Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread Jimmy Johnson

On 12/08/2015 02:00 PM, Francis Gerund wrote:

Hello!

I just installed Debian 8.2, 64-bit, Gnome desktop, using the
netinst.iso.  Used Synaptic to install Gufw (and ufw as dependency).Â
Ufw works fine.

But gufw does not show in the application menu or in the favories menu
of Gnome.  The only way to run it seems to be in Gnome terminal
(non-login):

        gksudo /usr/bin/gufw


I use 'gksu gufw' it works for me as user in the run command, console 
and menu.


regards,
Jimmy
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Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2  - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda10
Registered Linux User #380263


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Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread John Hasler
Chris Bannister writes:
> I reckon bottom posting is worse than top posting if the poster doesn't
> trim anything.

I agree.  When I open a message and see only quoted material I just
delete it and go on.  I don't understand what's so damn difficult about
deleting a few lines.
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA



Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 12:53:09PM +0800, Bret Busby wrote:
> 
> "Bottom posting" posting after the message to which the reply is made,
> so that people who are reading the reply, if they are worth anything,
> will read the message to which the reply is made, before reading the
> reply that is made, so that the reply is read in the context of the
> message to which the reply is made. This message is best, when the
> reply is made to the whole of the message, rather than individual
> replies to individual points within the message to which the reply is
> made.

I reckon bottom posting is worse than top posting if the poster doesn't
trim anything.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X



Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 December 2015 23:33:52 Chris Bannister wrote:
> [PLease don't top post.]
>
> On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:20:38PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
> > I am using the Gnome 3 "classic" desktop.
> >
> > When I push the mouser pointer up into the hot-spot in the upper left
> > corner of the screen, a (sort of) oval pops up containing a magnifying
> > glass icon and the words "Type to search . . . ".  If I type in "gufw",
> > it just bluntly says "No results.".
> >
> > But if I do ALT-F2, a window pops up saying "Enter a command".  If I type
> > in "gufw" there, Gufw starts up, and seems to work.
> >
> > So, yes - it does start that way.
> >
> > Now, as to:
> > "What's wrong with just using a launcher anyway, if it comes up that
> > way?", maybe I am just autistic.  It just bothers me when things don't
> > work CORRECTLY.
>
> Me too, that's why I stopped using Gnome. (Disclaimer: Maybe things have
> changed since then.)

Why is using the menu the correct way?

Lisi



Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister

[PLease don't top post.]

On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 09:20:38PM -0500, Francis Gerund wrote:
> I am using the Gnome 3 "classic" desktop.
> 
> When I push the mouser pointer up into the hot-spot in the upper left
> corner of the screen, a (sort of) oval pops up containing a magnifying
> glass icon and the words "Type to search . . . ".  If I type in "gufw", it
> just bluntly says "No results.".
> 
> But if I do ALT-F2, a window pops up saying "Enter a command".  If I type
> in "gufw" there, Gufw starts up, and seems to work.
> 
> So, yes - it does start that way.
> 
> Now, as to:
> "What's wrong with just using a launcher anyway, if it comes up that way?",
> maybe I am just autistic.  It just bothers me when things don't work
> CORRECTLY.

Me too, that's why I stopped using Gnome. (Disclaimer: Maybe things have changed
since then.)

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X



Re: KDE "libplasmacomponentsplugin.so is not a valid Qt plugin" after crossgrade?

2015-12-11 Thread Jimmy Johnson

On 12/09/2015 04:17 AM, Christian Brunotte wrote:

Hello

I've just crossgraded my desktop computer from i386 to amd64, using the wiki
recipe and got everything working so far.

The only problem:
On the lower right corner I have to white/red "do not enter road sign icons"
where "Notifications", "System Tray" and the icons of minimized music players
etc used to be. Also when clicking on the "bean" icon and "+ Add Widgets",
I get a completely empty selection.

-christian-



I don't know..but maybe right-click in the system-tray and choose the 
system-tray-settings and see if you can find something there!?!


regards,
Jimmy
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Registered Linux User #380263



debmirror hangs

2015-12-11 Thread sp113438
Hello,

Since a few days I have a problem with debmirror.
It hangs with 100% CPU use for one core.

