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Assistenza sanitaria a casa? UniSalute si prende cura dei tuoi cari
Assistenza sanitaria a casa? UniSalute si prende cura dei tuoi cari Se i tuoi genitori hanno bisogno di cure e riabilitazione a casa dopo un ricovero, come ti organizzi?
Re: [OT]: Instalar y Configurar PPTP Server en un container OpenVZ en PROXMOX.
El Sat, 21 Jun 2014 19:41:49 +0200, Ramses escribió: El 21/06/2014, a las 16:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:08:57 +0200, Ramses escribió: (...) ¿Sabe alguien si hay algún tipo de truco, o configuración especial, para montar un PPTP Server en un CT OpenVZ en PROXMOX ? (...) Tienes más guías/ayuda en Google: https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=engws_rd=ssl#complete=0hl=enq=pptp+server+proxmox Sí, los he visto, son las configuraciones habituales, o yo no veo diferencia... Alguna diferencia debe haber para que funcione en unos casos y en otros no. ¿No hay nadie por aquí que haya montado un PPTP Server sobre OpenVZ en un PROXMOX? Seguramente sí, y seguramente en la lista de Proxmox encuentres mucha más gente con esa configuración ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.22.14.44...@gmail.com
Re: Configuración de Script para Repositorio Debian
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 01:20:12PM -0400, Richard Díaz Rodríguez wrote: Hola amigos de la lista me gustaría saber como con figurar mi script que utiliza debmirror para actualizar mi repo pero no quiero que me actualice ni nada de juegos ni otros programas que no tengan que ver con servicios importantes para servidores ni nada de eso solo lo que me hace falta para un server DEBIAN pues el ancho de banda que tengo es poco y si no es así jamas podré tener actualizado mi repositorio espero su ayuda Con esas condiciones, *no* uses debmirror, usa mejor debpartial-mirror o cualquier otra cosa parecida. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140622212846.ga32...@cantor.unex.es
Arduino IDE on Debian 7 Wheezy
Hej! Jag har ett problem med att kommunicera med min Arduino Uno R3 under Debian 7 Wheezy. Jag har installerat Arudino-paketet (1.0.1 = gammalt, men det som finns i repon). När jag ansluter mn Arduino över USB, är menyvalet Tools Serial valbart, och jag ser min serieport där (typ /dev/ttyACMX, där X är en siffra typ 0, 1 eller 2). Men när jag laddar upp min kod så får jag ett felmeddelande Error opening serial port /dev/ttyACMX, och menyvalet Tools Serial blir grått (ej valbart). Om jag kör Arduino IDE som root fungerar det dock, vilket leder mig till att tro att det är ett behörighetsproblem. Jag har följt instrutionerna under http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/Debian och har Jag har librxtx2.2pre2-11. Jag har även tittat på http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/All och lagt till mig själv i gruppen dialout Instruktionerna under Now we have to check if you have permission on the lock folder: kan jag dock inte följa eftersom jag saknar /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/legacy.conf. Någon som har ett bra tips? Staffan . -- Staffan Melin Oscillator - ord bild form Kryssdäcket 1 SE-413 27 GÖTEBORG SVERIGE/SWEDEN www.oscillator.se staffan.me...@oscillator.se +46 (0)70-4876 250 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAERjL6c8bes6c-Dg+bxKR2YtCn6hwcrunuc-ja+seojd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Arduino IDE on Debian 7 Wheezy
On Sun, 2014-06-22 at 12:03 +0200, Staffan Melin (Oscillator) wrote: Jag har ett problem med att kommunicera med min Arduino Uno R3 under Debian 7 Wheezy. [..] När jag ansluter mn Arduino över USB, är menyvalet Tools Serial valbart, och jag ser min serieport där (typ /dev/ttyACMX, där X är en siffra typ 0, 1 eller 2). Men när jag laddar upp min kod så får jag ett felmeddelande Error opening serial port /dev/ttyACMX, och menyvalet Tools Serial blir grått (ej valbart). [..] Jag har även tittat på http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/All och lagt till mig själv i gruppen dialout Instruktionerna under Now we have to check if you have permission on the lock folder: kan jag dock inte följa eftersom jag saknar /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/legacy.conf. Dum fråga kanske men du har loggat ut och in igen efter att du lade till din användare i gruppen? Det kan även göra skillnad om du sänker hastigheten på serieporten i inställningarna. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Arduino IDE on Debian 7 Wheezy
Det verkar visst finnas lite olika bud: lock och uucp-grupperna: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/arduino#Error_opening_serial_port samt tty-gruppen: http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/Debian Du får nog undersöka /dev/ttyACMx och /dev/ttyUSBx -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Arduino IDE on Debian 7 Wheezy
