Re: [resolu][jessie 8.4]prompt grub après migration système simple disque vers raid1

[Christophe De Natale]

Le lundi 30 mai 2016 à 23:29 +0200, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :
> Le 30/05/2016 23:27, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :
> > Le 30/05/2016 21:17, Christophe De Natale a écrit :
> >> Le lundi 30 mai 2016 à 20:48 +0200, Christophe De Natale a écrit :
> >>> Bonsoir à vous,
> >
> > Bonsoir
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> J'ai tenté :
> >> ###
> >> grub> set root=(md0)
> >> grub> linux /grub/vmlinuz-... root=/dev/md0
> >> grub> initrd /boot/initrd.img-...
> >> grub> boot
> >> ###
> > [...]
> >
> > je pense que démarrer sur un live CD, monter les partitions à la main 
> > + chroot puis un grub-install comme proposé par Jean Michel me parait 
> > une bonne option.
> >
> live CD n'est pas nécessaire, le CD d'installation suffit.
> 
J'avais tenté "grub-install" sur /dev/sda mais échoué car :
"système de fichier non reconnu" alors que le hdd était membre du raid

Ce n'est pas grave et c'est ma faute, j'ai voulu prendre un raccourci
qui n'a fonctionné qu'à moitié car mis en place dans le speed
(construction du raid avec des disques déjà utilisés, sur un système
déjà existant puis déplacement du groupe de volume et oubli de certaines
manipulation).
Hier soir, un "dd" sur les trois disques afin de repartir sur du propre
et ce matin ré-installation.

Merci de m'avoir répondu et bonne journée.

Christophe

On the subject of GRSecurity patch to the Linux Kernel

[concernedfossdev]

To whom it may concern;

GRsecurity is preventing others from employing their rights under version 2 the 
GPL to redistribute (by threatening them with a non-renewal of a contract to 
recive this patch to the linux kernel.)
(GRsecurity is a derivative work of the linux kernel (it is a patch))

People who have dealt with them have attested to this fact:
https://www.reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction/comments/4grdtb/censorship_linux_developer_steals_page_from_randi/
"You will also lose the access to the patches in the form of grsec not renewing 
the contract.  
Also they've asked us (a Russian hosting company) for $17000+ a year for access 
their stable patches. $17k is quite a lot for us. A question about negotiating 
a lower price was completely ignored. Twice." -- fbt2lurker

And it is suggested to be the case here aswell:
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/4gxdlh/after_15_years_of_research_grsecuritys_rap_is_here/
"Do you work for some company that pays for Grsecurity? If so then would you 
kindly excersise the rights given to you by GPL and send me a tarball of all 
the latest patches and releases?" -- lolidaisuki
"sadly (for this case) no, i work in a human rights organization where we get 
the patches by a friendly and richer 3rd party of the same field. we made the 
compromise to that 3rd party to not distribute the patches outside and as we 
deal with some critical situations i cannot afford to compromise that even for 
the sake of gpl :/
the "dumber" version for unstable patches will make a big problem for several 
projects, i would keep an eye on them. this situation cannot be hold for a long 
time" -- disturbio



Is this not tortious interference, on grsecurity's (Brad Spengler) part, with 
the quazi-contractual relationship the sublicensee has with the original 
licensor?



(Also Note: the stable branch now contains features that will never make it to 
the "testing" branch, and are not allowed to be redistributed, per the scheme 
mentioned above (which has been successful: not one version of the stable 
branch has been released by anyone, even those asked to do so, since the scheme 
has been put in place (they say they cannot as they cannot lose access to the 
patch as that may cost the lives and freedom of activists in latin america)))
https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/726101158561882112
@xoreipeip @grsecurity they call it a "demo" version "20:14 < spender> what's 
in the public version is < 1/5th the size of the full version"
oreipeip @grsecurity "20:21 < spender> also it wouldn't be as fast as the 
commercial version [...] there are missing optimization passes"

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Network manager (again) Re:]

[Doug]

On 05/30/2016 05:08 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Monday 30 May 2016 22:49:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:

(Parlez-vois français, je parle le
français?)

My spell checker can't cope with French, and I'm a lousy typist.. :-(
parlez-vo*U*s français etc.

Lisi


Many word processors have French dictionaries. You have to set the 
language that you're going to write in, and then the spell checker 
should work.
If you don't use an international keyboard, however, you may have some 
fun with all the diacritical marks in the French language. The Compose
key will solve that problem, but it's just a bit clumsy for continuous 
writing in a foreign language. Just about all characters with diacritic 
marks are
obtainable by striking and letting go of the compose key* and then 
typing two characters. For instance, compose ' a  gives you á and
compose , c gives you ç. The character can be upper case, as in compose 
È. Works for other European languages also: Löffel, Straße. Also, currency

and degree symbols, etc.
*Compose key can be set in Linux as one of the non character keys, like 
right-alt, or if you have a Windows keyboard, the right Win key. Check

the keyboard setup in your Linux distro.

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Network manager (again) Re:]

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 30 May 2016 22:49:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> (Parlez-vois français, je parle le  
> français?)

My spell checker can't cope with French, and I'm a lousy typist.. :-(  
parlez-vo*U*s français etc.

Lisi

Re: Pour envoyer un SMS (ou un fax) depuis son IP :

[Francois Lafont]

Bonsoir,

On 30/05/2016 23:32, Ph. Gras wrote:

> il existe un paquet de tutos que j'ai vus sur le sujet, donc ce n'est pas une 
> ressource que je recherche.
> 
> Je dois créer un site Web de prise de commandes, donc ça c'est facile c'est 
> du formulaire tout bête.
> 
> Là où ça se complique, c'est la réception des commandes pour les traiter, 
> dans un environnement où
> il pourrait n'y avoir qu'un téléphone mobile, épluche pas forcément un 
> smartphone.
> 
> J'ai lu sur les tutos qu'une solution était de connecter son serveur / 
> ordinateur à un téléphone mobile,
> et de l'utiliser comme un périphérique.
> 
> Je ne pense pas pouvoir être dans une configuration où je pourrais me 
> connecter à un périphérique.
> 
> Pour les fax, j'ai l'impression que c'est un peu du pareil au même :
> http://www.telecom-sudparis.eu/s2ia/user/procacci/mailfax/hylafax-admin3002.html
> 
> Peut-on se passer du relais et envoyer ses données directement sur un numéro 
> de tel / mobile / fax ?

Je sais si ça répond vraiment à ta question mais par exemple si tu as un 
abonnement Free mobile,
Free met à disposition une API pour envoyer des SMS via une simple commande 
"curl". Tout se passe
comme si le SMS était envoyé par ton mobile téléphone Free. Il y a une option à 
activer au niveau
de son abonnement mobile. Je crois que tout est expliqué ici :

http://www.domotique-info.fr/2014/06/nouvelle-api-sms-chez-free/

-- 
François Lafont

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Network manager (again) Re:]

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 30 May 2016 22:49:52 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> "When I type "english" the spell-checker
> tries to correct to to "English", why?" I'd have known immediately what you
> meant.

correction:
"When I type "english" the spell-checker 
tries to correct IT to "English", why?" I'd have known immediately what you 
meant.

Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Network manager (again) Re:]

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 30 May 2016 20:35:40 Rodary Jacques wrote:
> Thank you, I didn't know. In French (I was careful
> here) languages' names and peoples' nationalities
> don't take a capital letter. But towns' and countries'
> names do of course.
>   Jacques
> P.S.:I still don't see where was the joke in my post,
> but never mind.

I couldn't make head or tail of what you were saying about *English* so 
decided that it was meant to be a joke.  You *were* trying to make a joke of 
it, of course.  If you had just said "When I type "english" the spell-checker 
tries to correct to to "English", why?" I'd have known immediately what you 
meant.

So:  I would have got that wrong in French (note the capital) too.  I thought 
that: Je suis Anglaise et je parle anglais, vous êtes Français et vous parlez 
français.  But you say that it is: Je suis anglaise et je parle anglais, vous 
êtes français et vous parlez français?  (Parlez-vois français, je parle le  
français?)

Lisi

Re: Why my Clamav still outdated?

[Hársfalvi Gábor]

Many Thanks! :)

2016-05-30 18:39 keltezéssel, Erwan David írta:

Le 30/05/2016 à 18:26, Hársfalvi Gábor a écrit :

Hi,

I have a fresh install with Debian Jessie with Clamav - and everytime
I launch clamtk and its manual database update I always get what you
look at my picture.

Please help me about updating.

Thanks.

You'll have the latest version (0.99.2) in jessie-proposed-updates

Pour envoyer un SMS (ou un fax) depuis son IP :

[Ph. Gras]

Bonsoir,

il existe un paquet de tutos que j'ai vus sur le sujet, donc ce n'est pas une 
ressource que je recherche.

Je dois créer un site Web de prise de commandes, donc ça c'est facile c'est du 
formulaire tout bête.

Là où ça se complique, c'est la réception des commandes pour les traiter, dans 
un environnement où
il pourrait n'y avoir qu'un téléphone mobile, épluche pas forcément un 
smartphone.

J'ai lu sur les tutos qu'une solution était de connecter son serveur / 
ordinateur à un téléphone mobile,
et de l'utiliser comme un périphérique.

Je ne pense pas pouvoir être dans une configuration où je pourrais me connecter 
à un périphérique.

Pour les fax, j'ai l'impression que c'est un peu du pareil au même :
http://www.telecom-sudparis.eu/s2ia/user/procacci/mailfax/hylafax-admin3002.html

Peut-on se passer du relais et envoyer ses données directement sur un numéro de 
tel / mobile / fax ?

D'avance, je vous remercie !

Ph. Gras

Re: [jessie 8.4]prompt grub après migration système simple disque vers raid1

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 30/05/2016 23:27, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Le 30/05/2016 21:17, Christophe De Natale a écrit :

Le lundi 30 mai 2016 à 20:48 +0200, Christophe De Natale a écrit :

Bonsoir à vous,


Bonsoir

[...]


J'ai tenté :
###
grub> set root=(md0)
grub> linux /grub/vmlinuz-... root=/dev/md0
grub> initrd /boot/initrd.img-...
grub> boot
###

[...]

je pense que démarrer sur un live CD, monter les partitions à la main 
+ chroot puis un grub-install comme proposé par Jean Michel me parait 
une bonne option.



live CD n'est pas nécessaire, le CD d'installation suffit.

--
Daniel

Re: [jessie 8.4]prompt grub après migration système simple disque vers raid1

[daniel huhardeaux]

Le 30/05/2016 21:17, Christophe De Natale a écrit :

Le lundi 30 mai 2016 à 20:48 +0200, Christophe De Natale a écrit :

Bonsoir à vous,


Bonsoir

[...]


J'ai tenté :
###
grub> set root=(md0)
grub> linux /grub/vmlinuz-... root=/dev/md0
grub> initrd /boot/initrd.img-...
grub> boot
###

[...]

je pense que démarrer sur un live CD, monter les partitions à la main + 
chroot puis un grub-install comme proposé par Jean Michel me parait une 
bonne option.


--
Daniel

Re: [jessie 8.4]prompt grub après migration système simple disque vers raid1

[Jean-Michel OLTRA]

Bonjour,


Le lundi 30 mai 2016, Christophe De Natale a écrit...


> Ma config de départ :
> #
> Device Boot   Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
> /dev/sda1  *   2048976895974848   476M 83 Linux
> /dev/sda2976896   4882431   3905536   1,9G 82 Linux swap /
> Solaris
> /dev/sda3   4882432 473632767 468750336 223,5G 8e Linux LVM
> #
> /dev/sda3 contenait un lv pour "/" et un pour "/home"

En raid1, j'ai 'Linux raid autodetect' chez moi comme type de partition.

> Et à l'arrivée :
> #
> root@DEBKVM01:/# df -h
> Sys. de fichiers Taille Utilisé Dispo Uti% Monté sur
> /dev/dm-0   23G1,7G   20G   8% /
> udev10M   0   10M   0% /dev
> tmpfs  1,6G8,7M  1,6G   1% /run
> tmpfs  4,0G   0  4,0G   0% /dev/shm
> tmpfs  5,0M   0  5,0M   0% /run/lock
> tmpfs  4,0G   0  4,0G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
> /dev/md0   453M 42M  384M  10% /boot
> /dev/mapper/lvm--pool-lvhome   188G6,9G  172G   4% /home
> tmpfs  800M   0  800M   0% /run/user/1000
> #


> J'ai attendu que le raid soit synchronisé et j'ai fait un
> "update-grub2" (sûrement ce qu'il ne fallait pas faire) qui m'a donné :
> #
> root@DEBKVM01:/# update-grub2

N'aurait il pas fallu faire `grub-install /dev/sda` (et/ou sdb)


-- 
jm

Re: Re: [deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk: Re: Network manager (again) Re:]

[Rodary Jacques]

Thank you, I didn't know. In French (I was careful 
here) languages' names and peoples' nationalities 
don't take a capital letter. But towns' and countries' 
names do of course.
Jacques
P.S.:I still don't see where was the joke in my post, 
but never mind.

Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

[deloptes]

Mostafa Shahverdy wrote:

> Hi everyone.
> 
> I have an ultra wide monitor that supports 2560x1080.
> While I have a Radeon 5450 graphic card, running Debian Sid, I only can
> get 1920x1080. I installed firmware-linux-nonfree to get it running. So
> why isn't my complete resolution listed? Also I experience some glitches
> while watching videos.
> 
> I have to mention that I can't install the proprietary driver from AMD
> website because of the following error:
> 
> 
> make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.5.0-2-amd64'
>   CC [M]  /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o
> /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
> ‘firegl_major_proc_read’:
> /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:634:9: error: void
> value not ignored as it ought to be
>  len = seq_printf(m, "%d\n", major);
>  ^
> /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function
> ‘KCL_fpu_save_init’:
> /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:6458:49: error:
> ‘XSTATE_FP’ undeclared (first use in this function)
>if (!(fpu->state.xsave.header.xfeatures & XSTATE_FP))
> 
> 

Why not try with older kernel that works with the driver?

regards

Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

[Mostafa Shahverdy]

> Try the ati package and if it fails or not, let's look into the contents of 
> the
> Xorg.0.log file of that again.
Sorry for the late reply, just got stuck into command line for a while,
because of some dependancy issues.
Again I used the xserver-xorg-video-ati package, It only gave me a black
screen. 

