Re: problema de seguretat a USB
Segons he llegit avui, sembla que es totalment indetectable, ja que aprofita el firmware i actua quan l'equip interroga al dispositiu sobre que i qui es. Quan te n'adones ja ha fet la feina. *Xavier De Yzaguirre* xdeyzaguirre(at)gmail(dot)com El dia 4 setembre de 2014 17:03, Josep Lladonosa jllad...@gmail.com ha escrit: Gràcies per compartir. Al firmware! A Linux només trobo perill si s'executen coses des d'un usb o que hagin passat per aquest. On 4 Sep 2014 16:28, Pedro pederi...@gmail.com wrote: Algú té més informació sobre això? [anglès] http://www.wired.com/2014/07/usb-security/ [castellà] http://www.omicrono.com/2014/07/un-fallo-de-usb-convierte-cualquier-dispositivo-usb-en-un-arma-para-hackers/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cabr7qmreld7a-mk4bdpkbdaum7fzja5hhuq_mmxllptmi...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problema de seguretat a USB
El dia 5 setembre de 2014 23:23, Xavier De Yzaguirre i Maura xdeyzagui...@gmail.com ha escrit: Segons he llegit avui, sembla que es totalment indetectable, ja que aprofita el firmware i actua quan l'equip interroga al dispositiu sobre que i qui es. Quan te n'adones ja ha fet la feina. Sabeu en que es diferencia del que va sortir ja fa uns anys sobre fer un USB, que sense forma de teclat ni de ratoli, actues com a teclat / ratoli enviant certes combinacions a la màquina L'explicació teòrica: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=security/plug-and-prey-malicious-usb-devices#2.5_Programmable_HID_USB_Keyboard_Dongle_Devices El dispositiu (per 30$) https://hakshop.myshopify.com/products/usb-rubber-ducky-deluxe -- * Ermengol * * * Els ordinadors no resolen problemes, * * simplement executen solucions * *
Rép : problema de seguretat a USB
un article en francés http://www.futura-sciences.com/magazines/high-tech/infos/actu/d/securite-usb-decouverte-vulnerabilite-impossible-corriger-54740/#xtor=EPR-17-[QUOTIDIENNE]-20140807-[ACTU-USB-:-decouverte-d-une-vulnerabilite-impossible-a-corriger] la font de l'investigacio en Alemanya https://srlabs.de/badusb/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bf9dce1f-b95a-4b40-861c-28bead800...@tinet.cat
Re: [RÉSOLU] Gérer l'envoi des rapports de cron
Le 4 sept. 2014 à 12:06, Adrien cont...@creasixtine.com a écrit : Le 04/09/2014 10:26, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Le jeudi 04 septembre 2014, Pierre Malard a écrit... Une solution est donc de s’assurer que les lancements cron soient silencieux. Éventuellement, on peut encapsuler cette commande, si elle est trop bavarde, dans un script d’analyse qui se charge soit d’envoyer lui-même le mail d’alerte, Sinon, tu envoies le résultat de la commande à /dev/null, ce qui va la rendre silencieuse, pour le meilleur et pour le pire. Éventuellement, comme précisé dans le reste du message (que j'ai coupé), ne renvoyer que la sortie standard vers /dev/null, et conserver la sortie d'erreur en l'état. Bonjour Jean-Michel et Pierre, Merci pour vos réponses. Suite à mon premier message, j'avais effectivement modifié les commandes pour envoyer toutes les sorties standard vers le GPSF (Grand Puits Sans Fond, /dev/null). Et effectivement je n'ai plus qu'un seul Cron qui me rappelle à son bon souvenir, car il tombe en erreur. Une solution un peu comme le verre d’alcool, il faut se méfier des abus. C’est un peu comme casser le thermomètre pour résoudre un problème de température… Personnellement, je préfère la solution proposée par Jean-Michel. Elle est plus raisonnable. Cordialement -- Pierre Malard « On ne peut pas pousser à fond l'éducation politique et l'éducation tout court de masses sans l'accompagner d'un développement économique, culturel et social parallèle. » Romain Gary - Les racines du ciel |\ _,,,---,,_ /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) πr perl -e '$_=q#: 3|\ 5_,3-3,2_: 3/,`.'''`''' 5-. ;-;;,_: |,A- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'''-''': '''-3'''2(_/--''' `-'''\_): 24πr::#;y#:#\n#;s#(\D)(\d+)#$1x$2#ge;print' - -- Ce message n’engage que son auteur -- signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [RÉSOLU] Gérer l'envoi des rapports de cron
Le 05/09/2014 08:25, Pierre Malard a écrit : Une solution un peu comme le verre d’alcool, il faut se méfier des abus. C’est un peu comme casser le thermomètre pour résoudre un problème de température… Personnellement, je préfère la solution proposée par Jean-Michel. Elle est plus raisonnable. Tu as raison. Par ailleurs, il s'agit pour la plupart de sauvegardes git. Pour info : les commandes git-pull, git-commit et git-push ont des options --quiet. Mais il faut que l'option soit après la commande git, sinon git tombe en erreur. Par ailleurs, l'option -q / --quiet n'existe pas pour toutes les commandes de git (par exemple, il n'y en a pas pour git-status, ce qui est normal). Bref. Merci ! -- Adrien. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
la batterie se décharge - mate
Bonjour, j'ai un portable en Wheezy, avec l'interface graphique Mate. Quand je débranche le fil d'alimentation, la batterie se met en action bien sur et sur l'écran apparait un message la batterie se décharge. Je n'ai pas trouvé où désactiver ce message. Si quelqu'un a la réponse... Merci JLL -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5409718d.3070...@xagagroup.com
Re: [resolu] Re: The Gimp et Iscan
On 09/05/2014 12:22 AM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:55:52 +0200 Adrien cont...@creasixtine.com a écrit: Bon, premier essai manqué ! Voyons autre chose : n'y aurait-il pas un fichier /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/iscan ? Si c'est un lien symbolique, je pense que tu pourrais le retirer. L'idée est de garder iscan, mais de le désynchroniser de Gimp. Adrien. Merci. C'était bien ça ! Ton explication n'est pas claire. Le fait d'avoir /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/iscan te donne accès à iscan dans Gimp mais ne lance pas iscan. Aucun plugin de Gimp n'est lancé automatiquement. -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5409735d.5010...@gmail.com
RE: [resolu] Re: The Gimp et Iscan
Mais ils sont chargées automatiquement, donc peut être qu'il se lance au chargement. -- ovd valentin@live.fr De : maderiosmailto:mader...@gmail.com Envoyé : 05/09/2014 10:25 À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.orgmailto:debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Objet : Re: [resolu] Re: The Gimp et Iscan On 09/05/2014 12:22 AM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:55:52 +0200 Adrien cont...@creasixtine.com a écrit: Bon, premier essai manqué ! Voyons autre chose : n'y aurait-il pas un fichier /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/iscan ? Si c'est un lien symbolique, je pense que tu pourrais le retirer. L'idée est de garder iscan, mais de le désynchroniser de Gimp. Adrien. Merci. C'était bien ça ! Ton explication n'est pas claire. Le fait d'avoir /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/iscan te donne accès à iscan dans Gimp mais ne lance pas iscan. Aucun plugin de Gimp n'est lancé automatiquement. -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5409735d.5010...@gmail.com
Touche de fonction sur protable
Bonjour à tous,
La seule touche de fonction qui est activée sur mon portable c'est
#define KEY_SLEEP 142 /* SC System Sleep */
Avec Fn Esc
Cf.
/usr/include/linux/input.h
J'ai vérifié avec:
showkey -k
C'est bien 142.
D'autre part, deux raccourci de fonction que j'aimerais en priorité c'est
Fn flèche bas
et
Fn flèche haut
correspondant respectivement à :
#define KEY_BRIGHTNESSDOWN 224
#define KEY_BRIGHTNESSUP225
Comment faire pour que ça marche ?
Pour contourner cette difficulté, j'utilise xbindkeys, mais ça ne marche
que sous X, ce qui ne m'arrange pas trop :
#Augmanter le luminausité
sudo setbrightness +1
XF86MonBrightnessUp
# Dimiuer la luminosité
sudo setbrightness -1
XF86MonBrightnessDown
Dans .xbindkeysrc.
Quant à setbrightness, c'est un bout de code C qui écrit dans l'ACPI.
Merci à je ne sais plus qui (tu n'as pas signé ton code, mais tu le
reconnaîtras) sur cette liste pour l'exemple,de code que j'ai adapté à mon
ACPI.
Comment lier:
setbrightness +1 à #define KEY_BRIGHTNESSUP225 (Fn flèche haut)
et
setbrightness -1 à #define KEY_BRIGHTNESSDOWN 224 (Fn flèche bas)
En mode console(sans X) ?
Ou est-ce définit pour :
KEY_SLEEP 142 /* SC System Sleep */
Avec Fn Esc ?
Si je vois comment c'est fait pour la mise en veille, j'aurai probablement
l'inspiration pour les autres touches de fonction.
Merci d'avance
#include stdio.h
#include stdlib.h
#define BRIGHTNESS_FILE /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
#define MAX_BRIGHTNESS_FILE /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
//#define PRINT_DEBUG 1
void mod_brightness(int delta);
void set_brightness(int bright);
int get_brightness();
int get_max_brightness();
int main(int nbParam, char *argVect[])
{
int bright = 0;
int is_delta = 0;
// si le nombre de paramètres est inférieur à 2 il n'y en a pas assez
if (nbParam 2)
{
printf(%s [+|-]VALUE\n, argVect[0]);
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
// argVect[0] contient le nom de l'exécutable
//atoi retourne la valeur numérique du tableau de caractère contenu dans argVect[1]
bright = atoi(argVect[1]);
if (argVect[1][0] == '+' || bright 0) // si argVect[1] contient +n OU -n
is_delta = 1;
if (is_delta)
{
#ifdef PRINT_DEBUG
if (bright 0)
printf(Increasing brightness by %d\n, bright);
else if (bright 0)
printf(Decreasing brightness by %d\n, -bright);
#endif
mod_brightness(bright);
}
else
{
#ifdef PRINT_DEBUG
fprintf(stderr, Setting brightness to %d\n, bright);
#endif
set_brightness(bright);
}
return 0;
}
void mod_brightness(int delta)
{
int bright;
bright = get_brightness(BRIGHTNESS_FILE);
#ifdef PRINT_DEBUG
fprintf(stderr, Old brightness was %d\n, bright);
#endif
bright += delta;
set_brightness(bright);
}
void set_brightness(int bright)
{
FILE *fd;
int brightnessMax = get_brightness(MAX_BRIGHTNESS_FILE);
if (bright 0)
bright = 0;
else if (bright brightnessMax)
bright = brightnessMax;
fd = fopen(BRIGHTNESS_FILE, w);
if (!fd)
{
perror(Unable to open BRIGHTNESS_FILE);
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
fprintf(fd, %d\n, bright);
if (ferror(fd))
{
perror(Unable to write BRIGHTNESS_FILE);
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
fclose(fd);
}
int get_brightness(char *nomFichier)
{
FILE *fd;
char buffer[64];
size_t r;
fd = fopen(nomFichier, r);
if (!fd)
{
perror(nomFichier);
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
r = fread(buffer, 1, 63, fd);
if (ferror(fd) || !r)
{
perror(nomFichier);
exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
}
fclose(fd);
buffer[r] = 0;
return atoi(buffer);
}
[résolu] Re: Pb de routage entre deux sites via openvpn
Résolu : le nom du fichier ccd qui contient les options spécifique du client doit être le full qualified name du client qui se connecte : avec le nom de domaine complet. Yann. Le vendredi 29 août 2014 à 18:29 +0200, Yann Cohen a écrit : Bonjour, je sèche sur un problème de routage entre deux sites qui sont connectés via openvpn. Chaque coté du tunnel est un serveur debian (old-stable et jessie). Le serveur (firewall) est coté old-stable, le client coté jessie. Le serveur dessert les réseaux 192.168.3.0/24, 192.168.4.0/24 et 192.168.1.0/24 Le vpn est dans le plan d'@ 192.168.100.0/24 Le client (sky) dessert le réseau 192.168.29.0/24. la table de routage coté serveur est la suivante : [...] -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1409916046.3575.4.camel@yan
bluetooth.service et obexpushd
Bonjour, Il semble, mais je ne connais pas vraiment systemd, qu'il y ait une incompatibilité entre le lancement actuel (Jessie) de bluetooth.service et le fonctionnement de sdptool et obexpushd Normalement, bluetooth est lancé tel quel ExecStart=/usr/lib/bluetooth/bluetoothd Mais dans ce cas, si on fait un `sdptool browse local`, on a une erreur du genre « ne peut contacter le serveur sdp local » (en anglais dans le texte). Et le lancement de obexpushd échoue. La littérature Googleienne dit qu'il faut lancer bluetoothd avec l'option --compat Ce que j'ai rajouté dans /lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service, et ça va franchement mieux. Je ne pense pas que ce soit vraiment top pour la maintenance, soit dit en passant. Alors bug ? Pas bug ? -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905122311.GA26692@espinasse
Upgrader Wheezy dernière version
Bonjour, Je suis sous Wheezy et désire l'upgrader en dernière version, les commandes à taper après apt-get update sont : # apt-get upgrade ou apt-get dist-upgrade ? Merci. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201409051707.51076.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: Upgrader Wheezy dernière version
andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Je suis sous Wheezy et désire l'upgrader en dernière version, les commandes à taper après apt-get update sont : # apt-get upgrade ou apt-get dist-upgrade ? Merci. André Bonsoir, Personnellement, je fais toujours un apt-get update suivi d'un apt-get install -t version_de_la_distribution_que_je_veux apt pour éviter les désagréments gaguesques d'apt. Ensuite, un apt-get dist-upgrade fait le boulot correctement. Cordialement, JKB -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5409d331.8040...@systella.fr
Re: skype dans jessie
On Thursday 04 September 2014 17:48:12 David BERCOT wrote: Ceci signifie donc que la seule vérification effectuée par Microsoft est... légère ;-) Mais si ça marche... David. P.S. : je vais d'ailleurs le tester de ce pas car, bien que n'étant pas dérangé par pulseaudio, en 4.3, j'ai un souci de proxy... Le Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:08:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr a écrit : On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:10:58 pascatgm wrote: Bonjour la liste Depuis une récente mise à jour skype ne fonctionne plus dans jessie chez moi...Sans aucun message d'erreur. Quelqu'un aurait il des lumières ? Merci d'avance PG Dans la liste en anglais: Hi folks, I managed to get an older version of skype (the multiarch debian package) getting connected to skype. As you might have noticed, the new version is pulseaudio needed /what a crap!) and the older version (4.2) inhibits to connect to the server. So I found a simple solution: - Install the 4.2 package. - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype - search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37 - save the file - restart skype and - voila! It is now connecting to the server again! No pulseaudio needed any more! Yeah! Have fun! Hans Donne le résultat, mais dans la liste anglaise tous avaient l' air enchantés Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/4279111.SBP1F8UOXg@newone
Re: skype dans jessie
bonjour, ça fonctionne parfaitement ! merci pour cette astuce ! jerem Le 05/09/2014 18:13, Thierry Chatelet a écrit : On Thursday 04 September 2014 17:48:12 David BERCOT wrote: Ceci signifie donc que la seule vérification effectuée par Microsoft est... légère ;-) Mais si ça marche... David. P.S. : je vais d'ailleurs le tester de ce pas car, bien que n'étant pas dérangé par pulseaudio, en 4.3, j'ai un souci de proxy... Le Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:08:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelettchate...@free.fr a écrit : On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:10:58 pascatgm wrote: Bonjour la liste Depuis une récente mise à jour skype ne fonctionne plus dans jessie chez moi...Sans aucun message d'erreur. Quelqu'un aurait il des lumières ? Merci d'avance PG Dans la liste en anglais: Hi folks, I managed to get an older version of skype (the multiarch debian package) getting connected to skype. As you might have noticed, the new version is pulseaudio needed /what a crap!) and the older version (4.2) inhibits to connect to the server. So I found a simple solution: - Install the 4.2 package. - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype - search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37 - save the file - restart skype and - voila! It is now connecting to the server again! No pulseaudio needed any more! Yeah! Have fun! Hans Donne le résultat, mais dans la liste anglaise tous avaient l' air enchantés Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5409e1f4.5090...@prego-network.net
Re: [résolu] Re: Pb de routage entre deux sites via openvpn
Bonsoir, Le 05/09/2014 13:20, Yann COHEN a écrit : Résolu : le nom du fichier ccd qui contient les options spécifique du client doit être le full qualified name du client qui se connecte : avec le nom de domaine complet. Yann. En fait ça dépend surtout de comment tu as nommé le certificat client à sa création (champ Common Name) : c'est la dessus que le ccd se base pour pousser les options spécifiques au client. @+ Christophe. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5409ec86.4050...@stuxnet.org
Re: [resolu] Re: The Gimp et Iscan
