Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, have you? Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) No doubt long experienced drivers of horse drawn carriages thought that they were well qualified to drive an Alfa Romeo 6C at full speeed. Lisi Now be nice Lisi, I was trying to be. In those days, and even yet in Amish country, the horse drawn carriage is the biggest traffic hazard extant. Horses occasionally think they know a better way. Raised on an Iowa farm, I learned 75 years ago that they are not the sharpest tack in the box. Never got the chance to drive a hot Alfa, but was invited to turn a Mercedes 300 SLR loose once, and found it was quite possible to run out of road by the time you snick it into 3rd gear. I had just repaired the radio in it. A Telefunkin of course. Gee, that was almost 60 years ago. In those days I thought nothing of going places sensible angels don't. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501230742.15894.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: connaitre les paquets installés venant de sid et/ou experimental
On 2015-01-23 17:42:26 +0100, Nicolas wrote: Je cherche à connaître sur mon pc quels paquets installés viennent de sid ou d'experimental. Je ne vois pas quel commande (apt ou dpkg...) utiliser. Quelqu'un aurait-il la réponse à cette question naïve ? Regarde apt-show-versions (il y a peut-être d'autres solutions). -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123175829.ga23...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: Instalacion de debian en sparc
Silo tengo instalado en un sun la unica diferencia es que lo instale con pxe lo mas probavle es que la unidad de dvd este andando mal proba con una de portable El 23 de enero de 2015 9:41:44 a.m. GMT-03:00, Romero, Fernando from...@cferroviarios.com.ar escribió: Hola como estan, mi consulta es si alguien pudo instalar debían en un sparc? El servidor es un sunfire v240. No puedo conseguir que bootee desde el cdrom Saludos
Re: connaitre les paquets installés venant de sid et/ou experimental
Le 23-01-2015 18:58, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2015-01-23 17:42:26 +0100, Nicolas wrote: Je cherche à connaître sur mon pc quels paquets installés viennent de sid ou d'experimental. Je ne vois pas quel commande (apt ou dpkg...) utiliser. Quelqu'un aurait-il la réponse à cette question naïve ? Regarde apt-show-versions (il y a peut-être d'autres solutions). Oui, j'ai vu ça juste après avoir posé ma question. apt-show-versions fait tout à fait l'affaire. Merci. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/95bbd2509987ce84e4338bbd75b78...@tycho.fr
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Friday 23 January 2015 07:39:44 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] Wouldn't have the foggiest as the installer has never demonstrated to me that it knows about mice. You can tab cycle thru the options, and hit enter to do them. Not a huge fan of the 4 color ncurses screen obviously. That is what I got when I chose the graphical expert mode. Was I supposed to get something better? Thanks Darac. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501230748.47368.ghesk...@wdtv.com
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Alguem sabe como remover a mensagem shockwave flash has crashed que aparce no chrome? uso o debian whezzy -- Manoel
connaitre les paquets installés venant de sid et/ou experimental
Bonjour, Je cherche à connaître sur mon pc quels paquets installés viennent de sid ou d'experimental. Je ne vois pas quel commande (apt ou dpkg...) utiliser. Quelqu'un aurait-il la réponse à cette question naïve ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/3fabc317d3975922c334889b749c8...@tycho.fr
Re: Instalacion de debian en sparc
El Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:30:28 +, Romero, Fernando escribió: Lei este mismo que me estas pasando pero ya cuando le doy a la convinacion de teclas, ni bola pasa se detiene y queda ahí, nunca aparece el prompt le doy enter y se va al ALOM o al SO Si se va al alom prueba con esto otro: https://www.penrod.cc/how-do-boot-to-cdrom-on-a-sunfire-v240/ *** break - Will get you to a OK prompt. console -f - Will put you back to the console boot cdrom - Will get you booting on the CDROM *** Pues vaya con los Sun, qué puñeteros son :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.01.23.17.02...@gmail.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:52:16 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 01:15:25AM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 January 2015 19:58:51 Don Armstrong did opine And Gene did reply: On Tue, 20 Jan 2015, Gene Heskett wrote: and leave you with a miss-aligned disk that writes like its full of molsasses. Fdisk complains, gdisk will fix it, but what good does that do you when there is NO WAY AROUND the partitioner in the installer. Of course there is. In general, the partitioner can just use your existing partitions. If for some reason, you've partitioned your existing partitions in a way that it is unable to figure out, then you can just 1) use expert mode 2) skip the partitioner entirely 3) mount your partitions directly on /target, 4) continue with the install selecting the remaining steps manually in order without rerunning the partitioner. If you're still having trouble, the actual logs will be more helpful. See https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-mis cel laneous That is a decent writeup. Whats chances there is a printable .pdf of it someplace? Why need a pdf? You should be able to print from your browser or from a word processor in an office suite ( open office or libre office ) or from a light weight processor like abiword. Cheers, Gene Heskett The Brother supplied ppd's for my HL-3170CDW color laser do not strip and reformat html that well. It does quite well on most web jobs, like printing the order ack when I buy something online, but to do a web page is asking a bit much. I have done it, but it usually results in a trip up the hill to saw down some more dead trees to feed it. Thanks Bob. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150133.57982.ghesk...@wdtv.com
RE: Instalacion de debian en sparc
Ahí lo pude bootear, para poder tuve que seguir los pasos con el SO apagado. Gracias a todos, saludos De: Cristian Mitchell [mailto:mitchell6...@gmail.com] Enviado el: viernes, 23 de enero de 2015 02:46 p.m. Para: Lista Debian Asunto: Re: Instalacion de debian en sparc Silo tengo instalado en un sun la unica diferencia es que lo instale con pxe lo mas probavle es que la unidad de dvd este andando mal proba con una de portable El 23 de enero de 2015 9:41:44 a.m. GMT-03:00, Romero, Fernando from...@cferroviarios.com.armailto:from...@cferroviarios.com.ar escribió: Hola como estan, mi consulta es si alguien pudo instalar debían en un sparc? El servidor es un sunfire v240. No puedo conseguir que bootee desde el cdrom Saludos
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. More like meg sizes... I was thinking that. My ARM-based Archimedes of 1989 had a 40MB drive option, and my first PC in 1996 had a 1G drive, which was typical then. A fresh Windows 95 installation occupied about 25MB... and RiscOS in the 1989 Archimedes was a half-MB ROM. One-second boot. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123192118.30d63...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, have you? Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) No doubt long experienced drivers of horse drawn carriages thought that they were well qualified to drive an Alfa Romeo 6C at full speeed. Lisi Now be nice Lisi, I was trying to be. Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. Lisi In those days, and even yet in Amish country, the horse drawn carriage is the biggest traffic hazard extant. Horses occasionally think they know a better way. Raised on an Iowa farm, I learned 75 years ago that they are not the sharpest tack in the box. Never got the chance to drive a hot Alfa, but was invited to turn a Mercedes 300 SLR loose once, and found it was quite possible to run out of road by the time you snick it into 3rd gear. I had just repaired the radio in it. A Telefunkin of course. Gee, that was almost 60 years ago. In those days I thought nothing of going places sensible angels don't. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501231846.04099.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Squid y usos Horario
El día 22 de enero de 2015, 19:46, Frank Andres Sanchez Calzada frank...@cristino.azcuba.cu escribió: (recuperado de mi filtro... cuidadín dónde respondéis) El 2015-01-22 12:29, Camaleón escribió: El Thu, 22 Jan 2015 11:42:11 -0600, Frank Andres Sanchez Calzada escribió: Hola todos. Tengo el siguiente problema. El servidor del squid tiene la hora del sistema correctamente. Es el mismo servidor de correo (postfix), quien también tiene la hora correcta. Sin embargo, los mensajes del squid salen con 5 horas de adelanto. Alguien sabe la solución? Tendrás que especificar a qué mensajes de squid te refieres (¿mensajes web, de los informes...?) y configurar el servicio con la zona horaria correcta. Me refiero que la zona horaria tiene 5 horas de diferencia por ejemplo cuando no tienes acceso a una pagina web restringida a trabes de squid ahí es donde te pone Generado Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:45:05 GMT y son 1:45 PM Vale, entonces te refieres a los registro de Squid. Pues mira a ver qué tienes definido en la variable de logformat del archivo de configuración (squid.conf o como se llame), seguramente tengas que cambiar la hora GMT (tg) por la hora local (tl). http://www.squid-cache.org/Doc/config/logformat/ Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAKprTDE4Xuau3K_aeEBBBVL31ruiYu_m=e-z+4dppdtn+9f...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 18:42:59 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 12:48:47 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 07:39:44 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] Wouldn't have the foggiest as the installer has never demonstrated to me that it knows about mice. You can tab cycle thru the options, and hit enter to do them. Not a huge fan of the 4 color ncurses screen obviously. That is what I got when I chose the graphical expert mode. Was I supposed to get something better? You chose the *graphical* mode? Sorry, that never even ocurred to me! It should have. My bad. No wonder I couldn't make head or tail of what you were saying! He says he chose the graphical GTK mode mode. What he describes is the non-graphical mode. Either he hit the wrong key or he has found a bug, Repeating and describing the steps he took would be good. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/23012015185739.5ebbb2b05...