2014-06-22 18:34 GMT+02:00 Sven Arvidsson s...@whiz.se: Det verkar visst finnas lite olika bud: Tack! Har dock redan läst dessa länkar... lock och uucp-grupperna: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/arduino#Error_opening_serial_port Har lagt till mig där. Lock-gruppen fanns inte från början, så den skapade jag. uucp-gruppen ska inte behövas, men jag har lagt till mig även där. samt tty-gruppen: http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/Debian Japp, har lagt till mig där redan. Du får nog undersöka /dev/ttyACMx och /dev/ttyUSBx Här var en bra guide för just Debian Wheezy som jag kontrollerade, men jdet fungerar ändå inte. Nu lutar det åt att jag tror det har med låsningen i /run/lock/-katalogen att göra...men vet inte riktigt hur jag ska gå vidare. Enligt http://playground.arduino.cc/Linux/All så this folder is created at boot time from the system, following the instruction from /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/legacy.conf so we need to change the default permission on the conf file to respect our need. men någon sådan legacy.conf fil har jag inte. Skumt (men tack för input)! Staffan -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 760BDD22 -- Staffan Melin Oscillator - ord bild form Kryssdäcket 1 SE-413 27 GÖTEBORG SVERIGE/SWEDEN www.oscillator.se staffan.me...@oscillator.se +46 (0)70-4876 250 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caerjl6cdnwm0grftyzsqpnpewrphb51q4vjuhrqwgmiu34k...@mail.gmail.com
lxc @docker e afins
olá pessoall, bom dia, tudo bem? no meu ambiente de trabalho tenho um openSuse instalado, versão 12 eu acho por ae sei la... para eu rodar os programas que existem nessa máquina, do meu trabalho, em outra m´quina linux por ex o debian 7 eu preciso usar o lxc é isso? tem haver com o @docker ou algo do tipo? utilizando essas libs não há trabalho algum a nao ser pouca configuração e cópia de arquivos? é isso mesmo? Desde já agradeço ... []s Att., Alex.
Assistenza sanitaria a casa? UniSalute si prende cura dei tuoi cari
Assistenza sanitaria a casa? UniSalute si prende cura dei tuoi cari Se i tuoi genitori hanno bisogno di cure e riabilitazione a casa dopo un ricovero, come ti organizzi?
Re: Strange no mail traffic........
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 00:50:49 +0200 B mentioned this: Re: Strange no mail traffic. Wondering if the Debian user server is down? Much more down under ;-) From my keyboard: Hello B, Very droll, thank you. Thank you to all who replied, so it was just a lull in posts, wow. Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but religiously follows the new. ...Henry David Thoreau *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140622164815.24690a47@taogypsy.wildlife
Question: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
Hello list, after changing to systemd some packages give me the following message: warning: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults It also looks like, these demons are no more started at boot. For example, eeepc-acpi-scripts gives such a message. When I use dpkg-reconfigure eeepc- acpi-scripts I get this message and everything is working well. But after next boot, it does not work any more - I have to to dpkg-reconfigure again. So the package is ok, I think. Can I configure something myself to avoid these things or is this a bug and the maintainer should be informed? Thanks for all feedback. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/13499504.SBBgSYKL6v@protheus7
Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?
On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote: The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away from both Plymouth and *dm. I hadn't heard of Plymouth. I just googled it and blanched. Thanks for the heads up, Steve! One more reason why I shall avoid *buntu. :-( Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406221101.10476.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Question: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
On 2014-06-22 11:36 +0200, Hans wrote: Hello list, after changing to systemd some packages give me the following message: warning: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults This message is harmless, the start and stop options were only meaningful with the static boot order without insserv that predates wheezy. It also looks like, these demons are no more started at boot. For example, eeepc-acpi-scripts gives such a message. When I use dpkg-reconfigure eeepc- acpi-scripts I get this message and everything is working well. But after next boot, it does not work any more - I have to to dpkg-reconfigure again. Do you have a symlink /etc/rcS.d/S??eeepc-acpi-scripts pointing to ../init.d/eeepc-acpi-scripts (the exact value of ?? varies from system to system)? Also, which init system do you use? Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87bntltd5j@turtle.gmx.de
Installation disc creator (Was: Resizing LVM issue)
On 06/15/2014 10:52 PM, Reco wrote: No, it seems to belong to main archive. $ apt-cache search apt on cd | grep ^apt apt - commandline package manager aptdaemon - transaction based package management service aptoncd - Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT Yep, aptoncd was the one that asked for more space in /tmp. Not anymore after resizing. I use that app mostly for updating the other machine that does not have broadband access (dial-up is there but too slow for updating). Btw, what app is good for making an image of the system, sort of full backup, and is it possible to use such an image to clone more than one comp later, i.e. to avoid installations from scratch? (I have two Debian machines here and another one with Ubuntu, and maybe would go moving that Ubuntu to Debian but don't like reinstalling all over again...) M. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53a6c0f6.3030...@eunet.rs
Re: Resizing LVM issue
