Problem to apt-get dist-upgrade
Dear all, I run Debian Unstable. I haven't been able to do a apt-get dist-upgrade for some time now since it wants to remove some essential packages which after upgrading is not installable anymore, for example konsole and okular. The output from apt-get dist-upgrade is: Calculating upgrade... The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: g++-4.9 gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386 hdf5-helpers icu-devtools ipython isympy kdelibs-bin konsole-kpart liba52-0.7.4-dev libarpack2 libarpack2-dev libaudio2:i386 libavcodec-dev libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56:i386 libavformat-dev libavresample-ffmpeg2:i386 libavutil-dev libavutil-ffmpeg54:i386 libblacs-mpi-dev libblacs-openmpi1 libblas-dev libboost-chrono-dev libboost-filesystem-dev libboost-filesystem1.55.0 libboost-iostreams1.55.0 libboost-math-dev libboost-mpi-dev libboost-program-options-dev libboost-program-options1.55.0 libboost-regex1.58.0 libboost-serialization-dev libboost-thread1.55.0 libboost-timer-dev libbtf1.2.0 libcdparanoia0:i386 libcf0 libcsparse3.1.2 libcxsparse3.1.2 libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libdc1394-22-dev libdolfin1.5 libeigen3-dev libexiv2-14 libfaac-dev libfaad-dev libfftw3-mpi-dev libfftw3-mpi3 libfontconfig1-dev libfreetype6-dev libgl2ps-dev libgl2ps0 libgomp1:i386 libgsm1-dev libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:i386 libgstreamer1.0-0:i386 libhdf5-8 libhdf5-cpp-8 libhdf5-dev libhdf5-mpi-dev libhdf5-openmpi-8 libhdf5-openmpi-dev libhypre-2.8.0b libhypre-dev libicu-dev libjs-jquery-ui libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data libkf5auth5 libkf5bookmarks-data libkf5bookmarks5 libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5 libkf5completion-data libkf5completion5 libkf5config-bin libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5 libkf5configwidgets-data libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5coreaddons-data libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-bin libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5globalaccel-bin libkf5globalaccel-data libkf5globalaccel5 libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5i18n-data libkf5i18n5 libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5itemviews-data libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5jobwidgets5 libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5 libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications5 libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5 libkf5par ts-data libkf5parts-plugins libkf5parts5 libkf5pty-data libkf5pty5 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data libkf5service5 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5windowsystem-data libkf5windowsystem5 libkf5xmlgui-bin libkf5xmlgui-data libkf5xmlgui5 libkjsembed4 libklu1.2.1 libkntlm4 libkrosscore4 liblapack-dev liblcms2-2:i386 libldl2.1.0 libmng1:i386 libmp3lame-dev libmumps-4.10.0 libmumps-dev libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libnetcdf-dev libnetcdf7 libnetcdfc++4 libnetcdfc7 libnetcdff5 libogg-dev libopencore-amrnb-dev libopencore-amrwb-dev liborc-0.4-dev libparpack2 libpetsc3.4.2 libpetsc3.4.2-dev libphonon4qt5-4 libpng12-dev libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libptscotch-5.1 libptscotch-dev libqt4-dbus:i386 libqt4-network:i386 libqt4-opengl:i386 libqt4-xml:i386 libqt4-xmlpatterns:i386 libqt5core5a libqt5dbus5 libqt5gui5 libqt5network5 libqt5printsupp ort5 libqt5script5 libqt5svg5 libqt5test5 libqt5widgets5 libqt5x11extras5 libqt5xml5 libqtcore4:i386 libqtdbus4:i386 libqtgui4:i386 libqtwebkit4:i386 libraw1394-dev libraw1394-tools libscalapack-mpi-dev libscalapack-openmpi1 libschroedinger-dev libscotch-5.1 libscotch-dev libshine3:i386 libslepc3.4.2 libslepc3.4.2-dev libsoxr0:i386 libspooles-dev libspooles2.2 libspqr1.3.1 libsqlite3-0:i386 libssl1.0.0:i386 libsuitesparse-dev libsuperlu-dev libsuperlu4 libswresample-dev libswresample-ffmpeg1:i386 libswscale-dev libtheora-dev libtwolame0:i386 libvorbis-dev libvtk5-dev libvtk5-qt4-dev libvtk5.8 libvtk5.8-qt4 libwavpack1:i386 libwebp5:i386 libx264-146:i386 libx264-dev libxcb-xkb1 libxft-dev libxkbcommon-x11-0 libxml2-dev libxss-dev libxt6:i386 libxv1:i386 libxvidcore-dev linux-headers-4.0.0-2-amd64 linux-headers-4.0.0-2-common linux-image-4.0.0-2-amd64 linux-kbuild-4.0 mpi-default-bin openmpi-bin pgadmin3-data pyro python-colorama python-dateutil python-decorator python-distlib python- ffc python-fiat python-funcsigs python-gmpy python-instant python-matplotlib python-matplotlib-data python-mock python-mpmath python-netcdf python-pbr python-pip python-pmw python-pyglet python-pyx python-scientific python-scitools python-simplegeneric python-sympy python-tz python-ufl python-ufl-doc python-vtk python-wheel qttranslations5-l10n sonnet-plugins swig swig2.0 tcl-vtk tcl8.5-dev tk8.5-dev x11proto-scrnsaver-dev Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. Done The following packages will be REMOVED: dolfin-bin dolfin-doc fenics katepart kde-runtime kdelibs5-plugins
Re: no pulse audio- so now new sound trouble
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:07:11PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:34:30 +0200 [...] i'll give it a try. again notice that this is a problem report from 3 years ago. this is a persistent problem, and almost certainly the reason i probably installed pulse audio. Perhaps I should try to get some sound out of my browser, just to check this... regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXVfU8ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZ2HACfUa1jrS2IJSN2WacegKlUg8JD xJIAniNjC/0KI/Ryg643MKfhLgZ3vowy =jrRh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [OT] Error al copiar en disco duro
Señores. Muy ocasionalmente respondo un correo y esta vez es para pedir que no ataquen a camaleón. En ocasiones se puede uno desesperar, pero aporta mucho y esta claro que su conocimiento es muy amplio El ago 19, 2015 10:15 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:30:05 -0300, Flako escribió: El día 19 de agosto de 2015, 10:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com Creo que se te olvida el hecho de que el disco está fallando ya, presenta errores de acceso al copiar datos lo cual te puede dejar el equipo medio colgado. Camaleon: yo noto que muchas veces contestas a lo que vos crees como son las cosas y no lees los link que estan para leeer... por mi esta bien.. se libre.. pero si manenes eso vas a mantener en tu estado de conocimiento (por no decir otra cosa) y no vas a aprender cosas nuevas.. ¿Qué links quieres que lea? Los que has enviado en el correo anterior los conozco, así como las aplicaciones que mencionas y es lo que te estoy refutando precisamente, que hablas de unas herramientas que da la impresión no has usado o que no sabes cómo funcionan. Y en tal caso, si mantenes esa postura lo lo opines como una verdad absoluta, te pido que siempre inicies el párrafo con yo creo que es: Pues mira, en este caso concreto no es que crea, es que lo sé porque lo he sufrido en mis propias carnes ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: Problem to apt-get dist-upgrade
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 09:12:19 +0200 (CEST) Magnus R mara...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I run Debian Unstable. I haven't been able to do a apt-get dist-upgrade for some time now since it wants to remove some essential packages which after upgrading is not installable anymore, for example konsole and okular. Yes. Is there anything I can do to fix this? No. Or do I just have to wait until the packages I need are back to normal (that is installable). Yes. There is a new revision of the C libraries available. It is not compatible with [the existing compile state of] some of your current packages, and some packages require it. If you want one of the new packages, whether for installation or upgrade, the new libraries are necessary, which in turn requires the removal of those packages which won't work with it. There is no way to satisfy the requirements, until the existing incompatible packages are made to work with the new libraries. There's probably only a small number directly involved, but the large web of dependencies spreads the trouble to hundreds of packages. If you have aptitude installed, and if you don't it's too late to install the current version, you might try an aptitude full-upgrade. This is equivalent to the apt-get dist-upgrade, but with better dependency resolution. I don't think you will gain much, my aptitude goes away and thinks for a while, and then gives up, something I've never seen happen before. It offers to spend longer looking, but it isn't going to find an answer. I presume you are still doing an apt-get upgrade, which should deal with most of the packages which aren't involved in the current mess. I'm seeing aptitude safe-upgrade working for twenty to thirty packages a day. You might, with very careful cherry-picking, manage another two or three, which I was doing using Synaptic. I've given up now, as it's not worth wading through over two hundred to find a couple which work. -- Joe
RE: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
Hi, In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space. Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be displayed as a normal space? (For example, in the shell, as in the OP's original question.) It seems a recipe for confusion at best, and for exploits at worst. I do not understand if you are specifically asking for the relevance of the NO-BREAK SPACE or just in the case of the console. In general the no-break space is used in a lot of languages where a Dutch word like 's morgens consist of 2 parts that should always stay together and not have the 's on the end of one line and the morgens on the next. The no-brake space can also be used when writing about money and I would write $ 500 and I would not want the $ to be at the end of one line and the number to be at the next line. If you are talking about console use, indeed I would not know why I would want / need it there. Bonno Bloksma
Re: no pulse audio- so now new sound trouble
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 07:34:30 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 07:06:50PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 07:25:09 +0200 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 09:13:20PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Audacious works because it allows me to select the audio device. However playing audio in iceweasel does not work. Have you tried to select the sound card with alsamixer? i forgot to say, the correct audio output comes up as default device in alsamixer. This sounds bizarre. The only hit I find in the intratubes matching what you describe is here: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=20271 which might be interpreted as the browser is using slot 0, regardless of what the user chooses. I still can't quite believe that, but it might something to try. i'll give it a try. again notice that this is a problem report from 3 years ago. this is a persistent problem, and almost certainly the reason i probably installed pulse audio. Brian
Re: problema con el correo web en debian 8 64bit
El 2015-08-20 9:44, Camaleón escribió: El Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:49:23 -0400, luis escribió: Buenas tardes a todos (...) Luis, ya te hemos respondido en otro hilo a esta misma pregunta. Si tienes algún problema con lo comentado, nos lo dices pero no abras un hilo nuevo para un mismo problema. Saludos, Ahh no me di cuenta, es que estaba en cosas de hospitalmis disculpas Ya me funcionó el webmail, gracias a todos los que me han respondidp y aquí dejo todo lo que lo solucionaba Se modifica el archivo /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, e incluimos la linea: Alias /webmail/ /usr/share/squirrelmail/ con esto es más que suficiente. Ahora me queda instalar y configurar 1. El antivirus para postfix-dovecot. 2. Algo para spam 3. limitar algunos usuarios a enviar y recibir 4 MB en adjunto y otros a 8 MB de adjuntos como máximo 4. Generador de bitácoras via web como el sarg pero para correo. Es primera vez que instalo un servidor de correo con postfix estaba usando Zentyal. Zimbra es muy pesado consume mucho, por ahora me quedo con postfix-dovecot. Que otro ambiente web hay para esto ??? roundcube no se si existe algo mejor y ligero. Acepto todas las sugerencias Gracias a todos
Re: [testing] paquets non authentifiés
Le Thu, 20 Aug 2015 08:58:54 +0200 maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit: Le 19/08/2015 13:36, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Bonjour, Depuis quelques jours je constate que les paquets ne sont plus authentifiés. Comment cela se fait-il ? PS: je suis sur le miroir ftp2.fr.debian.org Salut Ceci est arrivé maint fois. Dans ce cas là, je change de dépôt. Je suis repassé sur ftp.fr est tout est rentré dans l'ordre ... Gaëtan
Re: problema con el correo web en debian 8 64bit
El Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:59:29 -0400, luis escribió: El 2015-08-20 9:44, Camaleón escribió: (...) Luis, ya te hemos respondido en otro hilo a esta misma pregunta. Si tienes algún problema con lo comentado, nos lo dices pero no abras un hilo nuevo para un mismo problema. Ahh no me di cuenta, es que estaba en cosas de hospitalmis disculpas Ya me funcionó el webmail, gracias a todos los que me han respondidp y aquí dejo todo lo que lo solucionaba Se modifica el archivo /etc/apache2/apache2.conf, e incluimos la linea: Alias /webmail/ /usr/share/squirrelmail/ con esto es más que suficiente. Pues perfecto :-) Ahora me queda instalar y configurar 1. El antivirus para postfix-dovecot. ClamaAV trabaja bastante bien. 2. Algo para spam El combo SpamAssassin + AmavisdNew se integra bien con Postfix. 3. limitar algunos usuarios a enviar y recibir 4 MB en adjunto y otros a 8 MB de adjuntos como máximo Para esto necesitarás Policyd. 4. Generador de bitácoras via web como el sarg pero para correo. Si quieres estadísticas con grafiquitos y esas cosas te puede servir AWStats, pero a mí no me terminó de convencer, me gustó mas pflogsumm pero te da sólo texto frío y no sé si aún existirá :-? Otra opción es usar un graficador para Postfix si ya usas RRDd (Mailgraph). Es primera vez que instalo un servidor de correo con postfix estaba usando Zentyal. Zimbra es muy pesado consume mucho, por ahora me quedo con postfix-dovecot. ¿Verdad que sí? Mucho mejor :-) Que otro ambiente web hay para esto ??? roundcube no se si existe algo mejor y ligero. ¿Para el webmail? Opta por alguno que se integre bien con Dovecot. Tienes Horde pero personalmente se me antoja muy feote. Roundcube es más chic y también tira de PHP. Saludos, -- Camaleón
kde5 - the problems do not stop
Hello list, upgrading in debian/testing let me install kde5. Although I got some problems at the beginning, I managed to get it working. However, some minor problems still occured, for example sddm will not start and the process konsole will not end, although I closed konsole. But these are minor problems, as I can change to kdm or lxdm, and for konsole I can kill the process manually. But now, after my last update, KDE will not start. The splashscreen of KDE5 is starting, its progress bar fullfilles to the end and then it hangs. I reverted the last libs and packages (of the last update, where it was working), but got no success. Additionally I moved ~/.kde from my home- directory, with the same result. IMO it could be caused by the mix of kde4 and kde5 libs and packages. Of course, I could revert to debian/stable or maybe to debian/unstable, but both solutions brings a lot other disadvantages. I do not believe the users could do much, as it is a problem with the packages and their versions. IMO it would help, if all KDE5 dependencies would be available in debian/testing, not only in debian/unstable. To remove all kde4 packages is no good idea, as it will affect a lot of other kde applications, which the user might not want to deinstall. Yes, I admit, we are at the moment in an unlucky situation, and I admit, I have no solution for it. For the users I only can give the advice: Do not update your running system, when you are running debian/stable. If you are running debian/stable - leave it that way! Debian/stable is running fine, no problems here. Maybe someone has more ideas and maybe someone has an idea, why KDE5 is no starting no more. Would be appreciated! Hope, this helps a little bit. Best regards Hans
Re: Anyone else having password failures at pop.gmail.com?