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 14:07:30 Brian did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 22:33:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: The Brother supplied ppd's for my HL-3170CDW color laser do not strip and reformat html that well. It does quite well on most web jobs, like printing the order ack when I buy something online, but to do a web page is asking a bit much. I have done it, but it usually results in a trip up the hill to saw down some more dead trees to feed it. There isn't a PPD in existence which strips and reformats html. Even Alice would wonder about your statement. Whatever. Often images are replaced with the base 64 that generated them, at a huge waste of paper. Web composers ALWAYS waste a page putting their credits on a separate page etc. I once tried to print a web page that was 2 screens high, had to reboot to kill the job as it was then 10 pages of base64 on the output tray. But in fairness to Brother, that was when I was making one last attempt to use an Epson ink squirter, but at $100 to refill it every 200 pages, I got religion and bought a laser, 2 of them in fact. I will lay this problem entirely on the web composers desk, he has no clue about proper mimetyping. They don't care whether its rfc compliant or not as long as it works with their particular copy of exploder on a windows box. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501231435.57979.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 14:24:45 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 13:46:04 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) No doubt long experienced drivers of horse drawn carriages thought that they were well qualified to drive an Alfa Romeo 6C at full speeed. Lisi Now be nice Lisi, I was trying to be. Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. Lisi You are late to the party Lisi, and I still have several MFM interface 10 and 20 megabyte Tandon drives that did function the last time they were powered up. They were on my office CoCo3 when I was the CE at WDTV. My own first hard drive here at home, also on a coco3, was a 30 megger. No partitions needed there, but when we started using Amiga's for gfx at the tv station, we did partition them to separate the OS stuffs from the production stuff. That was in '87 or '88 IIRC. That goes a long way to solving the self-inflicted problem you wrote to -user about. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/23012015193856.484e20209...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On 01/23/2015 03:09 PM, Dom wrote: On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. More like meg sizes... I was thinking that. My ARM-based Archimedes of 1989 had a 40MB drive option, and my first PC in 1996 had a 1G drive, which was typical then. A fresh Windows 95 installation occupied about 25MB... and RiscOS in the 1989 Archimedes was a half-MB ROM. One-second boot. My Archimedes originally only had the 800MB floppy, then upgraded to a 20MB HDD and shortly after to a 105MB SCSI HDD. Then I upgraded my BBC B to a 42MB HDD :) Online Uncle Al once wrote that Canada was where all the 40 meg hard drives went. :) Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c2b1e2.5050...@gmail.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 22:33:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: The Brother supplied ppd's for my HL-3170CDW color laser do not strip and reformat html that well. It does quite well on most web jobs, like printing the order ack when I buy something online, but to do a web page is asking a bit much. I have done it, but it usually results in a trip up the hill to saw down some more dead trees to feed it. There isn't a PPD in existence which strips and reformats html. Even Alice would wonder about your statement. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/23012015190410.f296395c0...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 18:46:04 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, have you? Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) No doubt long experienced drivers of horse drawn carriages thought that they were well qualified to drive an Alfa Romeo 6C at full speeed. Lisi Now be nice Lisi, I was trying to be. Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. You don't have to be nice. It is sufficient to be correct and address technical matters based on their merits. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/23012015191012.9109e4dcf...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 13:46:04 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 23 January 2015 12:42:15 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 05:47:13 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, have you? Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) No doubt long experienced drivers of horse drawn carriages thought that they were well qualified to drive an Alfa Romeo 6C at full speeed. Lisi Now be nice Lisi, I was trying to be. Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. Lisi You are late to the party Lisi, and I still have several MFM interface 10 and 20 megabyte Tandon drives that did function the last time they were powered up. They were on my office CoCo3 when I was the CE at WDTV. My own first hard drive here at home, also on a coco3, was a 30 megger. No partitions needed there, but when we started using Amiga's for gfx at the tv station, we did partition them to separate the OS stuffs from the production stuff. That was in '87 or '88 IIRC. In those days, and even yet in Amish country, the horse drawn carriage is the biggest traffic hazard extant. Horses occasionally think they know a better way. Raised on an Iowa farm, I learned 75 years ago that they are not the sharpest tack in the box. Never got the chance to drive a hot Alfa, but was invited to turn a Mercedes 300 SLR loose once, and found it was quite possible to run out of road by the time you snick it into 3rd gear. I had just repaired the radio in it. A Telefunkin of course. Gee, that was almost 60 years ago. In those days I thought nothing of going places sensible angels don't. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501231424.45578.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 19:24:45 Gene Heskett wrote: You are late to the party Lisi, Sorry, Gene. I find you very hard to follow. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501232019.48059.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: SIOCDELRT, or: proper syntax to delete default route for an interface?
On 01/23/2015 04:05 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: Matt Ventura mattvent...@mattventura.net wrote: me@client:~$ date ; sudo route -n Thu Jan 22 11:48:48 EST 2015 Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 0.0.0.0 10.144.15.100 128.0.0.0 UG1 00 ppp0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 10.144.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 128.0.0.0 10.144.15.100 128.0.0.0 UG1 00 ppp0 134.67.15.3010.8.0.5255.255.255.255 UGH 1 00 tun0 Try it with 0.0.0.0 instead of default. I didn't notice that the netmask was 128.0.0.0 rather than 0.0.0.0. Not sure why it would do that or if that has some kind of special meaning. VPN clients normally use two routes as default route: 0.0.0.0/128.0.0.0(or 0.0.0.0/1) 128.0.0.0/128.0.0.0 (or 128.0.0.0/1) This way, the VPN client does not need to replace the existing default route. Because those two new route are more specific than 0/0, all packages are routed into the tunnel and not to the old default gateway. If the VPN client crashes (or the tunnel interfaces is removed) those two routes are automatically removed too and the old default route is active again. If the client replaced the old default route then you would be left with a system without any default route, because the new one would have been deleted together with the tunnel interface. Grüße, Sven. Well, that confirms my original suspicion. The F5 VPN is throwing its default route over the original one, and that's causing traffic to the OpenVPN server to try to route over the F5 VPN. Obviously this doesn't work because the traffic to the F5 VPN needs to go through the OpenVPN link, so it becomes circular. What you need to do is add a route, something like: route add external IP of OpenVPN server gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 so that the traffic to the OpenVPN server can be routed properly. Matt Ventura -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c2b359.7000...@mattventura.net
bash script para temporizador
Hola a todos, Quiero crear un bash script un poco especial. Tengo un HTPC en la habitacion, y lo que quiero es poder programar un temporizar desde el mando a distancia para dormir. Algo asi como: - si pulso una vez se apaga a los 30 minutos - si pulso dos veces se apaga a los 60 minutos - si pulso tres veces se cancela el apagado Para apagar el HTPC tengo un script apagar.sh que se encarga de apagar la pantalla, cerrar el reproductor y dejar el PC en suspension. En el mando a distancia tengo configurado una tecla para esto, asi que cada vez que pulso se ejecuta el script dormir.sh. ¿Alguien me puede dar alguna idea de como puedo hacer esto? He pensado hacerlo con cron o con sleep, pero no se si es lo correcto. ¿Existe algun comando que tenga un contador y ejecute un script cuando llegue a cero? ¿y que se pueda actualizar el contador? ¿y que se puede cancelar? Gracias por todo. Saludos. -- Josu Lazkano -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAL9G6WUek1SniG=ydanmhedbfckmmi9rgo_lsm5n2pftlds...@mail.gmail.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. More like meg sizes... I was thinking that. My ARM-based Archimedes of 1989 had a 40MB drive option, and my first PC in 1996 had a 1G drive, which was typical then. A fresh Windows 95 installation occupied about 25MB... and RiscOS in the 1989 Archimedes was a half-MB ROM. One-second boot. My Archimedes originally only had the 800MB floppy, then upgraded to a 20MB HDD and shortly after to a 105MB SCSI HDD. Then I upgraded my BBC B to a 42MB HDD :) -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c2aa8d.3020...@rpdom.net
