Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

[tomas]

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On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 03:20:22PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Me wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > In GNOME Shell, when I click on the "Eject" option in the notification
> > bar to unmount my USB key, it unmounts correctly and then immediately
> > mounts again, as if I just plugged it.
> > 
> > It happens only with the Kingston DataTraveler I own. I've tried on
> > several desktops, and it seems to happen only with GNOME Shell. MATE,
> > XFCE, and Ubuntu with Unity don't have the issue. And when I unmount
> > it with Nautilus, it stays unmounted, as it should.
> > 
> > This bug is annoying, as I can't be sure that nothing is writing on my
> > key before unplugging it.
> > 
> > I want to find the cause, and if necessary write a bug report. I need
> > advice : should I report the bug to Debian or GNOME ? What additional
> > information could I provide that could help ?
> > 
> > Obviously, if someone has a way to fix this without reporting a bug, I
> > would also be happy to read it.
> 
> You shouldn't have to "eject" it all.  Just plug it in and when done,
> pull it out. The system should mount and unmount it automatically. We're
> not talking Windows here.

This seems like *very* bad advice. The system keeps a cache[1] of the data
in the USB and flushes this cache only from time to time (that's what
makes accesses to the otherwise slow USB pretty fast).

Unmounting (however you achieve it -- be it from the command line or from
some desktop-y GUI, which labels this operation as "ejecting" or "safe
removal" or other more confusing terms) flushes (i.e. writes back) all the
"dirty" data in the cache and prevents more accesses to the device.

Only then can you remove it without fear of losing data.

Otherwise you either lose the last writes to the device (if you're
lucky and/or have a civilised file system on your stick, like ext3/ext4),
or the whole file system is thrashed (more likely when you have an
uncivilised filesystem, like some variation of FAT).

Take care

[1] actually it's more than one cache. It's caches all the way down!

- -- tomás
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Re: Trouble mounting nfs share

[Steve Matzura]

On Sun, 7 Feb 2016 17:27:11 -0500, Carlos Kosloff
 wrote:

>There was a package installed liblockfile1, which was causing grief.

I wonder if this might be my problem as well, but I don't find any
such package installed on my system.

Re: Aide pour mise à jour de Icedove sous une vieille distro

[Bernard]

Bernard Schoenacker wrote:

Le Mon, 08 Feb 2016 00:34:40 +0100,
Bernard  a écrit :

  

thierry.jeanmou...@cegetel.net wrote:

Cà peut aussi être un problème hardware. Il faut voir ce que
supporte ton processeur.  Si tu n'as pas le support sse2, par
exemple, les dernières versions du plugin flashplayer ne marcheront
pas... J'ai eu le cas avec un vieux PC de 2003, sur lequel Squeeze
tournait pourtant sans pb... Et là, pas d'autre choix que de
changer de matos malheureusement
 

J'ai un Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 1.86GHz


Quant au support sse2 :

# find / | grep sse2

   /usr/lib/sse2/libspeex.so.1.5.0
   /usr/lib/sse2/libspeexdsp.so.1
   /usr/lib/sse2/libspeexdsp.so.1.5.0
   /usr/lib/sse2/libspeex.so.1


que donne :
cat /proc/cpuinfo > out-info-cpu.txt

et mettre le fichier en pièce jointe
  
En pièce jointe ?  De toutes façons, s'agissant d'un fichier texte, il 
s'afficherait tout de même dans le message (tout au moins pour la 
plupart des logiciels de mails en leur paramètrage par défaut). Voir à 
la fin de ma réponse.

comme c'est un cpu 64 bits prière de passer à stretch et faire une
réinstall complète
  
Un cpu 64 bits ?  Je l'ignorais absolument !  Ce n'était pas précisé 
dans la facturation que m'avait envoyé l'assembleur, en date du 8 
décembre 2006. De toutes façons, à l'époque, je doute qu'il ait beaucoup 
existé d' OS capables de tourner en 64 bits, et je suppose que les 
distros récentes d'architecture 64 bits sont également capables de 
tourner en 32 bits ?  Non ?


Enfin, il est bon de savoir qu'au cas où je devrai me résoudre à 
installer une version plus récente, je pourrai en choisir une en 64 bits.



grrr :
http://video.rmll.info/videos/le-guide-du-connard-du-logiciel-libre/
Pour visualiser cela, j'ai encore dû aller sur mon portable équipé de 
Ubuntu 14.04. Mais c'était intéressant, et çà illustre bien, de façon 
humoristique, un contexte dont la plupart d'entre nous sont assez familiers


Cordialement,

Bernard
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6300  @ 1.86GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1869.922
cache size  : 2048 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 0
initial apicid  : 0
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc 
arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips: 3743.29
clflush size: 64
power management:

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 6
model   : 15
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU  6300  @ 1.86GHz
stepping: 6
cpu MHz : 1869.922
cache size  : 2048 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 1
cpu cores   : 2
apicid  : 1
initial apicid  : 1
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 10
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe lm constant_tsc 
arch_perfmon pebs bts pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr lahf_lm
bogomips: 3739.97
clflush size: 64
power management:

Re: jigdo-lite for windows (from debian-cd list)

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

we should move this to debian-user mailing list, as it is more
about installing from the MS-Windows world and not about the
installation ISOs themselves.

Please send your further replies to
  debian-user@lists.debian.org

The start of the thread is (in french) at
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2016/02/msg00010.html
and switches to english at
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2016/02/msg00012.html
I demonstrated a jigdo-lite download on Debian in
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2016/02/msg00014.html

Florent Larose  wrote on debian-cd:
> You said : " Debian mirror [http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/]:;, i am french
> and i want a french or original english version, must i change the mirror
> URL ?

I assume you will get proposed some other mirror address.

This does not influence the content of the DVD images you get.
"mirror" means "identical copy" here. They exist just to distribute
the workload over many different network parts.

The installation procedure will ask you for your preferred language.
(I choose US english because it matches best my keyboard and i do
 not have to translate german texts back to enlish in order to grasp
 their meaning.)


Maybe the people here on debian-user can give you more specific
advise if you tell us what kind of computer you want to equip with
Debian. Shall it still offer the opportunity to start MS-Windows ?
Do you need to perform special tasks or is it just to explore it ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Jean Bernon]

Ce fil de discussion est de plus en plus hors sujet. Après les handicapés, 
maintenant les délires sur la théorie du genre à l'école. Est-ce qu'on pourrait 
s'en tenir à Debian et à la promotion des logiciels libres et laisser le reste 
à l'appréciation de chacun. Et descendons aussi des nuages. Ayant été 
fonctionnaire pendant 40 ans, je sais avec certitude que plus de 90% de 
l'administration publique utilise Word. Donc quel sens y a-t-il à ajouter que 
le document est sous Word, sauf à être encore plus lourd ? 

- Mail original -

> De: "Philippe Gras" 
> À: "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Debian"
> 
> Envoyé: Lundi 8 Février 2016 12:05:43
> Objet: Re: Belkacem et microsoft

> Le 3 févr. 2016 à 11:08, Christophe De Natale
>  a écrit :

> > Bonjour la liste,
> >
> > Désolé d'avance pour le *hs* / titre
> > --
> > Christophe De Natale 
> >
> Petite info au passage :
> http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573

> Le ministère de Belkacem utilise Word ;-)

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[jdd]

Le 08/02/2016 12:05, Philippe Gras a écrit :


Le 3 févr. 2016 à 11:08, Christophe De Natale  a 
écrit :


Bonjour la liste,

Désolé d'avance pour le *hs* / titre
--
Christophe De Natale 


Petite info au passage :
http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573

Le ministère de Belkacem utilise Word ;-)


je ne sais pas si elle utilise Word, mis ce site est assez infect

"l’égalité entre les filles et les garçons, l’égalité entre les femmes 
et les hommes ». En d’autres termes, en expliquant la théorie du genre à 
des enfants de CP"


et donc plaider pour l'égalité entre les hommes et les femmes c'est 
défendre une "théorie du genre"


bon on s'éloigne de Debian, mais tous les exemples ne sont pas bons à citer

jdd

Re: Squid3 doesn't listen on any port on Jessie

[Willy Ted MANGA]

Hi,

Le 08/02/2016 12:28, Ron Leach a écrit :
> On 08/02/2016 10:20, Willy Ted MANGA wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I just upgraded my server from wheezy to jessie and my squid3 doesn't
>> listen to any port . :-\
>>
>[...] 
> 
> We just had a similar problem with a new squid 3 install on another
> distro.  (For historical reasons we have one old server running Fedora,
> just updated to Fedora 23 "server" configuration.)
> 
> In our case, squid was 'listening' fine on 3128 - but it wasn't
> 'hearing' anything; the firewall was completely locked down in that last
> Fedora update (only port 22 was open, if I recall).  I mention this
> because, though we don't use Jessie, that Fedora update uses systemd,
> and SElinux(?) and this very restrictive firewall configuration, out of
> the box.  Even installing squid did *not* open the port 3128; the
> firewall had to adjusted by hand, and then squid worked fine.

In my case the firewall rules are OK. Squid do not listen at all.


> As I say, we're still on Wheezy with our remaining systems, so I don't
> know whether Jessie is closer to that Fedora arrangement, or not, but
> thought this experience might help.

Jessie comes with systemd by default.


> Have you also checked the squid/jessie configuration notes?  In moving
> to systemd on our fedora system, some of the 'conf' files moved from
> /etc/... to /usr/... and this seemed to be a consequence of systemd (in
> Fedora's case), but I don't know what happens in Jessie.  Just to check
> whether the conf files you are changing are the ones being used.

The conf files remain at the same place. But I suspect a strange
behavior of systemd .

