Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Si je comprends bien l'installation individuelle de paquets fonctionne ... Il est possible que lors de la mise à jour vers jessie apt soit resté en version wheezy. cf apt-cache policy apt Si c'est ça, essayes donc un apt-get install apt dpkg Sinon tu peux aussi essayer de commenter les dépôts de sources (lignes qui commencent par deb-src) dans /etc/apt/sources.list et /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* Ne pas oublier de faire ensuite le apt-get update En référence à ce que tu obtiens avec strace ... Guy Le 15/12/2014 02:13, Yann COHEN a écrit : Bonjour, Je ne suis pas sûr de le comprendre, cependant j'ai coupé l'exécution car la trace ne faisait qu'augmenter avec le même message d'erreur me semble-t-il. Yann. Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014 à 19:05 +0100, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Yann COHEN a écrit... Oups désolé pour le retard, mais le déjeuner du dimanche midi... voici les dernières lgnes de strace sur la commande ./strace apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade Il faudrait lancer strace avec l'option -f, et -o fichier_de_log, comme je l'ai indiqué dans mon premier courriel à ce sujet. C'est plus simple pour analyser ensuite fichier_de_log -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548ea0f4.6060...@teledetection.fr
Re: Crash de gftp
Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Michel a écrit... Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon michel@Ariane:~$ Quelqu’un a noté la même chose ou le problème est-il sur ma machine? J'ai déjà eu cette erreur, mais je ne sais pas pourquoi. Gftp, c'est une appli qui crashe souvent… J'ai tendance à utiliser lftp maintenant, mais ce n'est pas graphique. -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215095538.GA2820@espinasse
Re: Crash de gftp
Le 15/12/2014 11:00, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Michel a écrit... Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon michel@Ariane:~$ Quelqu’un a noté la même chose ou le problème est-il sur ma machine? J'ai déjà eu cette erreur, mais je ne sais pas pourquoi. Gftp, c'est une appli qui crashe souvent… J'ai tendance à utiliser lftp maintenant, mais ce n'est pas graphique. Merci pour ce retour. Michel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548eb7d6$0$2122$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Crash de gftp
Le lundi 15 décembre 2014, 10:55:38 Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Michel a écrit... Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon michel@Ariane:~$ Quelqu’un a noté la même chose ou le problème est-il sur ma machine? J'ai déjà eu cette erreur, mais je ne sais pas pourquoi. Gftp, c'est une appli qui crashe souvent… J'ai tendance à utiliser lftp maintenant, mais ce n'est pas graphique. Une question Filezilla qui est graphique ne remplirait pas les mêmes fonctions que gftp.? Philippe Merlin -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1724393.TfylrvWPag@portable
Re: enlever un message
Le Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:00:01 +0100, Sylvain L. Sauvage a écrit : il faut que je regarde les options de bash. Il ne me semble pas qu’il en existe. En revanche, « Complété » n’est affiché que si le shell est interactif… oui le shell est interactif. Note : tu sais que les parenthèses autour de 'commande' sont inutiles ? plus précisément c'est (while 1 ; do commande ; commande;done) je pense que cela ne le fait pas sans les parenthèses. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548eebaf$0$1987$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: enlever un message
Le lundi 15 décembre 2014, 14:09:51 moi-meme a écrit : […] plus précisément c'est (while 1 ; do commande ; commande;done) 'while true' plutôt, non ? ;o) je pense que cela ne le fait pas sans les parenthèses. Si, parce que 'while… done' est une seule commande. Bon, Bash est assez intelligent pour savoir qu’il n’a pas besoin de lancer deux sous-shells imbriqués (pour les parenthèses et pour la tâche de fond ()), donc ça ne change rien au final. Peut-être peux-tu éviter le kill (et donc le message) en utilisant un test plus complexe que true. P.ex. l’existence d’un fichier : touch ~/run/toto while test -e ~/run/toto; do …; done et rm ~/run/toto Bon, ça veut dire que tu ne peux plus tuer 'commande' en cours d’exécution, il faut attendre que le test soit refait pour que la boucle s’arrête. Ça peut être un avantage ('commande' termine proprement) ou un inconvénient ('commande' est longue et tu veux l’arrêter). -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1875623.3BHRQ3OM9N@earendil
Re: impossible de mettre à jour adobe flash
Bonjour, Chez moi, sur une Debian Wheezy 64bits up to date, je n'ai pas eu de soucis. Et une fois la mise à jour effectuée (via la commande update-flashplugin-nonfree --install en root), j'ai retrouvé l'usage de flash, notamment sur le site Youtube. Alain JUPIN Le 12/12/2014 19:31, yamo' a écrit : Bonsoir, Je n'arrive pas à mettre à jour flash. # update-flashplugin-nonfree --install link to Adobe Flash Player not found on http://www.adobe.com/ at get-upstream-version.pl line 57. ERROR: failed to get upstream version More information might be available at: http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer Sur Seamonkey, avec about:plugins Fichier : libflashplayer.so Chemin : /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so Version : 11.2.202.406 État : Activé (STATE_VULNERABLE_UPDATE_AVAILABLE) Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548ef7cc.6050...@jupin.net
Re: Crash de gftp
Le 15/12/2014 13:20, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Le lundi 15 décembre 2014, 10:55:38 Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Michel a écrit... Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon michel@Ariane:~$ Quelqu’un a noté la même chose ou le problème est-il sur ma machine? J'ai déjà eu cette erreur, mais je ne sais pas pourquoi. Gftp, c'est une appli qui crashe souvent… J'ai tendance à utiliser lftp maintenant, mais ce n'est pas graphique. Une question Filezilla qui est graphique ne remplirait pas les mêmes fonctions que gftp.? Philippe Merlin Oui, merci de ta réponse, je l’utilise aussi parfois... Michel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f0df1$0$2903$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Le lundi 15 décembre 2014 à 09:51 +0100, Guy Roussin a écrit : Si je comprends bien l'installation individuelle de paquets fonctionne ... Il est possible que lors de la mise à jour vers jessie apt soit resté en version wheezy. cf apt-cache policy apt Cette machine a été initialement installée sous jessie. apt-cache policy apt, reste suspendu dans le vide par contre à chaque fois que apt est lancé un fichier de type pkgcache.bin.3FafMP est créé dans /var/cache/apt. Si c'est ça, essayes donc un apt-get install apt dpkg Sinon tu peux aussi essayer de commenter les dépôts de sources (lignes qui commencent par deb-src) dans /etc/apt/sources.list et /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* Ne pas oublier de faire ensuite le apt-get update J'essaie et je constate que : les téléchargements sont très, très long avec un débit annoncé très faible : 467 ko réceptionnés en 5min 30s (1 411 o/s); au bout des téléchargements on reste bloqué sur la Lecture des listes de paquets... En référence à ce que tu obtiens avec strace ... Là c'est le flou pour moi strace. sans l'option -f, les dernières traces montrent une ouverture de /var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.fr.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_main_binary-i386_Packages sur le descripteur 6 puis une tentative de lecture sur le même descripteur fstat64(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=34017228, ...}) = 0 fstat64(6, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=34017228, ...}) = 0 read(6, tion: chase action game - game d..., 32579) = 32579 puis plus rien. Avec l'option -f, le fichier se remplit très vite d'erreur. 819 fcntl64(14, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = -1 EBADF (Bad file descriptor) 819 getrlimit(RLIMIT_NOFILE, {rlim_cur=64*1024, rlim_max=64*1024}) = 0 Guy Yann. Le 15/12/2014 02:13, Yann COHEN a écrit : Bonjour, Je ne suis pas sûr de le comprendre, cependant j'ai coupé l'exécution car la trace ne faisait qu'augmenter avec le même message d'erreur me semble-t-il. Yann. Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014 à 19:05 +0100, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : Bonjour, Le dimanche 14 décembre 2014, Yann COHEN a écrit... Oups désolé pour le retard, mais le déjeuner du dimanche midi... voici les dernières lgnes de strace sur la commande ./strace apt-get -o debug::pkgproblemresolver=true dist-upgrade Il faudrait lancer strace avec l'option -f, et -o fichier_de_log, comme je l'ai indiqué dans mon premier courriel à ce sujet. C'est plus simple pour analyser ensuite fichier_de_log -- jm -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1418667605.4106.12.ca...@ianco.org
Re: at-get bloqué sur Lecture des listes de paquets... 0%
Cette machine a été initialement installée sous jessie. Désolé, j'avais pas tout compris ... apt-cache policy apt, reste suspendu dans le vide et 'strace apt-cache policy apt' qu'est-ce qu'il donne ? Si c'est ça, essayes donc un apt-get install apt dpkg Sinon tu peux aussi essayer de commenter les dépôts de sources (lignes qui commencent par deb-src) dans /etc/apt/sources.list et /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* Ne pas oublier de faire ensuite le apt-get update J'essaie et je constate que : les téléchargements sont très, très long avec un débit annoncé très faible : 467 ko réceptionnés en 5min 30s (1 411 o/s); C'est jamais très rapide mais on peut espérer entre 50 et 100ko/s au minimum Peut avoir le résultat de la commande 'mount' et 'df -h' Lorsque tu tapes 'dmesg' y a t-il des erreurs ? On dirait un problème sur le système de fichier ... -- Guy -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f6514.7010...@teledetection.fr
Re: Crash de gftp
Le Sun, 14 Dec 2014 16:19:01 +0100 Michel c...@free.fr a écrit: Bonjour, Sur une wheezy amd64, il y a déjà quelques mois déjà que gftp plante des que l'on se connecte à un serveur. Je me suis dit que ça s'arrangerait à la prochaine mise à jour, et j'ai utilisé mc à la place. Les messages qu'il donne ( si on le lance depuis une console ) sont: michel@Ariane:~$ gftp Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 103: Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as expected Fontconfig warning: /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fonts.conf, line 138: Having multiple values in test isn't supported and may not work as expected Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked Abandon michel@Ariane:~$ Il n'y a rien de choquant pourtant dans le fichier 65-droid-sans-fonts.conf. Quelqu’un a noté la même chose ou le problème est-il sur ma machine? Cordialement Michel Normalement c'est corrigé. Voir bugs: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=763314 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=763371 A+ Gaëtan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141216000950.c3b9f00062d159f822c2c...@neuf.fr
Zimowisko Linuksowe 2015 - CFP.
W dniu 12.12.2014 o 10:46, Grzegorz Borowiak pisze: Nadeszła długo oczekiwana chwila - wiemy już, kiedy będzie Zimowisko Linuksowe 2015. Będzie 6-8 marca 2015. W związku z tym otwieramy Call For Papers. Metoda jest inna niż ostatnio. Korzystamy z formularza Google pod następującym adresem: http://goo.gl/forms/bPzcCkYwtQ Zapraszamy wszystkich wykładowców i prowadzących warsztaty do zgłaszania abstraktów. Witam. Ok zeby nie odwlekac przekazuje wiadomosc dalej. Termin od 6 do 8 marca i link do call for papers w cytacie powyzej. Dodam jescze link do witryny zimowiska, ktora niedlugo bedzie zaktualizowana t.j. pod http://zimowisko.linux.gda.pl Miejsce. Powiatowe Centrum Kształcenia Ustawicznego w Pucku. Kolejne wiadomosci beda pozniej. Open Source jest dziś największym i najważniejszym nurtem w sektorze IT - albo dasz się ponieść na fali, albo utoniesz próbując płynąć pod prąd... -- Zycze Zdrowych i Wesolych Swiat oraz Szczesliwego Nowego Roku. Registered Linux User: 253243 Powered by Aurox 11.0, Ubuntu Studio 8.04 i Fedora 9.0 Krzysztof Zubik. | kzu...@netglob.com.pl | krzysztof.zu...@gmail.com http://www.kzubik.gda.pl http://wpolsce.it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f5ae0.7010...@netglob.com.pl
Re: dmraid nosync
Enviar: miércoles 3 de diciembre de 2014 a las 16:30 De: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: dmraid nosync El Wed, 03 Dec 2014 11:06:31 +0100, Francesc Guitart Riera escribió: Hola lista, Tengo un servidor con debian 6 donde hay un raid 1 con dmraid. Ugh :-( Me dicen que cuando arranca saltan mensajes de error de la controladora RAID ¿Y esos mensajes cuáles son, exactamente? pero una vez está funcionando con dmraid veo información contradictoria, dmraid -r me dice que /dev/sda esta nosync. en cambio dmraid -s me dice que el estado está ok: hostname:~# dmraid -r /dev/sdb: ddf1, .ddf1_disks, GROUP, ok, 623046656 sectors, data@ 0 /dev/sda: ddf1, .ddf1_disks, GROUP, nosync, 623046656 sectors, data@ 0 hostname:~# dmraid -s *** Group superset .ddf1_disks -- Active Subset name : ddf1_4c53492020202020808627c3471147111450 size : 623046656 stride : 128 type : mirror status : ok subsets: 0 devs : 2 spares : 0 ¿Alguna idea de como interpretar esto? A simple vista a mí me da a entender que el disco físico (/dev/sda) puede tener algún problema pero la matriz (dm0) está bien, lo cual ciertamente es contradictorio. No sé si dmraid dispone de alguna herramienta/opción que te permita verificar el estado de los discos duros. Finalmente pude comprobar con un test SMART que el disco sda tenía problemas. Tenemos previsto cambiar el disco y resincronizarlo desde el setup de la controladora. Gracias Saludos, -- Camaleón -- Francesc Guitart -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/trinity-5512452f-a8cd-4229-8071-a6b5bb029b23-1418641988893@3capp-mailcom-bs16
Re: OT Repositorio de documentos.
El 14 de diciembre de 2014, 21:39, Aradenatorix Veckhom Vacelaevus arad...@gmail.com escribió: Hola de nuevo: Muchas gracias por sus sugerencias. Suena interesante lo de ZFS, no lo he usado aun, ¿podrías explicar como es que lo usas Gonzalo, ese equipo (servidor) que uso le dan? Por lo que comentas del SO pareciera que administras un NAS con eso. si, lo tenemos como san y nas (según se acceda a los discos por fibra óptica o smb/nfs/ssh). Napp-it (*solaris) o nas4free (freebsd) son nuestros frontend para no tener que hacer todo por comandos sobre las gracias que se puede hacer con zfs, wikipedia te da un resumen interesante https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZFS_%28sistema_de_archivos%29 Respecto a la sugerencia de la liga está interesante, no se ven mal pero son soluciones muy robustas que hacen un montón de cosas más allá de lo que necesito para empresas y hay que pagar. No los descarto pero en esta etapa no sé si convenga usar algo así. Nuxeo es de paga y la anualidad es algo alta para ir comenzando, Alfresco tiene una version Community que es gratuita pero no se puede descargar. Seguiré buscando opciones, gracias de nuevo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAPqjQdQvq42p3H=_U8QkktMv50mSK1Kh0ekXuC=O9km1kt8V=a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: servidor de correo electronico.