I attached the log file.
-- 
Regards,
Mostafa Shahverdy 
[56.144] (--) Log file renamed from 
"/home/mostafa/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.pid-1856.log" to 
"/home/mostafa/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log"
[56.144] 
X.Org X Server 1.18.3
Release Date: 2016-04-04
[56.144] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[56.144] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian
[56.144] Current Operating System: Linux debian 4.5.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 
4.5.4-1 (2016-05-16) x86_64
[56.144] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.5.0-2-amd64 
root=UUID=c4ab4daf-0aff-4dd5-a4a1-e9098803f0a6 ro quiet
[56.144] Build Date: 05 April 2016  07:00:43AM
[56.144] xorg-server 2:1.18.3-1 (http://www.debian.org/support) 
[56.144] Current version of pixman: 0.33.6
[56.144]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[56.144] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[56.144] (==) Log file: "/home/mostafa/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log", Time: 
Mon May 30 19:48:52 2016
[56.159] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[56.188] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[56.188] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[56.188] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[56.188] (**) |   |-->Monitor ""
[56.188] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[56.188] (==) Automatically adding devices
[56.188] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[56.188] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[56.188] (==) Max clients allowed: 256, resource mask: 0x1f
[56.188] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[56.188]Entry deleted from font path.
[56.189] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
built-ins
[56.189] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[56.189] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input 
devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.
[56.189] (II) Loader magic: 0x55da7651cdc0
[56.189] (II) Module ABI versions:
[56.189]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[56.189]X.Org Video Driver: 20.0
[56.189]X.Org XInput driver : 22.1
[56.189]X.Org Server Extension : 9.0
[56.190] (++) using VT number 2

[56.191] (II) systemd-logind: took control of session 
/org/freedesktop/login1/session/_32
[56.193] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[56.193] (II) systemd-logind: got fd for /dev/dri/card0 226:0 fd 9 paused 0
[56.197] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:68f9:1787:2291 rev 0, Mem @ 
0xe000/268435456, 0xfe8c/131072, I/O @ 0xb000/256, BIOS @ 
0x/131072
[56.197] (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[56.212] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
[56.215] (II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[56.215]compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 1.0.0
[56.215]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 9.0
[56.215] (==) AIGLX enabled
[56.215] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 0
[56.215] (==) Matched ati as autoconfigured driver 1
[56.215] (==) Matched modesetting as autoconfigured driver 2
[56.215] (==) Matched fbdev as autoconfigured driver 3
[56.215] (==) Matched vesa as autoconfigured driver 4
[56.215] (==) Assigned the driver to the xf86ConfigLayout
[56.215] (II) LoadModule: "ati"
[56.216] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ati_drv.so
[56.224] (II) Module ati: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[56.224]compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 7.7.0
[56.224]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[56.224]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[56.224] (II) LoadModule: "radeon"
[56.225] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so
[56.243] (II) Module radeon: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[56.243]compiled for 1.18.3, module version = 7.7.0
[56.243]Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[56.243]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 20.0
[56.243] (II) LoadModule: "modesetting"
[56.243] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/modesetting_drv.so

Re: [jessie 8.4]prompt grub après migration système simple disque vers raid1

[Christophe De Natale]

Le lundi 30 mai 2016 à 20:48 +0200, Christophe De Natale a écrit :
> Bonsoir à vous,
> 
> Je rencontre le problème suivant après avoir voulu transformer en raid1
> mon système qui était installé sur un seul disque dur.
> Je précise qu'à la fin de la procédure, le système a démarré en raid
> dégradé sur /dev/sdb , j'ai pu joindre /dev/sda à l'ensemble et accéder
> aux données.
> 
> Ma config de départ :
> #
> Device Boot   Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
> /dev/sda1  *   2048976895974848   476M 83 Linux
> /dev/sda2976896   4882431   3905536   1,9G 82 Linux swap /
> Solaris
> /dev/sda3   4882432 473632767 468750336 223,5G 8e Linux LVM
> #
> /dev/sda3 contenait un lv pour "/" et un pour "/home"
> 
> Et à l'arrivée :
> #
> root@DEBKVM01:/# df -h
> Sys. de fichiers Taille Utilisé Dispo Uti% Monté sur
> /dev/dm-0   23G1,7G   20G   8% /
> udev10M   0   10M   0% /dev
> tmpfs  1,6G8,7M  1,6G   1% /run
> tmpfs  4,0G   0  4,0G   0% /dev/shm
> tmpfs  5,0M   0  5,0M   0% /run/lock
> tmpfs  4,0G   0  4,0G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
> /dev/md0   453M 42M  384M  10% /boot
> /dev/mapper/lvm--pool-lvhome   188G6,9G  172G   4% /home
> tmpfs  800M   0  800M   0% /run/user/1000
> #
> 
> 
> J'ai attendu que le raid soit synchronisé et j'ai fait un
> "update-grub2" (sûrement ce qu'il ne fallait pas faire) qui m'a donné :
> #
> root@DEBKVM01:/# update-grub2
> Création du fichier de configuration GRUB…
> erreur : unknown LVM metadata header.
> /usr/sbin/grub-probe : attention : Impossible de trouver le volume
> physique « (null) ». Certains modules risquent de manquer dans l'image
> de base..
> erreur : unknown LVM metadata header.
> /usr/sbin/grub-probe : attention : Impossible de trouver le volume
> physique « (null) ». Certains modules risquent de manquer dans l'image
> de base..
> erreur : unknown LVM metadata header.
> #
> 
> 
> J'ai redémarré le serveur et bien entendu, j'arrive au prompt
> "grub" (pas "rescue"). Juste avant d'y parvenir, il y a ce message :
> error file '/grub/i386-pc/mdraid.mod' not found
> 
> grub> ls => affiche tous les volumes
> grub> ls (md/0)/ => affiche : lost+found/ sda1/ grub/
> 
> Voilà, je suis empêtré dans mon cafouillage (je pense avoir oublié de
> mettre à jour l'initramfs).
> 
> J'ai utilisé "system rescue-cd", tout est accessible mais pas moyen de
> tout remettre en ordre, si quelqu'un a une suggestion, je suis preneur.
> 
> Merci et bonne soirée,
> 
> Christophe

J'ai tenté :
###
grub> set root=(md0)
grub> linux /grub/vmlinuz-... root=/dev/md0
grub> initrd /boot/initrd.img-...
grub> boot
###

Le système entame sa procédure de chargement et bloque à :
random: nonblocking pool is initialized


Christophe

Re: Improper visuals after update

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Sun, 2016-05-29 at 21:38 +0200, Bhasker C V wrote:
> Hi,
> 
>   After an update I see that my dialog boxes are looking weird. I
> cannot
> describe it but it looks as-if the contrast is lost or the theme is
> not
> supported ? The boucing bars have gone missing but mouse over and
> clicks
> work. This is especially bad with nm-applet. I use mate desktop
> 
> If anyone knows please can they  tell me how to get this fixed ?
> 
> An example image is attached at https://unsee.cc/zisapuge/

I don't use Mate, so it's hard to say from the image what it is
supposed to look like. Are the fields for username and password not
rendered, no outlines around what I guess are buttons?

