Re: New firefox isn't working

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 25 March 2016 18:48:36 Tom Browder wrote:

> On Friday, March 25, 2016, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> > ...
> >
> >
> > Is this my fault, or firefox?  If my fault, how do I fix it?
>
> I can't help you at the moment, Gene, I have pretty much boycotted
> Firefox. But I want you to know I enjoyed your web site and totally
> concur with your opinions--may God save our nation!
>
> If I were a Facebook user I would "like" your post.
>
> Cheers from another old-timer!
>
> -Tom

Thanks Tom.  Its hell for an old fart who can still remember his 
grandfathers tears the night of Dec 7, 1941.  Tears because he knew we 
would declare war.

And I believe thats the last war we fully intended to win.  Its all been 
downhill since.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Desabafo

[Gilberto F da Silva]

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> resolveram alterar as leis trabalhistas, e, como eu tinha apenas 8 meses de
> empresa, não tive direito a receber o seguro-desemprego.

  O facebook está chato com tanta gente postando coisas a favor e
  contra a presidente.  Não vejo o Brasil como grande nação a curto
  prazo.  Somos exportadores de commodties e importadores de
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Re: New firefox isn't working

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 25 March 2016 22:48:36 Tom Browder wrote:
> totally concur with your
> opinions--may God save our nation!

Please can we keep disagreements and comments on religion and politics off 
this site.  The two of them sully so much of the world.  Let's keep this area 
free of them.

Lisi

Re: Changing Boot Order

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 25 March 2016 23:31:34 Doug wrote:
> On 03/25/2016 07:16 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 06:04:12PM -0400, songbird wrote:
> >>i just tried this to make sure it worked as described
> >> and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.
> >>
> >>when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
> >> of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
> >> anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.
> >
> >OK, I must apologize.  Massive confusion here.
> >You are telling me which of the several kernels
> >I have that I can boot.  But when I wrote "Boot Order"
> >I was referring to being able to boot first from
> >the flash drive, then from the DVD drive, and
> >then, if there isn't a bootable flash drive inserted,
> >then the BIOS will check if there is a bootable DVD
> >inserted . . .  Only if there is no bootable USB thumb
> >drive inserted, or a bootable DVD, will the OS move
> >on to boot one of the kernels you have.
> >
> >I have a DVD, containing the first DVD of the Debian
> >jessie, and a USB stick, which I believe contains the
> >rest of  jessie , and I wish to install jessie using
> >these purchases.  But I can't if I can't get anything
> >to boot except the old wheezy kernels that have been
> >on my system for ever.
> >
> >Sorry for the confusion.
> >
> > Alan
>
> Perhaps I am not understanding the problem, but boot order for _devices_
> (not kernels or operating systems) is controlled by
> the computer BIOS. When you turn on the computer, there is usually some
> sort of message that says what key to press to
> access the BIOS setup routines. If there is not, the usual suspects are
> Del, or F2, or perhaps Esc. If you have the manual
> for your machine (or the MOBO in it) it should tell you. Some computers
> are a bit fussy about exactly _when_ you press
> the key, so if it doesn't seem to work, try again.

And however much the keyboard you have lights up, try another keyboard or two 
or there, preferably of different types, if at all possible including a PS2 
one.

Lisi

Re: Changing Boot Order

[Felix Miata]

Alan McConnell composed on 2016-03-25 19:21 (UTC-0400):


When I turn on the computer, the keyboard lights up just fine.
And everything else works fine.  It is just that I can't
boot from anything but my /boot, with its functioning grub.



In other words, the computer works fine, except that it
can boot only from the SW I have in my /boot and /boot/grub
directories.


So apparently what you need to do is get into BIOS setup, and change the boot 
device priority order to make DVD and/or USB higher priority than HD. In my 
MSI military class motherboard BIOS it can be done with mouse on the "boot 
device priority bar", which starts just a little bit below the great big 
digital clock top center.

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words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

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Re: Changing Boot Order

[Doug]

On 03/25/2016 07:16 PM, Alan McConnell wrote:

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 06:04:12PM -0400, songbird wrote:

   i just tried this to make sure it worked as described
and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.

   when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.

   OK, I must apologize.  Massive confusion here.
   You are telling me which of the several kernels
   I have that I can boot.  But when I wrote "Boot Order"
   I was referring to being able to boot first from
   the flash drive, then from the DVD drive, and
   then, if there isn't a bootable flash drive inserted,
   then the BIOS will check if there is a bootable DVD
   inserted . . .  Only if there is no bootable USB thumb
   drive inserted, or a bootable DVD, will the OS move
   on to boot one of the kernels you have.