 
the output:

receiving incremental file list
./
project/trace/
project/trace/ftp-master.debian.org
104 100%  101.56kB/s0:00:00 (xfr#1, to-chk=2/6)
project/trace/ftp.nl.debian.org
291 100%  284.18kB/s0:00:00 (xfr#2, to-chk=1/6)
project/trace/klecker.debian.org
272 100%4.43kB/s0:00:00 (xfr#3, to-chk=0/6)

sent 203 bytes  received 2,355 bytes  5,116.00 bytes/sec
total size is 667  speedup is 0.26
Getting meta files ...
[  0%] Getting: dists/oldstable/Release  ##
[  0%] Getting: dists/oldstable/Release.gpg  #
gpgv: Signature made Sat 05 Sep 2015 01:47:40 PM CEST using RSA key ID
46925553 gpgv: Good signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing
Key (7.0/wheezy) " gpgv: Signature made Sat 05
Sep 2015 01:47:40 PM CEST using RSA key ID 2B90D010 gpgv: Good
signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie)
" gpgv: Signature made Sat 05 Sep 2015 01:47:55
PM CEST using RSA key ID 65FFB764 gpgv: Good signature from "Wheezy
Stable Release Key " [  0%] Getting:
dists/stable/Release ## [  0%] Getting:
dists/stable/Release.gpg # gpgv: Signature made Sat 05 Sep 2015
11:43:56 AM CEST using RSA key ID 46925553 gpgv: Good signature from
"Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy)
" gpgv: Signature made Sat 05 Sep 2015 11:43:56
AM CEST using RSA key ID 2B90D010 gpgv: Good signature from "Debian
Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie) " gpgv:
Signature made Sat 05 Sep 2015 11:52:13 AM CEST using RSA key ID
518E17E1 gpgv: Good signature from "Jessie Stable Release Key
" [  0%] Getting:
dists/testing/Release## [  0%] Getting:
dists/testing/Release.gpg# gpgv: Signature made Fri 11 Dec 2015
10:05:04 PM CET using RSA key ID 46925553 gpgv: Good signature from
"Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy)
" gpgv: Signature made Fri 11 Dec 2015 10:05:04
PM CET using RSA key ID 2B90D010 gpgv: Good signature from "Debian
Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie) " [  0%]
Getting: dists/unstable/Release   ### [  0%] Getting:
dists/unstable/Release.gpg   # gpgv: Signature made Fri 11 Dec 2015
10:07:34 PM CET using RSA key ID 46925553 gpgv: Good signature from
"Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy)
" gpgv: Signature made Fri 11 Dec 2015 10:07:34
PM CET using RSA key ID 2B90D010 gpgv: Good signature from "Debian
Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie) " [  0%]
Getting: dists/sid/main/binary-amd64/Packages.diff/Index  #

and then it hangs



Re: KDE "libplasmacomponentsplugin.so is not a valid Qt plugin" after crossgrade?

2015-12-11 Thread Brian
On Fri 11 Dec 2015 at 00:09:41 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote:

> On Thu, 10 Dec 2015, Brian wrote:
> 
> >>>You may, but I hope posters ignore your advice. They do not infringe
> >>>what Listmaster allows.
> >>
> >>Huh? Clarification pls.
> >
> >I thought it was rather clear, but
> 
> It would have been quite clear had you seized on the obvious echo of Milton,
> and posted instead
> 
> "They also do not infringe who only post what the Listmaster allows."

Having posted "o’er Land and Ocean" I thought I had done my bit.



Re: apt-get error messages

2015-12-11 Thread Lee Fuller
At face value I'd assumed Tony was reflecting on the freedom a user has to
make something work how they want.

I didn't consider it as demanding, because unless he had offered to create
the features or rally the developers himself or point the OP to another
list, and assuming Tony wasn't overwhelmed by mutual consensus, if you want
something, surely nobody owes it to anyone except themselves to write it?

With sincerety, MHO.

-
- Lee Fuller
On 11 Dec 2015 4:27 p.m., "kamaraju kusumanchi" 
wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Tony van der Hoff 
> wrote:
> > On 08/12/15 13:41, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >
> >> *groan* *sigh* ... I wonder why there's not a 'dpkg
> >> --print-architectures' which prints out *all* the architectures it knows
> >> about.
> >>
> > Because you haven't written it yet?
> >
>
> IMHO this is an inappropriate response. Not all users can be expected
> to write software and submit patches. It is one thing to ask them to
> file a wishlist bug, it is another thing to demand a patch from every
> user who suggests a way to improve user experience.
>
> --
> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog
>
>


Re: KDE "libplasmacomponentsplugin.so is not a valid Qt plugin" after crossgrade?

2015-12-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 11 December 2015 09:49:55 Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > The rules setting boundaries on what is posted here are not set by users
> > but from On High. Grumbles are probably unlikely to alter the age-old
> > tradition of posting information relevant to a problem.
>
> Most lists discourage posts of the length in question.