It's not the same issue as #800341 [1] but at first launch I got a
bungled file because of misconfiguration. I fixed it but it did not
solve the issue on port .


1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=800341



-- 
Cordialement,
Willy Ted MANGA

Re: Squid3 doesn't listen on any port on Jessie

[Willy Ted MANGA]

Hello,

Le 08/02/2016 11:17, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 11:20:30AM +0100, Willy Ted MANGA wrote:
>> [...] 2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| ERROR: No forward-proxy ports
>> configured. 2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| ERROR: No forward-proxy
>> ports configured.
>
> I can't say this is the problem, but the Interwebs come up with
> this:
>
> 

I saw this page earlier but I'm not sure to understand the solution.
Nothing is using the 3128 right now.

I tried without interception too ; squid doesn't listen either.

>
> What do you see when you issue "netstat -antp" (as root/sudo)? Is
> squid listening on anything? Is anything else listening on port
> 3128?

nothing as you can see in my attachment :(


-- 
Cordialement,
Willy Ted MANGA
root@gw:~# netstat -tanp
Connexions Internet actives (serveurs et établies)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Adresse locale  Adresse distanteEtat
PID/Program name
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*   LISTEN  
1859/sshd   
tcp0  0 10.45.0.254:36419   10.45.0.253:3493ESTABLISHED 
1856/upsmon 
tcp0  0 10.45.1.1:2210.45.1.49:43788ESTABLISHED 
1497/sshd: greg [p
tcp6   0  0 :::4949 :::*LISTEN  
2251/perl   
tcp6   0  0 :::22   :::*LISTEN  
1859/sshd

Attention_Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[maderios]

On 02/08/2016 12:05 PM, Philippe Gras wrote:

http://www.valeursactuelles.com

Bonjour
Merci de ne pas se faire le porte-parole ici du médium 'Valeurs 
Actuelles', journal militant de la droite dure et même souvent 
d'extrême-droite, donc bien loin d'une information digne de ce nom.
Que l'extrême-droite s'attaque à la ministre Najat Belkacem n'est pas 
nouveau. Quelques détails:

http://teleobs.nouvelobs.com/actualites/20151201.OBS0468/valeurs-actuelles-enquete-sur-une-extreme-droitisation.html
--
Maderios

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Bonjour,

J'abonde dans le sens de Jean.

Ce fil a très vite et très mal dérivé. Je crois que le mieux à faire maintenant
c'est de l'enterrer…

Merci !

Sébastien


Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 12:33, Jean Bernon a écrit :
> Ce fil de discussion est de plus en plus hors sujet. Après les handicapés, 
> maintenant les délires sur la théorie du genre à l'école. Est-ce qu'on 
> pourrait s'en tenir à Debian et à la promotion des logiciels libres et 
> laisser le reste à l'appréciation de chacun. Et descendons aussi des nuages. 
> Ayant été fonctionnaire pendant 40 ans, je sais avec certitude que plus de 
> 90% de l'administration publique utilise Word. Donc quel sens y a-t-il à 
> ajouter que le document est sous Word, sauf à être encore plus lourd ? 
> 
> - Mail original -
> 
> > De: "Philippe Gras" 
> > À: "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Debian"
> > 
> > Envoyé: Lundi 8 Février 2016 12:05:43
> > Objet: Re: Belkacem et microsoft
> 
> > Le 3 févr. 2016 à 11:08, Christophe De Natale
> >  a écrit :
> 
> > > Bonjour la liste,
> > >
> > > Désolé d'avance pour le *hs* / titre
> > > --
> > > Christophe De Natale 
> > >
> > Petite info au passage :
> > http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573
> 
> > Le ministère de Belkacem utilise Word ;-)

Re: Install ok, boot fail

[Fabrizio Carrai]

Yes! The GRUB_TERMINAL=console setting works...at least I moved forward.Now
I can access and edit the GRUB menu.

Now the last messages visible on the screen are:

Unable to read GCT!
VBT signature missing

Then the screen slowly turns white. The problem seems to be in the video
interface integrated in the Atom E6xx. I tryed several linux command option
like video=640x480 but without effects...

Any suggestions ?

Thanks
F.


2016-02-06 12:31 GMT+01:00 Fabrizio Carrai :

> Pascal,
> you understood correctly: the GRUB is not even shown. Indeed it would be a
> problen, but now is secondary.
> If the GRUB could continue the process (after the timeout), even showing
> nothing, that could be temporary acceptable. The problem is that it looks
> like that GRUB stuck the PC.
>
> I'm convincing that the problem is the GRUB. I tried to boot from a Super
> Grub 2, but it stucks as well.
>
> I'm going to work with the GRUB_TERMINAL=console setting.
>
> Thanks
>
> F.
>
>
> 2016-02-06 0:23 GMT+01:00 Pascal Hambourg :
>
>> Brian a écrit :
>> > On Fri 05 Feb 2016 at 15:05:27 +0100, Fabrizio Carrai wrote:
>> >
>> >> Then, at the boot time, nothing happen. After the BIOS messages the
>> screen
>> >> remain black (no messages at all).
>> >>
>> >> I temporary move the disk to another computer and then I was able to
>> boot
>> >> the fresh Debian installation (that confirmed that the installation
>> was ok).
>> >
>> > The other computer likely has a graphics card which (for whatever
>> reason)
>> > can handle what is given to it.
>> >
>> >> Any idea on the problem or how I could investigate on ?
>> >
>> > Can you reboot the single board computer with CTRL-ALT-DEL and get back
>> > to the GRUB menu?
>>
>> IIUC, the GRUB menu is not even displayed.
>> However you may be correct about a graphics mode issue, but in GRUB, not
>> the kernel. I have seen it on a couple of machines/graphic cards.
>>
>> Boot the system on the other machine or chroot from the installer or any
>> live system.
>> Edit /etc/default/grub to uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console.
>> Run update-grub to regenerate the grub config file.
>> Try to boot again on the single board.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Fabrizio*
>



-- 
*Fabrizio*

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

[Me]

Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 08:35 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> Otherwise you either lose the last writes to the device (if you're
> lucky and/or have a civilised file system on your stick, like ext3/ext4),
> or the whole file system is thrashed (more likely when you have an
> uncivilised filesystem, like some variation of FAT).

Thanks. That's what I'm worried about.

I want to report the bug. Should I send it to Debian or GNOME ?

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

[Me]

Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 10:06 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> It looks more a GNOME thing to me -- but I guess the Debian GNOME
> maintainers are able to cope with it (plus your report would be
> targetting the specific version you're using). So Debian seems
> to me the first choice here.

Thanks for the reply, I reported it to the Debian GNOME maintainer.

Re: Squid3 doesn't listen on any port on Jessie

[tomas]

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On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 11:20:30AM +0100, Willy Ted MANGA wrote:
> Hello,
> I just upgraded my server from wheezy to jessie and my squid3 doesn't
> listen to any port . :-\
> 
> I even remove all my settings and just modify `http_port` directive to
> `http_port 3128 intercept` . But I doesn't work either .
> 
> I have attached an excerpt of the cache.log .
> 
> 
> I don't know what's wrong .
> 
> -- 
> Cordialement,
> Willy Ted MANGA

> 2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Set Current Directory to /var/spool/squid3
[...]
> 2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| ERROR: No forward-proxy ports configured.
> 2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| ERROR: No forward-proxy ports configured.

I can't say this is the problem, but the Interwebs come up with this:

  

What do you see when you issue "netstat -antp" (as root/sudo)?
Is squid listening on anything? Is anything else listening on
port 3128?

regards
- -- t
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Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Philippe Gras]

Le 3 févr. 2016 à 11:08, Christophe De Natale  a 
écrit :

> Bonjour la liste,
> 
> Désolé d'avance pour le *hs* / titre
> -- 
> Christophe De Natale 
> 
Petite info au passage :
http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573

Le ministère de Belkacem utilise Word ;-)

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Nicolas Patrois]

Le 8 février 2016 à 12:58, Philippe Gras  a écrit :

> C'est la seule information que je souhaitais que vous reteniez, mais hélas je 
> me
> rends compte que vous concentrez uniquement votre attention sur l'accessoire, 
> en
> ce qui concerne le sujet du fil, bien entendu.

Ça fait un moment que l'Éducation nationale utilise Windows, Word et
compagnie, ce n'est pas un scoop.
Au fait, le site de Valeurs actuelles utilise IIS, Red hat ou Mandriva ?

n.
P.S. : erreur d'envoi pour Philippe...
--
En science, ce qui est démontrable ne doit pas être admis sans démonstration.
-+- Richard Dedekind -+-

Re: Montage partage samba

[Alain Abello]

Bonjour,

Exactement la même chose pour moi.
Je suis en testing. Et toi ?

Alain

Le 06/02/2016 14:25, Orion a écrit :

Bonjour,

depuis la mi-janvier mes partages samba, ne sont plus montés 
automatiquement, mon fstab est toujours le meme, et un mount -a 
rétablit la situation, systemd a-t-il introduit une manipulation 
supplémentaire pour monter automatiquement le smb??


Merci

Squid3 doesn't listen on any port on Jessie

[Willy Ted MANGA]

Hello,
I just upgraded my server from wheezy to jessie and my squid3 doesn't
listen to any port . :-\

I even remove all my settings and just modify `http_port` directive to
`http_port 3128 intercept` . But I doesn't work either .

I have attached an excerpt of the cache.log .


I don't know what's wrong .