   I have a DVD, containing the first DVD of the Debian
   jessie, and a USB stick, which I believe contains the
   rest of  jessie , and I wish to install jessie using
   these purchases.  But I can't if I can't get anything
   to boot except the old wheezy kernels that have been
   on my system for ever.

   Sorry for the confusion.

Alan

Perhaps I am not understanding the problem, but boot order for _devices_ 
(not kernels or operating systems) is controlled by
the computer BIOS. When you turn on the computer, there is usually some 
sort of message that says what key to press to
access the BIOS setup routines. If there is not, the usual suspects are 
Del, or F2, or perhaps Esc. If you have the manual
for your machine (or the MOBO in it) it should tell you. Some computers 
are a bit fussy about exactly _when_ you press

the key, so if it doesn't seem to work, try again.

--doug

Re: Changing Boot Order

[Alan McConnell]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 05:44:52PM -0430, Jhon Prada wrote:
>
> HI don't waste your time with Debian explanations.  Plug the keyboard and
> see if the lights are lighting.  If don't, it's the keyboard that is not
> activating in the boot.  Look for another keyboard or plug into another
> port and turns on the computer.  If the light is on, press f11 some some
> times until appear a menú with your boot drives
When I turn on the computer, the keyboard lights up just fine.
And everything else works fine.  It is just that I can't
boot from anything but my /boot, with its functioning grub.

In other words, the computer works fine, except that it
can boot only from the SW I have in my /boot and /boot/grub
directories.

Alan

-- 
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   "Women run for office to do something, and men run for
   office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)

Re: Changing Boot Order

[Alan McConnell]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 06:04:12PM -0400, songbird wrote:
>
>   i just tried this to make sure it worked as described 
> and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.
> 
>   when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
> of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
> anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.
   OK, I must apologize.  Massive confusion here.
   You are telling me which of the several kernels
   I have that I can boot.  But when I wrote "Boot Order"
   I was referring to being able to boot first from
   the flash drive, then from the DVD drive, and
   then, if there isn't a bootable flash drive inserted,
   then the BIOS will check if there is a bootable DVD
   inserted . . .  Only if there is no bootable USB thumb
   drive inserted, or a bootable DVD, will the OS move
   on to boot one of the kernels you have.

   I have a DVD, containing the first DVD of the Debian
   jessie, and a USB stick, which I believe contains the
   rest of  jessie , and I wish to install jessie using
   these purchases.  But I can't if I can't get anything
   to boot except the old wheezy kernels that have been
   on my system for ever.

   Sorry for the confusion.

Alan

-- 
Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
   "Women run for office to do something, and men run for
   office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)

Re: Changing Boot Order

[Michael Fothergill]

On 25 March 2016 at 21:01, Alan McConnell  wrote:

> First, thanks for all the responses.  They fell into two classes:
> those who advised repeating tapping/pressing on either the F!!
> key or the Delete key.  I've done that dozens of times, and
> received no responses.   And I can't change the screen which
> asks me which kernel I want to boot.  I get the top entry, and
> that's that.
>
> Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
> that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
> to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
> an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?
>
> I have found the paper manual for this, aftee some searching.
> It is labeled like the picture that appears on the boot., except
> that it has Z97 and H97 on the bottom, and is labeled User Guide
> It doesn't assume any kind of problem with accessing the boot
> menu.  But it does give a URL for Tech Support:  register.msi.com .
> There you have to sign up.  I've tried to sign up, but without
> success.
>
> There you have it.  I'm stymied on all fronts.  Again I plea
> for help!
>

​Try this:​


​http://www.easyuefi.com/index-us.htm​l

​It says it can be installed on linux machines.

Regds

Michael​

>
> TIA,
>
> Alan
>
> --
> Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
>"Women run for office to do something, and men run for
>office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)
>
>


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Re: New firefox isn't working

[Tom Browder]

On Friday, March 25, 2016, Gene Heskett  wrote:

> Greetings all;
> ...


> Is this my fault, or firefox?  If my fault, how do I fix it?


I can't help you at the moment, Gene, I have pretty much boycotted Firefox.
But I want you to know I enjoyed your web site and totally concur with your
opinions--may God save our nation!

If I were a Facebook user I would "like" your post.

Cheers from another old-timer!

