Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
El viernes, 27 jun 2014 a las 07:46 horas (UTC+2), Emmanuel Brenes escribió: Camaleón: Ay :( que triste, será el Hardware como pensaba... y es que son del tipo que se maneja por Audífonos + micrófono, por lo que no sé qué tipo es. Sólo sé que se conecta en el lugar normal de los audífonos. Manolo: No sé de cuál cable hablas. Si me puedes guiar, te agradecería más aún. ¡Gracias a ambos! Para tener las cosas claras. Tus audífonos con micrófono se conectan con un par de clavijas jack 35 mm, cada una parecida a la de esta imagen http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Audio-TRS-Mini-Plug.jpg/220px-Audio-TRS-Mini-Plug.jpg y diferenciadas mediante color, ¿no?. Supongo también que estás usando una tarjeta de sonido integrada en la placa base. Si se trata de una torre, las bases de conexión traseras están soldadas en la placa base, pero las frontales están conectadas mediante cables internos a unos pines de la placa base. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627082549.7a625...@gmail.com
Re: entorno de ventanas debian 7 por defecto.
Hola Felix. Disculpa por mi vocabulario local. A mi tambien me da mucha rabia leer expresiones cubanas, argentinas... eso hace que no me entere de la mitad. Por eso, procuraré usar un voccabulario mas comun. Disculpas!! :) Juan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAMF5f5CrZ_QhndUiYT46fjVJnWeO5xdT_UEcOpf=zpdqmzi...@mail.gmail.com
Fwd: necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM-Gest desde el HOST
Reenviado por: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org De: Flako subfo...@gmail.com Asunto: necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM-Gest desde el HOST Fecha: 27 de junio de 2014 00:34:19 GMT+2 Para: Lista Debian debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Hola Tengo un error de concepto con iptables, necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM (VirtualBox) que no tiene firewall, por lo que quiero hacerlo desde el HOST. En el host definí la red como: # brctl show bridge namebridge idSTP enabledinterfaces br08000.ca6887baa995no eth0 tap0 Donde la VM esta conectada al tap0 en modo bridge Intente cargar reglas similares a: iptables -A INPUT -i tap0 -p tcp --dport 22 -s xx.xx.xx.xxx -j DROP (xx.xx.xx.xxx es la ip de la VM) iptables -A INPUT -i tap0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j DROP Esas reglas no funcionan con bridge? o estoy haciendo algo mal? Gracias. Otra cuestión es que con la última rama de VirtualBox no es necesario crear un bridged y enganchas directamente al interfaz del anfitrión
Re: Migrar de BIOS a UEFI un disco duro con Debian instalado
El mié, 25-06-2014 a las 13:25 +, Camaleón escribió: El Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:12:58 +0200, Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: El mar, 24-06-2014 a las 14:42 +, Camaleón escribió: El Tue, 24 Jun 2014 09:35:07 +0200, jEsuSdA 8) escribió: (...) Sin embargo, ahora veo que las nuevas placas vienen todas con el sistema UEFI y mi duda es si será posible pinchar el disco duro con Debian ya instalada y configurada en el PC antiguo directamente en el nuevo de forma que arranque normalmente. Siempre podrás desactivar UEFI y habilitar el modo de compatibilidad con al BIOS. No siempre hay BIOS que no lo permiten. (...) Me extrañaría ver una placa base sin soporte para CSM (y no digo que no las hayas sino que serán la excepción) porque UEFI es todavía una tecnología demasiado reciente como para eliminar la retrocompatibilidad con sistemas que se hayan instalado con soporte para BIOS. En cualquier caso, como he dicho antes conviene leer el manual de la placa base para no llevarse disgustos. Saludos, -- Camaleón El HP compac 8200 es un minipc (de los que se montan en la parte trasera del monitor con fuente de alimentación externa y memoria y discos de portatil) algo antiguo ( 4 años, core duo) que venia con windows7 y el firmware que trae de HP (ya no me meto en buscar otro firmware del fabricante de la placa base que no se cual es) no tiene posibilidad de desactivar el UEFI, este es el equipo por el que me tuve que pelear y di la solución que di. -- Salud. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1403867539.13437.4.ca...@trujo.hvn.sas.junta-andalucia.es
Re: Iceweasel y Firma con Certificado
El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:29:56 +0200, Damián Naya escribió: Buenas noches. Buenas... Acuérdate de desactivar el formato html para los correos que mandes a la lista ;-) Llevo unos dos meses usando Debian y, salvando los primeros escollos, estoy encantado. Pero me he topado con un problema que no he logrado solucionar: Uso Iceweasel como navegador. Tengo correctamente instalado mi certificado de firma digital de la FNMT, pues me identifico sin problemas en distintas páginas web. Tengo instalado correctamente y comprobado Oracle Java 7 (ya evité problemas desinstalando la versión libre e instalando esta). Pero a la hora de FIRMAR un documento, o una declaración de IRPF en la AEAT, me sale un mensaje ...Error al inicializar el almacen NSS unificado de Mozilla... Hummm... https://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0hl=engws_rd=ssl#complete=0hl=enq=Error+al+inicializar+el+almacen+NSS+unificado+de+Mozilla Como si Java no pudiera abrir el almacén de certificados de Iceweasel. ¿Alguien me puede ayudar? Parece un mensaje muy común, yo rebuscaría en los enlaces que devuelve Google. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.13.35...@gmail.com
Re: necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM-Gest desde el HOST
El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:34:19 -0300, Flako escribió: (buf... no sé qué cliente de correo has usado pero el formato de este mensaje está roto, sale todo el cuerpo descuajeringado :-/) Hola Tengo un error de concepto con iptables, necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM (VirtualBox) que no tiene firewall, por lo que quiero hacerlo desde el HOST. (...) Si tienes a la máquina virtual configurada en modo puente (bridge), el equipo invitado se comporta como un sistema independiente de la red local, por lo que el host en este caso no puede actuar como elemento bloqueante salvo que los enlaces de alguna manera. En resumen, entiendo que en este caso tendrías que trabajar sobre la máquina virtual (el cliente) y añadir las reglas iptables para bloquear los puertos que necesites en ese equipo como harías en cualquier ordenador físico. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.13.47...@gmail.com
Re: LibreOffice muy lento para graficar
El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:37:23 -0300, Flako escribió: (ese html...) El 25 de junio de 2014, 10:55, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 25 Jun 2014 10:10:53 -0300, Flako escribió: Hola Estoy usando LibreOffice 4.2.1.1para graficar valores recuperados del sar, son unas 15000 lineas. pero noto que se me freezea el LibreOffice cada vez que quiero graficarlos.. Estoy usando un un I7 por lo que no puede ser tema de CPU. En Office no se sienten demoras. Les a pasado lo mismo? sera un tema de LOfice? o de algún parámetro de configuración? No quiero parecer el abogado del diablo pero parece una queja muy recurrente en LO: https://www.google.es/search?q=libreoffice+Chart+Data+slow Por si encuentras algo que te sirva... me sirvió para saber que no soy yo solo... solución no encontré, probé ultima versión de LO y OO y hace lo mismo, solo me falto probar en windows. Añádete a algún bug que hayas visto y que encaje con tu problema, cuanta más gente haya que confirme un fallo, mejor. No estoy seguro si es un tema esta tomando mal la aceleradora gráfica o es simplemente una falla del LO/OO. Yo apostaría por lo segundo pero más allá de lamentarse lo mejor es informar del problema. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.13.51...@gmail.com
Re: Migrar de BIOS a UEFI un disco duro con Debian instalado
El Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:12:19 +0200, Antonio Trujillo Carmona escribió: El mié, 25-06-2014 a las 13:25 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) Siempre podrás desactivar UEFI y habilitar el modo de compatibilidad con al BIOS. No siempre hay BIOS que no lo permiten. (...) Me extrañaría ver una placa base sin soporte para CSM (y no digo que no las hayas sino que serán la excepción) porque UEFI es todavía una tecnología demasiado reciente como para eliminar la retrocompatibilidad con sistemas que se hayan instalado con soporte para BIOS. En cualquier caso, como he dicho antes conviene leer el manual de la placa base para no llevarse disgustos. El HP compac 8200 es un minipc (de los que se montan en la parte trasera del monitor con fuente de alimentación externa y memoria y discos de portatil) algo antiguo ( 4 años, core duo) que venia con windows7 y el firmware que trae de HP (ya no me meto en buscar otro firmware del fabricante de la placa base que no se cual es) no tiene posibilidad de desactivar el UEFI, este es el equipo por el que me tuve que pelear y di la solución que di. Pues podría ser una de las excepciones que mencionaba porque HP siempre modifica las BIOS/UEFI de sus equipos (sobre todo de los equipos portátiles, compactos y/o todo-en-uno) para adecuarlas a sus necesidades (es decir, al software de gestión que tienen para Windows), vamos que no son las BIOS/UEFI que te puedes encontrar en una placa base convencional. También puede ser que en esas BIOS/UEFI modificadas la opción para desactivar UEFI venga con un nombre distinto y poco usual, como legacy boot, compatibility mode o similares, que a primera vista no parece indicar que desactivando esa función se habilite el CSM (BIOS convencional). Tampoco dices qué problema tenías exactamente que te impedía instalar Debian en ese equipo con normalidad, es decir, manteniendo UEFI nativo y usando GRUB2 para EFI. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.14.17...@gmail.com
Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:46:38 -0600, Emmanuel Brenes escribió: El 25/06/2014 07:50, Camaleón escribió: (...) Veré lo de la wiki de Arch, quizá exista algo útil porque siempre está vacía y sin nada interesante -sarcasmo-. (...) :-) ¿De qué tipo de audífonos se trata.. conexión BT, USB, jack? El kernel debería detectarlos en cuanto los conectas al equipo, en mi caso: (...) [30138.433458] usbhid: USB HID core driver [30138.573315] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio Camaleón: Ay :( que triste, será el Hardware como pensaba... Hombre, así sin más datos me parece precipitado :-) y es que son del tipo que se maneja por Audífonos + micrófono, por lo que no sé qué tipo es. Sólo sé que se conecta en el lugar normal de los audífonos. (...) Pero al menos sí sabrás la marca y el modelo y cómo se conectan al equipo ¿no? Los audífonos (headset) que conozco son de 3 tipos según su conexión al PC: 1/ BT (se conectan al puerto Bluetooth) 2/ USB (se conectan al puerto USB del equipo) 3/ Jack (se conectan a la tarjeta de sonido o bien a los altavoces/ parlantes) Únicamente en 3/ el sistema no te detectará nada cuando los conectes porque en este caso el funcionamiento dependerá de la tarjeta de sonido y de cómo la tengas configurada. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.14.29...@gmail.com
Re: Problemas Con server PPP
El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:05:15 -0400, Frank Andres Saches Calzada escribió: Hola, has secuestrado un hilo, abro uno nuevo y corrijo el formato html. Hola estoy montando un server de conexion ras sobre debian con mgetty ppp pero cuando los usuarios se estan conectando los desconecta en registrando su equipo en la red.Saludos Frank Das muy pocos datos para que te puedan ayudar. En cualquier caso, el origen/motivo de la desconexión lo tendrás en los registros (log) del servidor ppp por lo que convendría que lo subieras (omitiendo los datos sensibles) a www.pastebin.com o lo adjuntaras/ incrustaras en el correo si no son muy extensos. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.14.38...@gmail.com
Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
El 27/06/14 03:25, Manolo Díaz escribió: El viernes, 27 jun 2014 a las 07:46 horas (UTC+2), Emmanuel Brenes escribió: Camaleón: Ay :( que triste, será el Hardware como pensaba... y es que son del tipo que se maneja por Audífonos + micrófono, por lo que no sé qué tipo es. Sólo sé que se conecta en el lugar normal de los audífonos. Manolo: No sé de cuál cable hablas. Si me puedes guiar, te agradecería más aún. ¡Gracias a ambos! Para tener las cosas claras. Tus audífonos con micrófono se conectan con un par de clavijas jack 35 mm, cada una parecida a la de esta imagen http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Audio-TRS-Mini-Plug.jpg/220px-Audio-TRS-Mini-Plug.jpg y diferenciadas mediante color, ¿no?. Supongo también que estás usando una tarjeta de sonido integrada en la placa base. Si se trata de una torre, las bases de conexión traseras están soldadas en la placa base, pero las frontales están conectadas mediante cables internos a unos pines de la placa base. -- Manolo Díaz ... y esos cables no suelen ser blindados, por lo que, si pasan cerca de algún elemento interferidor, recogen ruidos molestos. Hay que abrir el gabinete y moverlos al mismo tiempo que escuchas en los auriculares.Una aguja de tejer, de madera o plástico, resulta ideal para este cometido. Suerte. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad84e3.3090...@gmail.com
Re: necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM-Gest desde el HOST
El 27 de junio de 2014, 10:47, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:34:19 -0300, Flako escribió: (buf... no sé qué cliente de correo has usado pero el formato de este mensaje está roto, sale todo el cuerpo descuajeringado :-/) Hola Tengo un error de concepto con iptables, necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM (VirtualBox) que no tiene firewall, por lo que quiero hacerlo desde el HOST. (...) Si tienes a la máquina virtual configurada en modo puente (bridge), el equipo invitado se comporta como un sistema independiente de la red local, por lo que el host en este caso no puede actuar como elemento bloqueante salvo que los enlaces de alguna manera. En resumen, entiendo que en este caso tendrías que trabajar sobre la máquina virtual (el cliente) y añadir las reglas iptables para bloquear los puertos que necesites en ese equipo como harías en cualquier ordenador físico. Saludos, Hola Gracias por responder, pero creo que me explique mal. La razón de crear un TAP para la VM es para poder filtrarla, si configuro la VM como bridge directamente a eth0 por lo que entiendo no se puede filtrar.. Sigo sin comprender del todo el funcionamiento de iptables.., pero encontré https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-bridge-fw.en.html que con amargo copypage funciono.. Parece que FORWARD se evalua antes de INPUT, ademas creo que INPUT no se usa dentro del bridge. Con las reglas: iptables -F FORWARD iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -s 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -d 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 -m state --state INVALID -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -s 0/0 -d xx.1x.1x.1xx --dport 22 -j DROP #Bloquea entrada iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -s xx.1x.1x.1xx -d 0/0 --dport 22 -j DROP #Bloquea Salida iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -s 0/0 -d xx.1x.1x.1xx --dport 488 -j DROP #Bloquea entrada iptables -A FORWARD -p udp -s xx.1x.1x.1xx -d 0/0 --dport 488 -j DROP #Bloquea Salida Lo que logre es hacerlo sin poner la ip, probé con iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -s 0/0 -o tap0 --dport 22 -j DROP iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -s 0/0 -i eth0 -o tap0 --dport 22 -j DROP pero no funcionan, pero de nuevo no comprendo el porque :( Gracias.
Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
On Friday, Jun 27 2014 at 16:29 (UTC+2), Camaleón wrote: Los audífonos (headset) que conozco son de 3 tipos según su conexión al PC: 1/ BT (se conectan al puerto Bluetooth) 2/ USB (se conectan al puerto USB del equipo) 3/ Jack (se conectan a la tarjeta de sonido o bien a los altavoces/ parlantes) Únicamente en 3/ el sistema no te detectará nada cuando los conectes porque en este caso el funcionamiento dependerá de la tarjeta de sonido y de cómo la tengas configurada. Incluso en el tercer caso el sistema puede detectarlo. Al introducir la clavija, la impedancia a la salida disminuye drásticamente, y esto puede ser detectado por la tarjeta. Sirve para que el usuario pueda decidir si se silencian los altavoces cuando se conecta el auricular mediante una casilla en la aplicación de mezcla de sonido. Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627173255.0a906...@gmail.com
Re: necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM-Gest desde el HOST
El Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:17:31 -0300, Flako escribió: (Flako, hay que desactivar el html...) El 27 de junio de 2014, 10:47, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:34:19 -0300, Flako escribió: (buf... no sé qué cliente de correo has usado pero el formato de este mensaje está roto, sale todo el cuerpo descuajeringado :-/) Hola Tengo un error de concepto con iptables, necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM (VirtualBox) que no tiene firewall, por lo que quiero hacerlo desde el HOST. (...) Si tienes a la máquina virtual configurada en modo puente (bridge), el equipo invitado se comporta como un sistema independiente de la red local, por lo que el host en este caso no puede actuar como elemento bloqueante salvo que los enlaces de alguna manera. En resumen, entiendo que en este caso tendrías que trabajar sobre la máquina virtual (el cliente) y añadir las reglas iptables para bloquear los puertos que necesites en ese equipo como harías en cualquier ordenador físico. Hola Gracias por responder, pero creo que me explique mal. La razón de crear un TAP para la VM es para poder filtrarla, si configuro la VM como bridge directamente a eth0 por lo que entiendo no se puede filtrar.. (...) Esto no lo pillo. El modo puente en VM te permite la mayor flexibilidad de configuración de la red en la máquina virtual, como si fuera un equipo real con un adaptador de red individual. Tiene algunas limitaciones pero que yo sepa nada relacionado con el filtrado de la interfaz: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#networkingmodes Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.15.34...@gmail.com
Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
El Fri, 27 Jun 2014 17:32:55 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió: On Friday, Jun 27 2014 at 16:29 (UTC+2), Camaleón wrote: Los audífonos (headset) que conozco son de 3 tipos según su conexión al PC: 1/ BT (se conectan al puerto Bluetooth) 2/ USB (se conectan al puerto USB del equipo) 3/ Jack (se conectan a la tarjeta de sonido o bien a los altavoces/ parlantes) Únicamente en 3/ el sistema no te detectará nada cuando los conectes porque en este caso el funcionamiento dependerá de la tarjeta de sonido y de cómo la tengas configurada. Incluso en el tercer caso el sistema puede detectarlo. (...) Me refiero al kernel. Mira a ver qué te dice el dmesg cuando conectas un micrófono en la entrada de audio de la tarjeta de sonido... a mí no me da ni los buenos días, vamos, que no se genera ningún evento lo cual no quiere decir que no funcione, sólo que el registro del dmesg no sirve en este caso para comprobar el funcionamiento/detección correcta del dispositivo ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.06.27.15.48...@gmail.com
integrar postfix+dovecot con ldap
hola lista alguna referencia fiable a algun tuto o manual donde digan como integrar postfix+dovecot con ldap? eh encontrado algunos en internet pero sin nigun resultado positivo y muy incompletos. gracias de antemano por la ayuda - Consejo Nacional de Casas de Cultura, Visítenos: www.casasdecultura.cult.cu - Consejo Nacional de Casas de Cultura, VisÃtenos: www.casasdecultura.cult.cu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/51664a92b84debcadb07d3367c8d021c.squir...@correo.cncc-malecon.cu
Re: entorno de ventanas debian 7 por defecto.
El día 27 de junio de 2014, 2:54, Juan Guil erj...@gmail.com escribió: Hola Felix. Disculpa por mi vocabulario local. A mi tambien me da mucha rabia leer expresiones cubanas, argentinas... eso hace que no me entere de la mitad. Por eso, procuraré usar un voccabulario mas comun. Disculpas!! No te preocupes, con un español neutro es suficiente, Solo es que me llamó la atención el termino y cuando lo busqué en la RAE no me hizo sentido. Gracias Juan, Manolo y José Luis. Saludos -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAiZAx5KFF7Js=vjvp_sz6bezvncmo_az8m5cczqlquyr+-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: necesito bloquear puertos (IN/OUT) de una VM-Gest desde el HOST
El día 27 de junio de 2014, 12:34, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:17:31 -0300, Flako escribió: (Flako, hay que desactivar el html...) mm, yo lo veo sin html.. Esto no lo pillo. El modo puente en VM te permite la mayor flexibilidad de configuración de la red en la máquina virtual, como si fuera un equipo real con un adaptador de red individual. Tiene algunas limitaciones pero que yo sepa nada relacionado con el filtrado de la interfaz: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch06.html#networkingmodes Si conectas la VM con Bridged networking al eth0 del host, el host no puede controlar los paquetes (pasan directos a la VM), es decir no los puede filtrar via iptables (al menos eso es lo que entendí luego de leer y preguntar). Entonces por eso se arma un bridge en el host (nota que en la primera opción no hay un bridge real), con un bridge en el host los paquetes son tratados de otra forma y se pueden filtrar por iptables. Todo esto puede tener errores de concepto... pero hasta ahora parece funcionar :) ethetneydel VirtualBox y conectarte directamente a la interface del Host eth0 o crear un bridge y un TAP desde el Host para luego conectar la VM al -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CADqxbRSCqrB0JxQHX331jwBDUtCkZFBeBq4c4ut=fpde_fo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
El 27/06/2014 08:29, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:46:38 -0600, Emmanuel Brenes escribió: El 25/06/2014 07:50, Camaleón escribió: (...) Veré lo de la wiki de Arch, quizá exista algo útil porque siempre está vacía y sin nada interesante -sarcasmo-. (...) :-) ¿De qué tipo de audífonos se trata.. conexión BT, USB, jack? El kernel debería detectarlos en cuanto los conectas al equipo, en mi caso: (...) [30138.433458] usbhid: USB HID core driver [30138.573315] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio Camaleón: Ay :( que triste, será el Hardware como pensaba... Hombre, así sin más datos me parece precipitado :-) y es que son del tipo que se maneja por Audífonos + micrófono, por lo que no sé qué tipo es. Sólo sé que se conecta en el lugar normal de los audífonos. (...) Pero al menos sí sabrás la marca y el modelo y cómo se conectan al equipo ¿no? Los audífonos (headset) que conozco son de 3 tipos según su conexión al PC: 1/ BT (se conectan al puerto Bluetooth) 2/ USB (se conectan al puerto USB del equipo) 3/ Jack (se conectan a la tarjeta de sonido o bien a los altavoces/ parlantes) Únicamente en 3/ el sistema no te detectará nada cuando los conectes porque en este caso el funcionamiento dependerá de la tarjeta de sonido y de cómo la tengas configurada. Saludos, Vamos por partes. Manolo Díaz: ¡Efectivamente! Esos mismos. Pero tienen un detalle, son ambos en el mismo, el conector es uno y fueron probados ya en otros sistemas (Mac y Windows) y en ambos funcionó el micrófono, que es el del problema. Yo los tengo conectados en la parte frontal del gabinete que es donde están las entradas de varios dispositivos, ya que los parlantes/altavoces están detrás. Así que sí, esos son. Alberto Vicat: El problema es que el computador es nuevo, y la garantía no cubriría mis manos dentro. Camaleón: Sí, la marca es Urban Beatz, a través de Jack es que se conecta, como me dio a entender Manolo. :) Entonces, el problema es propio de la configuración... ¿existe alguna referencia de ello? Porque, con lo que he hecho, no llegué a ningún lado aún. Lo apunto y lo hago. A ver si encuentro algo interesante. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu436-smtp1449bf7a1e3ac76273ed42ba1...@phx.gbl
debian para niños
hola colegas, resulta que tengo una sobrina a la que le regalaré un portatil y me gustaria incluir en el algun software educativo, pero no del tipo netbeans ni nada, sino algo simple pues ella tiene 8 años. Alguien tiene alguna experiencia en este ámbito, y que me pueda recomendar algunas aplicaciones a incluir? saludos! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAG799-pAK8EVGLgE00=0kbtrhi9f6+0k9mjptkny4xrd0o1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: debian para niños
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 22:15:41 -0400 javier frf francisco...@gmail.com wrote: hola colegas, resulta que tengo una sobrina a la que le regalaré un portatil y me gustaria incluir en el algun software educativo, pero no del tipo netbeans ni nada, sino algo simple pues ella tiene 8 años. Alguien tiene alguna experiencia en este ámbito, y que me pueda recomendar algunas aplicaciones a incluir? saludos! Hola, Javier. He tenido experiencias muy positivas con las _suites_ infantiles Childsplay y GCompris, lleno de juegos educativos (con Synaptic podrás añadir el idioma español fácilmente). También te recomiendo TuxMath y TuxType, juegos con retos de matemáticas y mecanografía. Espero que tu sobrina los disfrute. ¡Saludos! - -- Allan Aguilar (Ralgis) Mail → ral...@vmail.me PGP → 4096/65EB1C38 414D 470B 806D F4B4 07FE FC11 49C8 754E 65EB 1C38 Blog → https://editandowikimedia.wordpress.com/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQECAAYFAlOuK9EACgkQstnCd1Mvza88+QP/XxSChnr5uodfy23ushMyCE7W 4AlrYknFm28T6X48CrIDj9aaryAA4cUmnd6YWj0cs/KqrQQ9fwvbN7oIshcbeiYz u5SRGlf7FqKjf7rNBfzXL3p1SETTYJdAmGOakRRWn9+1vX91+emhOApUj0pCyYfc HKYfc8yc6FWMLjwo/zI= =n/qo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: debian para niños
El sábado, 28 jun 2014 a las 04:15 horas (UTC+2), javier frf escribió: hola colegas, resulta que tengo una sobrina a la que le regalaré un portatil y me gustaria incluir en el algun software educativo, pero no del tipo netbeans ni nada, sino algo simple pues ella tiene 8 años. Alguien tiene alguna experiencia en este ámbito, y que me pueda recomendar algunas aplicaciones a incluir? saludos! Experiencia, ninguna. Pero una búsqueda con apt-cache search debian edu child devuelve lo siguiente: education-desktop-sugar - Debian Edu sugar desktop environment education-logic-games - Debian Edu logic games junior-math - Debian Jr. educational math El primero es un metapaquete. Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140628070602.63ced...@gmail.com
Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
El sábado, 28 jun 2014 a las 03:28 horas (UTC+2), Emmanuel Brenes escribió: El 27/06/2014 08:29, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:46:38 -0600, Emmanuel Brenes escribió: El 25/06/2014 07:50, Camaleón escribió: (...) Veré lo de la wiki de Arch, quizá exista algo útil porque siempre está vacía y sin nada interesante -sarcasmo-. (...) :-) ¿De qué tipo de audífonos se trata.. conexión BT, USB, jack? El kernel debería detectarlos en cuanto los conectas al equipo, en mi caso: (...) [30138.433458] usbhid: USB HID core driver [30138.573315] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio Camaleón: Ay :( que triste, será el Hardware como pensaba... Hombre, así sin más datos me parece precipitado :-) y es que son del tipo que se maneja por Audífonos + micrófono, por lo que no sé qué tipo es. Sólo sé que se conecta en el lugar normal de los audífonos. (...) Pero al menos sí sabrás la marca y el modelo y cómo se conectan al equipo ¿no? Los audífonos (headset) que conozco son de 3 tipos según su conexión al PC: 1/ BT (se conectan al puerto Bluetooth) 2/ USB (se conectan al puerto USB del equipo) 3/ Jack (se conectan a la tarjeta de sonido o bien a los altavoces/ parlantes) Únicamente en 3/ el sistema no te detectará nada cuando los conectes porque en este caso el funcionamiento dependerá de la tarjeta de sonido y de cómo la tengas configurada. Saludos, Vamos por partes. Manolo Díaz: ¡Efectivamente! Esos mismos. Pero tienen un detalle, son ambos en el mismo, el conector es uno y fueron probados ya en otros sistemas (Mac y Windows) y en ambos funcionó el micrófono, que es el del problema. Cuando dices que han sido probados en Mac y Windows, ¿te refieres a tu ordenador corriendo Mac y Windows o a _otro(s)_ ordenador(es) corriendo Mac y Windows? Porque si es lo último, esa información solo sirve para hacernos una idea equivocada de lo que ocurre. Dices que tiene micro + auriculares con _un solo jack_. Vale, ¿cuántos segmentos tiene? La imagen que te envié en un correo anterior tiene 3. Esta siguiente tiene 4 (separados por 3 anillas negras aislantes) y debe tratarse de un sistema auriculares estéreos + micro monoaural. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xFtOSanxL._SL1500_.jpg Pues bien, si yo conectase un auricular como este último en mi ordenador no se conectaría el micro, pero sí el audio estéreo. No es un problema de sistema operativo, sino de diseño de la conexión. Yo los tengo conectados en la parte frontal del gabinete que es donde están las entradas de varios dispositivos, ya que los parlantes/altavoces están detrás. Así que sí, esos son. Alberto Vicat: El problema es que el computador es nuevo, y la garantía no cubriría mis manos dentro. Camaleón: Sí, la marca es Urban Beatz, a través de Jack es que se conecta, como me dio a entender Manolo. :) Entonces, el problema es propio de la configuración... ¿existe alguna referencia de ello? Porque, con lo que he hecho, no llegué a ningún lado aún. Lo apunto y lo hago. A ver si encuentro algo interesante. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140628073628.72f6d...@gmail.com
Re: Micrófono integrado y problemas.