Le Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:25:01 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit: On 09/05/2014 12:22 AM, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Thu, 04 Sep 2014 22:55:52 +0200 Adrien cont...@creasixtine.com a écrit: Bon, premier essai manqué ! Voyons autre chose : n'y aurait-il pas un fichier /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/iscan ? Si c'est un lien symbolique, je pense que tu pourrais le retirer. L'idée est de garder iscan, mais de le désynchroniser de Gimp. Adrien. Merci. C'était bien ça ! Ton explication n'est pas claire. Le fait d'avoir /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/iscan te donne accès à iscan dans Gimp mais ne lance pas iscan. Aucun plugin de Gimp n'est lancé automatiquement. Dans ce cas comment faire tout en gardant le lien ? Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905194012.0ffba44d65a85bcb8725e...@neuf.fr
Re: skype dans jessie
Bonsoir, En fait, j'ai trouvé encore plus simple ;-) Dans le fichier /etc/hosts (mais on doit pouvoir faire mieux), il suffit d'ajouter : 127.0.0.1 ui.skype.com Ainsi, la vérification n'est plus faite... David. Le Fri, 05 Sep 2014 18:16:52 +0200, prego jérémy jer...@prego-network.net a écrit : bonjour, ça fonctionne parfaitement ! merci pour cette astuce ! jerem Le 05/09/2014 18:13, Thierry Chatelet a écrit : On Thursday 04 September 2014 17:48:12 David BERCOT wrote: Ceci signifie donc que la seule vérification effectuée par Microsoft est... légère ;-) Mais si ça marche... David. P.S. : je vais d'ailleurs le tester de ce pas car, bien que n'étant pas dérangé par pulseaudio, en 4.3, j'ai un souci de proxy... Le Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:08:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelettchate...@free.fr a écrit : On Tuesday 02 September 2014 14:10:58 pascatgm wrote: Bonjour la liste Depuis une récente mise à jour skype ne fonctionne plus dans jessie chez moi...Sans aucun message d'erreur. Quelqu'un aurait il des lumières ? Merci d'avance PG Dans la liste en anglais: Hi folks, I managed to get an older version of skype (the multiarch debian package) getting connected to skype. As you might have noticed, the new version is pulseaudio needed /what a crap!) and the older version (4.2) inhibits to connect to the server. So I found a simple solution: - Install the 4.2 package. - start a hexeditor and open the file /usr/bin/skype - search for 4.2.0.11 and change this to 4.3.0.37 - save the file - restart skype and - voila! It is now connecting to the server again! No pulseaudio needed any more! Yeah! Have fun! Hans Donne le résultat, mais dans la liste anglaise tous avaient l' air enchantés Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905221251.689555cb@debian-david
Re: Postfix error al enviar correos
El 04/09/14 18:39, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:28:09 +0200, Antonio Moreno escribió: El 04/09/14 18:16, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:03:06 +0200, Antonio Moreno escribió: El 04/09/14 17:48, Camaleón escribió: (...) Bueno, esto tiene más lógica. Postfix retiene (deferred) el correo porque no se puede comunicar con Dovecot. En cuanto a los errores, Google sugiere que compruebes si tienes instalado el paquete dovecot-mysql. Ya lo vi muchas gracias por tu respuesta, pero sigo atascado jajaja (...) Sep 4 18:24:34 correo dovecot: auth-worker(393): mysql(127.0.0.1): Connected to database mailserver Sep 4 18:24:34 correo dovecot: auth-worker(393): Warning: mysql: Query failed, retrying: Table 'mailserver.users' doesn't exist Sep 4 18:24:34 correo dovecot: auth-worker(393): Error: sql(anto...@midominio.es): User query failed: Table 'mailserver.users' doesn't exist (using built-in default user_query: SELECT home, uid, gid FROM users WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d') A mí me parece que le has dicho a Dovecot: Oye, mis usuarios están en una base de datos sql pero como que se ha olvidado configurar esa base de datos, las tablas y todo eso. Y claro, el pobre Postfix no le puede entregar el correo a Dovecot porque éste tiene una crisis de identidad. He revisado la configuracion de /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf.ext y todo lo que tiene esa select aparece comentado, seguire investigando. A este paso me hago investigador privado jajajaja Si has seguido alguna guía, manda el enlace para que podamos ver los pasos que has dado. Si vas por libre, sigue revisando los registros de Dovecot con cada cambio que hagas que ya parece que te queda poco :-) Saludos, Buenos dias Estoy siguiendo esta guia https://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze Pero he cambiado tanto los archivos de configuracion por problemas que tampoco es que sea igual 100 %, de todas formas revisare bien toda la documentacion de dovecot. Muchas gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54096008.6040...@sorianatural.es
Re: Postfix error al enviar correos
El 04/09/14 18:39, Camaleón escribió:
El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:28:09 +0200, Antonio Moreno escribió:
El 04/09/14 18:16, Camaleón escribió:
El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:03:06 +0200, Antonio Moreno escribió:
El 04/09/14 17:48, Camaleón escribió:
(...)
Bueno, esto tiene más lógica. Postfix retiene (deferred) el correo porque
no se puede comunicar con Dovecot.
En cuanto a los errores, Google sugiere que compruebes si tienes instalado
el paquete dovecot-mysql.
Ya lo vi muchas gracias por tu respuesta, pero sigo atascado jajaja
(...)
Sep 4 18:24:34 correo dovecot: auth-worker(393): mysql(127.0.0.1): Connected
to database mailserver
Sep 4 18:24:34 correo dovecot: auth-worker(393): Warning: mysql: Query failed,
retrying: Table 'mailserver.users' doesn't exist
Sep 4 18:24:34 correo dovecot: auth-worker(393): Error:
sql(anto...@midominio.es): User query failed: Table 'mailserver.users' doesn't
exist (using built-in default user_query: SELECT home, uid, gid FROM users
WHERE username = '%n' AND domain = '%d')
A mí me parece que le has dicho a Dovecot: Oye, mis usuarios están en
una base de datos sql pero como que se ha olvidado configurar esa base
de datos, las tablas y todo eso. Y claro, el pobre Postfix no le puede
entregar el correo a Dovecot porque éste tiene una crisis de identidad.
He revisado la configuracion de /etc/dovecot/dovecot-sql.conf.ext y todo
lo que tiene esa select aparece comentado, seguire investigando.
A este paso me hago investigador privado jajajaja
Si has seguido alguna guía, manda el enlace para que podamos ver los
pasos que has dado. Si vas por libre, sigue revisando los registros
de Dovecot con cada cambio que hagas que ya parece que te queda poco :-)
Saludos,
Problema solucionado me faltaba la linea user_query
user_query = SELECT '/home/vmail/%d/%n' AS home, 5000 AS uid, 5000 AS
gid, CONCAT('*:bytes=', CAST(quota AS CHAR)) AS quota_rule FROM mailbox
WHERE username = '%u' AND active = '1'
Ahora el problema que tengo es que no encuentra el usuario
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pickup[4106]: 48F3F2C0533: uid=0 from=root
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/cleanup[4657]: 48F3F2C0533:
message-id=20140905075742.48f3f2c0...@correo.midominio.es
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 48F3F2C0533:
from=r...@midominio.es, size=286, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pipe[4650]: 48F3F2C0533:
to=anto...@midominio.es, relay=dovecot, delay=0.05,
delays=0.02/0/0/0.03, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/cleanup[4657]: 52F8C2C1409:
message-id=20140905075742.52f8c2c1...@correo.midominio.es
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 52F8C2C1409: from=,
size=2002, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/bounce[4656]: 48F3F2C0533: sender
non-delivery notification: 52F8C2C1409
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 48F3F2C0533: removed
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pipe[4650]: 52F8C2C1409:
to=anto...@midominio.es, orig_to=r...@midominio.es, relay=dovecot,
delay=0.04, delays=0.01/0/0/0.03, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 52F8C2C1409: removed
Seguire revisando configuraciones jejeje
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[OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola
Hola buenas, uso tiger vncviewer para conectarme a las máquinas virtuales. El caso es que necesito soporte TLS, por eso he usado tigervnc y no el clásico vncviewer que no tiene soporte TLS, aunque el comando que uso para conectarme es vncviewer proporcionado por tigervnc... La idea es que cuando me voy a conectar uso: vncviewer ip:puerto Y ya me sale una ventanit apara que introduzca el usuario y contraseña...Eso una vez vale, pero si necesito conectar muchas veces al día es un peñazo tener que meterla cada 2 x 3... Estoy mirando haber como le puedo pasar el parámetro de usuario y contraseña en el propio comando antes de conectar, pero no encuentro nada. De lo que encuentro es para vncviewer sin soporte TLS , cliente básico que se instala cuando instalas algún paquete de vnc client o server, no tigervnc. Saludos.
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola
El 5 de septiembre de 2014, 10:20, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: Hola buenas, uso tiger vncviewer para conectarme a las máquinas virtuales. El caso es que necesito soporte TLS, por eso he usado tigervnc y no el clásico vncviewer que no tiene soporte TLS, aunque el comando que uso para conectarme es vncviewer proporcionado por tigervnc... La idea es que cuando me voy a conectar uso: vncviewer ip:puerto Y ya me sale una ventanit apara que introduzca el usuario y contraseña...Eso una vez vale, pero si necesito conectar muchas veces al día es un peñazo tener que meterla cada 2 x 3... Estoy mirando haber como le puedo pasar el parámetro de usuario y contraseña en el propio comando antes de conectar, pero no encuentro nada. De lo que encuentro es para vncviewer sin soporte TLS , cliente básico que se instala cuando instalas algún paquete de vnc client o server, no tigervnc. Saludos. Según he mirado en su man de tigervnc vncviewer , sólo hay una opción para pasar la contraseña en texto plano pero no funciona, me pide el usuario y contraseña igualmente: http://tightvnc.com/vncviewer.1.html Yo necesito pasarle no sólo el password, también el user. http://i.imgur.com/ogfknb9.png Ejemplo: echo password | vncviewer -autopass host:display Saludos.
Re: Postfix error al enviar correos
El 04/09/14 16:08, Antonio Moreno escribió: (...) Como ya he comentado he solucionado casi todos los problemas salvo este Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pickup[4106]: 48F3F2C0533: uid=0 from=root Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/cleanup[4657]: 48F3F2C0533: message-id=20140905075742.48f3f2c0...@correo.midominio.es Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 48F3F2C0533: from=r...@midominio.es, size=286, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pipe[4650]: 48F3F2C0533: to=anto...@midominio.es, relay=dovecot, delay=0.05, delays=0.02/0/0/0.03, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown) Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/cleanup[4657]: 52F8C2C1409: message-id=20140905075742.52f8c2c1...@correo.midominio.es Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 52F8C2C1409: from=, size=2002, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/bounce[4656]: 48F3F2C0533: sender non-delivery notification: 52F8C2C1409 Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 48F3F2C0533: removed Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pipe[4650]: 52F8C2C1409: to=anto...@midominio.es, orig_to=r...@midominio.es, relay=dovecot, delay=0.04, delays=0.01/0/0/0.03, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown) Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 52F8C2C1409: removed Por lo que he podido leer en google mi problema esta en el virtual_alias_maps virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf He revisado 2 millones de veces esta linea pero no veo que puede estar mal, alguien me puede ayudar??? Muchas gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54099efd.7050...@sorianatural.es
Re: Postfix error al enviar correos
El viernes, 5 sep 2014 a las 13:31 horas (UTC+2), Antonio Moreno escribió: Por lo que he podido leer en google mi problema esta en el virtual_alias_maps virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf He revisado 2 millones de veces esta linea pero no veo que puede estar mal, alguien me puede ayudar??? En lugar de leer 2 millones de veces (tirando por lo bajo) esa línea, a lo mejor sería buena idea leer esos dos ficheros de configuración, buscar qué significa lo que allí se dice y ver los campos de las tablas de mysql asociadas y sus contendidos para que te hagas una buena idea de dónde está el problema. Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905141733.15ecb...@gmail.com
Re: Postfix error al enviar correos
El día 5 de septiembre de 2014, 14:17, Manolo Díaz diaz.man...@gmail.com escribió: El viernes, 5 sep 2014 a las 13:31 horas (UTC+2), Antonio Moreno escribió: Por lo que he podido leer en google mi problema esta en el virtual_alias_maps virtual_alias_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf He revisado 2 millones de veces esta linea pero no veo que puede estar mal, alguien me puede ayudar??? En lugar de leer 2 millones de veces (tirando por lo bajo) esa línea, a lo mejor sería buena idea leer esos dos ficheros de configuración, buscar qué significa lo que allí se dice y ver los campos de las tablas de mysql asociadas y sus contendidos para que te hagas una buena idea de dónde está el problema. Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905141733.15ecb...@gmail.com Yo te diria. Has revisado bien si estan todas las tablas en la base de datos mysql? en la consulta q -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAMF5f5BRzBc8z20vtWjtFH-k9Q2DfMoc3xiPKK2r=u0we2r...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Systemd
El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:33:01 -0300, Rivera Valdez escribió: (corrijo el top-posting y el html) 2014-09-04 13:09 GMT-03:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:32:44 +0200, Mario Ariel Guerra escribió: (...) - A mi jucio la situación con systemd es gravísima, creo que hay que arremangarnos y aunar esfuerzos por ejemplo con la gente de Gentoo que están haciendo eudev, o con los escritorios alternativos a Gnome como Mate (que al parecer no tiene dependencias con systemd), y tratando que los otros escritorios como KDE y XFCE no generen dependencias duras hacia systemd. Comparto tu preocupación. Yo por mi parte cada vez me siento más incómoda con mi sistema: desde kde 3.5 (y ya ha llovido) todo lo relacionado con en entorno de escritorio ha ido a mucho (pero mucho) peor. Sólo se salva el kernel que con cada nueva versión sigue aportando mejoras en lugar de pifias. No me queda claro por lo que están diciendo: ¿systemd es un componente necesario en las versiones actuales de Debian como SO, o solamente de algunos escritorios específicos (x ej. GNOME)? systemd es el nuevo gestor de servicios predeterminado (lo será a partir de Debian 8) es decir, que se instala directamente salvo que le digas lo contrario pero no es un componente necesario, podrás instalar y usar el gestor de servicios que prefieras, no sin algún que otro dolor de cabeza y sacrificando la instalación de los paquetes que lo tengan marcado como dependencia. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.09.05.14.00...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Wheezy+Postfix+Dovecot+LDAP-Problema mapeo dir en IMAP/POP3
El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 19:12:34 -0300, Diego H. Cancelo escribió:
El 04/09/14 12:09, Camaleón escribió:
(...)
Se me ocurren dos cosas que podrían estar molestando a Dovecot:
1/ Revisa la configuración que tienes en Postfix para ver si es
correcta:
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/LDA/Postfix
Por este lado está OK...
Te lo comento porque si no recuerdo mal tenías definidas dos cosas:
main.cf
mailbox_command = /usr/local/lib/dovecot/deliver
master.cf
dovecot unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=nobody:mail argv=/usr/local/lib/dovecot/deliver -d
${recipient}
No me hagas mucho caso pero de la información de la wiki hay algo que no
me encaja:
1/ ¿Es necesario que tener las dos opciones de configuración activadas?
Es decir, me da la sensación de que sólo una de ellas sería suficiente
(mailbox_command → cuando se usan usuarios del sistema y la entrada para
dovecot en el master.cf cuando se usan usuarios virtuales).
2/ Por otra parte, la línea de ejemplo que ponen en la wiki para la
entrada de dovecot en el master.cf añade un parámetro adicional al
binario -f ${sender} que en tu línea no aparece.
No digo que esté mal, ojo, sólo apunto las diferencias que veo con
respecto a la configuración de la documentación oficial aunque siempre
conviene leer también la documentación o el README del paquete de Debian
que ya sabemos que los empaquetadores hacen muchos cambios :-)
2/ En OpenLDAP, que no haya valores de variables contradictorias con
los datos de Dovecot
Justamente esto es lo que me temo... que la info en el árbol LDAP (el
home del user en este caso) me esta pisando mi config 'mail_home =
/var/vmail/%d/%n' que tengo seteada en Dovecot.