Hola :D El 13/12/14, Gonzalo Rivero fishfromsa...@gmail.com escribió: (...) http://dnsgoodies.com/ en el campo de openrelay check ponés la ip o el fqdn de tu server y si alguna prueba falla, pues a seguir configurando Muy buena utilidad, la he colocado en mi lista de marcadores. De momento todo parece en orden. (...) con cinco usuarios y un solo dominio no te compliques la existencia. Sobra usar los usuarios del sistema Esa es la idea :) El 13/12/14, Yoslan Raul Jimenez Carvajal yr...@ucp.ss.rimed.cu escribió: puedes probar iredmail No voy a aprobechar ni la mitad de sus carecteristicas, y me tocara mantener muchos mas servicios de los deseados. como ejemplo tendre que buscar un sql de emergencia por si acaso ;) El 13/12/14, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...). Postfix viene configurado de manera predeterminada para no funcionar como open relay pero puedes usar algún sistema de verificación para comprobar cómo responde desde fuera, así te quedas más tranquilo: http://mxtoolbox.com/diagnostic.aspx Gracias ademas he comprobado que esta mejor configurado de lo que me esperaba. solo hay tres warning en los dns. Primero tendrás que elegir el servidor pop3/imap que quieres usar. Yo te recomendaría Dovecot, tiene buena documentación para el sistema que buscas (usuarios locales) y es lo suficientemente flexible y potente para ampliarlo/moldearlo como prefieras. Además, me parece que se lleva muy bien con Postfix. http://wiki2.dovecot.org/ http://wiki2.dovecot.org/QuickConfiguration https://www.linode.com/docs/email/postfix/postfix-dovecot-and-system-user- accounts-on-debian-6-squeeze A tener en cuenta: no existe una guía única de configuración porque existen múltiples opciones y caminos a tomar, es decir, puedes configurar el sistema de correo para que postfix lleve la carga de casi todo o puedes dejar que sea dovecot quien lo gestione y tener a postfix como simple mensajero. Lo que yo suelo hacer es dejar que posfix se encargue de los suyo (smtp/lda) y el servidor pop3/imap4 lleve la carga de los buzones en su propio directorio. Gracias, no buscaba una receta maestra mas bien algún consejo. Como siempre diste en la diana ;) Je, creo que todavía tengo el esquema, pero me costó mucho tiempo dejarlo como quería porque Cyrus-imap no es sencillo de entender y en su momento había muy poca documentación pero una vez que has establecido el plan de ataque y comprendes cómo funciona el flujo de los mensajes que has decidido para tu sistema, la cosa va sobre ruedas. Vamos a ver si consigo algo parecido a tu proyecto. De momento voy a empaparme de dovecot y os voy contando. Saludos :) -- El cielo es para los dragones lo que el agua es para las ninfas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ca+924htxbmbxcokti6xkwway6r+mn_ymyu_59tzhocku38h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: servidor de correo electronico.
On 12/12/14 21:04, Ala de Dragón wrote: Hola :-D Me gustaría desarrollar un proyecto de servidor de correo elec. y he andado curioseando por la lista y google. actualmente dispongo un fqn e ip fija en un vps. Me decidí a postfix como smtp, a utilizar un método de autentificar sasl2 contra usuarios de sistema (de 1 a 5 usuarios). Como agente Pop3/imap aun no me he decido. No es necesario acceso web al correo. Por el momento postfix y sasl2 funcionan y se integran con amavis-new/clamav/sapamassasin y firmas dkim para correos salientes. Mi resquemor es que al haber utilizado cientos de fuentes de información diferentes, haber pasado algo por alto y permitir/facilitar el envío de correos por parte de terceros no deseados. Si se les ocurre que puedo repasar lo agradeceré. Como ven, dentro de la complejidad inherente a configurar el servidor, el escenario es sencillo. simplemente me atasco cuando empiezan los manuales a hablar de tablas sql y usuarios virtuales. no es lo que busco He encontrado muchos manuales que acceden bases de datos sql etc... Busco un manual que se ajuste a la configuración que busco, sencilla, segura y eficaz... Me da envidia, sana, un servidor de correo que camaleon desarrollo y funciona desde hace 10 años. Muy interesante el planteamiento en papel que sugieres. Yo empecé hace tres semanas con menos orden y concierto. Bueno listeros, muchas gracias por su tiempo. Salu2s Mis consejos: SMTP: Postfix (Si te interesa activa el puerto de submission [587] para separar el correo de tus usuarios del correo entre servidores SMTP) POP/IMAP: Dovecot con buzones tipo maildir MDA: deliver, provisto por Dovecot en vez de procmail. Es más eficiente porque actualiza los índices de Dovecot en cuanto se entregan los correos y no cuando el usuario accede a sus correos. SASL: Dovecot (Cyrus puede andar bien, pero si ya configuraste Dovecot para POP/IMAP es más facil integrar SASL luego) Filtros antispam: Procura poner la mayor parte de los filtros antes de que Postfix encole el correo: Te pueden interesar: postgrey, policyd-weight, y algún filtro spf Luego puedes configurar el filtrado before queueing, o sea, después de que Postfix acepte el correo, el mejor a mi gusto es amavisd-new con spamassassin, chequeo de dkim y p0f No te compliques con tablas sql y demás si tu configuración no va a ser demasiado grande y no vas a usar dominios virtuales (un mismo servidor manejando usuarios de varios dominios). En postfix vas a tener que usar algunas tablas que las puedes mantener fácilmente en archivos tipo hash que los actualizas con el comando postmap y listo, no necesitas configurar servicios especiales, autenticación ni nada por el estilo. Saludos Federico -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548edb98.2050...@uncu.edu.ar
Re: [OT] Re: pin off bluetooth
El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:59:03 +, franiortiz hotmail escribió: Gracias por responder, Siento el html, hotmail me dice que es texto enriquecido,voy a probar sin formato, a ver que tal. Pues no... este ha salido con formato html también. Te mando este enlace por si te sirve: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Windows_Live_Hotmail 1/ Correcto hay un sudo, pero no existe usuario root, no se si eso influye pues yo lanzo los comandos ussp y demas como simple usuario, en el debian-686 y funcionan sin pin, ni emparejamiento. Desconozco si puede influir o no, pero seguramente podrás desactivar sudo y usar el usuario root. Lo que no me queda claro si ejecutas los comandos con sudo o desde tu propio usuario. Si es lo segundo, prueba con sudo. 2/ Eso tenia entendido yo tambien y mayor fue mi sorpresa cuando debian-686 en mi pc me dejaba enviar y recibir sin pin ni emparejamientos y no solo a mi movil el cual nunca empareje, por si aca he probado con moviles desconocidos y no pide emparejamiento ninguno, pero al intentar replicarlo en debian-arm (raspbian), me ha dado la sorpresa de que pide pin, lo peor es que me he empeñado en comprender este comportamiento, que ya lleva tiempo en mi cabeza. Si estás completamente seguro de que el móvil que intentas emparejar no tiene definido ningún PIN, puedes intentar dos cosas: 1/ Si te pide PIN, pulsa enter/intro. 2/ Intenta pasar el parámetro trust MAC [dirección_mac_móvil] al comando bluetoothctl para emparejarte. 3/ Yo probaría ... Ese es el tema, probablemente con bluetooth-agent conseguiria un pin y emparejarlos pero ya no quiero eso, quiero comprender como hace mi debian686 para no pedirlo, funcionar sin necesitarlo y replicar ese comportamiento en la raspibian. Antes de nada, es importante saber que los dos dispositivos se pueden emparejar, no vaya a ser que el problema sea otro y te estés volviendo loco con el PIN. Una vez que compruebes que funciona correctamente puedes sacar un listado de los paquetes que tienes en cada equipo (dpkg -l) y compararlos para ver qué diferencias hay, eliminar el emparejamiento (supongo que con eliminar el dispositivo detectado -el equipo con raspbian- desde el móvil será suficiente) y seguir haciendo pruebas :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.15.14.46...@gmail.com
[OT] Re: Calculos de hardware para servidor con smpt (postfix+MySQL) y servidor SAMBA
El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:01:21 -0300, Leonardo Dulivo escribió: *Hola comunidad:* Soy estudiante de redes de datos y telecomunicaciones, en uno de los desarrollos, tengo que hacer la documentación del mismo. Huy, deberes a la vista... (...) *Problema 2: Justificar* *2.a) *Tengo que hacer el calculo necesario de hardware(*) para cada uno de los servidores tanto como el de correo (más MySQL) y el de archivos (SAMBA) por separados, ya que luego se ocupará un servidor el cual virtualizara ambos servidores (correo y archivos). (*) Calculo de memoria RAM y de procesador por usuarios. Pues mejor que consultes la documentación oficial de cada servicio pero aportas pocos datos para esa tarea porque los requerimientos de hardware pueden variar en base a factores como nº de mensajes, tamaño de adjuntos/ archivos, es decir, no vas a tener la misma carga de trabajo con 25 usuarios enviando al mismo tiempo un mensaje de texto a 5 KiB que a 2 usuarios adjuntando un powerpoint de 20 MiB. *2.b)* Citar la fuente de donde extraje la información sobre el calculo del hardware. En este caso, sito la lista de correo. (...) Si fuera profesor/tutor y viera como fuente documental una lista de correo te ponía un cero patatero sin pestañear. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.15.15.22...@gmail.com
Re: cgroup y lxc
El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 20:34:38 +0100, José Miguel (sio2) escribió: He estado este fin de semana curioseando lxc sobre jessie; y he llegado al problema de los contenedores de usuario (los unprivileged containers, vamos). (...) Si la regla en cgrules.conf hago que sea: @lxc* lxc/%u La cosa funciona, pero yo lo único que quiero en cgroup aparte son las máquinas lxc, no el resto de procesos que pueda crear el usuario. ¿A alguien alcanza a saber qué pasa? Pues la verdad es que no :-P pero si no he entendido mal la problemática, te digo lo que probaría... 1/ Usuarios en lugar de grupos: perico:lxc-start * lxc/%u pantuflo:lxc-start * lxc/%u 2/ UID en lugar de nombres: @lxc:lxc-start * lxc/%U 3/ No sé si será posible pero sería interesante aumentar la verbosidad del registro para ver por qué no puede crear el contenedor (¿permisos?). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2014.12.15.16.06...@gmail.com
RE: [OT] Re: pin off bluetooth
-Mensaje original- De: Camaleón [mailto:noela...@gmail.com] Enviado el: lunes, 15 de diciembre de 2014 15:46 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: [OT] Re: pin off bluetooth El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 18:59:03 +, franiortiz hotmail escribió: Gracias por responder, Siento el html, hotmail me dice que es texto enriquecido,voy a probar sin formato, a ver que tal. Pues no... este ha salido con formato html también. Te mando este enlace por si te sirve: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Windows_Live_Hotmail 1/ Correcto hay un sudo, pero no existe usuario root, no se si eso influye pues yo lanzo los comandos ussp y demas como simple usuario, en el debian-686 y funcionan sin pin, ni emparejamiento. Desconozco si puede influir o no, pero seguramente podrás desactivar sudo y usar el usuario root. Lo que no me queda claro si ejecutas los comandos con sudo o desde tu propio usuario. Si es lo segundo, prueba con sudo. 2/ Eso tenia entendido yo tambien y mayor fue mi sorpresa cuando debian-686 en mi pc me dejaba enviar y recibir sin pin ni emparejamientos y no solo a mi movil el cual nunca empareje, por si aca he probado con moviles desconocidos y no pide emparejamiento ninguno, pero al intentar replicarlo en debian-arm (raspbian), me ha dado la sorpresa de que pide pin, lo peor es que me he empeñado en comprender este comportamiento, que ya lleva tiempo en mi cabeza. Si estás completamente seguro de que el móvil que intentas emparejar no tiene definido ningún PIN, puedes intentar dos cosas: 1/ Si te pide PIN, pulsa enter/intro. 2/ Intenta pasar el parámetro trust MAC [dirección_mac_móvil] al comando bluetoothctl para emparejarte. 3/ Yo probaría ... Ese es el tema, probablemente con bluetooth-agent conseguiria un pin y emparejarlos pero ya no quiero eso, quiero comprender como hace mi debian686 para no pedirlo, funcionar sin necesitarlo y replicar ese comportamiento en la raspibian. Antes de nada, es importante saber que los dos dispositivos se pueden emparejar, no vaya a ser que el problema sea otro y te estés volviendo loco con el PIN. Una vez que compruebes que funciona correctamente puedes sacar un listado de los paquetes que tienes en cada equipo (dpkg -l) y compararlos para ver qué diferencias hay, eliminar el emparejamiento (supongo que con eliminar el dispositivo detectado -el equipo con raspbian- desde el móvil será suficiente) y seguir haciendo pruebas :-) Solo es a título informativo. El usuario root sí existe en Raspbian, solo que viene deshabilitado por motivos de seguridad y hay que habilitarlo si se quiere usar. Saludos, Ramsés -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/!!AAAYAENFkb7HiHhNgxBWRjH4GnNiOgIAEHYxxCkZh4BHgHPIFpHuX+oBAA==@gmail.com
Re: cgroup y lxc
El Mon, 15 de Dec de 2014, a las 04:06:45PM +, Camaleón dijo: Pues la verdad es que no :-P pero si no he entendido mal la problemática, te digo lo que probaría... 1/ Usuarios en lugar de grupos: perico:lxc-start * lxc/%u pantuflo:lxc-start * lxc/%u 2/ UID en lugar de nombres: @lxc:lxc-start * lxc/%U En realidad no parece que en ello esté el problema: de hecho, mientras uso sleep todo va bien. Es al usar lxc-start cuando se descuajeringa todo. No parece fallar cuando el criterio es simplemente @lxc * lxc/%u O sea, cualquier proceso que arranque un usuario que pertenezca a lxc, sea el que sea. Pero no he sido exhaustivo en las pruebas. 3/ No sé si será posible pero sería interesante aumentar la verbosidad del registro para ver por qué no puede crear el contenedor (¿permisos?). No, no tiene nada que ver con permisos. Tiene que ver con que cgrulesengd deja de hacer su trabajo. Después de enviar el mensaje, arranqué el demonio cgrulesengd en primer plano y con el máximo de verborrea: # cgrulesengd -d Se puede ir viendo cómo el demonio analiza los procesos que ejecuto y comprueba si concuerdan o no con alguna regla de las escritas en /etc/cgrules.conf. Todo marcha bien, hasta que ejecuto lxc-start: ese proceso también sufre supervisión y aparentemente sin problemas, pero a partir de ese momento, el demonio se queda tonto: arranque lo que arranque después, no analiza nada. La consecuencia es que los procesos acaban en el cgroup que está el bash en que se ejecutan, o sea, el cgroup raíz. Tiene pinta de ser un bug. Acabo de hacer una consulta en la lista de usuarios de lxc. Como participan los desarrolladores, quizás me puedan arrojar luz sobre el asunto. A ver qué saco en claro. Como sea bug, mi gozo en un pozo, porque jessie ya está congelada. Es una pena, porque lo tengo todo preparado: cambié la creación del cgroup de usuario, y en vez de hacerla en /etc/profile la hago a través de un script que se ejecuta con pam_exec: al identificarse el usuario, se crea si no existe, y al abandonar la sesión se destruye, si no tiene ninguna otra sesión abierta. Mi idea es montar todo esto en un servidor que a través de ssh (con ForceCommand y un script adecuado) permita a los alumnos entrar exclusivamente en contenedores linux: como cada uno tiene un cgroup independiente puedo limitar la memoria que me consuman con sus linuces virtuales; y, como todos los contenedores están contenidos dentro de lxc, la memoria total que consumen entre todos. Con los ciclos de cpu puedo hacer otro tanto. Y para limitar el disco, ya me apaño con los subvolumenes de btrfs. Lo que no he investigado es si se puede limitar el ancho de banda. Quizás haya alguna forma con tc. Saludos, Saludos y gracias. -- Patrimonio es un conjunto de bienes, matrimonio es un conjunto de males. --- Enrique Jardiel Poncela -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215181324.gb2...@cubo.casa
Re: Fwd: fglrx-driver
El 14/12/2014 17:20, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: Hola a todos, También tengo el mismo problema, pantalla en negro con una R7 250X, el cual es un modelo equivalente a las Radeon HD 7770/8760. He encontrado este bug, con los mismos síntomas que los tuyos (error con aiglx y pantalla en negro), echa un vistazo aunque no parece que esté solucionado: fglrx-driver: Black screen after xorg startup https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765109 Por lo que comentan y la salida que les devuelve, parece el mismo error que me aparece y lo único extraño que he visto es que los errores que se muestran en los que no parecen encontrar el archivo fglrx_dri.so, aparece en otras ubicaciones, esto es: /usr/lib/dri y en /usr/lib/x86_64-linux_gnu/dri Una persona de ese mismo hilo dice haber creado enlaces a los archivos sin conseguir que funciones y me pregunto si no será necesario añadir alguno más. Si el driver cerrado no funciona puedes intentar cargar mientras tanto el radeon, digo, para poder ver algo al menos. Lamentablemente el driver radeon no funciona con esta tarjeta gráfica, al menos la versión que lleva Jessie. Desde que tengo esta gráfica he tenido que utilizar de manera forzosa el driver propietario y comenzé en Wheezy backports e instalando el driver desde testing. Lástima no haber visto este hilo antes o el problema que has mencionado, porque ahora tengo el equipo sin poder usarlo tras la actualización a Jessie. Alguna idea para poder ir trabajando, a parte de redireccionar las X por ssh para arrancar los progranas que voy necesitando? Gracias y un saludo a todos. Javier
Re: ¿gdebi y shotwell autodesinstalables?