-Tom

Re: Changing Boot Order

[Jhon Prada]

El 25 mar. 2016 5:36 PM, "songbird"  escribió:
>
> Alan McConnell wrote:
> ...
> > Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
> > that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
> > to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
> > an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?
>
>   i just tried this to make sure it worked as described
> and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.
>
>   when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
> of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
> anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.
>
>   so to boot a different selection you edit /etc/default/grub
> the line that mentions GRUB_DEFAULT and change the 0 to some
> other number.
>
>   in my case i have four entries.  so to test another i
> picked the entry 2 (which is really 3 on the list on the
> screen).  then did update-grub (as root).  worked.
>
>
>   songbird
>

HI don't waste your time with Debian explanations.  Plug the keyboard and
see if the lights are lighting.  If don't, it's the keyboard that is not
activating in the boot.  Look for another keyboard or plug into another
port and turns on the computer.  If the light is on, press f11 some some
times until appear a menú with your boot drives

Re: repositories frozen since Mar 20th?

[Frank McCormick]

On 25/03/16 03:55 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:

Frank McCormick  wrote:


Last time I checked...last night...the google-chrome repository
still wasn't fixed. However my system still downloaded and installed the
latest google-chrome.

That still is out of the hands of the Debian maintainers, this is
something Google has to fix on their end:

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=596074

Grüßem
Sven.





   For further problems with other repositories this is the page to 
consult:



This page keeps track of repositories broken or half-broken by the SHA1 
removal. Please note that we intend to shut of SHA1 completely on 
January 1, 2017.


https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Apt/Sha1Removal

Re: Changing Boot Order

[songbird]

Alan McConnell wrote:
...
> Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
> that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
> to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
> an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?

  i just tried this to make sure it worked as described 
and it worked so i'm not sure what you didn't do correctly.

  when your grub boot screen flashes there will be a list
of entries to select.  the default if you haven't changed
anything is 0.  i.e. the first item on that list.

  so to boot a different selection you edit /etc/default/grub
the line that mentions GRUB_DEFAULT and change the 0 to some
other number.

  in my case i have four entries.  so to test another i
picked the entry 2 (which is really 3 on the list on the
screen).  then did update-grub (as root).  worked.


  songbird

Re: Firefox is terug in Debian

[Frans van Berckel]

On Fri, 2016-03-25 at 22:02 +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

> Het pakket heet inderdaad niet "firefox" maar "firefox-esr".
> https://packages.debian.org/unstable/firefox-esr
> 
> Er is ook een pakket "firefox, dat bevat de nieuwste consumenten 
> versie, en komt niet verder dan sid.

In tracker staan ze beide voor unstable ...

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox-esr

Met vriendelijke groet,


Frans van Berckel

Re: Changing Boot Order

[Alan McConnell]

First, thanks for all the responses.  They fell into two classes:
those who advised repeating tapping/pressing on either the F!!
key or the Delete key.  I've done that dozens of times, and
received no responses.   And I can't change the screen which
asks me which kernel I want to boot.  I get the top entry, and
that's that.

Others have suggested changing /etc/default/grub.  I've tried
that too, and have run 'update-grub' afterward.  It doesn't seem
to have done anything.  Perhaps someone can post an example of
an /etc/default/grub where the boot order is explicitly described?

I have found the paper manual for this, aftee some searching.
It is labeled like the picture that appears on the boot., except
that it has Z97 and H97 on the bottom, and is labeled User Guide
It doesn't assume any kind of problem with accessing the boot
menu.  But it does give a URL for Tech Support:  register.msi.com .
There you have to sign up.  I've tried to sign up, but without
success.

There you have it.  I'm stymied on all fronts.  Again I plea
for help!

TIA,

Alan

-- 
Alan McConnell :  http://globaltap.com/~alan/
   "Women run for office to do something, and men run for
   office to be somebody." (Debbie Walsh)

Re: Further to my installation error

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 25 March 2016 15:48:56 Pascal Hambourg wrote:

> Le 20/03/2016 19:58, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> > On Sunday 20 March 2016 14:39:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >> Le 20/03/2016 17:56, Gene Heskett a écrit :
> >>> Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector count of 25, but
> >>> no clue as to how many spares are left
> >>
> >> You can estimate it from the initial and current normalized values
> >> of the attribute.
> >>
> >> Remaining = raw value * norm. value / (init. norm. value - norm.
> >> value)
> >
> > But smartctl isn't spitting that data out.
>
> What do you mean ? Doesn't 'smartctl -A' display the normalized and
> raw valued of the attributes ?

It may, on newer drives, but not on these.

> >  It is a 1 terrabyte drive, is there a reserved percentage?
>
> AFAIK there is no standard about the reserved sector count, if this is
> what you want to know.