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 14:35:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 14:07:30 Brian did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 22:33:57 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: The Brother supplied ppd's for my HL-3170CDW color laser do not strip and reformat html that well. It does quite well on most web jobs, like printing the order ack when I buy something online, but to do a web page is asking a bit much. I have done it, but it usually results in a trip up the hill to saw down some more dead trees to feed it. There isn't a PPD in existence which strips and reformats html. Even Alice would wonder about your statement. Whatever. Often images are replaced with the base 64 that generated them, There is no whatever about it. You are completely and utterly wrong in your view of what the printing system does. I wouldn't mind if you said Why's that, please explain or That looks interesting or I've never looked at it in that way before. Or even, You are mistaken. Here is why. Instead, you spout inconsequential historical generalities (which deserve to be snipped). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/23012015194917.e2cbeb37a...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Friday 23 January 2015 12:48:47 Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 23 January 2015 07:39:44 Darac Marjal did opine And Gene did reply: On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] Wouldn't have the foggiest as the installer has never demonstrated to me that it knows about mice. You can tab cycle thru the options, and hit enter to do them. Not a huge fan of the 4 color ncurses screen obviously. That is what I got when I chose the graphical expert mode. Was I supposed to get something better? You chose the *graphical* mode? Sorry, that never even ocurred to me! It should have. My bad. No wonder I couldn't make head or tail of what you were saying! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501231842.59064.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Touché. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. More like meg sizes... Cheers, Ron. -- Non omnia possumus omnes. -- Publius Vergilius Maro -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123160856.32cb2...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: bash script para temporizador
El viernes, 23 ene 2015, a las 20:27 horas (UTC+1), Josu Lazkano escribió: Hola a todos, Quiero crear un bash script un poco especial. Tengo un HTPC en la habitacion, y lo que quiero es poder programar un temporizar desde el mando a distancia para dormir. Algo asi como: - si pulso una vez se apaga a los 30 minutos - si pulso dos veces se apaga a los 60 minutos - si pulso tres veces se cancela el apagado Para apagar el HTPC tengo un script apagar.sh que se encarga de apagar la pantalla, cerrar el reproductor y dejar el PC en suspension. En el mando a distancia tengo configurado una tecla para esto, asi que cada vez que pulso se ejecuta el script dormir.sh. ¿Alguien me puede dar alguna idea de como puedo hacer esto? He pensado hacerlo con cron o con sleep, pero no se si es lo correcto. ¿Por qué no? ¿Existe algun comando que tenga un contador y ejecute un script cuando llegue a cero? ¿y que se pueda actualizar el contador? ¿y que se puede cancelar? Se me ocurre lo siguiente: Usa un script con sleep dentro de un bucle contador, trap para resetear la variable contador y kill para enviar señales. Gracias por todo. Saludos. Saludos. -- Manolo Díaz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123205035.464f5...@gmail.com
Re: Screwed up Jessie Gnome display, no vga - A Klutz Fix
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:32:42AM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: I'm using an old HP desktop, no hdmi. On bootup display is too wide in both console and Gnome displays. Monitor controls cannot correct this so I experimented with the display control in Gnome. Somehow I turned off the vga signal. If I restart gdm3 the Gnome login window appears but after login the screen goes black and the no vga message appears. Rebooting the computer gives the same result. Any suggestions of how to decover? Added a new user. The Gnome desktop starts normally when the new user logs in. The vga signal is still lost when the original user logs in. The key must be a stored gnome.session file for each user. It is not in the user's .config/gnome-session/saved-session directory. That directory is empty. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123153242.gb27...@tomgeorge.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123212822.ga29...@tomgeorge.info
Re: bash script para temporizador
2015-01-23 14:27 GMT-05:00 Josu Lazkano josu.lazk...@gmail.com: Hola a todos, Quiero crear un bash script un poco especial. Tengo un HTPC en la habitacion, y lo que quiero es poder programar un temporizar desde el mando a distancia para dormir. Algo asi como: - si pulso una vez se apaga a los 30 minutos - si pulso dos veces se apaga a los 60 minutos - si pulso tres veces se cancela el apagado Para apagar el HTPC tengo un script apagar.sh que se encarga de apagar la pantalla, cerrar el reproductor y dejar el PC en suspension. En el mando a distancia tengo configurado una tecla para esto, asi que cada vez que pulso se ejecuta el script dormir.sh. ¿Alguien me puede dar alguna idea de como puedo hacer esto? He pensado hacerlo con cron o con sleep, pero no se si es lo correcto. ¿Existe algun comando que tenga un contador y ejecute un script cuando llegue a cero? ¿y que se pueda actualizar el contador? ¿y que se puede cancelar? Lo que podrías hacer es guardar el estado en algún lado. Por ejemplo que tu script dormir chequee el archivo /tmp/dormir, si no existe escriba el número 1 en el archivo y mande a apagar dentro de 30 minutos. Si /tmp/dormir tiene un 1 que escriba 2 y mande a apagar dentro de 60 minutos. Si hay un 2, que borre el archivo y mate al script apagar.sh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAABYcjP=ub3FhTa9-cjwWNbb8+nb6-=zk__d5vvtq535mx3...@mail.gmail.com
Driver virtio win2003
Hola, Estoy intentando migrar un windows 2003 a una VM en KVM, pero estoy teniendo un buen dolor de cabeza con los driver de disco virtio. Ya he probado hacer varias iso con los driver para que me detecte los discos realizando instalaciones de prueba, pero no consigo lograrlo. Alguien a hecho esto alguna vez? -- Lacho:~# signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Impossible de se faire aider à partitionner le disque dur de 10 TO sur Lenovo Z50-70 pour installer Debian en plus de Windows 8
Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : 3 primaires, ce qui ne laisse plus que une primaire libre utilisée par conséquent comme étendue. Pas nécessairement. On peut aussi utiliser LVM pour créer autant de volumes logiques que nécessaire dans une seule partition. GRUB 2 sait très bien amorcer le noyau directement sur un volume LVM. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c2cafb.8080...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Driver virtio win2003
El 23 de enero de 2015, 7:57 p. m., Lachomarcoscapel...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, Estoy intentando migrar un windows 2003 a una VM en KVM, pero estoy teniendo un buen dolor de cabeza con los driver de disco virtio. Ya he probado hacer varias iso con los driver para que me detecte los discos realizando instalaciones de prueba, pero no consigo lograrlo. Alguien a hecho esto alguna vez? -- Lacho:~# SI, por que no escrivis el error que te da -- MrIX Linux user number 412793. http://counter.li.org/ las grandes obras, las sueñan los santos locos, las realizan los luchadores natos, las aprovechan los felices cuerdo, y las critican los inútiles crónicos,
Re: Minimal configuration for a laptop
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:19:02AM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 1/22/15, Jarle Aase j...@jgaa.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you look for an older laptop, Lenovo ThinkPad may be a good choise. The 12 models are relatively portable, and the build quality is fabulous. I've had my old X60T for about 9 years now, and it's still in daily use. I have changed the disk a few times, the fan once and the battery twice. Unfortunately, Lenovo does not support Linux as an option for the ThinkPad series. But all models I have came across works well with Debian and other distributions. (Watch out for the cheaper ThinkPade Edge series - I have some really bad experiences with some of those). Mine's Lenovo ThinkPad T61 secondhand. 15 (give or take). Have had it about a year and a half. I LOVE IT.. I also got a second-hand Thinkpad last month, a T400, and I love it too. I think it's from 2009 or 2010. Mine has an Intel core 2 duo CPU (P8400 @ 2.26GHz) and 4GB ram, but a slightly slower CPU and 2GB of ram would also be fine for web browsing and office stuff. However, I don't know how much memory freemind or other electronic design software uses, so I would recommend getting 4GB if you can. (The T400 is upgradable to 8GB. You might want to check the maximum memory capacity on laptops you're considering.) (BTW, for office and the web, even 1GB might work but it may be a little tight. Myolder laptop had 1GB ram and it didn't run out of memory often --- only when I had very many tabs open --- but the single-core Amd athlon xp 2200 @ 1.6GHz was slow. It was from 2004.) The hdd that came with the T400 seemed pretty fast (7200rpm) but I had an ssd in another laptop (not the one from 2004) running Debian that I just stuck into this and it worked. If you can get an ssd, I really recommend it because they're really really fast. My Kingston ssd with 120GB has worked fine for the past two-and-a-half years. Two features that I looked for in my Thinkpad were that the screen is matte (not shiny/glossy), and opens up to 180 degrees. I like to lay it upside down on the edge of the desk, with the screen sticking out, and I lie on the floor underneath it, with a usb keyboard on my belly. :) (My usb keyboard is also a thinkpad keyboard so it has a trackpoint and I don't need a mouse.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123210318.GA2269@side
Display in a console
When I boot my box, it starts with a normal display of 80 col x 25 lines, then the display changes and the characters become so small as to be illegible. Once in X, I also have the illegible small characters when I open a console with Alr-Ctrl-F1. Is there a way to stop this, and keep characters at a legible size in consoles ? Cheers, Ron. -- God, I wish ignorance was painful. -- James Knox -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123200417.46a53...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: Display in a console
Quoting Renaud OLGIATI (ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org): When I boot my box, it starts with a normal display of 80 col x 25 lines, then the display changes and the characters become so small as to be illegible. Once in X, I also have the illegible small characters when I open a console with Alr-Ctrl-F1. Is there a way to stop this, and keep characters at a legible size in consoles ? Here's my /etc/default/consolesetup which has a few character sizes that I can try out with setupcon. Then I leave it with the desired entry uncommented. # CONFIGURATION FILE FOR SETUPCON # Consult the console-setup(5) manual page. ACTIVE_CONSOLES=/dev/tty[1-6] CHARMAP=UTF-8 CODESET=Lat15 #FONTFACE=Fixed FONTFACE=Terminus FONTSIZE=8x16 FONTSIZE=10x20 FONTSIZE=12x24 #FONTSIZE=14x28 #FONTSIZE=16x32 VIDEOMODE= # The following is an example how to use a braille font # FONT='lat9w-08.psf.gz brl-8x8.psf' Cheers, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123233217.ga14...@alum.home
Re: SIOCDELRT, or: proper syntax to delete default route for an interface?