Acá en este parcial del log muestra:
1- consulta al ldap (us/home/uid/gid)
2- respuesta (donde se ve homeDirectory=/home/usersldap/sspeirone)
3- toma maildir++: root=/home/usersldap/sspeirone/mail
4- saved mail to INBOX
2014-09-04 18:52:23 auth: Debug: ldap(sspeir...@epea1.com.ar): user search:
base=dc=epea1,dc=com,dc=ar scope=subtree
filter=((objectClass=posixAccount)(uid=sspeirone))
fields=homeDirectory,uidNumber,gidNumber
2014-09-04 18:52:23 auth: Debug: ldap(sspeir...@epea1.com.ar): result:
uidNumber=10003 gidNumber=10002 homeDirectory=/hom e/usersldap/sspeirone
2014-09-04 18:52:23 lda(sspeir...@epea1.com.ar): Debug: maildir++:
root=/home/usersldap/sspeirone/mail, index=, control=,
inbox=/home/usersldap/sspeirone/mail, alt=
2014-09-04 18:52:23 lda(sspeir...@epea1.com.ar): Info: msgid=unspecified:
saved mail to INBOX : Subject: prueba
Por más que yo NO haya especificado que tome el directorio de destino
del correo desde LDAP usa el home especificado ahí en vez del seteado en
Dovecot. Investigare por este lado :p
(...)
Rebuscando en la wiki de Dovecot encontré estas páginas:
Domain (%d) is empty
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/DomainLost
Passdb LDAP with authentication binds
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/LDAP/AuthBinds
(sección Examples)
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/VirtualUsers
En este caso lo que sucede es que se pierde el valor de la variable
%d (dominio) que le llega vacía a Dovecot y que según los ejemplos
que hay en el último enlace parece que la madre del cordero está en
los argumentos que se le pasan a userdb en la plantilla ldap.
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Re: OT.: Parece que el sistema pasa a suspensión en vez de apagar
El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 23:11:59 -0400, Paulo Riquelme escribió: El día 4 de septiembre de 2014, 10:10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Hombre, pues sí. Mira a ver si encuentras alguna entrada más relacionada con la batería (ejecuta como root grep -i battery /var/log/syslog). Eres seco jaj, claro que eran pocas líneas, las pego acá: (...) Sep 2 22:59:25 ROQ515HP kernel: [9.698283] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present) Sep 3 00:33:33 ROQ515HP kernel: [ 5667.532225] [Firmware Bug]: battery: (dis)charge rate invalid. (...) Pues no hay nada nuevo. Al menos detecta que hay una batería conectada :-P Por cierto ¿por qué desenchufas el equipo de la toma eléctrica? :-? Son dos los momentos en que hago eso: Si es cuando termino de usarlo es porque lo guardo Si es cuando lo estoy utilizando es porque leí que para cuidar estas baterías de polímero de lithio se debe cargar parcialmente, desde 20% hasta 85% más menos. Así que al cargarse más de 85% lo desconecto y sigo con batería. Yo te recomendaría que no lo desconectaras. Además, las baterías de Li-Ion no necesitan ningún tipo de mantenimiento preventivo (más bien al contrario puesto que cuantas más veces la recargues antes acortas su vida puesto que como todas las baterías recargables tienen un número limitado de ciclos de carga) y los dispositivos desconectan cuando están cargadas. mmm, no encontré las páginas que decían esto para poder responder bien, pero escribían sobre el ciclo que se completaba al cargar por ejemplo 50% + 30% + 20% se contaría como un ciclo y no como 3 veces. Pero bueno, a estas alturas eres como un sensei real para mí así que como dices tú, vamos que a ojos cerrados te hago caso x) Yo es que a las baterías no les hago ni caso, es decir, las de plomo ácido sé que empiezan a fallar a los 4-5 años (como mucho y sni no han reventado antes) y las más modernicas de ion-litio pues a partir de los 3-4 años no es que fallen pero sí que notas una degradación evidente y la autonomía empieza a decaer, las cuides como las cuides y hagas lo que hagas así que si dependes de ellas lo mejor es reemplazarlas. (...) Lo que viene para mí y este asunto es darme tiempos razonables mayores a un día para hacer las pruebas necesarias y obtener resultados más objetivos, ya que en este tema cada una de las pruebas necesita su buen tiempo, la información que me has brindado me ha servido bastante y quisiera que me sigas ayudando luego de esta pausa si no fuera mucha la molestia. No te vuelvas loco con el WOL, prueba primero a desactivar el servicio laptop-mode para ver si hay algún cambio con el nivel de la batería y en base a eso sigues haciendo más pruebas. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.09.05.15.04...@gmail.com
Re: Postfix error al enviar correos
El Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:03:36 +0200, Antonio Moreno escribió:
El 04/09/14 18:39, Camaleón escribió:
(...)
Si has seguido alguna guía, manda el enlace para que podamos ver los
pasos que has dado. Si vas por libre, sigue revisando los registros de
Dovecot con cada cambio que hagas que ya parece que te queda poco :-)
Problema solucionado me faltaba la linea user_query
Guay :-)
user_query = SELECT '/home/vmail/%d/%n' AS home, 5000 AS uid, 5000 AS gid,
CONCAT('*:bytes=', CAST(quota AS CHAR)) AS quota_rule FROM mailbox WHERE
username = '%u' AND active = '1'
Ahora el problema que tengo es que no encuentra el usuario
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pickup[4106]: 48F3F2C0533: uid=0 from=root
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/cleanup[4657]: 48F3F2C0533:
message-id=20140905075742.48f3f2c0...@correo.midominio.es
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 48F3F2C0533:
from=r...@midominio.es, size=286, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pipe[4650]: 48F3F2C0533:
to=anto...@midominio.es, relay=dovecot, delay=0.05, delays=0.02/0/0/0.03,
dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/cleanup[4657]: 52F8C2C1409:
message-id=20140905075742.52f8c2c1...@correo.midominio.es
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 52F8C2C1409: from=, size=2002,
nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/bounce[4656]: 48F3F2C0533: sender non-delivery
notification: 52F8C2C1409
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 48F3F2C0533: removed
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/pipe[4650]: 52F8C2C1409:
to=anto...@midominio.es, orig_to=r...@midominio.es, relay=dovecot,
delay=0.04, delays=0.01/0/0/0.03, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced (user unknown)
Sep 5 09:57:42 correo postfix/qmgr[32147]: 52F8C2C1409: removed
(...)
Entiendo que Postfix le pasa el correo a Dovecot (que actúa como LDA)
pero también que tiene hacer una comprobación mínima de que el
usuario existe por lo que interesa saber qué contienen los archivos
relativos a la bdd sql y que son los que apuntan a estas variables:
virtual_mailbox_domains = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-domains.cf
virtual_mailbox_maps = mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-mailbox-maps.cf
virtual_alias_maps =
mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-virtual-alias-maps.cf,mysql:/etc/postfix/mysql-email2email.cf
Omite los datos sensibles.
Saludos,
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Re: Problema de saturación de red
El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:52:08 -0500, Antonio Galicia escribió: Tengo un problema que me trae de cabeza con un equipo con debian 7. Resulta que después de un rato de estar funcionando bien la interfase de red se satura (o es lo que suponemos) por lo que empieza a contestar lento aun desde la consola. Si quitamos físicamente el cable de la tarjeta regresa la respuesta normal. ¿La lentitud del sistema se produce sólo cuando se accede desde la red local? ¿Habéis revisado los registros? ¿Tenéis algún servicio que esté escuchando peticiones desde el exterior? Originalmente tenía Squeeze y funcionaba sin problema pero al actualizar a Wheezy empezaron los problemas. Para descartar algún problema con la actualización se re-instaló desde cero, primer problema es que no trae driver para la tarjeta así que a cargar el driver y el problema persistió. Le agregamos una tarjeta genérica sin cambio. Lo virtualizamos y ahora vive dentro de un vmware ESXi y no se corrige el fallo. (...) Si funcionaba bien en Squeeze y falla en Wheezy me hace pensar que el problema puede ser del controlador de la tarjeta de red que seguramente se haya actualizado y pueda tener algún bug o regresión que no estaba presente en la versión anterior. Pero si os pasa también con una tarjeta de red distinta que use un driver genérico (incluido en el kernel) entonces podría ser un problema del kernel, probad con una versión superior (p. ej., la de los backports) a ver si notáis alguna diferencia. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.09.05.15.38...@gmail.com
Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola
El Fri, 05 Sep 2014 10:36:03 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió: (grrr...) El 5 de septiembre de 2014, 10:20, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió: Hola buenas, uso tiger vncviewer para conectarme a las máquinas virtuales. (...) Estoy mirando haber como le puedo pasar el parámetro de usuario y contraseña en el propio comando antes de conectar, pero no encuentro nada. De lo que encuentro es para vncviewer sin soporte TLS , cliente básico que se instala cuando instalas algún paquete de vnc client o server, no tigervnc. Según he mirado en su man de tigervnc vncviewer , sólo hay una opción para pasar la contraseña en texto plano pero no funciona, me pide el usuario y contraseña igualmente: http://tightvnc.com/vncviewer.1.html Yo necesito pasarle no sólo el password, también el user. http://i.imgur.com/ogfknb9.png Ejemplo: echo password | vncviewer -autopass host:display Hum... mi ojo de cristal ve dos parámetros en ese enlace que mandas: -user username User name for Unix login authentication. Default is to use current Unix user name. If this option was given, the viewer will prefer Unix login authentication over the standard VNC authentication. -passwd passwd-file File from which to get the password (as generated by the vncpasswd(1) program). This option affects only the standard VNC authentication. vncviewer -user usuario -passwd archivo_con_contraseña host:display Ahora bien, cosa distinta es que pasando estos dos argumentos correctamente pues no funcione :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.09.05.15.50...@gmail.com
Re: Problema de saturación de red
2014-09-05 10:38 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: Tengo un problema que me trae de cabeza con un equipo con debian 7. Resulta que después de un rato de estar funcionando bien la interfase de red se satura (o es lo que suponemos) por lo que empieza a contestar lento aun desde la consola. Si quitamos físicamente el cable de la tarjeta regresa la respuesta normal. ¿La lentitud del sistema se produce sólo cuando se accede desde la red local? ¿Habéis revisado los registros? ¿Tenéis algún servicio que esté escuchando peticiones desde el exterior? No, se produce desde fuera de la red. Como dije, entre las acciones que tomé esta el poner el equipo detrás de un router por lo que ahora la máquina recibe las conexiones nateadas y tiene una IP privada de la red local. Historia: * Linux con IP privada y Squeeze. Todo bien * Linux con IP privada y Wheezy upgradeado. Se degrada al punto que no responde ni desde la consola. Si se desconecta el cable regresa a la normalidad pero sin conexión sirve como un bonito (y caro) calentador de aire * Se reinstala desde cero y se detecta que esta versión no trae driver para la tarjeta por lo que se instala el paquete non-free. Sin cambio, se sigue presentando el problema * Se descaga el driver directo de la página del fabricante, en este caso HP. Mismo resultado * Se instala tarjeta de red genérica con probado soporte de linux. Mismo resultado, la tarjeta original no se puede remover, está incorporada al mobo. * Se instala vmware ESXi y se monta linux como VM. Sin cambio * Se pone un router como FW al frente de la caja, ahora cuando se presenta el problema el equipo responde normalmente desde la red interna y desde la consola pero no hay manera de llegar desde fuera de la red. Si se reinicia el router se restablece la comunicación * Se saca la máquina de la DMZ y asinga la IP pública, se instala switch y se implementa una vlan. Ahora es el switch quien se congela por decirlo de alguna manera. Si funcionaba bien en Squeeze y falla en Wheezy me hace pensar que el problema puede ser del controlador de la tarjeta de red que seguramente se haya actualizado y pueda tener algún bug o regresión que no estaba presente en la versión anterior. Eso piensé, por ello cambié de tarjeta y lo virtualize. Pero si os pasa también con una tarjeta de red distinta que use un driver genérico (incluido en el kernel) entonces podría ser un problema del kernel, probad con una versión superior (p. ej., la de los backports) a ver si notáis alguna diferencia. En el inter de todo esto se ha actualizado en debian un par de veces el kernel sin que esto cambie algo, incluso probé con el genérico que trae el instalador. Me faltan dos cosas por hacer: compilar un kernel con la últimísima versión disponible y regresarme a Squeeze. Otra es moverme a redhat, centos, suse o algún otro pero es de esas cosas que no quiero hacer tampoco. -- Saludos, Antonio Galicia Eram quod es, eris quod sum -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGYn=Y0Rb3MD8EQrb4J=zb7ehddrmszr99s92xhy5hh_x78...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problema de saturación de red
El Fri, 05 Sep 2014 11:23:20 -0500, Antonio Galicia escribió: 2014-09-05 10:38 GMT-05:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: Tengo un problema que me trae de cabeza con un equipo con debian 7. Resulta que después de un rato de estar funcionando bien la interfase de red se satura (o es lo que suponemos) por lo que empieza a contestar lento aun desde la consola. Si quitamos físicamente el cable de la tarjeta regresa la respuesta normal. ¿La lentitud del sistema se produce sólo cuando se accede desde la red local? ¿Habéis revisado los registros? ¿Tenéis algún servicio que esté escuchando peticiones desde el exterior? No, se produce desde fuera de la red. Como dije, entre las acciones que tomé esta el poner el equipo detrás de un router por lo que ahora la máquina recibe las conexiones nateadas y tiene una IP privada de la red local. ¿Quieres decir que la respuesta del sistema en local es buena y no se ralentiza y sólo se atora cuando accedes desde un equipo remoto desde fuera de la red local? Historia: (...) Sí, creo que lo has comentado antes. Por cierto, ¿qué tipo de adaptador de red monta esa placa que necesita de un driver (que no firmware) externo? Si funcionaba bien en Squeeze y falla en Wheezy me hace pensar que el problema puede ser del controlador de la tarjeta de red que seguramente se haya actualizado y pueda tener algún bug o regresión que no estaba presente en la versión anterior. Eso piensé, por ello cambié de tarjeta y lo virtualize. Pero si os pasa también con una tarjeta de red distinta que use un driver genérico (incluido en el kernel) entonces podría ser un problema del kernel, probad con una versión superior (p. ej., la de los backports) a ver si notáis alguna diferencia. En el inter de todo esto se ha actualizado en debian un par de veces el kernel sin que esto cambie algo, incluso probé con el genérico que trae el instalador. Las actualizaciones que recibe el kernel de la versión estable son muy ligeras por decirlo de alguna manera, contienen parches de seguridad y alguna que otra mejora pero para notar un cambio de verdad tienes que probar con una versión del kernel superior (wheezy lleva la 3.2 y en el backports está la 3.14, lo que visto con ojos kernelianos -un año kerneliano equivalen a 5 años humanos- es un mundo de diferencia). Me faltan dos cosas por hacer: compilar un kernel con la últimísima versión disponible y regresarme a Squeeze. Pues a eso me refiero, pero no hace falta que compiles teniendo un paquete deb listo para usar ;-) Otra es moverme a redhat, centos, suse o algún otro pero es de esas cosas que no quiero hacer tampoco. Antes de moverte, prueba con una LiveCD no vaya a ser que el mismo problema lo tengas con el resto de distribuciones. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.09.05.17.12...@gmail.com
Cómo instalar debian jessie con sysvinit
Cordial saludo ¿Existe alguna manera tener una instalación nueva en debian jessie que instale sysvinit y obvie systemd? gracias. E.E.F.J. araw...@ieee.org
Re: Cómo instalar debian jessie con sysvinit
El viernes, 5 sep 2014 a las 21:11 horas (UTC+2), Exell E. Franklin J. escribió: Cordial saludo ¿Existe alguna manera tener una instalación nueva en debian jessie que instale sysvinit y obvie systemd? gracias. E.E.F.J. araw...@ieee.org Debian Jessie vendrá con systemd como sistema de inicio predeterminado, y con sysv y upstart como alternativos. Ahora bien, todavía no sé si el instalador te dejará elegir entre ellos. Tampoco sé hasta que punto se puede prescindir por completo de él, habida cuenta de que dbus depende de systemd, y los entornos de escritorios que conozco dependen en alguna medida de dbus. Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905215521.65e9b...@gmail.com
Re: Cómo instalar debian jessie con sysvinit
On 09/05/2014 12:55 PM, Manolo Díaz wrote: El viernes, 5 sep 2014 a las 21:11 horas (UTC+2), Exell E. Franklin J. escribió: Cordial saludo ¿Existe alguna manera tener una instalación nueva en debian jessie que instale sysvinit y obvie systemd? gracias. E.E.F.J. araw...@ieee.org Debian Jessie vendrá con systemd como sistema de inicio predeterminado, y con sysv y upstart como alternativos. Ahora bien, todavía no sé si el instalador te dejará elegir entre ellos. Tampoco sé hasta que punto se puede prescindir por completo de él, habida cuenta de que dbus depende de systemd, y los entornos de escritorios que conozco dependen en alguna medida de dbus. Saludos. Gentoo, parece que esta desarrollando un sustituto de dbus al estilo Unix! Y se esta validando en Slackware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540a42ee.1070...@agronomos.ca
Re: OT.: Parece que el sistema pasa a suspensión en vez de apagar