Thats what I was asking for, a way to tease that out.
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   114   099   006Pre-fail  Always   
-   64516572
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0003   100   100   000Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0032   100   100   020Old_age   Always   
-   375
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036Pre-fail  Always   
-   25
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   081   060   030Pre-fail  Always   
-   147509778
  9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   039   039   000Old_age   Always   
-   53804
 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013   100   100   097Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0032   100   100   020Old_age   Always   
-   380
184 End-to-End_Error0x0032   100   100   099Old_age   Always   
-   0
187 Reported_Uncorrect  0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   0
188 Command_Timeout 0x0032   100   099   000Old_age   Always   
-   4
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a   001   001   000Old_age   Always   
-   291
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   063   057   045Old_age   Always   
-   37 (Min/Max 26/41)
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022   037   043   000Old_age   Always   
-   37 (0 18 0 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   025   022   000Old_age   Always   
-   64516572
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   000Old_age   Offline  
-   0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count0x003e   200   200   000Old_age   Always   
-   0
240 Head_Flying_Hours   0x   100   253   000Old_age   Offline  
-   53800 (168 12 0)
241 Total_LBAs_Written  0x   100   253   000Old_age   Offline  
-   3559232973
242 Total_LBAs_Read 0x   100   253   000Old_age   Offline  
-   3031833807

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

On the drive which does have some "re-allocated sectors", and I read that
24 of 36 as getting uncomfortably close to the far end of the bathtub
curve. I should be acquiring a fresh drive to assure continuity,

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: repositories frozen since Mar 20th?

[Sven Hartge]

Frank McCormick  wrote:

>Last time I checked...last night...the google-chrome repository 
> still wasn't fixed. However my system still downloaded and installed the 
> latest google-chrome.

That still is out of the hands of the Debian maintainers, this is
something Google has to fix on their end:

https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=596074

Grüßem
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Further to my installation error

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 20/03/2016 19:58, Gene Heskett a écrit :

On Sunday 20 March 2016 14:39:41 Pascal Hambourg wrote:


Le 20/03/2016 17:56, Gene Heskett a écrit :

Now, I do note that sdb has a re-allocated sector count of 25, but
no clue as to how many spares are left


You can estimate it from the initial and current normalized values of
the attribute.

Remaining = raw value * norm. value / (init. norm. value - norm.
value)


But smartctl isn't spitting that data out.


What do you mean ? Doesn't 'smartctl -A' display the normalized and raw 
valued of the attributes ?



 It is a 1 terrabyte drive, is there a reserved percentage?


AFAIK there is no standard about the reserved sector count, if this is 
what you want to know.

Re: Further to my installation error

[Pascal Hambourg]

Adam Wilson a écrit :
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:51:56 +0100
> Pascal Hambourg  wrote:
>> Adam Wilson a écrit :
> 
>>> USB can still
>>> only be booted from UEFI, but newer d-i means that installation now
>>> proceeds as normal until the point at which UEFI yes/no
>>> (force/leave) selection is reached  
>>
>> I don't remember seeing this option in Jessie's installer when booted
>> in EFI mode. How is it labeled exactly ? At what stage is it
>> proposed ?
(...)
> It is in between the tasksel stage and the GRUB installation stage. A
> prompt appeared telling me that I could either 'Force UEFI' for the
> operating system installation, and have Jessie configured to boot from
> UEFI, or not. It detected the fact that I had booted from UEFI but my
> system was capable of either booting method.

Eventually I was able to trigger the prompt. Thanks for the information.

It actually happens when partman (the partition tool) starts, if an
already installed system which boots from legacy mode is detected.

I think I never met this situation during my previous installations ;
either there was no other system installed, either the other system
booted from EFI mode too. This time by chance there was a previous
Debian installation in legacy mode.

Re: New Deb 8 and no sshd access from other hosts

[Tom Browder]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Jörg-Volker Peetz  wrote:
> I'd first check file permissions in your .ssh directory (see man ssh).
> If they are o.k.,  I'd call ssh with one or more -v switches.

On, duh, forgot about the '-v' option--I'll work with that and report back.

Thanks, jvp!

