Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Frédéric Marchal
2015-07-21 18:28 GMT+02:00 Martin Skjöldebrand :
>
> Quoting Erick Ocrospoma :
>
> And the only half helpful suggestion from the hosting was running in single
> mode from grub, but the disk is mounted at that time. Else to rollback a
> snapshot of the server which would mean hours of reconfiguration which I am
> hoping to avoid.

It may be possible to run fsck in single mode. Remount the root
partition in read-only mode:

mount -o remount,ro /

If it fails due to open files, find the daemons opening files for
writing on the root partition and terminate them (or kill -9 if
necessary).

Lsof may help you find what daemon has open files but last time I
tried, it was simpler to run ps aux and kill what obviously was a
logger of some sort and it was enough to remount the partition in read
only mode.

Then run fsck.

Frederic


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No sound in Debian 8 'jessie' Xfce on Youtube

2015-07-21 Thread Muntasim Ul Haque

Hi,
I have had problems with Debian 8 'jessie' Xfce edition. I didn't get 
any sound initially. Then after 'some' configuration, I got sound 
working. But sound related problems were still there. When I plug-in the 
headphone I got no sound. Then I have to re-adjust using 'pavucontrol' 
and 'alsamixer'. And the main problem was with Youtube videos. I thought 
that was because I don't have Flash player installed and I don't want 
to. But then I tried Debian jessie GNOME and everything was working 
fine. Even the Youtube video's sound. So what's the deal with Xfce? Why 
there was no sound on YouTube? And why I had to configure every time I 
switch from and to headphone and speaker?


With thanks,
Muntasim Ul Haque


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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand


Quoting Jape Person :


Not sure this will be at all helpful considering that the consensus  
seems to be that fsck is probably not what you need right now. I  
just wanted to be sure that you got some sort of answer regarding  
the running of systemd-fsck.


You should be able to see the result of an fsck run with

$ cat /run/initramfs/fsck.log

I use

# tune2fs -c -1 /dev/sda1

to set the system to prevent a full fsck from running at boot time

and

# tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sda1

to cause the system to force a full fsck during the next boot.


Ah brilliant, thanks. I notice a few line like
/dev/vda1: Clearing orphaned inode 94755 (uid=106, gid=111,  
mode=0100600, size=0)
/dev/vda1: Clearing orphaned inode 90459 (uid=106, gid=111,  
mode=0100600, size=0)


but I really can't see this causing catastrophic server crashes if unfixed.

/Martin S


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Re: Wireless disabled in Debian after MacOS use (stuck)

2015-07-21 Thread Seeker



On 7/21/2015 5:04 PM, Michael Bonert wrote:

I solved the problem!  I was reading the Network Manager how to -- that
is found here: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager

This is what I did:
**

# vi /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
-IT WAS
[ifupdown]
managed=false
-CHANGED TO
[ifupdown]
managed=true
---

# /etc/init.d/network-manager restart

**


I am still baffled about why this happened.  It doesn't make sense to me!

Any how, I hope if someone else encounters wireless problems with the
Broadcom driver ( b43 ) ... my list of things to try
( https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/07/msg00947.html ) is useful.

Michael



Do you have the card set up in /etc/network/interfaces ?

In theory, the managed setting of network manager should only make a 
difference
if there is configuration in /etc/network/interfaces for the interface 
in question.


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Re: mplayer "Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file"

2015-07-21 Thread Emanuel Berg
I managed to solve this with the help of the people on
gmane.comp.video.mplayer.user - with the option
'-vo xv' to mplayer (mplayer1) the error message
disappears with no loss of functionality or undesired
side-effects to it.

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Wireless disabled in Debian after MacOS use (stuck)

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Bonert

I solved the problem!  I was reading the Network Manager how to -- that
is found here: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager

This is what I did:
**

# vi /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf
-IT WAS
[ifupdown]
managed=false
-CHANGED TO
[ifupdown]
managed=true
---

# /etc/init.d/network-manager restart

**


I am still baffled about why this happened.  It doesn't make sense to me!