Matt Ventura mattvent...@mattventura.net wrote: On 01/23/2015 04:05 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: Matt Ventura mattvent...@mattventura.net wrote: Well, that confirms my original suspicion. The F5 VPN is throwing its default route over the original one, and that's causing traffic to the OpenVPN server to try to route over the F5 VPN. Obviously this doesn't work because the traffic to the F5 VPN needs to go through the OpenVPN link, so it becomes circular. What you need to do is add a route, something like: route add external IP of OpenVPN server gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 so that the traffic to the OpenVPN server can be routed properly. This then would complete the Trinity of VPN: one route 0/1, one route 128/1 and one host route to the other VPN endpoint so that it can be reached regardless of other routes. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/abb116082...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: network newbie seeks assistance debugging iptables for VPN tunnel
Back to this task after long detours! well, almost: Matt Ventura Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:47:21 -0800 [1] The F5 VPN is throwing its default route over the original one, and that's causing traffic to the OpenVPN server to try to route over the F5 VPN. Obviously this doesn't work because the traffic to the F5 VPN needs to go through the OpenVPN link, so it becomes circular. What you need to do is add a route, something like: route add external IP of OpenVPN server gw 192.168.1.1 dev eth0 so that the traffic to the OpenVPN server can be routed properly. Sven Hartge Fri, 23 Jan 2015 21:53:35 +0100 [2] (tweaked) That would complete the VPN Trinity: * one route 0/1 * one route 128/1 * one host route to the other VPN endpoint (making it reachable regardless of other routes) I will give that a shot ... after I take care of a bit more real life :-( Meanwhile, I have uploaded a new'n'improved client_networking_investigation.txt[3] (improved notably by my increasing facility with `ip` syntax). However it presently lacks - your routing advice above - scripting of connectivity checks (e.g., `ping`, `nslookup`) which I will add (feel free to suggest others). I'm especially interested in the 'zombie routes' (i.e., I del a route, it disappears from `ip route show`, then reappears later) and other network-restoration oddities I'm observing (see states 5-8[3]), so I'd be especially interested in knowing how to prevent that. (I suspect it's due to my crude manner of starting/stopping OpenVPN on the client, but ICBW.) Your assistance is appreciated! Tom Roche tom_ro...@pobox.com [1]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg00830.html [2]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg00831.html [3]: https://bitbucket.org/tlroche/linode_jumpbox_config/downloads/client_networking_investigation.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87egqlrx06@pobox.com
Re: Driver virtio win2003
Hola, No tengo error, simplemente no me detecta los discos. Pero si lo hace cuando utilizo IDE o SCSI. Que error pretendes que te indique? -- Lacho:~# signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Instalacion de debian en sparc
Hola como estan, mi consulta es si alguien pudo instalar debían en un sparc? El servidor es un sunfire v240. No puedo conseguir que bootee desde el cdrom Saludos
Re: Configuration minimal pour un laptop
Bonjour, Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 0:08, Gaël a écrit : Un PC avec µp Intel i3 ou AMD équivalent de gamme de départ, 4Go de RAM, carte graphique dédiée gamme départ. Tu es sérieux ? Ça dépend pas de ce qu'Alex veut comme interface. Avec Gnome ou KDE en effet les 4go de RAM feront plaisir, mais avec xfce ou mate, on baisse de beaucoup et j'ai plusieurs amis qui font tourner ça (pour le même usage) avec des vieux portables cadencés à 1ghz voire moins, et avec 512mo de ram. Ça passe. :) Je confirme, i3 (voire i7 comme lu par ailleurs) avec autant de RAM c'est disproportionné par rapport au besoin ! Pour ma part, je tourne sur un Core2 avec 2Go de RAM sans souci (si ce n'est les moments de surchauffe dus à la poussière qui s'accumule dans les ventilateurs). Dans mon entourage j'ai des P4 avec 256 à 512Mo qui fonctionnent plutôt bien. Le truc qui demande le plus de ressources alors, c'est firefox. Conseil si on a une petite machine : avoid firefox !! En remplacement on peut utiliser dwb, midori, et bien d'autres ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_lightweight_web_browsers#Operating_system_support d'ailleurs dans ce tableau je ne comprends pas pourquoi w3m est classé unofficial pour son support linux...) En effet, Midori est plus léger (comme d'autres également). On peut toutefois « optimiser » Firefox, j'ai notamment installé une extension qui « décharge » les onglets inutilisés. L'onglet est rechargé automatiquement quand on repasse dessus. Actuellement, j'ai 9 fenêtres ouvertes avec dans chacune jusqu'à 8 onglets et il consomme… 600Mo de RAM. Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123091104.gb14...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: Rsyslog front-end
Pessoal. Obrigado pelo feed back... Vou desenvolver algo em php mesmo. # A fé não da respostas, só impede as perguntas. .. http://www.atea.org.br # Em 22/01/2015 15:09, Rodrigo B Brasil rodrigobbra...@gmail.com escreveu: http://loganalyzer.adiscon.com/ Se nao me engano, e' do proprio mantenedor do pacote rsyslog. -- Rodrigo Bezerra Brasil Belém, PA, BR Controle é ilusão. 2015-01-22 12:30 GMT-03:00 Julio S. Peppe juliope...@gmail.com: Boa tarde, pessoal. ... Alguem conhece alguma ferramenta que faça busca e localização no mysql do meu rsyslog? Andei pesquisando mas só encontrei soluções pagas.. Estou querendo uma ferramenta gnu. Nativa no debian Ja possuo rsyslog e mysql funcionando. Preciso de uma interface que facilite a busca de logs dos meus routers no banco de dados mysql. Obrigado. ... # A fé não da respostas, só impede as perguntas. .. http://www.atea.org.br #
Re: Driver virtio win2003
es rarisimo por que despues de crear la imagen de disco y iniciar el kvm emula un disco ide basico con un controlador generico si podes ser mas espesifico re los pasos etc El 23 de enero de 2015, 8:27 p. m., Lachomarcoscapel...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, No tengo error, simplemente no me detecta los discos. Pero si lo hace cuando utilizo IDE o SCSI. Que error pretendes que te indique? -- Lacho:~# -- MrIX Linux user number 412793. http://counter.li.org/ las grandes obras, las sueñan los santos locos, las realizan los luchadores natos, las aprovechan los felices cuerdo, y las critican los inútiles crónicos,
Re: Display in a console
On Fri 23 Jan 2015 at 20:04:17 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: When I boot my box, it starts with a normal display of 80 col x 25 lines, then the display changes and the characters become so small as to be illegible. Once in X, I also have the illegible small characters when I open a console with Alr-Ctrl-F1. Is there a way to stop this, and keep characters at a legible size in consoles ? As root: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/24012015001242.008f312cb...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Impossible de se faire aider à partitionner le disque dur de 10 TO sur Lenovo Z50-70 pour installer Debian en plus de Windows 8
On 23/01/2015 23:50, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : 3 primaires, ce qui ne laisse plus que une primaire libre utilisée par conséquent comme étendue. Pas nécessairement. On peut aussi utiliser LVM pour créer autant de volumes logiques que nécessaire dans une seule partition. GRUB 2 sait très bien amorcer le noyau directement sur un volume LVM. Sans oublier btrfs et ses sous-volumes mais là je crois qu'il faut peut-être tweaker un peu un (récent) grub pour que ça boote. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c2e185$0$22040$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 15:19:48 Lisi Reisz did opine And Gene did reply: On Friday 23 January 2015 19:24:45 Gene Heskett wrote: You are late to the party Lisi, Sorry, Gene. I find you very hard to follow. Lisi Sorry Lisi. My arthritic fingers have slowed more than my brain, and they sometimes leave out half a sentence or more trying to play catchup. Makes a semi-usable excuse anyway. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501232114.51497.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Driver virtio win2003