El 14/12/14 a las 17:03, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 14 Dec 2014 13:15:22 +0100, Eduardo Rios escribió: Pues eso me dice synaptic desde las ultimas actualizaciones realizadas a Jessie. Acostumbraros a incluir los mensajes que os devuelven las aplicaciones, es importante saber de qué se queja o qué quiere hacer exactamente aptitude. Bueno, a aptitude no le ocurre nada, pero veo que te has dado cuenta más abajo ;) Hum... espera ¿has dicho Synaptic? ¿Quieres decir que cuando ejecutas Synaptic te aparece algún mensaje? :-? Vale, a ver si me explico mejor, perdón. Cuando abro synaptic, a la parte izquierda, mostrando los paquetes por Estado, me aparecen clasificados los paquetes así: -Todo - Instalado - Instalado (autodesinstalable) - Instalado (local u obsoleto) - Instalado (manual) - No instalado Pues me extraña eso, que aparezcan como autodesinstalables gdebi y shotwell Normalmente, cuando me ha pasado con librerías, las he desinstalado sin más, sin problemas aparentes... Sin embargo, con estos no me atrevo... No sé si es que gnome va a sustituir estos programas o que, pero me parece extraño que estén marcados como autodesinstalables... ¿Que hago? ¿Desinstalo, o ignoro el mensaje de autodesinstalable? Bueno, yo lo ignoraría de momento porque no sé qué quiere decir exactamente con audodesinstalable (traducción horrible, por cierto). Pasa olímpicamente de Synaptic y ejecuta mejor apt-get -f install a ver si éste se queja de algo y de qué, exactamente. Pongo enlace a una imagen. Siempre han dicho que una imagen vale más que mil palabras ;) http://picpaste.com/Synaptic-RIaXfmfT.png Gracias. -- www.LinuxCounter.net Registered user #558467 has 2 linux machines -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/m6n9k8$6k6$1...@ger.gmane.org
Compilar U-boot(Bootloader) para ARMv5
Hola No se si sera aqui el sitio idoneo, pero dado que quiero compilarlo en un pc de 32 bits supongo qu ira aqui. El caso es que quiero compilar el bootloader U-Boot para el chipset Conexant CX 94610-11Z Supongo que necesito el Toolchain Linaro, hasta instalarlo se, lo que me falta son los comandos necesarios para compilarlo. U-boot es compatible con ese chipset. Uso Debian Wheezy con xfce 32 bits por si es de ayuda El uboot que quiero compilar es de linaro: https://git.linaro.org/?p=boot/u-boot-linaro-stable.git;a=summary Saludos
Curso sobre Outlook 2007
http://www.aulaclic.es/outlook2007/t_5_2.htm
RE: Curso sobre Outlook 2007
Que Tonteras envias. WRC Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:53:20 -0430 Subject: Curso sobre Outlook 2007 From: delacruzy...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org http://www.aulaclic.es/outlook2007/t_5_2.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bay177-w23b1bda22df62051068a1b6...@phx.gbl
Re: Fwd: devuan
Buenas personal, Quiero decir que lo único que ha acontecido en base a todo este revuelo del systemd es que debian ha decidido hacer que systemd sea predeterminado en una instalación estándar. Si bien, debian no obliga a nadie a usar systemd y siempre puedes instalar el sistema con el viejo sysvinit, con upstart, o con openRC como sistema de init. Entonces debian nos está dando una opción más con systemd, que es predeterminada, ok, al igual que es predeterminado el escritorio gnome y nadie está obligado a usarlo! Debian nos está dando para elegir 4 tipos de sistemas de init! no os ceguéis por lo predeterminado! Lo único que depende de systemd son ciertos entornos de escritorio, y eso depende de sus desarrolladores, no es culpa de debian ni de systemd. Abrazos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2200541.QLzf1eXfge@link
Re: Curso sobre Outlook 2007
2014-12-15 17:26 GMT-06:00 William Romero: Que Tonteras envías. Pues no tanto más bien a dónde lo envía. WRC Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:53:20 -0430 Subject: Curso sobre Outlook 2007 From: To: http://www.aulaclic.es/outlook2007/t_5_2.htm ¿Y por que de Outlook y no de Thunderbird? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/caacnk7zjhwvnjr93fpbqkyyydxxzcyf3wok3umhpe_-qavb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Squid https
Rodrigo, É possível fazer sim. Consegui utilizando o 5º comentário do sanderethx http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/perfil/verPerfil.php?login=sanderethx com algumas modificações. Link http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Squid-in-the-middle-Bloqueando-sites-HTTPS-no-Squid Até! Sérgio Abrantes Em 5 de dezembro de 2014 13:21, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: Obrigado, vou pesquisar as soluções. :) Em 5 de dezembro de 2014 13:19, mario sergio kirdeika junior kirdeik...@gmail.com escreveu: sim seus clientes sao linux ou windows? procura por wpad, pode ate ser feito no dhcp fica muito prático. Ou usa política do AD... mas isso nao domino. Em 05/12/2014 13:05, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: Agora faz mais sentido! Conhece alguma forma de automatizar a configuração dos navegadores do meu cliente. Em 5 de dezembro de 2014 12:24, mario sergio kirdeika junior kirdeik...@gmail.com escreveu: boa tarde fiz umas pesquisas equivalentes para implantar em nossa empresa, o que descobri é que com https não dá para fazer proxy transparente. tem que haver conexão do browser com o proxy e do proxy com o site de destino. a diferença está no allow.. http é allow access e https é allow CONNECT. daí vc cria suas regras. acessamos todos os bancos e diversos outros sites https Não precisou compilar nada Em 05/12/2014 01:05, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: No meu caso eu vou redirecionar as conexões da para a porta 80 e 443 para o squid tratar. O termo que usam é proxy transparente, mas na verdade consegui um artigo bom hoje, só não tive tempo de testa-lo por completo. Consegui compilar utilizando o meu openssl instalado no S/O. No entanto, a minha reclamação quanto o squid ainda continua, vi que a entrada http_port porta transparent mudou para http_port porta intercept, isso na versão 3.x. Acho isso ruim, uma simples troca de string em uma versão identica do software. Vou testar esta semana e posto os resultados. Em 4 de dezembro de 2014 22:52, henrique jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Olá. Quando voce fala de bloquear websites pelo protocolo https, voce está tentando fazer o que exatamente? redirecionar todo o trafego ssl para uma porta X do seu proxy com iptables, ou fazer um controle do que os seus usuários estão acessando, comunidades do facebook por ex? Teria um destes artigos para postar para analisarmos? Sobre compilar o squid, aqui no wheezy acabei de compilar e instalar e deu tudo certo. Qual o seu problema exatamente? Abraços Julio De: Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com Para: Debian-User debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 4 de Dezembro de 2014 19:47 Assunto: Squid https Alguém sabe se da para habilitar a função de bloqueio a websites pelo protocolo https? Meu squid é do rep. padrão do debian e em todos os artigos que encontro o squid as pessoas compilam o squid para habilitar esta função. O pior é que quase que todos os artigos que leio, existem ou mudanças ou problemas nos steps. Tenho duas perguntas, alguém sabe se dá para implementar o squid para bloqueio de acesso a websites https como proxy transparente. Teria como eu instalar o squid com esta opção, sem precisar compila-lo ou um artigo sem falhas que mostre as etapas para compilar o squid3. Não entendo o motivo do squid não ter está função habilitada por padrão, será que tem algum tipo de restrição de segurança quando um proxy intercepta um website https? -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
Re: Squid https
Obrigado pelo comentario. É um projeto do meu laboratorio, quando eu folgar aqui vou fazer e te falo :), obrigado pelo comentario. Em 15 de dezembro de 2014 11:09, Sérgio Abrantes Junior sergioabran...@gmail.com escreveu: Rodrigo, É possível fazer sim. Consegui utilizando o 5º comentário do sanderethx http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/perfil/verPerfil.php?login=sanderethx com algumas modificações. Link http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/dica/Squid-in-the-middle-Bloqueando-sites-HTTPS-no-Squid Até! Sérgio Abrantes Em 5 de dezembro de 2014 13:21, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: Obrigado, vou pesquisar as soluções. :) Em 5 de dezembro de 2014 13:19, mario sergio kirdeika junior kirdeik...@gmail.com escreveu: sim seus clientes sao linux ou windows? procura por wpad, pode ate ser feito no dhcp fica muito prático. Ou usa política do AD... mas isso nao domino. Em 05/12/2014 13:05, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: Agora faz mais sentido! Conhece alguma forma de automatizar a configuração dos navegadores do meu cliente. Em 5 de dezembro de 2014 12:24, mario sergio kirdeika junior kirdeik...@gmail.com escreveu: boa tarde fiz umas pesquisas equivalentes para implantar em nossa empresa, o que descobri é que com https não dá para fazer proxy transparente. tem que haver conexão do browser com o proxy e do proxy com o site de destino. a diferença está no allow.. http é allow access e https é allow CONNECT. daí vc cria suas regras. acessamos todos os bancos e diversos outros sites https Não precisou compilar nada Em 05/12/2014 01:05, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu: No meu caso eu vou redirecionar as conexões da para a porta 80 e 443 para o squid tratar. O termo que usam é proxy transparente, mas na verdade consegui um artigo bom hoje, só não tive tempo de testa-lo por completo. Consegui compilar utilizando o meu openssl instalado no S/O. No entanto, a minha reclamação quanto o squid ainda continua, vi que a entrada http_port porta transparent mudou para http_port porta intercept, isso na versão 3.x. Acho isso ruim, uma simples troca de string em uma versão identica do software. Vou testar esta semana e posto os resultados. Em 4 de dezembro de 2014 22:52, henrique jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Olá. Quando voce fala de bloquear websites pelo protocolo https, voce está tentando fazer o que exatamente? redirecionar todo o trafego ssl para uma porta X do seu proxy com iptables, ou fazer um controle do que os seus usuários estão acessando, comunidades do facebook por ex? Teria um destes artigos para postar para analisarmos? Sobre compilar o squid, aqui no wheezy acabei de compilar e instalar e deu tudo certo. Qual o seu problema exatamente? Abraços Julio De: Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com Para: Debian-User debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 4 de Dezembro de 2014 19:47 Assunto: Squid https Alguém sabe se da para habilitar a função de bloqueio a websites pelo protocolo https? Meu squid é do rep. padrão do debian e em todos os artigos que encontro o squid as pessoas compilam o squid para habilitar esta função. O pior é que quase que todos os artigos que leio, existem ou mudanças ou problemas nos steps. Tenho duas perguntas, alguém sabe se dá para implementar o squid para bloqueio de acesso a websites https como proxy transparente. Teria como eu instalar o squid com esta opção, sem precisar compila-lo ou um artigo sem falhas que mostre as etapas para compilar o squid3. Não entendo o motivo do squid não ter está função habilitada por padrão, será que tem algum tipo de restrição de segurança quando um proxy intercepta um website https? -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha -- Atenciosamente, Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On 2014-12-14, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: In Europe we have 220 Volts between phase and neutre, and 380 Volts between two phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current). Paraguay is in Europe now? Cheers, Ron. -- Ordinary language is an accretion of lies. The language of literature must be, therefore, the language of transgression, a rupture of individual systems, a shattering of psychic oppression. The only function of literature lies in the uncovering of the self in history. (Susan Sontag) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnm8t5a3.237.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy
Hi, I've not had access to my machine for a while, and I've just tried to do an upgrade from squeeze to wheezy using the instructions found here; http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-debian-squeeze-to-wheezy and I got to the aptitude full-upgrade part which seemed to hang I've tried dpkg --configure -a apt-get -f install but can't get anything to work. Here's a list of the objections, but I don't know how to solve them, short of installing every package manually. If you've any ideas, I would be grateful to receive them, James Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: brasero : Depends: libbrasero-media3-1 (= 3.4.1-4) but it is not installed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0) but it is not installed Depends: libnautilus-extension1a (= 2.91) but it is not installed Depends: libtotem-plparser17 (= 2.32) but 2.30.3-1 is installed Depends: libtracker-sparql-0.14-0 (= 0.10.0) but it is not installed epiphany-browser : Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0) but it is not installed Depends: libseed-gtk3-0 but it is not installed Depends: libsoup-gnome2.4-1 (= 2.37.1) but 2.30.2-1+squeeze1 is installed Depends: libsoup2.4-1 (= 2.33.92) but 2.30.2-1+squeeze1 is installed Depends: libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 (= 1.7.92) but it is not installed Depends: gsettings-desktop-schemas but it is not installed epiphany-extensions : Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0) but it is not installed Depends: libwebkitgtk-3.0-0 (= 1.3.10) but it is not installed evince : Depends: libevdocument3-4 (= 3.4.0-3.1) but it is not installed Depends: libevview3-3 (= 3.4.0-3.1) but it is not installed Depends: libgail-3-0 (= 3.0.0) but it is not installed Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0) but it is not installed Depends: libnautilus-extension1a (= 2.91) but it is not installed Depends: evince-common (= 3.4) but 2.30.3-2+squeeze1 is installed file-roller : Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (= 2.22.0) but it is not installed Depends: libnautilus-extension1a (= 2.91) but it is not installed Depends: nautilus-data (= 3.0) but 2.30.1-2squeeze2 is installed gir1.2-atk-1.0 : Depends: gir1.2-glib-2.0 but it is not installed gir1.2-freedesktop : Depends: gir1.2-glib-2.0 (= 1.32.1-1) but it is not installed gir1.2-pango-1.0 : Depends: gir1.2-glib-2.0 but it is not installed gnome : Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.4+7+deb7u1) but 1:2.30+7 is installed Depends: network-manager-gnome (= 0.9.4) but it is not installed Depends: aisleriot (= 1:3.4) but it is not installed Depends: cheese (= 3.4) but 2.30.1-2 is installed Depends: evolution (= 3.4) but 2.30.3-5 is installed Depends: evolution-plugins (= 3.4) but 2.30.3-5 is installed Depends: gedit (= 3.4) but 2.30.4-1squeeze1 is installed Depends: gnome-color-manager (= 3.4) but it is not installed Depends: gnome-documents (= 0.4) but it is not installed Depends: gnome-games (= 1:3.4) but 1:2.30.2-2 is installed Depends: gnome-nettool (= 3.2) but 2.30.0-3 is installed Depends: rygel-preferences (= 0.14) but it is not installed Depends: seahorse (= 3.4) but 2.30.1-2 is installed Depends: alacarte (= 0.13.4) but 0.13.2-1 is installed Depends: gimp (= 2.8) but 2.6.10-1+squeeze4 is installed Depends: gnome-media (= 3.4) but 2.30.0-1 is installed Depends: gnome-tweak-tool (= 3.4) but it is not installed Depends: inkscape (= 0.48) but 0.47.0-2+b1 is installed Depends: libreoffice-gnome but it is not installed Depends: libreoffice-writer but it is not installed or abiword (= 2.8) but it is not installed Depends: libreoffice-calc but it is not installed or gnumeric (= 1.10) but it is not installed Depends: libreoffice-impress but it is not installed Depends: simple-scan but it is not installed Depends: tracker-gui but it is not installed Depends: cups-pk-helper (= 0.2) but it is not installed Depends: gedit-plugins (= 3.4) but 2.30.0-1 is installed Depends: gnome-shell-extensions (= 3.4) but it is not installed Depends: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg (= 0.10.13) but 0.10.10-1 is installed Depends: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly (= 0.10.19) but 0.10.15-1 is installed Depends: rygel-playbin but it is not installed Depends: rygel-tracker but it is not installed Depends: telepathy-rakia but it is not installed Recommends: browser-plugin-gnash but it is not installed Recommends: gnome-games-extra-data (= 3.0)
Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?
On Dec 13, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: 15 seconds extra, a couple times a year isn't all THAT bad. FWIW, I think I found out why ext4 fsck's faster than ext3 (or the other exts). Seems ext4 only checks the part of the filesystem that's been used/writtento/etc. instead of the entire filesystem/partition. Yes, that’s the secret sauce. There was a paper (in Usenix FAST, I think) about what’s new in ext4. My own experience is with ext4 filesystems of up to 6 TB. The application is radio station automation. A half hour show is about 600GB, so lots of very big files. Total time to do a full fsck is under two minutes. It can be nerve-wracking when the station is down because the server decided to reboot and do an fsck, but it’s *way* better than it used to be with ext3! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/d85313ea-3170-4afe-91f0-f605f8965...@pobox.com
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:01:07 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: In Europe we have 220 Volts between phase and neutre, and 380 Volts between two phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current). Paraguay is in Europe now? Never claimed it was, why ? Cheers, Ron. PS Paraguay is also 220/380 Volts. -- Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. -- Dick Brandon -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215062250.28187...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: music based applications in debian?
I use the free prog Bagpipe, by Philippe Corgier http://r.fifi.free.fr/BagPipe/english.htm but it is rather specialized, as it caters to the needs of the Scottish Highland Bagpipe player ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. -- Dick Brandon -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215062622.22cf0...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: Unable to install bootloader on software raid
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:36:58AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: After two of my hard disks failed, I decided to use a software raid in future and tried to install Debian Testing on the raid. The configuration of the raid and software installation went well until I tried to install the bootloader. Both Grub and Lilo refused to install. If it is not possible to install Grub or Lilo onto a software raid, why is the option available in Grub? I have seen several efforts to solve this problem on the internet, but none of them worked for me. What is the way to install Debian onto a software raid? I think the problem is that, depending on the RAID level, the BIOS won't be able to read the disks in order to load GRUB. If you're running RAID0, then you're in luck; both drives appear as normal disks and all that RAID does is ensure they are kept identical. If you're running RAID1, though, then each disk is a chopped-up mess of data and you NEED the RAID to provide the hint that half the data is on another device. Now, once grub is loaded, it CAN assemble the RAID to a sufficient point to load all the pieces of the kernel, but if the BIOS can't make enough sense out of the disk to load GRUB then you have a problem. In that case, you would normally leave a portion of the disk unRAIDed and install GRUB onto that. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 10:22:50AM CET, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org said: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:01:07 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: In Europe we have 220 Volts between phase and neutre, and 380 Volts between two phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current). Paraguay is in Europe now? Never claimed it was, why ? Cheers, Ron. PS Paraguay is also 220/380 Volts. Europe is officialy 230 V, which with the allowed interval around the nominal value permitted to accept continental 220 V and UK 240 V. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215103610.gb7...@rail.eu.org
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Monday 15 December 2014 09:22:50 Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 08:01:07 + (UTC) Curt cu...@free.fr wrote: In Europe we have 220 Volts between phase and neutre, and 380 Volts between two phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current). Paraguay is in Europe now? Never claimed it was, why ? In Europe *we* *have* I think he meant. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412151046.49831.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: multihomed server with ipv6
On 13 dec. 2014, at 21:25, Martinx - ジェームズ thiagocmarti...@gmail.com wrote: On 12 December 2014 at 12:07, li...@onemanifest.net wrote: I’m trying to setup a multi-homed server with dual stack networking. I’ve setup static adressing for both NICs for ipv4 and ipv6 like this: # The primary LAN network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1 dns-search somedomain.tld iface eth0 inet6 static address 2001:::3::20 netmask 64 gateway 2001:::3::1 dns-nameservers 2001:::3::1 dns-search somedomain.tld # The secondary DMZ network interface allow-hotplug eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.0.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1 dns-search somedomain.tld iface eth1 inet6 static address 2001:::2::20 netmask 64 gateway 2001:::2::1 dns-nameservers 2001:::2::1 dns-search somedomain.tld The NICs are configured fine, but only _one_ ipv6 gets assigned. After a reboot either eth0 or eth1 gets it’s ipv6 assigned, never both. I can add the missing ip manually with ip -6 addr add 2001:::2::20/64 dev eth1 But I can’t get it to be assigned automatically. What am I doing wrong here? I’ve been googling for multi homed servers, but can’t find anything on this issue. Also, I noticed that if I ping6 a host is subnet A from a NIC in subnet B, the servers ip6 in subnet A is used as source ip, even if an ipv6 in subnet B is available on that NIC. Does this mean that the return traffic is routed over subnet A in stead of B? This is not desirable since I’d like the traffic between both subnets to be fire-walled by the router. Thanks Hi! You need to read this: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html;-) Also, AFAIK, `ifupdown` doesn't handle multi-gateways, with load balance and etc, so, you'll need to configure it using up ip ..., or, via /etc/rc.local (i.e., don't use gateway entry on /etc/network/interfaces on this case). I have a similar setup working here (multi-wan), I can share the confs if you want. Best! Thiago Thanks, that article is very informative. As Pascal Hambourg also mentioned, it’s a little silly to add two default routes :-) Your link shows clearly how to handle both interfaces simultaniously with routes. The thing is, in my case there will not be any load balancing since the machine will run openvz containers that will be either using eth0 or eth1 (the server will be sort of split in two, running internet and LAN facing containers, both groups isolated from one another). So, I’ll be in fact connecting 4 networks; two virtual ones (one for each group of containers, venet0 and venet1) and the two NICs. Each virtual network will have to be routed to a single NIC… then mix in some iptables. I’ll just have to dive into this and report back when I’m stuck… Thanks so far. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/0a4837c6-b43d-4b31-992f-32042b908...@onemanifest.net
Re: music based applications in debian?
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 06:48:20 +0100 Francesco Ariis fa...@ariis.it wrote: I use abc notation [1]. It is lean, has everything I need composition wise and it is text based. Relevant Debian packages: abcm2ps - to typeset your music abcmidi - to convert abc files to midi Useful resources: - a page with abc examples [2] - abc-users mailing list [3] - more complex example: a transcription of Beethoven's Symphony No. 7 in abc notation [4] There is a very useful program called Easyabc, but alas the present release no longer works, some dependency is buggered ;-3( $ /usr/bin/easyabc Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/share/easyabc/easy_abc.py, line 197, in module import wx ImportError: No module named wx Cheers, Ron. -- Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. -- Dick Brandon -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215081545.233c8...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:46:49 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: In Europe we have 220 Volts between phase and neutre, and 380 Volts between two phases (if your house is wired for three-phase current). Paraguay is in Europe now? Never claimed it was, why ? In Europe *we* *have* I think he meant. Well, I lived in Europe for over fifty years... Cheers, Ron. -- A diplomat is man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never her age. -- Robert Frost -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215081846.4dbc1...@ron.cerrocora.org
Machine hangs at boot
My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE
Re: Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy
What happens when you run apt-get -f install? -- http://markorandjelovic.hopto.org One should not be afraid of humans. Well, I am not afraid of humans, but of what is inhuman in them. Ivo Andric, Signs near the travel-road -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215123700.49ec4...@eunet.rs
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On 12/15/2014 11:36, Erwan David wrote: Europe is officialy 230 V, which with the allowed interval around the nominal value permitted to accept continental 220 V and UK 240 V. Yes, that's exactly my understanding of things here at the moment. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548ec87f.3000...@merit.unu.edu
Re: Machine hangs at boot
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:37:10 +0400 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE 939. [ 34.070472] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro What's sda2? Looks like it has errors. Do fsck on sda2. -- http://markorandjelovic.hopto.org One should not be afraid of humans. Well, I am not afraid of humans, but of what is inhuman in them. Ivo Andric, Signs near the travel-road -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215124552.19a9b...@eunet.rs
Re: Machine hangs at boot
Fsck says sda2 is clean. Thanks Marko Randjelovic marko...@eunet.rs wrote: On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 14:37:10 +0400 German gentger...@gmail.com wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE 939. [ 34.070472] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro What's sda2? Looks like it has errors. Do fsck on sda2. -- http://markorandjelovic.hopto.org One should not be afraid of humans. Well, I am not afraid of humans, but of what is inhuman in them. Ivo Andric, Signs near the travel-road -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215124552.19a9b...@eunet.rs
Re: How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:49:57 -0800 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. B What to do with sections config-deb, config-rel, config-udeb? -- http://markorandjelovic.hopto.org One should not be afraid of humans. Well, I am not afraid of humans, but of what is inhuman in them. Ivo Andric, Signs near the travel-road -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215124313.597ff...@eunet.rs
Re: Machine hangs at boot
On Monday 15 December 2014 14:37:10 German wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE Let's try another wild guess. sdb looks corrupted or not initialized [2.147780] sdb: unknown partition table Can you unplug that 500GB disk to see if the kernel isn't chocking on a hardware error? Beware that it will shift sdc to sdb. Depending on the system configuration, it might be necessary to boot in single user/rescue mode. You may also want to unplug sdc to prevent it from being accessed as sdb. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1601304.9eq4r7q...@fmarchal.edpnet.be
Re: Machine hangs at boot
Do you refer to SDB as 500GB disk? Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 14:37:10 German wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE Let's try another wild guess. sdb looks corrupted or not initialized [2.147780] sdb: unknown partition table Can you unplug that 500GB disk to see if the kernel isn't chocking on a hardware error? Beware that it will shift sdc to sdb. Depending on the system configuration, it might be necessary to boot in single user/rescue mode. You may also want to unplug sdc to prevent it from being accessed as sdb. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1601304.9eq4r7q...@fmarchal.edpnet.be
Re: Machine hangs at boot
On Monday 15 December 2014 15:40:23 German wrote: Do you refer to SDB as 500GB disk? It looks so: [2.128658] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST500LM021-1KJ15 0001 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [2.130695] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte logical blocks: (500 GB/465 GiB) Frederic Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 14:37:10 German wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE Let's try another wild guess. sdb looks corrupted or not initialized [2.147780] sdb: unknown partition table Can you unplug that 500GB disk to see if the kernel isn't chocking on a hardware error? Beware that it will shift sdc to sdb. Depending on the system configuration, it might be necessary to boot in single user/rescue mode. You may also want to unplug sdc to prevent it from being accessed as sdb. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/709327382.yorfe8e...@fmarchal.edpnet.be
Re: Machine hangs at boot
Oh OK, there really is such a disk. Unfortunately I can't remove it. My machine was running smoothly for about two months and after kernel update this thing happened. Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 15:40:23 German wrote: Do you refer to SDB as 500GB disk? It looks so: [2.128658] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST500LM021-1KJ15 0001 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [2.130695] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte logical blocks: (500 GB/465 GiB) Frederic Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 14:37:10 German wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE Let's try another wild guess. sdb looks corrupted or not initialized [2.147780] sdb: unknown partition table Can you unplug that 500GB disk to see if the kernel isn't chocking on a hardware error? Beware that it will shift sdc to sdb. Depending on the system configuration, it might be necessary to boot in single user/rescue mode. You may also want to unplug sdc to prevent it from being accessed as sdb. Frederic
Re: How Not to Install systemd to Begin With.