Anyway, some Googling suggests that new Mate packages that hit unstable
moved to GTK3, so that might result in some changes? Maybe the new
themes haven't been updated yet?


(If you are using unstable (that's a quite important detail to mention)
you need to read the NEWS and/or changelogs, be patient, and check your
logs to see what packages changed during the upgrade.)

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Re: RAID e LVM

[Caio Ferreira]

Adriano

Obrigado pela ajuda, funcionou.

> On May 25, 2016, at 6:05 PM, Adriano Rafael Gomes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 05:19:10PM -0300, Caio Ferreira wrote:
>> Aguém teria uma ideia de como fazer um teste em relação ao RAID 1?
> 
> Segue uma cópia das anotações que eu fiz quando estudei RAID 1. São de
> 2007, veja se ainda podem ser aplicadas:
> 
> Exibir o status do array:
> 
> cat /proc/mdstat
> 
> sudo mdadm --query --detail /dev/md0
> 
> Remover um disco hot-swap do array:
> 
> mdadm --set-faulty /dev/md0 /dev/sda1
> mdadm --set-faulty /dev/md1 /dev/sda2
> 
> mdadm --remove /dev/md0 /dev/sda1
> mdadm --remove /dev/md1 /dev/sda2
> 
> Para remover um disco não hot-swap não precisa rodar estes comandos
> acima, basta desligar o servidor e retirar o disco, e depois religar o
> servidor.
> 
> Re-adicionar um disco ao array:
> 
> mdadm --re-add /dev/md0 /dev/sda1
> mdadm --re-add /dev/md1 /dev/sda2
> 
> Adicionar um disco novo ao array:
> 
> sfdisk -d /dev/sda | sfdisk /dev/sdb
> 
> mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb1
> mdadm --zero-superblock /dev/sdb2
> 
> mdadm --add /dev/md0 /dev/sdb1
> mdadm --add /dev/md1 /dev/sdb2

[jessie 8.4]prompt grub après migration système simple disque vers raid1

[Christophe De Natale]

Bonsoir à vous,

Je rencontre le problème suivant après avoir voulu transformer en raid1
mon système qui était installé sur un seul disque dur.
Je précise qu'à la fin de la procédure, le système a démarré en raid
dégradé sur /dev/sdb , j'ai pu joindre /dev/sda à l'ensemble et accéder
aux données.

Ma config de départ :
#
Device Boot   Start   End   Sectors   Size Id Type
/dev/sda1  *   2048976895974848   476M 83 Linux
/dev/sda2976896   4882431   3905536   1,9G 82 Linux swap /
Solaris
/dev/sda3   4882432 473632767 468750336 223,5G 8e Linux LVM
#
/dev/sda3 contenait un lv pour "/" et un pour "/home"

Et à l'arrivée :
#
root@DEBKVM01:/# df -h
Sys. de fichiers Taille Utilisé Dispo Uti% Monté sur
/dev/dm-0   23G1,7G   20G   8% /
udev10M   0   10M   0% /dev
tmpfs  1,6G8,7M  1,6G   1% /run
tmpfs  4,0G   0  4,0G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs  5,0M   0  5,0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs  4,0G   0  4,0G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/md0   453M 42M  384M  10% /boot
/dev/mapper/lvm--pool-lvhome   188G6,9G  172G   4% /home
tmpfs  800M   0  800M   0% /run/user/1000
#


J'ai attendu que le raid soit synchronisé et j'ai fait un
"update-grub2" (sûrement ce qu'il ne fallait pas faire) qui m'a donné :
#
root@DEBKVM01:/# update-grub2
Création du fichier de configuration GRUB…
erreur : unknown LVM metadata header.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe : attention : Impossible de trouver le volume
physique « (null) ». Certains modules risquent de manquer dans l'image
de base..
erreur : unknown LVM metadata header.
/usr/sbin/grub-probe : attention : Impossible de trouver le volume
physique « (null) ». Certains modules risquent de manquer dans l'image
de base..
erreur : unknown LVM metadata header.
#


J'ai redémarré le serveur et bien entendu, j'arrive au prompt
"grub" (pas "rescue"). Juste avant d'y parvenir, il y a ce message :
error file '/grub/i386-pc/mdraid.mod' not found

grub> ls => affiche tous les volumes
grub> ls (md/0)/ => affiche : lost+found/ sda1/ grub/

Voilà, je suis empêtré dans mon cafouillage (je pense avoir oublié de
mettre à jour l'initramfs).

J'ai utilisé "system rescue-cd", tout est accessible mais pas moyen de
tout remettre en ordre, si quelqu'un a une suggestion, je suis preneur.

Merci et bonne soirée,

Christophe

Re: Debian refcard: call to update translation for Polish

[Marcin Kulisz]

On 2016-05-30 16:31:42, Holger Wansing wrote:
> Hi Marcin,

Hi,

> While the translation is completed so far, the proofreading was still not
> done.
> Maybe you could go to
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-polish/2016/05/msg8.html
> download the pdf I have attached there, and see if everything looks fine on
> the Polish refcard?
> That would be really fine.

I had a quick look (on my phone) at this pdf and it looks ok.

> Proofreading is indeed a good thing for starting with translation work :-)

I'm not planning long term involvement within translation team. Probably I can
help from time to time when other ppl are busy but not as a long term
commitment, sorry.
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Zabbix Frontend PHP on Debian / Ubuntu looks broken

[Martinx - ジェームズ]

Guys,

 I installed Zabbix Server and its PHP Frontend in an Ubuntu 16.04 box,
however, while trying to "Create host" to monitor it (that already have the
zabbix-agent installed), I'm seeing the following error:

"ERROR: Cannot add host, Incorrect arguments passed to function."

 Look what I found after researching about this:

---
 https://support.zabbix.com/browse/ZBX-9784

 "Gunars Pujats In Debian/Ubuntu repository Zabbix frontend is modified to
use jQuery and Prototype JS libraries from system (/usr/share/javascript).
That caused problem, because latest Prototype.js broke host edit form. Now
form is fixed and should work with latest Prototype.

Ivo Kurzemnieks Using other user-created packages, can result in unexpected
behaviour. Please, use offical packages. The prototype version we use is
1.6.1"
---

 Looks like that is is fixed upstream:

Fixed in:
 pre-2.4.8rc1 r58205
 pre-3.0.0rc1 (trunk) r58206

...But, both Debian and Ubuntu stable releases, doesn't contain the fix...
I would appreciate if someone cherrypick those changes.