Hola, En realidad no se si es rarisimo. Lei en varios foros/listas que es muy comun el error pero se suele solucionar agregando los driver de virtio en un disquete para poder cargarlos al inicio de la instalación (presionando F6...etc). Ahora por alguna razón que no estoy viendo, cuando uso los driver en un disquette no bootea directamente. IDE si funciona. Virtio NO. -- Lacho:~# signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
semi OT: batmon jessie
Buenas, lista, tengo instalado batmon en mi jessie. Todo funciona como deberia, tengo agregada una linea en el Autostart de openbox. Hasta aqui todo bien, el pequeño problema que tengo es el siguiente: Cuando lanza la aplicacion aparece el icono de la bateria con el respectivo avance de carga/descarga. Aparte del icono en si, me aparecen 2 ventanas que son Batmon y Battery Monitor, estas 2 las puedo ocultar. Ahora bien, el man no me da opcion para que solo aparezca el icono de la bateria (que es lo que deseo) y tampoco pude encontrar nada en la web Alguien tiene instalado el aplicativo? resumiendo: al lanzar quiero que solamente aparezca el icono de la bateria y no las 3 ventanas que se ejecutan. Saludos -- Windows? Reboot Debian? beRoot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CA+0kpa2krdQF6eM+d4b8eURWpUgkRzFCzROrbNy=occqpfb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 15:41:06 Ric Moore did opine And Gene did reply: On 01/23/2015 03:09 PM, Dom wrote: On 23/01/15 19:21, Joe wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 16:08:56 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org wrote: On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 18:46:04 + Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Touchأ©. :-( Yes, that wasn't very nice. But one can hardly compare 1985 with now! Hard drives were in single figure gig sizes. More like meg sizes... I was thinking that. My ARM-based Archimedes of 1989 had a 40MB drive option, and my first PC in 1996 had a 1G drive, which was typical then. A fresh Windows 95 installation occupied about 25MB... and RiscOS in the 1989 Archimedes was a half-MB ROM. One-second boot. My Archimedes originally only had the 800MB floppy, then upgraded to a 20MB HDD and shortly after to a 105MB SCSI HDD. Then I upgraded my BBC B to a 42MB HDD :) Online Uncle Al once wrote that Canada was where all the 40 meg hard drives went. :) Ric I don't recall that I ever had the experience of reading his output, Ric. How far back up the log was that? Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501232117.30912.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Unable to configure UPS options
Hello, I have two computers, both running Wheezy and the XFCE4 Desktop. Both have attached UPS devices, and lsusb shows the UPS attached to each machine. Yet, on one I have options to configure actions to take when on battery, and on the other I have no On Battery tab. I enabled the battery monitor plug-in in the notification area on both, and the problematic one shows only to be online (no battery present). I am looking for help to enable the battery option on the second machine so when the power goes off the system will shutdown or suspend to RAM at my choosing. I have compared installed packages between the two and see nothing significant. What would my next step be, please? Regards, Melvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cadgqn55gkvhnsj7tvmmynqjbjix8fgoc73_kap5wzyp8ryq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Minimal configuration for a laptop
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015, Selim T. Erdoğan wrote: On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:19:02AM -0500, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: On 1/22/15, Jarle Aase j...@jgaa.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 If you look for an older laptop, Lenovo ThinkPad may be a good choise. The 12 models are relatively portable, and the build quality is fabulous. I've had my old X60T for about 9 years now, and it's still in daily use. I have changed the disk a few times, the fan once and the battery twice. Unfortunately, Lenovo does not support Linux as an option for the ThinkPad series. But all models I have came across works well with Debian and other distributions. (Watch out for the cheaper ThinkPade Edge series - I have some really bad experiences with some of those). Mine's Lenovo ThinkPad T61 secondhand. 15 (give or take). Have had it about a year and a half. I LOVE IT.. I also got a second-hand Thinkpad last month, a T400, and I love it too. I think it's from 2009 or 2010. Mine has an Intel core 2 duo CPU (P8400 @ 2.26GHz) and 4GB ram, but a slightly slower CPU and 2GB of ram would also be fine for web browsing and office stuff. However, I don't know how much memory freemind or other electronic design software uses, so I would recommend getting 4GB if you can. (The T400 is upgradable to 8GB. You might want to check the maximum memory capacity on laptops you're considering.) (BTW, for office and the web, even 1GB might work but it may be a little tight. Myolder laptop had 1GB ram and it didn't run out of memory often --- only when I had very many tabs open --- but the single-core Amd athlon xp 2200 @ 1.6GHz was slow. It was from 2004.) How much RAM is sufficient depends more on the desktop GUI. For GNOME and KDE, I recommend 4GB at least. The system I'm using now has gone through multiple upgrades (hardware and OSes) since I built it in 2007 with a 2.0GHZ 64-bit single-core AMD CPU 2 GB RAM running Fedora 6, first 32-bit, then 64, and GNOME2. Even with just a browser, file manager, and a few applets running, it could be sluggish at times, particularly when accessing the menus. Upgrading to 4GB RAM solved all that. However, if using XFCE or LXDE or just a window manager, 1 or 2 GB RAM would be fine. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123175417.548e8...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: Configuration minimal pour un laptop
Bonjour, Le 23/01/2015 10:11, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Bonjour, Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 0:08, Gaël a écrit : Un PC avec µp Intel i3 ou AMD équivalent de gamme de départ, 4Go de RAM, carte graphique dédiée gamme départ. Tu es sérieux ? Ça dépend pas de ce qu'Alex veut comme interface. Avec Gnome ou KDE en effet les 4go de RAM feront plaisir, mais avec xfce ou mate, on baisse de beaucoup et j'ai plusieurs amis qui font tourner ça (pour le même usage) avec des vieux portables cadencés à 1ghz voire moins, et avec 512mo de ram. Ça passe. :) Je confirme, i3 (voire i7 comme lu par ailleurs) avec autant de RAM c'est disproportionné par rapport au besoin ! Pour ma part, je tourne sur un Core2 avec 2Go de RAM sans souci (si ce n'est les moments de surchauffe dus à la poussière qui s'accumule dans les ventilateurs). Dans mon entourage j'ai des P4 avec 256 à 512Mo qui fonctionnent plutôt bien. Le truc qui demande le plus de ressources alors, c'est firefox. Conseil si on a une petite machine : avoid firefox !! En remplacement on peut utiliser dwb, midori, et bien d'autres ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_lightweight_web_browsers#Operating_system_support d'ailleurs dans ce tableau je ne comprends pas pourquoi w3m est classé unofficial pour son support linux...) En effet, Midori est plus léger (comme d'autres également). On peut toutefois « optimiser » Firefox, j'ai notamment installé une extension qui « décharge » les onglets inutilisés. L'onglet est rechargé automatiquement quand on repasse dessus. Actuellement, j'ai 9 fenêtres ouvertes avec dans chacune jusqu'à 8 onglets et il consomme… 600Mo de RAM. Seb Quel est le nom de cette extension s'il vous plaît ? cela m' interesse. -- Guillaume -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c211ee.1060...@gwilhom.fr
Re: Configuration minimal pour un laptop
Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 10:18, Guillaume a écrit : On peut toutefois « optimiser » Firefox, j'ai notamment installé une extension qui « décharge » les onglets inutilisés. L'onglet est rechargé automatiquement quand on repasse dessus. Actuellement, j'ai 9 fenêtres ouvertes avec dans chacune jusqu'à 8 onglets et il consomme… 600Mo de RAM. Quel est le nom de cette extension s'il vous plaît ? cela m' interesse. Il en existe plusieurs, j'utilise UnloadTab : https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/unloadtab/ Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123093916.gc14...@sebian.nob900.homeip.net
