Re: problema de seguretat a USB

2014-10-03 Thread alex

Pedro va escriure:


Algú té més informació sobre això?

[anglès]
http://www.wired.com/2014/07/usb-security/

[castellà]
http://www.omicrono.com/2014/07/un-fallo-de-usb-convierte-cualquier-dispositivo-usb-en-un-arma-para-hackers/



Hola

Es tracta de reescriure el firmware de l'usb, que normalment no ve 
protegit de cap manera, per fer tot tipus de atac quan algú treballa amb 
l'usb:


  https://srlabs.de/badusb/

Les transparències de la xerrada són a:

  
https://srlabs.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/SRLabs-BadUSB-BlackHat-v1.pdf


La novetat respecte fa un mes és que el ni el codi ni l'eina eren 
disponibles, pero ahir unaltre grup de gent han creat nou codi per fer 
això, i sí l'han fet disponible:


  http://www.wired.com/2014/10/code-published-for-unfixable-usb-attack/

El codi penja a:

  https://github.com/adamcaudill/Psychson

salut


Alex


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Perte du boot graphique automatique avec gdm3

2014-10-03 Thread andre_debian
Le boot automatique ne fonctionne plus
avec la dernière version de gdm3 :
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758183

André

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DNS

2014-10-03 Thread Christian Ottié

Bonjour,


Il m'est arrivé un truc bizarre hier soir.

Vers 21h, plus d'accès Internet depuis mon PC sous Wheezy.
Depuis le PC de mon fils sous Windows 7, pas de pb.
Depuis un autre PC que j'avais commencé à configurer sous Wheezy la 
semaine passée, idem, pas de connexion.

Depuis un portable sous 7, ça marche.
Depuis un netbook sous LUbuntu, ça marche,
Depuis ma TV (Panasonic), pas de connexion.
J'ai booté toutes mes machine sur une clé USB Debian Live, pas de connexion.

Donc c'est un pb propre à Debian (et à ma TV) qui ne voit plus le DNS. 
Alors que pour Ubuntu et Windows 7, ça marche.

Confirmé avec nslookup : timeout

Et je suis allé me coucher (la nuit étant sensée porter conseil - et des 
fois que ça revienne tout seul...)


Ce matin, pareil, pas d'Internet.
Je suis allé modifier la config DHCP de ma FreeBox (on peut mettre 5 ip 
de DNS). J'avais, il y a longtemps, ajouté 4 DNS avant celui de ma 
FreeBox, pensant être tranquille en cas de pb du coté de mon FAI.
J'ai remplacé la première entrée par 8.8.8.8 (DNS Google - facile à 
retenir) et là, ça marche avec Debian.
Puis j'ai enlevé la première entrée ne laissant que les 4 suivantes, et 
là encore ça marche.


J'en déduit que Debian n'est pas capable de passer au DNS suivant en cas 
de timeout du premier. Alors que Windows 7 et LUbuntu le font.


Votre avis, bug ou pb de configuration ?


Cordialement,
Christian

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Nettoyage du spam : septembre 2014

2014-10-03 Thread jean-pierre giraud
Bonjour,
Comme nous sommes en octobre, il est désormais possible de
traiter les archives du mois de septembre 2014 des listes francophones.

N'oubliez bien sûr pas d'ajouter votre nom à la liste des relecteurs
pour que nous sachions où nous en sommes.

Détails du processus de nettoyage du spam sur :

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Re: DNS

2014-10-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Christian Ottié a écrit :
 
 Je suis allé modifier la config DHCP de ma FreeBox (on peut mettre 5 ip 
 de DNS). J'avais, il y a longtemps, ajouté 4 DNS avant celui de ma 
 FreeBox, pensant être tranquille en cas de pb du coté de mon FAI.
 J'ai remplacé la première entrée par 8.8.8.8 (DNS Google - facile à 
 retenir) et là, ça marche avec Debian.
 Puis j'ai enlevé la première entrée ne laissant que les 4 suivantes, et 
 là encore ça marche.
 
 J'en déduis que Debian n'est pas capable de passer au DNS suivant en cas 
 de timeout du premier.

Si, puisque c'est une propriété du resolver de la libc.
Par contre la page de manuel de resolv.conf indique que seulement trois
NS au maximum sont pris en compte. Cela signifie que si les trois
premiers NS ne répondent pas, alors la résolution échoue. En supprimant
la première entrée, tu as peut-être permis au resolver d'interroger le
précédemment 4e devenu 3e NS qui répond.

Ça vaudrait le coup de tester individuellement chacun des NS que tu
avais configurés avec dig, host ou nslookup selon tes préférences.

Concernant Windows et Ubuntu, je ne sais pas comment ils fonctionnent.
Tu peux comparer le contenu de /etc/resolv.conf sous Debian et Ubuntu.

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Re: DNS

2014-10-03 Thread Sylvain Tgz
Ok, la freebox fourni aux clients les adresses DHCP configurés. elle
ne fait pas relay.
Pour les DNS, si celui ci répond qu'il ne trouve pas l'adresse, c'est
tout de même une réponse, il n'essayera pas les autres DNS.



Si le problème réparait :
- ping le serveur DNS
- utilise dig @IPduserveurdns debian.org
- capture le flux via wireshark ou autre, cela permettra de pousser le
diagnostique.

(oups, je me suis loupé de destinataire pour mon premier message)

++
Tgz

Le 3 octobre 2014 16:50, Christian Ottié christian.ot...@laposte.net a écrit :
 Non, aucune configuration particulière sur les postes.
 Ils vont tous chercher l'ip du DNS dans la config DHCP de la FreeBox.
 Et là j'avais mis 4 ip de serveurs DNS 'publics'  et en 5e l'ip de la box.

 Le serveur DNS correspondant à la 1re ip de la liste est passé en timeout.

 Apparemment ça bloque Debian,
 Alors que LUbuntu et Seven sont passé outre et ont utilisé l'un des autres
 serveurs DNS de la liste.


 Le 03/10/2014 15:09, Sylvain Tgz a écrit :

 Hello,

 tous tes postes possède l'adresse IP de la box comme serveur DNS ?
 Tu n'a pas modifié les paramètres au niveau de tes postes ?

 Cdt,
 Tgz



 Le 3 octobre 2014 13:46, Christian Ottié christian.ot...@laposte.net a
 écrit :

 Bonjour,


 Il m'est arrivé un truc bizarre hier soir.

 Vers 21h, plus d'accès Internet depuis mon PC sous Wheezy.
 Depuis le PC de mon fils sous Windows 7, pas de pb.
 Depuis un autre PC que j'avais commencé à configurer sous Wheezy la
 semaine
 passée, idem, pas de connexion.
 Depuis un portable sous 7, ça marche.
 Depuis un netbook sous LUbuntu, ça marche,
 Depuis ma TV (Panasonic), pas de connexion.
 J'ai booté toutes mes machine sur une clé USB Debian Live, pas de
 connexion.

 Donc c'est un pb propre à Debian (et à ma TV) qui ne voit plus le DNS.
 Alors
 que pour Ubuntu et Windows 7, ça marche.
 Confirmé avec nslookup : timeout

 Et je suis allé me coucher (la nuit étant sensée porter conseil - et des
 fois que ça revienne tout seul...)

 Ce matin, pareil, pas d'Internet.
 Je suis allé modifier la config DHCP de ma FreeBox (on peut mettre 5 ip
 de
 DNS). J'avais, il y a longtemps, ajouté 4 DNS avant celui de ma FreeBox,
 pensant être tranquille en cas de pb du coté de mon FAI.
 J'ai remplacé la première entrée par 8.8.8.8 (DNS Google - facile à
 retenir)
 et là, ça marche avec Debian.
 Puis j'ai enlevé la première entrée ne laissant que les 4 suivantes, et
 là
 encore ça marche.

 J'en déduit que Debian n'est pas capable de passer au DNS suivant en cas
 de
 timeout du premier. Alors que Windows 7 et LUbuntu le font.

 Votre avis, bug ou pb de configuration ?


 Cordialement,
 Christian

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[Résolu][Testing] Problème d'autorisations nm

2014-10-03 Thread RHATAY Sami
Bonjour la liste,

du coup après quelques recherches j'ai réussi à résoudre mon problème.
Il y avait un conflit avec systemd : en effet logind et consolekit
fonctionnaient en même temps ce qui provoquait une erreur
d'authentification par polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1 :

 (polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1:13244): polkit-mate-1-WARNING **:
Unable to determine the session we are in: No session for pid 13244

Du coup, je suis passé à systemd avec le package systemd-sysv ... Et
tout est rentré dans l'ordre :-)

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Re: [Résolu][Testing] Problème d'autorisations nm

2014-10-03 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonsoir,

Le vendredi 03 octobre 2014 à 17:22, RHATAY Sami a écrit :
 Du coup, je suis passé à systemd avec le package systemd-sysv ... Et
 tout est rentré dans l'ordre :-)

Pour une fois que quelqu'un rapporte avoir débloqué une situation avec systemd,
ça mérite d'être souligné ;-)

Merci pour l'info.

Seb (en stable, loin des soucis liés à l'arrivée de systemd)

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Re: [Résolu][Testing] Problème d'autorisations nm

2014-10-03 Thread Erwan David
Le 03/10/2014 21:20, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit :
 Bonsoir,

 Le vendredi 03 octobre 2014 à 17:22, RHATAY Sami a écrit :
 Du coup, je suis passé à systemd avec le package systemd-sysv ... Et
 tout est rentré dans l'ordre :-)
 Pour une fois que quelqu'un rapporte avoir débloqué une situation avec 
 systemd,
 ça mérite d'être souligné ;-)

 Merci pour l'info.

 Seb (en stable, loin des soucis liés à l'arrivée de systemd)

On peut aussi interpréter ça comme un bug du paquet qui casse le support
des autres systèmes d'init...

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Re: Perte du boot graphique automatique avec gdm3

2014-10-03 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 03 October 2014 12:42:42 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
 Le boot automatique ne fonctionne plus
 avec la dernière version de gdm3 :
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758183

Connaissez vous un gestionnaire de connexion graphique autre que
gdm, kdm ou xdm.

Merci.

André

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Re: Perte du boot graphique automatique avec gdm3

2014-10-03 Thread Erwan David
Le 03/10/2014 22:20, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
 On Friday 03 October 2014 12:42:42 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
 Le boot automatique ne fonctionne plus
 avec la dernière version de gdm3 :
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758183
 Connaissez vous un gestionnaire de connexion graphique autre que
 gdm, kdm ou xdm.

 Merci.

 André

apt-cache search x-display-manager
gdm3 - GNOME Display Manager
kdm - KDE Display Manager for X11
lightdm - simple display manager
slim - desktop-independent graphical login manager for X11
wdm - WINGs Display Manager - an xdm replacement with a WindowMaker look
xdm - X display manager

Voilà, ça en fait donc 3 de plus...

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Re: Perte du boot graphique automatique avec gdm3

2014-10-03 Thread zecho
SLIM : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLiM

ou si tu n'as qu'une seule session, nodm :
http://geek-du-soir.blogspot.fr/2011/03/debian-nodm-pour-lancer-x-avec.html


On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 10:20:45PM +0200, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
 On Friday 03 October 2014 12:42:42 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
  Le boot automatique ne fonctionne plus
  avec la dernière version de gdm3 :
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758183
 
 Connaissez vous un gestionnaire de connexion graphique autre que
 gdm, kdm ou xdm.
 
 Merci.
 
 André
 
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Re: Perte du boot graphique automatique avec gdm3

2014-10-03 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Le vendredi 03 octobre 2014 à 22:27, Erwan David a écrit :
 Voilà, ça en fait donc 3 de plus...

Et s'il s'agit d'ouvrir automatiquement une session et toujours la même (un seul
utilisateur du système, ce qui me semble être le cas ici), il y a « nodm ».

Seb

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Re: [Résolu][Testing] Problème d'autorisations nm

2014-10-03 Thread Jérôme
Le Fri, 03 Oct 2014 21:22:49 +0200,
Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org a écrit :

 On peut aussi interpréter ça comme un bug du paquet qui casse le
 support des autres systèmes d'init...

+1

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Re: [Résolu][Testing] Problème d'autorisations nm

2014-10-03 Thread RHATAY Sami
Bonsoir la liste,

 On peut aussi interpréter ça comme un bug du paquet qui casse le support
 des autres systèmes d'init...

Justement je ne sais pas trop quoi penser, car c'est après une MAJ de
mon système que les problèmes ont commencé : logind gueulait au
démarrage, et provoquait un conflit avec consolekit .

Du coup, est-ce que ce pb ferait partie d'une migration progressive vers
systemd qui provoquerait de temps en temps des conflits ? Si c'est le
cas autant choisir de migrer totalement son système vers le nouvel init,
ce que j'ai fait... ou au contraire garder l'ancien. Mais pas les deux.

En tout cas je ne suis pas mécontent...j'avais peur de casser mon
système, mais ça va :-)

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Re: shockwave flash has crashed

2014-10-03 Thread Javier Silva
El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 15:10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:56:42 +0200, Javier Silva escribió:

 No acabo de comprender porque no hacen el pepper flash a partir de la
 versión ESR de flash player que necesita una versión de glibc inferior y
 además recibe las actualizaciones de seguridad correspondientes.

 Pues seguramente para no perder alguna funcionalidad.


Pues si con el 13 se pierden funcionalidades, con el que tenemos en
Linux con la NPAPI, que es la versión 11, ni te cuento ;-)


 Puedes instalar la versión de pepper flash que apareció con la versión
 35 de Chrome (pepflash 14.x), siendo consciente de que no vas a recibir
 actualizaciones de seguridad.

 De todas formas estos 2 navegadores quedan inservibles para aquellos que
 necesitan de forma habitual Java  y/o flash en Linux.

 Bueno, es un bug, lo resuelven y listo, tampoco hay que ponerse en plan
 dramático. Cosa distinta sería que dejaran de dar soporte
 intencionadamente.


Lo cierto es que Java no esté implementado en PPAPI para Linux,
representa un problema para aquellas personas que lo necesitan, no lo
puedo considerar un bug.


Saludos,
Javier Silva.


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 19:14, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:42:11 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 18:26, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 (...)

 Gracias por la ayuda seguiré mirando porque me sería muy útil.

 Sí, es raro, algo se nos escapa :-?

 Si algo se escapa...Yo insisto, creo que no se comporta igual que otro
 vncviewer, por ejemplo del paquete tightvnc, porque el vncviewer de
 tigervnc usa tls.

 Pero el manual de vncviewer es claro ¿no? Si existe la opción de
 introducir la contraseña a través de un archivo es que es posible hacerlo.

Claro, eso lo tengo clarísimo.

Lo que no es normal es que con tightvnc el client vncviewer se conecte
directamente, cambiando esa configuración en proxmox como he comentado
en el .conf de la VM, y en cambio el vncviewer de tigervnc no
conecta...No match security types...

Pero eso es otra historia. Voy a seguir mirando y probar.


 Siguiendo la doc de proxmox, he conseguido conectarme para clientes
 antiguos de vnc que no usan tls:

 (...)

 Añadiendo eso al .conf de la máquina virtual en cuestión, si le pones
 contraseña y se la pasas como parámetro entra a cañón...

 Pero claro, lo suyo es usar encriptación TLS, ya que sino viaja la
 contraseña en texto plano...

 Claro, además que el uso (o no) del canal cifrado no debería interferir
 con la posibilidad de usar el autologin.

 Dale un ojo a esta guía:

 VNC Into Remote Server Without Typing a Password
 http://www.dotkam.com/2009/03/22/vnc-into-remote-server-without-typing-
 a-password/

 Por cierto, el usuario será el mismo con el que has iniciado la sesión,
 si no hay ningún parámetro que te permita cambiarlo podrías intentar
 exportar la variable de entorno (export USER=usuario; vncviewer [bla,
 bla...]).

 Voy a revisar esto... También podría hacer un script y usar env para
 exportar la variable USER solo para ese script y no afectar a la global
 no??

 env -u sino recuerdo mal...así a bote pronto...

 Con ese comando entiendo que sólo le afectaría el cambio de variable a
 vncviewer.