-- 
Cordialement,
Willy Ted MANGA
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Set Current Directory to /var/spool/squid3
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Starting Squid Cache version 3.4.8 for 
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu...
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Process ID 27225
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Process Roles: worker
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| With 65535 file descriptors available
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Initializing IP Cache...
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| DNS Socket created at [::], FD 7
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| DNS Socket created at 0.0.0.0, FD 8
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Adding domain cm.auf from /etc/resolv.conf
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Adding domain cm.auf from /etc/resolv.conf
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Adding domain cm.auf.org. from /etc/resolv.conf
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Adding nameserver 10.45.1.182 from /etc/resolv.conf
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Adding nameserver 192.168.10.3 from /etc/resolv.conf
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Logfile: opening log daemon:/var/log/squid3/access.log
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Logfile Daemon: opening log /var/log/squid3/access.log
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Local cache digest enabled; rebuild/rewrite every 
3600/3600 sec
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Store logging disabled
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Swap maxSize 0 + 262144 KB, estimated 20164 objects
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Target number of buckets: 1008
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Using 8192 Store buckets
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Max Mem  size: 262144 KB
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Max Swap size: 0 KB
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Using Least Load store dir selection
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Set Current Directory to /var/spool/squid3
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| ERROR: No forward-proxy ports configured.
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| ERROR: No forward-proxy ports configured.

2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| Finished loading MIME types and icons.
2016/02/08 09:39:17 kid1| HTCP Disabled.
2016/02/08 09:39:17| pinger: Initialising ICMP pinger ...
2016/02/08 09:39:17| pinger: ICMP socket opened.
2016/02/08 09:39:17| pinger: ICMPv6 socket opened

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Philippe Gras]

Le 8 févr. 2016 à 12:33, Jean Bernon  a écrit :

> Ce fil de discussion est de plus en plus hors sujet. Après les handicapés, 
> maintenant les délires sur la théorie du genre à l'école. Est-ce qu'on 
> pourrait s'en tenir à Debian et à la promotion des logiciels libres et 
> laisser le reste à l'appréciation de chacun. Et descendons aussi des nuages. 
> Ayant été fonctionnaire pendant 40 ans, je sais avec certitude que plus de 
> 90% de l'administration publique utilise Word. Donc quel sens y a-t-il à 
> ajouter que le document est sous Word, sauf à être encore plus lourd ?

C'est pour signaler que le ministère est conséquent dans sa promotion d'un

système informatique plutôt que d'un autre.

Ceci hors toute considération d'ordre politique ou géostratégique…

La référence à la théorie du genre est incidente, vous l'avez bien compris ;-)

Ph. Gras

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Philippe Gras]

Le 8 févr. 2016 à 12:42, jdd  a écrit :

> Le 08/02/2016 12:05, Philippe Gras a écrit :
>> 
>> Le 3 févr. 2016 à 11:08, Christophe De Natale  
>> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Bonjour la liste,
>>> 
>>> Désolé d'avance pour le *hs* / titre
>>> --
>>> Christophe De Natale 
>>> 
>> Petite info au passage :
>> http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573
>> 
>> Le ministère de Belkacem utilise Word ;-)
>> 
> je ne sais pas si elle utilise Word, mis ce site est assez infect
> 
Quelle que soit l'état d'infection de ce site, il apporte la preuve qu'elle 
utilise Word.

C'est la seule information que je souhaitais que vous reteniez, mais hélas je me

rends compte que vous concentrez uniquement votre attention sur l'accessoire, en

ce qui concerne le sujet du fil, bien entendu.

Ph. Gras

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

[tomas]

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> Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 08:35 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
> > Otherwise you either lose the last writes to the device (if you're
> > lucky and/or have a civilised file system on your stick, like ext3/ext4),
> > or the whole file system is thrashed (more likely when you have an
> > uncivilised filesystem, like some variation of FAT).
> 
> Thanks. That's what I'm worried about.
> 
> I want to report the bug. Should I send it to Debian or GNOME ?

It looks more a GNOME thing to me -- but I guess the Debian GNOME
maintainers are able to cope with it (plus your report would be
targetting the specific version you're using). So Debian seems
to me the first choice here.

Whoever feel free to chime in!

regards
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Re: Squid3 doesn't listen on any port on Jessie

[Ron Leach]

On 08/02/2016 10:20, Willy Ted MANGA wrote:

Hello,
I just upgraded my server from wheezy to jessie and my squid3 doesn't
listen to any port . :-\




We just had a similar problem with a new squid 3 install on another 
distro.  (For historical reasons we have one old server running 
Fedora, just updated to Fedora 23 "server" configuration.)


In our case, squid was 'listening' fine on 3128 - but it wasn't 
'hearing' anything; the firewall was completely locked down in that 
last Fedora update (only port 22 was open, if I recall).  I mention 
this because, though we don't use Jessie, that Fedora update uses 
systemd, and SElinux(?) and this very restrictive firewall 
configuration, out of the box.  Even installing squid did *not* open 
the port 3128; the firewall had to adjusted by hand, and then squid 
worked fine.


As I say, we're still on Wheezy with our remaining systems, so I don't 
know whether Jessie is closer to that Fedora arrangement, or not, but 
thought this experience might help.


Have you also checked the squid/jessie configuration notes?  In moving 
to systemd on our fedora system, some of the 'conf' files moved from 
/etc/... to /usr/... and this seemed to be a consequence of systemd 
(in Fedora's case), but I don't know what happens in Jessie.  Just to 
check whether the conf files you are changing are the ones being used.


Ron

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Christophe De Natale]

Le mardi 09 février 2016 à 05:08 +0100, merkeda...@vmail.me a écrit :
> > serait il possible de revenir à l'origine du courriel :
> 
> https://linuxfr.org/news/les-membres-du-collectif-edunathon-demandent-l-annulation-de-l-accord-entre-microsoft-et-l-education

Sinon, la liste "educ" de l'*april* semblait plus appropriée pour parler
de ce type de sujet, non ? (ils en ont parlé de suite d'ailleurs)

Bonne journée,
-- 
Christophe De Natale 

fdupes

[Bob Holtzman]

I recently checked out the fdupes package because it would be useful. 
I noticed that there was no mention of source code being available. 
Did I miss something? If true, it doesn't qualify as FOSS. If not, 
how can Jessie include it in their repos. Is it because I have contrib 
in my sources.list file? 

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[merkedanke]

serait il possible de revenir à l'origine du courriel :


https://linuxfr.org/news/les-membres-du-collectif-edunathon-demandent-l-annulation-de-l-accord-entre-microsoft-et-l-education

slt
bernard<

Les mondanités creuses des cervelles éteintes devraient plutôt être 
redirigées vers des magazines modernes et culturels tels que " lui " par 
exemple.


Ce n'est pas le libre ou le tribunal qui peut bloquer ou stopper ou 
annuler un accord mais bien un marché , un concurrent , un client.


J'étais emballé par le partenariat scolaire debiansköll mais il 
s'adressait à une autre population située sur un autre territoire pour 
une autre époque.


je suppose que cet accord _gentleman agreement_ fait suite et précède à 
des avantages et privilèges comme il se doit lors de toute rencontre 
commerciale ; ce n'est plus une pratique mais une plus-value motivante 
non-négligeable.


Ah si des utilisateurs (trices) motivés (es) voulaient se donner la 
peine de ne plus regarder l'avenir vers leurs pertes mais tourner vers 
la lumière ; il y aurait peu-être une solution envisageable.


Une entreprise forte s'attaque ou s'interresse qu'aux plus  inexistants 
car c'est moins cher. C'est leurs travail de faire de l'argent avec 
leurs "matières premières " quelqu'elles soient d'ailleurs ... Vous ne 
pouvez reprochez à microsoft d'être exellent en de nombreux domaines , 
c'est aussi l'une de ses vertue et cela fait partie de son charme ...


Si tous ces gens qui manifestent sans cesse leurs 'opinions' [qu'est-ce 
que voulez que j'en fasse ? ce ne sont pas des faits réels ni quantifiés 
ni qualifiés ! ] voulaient bien cesser leurs préjugés et s'ouvrir autre 
part qu' à l'afrique par l'intermédiaire de voyous (es) français (es) et 
par l'amérique s'appuyant sur des maffias bancaires européennes ; ils se 
rendraient compte que les clients ne manquent pas ; que 3 autres 
continents sont avides de leurs venues et que de nouveaux marchés 
mettraient en balance et concurrence le tant décrié (souvent à tort et 
par jalousie malsaine) microsoft et le ferait reculer et éteindre bien 
plus sûrement que n'importe quel activisme.


j'ai gardé le plus drôle pour la fin "À défaut d’annuler cet accord, 
...les institutions publiques." tiré de :

https://linuxfr.org/news/les-membres-du-collectif-edunathon-demandent-l-annulation-de-l-accord-entre-microsoft-et-l-education
je ne crois pas pas que deux partenaires gangsters aient besoin d'un 
auto-proclamé médiateur _ le libre _ pour s'occuper de leurs affaires 
... bref , rien que du minable de chez minable avec un peu de sel ici et 
un peu de poivre là.



* quiz de la coquille oops

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Philippe Gras]

Le 8 févr. 2016 à 14:47, Haricophile  a écrit :

> Le Mon, 8 Feb 2016 13:05:16 +0100,
> Nicolas Patrois  a écrit :
> 
>> Au fait, le site de Valeurs actuelles utilise IIS, Red hat ou
>> Mandriva ?
> Sans vérifier, je pense du mac-adobe-machin... comme pas mal de gens
> dans la profession.

J'ai essayé avec nmap et curl, mais j'ai juste pu voir que c'était servi par 
nginx.