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 07:26:02PM +, Brian wrote: On Thu 22 Jan 2015 at 13:31:36 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 09:42:13 Gary Dale did opine 50G for swap?! The partitioner that sets this up previously setup a bit over 2x the memory, 18Gb for swap, then surveyed the system and found 2 more swaps, dutifully adding then to the /etc/fstab it wrote. So at that point I had nearly 50Gb of swap available in 3 pieces/drives. dutifully means d-i did what you told it to do. You could tell it not to use some partitions. You can even tell it how much swap to use. You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, have you? [Snip] Removing the boot partition removes the guarantee that boot related files will be within reach of the bios. However, 50Gb is out of line as I have been using 1Gb for years, which has all sorts of cruft I haven't used in yonks in it. So I'll likely fix that and slide the rest of it back out before I put another install disk in the optical drive. I wish I could understood this; particularly the first sentence. BIOS has numerous limits on how far into the disk the first sector can tell it to jump to find the OS. If the first sector tells the BIOS that the bootloader is beyond what the BIOS can address, then the computer is unbootable. One solution to this is to have a small /boot partition near the start of the disk to hold the bootloader files. The bootloader can then use the full capabilities of the system to search deeper into the disk. Another alternative is to use an intermediate loader, store that in the pre-partition gap at the start of the disk and then use that to find the full bootloader. This is what grub does. Stage 1 is the BIOS-limited first sector. Stage 1.5 is stored in the ~1Mb gap before the first sector and Stage 2 is stored in /boot. As a result, grub can, in theory, boot a single-partition OS, even if the /boot files are several terabytes down the disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/22012015191626.e039c4128...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Indisponibilidad del servidor ftp.es.debian.org (previsto sólo hoy)
On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:13:04PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: Buenos días, Hoy, por cambios en el CPD donde está alojado, el servidor que provee de la réplica de Debian en España (ftp.es.debian.org) no está operativo. (..) El servicio ya está restaurado, aquellos que hayan cambiado su /etc/apt/sources.list pueden deshacer el cambio. Si observáis cualquier anomalía en el servicio de réplica, por favor, poneros en contacto conmigo. Un saludo y, de nuevo, disculpad las molestias, Javier Fernández-Sanguino signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: SIOCDELRT, or: proper syntax to delete default route for an interface?
Matt Ventura mattvent...@mattventura.net wrote: me@client:~$ date ; sudo route -n Thu Jan 22 11:48:48 EST 2015 Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 0.0.0.0 10.144.15.100 128.0.0.0 UG1 00 ppp0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 10.144.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 ppp0 128.0.0.0 10.144.15.100 128.0.0.0 UG1 00 ppp0 134.67.15.3010.8.0.5255.255.255.255 UGH 1 00 tun0 Try it with 0.0.0.0 instead of default. I didn't notice that the netmask was 128.0.0.0 rather than 0.0.0.0. Not sure why it would do that or if that has some kind of special meaning. VPN clients normally use two routes as default route: 0.0.0.0/128.0.0.0(or 0.0.0.0/1) 128.0.0.0/128.0.0.0 (or 128.0.0.0/1) This way, the VPN client does not need to replace the existing default route. Because those two new route are more specific than 0/0, all packages are routed into the tunnel and not to the old default gateway. If the VPN client crashes (or the tunnel interfaces is removed) those two routes are automatically removed too and the old default route is active again. If the client replaced the old default route then you would be left with a system without any default route, because the new one would have been deleted together with the tunnel interface. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/7bb023u82...@mids.svenhartge.de
Re: Unable to configure UPS options
On 24/01/2015 03:50, Melvin Call wrote: Hello, I have two computers, both running Wheezy and the XFCE4 Desktop. Both have attached UPS devices, and lsusb shows the UPS attached to each machine. Yet, on one I have options to configure actions to take when on battery, and on the other I have no On Battery tab. I enabled the battery monitor plug-in in the notification area on both, and the problematic one shows only to be online (no battery present). I am looking for help to enable the battery option on the second machine so when the power goes off the system will shutdown or suspend to RAM at my choosing. I have compared installed packages between the two and see nothing significant. What would my next step be, please? Regards, Melvin Hi Melvin, You can use: $ acpi --battery to get battery information. You can create a udev rule to trigger (for example) a suspend to RAM (/usr/sbin/pm-suspend) when the battery is unplugged or below a limit. I can lead you to information about that if you are interested. Apart form this I have no clue about the xfce widget (I'm not on a laptop) but you could try some of the xfce4-power-* commands: $ xfce4-power-information $ xfce4-power-manager $ xfce4-power-manager-settings And of course, continue to investigate differences (maybe in /etc or in ~/.local) between your 2 computers, that's a good idea! Cheers, -- mrr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c337ad$0$2882$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Recording sound from a web page
On 01/19/2015 12:15 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2015-01-18, Marc Shapiro marcns...@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to record sound that is playing in firefox, or chrome. I am
using Audacity 2.0.1 on Wheezy. I am trying to find an input device
that gets the sound straight from the browser output. I can plug in a
patch cord from speaker to mic and record that way, but I am getting a
clicking in the background that I can't seem to get rid of. I would
prefer if Audacity simply used the speaker output directly without a
patch cord. Is there a way to do this? I tried VLC (version 2.0.6) but
had no luck finding the desired input there, either. Is there some
other package that will do this better?
Marc
There is a way to record whatever goes through the sound card. I have
done so in the past. The exact procedure might depend on your specific
card. In my case it involved setting the correct capture device in
alsamixer (was it the Mix device as detailed at the link below?--don't
remember).
In any case, the following page goes through a slew of possibilities:
http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/tutorial_recording_computer_playback_on_linux.html
Good luck and happy listening.
First: Thank you to everyone who answered my initial question.
Quite a few people have given me tips, or web pages to look at, so I
don't remember just where this one came from, but it ALMOST works.
---
pcm.!default {
type plug
slave.pcm loop
}
# output device
pcm.loopout {
type dmix
ipc_key 328211
slave.pcm hw:Loopback,0,0
}
# input device
pcm.loopin {
type dsnoop
ipc_key 686592
slave.pcm hw:Loopback,1,0
}
# duplex plug device
pcm.loop {
type plug
slave {
pcm {
type asym
playback.pcm loopout
capture.pcm loopin
}
}
}
With the above as my .asoundrc file I can use a command such as:
arecord -f cd -D loop -d 1800 test
and I get 30 minutes of recording. The only problem is that I don't
hear anything. The sound gets sent to the loopback device, but not to
the speakers. I had thought that this would send the sound to both
places, but apparently I was wrong. This means that once I am through
recording, I have to remove, or rename the .asoundrc file so that I can
actually get sound from the speakers. Can anyone tell me how to modify
the above file so that the captured sound data is sent to the speakers,
as well as the loopback device?