Hi. On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 12:43:13PM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: On Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:49:57 -0800 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com wrote: After the lively debate here that replacing systemd after it's installed is not the same as not installing it in the first place: Here's the solution, more or less. Although, it seems, one will never be truly free from parts of systemd in Testing-Jessie. http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_remove_systemd_from_the_Netinst_CD I haven't tested this myself. So, no guarantees. B What to do with sections config-deb, config-rel, config-udeb? Create them as files, use said files by means of invoking update-cdrom.sh. Seems obvious, isn't it? Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215123112.GA15377@x101h
Re: Machine hangs at boot
On Monday 15 December 2014 15:48:40 German wrote: Oh OK, there really is such a disk. Unfortunately I can't remove it. My machine was running smoothly for about two months and after kernel update this thing happened. Is sdb supposed to contain a valid partition? If it is supposed to be a valid disk, then, I would say it is now corrupted… How frequently do you reboot your computer? If you reboot it infrequently and just rebooted it after the kernel update, then the disk failure may have been noticed only then. As the kernel driver handling that disk is a generic scsi, I doubt a kernel bug affects your system. The ata driver can't be blamed here either as it is recognizing sda just fine. Now, something else may be holding the boot sequence for 26 seconds just before mounting the swap partition on sda3 but you ruled out a corruption on sda2. And we lack evidences that any other peripheral is behaving strangely. Frederic Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 15:40:23 German wrote: Do you refer to SDB as 500GB disk? It looks so: [2.128658] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST500LM021-1KJ15 0001 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [2.130695] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte logical blocks: (500 GB/465 GiB) Frederic Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 14:37:10 German wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE Let's try another wild guess. sdb looks corrupted or not initialized [2.147780] sdb: unknown partition table Can you unplug that 500GB disk to see if the kernel isn't chocking on a hardware error? Beware that it will shift sdc to sdb. Depending on the system configuration, it might be necessary to boot in single user/rescue mode. You may also want to unplug sdc to prevent it from being accessed as sdb. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8251684.iwjy9h4...@fmarchal.edpnet.be
Removing USB entry in /etc/fstab in standard installations
Hi, I had problems a while ago with several USB sticks on Debian Jessie. For all non-root users they were automounted read-only. But there was no way of writing something onto the sticks for a non-privileged user. Fiddling around with user permissions and such didn't help. The simple solution finally was to comment out the following line in /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 After commenting out this line all normal users could write to all USB sticks, just as you would expect it to work. Someone suggested that the fstab entry existed in the first place because I had installed Jessie from a USB stick as root, but I can't judge that. If you look in the forums, many people face the same problem - they can read, but not write to a USB stick plugged in. The same solution as above works for them. Examples: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5t=119254 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30t=119061 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30t=119423 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10t=107470 So I have two questions now: 1. Is it necessary/a good thing that in a standard Debian installation this /etc/fstab USB entry appears? 2. Can developers or maintainers do something about this issue, so that novice users don't experience the same problems as I and several others did? I think being able to write to an USB stick should work out of the box for a non-root user. Perhaps there are ways to not let the fstab entry appear at all if it isn't necessary or remove it after installation.
Re: Machine hangs at boot
SDB is ext4. It is just a disk I use for data. Under normal circumstances, when system operating normally it isn't mounted for some reason and it gets mounted when I just click on it in LXDE. I guess that's why it's not initialized Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 15:48:40 German wrote: Oh OK, there really is such a disk. Unfortunately I can't remove it. My machine was running smoothly for about two months and after kernel update this thing happened. Is sdb supposed to contain a valid partition? If it is supposed to be a valid disk, then, I would say it is now corrupted… How frequently do you reboot your computer? If you reboot it infrequently and just rebooted it after the kernel update, then the disk failure may have been noticed only then. As the kernel driver handling that disk is a generic scsi, I doubt a kernel bug affects your system. The ata driver can't be blamed here either as it is recognizing sda just fine. Now, something else may be holding the boot sequence for 26 seconds just before mounting the swap partition on sda3 but you ruled out a corruption on sda2. And we lack evidences that any other peripheral is behaving strangely. Frederic Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 15:40:23 German wrote: Do you refer to SDB as 500GB disk? It looks so: [2.128658] scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access ATA ST500LM021-1KJ15 0001 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [2.130695] sd 1:0:0:0: [sdb] 976773168 512-byte logical blocks: (500 GB/465 GiB) Frederic Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 14:37:10 German wrote: My machine hangs at boot, so i'd like someone to take a look at my log. Thanks http://pastebin.com/3crkJgnE Let's try another wild guess. sdb looks corrupted or not initialized [2.147780] sdb: unknown partition table Can you unplug that 500GB disk to see if the kernel isn't chocking on a hardware error? Beware that it will shift sdc to sdb. Depending on the system configuration, it might be necessary to boot in single user/rescue mode. You may also want to unplug sdc to prevent it from being accessed as sdb. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/8251684.iwjy9h4...@fmarchal.edpnet.be
Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 12.12.2014 14:54, Richard Owlett a écrit : I.E. Who is responsible for the integrity of *MY* system? The correct answer is the proverbial Me, Myself, and I. It is most definitely not an individual nor group whom I've never met. There is most definitely a need for such systems as the vast majority do not have the needed experience/expertise. Yes, but, since you post on this list, I would tend to think you are someone with administration knowledge. That implys too much in my favor. At least basic one, especially since you are here since longer than me, you probably have learn tons of things from various threads. That is the value of mailing lists over web based fora - its easy to save and index gems of information. For someone which does not even know what is a mailing list, I would not think that they have or want to have enough knowledge of their computers to simply understand what installing an application really means. Remember: there are people able to trust phishing mails! And I did not even spoke about the fact that, around here, lot of people seems unable to feel responsible for their own actions... I would like to be wrong, or if not, that this feeling is only because I'm in the wrong place of the world, but I doubt it. That is how I operate ~100% of the time. Security is a non-issue, I have the only key to my house. It needs only one password to cove case of physical malicious access. The above has suffered multiple trims. I, the OP, said: ] There is a market (how large???) for a single user single task computer and OS. ] That is how I operate ~100% of the time. Security is a non-issue, I have ] the only key to my house. It needs only one password to cover case of physical ] malicious access. There would be advantages to a maintenance password to guard ] me from making careless/dumb errors on *MY OWN* machine. It would be extremely ] useful if its kernel supported running unmodified Debian packages. What about software you ran as normal user with full rights doing malicious access to your hardware, thus being able to corrupt things like UEFI? Hopefully I would learn from my errors. In any case the responsibility is mine. Not everyone is able or want to learn. Plus, to acquire knowledge, you need to have bases which allows you to do so. How could I learn what a virus is, if I do not know what a file is? How could I learn what a worm is, without knowing that applications can communicate? It is all the want to learn factor. Ask questions! When I was growing up, mid-20th century, a current saying was: The only dumb question is the one that is not asked. [For non-native speakers, the above is a pun on dumb. Dumb can mean mute or in informal usage stupid.] There would be advantages to a maintenance password to guard me from making careless/dumb errors on *MY OWN* machine. It would be extremely useful if its kernel supported running unmodified Debian packages. Linux is built as a multi user kernel. I guess any software using linux specific features, or multi-user based feature, like cups, for example, would need changes. At least to not try to create it's own user. I assumed it would possibly require a quite different core and apt substitute. How closely tied is content of a Debian package tied to a Linux kernel? It depends. Source package, or binary package? Package installing low level, or high level stuff? I'll bet on source package, so that I could not argue about the libc. Hopefully, high-level applications does not depends on linux kernel-related stuff, but now, we've seen applications recently which depends on features provided by systemd, which is, AFAIK, not ported on non-linux kernels. Also, a cat /etc/passwd could inform you about how many users are present on your system, but remember that it's only your system: other systems might have more, or less, depending on what was installed in the past (do you know that, when you purge a package, it won't remove the users it added?). Simple example: databases. They often create their own users. Do you have any package which depends on a database? I'm not sure, but I think cups also uses it's own user. Adapting Debian to a single user system might not be that hard, but I am quite sure that it will be a ton of work, and that strange issues will happen here and there. I was just commenting on what I would like as an ideal. I doubt its practicality. Now, I've heard about puppy linux, in terms like: users are root. It might interest you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548ede15.4090...@cloud85.net
Re: Machine hangs at boot
On Monday 15 December 2014 16:14:09 German wrote: SDB is ext4. It is just a disk I use for data. Under normal circumstances, when system operating normally it isn't mounted for some reason and it gets mounted when I just click on it in LXDE. I guess that's why it's not initialized LXDE can't mount a ext4 partition if the disk partition table is unknown. Could the partition table be in an unusual format and the new kernel doesn't support that format anymore? I doubt it. It is more likely that it got corrupted but you didn't notice until the system was rebooted. Can you check that disk with a live cd, rescue mode or whatever you have at hand? PS: I just saw your other mail where you write that catalyst is working fine. I expected that much. So sdb is again the most suspicious line reported by dmesg. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1634361.thzh7cf...@fmarchal.edpnet.be
Re: Removing USB entry in /etc/fstab in standard installations
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:46 AM, Christoph Baumhardt xt4...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I had problems a while ago with several USB sticks on Debian Jessie. For all non-root users they were automounted read-only. But there was no way of writing something onto the sticks for a non-privileged user. Fiddling around with user permissions and such didn't help. The simple solution finally was to comment out the following line in /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 autorw,user,noauto 0 0 After commenting out this line all normal users could write to all USB sticks, just as you would expect it to work. Someone suggested that the fstab entry existed in the first place because I had installed Jessie from a USB stick as root, but I can't judge that. Thanks you! I'd puzzled over that for quite a while, but never been sufficiently bothered to seek out a solution (as I can always use sudo or become root to do what needed to be done). Once the offending line is commented out (in my case, 2 such lines, one assigning /dev/sdc1 to /media/usb0, the other assigning /dev/sdc2 to /media/usb1) my USB stick mounted to /media/user/USB DISK/ and is owned by me (where user is my username). So, thanks again. If you look in the forums, many people face the same problem - they can read, but not write to a USB stick plugged in. The same solution as above works for them. Examples: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5t=119254 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30t=119061 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30t=119423 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10t=107470 So I have two questions now: 1. Is it necessary/a good thing that in a standard Debian installation this /etc/fstab USB entry appears? It is certainly not a good thing after installation, as it obviously breaks expected behavior. 2. Can developers or maintainers do something about this issue, so that novice users don't experience the same problems as I and several others did? I think being able to write to an USB stick should work out of the box for a non-root user. Perhaps there are ways to not let the fstab entry appear at all if it isn't necessary or remove it after installation. I agree. Thanks again for the information. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cajvvksoodqnbzi7uqau1qffsh_mnxdfnldqvdc6v-4mx0hm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
