.8.gz by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /usr/share/vim/vim74/doc/tags to 
/usr/share/vim/vim74/doc/tags.vim-tiny by vim-runtime
diversion of /usr/bin/perldoc to /usr/bin/perldoc.stub by perl-doc
diversion of /etc/zsh/zshenv to /etc/zsh/zshenv.original by grml-etc-core
diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/swapon.8.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man8/swapon-orig.8.gz by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /usr/bin/svnlook to /usr/bin/svnlook.orig by svn-ssh-wrappers
diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/update-icon-caches.8.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man8/update-icon-caches.gtk2.8.gz by libgtk-3-bin
diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/sh.1.gz to /usr/share/man/man1/sh.distrib.1.gz 
by dash
diversion of /usr/bin/svnserve to /usr/bin/svnserve.orig by svn-ssh-wrappers
diversion of /usr/bin/dh_gstscancodecs to /usr/bin/dh_gstscancodecs-gst0.10 by 
libgstreamer1.0-dev
diversion of /sbin/swapon to /sbin/swapon.orig by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /etc/zsh/zlogin to /etc/zsh/zlogin.original by grml-etc-core
diversion of /sbin/losetup to /sbin/losetup.orig by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /etc/zsh/zprofile to /etc/zsh/zprofile.original by grml-etc-core
diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/mount.8.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man8/mount-orig.8.gz by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/dh_gstscancodecs.1.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man1/dh_gstscancodecs.1.gz-gst0.10 by libgstreamer1.0-dev
diversion of /usr/share/man/man5/fstab.5.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man5/fstab-orig.5.gz by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /usr/share/vim/vim74/doc/help.txt to 
/usr/share/vim/vim74/doc/help.txt.vim-tiny by vim-runtime
diversion of /bin/umount to /bin/umount.orig by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /etc/zsh/zshrc to /etc/zsh/zshrc.original by grml-etc-core
diversion of /etc/tmux.conf to /etc/tmux.conf.original by grml-etc-core
diversion of /etc/init.d/ssh to /etc/init.d/ssh.original by grml-etc
diversion of /etc/zsh/zlogout to /etc/zsh/zlogout.original by grml-etc-core
diversion of /usr/share/dict/words to 
/usr/share/dict/words.pre-dictionaries-common by dictionaries-common
diversion of /usr/share/man/man1/json_pp.1.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man1/json_pp.1.bundled.gz by libjson-pp-perl
diversion of /bin/sh to /bin/sh.distrib by dash
diversion of /usr/bin/svnadmin to /usr/bin/svnadmin.orig by svn-ssh-wrappers
diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/swapoff.8.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man8/swapoff-orig.8.gz by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /usr/share/man/man8/umount.8.gz to 
/usr/share/man/man8/umount-orig.8.gz by loop-aes-utils
diversion of /etc/vim/vimrc to /etc/vim/vimrc.original by grml-etc-core
diversion of /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches to /usr/sbin/update-icon-caches.gtk2 
by libgtk-3-bin

> Does apt-get --reinstall install util-linux; fix this up?

Just ran that command, still getting:

% mount -V
mount from util-linux-ng 2.16.2 (with libblkid and selinux support)

and the output from `% dpkg-divert --list` looks the same.

> (cd /; md5sum --check /var/lib/dpkg/info/util-linux.md5sums)|grep -v OK;

% (cd /; md5sum --check /var/lib/dpkg/info/util-linux.md5sums)|grep -v OK;
md5sum: usr/share/man/ru/man1/ddate.1.gz: No such file or directory
md5sum: usr/share/man/ru/man1/ddate.1.gz: FAILED open or read
WARNING: 1 listed file could not be read


* César Augusto Ramírez Franco  [140317 14:01]:
> What does `apt-cache policy util-linux-ng` shows?

% apt-cache policy util-linux-ng
N: Unable to locate package util-linux-ng


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Re: DPMS Xset Blank Screen

2014-03-17 Thread Michael Post
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Am 14.03.14 12:52, schrieb Dmitrii Kashin:> Michael Post >
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you`re my man.
Thanks a lot for this hint.

Have a nice day,

Michael



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Re: Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014, John Magolske wrote:
> About what I'd expect:
> 
> % which mount
> /bin/mount
> 
> % /bin/mount -V
> mount from util-linux-ng 2.16.2 (with libblkid and selinux support)

Does anything match /bin/mount*; ?

Do you have a diversion in place (dpkg-divert --list)?

Does apt-get --reinstall install util-linux; fix this up?

Does 

(cd /; md5sum --check /var/lib/dpkg/info/util-linux.md5sums)|grep -v OK;

output anything?

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Re: Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread César Augusto Ramírez Franco
I get this on Jessie:

$ mount -V
mount from util-linux 2.20.1 (with libblkid and selinux support)

Please note I'm getting mount from util-linux and you're getting it from
util-linux-ng

What does `apt-cache policy util-linux-ng` shows?


2014-03-17 13:24 GMT-05:00 John Magolske :

> * Brian  [140317 11:22]:
> > Does the output of 'which mount' look sensible to you?
>
> About what I'd expect:
>
> % which mount
> /bin/mount
>
> % /bin/mount -V
> mount from util-linux-ng 2.16.2 (with libblkid and selinux support)
>
>
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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread PAPYRUS TECHNOLOGIES
On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 17:51:15 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:

> The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.

Well observered, Sir. The same might be said for CDs and DVDs. Why
anyone should entrust their data to such volatile media is beyond our
comprehension. 

We are an very old, established company who operate in the Dead Sea area
of the Middle East.