 I'm trying to backport Zabbix 3.0.3 from SID to Xenial now, lets see...

Cheers!
Thiago

Re: Improper visuals after update

[Lisi Reisz]

On Monday 30 May 2016 18:05:51 Bhasker C V wrote:
> anyone ?

I, for one, can't make any sense of the visual you supplied and the message, 
so I just gave up.  Perhaps start again with explaining the problem?

Lisi
>
> On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Bhasker C V  wrote:
> > On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Ric Moore  wrote:
> >> On 05/29/2016 03:38 PM, Bhasker C V wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>>After an update I see that my dialog boxes are looking weird. I
> >>> cannot describe it but it looks as-if the contrast is lost or the theme
> >>> is not supported ? The boucing bars have gone missing but mouse over
> >>> and clicks work. This is especially bad with nm-applet. I use mate
> >>> desktop
> >>>
> >>> If anyone knows please can they  tell me how to get this fixed ?
> >>>
> >>> An example image is attached at https://unsee.cc/zisapuge/
> >>
> >> I'm running Sid and XFCE. My last updates pulled in a pile of Mate
> >> packages. I deleted them. Ric
> >
> > I somehow have a feeling that my theme is not getting rendered properly.
> > I created a brand-new user just to make sure that my home dir's earlier
> > files may not interfere with updates
> > The new user is also showing the same behaviour. Dialog boxes are not
> > rendered properly. gtk ones are the worst suffering.
> >
> >> --
> >> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> >> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> >> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> >> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> >> http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html

Re: RAID e LVM

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Wed, May 25, 2016, at 10:45, Guimarães Faria Corcete DUTRA, Leandro
wrote:
> 2016-05-24 20:31 GMT-03:00 Lucas Castro :
> > não seria interessante fazer uma RAID-10 como falou que quer fazer.
> > fica meio sem lógica fazer um stripping que ficará no mesmo disco.
> 
> Raid 10 com dois discos é apenas Raid 1.

Não no Linux.  E só vai ter o mesmo layout se usar o modo "n2" ("near",
2 cópias) do md-raid10 com dois dispositivos. Que, aliás, não é quase
nunca a melhor escolha para performance (pode ser a escolha mais segura
para a RAID de boot, entretanto).

Alguns casos específicos de topologia do md-raid10 serão idênticas às
topologias mais tradicionais, mas é só isso. Ou seja, RAID1 de dois
discos tem topologia equivalente ao md-raid10 n2 em 2 discos, mas a
*implementação* disso no Linux é diferente, e *não* se comporta da mesma
forma.

A diferença entre md-raid10 n2 com 2 discos (topologia idêntica do RAID1
tradicional) e md-raid1 com dois discos está em como múltiplos leitores
serão tratados pelo driver md:  md-raid1 usa no máximo um disco
componente por thread, limitando o throughput máximo ao de um único
dispositivo componente.  Já o md-raid10 irá fazer stripping do acesso
quando possível (e quase dobrar o throughput).

Ou seja, o md-raid1 "socializa" mais quando há mais de um processo
tentando acessar o disco, enquanto que o md-raid10 vai entregar >80% a
mais de throughput quando há só um processo tentando acessar o disco
(vai acessar todos os componentes em paralelo como se fosse uma raid0).

Em geral, para 2 discos, md-raid 1 << md-raid10 n2 << md-raid10 f2 em
matéria de performance com poucas threads (desktop normal). 

Faz uma diferença brutal dependendo do workload.  Para desktop, não
tenha dúvidas e vá de md-raid10 no caso do Linux, mesmo que seja só para
2 dispositivos (em SSD, use modo "near" ou "far". Em HDD, use modo
"far").  Lembrando que md-raid10 funciona com qualquer número de
dispositivos acima de 1, inclusive ímpares.

Num servidor com múltiplos acessos concorrentes, só testando: depende da
carga típica de trabalho.

Uso no meu desktop um md-raid10 f2 em 3 HDDs.  E sim, isso significa que
ele espalhou 2 cópias em 3 discos.  180% mais rápido que o disco sem
raid(!) ou em md-raid1, até mesmo para escrita (em arquivos grandes).  E
uns 300% mais rápido que o pior caso do md-raid5, já que raid10 nunca
incorre em RMW (read-modify-write para calcular a paridade).

Aliás, md-raid10 f2 em 2 SSDs te dá 99% da performance de leitura de
RAID0 entre os SSDs (na escrita fica em >85%), duplica os dados entre os
dois (proteção contra falha de 1 SSD), em troca de perder metade do
espaço (como era-se de esperar).  Só que um dos SSDs vai estar
"invertido" devido ao layout "far". 

Não sei porque o "far" é vantagem até em SSD, pela lógica não era para
fazer diferença nenhuma, pode ser um detalhe de implementação do
elevador de IO do Linux.  Mesmo que não houvesse diferença, ainda seria
uma boa usar o "far" porque vai garantir um regime de uso diferente
entre dois SSDs iguais, o que é sempre uma boa para tentar distanciar
uma eventual falha simultânea quando forem do mesmo lote.

> > se tiver grana pra adquirir mais um disco, RAID-5 é legal,

Mais ou menos.  RAID5 é bem mais perigoso que RAID1 e RAID10, tem uns
detalhes sórdidos, fora os tradicionais problemas de RMW, etc.  Mas
realmente sai bem mais "barato" em termos de "perda de espaço".

Por sinal, não utilize RAID5 para >8TB em discos com taxa de erro típica
(1E-14), e nem pensar se for >12TB, a chance de perda de dados durante o
rebuilt aproxima-se do evento certo.  Para isso existe RAID6.

PS: *cuidado* com o layout "offset" do md-raid10: pelo que me lembro,
ele pode gerar layouts com características peculiares e muitas vezes
indesejáveis...  desenhe o layout e verifique o que acontece em caso de
falha de 1 ou mais componentes, e compare com os outros layouts (near e
far).

> Com os preços de disco hoje, fica difícil justificar qualquer Raid que
> não seja o 10 a menos que haja baixa carga de escrita, rotina de
> cópias de segurança muito bem ajustada e alta tolerância a
> indisponibilidade e lentidão.

Concordo.

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Re: Improper visuals after update

[Bhasker C V]

anyone ?

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Bhasker C V  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Ric Moore  wrote:
>
>> On 05/29/2016 03:38 PM, Bhasker C V wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>After an update I see that my dialog boxes are looking weird. I
>>> cannot describe it but it looks as-if the contrast is lost or the theme
>>> is not supported ? The boucing bars have gone missing but mouse over and
>>> clicks work. This is especially bad with nm-applet. I use mate desktop
>>>
>>> If anyone knows please can they  tell me how to get this fixed ?
>>>
>>> An example image is attached at https://unsee.cc/zisapuge/
>>>
>> I'm running Sid and XFCE. My last updates pulled in a pile of Mate
>> packages. I deleted them. Ric
>>
> I somehow have a feeling that my theme is not getting rendered properly.
> I created a brand-new user just to make sure that my home dir's earlier
> files may not interfere with updates
> The new user is also showing the same behaviour. Dialog boxes are not
> rendered properly. gtk ones are the worst suffering.
>
>>
>> --
>> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
>> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
>> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
>> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
>> http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
>>
>>
>

Re: Why my Clamav still outdated?