Exacto.


 Saludos,

Saludos.


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Re: Sincronizar /var/www de tres servidores script en debian

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 0:44, Erick Ocrospoma
zipper1...@gmail.com escribió:


 2014-09-30 14:42 GMT-05:00 Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com:


 El 30/09/2014 21:37, Erick Ocrospoma zipper1...@gmail.com escribió:


 
 
 
  2014-09-30 14:22 GMT-05:00 Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com:
 
 
  El 30/09/2014 21:18, Fabián Bonetti mama21m...@riseup.net escribió:
 
 
  
   On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:08:09 +0200
   Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   Podes usar FTP
  
   $lftp -c open ftp://nodo2; mirror -ne /carperawww /var/www/nodo3
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   --
   Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/plus
   MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070, Buenos Aires,
   Argentina
 
  Gracias por contestar. Umm me gusta mas ssh, no quiero habilitar o
  instalar otro servicio para este menester.
 
  Leyendome la documentación de rsync creo que es suficiente, usando el
  -a, -P, -z, --delete y -v. Y realizando un script puede servirme.
 
  Estoy abierto a nuevas ideas.
 
  Saludos.
 
 
  Si no me equivoco puedes usar unison para más de 2 servidores en
  topología estrella.
 
 
  http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/download/releases/stable/unison-manual.html#usingmultiple
  http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5891745/unison-star-topology
 
  Lo que yo te recomendaría es que uses un FS en cluster (OCFS2) y
  compartas tu partición /var/www mediante red (iSCSI o FC), es decir montes
  un storage, de otro modo (o solución) es *muy* complicado que la data que 
  tu
  tengas sea (o se mantenga) consistente, por el mismo hecho de que tienes
  tres OS independientes que pueden escribir y/o modificar algo.
 
 
 
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 Gracias por contestar. No me gustan los sistemas distribuidos o
 compartidos para este fin. Pierden peefoemance. Y concretamente /var/www
 necesito que se sirva rápido. Aparte de usar sistema de cache opcode como
 xcache y similares. Además necesitaría otra máquina en el caso de iscsi.
 Ocfs2 o gfs lo he usado para drbd activo/activo y sinceramente no me fio.

 Pues si y no, es posible que puedas tener el servidor storage *en* tu mismo
 servidor web, sin embargo esto aumentará considerablemente el I/O, en estos
 casos lo recomendable es balancear la carga y bajarsela un poco a este
 servidor con el storage. Por otro lado, si bien son más lentos
 (literalmente) a comparación de un ambiente real, todo depende de dicho
 ambiente (tráfico, cantidad de usuarios por segundo, optimizaciones, etc) y
 también del hardware, el ancho de banda entre los servidores y los canales
 de comunicación debe ser lo más independiente y grande posible.

 DRBD es una solución muy buena (tanto así que RedHat se arrepintió de no
 darle soporte antes y lo empezó en RHEL6), pero también necesita estar
 configurado bien para llegar a un buen performance, si no me equivoco
 actualmente provee una algoritmo inteligente para el split-brain.

 También está un poco el tuning del filesystem.

 Y creo que la diferencia entre recomendarte un ambiente storage/clusterizado
 es la de proveer *consistencia* en tus datos, Unison en la medida de lo que
 hace es muy, muy bueno, pero por ejemplo en casos de split-brain tampoco
 ayuda mucho (o casi nada), tampoco ha sido diseñado para más de nodos aunque
 a pesar de eso no deje de ser posible. Si hay una interrupción de uno o más
 de tus servidores que utilizan Unison, o estos no pueden comunicarse asi de
 simple, será un lío inmenso asegurar que ambos tienen y tendrán la misma
 data repartida. Data consistente, como vuelvo a repetir. No tiene nada que
 ver con lo automático.

 Por último DRBD también puede usarse con 3 nodos, a diferencia que el
 tercero es un failover para uno de los dos primeros (que están en un modo
 master-master). Para la versión 9 (no del todo seguro pero es una versión
 superior) será posible utilizar más de dos nodos.

 Me gusta esta opción, lsyncd. No lo he probado nunca pero se ejecuta a
 nivel de demonio y se sincronizan solo los cambios.

 En /var/www se sincroniza todo menos los los, que con uníson los tenia
 excluidos. Solo sincronizaba el contenido estático, que no cambia.

 Voy a mirar el enlace que me has pasado.

 Gracias.




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Gracias a todos.

Tengo un montón de alternativas, que es lo que quería, aparte de aprender.

Intentaré aprovechar unison, ya que me ha ido bien, porque para una
sincronización puntual de ficheros estáticos que se modifican a mano,
no necesito más, y si no me convence probaré alguna de estas
alternativas que me habéis dicho.

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Re: BackupPC - Alguien lo usa? Cómo?

2014-10-03 Thread Mauro Antivero

El 02/10/14 a las 15:53, Fernando Vicios escibió:


El 02/10/14 20:40, Mauro Antivero escribió:
Estimados, estoy viendo de configurar un servidor (por ahora a modo 
de pruebas en una VM) de backups con BackupPC. Leyendo veo que uno de 
los métodos más usados para acceder a los distintos clientes es por 
un juego de llaves SSH, pero el problema es que el servidor necesita 
poder acceder como root a todos los clientes!


Como a mi no me gusta esta política de habilitar el acceso root por 
SSH (siempre accedo con un determinado usuario y luego escalo a root) 
me gustaría saber si alguien usa BackupPC cómo es que lo usa y que me 
sugiere.


En siguiente página:

http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/ssh.html

Dan unos cuantos tips sobre como mejorar la seguridad cuando se 
permite el acceso por SSH, pero por ahora no termina de cerrarme. Se 
que se pueden usar otros métodos de backup como rsync o rdiff-backup, 
de hecho ambos están implementados en distintos servidores, pero me 
gustaría empezar a utilizar BackupPC.


Cualquier sugerencia es bienvenida.

Saludos y gracias!

Mauro.




Buenas!

Las copias con rsync las realiza a través de SSH, yo lo tengo 
configurado así y utilizo sudo para permitir al usuario acceder a 
determinados directorios/ficheros o para ejecutar scripts que 
requieran privilegios de root.


Para la configuración de sudo tienes que hacer algunos cambios en la 
configuración del host pero no es nada del otro mundo, seguro que en 
google aparecen varios resultados si pones backuppc+sudo ; )
Si, esto está explicado en la página que puse más arriba, pero si 
solamente configurás sudo también hay un riesgo de seguridad, puesto que 
quien consiga acceso al servidor puede llenar el disco de los clientes 
(hasta que exploten :P).


Por supuesto que no debería ser fácil acceder al servidor, pero son 
medidas de seguridad que nunca están de más. Es por eso que todavía no 
implemento esta configuración.


Saludos, Mauro.


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Re: BackupPC - Alguien lo usa? Cómo?

2014-10-03 Thread Mauro Antivero

El 02/10/14 a las 16:43, Flako escibió:

El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 15:53, Fernando Vicios
fernando.vic...@gmail.com escribió:

El 02/10/14 20:40, Mauro Antivero escribió:

Estimados, estoy viendo de configurar un servidor (por ahora a modo de
pruebas en una VM) de backups con BackupPC. Leyendo veo que uno de los
métodos más usados para acceder a los distintos clientes es por un juego de
llaves SSH, pero el problema es que el servidor necesita poder acceder como
root a todos los clientes!


Con backuppc podes usar varios protocolos para hacer la copia  como
rsync, rsyncd, smb, tar,ftp,etc
si usas rsync usa rsync+ssh con los temas de permisos que cuentas..
Si usas rsyncd no usa ssh, usa los módulos que definis en
/etc/rsyc.conf y en este caso no necesitas ser root.
Bien, según me decís si uso rsync + ssh está el tema de los permisos 
debido a la necesidad de ser root, pero si uso rsyncd no tengo ese 
problema, solo que en este caso no sería segura la transmisión de los 
datos sobre la red cierto? Además de esto hay alguna otra desventaja?


Ya hay varios backups configurados con rsyncd o rdiff-backup, supongo 
que pasar a BackupPC con rsyncd será una mejora en cuanto a 
administración de todos los backups. A ustedes que les parece?


Saludos, Mauro.


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Re: BackupPC - Alguien lo usa? Cómo?

2014-10-03 Thread Mauro Antivero

El 02/10/14 a las 16:50, Erick Ocrospoma escibió:



2014-10-02 13:40 GMT-05:00 Mauro Antivero mauro.antiv...@gmail.com 
mailto:mauro.antiv...@gmail.com:


Estimados, estoy viendo de configurar un servidor (por ahora a
modo de pruebas en una VM) de backups con BackupPC. Leyendo veo
que uno de los métodos más usados para acceder a los distintos
clientes es por un juego de llaves SSH, pero el problema es que el
servidor necesita poder acceder como root a todos los clientes!


No sé si te entiendo bien, TU servidor (cliente) necesita acceso como 
root o es que eso es lo que estás entiendo que necesita BackupPC. Si 
es lo último, pues te digo que si es posible hacerlo como un usuario 
cualquiera, es más, la propia documentación te obliga practicamente a 
crear un usuario backuppc para poder obtener los backups.
Nono, el servidor que corre BackupPC necesita acceso como root a todos 
los clientes de los cuales se quiera hacer backups. Me podrías indicar 
la parte de la documentación donde te indica como hacerlo con un usuario 
cualquiera? Hasta donde yo leí si usás un usuario normal no podés tener 
acceso a todo el sistema de archivos, para eso necesitás permisos de 
root, lo cual lo podés asegurar un poco con sudo y alguna que otra 
cosita. Esto está explicado en esta página:


http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/ssh.html

Saludos, Mauro.



Como a mi no me gusta esta política de habilitar el acceso root
por SSH (siempre accedo con un determinado usuario y luego escalo
a root) me gustaría saber si alguien usa BackupPC cómo es que lo
usa y que me sugiere.

En siguiente página:

http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/ssh.html

Dan unos cuantos tips sobre como mejorar la seguridad cuando se
permite el acceso por SSH, pero por ahora no termina de cerrarme.
Se que se pueden usar otros métodos de backup como rsync o
rdiff-backup, de hecho ambos están implementados en distintos
servidores, pero me gustaría empezar a utilizar BackupPC.

Cualquier sugerencia es bienvenida.

Saludos y gracias!

Mauro.


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Re: Aviso para usuarios de testing (gnome-mines)

2014-10-03 Thread Pablo M. Drake

El 02/10/14 13:13, Camaleón escribió:

El Wed, 01 Oct 2014 18:10:26 +, Pablo M. Drake escribió:


El 01/10/14 13:32, Camaleón escribió:

No sabía que apt-listbugs sirviera para eso :-?

No te puedo confirmar porque no tengo instalado el paquete pero supongo
que si la actualización se realiza después de que exista el bug y de
que esté catalogado de forma que haga saltar a apt-listbugs (este
está marcado como Severity: serious) pues entiendo que sí.

Pero tampoco le veo yo ninguna gravedad al bug, vaya, se trata del
juego del buscaminas y efectos secundarios no he visto ninguno, más
allá de las rarezas naturales de gnome-shell y de que el paquete queda
pendiente de actualizar.


apt-listbugs viene como un paquete independiente o viene empaquetado en
apt ??

Sí, es un paquete independiente.

sm01@stt008:~$ apt-cache search listbugs
apt-listbugs - tool which lists critical bugs before each apt installation

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 3 de octubre de 2014, 8:51, Maykel Franco
maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 19:14, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 18:42:11 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 18:26, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 (...)

 Gracias por la ayuda seguiré mirando porque me sería muy útil.

 Sí, es raro, algo se nos escapa :-?

 Si algo se escapa...Yo insisto, creo que no se comporta igual que otro
 vncviewer, por ejemplo del paquete tightvnc, porque el vncviewer de
 tigervnc usa tls.

 Pero el manual de vncviewer es claro ¿no? Si existe la opción de
 introducir la contraseña a través de un archivo es que es posible hacerlo.

 Claro, eso lo tengo clarísimo.

 Lo que no es normal es que con tightvnc el client vncviewer se conecte
 directamente, cambiando esa configuración en proxmox como he comentado
 en el .conf de la VM, y en cambio el vncviewer de tigervnc no
 conecta...No match security types...

 Pero eso es otra historia. Voy a seguir mirando y probar.


 Siguiendo la doc de proxmox, he conseguido conectarme para clientes
 antiguos de vnc que no usan tls:

 (...)

 Añadiendo eso al .conf de la máquina virtual en cuestión, si le pones
 contraseña y se la pasas como parámetro entra a cañón...

 Pero claro, lo suyo es usar encriptación TLS, ya que sino viaja la
 contraseña en texto plano...

 Claro, además que el uso (o no) del canal cifrado no debería interferir
 con la posibilidad de usar el autologin.

 Dale un ojo a esta guía:

 VNC Into Remote Server Without Typing a Password
 http://www.dotkam.com/2009/03/22/vnc-into-remote-server-without-typing-
 a-password/

 Por cierto, el usuario será el mismo con el que has iniciado la sesión,
 si no hay ningún parámetro que te permita cambiarlo podrías intentar
 exportar la variable de entorno (export USER=usuario; vncviewer [bla,
 bla...]).

 Voy a revisar esto... También podría hacer un script y usar env para
 exportar la variable USER solo para ese script y no afectar a la global
 no??

 env -u sino recuerdo mal...así a bote pronto...

 Con ese comando entiendo que sólo le afectaría el cambio de variable a
 vncviewer.

 Exacto.


 Saludos,

 Saludos.


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Nada no hay forma...vncviewer de tigervnc te abre una pequeña
ventanita para usuario y contraseña...

He probado hacer un export de la variable USER y meterle el usuario
con el que me logueo. Y pasarle la contraseña mediante archivo y
nada...Tanto de texto plano como creada con vncpasswd

vncviewer -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd ip:puerto

vncviewer -passwd ruta_fichero_texto_plano_contaseña ip:puerto

Alguna que otra idea?


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(SOLUCIONADO) Re: Fallo al instalar openssl

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El 02/10/2014 15:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 09:14:50 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

  El día 1 de octubre de 2014, 18:35, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
  escribió:

 (...)

  Parece que la tienes instalada pero sin configurar. ¿Has probado a
  reinstalarla?

 (...)

  Sí claro:

 (...)

  Seguiré mirando.
 
  Bien, pues sí, sigue con los enlaces que te he pasado, ahí tienes la
  solución al problema.
 
  Gracias, lo resolví. Pongo como lo hice:
 
  In order to fix it, you can do something like put the following into
  your debconf database (often found at /var/cache/debconf/config.dat):
 
  Name: libraries/restart-without-asking Template:
  libraries/restart-without-asking Value: true Owners: libssl1.0.0 Flags:
  seen
 
  Añadi estas lineas a  /var/cache/debconf/config.dat y listo, se instalo
  correctamente...
 
  Bug de debian?

 Pues hombre, que os haya afectado a varios parece apuntar a que sí :-?

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(Solucionado) Re: Compatibilidad controladora de discos con Debian Wheezy

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El día 1 de octubre de 2014, 18:24, Maykel Franco
maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 29 de septiembre de 2014, 15:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com 
 escribió:
 El Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:25:09 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 Hola buenas, mirando las especificaciones de esta controladora, no veo
 que soporte debian:

 HP Smart Array P420 Controller

 (...)

 Para controladoras HP mira por aquí:

 http://cciss.sourceforge.net/

 Según esa página, debería estar soportada por el driver cciss/hpsa.

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 Sí lo estoy viendo... No lo encontraba.

 Me apunto esa pagina.

 Gracias.


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Re: Sonido en jessie

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:19:18 -0300, Debian GMail escribió:

 El 02/10/14 a las 13:52, Camaleón escibió:
 .

 PA es otro cantar, pero independientemente de que esté molestando con
 la configuración del sonido, el módulo del kernel tiene que cargarse,
 sí o sí :-)

 Pues no, no se carga,

¿Y no se carga ningún módulo que tengas puesto ahí o el único que no se 
carga es éste?

 Ya no sé qué mirar.