Our product has a proven record and is used by many discerning clients
who require the data they have entrusted to us to be accessible at any
time. We offer a 3000 year guarantee that the material we use is
suitable for long term storagei.

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Re: LVM preseed install fails with partition error

2014-03-17 Thread Sandeep Raman
On Mar 17, 2014 11:04 PM, "Brian"  wrote:
>
> On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 16:00:34 +0530, Sandeep Raman wrote:
>
> > thread. This is my complete preseed file for reference -
> > http://paste.debian.net/88147/
>
> It can be referred to up to 2014-06-15 11:30:04. After that it expires.
>
> I'll note that the mail you sent was about 10096 in size. The file at
> paste.debian.net is about a third the size of the mail, 3800, and easily
> compressed to 1200, As an attachment sent to the List it would surely be
> acceptable. It would also not expire and serve a use for future readers.

Point taken, attached preseed to the email.
>
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Re: Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread John Magolske
* Brian  [140317 11:22]:
> Does the output of 'which mount' look sensible to you?

About what I'd expect:

% which mount
/bin/mount

% /bin/mount -V
mount from util-linux-ng 2.16.2 (with libblkid and selinux support)


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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 19:11 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 18:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 17:51 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > > CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
> > > are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW.  CDs will last a long time,
> > > as they have a layer of physically dented metal between slabs of
> > > plastic.  But you can't press one yourself.  For anecdotes, I have some
> > > pushing 30 years that play but I don't have MD5 checksums or anything to
> > > verify them.
> > > 
> > > I've had some CD R last only a few years, starting from the date of
> > > manufacture not date of burn.  The claim is 5 to 10 years, from date of
> > > manufacture, but I have yet to see a date on the packages.  CD R uses a
> > > layer of dye which is then burned opaque.  Those with higher quality
> > > dyes should last longer before data loss begins but the dyes oxidize
> > > over time and the rate depends on storage conditions and atmosphere.
> > > About the only advantage is that they cannot be re-written so, while
> > > they last, can serve as proof or evidence if a proper chain of custody
> > > is also maintained.
> > > 
> > > CD RW is more complex having a phase-changing layer but max out at a
> > > theoretical 25 years under ideal storage and handling conditions,
> > > starting from quality manufacturing.
> > > 
> > > See:
> > >   http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub121/sec4.html
> > > 
> > > The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
> > 
> > I made the best experiences with DVD-RAM. _When_ ever it was possible to
> > write to a DVD-RAM the data was safe, _but_ many DVD-RAMs were broken, I
> > payed a lot of money and the new once were already unusable, very often
> > neither Linux nor Windows was able to write data to DVD-RAM or it needed
> > hours just to write 1 KiB. And assumed you never ever will experience
> > writing issues, when using DVD-RAM, what are 4.7 GB good for? How often
> > will you split your tar files?
> 
> PS:
> 
> Once the data is written, everything is fine. Reading DVD-RAM isn't an
> issue.
> 
> DVD-RAM is opto-magnetical. The magnetical layer only could be changed,
> after optical heat allows this. DVD-RAM can be used the way a HDD is
> used, no burning software is needed.

Yes, it's just a rough explanation ;), not a perfect one ;).



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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 18:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 17:51 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
> > are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW.  CDs will last a long time,
> > as they have a layer of physically dented metal between slabs of
> > plastic.  But you can't press one yourself.  For anecdotes, I have some
> > pushing 30 years that play but I don't have MD5 checksums or anything to
> > verify them.
> > 
> > I've had some CD R last only a few years, starting from the date of
> > manufacture not date of burn.  The claim is 5 to 10 years, from date of
> > manufacture, but I have yet to see a date on the packages.  CD R uses a
> > layer of dye which is then burned opaque.  Those with higher quality
> > dyes should last longer before data loss begins but the dyes oxidize
> > over time and the rate depends on storage conditions and atmosphere.
> > About the only advantage is that they cannot be re-written so, while
> > they last, can serve as proof or evidence if a proper chain of custody
> > is also maintained.
> > 
> > CD RW is more complex having a phase-changing layer but max out at a
> > theoretical 25 years under ideal storage and handling conditions,
> > starting from quality manufacturing.
> > 
> > See:
> > http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub121/sec4.html
> > 
> > The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.
> 
> I made the best experiences with DVD-RAM. _When_ ever it was possible to
> write to a DVD-RAM the data was safe, _but_ many DVD-RAMs were broken, I
> payed a lot of money and the new once were already unusable, very often
> neither Linux nor Windows was able to write data to DVD-RAM or it needed
> hours just to write 1 KiB. And assumed you never ever will experience
> writing issues, when using DVD-RAM, what are 4.7 GB good for? How often
> will you split your tar files?

PS:

Once the data is written, everything is fine. Reading DVD-RAM isn't an
issue.

DVD-RAM is opto-magnetical. The magnetical layer only could be changed,
after optical heat allows this. DVD-RAM can be used the way a HDD is
used, no burning software is needed.


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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 17:51 +0200, Lars Noodén wrote:
> CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
> are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW.  CDs will last a long time,
> as they have a layer of physically dented metal between slabs of
> plastic.  But you can't press one yourself.  For anecdotes, I have some
> pushing 30 years that play but I don't have MD5 checksums or anything to
> verify them.
> 
> I've had some CD R last only a few years, starting from the date of
> manufacture not date of burn.  The claim is 5 to 10 years, from date of
> manufacture, but I have yet to see a date on the packages.  CD R uses a
> layer of dye which is then burned opaque.  Those with higher quality
> dyes should last longer before data loss begins but the dyes oxidize
> over time and the rate depends on storage conditions and atmosphere.
> About the only advantage is that they cannot be re-written so, while
> they last, can serve as proof or evidence if a proper chain of custody
> is also maintained.
> 
> CD RW is more complex having a phase-changing layer but max out at a
> theoretical 25 years under ideal storage and handling conditions,
> starting from quality manufacturing.
> 
> See:
>   http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub121/sec4.html
> 
> The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.