El 27/06/2014 23:36, Manolo Díaz escribió: El sábado, 28 jun 2014 a las 03:28 horas (UTC+2), Emmanuel Brenes escribió: El 27/06/2014 08:29, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 26 Jun 2014 23:46:38 -0600, Emmanuel Brenes escribió: El 25/06/2014 07:50, Camaleón escribió: (...) Veré lo de la wiki de Arch, quizá exista algo útil porque siempre está vacía y sin nada interesante -sarcasmo-. (...) :-) ¿De qué tipo de audífonos se trata.. conexión BT, USB, jack? El kernel debería detectarlos en cuanto los conectas al equipo, en mi caso: (...) [30138.433458] usbhid: USB HID core driver [30138.573315] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio Camaleón: Ay :( que triste, será el Hardware como pensaba... Hombre, así sin más datos me parece precipitado :-) y es que son del tipo que se maneja por Audífonos + micrófono, por lo que no sé qué tipo es. Sólo sé que se conecta en el lugar normal de los audífonos. (...) Pero al menos sí sabrás la marca y el modelo y cómo se conectan al equipo ¿no? Los audífonos (headset) que conozco son de 3 tipos según su conexión al PC: 1/ BT (se conectan al puerto Bluetooth) 2/ USB (se conectan al puerto USB del equipo) 3/ Jack (se conectan a la tarjeta de sonido o bien a los altavoces/ parlantes) Únicamente en 3/ el sistema no te detectará nada cuando los conectes porque en este caso el funcionamiento dependerá de la tarjeta de sonido y de cómo la tengas configurada. Saludos, Vamos por partes. Manolo Díaz: ¡Efectivamente! Esos mismos. Pero tienen un detalle, son ambos en el mismo, el conector es uno y fueron probados ya en otros sistemas (Mac y Windows) y en ambos funcionó el micrófono, que es el del problema. Cuando dices que han sido probados en Mac y Windows, ¿te refieres a tu ordenador corriendo Mac y Windows o a _otro(s)_ ordenador(es) corriendo Mac y Windows? Porque si es lo último, esa información solo sirve para hacernos una idea equivocada de lo que ocurre. Dices que tiene micro + auriculares con _un solo jack_. Vale, ¿cuántos segmentos tiene? La imagen que te envié en un correo anterior tiene 3. Esta siguiente tiene 4 (separados por 3 anillas negras aislantes) y debe tratarse de un sistema auriculares estéreos + micro monoaural. http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51xFtOSanxL._SL1500_.jpg Pues bien, si yo conectase un auricular como este último en mi ordenador no se conectaría el micro, pero sí el audio estéreo. No es un problema de sistema operativo, sino de diseño de la conexión. Yo los tengo conectados en la parte frontal del gabinete que es donde están las entradas de varios dispositivos, ya que los parlantes/altavoces están detrás. Así que sí, esos son. Alberto Vicat: El problema es que el computador es nuevo, y la garantía no cubriría mis manos dentro. Camaleón: Sí, la marca es Urban Beatz, a través de Jack es que se conecta, como me dio a entender Manolo. :) Entonces, el problema es propio de la configuración... ¿existe alguna referencia de ello? Porque, con lo que he hecho, no llegué a ningún lado aún. Lo apunto y lo hago. A ver si encuentro algo interesante. -- Manolo Díaz En computadores ajenos, Manolo. Pues, la desgracia es que es de tres segmentos y según tu sentencia... creo que nada se puede hacer. :( ¿Existe alguna forma de usarlos? Sé que un adaptador suena loco, pero creo que es la única opción que se me ocurre. ¡Gracias por el tiempo y la explicación! - Lo mismo para Camaleón y Alberto, que no les agradecí antes. ¡Gracias! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/blu436-smtp259804822654d2526beadbca1...@phx.gbl
Re: rsync-fråga för migrering
2014-06-26 22:56, Per Andersson skrev: 2014-06-11 22:08 GMT+02:00 Tobias Carlsson janerlingtob...@gmail.com: Ska jag synka hela installationen eller ska jag göra en nyinstallation och bara synka vissa mappar och filer? Jag hade gjord en nyinstallation och sedan kopierat det som behövs. I de flesta sammanhang är detta vad jag också skulle gjort. När jag säkerhetskopierar datorer eller migrerar till nya så gör jag en rsync av typiskt /home och eventuellt /var/www. Databaser dumpar jag till fil. Det kanske kan vara värt att backupa /etc för dig också? Jag brukar köra dirvish (ett perlgränssnitt framför rsync) till en extern maskin så får jag en daglig backup med god retension och rensning, en katalogstruktur per dag, ett trettiotal ögonblicksbilder som bara tar en kopia + skillnader i anspråk. En nattlig databasdump på den lokala maskinen är att föredra. Annars kan du ju från en livecd bara kopiera hela disken, bit för bit dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb då får du ju med den gamla partitioneringen osv vilket kanske inte är önskvärt. -- Per En äldre maskin som man vill QD få upp någon annanstans så är dd bra. Faktum är att det är möjligt att förstora partitionerna i efterhand på den nya disken. Du kan även lägga de nya partitionerna på LVM på den nya maskinen så blir det ytterligare lite mer flexibelt. Men har man tid och inte är stressad så är nyinstallation och selektiv återläsning av backup att föredra. I en katastrof-situation då man behöver återställa affärskritiska tjänster så kan dd över en SAS/SATA-buss vara att föredra jämfört med rsync/scp över 100 MBit tillsammans med en lång rad manuella handgrepp. BTW dpkg --get-selections | ssh ny maskin dpkg --set-selections # behändigt sätt att klona en maskin Mvh Anders Wallenquist -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad17aa.10...@kreawit.se
Re: rsync-fråga för migrering
Hej! Tack för era svar. Jag kopierade t.ex. /home och /var/www med rsync, dumpade MySQL-databaserna med mysqldump, kopierade för hand viktigare konfigurationsfiler, som t.ex. sajterna (i Apache2). Gjorde sedan en ny installation av Debian. Sen la jag bara till de viktigaste paketen som vanligt. Det tog några dagar, men nu är allt uppe igen. Var lite strul med att jag hade missat aktivera vissa moduler i Apache- t.ex., men man lär sig. :) Tack för tipset med listan av installerade paket och med avbilderna. En fördel med nyinstallation är ju att man blir av med saker man inte använder och som man har glömt bort. Antar att systemmigrering är en konst och att det finns lite olika lösningar beroende på tycke och smak. Mvh Tobias Den 26 juni 2014 22:56 skrev Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com: 2014-06-11 22:08 GMT+02:00 Tobias Carlsson janerlingtob...@gmail.com: Hej! Jag ska migrera en Debian-installation till ny hårddisk. Till hjälp har jag en 500GB extern hårddisk och jag tänkte testa med rsync. (Nuvarande hårddiskar är på 60GB + 240GB) På servern har jag några wordpress-bloggar som använder MySQL och Apache2 samt PHP5. Dessutom har jag några användare med lite olika tjänster och en brandväggskonfiguration med ufw. Ska jag synka hela installationen eller ska jag göra en nyinstallation och bara synka vissa mappar och filer? Jag hade gjord en nyinstallation och sedan kopierat det som behövs. På DebConf10 berättade en sysadmin på Stanford att de (vid OS-uppgradering förvisso) ominstallerar maskinerna helt och hållet. De installerar Debian från början och kör sedan in allting från versionshantering osv. Det blir också en bra kontroll att återhämtning korrekt vid en katastrof fungerar. På nuvarande server har jag olika partitioner för t.ex. /var - och /home har jag på en andra hårddisk. Den nya hårddisken ska ersätta båda de gamla diskarna. Jag är medveten om att det finns många guider på nätet för detta, men jag tänkte först kolla hur ni brukar göra. När jag säkerhetskopierar datorer eller migrerar till nya så gör jag en rsync av typiskt /home och eventuellt /var/www. Databaser dumpar jag till fil. Det kanske kan vara värt att backupa /etc för dig också? Det mest kritiska är wordpress-installationerna som ligger i /var/www just nu och dess databaser, allt annat går ju att fixa manuellt, men så mycket som möjligt vill jag kunna migrera. Jag hade först gjort en lista med alla installerade paket dpkg -l /mnt/gammal-disk/alla-installerade-paket installerat OS på nytt, installerat alla paket från listan, skapat nya användare, kopierat filerna i /home, /var, /etc, brandväggsregler, migrerat databasen osv. Annars kan du ju från en livecd bara kopiera hela disken, bit för bit dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb då får du ju med den gamla partitioneringen osv vilket kanske inte är önskvärt. -- Per
Re: rsync-fråga för migrering
Den 27 jun 2014 13:02 skrev Tobias Carlsson janerlingtob...@gmail.com: Hej! Hej Tack för era svar. Jag kopierade t.ex. /home och /var/www med rsync, dumpade MySQL-databaserna med mysqldump, kopierade för hand viktigare konfigurationsfiler, som t.ex. sajterna (i Apache2). Gjorde sedan en ny installation av Debian. Sen la jag bara till de viktigaste paketen som vanligt. Det tog några dagar, men nu är allt uppe igen. Var lite strul med att jag hade missat aktivera vissa moduler i Apache- t.ex., men man lär sig. :) Sådant går att komma ifrån om man dokumenterar ordentligt. ;-) Bäst dokumenterar man med installationsskript och system typ FAI, chef eller liknande. Då kan om installationer göras på ett tiotal minuter, inklusive återställande av data (beroende på hur mycket som skall återställas). Tack för tipset med listan av installerade paket och med avbilderna. En fördel med nyinstallation är ju att man blir av med saker man inte använder och som man har glömt bort. Antar att systemmigrering är en konst och att det finns lite olika lösningar beroende på tycke och smak. Jo, det finns mycket att göra där. Men automatiserad installation är ett sådant. Samt bra backupsystem, eller i vart fall ett backupsystem över huvudtaget. ;-) Mvh Tobias Den 26 juni 2014 22:56 skrev Per Andersson avtob...@gmail.com: 2014-06-11 22:08 GMT+02:00 Tobias Carlsson janerlingtob...@gmail.com: Hej! Jag ska migrera en Debian-installation till ny hårddisk. Till hjälp har jag en 500GB extern hårddisk och jag tänkte testa med rsync. (Nuvarande hårddiskar är på 60GB + 240GB) På servern har jag några wordpress-bloggar som använder MySQL och Apache2 samt PHP5. Dessutom har jag några användare med lite olika tjänster och en brandväggskonfiguration med ufw. Ska jag synka hela installationen eller ska jag göra en nyinstallation och bara synka vissa mappar och filer? Jag hade gjord en nyinstallation och sedan kopierat det som behövs. På DebConf10 berättade en sysadmin på Stanford att de (vid OS-uppgradering förvisso) ominstallerar maskinerna helt och hållet. De installerar Debian från början och kör sedan in allting från versionshantering osv. Det blir också en bra kontroll att återhämtning korrekt vid en katastrof fungerar. På nuvarande server har jag olika partitioner för t.ex. /var - och /home har jag på en andra hårddisk. Den nya hårddisken ska ersätta båda de gamla diskarna. Jag är medveten om att det finns många guider på nätet för detta, men jag tänkte först kolla hur ni brukar göra. När jag säkerhetskopierar datorer eller migrerar till nya så gör jag en rsync av typiskt /home och eventuellt /var/www. Databaser dumpar jag till fil. Det kanske kan vara värt att backupa /etc för dig också? Det mest kritiska är wordpress-installationerna som ligger i /var/www just nu och dess databaser, allt annat går ju att fixa manuellt, men så mycket som möjligt vill jag kunna migrera. Jag hade först gjort en lista med alla installerade paket dpkg -l /mnt/gammal-disk/alla-installerade-paket installerat OS på nytt, installerat alla paket från listan, skapat nya användare, kopierat filerna i /home, /var, /etc, brandväggsregler, migrerat databasen osv. Annars kan du ju från en livecd bara kopiera hela disken, bit för bit dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb då får du ju med den gamla partitioneringen osv vilket kanske inte är önskvärt. -- Per
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Caros, não obtive sucesso com a solução enviada pelo Geowany. Alguém possui uma outra? Em 9 de junho de 2014 00:18, Geowany Alves geowany.a...@gmail.com escreveu: Em 8 de junho de 2014 17:31, Marcio Rufino marciorufin...@gmail.com escreveu: Boa noite pessoal, preciso implementar uma url que permita a troca de senhas de usuarios no active directory 2008. Vi algumas coisas em PHP no google. Alguem tem isso funcionando para trocarmos um ideia? Obrigado. Boa noite, Marcio! Acredito que uma solução seria usar o LDAP Tool Box - Self Service Password que também é feito em PHP. Recentemente escrevi uma dica no site Viva o Linux sobre a instalação do SSP para OpenLDAP. Se você olhar o arquivo de configuração, verá que também existe opção para uso no AD mas nesse caso terá que gerar um certificado do servidor AD e instalá-lo no servidor web. Existem algumas formas de redefinição de senha como através de email, pergunta/resposta secreta e até envio de SMS (não testei). Segue o link: http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/LDAP-Tool-Box-Project-Self-Service-Password Att, *Geowany Galdino Alves* *Assistente em Tecnologia da Informação - NTI/UFAC* *Acadêmico em Licenciatura Plena - HISTÓRIA/UFAC*
Re: [OFF] Listas de e-mail para C (Linguagem estruturada)
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Re: Synaptic messed up
On Thursday 26 June 2014 23:55:55 Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 05:40 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib This is what I got when I did $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list Sorry for delay. Different time-zones! That needs sorting! I should have asked: What GUI/DE (Graphical User Interface/Desktop Environment) are you using? (So I know what editors you are likely to have. Yes, this can be done with Vi/Vim, but doesn't need to be.) You need to edit that! I don't wonder that Synaptic is a little confused! The beginnings of all the lines are all run together. It is also all over the shop. Dealing with it can be quite easy. Just let us know the answer to the above question. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406270818.19666.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Synaptic messed up
On 27/06/14 04:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 08:56 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 04:59:30PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 08:13 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:16:56PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/25/2014 09:21 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:18:41PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I had an orange triangle show up where the upstate square usually shows. I clicked on it and got the following messages. Error message: Fetch failed: W:Failed to fetch ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' , W:Failed to fetch ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/contrib/source/Sources Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. I opened synaptic and received the following: E: The value 'stable-updates' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources E: _cache-open() failed, please report. I do not see stable-updates in here, but this is a back-up file from when the sources.list was last edited. It's still possible that it was edited and somewhere has stable-updates in it. Tony How do I find out what is suppose to be there or how do I fix it? I have basic knowledge of the command line so if someone would tell me how to fix it I will attempt to do so. Just anywhere you see stable-updates, change it to wheezy-updates. If you use vim, you can just do :%s/stable-updates/wheezy-updates/g Tony I did as you said in vim and got this back E486: Pattern not found: stable-updates So I am really confused now. Any other solutions to try. Maureen Do you have on your system /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? If so are there any files in that directory? rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad1eb2.4040...@rektau.ukfsn.org
Re: Synaptic messed up
On Friday 27 June 2014 08:35:14 rob wrote: On 27/06/14 04:53, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 08:56 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 04:59:30PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 08:13 AM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:16:56PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/25/2014 09:21 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote: On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 08:18:41PM -0400, Maureen L Thomas wrote: I had an orange triangle show up where the upstate square usually shows. I clicked on it and got the following messages. Error message: Fetch failed: W:Failed to fetch ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/mai n/source/Sources Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' , W:Failed to fetch ftp://debian.cites.illinois.edu/pub/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/con trib/source/Sources Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. I opened synaptic and received the following: E: The value 'stable-updates' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources E: _cache-open() failed, please report. I do not see stable-updates in here, but this is a back-up file from when the sources.list was last edited. It's still possible that it was edited and somewhere has stable-updates in it. Tony How do I find out what is suppose to be there or how do I fix it? I have basic knowledge of the command line so if someone would tell me how to fix it I will attempt to do so. Just anywhere you see stable-updates, change it to wheezy-updates. If you use vim, you can just do :%s/stable-updates/wheezy-updates/g Tony I did as you said in vim and got this back E486: Pattern not found: stable-updates So I am really confused now. Any other solutions to try. Maureen Do you have on your system /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? If so are there any files in that directory? Do you not think that getting her sources.list in a bit less of a mess might be a good place to start? I find that once my sources.list is right, everything else falls into place. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201406270843.36689.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Synaptic messed up
On 06/27/2014 12:55 AM, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 05:40 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib This is what I got when I did $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list If you got that, the most obvious point is that you should have : deb http or deb-src http instead of : debhttp or deb-src http so maybe if you could join your sources.list as attachment or in pastebin, we could have a real look at it. Regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Synaptic messed up
On 06/27/2014 12:55 AM, Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 05:40 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib This is what I got when I did $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list Another solution is to make a brand new sources.list (backup up the previous one) and see if it works. You can make one easily here : http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ Cheers, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: is this sensible?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 14:11, Floris a écrit : Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris jkflo...@dds.nl: Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit : On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit : On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote: I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly for an unknown reason). So I asked: apt-get install gthumb Before installing anything, always update. This is what the machine is actually trying to do. Update, so that everything is current, then install the required package immediately, and you won't have that trouble. Cheers! The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance, gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 (I don't want to compile anything...) why do I have to install these xserver: xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-modesetting xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-nvidia xserver-xorg-video-openchrome xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware I have an nvidia graphic card, so, if needed nouveau but I use the proprietary driver... Why should I install systemd? etc. etc. I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a preceeding update I waste more time to recover a system than to work try: #apt-get install --no-install-recommends gthumb But I think there is a xserver-xorg-input-all and xserver-xorg-video-all dependency somewhere. Installing xserver-xorg-input-evdev and xserver-xorg-video-nvidia should be enough to satisfy all packages See: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gthumb for a list of dependencies for example: gthumb needs libc6 needs libgcc1 needs gcc-4.7-base This what is writen as dependencies in packages... OK but I am wondering why gthumb (and its dependencies) needs to install systemd - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlOtQmYACgkQdE6C2dhV2JXogACgphpgs3X3yzf1scgQB0yTMG+s M3IAn0tjw9pDO+K0603BVq9tA7guwf4v =ad1w -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad426c.9050...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
Re: is this sensible?