On Thursday 20 August 2015 06:15:40 Gene Heskett wrote: I'm not having problems. So far. Your email came via Gmail, and I'll send this via Gmail and see if it goes through. If it arrives, it did. ;-) Lisi Not much of a test Lisi. You asked if other people were having problems, I thought. That tested that I am not. So if it isn't much of a test, then I was answering the wrong problem. Lisi
Re: Sobre headers y virtualbox
Sorry, que ayer me tuve que ir... Sip...el tema de tener tiempo es fundamental para hacer las cosas bien... Bueno Camaleón esto es lo que sale: dpkg -l | grep -i -e linux-headers -e build-essential ii build-essential11.6 i386 Informational list of build-essential packages ii linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 i386 Header files for Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae ii linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 i386 Common header files for Linux 3.16.0-4 ii linux-headers-686-pae 3.16+63 i386 Header files for Linux 686-pae configuration (meta-package) Slds, El día 19 de agosto de 2015, 19:47, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:23:56 +0200, Alba Ferri escribió: Pues no se qué elegí para instalar la debian, pero la cuestion es que me daba error el apt-get update upgrade, por lo que os digo que no encontraba los paquetes i686 en el main y al añadir la arq se solucino... Cuando se tiene un problema es mejor parar y resolverlo antes de seguir con otras cosas porque al final se te va a volver en tu contra :-) La lista de arquitecturas que admite Debian es esta: https://www.debian.org/ports/index.en.html Básicamente, dentro de los 32 bits encuentras agrupados a i386/i486/i586/ i686, por lo tanto, ese error que dices que te aparecía (tal y como lo describes) no es normal y habría que analizarlo a fondo. Acabo de desinstalar y volver a instalar vitualbox y al final: ¿Y qué pasó con el paquete linux-headers-*? :-? Supongo que habrás seguido los pasos de la wiki para instalar los paquetes: https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 (...) Building only for 3.14-1-686-pae Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed. (...) Aquí te dice que no se ha podido generar el módulo para el kernel actual porque no encuentra las fuentes, de ahí que te falle luego al cargar el módulo de virtualbox. Ejecuta y manda a la lista lo siguiente: dpkg -l | grep -i -e linux-headers -e build-essential Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: [testing] paquets non authentifiés
Le 19/08/2015 13:36, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit : Bonjour, Depuis quelques jours je constate que les paquets ne sont plus authentifiés. Comment cela se fait-il ? PS: je suis sur le miroir ftp2.fr.debian.org Salut Ceci est arrivé maint fois. Dans ce cas là, je change de dépôt. -- Maderios
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
On 20/08/15 06:59, Bonno Bloksma wrote: If you are talking about console use, indeed I would not know why I would want / need it there. Because you might be using your terminal to edit an input file for a document processing system which contains the character, or to create new files that contain the character. The terminal has no really reliable way of determining what you're doing in the terminal, so can't legitimately decide *for you* whether it should be doing magic to mark your no-break spaces as not being regular spaces (and/or convert no-break spaces in its input into regular spaces). Even individual terminal-interactive programs would be on somewhat shaky ground making that decision. One could reasonably argue for squelch no-break spaces in input as a toggleable feature of terminal emulators, but I suspect that there's room for Excitement with such a feature. So all in all, the best way to deal with this is almost certainly for the status quo to be left intact (Alt-Spacebar emits U+00A0 NO-BREAK SPACE), and for users who don't like the status quo to modify their X keymaps to make Alt-Spacebar emit U+0020 SPACE instead.SPACE.
Re: Problem to apt-get dist-upgrade
Magnus R mara...@gmail.com wrote: Is there anything I can do to fix this? Or do I just have to wait until the packages I need are back to normal (that is installable). There are several very big libary and compiler transitions going on at the moment. You can upgrade upgradable packages by using only apt upgrade instead of dist-upgrade, but other than that you just have to wait. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
Re: Problem to apt-get dist-upgrade
Is there anything I can do to fix this? Or do I just have to wait until the packages I need are back to normal (that is installable). There are several very big libary and compiler transitions going on at the moment. You can upgrade upgradable packages by using only apt upgrade instead of dist-upgrade, but other than that you just have to wait. Ok that is what I suspected. Thank you so much! Cheers, Magnus Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.
Re: Lenteur mailq et bizarrerie sudo + timeout
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 01:06:59PM +0200, Grégory Bulot wrote: Bonjour, Bonjour, - avez-vous exécuter la commande strace sur le process mailq ? Non je ne l'avais pas fait. Par contre j'avais hier un tty qui consommais 20% de cpu, après un kill de ce tty (ouais, je suis un peu bourrin), plus de latence mailq Merci pour l'information, j'aurais pas pensé que c'était un tty qui aurait posé problème. D'autre part même si ce n'est pas en rapport direct, il existe un plugin nagios qui permet de monitorer une file d'attente (check_mailq) : http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/monitoring-email-nagios Je regarderais pour l'utiliser sous xymon :-) Bon hack ;) -- Soliman Hindy signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Starting, installing Redmine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:21:24PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 08/19/2015 10:17 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:55:46PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 08/19/2015 12:52 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: [...] 8. cp /usr/share/doc/redmine/examples/apache2-passenger-alias.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/ AND WHERE DOES IT SAY TO DO THIS. Fixed This might be a bug in the documentation. OTOH, if you could do steps 9-10, /etc/apache2/sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf must have been present, because basically: When I got to step 8, I actually fixed the problem by doing the cp that you suggested. After that I could do the rest of the steps without errors. OK. 9. a2ensite apache2-passenger-alias just symlinks /etc/apache2/sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled. The command would have probably complained about the missing file in sites-available. 10. edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf, set servername to localhost You couldn't have done this unless the file in (8) already had been present. OK -- to help debug that, could you please try the following: - - list the directory /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and make sure that there is an entry apache2-passenger-alias.conf there (and that this entry is a simlink to the file of the same name in /etc/apache2/sites-available)? - - show us the content of this file? I'm sorry that I haven't access to a Jessie system at the moment, otherwise I'd try out myself regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXVYtkACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYq2ACfdPgAJM8AedNlGc7tWMlgX8L0 AfAAn3qVPtiYrepu3fIQ9YTAeepD/FA3 =FLrC -END PGP SIGNATURE- content of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/sites-enabled# ll total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Apr 28 00:22 000-default.conf - ../sites-available/000-default.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 47 Aug 19 18:42 apache2-passenger-alias.conf - ../sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Aug 17 19:37 redmine.conf - ../sites-available/redmine.conf And content of /etc/apache2/sites-available root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/sites-available# ll total 20 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1472 Aug 19 12:33 000-default.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 739 Aug 19 18:43 apache2-passenger-alias.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6437 Feb 1 2015 default-ssl.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 529 Aug 19 12:53 redmine.conf This looks sane so far. Although I'm a bit confused by seeing a apache2-passenger-alias *and* a redmine conf. But that might be OK. And the content of apache2-passenger-alias.conf # The passenger module (from the libapache2-mod-passenger package) must be # enabled VirtualHost *:80 # ServerName localhost # this is the passenger config RailsEnv production SetEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default SetEnv RAILS_RELATIVE_URL_ROOT /redmine PassengerDefaultUser www-data # apache2 serves public files Alias /redmine/plugin_assets/ /var/cache/redmine/default/plugin_assets/ Alias /redmine /usr/share/redmine/public Location /redmine PassengerBaseURI /redmine PassengerAppRoot /usr/share/redmine /Location Directory /usr/share/redmine/public Allow from all Options -MultiViews Require all granted /Directory /VirtualHost Looks sane too. Are the directories /usr/share/redmine and /usr/share/redmine/public populated and readable by user www-data? What about /var/cache/redmine/...? (this possibly needs to be writable by www-data as well, I don't know for sure). What do the apache logs (/var/log/apache/...) say (especially the error.log at start)? Regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXVg10ACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZ8UwCfYWQwK0bO18jmrpGOKtAInWsM ERQAoIFYbfzmo07Vg+dR5m/FEYrX91Jy =TbYE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop
But now, after my last update, KDE will not start. The splashscreen of KDE5 is starting, its progress bar fullfilles to the end and then it hangs. I had the same issue and fixed it by reverting libkdecorations2-5 and libkdecorations2private5 to 5.3.2-1 as indicated in [1]. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794581#117 -- Gabriel
Re: Sobre headers y virtualbox
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:34:38PM +0200, Alba Ferri wrote: Tengo una Debian 8. uname -a Linux debianita 3.14-1-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.14.12-1 (2014-07-11) i686 GNU/Linux No, no tienes Debian 8. Debian 8 viene con Linux 3.16. Si no lo tienes instalado, o teniéndolo instalado no lo estás usando, no tienes Debian 8 todavía. Lo que parece es que has instalado jessie antes de que fuera estable, y todavía no te has actualizado del todo. Actualízate del todo al jessie de hoy y reinicia, entonces tendrás el núcleo de Debian 8 y entonces será cuando los manuales y tutoriales que sugieren usar uname -r te funcionarán de verdad.
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
On 08/20/2015 01:59 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space. Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be displayed as a normal space? (For example, in the shell, as in the OP's original question.) It seems a recipe for confusion at best, and for exploits at worst. I do not understand if you are specifically asking for the relevance of the NO-BREAK SPACE or just in the case of the console. In general the no-break space is used in a lot of languages where a Dutch word like 's morgens consist of 2 parts that should always stay together and not have the 's on the end of one line and the morgens on the next. The no-brake space can also be used when writing about money and I would write $ 500 and I would not want the $ to be at the end of one line and the number to be at the next line. If you are talking about console use, indeed I would not know why I would want / need it there. Bonno Bloksma The expression look like is a bit ambiguous, as it can mean either look *approximately* like or look *exactly like. Perhaps we can all agree that a non-break space should look similar to a regular space, but *not* be visually indistinguishable from it. I can see at least one console usage for a non-break space (and there could always be other uses invented in future which we can't foresee now): If someone wants to use a CLI utility to search for, and possibly do some replacement of, an expression containing a non-break space, then of course they'd need to type the non-break space in the console. For example, if you wanted to mass-edit old (pre-non-break-space) documents to include the non-break space character, you'd probably want to run a command to replace 's morgens' with 'snon-break spacemorgens' in the console.