Miroslav Skoric a écrit : 1. What would you do if you need more space in /tmp and you know you have some spare space in /home or else, but do not want to reinstall? If you are in such a situation, then you missed one of the goals of LVM. You should not have allocated all the space in the VG but instead should have left some free space for further growing or creating LVs when the need arises. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53a6da43.40...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Resizing LVM issue
Bob Proulx a écrit : There are many stories of this from people doing the same thing on the net. It seems that the code for expanding the file system is used often and optimized to run fast but that the code for shrinking it is not used very often and therefore has severe inefficiencies. But if you wait long enough, more than a week in my case, then it will finish successfully. Regardless of any optimization, shrinking a filesystem is much more difficult that expanding it. It requires to move all the used blocks which are allocated beyond the new size. Moving blocks on the same disk is a rather slow operation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53a6db85.8010...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Question: update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
But after next boot, it does not work any more - I have to to dpkg-reconfigure again. Do you have a symlink /etc/rcS.d/S??eeepc-acpi-scripts pointing to ../init.d/eeepc-acpi-scripts (the exact value of ?? varies from system to system)? Also, which init system do you use? Cheers, Sven Hi Sven, yes, I have a symlink to /etc/init.d/eeepc*, and there is also a symlink in /etc/rcS.d/. It is weired, that /etc/init.d/eeepc-acpi-scripts restart does not work, but dpkg-reconfigure eeepc-scpi-scripts does. I do not know the diffference, but I think, dpkg does start the process in a different way than /etc/init.d/* does. I do not know, which init system I am using, I guess it is init5 (as standard), but maybe I am wrong here. As I said, I changed to systemd some time ago, and I believe, this problem appeared since that change (but I am not sure!) Is there any other think I can check? Best Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1558980.D8CXvlTAXl@protheus2
Re: Installation disc creator (Was: Resizing LVM issue)
On 06/22/2014 01:41 PM, Miroslav Skoric wrote: On 06/15/2014 10:52 PM, Reco wrote: Btw, what app is good for making an image of the system, sort of full backup, and is it possible to use such an image to clone more than one comp later, i.e. to avoid installations from scratch? (I have two Debian machines here and another one with Ubuntu, and maybe would go moving that Ubuntu to Debian but don't like reinstalling all over again...) M. You could try ``Remastersys''(http://remastersys.com/), although it is currently not maintained AFAICT, it still works here. As I also use it very often -- should it finally go offline, I am going to keep at least a modified Debian version running. A cleaner approach (which I have tried multiple times without success already) could be a customized installation disc. HTH Linux-Fan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Question: debian way to create debian live-dvd
Hello list, I want to create a debian live-cd from an installed debian system. What is the best debian way? live-build can not be used, as there are some manually copied files on my system, I want to preserve (i.e. my own wordlists) and some applications, which are not available as debian packages. At the moment I am using bootcdwrite. If there are better tools (I believe, there is also live-helper), please point them to me. What I imagine is: - the live-cd should be runable (just like knoppix or similar) - it should be installable, when the user needs it - the installation should be automatically (just overwrite the complete harddrive) - user friendly (one-click-solution) I am sure, this is possible, but still did not find the correct tools. Any help is welcome. Best regards Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1605058.7DQpy4TeJZ@protheus2
Getting rights right
Hi, I have a strange behavior lately on my Deby. After a run of : chown user:user -R /home/user/Documents and : chmod 700 -R /home/user/Documents I run : find /home/user/Documents ! -perm 0700 But I still get a list of files like : . . . /home/user/Documents/administrative/passport (2).png /home/user/Documents/administrative/00IMG_0006.jpg /home/user/Documents/administrative/IMG_0016.jpg /home/user/Documents/administrative/visit.appart . . . Then if I checked their rights with : ls -la /home/user/Documents/administrative They are anyway all well checked : -rw--- Could someone have an idea of what is going on ? What should I believe ? The find command or the ls one ? Thank you -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Question: debian way to create debian live-dvd
On Sun, 6/22/14, Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Subject: Question: debian way to create debian live-dvd To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, June 22, 2014, 9:57 AM Hello list, I want to create a debian live-cd from an installed debian system. What is the best debian way? live-build can not be used, as there are some manually copied files on my system, I want to preserve (i.e. my own wordlists) and some applications, which are not available as debian packages. At the moment I am using bootcdwrite. If there are better tools (I believe, there is also live-helper), please point them to me. What I imagine is: - the live-cd should be runable (just like knoppix or similar) - it should be installable, when the user needs it - the installation should be automatically (just overwrite the complete harddrive) - user friendly (one-click-solution) I am sure, this is possible, but still did not find the correct tools. Any help is welcome. Best regards Hans refractasnapshot and refractainstaller - http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ - will create a bootable cd, dvd or USB of your working system. I have found it to be rock solid. However, it's not exactly one click and may require some adjustments to various configuration files. IMO, it's the best option out there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1403452822.53018.yahoomailba...@web163402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: Question: debian way to create debian live-dvd