Any how, I hope if someone else encounters wireless problems with the
Broadcom driver ( b43 ) ... my list of things to try
( https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/07/msg00947.html ) is useful.

Michael


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Re: auto-mount NFS shares on boot

2015-07-21 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi,

On 07/16/2015 09:04 AM, n n wrote:
> trying to mount nfs-shares at boot I have exactly the problem mentioned by 
> Christian:
> (in Message-id: <558e8105.5030...@iwakd.de>)
> 
>>   - On some systems with static IP addresses (and
>> /etc/network/interfaces), I had the problem that even though the
>> interface was conisdered up and ready by the kernel, the switch it
>> was connected to needed 30s or so to realize that fully (and
>> packets were simply dropped beforehand). Since those systems also
>> needed to mount NFS...
> 
> Christian then recommends applying a unit he calls wait-for-nfs-server.
> 
> My problem now is that if I apply that unit (or do other tricks like a sleep 
> in
> /etc/network/interfaces the mounts are there after booting, but I have errors
> like that in journalctl:
> 
> Jul 14 16:07:02 hhh rpcbind[657]: Starting rpcbind daemon
> Jul 14 16:07:02 hhh rpc.statd[681]: Version 1.2.8 starting
> Jul 14 16:07:02 hhh rpc.statd[681]: Flags: TI-RPC
> Jul 14 16:07:02 hhh rpc.statd[682]: Version 1.2.8 starting
> Jul 14 16:07:02 hhh rpc.statd[682]: Flags: TI-RPC
> Jul 14 16:07:02 hhh rpc.statd[683]: Version 1.2.8 starting
> Jul 14 16:07:02 hhh sm-notify[684]: Version 1.2.8 starting
> [...]
> So, rpc.statd is there, but why with the --no-notify option?
> 
> To me it looks like rpc.statd gets started multiple times (why?) and
> that confuses me and the whole nfs mount process.

Ok, so in your case you're also running into the same bug [1] of this
very same thread, namely that remote filesystems are not ordered
relative to nfs-common. In your case it's rpc.statd and not rpc.gssd,
but the cause is the same.

In your case, instead of mounts just failing, the mount.nfs binary has
a weird logic in it that for NFSv2 and NFSv3 mounts, if statd isn't
already running, it will call /usr/sbin/start-statd. That's a script
(you can look at it) and it will start rpc.statd multiple times - with
the --no-notify option. (Because statd notifications should only happen
at boot, but mount.nfs isn't just called at boot.)

The problem you have here is the following:

 - nfs-common tries to start statd regularly (without any options
   unless you specified them explicitly via /etc/default/nfs-common)

 - at the same time you apparently have multiple (!) nfs mounts for
   which mount.nfs is started

 - each of those mount.nfs processes tries to run statd with the
   --no-notify option

 - then they start getting it each other's way, at the end one wins
   all or all but one mounts (depending on which wins) will just fail

The start-statd logic of mount.nfs is something that doesn't jibe well
with systemd, since it was designed back when nfs mounts were not done
in parallel but rather one after the other, so that even if it were
executed at boot, it wouldn't have caused this issue, because boot was
much more serialized. (Also, starting statd in systemd as part of a
mount unit is not a good idea.)

To solve your problem:

Just apply the same workaround until it's fixed in Jessie: make sure
that NFS mounts only happen after nfs-common is done, then mount.nfs
will not try to start statd itself (because it's already running) and
boot should work out. For this, create a directory
/etc/systemd/system/nfs-common.service.d
and then create a file
/etc/systemd/system/nfs-common.service.d/remote-fs-pre.conf
with the following contents:

[Unit]
Before=remote-fs-pre.target

Then it should work.