Hum... creo que no has enviado el resultado del comando que te pasé:

dmesg | grep -i intel

 Pues a mano, se carga sin problemas.

Y eso es muy raro. ¿No será que algo está impidiendo la carga del módulo? 
Por algo me refiero a que esté en la lista negra de módulos para no 
cargar que tienes en los archivos /etc/modprobe.d/*

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Re: Sonido en jessie

2014-10-03 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
yo tengo el mismo problema que el y este es el resultado de ese comando

└─[$] dmesg | grep -i intel
[0.00] Reserving Intel graphics stolen memory at 0xb800-0xbfff
[0.090183] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6570  @
2.10GHz (fam: 06, model: 17, stepping: 0a)
[0.092000] Performance Events: PEBS fmt0+, 4-deep LBR, Core2
events, Intel PMU driver.
[0.617394] intel_idle: does not run on family 6 model 23
[0.618230] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel GM45 Chipset
[0.618251] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected gtt size: 2097152K
total, 262144K mappable
[0.618831] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 131072K stolen memory
[0.618973] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000
[3.299698] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux, in-tree:
[3.299702] Copyright(c) 2003- 2014 Intel Corporation
[3.358606] iwlwifi :05:00.0: Detected Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100
AGN, REV=0x54
[3.491238] iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.11
[3.504236] fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device
[4.409554] i915 :00:02.0: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
[  296.380644] snd_hda_intel :00:1b.0: irq 50 for MSI/MSI-X
[  296.404147] input: HDA Intel Mic as
/devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input20
[  296.404279] input: HDA Intel Headphone as
/devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input21
[  296.414238] input: HDA Intel HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as
/devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input22
[ 1278.432529] snd_hda_intel :00:1b.0: irq 50 for MSI/MSI-X
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Re: [OT] Re: BBlug.org.ar Cobran dominios, qué hacemos

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 16:42:14 -0300, Roberto Quiñones escribió:

 El 02-10-2014 a las #4, Camaleón escribió:
 El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 17:44:14 +0200, Manolo Díaz escribió:

(...)

 Respeta las normas.

 ¿Sólo los OT o el formato html, responder a la lista en lugar de al
 remitente, hacer top-posting, no avisar cuando se hace cross-posting,
 secuestrar los hilos, no ajustar los caracteres a 80...?

 A todos los cuales no dudas en responder.

 A todos los cuales pareces ignorar deliberadamente. Sinceramente, ese
 doble rasero que aplicas es harto extraño.

 Si respondo es porque no me molesta, como no me molestan los OT. Para
 lo demás, para lo que molesta uso filtros que me permiten eliminar el
 ruido que viene de la lista.

 
 Tal como lo dice Felix Perez, 

Al que tengo filtrado (por alfo será)...

 siempre tu serás la ultima en dar la respuesta por que no te gusta
 perder, y en este caso admitir cuando te equivocas, 

(...)

Roberto hijo, no se trata de equivocarse, estamos hablando del envío de 
un mensaje que te tenido la delicadeza de marcar como OT. Y para no 
importarle a nadie -como tú dices- estáis todos muy interesados en seguir 
manteniendo el hilo. Vosotros sabréis porqué.

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Re: shockwave flash has crashed

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 03 Oct 2014 08:32:20 +0200, Javier Silva escribió:

 El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 15:10, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Wed, 01 Oct 2014 19:56:42 +0200, Javier Silva escribió:

 No acabo de comprender porque no hacen el pepper flash a partir de la
 versión ESR de flash player que necesita una versión de glibc inferior
 y además recibe las actualizaciones de seguridad correspondientes.

 Pues seguramente para no perder alguna funcionalidad.


 Pues si con el 13 se pierden funcionalidades, con el que tenemos en
 Linux con la NPAPI, que es la versión 11, ni te cuento ;-)

Me refería al uso de una versión inferior de glibc, que no querrán 
hacerlo porque se dejarán alguna cosica por el camino. A Firefox le pasa 
igual, dejó de dar soporte a versiones antiguas de glibc y las nuevas 
versiones ya te piden una versión determinada para poder funcionar con 
normalidad.

 Puedes instalar la versión de pepper flash que apareció con la versión
 35 de Chrome (pepflash 14.x), siendo consciente de que no vas a
 recibir actualizaciones de seguridad.

 De todas formas estos 2 navegadores quedan inservibles para aquellos
 que necesitan de forma habitual Java  y/o flash en Linux.

 Bueno, es un bug, lo resuelven y listo, tampoco hay que ponerse en plan
 dramático. Cosa distinta sería que dejaran de dar soporte
 intencionadamente.


 Lo cierto es que Java no esté implementado en PPAPI para Linux,
 representa un problema para aquellas personas que lo necesitan, no lo
 puedo considerar un bug.

Me refería al casque de FlashPlayer, que lo arreglarán. 

Lo de java (que por cierto hace ya meses que lo desactivó Firefox y no he 
necesitado activarlo) no sé de qué va, ¿también tira de ppapi y tiene 
algún problema actualmente? Esto no debería presentar batalla porque el 
plugin de Java (openjdk) es libre.

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 03 Oct 2014 14:47:07 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 El día 3 de octubre de 2014, 8:51, Maykel Franco
 maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 19:14, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

(...)

 Por cierto, el usuario será el mismo con el que has iniciado la
 sesión,
 si no hay ningún parámetro que te permita cambiarlo podrías intentar
 exportar la variable de entorno (export USER=usuario; vncviewer
 [bla, bla...]).

 Voy a revisar esto... También podría hacer un script y usar env para
 exportar la variable USER solo para ese script y no afectar a la
 global no??

 env -u sino recuerdo mal...así a bote pronto...

 Con ese comando entiendo que sólo le afectaría el cambio de variable a
 vncviewer.

 Exacto.

Me refería a que con el comando que te puse (export USER=usuario; 
vncviewer [bla, bla...]) la variable $USER sólo se exporta para la orden 
siguiente, no a toda la sesión.

 Nada no hay forma...vncviewer de tigervnc te abre una pequeña ventanita
 para usuario y contraseña...
 
 He probado hacer un export de la variable USER y meterle el usuario con
 el que me logueo. Y pasarle la contraseña mediante archivo y
 nada...Tanto de texto plano como creada con vncpasswd
 
 vncviewer -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd ip:puerto
 
 vncviewer -passwd ruta_fichero_texto_plano_contaseña ip:puerto
 
 Alguna que otra idea?

Pues no, salvo que preguntes en su lista:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tigervnc-users

Pensaba que el paquete estaba en los repos de Debian pero veo que no :-?

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El 03/10/2014 16:00, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Fri, 03 Oct 2014 14:47:07 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

  El día 3 de octubre de 2014, 8:51, Maykel Franco
  maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
  El día 2 de octubre de 2014, 19:14, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
  escribió:

 (...)

  Por cierto, el usuario será el mismo con el que has iniciado la
  sesión,
  si no hay ningún parámetro que te permita cambiarlo podrías intentar
  exportar la variable de entorno (export USER=usuario; vncviewer
  [bla, bla...]).
 
  Voy a revisar esto... También podría hacer un script y usar env para
  exportar la variable USER solo para ese script y no afectar a la
  global no??
 
  env -u sino recuerdo mal...así a bote pronto...
 
  Con ese comando entiendo que sólo le afectaría el cambio de variable a
  vncviewer.
 
  Exacto.

 Me refería a que con el comando que te puse (export USER=usuario;
 vncviewer [bla, bla...]) la variable $USER sólo se exporta para la orden
 siguiente, no a toda la sesión.

Ya bueno pero he probado a cañón por si acaso.

  Nada no hay forma...vncviewer de tigervnc te abre una pequeña ventanita
  para usuario y contraseña...
 
  He probado hacer un export de la variable USER y meterle el usuario con
  el que me logueo. Y pasarle la contraseña mediante archivo y
  nada...Tanto de texto plano como creada con vncpasswd
 
  vncviewer -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd ip:puerto
 
  vncviewer -passwd ruta_fichero_texto_plano_contaseña ip:puerto
 
  Alguna que otra idea?

 Pues no, salvo que preguntes en su lista:

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tigervnc-users

Vale gracias voy a preguntar.


 Pensaba que el paquete estaba en los repos de Debian pero veo que no :-?

No, lo descargue de sourceforge. Otras distros como mi preferida Arch para
desktop si lo tiene en los repos.

Saludos.


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Re: Sonido en jessie

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 03 Oct 2014 09:13:17 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 yo tengo el mismo problema que el y este es el resultado de ese comando
 
 └─[$] dmesg | grep -i intel

(...)

 [  296.380644] snd_hda_intel :00:1b.0: irq 50 for MSI/MSI-X
 [  296.404147] input: HDA Intel Mic as 
 /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input20
 [  296.404279] input: HDA Intel Headphone as 
 /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input21
 [  296.414238] input: HDA Intel HDMI/DP,pcm=3 as 
 /devices/pci:00/:00:1b.0/sound/card0/input22
 [ 1278.432529] snd_hda_intel :00:1b.0: irq 50 for MSI/MSI-X
 ^

Ahí te aparece el módulo cargado.

Si tienes el mismo problema que el OP (no se le carga el múdlo al iniciar 
el sistema), asegúrate de añadir esta línea snd-hda-intel al archivo 
/etc/modules, reiniciar el sistema y nada más reiniciar ejecutar
dmesg | grep -i intel o lsmod | grep -i intel para comprobar si lo ha 
cargado bien.

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Re: acceder a traves de un proxy con raspbian

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 16:29:55 -0300, javier frf escribió:

8ese html...)

 hola, resulta que tengo una raspberry pi conectada a la red de la
 universidad, y deseo acceder a internet, la ip del servidor proxy es
 10.144.0.1
 
 modifique manualmente la ip del equipo, el gateway y el mascara de
 subred.
 
 alguien me podria decir como configurarlo.
 pd: estoy trabajando sin entorno de escritorio

Podrás exportar la variable de entorno añadiéndola al archivo ~/.bashrc:

export http_proxy=http://user:password@address:port/

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread fernando sainz
El día 5 de septiembre de 2014, 10:20, Maykel Franco
maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola buenas, uso tiger vncviewer para conectarme a las máquinas virtuales.
 El caso es que necesito soporte TLS, por eso he usado tigervnc y no el
 clásico vncviewer que no tiene soporte TLS, aunque el comando que uso para
 conectarme es vncviewer proporcionado por tigervnc...

 La idea es que cuando me voy a conectar uso:

 vncviewer ip:puerto

 Y ya me sale una ventanit apara que introduzca el usuario y contraseña...Eso
 una vez vale, pero si necesito conectar muchas veces al día es un peñazo
 tener que meterla cada 2 x 3...

 Estoy mirando haber como le puedo pasar el parámetro de usuario y contraseña
 en el propio comando antes de conectar, pero no encuentro nada. De lo que
 encuentro es para vncviewer sin soporte TLS , cliente básico que se instala
 cuando instalas algún paquete de vnc client o server, no tigervnc.

 Saludos.

Podrías mirar los paquetes ssvnc y gvncviewer que si están en Debian.


S2.

PD.

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El 03/10/2014 16:43, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com
escribió:

 El día 5 de septiembre de 2014, 10:20, Maykel Franco
 maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
  Hola buenas, uso tiger vncviewer para conectarme a las máquinas
virtuales.
  El caso es que necesito soporte TLS, por eso he usado tigervnc y no el
  clásico vncviewer que no tiene soporte TLS, aunque el comando que uso
para
  conectarme es vncviewer proporcionado por tigervnc...
 
  La idea es que cuando me voy a conectar uso:
 
  vncviewer ip:puerto
 
  Y ya me sale una ventanit apara que introduzca el usuario y
contraseña...Eso
  una vez vale, pero si necesito conectar muchas veces al día es un peñazo
  tener que meterla cada 2 x 3...
 
  Estoy mirando haber como le puedo pasar el parámetro de usuario y
contraseña
  en el propio comando antes de conectar, pero no encuentro nada. De lo
que
  encuentro es para vncviewer sin soporte TLS , cliente básico que se
instala
  cuando instalas algún paquete de vnc client o server, no tigervnc.
 
  Saludos.

 Podrías mirar los paquetes ssvnc y gvncviewer que si están en Debian.


 S2.

 PD.

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 Meteríais un poco menos de RUIDO en la lista.


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Si te molesta ignora.

Recuerda OT.


Re: Gráfico tipo X-Y con dos ejex X en LibreOffice Calc

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:31:40 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 El 02/10/14 a las 14:57, Camaleón escibió:

(...)

 Lamentablemente parece que no se puede hacer de una forma prolija.
 Es raro, pensé que se podía usar una columna como etiquetas para los
 valores de un determinado eje... Una pena.
 Entonces ¿esto no funciona?

 Secondary axis https://help.libreoffice.org/Chart/Axes#X_axis_2

 Nop. Eso te permite agregar un segundo eje X y definir una escala
 distinta para el mismo. Es muy útil pero no en mi caso, ya que lo que yo
 necesitaría es otro eje X con otro juego de valores directamente.
 Matemáticamente es un disparate, pero en este caso me serviría.

Vale, ya entiendo. Quieres un eje X secundario con los datos disociados, 
es decir, que no estén relacionados.

 Pero no se hagan más problemas, directamente haré dos gráficos y listo,
 uno será de frecuencia de canal vs. potencia y el será número de canal
 vs. potencia (x / y respectivamente).

Eso te iba a decir, añade una línea/gráfico independiente, nueva y con 
los datos sin vincular a los del otro gráfico y listo.

 Lo que estaría bueno sería que LO te deje definir una columna como
 etiquetas pero para el eje X, puesto que te deja definir una columna
 como etiquetas pero te pone las etiquetas sobre el gráfico generado y no
 sobre algún eje que vos puedas elegir.

Otra opción sería algo como esto:

http://picpaste.com/graph-VOAZN2X7.png

En el eje X los datos del canal y en su eje Y correspondiente los dos 
valores de frecuencia y potencia, así se ve todo de un plumazo.

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread fernando sainz
El día 3 de octubre de 2014, 16:44, Maykel Franco
maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:

 El 03/10/2014 16:43, fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com
 escribió:



 El día 5 de septiembre de 2014, 10:20, Maykel Franco
 maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:
  Hola buenas, uso tiger vncviewer para conectarme a las máquinas
  virtuales.
  El caso es que necesito soporte TLS, por eso he usado tigervnc y no el
  clásico vncviewer que no tiene soporte TLS, aunque el comando que uso
  para
  conectarme es vncviewer proporcionado por tigervnc...
 
  La idea es que cuando me voy a conectar uso:
 
  vncviewer ip:puerto
 
  Y ya me sale una ventanit apara que introduzca el usuario y
  contraseña...Eso
  una vez vale, pero si necesito conectar muchas veces al día es un peñazo
  tener que meterla cada 2 x 3...
 
  Estoy mirando haber como le puedo pasar el parámetro de usuario y
  contraseña
  en el propio comando antes de conectar, pero no encuentro nada. De lo
  que
  encuentro es para vncviewer sin soporte TLS , cliente básico que se
  instala
  cuando instalas algún paquete de vnc client o server, no tigervnc.
 
  Saludos.

 Podrías mirar los paquetes ssvnc y gvncviewer que si están en Debian.


 S2.

 PD.

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 Si te molesta ignora.

 Recuerda OT.


Recuerda tu: Poner OT no implica que tu comportamiento no esté fuera
de las normas de la lista.
Solo suaviza las reprimendas que puedan producirse.

No estoy criticando tu OT sino el abuso de tráfico que generáis, que
causa molestias al resto de los listeros.

S2.

###

El resto de temas se deben considerar Off-Topic y, por tanto, deben
tratar de evitarse.
Para cuestiones fuera del uso de Debian, existen otras listas como
debian-curiosa, debian-news, debian-news-spanish, el grupo de news
linux.debian.spanish, los canales oficiales en freenode, los canales
en irc-hispano y, por supuesto, muchos portales, foros, blogs y webs
en general dedicados a comunidades de usuarios de Debian.