El día 5 de septiembre de 2014, 11:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 04 Sep 2014 23:11:59 -0400, Paulo Riquelme escribió: El día 4 de septiembre de 2014, 10:10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Hombre, pues sí. Mira a ver si encuentras alguna entrada más relacionada con la batería (ejecuta como root grep -i battery /var/log/syslog). Eres seco jaj, claro que eran pocas líneas, las pego acá: (...) Sep 2 22:59:25 ROQ515HP kernel: [9.698283] ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery present) Sep 3 00:33:33 ROQ515HP kernel: [ 5667.532225] [Firmware Bug]: battery: (dis)charge rate invalid. (...) Pues no hay nada nuevo. Al menos detecta que hay una batería conectada :-P Por cierto ¿por qué desenchufas el equipo de la toma eléctrica? :-? Son dos los momentos en que hago eso: Si es cuando termino de usarlo es porque lo guardo Si es cuando lo estoy utilizando es porque leí que para cuidar estas baterías de polímero de lithio se debe cargar parcialmente, desde 20% hasta 85% más menos. Así que al cargarse más de 85% lo desconecto y sigo con batería. Yo te recomendaría que no lo desconectaras. Además, las baterías de Li-Ion no necesitan ningún tipo de mantenimiento preventivo (más bien al contrario puesto que cuantas más veces la recargues antes acortas su vida puesto que como todas las baterías recargables tienen un número limitado de ciclos de carga) y los dispositivos desconectan cuando están cargadas. mmm, no encontré las páginas que decían esto para poder responder bien, pero escribían sobre el ciclo que se completaba al cargar por ejemplo 50% + 30% + 20% se contaría como un ciclo y no como 3 veces. Pero bueno, a estas alturas eres como un sensei real para mí así que como dices tú, vamos que a ojos cerrados te hago caso x) Yo es que a las baterías no les hago ni caso, es decir, las de plomo ácido sé que empiezan a fallar a los 4-5 años (como mucho y sni no han reventado antes) y las más modernicas de ion-litio pues a partir de los 3-4 años no es que fallen pero sí que notas una degradación evidente y la autonomía empieza a decaer, las cuides como las cuides y hagas lo que hagas así que si dependes de ellas lo mejor es reemplazarlas. (...) Lo que viene para mí y este asunto es darme tiempos razonables mayores a un día para hacer las pruebas necesarias y obtener resultados más objetivos, ya que en este tema cada una de las pruebas necesita su buen tiempo, la información que me has brindado me ha servido bastante y quisiera que me sigas ayudando luego de esta pausa si no fuera mucha la molestia. No te vuelvas loco con el WOL, prueba primero a desactivar el servicio laptop-mode para ver si hay algún cambio con el nivel de la batería y en base a eso sigues haciendo más pruebas. ok, hoy voy a hacer eso y voy a mirar más allá del WOL, aunque lo encuentro harto en páginas de tipos que también han tenido notebooks hp, como por ejamplo: http://www.debian-fr.org/wheezy-pc-eteint-qu-consomme-t39946-75.html hablan de gestión de rtc, del famoso WOL, hwclock, ACPI, también de un informe de error (48711); Pero este hilo era de noviembre 2012, ese informe de error ¿quiere decir que los responsables del proyecto aceptaron esto como un aspecto a mejorar del sistema? y si fue así a estas alturas de 2014 se debiera considerar como un caso superado? Por último, en esa página salen instrucciones para crear un ejecutable con estas líneas: #!/bin/sh /sbin/ethtool -s eth0 wol d acpitool -w | grep enabled | grep -v LID | sed -e '1,$s/ *\([0-9]*\)\..*$/\1/' | xargs -n 1 acpitool -W pero no me logro enterar dónde y nombre del archivo donde debe ir esto, entiendo que es para desactivar algunos módulos a la hora de apagar. Sobre el archivo /proc/acpi/wakeup al que se hace referencia para ver los resultados de la instrucción anterior, el mio tiene esto: /proc/acpi/wakeup Device S-state Status Sysfs node XHC1 S4*disabled RP01 S4*disabled pci::00:1c.0 PXSX S4*disabled RP02 S4*disabled pci::00:1c.1 PXSX S4*disabled pci::02:00.0 RP03 S4*disabled pci::00:1c.2 PXSX S4*disabled pci::03:00.0 RP04 S5*disabled pci::00:1c.3 PXSX S5*disabled pci::04:00.0 EHC1 S3*enabled pci::00:1d.0 PWRB S4*enabled BRCM S0*disabled Bueno, sobre la prueba diaria que estoy haciendo ayer apagué sin estar conectado a AC y con el módulo de ethernet del laptop-mode-tools activado, nuevamente chupó como 6% de batería durante 18 horas apagado aproximadamente. Saludos, gracias por el tiempo. Paulo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAJvcBJbGTHbkpUQE2chip-1LRQfQo=znkld2uajqcysywya...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Systemd
On 03/09/14 06:45 AM, Camaleón wrote: El Tue, 02 Sep 2014 14:15:42 -0700, agronomo escribió: Antes de probar otras alternativas, en varios escritorios Debian estable, y 2 servidores Debian estable. Me gustaria saber con certeza (por favor solo hechos reales), si es posible tener Debian Estable (Escritorios y Servidores) sin nada relacionado con Systemd? Me aparecen varios paquetes! (...) En la versión estable aún hay poco rastro de systemd. ¿Qué paquetes te aparecen? Yo sólo tengo este en un entorno de escritorio: sm01@stt008:~$ dpkg -l | grep -i systemd ii libsystemd-login0:amd64 44-11 +deb7u4 amd64systemd login utility library Y el motivo de su presencia se debe a: sm01@stt008:~$ aptitude why libsystemd-login0 i lightdm Depende dbus i A dbusDepende libsystemd-login0 (= 31) En cambio, en los servidores no tengo ningún paquete/biblioteca de systemd. Saludos, Escritorio: # aptitude search systemd p libpam-systemd - system and service manager - PAM module p libsystemd-daemon-dev - systemd utility library - development files i A libsystemd-daemon0- systemd utility library p libsystemd-id128-0 - systemd 128 bit ID utility library p libsystemd-id128-dev - systemd 128 bit ID utility library - development files p libsystemd-journal-dev - systemd journal utility library - development files p libsystemd-journal0 - systemd journal utility library p libsystemd-login-dev- systemd login utility library - development files i A libsystemd-login0 - systemd login utility library p live-config-systemd - Live System Configuration Scripts (systemd backend) p systemd - system and service manager p systemd-gui - system and service manager - GUI p systemd-sysv - system and service manager - SysV links servidor: Nada hasta luego. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540a8a62.4030...@agronomos.ca
Software para Gerencia de Horas em serviços TI
Pessoal boa tarde, Estou a procura de algum software que possa gerenciar as horas eventualmente contratas, caso não for utilizadas as horas contratadas/mês, deverá acumular em um banco de horas. Se possível ser capaz de integração com sistemas help desk ou se os senhores souber algum help desk que já venha essa solução. Se alguém souber de alguma aplicação. Obrigado a todos. __ Messias Manoel da Silva Junior Bebedouro-SP Analista de Suporte MD Brasil T.I e Telecom Linux User: #491808 Linux LPIC1 - Linux Pronfessional Institute Certification Novell DCTE - Data Center Technical Specialist Novell CLA - Novell Certified Linux Administrator -- .~..''`. / v \ Use GNU/Linux!: :` : /( )\ `. `'` ^^-^^`- Para as lagartixas só posso dizer, treine muito e vire um calango, e continue admirando os crocodilos
Re: host hostname not found
On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 08:26:38PM -0400, Podrigal, Aron wrote: Any idea what can be the cause? I am installing proxmox-ve and when starting pve-cluster it fails with [main] crit: Unable to get local IP address. So I tried to look up with host utility and it does not resolve. What does grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf give you? Do you have libnss-myhostname installed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905061445.ga20...@bryant.redmars.org
Re: host hostname not found
Hi. On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 08:26:38PM -0400, Podrigal, Aron wrote: Any idea what can be the cause? I am installing proxmox-ve and when starting pve-cluster it fails with [main] crit: Unable to get local IP address. So I tried to look up with host utility and it does not resolve. host localhost Host localhost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) This is the way it should be - you DNS tells you that it knows nothing about localhost hostname (because host utility only does DNS requests). If you need to test the validity of /etc/hosts, you should use: getent hosts localhost /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost in /etc/nsswitch.conf I have hosts: files dns While this may look good, I believe you're missing a customary entry pointing to your hostname in /etc/hosts. I.e. your_static_ip_here your_hostname_here Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905064815.GA14984@x101h
Re: IPv6 neighbor solicitations to use link-local source address
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 13:12:38 +0200 Julien b jumbo...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-09-04 12:32 GMT+02:00 mett m...@pmars.jp: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 18:50:01 +0900 mett m...@pmars.jp wrote: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 09:12:46 +0200 Julien b jumbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi mett, thank you for your answer. I hope that I'm not top-posting too ping6 -I doesn't change anything, the box is still using the global scope address. Best regards Julien 2014-09-04 2:32 GMT+02:00 mett m...@pmars.jp: On Thu, 4 Sep 2014 09:04:00 +0900 mett m...@pmars.jp wrote: Hi, When pinging link-local addresses, u need to specify the exit interface. So maybe if u specify the exit interface and another link-local as destination, you might be able to do it: -- mett@asus:~$ ip -6 add show 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qlen 1000 inet6 fe80::20c:6eff:fef8:7d1c/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever mett@asus: -- root@tamirrsso:/var/log# ip -6 add show 3: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qlen 1000 inet6 fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever root@tamirrsso:/var/log# -- mett@asus:~$ ping6 -I eth0 fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda PING fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda(fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda) from fe80::20c:6eff:fef8:7d1c eth0: 56 data bytes 64 bytes from fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.433 ms 64 bytes from fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.205 ms 64 bytes from fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.201 ms 64 bytes from fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.256 ms 64 bytes from fe80::207:95ff:fed5:2fda: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.199 ms HTH! On Wed, 3 Sep 2014 15:55:38 +0200 Julien b jumbo...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody I'm very new to lists.debian.org so please appologize if I am doing something wrong by sending this email. I'm just out of idea with a behavior in NDP and must find a solution. I didn't find anything on the internet. RFC4861 section 7.2.2 says that the source address in NDP neighbor solicitations can be any one of the addresses assigned to the interface. It also says that using the prompting packet's source address ensures that the recipient installs it in its neighbor cache. The latter is the behavior I can see on my boxes (a debian 6.0.9 + custom kernel 3.2.14) and also on a Centos one. # ip -6 addr list 1: lo: LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 16436 inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 3: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qlen 1000 inet6 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::32/64 scope global valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 fe80::a00:27ff:fe02:3cbd/64 scope link valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever # ping6 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::33 -c 3 /dev/null # tcpdump -nli eth0 icmp6 18:09:04.726908 IP6 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::32 ff02::1:ff00:33: ICMP6, neighbor solicitation, who has 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::33, length 32 18:09:04.727373 IP6 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::33 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::32: ICMP6, neighbor advertisement, tgt is 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::33, length 32 18:09:04.727391 IP6 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::32 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::33: ICMP6, echo request, seq 1, length 64 18:09:04.727738 IP6 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::33 2a10:7e40:edf6:100::32: ICMP6, echo reply, seq 1, length 64 My question is : How can I force ndp to use the link-local address assigned to that outgoing device ? (in the trace above, ndp would then send the neighbor solicitation with fe80::a00:27ff:fe02:3cbd source address). This is requested by our customer for security reasons and as far as I can see it complies with RFC4861 as well. If someone had a clue how to do that or if it's just impossible, I would really appreciate your help. Thank you Best resgards Julien By the way, sorry for top-posting... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140904093203.696b0eff@asus.tamerr Hey, U cannot ping
Aw: Re: GUI fails after upgrade from wheezy to jessie
Hi Hans, thank you for sharing your ideas. I used apt-get dist-upgrade for my upgrade from wheezy to jessie. Kernel command line in grub does not have any vga= options. I removed gdm3 and x11-session from /etc/init.rd/ but somehow Xorg still got started. Cannot image how/why? Regarding the first problem: - As lxde was already installed, I additionally installed xfce. However, this did not change the situation at all. - Afterwards, I installed kdm as a replacement for gdm3 (not uninstalled) - problem partly solved! No more kernel faults and window manager now shows up soon after X is started. However, two less critical problems persist: * screen resolution is strange (not using whole screen) and I cannot select usage of different monitors via EeePC FN + XX keys any more. All this worked fine in wheezy. * nm-applet does not work properly, message like Policy Kit authorization failed: challenge needed for org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.Device.Control are diplayed. I will try to use information from https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/display_manager and https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180025 to fix it as soon as I have time for it. To help others with similar problem I will report the result. Does the FN + XX-key combination work for you? Regarding second problem: - still exists, could not find a workaround Regarding third problem: - after running apt-get remove lilypond lilypond-doc lilypond-doc-html - problem solved! Yours, Hans Gesendet:Donnerstag, 04. September 2014 um 12:48 Uhr Von:Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de An:debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff:Re: GUI fails after upgrade from wheezy to jessie Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2014, 10:57:47 schrieb Hans Heider: Hi all, I just upgraded from Debian stable (wheezy) to testing (jessie). Unfortunately, I encountered three different problems which are (in decending severity): 1. The GUI became totally unusable. After booting X is started up but in 99% of all tries it just leaves me with a blank screen. Only once the gdm3 interface came up very slowly and I was able to log in, however the hole system froze after about one minute and I had to perform a hard reset. With removing the quiet from kernel command line I just see that X is started (displays OK) - no further errors reported. I managed to obtain the kernal fault trace attached to this email. This problem occurs every time and I have no clue how to fix it. Tried to add nomodeset to the kernel command line but no result. Additionally, the kernel fault seems to occur multiple times in a row. I can force the kernel fault to occure with # killall Xorg gdm3 gdm-session-manager which seems to restart the whole gui (however I do not know how restarts this services). After this command I am automatically taken to terminal 7 with a running GUI / blank screen. 2. During boot the system hangs for quite some time with displaying the message A start job is running for dev-disk-byx2duuid-29d73912x2d52cax2d4026x2d8a14x2d72c08e242b0b.device . I found this https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=5538.0 and the system continues to boot, but it is still something I would like to fix. Any ideas? 3. Do to Bug #758787 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758787) my apt became useless. Does anybody know of a workaround? My system is a laptop with Intel Atom processor and an onboard Intel Graphics chip. Kernel version is 3.14-2-686-pae. Dmesg also just gives me the report found in attachment. I could not find any helpful information in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.1.log neither in /var/log/syslog. Google gives no solution either... Any help is greatly appreciated. Yours, Hans Hi Hans, I am running Jessie on an netbook EEEPC 1005HAG, which is an atom processor and an Intel 945 graphics chip. It is running very well. So let me try to help. First, check out, that during upgrade no needed packages were uninstalled. This mostly when using aptitude. For upgrade I still prefer apt-get dist- upgrade. Later you can finetune with aptitude. Second, do not use any vga= option in grub. For this hardware, I got best results in letting the kernel decide, which resolution to use. Otherwise you might get in trouble with X. Third, just for trying, install some other window manager, I suggest LXDE. It is fast and stable. Fourth, for testing purposes, remove /etc/init.d/gdm and /etc/init.d/kdm somewhere else. Doing so, X is not started automatically. But you can start X with the commad startx in the commandline as root. So you can see, if errors appear, and what really happens. If everything is running fine later, you can just rem,ove the files back. Fifth, again, just for testing purposes, you can install grub-legacy. On this older system I am quite happy with it. However, some people will now say, it does not have any effects on X - and they may be right. I hope, this will help a little, to find the reason for the problem. Good
Re: IPV6 dns server running on IPV4 Connection??