Regards,
Christian

[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775542



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Re: Kerberos-secured NFSv4: nss_getpwnam: name '8' does not map into domain

2015-07-21 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi there,

On 07/10/2015 01:02 PM, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> Am 2015-07-08 15:34, schrieb Jonas Meurer:
>> I've another annoying issue with my new Kerberos-secured NFSv4 setup.
>> Sometimes when Exim4 writes to the mounted NFS share, it fails to set
>> owner and permissions on the written file. Exim4 runs as local user
>> Debian-exim:Debian-exim but tries to set owner of created files on
>> the NFS share to 'mail:mail'. Both the local user Debian-exim and
>> the local user mail are authenticated against the Kerberos server and
>> principals 'debian-e...@domain.org' as well as 'm...@domain.org' do
>> exist.
>>
>> Obviously, not time Exim4 creates a file and sets owner on the NFS
>> share, the error is produced. Most of the time, this just works and
>> new files are owned by 'mail:mail'. But sometimes, it fails. In
>> these cases, Exim4 gives the following error:
> 
> In the meantime, I did some further debugging. I still have no clue
> what triggers the error. It happens serveral times every hour, but
> I didn't find a pattern yet. Interestingly, the error vanishs by
> itself after a few minutes.
> 
> Below's some debugging output of rpc.idmapd on the Kerberos-/NFS-
> Server.

Ok, these long entries explain what's happening from the server
perspective - and the server does everything correct here. First of
all, this has nothing do with Kerberos, but with NFSv4's idmapping.

Let me back up a little. If you look at the internet standard covering
NFSv4 (RFC 3530) [0], there's a nice little section called
   5.8.  Interpreting owner and owner_group
which describes the attributes used to transmit user and group
ownership information between server and client (both for what to show
with 'ls' and for what to do with 'chown/chmod'). To quote parts of
that section:

   [...] It is expected that the client and
   server will have their own local representation of owner and
   owner_group that is used for local storage or presentation to the end
   user.  Therefore, it is expected that when these attributes are
   transferred between the client and server that the local
   representation is translated to a syntax of the form
   "user@dns_domain".  This will allow for a client and server that do
   not use the same local representation the ability to translate to a
   common syntax that can be interpreted by both. [...]

   The translation used to interpret owner and group strings is not
   specified as part of the protocol.  This allows various solutions to
   be employed.  For example, a local translation table may be consulted
   that maps between a numeric id to the user@dns_domain syntax. [...]

   In the case where there is no translation available to the client or
   server, the attribute value must be constructed without the "@".
   Therefore, the absence of the @ from the owner or owner_group
   attribute signifies that no translation was available at the sender
   and that the receiver of the attribute should not use that string as
   a basis for translation into its own internal format. [...]

Note that Linux always uses uids internally in the kernel to store user
credentials, so what happens is that the sender of a NFSv4 packet takes
the uid, translates it into a string representation containing an @,
and then sends that over the netowrk - the receiver translates it back
into a uid and uses that in its own data structures. (Btw. if you run
ls to show a directory listing, ls will translate it back into a string
representation, possibly a different one, so you may see a username
instead of just a number. So on NFS three different translations will
happen if you type ls -l somewhere: 1. server: uid -> nfs-name,
2. client (kernel): nfs-name -> uid and 3. client (ls): uid -> name.
nfs-name is typically the same as name with just an @nfs4-domain at
the end, but doesn't have to be.)

This is what the idmapping on both the server and the client is about:
to tell the NFSv4 server and client implementations how to do this type
of translation.

(Side note: if you are using sec=sys and a recent enough kernel on both
server and client, IIRC 3.4 or newer - but I may be mistaken about the
version that was properly implemented - idmapping is not required at
all, since the kernel supports just sending the uids in ASCII as
numbers in that field, see the RFC. But that doesn't work for
sec=krb5*, because the security model depends on requests being
authenticated with the principal of the user on the client, which
implies that there needs to be idmapping anyway to map the ids to a
principal and back. On the other hand, sec=sys doesn't have anything
you'd want to call security model at all. sec=sys is just "let me trust
the client completely" or at best "let me trust the client with
everything but root itself".)

