Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire

2015-07-24 Thread Stéphane Trainel
Bonjour,

un simple tr ne suffit pas ?
cat file | tr '\n' ':'



Le ven. 24 juil. 2015 à 09:07, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a
écrit :

 Salut,

 Je continue ma petite moulinette, est-ce que vous savez comment je peux
 faire pour faire un cat de mon fichier
 de resultat contenant les lignes de mes noms de dossier :

 dossier 1
 dossier 2
 dossier 3
 .

 sur une seule ligne ?

 Dossier en erreur : dossier1 : dossier2 : dossier3.

 avec le séparteur : entre les deux ?






 Le 23 juillet 2015 18:34, Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a écrit :

 On 23/07/2015 18:29, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

  Je vais peut-être dire une bêtise mais inotify n'est
  pas récursif, non ? Je veux dire par là qu'il arrête
  sa recherche uniquement à la racine du répertoire cible,
  il ne va chercher de manière récursive dans les sous
  répertoires, les sous-sous répertoires etc. Enfin je
  crois...
 
Les outils ont une option -r…

 Ah, au temps pour moi. ;)

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Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire

2015-07-24 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:23:32 +0200,
David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 ah ça serait si simple que ça, suis-je une buze ? je crois ben que
 oui ;-)
 
 Je teste tout de suite.
 
 Le 24 juillet 2015 09:18, Stéphane Trainel
 stephane.trai...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
  Bonjour,
 
  un simple tr ne suffit pas ?
  cat file | tr '\n' ':'

bonjour,

je propose :

cat file | xargs

slt
bernard

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Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire

2015-07-24 Thread David Martin
Salut,

Je continue ma petite moulinette, est-ce que vous savez comment je peux
faire pour faire un cat de mon fichier
de resultat contenant les lignes de mes noms de dossier :

dossier 1
dossier 2
dossier 3
.

sur une seule ligne ?

Dossier en erreur : dossier1 : dossier2 : dossier3.

avec le séparteur : entre les deux ?






Le 23 juillet 2015 18:34, Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a écrit :

 On 23/07/2015 18:29, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

  Je vais peut-être dire une bêtise mais inotify n'est
  pas récursif, non ? Je veux dire par là qu'il arrête
  sa recherche uniquement à la racine du répertoire cible,
  il ne va chercher de manière récursive dans les sous
  répertoires, les sous-sous répertoires etc. Enfin je
  crois...
 
Les outils ont une option -r…

 Ah, au temps pour moi. ;)

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Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire

2015-07-24 Thread David Martin
ah ça serait si simple que ça, suis-je une buze ? je crois ben que oui ;-)

Je teste tout de suite.

Le 24 juillet 2015 09:18, Stéphane Trainel stephane.trai...@gmail.com a
écrit :

 Bonjour,

 un simple tr ne suffit pas ?
 cat file | tr '\n' ':'



 Le ven. 24 juil. 2015 à 09:07, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 Salut,

 Je continue ma petite moulinette, est-ce que vous savez comment je peux
 faire pour faire un cat de mon fichier
 de resultat contenant les lignes de mes noms de dossier :

 dossier 1
 dossier 2
 dossier 3
 .

 sur une seule ligne ?

 Dossier en erreur : dossier1 : dossier2 : dossier3.

 avec le séparteur : entre les deux ?






 Le 23 juillet 2015 18:34, Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a écrit
 :

 On 23/07/2015 18:29, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

  Je vais peut-être dire une bêtise mais inotify n'est
  pas récursif, non ? Je veux dire par là qu'il arrête
  sa recherche uniquement à la racine du répertoire cible,
  il ne va chercher de manière récursive dans les sous
  répertoires, les sous-sous répertoires etc. Enfin je
  crois...
 
Les outils ont une option -r…

 Ah, au temps pour moi. ;)

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Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire

2015-07-24 Thread David Martin
Ah, re ok, je garde aussi, par contre comme ça fonctionne je testerai sur
autre chose ;-)

Merci en tout cas

Le 24 juillet 2015 09:32, Bernard Schoenacker bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
a écrit :

 Le Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:23:32 +0200,
 David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a écrit :

  ah ça serait si simple que ça, suis-je une buze ? je crois ben que
  oui ;-)
 
  Je teste tout de suite.
 
  Le 24 juillet 2015 09:18, Stéphane Trainel
  stephane.trai...@gmail.com a écrit :
 
   Bonjour,
  
   un simple tr ne suffit pas ?
   cat file | tr '\n' ':'

 bonjour,

 je propose :

 cat file | xargs

 slt
 bernard

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Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire

2015-07-24 Thread David Martin
Comme j'aimerai avoir ta rapidité de resolution. Quelle claire-voyance !
Chapeau bas, Merci ça passe nickel !!! ;-)


Le 24 juillet 2015 09:23, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 ah ça serait si simple que ça, suis-je une buze ? je crois ben que oui ;-)

 Je teste tout de suite.

 Le 24 juillet 2015 09:18, Stéphane Trainel stephane.trai...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 Bonjour,

 un simple tr ne suffit pas ?
 cat file | tr '\n' ':'



 Le ven. 24 juil. 2015 à 09:07, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 Salut,

 Je continue ma petite moulinette, est-ce que vous savez comment je peux
 faire pour faire un cat de mon fichier
 de resultat contenant les lignes de mes noms de dossier :

 dossier 1
 dossier 2
 dossier 3
 .

 sur une seule ligne ?

 Dossier en erreur : dossier1 : dossier2 : dossier3.

 avec le séparteur : entre les deux ?






 Le 23 juillet 2015 18:34, Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a
 écrit :

 On 23/07/2015 18:29, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

  Je vais peut-être dire une bêtise mais inotify n'est
  pas récursif, non ? Je veux dire par là qu'il arrête
  sa recherche uniquement à la racine du répertoire cible,
  il ne va chercher de manière récursive dans les sous
  répertoires, les sous-sous répertoires etc. Enfin je
  crois...
 
Les outils ont une option -r…

 Ah, au temps pour moi. ;)

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alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

after a few weeks of settling i got my Debian 8.1 nearly into
the shape of its deceased predecessor (antique SuSE which died
from southbridge radiator pop-off due to material fatigue).

Two problems remain: alpine with mail provider GMX and /dev/sr1
trying to bite my fingers.

As for the first one:

I cannot get alpine mail client to send mail via mail.gmx.net:465.
It reports Bad sequence of commands which is probably SMTP error
503.
My own primitive SMTP client does work (by help of stunnel for SSL).

Does anybody have a alpine configuration which currently works via
SMTP with GMX (a major german mail provider) ?

Or proposals how to watch the SMTP traffic between alpine and
the SMTP server ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: error al hacer update e instalar

2015-07-24 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 05:24:25PM +, Reyder Hidalgo wrote:

 gracias camaleón, pero no es el caso.

Lo que te ha dicho Camaleón es lo que debes hacer,
pero tienes que mirar también aquí:

/etc/apt/sources.list.d


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Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread Philippe Gras
Bonjour à toutes et à tous,

savez-vous s'il existe un paquet semblable à ce que produit
le moteur de Yahoo! Pipes avant qu'on ne définisse 1 input?

Un système semblable à celui-ci :
http://www.open-tickr.net/download.php

Mais sans machin graphique, ni output.