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07:40PM +0200, François Patte wrote:
Le 25/06/2014 14:11, Floris a écrit :
Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 14:06:25 +0200 schreef Floris
jkflo...@dds.nl:
Op Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:51:17 +0200 schreef François Patte
francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr:
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Le 25/06/2014 11:01, Weaver a écrit :
On Wed, June 25, 2014 1:57 am, François Patte wrote:
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Le 25/06/2014 10:49, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
On Wednesday 25 June 2014 09:32:22 François Patte wrote:
I wanted to update my gthumb package (wich became ugly
for an unknown reason). So I asked:
apt-get install gthumb
Before installing anything, always update. This is what the
machine is actually trying to do.
Update, so that everything is current, then install the
required package immediately, and you won't have that
trouble. Cheers!
The problem is: why do I have to install, for instance,
gcc-4.9-base gcc-4.9-base:i386 (I don't want to compile
anything...)
why do I have to install these xserver:
xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse xserver-xorg-input-wacom
xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev
xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64
xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-modesetting
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
xserver-xorg-video-nvidia xserver-xorg-video-openchrome
xserver-xorg-video-r128 xserver-xorg-video-radeon
xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tdfx
xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-vesa
xserver-xorg-video-vmware
I have an nvidia graphic card, so, if needed nouveau but I
use the proprietary driver...
Why should I install systemd?
etc. etc.
I just wanted to work with gthumb, but it was broken by a
preceeding update
I waste more time to recover a system than to work
try: #apt-get install --no-install-recommends gthumb
But I think there is a xserver-xorg-input-all and
xserver-xorg-video-all dependency somewhere. Installing
xserver-xorg-input-evdev and xserver-xorg-video-nvidia should
be enough to satisfy all packages
See: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gthumb for a list of
dependencies
for example:
gthumb needs libc6 needs libgcc1 needs gcc-4.7-base
This what is writen as dependencies in packages... OK but I am
wondering why gthumb (and its dependencies) needs to install systemd
That sounds like a challenge :)
gthumb (3:3.3.1-2) depends on:
gsettnings-desktop-schemas depends on:
dconf-gsettings-backend depends on:
dconf-service depends on:
... No, this doesn't look right
libgtk-3.0 (=3.10.0) depends on:
... more libraries...
I don't see anything there that would bring in systemd.
HOWEVER, this is, assuming an otherwise up-to-date system. gthumb *does*
have a number of versioned dependencies (see, for example, the
libgtk-3.0 dependency which states that, to run this version of gthmub,
you need a new enough version of libgtk-3.0). Updating those libraries
will have unforeseen consequences. Updating libgtk-3.0 may violate a
breaks dependency (these are not shown on the website, but I see that
libgtk-3.0 has a Breaks: gnome-themes-standard clause). Your options
then, to solve that breakage, are either to refuse the installation
(not exactly ideal as the user asked for the installation) or to find
an alternate package that replaces the broken package - that might be a
newer version, or it might be something else that replaces the broken
package.
Now, keep going around that circle until you have a final result. Either
you are able to install the package (by upgrading some portion of the
system to bring everything to a consistent state) or, if not, the
package is uninstallable.
Here, I would heartily recommend using aptitude's interactive mode. Ask
aptitude to install gthumb ('/' to search, enter 'gthumb' and press
enter, press 'n' until you find the right package, then press '+' to
mark for installation), then press 'g' to see the proposed changes,
scroll down to systemd and press 'i' until the bottom pane shows why
systemd is being installed.
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Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
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Re: Please help me OT
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/27/2014 01:56 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 01:15:53PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: Makes you wonder how many people who install Debian and have trouble, write to the list but are not subscribed, and therefore do not rec a reply. You notice a couple now and then. Nobody forbids those people to ask to CC them the answer :) True, but someone who doesn't realize they might need to subscribe to the mailing list to automatically receive replies (unless they plan to read replies through e.g. gmane or the like) is also not likely to realize they might need to ask to be CCed on replies. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTrV8VAAoJEASpNY00KDJrbRQP/Aqa0UQGpAr1uQnCdNwfUugL yBpP9/it8xa9d7xYmiyN2abk+5Fc9nKWNCUyOC7QRUgLaF7+oPLlE+odMzG256KM 6/DqTE9YvysfczuudDP9dHA+bp+dC4Nd2JEWUQGTIm9dImcu7d3rwkMWE4IvxmJQ 0HkC5aAFI4hvnV8K6lJ6/RzTldtZdGXiaTprzfIU8UnFV7La3n1ciSEvZjw+tHkP xsD1VuX5IPd7iHXw/NMofP5JtiQa4O/CUFqB+CAcPVp1HU8vXYWmG+4wV0Si8wPC 6AaZqIcZ8PmX9jDL6P2e7LfiSPIT3vm/A2HISo93lTwUxo80UOrDkiB5+wjv4mh1 E4pAUsPdAY8a7XUhHw7e14E7mMpQIvtT5M2NodLTETneXHVbvwKQY6Ezbqb2JhQj OdU7rD5m5vQrI6i6NRrv+jMsgoWxf8TUQQpShDIo6RrXiQfHr/UPST7L68mhjc5j l2qrl7EGJSUgeSRimDT8KCfCKIcZQ8TcSnw4bQzU7P0HBeA3sqUZyG2hEFc8h1nm ql/LdJEnw/Pp10IeTaggNiVTV9N7M5WnlTmmJkZaMIwQk54XI+KibWWlQZw+3e1B FurHVhFLNZSn8PQDalROfpsJkJhpMHtyfL5E4lXJVWOUTUun11klv907/kz0LhZO fVb8h1aeRZL2Vl7LDwK2 =n1Tl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad5f15.8070...@fastmail.fm
Iptables
Hi, I try to authorize the 192.168.0.2 host to connect to samba but the server host 192.168.0.1 won't let me with the following statement : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 139 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 445 -j ACCEPT So I enabled the CIFS profile in UFW, which is more permissive and does work (yes the whole SAMBA configuration is.. :) ). But I'd like to make those iptables rules work as they are more efficient. Any clue ? Thanks -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Iptables
Le vendredi 27 juin 2014 à 14:13:48 +0200, Diogene Laerce a écrit: Hi, Hello. I try to authorize the 192.168.0.2 host to connect to samba but the server host 192.168.0.1 won't let me with the following statement : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 139 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 445 -j ACCEPT So I enabled the CIFS profile in UFW, which is more permissive and does work (yes the whole SAMBA configuration is.. :) ). But I'd like to make those iptables rules work as they are more efficient. Any clue ? I don't know Samba ports very well, but I would try to use the RELATED state ; if, as I guess, connections on ports 139 and 445 are made after others on ports 137 and 138, the RELATED state must be used instead of the NEW state. In fact, using --state NEW-ESTABLISHED is useless, because these cumulated states will match every connection on ports 139 and 445, as TCP packets are always in an ESTABLISHED connection, except the first one which will be NEW. That said, maybe this filter is too strict ; maybe you only need to get these ports opened ; in addition, did you also opened ports for output packets ? That can seem silly, but one can easily forget them without noting. Besides, /32 masks can be omitted in your rules ; without mask, /32 is assumed and I think this should make your commands more readable. Regards. -- David Guyot Administrateur système, réseau et télécommunications / Sysadmin Europe Camions Interactive / Stockway Moulin Collot F-88500 Ambacourt Tel: +33 (0)3 29 30 47 85 Fax : +33 (0)3 29 31 31 31 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Iptables
On Jun 27, 2014 8:14 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 139 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 445 -j ACCEPT Any clue ? Clues, sure. It probably doesn't matter but establishing state in the middle of your rules looks weird. Second, don't silently drop stuff - make a log and drop chain. Last (probably your issue) is you're filtering out broadcasts. But if you log your drops, that'll be very apparent.
Re: is this sensible?
Le 27.06.2014 03:06, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 02:17:47PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 26.06.2014 12:26, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 02:26:03PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: This is the problem with non interactive tools: if you do not master the non interactive tool, you do not have real control on it. If it is non interactive, then how do you master it? Knowing exactly what it does, depending on the parameters you gave it at it's startup? Wouldn't they normally be quantitative parameters? I just thought, this minute, that the *true master* would know what to do if it broke down. Well, the true master just send a butterfly to the right place, and the air movements it made plus their consequences allow to position the correct values on the targeted system. http://xkcd.com/378/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/97a0441eab821deea9210d9172ce4...@neutralite.org
Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy
Im not experienced with Perl so I dont know much about CPAN but on Jessie I have been able to install DBI and the DBD::mysqlPP modules using cpan DBI cpan DBD::mysqlPP however on Wheezy I just get the following... snipped Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good I see you're using perl 5.014002 on i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int, okay. Remember to actually *read* the README file! Use 'make' to build the software (dmake or nmake on Windows). Then 'make test' to execute self tests. Then 'make install' to install the DBI and then delete this working directory before unpacking and building any DBD::* drivers. Writing Makefile for DBI Writing MYMETA.yml TIMB/DBI-1.631.tar.gz make -- NOT OK 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state Running make test Can't test without successful make Running make install Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible Can anyone please enlighten me as to why this works on Jessie but not Wheezy? Thanks Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad86ef.6010...@perpetualmotion.co.uk
Re: rsync of mtp://[usb:001,012]/ ?
Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: Hi. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 06:41:08AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: I have a mobile phone and a kindle fire, both of which can be manually mounted, but they are given names like mtp://[usb:002,042]/ currently the kindle fire. And mtp://[usb:001,012]/ which is the mobile phone. How can I do a rsync backup of them both, or any backup at all really, just in case the martians invade, again! :) If it's really mounted (for example, back in the old days nautilus didn't mount smb shares, although it could access them just fine) - all you need to do is to run 'mount' and examine existing mountpoints. Presumably your devices are mounted either somewhere inside your $HOME, or inside /run/media/$USER. And if you get a mountpoint - it's a simple matter of running 'rsync -Hax $MOUNTPOINT $YOUR_BACKUP'. Neither of them show in mount, although I know that I can mount either using jmtpfs /media/galaxy. But doing that gives a very flakey connection, prone to dropping it or i/o errors. Neither of which are conducive for a successful backup! And currently, only the mobile is showing in 'lsusb' even though the kindle is mounted as well! The mtp protocol/file system is very problematic and doesn't appear to be handled well by linux at the moment, but I return to it every few months in the hope that it has progressed! Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.91.1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy
Sorry just worked this out, the system I was on hadnt had make or g++ install. Whoops On 27/06/2014 15:59, Andrew Wood wrote: Im not experienced with Perl so I dont know much about CPAN but on Jessie I have been able to install DBI and the DBD::mysqlPP modules using cpan DBI cpan DBD::mysqlPP however on Wheezy I just get the following... snipped Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good I see you're using perl 5.014002 on i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int, okay. Remember to actually *read* the README file! Use 'make' to build the software (dmake or nmake on Windows). Then 'make test' to execute self tests. Then 'make install' to install the DBI and then delete this working directory before unpacking and building any DBD::* drivers. Writing Makefile for DBI Writing MYMETA.yml TIMB/DBI-1.631.tar.gz make -- NOT OK 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state Running make test Can't test without successful make Running make install Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible Can anyone please enlighten me as to why this works on Jessie but not Wheezy? Thanks Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad8a65.2080...@perpetualmotion.co.uk
Re: Iptables
Hello, Please don't hijack an existing thread when you open a new topic. You have done this twice on this thread which was originally titled Resizing LVM issue. Diogene Laerce a écrit : Any clue ? Not without knowing the complete ruleset printed by iptables-save, what you do and what happens exactly. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad8ee3.9080...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 03:59:59PM +0100, Andrew Wood wrote: Im not experienced with Perl so I dont know much about CPAN but on Jessie I have been able to install DBI and the DBD::mysqlPP modules using cpan DBI cpan DBD::mysqlPP For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian has a package first, before resorting to CPAN. Debian usually refers to perl modules as libpackage-subpackage-perl (so DBI becomes libdbi-perl, DBB::Mysql becomes libdb-mysql-perl and so on). The advantage of getting the package from Debian is the same as for any other software: updates come in just like any other package, security updates are handled in a stable manner and so on. If you install a package through CPAN, then you have to remember to keep it up to date, you have to handle possible version mismatches and so on. Sometimes you do have to resort to installing from CPAN, but it behooves a good operator to check Debian first :) however on Wheezy I just get the following... snipped Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good I see you're using perl 5.014002 on i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int, okay. Remember to actually *read* the README file! Use 'make' to build the software (dmake or nmake on Windows). Then 'make test' to execute self tests. Then 'make install' to install the DBI and then delete this working directory before unpacking and building any DBD::* drivers. Writing Makefile for DBI Writing MYMETA.yml TIMB/DBI-1.631.tar.gz make -- NOT OK 'YAML' not installed, will not store persistent state Running make test Can't test without successful make Running make install Make had returned bad status, install seems impossible Can anyone please enlighten me as to why this works on Jessie but not Wheezy? Thanks Andrew -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ad86ef.6010...@perpetualmotion.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627161508.gb10...@darac.org.uk
Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote: The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away from both Plymouth and *dm. I hadn't heard of Plymouth. I just googled it and blanched. Thanks for the heads up, Steve! One more reason why I shall avoid *buntu. :-( (The regular sniping at Ubuntu on this list reflects badly on Debian users in general and on this list's users in particular...) There's a lot of crap on the internet about plymouth. Ubuntu defaulted to both plymouth and kms with 10.04 and because one of plymouth's roles is to provide a bootsplash it was blamed for the lack of a pure text console or for video boot problems. There were some purely plymouth problems (for example, it initially wouldn't display a progress bar when a partition was being fsck'd) but the whole anti-plymouth thing is very much overdone. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sweafmwiv9h33erwfgks0wpiaaxwbdedebsuehvof8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reply To settings - was - Re: Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce GUI shutdown and restart do not work
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 1:38 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2014, Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: This is one of those religious wars that has been fought and won and lost many times across the Internet. Please don't start it up again here. If you do really want to do so please use the off-topic mailing list d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org since the issue has nothing to do with using Debian. Given what has already hapened within the thread, the above message to which I am responding, appears to be a troll. Requesting that you take a religious-type discussion (like a list's Reply To settings) to the OT list isn't trolling! see https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/06/msg01187.html wherein on Wed, 18 Jun 2014, Bret Busby wrote: Now, if only the list defaulted to Reply To List, it would be good, and, make replying to the list, easier... But, I believe that this particular issue has very strong feelings on both sides of the debate. and so, iiuc, OP (Bret) was not trying to initiate a discussion of how things (listserv configs, etc) *should* be. instead, it looks to me that OP merely sought to clarify how things actually *are*. So this should've pointed out rather than stupidly calling Bob P a troll. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SyvY+OCxj_g7SiCo1ob1bvb-==ycj+rmydg4sqm6jm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: rsync of mtp://[usb:001,012]/ ?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:11:41 +0100 Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com wrote: Neither of them show in mount, although I know that I can mount either using jmtpfs /media/galaxy. But doing that gives a very flakey connection, prone to dropping it or i/o errors. Neither of which are conducive for a successful backup! And currently, only the mobile is showing in 'lsusb' even though the kindle is mounted as well! The mtp protocol/file system is very problematic and doesn't appear to be handled well by linux at the moment, but I return to it every few months in the hope that it has progressed! I've heard good things about [1]. Not that I've tried it personally, but… Reco [1] https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs PS. I'll check who I'm replying next time. I'll check who I'm replying next time. I'll check who I'm replying next time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627210612.ad4f49d30c4ba25d0a3a0...@gmail.com
Re: Iptables
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: I try to authorize the 192.168.0.2 host to connect to samba but the server host 192.168.0.1 won't let me with the following statement : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 139 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 445 -j ACCEPT So I enabled the CIFS profile in UFW, which is more permissive and does work (yes the whole SAMBA configuration is.. :) ). But I'd like to make those iptables rules work as they are more efficient. Why don't you set up one rule for ESTABLISHED,RELATED and then: -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -s 192.168.0.2 -d 192.168.0.1 \ --dport 137 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m state --state NEW -s 192.168.0.2 -d 192.168.0.1 \ --dport 138 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -s 192.168.0.2 -d 192.168.0.1 \ --dport 139 -j ACCEPT -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp -m state --state NEW -s 192.168.0.2 -d 192.168.0.1 \ --dport 445 -j ACCEPT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=syu-bed64nq12gqrwudpyj64jpggc2vq69gdpccagy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Please help me OT
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 08:09:57 -0400 The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote: Makes you wonder how many people who install Debian and have trouble, write to the list but are not subscribed, and therefore do not rec a reply. You notice a couple now and then. Nobody forbids those people to ask to CC them the answer :) True, but someone who doesn't realize they might need to subscribe to the mailing list to automatically receive replies (unless they plan to read replies through e.g. gmane or the like) is also not likely to realize they might need to ask to be CCed on replies. Correct. In fact [1] can mislead people into thinking that subscribing to the maillist to receive an answer is unnecessary: There are many world-open mailing lists, meaning anyone can read everything that is posted, and participate in the discussions. Well, since one can read such answer via https://lists.debian.org such statement is not THAT far from the truth, but it's probably not that one means writing to the maillist. [1] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627211301.bc0c43c0f9e6e56464cb0...@gmail.com
Re: Synaptic messed up
On 2014-06-27, Maureen L Thomas mthomas9...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: If you use vim, you can just do :%s/stable-updates/wheezy-updates/g Tony I did as you said in vim and got this back E486: Pattern not found: stable-updates You forgot the to put the '%' before the 's' in my opinion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnlqr9h5.2ag.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: rsync of mtp://[usb:001,012]/ ?
On 2014-06-27 04:11:41 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote: Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: [...] The mtp protocol/file system is very problematic and doesn't appear to be handled well by linux at the moment, but I return to it every few months in the hope that it has progressed! This has been my recent experience as well. If you have installed some kind of android recovery in the bootloader, you can ask it to 'mount usb', and then access it like a usb drive. This is cumbersome to do often, so what I normally do is install an ssh server and then use rsync over ssh to backup or transfer files. Quicksshd is what I use to this end: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teslacoilsw.quicksshd MM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627171645.GG4505@lambda.lexicon
Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote: The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away from both Plymouth and *dm. I hadn't heard of Plymouth. I just googled it and blanched. Thanks for the heads up, Steve! One more reason why I shall avoid *buntu. :-( (The regular sniping at Ubuntu on this list reflects badly on Debian users in general and on this list's users in particular...) I don't think so. I think the sniping is well deserved, and unique to bad aspects of Ubuntu. I haven't heard one person gripe about Ubuntu's easy and readable fonts, or Ubuntu's great hardware detection. But when it comes to Plymouth, people gripe. It's the biggest of several reasons I switched to Debian from Ubuntu for my daily driver. There's a lot of crap on the internet about plymouth. Ubuntu defaulted to both plymouth and kms with 10.04 and because one of plymouth's roles is to provide a bootsplash it was blamed for the lack of a pure text console or for video boot problems. OK, here's what I know: My monitor (and please don't tell me to spend $250 for one that does it better) takes several seconds to autodetect a resolution change, including the framebuffer, which Plymouth changes several times during boot. So I miss most of the boot messages. And by the way, the Plymouth-bestowed framebuffer has type too small for me to read well. All I wanted: I mean *ALL* I wanted, was to have my boot messages scroll up the screen as ASCII text like 1999 RedHat. Is that such a huge request? Apparently yes, when Plymouth gets involved. I know, I know, if I understood Grub 2 I could fix all these problems. Yeah, exactly. Grub 2 is one of a long list of softwares that fixed a nonexistent problem and turned their product into an entangled mess of complexity. Gnome2-Gnome3, Gnome2-Unity, Kmail-kmail2, and Grub-Grub2. And of course, when troubleshooting Grub2, every time you want to see results of a change, you need to reboot. What could *possibly* go wrong. And don't forget, when you look on the web for info on how to work with Grub2, you see all sorts of conflicting information. So you know what? Plymouth sux big time, especially when packaged with Grub2 and lightdm (and who knows what systemd will throw into the mix). If I've reflected badly on the list, well gee, I'm sorry, but as a 7 year Ubuntu user, I have more than a passing acquaintance with Plymouth, and I view it as 100% sabotage. There were some purely plymouth problems (for example, it initially wouldn't display a progress bar when a partition was being fsck'd) but the whole anti-plymouth thing is very much overdone. I think the whole pro-plymouth thing is very much overdone. Really, I don't need decorative gegaws or framebuffers on my virtual terminals. I need text I can read, and if there's a boot problem, text I can troubleshoot with. All I want from Linux is something that works, and that I can repair with a few tools. If I wanted pretty, I'd be an Apple guy. If I wanted commodity pseudo-pretty in an entanged mess best maintained with trial and error, I'd get Windows. But I want functional. When you want functional, graphical boots, framebuffer boots, enforced GUI login just get in the way. Plymouth sux! SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627134048.6c49a12a@mydesk
Re: rsync of mtp://[usb:001,012]/ ?
Le 27/06/2014 19:06, Reco a écrit : On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:11:41 +0100 Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com wrote: Neither of them show in mount, although I know that I can mount either using jmtpfs /media/galaxy. But doing that gives a very flakey connection, prone to dropping it or i/o errors. Neither of which are conducive for a successful backup! And currently, only the mobile is showing in 'lsusb' even though the kindle is mounted as well! The mtp protocol/file system is very problematic and doesn't appear to be handled well by linux at the moment, but I return to it every few months in the hope that it has progressed! I've heard good things about [1]. Not that I've tried it personally, but… Reco [1] https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs PS. I'll check who I'm replying next time. I'll check who I'm replying next time. I'll check who I'm replying next time. I also noticed something strange : on my laptop (Lenovo T530), it works only when my phone (Wiko Stairway) is plugged on a USB3 port, but not when it is plugged on a USB2... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53adae79.7040...@rail.eu.org
Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 12:34:54 -0400, Tom H wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:01 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 22 June 2014 01:31:50 Steve Litt wrote: The whole reason I'm switching from Xubuntu to Debian is to get away from both Plymouth and *dm. I hadn't heard of Plymouth. I just googled it and blanched. Thanks for the heads up, Steve! One more reason why I shall avoid *buntu. :-( (The regular sniping at Ubuntu on this list reflects badly on Debian users in general and on this list's users in particular...) I'm glad you said that. The contributions made by Ubuntu developers and users has been (and continues to be) beneficial to Linux in general and Debian in particular. There's a lot of crap on the internet about plymouth. No doubt. I've never been tempted to use it in Debian. maybe it's time for an experiment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627175000.gr29...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Iptables
I try to authorize the 192.168.0.2 host to connect to samba but the server host 192.168.0.1 won't let me with the following statement : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 139 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 445 -j ACCEPT So I enabled the CIFS profile in UFW, which is more permissive and does work (yes the whole SAMBA configuration is.. :) ). But I'd like to make those iptables rules work as they are more efficient. Any clue ? I don't know Samba ports very well, but I would try to use the RELATED state ; if, as I guess, connections on ports 139 and 445 are made after others on ports 137 and 138, the RELATED state must be used instead of the NEW state. In fact, using --state NEW-ESTABLISHED is useless, because these cumulated states will match every connection on ports 139 and 445, as TCP packets are always in an ESTABLISHED connection, except the first one which will be NEW. That said, maybe this filter is too strict ; maybe you only need to get these ports opened ; in addition, did you also opened ports for output packets ? That can seem silly, but one can easily forget them without noting. Besides, /32 masks can be omitted in your rules ; without mask, /32 is assumed and I think this should make your commands more readable I modified in consequence. See below. Clues, sure. It probably doesn't matter but establishing state in the middle of your rules looks weird. Why weird ? Second, don't silently drop stuff - make a log and drop chain. Last (probably your issue) is you're filtering out broadcasts. But if you log your drops, that'll be very apparent It seems that with those modifications made, and a few rebooting (??), the rules now apply and function. I did put a log and drop feature at the end of the INPUT chain and place the same at the end of the OUTPUT one. I saw somewhere that I could manage the flow with the limit module. The rules : # Allow incomings for SAMBA iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m udp -p udp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m udp -p udp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m tcp -p tcp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 139 -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m tcp -p tcp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 445 -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT # LOG AND DROP for INPUT chain iptables -N LOGGING iptables -A INPUT -j LOGGING iptables -A LOGGING -j LOG --log-prefix INPUT-DROPPED : --log-level 7 iptables -A LOGGING -j DROP Please don't hijack an existing thread when you open a new topic. You have done this twice on this thread which was originally titled Resizing LVM issue. I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a new topic of it for light convenience. I didn't know it could do any harm. And actually, I even don't understand how you can know that ? Please explain, I will sleep a bit light less dumber tonight. ;) Thanks to all for stopping by. :) -- One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings. Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable. Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Iptables