Now let's get back to those log messages:
> Jul 10 10:46:59 nfs1 rpc.idmapd[4946]: nfsdcb: authbuf=gss/krb5i authtype=user
> Jul 10 10:46:59 nfs1 rpc.idmapd[4946]: nfs4_name_to_uid: calling 
> nsswitch->name_to_uid
> Jul 10

Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Jape Person

On 07/21/2015 12:28 PM, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:


Quoting Erick Ocrospoma :


On 21 July 2015 at 10:32, Martin Skjöldebrand 
wrote:


Hi,

Mail from desperate user here:

OS: Debian 8.1 Jessie

Scenario: Mail/web server with file corruption. I have I/O errors on a few
blocks which results in regular (daily) server crashes (including kernel
panic) at random times during the day, usually afternoon CET. I need to run
fsck on the disks. I have grub2 installed on the server.

Catch: For some reason there is only one partition - yes I know this is
retarded.
Catch2: This is on virtual hosting provider so I can access the server
through ssh or vnc but not physically

How can I run fsck at boot time while the disks are umounted. Adding
single to the grub linux kernel line fails to actually run fsck as the disk
is mounted when server goes into rescue mode.
I've Googled and (among other suggestions) read about the systemd fsck
service but am not sure this will help or really how to invoke the thing
properly
Adding init=/bin/systemd fsck.mode=force fsck.repair=yes didn't seem to do
much.



Well, common fsck at boot procedure I ever used was:

touch /forcefsck



Thanks for suggestion.
I've tried this but the server is back up in a few seconds, so I am
fairly certain it isn't running a fsck at boot time after issuing
"reboot".

And the only half helpful suggestion from the hosting was running in
single mode from grub, but the disk is mounted at that time. Else to
rollback a snapshot of the server which would mean hours of
reconfiguration which I am hoping to avoid.

/Martin S

Not sure this will be at all helpful considering that the consensus 
seems to be that fsck is probably not what you need right now. I just 
wanted to be sure that you got some sort of answer regarding the running 
of systemd-fsck.


You should be able to see the result of an fsck run with

$ cat /run/initramfs/fsck.log

I use

# tune2fs -c -1 /dev/sda1

to set the system to prevent a full fsck from running at boot time

and

# tune2fs -c 1 /dev/sda1

to cause the system to force a full fsck during the next boot.

HTH,
Jape


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Re: audio restore functionaility

2015-07-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 06:42:58PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> 
> But we don't really know much about what the OP did.  We haven't heard from 
> him since his initial enquiry.

He may not even be subscribed. 

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Re: Debug files are given unreadable names

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 21.07.2015 um 15:53 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
> Does such a script exist as of now? If not, could it please be
> provided as you mention above?

I don't know. You best follow-up at the bug report I quoted.

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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Martin S
On Tuesday 21 July 2015 20.31.07 Nicolas George wrote:
> Le tridi 3 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Martin S a écrit :
> > For what it's worth this is a mild example of the I/O error I get in
> > connection with the crashes...
> > 
> > https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ezm3jn272xpdmq/Selection_024.png
> 
> Why a screenshot to copy text?
> 
It's from a web based VNC session I can't copy from or paste to. And I was too 
lazy to open a writeable one.

> That is a read error on the block device, not a corruption of the
> filesystem: fsck will not really help you.

I posted something the like to my hosting - we'll see what they say.

Thanks for all replies so far =)

/Martin S


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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Nicolas George
Le tridi 3 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Martin S a écrit :
> For what it's worth this is a mild example of the I/O error I get in 
> connection with the crashes...
> 
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ezm3jn272xpdmq/Selection_024.png

Why a screenshot to copy text?

That is a read error on the block device, not a corruption of the
filesystem: fsck will not really help you.