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 01:52:16AM +, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:16:12 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: Whoops... should have gone to the list. Sorry about that! On 9/3/2014 10:48 AM, John Foster wrote: I have Verizon as my ISP; of course they don't want or allow the running of static addressed servers. However they seem to be ignoring most IPV6 systems connection. I.E. I can browse IPV6 network connections and my router from Verizon has IPV6 settings enabled for both DHCPv6 Staticv6 connections. I am wondering if it would be possible to set up bind to run on my server with IPV6 initialized and run my server using it as an IPV6 static site while they (Verizon) happily use the same IPV4 installation they are already using. Could this setup coexist on one machine. BTW: I am able to set up IPV6 DNS thru Godaddy at their dns zone manager for my server, to point to my unique IPV6 address. Only issue thereafter is where to get the proper IPV6 unique addres for my machine. ANY suggestions or comment are greatly appreciated. john Even if you get a unique IPV6 address, Verizon would have to tell the rest of the internet the routing to your address. And unless you get it from Verizon, chances are they aren't going to do it. Yes, it could coexist on one machine - but ANY IP routing is dependent on the next machine in the chain passing the routing information on. Without this, no one (not even someone else on the Verizon network) will be able to access your IP. Your best bet is going to be to get an IPV6 address from Verizon. But please remember - most internet users (and even many ISPs) are still using IPV4 only, and will not be able to access your site. Jerry There's a company I heard of a few years ago that provides IPv6-over-IPv3 tunnelling. I think it's called Hurricane Electric. Look it up, see if it fits your needs. Actually, Hurricane Electric (among many other providers[1]) provide IPv6 over IPv4 (I'm going to assume that was a typo, though, as IPv3 was an experimental version which was retired in 1979). You can basically think of these tunnel brokers as being your IPv6 ISP (with Verizon etc being the IPv4 ISP). The real difference is that, instead of providing IPv4 over ADSL/VDSL etc and providing you with equipment to terminate that line, the tunnel brokers rely on you already having a physical connection and provide you internet access over that, instead. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IPv6_tunnel_brokers signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apt-get update during boot
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:21:09AM +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: Hi, somehow my system is running an apt-get update or something similar during boot. Whenever I login after boot I can do a apt-get dist-upgrade directly because the package list is already up to date. If I am too fast with the apt-get dist-upgrade it even complains that the database is locked by another process. waiting a few more seconds solves that. And this is true regardless which desktop I use: kde, xfce or cinnamon. I could not find any hint ffpr apt in /etc/init.d or /etc/xdg/autostart. So where is that apt-get update happening? is it webmin? There are a number of programs I can think that would do that. apt-cron, unattended-upgrades and friends will update apt in order to find new packages to install automatically. munin-node will also update in order to count the number of new packages (if you have that graph enabled). So, you probably also want to check crontabs (both the system ones and local ones for all users). Greetings Matthias PS I am using debian testing -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/lubh85$l5u$1...@ger.gmane.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bibletime encoding problem
With Xiphos currently not available for Testing I want to use Bibletime but it's output is unreadable indicating an encoding problem. I cannot see anywhere in the configuration options of Bibletime where that can be changed. Does anybody on this list know how to configure Bibletime correctly for my system? My available locales: cat /etc/default/locale # File generated by update-locale LANG=af_ZA.UTF-8 #LANGUAGE=en_ZA:en Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Re: Aw: Re: GUI fails after upgrade from wheezy to jessie
Am Freitag, 5. September 2014, 10:15:36 schrieb Hans Heider: Hi Hans, thank you for sharing your ideas. I used apt-get dist-upgrade for my upgrade from wheezy to jessie. Kernel command line in grub does not have any vga= options. I removed gdm3 and x11-session from /etc/init.rd/ but somehow Xorg still got started. Cannot image how/why? Hmm, that should not be. Check, if there is any other loginmanager active in init.d. Search at kdm, gdm and lightdm. Just remove all of them. Maybe you might want to deinstall all of them. I suggest, to purge them, too. (either aptitude purge packagename or apt-get --purge packagename) Apropos purging: the comman aptitude purge ~c purges all configurations of all deinstalled packages and libs. So these do not interfere. Can you see the output, when you do startx as root from the prompt? There should appear some messages. Regarding the first problem: - As lxde was already installed, I additionally installed xfce. However, this did not change the situation at all. - Afterwards, I installed kdm as a replacement for gdm3 (not uninstalled) - problem partly solved! Yes, kdm is working also fine. But for testing purposes move it away from /etc/init.d/, just like gdm. No more kernel faults and window manager now shows up soon after X is started. However, two less critical problems persist: * screen resolution is strange (not using whole screen) and I cannot select usage of different monitors via EeePC FN + XX keys any more. Hmm, this should work. Did you install the package eeepc-acpi-scripts? If yes, look at the configuration of it. Note: FN + Space, FN + F6 do not work after reboot. They are working again, when you did a dpkg-reconfigure eeepc-acpi- scripts - until next reboot. I sent a bugreport, but still no one cared. All this worked fine in wheezy. * nm-applet does not work properly, message like Policy Kit authorization failed: challenge needed for org.freedesktop.ModemManager1.Device.Control are diplayed. I will try to use information from Network-manager is not woorking very well on an EEEPC. I suggest to change to wicd. If you want to use a GSM-card, try umtsmon. It is an old qt4-package, but working very very well. I am no coder, but I tried to change it to use qt5, but still got no success. For this I am not experienced enough. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/display_manager and https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180025 to fix it as soon as I have time for it. To help others with similar problem I will report the result. Does the FN + XX-key combination work for you? Regarding second problem: - still exists, could not find a workaround Regarding third problem: - after running apt-get remove lilypond lilypond-doc lilypond-doc-html - problem solved! Yours, Try also apt-get autoremove, and if you know, what you are doing, you can also try orphaner. This will remove a lot of crap from your system. If after that something is missing, just reinstall it. Hans Good luck! Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/4357686.4IuIZ0RsLT@protheus7
Re: apt-get update during boot
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 07:21:09AM +0200, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: Hi, somehow my system is running an apt-get update or something similar during boot. Whenever I login after boot I can do a apt-get dist-upgrade directly because the package list is already up to date. If I am too fast with the apt-get dist-upgrade it even complains that the database is locked by another process. waiting a few more seconds solves that. And this is true regardless which desktop I use: kde, xfce or cinnamon. I could not find any hint ffpr apt in /etc/init.d or /etc/xdg/autostart. So where is that apt-get update happening? is it webmin? root@tal:~# apt-cache search webmin root@tal:~# Are you running third-party software? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905091441.GE26567@tal
Re: Bibletime encoding problem
Johann Spies wrote: With Xiphos currently not available for Testing I want to use Bibletime but it's output is unreadable indicating an encoding problem. I cannot see anywhere in the configuration options of Bibletime where that can be changed. Does anybody on this list know how to configure Bibletime correctly for my system? My available locales: cat /etc/default/locale # File generated by update-locale LANG=af_ZA.UTF-8 #LANGUAGE=en_ZA:en Regards Johann The project home pages appear to be http://www.bibletime.info/ and https://sites.google.com/site/bibledit/ HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540988e1.1030...@cloud85.net
Re: Bibletime encoding problem
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:56:49AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Johann Spies wrote: With Xiphos currently not available for Testing I want to use Bibletime but it's output is unreadable indicating an encoding problem. I cannot see anywhere in the configuration options of Bibletime where that can be changed. Does anybody on this list know how to configure Bibletime correctly for my system? My available locales: cat /etc/default/locale # File generated by update-locale LANG=af_ZA.UTF-8 #LANGUAGE=en_ZA:en Regards Johann The project home pages appear to be http://www.bibletime.info/ and https://sites.google.com/site/bibledit/ According to thine package description: bibletime-data - Documentation and data for bibletime, a bible study tool does that not help thou? Perhaps, if thou produced any error messages help might be forthwith a bit more quickly. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905104450.GA29444@tal
Re: Patch wheezy's glibc to run on ancient kernel (2.6.16)?
Hi Sven, This is not too worrying since the 2.6.16 kernel has been unsupported since 2008, and 2.6.16.27 is even two years older. Sure, for debian it is fine - however for me, being limited to that old kernel, it is a showstopper. Granted, the use-case is rather obscure ;) Probably. To patch eglibc for supporting older kernels, change the MIN_KERNEL_SUPPORTED variable in debian/sysdeps/linux.mk and update the check in debian/debhelper.in/libc.preinst for the minimum kernel version accordingly. Thanks for the hint about debian/debhelper.in/libc.preinst, I would have missed it for sure. Package rebuild went without any issues on a chroot-wheezy on my raspberry, and the patched wheezy works perfectly on my Nokia-770 with Linux-2.6.16, and is currently compiling stuff directly on the target. To my surprise the linker didn't complain at all, even though all libraries and binaries contain 2.6.26 as minimum kernel version. To me this shows one of the benefits of the loose coupling the packages within a linux distribution - running Windows-7 userland on a WinXP kernel wouldn't be that easy I guess ;) Best regards and thanks a lot for your help, Clemens -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAFvQSYTfTKZu5A1ni0Q7ujsJ=1PBQY=yhhvyswbb+oc8+yq...@mail.gmail.com
Multiarch apt-get install removes packages?
Hiya, Can anyone throw any light on why installing ia32-libs has removed important packages from my server? During a puppet run, puppet ran the command.. /usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install ia32-libs .. and apt removed things like postgres and puppet from the system. I've found old bugs related to aptitude not handling conflicts well in multiarch mode but can't find any recent similar issues.. (Apt log entry included below) Any tips appreciated.. W Start-Date: 2014-09-01 09:59:18 Commandline: /usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install ia32-libs Install: libopenal1:i386 (1.14-4), sane-utils:amd64 (1.0.22-7.4, automatic), libedit2:i386 (2.11-20080614-5), libkrb5-3:i386 (1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u2, automatic), libpam0g:i386 (1.1.3-7.1), libts-0.0-0:i386 (1.0-11, automatic), libk5crypto3:i386 (1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u2, automatic), libpopt0:i386 (1.16-7), libstdc++5:i386 (3.3.6-25), libstdc++6:i386 (4.7.2-5, automatic), libxfixes3:i386 (5.0-4+deb7u1, automatic), uuid-runtime:amd64 (2.20.1-5.3, automatic), libxcomposite1:i386 (0.4.3-2), libldap-2.4-2:i386 (2.4.31-1+nmu2, automatic), libgphoto2-l10n:amd64 (2.4.14-2, automatic), libv4l-0:amd64 (0.8.8-3, automatic), libv4l-0:i386 (0.8.8-3, automatic), liblcms1:i386 (1.19.dfsg-1.2), ia32-libs-i386:i386 (0.4), libgphoto2-port0:amd64 (2.4.14-2, automatic), libgphoto2-port0:i386 (2.4.14-2, automatic), libidn11:i386 (1.25-2, automatic), libnss3:i386 (3.14.5-1+deb7u1, automatic), libwrap0:i386 (7.6.q-24, automatic), libcaca0:i386 (0.99.beta18-1, automatic), libfile-copy-recursive-perl:amd64 (0.38-1, automatic), libsamplerate0:i386 (0.1.8-5, automatic), libacl1:i386 (2.2.51-8), libcomerr2:i386 (1.42.5-1.1), libselinux1:i386 (2.1.9-5), libjpeg8:i386 (8d-1+deb7u1, automatic), ia32-libs:amd64 (0.4), libsvga1:i386 (1.4.3-33), libdrm-radeon1:i386 (2.4.40-1~deb7u2, automatic), libdbus-1-3:i386 (1.6.8-1+deb7u3, automatic), libaio1:i386 (0.3.109-3), libsane:amd64 (1.0.22-7.4, automatic), libsane:i386 (1.0.22-7.4), odbcinst1debian2:amd64 (2.2.14p2-5, automatic), odbcinst1debian2:i386 (2.2.14p2-5), update-inetd:amd64 (4.43, automatic), libtinfo5:i386 (5.9-10, automatic), libxxf86vm1:i386 (1.1.2-1+deb7u1, automatic), libcap2:i386 (2.22-1.2), libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 (8.0.5-4+deb7u2, automatic), libtdb1:i386 (1.2.10-2), libxcb-glx0:i386 (1.8.1-2+deb7u1, automatic), libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 (8.0.5-4+deb7u2, automatic), libx86-1:i386 (1.1+ds1-10, automatic), libjack-jackd2-0:i386 (1.9.8~dfsg.4+20120529git007cdc37-5), libxslt1.1:i386 (1.1.26-14.1), libnspr4-0d:i386 (4.9.2-1+deb7u2), libx11-xcb1:i386 (1.5.0-1+deb7u1, automatic), libgnutls26:i386 (2.12.20-8+deb7u2, automatic), libglapi-mesa:i386 (8.0.5-4+deb7u2, automatic), libopenal-data:amd64 (1.14-4, automatic), odbcinst:amd64 (2.2.14p2-5, automatic), libjbig0:i386 (2.0-2+deb7u1), libbsd0:i386 (0.4.2-1), libsigc++-2.0-0c2a:i386 (2.2.10-0.2), libxmuu1:i386 (1.1.1-1), libtasn1-3:i386 (2.13-2, automatic), libfreetype6:i386 (2.4.9-1.1, automatic), libexpat1:i386 (2.1.0-1+deb7u1, automatic), libv4lconvert0:amd64 (0.8.8-3, automatic), libv4lconvert0:i386 (0.8.8-3, automatic), liblzma5:i386 (5.1.1alpha+20120614-2, automatic), libdirectfb-1.2-9:i386 (1.2.10.0-5), libavahi-common-data:i386 (0.6.31-2, automatic), libc6-i686:i386 (2.13-38+deb7u4, automatic), acl:amd64 (2.2.51-8, automatic), libncursesw5:i386 (5.9-10, automatic), libffi5:i386 (3.0.10-3, automatic), libjson0:i386 (0.10-1.2, automatic), libgcc1:i386 (4.7.2-5, automatic), libxcb1:i386 (1.8.1-2+deb7u1, automatic), libp11-kit0:i386 (0.12-3, automatic), libdrm2:i386 (2.4.40-1~deb7u2, automatic), libxau6:i386 (1.0.7-1, automatic), libsdl1.2debian:i386 (1.2.15-5), libxaw7:i386 (1.0.10-2), libgdbm3:i386 (1.8.3-11), libcups2:i386 (1.5.3-5+deb7u4), libcurl3:i386 (7.26.0-1+wheezy9), libfltk1.1:i386 (1.1.10-14), libxinerama1:i386 (1.1.2-1+deb7u1, automatic), libesd0:i386 (0.2.41-10+b1), libkrb5support0:i386 (1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u2, automatic), libxft2:i386 (2.3.1-1, automatic), libssh2-1:i386 (1.4.2-1.1, automatic), libdrm-nouveau1a:i386 (2.4.40-1~deb7u2, automatic), libice6:i386 (1.0.8-2, automatic), libxdmcp6:i386 (1.1.1-1, automatic), libieee1284-3:amd64 (0.2.11-10, automatic), libieee1284-3:i386 (0.2.11-10), libgcrypt11:i386 (1.5.0-5+deb7u1, automatic), libdrm-intel1:i386 (2.4.40-1~deb7u2, automatic), libxml2:i386 (2.8.0+dfsg1-7+wheezy1), libkeyutils1:i386 (1.5.5-3, automatic), lesstif2:i386 (0.95.2-1.1), liblzo2-2:i386 (2.06-1+deb7u1), libxmu6:i386 (1.1.1-1, automatic), libgpm2:i386 (1.20.4-6, automatic), libvorbisfile3:i386 (1.3.2-1.3), libsane-common:amd64 (1.0.22-7.4, automatic), esound-common:amd64 (0.2.41-10, automatic), libasound2:i386 (1.0.25-4, automatic), libxpm4:amd64 (3.5.10-1, automatic), libxpm4:i386 (3.5.10-1, automatic), libflac8:i386 (1.2.1-6), libusb-0.1-4:i386 (0.1.12-20+nmu1, automatic), libxrender1:i386 (0.9.7-1+deb7u1, automatic), libnspr4:i386
Re: apt-get update during boot
Matthias Bodenbinder: somehow my system is running an apt-get update or something similar during boot. Whenever I login after boot I can do a apt-get dist-upgrade directly because the package list is already up to date. If I am too fast with the apt-get dist-upgrade it even complains that the database is locked by another process. waiting a few more seconds solves that. And this is true regardless which desktop I use: kde, xfce or cinnamon. I guess this is just /etc/cron.daily/apt from the apt package in conjunction with anacron. Take a look at the file, the documentation is right at the top of the file. J. -- I wish I could achieve a 'just stepped out of the salon' look more often. Or at least once. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Multiarch apt-get install removes packages?