I made the best experiences with DVD-RAM. _When_ ever it was possible to
write to a DVD-RAM the data was safe, _but_ many DVD-RAMs were broken, I
payed a lot of money and the new once were already unusable, very often
neither Linux nor Windows was able to write data to DVD-RAM or it needed
hours just to write 1 KiB. And assumed you never ever will experience
writing issues, when using DVD-RAM, what are 4.7 GB good for? How often
will you split your tar files?


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Re: LVM preseed install fails with partition error

2014-03-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 16:00:34 +0530, Sandeep Raman wrote:

> thread. This is my complete preseed file for reference -
> http://paste.debian.net/88147/

It can be referred to up to 2014-06-15 11:30:04. After that it expires.

I'll note that the mail you sent was about 10096 in size. The file at
paste.debian.net is about a third the size of the mail, 3800, and easily
compressed to 1200, As an attachment sent to the List it would surely be
acceptable. It would also not expire and serve a use for future readers.


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Using LTSP on a Debian server with Raspberry PI thin clients

2014-03-17 Thread James Allsopp
Hi,
To simplify things I was thinking about running a couple of RPI thin
clients off my debian server? I would be using either powerline networking
or wireless. I think I'll need to install a special bootloader on the RPI
as they can't boot using PXE.

I was wondering if anyone had actually implemented a system like this, and
if it was responsive enough to be useful? Are there any other
considerations I might need to think about?

All the best,
James


Re: Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 08:23:05 -0700, John Magolske wrote:

> ...so I'm wondering what that 2.16.2 is referring to. Thoughts?

Does the output of 'which mount' look sensible to you?


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Re: starting apache with -X

2014-03-17 Thread berenger . morel

Le 11.03.2014 13:25, Reco a écrit :

Hi.

On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 12:41:03PM +0100,
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Hello.

I am trying to debug a cgi script run through apache, and have found
some documents which says that running apache with -X allows to not
run apache as a daemon [1].
But, I do not really understand how to do this: I start it with
commands like this one: "#service apache2 start/stop/restart/...". I
tried to go inside /etc/rc2.d/S01apache2 ( yes, I know, it's only a
link to real script ) but...
410 lines of shell script are not that easy to understand when you
are not accustomed to.

1: https://httpd.apache.org/dev/debugging.html
I know it's about debugging apache, and not CGIs, but I hope to be
able to find how to break with gdb when apache starts my script
after this.


You don't need to modify apache start scripts for this. Just do this
instead:

service apache2 stop

/usr/sbin/apache2 -X

Reco


Well, it was not exactly this procedure ( I did not replied in time, I 
had other things to do in the meantime ).


In fact, to run apache with -X, I had to:
_ edit /etc/apache2/envvars to uncomment the line "#export 
APACHE_ARGUMENTS=''" and insert -X into the '

_ run, as root, apache with "#apache2ctl start"

Simply running "/usr/sbin/apache2 -X" will not work, because the 
envvars file is like a shell environment, which fills some variables 
that you need in order to initialize correctly apache's configuration.
This file is used by apache2ctl, which is, AFAIK, started by apache2 
when you use #services apache2 start".


And this is not easy to find on the web, I guess I should write it in 
some wiki dedicated to Debian.



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Re: .Xresources not loading on start

2014-03-17 Thread Brian
On Mon 17 Mar 2014 at 04:22:12 +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:

> Running startx logged me in to xfce, I opened up a xterm and the
> background was red.

Fine; the recommended line works.

> Next I enabled lightdm: #update-rc.d lightdm enable
> Rebooted and from lightdm logged in to i3.
> Opened up an xterm and the background was red.

We seem to be able to rule out lightdm as the problem.

> Now I used my original .Xresources and reboot. Again same error!
> 'xrdb -merge .Xresources' and 'xrdb -overide .Xresources' will not work

The '-query' option to xrdb is useful. Interesting you used your original
.Xresources rather than one modified in the light of your experience. :)

Try
   xterm*foreground:#fd971f
   xterm*background:#82b414


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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Lars Noodén
On 03/17/2014 05:06 PM, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
...
> So far, I haven't had readability problems on old CDs and DVDs.
> Blu-Rays seem a little squirrelly over time, but CDs and DVDs seem
> readable for many years.
...
> 3) Magnetic disks can be (accidentally) erased. Not so with write-once
>optical media. 
...

CDs and DVDs are physically different media than CD R and DVD R which
are in turn different from CD RW and DVD RW.  CDs will last a long time,
as they have a layer of physically dented metal between slabs of
plastic.  But you can't press one yourself.  For anecdotes, I have some
pushing 30 years that play but I don't have MD5 checksums or anything to
verify them.

I've had some CD R last only a few years, starting from the date of
manufacture not date of burn.  The claim is 5 to 10 years, from date of
manufacture, but I have yet to see a date on the packages.  CD R uses a
layer of dye which is then burned opaque.  Those with higher quality
dyes should last longer before data loss begins but the dyes oxidize
over time and the rate depends on storage conditions and atmosphere.
About the only advantage is that they cannot be re-written so, while
they last, can serve as proof or evidence if a proper chain of custody
is also maintained.

CD RW is more complex having a phase-changing layer but max out at a
theoretical 25 years under ideal storage and handling conditions,
starting from quality manufacturing.