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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Martin S
For what it's worth this is a mild example of the I/O error I get in 
connection with the crashes...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/3ezm3jn272xpdmq/Selection_024.png

/Martin S


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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand


Quoting Martin Read :


On 21/07/15 16:32, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:

Scenario: Mail/web server with file corruption. I have I/O errors on a
few blocks which results in regular (daily) server crashes (including
kernel panic) at random times during the day, usually afternoon CET. I
need to run fsck on the disks. I have grub2 installed on the server.


If you have "I/O errors on a few blocks", it seems to me that the  
hardware your virtual hosting provider uses to host your server is  
either defective, dying, or misconfigured, and you should address  
*that* as a matter of urgency.


The systemd-fsck service *should* run automatically, as far as I can  
tell from casual inspection of the relevant systemd unit files, but  
if you are actually getting *I/O errors*, fsck is not going to save  
you.


Thanks, I actually on one of the first calls said I saw OpenStack  
being mentioned in the kernel panic message so I actually wondered if  
it was my server or the hardware hosting the server. They (naturally)  
pointed to my server.

I'll mail them this reply (parts of) and see what happens.

/Martin S
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Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3 Big Progress

2015-07-21 Thread Martin G. McCormick
To all who have helped me so far, a huge thank you! I
soon realized that the subject line of this message is incorrect
since pop3 covers only the delivery task and I got that working
a couple of weeks or so ago. The indescribably joyful experience
of being able to successfully authenticate to an out-going smtp
smarthost that my ISP provides, however, has more than made up
for the false sense of "mission accomplished" I felt when the
first pop3 message popped up.

I did take the output of an unsuccessful authentication
attempt and ran the base64 string it returned as the password
through base64 in decode mode and, voila, there was my user ID
and password in nice clear text as it should be and there's
where I found the last unexplainable reason for failure.

In .msmtprc, there is a line that looks like:

password 'BiG-SeCreT'

I wanted to be really concise so I enclosed the secret in single
quotes just as you see it here. I expected msmtp to strip those
out and that would insure that what was there was always taken
literally. What's there is taken literally, all right including
the single quotes. I took them out and I can now see that
authentication is successful and a couple of test messages went out
and have arrived at a remote host in 1 piece so I technically
can send mail but I still need to tie msmtp in to nmh which some
of you may be familiar with.

That is a different topic for a different mailing list.

Again, thanks to all for your patience.

Martin McCormick


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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand


Quoting Erick Ocrospoma :


On 21 July 2015 at 10:32, Martin Skjöldebrand 
wrote:


Hi,

Mail from desperate user here:

OS: Debian 8.1 Jessie

Scenario: Mail/web server with file corruption. I have I/O errors on a few
blocks which results in regular (daily) server crashes (including kernel
panic) at random times during the day, usually afternoon CET. I need to run
fsck on the disks. I have grub2 installed on the server.

Catch: For some reason there is only one partition - yes I know this is
retarded.
Catch2: This is on virtual hosting provider so I can access the server
through ssh or vnc but not physically

How can I run fsck at boot time while the disks are umounted. Adding
single to the grub linux kernel line fails to actually run fsck as the disk
is mounted when server goes into rescue mode.
I've Googled and (among other suggestions) read about the systemd fsck
service but am not sure this will help or really how to invoke the thing
properly
Adding init=/bin/systemd fsck.mode=force fsck.repair=yes didn't seem to do
much.



Well, common fsck at boot procedure I ever used was:

touch /forcefsck



Thanks for suggestion.
I've tried this but the server is back up in a few seconds, so I am  
fairly certain it isn't running a fsck at boot time after issuing  
"reboot".


And the only half helpful suggestion from the hosting was running in  
single mode from grub, but the disk is mounted at that time. Else to  
rollback a snapshot of the server which would mean hours of  
reconfiguration which I am hoping to avoid.