[Erwan David]

Le 30/05/2016 à 18:26, Hársfalvi Gábor a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> I have a fresh install with Debian Jessie with Clamav - and everytime
> I launch clamtk and its manual database update I always get what you
> look at my picture.
>
> Please help me about updating.
>
> Thanks.

You'll have the latest version (0.99.2) in jessie-proposed-updates

Why my Clamav still outdated?

[Hársfalvi Gábor]

Hi,

I have a fresh install with Debian Jessie with Clamav - and everytime I 
launch clamtk and its manual database update I always get what you look 
at my picture.


Please help me about updating.

Thanks.

Re: soucis pour installer teamviewer 11 sur amd64 ( debian stretch)

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Mon, 30 May 2016 17:30:31 +0200,
steve  a écrit :

> Salut Bernard,
> 
> C'est un problème d'architecture.
> 
> Essaie avec
> 
> http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb
> 
> (pris ici: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/ )
> 
> c'est une version aussi pour le multiarch 64 bits, contrairement à ce
> que le nom pourrait laisser supposer.
> 

bonjour,

merci pour le lien et j'ai ajoûté i386 comme architecture et tout 
roule ...

merci pour fredéric massot ...

slt
bernard

Re: soucis pour installer teamviewer 11 sur amd64 ( debian stretch)

[Frédéric MASSOT]

Le 30/05/2016 17:23, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> bonjour,
> 
> j'ai dû réinstaller ma debian suite au passage de version de texlive
> qui m'a tout bloqué ...
> 
> maintenant j'ezssaye d'installer teamviewer11 pour amd64 et j'ai une
> erreur : 
> 
> gdebi teamviewer_11.0.57095_amd64.deb
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> Ce paquet ne peut pas être installé
> Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32asound2
> 
> comment pouvoir trouver ce foutu paquet ?

Tu peux regarder le paragraphe "Notes to Multiarch:" sur la page
https://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx

Il est indiquer d'ajouter l’architecture i386 : dpkg --add-architecture
i386



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Re: soucis pour installer teamviewer 11 sur amd64 ( debian stretch)

[steve]

Salut Bernard,

C'est un problème d'architecture.

Essaie avec

http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb

(pris ici: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/ )

c'est une version aussi pour le multiarch 64 bits, contrairement à ce
que le nom pourrait laisser supposer.

Re: Ouverture dans Firefox d'une page cliquée sur Icedove

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Mon, 30 May 2016 17:11:55 +0200,
Francois Mescam  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Avec les réglages que j'ai fait quand dans Icedove je clique sur un
> lien la page correspondante est affichée par Firefox.
> 
> Ceci fonctionnait correctement jusqu'à il y a 2 ou 3 semaines.
> 
> Maintenant cela fonctionne pour certains liens et pas pour d'autres. 
> Quand un lien ne marche pas c'est permanent, de même s'il fonctionne.
> Un copier/coller vers Firefox d'un lien qui ne fonctionne pas permet 
> d'afficher la page.
> 
> Je n'ai pas vu de bug relatif à cela.
> J'ai pensé à adblock, je l'ai désactivé dans Icedove et dans Firefox, 
> cela ne change rien.
> 
> Quelqu'un a observé le même problème et mieux il a une
> solution/explication.
> 
> 

bonjour,

est ce que (version?) icedove à été mis à jour récement ?

slt
bernard

soucis pour installer teamviewer 11 sur amd64 ( debian stretch)

[Bernard Schoenacker]

bonjour,

j'ai dû réinstaller ma debian suite au passage de version de texlive
qui m'a tout bloqué ...

maintenant j'ezssaye d'installer teamviewer11 pour amd64 et j'ai une
erreur : 

gdebi teamviewer_11.0.57095_amd64.deb
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading state information... Done
Ce paquet ne peut pas être installé
Dependency is not satisfiable: lib32asound2

comment pouvoir trouver ce foutu paquet ?



slt
bernard

Ouverture dans Firefox d'une page cliquée sur Icedove

[Francois Mescam]

Bonjour,

Avec les réglages que j'ai fait quand dans Icedove je clique sur un lien 
la page correspondante est affichée par Firefox.


Ceci fonctionnait correctement jusqu'à il y a 2 ou 3 semaines.

Maintenant cela fonctionne pour certains liens et pas pour d'autres. 
Quand un lien ne marche pas c'est permanent, de même s'il fonctionne. Un 
copier/coller vers Firefox d'un lien qui ne fonctionne pas permet 
d'afficher la page.


Je n'ai pas vu de bug relatif à cela.
J'ai pensé à adblock, je l'ai désactivé dans Icedove et dans Firefox, 
cela ne change rien.


Quelqu'un a observé le même problème et mieux il a une solution/explication.


--
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Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

[ I'm sending this also to the debian user list if you don't mind. ]

Mostafa Shahverdy wrote on 05/30/16 15:52:
>> which package for the graphic adapter did you install.
> I only installed firmware-linux-nonfree.
> I tried installing xserver-xorg-video-radeon, but It couldn't load X
> windows after rebooting, so I had to remove it.

But xserver-xorg-video-radeon would be the right driver to use. Now you're using
the much simpler vesa driver.

The Xorg.0.log file shows that X is searching for the ati driver (package
xserver-xorg-video-ati) which will then use the radeon driver from the
xserver-xorg-video-radeon package.
Try the ati package and if it fails or not, let's look into the contents of the
Xorg.0.log file of that again.


>> Could you show us the contents of your Xorg.0.log (either
>> ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log)?
> I'm attaching the file, as it has more than 1000 rows.
>>
>> How is the monitor connected to the computer (VGA, HDMI, Display Port, ..)?
> Currently I am using an HDMI cable, but I also can use DVI, which
> currently gives me glitchy screen. When I use DVI cable I can see
> 20560x1080 listed, but when I switch to it, I experience very pool
> quality of screen (something like old analogue TVs)
>
Let's look at this further after trying xserver-xorg-video-ati.

Regards,
jvp.

Re: Debian refcard: call to update translation for Polish

[Holger Wansing]

Hi Marcin,

Tomasz Nitecki  wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> On 30/05/16 09:50, Marcin Kulisz wrote:
> > 
> > I never did any translations (in Debian) thus I'm not sure where to start 
> > with
> > this bu I think I could help if I only knew which 12 strings require
> > translating :-)
> > If you could point me to the line from which should I start I'm pretty sure 
> > I
> > can sort it out pretty quickly.
> 
> It was already translated... twice ;)
> You can check out details at debian-l10n-polish mailing list [1].
> 
> [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-polish/2016/05/threads.html

While the translation is completed so far, the proofreading was still not
done.
Maybe you could go to
https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-polish/2016/05/msg8.html
download the pdf I have attached there, and see if everything looks fine on
the Polish refcard?
That would be really fine.