Ph. Gras
> 
> -- 
> haricoph...@aranha.fr 
> 

Re: [enterré] Belkacem et microsoft

[Christophe De Natale]

Le lundi 08 février 2016 à 12:05 +0100, Philippe Gras a écrit :
> Le 3 févr. 2016 à 11:08, Christophe De Natale  
> a écrit :
> 
> > Bonjour la liste,
> > 
> > Désolé d'avance pour le *hs* / titre
> > -- 
> > Christophe De Natale 
> > 
> Petite info au passage :
> http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573
> 
> Le ministère de Belkacem utilise Word ;-)

Vraiment sympa ta mise en forme :o
Et tes sources journalistiques aussi, la vache !

Je vois pas ce que je viens faire là, à part avoir répondu comme un
couillon que je suis aux déformations sur les handicapés...
Du coup, je crains de signer maintenant.

Allez, bonne après-midi quand même,
-- 
Christophe De Natale 

Re: [OT] Monitorizar tiempos carga completa web

[Camaleón]

El Sun, 07 Feb 2016 19:53:04 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:

> El día 7 de febrero de 2016, 19:28, Camaleón 
> escribió:

(...)

 How to integrate Nagios with Pingdom
 http://royal.pingdom.com/2015/02/10/integrate-nagios-pingdom/

>>> No no, a lo mejor me he expresado yo mal. Me refería a desde nagios
>>> monitorizar tiempos de carga de toda la web entera como si de un
>>> navegador se tratase. Eso mola pero hay que pagar subscripción no??
>>
>> ¿Suscripción? :-?
>>
>> El servicio de monitorización básico desde la web es gratuito y veo que
>> hay dos archivos descargables pero no leo que haya que abonar ningún
>> tipo de cuota para usarlos, cuestión de mirar la licencia o mejor
>> preguntarles directamente.
>>
>>
> Ah pues no sé a mi me pide pasta eh... Es más, me da 30 días de start
> free trial... Es más para empezar te piden datos de tarjeta y demás...
> 
> http://imgur.com/a/SljFO

¿Y cuándo te aparece esa pantalla, al descargar el script? 

Ninguna de las herramientas web son de pago, así que si te interesa la 
integración con Nagios mejor pregúntales qué tipo de servicio ofrecen, 
licencia, uso permitido, etc...

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: localhost sin acceso

[Camaleón]

El Sun, 07 Feb 2016 13:53:43 -0500, Ricardo Mendoza escribió:

(ese formato...)

> Saludos, tengo un problema hace ya un buen tiempo, abrí un hilo en esta
> lista pero ha pasado mucho tiempo desde aquella ocasión y hasta ahora
> puedo volver a retomar el tema por lo que quedo inconcluso, no logro
> poner de nuevo en funcionamiento el acceso al localhost, al intentar
> entrar por el url del nevagador me dice que no tiene acceso,podrían
> ayudarme con orientación para solucionar este problema,gracias.

Lo recuerdo, te respondimos varios y no llegaste a contestar el último 
mensaje que envié. Revisa el hilo completo para ver si te da alguna idea:

https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2015/08/msg00408.html

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Re: Difficulties while installing additional packages from .iso (USB stick) after successful stretch install

[sbeck]

Hi, 


I have made an all-in-one mail to the list as I'm not subscribed (Chris
let me know in PM that there are messages sent to the list only, thanks,
Chris), this keeps things simple and concise. I hope you don't mind.


(Proceeding according to Alex' message
(https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/02/msg00129.html) link to mail
archives https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/05/msg00562.html

root@mymachine:~# LC_ALL=C apt-cdrom -d
/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/ -mn ident
Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/
Identifying... [3abc47568bdd7e0b8c26d87fe7de50eb-2]
Stored label: 
root@mymachine:~# LC_ALL=C apt-cdrom -d
/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/ add
Using CD-ROM mount point /media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/
Unmounting CD-ROM...
Waiting for disc...
Please insert a Disc in the drive and press [Enter] 
Mounting CD-ROM...
Identifying... [3abc47568bdd7e0b8c26d87fe7de50eb-2]
Scanning disc for index files...
Found 0 package indexes, 0 source indexes, 0 translation indexes and 0
signatures
E: Unable to locate any package files, perhaps this is not a Debian Disc
or the wrong architecture?
E: No CD-ROM could be auto-detected or found using the default mount
point.
You may try the --cdrom option to set the CD-ROM mount point.
See 'man apt-cdrom' for more information about the CD-ROM auto-detection
and mount point.


-
Brian (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/02/msg00137.html

sources list (only one entry, the following)
deb [ trusted=yes ] file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/
stretch main
DVD directory was already there and mounted
mount /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/
apt-get update
Failed to fetch
file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
 File not found -
/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
(2: File or directory not found) Some index files failed to download. They
have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

-

Andyc (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/02/msg00145.html)
 
mkdir /media/7825-FBEA
less /etc/fstab
/dev/disk/by-id/usb-Generic_Flash_Disk_3F27C183-0:0-part1 /media/7825-FBEA
auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,noauto,x-gvfs-show 0 0
sources.list
deb [ trusted=yes ] file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso
stretch main contrib
apt-get update
Get:1 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch
InRelease
Ign:1 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch
InRelease
Get:2 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch Release
Ign:2 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch Release
Get:3 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
amd64 Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
amd64 Packages
Get:4 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
all Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
all Packages
Get:5 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Get:6 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de
Ign:6 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de
Get:7 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de_DE
Ign:7 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de_DE
Get:3 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
amd64 Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
amd64 Packages
Get:4 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
all Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
all Packages
Get:5 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Get:6 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de
Ign:6 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de
Get:7 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de_DE
Ign:7 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-de_DE
Get:3 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
amd64 Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
amd64 Packages
Get:4 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
all Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
all Packages
Get:5 file:/media/7825-FBEA/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[VieuxGeek DuSystem]

Au fait, le site de Valeurs actuelles utilise IIS, Red hat ou Mandriva ?

Je ne sais pas mais au moins c'est gnouPL :-)


http://www.valeursactuelles.com/LICENSE.txt

Le 8 février 2016 à 13:05, Nicolas Patrois  a écrit :
> Le 8 février 2016 à 12:58, Philippe Gras  a écrit :
>
>> C'est la seule information que je souhaitais que vous reteniez, mais hélas 
>> je me
>> rends compte que vous concentrez uniquement votre attention sur 
>> l'accessoire, en
>> ce qui concerne le sujet du fil, bien entendu.
>
> Ça fait un moment que l'Éducation nationale utilise Windows, Word et
> compagnie, ce n'est pas un scoop.
> Au fait, le site de Valeurs actuelles utilise IIS, Red hat ou Mandriva ?
>
> n.
> P.S. : erreur d'envoi pour Philippe...
> --
> En science, ce qui est démontrable ne doit pas être admis sans démonstration.
> -+- Richard Dedekind -+-
>

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Mon, 8 Feb 2016 15:29:38 +0100,
Fabrice Regnier  a écrit :

> 'lut,
> 
> > Petite info au passage :
> > http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573
> >   
> argh! Valeurs Actuelles C'est plutôt rude pour un lundi. :(
> 
> Calme tes ardeurs patriotiques Philippe.
> 
> a+
> 
> f.
> 

bonjour,


pour Philippe :

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusil_Gras

ça sent le point G ...

serait il possible de revenir à l'origine du courriel :

https://linuxfr.org/news/les-membres-du-collectif-edunathon-demandent-l-annulation-de-l-accord-entre-microsoft-et-l-education

slt
bernard

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Haricophile]

Le Mon, 8 Feb 2016 13:05:16 +0100,
Nicolas Patrois  a écrit :

> Au fait, le site de Valeurs actuelles utilise IIS, Red hat ou
> Mandriva ?
Sans vérifier, je pense du mac-adobe-machin... comme pas mal de gens
dans la profession.

-- 
haricoph...@aranha.fr 

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Fabrice Regnier]

'lut,


Petite info au passage :
http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573

argh! Valeurs Actuelles C'est plutôt rude pour un lundi. :(

Calme tes ardeurs patriotiques Philippe.

a+

f.

Re: Belkacem et microsoft

[Philippe Gras]

Le 8 févr. 2016 à 15:29, Fabrice Regnier  a écrit :

> 'lut,
> 
>> Petite info au passage :
>> http://www.valeursactuelles.com/politique/exclusif-le-document-confidentiel-qui-accable-najat-belkacem-43573
> argh! Valeurs Actuelles C'est plutôt rude pour un lundi. :(
> 
> Calme tes ardeurs patriotiques Philippe.

C'est une boîte française, Microsoft ?

Ph. Gras
> 
> a+
> 
> f.
> 

jigdo-lite for windows (from debian-cd list)

[Florent Larose]

Thanks for all that s working!

(It's just i feel not to be arrived yet ...

Indeed the first time i use jigdo ...)


-Message d'origine-
De : Thomas Schmitt [mailto:scdbac...@gmx.net] 
Envoyé : lundi 8 février 2016 17:41
À : debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc : florent.lar...@hotmail.com
Objet : Re: jigdo-lite for windows (from debian-cd list)

Hi,

we should move this to debian-user mailing list, as it is more about installing 
from the MS-Windows world and not about the installation ISOs themselves.

Please send your further replies to
  debian-user@lists.debian.org

The start of the thread is (in french) at
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2016/02/msg00010.html
and switches to english at
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2016/02/msg00012.html
I demonstrated a jigdo-lite download on Debian in
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2016/02/msg00014.html

Florent Larose  wrote on debian-cd:
> You said : " Debian mirror [http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/]:;, i am 
> french and i want a french or original english version, must i change 
> the mirror URL ?

I assume you will get proposed some other mirror address.

This does not influence the content of the DVD images you get.
"mirror" means "identical copy" here. They exist just to distribute the 
workload over many different network parts.

The installation procedure will ask you for your preferred language.
(I choose US english because it matches best my keyboard and i do  not have to 
translate german texts back to enlish in order to grasp  their meaning.)