Marc
Re: upgrade kernel
On 16/01/2015 17:50, Marc Auslander wrote: Pol Hallen de...@fuckaround.org writes: Hi folks! a security updates of kernel is available (from apt-get upgrade), so: must I reboot my pc (after upgrade) to avoid security problems? Is there another way? thanks for help! Pol I always reboot after a kernel related upgrade on the grounds that if something goes wrong, I want to know about it right now. The alternative is that sometime in the future, a scheduled or unscheduled reboot leads to trouble and you have no idea what caused it! I saw somewhere during kernel compilation an option to load a kernel on the fly but I haven't gone further (maybe it was targeted at kernel developers). So usually, you do reboot after a kernel upgrade if you want to run the new one. It's the only occasion (I hope systemd hasn't changed that!) when an upgrade needs a reboot (or am I wrong?). Sometimes though you need a simple log out / log in. Cheers, -- mrr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c33aa9$0$2127$426a3...@news.free.fr
Re: How to set up GDM3 for multihead?
Ping. Any thoughts on the below? Does GDM3 actually not support multihead X? If it does, is there any documentation (by which i mean: not the source itself) to describe how to set it up for multihead X? Alexis writes: Hi all, Context: Debian Wheezy x86_64 + all available updates. Some software i'm developing requires me to test it under multiple desktop environments. To that end, i want to have a multihead X setup: i want my usual i3-based desktop environment on VT7, but then have GDM3 greeters available on VT8 and VT9, accessible via Ctrl-Alt-F8 and Ctrl-Alt-F9, which i can use to log in to other desktop environments, as users other than myself, whilst keeping my i3 session visible on VT7. The relevant GDM documentation: https://help.gnome.org/admin/gdm/3.4/gdm.html seems to me to imply that this is possible, but doesn't describe how. After doing some Web searches, i tried modifying /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf to include either: [servers] 0=Standard 1=Standard 2=Standard or [servers] 0=Standard device=/dev/tty7 1=Standard device=/dev/tty8 2=Standard device=/dev/tty9 but neither change made GDM3 greeters available on VT8 or VT9. (Although i also note that trying to hide a particular non-system user, call them 'testuser', from the face browser in the greeter via: [greeter] # Only include selected logins in the greeter Include = alexis Exclude = bin,root,daemon,adm,lp,sync,shutdown,halt,mail,news,uucp,operator,nobody,nobody4,noaccess,postgres,pvm,rpm,nfsnobody,pcap,testuser has no effect, so maybe i'm modifying the wrong config file?) Having spent a couple of hours trying to solve this issue, i installed KDM and discovered i can achieve the desired result with KDM with a single line: StaticServers=:0,:1,:2 i'm happy to use KDM as my login manager, but now i'm curious: is the setup i want possible with GDM3? Alexis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/877fwcekll@gmail.com
squeeze lts
I'm getting messages like this: W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/squeeze/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz Unable to connect to http.debian.net:http: [IP: 198.52.129.244 80] Is there trouble at Squeeze LTS? I didn't see these right after LTS started. I do get email from apticron from time to time about updates, so it's not completely dead. But I wonder what these mean, and if I might be missing some updates. -- Glenn English -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/d0dd7556-707b-45f4-b4e8-6fed15e29...@slsware.net
Re: Configuration minimal pour un laptop
J'utilise un Toshiba R500 http://www.toshiba.fr/discontinued-products/portege-r500-110/ de 2008, c'est un ultraportable de 12 avec un processeur Intel U7600 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-2-Duo-U7600-Notebook-Processor.118186.0.html qui est un CORE 2 DUO en basse consommation, il n'est plus classé dans le comparatif de NoteBookcheck http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html, mais il était resté longtemps comme un bon proc... Le PC a 2Go de RAM, il avait un DD de 160Go remplacé, il y a un mois, par un SSD 500Go (Samsung 840 EVO). Je fais tourner dessus un Xubuntu 14.04, pas plus léger qu'une Debian avec XFCE. Mes besoins sont similaires aux votres. La machine tourne nickel, je boot en 30 secondes (45s avec le DD) ; les seuls freeze de la machine sont l'objet de firefox, il suffit s'attendre que la cause (script, gestion mémoire ?) provoque le plantage du container plug-in (2 à 5 mn) pour répartir comme si de rien n'était. (J'ai pas beaucoup testé, mais à priori MIDORI=Firefox) Par ailleurs, j'ai offert à mon fils pour ces études (informatiques), en 2010, un ASUS X77JQ http://www.laptopspirit.fr/63682/asus-x77jq-ty007v-a-999e-core-i7-720qm-radeon-hd5730-et-640-go-173-pouces.html, c'est une bête de course, il a dessus 4 à 5 distrib en permanence, en a essayé pas mal (et c'est Debian qu'il préfère), et sous Linux, y'a pas grands chose qui tourne pas ou mal sur ce genre de config. Donc voilà, en résumé, je regarderais pour une machine avec proc i7 (2008) et carte graphique selon besoins, pour avoir un PC occasion haut-de-gamme. En MP, je peux fournir le benchmarck 2011 de NoteBookcheck http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmarklist.2436.0.html en CPU et GPU , j'avais fait en des comparatifs de PC portables pour des amis. Voici quelques lignes d'exemples : nos Model CodenameSeries L2 Cache + L3 Cache TDP (Watt) MHz - turbo_mhz 3DMark06 CPU 1 Intel Core i7-990X EE GulftownCore i7 (Desktop) 1.5MB + 12MB 130 3467 - 3733 32 432 6 967 2 Intel Core i7 (Desktop) 980X EE GulftownCore i7 (Desktop) 1.5MB + 12MB130 - 3600 32 432 7 122 3 Intel Core i7 (Desktop) 2600K Sandy BridgeCore i7 (Desktop) 1MB + 8MB 95 3400 - 3800 32 134 6 629 4 Intel Core i7 (Desktop) 975 Bloomfield Core i7 (Desktop) 1MB + 8MB 130 - 3600 45 715 5 836 5 Intel Core i5 (Desktop) 2500K Sandy BridgeCore i5 (Desktop) 1MB + 6MB 95 3300 - 3700 32 134 5 853 6 Intel Core i7 2920XMSandy BridgeCore i7 512KB + 8MB 55 2500 - 350032 131 5 944 7 Intel Core i5 (Desktop) 2400Sandy BridgeCore i5 (Desktop) 1MB + 6MB 95 3100 - 3400 32 134 5 715 8 Intel Core i7 (Desktop) 960 Bloomfield Core i7 (Desktop) 1MB + 8MB 130 3200 - 3466 45 715 5 360 GPU Pos Model CodenamePixels Shaders Vertex Sh. Gravue Age NbJ 3DMark053DMark06 1 VIDIA GeForce GTX 590 GF110 1 024 11 40 54 2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 GF110 512 11 40 189 28 292 21 429 3 AMD Radeon HD 6970 Cayman 1 536 11 40 153 31 580 24 035 4 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 GF110 480 11 40 161 32 271 21 006 5 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 GF100 480 11 40 161 32 190 23 824 6 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 485M SLI Fermi 768 11 40 131 29 690 23 415 Pierre Le 22/01/2015 18:39, Alex PADOLY a écrit : Bonsoir à tous, Quel est selon vous la configuration minimal pour faire fonctionner l'actuelle distribution Debian (version stable) sur un ordinateur portable destiné principalement aux activités suivantes: - usage bureautique - navigation intenet, transfert de fichiers ftp, - utilisation de vlc pour lice des fichiers mp3 et regarder occasionnellement des films - utilisation de logiciels de simulation électronique (geda, kicad, Xcircuit) - utilisation freemind Enfin connaissez des modèles d'ordinateur portable très haut de gamme de 2007, 2008,2009 et 2010, j'entends par très haut de gamme des ordinateur portable dont le prix de vente commençaient à partir de 2000 Euros. Merci beaucoup! -- Pro. Signature Pierre Touzeau -- Chargé de mission / Préfecture de region Basse-Normandie SGAR/rue Daniel HUET/14038 CAEN CEDEX/Tel: +33 231 306 306 pierre.touz...@basse-normandie.pref.gouv.fr / Fax: ... 564 --
Re: Configuration minimal pour un laptop
On Friday 23 January 2015 00:08:59 Gaël wrote: ordinateur portable destiné principalement aux activités suivantes: - usage bureautique - navigation intenet, transfert de fichiers ftp, - utilisation de vlc pour lice des fichiers mp3 et regarder - occasionnellement des films - utilisation de logiciels de simulation électronique (geda, kicad, Xcircuit) - utilisation freemind Un PC avec µp Intel i3 ou AMD équivalent de gamme de départ, 4Go de RAM, carte graphique dédiée gamme départ. Tu es sérieux ? : Ma configuration était plutôt celle d'un portable sous Windows :-), Tant mieux si on peut avoir une configuration beaucoup plus modeste sous Linux, tout en ayant de très bons résultats avec un coût modéré. André Ça dépend pas de ce qu'Alex veut comme interface. Avec Gnome ou KDE en effet les 4go de RAM feront plaisir, mais avec xfce ou mate, on baisse de beaucoup et j'ai plusieurs amis qui font tourner ça (pour le même usage) avec des vieux portables cadencés à 1ghz voire moins, et avec 512mo de ram. Ça passe. :) Le truc qui demande le plus de ressources alors, c'est firefox. Conseil si on a une petite machine : avoid firefox !! En remplacement on peut utiliser dwb, midori, et bien d'autres ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_lightweight_web_browsers#Operati ng_system_support d'ailleurs dans ce tableau je ne comprends pas pourquoi w3m est classé unofficial pour son support linux...) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501231101.51588.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: So much for a wheezy install, massive fail