Le 14.12.2014 22:48, mourik jan heupink - merit a écrit : Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the rest of europe (220v). MJ I am not sure. But, how old is this reform? I have used voltmeters more than once, and have always read 220V. But, I have not had to find failures in an installation since at least few years, maybe 5-6 (which is a long time when you still are not 30 years old, so I'm not sure about how many years exactly I did not had to check). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/64a2ede654e4092092b64dbcd7141...@neutralite.org
Re: Machine hangs at boot
Le 15.12.2014 14:00, Frederic Marchal a écrit : On Monday 15 December 2014 15:48:40 German wrote: Oh OK, there really is such a disk. Unfortunately I can't remove it. My machine was running smoothly for about two months and after kernel update this thing happened. Is sdb supposed to contain a valid partition? If it is supposed to be a valid disk, then, I would say it is now corrupted… How frequently do you reboot your computer? If you reboot it infrequently and just rebooted it after the kernel update, then the disk failure may have been noticed only then. As the kernel driver handling that disk is a generic scsi, I doubt a kernel bug affects your system. The ata driver can't be blamed here either as it is recognizing sda just fine. Now, something else may be holding the boot sequence for 26 seconds just before mounting the swap partition on sda3 but you ruled out a corruption on sda2. And we lack evidences that any other peripheral is behaving strangely. Frederic Well I had similar... lag... in testing, since few months, because of dbus. Several other people had it, too. It could be an update of udev which introduced it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c29b48063c885f15dc5a0863b5a44...@neutralite.org
Re: Machine hangs at boot
Rescue mode is the same as recovery mode? If so, yes I can go to recovery but not sure how to proceed to check cdb for errors. Unfortunaly I don't have a rescue cd Frederic Marchal frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 16:14:09 German wrote: SDB is ext4. It is just a disk I use for data. Under normal circumstances, when system operating normally it isn't mounted for some reason and it gets mounted when I just click on it in LXDE. I guess that's why it's not initialized LXDE can't mount a ext4 partition if the disk partition table is unknown. Could the partition table be in an unusual format and the new kernel doesn't support that format anymore? I doubt it. It is more likely that it got corrupted but you didn't notice until the system was rebooted. Can you check that disk with a live cd, rescue mode or whatever you have at hand? PS: I just saw your other mail where you write that catalyst is working fine. I expected that much. So sdb is again the most suspicious line reported by dmesg. Frederic -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1634361.thzh7cf...@fmarchal.edpnet.be
Wheezy: mouse middle button issue
Hello Forum ! Since a couple of day, the middle button of my magic mouse (USB) has experienced a major issue: I can more copy/past or open-in-new-tab. A deeper investigation with xev shows that button 2 is no more existing: any idea ? My box is a Wheezy box that is daily updated. Cheers, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548eeb38.5060...@rezozer.net
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
I am not sure. But, how old is this reform? I have used voltmeters more than once, and have always read 220V. But, I have not had to find failures in an installation since at least few years, maybe 5-6 (which is a long time when you still are not 30 years old, so I'm not sure about how many years exactly I did not had to check). Google tells me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity Check the paragraph Standardisation. But please note: I'm no electrician at all :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548eebd1.7060...@merit.unu.edu
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On 15/12/14 14:30, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 14.12.2014 22:48, mourik jan heupink - merit a écrit : Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the rest of europe (220v). MJ I am not sure. But, how old is this reform? I have used voltmeters more than once, and have always read 220V. But, I have not had to find failures in an installation since at least few years, maybe 5-6 (which is a long time when you still are not 30 years old, so I'm not sure about how many years exactly I did not had to check). The change was agreed by the Council of Europe in 1989, with a 15-year implementation time. A reading of 220V on a nominal 230V +/- 6% (i.e 216.2 .. 243.8) is quite legitimate, and even to be expected -- Tony van der Hoff | mailto:t...@vanderhoff.org Ariège, France | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548eeec1.8030...@vanderhoff.org
Re: multihomed server with ipv6
On 13 dec. 2014, at 23:35, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: Hello, li...@onemanifest.net a écrit : I've setup static adressing for both NICs for ipv4 and ipv6 like this: # The primary LAN network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 iface eth0 inet6 static address 2001:::3::20 netmask 64 gateway 2001:::3::1 # The secondary DMZ network interface allow-hotplug eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.0.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 iface eth1 inet6 static address 2001:::2::20 netmask 64 gateway 2001:::2::1 The NICs are configured fine, but only _one_ ipv6 gets assigned. After a reboot either eth0 or eth1 gets it's ipv6 assigned, never both. I could reproduce it on a test machine. This looks like a tricky side-effect of multiple IPv4 default gateways. Here is what happens : One interface is configured first. Since you used allow-hotplug insteald of auto, the order may vary, depending on the discovery order by udev. When the second interface is configured for IPv4, ifup adds the address, tries to add the default route and gets an error because a default route already exists. Then it stops trying to configure the interface, including the IPv6 configuration. Bottom line : don't define a gateway on multiple interfaces unless you are sure that only one interface is active at a time. It usually won't work the way you expect. Default means no other choice. If there are two active gateways then you still have to make a choice. Thus defining two active default gateways makes no sense. I get it now, two defaults is a bit silly yes :-) You explanation is very clear. - I’ll use ‘auto’ to configure the interfaces, hot plug is not needed for this server. - Since this server will be used for running openvz containers, I’ll probably have to create explicit routes for each (virtual) network to the subnets the NICs are connected to and define an explicit gateway for each subnet? However, while doing some more research on this matter, it occurred to me that I can make life a lot easier on myself by using bridges. (Sorry if I sound very n00b-isch here) I think I could do the following: - configure only the LAN NIC on the host, so I get admin access to the host from the LAN - create a bridge on each NIC - connect the containers to the appropriate bridge for either LAN or DMZ, setting up networking on each container independently. This way the host is neatly isolated from the DMZ and the containers and the setup is far simpler. I’ll just dive into this and report back when I’m stuck. Also, I noticed that if I ping6 a host is subnet A from a NIC in subnet B, the servers ip6 in subnet A is used as source ip, even if an ipv6 in subnet B is available on that NIC. Does this mean that the return traffic is routed over subnet A in stead of B? This is not desirable since I'd like the traffic between both subnets to be fire-walled by the router. I tried hard and failed to understand what you mean. Please describe more precisely what are the host, NIC, subnets, servers, router you're talking about, how they relate to the above, the commands you run and the results you observe. My network is like this: other hosts || |NIC 2001:::3::1/64| == LAN subnet == |NIC eth0 2001:::3::20/64| internet == | router | |Server | |NIC 2001:::2::1/64| == DMZ subnet == |NIC eth1 2001:::2::20/64| || other hosts Configured with my half baked setup as described above, including adding the missing ipv6 due to the failure of ifup. Then I did a ping6 to a host in LAN subnet, from the DMZ NIC on the server. I saw that the ping command reported using the LAN ip6 (2001:::3::20/64) as a source ip, instead of the DMZ one (2001:::2::20/64) as I expected it to do. Hope this makes it clear. thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/fda3f6bd-cef7-41ba-b084-41ce65352...@onemanifest.net
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
Le 15.12.2014 15:22, Tony van der Hoff a écrit : On 15/12/14 14:30, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 14.12.2014 22:48, mourik jan heupink - merit a écrit : Hi, berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. Are you sure? Starting from 2000 or so, the whole of europe has gradually changed to 230v, as a compromise between UK (240v) and the rest of europe (220v). MJ I am not sure. But, how old is this reform? I have used voltmeters more than once, and have always read 220V. But, I have not had to find failures in an installation since at least few years, maybe 5-6 (which is a long time when you still are not 30 years old, so I'm not sure about how many years exactly I did not had to check). The change was agreed by the Council of Europe in 1989, with a 15-year implementation time. A reading of 220V on a nominal 230V +/- 6% (i.e 216.2 .. 243.8) is quite legitimate, and even to be expected I can also read this: In practice, this allows countries to continue to supply the same voltage (220 or 240 V) In other words: yet another useless rule. I love bureaucracy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/bdda344f5b4da8be48bce4afff66d...@neutralite.org
Re: Unable to install bootloader on software raid
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: I think the problem is that, depending on the RAID level, the BIOS won't be able to read the disks in order to load GRUB. If you're running RAID0, then you're in luck; both drives appear as normal disks and all that RAID does is ensure they are kept identical. If you're running RAID1, though, then each disk is a chopped-up mess of data and you NEED the RAID to provide the hint that half the data is on another device. It's the other way round: RAID0 is striped, aka chopped up mess and RAID1 are mirrored disks. S° -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7b7phlg9v...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: Transición a Debian
On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Renaud OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 18:47:02 +0100 Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net wrote: Hola, this is an English Forum. Cheers, Jerome It pains me, especially at this Xmas time, to see this kind of un-helpful rebuke given without any sort of useful reply to the original query, or at least some pointer where the enquirer could find the answer, or help, in his own language. Cheers, Ron. I had thought to use google translate to reply to the query in the posting but was not sure how well that work in practice so I decided against it. Regards Michael Fothergill Benedicite , sancti et superexaltate systemd
Re: Unable to start kvm virtual machines after re-install of testing
I have got the same problem, after a reinstall of testing I get the message about Unable to find a suitable CPU when trying to create a new VM (any flavour). It was working before the reinstall. My CPU details are as follows. processor: 7 vendor_id: AuthenticAMD cpu family: 21 model: 2 model name: AMD FX(tm)-9590 Eight-Core Processor stepping: 0 microcode: 0x6000822 cpu MHz: 4700.000 cache size: 2048 KB physical id: 0 siblings: 8 core id: 7 cpu cores: 4 apicid: 23 initial apicid: 7 fpu: yes fpu_exception: yes cpuid level: 13 wp: yes flags: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc rep_good nopl nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 fma cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes xsave avx f16c lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs xop skinit wdt lwp fma4 tce nodeid_msr tbm topoext perfctr_core perfctr_nb arat cpb hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale vmcb_clean flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold bmi1 bogomips: 9444.18 TLB size: 1536 4K pages clflush size: 64 cache_alignment: 64 address sizes: 48 bits physical, 48 bits virtual power management: ts ttp tm 100mhzsteps hwpstate cpb eff_freq_ro Regards Dave Bamford -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548ef803.1010...@bdisystems.co.uk
Re: Wheezy: mouse middle button issue
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014 15:07:52 +0100 Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.net wrote: Hello Forum ! Since a couple of day, the middle button of my magic mouse (USB) has experienced a major issue: I can more copy/past or open-in-new-tab. A deeper investigation with xev shows that button 2 is no more existing: any idea ? My box is a Wheezy box that is daily updated. Cheers, Jerome Try your mouse in another computer to see if it's not hardware failure. -- http://markorandjelovic.hopto.org One should not be afraid of humans. Well, I am not afraid of humans, but of what is inhuman in them. Ivo Andric, Signs near the travel-road -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215174157.3de29...@eunet.rs
Re: change subject of emails on ISP's IMAP server
On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 08:53:51PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: When my ISP encounters an email that it cannot scan for viruses, it prepends ***UNCHECKED*** to the subject. This occurs on every encrypted email I receive. It's highly annoying, and the ISP refuses to fix this. What tools can I use to detect this tag and delete it? I'd prefer to modify the subject of the email as it resides on my ISP's IMAP server. But if I have to rely on my email client (mutt) to do that, that's ok too I guess. Any suggestions would be welcome. Apparently, this is what imapfilter will do. You'll need to write a lua script to tell it what to do, but it looks like it comes with some hackable examples. -Rob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: making sound work in Jessie - how?