Proofreading is indeed a good thing for starting with translation work :-)



Holger


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Re: [deb-cat] Tot el programari 'empotrat'

[tictacbum]

potser t'interessa això:
http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/Isenkram_with_PackageKit_support___new_version_0_23_available_in_Debian_unstable.html

"a database of mappings between hardware and packages, and pop up a dialog
suggesting for the user to install the packages to use a given hardware
dongle"

El dia 30 de maig de 2016, 11:15, Xavi Drudis Ferran  ha
escrit:

> El Sun, May 29, 2016 at 09:27:43PM +0200, Narcis Garcia deia:
> > Què passa si a un ordinador li instal·lo tots els paquets firmware-* que
> > hi ha als diferents repositoris de Debian 8?
> >
>
> Que tindras un tros més de disc dur ple. També tindras el risc que
> associïs a programari privatiu, si els "diferents repositoris" inclou
> non-free.
>
> També podria passar, però això és hipotètic i se suposa que no hauria
> de passar, que el sistema confongui un dispositiu per un altre, li
> carregui el firmware que no toqui i deixi de funcionar. I llavors
> sense el paquet de firmware igual va. Però és molt hipotètic, si
> passés això, s'informaria un bug i es miraria d'arreglar. No pressuposaria
> que passen aquestes coses.
>
> > Funcionaran automàticament els dispositius associats quan es connectin?
>
> Sí, depén del dispositiu. Però en general és possible. També necessitaras
> els mòduls del nucli, que si tens el nucli normal ja potser hi són,
> potser programes d'usuari... És que és una pregunta molt genèrica, no ?
>
> Jo crec que en general facilitar que els dispositius funcionin tan bon punt
> es connecten és un objectiu de totes les distribucions, cadascuna amb les
> restriccions que tingui. Vull dir que en general hauria de funcionar i
> en concret amb maquinari molt tancat, o massa nou o vés a saber, doncs
> poden caler més coses o no acabar funcionant. Va cas per cas.
>
> > Implica una major càrrega del nucli o de processos?
>
> No, en principi el nucli només carrega en memòria el firmware per
> copiar-lo al dispositiu i després possiblement el treu de memòria. O
> bé quan arrenca o bé quan detecta esdeveniments de connexió i
> desconnexió deu mirar si coneix el maquinari nou, cridar els
> controladors que tingui i, si un controlador creu que necessita
> firmware, el busca al directori on l'ha deixat el paquet i si el troba
> el copia cap al dispositiu i segueix la inicialització.
>
> Això sí, com més dispositius funcionen en principi més possible
> càrrega, sobre tot si els fas servir, però no crec que això ho vegis
> com un problema.
>
> Si el nucli està desbinariat (deblobbed) és possible que per comptes de
> carregar el firmware tregui un missatge al log. O és possible que el
> carregui si és algun dels pocs firmwares lliures.
>
> No sé si firmware està molt ben definit o quina acepció exacta usa
> debian en la nomenclatura de paquets, però en principi és codi que
> s'executa a processadors que no són la CPU que executa el nucli linux,
> sinó control·ladors de dispositius diversos. Un ordinador actual no és
> com un ordinador clàssic de llibre amb una CPU, una memòria i línies
> d'E/S, és més com una xarxa local d'un munt de CPUs amb memòria pròpia
> o compartida, intercanviant dades i missatgeria per busos. La tarja de
> xarxa porta un processador, el disc dur un altre, la targeta gràfica
> no sé quants, els xips d'entrada/sortida o els troços del propi xip on
> hi ha la CPU tenen més processadors per gestionar protocols, interrupcions
> i mandanganes, n'hi ha per tot arreu. I últimament hi ha CPUs que vigilen
> que les altres CPUs no facin coses que algú que no coneixes en un despatx
> remot no vol que facin... Cadascun executa els seus programets
> o programassos. N'hi ha que els porten enregistrats en ROMs pròpies i n'hi
> ha
> que carreguen els programes des de la CPU principal, que els acaba llegint
> de ROMs o, si hi ha el paquet de firmware instal·lat, del disc dur.
>
> Llavors dubto que els paquets de firmware puguin carregar el sistema
> perquè el programari que porten no s'executa sobre la CPU principal
> (bé el microcodi de la CPU sí, però t'hauries de mirar la CPU
> principal com un processador emulat per una CPU VLIW que executa el
> microcodi, massa complicat, deixem-ho). Seria si de cas en el cas
> d'algun dispositiu que fa servir firmware diferent en diferents
> moments i el nucli ha d'anar canviant-lo, però sembla estrany.  Els
> dispositius quan funcionen també poden iniciar moviments de dades per
> busos que enlenteixin l'accés de la CPU a dades i per tant el
> rendiment general, però forma part de l'operativa del dispositiu.  I
> en tot cas si no ho fa segurament el dispositiu no funcionarà i si
> vols que funcioni, doncs la miqueta de càrrega l'hauràs d'assumir, no?
>
>

Bluetooth não localizado no debian 8

[Anderson Gusm@o]

Pessoal, podem me ajudar, pois o bluetooth não está sendo ativado. Como
fazer?
abraços

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Re: How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Hi,

Mostafa Shahverdy wrote on 05/30/16 15:23:
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I have an ultra wide monitor that supports 2560x1080. 
> While I have a Radeon 5450 graphic card, running Debian Sid, I only can get 
> 1920x1080. 
> I installed firmware-linux-nonfree to get it running. So why isn't my 
> complete resolution listed?
> Also I experience some glitches while watching videos.
> 

which package for the graphic adapter did you install.
Could you show us the contents of your Xorg.0.log (either
~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log or /var/log/Xorg.0.log)?

How is the monitor connected to the computer (VGA, HDMI, Display Port, ..)?

Regards,
jvp.

How to properly install Radeon drivers for Sid

[Mostafa Shahverdy]

Hi everyone.

I have an ultra wide monitor that supports 2560x1080. 
While I have a Radeon 5450 graphic card, running Debian Sid, I only can get 
1920x1080. 
I installed firmware-linux-nonfree to get it running. So why isn't my complete 
resolution listed?
Also I experience some glitches while watching videos.

I have to mention that I can't install the proprietary driver from AMD website 
because of the following error:


make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/linux-headers-4.5.0-2-amd64'
  CC [M]  /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.o
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function 
‘firegl_major_proc_read’:
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:634:9: error: void value 
not ignored as it ought to be
 len = seq_printf(m, "%d\n", major);
 ^
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c: In function 
‘KCL_fpu_save_init’:
/lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/2.6.x/firegl_public.c:6458:49: error: 
‘XSTATE_FP’ undeclared (first use in this function)
   if (!(fpu->state.xsave.header.xfeatures & XSTATE_FP))


-- 
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Impression en double ou triple

[Sylvain Schneider (ML)]

Bonjour à tous,

Sous Debian testing et avec une imprimante Brother HL3170CDW qui 
fonctionne très bien la plupart du temps... je rencontre à nouveau des 
problèmes d'impression de manière ponctuelle :


De temps en temps, elle se met à imprimer en double (voir même en 
triple). Apparemment, ce serait lorsqu'un collègue lance une impression 
multiple, comme si elle conservait en mémoire la quantité désirée, et 
que lorsque je lance un impression en un unique exemplaire, mon PC ne 
lui transmettait pas l'information.