On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 01:21:01PM +0100, Will Payne wrote: Hiya, Can anyone throw any light on why installing ia32-libs has removed important packages from my server? During a puppet run, puppet ran the command.. /usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install ia32-libs ia32-libs is NOT multiarch and is deprecated. The appropriate method, now, is to install dpkg 1.16.2 or newer, issue dpkg --add-architecture arch (such as dpkg --add-architecture i386) followed by apt-get update. You will now see a bunch of packages ending in :i386. These are the actual debian packages from the i386 tree and can be installed alongside their amd64 brethren. The problem is that ia32-libs was a big slab of i386 libraries. Maybe you didn't need all of them, maybe you needed more than was there. But is was a terrible hack. With the new system, dpkg is aware that your system can run binaries from multiple architectures and handles dependencies appropriately. So, with a true multiarch system, it is perfectly acceptable to install a 32-bit program package (rather than a 32-bit program wrapped in a 64-bit package) and the 32-bit libraries will get pulled in. For full details: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch .. and apt removed things like postgres and puppet from the system. I've found old bugs related to aptitude not handling conflicts well in multiarch mode but can't find any recent similar issues.. (Apt log entry included below) Any tips appreciated.. W Start-Date: 2014-09-01 09:59:18 Commandline: /usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install ia32-libs Install: libopenal1:i386 (1.14-4), sane-utils:amd64 (1.0.22-7.4, automatic), libedit2:i386 (2.11-20080614-5), libkrb5-3:i386 (1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u2, automatic), libpam0g:i386 (1.1.3-7.1), libts-0.0-0:i386 (1.0-11, automatic), libk5crypto3:i386 (1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u2, automatic), libpopt0:i386 (1.16-7), libstdc++5:i386 (3.3.6-25), libstdc++6:i386 (4.7.2-5, automatic), libxfixes3:i386 (5.0-4+deb7u1, automatic), uuid-runtime:amd64 (2.20.1-5.3, automatic), libxcomposite1:i386 (0.4.3-2), libldap-2.4-2:i386 (2.4.31-1+nmu2, automatic), libgphoto2-l10n:amd64 (2.4.14-2, automatic), libv4l-0:amd64 (0.8.8-3, automatic), libv4l-0:i386 (0.8.8-3, automatic), liblcms1:i386 (1.19.dfsg-1.2), ia32-libs-i386:i386 (0.4), libgphoto2-port0:amd64 (2.4.14-2, automatic), libgphoto2-port0:i386 (2.4.14-2, automatic), libidn11:i386 (1.25-2, automatic), libnss3:i386 (3.14.5-1+deb7u1, automatic), libwrap0:i386 (7.6.q-24, automatic), libcaca0:i386 (0.99.beta18-1, automatic), libfile-copy-recursive-perl:amd64 (0.38-1, automatic), libsamplerate0:i386 (0.1.8-5, automatic), libacl1:i386 (2.2.51-8), libcomerr2:i386 (1.42.5-1.1), libselinux1:i386 (2.1.9-5), libjpeg8:i386 (8d-1+deb7u1, automatic), ia32-libs:amd64 (0.4), libsvga1:i386 (1.4.3-33), libdrm-radeon1:i386 (2.4.40-1~deb7u2, automatic), libdbus-1-3:i386 (1.6.8-1+deb7u3, automatic), libaio1:i386 (0.3.109-3), libsane:amd64 (1.0.22-7.4, automatic), libsane:i386 (1.0.22-7.4), odbcinst1debian2:amd64 (2.2.14p2-5, automatic), odbcinst1debian2:i386 (2.2.14p2-5), update-inetd:amd64 (4.43, automatic), libtinfo5:i386 (5.9-10, automatic), libxxf86vm1:i386 (1.1.2-1+deb7u1, automatic), libcap2:i386 (2.22-1.2), libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 (8.0.5-4+deb7u2, automatic), libtdb1:i386 (1.2.10-2), libxcb-glx0:i386 (1.8.1-2+deb7u1, automatic), libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 (8.0.5-4+deb7u2, automatic), libx86-1:i386 (1.1+ds1-10, automatic), libjack-jackd2-0:i386 (1.9.8~dfsg.4+20120529git007cdc37-5), libxslt1.1:i386 (1.1.26-14.1), libnspr4-0d:i386 (4.9.2-1+deb7u2), libx11-xcb1:i386 (1.5.0-1+deb7u1, automatic), libgnutls26:i386 (2.12.20-8+deb7u2, automatic), libglapi-mesa:i386 (8.0.5-4+deb7u2, automatic), libopenal-data:amd64 (1.14-4, automatic), odbcinst:amd64 (2.2.14p2-5, automatic), libjbig0:i386 (2.0-2+deb7u1), libbsd0:i386 (0.4.2-1), libsigc++-2.0-0c2a:i386 (2.2.10-0.2), libxmuu1:i386 (1.1.1-1), libtasn1-3:i386 (2.13-2, automatic), libfreetype6:i386 (2.4.9-1.1, automatic), libexpat1:i386 (2.1.0-1+deb7u1, automatic), libv4lconvert0:amd64 (0.8.8-3, automatic), libv4lconvert0:i386 (0.8.8-3, automatic), liblzma5:i386 (5.1.1alpha+20120614-2, automatic), libdirectfb-1.2-9:i386 (1.2.10.0-5), libavahi-common-data:i386 (0.6.31-2, automatic), libc6-i686:i386 (2.13-38+deb7u4, automatic), acl:amd64 (2.2.51-8, automatic), libncursesw5:i386 (5.9-10, automatic), libffi5:i386 (3.0.10-3, automatic), libjson0:i386 (0.10-1.2, automatic), libgcc1:i386 (4.7.2-5, automatic), libxcb1:i386 (1.8.1-2+deb7u1, automatic), libp11-kit0:i386 (0.12-3, automatic), libdrm2:i386 (2.4.40-1~deb7u2, automatic), libxau6:i386 (1.0.7-1, automatic), libsdl1.2debian:i386 (1.2.15-5), libxaw7:i386 (1.0.10-2), libgdbm3:i386 (1.8.3-11), libcups2:i386 (1.5.3-5+deb7u4), libcurl3:i386 (7.26.0-1+wheezy9), libfltk1.1:i386 (1.1.10-14), libxinerama1:i386 (1.1.2-1+deb7u1, automatic), libesd0:i386 (0.2.41-10+b1),
Re: Multiarch apt-get install removes packages?
On 2014-09-05 13:36, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 01:21:01PM +0100, Will Payne wrote: Hiya, Can anyone throw any light on why installing ia32-libs has removed important packages from my server? During a puppet run, puppet ran the command.. /usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install ia32-libs ia32-libs is NOT multiarch and is deprecated. snip Ta for that. Doesn't explain why apt removed those packages but if I can restrict the libs installed then that'll probably avoid the issue.. Thanks, W -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/81492148f4c6aed71618663aa89ea...@mail.teambadger.co.uk
Re: Bibletime encoding problem
ouch. 2014/09/05 19:45 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz: On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 04:56:49AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Johann Spies wrote: [...] The project home pages appear to be http://www.bibletime.info/ and https://sites.google.com/site/bibledit/ According to thine package description: ... thy package description bibletime-data - Documentation and data for bibletime, a bible study tool does that not help thou? Doth it help thee not? Mmmm, no, that isn't quite right. Punt: Art thou not holpen thereby? Perhaps, if thou produced any error messages help might be forthwith a bit more quickly. Mayhap, hadst thou shown the incurred error message thou mightest be helped forthwith. :) Joel Rees Computer memory is just fancy paper, CPUs just fancy pens: All is a stream of text flowing from the past into the future. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caar43im6rsotrf5vnu2+02hvmw9m_vrfczs7ecaeat1rfe-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Multiarch apt-get install removes packages?
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014, Darac Marjal wrote: On Fri, Sep 05, 2014 at 01:21:01PM +0100, Will Payne wrote: Can anyone throw any light on why installing ia32-libs has removed important packages from my server? During a puppet run, puppet ran the command.. /usr/bin/apt-get -q -y -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confold install ia32-libs ia32-libs is NOT multiarch and is deprecated. Its description is: This is a transitional package used to migrate the ia32-libs package to true multiarch. It can be removed once nothing on the system depends on it. This package requires multiarch to be enabled before it can be installed, use dpkg --add-architecture i386. It is present in Debian stable for a good reason, and it is not deprecated there, but you need to use it correctly. It has been removed in testing and unstable, as it is no longer necessary for Debian Jessie (because we don't support upgrades that skip a stable release). -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905135708.gb1...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: host hostname not found
I did not have libnss-myhostname installed. I think it was always shipped with the debian installation, at least on wheezy 7.4 through 7.5, I now had wheezy 7.6 installed, Was this changed in 7.6 or I'm just wrong? However I installed libnss-myhostname, amd I am now able to start proxmox pve-cluster, which I wasn't able before due to failing local dns lookup. But still when I do host localhost, I still get not found. Is that the intended behavior? I just checked on different environments and I see tjat on mac os im also getting not found for localhost. So looks like Reco is right that thos is intended behavior. But on my other debian boxes 7.6 it does work, so my question is why does it work there? So in short, was there any change in the last release? Thanks On Thu, Sep 04, 2014 at 08:26:38PM -0400, Podrigal, Aron wrote: Any idea what can be the cause? I am installing proxmox-ve and when starting pve-cluster it fails with [main] crit: Unable to get local IP address. So I tried to look up with host utility and it does not resolve. What does grep hosts /etc/nsswitch.conf give you? Do you have libnss-myhostname installed? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905061445.ga20...@bryant.redmars.org
Re: finding a dependency chain
On Thu, 4 Sep 2014, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
On Wed, 3 Sep 2014, Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote:
I'm trying to figure out, for example, what causes brasero to
ultimately depend on systemd. I found a utility called debtree,
but it produces too much output to be of use to me -- it shows all
dependency chains starting at brasero, but I am only interested in
the one that ends at systemd.
Can anybody suggest another utility, or maybe the proper syntax to
make debtree do what I want?
Thanks
-Rob
I just used vim to search through debtree's .dot output (for such a
complex thing, way easier than trying to look at the image file),
and then followed up by looking around in aptitude interactive
mode.
Thanks. That is much easier than looking at the image file!
I'd still like to find a method to specify the start point and end
point, and get output of a single dependency chain. If anybody
knows a way, please post it.
seems like this pipeline
$ apt-cache --recurse -i depends brasero |tac
yields the elements in question, and in a convenient order (children
before parents), but with a whole bunch of irrelevance interleaved.
piping it to something like the following clears away the irrelevant
parts:
note the careful choice of words above: *something like*
$ cat above_kludge
#!/bin/bash
pattrn=$1
while read line
do if [[ $line =~ ^${pattrn}$ ]] # Found node C.
then echo $line # Admit node C to output.
pattrn=$line # Ground the pattern.
else if [[ $line =~ [[:blank:]]${pattrn}$ ]] # Found node C listed
# above its parent.
then pattrn='[[:alnum:][:punct:]]*' # Seek the parent.
fi
fi
done
did some more tests this morning. ouch. above kludge has problems.
version below works better:
#!/bin/bash
seek_parent=1
pattrn=$1
while IFS='' read line
do
if [[ $seek_parent -eq 1 ]] [[ $line =~ ^${pattrn}$ ]]
then
echo $line
pattrn=$line
seek_parent=0
elif [[ $seek_parent -eq 0 ]] [[ $line =~ [[:space:]]${pattrn}$ ]]
then
pattrn=[[:alnum:][:punct:]]+
seek_parent=1
fi
done
so, like this:
$ apt-cache --recurse -i depends brasero |tac |above_kludge '.*systemd.*'
er, no. that won't work in general. for better results, replace '.'
on the line above with '[[:alnum:][:punct:]]'.
so, more like this:
$ apt-cache --recurse -i depends brasero |tac |\
above_kludge '[[:alnum:][:punct:]]*systemd[[:alnum:][:punct:]]*'
-wes
libsystemd-login0
dbus
udisks
libgdu0
gvfs-daemons
gvfs
brasero
while in general there might be multiple paths, above kludge will find
just one of them.