That said, maybe this filter is too strict ; maybe you only need to get these ports opened ; in addition, did you also opened ports for output packets ? That can seem silly, but one can easily forget them without noting. Sorry I forgot to reply to you on this : if my readings are ok, I don't think that Samba needs outgoing rules. Well I didn't set any and it's alive ! Regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: ntp problem
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 05:08:52PM +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2014, Rob Owens wrote: Maybe a cron job running ntpdate? it's what I did up to now, (ntpdate or rdate), but the drift became too big, even with a call in cron.hourly Do you still have the cron job enabled? Cheers, Tom -- Oh, I don't blame Congress. If I had $600 billion at my disposal, I'd be irresponsible, too. -- Lichty Wagner signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Iptables
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/27/2014 02:00 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: [that someone else wrote:] Please don't hijack an existing thread when you open a new topic. You have done this twice on this thread which was originally titled Resizing LVM issue. I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a new topic of it for light convenience. I didn't know it could do any harm. And actually, I even don't understand how you can know that ? Please explain, I will sleep a bit light less dumber tonight. ;) Every E-mail or newsgroup post made by a standards-compliant mail program contains a theoretically-unique ID number, called the Message-ID header. When you hit Reply on an E-mail using a modern mail client (and quite a few non-modern ones), in addition to generating a new Message-ID for your reply, the mail client creates another header called In-Reply-To. It copies the Message-ID from the original mail into this new header. Then, when someone receives both the original mail and your reply, their own mail client can use these two headers to figure out that these two mails belong together, in this order. Some mail clients (such as Thunderbird) can use that information to display a nested hierarchy of which mail is a reply to which, which I find very useful; others just use it for conversation view-type sorting; others ignore it entirely. If someone using a mail client which is configured to not ignore that information receives both messages, they will immediately be able to tell that your message is a reply, even if you changed the Subject line. The essential takeaway from this is that if you want to create a new thread on a mailing list or similar public forum, it's not good enough to just hit Reply on an existing mail and change the Subject line; you need to create a New mail instead, and enter the To address separately. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTrbk5AAoJEASpNY00KDJrshQP/079Ksmz3zW/YZzdfklhcu/H EveeoA64yfEhH01eQ0qbU271O3880ZvtmHF4i5P/tKGmbCLqbEd72Gkcni0IW9mf CNfREwlO/B0h7PAJUrKnMRNezcSSv7pTnTSVRgpfT5qbR+I8eGU8slO7PzFCGOV/ U5dRiWM4uXlfs271AIaMCzXpNhqHoq2UFoGX/19rhmt4ule0aW8EIfuErPufoumK +qfD0rVheTuCyXHYAkldMO+znYTXBsLJRsDrtvMltWj78gCBnlEhQxZ9etR0Vg4K KKxfRpaoQ1dKkZfjBt7khdhIhSnknuNBK0IThaBjGqjYkkAeUug5WwtAWCpxrxsf pcPUbs3mCNa6e0sF7SqLWAmQtGhD/H8LZ2uaB9M8Kfl2yWEDxMOMPU9PPvjzclK8 vlcD+RCad1p7VbwYAcIwHkSfh8vEaspg42J30FXzTCDEBqhp8qXjsbjhfbsXD9dR vIjCdNCCd09wUwoNdHZbTbW3UctWsKOkKRmUyzHkXoOE935OQLoC668wQu29abXJ NqiNMoZDHTfcVT2Dgg7dBCJtt2j5DR5Xm8Jram+6a7QTYA79C+3/2JvyrbkYDWLL miNquFma+QsOpXa+ia7H9T9qzbpp/rkhoqMdrWlUQ/k8HHEEeqVd/R986na1dDD5 SXiljMbaaVJK/hFXFo4L =sSeQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53adb939.7020...@fastmail.fm
Re: Iptables
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 08:00:03PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: I try to authorize the 192.168.0.2 host to connect to samba but the server host 192.168.0.1 won't let me with the following statement : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 139 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 445 -j ACCEPT # Allow incomings for SAMBA iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m udp -p udp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m udp -p udp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m tcp -p tcp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 139 -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m tcp -p tcp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 445 -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT The only significant difference I see between these rulesets is in the source and destination addresses. Are you testing these new rules on a different machine, or the same machine? Are you testing with a different remote machine, or the same one as previously? I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a new topic of it for light convenience. I That is exactly what hijacking a thread entails. To start a new thread create a new mail, don't reply to an existing thread and simply change the subject. didn't know it could do any harm. And actually, I even don't understand how you can know that ? Please explain, I will sleep a bit light less dumber tonight. ;) Email programs that understand proper threading show your original message on this subject as being a reply to a message on a completely unrelated thread. Cheers, Tom -- Your present plans will be successful. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Iptables
On 06/27/2014 02:00 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Please don't hijack an existing thread when you open a new topic. You have done this twice on this thread which was originally titled Resizing LVM issue. I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a new topic of it for light convenience. I didn't know it could do any harm. And actually, I even don't understand how you can know that ? Please explain, I will sleep a bit light less dumber tonight. ;) It's in the email headers. Look at at the whole header sometime, there's quite a bit of info in there. In Thunderbird/IceDove : View - Headers - All Among many, many other things, you'll see In reply to. There's also a host of list related stuff like List-Id and List-Unsubscribe headers. List-Id in particular is useful to use for filtering. In Thunderbird/IceDove you'll have to add it as a custom header when setting up the filter, but it's *way* better than trying to filter by the contents of the subject line or to address. Oh, there's also User-Agent, which is how I know you use IceDove. :) Thanks to all for stopping by. :) Thanks for staying. :) - PaulNM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53adb99a.9090...@paulscrap.com
Re: Iptables
Le 27/06/2014 20:34, The Wanderer a écrit : Every E-mail or newsgroup post made by a standards-compliant mail program contains a theoretically-unique ID number, called the Message-ID header. When you hit Reply on an E-mail using a modern mail client (and quite a few non-modern ones), in addition to generating a new Message-ID for your reply, the mail client creates another header called In-Reply-To. It copies the Message-ID from the original mail into this new header. Then, when someone receives both the original mail and your reply, their own mail client can use these two headers to figure out that these two mails belong together, in this order. Some mail clients (such as Thunderbird) can use that information to display a nested hierarchy of which mail is a reply to which, which I find very useful; others just use it for conversation view-type sorting; others ignore it entirely. If someone using a mail client which is configured to not ignore that information receives both messages, they will immediately be able to tell that your message is a reply, even if you changed the Subject line. The essential takeaway from this is that if you want to create a new thread on a mailing list or similar public forum, it's not good enough to just hit Reply on an existing mail and change the Subject line; you need to create a New mail instead, and enter the To address separately. And note that with Icedove (that Diogene uses) you can right click on the address in the header of an existing post and choose send a message to this address, or equivalent (I have a french version). Which will really create a new email. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: rsync of mtp://[usb:001,012]/ ?
Reco recovery...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 16:11:41 +0100 Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com wrote: Neither of them show in mount, although I know that I can mount either using jmtpfs /media/galaxy. But doing that gives a very flakey connection, prone to dropping it or i/o errors. Neither of which are conducive for a successful backup! And currently, only the mobile is showing in 'lsusb' even though the kindle is mounted as well! The mtp protocol/file system is very problematic and doesn't appear to be handled well by linux at the moment, but I return to it every few months in the hope that it has progressed! I've heard good things about [1]. Not that I've tried it personally, but… Reco [1] https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs Thanks, I was able to download a binary from there, go-mtpfs.x86, and made it executable and then ran - ╭ │./go-mtpfs.x86 /media/boudiccas/galaxy ╰ which resulted in this - --8---cut here---start-8--- ./go-mtpfs.x86 /media/boudiccas/galaxy 2014/06/27 19:36:21 starting FUSE 70ad1f3 (2013-02-24 20:42:03 +0100) 2014/06/27 19:36:52 fatal error got type 0 (CONTAINER_UNDEFINED) in response, want CONTAINER_RESPONSE.; closing connection. 2014/06/27 19:36:52 GetObjectHandles failed: got type 0 (CONTAINER_UNDEFINED) in response, want CONTAINER_RESPONSE. 2014/06/27 19:36:57 GetObjectHandles failed: mtp: cannot run operation GetObjectHandles, device is not open --8---cut here---end---8--- So we're only slightly further forward. Any ideas please? Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.3.91.1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: rsync of mtp://[usb:001,012]/ ?
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 19:42:33 +0100 Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com wrote: I've heard good things about [1]. Not that I've tried it personally, but… Reco [1] https://github.com/hanwen/go-mtpfs Thanks, I was able to download a binary from there, go-mtpfs.x86, and made it executable and then ran - ╭ │./go-mtpfs.x86 /media/boudiccas/galaxy ╰ which resulted in this - --8---cut here---start-8--- ./go-mtpfs.x86 /media/boudiccas/galaxy 2014/06/27 19:36:21 starting FUSE 70ad1f3 (2013-02-24 20:42:03 +0100) 2014/06/27 19:36:52 fatal error got type 0 (CONTAINER_UNDEFINED) in response, want CONTAINER_RESPONSE.; closing connection. 2014/06/27 19:36:52 GetObjectHandles failed: got type 0 (CONTAINER_UNDEFINED) in response, want CONTAINER_RESPONSE. 2014/06/27 19:36:57 GetObjectHandles failed: mtp: cannot run operation GetObjectHandles, device is not open --8---cut here---end---8--- So we're only slightly further forward. Any ideas please? Short of installing an FTP(s) server on a phone - no, I'm out of ideas. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627225455.fa365e50ecf42287137fd...@gmail.com
Re: Iptables
On 06/27/2014 08:34 PM, The Wanderer wrote: On 06/27/2014 02:00 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: [that someone else wrote:] Yes I know.. I do that too.. :D Please don't hijack an existing thread when you open a new topic. You have done this twice on this thread which was originally titled Resizing LVM issue. I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a new topic of it for light convenience. I didn't know it could do any harm. And actually, I even don't understand how you can know that ? Please explain, I will sleep a bit light less dumber tonight. ;) Every E-mail or newsgroup post made by a standards-compliant mail program contains a theoretically-unique ID number, called the Message-ID header. When you hit Reply on an E-mail using a modern mail client (and quite a few non-modern ones), in addition to generating a new Message-ID for your reply, the mail client creates another header called In-Reply-To. It copies the Message-ID from the original mail into this new header. Then, when someone receives both the original mail and your reply, their own mail client can use these two headers to figure out that these two mails belong together, in this order. Some mail clients (such as Thunderbird) can use that information to display a nested hierarchy of which mail is a reply to which, which I find very useful; others just use it for conversation view-type sorting; others ignore it entirely. If someone using a mail client which is configured to not ignore that information receives both messages, they will immediately be able to tell that your message is a reply, even if you changed the Subject line. Thanks ! I already feel dumbness leaving my body. :) I didn't find yet how to create such filters or if it would be useful to me, but it's very good to know. Cheers, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Iptables
On 06/27/2014 08:35 PM, Tom Furie wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 08:00:03PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: I try to authorize the 192.168.0.2 host to connect to samba but the server host 192.168.0.1 won't let me with the following statement : iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 139 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED -p tcp -s 192.168.0.2/32 -d 192.168.0.1 --dport 445 -j ACCEPT # Allow incomings for SAMBA iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m udp -p udp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 137 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m udp -p udp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 138 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m tcp -p tcp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 139 -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -m tcp -p tcp -s 192.168.0.11 -d 192.168.0.10 --dport 445 -m state --state RELATED -j ACCEPT The only significant difference I see between these rulesets is in the source and destination addresses. Are you testing these new rules on a different machine, or the same machine? Are you testing with a different remote machine, or the same one as previously? Yes just testing on the same one, with different assignments. I don't know why it's working now but it does. Regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Iptables
The Wanderer a écrit : When you hit Reply on an E-mail using a modern mail client (and quite a few non-modern ones), in addition to generating a new Message-ID for your reply, the mail client creates another header called In-Reply-To. It copies the Message-ID from the original mail into this new header. It also adds the message-ID into the References header, which contains all the thread history, so that missing messages won't break the thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53adc25e.8080...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Iptables
On 06/27/2014 08:36 PM, PaulNM wrote: On 06/27/2014 02:00 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Please don't hijack an existing thread when you open a new topic. You have done this twice on this thread which was originally titled Resizing LVM issue. I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a new topic of it for light convenience. I didn't know it could do any harm. And actually, I even don't understand how you can know that ? Please explain, I will sleep a bit light less dumber tonight. ;) It's in the email headers. Look at at the whole header sometime, there's quite a bit of info in there. In Thunderbird/IceDove : View - Headers - All Among many, many other things, you'll see In reply to. There's also a host of list related stuff like List-Id and List-Unsubscribe headers. List-Id in particular is useful to use for filtering. In Thunderbird/IceDove you'll have to add it as a custom header when setting up the filter, but it's *way* better than trying to filter by the contents of the subject line or to address. I saw it but I don't understand how it could be *way* better than using the address for filtering. And actually how do you use this ? Oh, there's also User-Agent, which is how I know you use IceDove. :) In fact, I use outlook express but it sends the icedove signature to look cool. The Oedipe complex I guess.. Thanks to all for stopping by. :) Thanks for staying. :) :) Cheers, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Iptables
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/27/2014 03:13 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: The Wanderer a écrit : When you hit Reply on an E-mail using a modern mail client (and quite a few non-modern ones), in addition to generating a new Message-ID for your reply, the mail client creates another header called In-Reply-To. It copies the Message-ID from the original mail into this new header. It also adds the message-ID into the References header, which contains all the thread history, so that missing messages won't break the thread. Not all of them do this (or at least once upon a time that was true), but yes, that's used too. It's just less critical for explaining the basic concept. - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTrcbKAAoJEASpNY00KDJrCIgP/2IYskB547+tN1fKwH+kVzI0 aE70pRhVOoTV6m7nW7XFGvWv3WgfCxQN5ze0jOtMFW1brxYUDRmnRB6eDsIf1mXe qPOYsi8cE8yAirrlpCusl++7JaFxnd2Mu+cLDTJHiTh1/SMR7csWH7r/pfpY9Rrw tAzRVBZDEnGmyKsqSoUDf+Oc3fLHxGBjGh5Sj6f9TMD+nKdfhpuFmuxpQPbotZrb 4btmTa4b/op+q2IpKaTAxcgpP8Z2oWXBNMJWtkz4LgfoZ3Yv8L0Yps9n+flup+Gg VUpS6HEcabcMOphkt8EciGwUAcnOLCGWsRMkxf60gCt9Y+sdzDWJq/o3E4r1wm9A Xg2Tn4a28X0vojq+eWJH55qVkmyVwHfChWG7BDKCdgsCF5qbTqHdenwWcf7jiq2n XKgzrNFpley7Xx81f2ctjdwmPtYvuiyAL+n9UNyjrOt1KQxgYXCKCwQP4fL29nD8 EZ0fw8WDHi2khxPa+awEVXe7IrKnHN6n5W0i2QG72rx82o3jYXonDcidMdFiBjbl +sEGk9Q82Gd0khlPJAXe4tdyL98O85GkzfN/vWPWh7XRd8TG9Ie98KXFpsfHuCGp Hkd8VNC0uOw/47FKhnb9thhFNugCQJk8xb/6JSS4bTkxJML0i2LSq2oodWKFyhM0 lXcFmhb/n8L8ZOVUJbSA =O4c0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53adc6ca.5050...@fastmail.fm
overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages
I don't need xserver-xorg-video-mach64 or xserver-xorg-video-r128
to run X on my machine but xserver-xorg-video-radeon comes bundled with
them and xserver-xorg-video-ati. A little experimentation established
that X works fine without xserver-xorg-video-{mach64,r128} but apt-get
complains about the broken ...-ati package and refuses to do anything
else.
I've read the manpages and while dpkg seems to have
'--force-depends' and '--ignore-depends' options I can't see anything
in the apt-get or apt.conf manpages that really helps and putting
each of those two options in the DPkg section of /etc/apt/apt.conf
did no good.
Google results tell how to recover from missing dependancies but I
didn't see any discussion about getting apt to ignore them.