See:
http://www.clir.org/pubs/reports/pub121/sec4.html

The longevity of flash is still a big unknown.

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Gary Dale

On 16/03/14 05:54 PM, Mr Queue wrote:

Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?

https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp

^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose
I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be doing
currently.

FWIW, I'm mostly concerned with cloning my current backups of family
photos to different media for peace of mind. I already have a pair
of backup servers in different physical locations but want to add some
DVD's into the mix. Those are hard to rm. ;)


I've been using BD-RE for years to make backups and BD-R for archives. 
It works reasonably well providing that you're not backing up more than 
25G. BD-REs do develop problems over time so you need to replace them 
when they wear out.


I thought that they were supposed to have defect-tracking like HDs but 
it doesn't seem to work. When a disc develops a bad sector, it still 
seems to get written to. If you rm the file and cp it back, the same 
place shows up as bad when you cmp the original and backup of the file. 
I highly recommend doing the cmp after a backup because I have seen a 
lot of bad copies.


I use a retry loop to ensure that the backup matches the original. 
However, because the bad sector doesn't seem to get marked, you need to 
have enough free space on the BD-RE to make a second copy of the largest 
file, again limiting the amount you can back up.



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Version of mount shows up as 2.16.2 ...should it be 2.20.1 ?

2014-03-17 Thread John Magolske
Checking the version of mount on my (up-to-date Sid) machine with -V :

% mount -V
mount from util-linux-ng 2.16.2 (with libblkid and selinux support)

I checked this, as when trying to compile efl there was this complaint:

configure: error: pkg-config missing mount >= 2.18.0

Then, on the enlightenment-users list, someone on Jessie sees this:

~$ mount -V
mount from util-linux 2.20.1 (with libblkid and selinux support)

http://sourceforge.net/p/enlightenment/mailman/message/32106697/

Running `apt-show versions` against mount and util-linux both show
2.20.1 :

% apt-show-versions -a -v mount
Parsing /var/lib/dpkg/status... completed.
mount:i386 2.20.1-5.6 install ok installed
No stable version
mount:i386 2.20.1-5.6 sid cdn.debian.net
mount:i386/sid 2.20.1-5.6 uptodate

% apt-show-versions -a -v util-linux
Parsing /var/lib/dpkg/status... completed.
util-linux:i386 2.20.1-5.6 install ok installed
No stable version
util-linux:i386 2.20.1-5.6 sid cdn.debian.net
util-linux:i386/sid 2.20.1-5.6 uptodate

...so I'm wondering what that 2.16.2 is referring to. Thoughts?

Regards,

John

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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:57:07 +0100
an...@cyberh0me.net wrote:

> >> On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 16:54 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> >> > I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical
> >> > locations
> >> 
> >> That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.
> > 
> > Because?
> > 
> 
> for example lifetime of the media itself, problems to read on
> different kind of dvd drives and some other kind of Problems

Thanks Andre.

So far, I haven't had readability problems on old CDs and DVDs.
Blu-Rays seem a little squirrelly over time, but CDs and DVDs seem
readable for many years.

> 
> there are so many reasons why enterprise companys never use dvd's as 
> storage medium for their data

I think one of the big reasons enterprise backups avoid optical media
is shear size. With DVD max 4.7GB and Blu-Ray max 25GB, a bare metal
backup could involve a lot of time consuming media switching.

But look at the alternatives. Tape has *always* been iffy on
restorability, especially consumer grade tape devices. 

Backing up to a 2TB, 2.5" Western Digital external disk, about $120.00
at Costco, is a real possibility, but:

1) If you're worried about long time readability, you don't want this,
   because you're always going to be tempted to cannibalize old backups
   to make room for new ones, rather than spending another $120.00.

2) Magnetic disks tend to stop working if not spun up at regular
   intervals.

3) Magnetic disks can be (accidentally) erased. Not so with write-once
   optical media.

4) Magnetic disks are very subject to electric destruction and physical
   shock.

Then there's "cloud backup". This would theoretically be great if you
could trust the commercial entity to:

1) Carefully keep you backups for later use
2) Protect your backups from being viewed by others.

In practice, the only way I'd ever trust a cloud backup entity is if I
had alternative copies (which I would), and the backup I submitted to
them was GPG protected with maximum key size.

Also, if you're like me and have upload speeds of less than 1Mbit, it's
going to take forever to back up. And once again, for privacy reasons,
there's no way I'd let the backup system iteratively access the files
on my computer.

> however it depends how long you try to have this backup available and
> if you want to be sure you have a working backup

Exactly. In practice, I do these three things:

* Maintain my own, rsync driven, incremental backup server, as described
  at http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/200609/200609.htm

* Back up from the backup server to Blu-Ray

* Back up from the backup server to Western Digital 2.5" drives


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Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:58:01PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote:

> Last question is there a way to set this option by default or should i just
> set an alias?

That's all covered in the apt man pages.

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Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Klaus
On 17/03/14 13:58, Oliver Kranz wrote:
> 2014-03-17 14:47 GMT+01:00 Tom Furie  mention the --no-install-recommends option to apt-get if you want to 
> not install anything that the package recommends.
> 
> 
> Well i think thats what i was searching for. Last question is there
> a way to set this option by default or should i just set an alias?
> 
man apt-get

OPTIONS
All command line options may be set using the configuration file, the
descriptions indicate the configuration option to set. For boolean
options you can override the config file by using something like
-f-,--no-f, -f=no or several other variations.

--no-install-recommends
Do not consider recommended packages as a dependency for installing.
Configuration Item: APT::Install-Recommends.

man apt.conf shows the syntax and where to put the config item.