Maybe the people here on debian-user can give you more specific advise if you 
tell us what kind of computer you want to equip with Debian. Shall it still 
offer the opportunity to start MS-Windows ?
Do you need to perform special tasks or is it just to explore it ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Problems with VLC in jessie

[Juan R. de Silva]

> If that does not help, please share the output of vlc -vvv.

Well, I did...

plugin ofmeet para openfire

[Ariel Alvarez]

Hola lista, tengo actualmente un servidor de mensajeria local sobre 
openfire, y como plataforma debian8, digo local puesto que el servicio 
solo es accesible desde dentro de la intitucion, dicho servidor no tiene 
acceso a internet, he estado haciendo pruebas sobre openfire con el 
plugin (ofmeet) para dar mis primeros pasos sobre video conferencias y 
me surgen algunas dudas:


obligatoriamente debe tener acceso a internet el servidor que lleva 
openfire con ofmeet?
en caso que si debiara tener internet en dicho servidor, mi enlace debe 
soportar Voz IP para poder gestionar video conferencias mediante 
openfire y ofmeet?


como datos adicionales:
openfire version 3.10.0

he estado buscando info en internet y practicamente todo se refiere a un 
plugin antiguo el cual no es ofmeet, cualquier ayuda seria bienvenida.


gracias de antemano por su acostumbrada ayuda.

-
Consejo Nacional de Casas de Cultura
http://www.casasdecultura.cult.cu

Re: Difficulties while installing additional packages from .iso (USB stick) after successful stretch install

[Brian]

On Mon 08 Feb 2016 at 15:12:21 +0100, sb...@secure.mailbox.org wrote:

> Brian (https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/02/msg00137.html
> 
> sources list (only one entry, the following)
> deb [ trusted=yes ] file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/
> stretch main
> DVD directory was already there and mounted
> mount /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/
> apt-get update
> Failed to fetch
> file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
>  File not found -
> /media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
> (2: File or directory not found) Some index files failed to download. They
> have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

This works with a Jessie DVD-1. The Stretch DVD has the same structure.

  ls -l 
/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/

should show Packages.gz.

Comment out the sources.list entry and do 'apt-get update'; lock and
/partial should now be the only files in /var/lib/apt/lists. /partial
should be empty. Also do 'apt-get clean'.

Now revert the commenting out and proceed with 'apt-get update'.

No amd64 kernels on i386 arch past 3.16.0-4?

[Mark Kamichoff]

Hi - 

For awhile I've been able to install 64-bit versions of recent kernels
on Debian i386 installations, to reap the benefits of a 64-bit kernel
without having to do a reinstall.  This gives me a 64-bit kernel and a
32-bit userland.  I've a flurry of i386 VMs that moved hypervisors and
now support 64-bit instructions, but I haven't wanted to reinstall them
all :)

However, I haven't seen any amd64 kernels past 3.16.0-4 for i386.  All
of the 4.x kernels are 32-bit:

(sinc:12:18:EST)% apt-cache search ^linux-image-
linux-image-4.3.0-1-686 - Linux 4.3 for older PCs
linux-image-4.3.0-1-686-pae - Linux 4.3 for modern PCs
linux-image-4.3.0-1-686-pae-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 4.3.0-1-686-pae
linux-image-586 - Linux for older PCs (dummy package)
linux-image-686 - Linux for older PCs (meta-package)
linux-image-686-pae - Linux for modern PCs (meta-package)
linux-image-686-pae-dbg - Debugging symbols for Linux 686-pae configuration 
(meta-package)
linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 - Linux 3.16 for 64-bit PCs
(sinc:12:18:EST)% dpkg --print-architecture
i386
(sinc:12:18:EST)% 

Is this type of configuration now deprecated or will 64-bit kernels for
i386 be coming sometime in the future?

- Mark

-- 
Mark Kamichoff
p...@prolixium.com
http://www.prolixium.com/

Re: Przestarzały link na stronie Debiana.

[kuLa]

On 2016-02-08 17:20:43, Dominik Danelski wrote:
> Witam ponownie,

Hej

> Podczas przeglądania zakładek na debian.org przeczytałem stronę
> dotyczącą języka polskiego. Znajduje się tam lista wartościowych stron
> www w naszym języku, a wśród nich można znaleźć "jakilinux.org". Samą
> stronę pamiętam i o ile kiedyś to mogło być rzeczywiście pomocne źródło
> wiedzy, to w tej chwili pod tą domeną znajduje się tylko informacja o
> tym, że taki serwis kiedyś istniał oraz odnośniki do stron internetowych
> największych dystrybucji. Myślę, że w tej chwili ten odnośnik nie pomoże
> żadnemu użytkownikowi i należy go albo usunąć, albo (jeżeli taka
> możliwość jest dozwolona) zamieścić link do wersji archiwalnej.
> 
> Bardzo proszę o informację, gdzie takie zmiany należy zasugerować, o
> wprowadzenie ich samodzielnie jeżeli ktoś posiada taką możliwość lub
> ewentualnie o wyprowadzenie mnie z błędu.

Zglos buga w pseudo paczce www.debian.org[1] i najlepiej dolacz patcha :-)

1. https://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages
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Re: jigdo-lite for windows (from debian-cd list)

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

Florent Larose wrote:
> (It's just i feel not to be arrived yet ...
> Indeed the first time i use jigdo ...)

The way may be long, depending on the destination.

Before you download all 13 DVD images by jigdo, you should have a plan
what to do with them. To burn them to 13 DVD media would be next. But
actually i assume you want to install Debian on some computer.

Tell us about it. Especially if there is a DVD drive and/or a
connection to the internet.

i wrote:
> > Shall it still offer the opportunity to start MS-Windows ?
> > Do you need to perform special tasks or is it just to explore it ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: No amd64 kernels on i386 arch past 3.16.0-4?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2016-02-08 11:32 -0600, Mark Kamichoff wrote:

> For awhile I've been able to install 64-bit versions of recent kernels
> on Debian i386 installations, to reap the benefits of a 64-bit kernel
> without having to do a reinstall.  This gives me a 64-bit kernel and a
> 32-bit userland.  I've a flurry of i386 VMs that moved hypervisors and
> now support 64-bit instructions, but I haven't wanted to reinstall them
> all :)
>
> However, I haven't seen any amd64 kernels past 3.16.0-4 for i386.  All
> of the 4.x kernels are 32-bit:

64-bit kernels are no longer built on i386, you need to enable amd64 as a
foreign architecture if you want them:

# dpkg --add-architecture amd64
# apt-get update
# apt-get install linux-image-amd64:amd64

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: vivaldi?

[Bob Holtzman]

On Sun, Jan 03, 2016 at 10:08:07PM +0100, deloptes wrote:
> Hi Gene, all,
> I think Gene should be handled with respect and patience
> 
> > Comments please, and what browser are you all using that doesn't hassle
> > the user to death, it Just Works, like firefox did 3 years ago.
> 
> The popup you see is because your flashplayer (plugin) is outdated. Whenever
> you update it, the pop up goes away until the next update is released. This
> happens for good or bad very often recently - 3-4 times a year.
> 
> But the installation of the flash plugin is not that complicated. At least
> you know how one works with a console (there is install script you run via
> sudo)
> 
> The other thing I'm doing is using the latest version of firefox and not
> icew. But this comes to personal preference.
> I do not like chrome, though it is not bad. I do not like it because it
> comes from google.

That's not the only reason to dislike it. I found it impossible to lock
it down like I can with iceweasel/fireffox

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Re: Squid3 doesn't listen on any port on Jessie

[tomas]

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On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:24:24PM +0100, Willy Ted MANGA wrote:
> Hi,

[...]

> In my case the firewall rules are OK. Squid do not listen at all.

[...]

> Jessie comes with systemd by default.

[...]

> The conf files remain at the same place. But I suspect a strange
> behavior of systemd .
> 
> It's not the same issue as #800341 [1] but at first launch I got a
> bungled file because of misconfiguration. I fixed it but it did not
> solve the issue on port .
> 
> 
> 1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=800341

What happens if you try to start squid "by hand", once the computer
is running? I mean not via sysctl? Perhaps use option -N to keep it
in foreground.

You might thus differentiate whether it's an init problem or a squid
config problem.

Do the systemd logs say anything?

Regards
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Re: vivaldi?

[Bob Holtzman]

On Mon, Jan 04, 2016 at 03:09:53PM +0100, Siard wrote:
> David Christensen:
> > Gene Heskett:
> > > http://freedomoutpost.com/2016/01/isis-to-activate-thousands-of-sleeper-cells-in-2016-to-destabilize-the-west/
> > 
> > I see the web page.
> >
> > > There I found a flash, tried to play it,
> > 
> > Following the paragraph "Baghdadi added: ...", I see a grayed area
> > with the text "A plugin is needed to display this content".  Clicking
> > on it has no effect.
> 
> I'd suggest not to install flashplugin-nonfree, but
> browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash instead.
> It makes the Pepper Flash plugin from Chrome available for NPAPI web
> browsers such as Iceweasel and Seamonkey, using the latest Flash
> version, which is 20.0.0.228 at the moment.

Which, at a guess, means it comes from Google. If true, ain't no way
that goes on my system! If I'm wrong, please educate me.