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages
On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:31:38 -0700 Mike McClain mike.j...@nethere.com wrote: I don't need xserver-xorg-video-mach64 or xserver-xorg-video-r128 to run X on my machine but xserver-xorg-video-radeon comes bundled with them and xserver-xorg-video-ati. AFAI see, …ati is a dependency pkg that require _all_ ati servers to be loaded; get rid of it and you'll be able to jettison mach64 r128 without apt complaining. -- Tiphaine: When I grow up, I'll invent a drink called F5! Pierre: ? Tiphaine: Because it refreshes ! :) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Iptables
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 06/27/2014 03:31 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: On 06/27/2014 08:36 PM, PaulNM wrote: On 06/27/2014 02:00 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote: I didn't or at least not on purpose. I just reply to the list on a random message and make a new topic of it for light convenience. I didn't know it could do any harm. And actually, I even don't understand how you can know that ? Please explain, I will sleep a bit light less dumber tonight. ;) It's in the email headers. Look at at the whole header sometime, there's quite a bit of info in there. In Thunderbird/IceDove : View - Headers - All Among many, many other things, you'll see In reply to. There's also a host of list related stuff like List-Id and List-Unsubscribe headers. List-Id in particular is useful to use for filtering. In Thunderbird/IceDove you'll have to add it as a custom header when setting up the filter, but it's *way* better than trying to filter by the contents of the subject line or to address. I saw it but I don't understand how it could be *way* better than using the address for filtering. And actually how do you use this ? It's better because: * The List-ID header appears only in messages from the list, and in every message from the list. * The List-ID header should theoretically never change, even if the mailing list address changes (which can happen if, e.g., it moves to be hosted by a different server). * The list E-mail address can appear in different headers (From, To, CC, et cetera - sometimes depending on the mailing list, sometimes just depending on the particular mail), and it's harder to properly filter on multiple headers than on just one. * In some cases (I haven't figured them all out yet), the list E-mail address may not appear in the message at all. * If you post to a mailing list, and someone hits Reply All on your post, you will get two copies of the reply (unless your mail provider filters one out, which has disadvantages). Both copies will include the list's E-mail address somewhere, but only one of them actually came through the list, so only one of them should be caught by the filter - and only one of them will have the List-ID header. And actually how do you use this ? That depends on your mail client. I know how to do it in Thunderbird 2, and it's almost certainly very similar in current Thunderbird / Icedove, but I don't have a functional Icedove instance nearby to give exact directions. Oh, there's also User-Agent, which is how I know you use IceDove. :) In fact, I use outlook express but it sends the icedove signature to look cool. The Oedipe complex I guess.. That's... really weird, because your User-Agent header reads: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.6.0 Which not only mentions the absolutely most current release version of Icedove - even though Outlook Express hasn't seen a new release in years last I heard - but also claims that you're using 64-bit Linux. (And Outlook Express barely runs on modern Windows AFAIK, much less on Linux.) - -- The Wanderer Secrecy is the beginning of tyranny. A government exists to serve its citizens, not to control them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTrcuHAAoJEASpNY00KDJrN5cP/RnVROlozvzSiVIiiKq2Fljp OThSH6NxHHc6RexZPOh6RkqvtyL/xNM9W8Y5EjZnR/4RdtvcpPhs+YpPPnoT2QbZ BCcxIPnrZK6dCT2MftOB9bTbG35TsSW1shtZxCbq6+x/Z111h29u/d5hrK/puh9m aC4tdYc+uT2C6JwttrQMB71tkGTwqDu2i3gPUWQVwkG9XOQ1eoZ7DNbJwITzmSgl pmfJlUNL9lLluGftdNDYd6dRIS1n+V2r4V+RzdLi/Va46r/O4ejLXsJ9Qjy4Pu3w BgzD9HPDfUE06HKciFbAYKfY1hrlYfYDRPhZR8CtPHxhmY/luX8Go022Lbk/mAzP /ZQHzc0KsxS43igHEP/JrJf/SgWAXQzIonznoRql44kIqKVNTsfj6gNf5ORD5PR9 LNcbPLRokrkrfyNMjsZ8gmZpYyYrZYvA7TvzLIeGpcwH+lSqQTaQpozC+naoJmWn +tMGzAKOHb/cx4pWrmhkWQcF+IVUMTM0ScpXBGmWs8jeF5b+5NEZvkz+j8VHjOBC U5r8tsBTY7/ve9obiAPvPG5273Vubrf8V0/WkbxhE8d14eqfbeYGHzt2V0QaZfpz Z/T03zkAH5bjodXUOHHb6NkCH6gsDMz7204etEmoeDor+7t/fBwfNFpcrGvFK4/5 E3TTPLBAy8nHN/n2vOsf =PRw3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53adcb87.5080...@fastmail.fm
Re: overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages
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On 06/27/2014 03:31 PM, Mike McClain wrote:
I don't need xserver-xorg-video-mach64 or xserver-xorg-video-r128 to
run X on my machine but xserver-xorg-video-radeon comes bundled with
them and xserver-xorg-video-ati.
What do you mean by comes bundled with, here?
Looking at the package dependencies in current Debian testing,
installing xserver-xorg-video-ati should get you
xserver-xorg-video-radeon, but not the other way around.
If you run 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-{radeon,ati-}', it should
install the former and remove the latter, without breaking anything.
A little experimentation established that X works fine without
xserver-xorg-video-{mach64,r128} but apt-get complains about the
broken ...-ati package and refuses to do anything else.
What exactly did you do to produce this result?
I'm guessing that you removed those two packages using
dpkg -r xserver-xorg-video-mach64
dpkg -r xserver-xorg-video-r128
but didn't touch xserver-xorg-video-ati itself.
If you explicitly install xserver-xorg-video-radeon as above, you
shouldn't need xserver-xorg-video-ati at all.
Google results tell how to recover from missing dependancies but I
didn't see any discussion about getting apt to ignore them.
The only way to get apt to ignore dependencies, that I know of, is to
remove the dependencies from the packages apt is tracking - in other
words, to rebuild the .debs without those dependencies. There's no way
to do it at runtime AFAIK.
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Re: overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages
On 2014-06-27 21:58 +0200, The Wanderer wrote:
On 06/27/2014 03:31 PM, Mike McClain wrote:
I don't need xserver-xorg-video-mach64 or xserver-xorg-video-r128 to
run X on my machine but xserver-xorg-video-radeon comes bundled with
them and xserver-xorg-video-ati.
What do you mean by comes bundled with, here?
Looking at the package dependencies in current Debian testing,
installing xserver-xorg-video-ati should get you
xserver-xorg-video-radeon, but not the other way around.
If you run 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-{radeon,ati-}', it should
install the former and remove the latter, without breaking anything.
Except that the X server will not autoload the radeon driver, so that an
/etc/X11/xorg.conf file becomes necessary[1].
Cheers,
Sven
1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=655693
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Re: overcoming apt's resistance to broken packages
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On 06/27/2014 04:17 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2014-06-27 21:58 +0200, The Wanderer wrote:
On 06/27/2014 03:31 PM, Mike McClain wrote:
I don't need xserver-xorg-video-mach64 or xserver-xorg-video-r128
to run X on my machine but xserver-xorg-video-radeon comes
bundled with them and xserver-xorg-video-ati.
What do you mean by comes bundled with, here?
Looking at the package dependencies in current Debian testing,
installing xserver-xorg-video-ati should get you
xserver-xorg-video-radeon, but not the other way around.
If you run 'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-{radeon,ati-}', it
should install the former and remove the latter, without breaking
anything.
Except that the X server will not autoload the radeon driver, so that
an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file becomes necessary[1].
Well, that sucks.
I agree with Josh Triplett that autodetection looking only for 'ati'
rather than for the individual modules which 'ati' can implicitly load
is a bug that should be fixed. (The point of doing so - questioned in
the last comment on that bug report - would be to allow the obvious
'apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon' from a system that
previously didn't have X to Just Work, and to allow people to only
install the module for the card they actually have, not the ones for the
cards they don't have.)
Unfortunately, that bug report has been open and (apparently)
unaddressed since early 2012, so it's not looking likely to get changed
any time soon...
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Re: dhclient changes IP address
Hi Bob, thanks for your response. On Monday 23 June 2014 01:58:33 Bob Proulx wrote: Rainer Dorsch wrote: my fritz.box is a DSL router from AVM, which unfortunately does not give me access to syslog. Oh. I didn't realize that. The way you talked about it I thought it was another Debian system. What I noticed is that 192.168.178.87 shows up without MAC address in the list of network devices of the fritz.box That is almost certainly an important clue to the problem. I think I will try first to get support from AVM on that topic. Good luck! However I am pessimistic about support from companies. In general they like to sell you things but unless you are a notable customer with deep pockets they tend not to want to spend time supporting you. Every vendor is unique however. In general a dhcp server will always assign the same IP address to the same client. Everyone knows this is based upon the client ethernet address. But many people do not know this is also based upon the uid the client offers. (It might be client hostname. I don't remember and have no time to research the precise thing.) If a client offers different uids then the dhcp server is obligated to assign a different IP address. The idea was that a multiple booting system would have different uids and wouldn't share the same IP address even though it had the same ethernet hardware address. That is interesting information. The manpage of dhclient contains some references on that. Is it possible that your client is somehow producing a DHCP request but using different client parameters with the different requests and therefore receiving different IP assignments in return? Since you are getting different IP assignments and it must be for some reason then I suspect this possible case. Assuming that the dhcp server is standards conforming. Do you keep getting different IP assignments every day? Actually the lease time is 8 days and I am still re-booting more frequently ;-) Another non-standard behavior might be that the system (Cubox-i) has no RTC, i.e. when the system boots, it always thinks it is in Jan 1st, 1970. Then when NTP eventually updated the time (and even then some hours later) it request once a new IP address. I have seen that it go in the first assignment 192.168.178.87 and then changes to 192.168.178.88 and the other way round. Here are the logs from the client side: root@bokocube:/var/log# zgrep dhclient syslog.5.gz syslog.4.gz syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:07 bokocube dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth0/d0:63:b4:00:32:5c syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:07 bokocube dhclient: Sending on LPF/eth0/d0:63:b4:00:32:5c syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:07 bokocube dhclient: Sending on Socket/fallback syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:07 bokocube dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube NetworkManager[333]: info dhclient started with pid 429 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.3.0 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: Copyright 2004-2014 Internet Systems Consortium. syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: All rights reserved. syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/ syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: Listening on LPF/eth0/d0:63:b4:00:32:5c syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: Sending on LPF/eth0/d0:63:b4:00:32:5c syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: Sending on Socket/fallback syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:10 bokocube dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:11 bokocube dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:11 bokocube dhclient: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.178.1 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:11 bokocube dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.178.1 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:11 bokocube dhclient: bound to 192.168.178.88 -- renewal in 379228 seconds. syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:11 bokocube dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:11 bokocube dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.178.1 syslog.5.gz:Jan 1 01:00:11 bokocube dhclient: bound to 192.168.178.88 -- renewal in 418840 seconds. syslog.4.gz:Jun 23 03:45:01 bokocube dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 7 syslog.4.gz:Jun 23 03:45:01 bokocube dhclient: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 syslog.4.gz:Jun 23 03:45:02 bokocube dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 syslog.4.gz:Jun 23 03:45:02 bokocube dhclient: DHCPOFFER from 192.168.178.1 syslog.4.gz:Jun 23 03:45:02 bokocube dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.178.1 syslog.4.gz:Jun 23 03:45:02 bokocube dhclient: bound to 192.168.178.88 -- renewal in 415195 seconds. syslog.4.gz:Jun 23 03:45:02 bokocube dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 255.255.255.255
White screen appears with new password check under X
I recently upgraded my sid system. Occasionally (for example after unplugging the power and ethernet cable) I will get a completely white screen. As I type, a colored circle appears in the middle. It is checking for my user password. I am not using xdm and friends, just startx. Can someone tell me what software is responsible for this? TIA Joel Roth -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627211409.GA5504@sprite
Re: Iptables
On 06/27/2014 03:31 PM, Diogene Laerce wrote:
On 06/27/2014 08:36 PM, PaulNM wrote:
In Thunderbird/IceDove you'll have to add it as a custom header when
setting up the filter, but it's *way* better than trying to filter by
the contents of the subject line or to address.
I saw it but I don't understand how it could be *way* better than using
the address for filtering. And actually how do you use this ?
The Wanderer listed quite a few good reasons, including some I hadn't
thought of. Previously, I had to create filters moving messages based
on subject. For example, some lists I'm on prepend every email's subject
line with {ListName}. A problem is when I forward a message to a
friend, their reply would get filtered into the folder I use for the
mailing list, even though it never went to the mailing list. List-Id
based filtering makes it obvious when someone replies directly to you.
Real fun comes when someone forwards a message from one mailing list to
another. If they both do the above subject line munging, and you have
filters for both, the things get interesting. All messages end up in
whichever filter runs first, regardless of actual mailing list origin.
Also, many technically-oriented mailing lists (like Debian's) don't do
that, as they try to avoid mail munging.
In the Thunderbird/IceDove new filter dialog box, the default is to
match on subject. If you click on subject, at the very bottom of the
list is Customize. That brings in a box where you can add headers to
filter by. After that point, it'll show up in the same list as
Subject/From/Body/etc.
Oh, there's also User-Agent, which is how I know you use IceDove. :)
In fact, I use outlook express but it sends the icedove signature to
look cool. The Oedipe complex I guess..
Odd, I just double-checked. All of your messages to the list in June are
similar, the only difference being a minor version bump. I suspect you
were joking?
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.5.0
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.6.0
For those interested, there's a pretty neat extension (Display Mail User
Agent) that'll put a large icon in the header area of the screen showing
what email client the sender used. It's slightly out of date, so some
of the icon are a little old. There's a way to use a .csv to change the
icons if you really want to, though.