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Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread César Augusto Ramírez Franco
Why do you need to skip texlive packages?

If you have installed "vanilla" TeX Live and you need to integrate it with
apt you could use the equivs package, here's a little how-to:

http://www.tug.org/texlive/debian.html

2014-03-17 8:58 GMT-05:00 Oliver Kranz :

> 2014-03-17 14:47 GMT+01:00 Tom Furie :
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 01:43:59PM +, Tom Furie wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote:
>>
>> > > Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages?
>>
>> > Since texstudio is a LaTeX editor it makes sense that it would pull in
>>
>> I forgot to mention the --no-install-recommends option to apt-get if you
>> want to not install anything that the package recommends.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tom
>>
>>
> Well i think thats what i was searching for.
> Last question is there a way to set this option by default or should i
> just set an alias?
>
>


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Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Oliver Kranz
2014-03-17 14:47 GMT+01:00 Tom Furie :

> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 01:43:59PM +, Tom Furie wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote:
>
> > > Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages?
>
> > Since texstudio is a LaTeX editor it makes sense that it would pull in
>
> I forgot to mention the --no-install-recommends option to apt-get if you
> want to not install anything that the package recommends.
>
> Cheers,
> Tom
>
>
Well i think thats what i was searching for.
Last question is there a way to set this option by default or should i just
set an alias?


Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 01:43:59PM +, Tom Furie wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote:

> > Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages?

> Since texstudio is a LaTeX editor it makes sense that it would pull in

I forgot to mention the --no-install-recommends option to apt-get if you
want to not install anything that the package recommends.

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Re: [Resolved] Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-17 Thread Richard Owlett

Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Sb, 15 mar 14, 09:08:52, Richard Owlett wrote:


Sequence was:
   Do full install install of Squeeze to sda1. Only non-default was
  size of install partition.


Well, setting a root password is quite a "weak" default. If you just
press enter (leaving the password blank) you get the sudo setup ;)



But for my tests "reproducibility" outranks "strength".
I purchased a used laptop to be dedicated to these experiments.
It intentionally has no network connectivity.
There is nothing on the machine that is not on the install DVD's.

This serves two purposes:
  1. learn the ins and outs of Debian by experiment - suits my 
learning style

  2. choose a user experience that suits my quirks


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Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Tom Furie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote:

> Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages?

Since texstudio is a LaTeX editor it makes sense that it would pull in
latex packages. The package doesn't 'depend' on latex though, it's only
a 'recommends' relationship, so you can install just texstudio without
latex. The easiest way to do this is using aptitude's visual mode, just
deselect the latex packages in the preview screen.

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Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote:
> 
> Sorry didnt got this output to english. Any advice how to change language
> temporary (for one terminal only).

Use the LANG environment variable:

$ LANG=C 

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Re: textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 02:21:52PM +0100, Oliver Kranz wrote:
>Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages? 

"aptitude why latex" (or whichever package) should tell you why the
package is installed.

> 
>oliver@crunchbang:~$ sudo apt-get install texstudio
>Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
>Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.       
>Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig
>Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
[cut]
>Es müssen 275 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
>Nach dieser Operation werden 457 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
>Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n] 
>Sorry didnt got this output to english. Any advice how to change language
>temporary (for one terminal only).

"sudo LANG=C apt-get install ..." is the safest choice. You could do
"LANG=en", but AFAIK any language other than C could be a translation.
Also, it's a perfectly cromulent situation to only have the language
files for your particular locale installed (that is, you might not be
able to translate to english); C is always available, though.




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textstudio installs texlive in jessie

2014-03-17 Thread Oliver Kranz
Why does texstudio as editor need to install latex packages?

oliver@crunchbang:~$ sudo apt-get install texstudio
Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut.
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
  fonts-lmodern latex-beamer latex-xcolor libkpathsea6 libpoppler-qt4-4
  libptexenc1 libqt4-network libqt4-script libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml
  libqtdbus4 libruby1.9.1 libyaml-0-2 lmodern luatex pgf prosper ps2eps ruby
  ruby1.9.1 tcl8.6 tex-common texlive-base texlive-binaries
  texlive-extra-utils texlive-font-utils texlive-generic-recommended
  texlive-latex-base texlive-latex-base-doc texlive-latex-recommended
  texlive-latex-recommended-doc texlive-luatex texlive-pstricks
  texlive-pstricks-doc tk8.6

--cut--

Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
  fonts-lmodern latex-beamer latex-xcolor libkpathsea6 libpoppler-qt4-4
  libptexenc1 libqt4-network libqt4-script libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml
  libqtdbus4 libruby1.9.1 libyaml-0-2 lmodern luatex pgf prosper ps2eps ruby
  ruby1.9.1 tcl8.6 tex-common texlive-base texlive-binaries
  texlive-extra-utils texlive-font-utils texlive-generic-recommended
  texlive-latex-base texlive-latex-base-doc texlive-latex-recommended
  texlive-latex-recommended-doc texlive-luatex texlive-pstricks
  texlive-pstricks-doc texstudio tk8.6
0 aktualisiert, 37 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 1 nicht aktualisiert.
Es müssen 275 MB an Archiven heruntergeladen werden.
Nach dieser Operation werden 457 MB Plattenplatz zusätzlich benutzt.
Möchten Sie fortfahren? [J/n]

Sorry didnt got this output to english. Any advice how to change language
temporary (for one terminal only).