-wes
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Re: host hostname not found
On Fri 05 Sep 2014 at 10:49:15 -0400, Podrigal, Aron wrote: I did not have libnss-myhostname installed. I think it was always shipped with the debian installation, at least on wheezy 7.4 through 7.5, I now had wheezy 7.6 installed, Was this changed in 7.6 or I'm just wrong? libnss-myhostname is Priority: extra and has no reverse depends, so it would not be expected to come with any Wheezy release. However I installed libnss-myhostname, amd I am now able to start proxmox pve-cluster, which I wasn't able before due to failing local dns lookup. There is no failing local DNS lookup. It has pointed been out your /etc/hosts has a line missing. It would look like this 127.0.1.1 hostname or this 127.0.1.1 hostname.domain hostname and is put there by the installer. libnss-myhostname works without that line being present. What does getent hosts $(hostname) give? But still when I do host localhost, I still get not found. Is that the intended behavior? I just checked on different environments and I see tjat on mac os im also getting not found for localhost. So looks like Reco is right that thos is intended behavior. But on my other debian boxes 7.6 it does work, so my question is why does it work there? So in short, was there any change in the last release? It isn't possible for the host command to come up with an IP for localhost using the DNS. You have a possible misconfiguration. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905161017.gm4...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Make n-m not touch WWAN
I don't recall this happening until recent updates, but on my laptop with testing installed, any time network-manager starts/restarts, it will rfkill my WWAN card. I use the card exclusively as a GPS, so I want n-m to pretend it doesn't exist. Is there something like unmanaged-devices but for WWAN cards? Matt Ventura -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540a0baf.8050...@mattventura.net
Re: Make n-m not touch WWAN
Am 05.09.2014 21:14, schrieb Matt Ventura: I don't recall this happening until recent updates, but on my laptop with testing installed, any time network-manager starts/restarts, it will rfkill my WWAN card. I use the card exclusively as a GPS, so I want n-m to pretend it doesn't exist. Is there something like unmanaged-devices but for WWAN cards? You could try something like [keyfile] unmanaged-devices=mac:00:11:22:33:44:55 in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: host hostname not found
ok, a fresh install of debian 7.6, here is my settings, I don't have libnss-myhostname installed yet root@test1:~# cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost 127.0.1.1 test1.test.com test1 # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback ff02::1 ip6-allnodes ff02::2 ip6-allrouters root@test1:~# getent hosts $(hostname) 127.0.1.1 test1.test.com test1 root@test1:~# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # If you have the `glibc-doc-reference' and `info' packages installed, try: # `info libc Name Service Switch' for information about this file. passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat hosts: files dns networks: files protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: nis root@test1:~# host -v $(hostname) Trying test1 Host test1 not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Received 98 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53 in 14 ms Clearly, it skips /etc/hosts entries. After digging around, I noticed, that I had always setup DNS records for my hosts prior to doing the installations, which caused me the confusion on what was happening. I thought that the looking up my hostname resolves correctly by getting the ip from /etc/hosts, which I was wrong. So yes, host does not look in /etc/hosts by default. On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 05 Sep 2014 at 10:49:15 -0400, Podrigal, Aron wrote: I did not have libnss-myhostname installed. I think it was always shipped with the debian installation, at least on wheezy 7.4 through 7.5, I now had wheezy 7.6 installed, Was this changed in 7.6 or I'm just wrong? libnss-myhostname is Priority: extra and has no reverse depends, so it would not be expected to come with any Wheezy release. However I installed libnss-myhostname, amd I am now able to start proxmox pve-cluster, which I wasn't able before due to failing local dns lookup. There is no failing local DNS lookup. It has pointed been out your /etc/hosts has a line missing. It would look like this 127.0.1.1 hostname or this 127.0.1.1 hostname.domain hostname and is put there by the installer. libnss-myhostname works without that line being present. What does getent hosts $(hostname) give? But still when I do host localhost, I still get not found. Is that the intended behavior? I just checked on different environments and I see tjat on mac os im also getting not found for localhost. So looks like Reco is right that thos is intended behavior. But on my other debian boxes 7.6 it does work, so my question is why does it work there? So in short, was there any change in the last release? It isn't possible for the host command to come up with an IP for localhost using the DNS. You have a possible misconfiguration. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905161017.gm4...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Bibletime encoding problem
On 5 September 2014 15:01, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: ouch. bibletime-data - Documentation and data for bibletime, a bible study tool does that not help thou? Doth it help thee not? Mmmm, no, that isn't quite right. Punt: Art thou not holpen thereby? Mayhap, hadst thou shown the incurred error message thou mightest be helped forthwith. :) Grapjas! :) No error messages. Just output like this: �� p�� 1 01� 2 x�͒ 3 �d� 4 x�͒ 5 x�͒ 6 ��� 7 x�͒ 8 x�͒ 9 x�͒ 10 x�͒ 11 x�͒ 12 x�͒ 13 14 x�͒ 15 x�͒ 16 x�͒ 17 x�͒ 18 x�͒ 19 � 20 x�͒ 21 x�͒ 22 x�͒ 23 о� 24 x�͒ 25 x�͒ 26 x�͒ 27 x�͒ 28 x�͒ 29 x�͒ 30 x�͒ 31 x�͒ If you can read that, wonderful! You apparently did not read my email properly:) Enjoy your day. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide
Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net writes: On 8/28/14, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2014 22:51:13 Steve Litt wrote: you shouldn't express your opinion! Of course you should express your opinion, but not over and over and over and over again ad nauseam and beyond. We all know your opinion. Please give it a rest. I shall have to amend my previous statement: The Internet is my pulpit, no matter -what- I have to say, and no matter *how *many times* I want to say it, and debian-user@ldo was created for me to repeat what I want to say, so y'all get to hear it repeatedly, until I'm satisfied that everyone has truly heard what I want to say! Neither this mailing list, nor the internet was created for you any more than for anyone else, and I doubt it was created for the purpose of ppl repeating themselves all the time. Anything less is denying me my freedom to express my opinion. So if you don't like it, go swing the Debian COC past us all and prove me wrong. Unfortunately, that's arguable: You are using other ppl's resources to express your opinion. Should I, for example, decide not to receive your emails, I might simply be dedicating my resources to other purposes rather than denying you your freedom. Fortunately, it's not so simple to force your freedom upon others. Alas, I would have to dedicate resources to deny receiving your emails. Do you seriously want to deny other ppl the freedom to dedicate their resources to what they want to dedicate them to by forcing them to dedicate them to denying receiving your emails instead? If you do, I vote that you should not be allowed to post to this mailing list. And now tell us: What would be the point of having the freedom to express your opinion when nobody hears it because everyone has decided to ignore or not to receive what you are saying? -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87k35hvgh9@yun.yagibdah.de
git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it
Hi, how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without first fetching or pulling the remote repo? Assume that I have a local copy, say cloned yesterday. Today I would like to be informed automatically of new commits without fetching or pulling from the remote repo. It would suffice to know whether there have been new commits or not. 'git log -1 --date=relative --format=%at' gives me a very useful output for my local instance of the repo, but there doesn't seem to be any way to get this kind of output for the remote repo. Or is there? -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87sik5vi4j@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide
Martin Read zen75...@zen.co.uk writes: On 31/08/14 14:21, lee wrote: It doesn't even have decent documentation Opinions appear to vary on this matter; ISTR that when the TC were called upon to decide on the default init system for jessie, Russ Allbery experimented with all three of the proposed replacements and found systemd to be the best-documented out of sysvinit, upstart, systemd, and openrc. When documentation for A and B are worse than the documentation for C, that doesn't mean that the documentation for C doesn't suck. One example for outstanding documentation is the documentation of exim. Is there anything for systemd that would come even remotely close? and makes things that are easily done with sysvinit a very difficult and cumbersome task which requires a lot of trial and error because you can't figure out what it actually does how. Could you provide a specific example, so that we can see the severity and extent of the problem? run squid-2.7 on Fedora 20, being started and shut down automatically That was a nightmare to get to work with systemd. With sysvinit, it would have been a very simple task. Ever since I tried, I hate systemd. Another example is that the devs even refuse to fix the bug with their misunderstanding of the meaning of disabled. When I consider that they don't even understand what disabled means and when I look at the documentation, I really wonder what kind of awful mess the source code of systemd might be. Does anyone know how old these ppl are? You can also find examples in posts to the Fedora users' mailing list where ppl have figured out that systemd doesn't start things in the right order --- which might be more due to the package managers or devs being confused about things than to some sort of malfunction of systemd. However, it can be taken as an indication that the confusion and obfuscation systemd is encumbered with has begun to take its toll on everyone. IIRC, some ppl on that list have suspected that once RHEL users find out that systemd screws up booting their machines big time and starts to create all kinds of problems Redhat might face a problem they need to solve. However, I have unsubscribed from that list because I will have no part in the Fedora Projects' philosophy of trying to tell ppl what they have to think. Besides, I also don't like their extreme disregard of their users which makes their claim that they want to lead the advancement of FOSS totally ridiculous at best and otherwise evil. For another example, see the thread here: Errors at login : in which log can I get the message ? Why can't systemd use logfiles which I can read? That it can't already removes it from my list of usable software because I will need readable log files as soon as I have to fix a problem. Some ppl on the Fedora list reported that the system won't even boot when the binary file systemd uses to write what otherwise would be log entries to is damaged in some way. Congratulations to the devs if they are really that retarded! Are there any signs that they will fix such problems? Even when they fix them, systemd still turns the system into a black-box, and it may be time to find an alternative to Linux which is reliable. Perhaps I need to start looking at FreeBSD? Or at what? -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87oautvh7c@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: backup drive has died.
Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com writes: Last night my backup drive died and is now totally unresponsive, but it did give this error message when I tried to access it - Error mounting /dev/sde1 at /media/boudiccas/back1: Command-line `mount -t ext4 -o uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid /dev/sde1 /media/boudiccas/back1' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sde1, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so Is there any way in which I can access the contents of the drive please? Try to mount it with appropriate options? Either you can mount it and use it without errors, especially sector errors, or you can't. When you get sector errors or when the drive becomes unresponsive in some way, or when it makes grinding or clunking noises, replace the drive. Besides, USB drives are not suited for backups. Actually, they aren't really suited for anything unless any reliability whatsoever can be omitted. -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87r3zptzin@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: brasero requires gvfs
Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net writes: On 09/02/2014 07:35 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Tue, 02 Sep 2014, Rob Owens wrote: - Original Message - From: Michael Biebl bi...@debian.org Am 02.09.2014 22:18, schrieb Rob Owens: I removed the systemd package from my Jessie system, and it took brasero with it. Brasero depends on gvfs, and gvfs has some trail of dependencies that leads to systemd. I'm thinking that the gvfs dependency doesn't make sense for brasero, but I wanted to get input from this list before I file a bug against brasero. Can anybody think of a valid reason why brasero should depend on gvfs? brasero depends on gvfs so it can detect removable media. For a burning application this is pretty much essential. Ah, I was thinking about the SMB:// features and things like that. I didn't realize gvfs was used to detect removable media. Also, brasero is a GNOME app. So, it's going to have GNOME dependencies to work properly. If you're using the default XFCE desktop with Jessie, why not try XFCE's xfburn instead. On my GNOME-free (Openbox only) Wheezy system, I use it. Runs fine for what little burning I do. B It didn't need systemd before, so why should it need it now? Debian has decided to feature several init systems, so any dependency on an init system you're not using because you're using another one is a bug that needs to be reported and fixed. -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87iol1txtc@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: Bibletime encoding problem
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:17 AM, Johann Spies johann.sp...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 September 2014 15:01, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote: ouch. bibletime-data - Documentation and data for bibletime, a bible study tool does that not help thou? Doth it help thee not? Mmmm, no, that isn't quite right. Punt: Art thou not holpen thereby? Mayhap, hadst thou shown the incurred error message thou mightest be helped forthwith. :) Grapjas! :) Dankie. En jy is welkom. (Courtesy translate.google.com . ;) No error messages. Just output like this: �� p�� 1 01� 2 x �͒ 3 �d� 4 x �͒ 5 x �͒ 6 ��� 7 x �͒ 8 x �͒ 9 x �͒ 10 x �͒ 11 x �͒ 12 x �͒ 13 14 x �͒ 15 x �͒ 16 x �͒ 17 x �͒ 18 x �͒ 19 � 20 x �͒ 21 x �͒ 22 x �͒ 23 о� 24 x �͒ 25 x �͒ 26 x �͒ 27 x �͒ 28 x �͒ 29 x �͒ 30 x �͒ 31 x �͒ Have you checked the logs? (I'm always forgetting to do that, myself.) What I would do is open a shell window, bring up some garbled output in bibletime, and then do ls -lart /var/log to see if it generated any log messages. Then, assuming something.log comes up in the right time frame, use tail -40 /var/log/something.log or maybe even tail -400 to go far enough back. If you switch to a virtual console rather than use a terminal app, you'll need to pipe through more or less: tail -400 /var/log/something.log | less Some of the logs will require you to raise privileges: sudo tail -400 /var/log/messages If you can read that, wonderful! Well, no, you're going to have to capture the text before the substitution takes place and send it in a plaintext mail instead of html/rich text if you want me to try to read it. If you are on a tablet, don't use google's mail app from the playstore. You'll need a mail app that can send the text plain. (At least, I haven't found a way to send plaintext from that.) The things I'd do to try to read it -- first, I'd try to get it into a file. Unfortunately, most text editors are too helpful these days, so you'll end up doing something like tr \n \n garbled.text then paste the garbled text in and hit ctrl-d to end it. If what you get in garbled.text looks exactly like what you pasted in, the substitution had already occurred by the time you got it copied. You can check with hexdump: hexdump -C garbled.text | less and if you see a lot of ef bf bd sequences, that's the Unicode substitution character and your copy is definitely too late. If garbled.text looks like it might actually contain some text you're trying to look at, you can try opening it with a unicode-aware text editor like gedit. Usually, you have to get a blank document up, then use the file-open menu to open the file, but remember to select the assumed encoding, UTF-8 or one of the legacy encodings, before you hit the open button. You'll likely need to add encodings to the dialog, as well, to get your legacy encoding into the list of selectable encodings. You may have to delete an octet or two from the front to get started. (cut command in a shell, redirecting to garbled2.text or something so you don't lose what you're trying to work with.) You apparently did not read my email properly:) Well, I assume that Chris was wondering whether you had read, for example, http://www.bibletime.info/en/about/frequently-asked-questions and, say, the installation and tutorial sections of https://sites.google.com/site/bibledit/ Enjoy your day. Bibletime is not really what I'd call end-user. Very much a work in progress, a tool for translators who are willing to put up with some rough edges. It can be used for reading and research, but it's more in the line of a tool for collaboration. (Which isn't a bad thing, really, but you have to expect a bit of a learning curve.) (And if I want a Japanese translation of the Bible available for it, it looks like I'm going to be the one setting the project up and leading/doing the translation, and negotiating with the JBS.) Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3) -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart, and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAAr43iNaOQOYnW8=w+vsuidrgwaa-zysvoufepkfpz-rxl+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Choose your side on the Linux divide
On Sat, 6 Sep 2014, lee wrote: Zenaan Harkness z...@freedbms.net writes: On 8/28/14, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 27 August 2014 22:51:13 Steve Litt wrote: you shouldn't express your opinion! Of course you should express your opinion, but not over and over and over and over again ad nauseam and beyond. We all know your opinion. Please give it a rest. I shall have to amend my previous statement: The Internet is my pulpit, no matter -what- I have to say, and no matter *how *many times* I want to say it, and debian-user@ldo was created for me to repeat what I want to say, so y'all get to hear it repeatedly, until I'm satisfied that everyone has truly heard what I want to say! Neither this mailing list, nor the internet was created for you any more than for anyone else, and I doubt it was created for the purpose of ppl repeating themselves all the time. Anything less is denying me my freedom to express my opinion. So if you don't like it, go swing the Debian COC past us all and prove me wrong. Unfortunately, that's arguable: You are using other ppl's resources to express your opinion. Should I, for example, decide not to receive your emails, I might simply be dedicating my resources to other purposes rather than denying you your freedom. Fortunately, it's not so simple to force your freedom upon others. Alas, I would have to dedicate resources to deny receiving your emails. Do you seriously want to deny other ppl the freedom to dedicate their resources to what they want to dedicate them to by forcing them to dedicate them to denying receiving your emails instead? If you do, I vote that you should not be allowed to post to this mailing list. And now tell us: What would be the point of having the freedom to express your opinion when nobody hears it because everyone has decided to ignore or not to receive what you are saying? unless i am mistaken, tptb have already made that decision for everyone on the listserv, and banished zenaan. consquently, wrt this list, (1) zenaan cannot express himself here, and (2) we cannot decide whether to listen to him. i hereby dub your last question the Koan of Silence. -wes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.02.1409052047410.29...@brutus.ling.ohio-state.edu
Re: Bibletime encoding problem
Just output like this: 27 x�͒ 28 x�͒ 29 x�͒ 30 x�͒ 31 x�͒ Looks like Bibletime Mandarin -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c6v5r4f4mj...@mid.individual.net
Re: Make n-m not touch WWAN
On 9/5/2014 2:10 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 05.09.2014 21:14, schrieb Matt Ventura: I don't recall this happening until recent updates, but on my laptop with testing installed, any time network-manager starts/restarts, it will rfkill my WWAN card. I use the card exclusively as a GPS, so I want n-m to pretend it doesn't exist. Is there something like unmanaged-devices but for WWAN cards? You could try something like [keyfile] unmanaged-devices=mac:00:11:22:33:44:55 in /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf But the problem is that the card doesn't actually expose any network interface until I tell n-m to actually connect to a cellular network with the card (I don't have a plan for the card so it obviously fails). Even then, it's just a ppp interface with no MAC address, so I don't know what I would put in the config. This bug seems to be deeper though. When I rfkill unblock the card, after some time the option in n-m applet's context menu to enable mobile broadband will appear. However, if I enable this option and disable it, it will rfkill the card and I will lose that option to toggle it in the menu. It looks like this is a bug with how n-m handles the card. The card (Sierra Wireless MC5725) will drop off the USB entirely, so I guess n-m thinks the card is gone and doesn't give me the option to re-enable it. As for why it disables it to begin with, it appears that if you have the Mobile Broadband option disabled in the menu, it will rfkill the card for you. Except in this case, it becomes a chicken-and-egg problem because it ends up hiding the card from itself and thinking it doesn't exist, thus not giving me the option to enable it to begin with. I'll probably file a bug report somewhere about this, but in the meantime, is there a way to just get it to ignore the card? Or does enabling mobile broadband in the menu activate the card without really doing anything? I don't want it using any unnecessary cpu/mem/power compared to before the update that broke this. Matt Ventura -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540a6d90.5060...@mattventura.net
Re: Make n-m not touch WWAN
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:12:32 -0700 Matt Ventura mattvent...@mattventura.net wrote: I'll probably file a bug report somewhere about this, but in the meantime, is there a way to just get it to ignore the card? Or does enabling mobile broadband in the menu activate the card without really doing anything? I don't want it using any unnecessary cpu/mem/power compared to before the update that broke this. Ace Ventura You can fill a bug if you want, but I don't think it one. The problem is the MODEM is apparently not dissociable from the GPS. If it is really so, you're stuck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140906042452.37ee5705@msi.defcon1
Re: Make n-m not touch WWAN
On 9/5/2014 7:24 PM, B wrote: On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:12:32 -0700 Matt Venturamattvent...@mattventura.net wrote: I'll probably file a bug report somewhere about this, but in the meantime, is there a way to just get it to ignore the card? Or does enabling mobile broadband in the menu activate the card without really doing anything? I don't want it using any unnecessary cpu/mem/power compared to before the update that broke this. Ace Ventura You can fill a bug if you want, but I don't think it one. The problem is the MODEM is apparently not dissociable from the GPS. If it is really so, you're stuck. They're dissociable in that they share a control channel (ttyUSB0 = control, ttyUSB1 = data, ttyUSB2 = GPS output) and they share the rfkill. However, before some update at some point (I don't know where exactly because ironically I used to have my rc.local rfkill the card to save some battery life since I didn't need GPS), n-m would allow me to leave the card in that state where I don't Mobile Broadband in the menu is disabled, but it didn't rfkill the card. If having MB enabled but not connected to any network does exactly the same thing, then that would be an acceptable solution to my problem. I can live with this regression since it's a bit of a corner case, but there's definitely at least one bug in all of this: it shouldn't be removing the option to (re)enable the card because it no longer sees it. Matt Ventura -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540a750e.4000...@mattventura.net
Re: Make n-m not touch WWAN
On Fri, 05 Sep 2014 19:44:30 -0700 Matt Ventura mattvent...@mattventura.net wrote: They're dissociable in that they share a control channel (ttyUSB0 = control, ttyUSB1 = data, ttyUSB2 = GPS output) and they share the rfkill. (Could it be a rfkill bug?) Anyway, you're right: fill a bug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140906045139.517b3624@msi.defcon1
Re: finding a dependency chain
On 9/3/14, Rob Owens row...@ptd.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com I just used vim to search through debtree's .dot output (for such a complex thing, way easier than trying to look at the image file), and then followed up by looking around in aptitude interactive mode. Thanks. That is much easier than looking at the image file! I'd still like to find a method to specify the start point and end point, and get output of a single dependency chain. If anybody knows a way, please post it. Found something the other day while scouring the Net to fix some or another issue here. Am sure this is probably not doing quite what you're seeking. Hoping it's still maybe a start for training some program to do that since it's already (unverified so allegedly) reporting ALL dependencies.. If it's a far lesser [function] than what you've already been chatting about, I'd love to hear the difference. Really trying to learn this stuff inside out.. Hoping to contribute sooner than later. :) The command is: apt-cache showpkg packageName It outputs this (apologies, is a little extensive but decided to leave intact): ++ elf@northpole:~$ apt-cache showpkg wvdial Package: wvdial Versions: 1.61-4.1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) Description Language: File: /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages MD5: b8bf30c8dfd4d09e02af74bf497505d6 Description Language: en File: /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_i18n_Translation-en MD5: b8bf30c8dfd4d09e02af74bf497505d6 1.61-4build1 (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-amd64_Packages) (/var/lib/dpkg/status) Description Language: File: /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages MD5: b8bf30c8dfd4d09e02af74bf497505d6 Description Language: en File: /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.kernel.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_i18n_Translation-en MD5: b8bf30c8dfd4d09e02af74bf497505d6 Reverse Depends: wvdial:i386,wvdial wader-core,wvdial lubuntu-desktop,wvdial ichthux-desktop,wvdial gnome-ppp,wvdial usb-modeswitch,wvdial wvdial:i386,wvdial wader-core,wvdial usb-modeswitch,wvdial gnome-ppp,wvdial Dependencies: 1.61-4.1 - ppp (2 2.3.0) debconf (18 0.5.00) cdebconf (0 (null)) libc6 (2 2.3.4) libgcc1 (2 1:4.1.1) libstdc++6 (2 4.1.1) libuniconf4.6 (0 (null)) libwvstreams4.6-base (0 (null)) libwvstreams4.6-extras (0 (null)) debconf (18 0.5) debconf-2.0 (0 (null)) wvdial:i386 (0 (null)) 1.61-4build1 - ppp (2 2.3.0) debconf (18 0.5.00) cdebconf (0 (null)) libc6 (2 2.4) libstdc++6 (2 4.1.1) libuniconf4.6 (0 (null)) libwvstreams4.6-base (0 (null)) libwvstreams4.6-extras (0 (null)) debconf (18 0.5) debconf-2.0 (0 (null)) wvdial:i386 (0 (null)) Provides: 1.61-4.1 - 1.61-4build1 - Reverse Provides: ++ Hoping that's on topic.. In particular, having that as a latest personal find just showed me how much average users are probably not tapping anywhere near what's available to us in Debian and its derivatives.. Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAO1P-kC_QfQMiVu4xFRM4-GHt9-yqHmk7+Sm7_e-UUor3bh2=g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: git: how to figure out with a script what the last commit on remote repo is without fetching it
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 7:04 AM, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote: Hi, how would I figure out what the last commit to a remote repo was without first fetching or pulling the remote repo? Assume that I have a local copy, say cloned yesterday. Today I would like to be informed automatically of new commits without fetching or pulling from the remote repo. It would suffice to know whether there have been new commits or not. 'git log -1 --date=relative --format=%at' gives me a very useful output for my local instance of the repo, but there doesn't seem to be any way to get this kind of output for the remote repo. Or is there? -- Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power. The more I think about this, the more I think you are trying to do something the hard way. Is setting your head and running a diff or status insufficient? If so, I'm tending to think you might want two local repositories, one to track the remote, and one that you work in. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart, and ask yourself if you are not your own worst enemy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caar43in-37eensltqrsqnfy1pkumczkhq7d_8hs-ksvfnry...@mail.gmail.com
Re: backup drive has died.