Soit, un truc dont je pourrais customiser les in-outputs sur un
plugin pour un CMS lambda…

Yahoo! Pipes va bientôt fermer. Pour l'instant, je suis en train
de faire un parseur en PHP, mais c'est assez gourmand…
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Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire

2015-07-24 Thread David Martin
voici la moulinette terminée comme demandé.


#!/bin/bash
#
# Creation de la liste actuelle des dossiers du répertoire indiqué
find /app2/nagios -type d | sed  's/^.//' | sed '1d'  new.list
# Fait un diff entre deux fichiers un de référence, et un nouveau
diff --side-by-side --suppress-common-lines new.list base.list | awk
'{print $1}'  delta.list
#Traitement du diff et remontée dans netsaint / nagios
CHANGEXPLOIT=$(cat delta.list | tr '\n' ':' )
if [ -s $CHANGE ]; then
  echo Dossier à traiter : $CHANGEXPLOIT
#Affiche un CRITICAL
  exit 2
else
  echo Ok aucun dossier en erreur
#Affiche un OK
  exit 0
fi

Pour la mise à jour du fichier base.list, elle est faite de façon
automatique via un script contextuelle, par les exploitants.

Voilà,
Bon week-end à vous et merci encore pour votre aide, je renviendrai ;-)



Le 24 juillet 2015 11:19, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Comme j'aimerai avoir ta rapidité de resolution. Quelle claire-voyance !
 Chapeau bas, Merci ça passe nickel !!! ;-)


 Le 24 juillet 2015 09:23, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 ah ça serait si simple que ça, suis-je une buze ? je crois ben que oui ;-)

 Je teste tout de suite.

 Le 24 juillet 2015 09:18, Stéphane Trainel stephane.trai...@gmail.com
 a écrit :

 Bonjour,

 un simple tr ne suffit pas ?
 cat file | tr '\n' ':'



 Le ven. 24 juil. 2015 à 09:07, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a
 écrit :

 Salut,

 Je continue ma petite moulinette, est-ce que vous savez comment je peux
 faire pour faire un cat de mon fichier
 de resultat contenant les lignes de mes noms de dossier :

 dossier 1
 dossier 2
 dossier 3
 .

 sur une seule ligne ?

 Dossier en erreur : dossier1 : dossier2 : dossier3.

 avec le séparteur : entre les deux ?






 Le 23 juillet 2015 18:34, Francois Lafont mathsatta...@free.fr a
 écrit :

 On 23/07/2015 18:29, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:

  Je vais peut-être dire une bêtise mais inotify n'est
  pas récursif, non ? Je veux dire par là qu'il arrête
  sa recherche uniquement à la racine du répertoire cible,
  il ne va chercher de manière récursive dans les sous
  répertoires, les sous-sous répertoires etc. Enfin je
  crois...
 
Les outils ont une option -r…

 Ah, au temps pour moi. ;)

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What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

one of my optical drives automatically pulls in its tray if it stands
out for a few minutes. The four others do not try to byte my fingers.

The waiting time between manual tray eject and automatic tray load
is quite reliably 195 to 200 seconds.

Optical driving is one of my sports. So i am sure that it doesn't do
this on its own. It rather must get a SCSI command START/STOP UNIT
with Start bit and Load/Eject bit.

Now i riddle from where this command might come and why only /dev/sr1
is affected but not /dev/sr0, sr2, sr3, sr4.

I killed all processes of udisks2 and gvfs, but am not brave enough
to kill systemd-udevd.

  udevadm monitor -k -u -p
does not show any event at the time when the tray moves in.
I also unpacked the initrd and inspected
/lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules.
The ones which call blkid would be suspects. But they seem to rely
on the presence of CDROM content info, which cannot be known while
the tray is out.

crontab says that neither desktop user nor superuser have cron jobs.
atq says there is no at-job while the tray is out.


Any idea what automat gropes my cheap DVD drive and ignores
all my expensive Blurays ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: Instalar Gnome desde la ISO

2015-07-24 Thread Santiago Vila
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 04:36:52PM -0430, Yair De la cruz wrote:
 Me gustaria saber como hago para instalar Gnome desde la imagen ISO que me
 descarge desde la pagina official https://www.gnome.org/.

No lo hagas así.

https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian


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Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 24 July 2015 11:31:52 Thomas Schmitt wrote:
 Any idea what automat gropes my cheap DVD drive and ignores
 all my expensive Blurays ?

I would expect it to be the DVD drive itself, designed to prevent people 
forgetting to shut it.

Don't forget that it needs power to do anything, so if you open it with the 
computer powered off it won't shut.  But I'll bet if you do that, then turn 
the computer on, it will shut almost straight away.

Lisi


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Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.07.2015 um 16:37 schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
 Hi,
 
 Michael Biebl wrote:
 Not sure if the in-kernel polling enabled in
 /lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules 
 triggers this specific behaviour for this particular drive.

 Can you comment out the following two lines:
 ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==module, KERNEL==block,
 ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}==0, \
   ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}=2000
 
 There is no such file in my still quite vanilla 8.1.

Ok, it wasn't clear which Debian version you were using. I was referring
to unstable/testing.

 I find events_dfl_poll_msecs in
 /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
 
   # enable in-kernel media-presence polling
   ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==module, KERNEL==block, 
 ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}==0, 
 ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}=2000
   ACTION==add, ATTR{removable}==1, ATTR{events_poll_msecs}==-1, 
 ATTR{events_poll_msecs}=2000
 
 Ok, i commented out the last two of above three lines
 and stored the file. No change in behavior.
 
 Do i have anything to do in order to activate the rule ?
 udevadm control --reload ? udevadm trigger ?
 (Reboot will be very inconvenient.)

Reloading the udev rules won't unset that sysfs parameter. The easiest
is to reboot.

You should be able to reset that parameter though via
echo 0  /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs






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Re: Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread David Martin
;-)

désolé pour l'orthaugrafe

Zatané langue françaize



Le 24 juillet 2015 15:18, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit :


 Le 24 juil. 2015 à 15:12, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 J'avais lu une explication d'un incompétent sur le site de tromblon 01
 .net ou Comment ça marche (t-il) pour les grosses buze
 concernant le delta entre efi et le bios, c'était toi ?


 Probablement, puisque ça n'a rien à voir avec la choucroute.

 … et grosse buse, ça s'écrit avec un S. Comme les oiseaux :
 https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/buse


 Ajoute les backports si ce n'est déjà fait, et recherche dedans.


 Le 24 juillet 2015 15:03, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour à toutes et à tous,

 savez-vous s'il existe un paquet semblable à ce que produit
 le moteur de Yahoo! Pipes avant qu'on ne définisse 1 input?

 Un système semblable à celui-ci :
 http://www.open-tickr.net/download.php

 Mais sans machin graphique, ni output.

 Soit, un truc dont je pourrais customiser les in-outputs sur un
 plugin pour un CMS lambda…

 Yahoo! Pipes va bientôt fermer. Pour l'instant, je suis en train
 de faire un parseur en PHP, mais c'est assez gourmand…
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Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Michael Biebl wrote:
 Not sure if the in-kernel polling enabled in
 /lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules 
 triggers this specific behaviour for this particular drive.
 
 Can you comment out the following two lines:
 ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==module, KERNEL==block,
 ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}==0, \
   ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}=2000

There is no such file in my still quite vanilla 8.1.