/Martin S
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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Erick Ocrospoma
On 21 July 2015 at 10:32, Martin Skjöldebrand 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Mail from desperate user here:
>
> OS: Debian 8.1 Jessie
>
> Scenario: Mail/web server with file corruption. I have I/O errors on a few
> blocks which results in regular (daily) server crashes (including kernel
> panic) at random times during the day, usually afternoon CET. I need to run
> fsck on the disks. I have grub2 installed on the server.
>
> Catch: For some reason there is only one partition - yes I know this is
> retarded.
> Catch2: This is on virtual hosting provider so I can access the server
> through ssh or vnc but not physically
>
> How can I run fsck at boot time while the disks are umounted. Adding
> single to the grub linux kernel line fails to actually run fsck as the disk
> is mounted when server goes into rescue mode.
> I've Googled and (among other suggestions) read about the systemd fsck
> service but am not sure this will help or really how to invoke the thing
> properly
> Adding init=/bin/systemd fsck.mode=force fsck.repair=yes didn't seem to do
> much.
>

Well, common fsck at boot procedure I ever used was:

touch /forcefsck

Then rebooting server and waiting for it to be up. Most of the time it took
several minutes due to fsck, I would wonder if trying witch systemd-fsck
has taken a couple of minutes too? How are you sure that fsck is not
running (asumming systemd-fsck is not working) ?

On the other hand, as somebody else has told you, you should report this
issue to your hosting provider, this is more a hardware problem than a
OS/software one.


>
>
> Desperate for suggestions.
>
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Re: File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Read

On 21/07/15 16:32, Martin Skjöldebrand wrote:

Scenario: Mail/web server with file corruption. I have I/O errors on a
few blocks which results in regular (daily) server crashes (including
kernel panic) at random times during the day, usually afternoon CET. I
need to run fsck on the disks. I have grub2 installed on the server.


If you have "I/O errors on a few blocks", it seems to me that the 
hardware your virtual hosting provider uses to host your server is 
either defective, dying, or misconfigured, and you should address *that* 
as a matter of urgency.


The systemd-fsck service *should* run automatically, as far as I can 
tell from casual inspection of the relevant systemd unit files, but if 
you are actually getting *I/O errors*, fsck is not going to save you.



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File check at boot

2015-07-21 Thread Martin Skjöldebrand

Hi,

Mail from desperate user here:

OS: Debian 8.1 Jessie

Scenario: Mail/web server with file corruption. I have I/O errors on a  
few blocks which results in regular (daily) server crashes (including  
kernel panic) at random times during the day, usually afternoon CET. I  
need to run fsck on the disks. I have grub2 installed on the server.


Catch: For some reason there is only one partition - yes I know this  
is retarded.
Catch2: This is on virtual hosting provider so I can access the server  
through ssh or vnc but not physically


How can I run fsck at boot time while the disks are umounted. Adding  
single to the grub linux kernel line fails to actually run fsck as the  
disk is mounted when server goes into rescue mode.
I've Googled and (among other suggestions) read about the systemd fsck  
service but am not sure this will help or really how to invoke the  
thing properly
Adding init=/bin/systemd fsck.mode=force fsck.repair=yes didn't seem  
to do much.



Desperate for suggestions.

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Re: Debug files are given unreadable names

2015-07-21 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Hello and thanks for your reply. If this is indeed the current
accepted way of providing debug symbols, that's ok but:

1) Do I understand that gdb as packaged with Debian and derivatives is
capable of automatically accessing these files when required?

2) For those who want to examine these symbols using tools like nm,
what is the solution?

3) The bug report says:

- If people complained that filenames in -dbg packages are not
transparent enough, a script that would print mapping between binaries
and their .debug counterparts could be easily written, to be included in
devscripts.

Does such a script exist as of now? If not, could it please be
provided as you mention above?

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Re: Bizarre issue: USB 3 disconnecting and dying

2015-07-21 Thread Nicolas George
Le tridi 3 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Jape Person a écrit :
> I should probably be more careful in the way I word things. I meant to say
> that *I* won't let USB-connected storage devices (or optical disc devices)
> anywhere near /etc/fstab on my systems.