-Tom

Re: New Deb 8 and no sshd access from other hosts

[Tom Browder]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 12:38 PM, David Wright  wrote:
> On Fri 25 Mar 2016 at 12:12:44 (-0500), Tom Browder wrote:
>> I have installed Deb on my laptop and reused my old Deb 7 .ssh directory.
>>
>> I can now ssh into the existing remote servers but cannot ssh into my
>> laptop from them (as a normal user)--I always get asked for a
>> password.  So the remote servers recognize my old Deb 7 keys, but
>> apparently my laptop doesn't recognize the other servers' keys.
...
>> Can anyone suggest where to look next?
>
> What you lost on your laptop is ~/.ssh/authorized_keys which would
> have had the public keys from your ~/.ssh/ on each of the remote hosts.

No, the authorized_keys are still there.

Thanks.

-Tom

Re: repositories frozen since Mar 20th?

[David Wright]

On Tue 22 Mar 2016 at 12:45:46 (+0100), Sven Hartge wrote:
> Jörg-Volker Peetz  wrote:
> 
> > Any clue to why the debian repositories, especially testing and sid,
> > seem to be unchanged since Mar 20th?
> 
> Maybe this has something to do with the removal of the SHA1 checksums in
> the Release file and the removal of gzipped Packages files? Perhaps
> something internally broke and the mirrors are not updated correctly any
> more.

Trusting that repository normalcy is restored, I ran apt-cacher-ng and
deleted 34 cached {Packages,Sources}{,.bz2} files that have no copy
in the repository, whereupon I could purge all my expired packages again.

It's a shame that apt-cacher-ng doesn't appear able to delete those
files when it has successfully downloaded their {.gz,.xz} equivalents
(even when it has both gz/xz).

It's also odd that, even after forcing a download of all the packages
files in full, it still hangs on to quite a collection of stale
package-diff files. I think I have to manually delete these.

Mustn't knock it though; in all other respects it does a great job.

Cheers,
David.

Echoaudio wiki, Debian 8.3.0, error -2/-12/-5?

[dymi...@juno.com]

I have followed the instructions (last updated January 2013) at 
wiki.debian.org/echoaudio very closely with my 8.3.0 installation; after 
entering modprobe snd-echo3g I received the following message:

[ 3129.360760] snd_echo3g :0a:0e.0: firmware: failed to load 
ea/echo3g_dsp.fw (-2)
[ 3129.360765] snd_echo3g :0a:0e.0: Direct firmware load failed with error 
-2
[ 3129.360768] snd_echo3g :0a:0e.0: Falling back to user helper
[ 3129.550716] snd_echo3g: probe of :0a:0e.0 failed with error -12

Noticing that nothing else used the /usr/local/lib/firmware/ location, I then 
moved the /ea directory into /lib/firmware and repeated the modprobe commands, 
which does not produce sound but does produce an interesting result:

[ 3376.878071] snd_echo3g :0a:0e.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware 
ea/echo3g_dsp.fw
[ 3377.252008] snd_echo3g: probe of :0a:0e.0 failed with error -5

So apparently echo3g_dsp.fw can be loaded from /lib/firmware (direct-loading) 
and not /usr/local/lib/firmware (failed to load), but something else still 
needs to be done differently. Unfortunately I can find no references for the 
error codes. I imagine -2 means the file is missing from an expected location, 
but have no idea what -12 and -5 could mean; can someone explain them?

This sound card did work under Squeeze perfectly well, using the completely 
different instructions linked from the Alsa project site. I am willing to use 
them later as a last resort.

Thank you,

Dymitry

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Re: repositories frozen since Mar 20th?

[Frank McCormick]

On 25/03/16 12:15 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016, at 07:05, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:

Meanwhile, the issue seems to be fixed. New packages appearing again in
the
testing and sid repositories.

Yes, it is fixed. It was broken for two or three days, only.

Users of debmirror that have mirrors of testing or unstable will want to
switch to the version in Debian testing, though.  I will ask the
debmirror maintainer for a backports release or a stable update (if
nobody did it already), but meanwhile anyone that needs it can simply
download the source package for unstable and rebuild it in stable. It
works just fine.



   Last time I checked...last night...the google-chrome repository 
still wasn't fixed. However my system still downloaded and installed the 
latest google-chrome.

Re: New Deb 8 and no sshd access from other hosts

[David Wright]

On Fri 25 Mar 2016 at 12:12:44 (-0500), Tom Browder wrote:
> I have installed Deb on my laptop and reused my old Deb 7 .ssh directory.
> 
> I can now ssh into the existing remote servers but cannot ssh into my
> laptop from them (as a normal user)--I always get asked for a
> password.  So the remote servers recognize my old Deb 7 keys, but
> apparently my laptop doesn't recognize the other servers' keys.
> 
> I have compared files:
> 
>   /etc/ssh/ssh_conf
>   /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
>   /etc/pam.d/ssh/sshd
> 
> between the laptop and the remote server and can see no significant
> difference for a normal user.
> 
> I can also see the host names in the .ssh/known_hosts file.  I do see
> that my laptop host's entries in the remote host's known_hosts are of
> type "EDCSA" while the remote host's entries in the laptop's
> known_hosts file are of type "RSA."
> 
> Can anyone suggest where to look next?