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Re: Install ok, boot fail

[Fabrizio Carrai]

2016-02-08 22:00 GMT+01:00 Pascal Hambourg :

> Fabrizio Carrai a écrit :
> > Yes! The GRUB_TERMINAL=console setting works...at least I moved
> forward.Now
> > I can access and edit the GRUB menu.
>
> Note that it may still be possible to use the graphic terminal but with
> specific graphics mode selected in /etc/default/grub.
>
> > Now the last messages visible on the screen are:
> >
> > Unable to read GCT!
> > VBT signature missing
> >
> > Then the screen slowly turns white. The problem seems to be in the video
> > interface integrated in the Atom E6xx. I tryed several linux command
> option
> > like video=640x480 but without effects...
>
> I have never seen this.
> Did you try the "nomodeset" option ?
> Does it happen if you boot in recovery mode from GRUB ?
>
>
Sorry, I found the "video=" option in a web page an I thought it was
standard, now I don't think so...
Yes, I tried the "nomodeset".

I did most of the tests editing the main Debian boot option from GRUB, the
boot in the recovery mode ends in the same way.

-- 
*Fabrizio*

jbd2-dm0-8

[Gokan Atmaca]

Hello

I use KVM. In a virtual machine "jbd2 dm-0" disk I / O is very
increases. It consumes up to 99%. For this reason, slowing down the
other virtual machine. What should I do to solve the problem. ?

Thanks..

Re: Install ok, boot fail

[Pascal Hambourg]

Fabrizio Carrai a écrit :
> Yes! The GRUB_TERMINAL=console setting works...at least I moved forward.Now
> I can access and edit the GRUB menu.

Note that it may still be possible to use the graphic terminal but with
specific graphics mode selected in /etc/default/grub.

> Now the last messages visible on the screen are:
> 
> Unable to read GCT!
> VBT signature missing
> 
> Then the screen slowly turns white. The problem seems to be in the video
> interface integrated in the Atom E6xx. I tryed several linux command option
> like video=640x480 but without effects...

I have never seen this.
Did you try the "nomodeset" option ?
Does it happen if you boot in recovery mode from GRUB ?

Re: Problem to detect external monitor on Lenovo ThinkPad Dock

[Don Armstrong]

On Fri, 05 Feb 2016, Fedele Mantuano wrote:
> This is the syslog part after deattach dock station:
> http://pastebin.com/rfgSkpKS.
> When I deattach the docking station the PC do a logout.

This looks like an issue with the dock station hotplugging a PCI device
and it not being detected by X properly.

IIRC, one of the on-dock DP ports on the ThinkPad docks is the same as
the mini DP port on the laptop; that output should always work. So if
you only need a single output, that's a potential work-around.

Beyond that, I think this might be a missing feature in the version of
the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver that you have in Debian vs whatever
version you had installed in Ubuntu.

I'd compare the two versions, and possibly upgrade your jessie install
of xserver-xorg-video-intel to the one in backports, which is
2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1, and significantly newer than 2:2.21.15-2+b2.

-- 
Don Armstrong  http://www.donarmstrong.com

Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come.
 -- Tussman's Law

[RESOLU]Re: [Wheezy personnalisé] erreur "grub: out of disk"

[Christophe De Natale]

Le dimanche 07 février 2016 à 23:55 +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
> Christophe De Natale a écrit :
> > Le dimanche 07 février 2016 à 22:36 +0100, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
> > 
> >> Tu veux dire que le système démarre correctement tout seul maintenant ?

Le problème a été résolu par ajout de l'option "--force" :
grub-install --force /dev/sda 

J'ai modifié le script contenu dans l'iso et chargé d'installer grub à
l'aide de ce programme : genisoimage (remplace mkisofs dans Jessie)
Infos ici : http://jcvassort.open-web.fr/modifier-une-image-iso/
L'installation et le redémarrage du serveur se sont déroulés sans
encombres.

[mi-hs]L'iso étant non-hybride et ayant besoin de créer une clé usb
bootable, j'ai installé syslinux-utils qui permet de lancer la commande
"isohybrid"
Infos ici : https://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb

Merci Pascal et bonne soirée,

-- 
Christophe De Natale 

Re: Problem to detect external monitor on Lenovo ThinkPad Dock

[Fedele Mantuano]

Yes Don,

I updaded xserver-xorg-video-intel with backports, but I will come back in
office tomorrow so I will try this change.

Thanks a lot.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:29 PM, Don Armstrong  wrote:

> On Fri, 05 Feb 2016, Fedele Mantuano wrote:
> > This is the syslog part after deattach dock station:
> > http://pastebin.com/rfgSkpKS.
> > When I deattach the docking station the PC do a logout.
>
> This looks like an issue with the dock station hotplugging a PCI device
> and it not being detected by X properly.
>
> IIRC, one of the on-dock DP ports on the ThinkPad docks is the same as
> the mini DP port on the laptop; that output should always work. So if
> you only need a single output, that's a potential work-around.
>
> Beyond that, I think this might be a missing feature in the version of
> the xserver-xorg-video-intel driver that you have in Debian vs whatever
> version you had installed in Ubuntu.
>
> I'd compare the two versions, and possibly upgrade your jessie install
> of xserver-xorg-video-intel to the one in backports, which is
> 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1, and significantly newer than 2:2.21.15-2+b2.
>
> --
> Don Armstrong  http://www.donarmstrong.com
>
> Nothing is as inevitable as a mistake whose time has come.
>  -- Tussman's Law
>
>


-- 
*Fedele Mantuano*

[OT] Re: plugin ofmeet para openfire

[Camaleón]

El Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:55:04 -0500, Ariel Alvarez escribió:

> Hola lista, tengo actualmente un servidor de mensajeria local sobre
> openfire, y como plataforma debian8, digo local puesto que el servicio
> solo es accesible desde dentro de la intitucion, dicho servidor no tiene
> acceso a internet, he estado haciendo pruebas sobre openfire con el
> plugin (ofmeet) para dar mis primeros pasos sobre video conferencias y
> me surgen algunas dudas:
> 
> obligatoriamente debe tener acceso a internet el servidor que lleva
> openfire con ofmeet?

Parece que ofmeet es un complemento para gestionar salas de 
multiconferencia ¿no? Si es así, no veo la necesidad de tener salida a la 
red salvo que quieras acceder a salas remotas.

> en caso que si debiara tener internet en dicho servidor, mi enlace debe
> soportar Voz IP para poder gestionar video conferencias mediante
> openfire y ofmeet?

(...)

VoIP (voz) es una cosa y la videoconferencia otra distinta. Pueden ir 
integradas o de manera independiente pero entiendo que no necesitas 
acceso al exterior para configurar el complemento de manera local ni 
tampoco para configuraciones que no requieran conexiones externas (como 
el acceso a un backbone/carrier para enrutar llamas a numeraciones 
remotas vía SIP).

Cuestión de leer la documentación del complemento y probarlo :-)

Saludos,

-- 
Camaleón

Debian stretch randomly freeze during shutdown/suspend

[Antonios Kouzoupis]

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Dear list,

As the subject implies I have some issues with the shutdown and/or
suspend. My setup is Debian stretch with gnome3, /boot plain and
encrypted LVM partition for /, /home and swap. My kernel version is
4.3.0-1-amd64, the list of installed packages is [0] and part of
syslog during a shutdown crash [1].

The strange thing is that it seems to happen "randomly" and then I
have to shutdown the hard way. Nevertheless, I have noticed that it
happens when the laptop is working for "sufficient" time (> 4 hours).
When that happens, gnome terminates and it gets stack in the terminal
regardless if I shutdown through gnome, pressing the shutdown button
or through terminal (tty). In my previous setup, Debian testing (quite
outdated) and xmonad everything was working flawlessly.

So far I was not able to figure out what provokes this and it's really
irritating. I know that I don't give a lot of information but as it
happens almost "randomly" it's not easy to reproduce it. In any case,
if you need more information ask me.

[0] http://sprunge.us/FOaK
[1] http://sprunge.us/hbPe

Thanks for your help,
- -- 
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Antonios Kouzoupis
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Re: effacement sécurisé de disque dur

[Etilem]

bonsoir,

Le ven. 05 févr. 2016 00:27:33 CET, Pascal Hambourg a écrit:

> Etilem a écrit :
> > 
> > je vais prochainement rendre mon ancien serveur et je voudrais
> > effacer de façon sécurisé tout ce qu'il contient,
> > 
> > je n'ai pas d'accès physique au disque du serveur et je compte le
> > faire à distance en mode rescue, plus exactement en démarrant sur
> > une distrib prévue à cet effet par mon fournisseur, donc avec le
> > disque non monté,
> > 
> > j'ai lu par ci par là sur le net qu'il n'était pas nécessaire de
> > faire plusieurs passes, que l'on pouvait utiliser "dd
> > if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda" ou même "shred", qu'il existait
> > plusieurs méthodes (Dod, Gutmann), qu'effacer un sata était
> > différent d'effacer un ssd,
> 
> Cette phrase ne veut rien dire. SATA et SSD ne s'opposent pas. SATA
> est une interface alors que SSD est une technologie de stockage. Une
> bonne part des SSD ont une interface SATA.
> 
> > mon choix s'orienterait vers dban, ou plutôt nwipe qui est un fork
> > du précédent, qui est disponible pour Debian et qui implante la
> > méthode Gutmann d'après ce que j'ai compris, je précise que le
> > disque est un sata,
> > 
> > donc la question : est-ce la bonne méthode et est-elle valable pour
> > un ssd ?
> 
> Mon avis qui n'engage que moi :
> 
> 1) Les données stockées sur un serveur hébergé ne valent pas un
> effacement sécurisé. Sinon, elles auraient dû au minimum être
> chiffrées.
> 
> 2) Une passe d'écriture avec des zéros suffit pour effacer un disque
> dur qui n'a pas eu de secteur réalloué (à vérifier avec smartctl).
> Aucune méthode externe ne peut effacer le contenu d'un secteur
> réalloué.
> 
> 3) Aucune méthode externe ne peut garantir l'effacement total d'un SSD
> compte tenu de son fonctionnement interne. Certains SSD ont une
> fonction interne d'effacement sécurisé (Secure Erase), mais il faut
> faire confiance au fabricant. A mon avis, la seule façon d'assurer
> que les données d'un SSD  ne pourront pas être relues,  hormis la
> destruction physique, c'est de les avoir chiffrées dès le départ et
> de jeter la clé.
> 

merci pour tous ces conseils Pascal, j'ai utilisé le deuxième avec un
script Perl que j'avais écrit il y a 6 ans, redécouvert par hasard :

http://www.etilem.net/perl/wipe_hard_drive.pl.html 

--
Etilem

Re: No amd64 kernels on i386 arch past 3.16.0-4?