Yes.  But this one, except in the persons of you and Felix, doesn't.  And the 
archives are more complete if people do post inline.

Many lists do not have public archives.

Lisi



Re: apt-get error messages

2015-12-11 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Tony van der Hoff  wrote:
> On 08/12/15 13:41, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
>> *groan* *sigh* ... I wonder why there's not a 'dpkg
>> --print-architectures' which prints out *all* the architectures it knows
>> about.
>>
> Because you haven't written it yet?
>

IMHO this is an inappropriate response. Not all users can be expected
to write software and submit patches. It is one thing to ask them to
file a wishlist bug, it is another thing to demand a patch from every
user who suggests a way to improve user experience.

-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog



Re: gufw problem

2015-12-11 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 10 December 2015 19:43:00 Francis Gerund wrote:
> I was using gmail, with it's built-in interface.  Although the default
> reply setting was set to "reply all", for some reason it automatically adds
> the email address of the last person to reply to a thread, in addition to
> ALSO replying to the whole list.
>
> If I don't remember to manually edit the "send to" address line, someone
> gets an extra treat in their inbox.

One of the many "joys" - and irritants - of the Gmail interface.  You are 
using the only way I have come across of replying to list only from Gmail.

I solve it by using an email client.   And still manage to make mistakes!!

Lisi



Re: apt-get error messages

2015-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:47:19PM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 08/12/15 13:41, Chris Bannister wrote:
> 
> >*groan* *sigh* ... I wonder why there's not a 'dpkg
> >--print-architectures' which prints out *all* the architectures it knows
> >about.
> >
> Because you haven't written it yet?

No.

-- 
"If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people
who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the 
oppressing." --- Malcolm X



Re: INSTALL DEBIAN TOUCH ON SMARTPHONE WITH ANDROID SYSTEM

2015-12-11 Thread Darac Marjal

On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:58:50AM +0100, SERGIO TAFUR PINA wrote:



Hello, I wear contact you to tell me how I can install Debian in my Smartphone
Touch and use it as a phone to make and receive calls, couriers also, sms etc.
If this is possible, tell me how it is carried out.
I am passionate about Linux and I have already proved I had desktop pc and the
truth that I really like.
I want to try it on my Smartphone Sony Xperia E3.
Thank you and hope your reply.


Generally speaking, no Debian doesn't support smartphones, but if you're 
foolhardy enough to give it a try, read on.


First of all, check if Debian is compatible with your phone. By and 
large, hardware compatibility is determined by the Kernel; if the 
vanilla linux kernel supports your hardware, then you're in luck. If you 
need a custom kernel, then that may be possible. There are plenty of 
howtos for how to recompile a kernel for debian.


Next up, you probably want a graphical interface. Check that X supports 
your display. Note that, while both Android and Debian use the Linux 
kernel, almost everything else above that is different. Android uses 
SurfaceFlinger (I believe) while Debian uses Xorg. While these are 
incompatible, it's possible that someone has written a driver for both.


So, let's imagine that you're fortunate enough to have hardware that's 
supported. How do you get Debian on there? Typically, Android devices 
have their own bootloader which will load the kernel and the inird 
before starting the system. Again, there are documents on the web that 
detail the Android boot sequence; expect to get familiar with them.


But how to create the operating system on the phone? Clearly you can't 
put a CD into a smartphone and run Debian-Installer (Well, you might be 
able to plug a USB-OTG cable, but the phone certainly won't boot from 
CD). Probably the easiest method is to follow the lead of other "ROM" 
developers: Create the operating system using debootstrap (or similar), 
then create a flashable zip from that and install using a recovery 
partition (TWRP, ClockworkMod or similar).


Finally, If you do get things up and running, expect things to look 
really weird. As far as I know, there aren't many touch-optimized 
applications in Debian. You might, for example, find that X takes your 
high-resolution screen literally, and presents you with TEENY TINY 
controls. Or maybe it manages to get the DPI correctly, but then you 
find that with all the chrome of a normal desktop (panels, window 
borders etc), you can't actually display anything useful.