Re: Bash completion doesn't prompt files in current directory

2014-03-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 01:54:00PM +0100, Simon Chen wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> After yesterday's upgrade, I find that bash's completion rules changed a
> bit. She doesn't prompt potent files any more if I don't type the first
> character in file's name (but still prompt all directories).  Say when I
> have a tmp/ and tmp.txt at pwd,
> $cat  then press tab brings only tmp/
> 
> I do want bash going back to old way. I'd like to ask you for how.
> My bash version is 4.3-2, bash-completion 1:2.1-2

Install the last known working version(s).

http://snapshot.debian.org/package/bash-completion/
http://snapshot.debian.org/package/bash/

If there is a bug you should report it, providing no one else has beat
you to it. Of course, If you are running Sid then all this *should* be
common knowledge.

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Bash completion doesn't prompt files in current directory

2014-03-17 Thread Simon Chen
Hi all,

After yesterday's upgrade, I find that bash's completion rules changed a
bit. She doesn't prompt potent files any more if I don't type the first
character in file's name (but still prompt all directories).  Say when I
have a tmp/ and tmp.txt at pwd,
$cat  then press tab brings only tmp/

Further she fails me when a file's name starts with a "(" or "[".
$cat \[ or $cat [ prompt nothing even as I have a [tmp].txt file. I have
not tested other special characters yet.

I do want bash going back to old way. I'd like to ask you for how.
My bash version is 4.3-2, bash-completion 1:2.1-2


Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 17/03/14 08:54, Mr Queue wrote:
> Anyone doing anything interesting to backup data to DVD's?
> 
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/dkopp
> 
> ^^ Looks interesting and overall it's a pretty simple task. Suppose
> I could even use tar and split but just curious what others may be doing
> currently.
> 
> FWIW, I'm mostly concerned with cloning my current backups of family
> photos to different media for peace of mind. I already have a pair
> of backup servers in different physical locations but want to add some
> DVD's into the mix. 
>

> Those are hard to rm. ;)

On-site backups are of limited value (but offer convenience).

DVD backups are ideal for off-site/secured backups in your use case.
Do you have a fireproof safe? Some security companies provide very cheap
24/7 access lockboxes.

> 
> 

dkopp works well, as does cedar-backup2 and backupninja. There are also
other open-source tools with similar functionality.

Contrary to one opinion in this thread, most of the "enterprise" (and
very large government departments) I've worked with *do* use DVDs for
backups to some degree. They're also often used by SMEs, with bank and
security lockboxes used to for secure offsite storage.
Tape and online backups (usually outsourced to storage companies) are
the first level of backups, but often DVDs are used as a second level of
data security. The advantages being that retrieving backups from DVDs
doesn't incur an additional service fee; they provide an added layer of
data security, and independence from business wide backup scheduling.

Belts are good, but for full pants security belt and suspenders is better.

As Ralf points out - modern optical storage media is not very reliable.
*If* you don't implement the same (ITIL?) practices you would/should
with magnetic media - that is, check it. You should also use archive
quality optical media for your backups for best results.

cdck, and qpxtool are useful for checking your optical media backups
before trusting them. dvdisaster is my tool of choice as it can add
additional levels of error correction.

As with any backup - it's of little value if kept onsite unless locked
in a fire-proof safe (though I've known "professionals" who kept backups
on the same machine they're backing up!). An additional consideration
with optical media backups is age deterioration, so storage conditions
and media design will determine backup rotation schedules.

Note: all the tools I mentioned are in the Debian repository and IMO are
as good, or better, than the commercial alternatives.

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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 11:25 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> So I have 2 USB connected disks of which 1 is allways offsite.

+1

While I have to admit that at the moment I only use one USB HDD and it's
disconnected, but in the same room as the PC, not really smart, I could
do better ;).



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RE: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hello Andre,

>>> > I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical 
>>> > locations
>>> 
>>> That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.
>> 
>> Because?
>> 
> 
> for example lifetime of the media itself, problems to read on different kind 
> of dvd drives and some other kind of Problems
> 
> there are so many reasons why enterprise companys never use dvd's as storage 
> medium for their data

Do not confuse backup witch "archive copy". I know most people do not make that 
difference but when people start talking about lifetime of the backup medium it 
is part of the discussion.

> however it depends how long you try to have this backup available and if you 
> want to be sure you have a working backup

Normally backups are made to recover from a disaster which is mean one will 
usually want to use a "recent copy" of the data. Sometimes a somewhat older 
copy is needed.
One we start talking about archive data were we need to look at data that is 
years old and may no longer be on the "current" storage medium then indeed the 
lifetime of the "backup medium" does become part of the discussion.

For me backup to DVD is 1) to slow and b) the medium is not large enough. I 
just want to dump "all my data" onto the backup. So I have 2 USB connected 
disks of which 1 is allways offsite.

Bonno Bloksma


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Re: providing a static IP/Netmas/Gateway + location of a preseed file at boot prompt.

2014-03-17 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 03/17/2014 11:55 AM, Sandeep Raman wrote:

Not sure though. Buw when it can be preseeded what is the purpose or
intent of having it to set from boot prompt?



Because when you boot from a bootable install media and you have no DHCP 
nor BootP server and you want to pressed from a network located preseed 
file, you have to manually setup an IP address in order to download the 
preseed file.