I find events_dfl_poll_msecs in
/lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules

  # enable in-kernel media-presence polling
  ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==module, KERNEL==block, 
ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}==0, 
ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}=2000
  ACTION==add, ATTR{removable}==1, ATTR{events_poll_msecs}==-1, 
ATTR{events_poll_msecs}=2000

Ok, i commented out the last two of above three lines
and stored the file. No change in behavior.

Do i have anything to do in order to activate the rule ?
udevadm control --reload ? udevadm trigger ?
(Reboot will be very inconvenient.)

The interval of of 2000 ms is only 1/100 of the interval
which i perceive. (It's not a periodic interval but always
starts when i eject the tray.)


I ran

  udevadm info -n /dev/sr1

which yields with the self-retracting drive:

---
P: /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/ata4/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0/block/sr1
N: sr1
S: disk/by-id/ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NSC0_K8AF33A3528
S: disk/by-id/wwn-0x50014800
E: DEVLINKS=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NSC0_K8AF33A3528 
/dev/disk/by-id/wwn-0x50014800
E: DEVNAME=/dev/sr1
E: 
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/ata4/host3/target3:0:0/3:0:0:0/block/sr1
E: DEVTYPE=disk
E: ID_ATA=1
E: ID_ATA_SATA=1
E: ID_ATA_SATA_SIGNAL_RATE_GEN1=1
E: ID_BUS=ata
E: ID_CDROM=1
E: ID_MODEL=HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NSC0
E: 
ID_MODEL_ENC=HL-DT-ST\x20DVDRAM\x20GH24NSC0\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20
E: ID_REVISION=LK00
E: ID_SERIAL=HL-DT-ST_DVDRAM_GH24NSC0_K8AF33A3528
E: ID_SERIAL_SHORT=K8AF33A3528
E: ID_TYPE=cd
E: ID_WWN=0x50014800
E: ID_WWN_WITH_EXTENSION=0x50014800
E: MAJOR=11
E: MINOR=1
E: SUBSYSTEM=block
E: TAGS=:seat:systemd:uaccess:
E: UDISKS_PRESENTATION_NOPOLICY=0
E: USEC_INITIALIZED=90966
---

In comparison to the non-self-retracting sr0:

---
P: /devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/ata3/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sr0
N: sr0
L: -100
S: cdrom
S: cdrw
S: disk/by-id/ata-HL-DT-ST_BDDVDRW_GGC-H20L_K5C88LJ1616
S: dvd
S: dvdrw
E: DEVLINKS=/dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw 
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-HL-DT-ST_BDDVDRW_GGC-H20L_K5C88LJ1616 /dev/dvd /dev/dvdrw
E: DEVNAME=/dev/sr0
E: 
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1f.2/ata3/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sr0
E: DEVTYPE=disk
E: ID_ATA=1
E: ID_ATA_FEATURE_SET_PM=1
E: ID_ATA_FEATURE_SET_PM_ENABLED=1
E: ID_ATA_SATA=1
E: ID_ATA_SATA_SIGNAL_RATE_GEN1=1
E: ID_BUS=ata
E: ID_CDROM=1
E: ID_CDROM_BD=1
E: ID_CDROM_CD=1
E: ID_CDROM_CD_R=1
E: ID_CDROM_CD_RW=1
E: ID_CDROM_DVD=1
E: ID_CDROM_DVD_PLUS_R=1
E: ID_CDROM_DVD_PLUS_RW=1
E: ID_CDROM_DVD_PLUS_R_DL=1
E: ID_CDROM_DVD_R=1
E: ID_CDROM_DVD_RAM=1
E: ID_CDROM_DVD_RW=1
E: ID_CDROM_HDDVD=1
E: ID_MODEL=HL-DT-ST_BDDVDRW_GGC-H20L
E: 
ID_MODEL_ENC=HL-DT-ST\x20BDDVDRW\x20GGC-H20L\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20
E: ID_REVISION=1.03
E: ID_SERIAL=HL-DT-ST_BDDVDRW_GGC-H20L_K5C88LJ1616
E: ID_SERIAL_SHORT=K5C88LJ1616
E: ID_TYPE=cd
E: MAJOR=11
E: MINOR=0
E: SUBSYSTEM=block
E: TAGS=:seat:systemd:uaccess:
E: UDISKS_PRESENTATION_NOPOLICY=0
E: USEC_INITIALIZED=79780
---

Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread David Wright
Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net):

 I cannot get alpine mail client to send mail via mail.gmx.net:465.
 It reports Bad sequence of commands which is probably SMTP error
 503.
 My own primitive SMTP client does work (by help of stunnel for SSL).

I'm wondering if there's a mismatch in agreement between the client
and the server as to when encryption starts. Port 465 should be
encrypted straightaway, whereas others like 25 and 785 are not, so you
can use starttls on them. Perhaps try the same method, just changing
the port?

What about the logs? Alpine allegedly writes .pine-debug files as
pine used to (20 years ago in my case) which should show the
conversation.

Cheers,
David.


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 21:03:21 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:

 Le sextidi 6 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Erwan David a écrit :
  I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp
 
 Both work, and dd will give terrible performance without extra options.

What advice do you intend suggest including in

  https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/


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logiciel de gestion de photos

2015-07-24 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Bonjour,
Existe t'il sous linux un logiciel pour gestion de photos ou l'on puisse 
librement classer les photos , je m'explique les critères de classement sont 
souvent soit un classement alphabétique ou par date et heure et impossible de 
modifier ces classement or lorsque pour un évènement on veut mélanger les 
photos venant de différents appareils numérique et les classer suivant notre 
envie c'est impossible du moins je n'ai pas trouver ce logiciel. 
A l'avance merci pour vos idées.
Philippe Merlin 
P.S. Je sais il y a la méthode de renommer les photos pour les classer mais 
c'est un peu trop pénible

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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Robert Crawford
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 21:03:21 +0200, Nicolas George wrote:

  Le sextidi 6 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Erwan David a écrit :
   I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp
 
  Both work, and dd will give terrible performance without extra options.

 What advice do you intend suggest including in

   https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/

 ​ I have a Dell GX280, It has no problem with booting from usb. You might
 need to change boot order in bios.

 Robert​

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Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

David Wright wrote:
 Port 465 should be encrypted straightaway, 

I get a connection to the SMTP server directly by this line
in ~/.pinerc:
  smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/ssl/user=my_user...@gmx.net
or via stunnel to mail.gmx.net:465 at port NNN by
  smtp-server=localhost:NNN/user=my_user...@gmx.net
The stunnel port works fine with my own SMTP client which
i need for dealing with some local network and permission
peculiarities.
So encryption is not the problem.

I now tried TLS as proposed by
http://www.cs.duke.edu/csl/security/smtp-auth/pine:
  smtp-server=mail.gmx.net/tls/user=th.schm...@gmx.net
and also
  mail.gmx.net:587/tls/user=th.schm...@gmx.net
(587 is proposed by https://hilfe.gmx.net/sicherheit/ssl.html)
No change in behavior. Bad sequence of commands, obviously
error 503 sent by the GMX server.

alpine and gmx.net are at odds with the (E)SMTP service.


 What about the logs? Alpine allegedly writes .pine-debug files as
 pine used to (20 years ago in my case) which should show the
 conversation.

None to find in the whole /home tree. But the man page talks
of ~/.pine-debug[1-4]. Will try to enable them.
(Oh yeah the good old times ... 50 MHz CPU, 64 MB RAM, 17 CRT,
 200 W electrical power dissipated by noise and hot air.)