What you lost on your laptop is ~/.ssh/authorized_keys which would
have had the public keys from your ~/.ssh/ on each of the remote hosts.
You can write them back by typing
$ ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub your-user-name@laptop
on each of the remote servers in turn.

Now, when you-on-the-remote-host try to contact the laptop with ssh,
the laptop will use the public key (that you just copied) to ascertain
that you-on-the-remote-host know the private key of the pair, and let
you in.

Cheers,
David.

Re: New Deb 8 and no sshd access from other hosts

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

I'd first check file permissions in your .ssh directory (see man ssh).
If they are o.k.,  I'd call ssh with one or more -v switches.

Regards,
jvp.

Re: clamav.securite.com no longer exists

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 25 March 2016 16:21:50 Arnaud Jacques / SecuriteInfo.com wrote:
> Hello,
>
> > OTOH it also might be better to use what is in the repos
>
> Even if what's in repos is old and obsolete ?
>
> > as opposed to
> > something gleaned off of github, with potentially zilch for security.
> > 3rd party repos can lead to many tears. :( Ric
>
> It is not just "something gleaned off of github", it is the new version of
> clamav-unofficial-sigs script, originaly written by Bill
> Landry/SaneSecurity and now maintained by eXtremeSHOK.com.

Yes - gleaned from github.

Lisi

Re: New Deb 8 and no sshd access from other hosts

[Tom Browder]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Tom Browder  wrote:
> I have installed Deb on my laptop and reused my old Deb 7 .ssh directory.
...
> that my laptop host's entries in the remote host's known_hosts are of
> type "EDCSA" while the remote host's entries in the laptop's

That should have been "ECDSA."

New Deb 8 and no sshd access from other hosts

[Tom Browder]

I have installed Deb on my laptop and reused my old Deb 7 .ssh directory.

I can now ssh into the existing remote servers but cannot ssh into my
laptop from them (as a normal user)--I always get asked for a
password.  So the remote servers recognize my old Deb 7 keys, but
apparently my laptop doesn't recognize the other servers' keys.

I have compared files:

  /etc/ssh/ssh_conf
  /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
  /etc/pam.d/ssh/sshd

between the laptop and the remote server and can see no significant
difference for a normal user.

I can also see the host names in the .ssh/known_hosts file.  I do see
that my laptop host's entries in the remote host's known_hosts are of
type "EDCSA" while the remote host's entries in the laptop's
known_hosts file are of type "RSA."

Can anyone suggest where to look next?

Thanks.

Best regards,

-Tom

Re: clamav.securite.com no longer exists

[Arnaud Jacques / SecuriteInfo.com]

Hello,

> OTOH it also might be better to use what is in the repos

Even if what's in repos is old and obsolete ?

> as opposed to
> something gleaned off of github, with potentially zilch for security.
> 3rd party repos can lead to many tears. :( Ric

It is not just "something gleaned off of github", it is the new version of 
clamav-unofficial-sigs script, originaly written by Bill Landry/SaneSecurity 
and now maintained by eXtremeSHOK.com.

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Re: repositories frozen since Mar 20th?

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016, at 07:05, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
> Meanwhile, the issue seems to be fixed. New packages appearing again in
> the
> testing and sid repositories.

Yes, it is fixed. It was broken for two or three days, only.

Users of debmirror that have mirrors of testing or unstable will want to
switch to the version in Debian testing, though.  I will ask the
debmirror maintainer for a backports release or a stable update (if
nobody did it already), but meanwhile anyone that needs it can simply
download the source package for unstable and rebuild it in stable. It
works just fine.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique de Moraes Holschuh 

Re: HWRAID

[Andy Smith]

Hi,

This is more of a debian-user question as it is off-topic on
debian-project. I've sent a copy there.

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 05:50:56PM +0200, bortunadr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is there any chance to install Debian8 over hardware raid 10 ?  If
> true please give a list of compatible cards. 

It would be a long list as it would be pretty much any RAID card
supported by the Linux kernel without the need for proprietary
firmware.

Specifically I have had no problems with the 3ware and now LSI RAID
cards, although it has been a few years since I installed with one
(switched to SSDs and md RAID).