Si aún así desea mandar un correo electrónico a la lista que esté
fuera de lugar, deberá indicarlo en el asunto del correo, para, entre
otras cosas, que la gente que opte por no leerlo pueda filtrarlo de
antemano, poniendo [OT] u [OffTopic] al comienzo del asunto.
Recuerde que indicar que un correo es off topic no exime de las
reprimendas por parte de la comunidad. Son off topic aceptados
habitualmente preguntas de programación de scripts o guiones de
consola, informes de posibles fallos (que deberían hacerse con
reportbug), o encuestas sobre qué programa resuelve mejor, según cada
cual, un determinado problema. Ejemplos:
* [OT] ¿Cómo hago desde script de bash que un programa quede en background?
* [OT] XOrg7 no provee DRI con ATI9600, ¿a alguien más le pasa?
* [OT] ¿Un buen programa para hacer diagramas UML? ¿Cuál prefieren?


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Re: Gráfico tipo X-Y con dos ejex X en LibreOffice Calc

2014-10-03 Thread Mauro Antivero

El 03/10/14 a las 11:46, Camaleón escibió:

El Thu, 02 Oct 2014 15:31:40 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:


El 02/10/14 a las 14:57, Camaleón escibió:

(...)


Lamentablemente parece que no se puede hacer de una forma prolija.
Es raro, pensé que se podía usar una columna como etiquetas para los
valores de un determinado eje... Una pena.

Entonces ¿esto no funciona?

Secondary axis https://help.libreoffice.org/Chart/Axes#X_axis_2

Nop. Eso te permite agregar un segundo eje X y definir una escala
distinta para el mismo. Es muy útil pero no en mi caso, ya que lo que yo
necesitaría es otro eje X con otro juego de valores directamente.
Matemáticamente es un disparate, pero en este caso me serviría.

Vale, ya entiendo. Quieres un eje X secundario con los datos disociados,
es decir, que no estén relacionados.


Pero no se hagan más problemas, directamente haré dos gráficos y listo,
uno será de frecuencia de canal vs. potencia y el será número de canal
vs. potencia (x / y respectivamente).

Eso te iba a decir, añade una línea/gráfico independiente, nueva y con
los datos sin vincular a los del otro gráfico y listo.
Tengo que ver si puedo lograr esto, porque a cada valor del eje X 
original le correspondería un determinado valor del eje X secundario. La 
verdad que cada vez me doy más cuenta que es un lío hacerlo con ejes, lo 
ideal sería que a cada valor en el eje X se le pueda poner una etiqueta, 
y que muestra dicha etiqueta debajo del valor correspondiente.



Lo que estaría bueno sería que LO te deje definir una columna como
etiquetas pero para el eje X, puesto que te deja definir una columna
como etiquetas pero te pone las etiquetas sobre el gráfico generado y no
sobre algún eje que vos puedas elegir.

Otra opción sería algo como esto:

http://picpaste.com/graph-VOAZN2X7.png

En el eje X los datos del canal y en su eje Y correspondiente los dos
valores de frecuencia y potencia, así se ve todo de un plumazo.
Mmm... Es muy buena la alternativa que me pasás. Voy a ver que hago, ya 
que la ventaja de graficar la línea era justamente poder apreciar bien 
la línea, la cual debería ser lo más plana posible. A lo mejor hago los 
dos tipos de gráfico y queda más completo.


Saludos y gracias!

Mauro.


Saludos,




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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread agronomo

On 10/03/2014 07:44 AM, Maykel Franco wrote: Si te molesta ignora.

 Recuerda OT.


A no ser que seas Camaleon disfrazado, no deberias de esperar el mismo 
trato que a ella! Es curioso que cuando le indican algo a Camaleon; 
quien suponemos es mujer y por eso; supongo; se le toleran muchas cosas; 
apareces vos con una ensarta de tonterias. Que pretendes Maykel?



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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:03:20 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 El 03/10/2014 16:00, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

  He probado hacer un export de la variable USER y meterle el usuario
  con el que me logueo. Y pasarle la contraseña mediante archivo y
  nada...Tanto de texto plano como creada con vncpasswd
 
  vncviewer -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd ip:puerto
 
  vncviewer -passwd ruta_fichero_texto_plano_contaseña ip:puerto
 
  Alguna que otra idea?

 Pues no, salvo que preguntes en su lista:

 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/tigervnc-users
 
 Vale gracias voy a preguntar.
 
 
 Pensaba que el paquete estaba en los repos de Debian pero veo que no
 :-?
 
 No, lo descargue de sourceforge. Otras distros como mi preferida Arch
 para desktop si lo tiene en los repos.

Oye, una cosa por si se nos ha pasado por alto... el archivo de la 
contraseña que le pasas como -passwd ~/.vnc/passwd supongo que apunta 
al archivo que has generado en el servidor pero por si no estuviera 
tomando bien la variable de entorno prueba a pasarle la ruta completa, es 
decir -passwd /home/maykel/.vnc/passwd.

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Re: Sonido en jessie

2014-10-03 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
despues de agregar el mudulo en /etc/modules
y ejecutado el comando despues q se reinicio este es el resultado


[0.00] Reserving Intel graphics stolen memory at 0xb800-0xbfff
[0.086706] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6570  @
2.10GHz (fam: 06, model: 17, stepping: 0a)
[0.088000] Performance Events: PEBS fmt0+, 4-deep LBR, Core2
events, Intel PMU driver.
[0.620558] intel_idle: does not run on family 6 model 23
[0.621389] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel GM45 Chipset
[0.621411] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected gtt size: 2097152K
total, 262144K mappable
[0.621984] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 131072K stolen memory
[0.622124] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000
[3.284762] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux, in-tree:
[3.284778] Copyright(c) 2003- 2014 Intel Corporation
[3.318485] iwlwifi :05:00.0: Detected Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100
AGN, REV=0x54
[3.483131] fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device
[3.488773] iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.11
[4.409567] i915 :00:02.0: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
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Re: Gráfico tipo X-Y con dos ejex X en LibreOffice Calc

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 03 Oct 2014 12:26:24 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 El 03/10/14 a las 11:46, Camaleón escibió:

(...)

 Pero no se hagan más problemas, directamente haré dos gráficos y
 listo,
 uno será de frecuencia de canal vs. potencia y el será número de canal
 vs. potencia (x / y respectivamente).
 Eso te iba a decir, añade una línea/gráfico independiente, nueva y con
 los datos sin vincular a los del otro gráfico y listo.
 Tengo que ver si puedo lograr esto, porque a cada valor del eje X
 original le correspondería un determinado valor del eje X secundario. La
 verdad que cada vez me doy más cuenta que es un lío hacerlo con ejes, lo
 ideal sería que a cada valor en el eje X se le pueda poner una etiqueta,
 y que muestra dicha etiqueta debajo del valor correspondiente.

(...)

Lo que sí puedes hacer es añadir categorías en el eje X:

http://picpaste.com/pics/char2-jB9qt3L0.1412353117.png

Pero claro, sólo texto, nada de valores.

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Re: Sonido en jessie

2014-10-03 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 03 Oct 2014 11:47:21 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 despues de agregar el mudulo en /etc/modules y ejecutado el comando
 despues q se reinicio este es el resultado

Caray :-o

Probando...

Ajá... el módulo se llama snd_hda_intel (con guiones bajos), mira a ver 
si así ya te carga bien.

Para ver lo que sucede hay que tirar del journal de systemd (como root):

journalctl -b | grep -i inserted

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread Maykel Franco
El 03/10/2014 17:35, agronomo agron...@agronomos.ca escribió:

 On 10/03/2014 07:44 AM, Maykel Franco wrote: Si te molesta ignora.
 
  Recuerda OT.
 

 A no ser que seas Camaleon disfrazado, no deberias de esperar el mismo
trato que a ella! Es curioso que cuando le indican algo a Camaleon; quien
suponemos es mujer y por eso; supongo; se le toleran muchas cosas; apareces
vos con una ensarta de tonterias. Que pretendes Maykel?



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Tranquil@ que es ot de off-topic no de operación triunfo.


Re: Sonido en jessie

2014-10-03 Thread martin ayos
2014-10-03 13:17 GMT-03:00 Edward Villarroel (EDD)
edward.villarr...@gmail.com:
 despues de agregar el mudulo en /etc/modules
 y ejecutado el comando despues q se reinicio este es el resultado


 [0.00] Reserving Intel graphics stolen memory at 0xb800-0xbfff
 [0.086706] smpboot: CPU0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6570  @
 2.10GHz (fam: 06, model: 17, stepping: 0a)
 [0.088000] Performance Events: PEBS fmt0+, 4-deep LBR, Core2
 events, Intel PMU driver.
 [0.620558] intel_idle: does not run on family 6 model 23
 [0.621389] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel GM45 Chipset
 [0.621411] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected gtt size: 2097152K
 total, 262144K mappable
 [0.621984] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 131072K stolen memory
 [0.622124] agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd000
 [3.284762] Intel(R) Wireless WiFi driver for Linux, in-tree:
 [3.284778] Copyright(c) 2003- 2014 Intel Corporation
 [3.318485] iwlwifi :05:00.0: Detected Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100
 AGN, REV=0x54
 [3.483131] fbcon: inteldrmfb (fb0) is primary device
 [3.488773] iTCO_wdt: Intel TCO WatchDog Timer Driver v1.11
 [4.409567] i915 :00:02.0: fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
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A mí me pasó algo similar. El tema es que, si bien reconocía la placa
Intel, seleccionaba por defecto hda0 como placa y no la placa Intel.
No hubo caso, intenté mil cosas y no pude solucionarlo, ni editando el
archivo en donde Intel estaba en 0 y cambiándolo a 1, ni nada de nada.
Reinstalé Pulse Audio y no anduvo. Reincié Alsa, hice mil cosas.
Finalmente, como tenía que usarla ya y como siempre tengo /home
aparte, hice lo que no suelo hacer: reinstalar. Y ahora anda. Estaría
bueno saber por qué sucede.

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Re: Problemas en Debian Wheezy con conky

2014-10-03 Thread Rivera Valdez
Gracias, Camaleón, voy a revisar esos links (es posible que esté con el
mismo problema),

¡saludos!

2014-10-01 11:01 GMT-03:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

 El Wed, 01 Oct 2014 09:00:00 -0430, Frederit Mogollon escribió:

 (...)

  Estoy medio loco (casi no desperado... :=) dado que quiero saber y
  resolver los aparentes problemas que presenta la roca de Debian Wheezy
  que uso, dado que tengo Conky-all versión 1.9.0-2 instalado, hermoso,
  corriendo pero tiempo variable después se cierra.

 (...)

 Echa un vistazo a estos hilos de los foros:

 Conky aborting after some time
 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6t=107933

 Conky dies [SOLVED]
 http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=23166

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Re: Error postfix/ldap - Temporary lookup failure

2014-10-03 Thread Marcos Germán Capelari
Hola,

Al final se clavo el ordenador y empezó a dar errores por todos lados. Así
que opte por la solución mas fácil pero no mas rápida y se migro a una VM.
Muchas gracias a todos por las respuestas, ya esta todo operativo y
funcionando.

El 30 de septiembre de 2014, 11:51, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:14:42 -0300, Marcos Germán Capelari escribió:

  Si, incluso he reiniciado el server. Tengo un server de backup por el
  momento funciona, pero también es bastante viejo. Estoy pensando pasarlo
  a una VM y con eso darle un fin a eso ya que no tengo pensado usar mas
  ldap. Muchas gracias por la ayuda.

 ¿Y un telnet localhost 389 en el servidor ldap responde?

 También podrías aumentar la verbosidad del registro de Postfix por si te
 diera alguna pista.

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Pasar parametro usuario y contraseña a tiger vncviewer en consola

2014-10-03 Thread agronomo
On 10/03/2014 08:58 AM, Cristian Mitchell wrote:
 El 3 de octubre de 2014, 12:33, agronomo agron...@agronomos.ca 
 escribió:
 
 On 10/03/2014 07:44 AM, Maykel Franco wrote: Si te molesta 
 ignora.
 
 Recuerda OT.
 
 
 A no ser que seas Camaleon disfrazado, no deberias de esperar el
  mismo trato que a ella! Es curioso que cuando le indican algo a
  Camaleon; quien suponemos es mujer y por eso; supongo; se le 
 toleran muchas cosas; apareces vos con una ensarta de tonterias.
  Que pretendes Maykel?
 

 
 Según entiendo, el problema de un programa corriendo en debian 
 tomado de uno se sus repositorios y siguiendo su documentacion, no
  hace lo que debe, no off topic

La cosa es que Maykel no usa Debian, ya lo ha dicho varias veces. Solo
finge usarlo! Revisa los archivos.

 y segundo es irrelevante de quien sea Camaleon, si a ti te importa
  es tu problema, si fuese de otra forma no funcionaria el concepto
  de igualdad, mas allá que se le reconozca su nivel de aporte

Pues si, tenes razon con lo de la igualdad; Pero, y entonces por que
otro motivo se le ha permitido tanto abuso de las normas de la lista?

Despues de leer las quejas, y revisar los archivos; te das cuenta de
que los que se quejan, tienen razon! Por eso pense que es por ser mujer.

PD:
Por favor responde a la lista, yo estoy inscrito.





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Re: BackupPC - Alguien lo usa? Cómo?

2014-10-03 Thread Erick Ocrospoma
2014-10-03 6:14 GMT-05:00 Mauro Antivero mauro.antiv...@gmail.com:

  El 02/10/14 a las 16:50, Erick Ocrospoma escibió:



 2014-10-02 13:40 GMT-05:00 Mauro Antivero mauro.antiv...@gmail.com:

 Estimados, estoy viendo de configurar un servidor (por ahora a modo de
 pruebas en una VM) de backups con BackupPC. Leyendo veo que uno de los
 métodos más usados para acceder a los distintos clientes es por un juego de
 llaves SSH, pero el problema es que el servidor necesita poder acceder como
 root a todos los clientes!


  No sé si te entiendo bien, TU servidor (cliente) necesita acceso como
 root o es que eso es lo que estás entiendo que necesita BackupPC. Si es lo
 último, pues te digo que si es posible hacerlo como un usuario cualquiera,
 es más, la propia documentación te obliga practicamente a crear un usuario
 backuppc para poder obtener los backups.

 Nono, el servidor que corre BackupPC necesita acceso como root a todos los
 clientes de los cuales se quiera hacer backups. Me podrías indicar la parte
 de la documentación donde te indica como hacerlo con un usuario cualquiera?
 Hasta donde yo leí si usás un usuario normal no podés tener acceso a todo
 el sistema de archivos, para eso necesitás permisos de root, lo cual lo
 podés asegurar un poco con sudo y alguna que otra cosita. Esto está
 explicado en esta página:

 http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/ssh.html

 Saludos, Mauro.


http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/ssh.html#how_can_client_access_as_root_be_avoided


sudo make me a sandwich :)





 Como a mi no me gusta esta política de habilitar el acceso root por SSH
 (siempre accedo con un determinado usuario y luego escalo a root) me
 gustaría saber si alguien usa BackupPC cómo es que lo usa y que me sugiere.

 En siguiente página:

 http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/faq/ssh.html

 Dan unos cuantos tips sobre como mejorar la seguridad cuando se permite
 el acceso por SSH, pero por ahora no termina de cerrarme. Se que se pueden
 usar otros métodos de backup como rsync o rdiff-backup, de hecho ambos
 están implementados en distintos servidores, pero me gustaría empezar a
 utilizar BackupPC.

 Cualquier sugerencia es bienvenida.

 Saludos y gracias!

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não consigo montar sdc

2014-10-03 Thread Ayesha
Olá pessoal,

Estou usando debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 e instalei um novo HD. O comando fdisk -l o 
encontra sem problemas. Fiz uma cópia do meu HD princiapl para ele através do 
comando dd, e quando vou montá-lo recebo a seguinte mensagem de erro:

mount: special device /dev/sdc* does nor exist

o * significa as partições existentes no meu HD principal, tipo 1, 2, 3 ... 12 
etc que foram copiadas ao HD sdc com o comando dd

Alguma sugestão do que possa estar errando?

Valew!  