[Mark Kamichoff]

On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 07:42:34PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:
> 64-bit kernels are no longer built on i386, you need to enable amd64 as a
> foreign architecture if you want them:
> 
> # dpkg --add-architecture amd64
> # apt-get update
> # apt-get install linux-image-amd64:amd64

Perfect, this is exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks!

- Mark

-- 
Mark Kamichoff
p...@prolixium.com
http://www.prolixium.com/

[SOLUCIONADO] Re: [OT] Monitorizar tiempos carga completa web

[Maykel Franco]

El día 8 de febrero de 2016, 15:37, Camaleón  escribió:
> El Sun, 07 Feb 2016 19:53:04 +0100, Maykel Franco escribió:
>
>> El día 7 de febrero de 2016, 19:28, Camaleón 
>> escribió:
>
> (...)
>
> How to integrate Nagios with Pingdom
> http://royal.pingdom.com/2015/02/10/integrate-nagios-pingdom/
>
 No no, a lo mejor me he expresado yo mal. Me refería a desde nagios
 monitorizar tiempos de carga de toda la web entera como si de un
 navegador se tratase. Eso mola pero hay que pagar subscripción no??
>>>
>>> ¿Suscripción? :-?
>>>
>>> El servicio de monitorización básico desde la web es gratuito y veo que
>>> hay dos archivos descargables pero no leo que haya que abonar ningún
>>> tipo de cuota para usarlos, cuestión de mirar la licencia o mejor
>>> preguntarles directamente.
>>>
>>>
>> Ah pues no sé a mi me pide pasta eh... Es más, me da 30 días de start
>> free trial... Es más para empezar te piden datos de tarjeta y demás...
>>
>> http://imgur.com/a/SljFO
>
> ¿Y cuándo te aparece esa pantalla, al descargar el script?
>
> Ninguna de las herramientas web son de pago, así que si te interesa la
> integración con Nagios mejor pregúntales qué tipo de servicio ofrecen,
> licencia, uso permitido, etc...
>
> Saludos,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>

Vale, gracias Camaleón. Esto aún así no me convence, quiero integrarlo
con nagios pero no solo que me envíe reportes sino alertas.

Al final me he currado editar el script de phantomjs nagios y he
actualizado el binario de phantomjs, ya me tira bien.

Lo he adaptado para que me devuelva los datos como los necesito e
incluso necesitaba añadir un useragent específico en la petición, de
un móvil.

Funciona muy bien, una maravilla... Se descarga la web entera,
imágenes, css... Mágico..

Gracias por todo.

Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

[tomas]

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On Mon, Feb 08, 2016 at 01:50:59PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Feb 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> > This seems like *very* bad advice. The system keeps a cache[1] of the
> > data in the USB and flushes this cache only from time to time (that's
> > what makes accesses to the otherwise slow USB pretty fast).
> 
> Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 --
> was like that. Anything USB had to be mounted/unmounted manually.
> What a pain.  And if you unplugged without unmounting . . .  Yes, things
> could break. But with Wheezy which I've been using for 3+ years have
> had no problems with just plug/unplug. The only precaution is to check
> the drive activity light isn't flickering.

Most definitely not. You have just been lucky. As long as a file system
is mounted, the OS is free to keep changed information in RAM, and
flushes it whenever convenient. If you pull the device out while those
changes haven't been flushed, you have data loss. If those changes
concern file system structural information... your file system is
thrashed. File systems with a journal are more robust wrt. to that
event, but the data which was in RAM hasn't made it to the stick.

You have been lucky because basically, if there is I/O bandwidth left,
the flushing happens relatively quickly. But I wouldn't count on
that.

> Of course, my install of Wheezy is very custom and minimal: for the GUI
> just a window manager, Openbox.  And I custom wrote my own udev rules
> for handling USB devices -- thumb drives, cell phones, eBook reader,
> etc.

That doesn't change anything.

> But a regular desktop should be set up to do the same thing,
> safely.

That's why the desktops have this thingy to "remove the device safely",
which under the hood does an unmount.

> If the OP's GNOME Shell is not doing this, but other desktops are, then
> GNOME might be the problem.

See above.

regards
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Re: le plugin nrpe ok pour le retour en ligne de commande, nok pour le retour en web

[Olivier PERDRIEL]

Bonjour, je n'ai pas utilisé Nagios depuis 5 ans mais en vrac :
- est-ce que ça fonctionnait auparavant ou ton installation est-elle nouvelle ?
- quels sont tes os ?
- quelle sont les versions des paquets Nagios, celles des plugins (vues par apt 
par exemple) ?
- rien du côté d'iptables j'imagine ?
- il n'y a pas un mode debug pour Nagios et un moyen de tester ses fichiers de 
conf ?
- les commandes Check qui font des ping fonctionnent - elles ? 
- je crois qu'on peut trouver librement sur le net l'excellent livre de Jean 
Gabes sur Nagios. Peut être pourra-t-il te donner des pistes

Désolé de ne pas pouvoir t'aider plus mais je suis en déplacement et loin de ma 
vieille doc Nagios de l'époque...

Pour les non réponses sur les listes, tu dois savoir que Nagios n'a plus trop 
la côte depuis 2 - 3 ans...

Bon courage

Olif

Le 7 février 2016 16:05:31 GMT+01:00, Patrice Go  a 
écrit :
>Bonjour,
>
>j'ai un problème avec le plugin nrpe. le serveur nagios et la machine
>ayant
>le plugin nrpe sont sur le même réseau local.
>en ligne de commande je peux récupérer les informations, par exemple
>pour
>check_load, à partir du serveur nagios (mais sur la machine, ça
>fonctionne
>aussi) :
>
>/usr/lib/nagios/plugins# ./check_nrpe -H 172.16.1.3
>NRPE v2.15
>/usr/lib/nagios/plugins# ./check_nrpe -H 172.16.1.3 -c check_load
>OK - Charge moyenne: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05|load1=0.000;15.000;30.000;0;
>load5=0.020;10.000;25.000;0; load15=0.050;5.000;20.000;0;
>
>
>et le log de nrpe daemon exprime la même chose.
>mais dans l'interface web de nagios, les informations vues en ligne de
>commande (comme pour toute autre action par check_nrpe!) n'apparaissent
>pas, par exemple pour check_load ça indique :
>
>Current Load
>UNKNOWN 2016-02-06 13:47:32 10d 21h 11m 46s 4/4
>CHECK_NRPE: Received 0 bytes from daemon. Check the remote server logs
>for
>error messages.
>
>
>je ne peux voir que l'état "UNKNOWN" et "CHECK_NRPE: Received 0 bytes
>from
>daemon. Check the remote server logs for error messages."
>
>j'ai lu le "NRPE-Troubleshooting-and-Common-Solutions" :
>https://assets.nagios.com/downloads/nagiosxi/docs/NRPE-Troubleshooting-and-Common-Solutions.pdf
>, mais aucune solution apparemment.
>
>en effet, le fichier nrpe.cfg de la machine est "dont_blame_nrpe=1"
>
>et dans le log du nrpe daemon (syslog), lors des demandes de web/nagios
>ça
>indique :
>
>Connection from 172.16.1.2 port 6582
>Feb  6 20:17:56 sec2 nrpe[28195]: Host address is in allowed_hosts
>Feb  6 20:17:56 sec2 nrpe[28195]: Handling the connection...
>Feb  6 20:17:56 sec2 nrpe[28195]: Error: Request contained command
>arguments!
>Feb  6 20:17:56 sec2 nrpe[28195]: Client request was invalid, bailing
>out...
>Feb  6 20:17:56 sec2 nrpe[28195]: Connection from #002 closed.
>
>dans le nrpe.cfg de la machine, si la commande est écrite en dur :
>
>command[check_load]=/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_load -w 5,3,2 -c
>20,15,10
>
>et avec sur le serveur nagios, le check_command qui va bien :
>
> check_command   check_nrpe!check_load
>
>ça fonctionne pas (pour l'interface web de nagios).
>
>dans le nrpe.cfg de la machine, si la commande est écrite avec
>possibilité
>d'arguments :
>
>command[check_load]=/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_load  -w $ARG1$ -c
>$ARG2$
>
>et avec sur le serveur nagios, le check_command qui va bien :
>
> check_command
>check_nrpe!check_load!5.0!3.0!2.0!20.0!15.0!10.0
>
>ça fonctionne pas non plus.
>
>le serveur nagios est un raspbian jessie, et la machine nrpe une debian
>jessie.
>
>je précise qu'à partir du serveur nagios en direction d'un vieux
>portable
>sous ubuntu 10.04 lucid, j'obtiens une réponse de nrpe en ligne de
>commande
>:
>
>NRPE v2.12
>
>et niveau graphique je vois les informations.
>
>ça fait une semaine que je bloque sur ce problème, et pas de réponse de
>la
>communauté nagios. j'aime bien la ligne de commande, mais si
>quelqu'un.E a
>une piste pour l'utilisation de la partie graphique web...
>
>sinon, un bug-report ?
>
>merci par avance.
>
>patg