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 16:57:30 +0200 Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: What is the best debian way? live-build can not be used, as there are some manually copied files on my system, I want to preserve (i.e. my own wordlists) and some applications, which are not available as debian packages. As a huge lazy person (vital to be, in IT;), I wouldn't start from scratch. I'd start from an existing CD, dump it as an ISO image, then add/modify this ISO and finally burn it on a new CD. - it should be installable, when the user needs it This might be a problem as you wanna use non-Debian pgms: may be a good way would be to package these pgms (? others will tell). - the installation should be automatically (just overwrite the complete harddrive) You shouldn't, as in a few months the risk to have unsupported hardware will grow up (unless you continually upgrade your image, which might be almost a full time work). Imagine your Ethernet|Wifi I/F isn't supported (eg: missing firmware on your CD)… bad weather it is, isn't it? On the other hand, you could reduce the number of questions asked by your installer (to the important ones) and man of the street-ize it. eg: you plan the IP address will _always_ be delivered by the user's ADSL box, add text explaining what to do to set the ADSL box as a DHCP svr in simple words, why doing that, etc. Of course, you _could_ completely automatize the installation process, but it would take a lot of _hard_ work to take _any_ case in account. So, the question behind the question is: is it worth it to spend weeks (or even months, depending on your skills, speed and free time) to build a sometimes-stable CD from scratch? Now, if the goal is just to replicate an existing installation, there is FAI, which provides easy remote installation (IIRC, it can be secured through a SSH tunnel - to be checked). -- Man is not made to work, the proof is that it exhausts him. -- Voltaire signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxFq4vxBLc_7ioiiWtcj3DbVe=uhydUv=vyiinmcyz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 13:13:39 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! Let's launch Troll-CD, a pure ubuntu distro on a USB key, multiple points of failure, etc. -- QTbot If we ping Santa, is there may be a packet loss? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01187.html wherein on Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to Reply To List, it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... But, I believe that this particular issue has very strong feelings on both sides of the debate. and so, iiuc, OP (Bret) was not trying to initiate a discussion of how things (listserv configs, etc) *should* be. instead, it looks to me that OP merely sought to clarify how things actually *are*. -wes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1406221319050.24...@brutus.ling.ohio-state.edu
apt-get update upgrade = zfsonlinux broken
debian-user: This morning, I did: # apt-get update # apt-get upgrade After rebooting, my ZFS on Linux pool and file systems no longer work: # zpool list no pools available # zfs list no datasets available I believe the ZFS kernel module is loaded: # dmesg | grep -i zfs [ 30.541398] ZFS: Loaded module v0.6.3-763_ge883253, ZFS pool version 5000, ZFS filesystem version 5 I have a single ZFS pool that uses two disks in a mirror, and they appear to be working: # l /dev/mapper/ST* /dev/mapper/ST3000DM001-9YN_S1F042HH_crypt@ /dev/mapper/ST3000DM001_1CH_W1F1R3VC_crypt@ Any suggestions? TIA, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/51357.184.23.143.12.1403458394.squir...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Getting rights right
On 06/22/2014 04:58 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi, I have a strange behavior lately on my Deby. After a run of : chown user:user -R /home/user/Documents and : chmod 700 -R /home/user/Documents I run : find /home/user/Documents ! -perm 0700 But I still get a list of files like : [...] Then if I checked their rights with : ls -la /home/user/Documents/administrative They are anyway all well checked : -rw--- Could someone have an idea of what is going on ? What should I believe ? The find command or the ls one ? Thank you Both are correct. ls tells you -rw... which is 0600 while the find command does not display (and only hides) exactly 0700. It could be possible that you opened and saved the files between the chmod and find and the application writing the files correctly (IMO) reset the permissions to non-executable 0600. Otherwise, it would be indeed strange for the permissions to magically change between chmod and find. HTH Linux-Fan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?