With the default options, it could prevent the boot from finishing if the
drive is not present. But with the noauto option, in terms of stability it
is completely equivalent to mounting with mount or pmount: it is only a
shortcut, and possibly a privileges delegation with the user option. Of
course, it is only useful with stable names.

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Re: Debug files are given unreadable names

2015-07-21 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 21.07.2015 um 13:19 schrieb Shriramana Sharma:
> I do not have enough knowledge of Debian build system to identify the
> correct package to file the bug against. Please tell me if the bug is
> already filed too. (I tried to use the search interface but trying to
> "include bugs with" "debug symbols have unreadable names" did not work
> correctly.)

That's not a bug, but the package using build-ids now.
See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=642158 why
build-ids are wanted.

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Re: Bizarre issue: USB 3 disconnecting and dying

2015-07-21 Thread Jape Person

On 07/20/2015 08:53 PM, Joel Rees wrote:

I don't seem to be able to string two sentences together these days.

I mean, I think Jape suggests removing the entries entirely. That's one
possibility.


I should probably be more careful in the way I word things. I meant to 
say that *I* won't let USB-connected storage devices (or optical disc 
devices) anywhere near /etc/fstab on my systems. I use pmount to handle 
mounting them and unmounting them. That works great for my simple 
personal systems, but I don't encrypt the external volumes, and I 
disconnect them when they are not mounted. If I need to store sensitive 
data externally I put it in a password-protected archive and then store 
it externally.


The more complex systems I used at work (retired now) don't use external 
physical drives and use arrangements made on SANs for data backups.




I would also suggest being sure that the UUID is correct, since you swapped
actual media:

See

https://wiki.debian.org/fstab

if you are not familiar with UUIDs and the blkid command. Otherwise, I'm
out of useful suggestions.



And this is what I should have said in my earlier post. Sorry.

I think Joel's clarification is spot on. If I were going to use fstab 
for handling mounting chores for external drives UUID is certainly the 
way I'd go.


I agreed with an end user creating his own Debian system once that 
labels would work as well as the UUIDs he detested the look of. He 
didn't understand that two external drives with the same label weren't 
what I meant. I was amazed. He was angry. Of course, it's also possible 
to mess up using UUIDs if one reassigns UUIDs. Yeah, that was this end 
user's next step.


I'm just as dumb as him -- just not about this particular sort of thing.

;-)

Jape


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Debug files are given unreadable names

2015-07-21 Thread Shriramana Sharma
Hello. Please compare:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/libc6-dbg/filelist

with the following:

https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/libqt4-dbg/filelist
https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/qtbase5-dbg/filelist
https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/kdelibs5-dbg/filelist
https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/libkf5guiaddons5-dbg/filelist
https://packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/libkf5coreaddons5-dbg/filelist

The libc6 debug package clearly shows the actual file names of the
SO-s from which the debug symbols where extracted so that for instance
even though I find:

/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu $ nm libm.so
nm: libm.so: no symbols

I can go to the identically named directory under /usr/lib/debug and:
/usr/lib/debug/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu $ nm -C libm-2.19.so | grep sincos
00027530 W sincos
00027530 t __sincos
00034d80 W sincosf
00034d80 t __sincosf
0003f950 W sincosl
0003f950 t __sincosl
000aafe0 r __sincosl_table
000ade20 r __sincostab

Clearly the Qt/KDE libs' debug symbols files should also have similar
meaningful names identical to the actual SO files from which these
symbols have been stripped, but there is probably some bug in the
Debian builder scripts which automatically pull the git from upstream
repo and builds it, or something like that, causing names to be
similar to git blob file names.

I do not have enough knowledge of Debian build system to identify the
correct package to file the bug against. Please tell me if the bug is
already filed too. (I tried to use the search interface but trying to
"include bugs with" "debug symbols have unreadable names" did not work
correctly.)

Thanks. BTW I'm not subscribed to this list so I request being CC-ed
on this thread.

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