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: clamav.securite.com no longer exists

[Ric Moore]

On 03/25/2016 04:18 AM, Arnaud Jacques / SecuriteInfo.com wrote:

Hello,

The debian packages clamav-unofficial-sigs use an old script from
sanesecurity.
I suggest to use this new script for this package :

https://github.com/extremeshok/clamav-unofficial-sigs

It is recommanded by sanesecurity itself :
http://sanesecurity.com/usage/linux-scripts/
and
http://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2015-May/001521.html

OTOH it also might be better to use what is in the repos as opposed to 
something gleaned off of github, with potentially zilch for security. 
3rd party repos can lead to many tears. :( Ric


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..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
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Re: Comment scripter la configuration d'équipements configurables par une appli web ?

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Bonjour,

Le vendredi 25 mars 2016 à 15:04, mireero a écrit :
> J'imagine qu'avec des outils de type "web développeur" qu'on trouve
> maintenant sur la plupart des navigateurs, on peut récupérer les requêtes
> (par exemple celle qui logue sur la livebox avec user/pwd), puis créer une
> petite application nodejs client (par exemple) ou tout simplement utiliser
> netcat pour émettre la même requête (tout en pensant sans doute à gérer le
> cookie de session etc.).

> Ça fonctionnerait, non?

Oui, ça devrait fonctionner, à condition que les différentes URL soient toujours
les mêmes et pointent vers de vraies pages (on en revient à JavaScript et la
possibilité d’adapter le contenu d’une page par son « hash » – ce qu’on trouve
après le « # » – qui est maintenant beaucoup utilisé pour déplacer la logique de
rendu des pages vers le navigateur). Si on est face à ce type d’application
moderne, on peut récupérer la liste des URL appelées en arrière-plan, mais le
succès d’un script qui les appellerait n’est pas toujours garanti (j’en ai déjà
fait les frais).

En gros, ça ne coûte rien d’essayer. C’est même en général ma première approche
et j’en change quand ça devient galère.

Sébastien

New firefox isn't working

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings all;

The reason is that it treats every clicked on link in an email, into a 
download of the site, which kills lots of time, and the subsequent 
display of the site by showing the file://tmp/somehashnumber it has 
downloaded in the address titlebar.

Is this my fault, or firefox?  If my fault, how do I fix it?

Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Comment scripter la configuration d'équipements configurables par une appli web ?

[mireero]

On 03/24/2016 02:40 PM, Daniel Caillibaud wrote:

Le 24/03/16 à 11:21, Sébastien NOBILI  a écrit :

SN> Bonjour,
SN>
SN> Le jeudi 24 mars 2016 à 10:45, Olivier a écrit :
SN> > J'ai souvent besoin de re-configurer ou d'émettre commandes sur des
SN> > équipements administrables par une appli web.
SN> > Un exemple typique serait de re-démarrer une Livebox: sans outil, il faut
SN> > saisir l'adresse IP de la Livebox, cliquer sur un bouton pour passer en
SN> > mode étendu, cliquer sur un bouton reboot et une fenêtre de confirmation.
SN> > Comment automatiser tout ça ?
SN> >
SN> > J'ai moi-même pensé à des outils de test d'applis web (cf Selenium en [1])
SN> > ou des navigateurs en mode texte.
SN>
SN> Moi aussi ça me trotte… Je n’ai jamais mis en place pour ce type de besoin, 
mais
SN> j’ai déjà fait des choses similaires pour d’autres besoins (télécharger la
SN> version PDF d’un journal sur son site, récupérer une liste de petites 
annonces
SN> pour me les envoyer par mail, par exemple).
SN>
SN> L’approche navigateur en mode texte risque de ne pas fonctionner si 
l’interface
SN> utilise du JavaScript. Si c’est une interface simple, alors, lynx fera bien
SN> l’affaire mais il me semble qu’on ne peut pas l’automatiser… Pour 
automatiser,
SN> il faudra passer par des bibliothèques dédiées (LWP avec Perl, requests avec
SN> Python, etc.).
SN>
SN> Pour des applications utilisant JavaScript, j’utilise CasperJS.

j'utilise aussi casperJs pour monitorer des applis web (vérifier qu'après 
entrée du login/pass
on arrive sur une page qui contient ça et ça, ou que le SSO fonctionne et sinon 
dire à quelle
redirection il plante), ça marche bien (même si j'ai un peu de faux positifs, 
de temps en temps
il semble perdre ses petits, ou lire une info trop tôt malgré le wait).