But don't let any of that discourage you! If you fancy getting Debian 
working on your phone, then I'm sure Debian would love to accept any 
packages, patches etc that you develop in the course of your work! :D



SERGIO TAFUR PINA
a greeting
E-mail: sergio.ta...@live.com


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INSTALL DEBIAN TOUCH ON SMARTPHONE WITH ANDROID SYSTEM

2015-12-11 Thread SERGIO TAFUR PINA


Hello, I wear contact you to tell me how I can install Debian in my Smartphone 
Touch and use it as a phone to make and receive calls, couriers also, sms etc.
If this is possible, tell me how it is carried out.
I am passionate about Linux and I have already proved I had desktop pc and the 
truth that I really like.
I want to try it on my Smartphone Sony Xperia E3.
Thank you and hope your reply.
SERGIO TAFUR PINA
a greeting
E-mail: sergio.ta...@live.com


















































































































































































Re: Apt Archives Usage

2015-12-11 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 10 December 2015 17:29:06 David Baron wrote:
> Has this changed in latest-and-greatest from Sid??
> 
> I symlink /var/cache/apt off to another drive because the partition the
> install gave me is too small. /var has started filling up again on apt-get.

Seemed to have solved itself.



Re: Problem with systemd and cryptsetup - how to solve it the systemd way?

2015-12-11 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 02:38:02PM +0100, Anders Andersson wrote:
>  /var/run/systemd/generator/systemd-cryptsetup@crypt.service 

Do you know whether that is persistent? I used the generator to create
the service file, but I then put the service file into /etc/systemd/user
and removed the crypttab file altogether.
 
> After this I try starting the new device:
> root@jessie:~# systemctl start dev-mapper-crypt.device
> Please enter passphrase for disk VBOX_HARDDISK (crypt)! 
>... here it stalls for what is likely 90 seconds ...
> Job for dev-mapper-crypt.device timed out.
> root@jessie:~#

Did you type the passphrase when prompted? I find the prompt a little
awkward, as it seems to be to every PTY and TTY by default.

> Ok. It kinda failed but not really. The device has been unlocked and
> exists in /dev/mapper/ as expected.

^ This would imply that you did type the passphrase correctly, but

> systemd-ask-password-console.service stop-sigterm timed out. Killing.

^ this would suggest that the passphrase-issuing didn't complete.

Is it possible you left it open from your manual playing when you tried
starting the systemd job, by accident, and systemd had not created the
/dev/mapper/crypt device?

> My question is thus: How am I supposed to solve this the "systemd
> way"? I want to be able to start an encrypted block device using a
> normal systemd service/device so that I can later have systemd units
> depend on this.

So in theory what you've done should work for the first part, and you
would then need to create .mount units that depend on the crypt device,
like this (examples cribbed from my system doing exactly this):

> [Unit]
> RequiresOverridable=systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-docker\x2dfront.service
> After=systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-docker\x2dfront.service
> [Mount]
> What=/dev/mapper/docker-front
> Where=/var/lib/docker
> Type=btrfs
> Options=defaults,noauto

and then you would manually start *this unit* to automatically trigger
the dependency and systemd would prompt you for the passphrase:

> # systemctl start /var/lib/docker
> Please enter passphrase for disk qusp_vg-docker--back (docker-front) on 
> /var/lib/docker! ***

(two points: one, my real passphrase is more than 3 characters. Second,
notice that I can use the FS path as the unit name - systemd can recognise
it and convert it into the right name var-lib-docker.mount. I find this more
convenient than remembering systemd's esoteric escaping rules.)

> # systemctl status /var/lib/docker
> ● var-lib-docker.mount - /var/lib/docker
>Loaded: loaded (/etc/fstab)
>Active: active (mounted) since Fri 2015-12-11 09:57:43 GMT; 9s ago
> Where: /var/lib/docker
>  What: /dev/mapper/docker-front
>   Process: 21422 ExecMount=/bin/mount -n /dev/mapper/docker-front 
> /var/lib/docker -t btrfs -o defaults,noauto (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

> # systemctl status 'systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-docker\x2dfront.service'
> ● systemd-fsck@dev-mapper-docker\x2dfront.service - File System Check on 
> /dev/mapper/docker-front
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/systemd-fsck@.service; static)
>Active: active (exited) since Fri 2015-12-11 09:57:43 GMT; 1min 2s ago
>   Process: 21416 ExecStart=/lib/systemd/systemd-fsck %f (code=exited, 
> status=0/SUCCESS)
>  Main PID: 21416 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)

I've only just started doing this myself. I have additional dependencies set up
so my docker daemon depends on the mount (and isn't started on boot), but I 
haven't
gone further with more mounts etc. yet.

(notice that my crypttab service file has a really awkward name. That's because
I used a dash in the source and destination device names: docker-back, 
docker-front,
which systemd escapes. It's a bit unwieldy on the shell, I have to quote every 
use
so the shell doesn't expand \x2d itself, so I'd recommend avoiding using dashes 
in
device names with systemd.)