Re: Starting, installing Redmine
On 08/19/2015 10:17 PM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:55:46PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: On 08/19/2015 12:52 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: [...] 8. cp /usr/share/doc/redmine/examples/apache2-passenger-alias.conf /etc/apache2/sites-available/ AND WHERE DOES IT SAY TO DO THIS. Fixed This might be a bug in the documentation. OTOH, if you could do steps 9-10, /etc/apache2/sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf must have been present, because basically: When I got to step 8, I actually fixed the problem by doing the cp that you suggested. After that I could do the rest of the steps without errors. 9. a2ensite apache2-passenger-alias just symlinks /etc/apache2/sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf to /etc/apache2/sites-enabled. The command would have probably complained about the missing file in sites-available. 10. edit /etc/apache2/sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf, set servername to localhost You couldn't have done this unless the file in (8) already had been present. OK -- to help debug that, could you please try the following: - - list the directory /etc/apache2/sites-enabled and make sure that there is an entry apache2-passenger-alias.conf there (and that this entry is a simlink to the file of the same name in /etc/apache2/sites-available)? - - show us the content of this file? I'm sorry that I haven't access to a Jessie system at the moment, otherwise I'd try out myself regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXVYtkACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYq2ACfdPgAJM8AedNlGc7tWMlgX8L0 AfAAn3qVPtiYrepu3fIQ9YTAeepD/FA3 =FLrC -END PGP SIGNATURE- content of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/sites-enabled# ll total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Apr 28 00:22 000-default.conf - ../sites-available/000-default.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 47 Aug 19 18:42 apache2-passenger-alias.conf - ../sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Aug 17 19:37 redmine.conf - ../sites-available/redmine.conf And content of /etc/apache2/sites-available root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/sites-available# ll total 20 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1472 Aug 19 12:33 000-default.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 739 Aug 19 18:43 apache2-passenger-alias.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6437 Feb 1 2015 default-ssl.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 529 Aug 19 12:53 redmine.conf And the content of apache2-passenger-alias.conf # The passenger module (from the libapache2-mod-passenger package) must be # enabled VirtualHost *:80 # ServerName localhost # this is the passenger config RailsEnv production SetEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default SetEnv RAILS_RELATIVE_URL_ROOT /redmine PassengerDefaultUser www-data # apache2 serves public files Alias /redmine/plugin_assets/ /var/cache/redmine/default/plugin_assets/ Alias /redmine /usr/share/redmine/public Location /redmine PassengerBaseURI /redmine PassengerAppRoot /usr/share/redmine /Location Directory /usr/share/redmine/public Allow from all Options -MultiViews Require all granted /Directory /VirtualHost I hope this helps Gary R,
Re: Starting, installing Redmine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/20/2015 09:35 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: content of /etc/apache2/sites-enabled root@supercrunch:/etc/apache2/sites-enabled# ll total 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Apr 28 00:22 000-default.conf - ../sites-available/000-default.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 47 Aug 19 18:42 apache2-passenger-alias.conf - ../sites-available/apache2-passenger-alias.conf lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 31 Aug 17 19:37 redmine.conf - ../sites-available/redmine.conf This looks sane so far. Although I'm a bit confused by seeing a apache2-passenger-alias *and* a redmine conf. But that might be OK. I would disable the redmine.conf as it can overlap with apache2-passenger-alias.conf And it makes no sense to have 2 configs for the same application. And the content of apache2-passenger-alias.conf # The passenger module (from the libapache2-mod-passenger package) must be # enabled VirtualHost *:80 # ServerName localhost # this is the passenger config RailsEnv production SetEnv X_DEBIAN_SITEID default SetEnv RAILS_RELATIVE_URL_ROOT /redmine PassengerDefaultUser www-data # apache2 serves public files Alias /redmine/plugin_assets/ /var/cache/redmine/default/plugin_assets/ Alias /redmine /usr/share/redmine/public Location /redmine PassengerBaseURI /redmine PassengerAppRoot /usr/share/redmine /Location Directory /usr/share/redmine/public Allow from all Options -MultiViews Require all granted /Directory /VirtualHost You haven't set the ServerName . Please set it and restart apache2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJV1YeFAAoJEBz3khEbUiiwWaEQAKxnfyzvK3YCwrfS97ZtEy8x SMsqda+VPiThJGHvRlxwECu0TrxSKfmfOy4dbH0Nor/UDmsfez7gGOixvvXvWo9t r1j6bq3Ldt1fyiLshntHs+wCcxqcIx/xKy+U8P422mbbZyt7ck/z/lrciY4YWDJm ALYKilenWsewamcr4/QnMfh+s6MzyplA532kJZdJc04EXaPfFQYYKx8N5/DoDITB ol1Klsg+VI3M9op7QYOj7FXgjxLzxSfKucOLUc7yeJuRtKgyrZgak95IO1gQAOoB G6p4EUfMge6ktcJRJkt4TFWgPgi2wYfQLOFUBHRu9ZEXTelWEbH5mOSE3eVulmj9 1AKq+iatA90Q4IucwTXGDo/vA7yXikKJSqqrlEHN60ezNTJv/xHz1ffphOoUrnO2 3nYiWjC1zJt4RJrKe1vOwI/MfFunPEVMmVEx4i/MqrWI1/R7/c3YdH3EGWcJDCtq +LDStvnvzqd7K3NrGMp7lmb2K6MtpJr/QZn26DkLTIhx0H/6p+4648NUD2Wh4IQN lqvDdPrkAYt+ivR05kJe54MK/fzCg05ArtkoKIDdWy5FSnK6vCCPsXU5EKZ06AYt v7m4tj4r6JLQExxoabirqmJz6rqMQAGyKdKgjrJQ5SsQiLh8F2+gpz4rfIBIV3Iv SNhhkKFHVTdORXZ/J1vN =5jHH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Anyone else having password failures at pop.gmail.com?
On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 08:39:35 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015 06:15:40 Gene Heskett wrote: I'm not having problems. So far. Your email came via Gmail, and I'll send this via Gmail and see if it goes through. If it arrives, it did. ;-) Lisi Not much of a test Lisi. You asked if other people were having problems, I thought. That tested that I am not. So if it isn't much of a test, then I was answering the wrong problem. I have no problem collecting mail from a gmail account. His problem is probably his setup. openssl s_client -connect pop.gmail.com:995 [SSL negotiation snipped] user ghesk...@shentel.net +OK send PASS pass password1 -ERR [AUTH] Username and password not accepted. Gene should have better luck because the password is known to him.
Re: Starting, installing Redmine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 09:53:52AM +0200, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: I would disable the redmine.conf as it can overlap with apache2-passenger-alias.conf And it makes no sense to have 2 configs for the same application. Here's where my lack of knowledge shows. [...] You haven't set the ServerName . Please set it and restart apache2 Good catch, Alex -- this probably is it! regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXVl00ACgkQBcgs9XrR2ka6OgCfU/O0LAH6XuvaUEtJr6bQpYU5 NOQAn0DPOjWgqe61EFlwhY3FHyYLoFGv =HH8+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: VC keyboard configuration
Hi, David Wright wrote: An important file is /etc/console-setup/cached_UTF-8_del.kmap.gz What I haven't worked out is: what puts this cache file together? It's obviously been constructed because near the end it says: # The content of this file will be appended to the keyboard layout. followed by commented examples of changes one might make. Where was the so-called this file found when this cache was constructed? On Debian 8.1: # fgrep -r 'will be appended to the keyboard layout' /etc yields /etc/console-setup/remap.inc:# The content of this file will be appended to the keyboard layout. remap.inc looks like the tail of my cached_UTF-8_del.kmap.gz. # fgrep -r 'remap.inc' /usr /usr/bin/ckbcomp:my $file1 = /etc/console-setup/remap.inc; /usr/bin/ckbcomp:my $file2 = $installdir/etc/console-setup/remap.inc; David Wright wrote in How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?: I don't want X's involvement, except in as much as it shares configuration files like /etc/default/keyboard. I understand from man 5 keyboard that this file is part of X. But /usr/bin/ckbcomp is a perl script which in its header talks of loadkeys, which is a kernel thing. When experimenting with XKB, did you take into respect the statement about udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change in man 5 keyboard ? Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: trouble reconfiguring xserver-xorg
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:52:50PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2015-08-20 21:17 +0200, Haines Brown wrote: Startx on a jessie desktop machine goes to a VESA display instead of the higher resolution supported by my video card. That could be a kernel bug, or the sign of a failing monitor (it might no longer give correct EDID information, for instance). Running dmesg | grep nouveau might give some hints. Unlikely to be a monitor problem. I'm running Wheezy on another disk on this machine without any problem. The dmesg does not report anything unusual. Among the lines are: nouveau [DEVICE] chipset G86 (NV86) irq 48 for MSI (MSI-X) nouveau [DRM] failed to create encoder 0/1/0: -19 fbcon: nouveaufb (fb0) is primary device [drm] Intitialized nouveau 1.1.2/ 20120801 for .01.00.0 on minor 0 I decided to reconfigure xserver-xorg No, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is not supposed to do anything these days. If you want to try a different video driver (say, the modesetting driver), you can try this 4-line /etc/X11/xorg.conf: --8---cut here---start-8--- Section Device Identifier n Driver modesetting EndSection --8---cut here---end---8--- This configuration worked, but still in VESA mode. I'm running fluxbox with no desktop environment. Fluxbox comes up. So I guess the issue is that the resolution capabilities of nouveau (and modesetting) are not being accessed even though the module is loaded. Thanks.
Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:19:28 +0200 Hans hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: Hello Hans, Something with archive.debian.org or similar snapshot.debian.org, IIRC. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Bet you thought you had it all worked out Problem - Sex Pistols pgpTZbeSnHZXR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Sobre headers y virtualbox
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 06:34:38PM +0200, Alba Ferri wrote: 3.14-1-686-pae Tu problema, por si mi email anterior no se acaba de entender, es que en jessie ya no está disponible el paquete linux-headers-etc que se corresponde con el núcleo que estás usando, por eso debes actualizarte a jessie del todo, o como mínimo y para no tener problemas con virtualbox, usar el núcleo de jessie.
Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop
Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2015, 12:03:43 schrieb Gabriel Corona: But now, after my last update, KDE will not start. The splashscreen of KDE5 is starting, its progress bar fullfilles to the end and then it hangs. I had the same issue and fixed it by reverting libkdecorations2-5 and libkdecorations2private5 to 5.3.2-1 as indicated in [1]. [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794581#117 Oh, that is interesting. This is exactly, what I wanted to do. But the former version was no more in the repo. Just disappeared! I know, there is a repo, that helds all packages removed from the repo, but fogot the URL. Something with archive.debian.org or similar. Or did you get them some elsewhere? Best Hans
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Aug 20, 2015 6:54 AM, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? First of all, is this going to be your desktop or a server? If the later, can't see the point for blueray. One of the compelling reasons against is that only movies use it. Second, it has dmr crap in it that might require binary only spyware to work. Third, they behave like Android phones in that they keep pushing new releases but no firmware updates for older devices; you have to keep on buying new devices which only change from old one by having brand new spyware. If I were to read in my blueray movies - legal to do FYI - I would do so somewhere else or find external drive that can read it. On the positive side, blueray sounds cooler than DVD. ___ CentOS mailing list cen...@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 08/20/2015 07:04 AM, Hal Wigoda wrote: I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:53 AM, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Is that a personal preference, or are there reasons?
Re: Postfix en debian 7 -Reglas
bueno en respuesta a quien piensa que es un misterio la posible solucion que le acabo de enviar a la persona que tiene la duda le digo que no es ningun misterio pero tengo entendido que por las listas no se pueden enviar archivos adjuntos, vale, no obstante pongo a modo general que le acabo de enviar un manual bastante completo de como configurar postfix en dicho manual va contenido la autenticacion en el envio de correos y el uso de (postfix-pcre), en fin que puede tratar de enviar un correo mediante un usuario existente en el dominio pero si el passw de este usuario no existe o coincide con el passw real el correo no es enviado. igualmente para la persona que que se refiere al misterio antes de manifestar una idea debe pensar el por que de las cosas no le parece??? no obstante si tiene esa misma duda con gusto le envio mi manual. El 17/08/2015 16:43, Felix Perez escribió: El día 17 de agosto de 2015, 14:32, Ariel ar...@cncc.cult.cu escribió: eso es suplantacion de identidad, dame un correo pa enviarte un manual al privado de como resolverlo. U, que misterio... ¿Se dignara el listero a compartir lo que sabe? ¿Se podrá solucionar el problema? ¿Entenderá, que la lista es para compartir? Todo esto, no lo sabremos nunca, ni en esta lista, ni en ningún otro canal un abrazo El 15/08/2015 17:57, Memo Robles escribió: Ubique la IP del atacante con postcat -vq coladelcorreo y luego con un cat /var/log/mail.log | grep IP y ya lo bloquee con un IPTABLES pero el detalle es que cada dia lo tengo que estar haciendo :(. Recien encontre esto Passed CLEAN, [177.11.51.72] [177.11.51.72] 48jw...@hotmail.com - teste3.p...@hotmail.com, mail_id: wW6FKgTYvWY8, Hits: 6.003, size: 354, queued_as: 630CB920CC1, 34176 ms el correo 48jw...@hotmail.com ni siquiera existe pero el problema que lo estan enviando de mi servidor y no tengo en mis dominios a hotmail. Estoy leyendo esto http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html aver si encuentro algo. Gracias y saludos Subject: Re: Postfix en debian 7 -Reglas From: fishfromsa...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:27:03 -0300 El sáb, 15-08-2015 a las 10:07 -0700, Memo Robles escribió: Hola, buenos dias. Como estan? Me podrian apoyar por favor, tengo un servidor postfix en el cual me estan metiendo goles, resulta alguien se estan enviando corro de mi servidor de cuentas que no existen en mi servidor como abc...@hotmail.com -(hacia) def...@dominio.com.br etc ect. Ya tengo Fail2ban y reglas en posfix: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/lista_blanca, reject_unauth_destination, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client b.barracudacentral.org, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10023, permit smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, permit_mynetworks, permit Alguien sabra de como evitar que envien correos de mi servidor con dominios ajenos a los que tengo dados de alta? Gracias y buen sabado. SaludosP fijate en el log con que usuario entraron para mandar los correos (no recuerdo exactamente pero era algo de sasl_login o algo así lo que te interesa buscar), cambiale la clave, y cuando llame para preguntar porque no puede enviar (y probablemente recibir) e-mails, lo cagás a pedos como decimos por aquí
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:53 AM, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? ___ CentOS mailing list cen...@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 08/20/2015 07:35 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Second, it [Blu-ray] has dmr crap in it that might require binary only spyware to work. DVD-Video has them too, the only difference is that the crypto in the DRM for DVD is terribly broken. Broken in the sense that data is corrupted or in the sense that the DMR is crackable?
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 07:21:24AM -0400, ken wrote: On 08/20/2015 07:04 AM, Hal Wigoda wrote: [...] Is that a personal preference, or are there reasons? Others have responded too, but I think it's worth re-stating it in a short, sweet form: they got DRM (spelt around here as Digital Restrictions Management) right-er than in the first round (DVD). This makes it less compatible with a free operating system. Whereas we could work around that reasonably with libdvdcss in the first round, they are much more draconian now and just accept that a whole bunch of players stop working (disabling their key when it becomes compromised). So expect some interoperability problems. They are by design. - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXVvUcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZqUQCfRcWaOW+cyUzYiFNVHXvNt0EI dUcAnisntwoNqIKE8RwoCstx3cXDlMYO =8/sQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
Personal preference. Who uses blu ray? Who uses DVDs? Anyway. (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) On Aug 20, 2015, at 6:21 AM, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: On 08/20/2015 07:04 AM, Hal Wigoda wrote: I wouldn't outfit a computer with blu-ray (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) On Aug 20, 2015, at 5:53 AM, ken geb...@mousecar.com wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Is that a personal preference, or are there reasons? ___ CentOS mailing list cen...@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: Problems with php5-fpm/nginx/ownCloud after upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, For documentation purposes, if someone might stumple on this. On debian-user-german it was suggested [1] that a new snippet has been added to nginx for FastCGI [0]. Using that snippet solved my issue. Regards, Peter Ludikovsky [0] Bug report: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762491 [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2015/08/msg00307.html Am 17.08.2015 um 14:31 schrieb Peter Ludikovsky: Hello, Recently, I upgraded my home server from Wheezy to Jessie. Ever since my PHP web stack doesn't work anymore, mostly affecting the ownCloud installation. The problem manifests itself as an empty page served. Software/Versions: * ownCloud 8.1.1, installed from their Debian repo * nginx 1.6.2-5 * php5(-fpm) 5.6.9+dfsg-0+deb8u1 * postgresql 9.4+165 So far I've attempted to enable FPM logging, but the log files remain suspiciously absent or empty. nginx doesn't see an error coming back. If I run ownClouds index.php on the command line I get the source for the login page just fine. Listening in on the FPM port I see that only an empty response is returned. I have attached the scrubbed configuration files for nginx and php5-fpm. Any help is much appreciated. Regards, Peter Ludikovsky -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (MingW32) iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJV1cZWAAoJEM+6Ng5pbtyZp7QP/2Bw3QLmJwFaNoUwvEp0ar8G ERB66mSNB5pJFQ1+w6RPoV/0s2LpIlDReXuW7diZZrnfw5ozHbLKfB8cxiY1IlRU 23ndx9WBPJjjxjZ1fyxmcxC97WnEUjcF9WrOTRJPK82Ik1H2sYD/4o+wkuB22tYx kkSrCo+GcC64L/BaK1VSetJioLmjNFPQmgexAaUaESIOJSpqMC4RhKvTT47t+142 P8O3floyphFns8y6Mxcr38iDT6reNMOniTlWqxY3WLIFGpjASAJLxJDdSGitcEMU THSq3Mzygx3efYpQhSW0ZPIPgc7Awh5Ye8LbKjsQMVnJib4rBQtFBQpORFE9Gi4g ukFpKHoCNgmboCYyBpCnf8zvjQFjACxZO83DstaTy9vbUzRkycrw2lSD0c4Ir3MH aHI0GYmz9+d99F8uyr+Xg1Bj8ywckL6LU2VP2xg9awTaeJWJ91yltT/dTiR+Y9zX FogD5VrHNt9y9z+dYmY3lYEjvf7p6imLhq0RHzjmLX6eT6kw62/0AcGsQowHL0cb ugXluj8S6dQ/yF38uNvPg53lMGDQAhNPP+p28JAt2xFsBz2iM/irYX6rqPhMLPvw foLtOIJE1bYWkNPSz+vjmYZ/40fvXrnKiU+8bmVnIpU5RmijNNeOouPyHYVFr0cX lVDmmtZ2eQ0x5t6BqJW0 =ianl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kde5 - the problems do not stop
I know, there is a repo, that helds all packages removed from the repo, but fogot the URL. Something with archive.debian.org or similar. Or did you get them some elsewhere? I installed them from my cache: cd /var/cache/apt/archives sudo dpkg -i libkdecorations2-5_4%3a5.3.2-1_amd64.deb \ libkdecorations2private5_4%3a5.3.2-1_amd64.deb -- Gabriel
Fwd: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
Future proofing mostly. Blueray drives should be backwards compatible with DVD. -- Forwarded message - From: ken geb...@mousecar.com Date: Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 04:54 Subject: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray To: CentOS mailing list cen...@centos.org, Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray?
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
Le tridi 3 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Mauricio Tavares a écrit : One of the compelling reasons against is that only movies use it. Unless the drive can also burn BD-R disks, in which case you have a reasonably-priced way of storing 22.5 gigaoctsts of data. Five years ago, it was well worth the price as a backup for mechanic drives. Nowadays, it is still interesting depending on the use case. Second, it has dmr crap in it that might require binary only spyware to work. DVD-Video has them too, the only difference is that the crypto in the DRM for DVD is terribly broken. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015, Hal Wigoda wrote: Personal preference. Who uses blu ray? Who uses DVDs? This really isn't a winning discussion. If you want to read/write blu-ray disks, then buy a blu-ray reader/writer. If you don't, don't. You can get a blu ray writer for ~£50, so it really shouldn't be a big decision. If you don't buy one and later find you want one, you buy an external one for basically the same money. Don't lose sleep over it. jh
new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray?
Re: no pulse audio- so now new sound trouble
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:08:40 +0200
Nicolas George geo...@nsup.org wrote:
Le duodi 2 fructidor, an CCXXIII, bri...@aracnet.com a écrit :
.asoundrc
pcm.!default {
type hw
card 2
}
With this, you are bypassing all the ALSA plugin infrastructure. In
particular, you are bypassing the dmix plugin that allows to share the sound
device between several processes without a server. If some process happens
to keep the sound device open, it blocks any other process from playing
sound.
You also are bypassing the plug plugin responsible for converting the input
into a format acceptable by the hardware.
ok.
i deleted that from my file.
it was no help.
Brian
metatrader 4
can you get metatrader 4 software in Debian or can you use mt4's from different brokers?
Re: Antivirus for Debian
Le tridi 3 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Brian a écrit : Yes. Without system integrity a user's files are worthless. Protecting the system protects *all* users. That is the responsibility of the administrator. So basically, you are saying that protecting the system is more important than protecting the users' files because protecting the system protects the users' files, and not seeing the contradiction in it. The truth is that the system is only a tool, and only the users' files have specific value. If the system is corrupted, you can wipe it and reinstall it from scratch in a few hours. If the users' files are corrupted, you may lose days, months, years of work depending on how sloppy you were with the backups. And of course, the users' files contain personal information that can allow to drain the bank account, impersonate persons, steal trade secrets, etc. Sure, corrupting the system may be a way of accessing the users' files, but the real value is in the users' files. (Well, that and the bandwidth, to use the zombie box in DDoS and to distribute prOn and warez.) Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): But the typographical purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE is to look like space without inviting an automatic line break. So making it look not like space would be absurd. But shell input is not a typographical context. Most source code isn't, except in literals. Documents generally are because they are displayed/printed. The point is that the terminal cannot do the difference between a NBSP coming from shell input and a NBSP coming from a displayed document. So, it should render a NBSP exactly like a normal space. And it is up to the application (the shell, an editor in some mode, etc.) to render NBSP in a special way if needed. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): On 2015-08-19 12:55:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space. Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be displayed as a normal space? (For example, in the shell, as in the OP's original question.) It seems a recipe for confusion at best, and for exploits at worst. When reading a text, such as an e-mail message, a HTML document, or a ReadMe file, one doesn't expect a difference. Otherwise this would be disturbing. Yes, that's what I wrote yesterday in this sub-thread: Documents generally are [in a typographical context] because they are displayed/printed. which was in answer to But the typographical purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE is to look like space without inviting an automatic line break. [You commented on this very sub-thread at Fri, 21 Aug 2015 02:15:50 +0200, five minutes after this comment.] Your e-mail message, a HTML document, or a ReadMe file, these are all examples of typographical documents. A shell script, (excluding literals) and the hand-typed input to a shell are not in a typographical context. Cheers, David.
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Fri 21 Aug 2015 at 00:19:55 +0200, Nicolas George wrote: Le tridi 3 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Brian a écrit : But it really doesn't matter how much malware a user has stacked up in their $HOME as long as the system is safe. Do you really consider that the system, mostly made from files widely distributed, is more precious than the users' personal files? Yes. Without system integrity a user's files are worthless. Protecting the system protects *all* users. That is the responsibility of the administrator. An individual user who destroys part of his own precious space takes the responsibility on his own shoulders. The effect is not to affect other users and the system survives. All is well with the world.
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
On 2015-08-19 12:55:39 -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): In general, one wants NO-BREAK SPACE to be displayed just like a space. Why would I want a character that doesn't behave as a space to be displayed as a normal space? (For example, in the shell, as in the OP's original question.) It seems a recipe for confusion at best, and for exploits at worst. When reading a text, such as an e-mail message, a HTML document, or a ReadMe file, one doesn't expect a difference. Otherwise this would be disturbing. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: https://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: https://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon)
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): But the typographical purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE is to look like space without inviting an automatic line break. So making it look not like space would be absurd. But shell input is not a typographical context. Most source code isn't, except in literals. Documents generally are because they are displayed/printed. The point is that the terminal cannot do the difference between a NBSP coming from shell input and a NBSP coming from a displayed document. So, it should render a NBSP exactly like a normal space. And it is up to the application (the shell, an editor in some mode, etc.) to render NBSP in a special way if needed. Why not? Let's substitute TAB TAB for NBSP in your comment. My terminal happily swallows TAB TAB with cat file, and renders it correctly with cat file. But when I type TAB TAB as shell input, I get Display all 3402 possibilities? (y or n). It seems to be able to do the difference in this case. So my point is, rendering NBSP in a special way *is* needed (because NBSP is not treated as firstclass whitespace and, it appears, never can be). Cheers, David.
Re: Antivirus for Debian
Hi, Le 20/08/2015 19:58, Dwijesh Gajadur a écrit : Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? Thank you in advance. Required no, advised I guess. https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/284124-myth-busting-is-linux-immune-to-viruses You should have a look at clamav for this. http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/clamav.htm Good luck, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 20:24:16 +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi, Le 20/08/2015 19:58, Dwijesh Gajadur a écrit : Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? Thank you in advance. Required no, advised I guess. You guessed wrong.
Antivirus for Debian
Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? Thank you in advance. With Kind Regards, Dwijesh
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:33:17 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 20:24:16 +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? Thank you in advance. Required no, advised I guess. You guessed wrong. Although I know that proof-of-concept viruses (virii ?) have been created in computer labs, has anyone seen one alive in the wild ? Cheers, Ron. -- Le client n'a jamais tort. -- César Ritz -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:50 +0400 Dwijesh Gajadur dwije...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? The only time you may want an anti-virus is when you are running a mail server, so you can avoid spreading infected mails. Probability of a virus infecting your Linux box is at the present time negligible. Cheers, Ron. -- Le client n'a jamais tort. -- César Ritz -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 14:08:44 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:50 +0400 Dwijesh Gajadur dwije...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? The only time you may want an anti-virus is when you are running a mail server, so you can avoid spreading infected mails. ... to OSs which are susceptible to such viruses. It's a good neighbour policy. Probability of a virus infecting your Linux box is at the present time negligible. Agreed. But do not run as root.
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On 08/20/2015 01:58 PM, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? Thank you in advance. With Kind Regards, Dwijesh I use clamav. I don't remember ever seeing it find an actual virus! Use freshclam (from a root terminal) to upgrade it every so often. --doug
Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
Le tridi 3 fructidor, an CCXXIII, doug a écrit : If the DVD is not a writer as well as a player, it's not a good deal at all, but BluRay is worse Why would it be worse? Anything a DVD drive can do, a BD drive is supposed to be able to do as well. Really, there is no hesitation: if the only difference is between a drive that can read CDs and DVDs and a drive that can read CDs, DVDs and BDs, the second is a better choice. If there are other differences (price? quality? burning capability?), we can not give advice unless we know about it. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 21:58:50 +0400, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? Thank you in advance. None is needed.
Re: Postfix en debian 7 -Reglas
Si me interesa el manual. Si me envia a mi dirección de correo lo subiré a una página web para que puedan descargar quien lo desee Atte. Vicente Castillo El 20 de agosto de 2015, 10:47, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 20 de agosto de 2015, 9:05, Ariel ar...@cncc.cult.cu escribió: bueno en respuesta a quien piensa que es un misterio la posible solucion que le acabo de enviar a la persona que tiene la duda le digo que no es ningun misterio pero tengo entendido que por las listas no se pueden enviar archivos adjuntos, vale, no obstante pongo a modo general que le acabo de enviar un manual bastante completo de como configurar postfix en dicho manual va contenido la autenticacion en el envio de correos y el uso de (postfix-pcre), en fin que puede tratar de enviar un correo mediante un usuario existente en el dominio pero si el passw de este usuario no existe o coincide con el passw real el correo no es enviado. igualmente para la persona que que se refiere al misterio antes de manifestar una idea debe pensar el por que de las cosas no le parece??? no obstante si tiene esa misma duda con gusto le envio mi manual. Estimado ya que me parece que no esta acostumbrado al uso de las listas, le comento que la idea es compartir conocimiento, conocimiento que quedará almacenado y posiblemente será consultado por alguien más que le ocurra el mismo problema. De eso se trata la lista, no se trata de dar soluciones en privado, a no ser que sea su estrategia para captar clientes y/o controlarlos. Y no muchas gracias, pero no me interesa su manual. Saludos El 17/08/2015 16:43, Felix Perez escribió: El día 17 de agosto de 2015, 14:32, Ariel ar...@cncc.cult.cu escribió: eso es suplantacion de identidad, dame un correo pa enviarte un manual al privado de como resolverlo. U, que misterio... ¿Se dignara el listero a compartir lo que sabe? ¿Se podrá solucionar el problema? ¿Entenderá, que la lista es para compartir? Todo esto, no lo sabremos nunca, ni en esta lista, ni en ningún otro canal un abrazo El 15/08/2015 17:57, Memo Robles escribió: Ubique la IP del atacante con postcat -vq coladelcorreo y luego con un cat /var/log/mail.log | grep IP y ya lo bloquee con un IPTABLES pero el detalle es que cada dia lo tengo que estar haciendo :(. Recien encontre esto Passed CLEAN, [177.11.51.72] [177.11.51.72] 48jw...@hotmail.com - teste3.p...@hotmail.com, mail_id: wW6FKgTYvWY8, Hits: 6.003, size: 354, queued_as: 630CB920CC1, 34176 ms el correo 48jw...@hotmail.com ni siquiera existe pero el problema que lo estan enviando de mi servidor y no tengo en mis dominios a hotmail. Estoy leyendo esto http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_VERIFICATION_README.html aver si encuentro algo. Gracias y saludos Subject: Re: Postfix en debian 7 -Reglas From: fishfromsa...@gmail.com To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 18:27:03 -0300 El sáb, 15-08-2015 a las 10:07 -0700, Memo Robles escribió: Hola, buenos dias. Como estan? Me podrian apoyar por favor, tengo un servidor postfix en el cual me estan metiendo goles, resulta alguien se estan enviando corro de mi servidor de cuentas que no existen en mi servidor como abc...@hotmail.com -(hacia) def...@dominio.com.br etc ect. Ya tengo Fail2ban y reglas en posfix: smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/lista_blanca, reject_unauth_destination, reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client b.barracudacentral.org, reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10023, permit smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain, permit_mynetworks, permit Alguien sabra de como evitar que envien correos de mi servidor con dominios ajenos a los que tengo dados de alta? Gracias y buen sabado. SaludosP fijate en el log con que usuario entraron para mandar los correos (no recuerdo exactamente pero era algo de sasl_login o algo así lo que te interesa buscar), cambiale la clave, y cuando llame para preguntar porque no puede enviar (y probablemente recibir) e-mails, lo cagás a pedos como decimos por aquí -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 08/20/2015 12:53 PM, ken wrote: On 08/20/2015 10:14 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 20/08/15 06:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? The decision isn't that simple. As others have pointed out, the no optical drive option also needs to be considered. I've considered that, but the folks who designed the laptop didn't. The choice is, as I said, either Blu-ray or DVD. Of course I could tear out whichever came in the machine, or simply not use it ever. But I figure, since it's there, I may as well see which would serve better, and for what. Hence the post. /snip/ If the DVD is not a writer as well as a player, it's not a good deal at all, but BluRay is worse--are you actually going to watch movies on a laptop? --doug
Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 14:48:11 -0400 doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: Hello doug, actually going to watch movies on a laptop? Why not? People watch them on a wristwatch these days. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Keep your drink just give em the money U Ur Hand - P!nk pgpfvTbJ0NccU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:50 +0400 Dwijesh Gajadur dwije...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Dwijesh, Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? The viruses that run on linux (any distro) are few and far between. Existing almost entirely as proof of concept. As Renaud points out, if you run a mailserver, then you would be well advised to run AV software. That software will be looking for Windows malware though, not linux. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Every single one of us Devil Inside - INXS pgpts0K6ME1r6.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Anyone else having password failures at pop.gmail.com?
On Thursday 20 August 2015 03:39:35 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015 06:15:40 Gene Heskett wrote: I'm not having problems. So far. Your email came via Gmail, and I'll send this via Gmail and see if it goes through. If it arrives, it did. ;-) Lisi Not much of a test Lisi. You asked if other people were having problems, I thought. That tested that I am not. So if it isn't much of a test, then I was answering the wrong problem. Lisi I was perhaps a litggle short there, my apologies. As a gmail user yourself, you probably did whatever it took to restore your service access quite some time back. I did not, and now it appears that whatever gmail did back then, has now been done to the aliased access that shentel setup when they farmed their email service out to gmail. So I am now locked out of both accounts, leaving my access thru the tv stations server as my only path. There is a migration notice about it, with zero details, on the shentel.net web page that says I would get an email with instructions. However, if its been received, spamassassin or clamav grabbed it and disposed of it. I have not seen it. And now that I am blocked at the login stage, I never will because they would obviously send it thru their account. I'll input a cold leftover cuppa and maybe be awake enough to deal with their phone system, which last night took approximately 20 minutes just to get to the waiting on a tech to answer stage. And another 20 minutes later I'm still listening to crappy elevator music I had other fish to fry, writing the gcode and carving a clamping ring for what will be a spindle lock for my new milling machine. Both are being a right PITA as I forgot to add the diameter of the cutting tool to the outside face. To clarify my poorly worded question, has anyone else suddenly found their access to gmail cut off because of a password authentifican error AND has not even changed the dot on an i in your settings within the last 6 months? Thanks Lisi. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene
Re: Sobre headers y virtualbox
El Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:36:42 +0200, Alba Ferri escribió: (corrijo el top-posting) El día 19 de agosto de 2015, 19:47, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 19 Aug 2015 19:23:56 +0200, Alba Ferri escribió: (...) Building only for 3.14-1-686-pae Module build for the currently running kernel was skipped since the kernel source for this kernel does not seem to be installed. (...) Aquí te dice que no se ha podido generar el módulo para el kernel actual porque no encuentra las fuentes, de ahí que te falle luego al cargar el módulo de virtualbox. Ejecuta y manda a la lista lo siguiente: dpkg -l | grep -i -e linux-headers -e build-essential Sorry, que ayer me tuve que ir... Sip...el tema de tener tiempo es fundamental para hacer las cosas bien... Bueno Camaleón esto es lo que sale: dpkg -l | grep -i -e linux-headers -e build-essential ii build-essential i386 Informational list of build-essential packages ii linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 i386 Header files for Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae ii linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 i386 Common header files for Linux 3.16.0-4 ii linux-headers-686-pae 3.16+63 i386 Header files for Linux 686-pae configuration (meta-package) Bien, tienes todos los paquetes necesarios para compilar el módulo de virtualbox pero la versión de los paquetes (3.16) no coincide con la del kernel (3.14) que tienes instalado. ¿Es posible que no hayas actualizado el sistema desde que instalaste Jessie? Si es así, tienes que ejecutar: apt-get update apt-get -V upgrade Para actualizar el sistema con los últimos paquetes que haya en los repositorios (asegúrate de que estén apuntando a jessie) y después ya podrás volver a ejecutar dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms y dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox para regenerar el módulo del kernel de virtualbox. Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? Get neither: nowadays an optical reader is just a relic of the past, making your laptop heavier and reducing (ever so slightly) your battery life. Stefan
Re: [Cómo] Actualizar Firefox (y Thunderbird) desde consola
Y apt-get update y luego apt-get upgrade?? El 20/08/2015 a las 16:02, Camaleón escribió: Hola, Siempre me había preguntado cómo se podría actualizar Firefox y Thunderbird (me refiero a los paquetes que se instalan desde su web oficial) desde una consola sin necesidad de tener que iniciar la aplicación ni tener que instalar de nuevo los programas. Ayer, al ejecutar la rutina de actualización de Firefox me decía que no había nuevas versiones disponibles cuando realmente sí las había (versión instalada 40.0, versión disponible 40.0.2). No me hacía gracia tener que instalar de nuevo el navegador pero era la respuesta más común que encontré por los foros de Mozilla, así que rebuscando un poco más encontré estos pasos en su wiki: http://mailtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGV0ZQNlAwV2BQpzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9ZwN0ZmDmBQZzrKMurUMkCGL5BQp3Amx3ZQSP En el artículo detalla el procedimiento para instalar un archivo de actualización diferencia/parcial (.mar) sobre una instalación existente, ejecutado todo ello desde consola, lo cual no sólo me venía bien para este caso sino que también sirve cuando, por el motivo que sea, se tiene que realizar una instalación desde consola (p. ej., si sólo te puede acceder mediante ssh a un servidor con un cliente sin entorno gráfico o se quiere automatizar la actualización por medio de un script). El caso es que los pasos descritos funcionan perfectamente (yo lo probé en mi equipo personal que tiene Wheezy 64 bits y Firefox 64 bits descargado e instalado desde la página de Mozilla). Lo pongo por si a alguien le sirve. Obviamente, si se tiene instalado los paquetes desde los repositorios de Debian esto no es necesario, que para eso ya está apt ;-) Saludos, -- Óscar Triana. Responsable técnico - Suportium: S.I.I. htpps://http://mailtrack.me/tracking/raWzMz50paMkCGV0ZQNlAwV2BQpzMKWjqzA2pzSaqaR9ZwN0ZmDmBQZzrKMurUMkCGL5BQp3Amx3ZGSO De conformidad a la Ley Orgánica de Protección de Datos de Carácter Personal 15/1999 de España, le informamos que los datos de contacto utilizados para la presente comunicación están incluidos en un fichero debidamente inscrito ante el RGPD con la finalidad de posibilitar las comunicaciones a través de correo electrónico de [Suportium: S.I.I.] con los distintos contactos que ésta mantiene dentro del ejercicio de su actividad (como clientes, asociados, proveedores o personal). Sin perjuicio de ello se le informa de que usted podrá ejercitar los derechos de acceso, rectificación, cancelación y oposición para lo cual debe dirigirse a: conta...@suportium.es, adjuntando acreditación de la identidad e indicando en la comunicación “A la atención del servicio jurídico de [Suportium: S.I.I.], ejercicio de derecho”. En caso de no ser el destinatario de esta información, por favor, rogamos nos lo comunique en la dirección del remitente para la eliminación de su dirección electrónica, no copiando ni entregando este mensaje a nadie más y procediendo a su destrucción.
Re: new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
On 20/08/15 06:53 AM, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? The decision isn't that simple. As others have pointed out, the no optical drive option also needs to be considered. Another point to consider is does the Blu-Ray drive support the new m-discs? (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC) Not all of them do. M-Disc's big selling feature is long-term stability, making it good for archiving or other long-term storage uses. All optical discs have limited capacity compared with today's hard drives and SSDs. However the optical drive offers essentially unlimited capacity by swapping discs. The media is generally mechanically stable and with M-Discs is also chemically stable so it's not a simple case of which is better, hard drive or optical but rather which one suits your purposes better? I'm still a fan of optical media for archiving so I've been using Blu-Ray for several years now. At 25G per disc, I can store multiple years of work on one disc. However as anyone with a PVR will attest, 25G is not sufficient for backing up a media library. Still, putting precious family videos on optical material is a reasonable precaution.
Re: Anyone else having password failures at pop.gmail.com?
On Thursday 20 August 2015 07:53:33 Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: They apparently did something just before 15:00 local time (GMT-4=EDT today, as both mailfilter and fetchmail are now reporting a password authorization failure. Thats two separate config files, neither of which has been into an editor to even change the size of the top dot of an i in about 2 years. So, is it me, or has gmail changed the protocol somehow? Any chance it's the old problem with Google's chain to a root CA? Could you elaborate on this problem? Kmail just popped a warning this morning about an invalid google certificate. Kmail claims that the root certificate is not valid for that purpose (whatever that means)… I would like to know how to make sure whether it is safe to accept the certificate or not. My employer's gateway may be providing a fake certificate to monitor the SSL communication but I don't know how to tell if the certificate was rewritten by the legitimate gateway or by a rogue third party or if google messed up. Thanks, Frederic
cons25 Terminal is Almost but not Quite Right for a Job.
I normally use vt100 when in command-line mode but I needed a different terminal for dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config. The garbage I get is what one usually receives when the application is expecting to see a cons25 terminal so that is what I set $TERM to as in: export TERM=cons25 It works much better but there are still lots of raw escape sequences that pop up when the next screen is about to display so my question is whether there is a better choice of terminal keeping in mind that this is the command line. At least with cons25, the arrows seem to work and the cursor ends up in the right place. On a scale of 1-10, this problem is maybe a 3, not a show stopper but a bit annoying and usually indicates there are other things that may not work right. Martin McCormick
Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?
Le quartidi 4 fructidor, an CCXXIII, Chris Bannister a écrit : What file(s) are you talking about here? ~ $ apt-file show -x '^pulseaudio$' | grep '/usr/share/alsa' pulseaudio: /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf.d/pulse.conf pulseaudio: /usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf You can see that, at the very least, having pulseaudio installed will affect the ALSA configuration. In the past, the result was making it completely unusable without running the daemon. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Cómo] Actualizar Firefox (y Thunderbird) desde consola
El Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:07:10 +0200, Óscar Triana - suport...@bendel.debian.org: S.I.I. escribió: El 20/08/2015 a las 16:02, Camaleón escribió: (...) (...) Obviamente, si se tiene instalado los paquetes desde los repositorios de Debian esto no es necesario, que para eso ya está apt ;-) Y apt-get update y luego apt-get upgrade?? Pues eso, que no es necesario ;-) Llega un momento en el ciclo de vida de Debian en el que dejan de mantener los programas de Mozilla así que yo al final opté por descargar e instalarlos directamente desde Mozilla para mantenerlos siempre actualizados. Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: Anyone else having password failures at pop.gmail.com?
On Thursday 20 August 2015 08:40:10 Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015 03:39:35 Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 20 August 2015 06:15:40 Gene Heskett wrote: I'm not having problems. So far. Your email came via Gmail, and I'll send this via Gmail and see if it goes through. If it arrives, it did. ;-) Lisi Not much of a test Lisi. You asked if other people were having problems, I thought. That tested that I am not. So if it isn't much of a test, then I was answering the wrong problem. Lisi I was perhaps a litggle short there, my apologies. As a gmail user yourself, you probably did whatever it took to restore your service access quite some time back. I did not, and now it appears that whatever gmail did back then, has now been done to the aliased access that shentel setup when they farmed their email service out to gmail. So I am now locked out of both accounts, leaving my access thru the tv stations server as my only path. There is a migration notice about it, with zero details, on the shentel.net web page that says I would get an email with instructions. However, if its been received, spamassassin or clamav grabbed it and disposed of it. I have not seen it. And now that I am blocked at the login stage, I never will because they would obviously send it thru their account. I'll input a cold leftover cuppa and maybe be awake enough to deal with their phone system, which last night took approximately 20 minutes just to get to the waiting on a tech to answer stage. And another 20 minutes later I'm still listening to crappy elevator music I had other fish to fry, writing the gcode and carving a clamping ring for what will be a spindle lock for my new milling machine. Both are being a right PITA as I forgot to add the diameter of the cutting tool to the outside face. To clarify my poorly worded question, has anyone else suddenly found their access to gmail cut off because of a password authentifican error AND has not even changed the dot on an i in your settings within the last 6 months? update: called them. They fired gmail and have setup their own servers again, at a shentel.net address. So a change in the fetchmail poll line to the correct server got me a pile of waiting msgs, but while i've made the smtp changes in the kmail send menu, kmail refuses to use it, or even offer it as an alternate sending account. So I am listening to some pan pipes on hold again. Sucks, about 10-33 torr. Thanks Lisi. Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene
Re: Starting, installing Redmine
On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 09:34:23AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 19 August 2015 06:23:07 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: I'm sitting here at Debconf [3], among literally hundreds of Debian developers, all of them working hard (many of them in their free time) I thought all of them did it in their free time. to give to us this fantastic distribution. I think I have said before, the only possible words are thank you. It's fantastic what you all do. I understand your frustration (I often swear at my computer too, and do even worse things), but I think the best way forward is to get involved. Some of us just aren't enough use for that, sadly. So all we can do is be grateful. And remember: You can please all of the people some of the time and you can please some of the people all of the time; but you cannot please all of the people all of the time. And I actually think that you cannot please some of the people ever. To be fair, there are some Debian.readme which make no sense to an end user. I've seen some Debian.readme files which talk about about how to compile the program. Hello? Isn't Debian a binary distribution. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X
[Cómo] Actualizar Firefox (y Thunderbird) desde consola
Hola, Siempre me había preguntado cómo se podría actualizar Firefox y Thunderbird (me refiero a los paquetes que se instalan desde su web oficial) desde una consola sin necesidad de tener que iniciar la aplicación ni tener que instalar de nuevo los programas. Ayer, al ejecutar la rutina de actualización de Firefox me decía que no había nuevas versiones disponibles cuando realmente sí las había (versión instalada 40.0, versión disponible 40.0.2). No me hacía gracia tener que instalar de nuevo el navegador pero era la respuesta más común que encontré por los foros de Mozilla, así que rebuscando un poco más encontré estos pasos en su wiki: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Software_Update:Manually_Installing_a_MAR_file#Steps_for_Linux En el artículo detalla el procedimiento para instalar un archivo de actualización diferencia/parcial (.mar) sobre una instalación existente, ejecutado todo ello desde consola, lo cual no sólo me venía bien para este caso sino que también sirve cuando, por el motivo que sea, se tiene que realizar una instalación desde consola (p. ej., si sólo te puede acceder mediante ssh a un servidor con un cliente sin entorno gráfico o se quiere automatizar la actualización por medio de un script). El caso es que los pasos descritos funcionan perfectamente (yo lo probé en mi equipo personal que tiene Wheezy 64 bits y Firefox 64 bits descargado e instalado desde la página de Mozilla). Lo pongo por si a alguien le sirve. Obviamente, si se tiene instalado los paquetes desde los repositorios de Debian esto no es necesario, que para eso ya está apt ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón
[OT] fuera de tema. (Era: no ataquen a Camaleón)
El día 20 de agosto de 2015, 9:18, Salvador Garcia Z. meztlixic...@gmail.com escribió: Señores. Muy ocasionalmente respondo un correo y esta vez es para pedir que no ataquen a camaleón. En ocasiones se puede uno desesperar, pero aporta mucho y esta claro que su conocimiento es muy amplio El ago 19, 2015 10:15 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:30:05 -0300, Flako escribió: Hola. Pues ya que lo haces ocasionalmente, podías haber elegido algo interesante para responder, y de paso hacerlo bien. Como tu respuesta no tiene nada que ver con el tema al que respondes, deberías haber creado un hilo (correo) nuevo. Lo has hecho haciendo top-posting, alqo que a tu amiga Camaleón no le gusta nada, y tiene razón, no es la forma correcta de hacerlo. Te doy la razón en eso de que puede desesperar, no tanto en eso de que aporte mucho (salvo si te refieres a ruido). Podemos hablar de sus virtudes: Es muy hábil usando el buscador, y debe tener un buen nivel de inglés. Sin embargo es de un arrogante subido, se cree con derecho a ignorar al resto de los componentes de la lista, de los que cuando no sabe la solución a algún tema, utiliza sus respuestas, sin darles el crédito que merecen, componiendo un mensaje nuevo, como si no hubiera leído sus respuestas. (Cosa que dudo, porque no es algo casual, sino que se repite constantemente en el tiempo). También esa actitud de creer que todos los mensajes van dirigidos a ella, que por cierto ni siquiera debe estar subscrita a la lista. Porque a ella no le molestará, pero a los que estamos subscritos los mensajes nos llegan según se escriben, y por tanto todo ese correo basura que genera es a veces bastante molesto. (Imagina que todos tuvieramos ese comportamiento de responder a todos los correos...) Podría seguir, pero no vale la pena. Así que, querido vampiro, recibe un cordial saludo. -- Fernando.
Re: [CentOS] new laptop: DVD or Blu-ray
Hi, ken wrote: One of the build options for a laptop I'm looking at buying is DVD vs Blu-Ray. I've never used Blue-ray before, so is there some compelling reason, as a Linux guy, to want to get Blu-ray? If you want to backup disk files, then BD is much less cumbersome than DVD. My Debian 8 installation except $HOME, $WORK, and $DISKWASTE needs 10 GB of base backup as ISO 9660. This would need to be split onto 3 DVD+RW. If i wanted to do incremental backups, i'd have to juggle with about 5 DVDs. The BD-RE medium is half full after two months and 9 incremental updates. I expect it to take years of future system changes. (There is also an ISO image on hard disk. For the case of smaller mishaps and as backup of the backup if the BD-RE fails some day.) $HOME, $WORK, $DISKWASTE have their own backups. Backup-worthy $DISKWASTE is on 12 BD-R plus a BD-RE for updates. (One would probably consider to use an old hdd in a USB box instead.) Mauricio Tavares wrote: One of the compelling reasons against is that only movies use it. BD-R and BD-RE are general purpose storage media. BD-RE is directly usable as block device like a USB stick. Format it by a burn program and then use dd, mkfs, mount, and alike. Suffer poor rw-filesytem performance, though. BD-R (and BD-RE) can be written by burn programs. At least four backends are known to work: growisofs, cdrecord, cdrskin, xorriso On the positive side, blueray sounds cooler than DVD. Yeah. Optiarc BD-5300S at full speed sounds like a Ducati. Gary Dale wrote (on debian-user only): Another point to consider is does the Blu-Ray drive support the new m-discs? (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M-DISC) Not all of them do. The BD-R M-discs are compatible with vanilla Blu-ray burners. The DVD+R M-discs need specially enhanced DVD burners (from LG). M-Disc's big selling feature is long-term stability, making it good for archiving or other long-term storage uses. Reports from real use cases are still sparse. The media aren't cheap. the optical drive offers essentially unlimited capacity by swapping discs. Optical media are quite suitable for long term storage. Rugged and easy to bundle in a cake box. I can still checkread with my newest drive the CDs which i made in 1999 on a long deceased Yamaha burner. Price per capacity is better than with USB sticks but cannot compete with a modern hard disk in a USB box. Especially if you add the price of the BD burner. many wrote: [video playback, DRM] Well, this is a topic where you need to have your lawyer ready. Personal preference. Who uses blu ray? Who uses DVDs? We should not forget that there once were media called CD. I use all three types for data storage and transport. Have a nice day :) Thomas
Re: problema con el correo web en debian 8 64bit
El Wed, 19 Aug 2015 15:49:23 -0400, luis escribió: Buenas tardes a todos (...) Luis, ya te hemos respondido en otro hilo a esta misma pregunta. Si tienes algún problema con lo comentado, nos lo dices pero no abras un hilo nuevo para un mismo problema. Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: Postfix en debian 7 -Reglas
On 15/08/15 14:07, Memo Robles wrote:
Hola, buenos dias.
Como estan? Me podrian apoyar por favor, tengo un servidor postfix en
el cual me estan metiendo goles, resulta alguien se estan enviando
corro de mi servidor de cuentas que no existen en mi servidor como
abc...@hotmail.com -(hacia) def...@dominio.com.br etc ect. Ya tengo
Fail2ban y reglas en posfix:
*smtpd_recipient_restrictions* = permit_mynetworks,
permit_sasl_authenticated, check_sender_access
hash:/etc/postfix/lista_blanca, reject_unauth_destination,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client b.barracudacentral.org, reject_rbl_client
bl.spamcop.net, check_policy_service inet:127.0.0.1:10023, permit
*
smtpd_sender_restrictions* = permit_mynetworks,
permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_non_fqdn_sender,
reject_unknown_sender_domain, permit_mynetworks, permit
Alguien sabra de como evitar que envien correos de mi servidor con
dominios ajenos a los que tengo dados de alta?
Gracias y buen sabado.
SaludosP
Si usas SASL lo puedes resolver con algunas reglas de postfix. Usa estas
directivas en la configuración, la idea es que cuando alguien mande
correo Postfix chequee el usuario autenticado y no lo deje mandar si el
from no concide con usuario_sasl@tudominio.com
Primero hay que definir una tabla especial
smtpd_sender_login_maps = regexp:/etc/postfix/sender_login_maps
/(^.*)@(tudominio.com)/ ${1}
/(^.*)@(otrodominio.com)/ ${1}
La entrada de esta tabla es el usurio sasl que se autentica y solo
coincide si el from es ese usuario + @tudomini.com o @otrodominio.com.
Cualquier otra dirección de from no coincidirá.
Luego debes hacer el chequeo de esta tabla en las restricciones a nivel
del sender (smtpd_sender_restrictions). Fijate de poner la regla
reject_autenticated_sender_login_mismatch antess que
permit_sasl_authenticated
Por ejemplo:
smtpd_sender_restrictions =
reject_authenticated_sender_login_mismatch,
check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access,
permit_sasl_authenticated,
permit_mynetworks,
reject_non_fqdn_sender,
reject_unknown_sender_domain,
permit
Konsole output Esta configuración me resultó muy útil para las cuentas
internas hackeadas donde los spammer modificaban el from de los correos
salientes.
Espero que te sirva.
Saludos
Federico
nosh version 1.18
nosh is now up to version 1.18
* http://homepage.ntlworld.com./jonathan.deboynepollard/Softwares/nosh.html
The big news for this release is the nosh-run-system-manager Debian
binary package. This, and the new additional service bundles in
nosh-bundles, package up everything that is needed for running an
entirely nosh-managed basic Debian system with the nosh system-manager
program as process #1. And so the entry on the roadmap WWW page is
crossed out. Some notes:
* Don't forget that the Nosh Guide has a whole chapter on troubleshooting.
* With that package alone, you get very little running. This is
intentional. You'll have to install other nosh-run packages, or add
presets, for the various other things that you want. To get an OpenSSH
server running, for example, you'll need a local preset file (named,
say, /etc/system-control/presets/20-sshd.preset) with enable sshd and
enable cyclog@sshd before (re-)installing nosh-bundles.
(Re-)Installing the nosh-bundles package (re-)applies all current
presets, including your local ones, and auto-starts all enabled services.
* If you are running the freedesktop services, read the notes
hyperlinked-from the package download page.
* You may have spotted that there's a choice between running udev and
busybox mdev. (You pretty much must run one or the other for a fully
functional system.) The nosh-run-busybox-mdev package is broken. I
forgot to write the adapter tool. I've written it ready for version
1.19. There will be more said on the subject of busybox mdev in the
1.19 announcement, therefore.
* It's also intentional that you don't get System 5 shim commands for
the likes of telinit and halt unless you install the
nosh-systemv-shims package. system-control poweroff works without the
presence of the shims, of course.
* For novices, I recommend starting with nosh-run-kernel-vt .
nosh-run-user-vt still requires a manual step, after re-building the
service configuration each time, of system-control disable
ttylogin@tty{1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12}.
* The recovery mode misbehaviour is a known problem. I'm
investigating. As a local fix, boot with init=/bin/sh on the kernel
command line and then run exec /sbin/init -s or even exec /sbin/init
-b from that shell prompt.
This is not the only news, of course. The BSD crowd should not feel
left out, moreover.
There are four long-standing problems with the Linux libkqueue library.
One of those problems causes svscan a.k.a. service-dt-scanner to be
spuriously woken up. This doesn't affect Debian but does affect Linux
operating systems such as Gentoo that have more recent versions of that
library. This has been worked around in version 1.18.
The pre-built mount@-, fsck@-, mount@-usr, fsck@-usr, mount@-var, and
fsck@-var service bundles have been removed. Generation of the service
bundles for mounting and checking volumes is now entirely based upon the
auto-creation system in /etc/system-control/convert/ . If you are
installing from scratch by hand, then you must remember to redo all in
that directory. The nosh-bundles package does this for you as part of
its post-install procedures.
The problem with the local-syslog-read service on Linux providing the
wrong socket (the BSD one) has been fixed.
The tools now speak true TAI, rather than UTC-10. There's an
explanation of the consequences of this in the manual pages for cyclog,
tai64n, and tai64nlocal.
The /etc/fstab conversion system now recognizes remote filesystem types
and attaches the generated services to remote-fs.target .
Re: should I get rid of pulse audio ?
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 04:18:32PM +0200, Nicolas George wrote:
Le primidi 1er fructidor, an CCXXIII, Ric Moore a écrit :
Pulse generally is a pussycat. It sits on top of alsa and if alsa is broken,
pulse is broken.
On the other hand, there are situations where ALSA works perfectly and just
INSTALLING the pulseaudio package would break it, even if it was absolutely
not used.
You can see traces of that problem in the configuration snippets that
pulseaudio drops in ALSA:
@hooks [
{
func pulse_load_if_running
files [
/usr/share/alsa/pulse-alsa.conf
]
errors false
}
]
pcm.!default {
type pulse
hint {
show on
description Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
}
}
The pulse_load_if_running guard was not always present.
What file(s) are you talking about here?
--
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing. --- Malcolm X
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Re: Antivirus for Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:46:40PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] Your point is a good one, as is John Hasler's. But it really doesn't matter how much malware a user has stacked up in their $HOME as long as the system is safe. The safeness of the system doesn't (or shouldn't) depend on the vagaries of popularity. That's the sysadmin point of view. The user, OTOH does care about her files. I don't care as much about the health state of /bin/ls as I do about the health state of my home subdirectory called ~/.banking :-) Of course, a compromised /bin/ls can compromise my ~/.banking and not the other way around, but I think you get what I mean... (That's what makes browser attacks so interesting these days. The browser runs under the user's credentials and is executing random stuff from the net (javascript). The browser vendors keep mending their sandboxes time and again. This is going to be a fun watch for a while -- and it's platform-independent!) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXWtWwACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaZLACfYySvqSN0OmetXbLiEgd0gzAk cNwAn3Voad8Km7e0a5vsNtxj6rj16Tp8 =y4v/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How come i wrote a NO-BREAK SPACE in xterm+bash ?
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 04:56:54AM CEST, David Wright deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk said: Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): On 2015-08-19 16:33:09 -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Thomas Schmitt (scdbac...@gmx.net): But the typographical purpose of NO-BREAK SPACE is to look like space without inviting an automatic line break. So making it look not like space would be absurd. But shell input is not a typographical context. Most source code isn't, except in literals. Documents generally are because they are displayed/printed. The point is that the terminal cannot do the difference between a NBSP coming from shell input and a NBSP coming from a displayed document. So, it should render a NBSP exactly like a normal space. And it is up to the application (the shell, an editor in some mode, etc.) to render NBSP in a special way if needed. Why not? Let's substitute TAB TAB for NBSP in your comment. My terminal happily swallows TAB TAB with cat file, and renders it correctly with cat file. But when I type TAB TAB as shell input, I get Display all 3402 possibilities? (y or n). It seems to be able to do the difference in this case. 1) You're speaking input, Vincent was speaking output 2) it's the shell which makes a different treatment than cat. Exactly what Vincent said. It is up to the application running in the shell to do what is needed.
[Résolu] Logrotate qui ignore le fichier '/etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog' modifié.
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Le lundi 17 août 2015 à 17:02, Stéphane GARGOLY stephane.garg...@gmail.com a écrit : Pour finir et pour peu que je n'aurai pas d'autre(s) surprise(s) concernant Logrotate, je vais passer ce fil de discussion en statut résolu - via un prochain message - dans quelques jours, après vérification par l'intermédiaire de la commande 'ls -l /var/log/syslo*'. :-) Comme promis, je reviens pour considérer mon problème comme résolu car j'ai obtenu ce que je voulais d'après le résultat de la commande 'ls -l /var/log/syslo*' que j'ai lancé aujourd'hui : -rw-r- 1 root adm 43062 août 21 05:20 syslog -rw-r- 1 root adm 10429 août 17 01:18 syslog.20150816.gz -rw-r- 1 root adm 11948 août 18 01:17 syslog.20150817.gz -rw-r- 1 root adm 12611 août 19 01:18 syslog.20150818.gz -rw-r- 1 root adm 12580 août 20 01:17 syslog.20150819.gz -rw-r- 1 root adm 192677 août 21 01:18 syslog.20150820 Donc c'est bien l'absence du paramètre dateext qui m'a causé le soucis initial. :-) Une fois de plus, je remercie Jean-Jacques D. pour sa réponse. Une dernière chose : je confirme bien qu'il n'est pas nécessaire de lancer la commande 'logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.conf' car, même en son absence, les nouveaux paramètres sont tenus compte lors du prochain passage via Cron. Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane.
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 15:57:26 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:30:18 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: I refuse to take your advice to install AV software simply because I have a mail server. I am not well advised. Or you neglect your duty to the clients of your mail server. I've said as much in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/08/msg00825.html If you have responsibility for other people's accounts you might run an antivirus. Otherwise the need for one on Debian is zero.
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 15:11:09 -0500, David Wright wrote: Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 19:24:49 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:50 +0400 Dwijesh Gajadur dwije...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Dwijesh, Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? The viruses that run on linux (any distro) are few and far between. To the extent that they don't exist. So the frequency of them is not an issue. Existing almost entirely as proof of concept. As Renaud points out, if you run a mailserver, then you would be well advised to run AV software. That software will be looking for Windows malware though, not linux. I run a mail server on Debian. All mail is handled by it. I do not run AV software, Where am I going wrong? I refuse to take your advice to install AV software simply because I have a mail server. I am not well advised. I'm getting confused. You posted earlier: On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 14:08:44 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:50 +0400 Dwijesh Gajadur dwije...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? The only time you may want an anti-virus is when you are running a mail server, so you can avoid spreading infected mails. ... to OSs which are susceptible to such viruses. It's a good neighbour policy. Could you clarify for me what you mean. Should you or shouldn't you run AV software when running a mail server? If your users are on Debian I cannot see why you should do.
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 15:45:09 -0500 John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: the main reason why we needn't worry about it on the desktop is that there are so few of us using it that it not worth the criminals' time to create it. Another is that our systems are not nearly as standardized as those from Redmont, which makes it more difficult to create something that will work on most Linux systems. Cheers, Ron. -- The Truth which makes men free is for the most part the truth which men prefer not to hear. -- Herbert Agar -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
Re: Antivirus for Debian
While it would be possible (though very difficult) to write malware for Linux the main reason why we needn't worry about it on the desktop is that there are so few of us using it that it not worth the criminals' time to create it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA
Re: trouble reconfiguring xserver-xorg
On 2015-08-20 21:17 +0200, Haines Brown wrote: Startx on a jessie desktop machine goes to a VESA display instead of the higher resolution supported by my video card. That could be a kernel bug, or the sign of a failing monitor (it might no longer give correct EDID information, for instance). Running dmesg | grep nouveau might give some hints. In Xorg log is the error: (EE) NOUVEAU(0): [COPY] failed to allocate class I searched on line for what this means without luck. Only a hint that it might be a harmless errpr. Anyone know? It probably means that you have a Tesla card which does not have a copy engine, in which case the error message is indeed harmless. From a chat I had last year on IRC[1] with upstream (zwenna is me, imirkin_ is Nouveau developer Ilia Mirkin): , | 12:08 #nouveau: zwenna xf86-video-nouveau 1.0.11 prints an an X_ERROR message in the X log file | 12:08 #nouveau: zwenna (EE) NOUVEAU(0): [COPY] failed to allocate class. | 12:08 #nouveau: zwenna it seems to work fine though | 12:09 #nouveau: imirkin_ zwenna: mind uploading your xorg log + dmesg to pastebin? | 12:13 #nouveau: zwenna imirkin_: Xorg log at http://pastebin.com/Z4MJitRT | 12:14 #nouveau: imirkin_ zwenna: ah yeah. G86 doesn't have a copy engine... | 12:14 #nouveau: zwenna dmesg is probably not that useful, I booted over two weeks ago | 12:14 #nouveau: imirkin_ yeah, the xorg log is enough | 12:14 #nouveau: imirkin_ let me take a look at the code... | 12:14 #nouveau: imirkin_ it shouldn't even be trying to create a copy engine... | 12:16 #nouveau: imirkin_ zwenna: it's harmless. there should be a check in the TESLA bit of nouveau_copy.c... | 12:19 #nouveau: imirkin_ (although i wonder if pcrypt2 can be used for this...) | 12:20 #nouveau: imirkin_ i forget if it can do rects or just straight up copies... | 12:22 #nouveau: imirkin_ nope, no rects. so it's stuck with m2mf. which is fine. | 12:29 #nouveau: imirkin_ zwenna: i sent a patch to the list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2014-September/018641.html | 12:34 #nouveau: zwenna imirkin_: thanks ` The patch was committed to git[2], but no new release has been made yet. I decided to reconfigure xserver-xorg # dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg This only returned me to the # prompt without asking any questions. Should it not be asking questions even if the nouveau driver does not allocate class? No, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is not supposed to do anything these days. If you want to try a different video driver (say, the modesetting driver), you can try this 4-line /etc/X11/xorg.conf: --8---cut here---start-8--- Section Device Identifier n Driver modesetting EndSection --8---cut here---end---8--- Cheers, Sven 1. http://people.freedesktop.org/~cbrill/dri-log/?channel=nouveaudate=2014-09-04 2. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/nouveau/xf86-video-nouveau/commit/?id=02c1aee91ae22b58e16ffd38397f9df0a087
Re: Starting, installing Redmine
On 08/20/2015 02:01 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 09:53:52AM +0200, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: I would disable the redmine.conf as it can overlap with apache2-passenger-alias.conf And it makes no sense to have 2 configs for the same application. I removed the redmine.conf file. It seemed to be a duplicate of the -alias.conf file Here's where my lack of knowledge shows. [...] You haven't set the ServerName . Please set it and restart apache2 I thought localhost or 127.0.0.1 would be OK since I am running as a stand alone application. If this isn't true then I guess I don't understand the meaning of ServerName. I'm running 4 computers plus several wireless devices behind a verizon router firewall. I use 192.168.1.0/25 for all the devices. I have a dummy domain name of quantum.com but I sort of stuck it in as a place holder when asked for a workgroup or domain. I do have internal dns setup to translate between names and IP addresses. The apache2 server and Redmine are both running on superX at 192.168.1.2 . I tried several different things in server name with no good results. With respect to Tomas's suggestion about file access, I have www-data included in group root. This may not be good security but I just want the thing to work at this point. I'll worry about security later if need be. Good catch, Alex -- this probably is it! regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlXVl00ACgkQBcgs9XrR2ka6OgCfU/O0LAH6XuvaUEtJr6bQpYU5 NOQAn0DPOjWgqe61EFlwhY3FHyYLoFGv =HH8+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- I really appreciate your help Gary R.
Re: Me vs. Qemu
On 08/20/2015 11:26 AM, Bob Bernstein wrote: I am back to the list to submit virt progress (or lack thereof) reports. I have what appears to be a working OpenBSD vm running in a very little tiny qemu window (have yet to launch X) on my Jessie. Please review the following steps I took. They may be flawed so much as to account for the _lack of networking_ on the openbsd instance. (I chose the install option of dhcp rather than give the vm a static ipv4 address That choice, dhcp, works when I use it with my Vmware Player on Windows 7 and the same OpenBSD iso image. More later...) I sorta guessed my way thru some of this stuff: To make the raw disk: 1.# qemu-img create myimage.img 12G To make the vm: 2. # qemu-system-x86_64 -boot d -cdrom cd57.iso myimage.im To launch my new vm: 3. # qemu-system-x86_64 myimage.img Comments/corrections/excoriations are welcome! If you run a GUI then Virtual Machine Manager makes this all a snap. VMM manages guest network, guest storage and guests through libvirtd. Just open a guest window and click run. Thats all there is to it. Of course you have to configure the guest... things like cpu cores, memory, network and display adapters. ...bob
Re: cons25 Terminal is Almost but not Quite Right for a Job.
Darac Marjal mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote: What terminal are you using? Are you using an actual vt100 terminal, a vt(NNN) terminal (e.g. a vt200 or vt400 or similar), the linux virtual console, a terminal emulator (such as xterm, gnome-terminal etc)? Ideally, TERM should be set to the name of the actual terminal equipment you're using, which will then give the input/output systems (mostly ncurses) the best idea of how to translate the programmer's wishes onto your display. I believe that that was the problem. Thank you. I have had a line in .bash_profile as well as .screenrc that set the terminal to vt100. That was left over from before I retired last March. At work, I was logging in to both Linux and FreeBSD boxes all day long and I seem to recall that the BSD-based boxes were happier when I identified as a vt100 terminal. The Linux terminal appears to mostly speak the same escape codes as the vtXXX terminals. After changing to a linux terminal, the stray escapes went away when I set $TERM to cons25. I now must go through .screenrc to make sure that the terminal is set to Linux or at least make sure it inherits that from the environment when it is called. Martin
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thursday 20 August 2015 20:50:43 Miles Fidelman wrote: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 19:33:17 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 20:24:16 +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? Thank you in advance. Required no, advised I guess. You guessed wrong. Although I know that proof-of-concept viruses (virii ?) have been created in computer labs, has anyone seen one alive in the wild ? Yes. There are lots of things that attack Linux, including various rootkits (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware for a partial list). Then try googling Mayhem and Shellshock (hint: can you say botnet?) There are also quite few threats that are not so much Linux-specific as application-specific. For example there are LOTS of things that attack Wordpress - I see probes and attacks in my logs by the thousands (daily) - and managed to get infected at one point. Needless to say, that installation has been hardened significantly. And then there are the attacks on the linux derivatives that run on various network devices like routers and IPMI boxes. (Just what you want attached to a server, a remote console server that will give up its password if asked nicely. Also got bit by that - someone launched a reflection attack against a commercial game server, through one of our console servers.) Linux is naturally secure is bulls*t. It's more secure than Windows, but that's not saying an awful lot. The question wasn't about security in general, when no-one is totally secure. But about viruses specifically. They are low risk on a Linux box. Lisi
Re: Antivirus for Debian
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:30:18 +0100 Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: I refuse to take your advice to install AV software simply because I have a mail server. I am not well advised. Or you neglect your duty to the clients of your mail server. Cheers, Ron. -- You can always rely on America doing the right thing Once it has exhausted the alternatives. - Sir Winston Churchill -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --
Re: Antivirus for Debian
Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 19:24:49 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:50 +0400 Dwijesh Gajadur dwije...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Dwijesh, Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? The viruses that run on linux (any distro) are few and far between. To the extent that they don't exist. So the frequency of them is not an issue. Existing almost entirely as proof of concept. As Renaud points out, if you run a mailserver, then you would be well advised to run AV software. That software will be looking for Windows malware though, not linux. I run a mail server on Debian. All mail is handled by it. I do not run AV software, Where am I going wrong? I refuse to take your advice to install AV software simply because I have a mail server. I am not well advised. I'm getting confused. You posted earlier: On Thu 20 Aug 2015 at 14:08:44 -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 21:58:50 +0400 Dwijesh Gajadur dwije...@gmail.com wrote: Hello guys. I wanted to know if antivirus is required for Debian or for linux in general. And if it is required, what are the recommended antivirus for Debian? The only time you may want an anti-virus is when you are running a mail server, so you can avoid spreading infected mails. ... to OSs which are susceptible to such viruses. It's a good neighbour policy. Could you clarify for me what you mean. Should you or shouldn't you run AV software when running a mail server? Cheers, David.
Re: Ian, this tutorial’s for you
Hey Ian, My emails have been ending up in the spam folder more often than I'd like lately and just wanted to make sure it didn't happen for you - forgetting about it is OK though ;) Let me know when you can. Best, Tiffany Tiffany | tiff...@udemy.com Udemy, as featured in: Fortune: Online education marketplace Udemy raises $65 million for international expansion... Forbes: Closing The Skills Gap: How Udemy Is Helping Anyone Learn Anything TIME Money: How I Made $100,000 Teaching Online I know not everyone likes getting emails like this, so if you don’t want to to receive emails like this anymore, simply reply (politely, please!) and let me know. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:05 pm, Tiffany T wrote: Hi Ian, Just checking in to make sure you received my first email. Let me know when you have a moment - I'd really appreciate it! Best, Tiffany Tiffany | tiff...@udemy.com Udemy, as featured in: Fortune: Online education marketplace Udemy raises $65 million for international expansion... Forbes: Closing The Skills Gap: How Udemy Is Helping Anyone Learn Anything TIME Money: How I Made $100,000 Teaching Online I know not everyone likes getting emails like this, so if you don’t want to to receive emails like this anymore, simply reply (politely, please!) and let me know. On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:12 am, Tiffany T wrote: Hi Ian, I'm from an education company called Udemy, and we have lots of students learning about Ruby on Rails. We like putting together free guides for them, so we came up with this free Ruby on Rails tutorial. We realized that our students aren't the only ones who might benefit from it, and my job was to go out and find others who might find it useful. When I found your site, I saw that you posted this tutorial from Railscasts – I really liked that page as well! Ours is similar and I think your readers would enjoy it just as much. Would you like to post it? I'll check in with you in a few days to see what you think. Thanks, Tiffany Tiffany | tiff...@udemy.com Udemy, as featured in: Fortune: Online education marketplace Udemy raises $65 million for international expansion... Forbes: Closing The Skills Gap: How Udemy Is Helping Anyone Learn Anything TIME Money: How I Made $100,000 Teaching Online I know not everyone likes getting emails like this, so if you don’t want to to receive emails like this anymore, simply reply (politely, please!) and let me know.
Re: Antivirus for Debian
https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/284124-myth-busting-is-linux-immune-to-viruses Nobody serious would claim that a system like GNU/Linux can be immune. But that doesn't mean that anti-virus software is a good way to protect a GNU/Linux system. Stefan
Re: [Cómo] Actualizar Firefox (y Thunderbird) desde consola
El 20/8/2015 4:14 p. m., Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Thu, 20 Aug 2015 16:07:10 +0200, Óscar Triana - suport...@bendel.debian.org: S.I.I. escribió: El 20/08/2015 a las 16:02, Camaleón escribió: (...) (...) Obviamente, si se tiene instalado los paquetes desde los repositorios de Debian esto no es necesario, que para eso ya está apt ;-) Y apt-get update y luego apt-get upgrade?? Pues eso, que no es necesario ;-) Llega un momento en el ciclo de vida de Debian en el que dejan de mantener los programas de Mozilla así que yo al final opté por descargar e instalarlos directamente desde Mozilla para mantenerlos siempre actualizados. Hola, En Debian se dispone siempre de las versiones ESR, creo haber comentado este tema con anterioridad. Hace unos días ha entrado la 38.2 ESR la cual reemplaza a la 31.8 anterior y la próxima que aparecerá si se sigue la hoja de ruta, será la 44 o 45 según la congelen en Mozilla. Además el equipo de Debian, nunca publican la revisión que acaba en 0, dejan pasar de 2 a 3 revisiones hasta que se estabilizan los fallos. Observa que Mozilla también mantiene las 2 versiones aplicando los parches de seguridad correspondientes, es este caso se solaparon (si no recuerdo mal), las versiones 31.7 y 31.8 con las 38.0, 38.0.1, 38.1 y 38.2. La diferencia entre ambas versiones es que la ESR es mucho más estable y recibes menos cambios nuevos que pueden afectar al funcionamiento general del navegador y no te aseguran que vayan a estar presentes al siguiente mes (esto ha ocurrido alguna vez). Creo que recibe antes la corrección de fallos de seguridad la ESR que la normal, aunque esto último no lo puedo asegurar. Un saludo, Javier Silva.