22.06.2014, 02:31, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com: Hi all, I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and required lightdm was LXDE. I uninstalled LXDE, installed Xfce, installed whatever bestows startx, and bang, X from the CLI command line, no *dm needed. 1) Am I correct that Debian's LXDE package installs lightdm? 2) Does that come from the LXDE project, or is it a Debian thing? 3) Is there a way to turn off LXDE's install of lightdm? The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away from both Plymouth and *dm. Fortunately, I find LXDE desireable, but no way do I find it necessary. I am sure it is just a recommends, so install it without: *apt-get install --no-install-recommends package* Also, *lxde* is a metapackage. Meta packages usually come with a ton of recommended packages by Debian to facilitate installs for the user, you can even switch it off in apt for all packages you want to install. -- David Dusanic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1595461403470...@web27m.yandex.ru
Re: dhclient changes IP address
Hi Bob, my fritz.box is a DSL router from AVM, which unfortunately does not give me access to syslog. What I noticed is that 192.168.178.87 shows up without MAC address in the list of network devices of the fritz.box I think I will try first to get support from AVM on that topic. If that is not successful, I will look in more detail into the tcpdumps (although since I have to take that on the client side, that might be difficult during the startup phase). Thanks, Rainer On Friday 20 June 2014 13:11:45 Bob Proulx wrote: Rainer Dorsch wrote: I have a system which comes up with one IP address 192.168.178.87 via dhclient, then after one day it gets eventually a different address 192.168.178.88 from my fritz.box, which runs the dhcp server: On your fritz.box what does the dhcpd log to the syslog? grep dhcpd /var/log/syslog And if you need to go back futher than a day: zgrep dhcpd /var/log/syslog* | less Also very useful for debugging is the dhcpdump utility. $ apt-cache show dhcpdump Description-en: Parse DHCP packets from tcpdump This package provides a tool for visualization of DHCP packets as recorded and output by tcpdump to analyze DHCP server responses. Bob -- Rainer Dorsch http://bokomoko.de/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1515740.EgWcvBGFbZ@blackbox
Re: Getting rights right
On 06/22/2014 10:18 PM, Linux-Fan wrote: On 06/22/2014 04:58 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi, I have a strange behavior lately on my Deby. After a run of : chown user:user -R /home/user/Documents and : chmod 700 -R /home/user/Documents I run : find /home/user/Documents ! -perm 0700 But I still get a list of files like : [...] Then if I checked their rights with : ls -la /home/user/Documents/administrative They are anyway all well checked : -rw--- Could someone have an idea of what is going on ? What should I believe ? The find command or the ls one ? Thank you Both are correct. ls tells you -rw... which is 0600 while the find command does not display (and only hides) exactly 0700. Actually I don't even get why they switch to 0600 instead of 0700. It could be possible that you opened and saved the files between the chmod and find and the application writing the files correctly (IMO) reset the permissions to non-executable 0600. Otherwise, it would be indeed strange for the permissions to magically change between chmod and find. No, I didn't. I just did these operations consecutively. Actually I verified the status of the backup (I rsync those folders preserving the rights) and I don't have the same issue with those. It seems that I have inconsistency in the home folder and I don't understand why. Disk issue ? Too many reinstalls using the same home with a different filesystem (I kind of tried squeeze, wheezy, ubuntu and maybe even Jessie I don't remember, with the same home filesystem) ? I guess I will have to format the disk, even recreate the dos table maybe, and try to recopy the files on it to see if it does the trick. Thank you anyway, I mostly wanted a confirmation before getting into that. ;) -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: dhclient changes IP address
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014 23:16:32 +0200 Rainer Dorsch m...@bokomoko.de wrote: I think I will try first to get support from AVM on that topic. If that is not successful, I will look in more detail into the tcpdumps (although since I have to take that on the client side, that might be difficult during the startup phase). Check the doc first (2nd §): http://en.avm.de/nc/service/fritzbox/fritzbox-7390/knowledge-base/publication/show/201_Configuring-FRITZ-Box-to-always-assign-the-same-IP-address-to-a-network-device/ -- * Heart2take banned from chat (Reason: organs traffic forbidden) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?
On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, David Dušanić wrote: 22.06.2014, 02:31, Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com: Hi all, I installed LXDE on a no-X, no-desktop virgin network Wheezy 64bit install with non-free software allowed, and on the next boot it went into lightdm. The only thing I could find that installed and required lightdm was LXDE. I uninstalled LXDE, installed Xfce, installed whatever bestows startx, and bang, X from the CLI command line, no *dm needed. 1) Am I correct that Debian's LXDE package installs lightdm? 2) Does that come from the LXDE project, or is it a Debian thing? 3) Is there a way to turn off LXDE's install of lightdm? The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away from both Plymouth and *dm. Fortunately, I find LXDE desireable, but no way do I find it necessary. I am sure it is just a recommends, so install it without: *apt-get install --no-install-recommends package* and in case you don't want to guess, run first $ apt-cache depends lxde (or whatever package besides lxde...) Also, *lxde* is a metapackage. Meta packages usually come with a ton of recommended packages by Debian to facilitate installs for the user, you can even switch it off in apt for all packages you want to install. ...and thereby assume responsibility for any subsequent difficulties that stem from having changed a sensible default for new users, yes. -wes
Re: apt-get update upgrade = zfsonlinux broken
debian-user: I filed an issue report on GitHub: https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/issues/116 David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/49269.184.23.143.12.1403475693.squir...@holgerdanske.com
No Evolution reminders show up in advance as desired.