-- 
Jonathan Dowland



Re: KDE "libplasmacomponentsplugin.so is not a valid Qt plugin" after crossgrade?

2015-12-11 Thread tomas
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 02:49:55AM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:

[...]

> Most lists discourage posts of the length in question. 
> 
> > 
> > You didn't say how large this "Massive snip" was.
> 
> All it takes is looking at the quoted message. You can do this as easily
> as I.

OK. I did. It's 16K (headers and all). The sum of your messages in this
thread amounts to 7.8K -- just trying to impose your opinion. I think
that's enough: your opinion is now clear enough, some others disagree.

(I, for one. I've solved many a problem by finding relevant mailing
list archive entries -- yes, often older than 1 year. Sometimes by
an indexed error message -- which wouldn't have been indexed in
pastebin [genuine question: does a pastebin entry have a back-link
to the relevant discussion?]. No, I strongly disagree with you).

Sure, there must be a limit for included stuff. For me, it's *far*
beyond 16K.

Somewhere between 100K and 1M perhaps.

regards
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Re: KDE "libplasmacomponentsplugin.so is not a valid Qt plugin" after crossgrade?

2015-12-11 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 04:10:25PM -0500, Neal P. Murphy wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 12:53:33 -0700
> Charlie Kravetz  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 11:33:07 -0700
> > Bob Holtzman  wrote:
> > 
> > >On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 07:50:28PM +, Brian wrote:
> > >> On Wed 09 Dec 2015 at 11:19:00 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > >>   
> > >> > On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 01:17:25PM +0100, Christian Brunotte wrote:  
> > >> > > 
> > >> > `>   $ ldd 
> > >> > /usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/components/libplasmacomponentsplugin.so
> > >> > > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffc4c741000)
> > >> > > libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 
> > >> > > (0x7ff2e839d000)
> > >> > > libQtDeclarative.so.4 => 
> > >> > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtDeclarative.so.4 (0x7ff2e7de5000) 
> > >> > >  
> > >> > 
> > >> > ..Massive snip   
> > >> > > 
> > >> > > I know that crossgrading is totally unsupported etc. pp. but maybe 
> > >> > > someone
> > >> > > with KDE developing skills could give me a hint what could cause 
> > >> > > this error :)  
> > >> > 
> > >> > In the future, may I *strongly* suggest the use of a pastebin for posts
> > >> > this massive?  
> > >> 
> > >> You may, but I hope posters ignore your advice. They do not infringe what
> > >> Listmaster allows.  
> > >
> > >Huh? Clarification pls.
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > The few individuals who think they run the list have set the rules to
> > make sure nothing is ever posted to pastebin. 
> > 
> 
> Primarily because what is available on pastebin today may not be there in the 
> future, thus rendering messages that reference it somewhat less than useful.

The duration can be specified, although it can't be more than 1(?) year..  



Re: KDE "libplasmacomponentsplugin.so is not a valid Qt plugin" after crossgrade?

2015-12-11 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 06:51:17PM +, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 10 Dec 2015 at 11:33:07 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 07:50:28PM +, Brian wrote:
> > > On Wed 09 Dec 2015 at 11:19:00 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 01:17:25PM +0100, Christian Brunotte wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > `>   $ ldd 
> > > > /usr/lib/kde4/imports/org/kde/plasma/components/libplasmacomponentsplugin.so
> > > > > linux-vdso.so.1 (0x7ffc4c741000)
> > > > > libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtCore.so.4 
> > > > > (0x7ff2e839d000)
> > > > > libQtDeclarative.so.4 => 
> > > > > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQtDeclarative.so.4 (0x7ff2e7de5000)
> > > > 
> > > > ..Massive snip 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I know that crossgrading is totally unsupported etc. pp. but maybe 
> > > > > someone
> > > > > with KDE developing skills could give me a hint what could cause this 
> > > > > error :)
> > > > 
> > > > In the future, may I *strongly* suggest the use of a pastebin for posts
> > > > this massive?
> > > 
> > > You may, but I hope posters ignore your advice. They do not infringe what
> > > Listmaster allows.
> > 
> > Huh? Clarification pls.
> 
> I thought it was rather clear, but
> 
> You can "*strongly* suggest" whatever you want; it is your perogative.
> It doesn't imply anyone should take account of the suggestion.
> 
> The rules setting boundaries on what is posted here are not set by users
> but from On High. Grumbles are probably unlikely to alter the age-old
> tradition of posting information relevant to a problem.

Most lists discourage posts of the length in question. 

> 
> You didn't say how large this "Massive snip" was.

All it takes is looking at the quoted message. You can do this as easily
as I.