- PaulNM
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USB 3.0 support
I'm running Jessie on a Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P board with an AMD FX6100 processor. The board has USB 3.0 ports on the back that don't seem to work. I have an Eagle Consus external case with a WD Red drive in it. This is advertised as supporting USB 3.0, and comes with a cable that has a different device end than I'm used to seeing with USB 2.0 devices. However, when I plug it into the USB 3.0 ports, it doesn't show up. When I plug it into the USB 2.0 ports, it does. I've had similar experiences with USB 3.0 flash drives. When I first installed this motherboard, I was having problems with it, trying to get the USB ports to work at all. It seemed like the USB2 or USB3 ports would work but not at the same time. Moreover, the setting also seemed to affect the onboard LAN controller. Anyway, I've been working with just USB2 ports for some time but want to connect the external drive at full USB3 speeds. There are BIOS settings dealing with USB that include onboard USB and USB controllers (enable/disable) - both enabled. USB legacy support (enable/disable) - enabled. And XHCI EHCI handoff (enable/disable) - both enabled. I'm getting some XHCI and EHCI messages which seem to indicate that the XHCI driver is failing to load: [ 19.266657] xhci_hcd :02:00.0: can't setup: -110 [ 19.266705] xhci_hcd :02:00.0: USB bus 1 deregistered [ 19.266758] xhci_hcd :02:00.0: init :02:00.0 fail, -110 [ 19.266764] Switched to clocksource tsc [ 19.266821] xhci_hcd: probe of :02:00.0 failed with error -110 [ 19.267761] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated [ 19.328206] ehci-pci :00:12.2: EHCI Host Controller [ 19.328221] ehci-pci :00:12.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 [ 19.328229] ehci-pci :00:12.2: applying AMD SB700/SB800/Hudson-2/3 EHCI dummy qh workaround [ 19.328242] ehci-pci :00:12.2: debug port 1 [ 19.328298] ehci-pci :00:12.2: irq 17, io mem 0xfeb09000 [ 19.339809] ehci-pci :00:12.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00 [ 19.339968] usb usb1: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002 [ 19.339975] usb usb1: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 [ 19.339980] usb usb1: Product: EHCI Host Controller [ 19.339984] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ehci_hcd [ 19.339987] usb usb1: SerialNumber: :00:12.2 [ 19.340262] hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 19.340286] hub 1-0:1.0: 5 ports detected [ 19.403941] hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 19.403969] hub 2-0:1.0: 5 ports detected [ 19.404954] usb 3-5: USB disconnect, device number 2 [ 19.444516] ehci-pci :00:13.2: EHCI Host Controller [ 19.444532] ehci-pci :00:13.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 6 [ 19.444543] ehci-pci :00:13.2: applying AMD SB700/SB800/Hudson-2/3 EHCI dummy qh workaround [ 19.444581] ehci-pci :00:13.2: debug port 1 [ 19.444619] ehci-pci :00:13.2: irq 17, io mem 0xfeb07000 [ 19.455871] ehci-pci :00:13.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00 [ 19.456023] usb usb6: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002 [ 19.456031] usb usb6: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 [ 19.456035] usb usb6: Product: EHCI Host Controller [ 19.456039] usb usb6: Manufacturer: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ehci_hcd [ 19.456042] usb usb6: SerialNumber: :00:13.2 [ 19.456290] hub 6-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 19.456304] hub 6-0:1.0: 5 ports detected [ 19.519973] hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 19.519988] hub 3-0:1.0: 5 ports detected [ 19.584139] ehci-pci :00:16.2: EHCI Host Controller [ 19.584152] ehci-pci :00:16.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 7 [ 19.584163] ehci-pci :00:16.2: applying AMD SB700/SB800/Hudson-2/3 EHCI dummy qh workaround [ 19.584176] ehci-pci :00:16.2: debug port 1 [ 19.584213] ehci-pci :00:16.2: irq 17, io mem 0xfeb04000 [ 19.595915] ehci-pci :00:16.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00 [ 19.595973] usb usb7: New USB device found, idVendor=1d6b, idProduct=0002 [ 19.595978] usb usb7: New USB device strings: Mfr=3, Product=2, SerialNumber=1 [ 19.595981] usb usb7: Product: EHCI Host Controller [ 19.595985] usb usb7: Manufacturer: Linux 3.14-1-amd64 ehci_hcd [ 19.595988] usb usb7: SerialNumber: :00:16.2 [ 19.596231] hub 7-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 19.596243] hub 7-0:1.0: 4 ports detected [ 19.660026] hub 5-0:1.0: USB hub found [ 19.660041] hub 5-0:1.0: 4 ports detected I'm also getting a lot of messages similar to: [1.442345] AMD-Vi: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT device=02:00.0 domain=0x0015 address=0xbea106c0 flags=0x0010] that show up before the xhci_hcd messages. Any ideas anyone? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ade666.6080...@torfree.net
Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?
On Fri 27 Jun 2014 at 13:40:48 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 12:34:54 -0400 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: (The regular sniping at Ubuntu on this list reflects badly on Debian users in general and on this list's users in particular...) I don't think so. I think the sniping is well deserved, and unique to bad aspects of Ubuntu. I haven't heard one person gripe about Ubuntu's easy and readable fonts, or Ubuntu's great hardware detection. But when it comes to Plymouth, people gripe. It's the biggest of several reasons I switched to Debian from Ubuntu for my daily driver. Debian's plymouth man page says that the option 'splash' is required on the kernel command line for the configured default theme to be loaded during boot. It follows from that that removing 'splash' from the command line means booting doesn't use the default theme. You switched from Ubuntu to Debian because it was easier than changing the command line option? There's a lot of crap on the internet about plymouth. Ubuntu defaulted to both plymouth and kms with 10.04 and because one of plymouth's roles is to provide a bootsplash it was blamed for the lack of a pure text console or for video boot problems. OK, here's what I know: My monitor (and please don't tell me to spend $250 for one that does it better) takes several seconds to autodetect a resolution change, including the framebuffer, which Plymouth changes several times during boot. So I miss most of the boot messages. And by the way, the Plymouth-bestowed framebuffer has type too small for me to read well. All I wanted: I mean *ALL* I wanted, was to have my boot messages scroll up the screen as ASCII text like 1999 RedHat. Is that such a huge request? Apparently yes, when Plymouth gets involved. If you couldn't find out how to disable plymouth, well... I know, I know, if I understood Grub 2 I could fix all these problems. Yeah, exactly. Grub 2 is one of a long list of softwares that fixed a nonexistent problem and turned their product into an entangled mess of If you do not understand grub you obviously don't know what real problems it fixed. This is just a case of putting the boot in. complexity. Gnome2-Gnome3, Gnome2-Unity, Kmail-kmail2, and Grub-Grub2. Seems like a both boot job is in progress. And of course, when troubleshooting Grub2, every time you want to see results of a change, you need to reboot. What could Grub is a *boot loader*. What do you expect it to do? Mind read? *possibly* go wrong. And don't forget, when you look on the web for info on how to work with Grub2, you see all sorts of conflicting information. Ill-informed information always conflicts with good information. info grub helps you to discriminate. So you know what? Plymouth sux big time, especially when packaged with Grub2 and lightdm (and who knows what systemd will throw into the mix). Your boots have got into top gear here and increased their kicking rate. What have lightdm and the poor old systemd done to deserve your ire? If I've reflected badly on the list, well gee, I'm sorry, but as a 7 year Ubuntu user, I have more than a passing acquaintance with Plymouth, and I view it as 100% sabotage. 7 years? And you didn't find out how to disable it? There were some purely plymouth problems (for example, it initially wouldn't display a progress bar when a partition was being fsck'd) but the whole anti-plymouth thing is very much overdone. I think the whole pro-plymouth thing is very much overdone. Really, I don't need decorative gegaws or framebuffers on my virtual terminals. I need text I can read, and if there's a boot problem, text I can troubleshoot with. Syslog. All I want from Linux is something that works, and that I can repair with a few tools. If I wanted pretty, I'd be an Apple guy. If I wanted commodity pseudo-pretty in an entanged mess best maintained with trial and error, I'd get Windows. But I want functional. When you want These boots really were made for kicking. functional, graphical boots, framebuffer boots, enforced GUI login just get in the way. Plymouth sux! Plymouth can be disabled at boot time by removing splash from the kernel command line. Removing quiet may also be a good thing. I hope this technical information helps you if you ever go back to Ubuntu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627224846.gs29...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Synaptic messed up
On 06/27/2014 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 26 June 2014 23:55:55 Maureen L Thomas wrote: On 06/26/2014 05:40 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib # wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile' # A network mirror was not selected during install. The following entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate # for your mirror of choice. # # debhttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib debhttp://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main debhttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free deb-srchttp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main non-free debhttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main deb-srchttp://debian.cc.lehigh.edu/debian/ wheezy-updates main # deb-srchttp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib This is what I got when I did $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list Sorry for delay. Different time-zones! That needs sorting! I should have asked: What GUI/DE (Graphical User Interface/Desktop Environment) are you using? (So I know what editors you are likely to have. Yes, this can be done with Vi/Vim, but doesn't need to be.) You need to edit that! I don't wonder that Synaptic is a little confused! The beginnings of all the lines are all run together. It is also all over the shop. Dealing with it can be quite easy. Just let us know the answer to the above question. Lisi I use Gnome 3. This is a new problem since I have used Debian for about 18 months and have never had this problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ae04cf.5040...@tampabay.rr.com
Re: Synaptic messed up
On 06/27/2014 01:13 PM, Curt wrote: On 2014-06-27, Maureen L Thomas mthomas9...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: If you use vim, you can just do :%s/stable-updates/wheezy-updates/g Tony I did as you said in vim and got this back E486: Pattern not found: stable-updates You forgot the to put the '%' before the 's' in my opinion. No I used the % sign. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ae0723.5090...@tampabay.rr.com
Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...] Grub is a *boot loader*. Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more. What do you expect it to do? Mind read? I'd almost say that's one of the things the devs are trying to make it do. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caar43im_feyy0eyelpzhgq5j_2g3xsdkxx05bdbc2pkl1b5...@mail.gmail.com
Media Server?
I'm running Debian Wheezy. Let me know what other info you need. I finally got the window box to read my Debian machine. Debian has been reading Windows forever. Just got a new TV and have it connected via WiFi to router. It can read media files (images, music, video) on the windows box but it can't see anything on the Linux machine. Do I need to still work on Samba or set up some type of Media Server or what. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ae1642.2050...@yahoo.com
Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads
I can't install Debian. The USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads. I bought a used MPC computer that only has USB ports -- No PS/2 ports. The machine currently has Windows installed. When installing Debian, it is required to press a button during the boot sequence in order to load a kernel. I have tried numerous times to install Debian, but since the keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads I can't press any buttons during boot. I have also never been able to get into CMOS for the same reason. I installed the Debian install into the Windows bootloader from the DVD and also booted the DVD directly. I must press a key during boot to activate. Is it my keyboard maybe or the mobo that is causing the problem? My Keyboard is AZZA brand, model KME381U Mobo is INTEL DESKTOP BOARD and E210882 Computer is an MPC CLIENTPRO 385
Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads
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Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900 Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...] Grub is a *boot loader*. Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more. What do you expect it to do? Mind read? I'd almost say that's one of the things the devs are trying to make it do. I have a feeling that a lot of this thread got procmailed to my /dev/null, but for the person who asked what I wanted it to do, that's simple: Boot the damn computer with a menu to choose predefined kernel/initrd/disk combinations, and nothing else. And for gosh sakes, keep it in one file. If a config option is about pretty, leave that feature out. In other words, grub1. SteveT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140627231426.0422e...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Re: Is grub perfect? (was Re: Does LXDE really require lightdm?)
On Saturday, June 28, 2014 8:50:01 AM UTC+5:30, slitt wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014 09:33:57 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:48 AM, [...]
Grub is a *boot loader*.
Lately (last few years), it seems to be trying to do a lot more.
What do you expect it to do? Mind read?
I'd almost say that's one of the things the devs are trying to make
it do.
I have a feeling that a lot of this thread got procmailed to
my /dev/null, but for the person who asked what I wanted it to do,
that's simple: Boot the damn computer with a menu to choose predefined
kernel/initrd/disk combinations, and nothing else. And for gosh sakes,
keep it in one file. If a config option is about pretty, leave that
feature out.
In other words, grub1.
As Brian pointed out nosplash and remove quiet on the kernel line helps.
Brings me to the more general/philosophical point:
Yes grub2 unlike grub1 puts its setup in half-a-dozen files and expects a
'compilation' model: the SHOUTING
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
at the top of grub.cfg and all...
Over time Ive leart to ignore (or take with some pinch of salt) that stricture:
In particular I have a 'real' mbr grub in its own partition whose grub.cfg
I hand-edit with some care (and half-knowledge!)
Then there are the grubs in each of the roots of the each of the linuxes.
These are for the linuxes to manage when upgrades happen
The first (not mounted by default) connects to the second with
entries like so:
[requires labels to be set up. Use UUIDs to taste if desired]
menuentry Debian 64 configfile {
search --set --label Deb64
configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
}
menuentry Debian old configfile {
search --set --label DebOld
configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
}
menuentry Ubuntu 64bit configfile {
search --set --label Ubuntu64
configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg
}
PS. No I am not defending grub2 -- I find its documentation almost
non-existent -- just my survival strategies :-)
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Re: USB 3.0 support
On 06/27/14 14:47, Gary Dale wrote: This may not be revelant, but, I had a problem with USB 3.0 devices under Ubuntu. I traced that to a linux USB bug. I think I still see artifacts of USB problems in both Ubuntu and Debian. [Bug 1151622] Re: 050d:0237 [ASUS P9X79 PRO] The usb driver appears to fail on launchpad. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ae35ba.60...@wavecable.com
Re: Problems installing Perl modules with CPAN on Wheezy
On 06/27/2014 09:15 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: For the record, you might find it more useful to check if Debian has a package first, before resorting to CPAN. +1 I've destabilized Debian stable with non-Debian software, including CPAN modules. Now I am loath to install anything except via 'apt-get'. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53ae43c5.9040...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Can't install Debian - USB keyboard doesn't turn on until Windows loads
Yes. I have previously searched and found such things like this: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/CS-023466.htm It says... Check for and enable USB Legacy Support: 1. Attach a PS/2 keyboard to the computer and boot the system. 2. Enter BIOS Setup by pressing [F2] during boot. 3. Go to the Advanced USB Configuration menu. 4. Set Legacy USB Support to Enabled. (May be listed as USB Legacy) 5. Exit and save changes [F10]. Any USB mouse or keyboard should now work in DOS mode. HOWEVER... _This_mobo_does_not_have_a_PS/2_keyboard_or_mouse_connector._ I can only use USB keyboards and mice with it. The keyboard does not work until _after_ Windows loads. If I boot the Debian install DVD, the menu comes up, but I am unable to press any buttons because the USB keyboard driver is not loaded or something similar. So, what I think I need to do is find a way to get the Debian install DVD to bypass the need to press a key until such time that a USB keyboard driver loads or something like that. OR... How do I tell the Windows bootloader to load the Linux kernel instead of booting Windows? This might work to get me past the point where the USB keyboard will work. However, if the keyboard doesn't start working after the kernel loads, then I'm stuck and won't be able to do anything with the computer. On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 8:32 PM, B lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2014 20:12:11 -0600 Kitty Cat realizar.la@gmail.com wrote: MPC CLIENTPRO 385 There are plenty of answers on… search engines (even how to access the BIOS on a MPC). -- M.AimeDormir : So, how is it going with your new boyfriend? AoiSora : Super great, I love him! He'll be the father of my children and grand children! M.AimeDormir : That is so filthy… :c