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Re: LVM preseed install fails with partition error

2014-03-17 Thread Sandeep Raman
On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Iain M Conochie wrote:

> Hi Sandeep
>
>   Can you perhaps try this for your preseed?
>
>
> d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
> d-i partman-auto/choose_recipe select root_swap
> d-i partman-auto/method string lvm
> d-i partman-auto/purge_lvm_from_device boolean true
> d-i partman-auto-lvm/guided_size string 100%
> d-i partman-auto-lvm/no_boot boolean true
> d-i partman/choose_partition select finish
>
> d-i partman/confirm boolean true
> d-i partman/confirm_nooverwrite boolean true
> d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm boolean true
> d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm_span boolean true
> d-i partman-partitioning/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
>
>
> d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string i3 :: \
> 153600 100 153600 ext4   \
> $defaultignore{ } \
> $primary{ }   \
> method{ lvm } \
> device{ /dev/sda }  \
> vg_name{ i3vg }\ .
>
>
>
> 12 10 12 ext4 \
> $defaultignore{ }
> $lvmok{ } lv_name{ root } \
> method{ format } format{ } \
> use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext4 } \
> mountpoint{ / } . \
>
>
> 25000 20 25000 linux-swap \
> $lvmok{ } lv_name{ swap_1 } \
> method{ swap } format{ } .
>
> Good luck
>
> Iain
>
>
> Hi Iain,

I removed all the partman related lines and created a new preseed file. It
works now on vm but has issue with baremetal for which i'll start a new
thread. This is my complete preseed file for reference -
http://paste.debian.net/88147/

Cheers,
Sandeep.


Re: providing a static IP/Netmas/Gateway + location of a preseed file at boot prompt.

2014-03-17 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 17/03/14 18:48, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I would like to install my Debian machines with the Pressed D-I feature.
> 
> At this moment, I dont have a decent DHCP/BootP server yet, and waiting
> for this to be achieved, I want to manually provide the IP address at
> the boot prompt.
> 
> I already use it on others distributions install, but I miss the right
> syntax on Debian.
> 
> What I want is to issue something similar to
> 
> [...] ip=x netmask= gateway=z
> preseed/url=http://host/preseed.cfg
> 
> 
> My guess, reading the documentation is I cant directly put some preseed
> parameters in the boot parameters.
> What I want would be:
> 
> [...] netcfg/get_ipaddress=92.168.1.42 \
>   netcfg/get_netmask=255.255.255.0 \
>   netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.1.1 \
>   preseed/url=http://host/preseed.cfg
> 
> 
> Am I right?
> 
> 


Sort of, note "auto, confirm_static, and disable_dhcp" (the disable dhcp
may not be needed). If the default keymap works use the skip option I've
suggested - otherwise replace it with the one you use. Domain is optional.

Note also that the backslash is not needed.

Essentially you need to supply all the answers to question up to and
including network configuration - then your preseed file will supply the
rest.

auto=true priority=critical locale=$YourCountry.UTF-8 keymap=skip-config
netcfg/disable_dhcp=true netcfg/confirm_static=true
netcfg/get_ipaddress=192.168.0.56 netcfg/get_netmask=255.255.255.0
netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.0.6 netcfg/get_nameservers=8.8.8.8 8.8.8.4
modules=usb-storage hostname=preseed domain=dev auto
url=192.168.0.2/preseed.cfg


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Re: Backup's to DVD

2014-03-17 Thread andre

On Sun, 2014-03-16 at 16:54 -0500, Mr Queue wrote:
> I already have a pair of backup servers in different physical
> locations

That's good. DVDs IMHO are useless as serious backup medias.


Because?



for example lifetime of the media itself, problems to read on different 
kind of dvd drives and some other kind of Problems


there are so many reasons why enterprise companys never use dvd's as 
storage medium for their data


however it depends how long you try to have this backup available and if 
you want to be sure you have a working backup



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Re: When fogetting assigned login name rather than password

2014-03-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 16 March 2014 22:42:17 Brian wrote:
> On Sun 16 Mar 2014 at 18:50:22 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Sunday 16 March 2014 17:52:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > When you boot in Recovery mode you get a
> > > root shell without supplying any password.
> >
> > Is Recovery mode not the same as single user?
>
> It is.
> I have always been
>
> > asked for the root password to log in to single user in Debian.
>
> You didn't set up a system which was without root password. But if
> you did what Andrei describes is what happens.

Ah!  Thanks.  I knew that there were more reasons why a root password 
is essential. ;-) 

Lisi


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Re: providing a static IP/Netmas/Gateway + location of a preseed file at boot prompt.

2014-03-17 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:48:19AM +0300, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I would like to install my Debian machines with the Pressed D-I feature.
> 
> At this moment, I dont have a decent DHCP/BootP server yet, and
> waiting for this to be achieved, I want to manually provide the IP
> address at the boot prompt.
> 

Use the expert option in the installer.

The installer asks you how to set up your network. 

It also prompts for the location of a preseed file.

Those two prompts between them should give you enough to go forward.

Hope this helps, with all good wishes,

AndyC

amaca...@debian.org


> I already use it on others distributions install, but I miss the
> right syntax on Debian.
> 
> What I want is to issue something similar to
> 
> [...] ip=x netmask= gateway=z
> preseed/url=http://host/preseed.cfg
> 
> 
> My guess, reading the documentation is I cant directly put some
> preseed parameters in the boot parameters.
> What I want would be:
> 
> [...] netcfg/get_ipaddress=92.168.1.42 \
>   netcfg/get_netmask=255.255.255.0 \
>   netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.1.1 \
>   preseed/url=http://host/preseed.cfg
> 
> 
> Am I right?
> 
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Re: providing a static IP/Netmas/Gateway + location of a preseed file at boot prompt.