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Boot Error on new PowerPC Mac Mini Installation

2015-07-24 Thread Nathaniel Nelson
Hello! I hope this is the proper way to seek Debian support, and that I'm
not making a mistake/emailing the wrong list/whatever.

I've never used Debian before, and I'm trying to install it on an old Mac
Mini with a PowerPC G4 processor. I downloaded the PowerPC iso file
(debian-8.1.0-powerpc-netinst.iso) and burned it to an empty CD. I was able
to successfully navigate the installation process. A couple points of
interest:

* I chose to use the entire available hard drive space and set up LVM
(unencrypted). So I wiped Mac OS and all my old files from the computer.
* I chose to use a single partition (the recommended/default choice) and
after writing partition changes to the hard drive I received a warning that
Yaboot would need its own partition. It asked if I wanted to return to the
menu, so I did, assuming I would be able to make this change after
reversing the changes (as there was a menu option to do so). However the
reverse changes button seemed to do nothing, and I couldn't return to an
earlier step to specify different partition settings, so I simply continued
and wrote the changes again. (Probably should have read the manual before
starting... sorry)
* At the end I was prompted to choose a partition for installing Yaboot.
Although I had chosen to create only one partition, it offered me two
choices: sda2 and sba1 (IIRC). Not knowing the difference I chose sda2, the
first one from the list, and installation completed and the computer began
to boot in Debian.

The yaboot boot log displays, with a notable error flashing by that I
paraphrase here:

[FAILED] Failed to load Linux Kernel Modules

No other failures appear in the log. After everything finishes and the
screen goes black, instead of a login screen, I get this message fullscreen:

Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system
can't recover. Please log out and try again.

First I assumed this was due to a mistake when I chose to install Yaboot in
sda2, so I ran a full installation again from the CD. Everything went the
same, however there was no prompt to choose a partition and pick sba1
instead. And after the install finished, I got the same error message.

Googling, I read that I could open a terminal from this error window with
Ctrl+Alt+F1. This works, and then I read that I should log in as root and
run the command startx. And that the error should be fixed by installing
x-window-system if the startx command isn't found.

However, the startx command *is* found, xorg is already installed, and when
it runs, this again triggers the fullscreen Oh no! warning.

I read that the installer isn't meant to install on top of another full
installation, and that most problems such as this can be fixed without a
full reinstall, so I haven't made a third attempt at reinstallation. What
else could potentially be the issue here?

Thanks for any help. I can also supply more logs if you direct me to which
ones might be helpful.


Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Michael Biebl wrote:
  /lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules 

I wrote:
  There is no such file in my still quite vanilla 8.1.

Michael Biebl wrote:
 Ok, it wasn't clear which Debian version you were using. I was referring
 to unstable/testing.

Sorry, i mentioned it in my other thread about alpine.
(I come from older SuSE but already ran Debian 6 on
 another machine. So i know about apt-get install.)


 Reloading the udev rules won't unset that sysfs parameter. The easiest
 is to reboot.

Uptime 38 days. I am testing long term stability.
Looks fine so far.


 You should be able to reset that parameter though via
 echo 0  /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs

As superuser:

 # cat /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs
 2000
 # echo 0 /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs
 # cat /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs
 0

So far so good

 $ eject /dev/sr1 ; date
 Fri Jul 24 19:33:42 CEST 2015

and waiting until about 19:37 ...
Darn. It pulled in after 197 seconds.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: logiciel de gestion de photos

2015-07-24 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:57:28 +0200,
MERLIN Philippe phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 Existe t'il sous linux un logiciel pour gestion de photos ou l'on
 puisse librement classer les photos , je m'explique les critères de
 classement sont souvent soit un classement alphabétique ou par date
 et heure et impossible de modifier ces classement or lorsque pour un
 évènement on veut mélanger les photos venant de différents appareils
 numérique et les classer suivant notre envie c'est impossible du
 moins je n'ai pas trouver ce logiciel. A l'avance merci pour vos
 idées. Philippe Merlin 
 P.S. Je sais il y a la méthode de renommer les photos pour les
 classer mais c'est un peu trop pénible
 

bonjour,


essayes de voir :

rawtherapee
lightzone
darktable
showfoto
digikam


pour lightzone :

vi /etc/apt/sources.list.d/lightzone.list

deb
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/ktgw0316:/LightZone/Debian_7.0/ 
/


autrement :

apt-cache search exif | grep EXIF
exiv2 - EXIF/IPTC metadata manipulation tool
libexiv2-dbg - EXIF/IPTC metadata manipulation library - debug
libexiv2-dev - EXIF/IPTC metadata manipulation library - development
files libexiv2-doc - EXIF/IPTC metadata manipulation library - HTML
documentation gpscorrelate - correlates digital photos with GPS data
filling EXIF fields (command line) gpscorrelate-gui - correlates
digital photos with GPS data filling EXIF fields (GUI) libexif-gtk-dev
- Library providing GTK+ widgets to display/edit EXIF tags (development
files) libexif-gtk5 - Library providing GTK+ widgets to display/edit
EXIF tags libimage-exif-perl - Perl module to extract EXIF information
from image files metacam - extract EXIF information from digital camera
files python-pexif - Python EXIF parsing renrot - Rename and rotate
files according to EXIF tags ruby-exif - Ruby library for EXIF tag
parsing exif - Utilitaire en ligne de commande pour afficher les
informations EXIF des fichiers JPEG libexif12 - bibliothèque pour
analyser des fichiers EXIF libexif-dev - bibliothèque pour analyser des
fichiers EXIF (fichiers de développement) libexiv2-13 - bibliothèque de
manipulation de métadonnées EXIF/IPTC bins - Generate static HTML photo
albums using XML and EXIF tags


slt
bernard

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Debian Jessie click derecho y botones

2015-07-24 Thread luis

Buenas tardes

Tengo isntalado Debian Jessie 64 bit con Gnome

1. El caso es que en Archivos no puedo dar click-derecho para crear 
archivo texto como hacia en Debian Wheezy con Gnome.


Tengo instalado Gdit.

2. En las ventanas no me aparecen los botones de minimizar y maximizar, 
alguna idea ???


Agradezco toda ayuda


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Re: Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:29:20 +0200,
Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit :

 
 Le 24 juil. 2015 à 15:16, honeyshell honeysh...@honeyshell.com a
 écrit :
 
  Tu recherches quelque chose dans ce style :
  https://github.com/nikic/PHP-Parser
 
 Oui, on dirait bien :-) Il faut que j'y regarde de plus près.

bonjour,

apt-cache search News Aggregator
libxml-rss-feed-perl - Perl module for Persistent XML RSS (RDF Site
Summary) Encapsulation 

liferea-data - architecture independent data for
liferea rawdog - RSS Aggregator Without Delusions Of Grandeur tt-rss -
Tiny Tiny RSS - web-based news feed (RSS/Atom) aggregator owncloud-news
-RSS/Atom feed aggregator - ownCloud application


autrement il existe une alternative : lilina

lien ( en cache ) :

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pKkHIE3ZWNcJ:getlilina.org/+cd=1hl=frct=clnkgl=us

descriptif :

http://free-tools.fr/composants/gestion-rss/lilina-agregateur-rss-en-php-771/


bonne chance

slt
bernard

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Re: Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread Philippe Gras