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Re: não consigo montar sdc

2014-10-03 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Geometria dos HDs não seria compatível ?!?

Tente usar o partclone, ele tenta corrigir problemas deste tipo .

Ou então o Clonezilla, mais completo ( clonezilla.org )


Fábio Rabelo

Em 3 de outubro de 2014 16:41, Ayesha aye...@security.com.br escreveu:
 Olá pessoal,

 Estou usando debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 e instalei um novo HD. O comando fdisk -l
 o encontra sem problemas. Fiz uma cópia do meu HD princiapl para ele através
 do comando dd, e quando vou montá-lo recebo a seguinte mensagem de erro:

 mount: special device /dev/sdc* does nor exist

 o * significa as partições existentes no meu HD principal, tipo 1, 2, 3 ...
 12 etc que foram copiadas ao HD sdc com o comando dd

 Alguma sugestão do que possa estar errando?

 Valew!

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Re: não consigo montar sdc

2014-10-03 Thread Ayesha
Olá Fábio,

Então, no micro tenho 3 HDs idênticos, e resolvi usar o terceiro para clonar o 
primeiro, onde se encontra o meu sistema, e usei o dd :( - Não tenho ambiente 
gráfico, só comando 

de linha. Vou ver se os programas que indicou tem essa possibilidade, mas acho 
que tenho outro problema e queria entender/resolvê-lo.


Friday, October 3, 2014, 5:34:55 PM, you wrote:

 Geometria dos HDs não seria compatível ?!?

 Tente usar o partclone, ele tenta corrigir problemas deste tipo .

 Ou então o Clonezilla, mais completo ( clonezilla.org )


 Fábio Rabelo

 Em 3 de outubro de 2014 16:41, Ayesha aye...@security.com.br escreveu:
 Olá pessoal,

 Estou usando debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 e instalei um novo HD. O comando fdisk -l
 o encontra sem problemas. Fiz uma cópia do meu HD princiapl para ele através
 do comando dd, e quando vou montá-lo recebo a seguinte mensagem de erro:

 mount: special device /dev/sdc* does nor exist

 o * significa as partições existentes no meu HD principal, tipo 1, 2, 3 ...
 12 etc que foram copiadas ao HD sdc com o comando dd

 Alguma sugestão do que possa estar errando?

 Valew!

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Re: não consigo montar sdc

2014-10-03 Thread Fábio Rabelo
O partclone funciona em linha de comando, mas ele não é lá muito
inteligente , vc precisa conhecer a geometria dos HDs para passar os
parâmetros corretos, e pelo que o Sr. disse, acho que não será uma
coisa banal ...


Fábio Rabelo

Em 3 de outubro de 2014 17:38, Ayesha aye...@security.com.br escreveu:
 Olá Fábio,

 Então, no micro tenho 3 HDs idênticos, e resolvi usar o terceiro para clonar
 o primeiro, onde se encontra o meu sistema, e usei o dd :( - Não tenho
 ambiente gráfico, só comando

 de linha. Vou ver se os programas que indicou tem essa possibilidade, mas
 acho que tenho outro problema e queria entender/resolvê-lo.



 Friday, October 3, 2014, 5:34:55 PM, you wrote:

 Geometria dos HDs não seria compatível ?!?

 Tente usar o partclone, ele tenta corrigir problemas deste tipo .

 Ou então o Clonezilla, mais completo ( clonezilla.org )


 Fábio Rabelo

 Em 3 de outubro de 2014 16:41, Ayesha 
 aye...@security.com.br escreveu:

 Olá pessoal,

 Estou usando debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 e instalei um novo HD. O comando fdisk
 -l
 o encontra sem problemas. Fiz uma cópia do meu HD princiapl para ele
 através
 do comando dd, e quando vou montá-lo recebo a seguinte mensagem de
 erro:

 mount: special device /dev/sdc* does nor exist

 o * significa as partições existentes no meu HD principal, tipo 1, 2, 3
 ...
 12 etc que foram copiadas ao HD sdc com o comando dd

 Alguma sugestão do que possa estar errando?

 Valew!

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 mailto:aye...@security.com.br





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Re: não consigo montar sdc

2014-10-03 Thread SDeMario
Mas se der boot com o CD do Clonezila, ou o SystemRescueCD, terá o 
ambiente gráfico, pois não estará rodando a sua distribuição.


Vinicius

On 03-10-2014 17:43, Fábio Rabelo wrote:

O partclone funciona em linha de comando, mas ele não é lá muito
inteligente , vc precisa conhecer a geometria dos HDs para passar os
parâmetros corretos, e pelo que o Sr. disse, acho que não será uma
coisa banal ...


Fábio Rabelo

Em 3 de outubro de 2014 17:38, Ayesha aye...@security.com.br escreveu:

Olá Fábio,

Então, no micro tenho 3 HDs idênticos, e resolvi usar o terceiro para clonar
o primeiro, onde se encontra o meu sistema, e usei o dd :( - Não tenho
ambiente gráfico, só comando

de linha. Vou ver se os programas que indicou tem essa possibilidade, mas
acho que tenho outro problema e queria entender/resolvê-lo.



Friday, October 3, 2014, 5:34:55 PM, you wrote:


Geometria dos HDs não seria compatível ?!?
Tente usar o partclone, ele tenta corrigir problemas deste tipo .
Ou então o Clonezilla, mais completo ( clonezilla.org )



Fábio Rabelo
Em 3 de outubro de 2014 16:41, Ayesha 

aye...@security.com.br escreveu:


Olá pessoal,
Estou usando debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 e instalei um novo HD. O comando fdisk
-l
o encontra sem problemas. Fiz uma cópia do meu HD princiapl para ele
através
do comando dd, e quando vou montá-lo recebo a seguinte mensagem de
erro:
mount: special device /dev/sdc* does nor exist
o * significa as partições existentes no meu HD principal, tipo 1, 2, 3
...
12 etc que foram copiadas ao HD sdc com o comando dd
Alguma sugestão do que possa estar errando?
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Re: não consigo montar sdc

2014-10-03 Thread Fábio Rabelo
O Clonezilla não usa nenhum ambiente gráfico .

O SystemRescueCD usa, mas qdo o Sr. selecionar a função de cline ele
abrirá uma janela de terminal .


Fábio Rabelo

Em 3 de outubro de 2014 18:07, SDeMario sdmi@uol.com.br escreveu:
 Mas se der boot com o CD do Clonezila, ou o SystemRescueCD, terá o ambiente
 gráfico, pois não estará rodando a sua distribuição.

 Vinicius


 On 03-10-2014 17:43, Fábio Rabelo wrote:

 O partclone funciona em linha de comando, mas ele não é lá muito
 inteligente , vc precisa conhecer a geometria dos HDs para passar os
 parâmetros corretos, e pelo que o Sr. disse, acho que não será uma
 coisa banal ...


 Fábio Rabelo

 Em 3 de outubro de 2014 17:38, Ayesha aye...@security.com.br escreveu:

 Olá Fábio,

 Então, no micro tenho 3 HDs idênticos, e resolvi usar o terceiro para
 clonar
 o primeiro, onde se encontra o meu sistema, e usei o dd :( - Não tenho
 ambiente gráfico, só comando

 de linha. Vou ver se os programas que indicou tem essa possibilidade, mas
 acho que tenho outro problema e queria entender/resolvê-lo.



 Friday, October 3, 2014, 5:34:55 PM, you wrote:

 Geometria dos HDs não seria compatível ?!?
 Tente usar o partclone, ele tenta corrigir problemas deste tipo .
 Ou então o Clonezilla, mais completo ( clonezilla.org )


 Fábio Rabelo
 Em 3 de outubro de 2014 16:41, Ayesha 

 aye...@security.com.br escreveu:

 Olá pessoal,
 Estou usando debian 2.6.32-5-amd64 e instalei um novo HD. O comando
 fdisk
 -l
 o encontra sem problemas. Fiz uma cópia do meu HD princiapl para ele
 através
 do comando dd, e quando vou montá-lo recebo a seguinte mensagem de
 erro:
 mount: special device /dev/sdc* does nor exist
 o * significa as partições existentes no meu HD principal, tipo 1, 2, 3
 ...
 12 etc que foram copiadas ao HD sdc com o comando dd
 Alguma sugestão do que possa estar errando?
 Valew!
 --
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Re: apt update problems

2014-10-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 02 oct 14, 19:59:15, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
 
 On 10/02/2014 07:19 PM, Brian wrote:
 On Fri 03 Oct 2014 at 00:15:32 +0100, Brian wrote:
 
 You have a very poorly /etc/apt/sources/list. Please post its contents.
   /etc/apt/sources.list
 
 
 I did not see an update file int the
 
 ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/dists/wheezy/.
 
 When I look at sources.list I get the configuration thing from synaptic which 
 includes the CD's from 7.6 and contains http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ 
 wheezy contrib non-free main
 
 The following is from sources.list.save

Could you please *attach* (not copy-paste or similar) your 
/etc/apt/sources.list file and any other file you might have under 
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?

It's important you attach them since your mailer seems to be a little 
bit too helpful in formating your mails and it's important to for us to 
see the same files as apt sees them.

Kind regards,
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Re: Enabling a second graphic card

2014-10-03 Thread berenger . morel



Le 01.10.2014 16:39, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit :

Hello.

I have recently acquired 2 (identical, 4/3 shaped) screens, so I
combined them with my current favorite screen on a computer which 
have

2 graphic cards, but it seems that Debian did not enabled the second
card.

I have tried it on a temporary Ubuntu install, and it works fine out
of the box, so Debian must be able to use that 2nd card too. I tried
to install a more recent kernel from backports on Debian just in 
case,

but still no luck. Now that I'm thinking about it, I did not checked
what Ubuntu uses as driver, so if it uses NVidia, this could be the
reason, since I'm using nouveau on Debian. But I think that Ubuntu
does not install proprietary blobs by default?
I tried to find a xorg.conf in /etc on both system, no one had it.

There is no Internet access from that computer, so packages are
installed from the Ubuntu DVD I bought 2-3 months ago (14.04 IIRC) 
and

from a Debian DVD set I have downloaded at work (7.5, DVDs 1 to 9
IIRC).

Does anyone knows if nouveau is supports a configuration with 2
graphic cards, or do I have to install NVidia's drivers to do the 
job?

Does someone have some links to documents which could explain how to
enable that 2nd card?

Note that I think the second card is disabled, because after doing
quick searches in /sys, I discovered that what I suppose to be the
second card directory have a file named enabled which contains 0.
But I'm not expert at all when it comes to kernel stuff.


Ok, I have installed nvidia, and let it write the xorg.conf file. Now, 
I hope I will be more able to tinker those files than when I went to 
Debian from Windows...


Anyway, it seems that NVidia starts a second Xorg server for the second 
card (I enabled it through the graphic tool). That second server is not 
seen by the first one, so xrandr is not able to describe what I have 
plugged into it, thus i3 can't manage the extra screen.
But at least, I have some progress, if I only need to learn xorg 
configuration's arcane, I should be able to achieve this step of my 
goal.



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Squid security 2014:3 and 2014:4

2014-10-03 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


http://www.squid-cache.org/Advisories/SQUID-2014_3.txt
http://www.squid-cache.org/Advisories/SQUID-2014_4.txt

SNMP is default off. But how about the pinger?


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Re: Debian policy on alternate init systems

2014-10-03 Thread berenger . morel



Le 02.10.2014 14:11, Marty a écrit :

d-mobilize (inspiring)
[...]
Let me know which name you prefer. We have until the Jessie freeze to
decide. Welcome to your compatible, interoperable systemd future.


I like this one, because it makes me smile. I like pieces of softwares 
with play on words (this translation sounds strange... is it the 
correct one?)


Oh, and apart from that, for people (if there are some here) which 
thinks that systemd's attempt to simplify daemon scripts is interesting, 
but that systemd is going too far in the bloatland, in short for people 
which are not haters nor lovers of systemd, there is an interesting fork 
of systemd: uselessd (http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/).


I do not know if someone already pointed about it, I have not read all 
dumb threads with trolls and wars.



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Business proposition

2014-10-03 Thread Edward Brooks
Hello,
My name is Edward and I'm sending you this message because I think 
your site http://www.es.debian.org would be perfect for my some of my 
clients.
I'll explain, I'm an advertising representative and I'd like to 
discuss with you about the possibility of you offering us advertising space 
(for my clients) on your site. 
We are interested in sponsored (paid) posts and banners.

Thanks,
Edward Brooks
Business development
www.AdvertisingZz.info

Serial Port Problems

2014-10-03 Thread Ethan Rosenberg

Dear List -

I am trying to capture data from a serial port and write it to a file.

ethan@meow:/var/www$ cat /dev/ttyS0  scale_value.html
cat: /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy

root@meow:/var/www#  cat /proc/tty/driver/serial
serinfo:1.0 driver revision:

0: uart:16550A port:03F8 irq:4 tx:90 rx:270 brk:2 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR|CD
1: uart:16550A port:1C90 irq:17 tx:19 rx:0 CTS|DSR|CD
2: uart:unknown port:03E8 irq:4
3: uart:unknown port:02E8 irq:3

root@meow:/var/www# cat /proc/interrupts
   CPU0   CPU1
  0: 42  0   IO-APIC-edge  timer
  1:  3  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
  4: 74 89   IO-APIC-edge  serial
  6:  2  1   IO-APIC-edge  floppy
  8:  0  1   IO-APIC-edge  rtc0
  9:  1  2   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
 12:  5  0   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
 16: 148679 155632   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb4, 
ehci_hcd:usb7
 17:  9  8   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb2, uhci_hcd:usb5, 
i801_smbus
 18:131143   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb3, ehci_hcd:usb6, 
uhci_hcd:usb8
 40:   54993721  0  HPET_MSI-edge  hpet2
 41:  0   53507648  HPET_MSI-edge  hpet3
 42:1041026 920449   PCI-MSI-edge  eth0
 43: 524549 476624   PCI-MSI-edge  ahci
 44: 11  9   PCI-MSI-edge  mei_me
 45:  46800  46570   PCI-MSI-edge  i915
 46:   1488   1583   PCI-MSI-edge  snd_hda_intel
NMI:  37245  37177   Non-maskable interrupts
LOC: 16 12   Local timer interrupts
SPU:  0  0   Spurious interrupts
PMI:  37245  37177   Performance monitoring interrupts
IWI: 258822 264271   IRQ work interrupts
RTR:  0  0   APIC ICR read retries
RES:52712095278411   Rescheduling interrupts
CAL:433693   Function call interrupts
TLB:29170132903216   TLB shootdowns
TRM:  0  0   Thermal event interrupts
THR:  0  0   Threshold APIC interrupts
MCE:  0  0   Machine check exceptions
MCP:   1061   1061   Machine check polls
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

/dev/ttyS1, Line 1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x1c90, IRQ: 17
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: none
Flags: spd_normal skip_test

root@meow:/var/www#  setserial /dev/ttyS0 -a
/dev/ttyS0, Line 0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
Baud_base: 115200, close_delay: 50, divisor: 0
closing_wait: 3000
Flags: spd_normal skip_test

How do I get rid of the busy message?

TIA

Ethan


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kernel announcing ip address on wrong interface

2014-10-03 Thread Andreas Pflug
Using the 3.2 kernel, I have the strange situation that an ip address
moves to an unconfigured interface.

network/interfaces looks like this:

auto eth0 

iface eth0 inet manual

  up ifconfig eth0 promisc up

auto eth1

iface eth1 inet manual

  up ifconfig eth1 promisc up

auto eth2

iface eth2 inet manual

  up ifconfig eth2 promisc up

auto bond0

iface bond0 inet manual

  up ifenslave bond0 eth1 eth2

 

auto backbone

iface backbone inet static

  address 192.168.0.1

  netmask 255.255.255.0

  bridge_ports bond0


eth0 has a mac address of x.x.x.x.x.01, eth1/2 y.y.y.y.y.02

Now I randomly observe on the firewall (freebsd based) the message
kernel:arp: 192.168.0.1 moved from y.y.y.y.y.02 to x.x.x.x.x.01(or
other way round), which means that the traffic to 192.168.0.1 (and
subsequent VM traffic on that XEN host) is travelling down the wrong
interface.

Actually, eth0 and eth1/2 are connected to the same network, but vlan
and mtu restrictions are different so some networking trouble will
happen intermittently. This happens with no ip address on eth0
configured; to stop the misbehaviour I'd have to down the interface.
This happens on several machines with different drivers.

Apparently the problem isn't originating from the bonding driver; I have
the same situation if using openvswitch 1.45, adding eth1/2 directly to
the openvswitch bridge as lacp pair.

From my understanding, the kernel isn't expected to ever ARP announce
the 192.168.0.1 address on eth0. Can anybody shed some light on what's
happening here?

Regards
Andreas


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Re: kernel announcing ip address on wrong interface

2014-10-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Andreas Pflug pgad...@pse-consulting.de wrote:
 Using the 3.2 kernel, I have the strange situation that an ip address
 moves to an unconfigured interface.

 network/interfaces looks like this:

 auto eth0 
 iface eth0 inet manual
  up ifconfig eth0 promisc up

 auto eth1
 iface eth1 inet manual
  up ifconfig eth1 promisc up

 auto eth2
 iface eth2 inet manual
  up ifconfig eth2 promisc up

Why do you force promiscous mode? This should normally be not needed.

 auto bond0
 iface bond0 inet manual
  up ifenslave bond0 eth1 eth2

Why do you manually use ifenslave instead of just using the provided
stanzas like this?

auto bond0
iface bond0 inet manual
 slaves eth1 eth2

 auto backbone
 iface backbone inet static
  address 192.168.0.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  bridge_ports bond0

 eth0 has a mac address of x.x.x.x.x.01, eth1/2 y.y.y.y.y.02

 Now I randomly observe on the firewall (freebsd based) the message
 kernel:arp: 192.168.0.1 moved from y.y.y.y.y.02 to x.x.x.x.x.01(or
 other way round), which means that the traffic to 192.168.0.1 (and
 subsequent VM traffic on that XEN host) is travelling down the wrong
 interface.

 Actually, eth0 and eth1/2 are connected to the same network, but vlan
 and mtu restrictions are different so some networking trouble will
 happen intermittently. This happens with no ip address on eth0
 configured; to stop the misbehaviour I'd have to down the interface.
 This happens on several machines with different drivers.

What do you mean by but vlan and mtu restrictions are different? If
eth0 and eth1/2 are connected to different VLANs, then they are _not_
connected to the same network. But if they are, you are asking for
exactly the problems you are seeing.

Please clarify your setup.

From my understanding, the kernel isn't expected to ever ARP announce
 the 192.168.0.1 address on eth0. Can anybody shed some light on what's
 happening here?

It is, if all eth's are conneted to the same network. Google weak host
model.

In Linux, the IPs don't belong to an interface but to the host at all.
The kernel will happily announce (via ARP) any IP it owns, even the
ones on 'lo', on any interface. This behavior is configurable, but it is
always better so first correct any network configuration errors or
misconceptions.

Grüße,
dven.

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Re: kernel announcing ip address on wrong interface

2014-10-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014, Sven Hartge wrote:
 It is, if all eth's are conneted to the same network. Google weak host
 model.
 
 In Linux, the IPs don't belong to an interface but to the host at all.
 The kernel will happily announce (via ARP) any IP it owns, even the
 ones on 'lo', on any interface. This behavior is configurable, but it is
 always better so first correct any network configuration errors or
 misconceptions.

Indeed.  It is also annoying as all heck, as it is almost never what you
want nowadays.  Oh well...

https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git/tree/Documentation/networking/ip-sysctl.txt?h=linux-3.2.y

has the gory sysctl details to change ARP behaviour on the 3.2 kernel.


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Re: kernel announcing ip address on wrong interface

2014-10-03 Thread Andreas Pflug
Hi Sven,

Am 03.10.14 um 16:13 schrieb Sven Hartge:
 Andreas Pflug pgad...@pse-consulting.de wrote:
 Using the 3.2 kernel, I have the strange situation that an ip address
 moves to an unconfigured interface.
 network/interfaces looks like this:
 auto eth0 
 iface eth0 inet manual
  up ifconfig eth0 promisc up
 auto eth1
 iface eth1 inet manual
  up ifconfig eth1 promisc up
 auto eth2
 iface eth2 inet manual
  up ifconfig eth2 promisc up
 Why do you force promiscous mode? This should normally be not needed.

 auto bond0
 iface bond0 inet manual
  up ifenslave bond0 eth1 eth2
 Why do you manually use ifenslave instead of just using the provided
 stanzas like this?

 auto bond0
 iface bond0 inet manual
  slaves eth1 eth2
legacy stuff... shouldn't matter I believe?


 auto backbone
 iface backbone inet static
  address 192.168.0.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  bridge_ports bond0
 eth0 has a mac address of x.x.x.x.x.01, eth1/2 y.y.y.y.y.02
 Now I randomly observe on the firewall (freebsd based) the message
 kernel:arp: 192.168.0.1 moved from y.y.y.y.y.02 to x.x.x.x.x.01(or
 other way round), which means that the traffic to 192.168.0.1 (and
 subsequent VM traffic on that XEN host) is travelling down the wrong
 interface.
 Actually, eth0 and eth1/2 are connected to the same network, but vlan
 and mtu restrictions are different so some networking trouble will
 happen intermittently. This happens with no ip address on eth0
 configured; to stop the misbehaviour I'd have to down the interface.
 This happens on several machines with different drivers.
 What do you mean by but vlan and mtu restrictions are different? If
 eth0 and eth1/2 are connected to different VLANs, then they are _not_
 connected to the same network. But if they are, you are asking for
 exactly the problems you are seeing.

 Please clarify your setup.

eth0: 1GB switch, VLANs PVID 1 and tagged 185, MTU 1500
eth1/2: 10GB switch, VLANs PVID 1 and tagged 173-175, MTU 9216

The IP in question belongs to VLAN 1.


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Re: kernel announcing ip address on wrong interface

2014-10-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Andreas Pflug pgad...@pse-consulting.de wrote:
 auto backbone
 iface backbone inet static
  address 192.168.0.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0
  bridge_ports bond0

 eth0 has a mac address of x.x.x.x.x.01, eth1/2 y.y.y.y.y.02 Now I
 randomly observe on the firewall (freebsd based) the message
 kernel:arp: 192.168.0.1 moved from y.y.y.y.y.02 to x.x.x.x.x.01(or
 other way round), which means that the traffic to 192.168.0.1 (and
 subsequent VM traffic on that XEN host) is travelling down the wrong
 interface.

 Actually, eth0 and eth1/2 are connected to the same network, but
 vlan and mtu restrictions are different so some networking trouble
 will happen intermittently. This happens with no ip address on eth0
 configured; to stop the misbehaviour I'd have to down the interface.
 This happens on several machines with different drivers.

 What do you mean by but vlan and mtu restrictions are different? If
 eth0 and eth1/2 are connected to different VLANs, then they are _not_
 connected to the same network. But if they are, you are asking for
 exactly the problems you are seeing.

 Please clarify your setup.

 eth0: 1GB switch, VLANs PVID 1 and tagged 185, MTU 1500
 eth1/2: 10GB switch, VLANs PVID 1 and tagged 173-175, MTU 9216

 The IP in question belongs to VLAN 1.

Well, then eth0 and bond0 are connected to the same LAN and the behavior
you see is to be expected.

Clean up your network setup and the problem will be gone.

Or you can change the behavior of the Linux kernel with the sysctl
Henrique mentioned, but I consider doing so a bad workaround; cleaning
up your network setup will shield you from other surprises down the
road.

Grüße,
Sven.

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hdmi video output

2014-10-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

hi,
I recently installed a Nvidia Geforce 750Ti on my desktop, and would like
to use it's hdmi output, but I'am unable to make it.
I saw a lot of similar questions on the Net, but no real answer.
Can anybody give me a hint?
PS: I'm also surprised to find that the quality of the text in console displays
is so bad. Did anybody note that?

best regards,
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Re: kernel announcing ip address on wrong interface

2014-10-03 Thread Sven Hartge
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote:
 On Fri, 03 Oct 2014, Sven Hartge wrote:

 It is, if all eth's are conneted to the same network. Google weak
 host model.
 
 In Linux, the IPs don't belong to an interface but to the host at
 all.  The kernel will happily announce (via ARP) any IP it owns,
 even the ones on 'lo', on any interface. This behavior is
 configurable, but it is always better so first correct any network
 configuration errors or misconceptions.

 Indeed.  It is also annoying as all heck, as it is almost never what
 you want nowadays.  Oh well...

Annoying? I don't know.

In my experience this problem mostly happens to people trying to
cheaply load-balance connections by using two or more ethernet
interfaces with different IPs on the same network.

In my opinion this is a misconception/misconfiguration, you should use a
bonding/teaming interface, either with LACP oder ALB, depending on the
features of your switch.

Sure, you can fiddle with the sysctls concerning ARP, but this will not
solve the problem of having only one default route for LAN-external
traffic.

All in all, in my opinion (please correct me, if there are any
oversights or errors in my observations) trying to solve this problem
with Linux requires a complex usage of correct ip rule and ip route
and makes your setup more brittle and error probe.

Better design your network in a correct and clean way, so you never have
to change the way the Linux kernel interacts with it. Reduces the amount
of surprise the next admin of your setup will have.

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Squid security 2014:3 and 2014:4

2014-10-03 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


Rob van der Putten wrote:


http://www.squid-cache.org/Advisories/SQUID-2014_3.txt
http://www.squid-cache.org/Advisories/SQUID-2014_4.txt

SNMP is default off. But how about the pinger?


Is switched the pinger off.


Regards,
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Re: hdmi video output

2014-10-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 03 October 2014 16:40:11 Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
 hi,
 I recently installed a Nvidia Geforce 750Ti on my desktop, and would like
 to use it's hdmi output, but I'am unable to make it.
 I saw a lot of similar questions on the Net, but no real answer.
 Can anybody give me a hint?
 PS: I'm also surprised to find that the quality of the text in console
 displays is so bad. Did anybody note that?

 best regards,
 --
 Pierre Frenkiel

To solve the same apparent problem, I installed pavucontrol, which was not 
installed, and turned HDMI on (it was off by default).  But YMMV of course.

Lisi


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Throw clarity to the world

2014-10-03 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
Windows 10 has just been launched, so perhaps you'll want to make sure 
some people gets educated by giving your insight:


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=windows+10




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Re: kernel announcing ip address on wrong interface

2014-10-03 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014, Sven Hartge wrote:
 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org wrote:
  It is, if all eth's are conneted to the same network. Google weak
  host model.
 
  Indeed.  It is also annoying as all heck, as it is almost never what
  you want nowadays.  Oh well...
 
 Annoying? I don't know.

IMHO, yes it is.  As far as I'm concerned, nowadays it is far more important
for badly configured (or incorrectly wired) nodes to break immediately.

It ends up being better for continued operations in the long run, at least
IME.

Basically, it boils down to the fact that pushing surprising or strange
packets down the wire has not been a good idea for at least 10 years.  And
accepting those is an even worse idea nowadays.

The result of weak host model applied to ARP certainly causes the end node
to both generate and maybe even accept a lot of strange traffic.  My
experience with the Linux kernel ARP filter defaults is a bit dated, though.
It is possible that the defaults are a bit more sane than the last time I
had to mess with them, either in 2.6.32.y or early 3.0.  But I doubt it,
there was resistence in LKML to change these defaults.

 In my experience this problem mostly happens to people trying to
 cheaply load-balance connections by using two or more ethernet
 interfaces with different IPs on the same network.

If only it were just that.  The Linux ARP defaults used to (and probably
still do) break the perfectly sane scenario of two interfaces connecting two
different subnets that are members of the same broadcast domain (same
vlan/network).  Let's not even try the scenario with two interfaces in the
same subnet and broadcast domain...

You often need to take an extra step for the breakage to be apparent, such
as firewalling, or a switch enforcing a secure L2 domain, etc.

-- 
  One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Throw clarity to the world

2014-10-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:30:01 +0200
Alberto Salvia Novella es204904...@gmail.com wrote:

 Windows 10 has just been launched, so perhaps you'll want to make
 sure some people gets educated by giving your insight:
 
 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=windows+10

LOL, you can add a desktop (AKA workspace). Cool! I think fvwm had that
in the 20th century!

That snap feature to tile your windows actually looks pretty good.
Anyone know of an equivalent command for Openbox?

Thanks,

SteveT

Steve Litt*  http://www.troubleshooters.com/
Troubleshooting Training  *  Human Performance


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Re: Throw clarity to the world

2014-10-03 Thread Brian
On Fri 03 Oct 2014 at 14:07:15 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:

 Anyone know of an equivalent command for Openbox?

No, but we can all recognise useless spammy posts. (Which post is he
referring to?, everyone is now asking). But there is always one.


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lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-03 Thread lee
Hi,

how can I create a LVM snapshot of a VM?


root@heimdall:~# lvcreate -L 4G -s /dev/mapper/vg_guests-lv_jarl -n 
lv_snap_jarl /dev/mapper/vg_mydata
  Physical Volume /dev/mapper/vg_mydata not found in Volume Group vg_guests
root@heimdall:~#


There is no free space in 'vg_guests'.  The only free space is in
'vg_mydata'.

Can I create a snapshot over the network on disks an another machine?
Can I extend 'vg_guests', using the free space of 'vg_mydata'?  Or would
I have to shrink 'vg_mydata' to have free space to be able to extend
'vg_guests' to be able to create a snapshot?


I want to back up the VM without shutting it down.  If it can't
avoided, I could shut it down to take the backup.  In that case, how
would I copy the volume to get a useful backup file?

I think I wish I had used btrfs ...


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Afatech AF9013 -- MSI Digivox Duo DVB-T Stick

2014-10-03 Thread Mark Carroll
I am running wheezy and having curious trouble getting a DVB-T USB stick
working well.

The kernel log has encouraging messages, like,

usb 4-4: new high-speed USB device number 2 using ehci-pci
usb 4-4: Product: DVB-T 2
usb 4-4: dvb_usb_v2: found a 'MSI DIGIVOX Duo' in cold state
usb 4-4: firmware: direct-loading firmware dvb-usb-af9015.fw
usb 4-4: dvb_usb_v2: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the 
software demuxer
dvb_usb_v2: 'MSI DIGIVOX Duo' successfully initialized and connected

and I have some nice,

/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0 /dev/dvb/adapter1/demux0
/dev/dvb/adapter0/dvr0   /dev/dvb/adapter1/dvr0
/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0  /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0
/dev/dvb/adapter0/net0   /dev/dvb/adapter1/net0

I have tried a few dvb-usb-af9015.fw -- my current one has MD5 sum
4ea04354bb30fba400c7c84abf99ac13 which I think is meant to be v5.24.

w_scan -ft -cGB reports happily things like,

Info: using DVB adapter auto detection.
/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 - TERRESTRIAL Afatech AF9013: good :-)
/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 - TERRESTRIAL Afatech AF9013: good :-)
Using TERRESTRIAL frontend (adapter /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0)

and then it scans a lot and finds only 25 channels. (Whereas, if I have
w_scan just find the tuning data with -x, the resulting file has five
entries from which scan and dvbv5-scan can tune to no channels at all,
and dvbscan just sits on the CPU for very many hours until I get bored
of waiting.)

Given those 25 channels from w_scan, I can record them with tzap, but
the signal is poor and the audio and video are a little out of sync on
playback.

I plug the same antenna cable (the plug fitting rather more snugly) into
our cheap Chinese DVB-T2 box and it shows all the expected HD channels
just fine at good quality.

Is this at all surprising? Are there easy fixes I could try?

-- Mark


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Re: [solved] fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-10-03 Thread Vincent W. Chen
On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Charlie aries...@ipstarmail.com.au wrote:
 On Thu, 2 Oct 2014 17:47:43 +1000 Charlie sent:


   On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 17:33:43 -0700 Vincent mentioned this:
   Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires
   gvfs).