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Re: GNOME Shell can't unmount my USB key

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 08 Feb 2016, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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> 
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2016 at 03:20:22PM -0800, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Sun, 07 Feb 2016, Me wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > In GNOME Shell, when I click on the "Eject" option in the
> > > notification bar to unmount my USB key, it unmounts correctly and
> > > then immediately mounts again, as if I just plugged it.
> > > 
> > > It happens only with the Kingston DataTraveler I own. I've tried
> > > on several desktops, and it seems to happen only with GNOME
> > > Shell. MATE, XFCE, and Ubuntu with Unity don't have the issue.
> > > And when I unmount it with Nautilus, it stays unmounted, as it
> > > should.
> > > 
> > > This bug is annoying, as I can't be sure that nothing is writing
> > > on my key before unplugging it.
> > > 
> > > I want to find the cause, and if necessary write a bug report. I
> > > need advice : should I report the bug to Debian or GNOME ? What
> > > additional information could I provide that could help ?
> > > 
> > > Obviously, if someone has a way to fix this without reporting a
> > > bug, I would also be happy to read it.
> > 
> > You shouldn't have to "eject" it all.  Just plug it in and when
> > done, pull it out. The system should mount and unmount it
> > automatically. We're not talking Windows here.
> 
> This seems like *very* bad advice. The system keeps a cache[1] of the
> data in the USB and flushes this cache only from time to time (that's
> what makes accesses to the otherwise slow USB pretty fast).

Perhaps in days gone by: my OS prior to Wheezy -- Fedora 12 --
was like that. Anything USB had to be mounted/unmounted manually.
What a pain.  And if you unplugged without unmounting . . .  Yes, things
could break. But with Wheezy which I've been using for 3+ years have
had no problems with just plug/unplug. The only precaution is to check
the drive activity light isn't flickering.

Of course, my install of Wheezy is very custom and minimal: for the GUI
just a window manager, Openbox.  And I custom wrote my own udev rules
for handling USB devices -- thumb drives, cell phones, eBook reader,
etc. But a regular desktop should be set up to do the same thing,
safely.

If the OP's GNOME Shell is not doing this, but other desktops are, then
GNOME might be the problem.

B

Re: Welcome to emergency mode!

[Felix Miata]

Dutch Ingraham composed on 2016-02-08 17:56 (UTC-0600):

>> >"tail: cannot open ‘journalctl’ for reading: No such file or directory".

>> >Now I'm really confused. Any explanation?

>> I belive tail is designed for use with text files...which systemd journal
>> isn't. 

> journalctl has a plethora of options listed in it's man page for
> limiting the journal's output.

> Regardless, you can pipe journalctl output through tail, e.g.:

> 

Quite true, but journalctl has paging built in. If you simply want to look at
the tail of the journal, do

journalctl


The other cursor pad keys work too.
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Re: Difficulties while installing additional packages from .iso (USB stick) after successful stretch install

[sbeck]

Hi,
> Brian  hat am 8. Februar 2016 um 19:50
> geschrieben:
> 
> 
> On Mon 08 Feb 2016 at 15:12:21 +0100, sb...@secure.mailbox.org wrote:
[...trimming the old message...]
> 
> This works with a Jessie DVD-1. The Stretch DVD has the same structure.
> 
>   ls -l
> /media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/
> 
> should show Packages.gz.
> 
> Comment out the sources.list entry and do 'apt-get update'; lock and
> /partial should now be the only files in /var/lib/apt/lists. /partial
> should be empty. Also do 'apt-get clean'.
> 
> Now revert the commenting out and proceed with 'apt-get update'.

Thanks, Brian, I commented out the entry in the sources.list file as you
proposed, but in my case it did not work. :-( Remember that I have a USB
stick with an DVD.iso, I do not have a real DVD

root@mymachine:~# LC_ALL=C cd /var/lib/apt/lists
root@mymachine:/var/lib/apt/lists# LC_ALL=C ls -l
total 4
-rw-r- 1 root root0 Feb  5 14:41 lock
drwx-- 2 _apt root 4096 Feb  8 23:47 partial
root@mymachine:/var/lib/apt/lists# LC_ALL=C cd /var/lib/apt/lists/partial
root@mymachine:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial# LC_ALL=C ls -l
total 0
root@mymachine:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial# cd
root@mymachine:~# LC_ALL=C apt-get clean
root@mymachine:~# LC_ALL=C apt-get update
Get:1 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch InRelease
Ign:1 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch InRelease
Get:2 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch Release
Ign:2 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch Release
Get:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Get:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Get:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Get:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Get:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Get:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Get:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Get:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Get:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Get:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Get:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Get:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Get:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Ign:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Get:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Get:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Ign:5 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main
Translation-en
Get:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
Err:3 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main amd64
Packages
  File not found -
/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
(2: No such file or directory)
Get:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Ign:4 file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso stretch/main all
Packages
Reading package lists... Done
W: Failed to fetch
file:/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
 File not found -
/media/cdrom/debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso/dists/stretch/main/binary-amd64/Packages
(2: No such file or directory)
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.

Then I took a closer look at the directory structure on the USB stick, and
look

Re: Welcome to emergency mode!

[Frank McCormick]

On 08/02/16 06:27 PM, Bob Holtzman wrote:

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:32:43AM +, Brian wrote:

On Mon 11 Jan 2016 at 00:51:24 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:


On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:40:28 -0500, Gary wrote:


On 10/01/16 07:15 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

After solving all my mount problems and changing from dynamic to

There are lots of things that can go wrong, but if you had been booting
normally, it's likely something you've done since the initial install.


I could solve this in twenty minutes with a re-install. Really, this
is a brand-new do-nothing-as-yet test-bed system. No users will be
harmed by this process :-) If I'm not giving you all enough useful
info about what's wrong, and I'm sure I'm not, just say so and I'll do
it first thing in the morning.


Access the systemd journal with 'journalctl'. If you are being thrown
into emergency mode there must be something seriously wrong. Lines of
priority ERROR and higher are colored red.


As root journalctl produces a long list, tail journalctl produces

"tail: cannot open ‘journalctl’ for reading: No such file or directory".

Now I'm really confused. Any explanation?



  I belive tail is designed for use with text files...which systemd 
journal isn't.

Re: Welcome to emergency mode!

[Dutch Ingraham]

> >
> >As root journalctl produces a long list, tail journalctl produces
> >
> >"tail: cannot open ‘journalctl’ for reading: No such file or directory".
> >
> >Now I'm really confused. Any explanation?
> >
> 
>   I belive tail is designed for use with text files...which systemd journal
> isn't.
> 
> 
journalctl has a plethora of options listed in it's man page for
limiting the journal's output.

Regardless, you can pipe journalctl output through tail, e.g.:

Re: Welcome to emergency mode!

[Bob Holtzman]

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:32:43AM +, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 11 Jan 2016 at 00:51:24 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:40:28 -0500, Gary wrote:
> > 
> > >On 10/01/16 07:15 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
> > >> After solving all my mount problems and changing from dynamic to
> > >There are lots of things that can go wrong, but if you had been booting 
> > >normally, it's likely something you've done since the initial install.
> > 
> > I could solve this in twenty minutes with a re-install. Really, this
> > is a brand-new do-nothing-as-yet test-bed system. No users will be
> > harmed by this process :-) If I'm not giving you all enough useful
> > info about what's wrong, and I'm sure I'm not, just say so and I'll do
> > it first thing in the morning.
> 
> Access the systemd journal with 'journalctl'. If you are being thrown
> into emergency mode there must be something seriously wrong. Lines of
> priority ERROR and higher are colored red.

As root journalctl produces a long list, tail journalctl produces 

"tail: cannot open ‘journalctl’ for reading: No such file or directory".

Now I'm really confused. Any explanation?

-- 
Bob Holtzman
A man is a man who will fight with a sword or
conquer Mt. Everest in snow. But the bravest of all
owns a '34 Ford and tries for six thousand in low.

Re: Welcome to emergency mode!

[John Hasler]

Bob Holtzman writes:
> As root journalctl produces a long list, tail journalctl produces 

> "tail: cannot open ‘journalctl’ for reading: No such file or directory".

> Now I'm really confused. Any explanation?

journalctl is a program for querying the systemd journal.  tail is a
tool to output the last part of a file.

man journalctl

man tail
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Welcome to emergency mode!

[Brian]

On Mon 08 Feb 2016 at 16:27:47 -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 10:32:43AM +, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 11 Jan 2016 at 00:51:24 -0500, Steve Matzura wrote:
> > 
> > > On Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:40:28 -0500, Gary wrote:
> > > 
> > > >On 10/01/16 07:15 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:
> > > >> After solving all my mount problems and changing from dynamic to
> > > >There are lots of things that can go wrong, but if you had been booting 
> > > >normally, it's likely something you've done since the initial install.
> > > 
> > > I could solve this in twenty minutes with a re-install. Really, this
> > > is a brand-new do-nothing-as-yet test-bed system. No users will be
> > > harmed by this process :-) If I'm not giving you all enough useful
> > > info about what's wrong, and I'm sure I'm not, just say so and I'll do
> > > it first thing in the morning.
> > 
> > Access the systemd journal with 'journalctl'. If you are being thrown
> > into emergency mode there must be something seriously wrong. Lines of
> > priority ERROR and higher are colored red.
> 
> As root journalctl produces a long list, tail journalctl produces 
> 
> "tail: cannot open ‘journalctl’ for reading: No such file or directory".
> 
> Now I'm really confused. Any explanation?

An inability to read journalctl(1) and note the -n option.