On Friday 23 January 2015 03:25:42 Gene Heskett wrote: You haven't a clue what you are doing when you are partitioning, have you? Not really, I have only been doing it since 1985 or 6. :) No doubt long experienced drivers of horse drawn carriages thought that they were well qualified to drive an Alfa Romeo 6C at full speeed. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201501231047.13830.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Configuration minimal pour un laptop
Salut, On peut toutefois optimiser Firefox, j'ai notamment installé une extension qui décharge les onglets inutilisés. L'onglet est rechargé automatiquement quand on repasse dessus. https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/unloadtab/ Merci, je vais tester ! Actuellement, j'ai 9 fenêtres ouvertes avec dans chacune jusqu'à 8 onglets et il consomme... 600Mo de RAM. J'ai une fenêtre d'ouverte, avec environ 180 onglets (mais seulement une quinzaine dont la page est chargée : je viens d'ouvrir firefox), et en RAM firefox utilise VIRT:1295, RES:649 Ça pique. Je voudrais tant arrêter d'utiliser FF, mais y'a rien d'aussi bien !!! Ah tiens c'est marrant, je viens de me rendre compte que je suis sous arch en fait là, et plus sous debian comme avant (pour mon laptop en tous cas. les serveurs restent sous debian of course!) bonne journée! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAGKqBrkNBdZ+ejFw70EFxvykMpPz_LRcm=VETbu5Ay=kkp-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Configuration minimal pour un laptop
Le 23/01/2015 10:39, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : Le vendredi 23 janvier 2015 à 10:18, Guillaume a écrit : On peut toutefois « optimiser » Firefox, j'ai notamment installé une extension qui « décharge » les onglets inutilisés. L'onglet est rechargé automatiquement quand on repasse dessus. Actuellement, j'ai 9 fenêtres ouvertes avec dans chacune jusqu'à 8 onglets et il consomme… 600Mo de RAM. Quel est le nom de cette extension s'il vous plaît ? cela m' interesse. Il en existe plusieurs, j'utilise UnloadTab : https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/unloadtab/ Seb Merci, je vais tester ça. -- Guillaume -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c220be.6040...@gwilhom.fr
Indisponibilidad del servidor ftp.es.debian.org (previsto sólo hoy)
Buenos días, Hoy, por cambios en el CPD donde está alojado, el servidor que provee de la réplica de Debian en España (ftp.es.debian.org) no está operativo. Desafortunadamente, no ha habido tiempo de hacer los cambios en el DNS para que el apagado del servidor sea transparente a los usuarios de esta réplica. Durante el día de hoy el servidor debería estar de nuevo operativo pero se recomienda a aquellos usuarios de esta réplica que, temporalmente, utilice otra réplica oficial (p.ej. ftp.de.debian.org) si necesitan actualizar sus equipos o descargar nuevos programas. Disculpad las molestias, Javier Fernández-Sanguino signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Instalacion de debian en sparc
El Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:41:44 +, Romero, Fernando escribió: Hola como estan, Con tanto html, mal :-( mi consulta es si alguien pudo instalar debían en un sparc? Hombre, pues espero que sí, de lo contrario no tendría sentido que hubiera un puerto para esa arquitectura :-) El servidor es un sunfire v240. No puedo conseguir que bootee desde el cdrom Pocos datos das pero puedes empezar por aquí: Instalar Debian Wheezy en servidor Sparc (Sunfire v240) https://franciscojvasquezg.wordpress.com/2014/11/09/instalar-debian-wheezy-en-servidor-sparc-sunfire-v240/ Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.01.23.14.58...@gmail.com
Re: Screwed up Jessie Gnome display, no vga
On 23/01/15 10:32 AM, Thomas H. George wrote: I'm using an old HP desktop, no hdmi. On bootup display is too wide in both console and Gnome displays. Monitor controls cannot correct this so I experimented with the display control in Gnome. Somehow I turned off the vga signal. If I restart gdm3 the Gnome login window appears but after login the screen goes black and the no vga message appears. Rebooting the computer gives the same result. Any suggestions of how to decover? Boot to single-user mode. Enter the root password when asked. Then run X --configure. This should generate an xorg.conf file that you can review/edit then put in /etc/X11. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/54c273ba.6060...@torfree.net
RE: Instalacion de debian en sparc
Sale en html? No lo tengo configurado asi. Lo que no consigo es que bootee desde el ALOM el cdrom y mucha info sobre eso no encontré. Voy a seguir el link que me pasaste, gracias -Mensaje original- De: Camaleón [mailto:noela...@gmail.com] Enviado el: viernes, 23 de enero de 2015 11:59 a.m. Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Asunto: Re: Instalacion de debian en sparc El Fri, 23 Jan 2015 12:41:44 +, Romero, Fernando escribió: Hola como estan, Con tanto html, mal :-( mi consulta es si alguien pudo instalar debían en un sparc? Hombre, pues espero que sí, de lo contrario no tendría sentido que hubiera un puerto para esa arquitectura :-) El servidor es un sunfire v240. No puedo conseguir que bootee desde el cdrom Pocos datos das pero puedes empezar por aquí: Instalar Debian Wheezy en servidor Sparc (Sunfire v240) https://franciscojvasquezg.wordpress.com/2014/11/09/instalar-debian-wheezy-en-servidor-sparc-sunfire-v240/ Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/pan.2015.01.23.14.58...@gmail.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Nor can you skip the partitioner and go straight to the format install pages. I swear can hear it chuckling as it bounces me back to do it wrong partitioner. Of course you can. If you're still having trouble, actual logs and/or screenshots would be useful. First, the survival of the log depends on the success of the install, no install=no logs even if I knew where they were kept. An option to save the logs on a DIFFERENT drive would be most helpful. And AFAIK, image attachments are not allowed by the server, so what good would it do me to take some pix and try to post them? That's what pastebins are for. Run a search if you have a useable computer. If not, you're hosed. ...snip... I am hosed. And downloading an arch based install as we speak. :) Thanks Bob. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene US V Castleman, SCOTUS, Mar 2014 is grounds for Impeaching SCOTUS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150129.07019.ghesk...@wdtv.com
Re: Wheezy is installed, blowed up 2 minutes later.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:29:06PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 22 January 2015 14:50:43 Bob Holtzman did opine And Gene did reply: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 03:05:23PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: ..snip.. Even in the expert AND manual modes, and I am getting tired of repeating this, you cannot modify the do not Use other than the color of the text. How are you highliteing the do not use item? with the mouse? If so, *wrong*. What mouse? NCurses doesn't know about mice. Never did, likely never will. Then what are the mousemask(), KEY_MOUSE and get_mouse() etc. all about? [cut] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Screwed up Jessie Gnome display, no vga
I'm using an old HP desktop, no hdmi. On bootup display is too wide in both console and Gnome displays. Monitor controls cannot correct this so I experimented with the display control in Gnome. Somehow I turned off the vga signal. If I restart gdm3 the Gnome login window appears but after login the screen goes black and the no vga message appears. Rebooting the computer gives the same result. Any suggestions of how to decover? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150123153242.gb27...@tomgeorge.info