After using Evolution for last 7 years for about last 3-4 months I started experiencing the described bellow problem. Appointment and reminder set up and desired behaviour: -- - Set up an appointment for a particular date. - Open Reminder, select Customize, then click Add - In Add Reminder set Pop an alert to 2 days (or 48 hours) before start of appointment. - Check Repeat the reminder box and set the reminder to be repeated 6 extra times every 8 hours. - For 7 years with the above configuration I had a reminder popping up 2 days in advance and then accurately repeated every 8 hours until the actual date of the appointment. Current (faulty) behaviour: --- - The appointment and reminder setup as described above. - NO reminder pops up in advance. Instead all 6 reminders pop up together on the date of the appointment. I experience the same problem under Debian Squeeze (GNOME Classic), Ubuntu 14.04 (Unity), and Xubuntu 14.04. In all *buntu's the data is restored to Evolution from Debian Squeeze Evolution backup. In Evolution Preferenses-Calendar_and_Tasks-Reminders: Display reminders in notification area only is checked and Show a reminder ... before every appointment is NOT checked on all 3 systems. Anybody else experiences the same problem? Can somebody help to figure out what the problem is? Google was not my friend with this. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lo7o17$6jd$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Article on swift, responsive computers
On 06/15/2014 02:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, Here's my latest Linux Productivity Magazine, themed The Swift, Responsive Machine: http://www.troubleshooters.com/lpm/201406/201406.htm Hope you enjoy it. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance Still reading your article, Steve. Very good info. Thank you. Since switching to ratpoison a couple/three years back, just about /anything else/ feels s-l-o-w. Firefox, and Mozilla in general, are really over-the-top pigs, so of late I've been fiddling with luakit browser. Regards, Jeff -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people. - Thomas Hooker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53a765d6.9080...@charter.net
Re: Getting rights right
Diogene Laerce wrote: I have a strange behavior lately on my Deby. After a run of : chown user:user -R /home/user/Documents and : chmod 700 -R /home/user/Documents Unfortunately that command was a mistake. That will set rwx for owner on all files unconditionally. For directories that is fine. But that is not correct for files. Only executables and executable scripts should have the execute bit set upon them. What you wanted to set was: chmod -R u+rwX,go-rwx /home/user/Documents The capital 'X' is the trick. The GNU chmod documentation on this says: 27.2.4 Conditional Executability There is one more special type of symbolic permission: if you use `X' instead of `x', execute/search permission is affected only if the file is a directory or already had execute permission. For example, this mode: a+X gives all users permission to search directories, or to execute files if anyone could execute them before. But wait! There's more. If the permissions were set correctly in the beginning and you just wanted to *remove* permissions from group and other then I would simply remove permissions from group and other. chmod -R go-rwx /home/user/Documents But I wonder why you need to remove group permission? Are you not using the Debian default of putting each user in their own group? That is usually called UPG (User Private Group). You originally said: If you want to verify what chmod is doing the GNU chmod command has the -v extension. It will echo print what it is doing while it is doing it. Adding the -v would show helpful information. For example: $ chmod -v -R 700 junk mode of `junk' retained as 0700 (rwx--) mode of `junk/junk2' retained as 0700 (rwx--) mode of `junk/junk2/file1' changed to 0700 (rwx--) chown user:user -R /home/user/Documents And so that group should belong to the user. Most importantly that group should belong *solely* to the user. No other users should be in that group. Therefore the better thing to do is to keep the group permissions when removing other permissions. chmod -R o-rwx /home/user/Documents Then you don't need to do anything more. That would correspond to a user umask 07 setting. better set umask 07 or new files will be created with permissions you are trying to avoid. Personally I always use umask 02 and then only add extra protection to specific files and directories that I want. And of course all of this is only important if you are operating on a multiuser server that has other people logging into it as non-root. (Root does not matter in either case. You can't protect yourself from root.) If this is on your personal laptop and no one else logs in then none of this matters aand I would stick with the Debian UPG default along with the default umask 02. I run : find /home/user/Documents ! -perm 0700 As Linux-fan correctly noted that skips files that match 0700 exactly. So that part is working correctly. What didn't work was the chmod 700 part. But that was good because that isn't want you want to do. But I still get a list of files like : . . . /home/user/Documents/administrative/passport (2).png /home/user/Documents/administrative/00IMG_0006.jpg /home/user/Documents/administrative/IMG_0016.jpg /home/user/Documents/administrative/visit.appart . . . Looks like the chmod didn't happen. But that means you didn't incorrectly make image files executable so I would count that as a win not a loss. Then if I checked their rights with : ls -la /home/user/Documents/administrative They are anyway all well checked : -rw--- Hmm... Looks like your chmod did not happen. I double checked that I wasn't having a misunderstanding and replicated your setup in a test case and it did chmod all of the files for me. Could someone have an idea of what is going on ? What should I believe ? The find command or the ls one ? I believe you must have a typo somewhere. If you double check everything you will find it. However! As I explained you do not want to chmod 700 all of your files recursively. That would be bad. So take it as a good miss and don't do it again. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On 23/06/2014, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! If either you or he, had read what had aleardy passed in the thread, you and he would have seen that the matter had been dealt with, resulting in my making a request for change, to the people maintaining PINE/ALPINE, to allow the option of replying to a list, using the List-Post field value in message headers, which solution had been included in the previous postings in the thread. I had not previously been aware of RFC2369, and so, the thread, with its responses before the trolls, had been constructive and educational, which, I believe is supposed to be the purpose of this mailing list. Gmail appears to not have provision for making Requests For Change, regarding the Gmail email facility, so I appear to not be able to make a Request For Change, to the Gmail people, which could solve the problem in using Gmail.. I had posted what I had posted, regarding the abillity to reply to the list, solution had been posted and demonstrated, and, the matter had (I believe) been closed, insofar as the thread on this list, had been concerned. The subsequent messages posted by b...@proulx.com tomh0...@gmail.com lazyvi...@gmx.com were inflammatory, and, posted for the purpose of being inflammatory, making them trolls. The thread had come to an end; it had the solution, and, the thread had died, and those people revived it, to create a zombie for evil purposes. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cacx6j8oujj4xunct3888x-0pxakqx0rtbyzrearq+eb-cuf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: apt-get update: unnecessary use of disk space
B wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: completely out of disk space. For that the reasonable amount of disk space reserved is an absolute value that a system might need on that partitions. That part really shouldn't be a percentage of the disk but should be a finite reserved amount. It isn't very important as tune2fs accepts decimals for -m, so you can easily reduce the original %age (eg: on a 39GB partition, -m 0.1 gives 9488 reserved blocks). You can also use the -r switch, specifying the exact number of reserved blocks you want. Sure. But the question was about using a 5% or smaller minfree. The other is more subtle to understand. In the old days of spinning disks the allocation algorithm will try to defrag files on the fly by allocating them appropriately. That algorithm needs a certain percentage of disk space free to use scattered throughout the drive. For that algorithm it really should be a percentage. For that algorithm people would benchmark the system performance and determine a good knee in the performance curve at various amounts of disk fullness. The knee in the curve would usually occur somewhere around the 5% free amount. Therefore setting it to 10% would guarentee good performance. Setting it to 5% would allow more use of space on bigger disks but keep performance from getting too bad. However, these blocks won't be free for use except if you use a defrag pgm, such as e2defrag. What do you mean when you say these blocks won't be free ... without defragmenting? Please explain. If you have references to share that explained the details that would be great. Also as I understand it use of e2defrag is not recommended. Using e2defrag may destroy data, depending on the feature bits turned on in the filesystem; it does not know how to treat many of the newer ext3 features. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#Defragmentation For the newer file systems like ext3, ext4 and others they perform both delayed allocation and block reservation. Those are techniques used by the file system to reduce fragmentation. It doesn't eliminate it but it is greatly reduced as long as there is sufficient free disk space already (a reason for a reasonable minfree) such that the operating system can avoid fragmentation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_fragmentation#Preventing_fragmentation Which is one of the reasons why performance is reduced when disks get to be very full. And as such it is one of the reasons that keeping a reasonable minfree is a good thing. Because it enforces operating at a less than full disk. But fragmentation is much more of an issue with spinning media. I haven't fully pre-computed how this is changed with SSDs but fragmentation should be much less of an issue with an SSD. 100% - 5% = 95% == 100% usable, so if you reach 100% (of the 95%) you're pwned except if you free the remaining sectors. Please explain how having a full disk (which reduces performance and increases fragmentation) causes your machine to be pwned. Of course now with SSDs that standard thinking needs to be thought out again. I haven't seen any benchmark data for full SSDs. I imagine that it will have much flatter performance curves up to very full on an SSD. It would super awesome if someone has already done this performance benchmarking and would post a link to it so that we could all learn from it. There is no difference, as the embedded logic first gather the whole sectors list before any operation takes place (not exactly, but as the difference is counted in ns...) I am not sure but I think you might be talking about delayed allocation and block reservation. So my thinking is that if it is a 3T spinning hard drive then I would still keep minfree at 