Le 24 juil. 2015 à 16:02, Bernard Schoenacker bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a 
écrit :

 
 bonjour,
 
 apt-cache search News Aggregator
 libxml-rss-feed-perl - Perl module for Persistent XML RSS (RDF Site
 Summary) Encapsulation 
 
 liferea-data - architecture independent data for
 liferea rawdog - RSS Aggregator Without Delusions Of Grandeur tt-rss -
 Tiny Tiny RSS - web-based news feed (RSS/Atom) aggregator owncloud-news
 -RSS/Atom feed aggregator - ownCloud application

Non, ce n'est pas un agrégateur que je recherche,

mais ce qui va me permettre d'en programmer un…
 
 
 autrement il existe une alternative : lilina
 
 lien ( en cache ) :
 
 https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pKkHIE3ZWNcJ:getlilina.org/+cd=1hl=frct=clnkgl=us
 
 descriptif :
 
 http://free-tools.fr/composants/gestion-rss/lilina-agregateur-rss-en-php-771/
 
 
 bonne chance
 
 slt
 bernard
 
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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:

 Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :
  On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:
  Hi,
  I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
  saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
  has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
  Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
  mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
  see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
  asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
  formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
  install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
  saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
  wouldn't work either.
 
  I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
  on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6
 
  tx in advance
 
  If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
  USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
  bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
  partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
  .iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
  out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
  on it.
 
 
 
 I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

From

  https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en

   cp debian.iso /dev/sdX

cat can also be used.

We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
where the problem lies.


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 6 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Erwan David a écrit :
 I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

Both work, and dd will give terrible performance without extra options.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 15:05:59 -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:

 On 07/24/2015 02:55 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
 On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:
 Hi,
 I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
 saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it
 still has the same problem. The problem is when the installer
 gets to Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom
 how can I mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It
 boots and I can see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried
 putting this in when it asks where the cdrom is to no avail.
 please help sorry if this is not formatted well my good keyboard
 is on the machine I'm trying to install debian. I've tried
 installing older versions of debain as I saw someone say that
 the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that wouldn't work
 either.
 
 I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
 on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6
 
 tx in advance
 
 If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing
 from USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso
 files bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device
 (not to a partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as
 /dev/sdd1, cp the .iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition
 number). This will wipe out the entire stick, so make sure you
 don't have anything important on it.
 
 
 Just a thought.  Make sure your cd/dvd is the first item in the boot
 lineup of the BIOS.  IOW, go itno BIOS, go to boot  listing and set
 CD/DVD to the first in line then the HD second or after even the USB
 ports, if in the list.  HTH

This is a good piece of advice. But the only possible reason you think a
CD ROM is involved is because it is mentioned by the installer. Which
does not mean the OP used a CD.

The problem is that the installer doesn't know whether the image is on
a USB stick or a CD. Or, if it does, it doesn't inform the user. In
spite of many advancements in d-i it still deals in terms of CD-ROM.


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Erwan David
Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :
 On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:
 Hi,
 I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
 saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
 has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
 Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
 mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
 see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
 asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
 formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
 install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
 saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
 wouldn't work either.

 I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
 on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

 tx in advance

 If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
 USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
 bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
 partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
 .iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
 out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
 on it.



I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Whit Hansell



On 07/24/2015 02:55 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people 
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still 
has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to 
Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I 
mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can 
see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it 
asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not 
formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to 
install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I 
saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that 
wouldn't work either.


I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance


If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from 
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files 
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a 
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the 
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe 
out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important 
on it.



Just a thought.  Make sure your cd/dvd is the first item in the boot 
lineup of the BIOS.  IOW, go itno BIOS, go to boot  listing and set 
CD/DVD to the first in line then the HD second or after even the USB 
ports, if in the list.  HTH

Whit


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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Gary Dale

On 24/07/15 03:15 PM, Brian wrote:

On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:


Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
wouldn't work either.

I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance

If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
on it.



I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

From

   https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en

cp debian.iso /dev/sdX

cat can also be used.

We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
where the problem lies.


No, but I've seen the problem crop up before. I haven't seen it recently 
but remember it from the days before you could boot from a usb stick.



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Gary Dale

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people 
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still has 
the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to Detect and 
mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I mount my cdrom 
and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can see the drive in 
/dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it asks where the 
cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not formatted well 
my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to install debian. I've 
tried installing older versions of debain as I saw someone say that 
the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that wouldn't work either.


I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance


If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from 
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files 
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a 
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the 
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe out 
the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important on it.



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Gary Dale

On 24/07/15 03:21 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 24/07/15 03:15 PM, Brian wrote:

On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:


Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :

On 24/07/15 02:11 PM, Chris wrote:

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people
saying try the net install I've tried the net install and it still
has the same problem. The problem is when the installer gets to
Detect and mount CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I
mount my cdrom and tell the install where it is. It boots and I can
see the drive in /dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it
asks where the cdrom is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not
formatted well my good keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to
install debian. I've tried installing older versions of debain as I
saw someone say that the newer kernel doesn't support dell but that
wouldn't work either.

I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance

If it's having trouble installing from CD, you can try installing from
USB stick instead. Debian makes it easy by having their .iso files
bootable from CD or USB. Just cp the .iso to the USB device (not to a
partition on it). e.g. if your USB stick shows up as /dev/sdd1, cp the
.iso to /dev/sdd (note the lack of partition number). This will wipe
out the entire stick, so make sure you don't have anything important
on it.



I thiink you should dd the .iso to the stick, not cp

From

   https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en

cp debian.iso /dev/sdX

cat can also be used.

We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
where the problem lies.


No, but I've seen the problem crop up before. I haven't seen it 
recently but remember it from the days before you could boot from a 
usb stick.
As I recall, the problem was that booting from the CD reader takes place 
in the BIOS while accessing it from Linux needs a driver. If the CD 
reader needs a special driver, you could be in trouble.



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Re: Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Brian
On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 15:21:46 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:

 On 24/07/15 03:15 PM, Brian wrote:
 On Fri 24 Jul 2015 at 20:59:12 +0200, Erwan David wrote:
 
 Le 24/07/2015 20:55, Gary Dale a écrit :
 
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/install.txt.en
 
 cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
 
 cat can also be used.
 
 We have no idea how the OP wrote the ISO. If we knew that we might know
 where the problem lies.
 
 No, but I've seen the problem crop up before. I haven't seen it
 recently but remember it from the days before you could boot from a
 usb stick.

There should be no difference between booting from a correctly written 
CD or USB stick. I would stress correctly written. How the OP went
about it is a crucial bit of information which could be given to us.

I agree the USB situation seems a lot more reliable than the CD one was.


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Debian 8 problems w/ ASUS H61M-plus MB

2015-07-24 Thread Bob McKittrick
I tries all 7 bios's for this mb and all stop booting after the file check
w/ message 7.??? bios ? (unmounts) the drive. I reinstalled 7.2 and no
problems. using bios 903 now.
bob McKittrick


Help-Install not compatible with my PC

2015-07-24 Thread Chris

Hi,
I've looked every where but cant find anything other than people saying 
try the net install I've tried the net install and it still has the same 
problem. The problem is when the installer gets to Detect and mount 
CD-Rom it keeps saying no common cdrom how can I mount my cdrom and tell 
the install where it is. It boots and I can see the drive in 
/dev/disk/by-id I've tried putting this in when it asks where the cdrom 
is to no avail. please help sorry if this is not formatted well my good 
keyboard is on the machine I'm trying to install debian. I've tried 
installing older versions of debain as I saw someone say that the newer 
kernel doesn't support dell but that wouldn't work either.