On 12/13/2014 09:40 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20141213_1926-0500, Ric Moore wrote: On 12/13/2014 06:43 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: What packages should I make sure are properly installed? pavucontrol is usually missed. You need it to admin pulse. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Thanks for the email. But perhaps you could give me more. I think my netinstall missed a whole bunch of stuff, like the people configuring the install task package forgot ot include a big bunch of stuff. When you installed the sound on you computer what did you install manually, not just the one that you are always kicking yourself for forgetting, the nine yards. You should have synaptic installed to help you select packages first. I couldn't live without it! Then make sure you have alsa installed completely. next search on pulse and install pavucontrol which is not installed by default. I've bitched about that, as you cannot admin pulse without it. So, for sound, alsa is what everything depends on. So, run alsamixer from a terminal command line. Make sure your audio devices are not muted and sound levels a point or two from being 100% high. If alsa doesn't work, pulse has no chance since it sits on top of alsa. Then run pavucontrol and you'll get a graphical admin front-end for pulse. . -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f2156.4050...@gmail.com
Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On 12/14/2014 04:38 PM, John Hasler wrote: berenger.morel writes: In France, the electric network provide 220V to everyone. In the USA as well. The normal wall outlets are 110 but 220 is brought into the house and used for things like stoves. The power utility's transformer has a 220V secondary with a grounded center tap so that you get 220V line to line or 110 from either line to neutral. 110V outlets are distributed equally between the two sides so as to balance the load. The usual service is 200 amps at 220V so you could run your mainframe. Not without dimming the lights some. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f25f8.3040...@gmail.com
Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE
The Wanderer wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Good! Then you saw that I did answer your question! :-) As I said... The reason that KDE 4.14.3 isn't in Jessie is because when Jessie froze KDE 4.14.2 was the latest available. KDE 4.14.3 was announced on 2014-Nov-11 several days *after* the freeze on 2014-Nov-05. That was after the freeze. At the time of the freeze KDE 4.14.3 *did not exist*. Asking why 4.14.3 isn't in Jessie is the same question as asking why 4.14.4 isn't in Jessie. Because 4.14.4 doesn't exist yet. No, it isn't the same question, because 4.14.3 does exist now; it just didn't when the freeze took place. Uhm... But that is the entire point of freeze! What does freeze mean to you? Since Jessie is frozen and it was frozen *before* KDE 4.14.3 existed means that KDE 4.14.3 can't have been in it. I think this is going to become a discussion of the process for making a release. That is okay. But that does seem like a different topic to me. Referring back to the OP, the original question was whether the version currently in testing would be updated prior to the release, and whether it wouldn't make sense to do so - the latter of which is essentially... A couple of points. One is that anyone is free to submit a wishlist bug in the BTS requesting a newer version be packaged into the archive. Those requests happen all of the time. If there is a newer version and someone specifically wants it then they are free to submit a bug asking for it. However IMNHO it isn't enough to ask for it simply because the version number has gotten larger. Packaging takes effort. A lot of upstreams (talking random packages here) churn through a lot of releases and not every release is suitable for packaging. This can create a lot of thrash and make-work for packagers. Therefore packagers often wait and see and then only package up what ends up becoming the good versions and skipping the ones in between. Therefore if someone wants a newer version with a BTS wishlist I think they should say specifically what features or bug fixes they want from the newer version. Version X.Y fixes Bug#123 and includes the new feature Z. If they can enumerate out what they want then great. That adds weight to why a new package should be made (and why in freeze that the release team should approve the exception). But if they can't list anything specific they want from the new version then that also says something too. Another point is that asking us here on debian-user is going to get a lot of opinions none of which matter. The KDE maintainers are the ones to ask this question. They have been maintaining it. They will know what they are thinking they will do for the future. Asking us is fine but no one except the KDE maintainers will know what they are planning. Another point is that since Jessie is being prepared for release it has entered freeze. That changes the process for upgrades through Sid Untable into Testing and now requires an exception from the release team. This is really an extremely simple case. In order to get a newer version of KDE into Jessie a) someone would need to package it into Debian Unstable which I am sure will happen and b) the release team would need to approve it into Jessie. Unless the release team approves it Jessie will release with the version that existed at the time of the freeze. Simple! ...asking why these steps would not happen. (Particularly given that something at least outwardly similar seems to have happened with GNOME, as pointed out in a response by Liam O'Toole.) Talking about GNOME triggers two comments. One is that the GNOME maintainers are not the same people as the KDE maintainers as far as I know. The two groups don't need to operate the same. Most of the different groups in Debian have their own agenda and operate differently. And secondly I will say enough said about GNOME and systemd in Debian. Possibly the answer is that it (probably) _will_ happen, or possibly the answer is that there are reasons why KDE 4.14.3 is not suitable for a freeze exception even though GNOME 3.14.2 was, or possibly the answer is something else. (I'm not attempting to address that myself.) Complete agreement. But a flippant response with a generic because the freeze means no updates, which is essentially what I interpret you as having said (albeit without as much detail as you gave), does not seem to really address the question as I understand it. I am sorry you read my postings as flippant. They were not written flippantly from my perspective. I created them to be as factual and as descriptive as I was capable of making them. It is sometimes hard judgement to make between answering an X-Y question by answering X or by guessing Y and answering about Y. I think the real question here is, Why does Jessie need to freeze? For users of Stable the goal is obvious. It is part of the process of making a new release. For
Re: Machine hangs at boot
Just for the hack of it, I tried startx and the system hangs. So it seems to me that it is server issues. Is that possible to look at server logs? Where are they located? berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 15.12.2014 14:00, Frederic Marchal a écrit : On Monday 15 December 2014 15:48:40 German wrote: Oh OK, there really is such a disk. Unfortunately I can't remove it. My machine was running smoothly for about two months and after kernel update this thing happened. Is sdb supposed to contain a valid partition? If it is supposed to be a valid disk, then, I would say it is now corrupted… How frequently do you reboot your computer? If you reboot it infrequently and just rebooted it after the kernel update, then the disk failure may have been noticed only then. As the kernel driver handling that disk is a generic scsi, I doubt a kernel bug affects your system. The ata driver can't be blamed here either as it is recognizing sda just fine. Now, something else may be holding the boot sequence for 26 seconds just before mounting the swap partition on sda3 but you ruled out a corruption on sda2. And we lack evidences that any other peripheral is behaving strangely. Frederic Well I had similar... lag... in testing, since few months, because of dbus. Several other people had it, too. It could be an update of udev which introduced it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/c29b48063c885f15dc5a0863b5a44...@neutralite.org
Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE
Andrei POPESCU wrote: Stretch and Buster were only meant as example, please consider my nitpick to have been: The name of the next release is generally known, latest by the time of the freeze of the previous one. Sure. :-) In this particular case the Release Team was slightly late, but they made up for it by announcing the name also for the next release, which makes the lives of a few package maintainers easier. I am curious. How does knowing the names further in advance make some things easier? For my part I think it confusing that a release candidate will have a lifecycle of two years (give or take). During that lifecycle it will start out identical to the previous and then grow into the new. We will have two years of email talking about Jessie and all of that will be about something different than the Jessie that releases next year. For example two years ago if you had installed Jessie you would have gotten sysvinit and today if you install Jessie you will get systemd. That both of those are facts make naming troublesome. Later when searching the archives for a problem in Jessie we find all manor of postings that talk about Jessie but are actually referring to quite a different set of bits. It isn't practical to do so because the name gets embedded in various places but in an ideal world I would dream of a process where the release would always be referred to as $release or something and then upon the day of freeze and release it then was given its name. Then we would have a Jessie that once named would then refer to the release from that point forward. Not practical to implement this in any way I can imagine but I can still dream about it because it would be better than we have now. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: multihomed server with ipv6
li...@onemanifest.net wrote: I’ve setup static adressing for both NICs for ipv4 and ipv6 like this: I see you have good answers from others. Great. But I didn't see these comments that I am going to make. # The primary LAN network interface allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.1.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.1.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 gateway 192.168.1.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1 dns-search somedomain.tld Delete the network and broadcast lines. Those are redundant with the netmask. Specify only the netmask and let the program calculate it's own netmask and network values. The ability to separately specify network and broadcast is for flexibility but I have never personally seen a configuration that needed those set separately from netmask. # The secondary DMZ network interface allow-hotplug eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.0.xx netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 gateway 192.168.0.1 # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed dns-nameservers 192.168.0.1 dns-search somedomain.tld Same thing here. Delete the network and broadcast lines. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: About Testing Freeze and KDE
On Mon, 15 Dec 2014, Bob Proulx wrote: I am curious. How does knowing the names further in advance make some things easier? 1) Tools can include support for releases which are +1 and +2. For example, debootstrap needs to know the names of the release so you can install it. Lots of other tools too. That both of those are facts make naming troublesome. Later when searching the archives for a problem in Jessie we find all manor of postings that talk about Jessie but are actually referring to quite a different set of bits. There's not really anything that can be done about this, beyond people avoiding describing what is currently testing as what will be the stable release Jessie. And frankly, even Jessie will have changes over its lifetime. Older posts are always going to be old; they may be accurate now, or they may not be. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Clean living is less fun and you wind up feeling stupid when you still die. -- a softer world #489 http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=489 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215194749.gs31...@rzlab.ucr.edu
Re: Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy
James Allsopp wrote: I've not had access to my machine for a while, and I've just tried to do an upgrade from squeeze to wheezy using the instructions found here; http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-debian-squeeze-to-wheezy Why are you using those instructions instead of the official Debian ones? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/index.en.html and I got to the aptitude full-upgrade part which seemed to hang If you read the howtoforge instructions carefully you will see that it says: Instead of using apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade, you can also use the following commands, but please note that on http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html it reads The upgrade process for some previous releases recommended the use of aptitude for the upgrade. This tool is not recommended for upgrades from squeeze to wheezy.. For me, aptitude has worked fine for all Squeeze to Wheezy upgrades so far. Therefore when you are using the aptitude full-upgrade part above you are explicitly going outside of the official recommended procedure. I strongly recommend the apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade approach instead as documented in the offical Debian release notes. I've tried dpkg --configure -a apt-get -f install but can't get anything to work. Did you forget to apt-get update after changing the sources.list file. apt-get update Systems can be complex with complex interactions. If every system were identical then it would be easy to test those and produce a plan that would work for everyone. So first let me say that it is hard because only your system is your system. Here's a list of the objections, but I don't know how to solve them, short of installing every package manually. If you've any ideas, I would be grateful to receive them, My official recommendation would be to follow the instructions in the release notes as that is the best complete source of knowledge on how to upgrade. I will guess that your problem here is some additional undesired source in your /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* files. Ensure you have a good system back. Reset sources.list back to Squeeze: apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade # check removal list carefully! apt-get autoremove dpkg -l | grep ^rc apt-get purge ... find /etc -name '*.dpkg-*' -o -name '*.ucf-*' rm ... dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | awk '$NF==obsolete{print$1}' apt-get purge ... Reset sources.list to Wheezy: apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade # check removal list carefully! apt-get autoremove dpkg -l | grep ^rc apt-get purge ... find /etc -name '*.dpkg-*' -o -name '*.ucf-*' rm ... dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | awk '$NF==obsolete{print$1}' apt-get purge ... As you can see I suggest cleaning to be very important. Leaving a lot of the lint behind can and does often cause real upgrade problems that does not exist on a clean system. When there is a conflict here I defer to the official Debian release notes. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?
Hi, I'm running Debian testing fully updated as of 12/14. Contents of /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free This version reflects editing I did to it while doing a dist-upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie immediately after installation of Wheezy from a live CD. Upgrades have been working flawlessly ever since the date of installation some weeks ago. Today, both apt-get and aptitude fail to update. apt-get output from apt-get update (It just stops. You can see the Ctrl-C I issue to interrupt the process after it hangs.) 0% [Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (2610:148:1f10:3::89)] [Connecting to ftp.debian.org (2001:610:1908:b000::148:12)] [Connecting to s^C aptitude output in interactive mode after issuing u update keypress (Please excuse the line reformatting of the third line due to allowed line length set in my mail client.) Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (2610:148:1f10:3::89) Connecting to ftp.debian.org (2001:610:1908:b000::148:12) Connecting to security.debian.org (2607:ea00:101:3c0b:207:e9ff:fe00:e595) A quick look at https://mirror.debian.org/status shows the mirrors to be unavailable. I cannot get to https://www.google.com, but http://www.bing.com comes up instantly. Pinging of anything by name or by IP works perfectly. Logging into a remotely located VPN and trying all of these functions from there results in exactly the same findings. Is the Internet broken, and if so, I'm wondering why am I seeing no traffic about that here on debian-user or at any news site? Did I miss an announcement or something? 8-) Thanks, JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f494f.9030...@comcast.net
Re: Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?
On Monday 15 December 2014 20:49:19 Jape Person wrote: A quick look at https://mirror.debian.org/status shows the mirrors to be unavailable. I cannot get to https://www.google.com, but http://www.bing.com comes up instantly. Just tried. There is no problem with google or bing, but a problem with https://mirror.debian.org/status However, I just did an aptitude update followed by a full-upgrade (for one security uopdate!) without any problems at all. Sources.list: quote deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu lucid main deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main /quote Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412152115.18144.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?
Do you actually have working ipv6 connectivity because those hostnames are resolving to v6 IP addresses On Dec 15, 2014 3:50 PM, Jape Person jap...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, I'm running Debian testing fully updated as of 12/14. Contents of /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free This version reflects editing I did to it while doing a dist-upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie immediately after installation of Wheezy from a live CD. Upgrades have been working flawlessly ever since the date of installation some weeks ago. Today, both apt-get and aptitude fail to update. apt-get output from apt-get update (It just stops. You can see the Ctrl-C I issue to interrupt the process after it hangs.) 0% [Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (2610:148:1f10:3::89)] [Connecting to ftp.debian.org (2001:610:1908:b000::148:12)] [Connecting to s^C aptitude output in interactive mode after issuing u update keypress (Please excuse the line reformatting of the third line due to allowed line length set in my mail client.) Connecting to ftp.us.debian.org (2610:148:1f10:3::89) Connecting to ftp.debian.org (2001:610:1908:b000::148:12) Connecting to security.debian.org (2607:ea00:101:3c0b:207:e9ff:fe00:e595) A quick look at https://mirror.debian.org/status shows the mirrors to be unavailable. I cannot get to https://www.google.com, but http://www.bing.com comes up instantly. Pinging of anything by name or by IP works perfectly. Logging into a remotely located VPN and trying all of these functions from there results in exactly the same findings. Is the Internet broken, and if so, I'm wondering why am I seeing no traffic about that here on debian-user or at any news site? Did I miss an announcement or something? 8-) Thanks, JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f494f.9030...@comcast.net
Re: multihomed server with ipv6
one...@onemanifest.net a écrit : - Since this server will be used for running openvz containers, I'll probably have to create explicit routes for each (virtual) network to the subnets the NICs are connected to and define an explicit gateway for each subnet? If the server does routing for the containers, you'll run into the same problem as above. You'll have to use advanced routing and setup multiple routing tables based on source address or inbound interface, containing each a different default route. However, while doing some more research on this matter, it occurred to me that I can make life a lot easier on myself by using bridges. (Sorry if I sound very n00b-isch here) I think I could do the following: - configure only the LAN NIC on the host, so I get admin access to the host from the LAN - create a bridge on each NIC - connect the containers to the appropriate bridge for either LAN or DMZ, setting up networking on each container independently. When adding interfaces to a bridge, you must configure IP only on the bridge, not on the bridged interfaces. There are exceptions, but only used in very special cases such as brouters (bridge-routers) when you know exactly what you are doing. This way the host is neatly isolated from the DMZ and the containers and the setup is far simpler. Yes, the server does not have to do routing for the containers. Then I did a ping6 to a host in LAN subnet, from the DMZ NIC on the server. What exact command did you use ? ping6 -I interface ? I don't think you can do that and override the routing table. All you can do is force the source address. I saw that the ping command reported using the LAN ip6 (2001:::3::20/64) as a source ip, instead of the DMZ one (2001:::2::20/64) as I expected it to do. It probably sent the packets on the LAN interface. I know there are different versions of ping6, but mine (from iputils-ping) just seems to ignore the interface passed with -I. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f544d@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Unable to install bootloader on software raid
Sven Hartge a écrit : Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: I think the problem is that, depending on the RAID level, the BIOS won't be able to read the disks in order to load GRUB. If you're running RAID0, then you're in luck; both drives appear as normal disks and all that RAID does is ensure they are kept identical. If you're running RAID1, though, then each disk is a chopped-up mess of data and you NEED the RAID to provide the hint that half the data is on another device. It's the other way round: RAID0 is striped, aka chopped up mess and RAID1 are mirrored disks. Besides, the Linux RAID arrays usually do no reside on whole raw disks but on RAID partitions. GRUB's boot image and core image are usually installed on each disk outside these partitions. This way all the sectors needed to load GRUB's core image can be found on each single disk, regardless of the RAID level. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f5683.6010...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: How to print duplex when using lpr
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Don Armstrong d...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I sometimes use lpr in a pipeline getting postscript from groff. My printer (HP CP2025dn) has a duplexer and I'd like to use it. I could look up the Postscript for that, but I'm wondering if there's a way to force either of groff or lpr to do it for me. If you're using cups, you can do the following: lp -o sides=two-sided-long-edge filename; man lp; for details. Nice. Works on lpr too, but the man page doesn't show it. Thanks. -- Kevin O'Gorman #define QUESTION ((bb) || (!bb)) /* Shakespeare */ Please consider the environment before printing this email.
Re: fsck on boot in Jessie
On Vi, 12 dec 14, 21:29:47, Jape Person wrote: At least I think I've got that right. I'm sleepy, and I'm even dumber than normal because of antihistamines. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will offer a correction. Yes, you are giving me too much credit :) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: fsck on boot in Jessie
On Vi, 12 dec 14, 19:08:37, Paul E Condon wrote: Was there no one in the group discussion who was aware of systemd-fsck ?? Surely, if there was (s)he would have enlighten the rest of us as to this fact and the discussion would have been far less looong. The discussion started because systemd-fsck doesn't allow interruptions ;) Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?