2014-03-17 Thread Sandeep Raman
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby <
mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org> wrote:

> On 03/17/2014 11:39 AM, Sandeep Raman wrote:
>
>> # Static network configuration.
>> #d-i netcfg/get_nameservers string 192.168.124.1
>> #d-i netcfg/get_ipaddress string 192.168.1.6
>> #d-i netcfg/get_netmask string 255.255.255.0
>> #d-i netcfg/get_gateway string 192.168.124.1
>> #d-i netcfg/confirm_static boolean true
>>
>
> Yes, but how do I setup the network from the boot prompt?
>
> Not sure though. Buw when it can be preseeded what is the purpose or
> intent of having it to set from boot prompt?
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Re: providing a static IP/Netmas/Gateway + location of a preseed file at boot prompt.

2014-03-17 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 03/17/2014 11:39 AM, Sandeep Raman wrote:

# Static network configuration.
#d-i netcfg/get_nameservers string 192.168.124.1
#d-i netcfg/get_ipaddress string 192.168.1.6
#d-i netcfg/get_netmask string 255.255.255.0
#d-i netcfg/get_gateway string 192.168.124.1
#d-i netcfg/confirm_static boolean true


Yes, but how do I setup the network from the boot prompt?


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Re: providing a static IP/Netmas/Gateway + location of a preseed file at boot prompt.

2014-03-17 Thread Sandeep Raman
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby <
mihamina.rakotomandi...@rktmb.org> wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> I would like to install my Debian machines with the Pressed D-I feature.
>
> At this moment, I dont have a decent DHCP/BootP server yet, and waiting
> for this to be achieved, I want to manually provide the IP address at the
> boot prompt.
>
> I already use it on others distributions install, but I miss the right
> syntax on Debian.
>
> What I want is to issue something similar to
>
> [...] ip=x netmask= gateway=z preseed/url=http://host/
> preseed.cfg
>
>
> My guess, reading the documentation is I cant directly put some preseed
> parameters in the boot parameters.
> What I want would be:
>
> [...] netcfg/get_ipaddress=92.168.1.42 \
>   netcfg/get_netmask=255.255.255.0 \
>   netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.1.1 \
>   preseed/url=http://host/preseed.cfg



> Adding the below section in your preseed.cfg should work, hth.
>

# Static network configuration.
#d-i netcfg/get_nameservers string 192.168.124.1
#d-i netcfg/get_ipaddress string 192.168.1.6
#d-i netcfg/get_netmask string 255.255.255.0
#d-i netcfg/get_gateway string 192.168.124.1
#d-i netcfg/confirm_static boolean true

Am I right?
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providing a static IP/Netmas/Gateway + location of a preseed file at boot prompt.

2014-03-17 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

Hi guys,

I would like to install my Debian machines with the Pressed D-I feature.

At this moment, I dont have a decent DHCP/BootP server yet, and waiting 
for this to be achieved, I want to manually provide the IP address at 
the boot prompt.


I already use it on others distributions install, but I miss the right 
syntax on Debian.


What I want is to issue something similar to

[...] ip=x netmask= gateway=z 
preseed/url=http://host/preseed.cfg



My guess, reading the documentation is I cant directly put some preseed 
parameters in the boot parameters.

What I want would be:

[...] netcfg/get_ipaddress=92.168.1.42 \
  netcfg/get_netmask=255.255.255.0 \
  netcfg/get_gateway=192.168.1.1 \
  preseed/url=http://host/preseed.cfg


Am I right?


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Re: libpq-fe.h where and how???

2014-03-17 Thread ken

On 03/16/2014 06:23 PM Brian wrote:

On Sun 16 Mar 2014 at 18:16:54 -0400, ken wrote:


Compiling some code off of git failed for lack of libpq-fe.h...  I'm
a little new to debian, so how do I locate and then download this
file?


   https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages

and then

   Search the contents of packages


Thanks.  Good to know.


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Re: libpq-fe.h where and how???

2014-03-17 Thread ken

On 03/16/2014 06:25 PM Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

* ken  [2014-03-16 18:16 -0400]:


Compiling some code off of git failed for lack of libpq-fe.h...  I'm a
little new to debian, so how do I locate and then download this file?


$ apt-file search libpq-fe.h
libpq-dev: /usr/include/postgresql/libpq-fe.h
postgres-xc-server-dev: /usr/include/postgres-xc/server/gtm/libpq-fe.h

Elimar



Very cool.  Thanks.


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Re: [help!] Can not use nvidia driver in debian sid

2014-03-17 Thread iijima yoshino
于 Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:54:05 -0400
"john s."  写道:

> On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:40:33 +0800
> iijima yoshino  wrote:
> 
> > Hey, there!
> > I have an old pc with a Nvidia GeForce 6600 card.
> > Firstly I installed Debian 7.4 and everything was O.K.
> > (nvidia-detect told me to install nvidia-glx and it worked.)
> > 
> > Then I changed a monitor and upgraded to Debian sid.
> > (old one is 1024x768, the new one is 1280x1024.)
> > And nvidia-detect tells that the nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver is
> > recommaned.
> > I reinstalled the driver and used nvidia-xconfig to
> > creat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> > 
> > Rebooting 
> > 
> > lsmod |grep nvidia, not found?
> > startx, no screen found, what?
> > After tried several times, like modifing xorg.conf, using xrandar,
> > whaterver.
> > I decided to use the nouveau driver, but the screen is only
> > 1024x768. So I'm lost now, why a monitor-change can make this
> > happens? Please help! And thanks for any helpful advices.
> 
> I suspect that the problem is bug #740097 I am also waiting for a
> solution. I expect that all will be fixed in due time. In the mean
> time use the earlier kernel 2.12. I have attached the information I
> received from the bug tracking system.
> 
> regards,
> 
> 
>   John 
> > 
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Thanks John

I think the situation is a little different.
Before I upgraded to sid, my pc runs well with the old monitor.
But when I changed to use the new monitor, it failed.


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