I'm trying to install Debian-8-from-DVD-and-tried-netinst
on a DELL-optiplex-gx280, P4-1.6

tx in advance


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Re: Boot Error on new PowerPC Mac Mini Installation

2015-07-24 Thread Joel Rees
2015/07/25 1:42 Nathaniel Nelson nelson.nle...@gmail.com:

 Hello! I hope this is the proper way to seek Debian support, and that I'm not 
 making a mistake/emailing the wrong list/whatever.


There is a better list. I've cross-posted, but I haven't set the reply header.

 I've never used Debian before, and I'm trying to install it on an old Mac 
 Mini with a PowerPC G4 processor.

I'd suggest that you not do that, but I've been there, done that, so
it would be a bit hypocritical of me to do so.

If you have a spare AMD64 or x86 box, you'll find the road a little
smoother to play with debian on either of those first. But it isn't an
absolute requirement.

 I downloaded the PowerPC iso file (debian-8.1.0-powerpc-netinst.iso) and 
 burned it to an empty CD. I was able to successfully navigate the 
 installation process. A couple points of interest:

 * I chose to use the entire available hard drive space and set up LVM 
 (unencrypted). So I wiped Mac OS and all my old files from the computer.


I have often found myself needing to boot Mac OS 10 for odd reasons.
If you have the disk space, I'd recommend leaving a Mac OS 10 install
of about 6 to 20 GB.

 * I chose to use a single partition (the recommended/default choice) and 
 after writing partition changes to the hard drive I received a warning that 
 Yaboot would need its own partition.


I don't know about the default/recommended partition scheme on
Jessie, but I can't imagine single partition ever being a good idea on
a powerPC Mac. Unless you really like using openfirmware commands to
set the boot partition.

Unless things have drastically changed, yaboot, needs its own  very
small partition. Small can be a problem, too. Incidentally, I don't
know about Jessie, but I've generally had the best success using the
Mac OS 10 partitioning tool to set up the three Mac OS style
partitions I use for debian, one for yaboot, one for the root
partition, and one for all the LVM stuff.

 [... stuff that you should forget for the time being.]

 I read that the installer isn't meant to install on top of another full 
 installation, and that most problems such as this can be fixed without a full 
 reinstall, so I haven't made a third attempt at reinstallation. What else 
 could potentially be the issue here?


Don't ask that question now.

 Thanks for any help. I can also supply more logs if you direct me to which 
 ones might be helpful.

Wipe it with the Mac OS 10 installer. Use the Mac OS 10 install to cut
a partition for Mac OS 10, and leave the rest unformatted. If you have
a 30G disk, cut the Mac OS 10 partition at about 6G. if you have 60G
or more, give the Mac OS 10 partition 10G. Again, leave the rest
unformatted.

Make sure Mac OS 10 still boots.

Boot the Debian installer, do not let it autoformat the whole disk, do
not let it install single partition. Use the custom partition option,
have it make a partition for yaboot. It should get the size right if
you tell it to make the partition for yaboot. Then have it make a
partition for root, in the range of 8G or more. Partition the rest to
LVM, and use your favorite partition scheme for that. But be aware
that a separate /usr partition is currently militated against, so
don't do that. Not this time.

Install, get it to boot, use it for a while, get used to the weirdness
of dual-booting with Mac OS 10, then re-install it for real. You'll
have a better idea what to the third time around.

Joel Rees

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CPUs just fancy pens.
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Re: Boot Error on new PowerPC Mac Mini Installation

2015-07-24 Thread Joel Rees
Should have re-read before I posted.

On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 1:36 PM, Joel Rees joel.r...@gmail.com wrote:
 [...] but I've generally had the best success using the
 Mac OS 10 partitioning tool to set up the three Mac OS style
 partitions I use for debian, one for yaboot, one for the root
 partition, and one for all the LVM stuff.

Call that, not three partitions, but one partition and an
unpartitioned region. I was trying to send you down two different
roads at once. Sorry about that. :-(

 [...]


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Re: Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread Philippe Gras

Le 24 juil. 2015 à 15:12, David Martin damart.vi...@gmail.com a écrit :

 J'avais lu une explication d'un incompétent sur le site de tromblon 01 .net 
 ou Comment ça marche (t-il) pour les grosses buze
 concernant le delta entre efi et le bios, c'était toi ?

Probablement, puisque ça n'a rien à voir avec la choucroute.

… et grosse buse, ça s'écrit avec un S. Comme les oiseaux :
https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/buse

 
 Ajoute les backports si ce n'est déjà fait, et recherche dedans.
 
 
 Le 24 juillet 2015 15:03, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit :
 Bonjour à toutes et à tous,
 
 savez-vous s'il existe un paquet semblable à ce que produit
 le moteur de Yahoo! Pipes avant qu'on ne définisse 1 input?
 
 Un système semblable à celui-ci :
 http://www.open-tickr.net/download.php
 
 Mais sans machin graphique, ni output.
 
 Soit, un truc dont je pourrais customiser les in-outputs sur un
 plugin pour un CMS lambda…
 
 Yahoo! Pipes va bientôt fermer. Pour l'instant, je suis en train
 de faire un parseur en PHP, mais c'est assez gourmand…
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Re: error al hacer update e instalar

2015-07-24 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:24:25 +, Reyder Hidalgo escribió:

 gracias camaleón, pero no es el caso. Aca te copio mi sources.list

(...)

Cuando una máquina te dice algo conviene hacerle caso¹ ;-)

Si no tienes el repositorio de Google en el archivo /etc/apt/
sources.list lo tendrás definido en otro sitio pero estar tiene que 
estar. 

Prueba con:

grep -i google.com /etc/apt/*/*

¹Salvo que se trate de máquinas exterminadoras de humanos como HAL o  
Terminator.

Saludos,

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Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-24 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 24.07.2015 um 13:48 schrieb Thomas Schmitt:
 But here i suspect to be victim of some fancy new feature
 of udev or kernel. My list of usual suspects is empty now.
 So i ask for new ones.

Not sure if the in-kernel polling enabled in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-block.rules 
triggers this specific behaviour for this particular drive.

Can you comment out the following two lines:
ACTION==add, SUBSYSTEM==module, KERNEL==block, 
ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}==0, \
  ATTR{parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs}=2000



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Re: Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread Philippe Gras

Le 24 juil. 2015 à 15:16, honeyshell honeysh...@honeyshell.com a écrit :

 Tu recherches quelque chose dans ce style : 
 https://github.com/nikic/PHP-Parser

Oui, on dirait bien :-) Il faut que j'y regarde de plus près.


 
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Re: Instalar Gnome desde la ISO

2015-07-24 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:36:52 -0430, Yair De la cruz escribió:

(ese html...)

 Buenas tardes Comunidad Me gustaria saber como hago para instalar Gnome
 desde la imagen ISO que me descarge desde la pagina official
 https://www.gnome.org/.
 Quiero hacerlo via consola Saludos.

Hum... a ver, si te refieres a la imagen que hay en esta página¹ (Try 
the latest release) además de que no creo que sea instalable (es una 
LiveCD de pruebas y por lo que leo basada en openSUSE Tumbleweed), tienes 
las instrucciones detalladas en la misma página para grabar la imagen en 
una llave USB.