On 12/15/2014 04:15 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 15 December 2014 20:49:19 Jape Person wrote: A quick look at https://mirror.debian.org/status shows the mirrors to be unavailable. I cannot get to https://www.google.com, but http://www.bing.com comes up instantly. Just tried. There is no problem with google or bing, but a problem with https://mirror.debian.org/status However, I just did an aptitude update followed by a full-upgrade (for one security uopdate!) without any problems at all. Sources.list: quote deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release # deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu lucid main deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main # deb http://depot-trinity.dotriver.eu/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://mirror.ntmm.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-v3.5.13/debian wheezy main deb http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/slavek-banko/axis/ubuntu wheezy main /quote Lisi Hi, Lisi! Thanks for the response. Yeah it worked for -- and for everybody else that didn't have a moron (namely me) setting up their local network. ;) What happened was that our Comcast modem died yesterday and got replaced by a tech. The new modem had IPv6 enabled, and I didn't notice. So...when half of the Internet looks broken, and the local network looks okay, and no one is talking about the half-broken Internet online...yeah, it's misconfiguration of the local network. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f6022.30...@comcast.net
Re: Is something wrong with Debian mirrors today (12/15/2014)?
On 12/15/2014 04:22 PM, chris wrote: Do you actually have working ipv6 connectivity because those hostnames are resolving to v6 IP addresses On Dec 15, 2014 3:50 PM, Jape Person jap...@comcast.net wrote: Hi, Chris. Thanks for the reply. It put me on the right track. I don't know why I wasn't paying attention to the actual content of what I was seeing. It was the other issues I was seeing plus the weird findings at the mirror status site that misled my feeble mind. No, I don't use IPv6, but the new replacement cable modem installed by a Comcast tech yesterday had it enabled. I looked at the new modem's settings, turned off IPv6 there (and in my router and in my network settings), and everything's okay now. That'll teach to me to let the default settings sit in network-manager and the router's IPv6 settings! You fixed about half of the Internet today -- at least for me! Yay! ;) Thanks, JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f64fa.5000...@comcast.net
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 04:12:16PM +0400, German wrote: I am asking this because I was unable to boot the previous version a couple month ago. Thanks Yes, I have a full Debian 7.7 running on a 5350 right now. The motherboard is an MSI AM1I. Everything I've tried on it works - I have not tried sound or X11, but I wouldn't expect any problems with either. -dsr- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215224614.gn30...@randomstring.org
Re: System is stuck at boot
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 09:40:09PM +0400, German wrote: While the system mentioned is lubuntu, I am wondering if are there any experts who can look at my dmesg.log file and tell me what is wrong. This would be extremely appreciated. There are no errors in that boot sequence. What are you experiencing? If you get a black, unresponsive screen, it is likely that X is not configured properly. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel. If it boots to a root prompt, then you can go and experiment on X. -dsr- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20141215224933.go30...@randomstring.org
Re: Is Debian live 7.7 will run on athlon 5350?
Thank you, I guess it is a time to install Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 04:12:16PM +0400, German wrote: I am asking this because I was unable to boot the previous version a couple month ago. Thanks Yes, I have a full Debian 7.7 running on a 5350 right now. The motherboard is an MSI AM1I. Everything I've tried on it works - I have not tried sound or X11, but I wouldn't expect any problems with either. -dsr-
Re: System is stuck at boot
Yes, I got a black, unresponsive screen. I went to recovery mode already, so I have a shell root access. Are any x logs that can be examined? Thanks Dan Ritter d...@randomstring.org wrote: On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 09:40:09PM +0400, German wrote: While the system mentioned is lubuntu, I am wondering if are there any experts who can look at my dmesg.log file and tell me what is wrong. This would be extremely appreciated. There are no errors in that boot sequence. What are you experiencing? If you get a black, unresponsive screen, it is likely that X is not configured properly. Try passing init=/bin/sh to the kernel. If it boots to a root prompt, then you can go and experiment on X. -dsr-
Re: fsck on boot in Jessie
On 12/15/2014 05:22 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 12 dec 14, 21:29:47, Jape Person wrote: At least I think I've got that right. I'm sleepy, and I'm even dumber than normal because of antihistamines. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone will offer a correction. Yes, you are giving me too much credit :) Kind regards, Andrei Well, I have mentioned you a few times lately -- not only in the spirit of recognizing you for helping me with my particular problem, but also to help others find the context of that help in the thread. Besides, it would be kind of hard to give you too much credit. You're one of the most helpful people on the list, and you manage to be one of the more tactful participants here, too. Best regards, JP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/548f6ce3.4030...@comcast.net
Re: Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy
Thanks Bob, Hit a snag, I thought the upgrade would update the kernel and it's left me with a mismatch. I can't now log into the machine, no ssh and no keyboard. I think I'm going to try and use a netinst disk to rescue the system, unless you've any other ideas? I remember in Linux a long time ago there was a method to step through the boot sequence item by item. Could I wait until the network came up, then drop into a shell? Thanks James On 15 December 2014 at 20:10, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: James Allsopp wrote: I've not had access to my machine for a while, and I've just tried to do an upgrade from squeeze to wheezy using the instructions found here; http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-debian-squeeze-to-wheezy Why are you using those instructions instead of the official Debian ones? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/index.en.html and I got to the aptitude full-upgrade part which seemed to hang If you read the howtoforge instructions carefully you will see that it says: Instead of using apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade, you can also use the following commands, but please note that on http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html it reads The upgrade process for some previous releases recommended the use of aptitude for the upgrade. This tool is not recommended for upgrades from squeeze to wheezy.. For me, aptitude has worked fine for all Squeeze to Wheezy upgrades so far. Therefore when you are using the aptitude full-upgrade part above you are explicitly going outside of the official recommended procedure. I strongly recommend the apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade approach instead as documented in the offical Debian release notes. I've tried dpkg --configure -a apt-get -f install but can't get anything to work. Did you forget to apt-get update after changing the sources.list file. apt-get update Systems can be complex with complex interactions. If every system were identical then it would be easy to test those and produce a plan that would work for everyone. So first let me say that it is hard because only your system is your system. Here's a list of the objections, but I don't know how to solve them, short of installing every package manually. If you've any ideas, I would be grateful to receive them, My official recommendation would be to follow the instructions in the release notes as that is the best complete source of knowledge on how to upgrade. I will guess that your problem here is some additional undesired source in your /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* files. Ensure you have a good system back. Reset sources.list back to Squeeze: apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade # check removal list carefully! apt-get autoremove dpkg -l | grep ^rc apt-get purge ... find /etc -name '*.dpkg-*' -o -name '*.ucf-*' rm ... dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | awk '$NF==obsolete{print$1}' apt-get purge ... Reset sources.list to Wheezy: apt-get update apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade # check removal list carefully! apt-get autoremove dpkg -l | grep ^rc apt-get purge ... find /etc -name '*.dpkg-*' -o -name '*.ucf-*' rm ... dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | awk '$NF==obsolete{print$1}' apt-get purge ... As you can see I suggest cleaning to be very important. Leaving a lot of the lint behind can and does often cause real upgrade problems that does not exist on a clean system. When there is a conflict here I defer to the official Debian release notes. Bob
Re: fsck on boot in Jessie
On Monday 15 December 2014 23:21:07 Jape Person wrote: Besides, it would be kind of hard to give you too much credit. You're one of the most helpful people on the list, and you manage to be one of the more tactful participants here, too. Hear, hear. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201412160010.42729.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Kernel failure
No one? FWIW. Haven’t had a problem since I posted this several days ago. Any thoughts? On Sat, 12/13/14, golinux goli...@riseup.net wrote: Subject: Kernel failure To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 1:40 AM On squeeze LTS. Upgraded the kernel 2 days ago. Everything was going OK. Then out of nowhere I get a kernel failure popup after coming out of suspend. Everything seems to be working OK so I've just gone on about my business. But don't want to get bit down the road. What should I do? This has never happened in the 10 years I've been using Linux so I'm a little lost. Here's the log: Kernel failure message 1: [ cut here ] WARNING: at /build/linux-2.6-bBJNRm/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_i386_none/kernel/rcutree.c:277 rcu_exit_nohz+0x43/0x5d() Hardware name: P35-DS3L Modules linked in: ata_piix :00:1f.5: PCI INT B - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19 xt_limit xt_tcpudp ipt_LOG ata_piix :00:1f.5: setting latency timer to 64 ipt_MASQUERADE xt_DSCP ipt_REJECT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp xt_state sco bridge stp bnep rfcomm acpi_cpufreq l2cap bluetooth cpufreq_powersave rfkill cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_stats cpufreq_userspace ppdev lp binfmt_misc fuse iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack nf_defrag_ipv4 iptable_mangle iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables ext4 jbd2 crc16 it87 hwmon_vid coretemp loop snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel i2c_i801 nvidia(P) snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep parport_pc i2c_core processor snd_pcm snd_seq snd_timer snd_seq_device evdev parport snd soundcore snd_page_alloc pcspkr psmouse serio_raw ext3 jbd mbcache sg sr_mod cdrom sd_mod crc_t10dif ata_generic uhci_hcd r8169 mii pata_jmicron thermal ata_piix thermal_sys ehci_hcd libata button scsi_mod usbcore nls_base [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: PW 2.6.32-5-686 #1 Call Trace: [c10308fd] ? warn_slowpath_common+0x5e/0x8a [c1030933] ? warn_slowpath_null+0xa/0xc [c106f5b7] ? rcu_exit_nohz+0x43/0x5d [c104f6a5] ? tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick+0x6d/0x12d [c1002338] ? cpu_idle+0x9b/0xa3 ---[ end trace 150783a4a64aa323 ]--- Please cc to the above address. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1418693852.46886.yahoomailba...@web163403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: Kernel failure
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:37 AM, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote: No one? FWIW. Haven’t had a problem since I posted this several days ago. Any thoughts? On Sat, 12/13/14, golinux goli...@riseup.net wrote: Subject: Kernel failure To: Debian User debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, December 13, 2014, 1:40 AM On squeeze LTS. Upgraded the kernel 2 days ago. Everything was going OK. Then out of nowhere I get a kernel failure popup after coming out of suspend. Everything seems to be working OK so I've just gone on about my business. But don't want to get bit down the road. What should I do? This has never happened in the 10 years I've been using Linux so I'm a little lost. Here's the log: Kernel failure message 1: [ cut here ] WARNING: at /build/linux-2.6-bBJNRm/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_i386_none/kernel/rcutree.c:277 rcu_exit_nohz+0x43/0x5d() Hardware name: P35-DS3L Modules linked in: ata_piix :00:1f.5: PCI INT B - GSI 19 (level, low) - IRQ 19 xt_limit xt_tcpudp ipt_LOG ata_piix :00:1f.5: setting latency timer to 64 ipt_MASQUERADE xt_DSCP ipt_REJECT nf_conntrack_irc nf_conntrack_ftp xt_state sco bridge stp bnep rfcomm acpi_cpufreq l2cap bluetooth cpufreq_powersave rfkill cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_stats cpufreq_userspace ppdev lp binfmt_misc fuse iptable_nat nf_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack nf_defrag_ipv4 iptable_mangle iptable_filter ip_tables x_tables ext4 jbd2 crc16 it87 hwmon_vid coretemp loop snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_intel i2c_i801 nvidia(P) snd_hda_codec snd_hwdep parport_pc i2c_core processor snd_pcm snd_seq snd_timer snd_seq_device evdev parport snd soundcore snd_page_alloc pcspkr psmouse serio_raw ext3 jbd mbcache sg sr_mod cdrom sd_mod crc_t10dif ata_generic uhci_hcd r8169 mii pata_jmicron thermal ata_piix thermal_sys ehci_hcd libata button scsi_mod usbcore nls_base [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Pid: 0, comm: swapper Tainted: PW 2.6.32-5-686 #1 Call Trace: [c10308fd] ? warn_slowpath_common+0x5e/0x8a [c1030933] ? warn_slowpath_null+0xa/0xc [c106f5b7] ? rcu_exit_nohz+0x43/0x5d [c104f6a5] ? tick_nohz_restart_sched_tick+0x6d/0x12d [c1002338] ? cpu_idle+0x9b/0xa3 ---[ end trace 150783a4a64aa323 ]--- Please cc to the above address. Hmmm; Read-Copy Update Mechanism Looks like a disk drive is having trouble waking up from suspend and resuming. Could be a bad disk drive, mb, cable, or lack of enough power/current... I have seen this before with some internal drives advertised as green, and with some external usb drives... Burhan
Re: Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy
James Allsopp wrote: Thanks Bob, Hit a snag, I thought the upgrade would update the kernel and it's left me with a mismatch. I can't now log into the machine, no ssh and no keyboard. I think I'm going to try and use a netinst disk to rescue the system, unless you've any other ideas? Using the install disk in rescue mode is an excellent idea. I remember in Linux a long time ago there was a method to step through the boot sequence item by item. Could I wait until the network came up, then drop into a shell? I think using rescue mode would be easier than using single user mode and trying to repair your system that way. Both should work. But the installer will boot to a fully working rescue mode. Then using it I think would be easier than trying to single step through a broken non-booting system. Here is the official documentation for rescue mode: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en But that is fairly terse. Let me say that the rescue mode looks just like the install mode initially. It will ask you keyboard and locale questions and you might wonder if you are rescuing or installing! But it will have Rescue in the corners so that you can tell and be assured. Get the tool set up with keyboard, locale, timezone, and similar and eventually it will give you a menu with a list of actions. Advanced options... Rescue mode keyboard ...starts networking... hostname domainname ...apt update release files... ...loading additional components, Retrieving udebs... ...detecting disks... Then eventually it will get to a menu Enter rescue mode that will ask what device to use as a root file system. It will list the partitions that it has automatically detected. Select the appropriate for your system. Then continue. At that point it presents a menu Execute a shell in /dev/ That should get you a shell on your system. At that point you can execute apt-get commands and grub-install and other things as needed. Hopefully that will get you back to a point where you can then debug and recover your system fully. Good luck! Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: System is stuck at boot
German wrote: Yes, I got a black, unresponsive screen. I went to recovery mode already, so I have a shell root access. Are any x logs that can be examined? Thanks Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for the X logs. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature