Re: hola buenas tardes necesito ayuda con debian 8
Esta es la política del sistema que ciertos procesos que tratan de acceder al sistema fundamentalmente necesitan privilegios elevados, por lo que el núcleo del sistema operativo no se ve afectado. Eso es lo que hace que linux seguro. Por lo tanto, cada vez que reciba un mensaje como "¿Estás raíz?" o lo que sea exigente para ser la raíz, el uso de sudo antes del comando. Por ejemplo, utilice "sudo apt-get install *" en lugar de "apt-get install *". Además, puede utilizar el comando "su" en caso de que sudo no funciona, y llevar a cabo todas las operaciones como usuario root. Recuerde, el usuario root sin duda necesita la contraseña de root, que es probablemente diferente de su contraseña, depende de lo que usted optó por tiempo de instalación. ¡Buena suerte! Este mensaje fue escrito utilizando Google Translate. Pedimos disculpas por los errores, si los hay! This message was written using Google Translate. Apologies for errors, if any! Regards, Himanshu Shekhar IIIT-Allahabad IRM2015006
Re: alsa troubles
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:58:30 -0600 Glenn English wrote: > On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*d, but > > when > > I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and > > have a look at what it says. > > > Thanks very much, all of you, for your help. I'm told that PulseAudio is > spawn of Satan, but it *is* working, at least a little bit. > it's not . it's just really complex under the hood. just wait until it decides to put one of your devices into "standby". naturally when you try to use it, it won't take it back out of standby. also too, it will probably decide to switch default devices on you. you'll need to add something to one of the PA config files to make sure it doesn't do that. Brian
Re: Reinstall Stretch - Returns to Grub
ray composed on 2015-10-19 18:46 (UTC-0700): > Jude DaShiell composed on 2015-10-19 04:48 (UTC-0400): >> control-alt-f7 gets you back to graphical mode. > The system does not respond to cntrl-alt-f7 > Just to clarigy, the system is at the grub prompt in a CSM boot. > The BIOS has two settings for function key implementation. I have tried this > under both. Ctrl-Alt-F7 is only applicable after you've booted Linux. You've not even begun to boot Linux if you're looking at a grub> prompt. From a grub> prompt it is possible to boot by typing in commands similarly to the way commands work from a bash prompt. The commands you need will vary according to your system's configuration, and can be found in Grub's man page or a howto somewhere. You may find it easier to boot installation media to a rescue system to reinstall the bootloader using scripts, but it doesn't hurt to learn the basic Grub commands, in case the problem arises again in the future. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/
Re: alsa troubles
On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 01:54:34 +0300 Alex Moonshine wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:12:21 -0600 > Glenn English wrote: > > > On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying > > > s*d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse > > > Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. You > > > do not have to be a sound engineer to understand it. > > > > I'll look into installing PulseAudio. pavucontrol did try to look > > nicer that the curses alsamixer. > > > > I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer. > > > > I'm having a hard time just getting it to beep at me. > > > > I take the risk of provoking some PA-hatemail, but I > usually can't be bothered to configure alsa at all. It never works out > of the box for me on Debian (maybe it's my Creative Audigy SE that it > doesn't like), and even when I can make it, dmix > still refuses to work, making it so that only one application can play > sound at a time. > yep. i have that problem. sound on linux is still kind of annoying. Brian
Virtual box
I am wanting to install Debian into a pic tower I have and want to use it as a headless server and use a tight VNC so I can access it anywhere. Do you have any advice for me and will I need to install virtual box? Amy info you have for me would be great thanks. Sent from my iPhone
Re: alsa troubles
Glenn English [2015-10-19 14:42:26-06] wrote: >> Then you could try to put some music to that device: >> >> $ mpv music.mp3 --ao=alsa:device='[plughw:0,0]' > > Dud'n work: > > ghe@sbox:... mpv > KIMIKO_ISHIZAKA-GoldbergVariations-BWV-988-01-Aria__44k-24b.mp3 > --ao=alsa:device='[plughw:0,0]' > No command 'mpv' found, did you mean: Do: apt-get install mpv The point here is that "aplay -l" finds different devices and we try to put some sounds directly to those devices. There are higher-level tools for configuring audio but low-level tests are pretty good starting point and good for understanding basics. > I did an 'apt-search mpv' and got hundreds of ...mpv and ...mpv... > etc, but no just plain mpv. Executable files are usually in /usr/bin, so: $ apt-file search /usr/bin/mpv mpv: /usr/bin/mpv Meaning that package mpv has the file /usr/bin/mpv. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
suspend and hibernate on acer s7
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello all, I installed Debian since 10 years not using it. And I'm surprised: almost all works very well on my Acer eS7-392-54208G25tws. The only problem I found is on suspend. For the first time, it suspends correctly, but then suspend fails. I search a lot and make some changes suggested in some threads. Hibernate doesn't work at all. The error I found on syslog is this: sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Stopping disk tpm_tis 00:04: Error (28) sending savestate before suspend __pnp_bus_suspend(): tpm_pm_suspend+0x0/0x1a0 [tpm] returns 28 dpm_run_callback(): pnp_bus_suspend+0x0/0x20 returns 28 PM: Device 00:04 failed to suspend: error 28 PM: Some devices failed to suspend, or early wake event detected sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Starting disk Then, I searched that error but couldn't find anything interesting and that fixed the problem. Finaly when I rebooted, suspend works fine, only one time. Someone can help me on how debug report and correct this problem? thanks in advance - -- Lupa - - Diaspora*: https://diasp.org/u/lupa18 openPGP ID: 72FAEBB5 openPGP key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xF5662DE672FAEBB5 - - Declaracion de Confidencialidad El contenido de este mensaje de correo electronico y de sus archivos adjuntos esta(n) dirigido(s) exclusivamente a el(los) destinatario(s) del mismo. Si usted no es el destinatario indicado, o si este mensaje le ha sido enviado por error, queda advertido en el sentido de no leer, divulgar, reproducir, distribuir, diseminar o utilizar este mensaje en forma alguna. Statement of Confidentiality The contents of this e-mail message and its attachments are intended solely for the addressee(s) hereof. If you are not the named addressee, or if this message has been addressed to you in error, you are directed not to read, disclose, reproduce, distribute, disseminate or otherwise use this e-mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWJad6AAoJEPVmLeZy+uu1ZBwP/1Vx4mKYx0gSeskPTQ2YEzVY Tg1KGRJT9M6bP0H3wpUW+pSJ4LmIOGgUhJPQqPV/pMQgCeY2DvSf2rBXlTlMz60n 1VtUPuLc5e8Gv9mJPn5ksWfREhosG2r84ErB+Y1aCjKrcDfII1j1Ip9Ke5R4gzdo PtnZnu5Ilm95elmivcLCmlNHKwWEsrZwj7Q3KR3Z/rwUYFyyhJfEC2wEYS0u5YIh dV9pS68O77pwTjiYmm9mnu7MbRWoJoUxItZKQOemnaWLYYmvz2GP8K/D/R/L7tiu 8AARN6IEIx0lumLrvJ4FB4uDk6WvO0Dg3p0fereWXqFIs/HeoqjziwA+v+pL9Hoy jwX9Z6T1O7KDoYUJKikIxN9vJ07DLqZYOQuduzENKLk4iazUAHSgCX/JHL+WPA4i gi53nIHlLCXxO5vHTWvLcw0HN5su+jwJkqo0Eqlp4BIXgdfqfldUrJQD+rXvhDb1 ezJLrmovi5iRaHDYgHpkSaD5WIkRnhfVewwNI7cszrtfYmGIM0ORv0fvtRs/SM9q Wbn2ZR8fJhYO7C7ARvFkcDUGNxnodTRQDoTqsjnG/Le7wFlvM3uT4W4qoauqTtMi ztQR/NmgV+5dI8vpJ25MRY06hcQJswqo33QGUiv86ZMGxn6bi/ByuAYTtqEDhCQF 3mWDzECphXNAKAChl61C =kH5s -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Reinstall Stretch - Returns to Grub
> control-alt-f7 gets you back to graphical mode. On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, ray > wrote: The system does not respond to cntrl-alt-f7 Just to clarigy, the system is at the grub prompt in a CSM boot. The BIOS has two settings for function key implementation. I have tried this under both.
Re: Reinstall Stretch - Returns to Grub
It is my understanding that UEFI is appropriate for systems with HDD > 2TB.
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Re: How to make apt-transport-https accept security.debian.org bad certificate?
El 19/10/15 a las 18:37, Michael Jones escribió: > perhaps there is also a flag for apt to ignore ssl errors, but > wouldn't that defeat the purpose of ssl? Indeed. That is why I asked for an option to accept the bad certificate only (instead of ignoring all TLS errors). El 19/10/15 a las 18:37, Michael Jones escribió: > for untrusted certs (i don't think this is the issue here), you can > always import these into either the OS, or the application (eg java > uses jsecerts under lib security). Right. That don't seems to be the problem. The error message complains that the certificate is invalid for that domain. You can check this with your browser. El 19/10/15 a las 18:37, Michael Jones escribió: > try /etc/hosts if you don't mind mapping the domain (you may not want > to do this as you won't be able to visit the domain you are re-mapping). Are you sure that "/etc/hosts" can be used for that?. As far as I know "/etc/hosts" is used to locally assign the IP addresses to domain names, for domain name resolution, instead of, or overriding the usual DNS resolution procedure. I do not understand how I could use /etc/hosts to work around this problem. Suppose I make "security.debian.org" resolve to one of the IP addresses of "debian.org". Apt will still "think" that is is connecting to "security.debian.org", so there will still be a certificate mismatch, plus as an added problem. it is contacting the wrong server now. Regards. El 19/10/15 a las 18:37, Michael Jones escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 20/10/15 00:15, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: My question is: How can I make "apt-get" accept the certificate anyway, but only _this_ certificate or other certificates that are otherwise valid but have the same subdomain mismatch error (it should reject a bogus certificate from an attacker)?. In addition, where is the correct place to report this error?. as far as i'm aware most applications that connect using ssl won't accept an invalid cert on the basis of incorrect domain (even if it's a trusted cert). (like i think the issue is here). what you could try is an /etc/hosts entry to use the same domain as the cert (if the server will accept that domain). for untrusted certs (i don't think this is the issue here), you can always import these into either the OS, or the application (eg java uses jsecerts under lib security). perhaps there is also a flag for apt to ignore ssl errors, but wouldn't that defeat the purpose of ssl? try /etc/hosts if you don't mind mapping the domain (you may not want to do this as you won't be able to visit the domain you are re-mapping). Kind Regards, Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWJX6xAAoJEOYwtpHNe8FmjV0H/iO25LwLCOZUIYbQU8tWf96E +fxBft9w6wrlOQOqHDseZ5wZeE2PrXIS80FbnTZQKfEftEx05d87+M+blfVo6DTi NH19lzNKtG3YTSE2WoSBMo5NzIOgTP/EGry4EM2Ab92ORkTu/P6GQ+qJePA2BUcm br6Q6IN8bCvIu10I296Uxby+7+FmO0ovL7IEzJiUNRpId7crAcoHkaICfGEk5GlP doqdBmx1J8kMFW7zwRIbeH9c8luZA7b+KJAkwF7ev3DO39BvxNa6xb0rqT62FbXh TzGA6vJQ2C1AyNu0cK2YuzUCevAOceeYOcV9B5gg7L+0zzN5btOLhgWaxLez6Uo= =z67Q -END PGP SIGNATURE-
How to make apt-transport-https accept security.debian.org bad certificate?
Hello. I intend to use a secure connection (that means at the *transport* level) for downloading packages and lists from the Debian repository. I installed apt-transport-https. There seems to be no list of mirrors that accept HTTPS; nonetheless, I found that some listed mirrors accept HTTPS (for example mirrors.kernel.org). I configured one of them in my "sources.list". When I run "apt-get update", I get the following error: -BEGIN PASTED TEXT Err https://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources SSL: certificate subject name (debian.org) does not match target host name 'security.debian.org' Err https://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages SSL: certificate subject name (debian.org) does not match target host name 'security.debian.org' Fetched 7637 kB in 33s (231 kB/s) W: Failed to fetch https://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources SSL: certificate subject name (debian.org) does not match target host name 'security.debian.org' W: Failed to fetch https://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages SSL: certificate subject name (debian.org) does not match target host name 'security.debian.org' E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. -END PASTED TEXT There is a problem: security.debian.org has a bad certificate and there are no official mirrors. The certificate is only valid for "www.debian.org" and "debian.org", not "security.debian.org". You can check this with your browser by going to https://security.debian.org/. My question is: How can I make "apt-get" accept the certificate anyway, but only _this_ certificate or other certificates that are otherwise valid but have the same subdomain mismatch error (it should reject a bogus certificate from an attacker)?. In addition, where is the correct place to report this error?. The relevant lines in "/etc/apt/sources.list" are: -BEGIN PASTED TEXT deb https://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main deb-src https://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main -END PASTED TEXT I know that the packages are signed. I am not looking for suggestions to not to use HTTPS. I can use unencrypted connections, of course, but I am looking to have an added layer of security. Regards and thanks in advance.
Re: alsa troubles
On 10/19/2015 05:16 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: Ah! I had that earlier today. V. faint on headphones. Unplugged headphones, used netbook's built-in speakers and I had sound. Fix: go to pavucontrol and turn up the volume. That worked for me :-) The motherboard sounds about like I expected it to: awful. Do any of you know off the top of your head how to get my RME Hammerfall card going on PA? That's the card I used with alsa, and it was not at all a trivial job to get it going. But, lordie, the sound! It's what digital audio is capable of... -- Glenn English
Re: How to make apt-transport-https accept security.debian.org bad certificate?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 - Forwarded Message clicked reply, not reply list... On 20/10/15 00:15, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > My question is: How can I make "apt-get" accept the certificate > anyway, but only _this_ certificate or other certificates that are > otherwise valid but have the same subdomain mismatch error (it > should reject a bogus certificate from an attacker)?. In addition, > where is the correct place to report this error?. as far as i'm aware most applications that connect using ssl won't accept an invalid cert on the basis of incorrect domain (even if it's a trusted cert). (like i think the issue is here). what you could try is an /etc/hosts entry to use the same domain as the cert (if the server will accept that domain). for untrusted certs (i don't think this is the issue here), you can always import these into either the OS, or the application (eg java uses jsecerts under lib security). perhaps there is also a flag for apt to ignore ssl errors, but wouldn't that defeat the purpose of ssl? try /etc/hosts if you don't mind mapping the domain (you may not want to do this as you won't be able to visit the domain you are re-mapping). Kind Regards, Mike -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWJYKvAAoJEOYwtpHNe8FmmU0IAIB0C5fPQNIqo+6zUhEOoQo9 7q/+BvcToGo3TaPnvWzGnRpRQLE0AZC2/kyp4fQCLzi9SdVodYvA+09uF/ku9AhL /Ri6byv0QsMjlm/f78efPxDz1JYCngDocVCfJl9/4SPKGzHQPvZY/CwQR0cqKQ0L zk7DIt5di67bMOrCW1R/YPECpYunyhRy9X42huujCzuLWaxCkL8qz4l3Zvu/kCW8 11qDmQOkzu9DGmKZ6DGe8i+3YgL+3lHFIdYitxG+AZlbUAtO7kak261dKM922yNk WQa/Kgta8x5tdZ5+1Uoje9sbUlAeOIyTuSgsc+f+RAWMHkhwuvNRcjs0o3ELypY= =46ee -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: alsa troubles
On Monday 19 October 2015 23:58:30 Glenn English wrote: > On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*d, but > > when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install > > pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. > > I hear something! It's not very loud, and it's from the wrong jack, but > there's a very quiet piano there. I turned on AC3 and MPEG in pavucontrol. Ah! I had that earlier today. V. faint on headphones. Unplugged headphones, used netbook's built-in speakers and I had sound. > I'd sure like to know what I'm doing wrong, but I suspect that trial and > error will eventually get it done. > > Thanks very much, all of you, for your help. I'm told that PulseAudio is > spawn of Satan, but it *is* working, at least a little bit. It does. Satan has all the best tunes.* Lisi * http://www.movements.net/2005/04/14/why-should-the-devil-have-all-the-best-tunes.html
Re: alsa troubles
On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. I hear something! It's not very loud, and it's from the wrong jack, but there's a very quiet piano there. I turned on AC3 and MPEG in pavucontrol. I'd sure like to know what I'm doing wrong, but I suspect that trial and error will eventually get it done. Thanks very much, all of you, for your help. I'm told that PulseAudio is spawn of Satan, but it *is* working, at least a little bit. -- Glenn English
Re: alsa troubles
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:12:21 -0600 Glenn English wrote: > On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying > > s*d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse > > Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. You > > do not have to be a sound engineer to understand it. > > I'll look into installing PulseAudio. pavucontrol did try to look > nicer that the curses alsamixer. > > I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer. > > I'm having a hard time just getting it to beep at me. > I take the risk of provoking some PA-hatemail, but I usually can't be bothered to configure alsa at all. It never works out of the box for me on Debian (maybe it's my Creative Audigy SE that it doesn't like), and even when I can make it, dmix still refuses to work, making it so that only one application can play sound at a time. As for PA, I don't even know what config options for it look like, I just install it and there's suddenly sound. -- Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. Best wishes, Alex S.
Re: alsa troubles
On Monday 19 October 2015 23:41:38 Glenn English wrote: > On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*d, but > > when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install > > pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. > > Done. pavucontrol makes a pretty picture on my screen, with lots of > buttons to click on and no complaints. I tried several that seemed > promising. > > Still no sound. There are several 3.5mm jacks on the back of the > machine, one of which is supposed to be the headphone jack. I've plugged > into all of them, and get clicks in some of them, but no Goldbergs yet. > > I'm using VLC to check on things. I tried mpv (suggested earlier in > another response), but it's still not installed, and I can't find it. > > pavucontrol has, in its menus, several things mentioned in the > Supermicro manual for this machine, so it looks like there's some > interaction between pavucontrol and the motherboard. But it just won't > make any noise. What does it say under hardware? Is it looking at the right hardware? Does it say that it is plugged in and turned on? Is it talking to the right sound card? Speakers? Is everything unmuted? Turned up? Come on! I am not a sound engineer, and so far I have always managed to get pavucontrol to tell me eventually, somewhere, what the trouble is. Lisi
Re: alsa troubles
On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. Done. pavucontrol makes a pretty picture on my screen, with lots of buttons to click on and no complaints. I tried several that seemed promising. Still no sound. There are several 3.5mm jacks on the back of the machine, one of which is supposed to be the headphone jack. I've plugged into all of them, and get clicks in some of them, but no Goldbergs yet. I'm using VLC to check on things. I tried mpv (suggested earlier in another response), but it's still not installed, and I can't find it. pavucontrol has, in its menus, several things mentioned in the Supermicro manual for this machine, so it looks like there's some interaction between pavucontrol and the motherboard. But it just won't make any noise. -- Glenn English
re: Networking performance script
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Re: alsa troubles
On 10/19/2015 04:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. You do not have to be a sound engineer to understand it. I *am* a sound engineer. At least that's what I was before I switched to computers. Last time I played with sound in Debian was back when alsa was a shiny new thing. I'll look into installing PulseAudio. pavucontrol did try to look nicer that the curses alsamixer. I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer. I'm having a hard time just getting it to beep at me. -- Glenn English
Re: alsa troubles
On Monday 19 October 2015 22:54:44 Glenn English wrote: > On 10/19/2015 03:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Since you appear to have Pulse Audio, > > I didn't know I did :-) > > why not use pavucontrol? > > It asked me to have my sysadmin install pavucontrol. So I did When I ran > it, and it said: > > "Connection to PulseAudio failed..." > > So maybe I really don't have PA? Or have I not configured something > properly? > > Since I didn't think PA was on this machine, I haven't done any audio > configuration, alsa or Pulse. Oh dear, it did say "unable to connect". My mistake. > ghe@sbox:~... alsamixer > ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) * **Pulse Audio***: Unable to connect: > Connection refused > > cannot open mixer: Connection refused > ghe@sbox:~... sudo alsamixer > ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) ***Pulse Audio***: Unable to connect: > Connection refused I almost hardly dare say it, it is barely better than saying s*d, but when I have a problem with sound, I install Pulse Audio, install pavucontrol, and have a look at what it says. You do not have to be a sound engineer to understand it. I can rarely make head or tails of alsamixer. Lisi
Re: alsa troubles
On 10/19/2015 03:39 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: Since you appear to have Pulse Audio, I didn't know I did :-) why not use pavucontrol? It asked me to have my sysadmin install pavucontrol. So I did When I ran it, and it said: "Connection to PulseAudio failed..." So maybe I really don't have PA? Or have I not configured something properly? Since I didn't think PA was on this machine, I haven't done any audio configuration, alsa or Pulse. -- Glenn English
Re: alsa troubles
On Monday 19 October 2015 21:53:15 Glenn English wrote: > On 10/19/2015 02:04 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > > $ apt-file search libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so > > libasound2-plugins: > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so > > I did the same thing, got the same info, installed libasound2-plugins, > got the same response as myself and as root: > > ghe@sbox:~... alsamixer > ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect: > Connection refused > > cannot open mixer: Connection refused > ghe@sbox:~... sudo alsamixer > ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect: > Connection refused > > cannot open mixer: Connection refused Since you appear to have Pulse Audio, why not use pavucontrol? Lisi
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Monday 19 October 2015 16:35:03 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:39:13AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > > > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's > > > all. > > > > Hallelujah! Thank you, tomas. That went to the list only, with nary a > > sign of a copy to Brian. > > Well, that's embarrasing. Turns out I had a mistake in my setup. > > I owe you a $BEVERAGE of your choice (whithin reasonable bounds ;-) -- so > if you run into me in one of the usual conferences, go ahead! Thank you! I accept. Fortunately for you, and sadly for me, I'm not allowed by my doctors to drink Chateau d'Yquem, so I shall have to toast you in fizzy mineral water. > Believe me or not -- it was never my intention to troll. I do believe you! Though how on earth you managed to sit through what we were saying, and especially what I was saying off list, without checking your headers or settings, does somewhat bemuse me. :-/ The trouble is, I know what I mean to type, so that is what I see. Presumably you knew what your settings were supposed to be, so that is what you saw. > Hanlon's razor[1] > applies. > > [1] "Never attribute to malice what can appropriately be explained by > stupidity" The older I get, the truer I see that that is. I apologise for misspelling your name. That is something I try to be meticulous about, but I had never till now noticed the accent. Though I had noticed that you do not use an initial capital. Lisi
Re: Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
Quoting Ivan Boro (magwa@yandex.ru): > On 10/19/2015 07:07 PM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > /etc/fstab is in the root file system. Thus, the system can only > > examine /etc/fstab _after_ the root file system has been mounted... > > > > Instead you may want to examine the kernel command line (e.g. in grub > > or /proc/cmdline) - it should have "root=" in it. Nowadays that is > > often specified via a UUID - and the UUID stays the same if if you move > > disks about. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Yes. Fun thing, I've accidentally put /dev/vda1 to my host's > filesystem's fstab, and the host system runs init as pid=0. > Everything boots normally. Now I doubt, is the root entry present in the > fstab file generated automatically during system setup. As others have said, when the system boots, grub will know which filesystem is wanted as root for each menu entry. However, grub can only find out which filesystem that is in the first place by being told correctly by you. So keep your /etc/fstab up-to-date with correct entries. /etc/fstab should never be modified by the system, but only by you/the sysadmin. One difference with systemd is that incorrect information is more likely to cause problems than with sysv-style booting. A way of thinking about this is that sysv "interprets" fstab line by line whereas systemd "compiles" it whole. Cheers, David.
Re: alsa troubles
On 10/19/2015 02:04 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: $ apt-file search libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so libasound2-plugins: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so I did the same thing, got the same info, installed libasound2-plugins, got the same response as myself and as root: ghe@sbox:~... alsamixer ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect: Connection refused cannot open mixer: Connection refused ghe@sbox:~... sudo alsamixer ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) Pulse Audio: Unable to connect: Connection refused cannot open mixer: Connection refused -- Glenn English
Re: alsa troubles
On 10/19/2015 10:51 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote: I would continue with "aplay -l". What does it say? ghe@sbox:~/open_goldberg_variations_mp3_24_44$ sudo aplay -l List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 Then you could try to put some music to that device: $ mpv music.mp3 --ao=alsa:device='[plughw:0,0]' Dud'n work: ghe@sbox:... mpv KIMIKO_ISHIZAKA-GoldbergVariations-BWV-988-01-Aria__44k-24b.mp3 --ao=alsa:device='[plughw:0,0]' No command 'mpv' found, did you mean: Command 'mpd' from package 'mpd' (main) Command 'mpb' from package 'mpb' (main) Command 'mpc' from package 'mpc' (main) Command 'mmv' from package 'mmv' (main) Command 'mpmv' from package 'mpdtoys' (main) Command 'mev' from package 'gpm' (main) Command 'pv' from package 'pv' (main) Command 'mcv' from package 'scotch' (main) Command 'mv' from package 'coreutils' (main) Command 'mp' from package 'mp' (main) mpv: command not found I tried it as root and got just the mpv: command not found I did an 'apt-search mpv' and got hundreds of ...mpv and ...mpv... etc, but no just plain mpv. -- Glenn English
Re: How to run 'vnstat' as user?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 06:09:41PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > writes: > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 03:09:29PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > >> I'm having great difficulty in getting vnstat to run as user, like I had > >> on my previous i386 computer [...] > > Hmm. Trying to understand: you are trying to run vmstat from cron? > > Does it work when you run it from the command linee? > > > > No, I only store the "eth0" in a subdirectory of my cron directory. I am > trying to start it as user on the command-line. Still confused here. What's the content of this "eth0" file? regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYlSyIACgkQBcgs9XrR2kYSggCeKSyYjIu9JTk8CE4QT0/Uz4/V yCgAn0FkBT19hZeMn0rlx37VGPR4C8IT =vGNK -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Nouveau Cache Error
On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 22:53 +0300, David Baron wrote: > OK, but these errors are marked by smart so may indicate disk > problems. That seems very, very odd, please post logs. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: alsa troubles
* to...@tuxteam.de [2015-10-19 18:12 +0200]: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:32:38AM -0600, Glenn English wrote: [...] > > > root@sbox:~# alsamixer > > > ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so > > > cannot open mixer: No such device or address > > > > Going down that series of directories with 'ls ', I don't > > seem to have alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find > > was source code for it. I doubt that compiling the code is > > required for such a (seemingly) common library. > > > > 'find / -iname "*alsa-lib*"' shows nothing anywhere. > > What lets you think you need a package (or file) named alsa-lib? He is right! > There's no package alsa-lib; apt-file (recommended) shows a couple of > packages having directories with that name, and there's a virtual > package called just "alsa" -- I guess this will be all you need? $ apt-file search libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so libasound2-plugins: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so Elimar -- Obviously the human brain works like a computer. Since there are no stupid computers humans can't be stupid. There are just a few running with Windows or even CE ;-)
Re: Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
On 10/19/2015 10:19 PM, David Baron wrote: > On Monday 19 October 2015 19:21:18 Ivan Boro wrote: > >> Thats right. > >> > >> > When you think about it, it has to be. /etc/fstab is on your root > >> > filesystem. How do you read that file without knowing where the root > >> > filesystem is? > >> > >> Thank you for the detailed answer. Removed the / entry from fstab - > >> everything works fine. > >> Sorry for the mess. > >> > >> Ivan Boro > > > > Systemd balks at that / entry. > > Does this mean that it no longer belongs in fstab? > > Will init startups still work without it? > Actually, was mistaken. The options from / entry in fstab with incorrect partition for / are processed correctly. If I remove / entry in fstab or specify it by a wrong uuid, root filesystem is mounted readonly. Haven't tested the whole thing with init, but so far, incorrect value fstab for dev in /dev/* form is processed the same way. Sorry for the mess, again. Seems like it has nothing do do with the very systemd. Ivan Boro
Re: Nouveau Cache Error
On Monday 19 October 2015 21:43:41 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 22:16 +0300, David Baron wrote: > > Getting Nouveau cache read errors, source from smart. > > Can freeze system (KDE). > > Where is this cache? > > Have plenty of room. > > > > Debian Sid box. > > It's not disk space, it's most likely problem with the graphics driver. > Without knowing specifics, there's quite a few hits on Google for > nouveau and CACHE_ERROR. > > Considering that nouveau is a reverse engineered driver the usual help > is to see if it's fixed with a recent kernel/drm/mesa/xorg driver. > > If it is something that worked before, try older releases and file a > bug against the package that introduced the break. OK, but these errors are marked by smart so may indicate disk problems.
Re: Nouveau Cache Error
On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 22:16 +0300, David Baron wrote: > Getting Nouveau cache read errors, source from smart. > Can freeze system (KDE). > Where is this cache? > Have plenty of room. > > Debian Sid box. It's not disk space, it's most likely problem with the graphics driver. Without knowing specifics, there's quite a few hits on Google for nouveau and CACHE_ERROR. Considering that nouveau is a reverse engineered driver the usual help is to see if it's fixed with a recent kernel/drm/mesa/xorg driver. If it is something that worked before, try older releases and file a bug against the package that introduced the break. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
On Monday 19 October 2015 19:21:18 Ivan Boro wrote: > Thats right. > > > When you think about it, it has to be. /etc/fstab is on your root > > filesystem. How do you read that file without knowing where the root > > filesystem is? > > Thank you for the detailed answer. Removed the / entry from fstab - > everything works fine. > Sorry for the mess. > > Ivan Boro Systemd balks at that / entry. Does this mean that it no longer belongs in fstab? Will init startups still work without it?
Nouveau Cache Error
Getting Nouveau cache read errors, source from smart. Can freeze system (KDE). Where is this cache? Have plenty of room. Debian Sid box.
Re: alsa troubles
On Oct 19, 2015, at 10:51 AM, Teemu Likonen wrote: > I would continue with "aplay -l". What does it say? List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC888 Digital [ALC888 Digital] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 > Then you could try to put some music to that device: > >$ mpv music.mp3 --ao=alsa:device='[plughw:0,0]' > > Where [plughw:0,0] has first the card number (0) and then the device > number (0). Thanks. I'll try that after breakfast :-) -- Glenn English
Re: alsa troubles
On Oct 19, 2015, at 10:12 AM, wrote: > What lets you think you need a package (or file) named alsa-lib? >>> root@sbox:~# alsamixer >>> ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library >>> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so >>> cannot open mixer: No such device or address >> >> Going down that series of directories with 'ls ', I don't seem to have >> alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find was source code for it. >> I doubt that compiling the code is required for such a (seemingly) common >> library. That running alsamixer says it can't run because of the above error message, and that the directory /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/ doesn't exist on my machine. > There's no package alsa-lib; That would certainly explain why I couldn't find it :-) > apt-file (recommended) shows a couple of > packages having directories with that name, I didn't know about apt-file, but it does find alsa-lib (and the module alsamixer was looking for) -- in libasound2-plugins, so I installed it. Now: > root@sbox:~# alsamixer > ALSA lib pulse.c:243:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: > Connection refused > > cannot open mixer: Connection refused Do I need to do something about pulsaAudio? I think I've read that it's possible to deal with just alsa. No? (I haven't done any audio work on Debian since the Lenny days.) -- Glenn English
Re: Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
On 10/19/2015 07:07 PM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > Hi > > On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 18:24 +0300, Ivan Boro wrote: >> Looks like subj. >> Have a KVM machine with jessie assembled via debootstrap. Fstab states >> >> /dev/vda2 / ext4rw 0 0 >> >> The partition labeled vda2 is listed in grub.cfg as the root partition >> by its uuid.(via update-grub) >> >> Added a disk to have swap on it. Booted normally, despite the fact, that >> the new swap-disk was automatically labeled as vda and the disk with >> root is as vdb: >> >> # mount | grep ' / ' >> /dev/vdb2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) >> >> No errors or warnings in dmesg. >> >> So, systemd mounted root partition, whitout looking into fstab. >> >> I don't have much experience in systemd, and now wonder how this "smart" >> mount works. > > Well - I doubt this is systemd specific. > > /etc/fstab is in the root file system. Thus, the system can only > examine /etc/fstab _after_ the root file system has been mounted... > > Instead you may want to examine the kernel command line (e.g. in grub > or /proc/cmdline) - it should have "root=" in it. Nowadays that is > often specified via a UUID - and the UUID stays the same if if you move > disks about. > > Hope this helps > Yes. Fun thing, I've accidentally put /dev/vda1 to my host's filesystem's fstab, and the host system runs init as pid=0. Everything boots normally. Now I doubt, is the root entry present in the fstab file generated automatically during system setup.
Re: How to run 'vnstat' as user?
writes: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 03:09:29PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: >> I'm having great difficulty in getting vnstat to run as user, like I had >> on my previous i386 computer. I have created the new 64bit eth0 binary >> file in ~/cron/lib/ so that it is backed up with my regular backups with >> obnam. Except it seems that only root or vnstat can run and own the >> ~/cron/lib/eth0, which is then unable to be backed up with obnam because >> its only a user backup and not root. >> >> How then can I run vnstat as a user please? > > Hmm. Trying to understand: you are trying to run vmstat from cron? > Does it work when you run it from the command linee? > No, I only store the "eth0" in a subdirectory of my cron directory. I am trying to start it as user on the command-line. Thanks Sharon -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian 8.0, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 24.5.50.3 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
Hi On Mon, 2015-10-19 at 18:24 +0300, Ivan Boro wrote: > Looks like subj. > Have a KVM machine with jessie assembled via debootstrap. Fstab states > > /dev/vda2 / ext4rw 0 0 > > The partition labeled vda2 is listed in grub.cfg as the root partition > by its uuid.(via update-grub) > > Added a disk to have swap on it. Booted normally, despite the fact, that > the new swap-disk was automatically labeled as vda and the disk with > root is as vdb: > > # mount | grep ' / ' > /dev/vdb2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) > > No errors or warnings in dmesg. > > So, systemd mounted root partition, whitout looking into fstab. > > I don't have much experience in systemd, and now wonder how this "smart" > mount works. Well - I doubt this is systemd specific. /etc/fstab is in the root file system. Thus, the system can only examine /etc/fstab _after_ the root file system has been mounted... Instead you may want to examine the kernel command line (e.g. in grub or /proc/cmdline) - it should have "root=" in it. Nowadays that is often specified via a UUID - and the UUID stays the same if if you move disks about. Hope this helps -- Karl E. Jorgensen
Re: alsa troubles
Glenn English [2015-10-19 10:32:38-06] wrote: >> root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i audio >> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD >> Audio Controller >> 03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI >> Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series] > > As best I can tell, that Intel chip is a valid sound chip for Wheezy, > and this is the machine where I did a netinstall. I would continue with "aplay -l". What does it say? Among other things it should tell something like: card 0: blah blah [blah], device 0: blah [more blah] Then you could try to put some music to that device: $ mpv music.mp3 --ao=alsa:device='[plughw:0,0]' Where [plughw:0,0] has first the card number (0) and then the device number (0). signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: alsa troubles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:32:38AM -0600, Glenn English wrote: > I'm trying to get sound to work (most of my computers are used as servers, so > it's usually not something I worry about). > > I'm running Wheezy on a SuperMicro 5036T-T box. > > > root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i audio > > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio > > Controller > > 03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI Audio > > [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series] > > As best I can tell, that Intel chip is a valid sound chip for Wheezy, and > this is the machine where I did a netinstall. > > > root@sbox:~# alsamixer > > ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so > > cannot open mixer: No such device or address > > Going down that series of directories with 'ls ', I don't seem to have > alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find was source code for it. I > doubt that compiling the code is required for such a (seemingly) common > library. > > 'find / -iname "*alsa-lib*"' shows nothing anywhere. What lets you think you need a package (or file) named alsa-lib? There's no package alsa-lib; apt-file (recommended) shows a couple of packages having directories with that name, and there's a virtual package called just "alsa" -- I guess this will be all you need? regards - -- tomas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYlFoUACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZKGwCfSkuApxFghV0QV6koIy/YBVnL H1wAn0kNS35bHuYlSk3tMg+iaubIujO2 =7MqU -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
Thats right. > When you think about it, it has to be. /etc/fstab is on your root > filesystem. How do you read that file without knowing where the root > filesystem is? Thank you for the detailed answer. Removed the / entry from fstab - everything works fine. Sorry for the mess. Ivan Boro
Re: How to run 'vnstat' as user?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 03:09:29PM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote: > I'm having great difficulty in getting vnstat to run as user, like I had > on my previous i386 computer. I have created the new 64bit eth0 binary > file in ~/cron/lib/ so that it is backed up with my regular backups with > obnam. Except it seems that only root or vnstat can run and own the > ~/cron/lib/eth0, which is then unable to be backed up with obnam because > its only a user backup and not root. > > How then can I run vnstat as a user please? Hmm. Trying to understand: you are trying to run vmstat from cron? Does it work when you run it from the command linee? regards - - tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYlFVMACgkQBcgs9XrR2kaacACfS1VlVDlraqq9dgUipMDrWvLv 5cMAn2ayfLIEKQ42eWTdRK9Y0lXJwvPK =KMZ/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
alsa troubles
I'm trying to get sound to work (most of my computers are used as servers, so it's usually not something I worry about). I'm running Wheezy on a SuperMicro 5036T-T box. > root@sbox:~# lspci | egrep -i audio > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio > Controller > 03:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Cedar HDMI Audio > [Radeon HD 5400/6300 Series] As best I can tell, that Intel chip is a valid sound chip for Wheezy, and this is the machine where I did a netinstall. > root@sbox:~# alsamixer > ALSA lib dlmisc.c:254:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so > cannot open mixer: No such device or address Going down that series of directories with 'ls ', I don't seem to have alsa-lib. I looked on the web, and all I could find was source code for it. I doubt that compiling the code is required for such a (seemingly) common library. 'find / -iname "*alsa-lib*"' shows nothing anywhere. I have a number of alsa-looking things installed. But, according to Aptitude, alsa-lib isn't in any of them: > root@sbox:~# ls /var/cache/apt/archives/ | egrep -i alsa > alsa-base_1.0.25+3~deb7u1_all.deb > alsamixergui_0.9.0rc2-1-9.1_amd64.deb > alsa-utils_1.0.25-4_amd64.deb > gstreamer0.10-alsa_0.10.36-1.1_amd64.deb Any thought or solutions? Like which package alsa-lib is in, or why it wasn't installed when I did the original install? -- Glenn English
Re: Can send but can't receive mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:52:31PM +0100, webdes...@creoconcept.com wrote: > Hi! > > So I'm trying to use Kmail and I can send mail, even though the mail i > send from the client doesn't show up in the Sent folder (but the mail I > send from the webmail does show up there). I just can't receive anything. > The inbox shows up empty. I don't know what to do about this because my > friend is using the same internet connection, Kmail configuration, etc as > I am and he's not having any problems with it... > > When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, Sent > Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. I have very little idea about KMail, so going out on a limb here... According to [1], Akonadi is involved in fetching the mails for KMail. It logs go to a file named .xsession-errors in your home directory (see the reference below). So have a look at it, if unsure show it to someone knowledgeable. If you post parts of it here, be careful: it might contain passwords, you should delete those (or replace them by something else, like ). I'm serious about the last part. Regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYlEpcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kb04gCfbCOGbfKuUCWLjTyZ6hT2y7lG 3GwAn3CNKj7vNywKlRMtu0meGBhIEbaE =TKDR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 05:59:15PM +0300, Ivan Boro wrote: > Looks like subj. > Have a KVM machine with jessie assembled via debootstrap. Fstab states > > /dev/vda2 / ext4rw 0 0 > > The partition labeled vda2 is listed in grub.cfg as the > root partition by its uuid.(via update-grub) > > Added a disk to have swap on it. Booted normally, despite > the fact, that the new swap-disk was automatically labeled > as vda and the disk with root is as vdb: > > # mount | grep ' / ' > /dev/vdb2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) > > So, systemd mounted root partition, whitout looking into fstab. > > I don't have much experience in systemd, and now wonder how > this "smart" mount works. This isn't a systemd "trick", but rather the job of the initrd/initramfs. Back in the good old days, finding the root filesystem was easy (it was /dev/hdaX, or possibly /dev/sdaX if you were on a server with a SCSI card). Nowadays, with LVM, RAID, encrypted file systems, iSCSI etc etc, there are times when the kernel can't mount the root filesystem by itself. So distributions (such as Debian) use an "initial ram disk" to help find root. This consists of a single disk image which is provided to the kernel by the boot-loader. The disk image contains several tools to "discover" where the root file system is and mount it at a known point. When the tools on the initrd are done, the kernel switches to that new root file system and continues boot. Now, you mention that you told grub that root is at UUID=. This will be passed to the kernel and the initrd scripts will pick up on that. So your root filesystem is mounted by UUID. When you think about it, it has to be. /etc/fstab is on your root filesystem. How do you read that file without knowing where the root filesystem is? > > Ivan Boro > -- For more information, please reread. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: whatsapp on Debian?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 09:08:55AM -0300, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > Oops! SOme post on top others and me post beneath ... Duh... [yeah, coufusing it is, is not it?] > Hi y'all, > Interesting faux pas on the Bluestacks web page: Trying to download using > Debian it switches to a page with lots of fuss but only one wee information: > "Your operating system is not supported" > Hey guys! I can download anything with any OS and install it on my MAC or any > MS-Windows OS I own if I choose to - NOT? Perhaps you can coax your browser to lie a bit ;-) - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYlDkcACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZPKQCcDCuOenx471zTu3dQoVa3swPw UMYAnipEVFItTkW2UZQANLUrBcPN6LC/ =ow/K -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:39:13AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. > > Hallelujah! Thank you, tomas. That went to the list only, with nary a sign > of a copy to Brian. Well, that's embarrasing. Turns out I had a mistake in my setup. I owe you a $BEVERAGE of your choice (whithin reasonable bounds ;-) -- so if you run into me in one of the usual conferences, go ahead! Believe me or not -- it was never my intention to troll. Hanlon's razor[1] applies. [1] "Never attribute to malice what can appropriately be explained by stupidity" Regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYlDacACgkQBcgs9XrR2kY2wACfQEW4VB/TJhhn352KnlNWHPyZ b+kAn1GjEDCP8wCJ2L2vTUhDB7nNixLE =V4re -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
Looks like subj. Have a KVM machine with jessie assembled via debootstrap. Fstab states /dev/vda2 / ext4rw 0 0 The partition labeled vda2 is listed in grub.cfg as the root partition by its uuid.(via update-grub) Added a disk to have swap on it. Booted normally, despite the fact, that the new swap-disk was automatically labeled as vda and the disk with root is as vdb: # mount | grep ' / ' /dev/vdb2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) No errors or warnings in dmesg. So, systemd mounted root partition, whitout looking into fstab. I don't have much experience in systemd, and now wonder how this "smart" mount works. Ivan Boro cc, please.
Systemd bybasses fstab mounting root partition(?)
Looks like subj. Have a KVM machine with jessie assembled via debootstrap. Fstab states /dev/vda2 / ext4rw 0 0 The partition labeled vda2 is listed in grub.cfg as the root partition by its uuid.(via update-grub) Added a disk to have swap on it. Booted normally, despite the fact, that the new swap-disk was automatically labeled as vda and the disk with root is as vdb: # mount | grep ' / ' /dev/vdb2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) So, systemd mounted root partition, whitout looking into fstab. I don't have much experience in systemd, and now wonder how this "smart" mount works. Ivan Boro
How to run 'vnstat' as user?
I'm having great difficulty in getting vnstat to run as user, like I had on my previous i386 computer. I have created the new 64bit eth0 binary file in ~/cron/lib/ so that it is backed up with my regular backups with obnam. Except it seems that only root or vnstat can run and own the ~/cron/lib/eth0, which is then unable to be backed up with obnam because its only a user backup and not root. How then can I run vnstat as a user please? Thanks Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian 8.0, fluxbox 1.3.7, emacs 24.5.1 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Can send but can't receive mail
On Monday 19 October 2015 13:16:46 Roberto Scattini wrote: > hi, > > some ISPs block outgoing traffic on port 25 (smtp) for domestic > connections, and give you credentials to use THEIR smtp server (to control > spam i think). > maybe this is your case... Yes, except that I meant POP3. As if the poor woman hadn't got enough problems. But it certainly looks as though the problem is to do with her supplier. Lisi > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 19 October 2015 12:28:07 Suzanne Edelman wrote: > > > When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk > > > folder, Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. > > > > That sounds more like a problem with the SMTP server and your mail > > account with the supplier than with KMail. What settings have you got? > > > > Are you subscribed to this list? > > > > Lisi
Re: Can send but can't receive mail
hi, some ISPs block outgoing traffic on port 25 (smtp) for domestic connections, and give you credentials to use THEIR smtp server (to control spam i think). maybe this is your case... On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 9:11 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 19 October 2015 12:28:07 Suzanne Edelman wrote: > > When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, > > Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. > > That sounds more like a problem with the SMTP server and your mail account > with the supplier than with KMail. What settings have you got? > > Are you subscribed to this list? > > Lisi > > -- Roberto Scattini
Correction: Re: Can send but can't receive mail
On Monday 19 October 2015 13:11:41 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 19 October 2015 12:28:07 Suzanne Edelman wrote: > > When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, > > Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. > > That sounds more like a problem with the SMTP OUCH!! correction: ***POP3*** . I wish that my fingers and brain would talk to each other a little more. :-( > server and your mail account > with the supplier than with KMail. What settings have you got? > > Are you subscribed to this list? > > Lisi
Re: Can send but can't receive mail
On Monday 19 October 2015 12:52:31 webdes...@creoconcept.com wrote: > Hi! > > So I'm trying to use Kmail and I can send mail, even though the mail i > send from the client doesn't show up in the Sent folder (but the mail I > send from the webmail does show up there). I just can't receive anything. > The inbox shows up empty. I don't know what to do about this because my > friend is using the same internet connection, Kmail configuration, etc as > I am and he's not having any problems with it... > > When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, > Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. > > Can you help? > Thanks > Suzanne Edelman > > PS: I've tried to use the debian reportbug thing but even in novice mode it > asks me things I don't know so it gave me this e-mail address to send an > e-mail to, that's why I'm doing this. That's three times we have received that in a very short time - your sending mechanism is working fine! And I meant POP3, of course. Lisi
Re: Can send but can't receive mail
On Monday 19 October 2015 12:28:07 Suzanne Edelman wrote: > When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, > Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. That sounds more like a problem with the SMTP server and your mail account with the supplier than with KMail. What settings have you got? Are you subscribed to this list? Lisi
Can send but can't receive mail
Hi! So I'm trying to use Kmail and I can send mail, even though the mail i send from the client doesn't show up in the Sent folder (but the mail I send from the webmail does show up there). I just can't receive anything. The inbox shows up empty. I don't know what to do about this because my friend is using the same internet connection, Kmail configuration, etc as I am and he's not having any problems with it... When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. Can you help? Thanks Suzanne Edelman PS: I've tried to use the debian reportbug thing but even in novice mode it asks me things I don't know so it gave me this e-mail address to send an e-mail to, that's why I'm doing this.
Re: whatsapp on Debian?
Oops! SOme post on top others and me post beneath ... Duh... On Monday 19 October 2015 11:21:11 Catalin Soare wrote: > There is BlueStacks, however I think it's only available for Windoze and > OSX, not sure if it will run on Linux. > Maybe you might have a chance to find something similar to it > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > > On Sunday 18 October 2015 13:55:06 foster2cbran...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > If you check out WhatsApp's website, or the wikipedia page: > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp The only supported operating > > > > systems > > > > > are on phones. Since it's a mobile phone app, I would guess there is no > > > > PC > > > > > port of this. > > > > > > > On Oct 18, 2015, at 12:36, Rodolfo Medina > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Andrew McGlashan writes: > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >>> On 17/10/2015 9:52 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > >>> I've found several how-to's about installing whatsapp on Linux and > > > >>> Debian but none of them was useful to me. Anyone out there who was > > > >>> successful with the issue and can report how to do? > > > >> > > > >> I'm not sure what you need, but the secure messaging part (when it is > > > >> done right) is being handled with code from the TextSecure project. > > > >> If that is what you are after, then you might want to consider > > > >> looking > > > >> at that project -- Android TextSecure / Red Phone iOS Signal is > > > >> the equivalent, but in one app. The Android apps are expected to > > > >> become one app too, but not sure when. > > > >> > > > >> https://whispersystems.org/ > > > >> > > > >> The apps on github: > > > >> https://github.com/whispersystems/ > > > > > > > > Thanks. But, as far as I understand, that's not for PCs, only for > > > > phones... What I want is instead to use whatsapp from my PC. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Rodolfo > > > > Open https://web.whatsapp.com/ > > Take a picture of the QR-code from out of WhatsApp on your phone and voilá > > WhatsApp in a (any) browser. But you still need the phone to do that. > > Don't > > know if that suits your need. > > Cheers > > Eike Hi y'all, Interesting faux pas on the Bluestacks web page: Trying to download using Debian it switches to a page with lots of fuss but only one wee information: "Your operating system is not supported" Hey guys! I can download anything with any OS and install it on my MAC or any MS-Windows OS I own if I choose to - NOT? The developers or sales people of Bluestack seem to live in a very, but very narrow world. So short answer is: Bluestack not available on Linux. Cheers Eike
Can send but can't receive mail
Hi! So I'm trying to use Kmail and I can send mail, even though the mail i send from the client doesn't show up in the Sent folder (but the mail I send from the webmail does show up there). I just can't receive anything. The inbox shows up empty. I don't know what to do about this because my friend is using the same internet connection, Kmail configuration, etc as I am and he's not having any problems with it... When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. Can you help? Thanks Suzanne Edelman PS: I've tried to use the debian reportbug thing but even in novice mode it asks me things I don't know so it gave me this e-mail address to send an e-mail to, that's why I'm doing this.
Can send but can't receive mail
Hi! So I'm trying to use Kmail and I can send mail, even though the mail i send from the client doesn't show up in the Sent folder (but the mail I send from the webmail does show up there). I just can't receive anything. The inbox shows up empty. I don't know what to do about this because my friend is using the same internet connection, Kmail configuration, etc as I am and he's not having any problems with it... When I set up the account it fetched all the e-mails in the Junk folder, Sent Mail folder, Archive, everything except the Inbox. Can you help? Thanks Suzanne Edelman PS: I've tried to use the debian reportbug thing but even in novice mode it asks me things I don't know so it gave me this e-mail address to send an e-mail to, that's why I'm doing this.
Re: whatsapp on Debian?
You can use a Android virtual device coming along with the Android development kit (see https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html). There you start WhatsApp. You receive the token for verifying by SMS width any mobile phone or data-stik. regards Maik Am 19.10.2015 um 10:21 schrieb Catalin Soare: > There is BlueStacks, however I think it's only available for Windoze and > OSX, not sure if it will run on Linux. > Maybe you might have a chance to find something similar to it > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > >> On Sunday 18 October 2015 13:55:06 foster2cbran...@gmail.com wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> If you check out WhatsApp's website, or the wikipedia page: >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp The only supported operating >> systems >>> are on phones. Since it's a mobile phone app, I would guess there is no >> PC >>> port of this. On Oct 18, 2015, at 12:36, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > >> On 17/10/2015 9:52 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> I've found several how-to's about installing whatsapp on Linux and >> Debian but none of them was useful to me. Anyone out there who was >> successful with the issue and can report how to do? > > I'm not sure what you need, but the secure messaging part (when it is > done right) is being handled with code from the TextSecure project. > If that is what you are after, then you might want to consider looking > at that project -- Android TextSecure / Red Phone iOS Signal is > the equivalent, but in one app. The Android apps are expected to > become one app too, but not sure when. > > https://whispersystems.org/ > > The apps on github: > https://github.com/whispersystems/ Thanks. But, as far as I understand, that's not for PCs, only for phones... What I want is instead to use whatsapp from my PC. Regards, Rodolfo >> >> Open https://web.whatsapp.com/ >> Take a picture of the QR-code from out of WhatsApp on your phone and voilá >> WhatsApp in a (any) browser. But you still need the phone to do that. Don't >> know if that suits your need. >> Cheers >> Eike >> >> -- >> Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE >> >> It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it >> is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It >> isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. >> -- Oxford University Press, Edpress New >> >> > >
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Monday 19 October 2015 09:44:56 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:57:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. > > As in a another post of mine where I mentioned that because the list is > open then it makes sense to CC a poster if they appear to be newbie and > you're not sure if they're subscribed. > > Also I've seen some posts where the OP has asked to be CC'd and > subsequent replies have been to the list only. > > It may seem like I'm contradicting myself, but I'm suggesting that > discretion is required. I have seen some threads where the OP has > requested help installing Debian and there's been about 10 replies with > requests for more information and the OP hasn't replied to any of them, > doesn't it make sense to CC the OP in that case, just to at least ensure > that no one is 'talking to a brick wall'? At the risk of also seeming to contradict myself, I (almost) agree. I was recently cc'ing someone who was having trouble with emails from the list (as were several other people). But that is quite different from replying personally to everyone who posts to the list, with a cc only to the list because ... Because what? the whole point of a mailing list is that it sends copies to everybody. But the one point where I disagree is the sending a personal copy to anyone who appears to be a newbie. I would want some sort of evidence that it was required. Replying to the list from a personal copy is actually not easy in some email clients. A newbie especially needs access to all the resources of the list. Not replying to requests for information is a common occurrence, that has as much to do with personality as with the destination of emails. And yes, people do sometimes forget to cc someone who has requested it. Kind people then sometimes forward the replies. Lisi
Re: Reinstall Stretch - Returns to Grub
control-alt-f7 gets you back to graphical mode. On Sun, 18 Oct 2015, ray wrote: Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 20:17:52 From: ray To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Reinstall Stretch - Returns to Grub Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:36:09 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org I have stretch installed on a Toshiba and I am not able to reinstall it. The first instance was installed using the BIOS mode CSM. I want to reinstall using UEFI. Now, I am using the a USB stick which Rufus was used to install stretch 64 DVD disk 1. I changed the BIOS from CSM to UEFI. After inserting the USB stick into the laptop, the Debian graphic page came up. I pressed tab to open a command line to input: video=VGA:1860x1080 This is to limit how small the font shows up in the following screens. I got a command line prompt: grub> I input the video command. No errors were reported. But I have not found out how to get out of the command line mode. After turning of the laptop and back on without the USB stick, it goes directly to the grub prompt. I put the stick back in and power cycle it, it comes back to the grub prompt. I repeated with rufus to see if the stick may have been changed. The newly written stick does not change anything, it goes directly to the grub prompt. How do I move this forward? Run the video command Continue the installation process from the command line. --
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 08:57:30AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. As in a another post of mine where I mentioned that because the list is open then it makes sense to CC a poster if they appear to be newbie and you're not sure if they're subscribed. Also I've seen some posts where the OP has asked to be CC'd and subsequent replies have been to the list only. It may seem like I'm contradicting myself, but I'm suggesting that discretion is required. I have seen some threads where the OP has requested help installing Debian and there's been about 10 replies with requests for more information and the OP hasn't replied to any of them, doesn't it make sense to CC the OP in that case, just to at least ensure that no one is 'talking to a brick wall'? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X
Re: whatsapp on Debian?
There is BlueStacks, however I think it's only available for Windoze and OSX, not sure if it will run on Linux. Maybe you might have a chance to find something similar to it On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Sunday 18 October 2015 13:55:06 foster2cbran...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello, > > > > If you check out WhatsApp's website, or the wikipedia page: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WhatsApp The only supported operating > systems > > are on phones. Since it's a mobile phone app, I would guess there is no > PC > > port of this. > > > On Oct 18, 2015, at 12:36, Rodolfo Medina > > > wrote: > > > > > > Andrew McGlashan writes: > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >>> On 17/10/2015 9:52 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > >>> I've found several how-to's about installing whatsapp on Linux and > > >>> Debian but none of them was useful to me. Anyone out there who was > > >>> successful with the issue and can report how to do? > > >> > > >> I'm not sure what you need, but the secure messaging part (when it is > > >> done right) is being handled with code from the TextSecure project. > > >> If that is what you are after, then you might want to consider looking > > >> at that project -- Android TextSecure / Red Phone iOS Signal is > > >> the equivalent, but in one app. The Android apps are expected to > > >> become one app too, but not sure when. > > >> > > >> https://whispersystems.org/ > > >> > > >> The apps on github: > > >> https://github.com/whispersystems/ > > > > > > Thanks. But, as far as I understand, that's not for PCs, only for > > > phones... What I want is instead to use whatsapp from my PC. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Rodolfo > > Open https://web.whatsapp.com/ > Take a picture of the QR-code from out of WhatsApp on your phone and voilá > WhatsApp in a (any) browser. But you still need the phone to do that. Don't > know if that suits your need. > Cheers > Eike > > -- > Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE > > It's is not, it isn't ain't, and it's it's, not its, if you mean it > is. If you don't, it's its. Then too, it's hers. It isn't her's. It > isn't our's either. It's ours, and likewise yours and theirs. > -- Oxford University Press, Edpress New > > -- Regards, *Catalin Soare *
Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented
Hi, Russ, Sorry for the delay in replying- was working yesterday! My model is Eee PC 1201N. It is fairly old now, but works well with Lubuntu, (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu) updated regularly I appreciate that you are probably looking for something newer, but this does all I need. HTH. Terence On 18 October 2015 at 09:05, wrote: > On Sun, October 18, 2015 2:23 am, Terence wrote: > > FWIW I run Debian without problems on my eeePC. > > Terrence, would you kindly tell me the model or series number? The ones > which I found in stock are "EeeBook X205". > > Russ > >
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Monday 19 October 2015 07:57:30 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should > be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this > CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. Hallelujah! Thank you, tomas. That went to the list only, with nary a sign of a copy to Brian. Lisi
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 10:41:38PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 21:17:46 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > You have to refine your filters a bit, but it's definitely possible. > > I know it is, but not with a simple three or four line procmail recipe > alone. [...] > > That's right. But you can catch most of it. > > Even if "most" is possible it is not good enough. > > A thread of more recent vintage is at > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg00012.html > > There is a technique (and an implementation of it) described which > ensures list mails get to a list folder and CCs are deleted. See what > you think. Yes, I'm aware of all that. And I never said the CoC is wrong or should be changed. I'm just advocating for dealing with those who fail this CoC (especially this little technical item) more gracefully. That's all. regards - -- tomás -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEUEARECAAYFAlYklFoACgkQBcgs9XrR2kawxACdF6eGPwGAm1jjH8MSmB883nlX b2sAmJtoDg2KS/TFhvKhnIFFn8z79So= =z8v8 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Monday 19 October 2015 08:28:16 Joe wrote: > On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:47:02 +1300 > > Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > tomas said: > > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky > > > > about *not* being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do > > > > his/her part and express this wish with the headers in use for > > > > this purpose. At least *before* scolding others <:*) > > > > > > Don't take me wrong. I think its reasonable. But I think also we > > > should try to be gentle about it (and try to "fix" as much as > > > possible on our sides). > > > > So you're saying that someone who is following the code should go out > > of their way to accomodate the ones who won't follow the code? > > A little way, not too far. > > It's not really a matter of getting one more unsolicited email in > this day and age, the point of this kind of list is to stand as an > archive, so that the various answers to the questions, and just as > importantly, the wanderings down the byways, remain to help others in > the future. Quite. And that will only work if people reply to list and do not break the threads. Lisi
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Monday 19 October 2015 07:47:53 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:47:02PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > tomas said: > > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky > > > > about *not* being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do > > > > his/her part and express this wish with the headers in use for this > > > > purpose. At least *before* scolding others <:*) > > [...] > > > So you're saying that someone who is following the code should go out > > of their way to accomodate the ones who won't follow the code? > > *sigh* > > I give up. Do whatever you want. Of course Chris will do what he wants, and not what you want. Why should he do anything else? But you are *still* not following the code. You have addressed that to Chris with a cc to the list. You seem to think that you should dictate how the list behaves and that the CoC is an aberration that OUGHT to be ignored. As I said to you, "you are sending them (these double copies) deliberately, and being a nuisance deliberately. Another word for that is trolling." Lisi
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Mon, 19 Oct 2015 16:47:02 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > tomas said: > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky > > > about *not* being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do > > > his/her part and express this wish with the headers in use for > > > this purpose. At least *before* scolding others <:*) > > > > Don't take me wrong. I think its reasonable. But I think also we > > should try to be gentle about it (and try to "fix" as much as > > possible on our sides). > > So you're saying that someone who is following the code should go out > of their way to accomodate the ones who won't follow the code? > A little way, not too far. It's not really a matter of getting one more unsolicited email in this day and age, the point of this kind of list is to stand as an archive, so that the various answers to the questions, and just as importantly, the wanderings down the byways, remain to help others in the future. -- Joe
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
On Sunday 18 October 2015 20:21:49 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:10:56PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 18 October 2015 19:55:58 Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 18 Oct 2015 at 17:44:55 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:55:10PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > [...] > > > tomas said: > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about > > *not* being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do his/her part and > > express this wish with the headers in use for this purpose. At least > > *before* scolding others <:*) > > > > Well, I am picky about not being cc'ed. I have tried to be polite. I > > have asked tomas, who thinks I should do something in my headers, how to > > do it. He tells me I can't. So now I feel free to "scold others". > > Well, be fair :-) I said you can in most of the cases. No you didn't. You said that I should be polite and "express this wish with the headers in use for this purpose", but you have no idea how this can be done. See above. Lisi
Re: Mailing lists, CC, followup-to, netiquette and all the rest [was: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 04:47:02PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:21:49PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > tomas said: > > > Yes, you are right about the CoC part. Still, if someone is picky about > > > *not* > > > being cc'ed, I'd consider it polite to at least do his/her part and > > > express > > > this wish with the headers in use for this purpose. At least *before* > > > scolding > > > others <:*) [...] > So you're saying that someone who is following the code should go out > of their way to accomodate the ones who won't follow the code? *sigh* I give up. Do whatever you want. - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlYkkhkACgkQBcgs9XrR2kZiuACfaw5Orylpi4kMM9V5R4HU/srp SLUAni7p9umRSJgIH5NlLhS0GQ3PGnUV =Dqk6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: make system boot straight to browser connection
On Monday 19 October 2015 04:55:46 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 05:21:53PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Richard Owlett (rowl...@cloud85.net): > > > I have 2 machines. > > > One is Squeeze with Gnome2 DE. > > > One is Jessie with Mate DE. > > > Desired user name to be "myexperiments" having a minimal set [TBD] > > > privileges. > > > Power on yields operating system. > > > > Ok, that's clarified, I think, what you mean by DE. You want (I'm > > guessing) a machine to come up with its full Desktop Environment as if > > the user "myexperiments" had sat at the console and typed in their > > username and password. > > > > I have no idea why you wrote "Power on yields operating system." > > (Unless you meant No BIOS Password and No Grub Password, so that > > linux itself boots when you power up.) > > And that's the trivial part, the non trivial part is locking down the > browser and DE so that the rest of the system is inaccessible by the end > user. > > I would search google about setting up a kiosk system. I know that various people have suggested that Richard may mean a kiosk system, but how does the above quotation from him mean that? Lisi
Re: hola buenas tardes necesito ayuda con debian 8
On Monday 19 October 2015 06:09:06 Jabyr Hurtado wrote: > hola buenas noches me llamo jabyr y so de antofagasta chile bueno soy > usuario nuevo en debian y sabes que desde que lo instale e tenido problemas > y me di cuenta que se debe a problemas con el kernel o nucleo de linux con > lo poco y nada que se de debian e tratado de instalar programas me da error > inicio como usuario root también utilizo el comando apt-get error, aptitude > arror instalo los repositorios error todo me sale error a la hora de > instalar algo lo unico que quiero es poder instalar unetbootin y reinstalar > debian desde un nuevo iso como lo hago o que solucion me dan gracias This is the English speaking list. You might prefer: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/ Lisi
gnome-power-manager compatible with systemd?
I have installed a standard Debian Jessie (with systemd and GNOME3) on my older T500 (dual core). For some reasons, the *power statistics monitor* is not installed by default. Is there a reason for that? Is it save to install gnome-power-manager (only to get the monitor) or does it may cause an conflict with the power management (if any) of systemd? If have installed gnome-power-manager now without warnings. After that, the T500 doesn't shutdown completely. I had not have the time to debug this on the weekend, but as far as I remember, this wasn't the case before the installation of gnome-power-manager.