Pero si quieres instalar GNOME mejor que descargues la LiveCD de Debian 
testing que lleva GNOME 3.16.

¹https://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/

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Re: Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread David Martin
J'avais lu une explication d'un incompétent sur le site de tromblon 01
.net ou Comment ça marche (t-il) pour les grosses buze
concernant le delta entre efi et le bios, c'était toi ?

Ajoute les backports si ce n'est déjà fait, et recherche dedans.


Le 24 juillet 2015 15:03, Philippe Gras ph.g...@worldonline.fr a écrit :

 Bonjour à toutes et à tous,

 savez-vous s'il existe un paquet semblable à ce que produit
 le moteur de Yahoo! Pipes avant qu'on ne définisse 1 input?

 Un système semblable à celui-ci :
 http://www.open-tickr.net/download.php

 Mais sans machin graphique, ni output.

 Soit, un truc dont je pourrais customiser les in-outputs sur un
 plugin pour un CMS lambda…

 Yahoo! Pipes va bientôt fermer. Pour l'instant, je suis en train
 de faire un parseur en PHP, mais c'est assez gourmand…
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Re: Moteur de lecteur de flux RSS sur Debian

2015-07-24 Thread honeyshell
Tu recherches quelque chose dans ce style : https://github.com/nikic/PHP-Parser

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cups/cups-browsed: only advertise online network printers

2015-07-24 Thread Tuxo Holic
Hi list,
I' have a HP LaserJet 1020 USB - plugged to my server running debian/stable 
with cups, the clients connect to it using cups-browsed and the cups network 
protocol.
The server does *not* run 24/7 nor does my printer: I usually switch on the 
LaserJet as soon as I need it and disable it once I'm done. Cups does ignore 
the fact it is not running: it will advertise the printer, clients can see it 
and start printing jobs already. Once the printer comes online, the waiting 
jobs will be processed all at once. Some people might prefer this approach, I'd 
prefer network printers to be invisible on the client side, as long as they are 
not online. The main reason is: this can confuse people and lead to additional 
printing jobs until they realize their mistake of not switching on the device.
Is it possible to limit job handling to *online* printers only on the client or 
on the server side?
Regards,
TuxoHolic
  

Openvpn com 2 links (um para VPN outro para navegar)

2015-07-24 Thread Keppler

Olá pessoal, tudo bem?
Tenho o seguinte cenário:

Na Matriz:
- Um link dedicado (4 megas full) por onde pretendo criar uma VPN para 
comunicação com a filial.
- Um link ADSL que será utilizado para os usuários navegarem (também 
será implementado um proxy)

- O Servidor tem 3 placas de rede:
eth0 = Lan
eth1 = Link dedicado
eth2 = ADSL

Na Filial:
- Um link dedicado (4 megas full) por onde pretendo criar uma VPN para 
comunicação com a MATRIZ.
- Um link ADSL que será utilizado para os usuários navegarem (também 
será implementado um proxy)

- O Servidor tem 3 placas de rede:
eth0 = Lan
eth1 = Link dedicado
eth2 = ADSL

É possível criar uma VPN fazendo essa separação? Ou seja, Matriz e 
Filial se comunicarem pelos links dedicados separando a navegação dos 
usuários para a conexão ADLS?


Minha dúvida também seria se eu definir como Gateway a conexão ADSL, 
então a VPN tenderia a sair pela conexão ADSL, mas, se ao contrário 
disso, eu definir o Gateway usando o IP do link dedicado, então todos 
passariam a navegar pelo link dedicado...


Em resumo, eu teria 2 gateways certo?Um do link dedicado e outro 
do ADSL.
Como faço para separar isso, ou seja, apontar para navegação dos 
usuarios o gateway do ADSL e...para a VPN o gateway do link dedicado.


Não sei se ficou claro, mas alguém pode me dar uma dica?

grato,
Jurgen



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Re: Debian Jessie click derecho y botones

2015-07-24 Thread Juan Lavieri

Hola Luis.


El 24/07/15 a las 17:27, l...@ida.cu escibió:

Buenas tardes

Tengo isntalado Debian Jessie 64 bit con Gnome


Entiendo que usas gnome-shell ¿Cierto?



1. El caso es que en Archivos no puedo dar click-derecho para crear 
archivo texto como hacia en Debian Wheezy con Gnome.


Cierto no puedes.

Pero puedes realizar algo parecido, veamos:



Tengo instalado Gdit.


Me imagino que quisiste decir gedit ¿no? de todos modos debes abrir 
gedit para crear un documento _vacío_
Lo guardas con el nombre que desees en el directorio plantillas de tu 
directorio /home (me imagino que sera /home/luis/plantillas) .

Supongamos que lo llamaste Archivo Nuevo (sin las comillas, claro).

Ahora reinicias el gnome-shell, o sea alt + F2 y en la caja que 
aparece emites el comando r (sin las comillas claro).


Esperas que reinicie.

Abres archivos

Y ahora al lado de la X de cerrar hay tres barras, haces click y te 
aparece una opción que dice documento nuevo


Es lo mas parecido que tenemos.



2. En las ventanas no me aparecen los botones de minimizar y 
maximizar, alguna idea ???


Si, ¿para qué te hacen falta?  Es mas fácil mover el puntero del ratón a 
la esquina superior izquierda para minimizar y darle click sobre el que 
necesites para maximizar.


De todas formas si aún los quieres y para configurar un montón de cosas 
mas instala gnome-tweak-tool que dentro de gnome-shell se ejecuta con el 
nombre de herramienta de retoques.


Con esa herramienta podrás instalarle extensiones al gnome-shell que te 
pueden ser muy útiles, de hecho creo que hay varias que te muestran los 
menús de la forma clásica, o al menos eso intentan, pero todo eso te lo 
dejo para que lo investigues.


Te recuerdo que esa ruedita que parece un salvavidas que se encuentra en 
el dock de la izquierda es la ayuda de gnome, es bueno que la leas antes 
de preguntar.




Agradezco toda ayuda



Saludos.


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Re: Openvpn com 2 links (um para VPN outro para navegar)

2015-07-24 Thread Keppler

Olá Fábio, obrigado pelo retorno.
Mas essa documentação trata do caso clássico de interligar 2 REDES via VPN.
No meu caso, SIM, eu tenho duas redes!mas eu também 2 LINKS em cada 
ponta. É essa minha dúvida sobre como trabalhar com esses 2 links na 
situação que descrevi abaixo.


grato,
Jurgen

Em 24-07-2015 21:30, Fábio Rabelo escreveu:

Veja esta documentação :

http://www.shorewall.net/OPENVPN.html

Eu aconselharia a leitura completa, mas o que o Sr. procura é o ítem 
bridging two networks .



Fábio Rabelo

Em 24 de julho de 2015 21:25, Keppler jurgenkepp...@gmail.com 
mailto:jurgenkepp...@gmail.com escreveu:


Olá pessoal, tudo bem?
Tenho o seguinte cenário:

Na Matriz:
- Um link dedicado (4 megas full) por onde pretendo criar uma VPN
para comunicação com a filial.
- Um link ADSL que será utilizado para os usuários navegarem
(também será implementado um proxy)
- O Servidor tem 3 placas de rede:
eth0 = Lan
eth1 = Link dedicado
eth2 = ADSL

Na Filial:
- Um link dedicado (4 megas full) por onde pretendo criar uma VPN
para comunicação com a MATRIZ.
- Um link ADSL que será utilizado para os usuários navegarem
(também será implementado um proxy)
- O Servidor tem 3 placas de rede:
eth0 = Lan
eth1 = Link dedicado
eth2 = ADSL

É possível criar uma VPN fazendo essa separação? Ou seja, Matriz e
Filial se comunicarem pelos links dedicados separando a navegação
dos usuários para a conexão ADLS?