On 09/05/2014 07:32 PM, lee wrote: Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com writes: Is there any way in which I can access the contents of the drive please? Try to mount it with appropriate options? Either you can mount it and use it without errors, especially sector errors, or you can't. When you get sector errors or when the drive becomes unresponsive in some way, or when it makes grinding or clunking noises, replace the drive. I revived a drive by purchasing a replacement drive PCB board for it. It was cheap enough, and the data on it valuable enough, to spring $30 for it in hopes that it would work. It did and I got the data off toot sweet. Check places on the net like this one: http://www.hddzone.com/ -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540a9c4b.3040...@gmail.com
Re: Foto's gecomprimeerd mailen
De beste oplossing zou volgens mij zijn om dit simpelweg niet te doen, en intern of extern een foto of bestand upload systeempje te regelen en dan een link hier naartoe maken in de mail. Wil je toch via mail versturen, dan zou je nog via Nautilus een plugin kunnen maken die de geselecteerde bestanden comprimeert en vervolgens ofwel Enigmail aanroept met het gecomprimeerde bestand als parameter, ofwel zelfstandig de mail kan versturen. Als je mail wilt sturen naar een ander bedrijf dan loop je toch al snel tegen mail grootte limieten aan, dus gewoon een file upload lijkt mij veruit te preveren. Dropbox of een zakelijke variant hiervan. Met vriendelijke groeten, Germ van Ek Esyst BV - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van: Paul van der Vlis p...@vandervlis.nl Aan: debian-user-dutch debian-user-dutch@lists.debian.org Verzonden: Maandag 1 september 2014 11:47:49 Onderwerp: Re: Foto's gecomprimeerd mailen op 31-08-14 13:52, Jan-Rens Reitsma schreef: Bestaan er al camera's die foto's kunnen maken van 1,5 GB in .jpg formaat? (Het lijkt me sterk, maar ik houd de ontwikkelingen op het gebied van de digitale fotografie allang niet meer bij.) Lijkt me niet. RAW foto's kunnen wel groot zijn. Hoe denk je dan dat bijvoorbeeld Enigmail werkt? Als ik in de source van Enigmail kijk dan zie ik in elk geval verschillende directories met JavaScript-, Python- en C++-files. (IDL = C++ voor XPCOM-interfaces van Mozilla. Ik bedoelde dat je bepaalde JavaScript-functies in DHTML/XHTML, om veiligheidsredenen, meestal niet kunt gebruiken.) Ik denk dat de XPCOM-interfaces in de eerste plaats nodig zijn om Enigmail door Thunderbird/Icedove als module te kunnen laden. Misschien kan Enigmail ook door andere applicaties met een geschikte XPCOM-interface gebruikt worden. Wat ik wou zeggen is dat Enigmail GPG kan aanroepen, dus een extern programma op je sysstem. In elk geval werkt het zo onder Debian. Volgens mij is het belangrijk om vanaf het begin precies te begrijpen wat het probleem is, want anders weet je niet waar je moet beginnen en waar je moet uitkomen. Ik begrijp niet precies wat het probleem van jouw klant is. De (gecomprimeerde) plaatjes moeten van schijf (eventueel dmv een Nautilus-plugin) door Icedove als attachment aan mailtjes toegevoegd worden, begrijp ik. Klopt. Wil je klant veel mailtjes, met een enkele afbeelding in de bijlage, versturen? Of hoeft hij maar weinig mailtjes te versturen met veel afbeeldingen in de bijlage? Weinig mailtjes met vaak veel afbeeldingen. Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540440c5.50...@vandervlis.nl
Re: Foto's gecomprimeerd mailen
op 05-09-14 09:45, Germ van Ek | Esyst schreef: De beste oplossing zou volgens mij zijn om dit simpelweg niet te doen, en intern of extern een foto of bestand upload systeempje te regelen en dan een link hier naartoe maken in de mail. Er zit wel wat in wat je zegt, maar ik geloof dat ik toch liever foto's per mail verstuur. Dat is toch meer private. Wil je toch via mail versturen, dan zou je nog via Nautilus een plugin kunnen maken die de geselecteerde bestanden comprimeert Naar zo'n soort oplossing was ik dus op zoek. en vervolgens ofwel Enigmail aanroept met het gecomprimeerde bestand als parameter, ofwel zelfstandig de mail kan versturen. Het lijkt me zinniger om het default e-mail programma op de computer aan te roepen. Dat kan desgewenst ook encryptie regelen. Weet hier iemand toevallig of je ook een webmail programma kunt instellen als je default e-mail programma? Als je mail wilt sturen naar een ander bedrijf dan loop je toch al snel tegen mail grootte limieten aan, Dat was vroeger wel een punt, maar tegenwoordig valt dat reuze mee. Zeker als je de foto's eerst comprimeert. Overigens gaat het om private mail. dus gewoon een file upload lijkt mij veruit te preveren. Dropbox of een zakelijke variant hiervan. Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54097673.4080...@vandervlis.nl
Re: Power management en herrie van de fan's
op 05-09-14 09:38, Germ van Ek | Esyst schreef: Wij hebben zelf hier een Qnap draaien, hier zit ook een x86 processortje in. Ik bedoelde een Qnap met een ARM processor. Die zijn namelijk veel zuiniger dam eem X86 processor. Zo uit mijn hoofd 7 watt of zoiets! En ze werken ook met Debian. Groet, Paul. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/540977d6.3040...@vandervlis.nl
Re: Foto's gecomprimeerd mailen
On 09/05/2014 11:40 AM, Paul van der Vlis wrote: op 05-09-14 11:26, Jan-Rens Reitsma schreef: Ik zag dat de afbeeldingen van 3000x4000 px van mijn (niet zo nieuwe, goedkope) pocketcamera tussen de 2,7 en 6,0 MB groot zijn. De afbeeldingen van 1,5 MB van je klant zijn dus niet groot te noemen. Verder comprimeren, tot (ver) onder de 100 kB, levert volgens mij een fors kwaliteitsverlies op. Dat klopt, maar de foto's hoeven niet te worden afgedrukt, alleen op een scherm bekeken. Foto's van onder de 100 KB zijn goed genoeg denk ik. Maar mocht dat niet zo zijn dan kan het wat worden bijgesteld. Ik denk dat Marktplaats de foto's nog een converteert om ze aan het gewenste formaat op hun site aan te passen. Dat levert weer (een klein beetje?) kwaliteitsverlies op. Wil je klant veel mailtjes, met een enkele afbeelding in de bijlage, versturen? Of hoeft hij maar weinig mailtjes te versturen met veel afbeeldingen in de bijlage? Weinig mailtjes met vaak veel afbeeldingen. Zouden je klanten tegen een limiet aanlopen omdat ze met sommige emails te veel plaatjes in de bijage proberen te versturen? Dat probleem los je met het verder comprimeren van de plaatjes niet op. Ze lopen niet tegen limieten aan als ze 20 MB aan foto's versturen. En dat zijn dan nog maar 14 foto's. Met 100 kB zouden je klanten zonder probleem 200 foto's kunnen versturen begrijp ik. Als die foto's gecomprimeerd worden zal er dus al helemaal geen probleem zijn. Als ze niet tegen een limiet aanlopen, wat is het probleem dan? Ik zou liever iets anders willen dan een script. Een plugin of een programma. Als ik me niet vergis gaat het om een gebruiksvriendelijke toepassing (= GUI?) voor je klanten. Je kunt toch een GUI met de nodige toeters, bellen en ballonnen aan je script (laten) maken? Dan heb je een programma. Is dat geen oplossing? Ik zal binnenkort shrunked-image-resizer gaan proberen. Maar zoals ik al schreef werkt de actuele versie niet met Icedove 24 uit stable. Dus ik wacht nog even op Icedove 31. Als je alleen een GUI voor een conversiescript nodig hebt, dan wil ik wel proberen om in mijn vrije tijd in Python (of eventueel in Java of Qt) een geschikte GUI voor je te maken. Ik heb nog geen ervaring met het ontwerpen van GUI's in Python (of in Qt). (Eerlijk gezegd ben ik niet dol op het ontwikkelen van GUI's. Van origine ben ik namelijk geen IT'er maar een rekenaar.) Groeten, Jan-Rens. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54099824.6030...@gmail.com
Re: Power management en herrie van de fan's
On 01-09-14 14:01, Frans van Berckel wrote: Hoi, Hoe zou jij dat doen? Wil een server, als deze niet zoveel te doen heeft, wat minder vermogen laten verbruiken. Staat toch 24 * 7 aan. Lees wat minder warmte stoken en dus wat minder herrie van de fan's. Heb je hier ervaring mee? Welke stappen heb jij ondernomen? Ik heb zelf twee servers hier thuis staan. In de meterkast staat een kleine energiezuinige ARM server met SSD. Die doet vooral routing en wat kleine server taken. Deze is helemaal passief gekoeld (met een externe voeding) en gebruikt weinig stroom. Voor de meeste taken is 'ie ruim voldoende. Alleen als iets echt processor intensief wordt of veel disk I/O nodig heeft, merk je zijn beperkingen. Daarnaast heb ik achter de bank een grote server staan die dienst doet als fileserver / backupserver / media server / PVR. Op dat systeem draai ik ook een lading virtuele machines voor mijn testomgeving en transcodeer ik ook regelmatig films etc. Die server heeft een standaard (lees: energie vretende) intel processor, een SSD voor het OS en HDD's in raid opstelling voor de bestanden. Het is een zeer ruim bemeten kast met geluidsisolatie, stille case fans, stille voeding en stille CPU-fan. De HDD's zijn met rubberen dopjes trillingsvrij gemonteerd (etc). Beide servers zijn al behoorlijk oud. Van de grote server heb ik indertijd de case, de fans en CPU-koeler bij ikbenstil gekocht, maar toen ik recent een stille computer voor mijn schoonouders samenstelde viel het me op dat inmiddels ook bij gewone winkels stille componenten goed verkrijgbaar zijn. Uit je vraag wordt mij niet helemaal duidelijk of het je vooral om het stil gaat of vooral om het energiezuinige. Dat zijn namelijk twee verschillende dingen: ook energie zuinige systemen kunnen een irritant fannetje hebben en zoals mijn tweede systeem bewijst kan een flink opgetuigd actief gekoeld systeem ook doodstil zijn. Natuurlijk geldt wel: hoe minder warmte een systeem produceert, hoe makkelijker het stil te maken is. En tegenovergesteld: op het moment dat je twee zware videokaarten in je systeem gaat zetten, wordt natuurlijk een stuk moeilijker om alles op een stille manier koel te houden. Zelf reeds naar sensors en fancontrol zitten kijken. Dat kan wel iets helpen: ik heb een systeem staan met een i3 processor waarvan de load doorgaans verwaarloosbaar is. Die produceert dan zo weinig hitte dat de stock koeler van de i3 (die niet als echt stil bekend staat) zo langzaam kan draaien dat je nog steeds niets hoort. Op systemen met een zwaardere belasting heb ik slechtere ervaring met fancontrol: knijpen levert dan al snel hogere temperaturen op en dat betekent minder betrouwbaarheid. Het zelfde geldt voor passieve voedingen. Op nauwelijks belaste of zeer energie zuinige systemen kan je of een case fan of je voedingsfan weglaten. Maar in de andere gevallen ga je het toch in de temperatuur merken. En een goede voeding met een stille fan is ook (zo goed als) onhoorbaar. groet, Winfried -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5409b65a.5040...@tilanus.com
Re: Foto's gecomprimeerd mailen
Paul van der Vlis: Ik zou liever iets anders willen dan een script. Een plugin of een programma. Waar ik nou met mijn boerenverstand aan zit te denken. Alle pas gemaakte, nieuwe foto's dient men in een bepaalde map te zetten, b.v. met de naam originele_foto's. Je maakt een script dat het volgende doet: - Alle foto's die in originele_foto's staan, worden verkleind neergezet in een map met de naam emailfoto's; - originele_foto's wordt leeggemaakt; - het mailprogramma wordt gestart. Alle foto's die je voor het mailen zou kunnen gebruiken, zijn nu te vinden in de map emailfoto's. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140905154923.e84d4f7b.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