  On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Charlie
  aries...@ipstarmail.com.au wrote:
  
 On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:51:41 -0700 Vincent mentioned this:
   Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires
 gvfs).
  
   On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Charlie
   aries...@ipstarmail.com.au wrote:
   
  On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:20:27 +0200 lee mentioned this:
Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero
requires gvfs).
   
   
 Steve Litt sl...@troubleshooters.com writes:

 Because you use fvwm on a regular basis, you should write
 some documentation on it.
   
Please check out [1] --- let me know if it works for you and
how you like it.
   
   
[1]: https://github.com/lee-/fvwm
   
   
--
Knowledge is volatile and fluid.  Software is power.
   
   
  From my keyboard:
   
   Hello Lee,
   
  I've just had a cursory read and you have put a lot of
effort into this. Thank you on behalf of those of us who will
appreciate and use it.
   
I have a meeting to attend this morning that will keep me away
most of the day, so I won't have the time to read all of it
till I return.
   
But just quickly and without the history why I moved from fvwm
to xfce4.
   
I used the win95 script to get an fvwm setup quickly. I'm
tweaking as i go along as time permits.
   
I wanted to get the Debian Menu into the fvwm Root menu to get
rid of the taskbar but have not found yet, how that can be
done.
   
  
   Examples of how the Debian menu is configured and used is
   provided as part of the Fvwm package,
   under /usr/share/doc/fvwm/examples/.
  
   It is composed of three parts:
   1. A function definition
  
   DestroyFunc SetDebianMenu
   AddToFunc SetDebianMenu
   + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
  
   Which when called will read from the menudefs.hook under
   /etc/X11/fvwm/. This menudefs.hook defines the structure of the
   Debian menu, but is not yet linked to your personal menu. The
   name of the Debian menu is /Debian.
  
   2. Calling the function
  
   Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) SetDebianMenu
  
   Which will first test if the menu exists, then calls the function
   defined in step 1. This line can be put anywhere you like, as
   long as it's after the function definition.
  
   3. Add the Debian menu to your menu
  
   Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) + Debian Menu Popup
   /Debian
  
   Insert this as part of your menu definitions, under
   'AddToMenu ...'. This instructs Fvwm to insert an entry to popup
   the menu /Debian.
  
   Hope it helps,
  
   Vincent Chen
  
  
 From my keyboard:
  
  Hello Vincent,
  
 Thanks you for that. Doesn't do it for me. I want to get rid
   of the taskbar and just have the Debian menu available through the
 left mouse click on the desktop instead.
  
   But it doesn't work for me at all. I can get rid of the taskbar,
   but then I don't have a Debian menu I can call up every
   application in the Debian menu in a terminal, but that's just too
   tedious.
  
  That's because you didn't follow the steps I laid out. Insert the
  snippets I provided in step 1 and 2 directly in your config file.
  Not inside the root menu or any other directives, but directly in
  your config file.
 
   In my menus - Root Menu - there is already this in part:
  
   + Restart%mini.turn.xpm% Popup Restart
   + Quit fvwm%mini.stop.xpm%   FvwmForm
   FvwmForm-QuitVerify Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) +
   $[gt.Update My Debian Menu]%menu/terminal.xpm% PipeRead
   'update-menus   echo Read $./menudefs.hook'
  
  Because this does exactly what it says: Update My Debian Menu.
  _IF_ you already have a Debian menu, clicking this entry will
  update the Debian menu. This has nothing to do with actually
  providing the Debian menu entry in your menu.
 
   But It doesn't show up so I might have to edit it, but don't know
   how. So will have to keep playing about when I get time.
  
  Insert the snippet in step 3 in your menu. That's what will actually
  insert the Debian menu entry in your own menu.
 
  I'll try and restate what is being done:
  - Steps 1 and 2 defines the structure of the Debian menu, and makes
  Fvwm aware of what the Debian menu looks like.
  - Step 3 is what makes Fvwm actually show the Debian menu as a menu
  entry.
 
  If you only do steps 1 and 2, Fvwm will know about the Debian menu,
  but does not display it anywhere. If you only do step 3, Fvwm will
  display a menu entry, but will have no idea what this /Debian menu
  is.
 
  Regards,
 
  Vincent


   From my keyboard:

Hello Vincent,

   Thank you for your 

Re: Serial Port Problems

2014-10-03 Thread David Christensen

On 10/03/2014 05:43 AM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

I am trying to capture data from a serial port and write it to a file.
ethan@meow:/var/www$ cat /dev/ttyS0  scale_value.html
cat: /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy


I also found that userland tools don't work very well with serial ports. 
 Per your previous post, the options seem to be using a terminal 
emulator or writing code:


https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg02107.html


I'd suggest looking for a terminal emulator that can write everything to 
a log file.



David


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Re: Serial Port Problems

2014-10-03 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 08:43:50AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 Dear List -
 
 I am trying to capture data from a serial port and write it to a file.
 
 ethan@meow:/var/www$ cat /dev/ttyS0  scale_value.html
 cat: /dev/ttyS0: Device or resource busy
 

lsof /dev/ttyS0

(tells you what is holding that port open)

-dsr-


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Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-03 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Oct 02, 2014 at 08:24:21PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 On 10/01/2014 03:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:26:48PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
 root@meow:/home/ethan#  setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0123]
 /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
 /dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x1c90, IRQ: 17
 
 More info from the manual --
 
 9600 baud, 7 data bits, even parity, 1 stop bit
 
 Transmits weight and scale status whenever ASCII 'W'CR is sent by the POS 
 terminal.
 
 Minicom set up as  9600,7,e,1.
 Terminal ANSI
 No response from tapping W.

Check that this is ttyS0, not ttyS1; check that the cable is
good; check that the scale is on. Does it need an initialization
sequence?

-dsr-


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Re: hdmi video output

2014-10-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Fri, 3 Oct 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:


To solve the same apparent problem, I installed pavucontrol, which was not
installed, and turned HDMI on (it was off by default).  But YMMV of course.


  hi Lisi,
  I installed pavucontrol, but I don't see how it is related to my problem
  of video output:
  My VGA cable is plugged into the VGA port of the Geforce, and
  the HDMi cable is plugged into the HDMI port.  If I unplug the VGA cable,
  I have no output on my monitor.
  BTW, how do you turn HDMI on?

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Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/2/2014 8:24 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 On 10/01/2014 03:20 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 11:26:48PM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
 Dear List -

 I have an Avery Berkel POS  [Point Of Sale] scale which I wish to
 integrate into a POS system. The output is sent to a RS232 port. I
 do not know how to extract the data.

 Here is what I have about the RS232 port:

 ethan@meow:~$ dmesg | grep tty
 [0.00] console [tty0] enabled
 [0.383854] 00:07: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4, base_baud =
 115200) is a 16550A
 [0.404352] :00:03.3: ttyS1 at I/O 0x1c90 (irq = 17, base_baud
 = 115200) is a 16550A


 root@meow:/home/ethan#  setserial -g /dev/ttyS[0123]
 /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
 /dev/ttyS1, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x1c90, IRQ: 17
 /dev/ttyS2, UART: unknown, Port: 0x03e8, IRQ: 4
 /dev/ttyS3, UART: unknown, Port: 0x02e8, IRQ: 3


 More info from the manual --

 9600 baud, 7 data bits, even parity, 1 stop bit

 Transmits weight and scale status whenever ASCII 'W'CR is sent by
 the POS terminal.

 Well, one option would be to install minicom (apt-get will find
 it for you), set your default serial port to /dev/ttyS0, set it
 at 9600,7,e,1. Then plug it in and see if tapping W gets you
 a response.

 /dev/ttyS0 will look just like a file, if you're writing a
 program, and you can read from it and write to it just like any
 other file.

 -dsr-

 Dan -
 
 EXCELLENT!!
 
 Minicom set up as  9600,7,e,1.
 Terminal ANSI
 No response from tapping W.
 
 TIA
 
 Ethan
 
 

In addition to Dan's comments - is your cable OK?  Do you need a
straight-through cable or a cross-over cable?  Does the terminal
require/honor DSR/TSR and RTS/CTS?  If so, are these lines active?

You may need a breakout box on the cable to see what's happening on the
lines.

Jerry


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Re: lvm: creating a snapshot

2014-10-03 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Fri, Oct 03, 2014 at 08:43:06PM +0200, lee wrote:
 Hi,
 
 how can I create a LVM snapshot of a VM?
 
 
 root@heimdall:~# lvcreate -L 4G -s /dev/mapper/vg_guests-lv_jarl -n 
 lv_snap_jarl /dev/mapper/vg_mydata
   Physical Volume /dev/mapper/vg_mydata not found in Volume Group 
 vg_guests
 root@heimdall:~#
 
 
 There is no free space in 'vg_guests'.  The only free space is in
 'vg_mydata'.

That's a problem.  Snapshots must be in the same volume group - they
are essentially copy-on-write (sort-of).

 Can I create a snapshot over the network on disks an another
 machine?

No

 Can I extend 'vg_guests', using the free space of 'vg_mydata'?

Not directly. But you *can* merge the two volume groups - but that
requires all of the logical volumes in the old volume group are
inactive (i.e. unmounted and closed):

E.g. to merge oldvg and newvg and end up with a new (larger) newvg:

   lvchange -an oldvg
   vgmerge newvg oldvg

 Or would
 I have to shrink 'vg_mydata' to have free space to be able to extend
 'vg_guests' to be able to create a snapshot?

This is probably possible - depends on whether you can completely free
up a PV.

Note that a PV (physical volume) can only belong to *one* volume
group.  So if you can shave off a PV from one volume group, then you
can attach it to a different volume group instead.

You can also resize PVs, but since this usually requires messing with
partition tables and such things may require a reboot, this may not be
suitable for your situation. 

 I want to back up the VM without shutting it down.  If it can't
 avoided, I could shut it down to take the backup.  In that case, how
 would I copy the volume to get a useful backup file?
 
 I think I wish I had used btrfs ...

btrfs is good - if you are working with files.  When working with
block devices, LVM rules.

But... if you had set things up the analogous way with btrfs, you
would still have the same problem, and you would be asking Can I
snapshot from one BTRFS file system into another BTRFS file system?

It sounds you have a strange concept of volume groups here though: one
set of PVs for data and another set for guests ?  Once you
segregate things like that, then you have to live with them being
separate.

The volume group concept is for grouping the *disks*, so you can treat
a group of disks with similar properties as a
interchangeable.  So it makes more sense to have volume groups for
e.g. 15krpm and SSD.  Or you can just have one big volume group,
which makes disk upgrades seamless.

Hope this helps
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wrong mount point after update

2014-10-03 Thread José Silva

Hello,

On my Jessie x64, until today, I was used to my usb disks being mounted 
at /media/myuser/disklabel.


After today's update, the first disk always get mounted at /media/usb0 
and the ones after that, follow the old rule as above.


This is bad for me because my virtual machines reside on a usb disk 
whose pointers are on the virtualbox database and the system gets all 
scrambled. I know I can use symlinks but it is not practical because the 
mounting point keeps changing depending on whether it is the first to be 
mounted or not.


Anyone knows what's going on? Thank in advance for all the help you can 
provide.



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Re: excessive CPU usage (SOLVED)

2014-10-03 Thread Gary Roach

On 09/21/2014 11:54 AM, Gary Roach wrote:

Hi all

For the last few months I have been plagued by very slow response from 
my system. As an example, it takes 2 1/2 minutes to drag and drop 80 
files from my email inbox to the trash bin in icedove. It has taken as 
high as 5 minutes for iceweasel to load. This problem is not just 
these packages but also applies to all of the rest of my programs.


I am using Debian Wheezy with a i5750 4 core processor on a fast Intel 
board. I run a kde desktop. All the software is up to date.


I have checked all of the log files and can't find any anomalies. 
Rebooting doesn't help.


Using the KDE System Monitor (ksysguard) I have noticed that at least 
one of the processors goes to 100% and stays there for long periods 
even though there is no noticeable activity in the process tables. The 
only other thing I have noticed (the printing just hung up while I am 
writing this) is that the hard drive indicator comes on and stays on 
during the processor activity. I ran some checks on the hard drive but 
found no indication of any hard drive problems.


Has anyone else had a similar problem or have any idea what is going on.

Thanks in advance

Gary R.


Thanks for all of the help. It was pointed out on a web site I found 
that SMART item 5 - Reallocated_Sector_Cnt - was zero, indicating that 
there was no bad sectors found. Further, all of the logged errors were 
DMA Read / Write errors that occurred very recently. To me, this 
indicated a problem with the drives logic board. I bought an identical 
drive - except a Caviar Black instead of Green -  and used Clonezilla to 
clone the original to the new drive. I had to use the -recover- mode 
because of the errors. It took most of the day but finally completed. I 
unplugged the old drive and rebooted the system. Everything works great. 
The black drive is faster than the green one so the system is even more 
responsive that it was originally.


Thanks again for all of the help. Using SMART works if you can ever 
figure out what all of that cryptic data means.


Gary R.


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Re: wrong mount point after update

2014-10-03 Thread José Silva

On 03/10/14 23:44, José Silva wrote:

Hello,

On my Jessie x64, until today, I was used to my usb disks being mounted
at /media/myuser/disklabel.

After today's update, the first disk always get mounted at /media/usb0
and the ones after that, follow the old rule as above.



Further observation, the first usb disk gets mounted read-only, 
presumably because it is out of user area. This is really weird.

jss


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Re: [solved] fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-10-03 Thread Charlie

  On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 19:34:48 + Vincent mentioned this: 
Re: [solved] fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero
  requires gvfs).

huge snip

 If you open /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook and take a look at the first
 few lines, it says that the file is auto-generated (which is the whole
 point of the Debian menu system: you don't have to manually edit the
 menu file every time a new application is installed/uninstalled). So
 your custom edits might be replaced in the future.
 
 If you want to add an entry to your menu, why not do it directly? You
 don't have to add it to the Debian menu. Trying to add to the Debian
 menu involves knowing the internal layout of the menu, which is
 probably more work than it's worth. But if you insist:
 
 If you have your own menudefs.hook in ~/.fvwm/, then you have to tell
 Fvwm to actually read the file. Add an extra line to the function from
 step 1:
 
 DestroyFunc SetDebianMenu
 AddToFunc SetDebianMenu
 + I Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
 + I Read ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook
 
  All a bit tricky.
 
  Thanks for your time in this, but please don't waste any more time
  on this. I feel guilty that you have already spent too much time
  already. 
 Well, I happened to be the current maintainer for the Fvwm package, so
 providing support is part of what I do. You could say I've already
 wasted enough time on Fvwm as it is :-P
 
  Thank you,
  Charlie  
 
  Hello Vincent,
 
  I left everything as described above.
 
  Deleted: Read bindings in my .fvwm2rc file and that now allows me to
  just click on the desktop and have access to the Debian Menu.
 
  I removed the taskbar by the relevant section in the functions file
  and this looks as I like just what, for me at least, is desired.
   
 I take it that the Debian menu is now working for you? Great!
 
 Regards,
 
 Vincent

  From my keyboard:

   Hello Vincent,

  Regardless that you are the current maintainer of fvwm, I still
  thank you for the time and effort you have expended on this and
  the help given which has produced the results I desire.

I have taken your advice as above, so here is how it reads:

#
# This is the Debian menu call as suggested by Vincent W Chen.
# Debian Menu
#

DestroyFunc SetDebianMenu
AddToFunc SetDebianMenu
+ I Read /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook
+ I Read ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook
Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) SetDebianMenu

Just out of curiosity, because it certainly works and if it ain't broke
don't fix it I think.

Do I still require the:

Test (f /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook) SetDebianMenu

It doesn't appear to be a problem at all when I restart fvwm so I won't
remove it at all. Just made me wonder where I should put the line
you recommended: + I Read ~/.fvwm/menudefs.hook

Before or after that line? As you can see, I have placed it before.
Will it still work there? Bearing in mind that I have done it the wrong
way round, worked on my /etc/X11/fvwm/menudefs.hook and then copied it
to ~/.fvwm. So they are both the same and therefore I can't tell which
one the system is reading. [laughing] It seems to work anyway.

yes the Debian Menu is working a treat. Thank you.