Minha dúvida também seria se eu definir como Gateway a conexão
ADSL, então a VPN tenderia a sair pela conexão ADSL, mas, se ao
contrário disso, eu definir o Gateway usando o IP do link
dedicado, então todos passariam a navegar pelo link dedicado...

Em resumo, eu teria 2 gateways certo?Um do link dedicado e
outro do ADSL.
Como faço para separar isso, ou seja, apontar para navegação dos
usuarios o gateway do ADSL e...para a VPN o gateway do link dedicado.

Não sei se ficou claro, mas alguém pode me dar uma dica?

grato,
Jurgen



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Re: détecter un nouveau répertoire#

2015-07-24 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 23/07/15 à 11:39, (•‿•)  Dhénin Jean-Jacques dhe...@gmail.com a écrit :

(DJJ $ more Vazy
(DJJ find . -newer Fantome -type d  | egrep -v '^\.$'
(DJJ touch Fantome
(DJJ 
(DJJ 
(DJJ 
(DJJ Le fichier Fantome sert de sentinelle.
(DJJ Si un répertoire a été créé find le signale
(DJJ et de toute façon la sentinelle se repositionne à une date plus recente.

Ça me parait une meilleure solution que de faire des diff sur des listes de 
dossiers à des
dates différentes

Ce que Jean-Jacques propose, c'est de lancer un script +/- régulièrement, qui 
sort tous les
dossiers créés depuis le dernier lancement.

Il utilise le fichier Fantome comme mémoire du dernier lancement (sa date de 
modification)

Dans un script plus complet, ça donnerait qqchose comme

# le nom du fichier dont la date de modif correspond au dernier lancement
# qui pourrait être aussi /tmp/$(basename $0).last (si ce fichier s'appelle 
toto.sh ça
# vaudra /tmp/toto.sh.last, mais ça peut être n'importe quel fichier, pourvu 
que personne
# d'autre n'y touche
fichierTest=Fantome

# différentes manières de virer le dossier .
#find . -newer $fichierTest -type d  | grep -v '^.$'i
#find . -newer $fichierTest -type d  | egrep -v '^\.$'
#find . -type d -name '??*' # seulement les dossiers de plus de 1 caractère

# mais si on veut virer le ./ de chaque fichier autant demander à sed
# /^\.$/ pour désigner .
# d pour l'effacer
# s@^\./@@ pour remplacer ./ par rien 
# (@ est un caractère arbitraire, pas / pour éviter de l'échapper avec /^\.\///)
find . -newer $fichierTest -type d | sed -e '/^\.$/d; s@^\./@@' | while read 
dossier
do
  # ici le script qui traite les dossier 1 par 1 avec $dossier
done

# Et si c'est juste pour envoyer la liste par mail
sujet=nouveaux dossier créés depuis $(date -r Fantome '+%F %T')
dest=t...@domaine.tld
find . -newer $fichierTest -type d | sed -e '/^\.$/d; s/^\.\///' | mail -s 
$sujet $dest

# Pour éviter les mails vides on stocke dans une chaine
liste=$(find . -newer $fichierTest -type d | sed -e '/^\.$/d; s/^\.\///')

# on envoie si elle n'est pas vide
[ -n $liste ]  echo $liste|mail -s $sujet $dest

# à la fin on reset la date de modif du fichier Fantome
touch $fichierTest

# pour éviter d'oublier un dossier qui serait créé pendant le traitement de 
résultat du find
# il faudrait mémoriser la date du fichier au début (man touch pour le format 
dont on aura
# besoin)
lancement=$(date '+%Y%m%d%H%M.%S')
# lancer find et traitement

# mettre la date du début du lancement de ce script
touch -t $lancement $fichierTest

Et ensuite lancer de script au rythme où on veut être prévenu

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Sénèque.

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Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Celejar wrote:
 https://github.com/deanproxy/eMail/issues/7

Yes. Some client glitch like this one combined with increased
pickiness on server side would explain the problem.

A sequence that works is for example
  EHLO scdbackup.webframe.org
  MAIL FROM:scdbac...@gmx.net
  AUTH PLAIN
  MAIL FROM:scdbac...@gmx.net
  RCPT TO:debian-user@lists.debian.org
  DATA
  QUIT

If i only could bring alpine (or stunnel) to logging the
SMTP traffic. 


 https://sesblog.amazon.com/post/Tx2XI5HYBCFC959/Debugging-SMTP-Conversation-Part-3-Analyzing-TCP-Packets

This will teach me more about networking than i ever
wanted to know.
But won't i get to see the encrypted SSL traffic ?

I'd rather need a proxy between alpine and stunnel.


Well, if no experienced alpine users show up (i am actually
used to its predecessor pine) then i will have to dig into
its source and try to make it verbous.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Re: alpine mail client with gmx.net as mail provider

2015-07-24 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 24 Jul 2015 11:49:51 +0200
Thomas Schmitt scdbac...@gmx.net wrote:

 Hi,
 
 after a few weeks of settling i got my Debian 8.1 nearly into
 the shape of its deceased predecessor (antique SuSE which died
 from southbridge radiator pop-off due to material fatigue).
 
 Two problems remain: alpine with mail provider GMX and /dev/sr1
 trying to bite my fingers.
 
 As for the first one:
 
 I cannot get alpine mail client to send mail via mail.gmx.net:465.
 It reports Bad sequence of commands which is probably SMTP error
 503.
 My own primitive SMTP client does work (by help of stunnel for SSL).
 
 Does anybody have a alpine configuration which currently works via
 SMTP with GMX (a major german mail provider) ?

I don't know alpine, but does this help?

https://github.com/deanproxy/eMail/issues/7

Additionally, you can try playing around with SSL vs. STARTTLS, or port
465 vs. 587

 Or proposals how to watch the SMTP traffic between alpine and
 the SMTP server ?

Does anything here help?

https://sesblog.amazon.com/post/Tx2XI5HYBCFC959/Debugging-SMTP-Conversations-Part-3-Analyzing-TCP-Packets

FWIW, I use gmx.com (is this the same as your gmx?) with Sylpheed, and
it works fine (port 465 with SSL, no STARTTLS).

Celejar


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Re: What pulls in the tray of my /dev/sr1 ?

2015-07-24 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Lisi Reisz wrote:
 I would expect it to be the DVD drive itself,

That would be the first one to do this since i began
to operate them on SCSI level in 2006. (I'm developer of
libburn.)

The drive is new. An LG GH24NSC0.
Regrettably it is built-in to the computer. So i cannot easily
make experiments with brainless power.


 turn the computer on, it will shut almost straight away.

That's a very different situation. Most drives pull in when
power is switched on. Then the boot firmware and the kernel
might be curious enough to issue START/STOP UNIT.

But here i suspect to be victim of some fancy new feature
of udev or kernel. My list of usual suspects is empty now.
So i ask for new ones.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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