Pour récupérer des infos sur une page (scraping), si y'a pas de js lynx ou wget 
me semblent
plus simples, mais ça dépend de ce qu'on veut récupérer (ça peut être plus 
simple avec
casperJs pour faire de la sélection façon css).



J'imagine qu'avec des outils de type "web développeur" qu'on trouve 
maintenant sur la plupart des navigateurs, on peut récupérer les 
requêtes (par exemple celle qui logue sur la livebox avec user/pwd), 
puis créer une petite application nodejs client (par exemple) ou tout 
simplement utiliser netcat pour émettre la même requête (tout en pensant 
sans doute à gérer le cookie de session etc.).
En bref, cela semble une bonne idée et ça fait longtemps que je pense à 
m'y mettre (par exemple pour se connecter automatiquement aux wifis 
style sfr fone etc.).

Ça fonctionnerait, non?

Re: Firefox is terug in Debian

[Wouter Verhelst]

On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 08:55:59AM +0100, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> On Thursday 10 Mar 2016 18:33 CET, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> 
> > Firefox is terug in Debian. Geweldig!
> > https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/firefox_45.0-1.html
> 
> Dat is in unstable. Gaat hij ook in Jessie komen?

Neen.

> Dan lopen we ook niet meer 7 releases achter. ;-)

De versie in stable is altijd een ESR-release die door Mozilla nog
ondersteund wordt...

-- 
< ron> I mean, the main *practical* problem with C++, is there's like a dozen
   people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules,
   and pretty much all of them are just lying to themselves too.
 -- #debian-devel, OFTC, 2016-02-12

cadaver vs davfs2 (vs nautilus) on servers without collection resource

[Wim Bertels]

Hallo,

i tried to connect to an https enabled dav server (that runs on
microsoft for synchronisation they suggest:
Allway Sync (http://www.allwaysync.com/)
BestSync (http://www.risefly.com/)
GoodSync (http://www.goodsync.com/))

* First use case: Nautilus
Fails, no folders found
* Second use case: cadaver
Fails at the first attempt, but works with the -t option
eg (cadaver -t https://site.here/hcwebdav/ )
Interesting message with the -t option:
"
Ignored error: /hcwebdav/ not WebDAV-enabled:
Did not find a collection resource.
"
* Third use case: davfs2
Seems to work, but when entering the directory it is empty, so useless,
no errors are given.

Questions:
* can you use cadaver in some way/workaround as a 'normal' mount point,
not having to use the cadaver interface?
* can you use commands like rsync, unison on a dav share?
* if cadaver works, is it possible to get davfs2 to work?

mvg,
Wim

Re: Sudo

[Curt]

On 2016-03-24, Stefan Monnier  wrote:
>
> So, it confirms my suspicion that "root login" is used to refer to
> a distinction that is pretty much irrelevant (tho I guess there is the
> fact the root access occurs via some other local user, so you get
> a tiny little bit of a trace).
>

http://www.linfo.org/root.html

 A critical means for preventing users from directly damaging Unix-like systems
 or increasing the vulnerability of such systems to damage by others is the
 avoidance of using the root account except when absolutely necessary, even by
 knowledgeable and experienced system administrators. That is, rather than
 routinely logging into the system as root, administrators should log in with
 their ordinary user accounts and then use commands, such as su, kdesu and sudo,
 that provide them with root privileges only as needed and without requiring a
 new login.

 For example, to become root with su merely requires typing

su

 at the command line (i.e., in the all-text mode), pressing the Enter key and
 supplying the root password. The account of the previous user can be returned
 to by pressing the Ctrl and d keys simultaneously or by typing the word exit
 and then pressing the Enter key. 


> Stefan "who usually uses `su -` but thinks of it as a `root login`"
>
>


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plutocratic capitalism. - Susan Sontag

Re: repositories frozen since Mar 20th?

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Meanwhile, the issue seems to be fixed. New packages appearing again in the
testing and sid repositories.

Regards,
jvp.

Re: clamav.securite.com no longer exists

[Arnaud Jacques / SecuriteInfo.com]

Hello,

The debian packages clamav-unofficial-sigs use an old script from 
sanesecurity.
I suggest to use this new script for this package :

https://github.com/extremeshok/clamav-unofficial-sigs

It is recommanded by sanesecurity itself :
http://sanesecurity.com/usage/linux-scripts/
and
http://lists.clamav.net/pipermail/clamav-users/2015-May/001521.html

-- 
Best regards,

Arnaud Jacques
SecuriteInfo.com

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