Only if you have time and are inclined to answer the question: What
does that line actually do? As you will see I really have no idea what
I'm doing. I just remove and add things and use various bits and pieces
from sample fvwn2rc files and test them in various places to see if
they do what I want rather than need.

This all because I like to have things just so, though I'm able to
live with things not so. My problem is that anything not so, is niggled
at when time permits. It's a terrible flaw in my character. But that's
also why I appreciate your help so much.

So thanks again, it is appreciated.

Stay well,
Charlie
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Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 10/2/2014 8:24 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 [...]

 In addition to Dan's comments - is your cable OK?  Do you need a
 straight-through cable or a cross-over cable?  Does the terminal
 require/honor DSR/TSR and RTS/CTS?  If so, are these lines active?

 You may need a breakout box on the cable to see what's happening on the
 lines.

If, for some reason, you can't get a breakout box, you may be able to
do basic tests on the cable with a multimeter (ohm-meter or
connectivity function), the pin diagrams, some patience, and maybe an
extra pair of hands (if you can't find small-mouth alligator clips or
pin clips). Just don't tell whoever handles requisitions/budget unless
they understand that patience costs time and money when doing things
like this. You have to be really careful to keep the leads from
slipping, and not noticing a slipped lead can cost hours of
unnecessary work.And there are tests you really don't want to try
without a breakout box or the equivalent.

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Re: Throw clarity to the world

2014-10-03 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella

John Garret:

Probably no worse than Poettering/OS


But the topic was Windows, not SystemDance :)





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Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/3/2014 8:19 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 10/2/2014 8:24 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 [...]

 In addition to Dan's comments - is your cable OK?  Do you need a
 straight-through cable or a cross-over cable?  Does the terminal
 require/honor DSR/TSR and RTS/CTS?  If so, are these lines active?

 You may need a breakout box on the cable to see what's happening on the
 lines.
 
 If, for some reason, you can't get a breakout box, you may be able to
 do basic tests on the cable with a multimeter (ohm-meter or
 connectivity function), the pin diagrams, some patience, and maybe an
 extra pair of hands (if you can't find small-mouth alligator clips or
 pin clips). Just don't tell whoever handles requisitions/budget unless
 they understand that patience costs time and money when doing things
 like this. You have to be really careful to keep the leads from
 slipping, and not noticing a slipped lead can cost hours of
 unnecessary work.And there are tests you really don't want to try
 without a breakout box or the equivalent.
 

Why couldn't he?  They're cheap, i.e.
http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_14285_-1.

Note if he's using DB9 connectors he would need a pair of DB9-DB25
connectors.  But they are also cheap.


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Two Z Shells

2014-10-03 Thread John Aten
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Hi all,

I just installed z shell through: 

#apt-get install zsh zsh-doc

Before installing, I looked for it with which and whereis. I got nothing from 
which, (it now lists /usr/bin/zsh) and when I typed whereis zsh it only 
returned:

# whereis zsh
zsh:
#

I notice now that /etc/shells lists two Z shells;

/bin/zsh
/usr/bin/zsh

I was wondering why this might be?

Thanks,

J





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Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 10/3/2014 8:19 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 10/2/2014 8:24 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 [...]

 In addition to Dan's comments - is your cable OK?  Do you need a
 straight-through cable or a cross-over cable?  Does the terminal
 require/honor DSR/TSR and RTS/CTS?  If so, are these lines active?

 You may need a breakout box on the cable to see what's happening on the
 lines.

 If, for some reason, you can't get a breakout box, you may be able to
 do basic tests on the cable with a multimeter (ohm-meter or
 connectivity function), the pin diagrams, some patience, and maybe an
 extra pair of hands (if you can't find small-mouth alligator clips or
 pin clips). Just don't tell whoever handles requisitions/budget unless
 they understand that patience costs time and money when doing things
 like this. You have to be really careful to keep the leads from
 slipping, and not noticing a slipped lead can cost hours of
 unnecessary work.And there are tests you really don't want to try
 without a breakout box or the equivalent.


 Why couldn't he?  They're cheap, i.e.
 http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_14285_-1.

 Note if he's using DB9 connectors he would need a pair of DB9-DB25
 connectors.  But they are also cheap.

Uhm, maybe he has a multimeter now, and doesn't want to wait for
overnight shipping or take the time to run down to a supply house
downtown or even wait for said supply house to do a same-day delivery.

Or maybe finances at the company are really, really tight right at the moment.

Now, of course, if the supply house is next door, and his company is
okay with people bringing in tools paid for out-of-pocket, going and
getting it would be a good excuse to take a half-hour break anyway
(assuming no lines at the supply house).

My point was simply that connectivity checks don't need a breakout box.

Breakout boxes do make them more convenient, and quicker, and give
more reliable results. Not to mention enabling more in-depth testing,
especially if you have an oscilloscope with data capture.

I'm not arguing with you on this one, Jerry, I was just offering an
alternative. Not a great alternative, but maybe a useful one.

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Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/3/2014 9:52 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 10/3/2014 8:19 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net 
 wrote:
 On 10/2/2014 8:24 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 [...]

 In addition to Dan's comments - is your cable OK?  Do you need a
 straight-through cable or a cross-over cable?  Does the terminal
 require/honor DSR/TSR and RTS/CTS?  If so, are these lines active?

 You may need a breakout box on the cable to see what's happening on the
 lines.

 If, for some reason, you can't get a breakout box, you may be able to
 do basic tests on the cable with a multimeter (ohm-meter or
 connectivity function), the pin diagrams, some patience, and maybe an
 extra pair of hands (if you can't find small-mouth alligator clips or
 pin clips). Just don't tell whoever handles requisitions/budget unless
 they understand that patience costs time and money when doing things
 like this. You have to be really careful to keep the leads from
 slipping, and not noticing a slipped lead can cost hours of
 unnecessary work.And there are tests you really don't want to try
 without a breakout box or the equivalent.


 Why couldn't he?  They're cheap, i.e.
 http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_14285_-1.

 Note if he's using DB9 connectors he would need a pair of DB9-DB25
 connectors.  But they are also cheap.
 
 Uhm, maybe he has a multimeter now, and doesn't want to wait for
 overnight shipping or take the time to run down to a supply house
 downtown or even wait for said supply house to do a same-day delivery.
 
 Or maybe finances at the company are really, really tight right at the moment.
 
 Now, of course, if the supply house is next door, and his company is
 okay with people bringing in tools paid for out-of-pocket, going and
 getting it would be a good excuse to take a half-hour break anyway
 (assuming no lines at the supply house).
 
 My point was simply that connectivity checks don't need a breakout box.
 
 Breakout boxes do make them more convenient, and quicker, and give
 more reliable results. Not to mention enabling more in-depth testing,
 especially if you have an oscilloscope with data capture.
 
 I'm not arguing with you on this one, Jerry, I was just offering an
 alternative. Not a great alternative, but maybe a useful one.
 

If his company cannot afford $9.95 + shipping for a breakout box, then
that company is in deep crap anyway.  And if he's a consultant and can't
afford the basic tools to do his job, he shouldn't be in the business.
And he's already worked on this much more than overnight (or even
second-day) delivery would have caused a delay.

An oscilloscope (with or without data capture) is much more expensive,
and still can't monitor all of the lines concurrently - at least unless
you have an 8 channel scope (*very expensive*).  And a multimeter will
work for one wire at a time - if you have access to the lines.  But if
he has molded plugs and no access to the interior connections of the
terminal or the computer, neither a multimeter nor an oscilloscope will
be any good.

It's all about having the *right tools* to do the job.  In this case the
right tool is inexpensive and easily obtainable.

P.S. As I've told you before - there is no need to copy me.  I am
subscribed to the mailing list.

Jerry
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Re: apt update problems

2014-10-03 Thread Maureen L Thomas


On 10/03/2014 03:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Jo, 02 oct 14, 19:59:15, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

On 10/02/2014 07:19 PM, Brian wrote:

On Fri 03 Oct 2014 at 00:15:32 +0100, Brian wrote:


You have a very poorly /etc/apt/sources/list. Please post its contents.

 /etc/apt/sources.list



I did not see an update file int the

ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/dists/wheezy/.

When I look at sources.list I get the configuration thing from synaptic which 
includes the CD's from 7.6 and contains http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ 
wheezy contrib non-free main

The following is from sources.list.save

Could you please *attach* (not copy-paste or similar) your
/etc/apt/sources.list file and any other file you might have under
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?

It's important you attach them since your mailer seems to be a little
bit too helpful in formating your mails and it's important to for us to
see the same files as apt sees them.

Kind regards,
Andrei
I tried this earlier and apparently it didn't go through.  Here are the 
attached files.  I have an empty sources.list.d directory but there is 
nothing in it.  TY
# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-2 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-3 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 Update DVD 20140712: i386 DVD 1]/ wheezy 
contrib main non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates http://security.debian.org/ 
wheezy/updates non-free deb-src contrib main
deb-src ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/ 
wheezy/updates http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates non-free deb-src 
contrib main

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main
deb ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/ wheezy-updates 
contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib 
non-free
deb-src ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/ 
wheezy-updates contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates 
main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-2 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-3 
20140712-13:02]/ wheezy contrib main

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 Update DVD 20140712: i386 DVD 1]/ wheezy 
contrib main non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates http://security.debian.org/ 
wheezy/updates non-free deb-src contrib main
deb-src ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/ 
wheezy/updates http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates non-free deb-src 
contrib main

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main
deb ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/ wheezy-updates 
contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib 
non-free
deb-src ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/ 
wheezy-updates contrib deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates 
main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free


Re: Two Z Shells

2014-10-03 Thread Alexis

John Aten writes:

 I notice now that /etc/shells lists two Z shells;

 /bin/zsh
 /usr/bin/zsh

 I was wondering why this might be?

On my system, both of those are symlinks that eventually lead to the
/bin/zsh4 binary (via symlinks in /etc/alternatives/).


Alexis.


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Re: hdmi video output

2014-10-03 Thread Alexis

Pierre Frenkiel writes:

 PS: I'm also surprised to find that the quality of the text in console
 displays is so bad. Did anybody note that?

What font is your console using?


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Re: Data from a serial port

2014-10-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 10/3/2014 9:52 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 10/3/2014 8:19 PM, Joel Rees wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net 
 wrote:
 On 10/2/2014 8:24 PM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 [...]

 In addition to Dan's comments - is your cable OK?  Do you need a
 straight-through cable or a cross-over cable?  Does the terminal
 require/honor DSR/TSR and RTS/CTS?  If so, are these lines active?

 You may need a breakout box on the cable to see what's happening on the
 lines.

 If, for some reason, you can't get a breakout box, you may be able to
 do basic tests on the cable with a multimeter (ohm-meter or
 connectivity function), the pin diagrams, some patience, and maybe an
 extra pair of hands (if you can't find small-mouth alligator clips or
 pin clips). Just don't tell whoever handles requisitions/budget unless
 they understand that patience costs time and money when doing things
 like this. You have to be really careful to keep the leads from
 slipping, and not noticing a slipped lead can cost hours of
 unnecessary work.And there are tests you really don't want to try
 without a breakout box or the equivalent.


 Why couldn't he?  They're cheap, i.e.
 http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_14285_-1.

 Note if he's using DB9 connectors he would need a pair of DB9-DB25
 connectors.  But they are also cheap.

 Uhm, maybe he has a multimeter now, and doesn't want to wait for
 overnight shipping or take the time to run down to a supply house
 downtown or even wait for said supply house to do a same-day delivery.

 Or maybe finances at the company are really, really tight right at the 
 moment.

 Now, of course, if the supply house is next door, and his company is
 okay with people bringing in tools paid for out-of-pocket, going and
 getting it would be a good excuse to take a half-hour break anyway
 (assuming no lines at the supply house).

 My point was simply that connectivity checks don't need a breakout box.

 Breakout boxes do make them more convenient, and quicker, and give
 more reliable results. Not to mention enabling more in-depth testing,
 especially if you have an oscilloscope with data capture.

 I'm not arguing with you on this one, Jerry, I was just offering an
 alternative. Not a great alternative, but maybe a useful one.


 If his company cannot afford $9.95 + shipping for a breakout box, then
 that company is in deep crap anyway.

That's not the only possibility I mentioned, but I have worked for
such companies in the past. (Twice.) Whether my reasons for not
bailing immediately were valid or not is not something I care to
dredge up.

Come to think of it, I have also worked for companies where
requisitions seemed to be on greased rails, and found out the hard way
the problems you can buy yourself when you get lots of tools you don't
know how to use.

 And if he's a consultant and can't
 afford the basic tools to do his job, he shouldn't be in the business.
 And he's already worked on this much more than overnight (or even
 second-day) delivery would have caused a delay.

And maybe he would rather order a breakout box now, but still spend
fifteen minutes doing things the hard way, so that when the breakout
box comes he can be pretty confident about which end of the cable he
wants to hang it on to start with, and what extra test data he wants
to try to push down the pipe.

 An oscilloscope (with or without data capture) is much more expensive,
 and still can't monitor all of the lines concurrently - at least unless
 you have an 8 channel scope (*very expensive*).  And a multimeter will
 work for one wire at a time - if you have access to the lines.

And having a breakout box (or two, even) can help make the signals
available if he decides he wants to look at waveforms. Even a single
channel with trigger will allow you to get a llook at a byte of data
going one direction, or watch a handshake line that you might suspect
of being intermittent or having impedance problems. Or check that when
you tell the system to use handshake, it really does.

But, yeah, four or eight channels is really convenient, saves a lot of
time and crossed eyeballs and scratching your head when you have to do
this kind of stuff regularly. Not to mention much time it saves to be
able to store a sample.

 But if
 he has molded plugs and no access to the interior connections of the
 terminal or the computer, neither a multimeter nor an oscilloscope will
 be any good.

But then again, maybe he has a connector that he has popped out of the
shell for just this purpose. (Although that is essentially making a
poor-man's breakout box, and, considering the cost of a simple
breakout box and the speed of shipping, is probably a waste of time.
Unless he decides he needs something to keep his hands busy while he
takes a break, or unless 

Re: wrong mount point after update

2014-10-03 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Sat, 4 Oct 2014 00:20:19 +0100
José Silva jsantossi...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On 03/10/14 23:44, José Silva wrote:
  Hello,
 
  On my Jessie x64, until today, I was used to my usb disks being mounted
  at /media/myuser/disklabel.
 
  After today's update, the first disk always get mounted at /media/usb0
  and the ones after that, follow the old rule as above.
 
 
 Further observation, the first usb disk gets mounted read-only, 
 presumably because it is out of user area. This is really weird.
 jss
 
 

Type (as root)

grep -E YYY-mm-dd.* (install|upgrade)  /var/log/dpkg.log

to see which packages were upgraded/installed.

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Re: apt update problems

2014-10-03 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 03 Oct 2014 22:17:42 -0400
Maureen L Thomas mthomas9...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 
 On 10/03/2014 03:07 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
  On Jo, 02 oct 14, 19:59:15, Maureen L Thomas wrote:
  On 10/02/2014 07:19 PM, Brian wrote:
  On Fri 03 Oct 2014 at 00:15:32 +0100, Brian wrote:
 
  You have a very poorly /etc/apt/sources/list. Please post its contents.
 /etc/apt/sources.list
 
 
  I did not see an update file int the
 
  ftp://carroll.aset.psu.edu/pub/linux/distributions/debian/dists/wheezy/.
 
  When I look at sources.list I get the configuration thing from synaptic 
  which includes the CD's from 7.6 and contains 
  http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy contrib non-free main
 
  The following is from sources.list.save
  Could you please *attach* (not copy-paste or similar) your
  /etc/apt/sources.list file and any other file you might have under
  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
 
  It's important you attach them since your mailer seems to be a little
  bit too helpful in formating your mails and it's important to for us to
  see the same files as apt sees them.
 
  Kind regards,
  Andrei
 I tried this earlier and apparently it didn't go through.  Here are the 
 attached files.  I have an empty sources.list.d directory but there is 
 nothing in it.  TY

Your sources.list is totaly messed up.

https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList

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