5% (or 10%) for reasons of performance until and unless I see benchmark data showing otherwise. For any size of SSD I think it would be okay to reduce that to any smaller percentage that still reserved at least 500M (my best guess, may need a better guess) of disk space for the system to operate for log files and temporary files and other normal continuous activity. EXT4 has more protections about that: https://www.redhat.com/archives/ext3-users/2009-January/msg00026.html Thank you for that reference. It has good information that I will repeat here. And due to this author I would consider it authoritative for ext4 file systems. It directly addresses the original question that started this thread. Theodore Tso wrote to ext3-users mailing list on 23 Jan 2009: Alex Fler wrote: On large FS like 100gb default value of Reserved block count takes 5% of usable disk, can this value be safely changed to 1% and not affect a performance ? Is a reservation size of 1gb enough for 100gb disk ? And when we have even larger filesystem like 1Tb default Reserved block count is 50GB, is it an absolutely minimum must have reserved number
Re: Early access to a console (during runlevel 1)
B wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Erasing error output just doesn't erase the cause, and the cause might be very dangerous to the system's health... Erasing the error output? Why are you erasing error output? I never suggested any such thing. So you're following attentively the output of the automatic fsck, excellent... Sorry. I don't follow your line of discussion. This also means more frequent FS checks (I'm waiting for hours fsck to complete IS NOT a good excuse). Huh? What? Huh? What are you talking about? I suggested setting FSCKFIX=yes and that most certainly has nothing to do with long fsck check times nor with more frequent checks. Why did you suggest that? Because some FS errors have an incremental pattern; thus, more frequent fsck gives the user a much better chance to act before complete brakdown. I completely agree with this. It is one reason for ext file systems to implement an fsck check interval after a certain number of months or a certain number of mounts. By default the check interval time is usually 6 months. That is only triggered after a subsequent reboot however. But security upgrades to the kernel usually come through more often than this so eventually the system will get an fsck check. A proactive admin should be aware of these things and schedule appropriate preventative maintenance. I have mixed feeling about the mount counts interval however. The mount counts are usually randomized somewhat across multiple file systems so that they don't all execute at once after a series of reboots that triggers the check but that only seems partially effective. It really requires that a system be rebooted regularly and very often in order for that to be effective. And I don't think just because a system has been mounted and unmounted perhaps in a very short period of time (say 30 times in one day) to be an indication of likely need. Now, if you think your way's the best, keep on going to the bottom of it, and just replace fsck with an empty script that always returns 1. That is a classic straw man fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man In the facts, your way is almost the same as avoiding completely a fsck (the first reason I gave). Uhm... No. It isn't. My way is setting FSCKFIX=yes. Please read the documentation for it. $ man rcS ... FSCKFIX When the root and all other file systems are checked, fsck is invoked with the -a option which means autorepair. If there are major inconsistencies then the fsck process will bail out. The system will print a message asking the administrator to repair the file system manually and will present a root shell prompt (actually a sulogin prompt) on the console. Setting this option to yes causes the fsck commands to be run with the -y option instead of the -a option. This will tell fsck always to repair the file systems without asking for permission. $ man fsck.ext4 ... -a This option does the same thing as the -p option. It is pro- vided for backwards compatibility only; it is suggested that people use -p option whenever possible. ... -p Automatically repair (preen) the file system. This option will cause e2fsck to automatically fix any filesystem problems that can be safely fixed without human intervention. If e2fsck discovers a problem which may require the system administrator to take additional corrective action, e2fsck will print a description of the problem and then exit with the value 4 logi- cally or'ed into the exit code. (See the EXIT CODE section.) This option is normally used by the system's boot scripts. It may not be specified at the same time as the -n or -y options. ... -y Assume an answer of `yes' to all questions; allows e2fsck to be used non-interactively. This option may not be specified at the same time as the -n or -p options. The default is 'fsck -p' which will bail out and allow the administrator to manually repair the filesystem. My previous point was this. Is there anyone reading this mailing list that would be expert enough in the file system in order to manually repair it with a file system debugger (it has been ages since I looked at fsdb for UFS) and to do other than answer yes to any of the interactive fsck questions? If the answer is yes then that is awesome! I would love it if they would write a tutorial for others such as myself to be able to learn this knowledge and capability. But if everyone is simply going to answer yes to each interactive fsck questions then they might as well supply -y on the fsck command line. The result is exactly the same. Somehow you have mutated my suggestion of fixing the problem with ignoring the problem. Ignoring is very, very bad. Why would you even