Est ce que vous auriez des piste de réflexion (mis à par changer 
l'imprimante tout de suite ^_^) pour éviter ce générateur de papier 
brouillon ?


Merci

Sylvain

Re: Gnome top bar clock

[Stephen Allen]

On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 07:07:03AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2016-05-29, Stephen Allen  wrote:
> > On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:16:50PM +0200, Hársfalvi Gábor wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> 
> >> Is there any way to move the clock on the bar top on the screen? For 
> >> example
> >> from center to left side.
> >> 
> >> Thanks.
> >
> > If you look on extensions.gnome.org you might find an extension to do
> > this. I'm not sure. The Gnome UI is mostly CSS and javascript FWIU
> > however I have no idea of which property to alter. Gnome has an email
> > list might find some pointers there, if no extension can be found.
> >
> >
> 
> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/2/move-clock/
> 
> seems to fit the bill (though I believe Sven already mentioned this).

Yes he did, unfortunately didn't read his reply prior to responding.

Re: [deb-cat] Tot el programari 'empotrat'

[Xavi Drudis Ferran]

El Sun, May 29, 2016 at 09:27:43PM +0200, Narcis Garcia deia:
> Què passa si a un ordinador li instal·lo tots els paquets firmware-* que
> hi ha als diferents repositoris de Debian 8?
>

Que tindras un tros més de disc dur ple. També tindras el risc que 
associïs a programari privatiu, si els "diferents repositoris" inclou non-free.
 
També podria passar, però això és hipotètic i se suposa que no hauria
de passar, que el sistema confongui un dispositiu per un altre, li
carregui el firmware que no toqui i deixi de funcionar. I llavors
sense el paquet de firmware igual va. Però és molt hipotètic, si
passés això, s'informaria un bug i es miraria d'arreglar. No pressuposaria
que passen aquestes coses.

> Funcionaran automàticament els dispositius associats quan es connectin?

Sí, depén del dispositiu. Però en general és possible. També necessitaras
els mòduls del nucli, que si tens el nucli normal ja potser hi són, 
potser programes d'usuari... És que és una pregunta molt genèrica, no ? 

Jo crec que en general facilitar que els dispositius funcionin tan bon punt
es connecten és un objectiu de totes les distribucions, cadascuna amb les
restriccions que tingui. Vull dir que en general hauria de funcionar i 
en concret amb maquinari molt tancat, o massa nou o vés a saber, doncs 
poden caler més coses o no acabar funcionant. Va cas per cas.

> Implica una major càrrega del nucli o de processos?

No, en principi el nucli només carrega en memòria el firmware per
copiar-lo al dispositiu i després possiblement el treu de memòria. O
bé quan arrenca o bé quan detecta esdeveniments de connexió i
desconnexió deu mirar si coneix el maquinari nou, cridar els
controladors que tingui i, si un controlador creu que necessita
firmware, el busca al directori on l'ha deixat el paquet i si el troba
el copia cap al dispositiu i segueix la inicialització.

Això sí, com més dispositius funcionen en principi més possible
càrrega, sobre tot si els fas servir, però no crec que això ho vegis
com un problema.

Si el nucli està desbinariat (deblobbed) és possible que per comptes de 
carregar el firmware tregui un missatge al log. O és possible que el 
carregui si és algun dels pocs firmwares lliures.

No sé si firmware està molt ben definit o quina acepció exacta usa
debian en la nomenclatura de paquets, però en principi és codi que
s'executa a processadors que no són la CPU que executa el nucli linux,
sinó control·ladors de dispositius diversos. Un ordinador actual no és
com un ordinador clàssic de llibre amb una CPU, una memòria i línies
d'E/S, és més com una xarxa local d'un munt de CPUs amb memòria pròpia
o compartida, intercanviant dades i missatgeria per busos. La tarja de
xarxa porta un processador, el disc dur un altre, la targeta gràfica
no sé quants, els xips d'entrada/sortida o els troços del propi xip on
hi ha la CPU tenen més processadors per gestionar protocols, interrupcions
i mandanganes, n'hi ha per tot arreu. I últimament hi ha CPUs que vigilen
que les altres CPUs no facin coses que algú que no coneixes en un despatx 
remot no vol que facin... Cadascun executa els seus programets
o programassos. N'hi ha que els porten enregistrats en ROMs pròpies i n'hi ha 
que carreguen els programes des de la CPU principal, que els acaba llegint 
de ROMs o, si hi ha el paquet de firmware instal·lat, del disc dur. 

Llavors dubto que els paquets de firmware puguin carregar el sistema
perquè el programari que porten no s'executa sobre la CPU principal
(bé el microcodi de la CPU sí, però t'hauries de mirar la CPU
principal com un processador emulat per una CPU VLIW que executa el
microcodi, massa complicat, deixem-ho). Seria si de cas en el cas
d'algun dispositiu que fa servir firmware diferent en diferents
moments i el nucli ha d'anar canviant-lo, però sembla estrany.  Els
dispositius quan funcionen també poden iniciar moviments de dades per
busos que enlenteixin l'accés de la CPU a dades i per tant el
rendiment general, però forma part de l'operativa del dispositiu.  I
en tot cas si no ho fa segurament el dispositiu no funcionarà i si
vols que funcioni, doncs la miqueta de càrrega l'hauràs d'assumir, no?

Re: Gnome top bar clock

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 27 May 2016 14:24:31 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 27 May 2016 14:16:50 Hársfalvi Gábor wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Is there any way to move the clock on the bar top on the screen? For
> > example from center to left side.
>
> What desktop??  Or is it a window manager?  I seem to remember that you are
> running Gnome3 on Jessie, but you really need to say so when you ask this
> type of question.
>
> In TDE 3.5.13.2 on Wheezy, and TDE 14.0.4 on Jessie, you click just to the
> left of the clock applet to bring up a small window which offers, among
> other things, to move the clock.  You choose "move the clock" and move it.
>
> Lisi

MEA CULPA. "Re: Gnome top bar clock"

Lisi

Re: Debian refcard: call to update translation for Polish

[Tomasz Nitecki]

Hey,

On 30/05/16 09:50, Marcin Kulisz wrote:
> 
> I never did any translations (in Debian) thus I'm not sure where to start with
> this bu I think I could help if I only knew which 12 strings require
> translating :-)
> If you could point me to the line from which should I start I'm pretty sure I
> can sort it out pretty quickly.

It was already translated... twice ;)
You can check out details at debian-l10n-polish mailing list [1].

[1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-l10n-polish/2016/05/threads.html


> Pointer to the docs about translations syntax and procedures would be
> beneficial as well.

I do have those two [2][3] (hopefully) helpful urls bookmarked. While
the refcard translation is already updated, there are quite a few other
packages that need an update [4].

[2] https://www.debian.org/international/Polish/
[3]
https://raphaelhertzog.com/2012/01/31/contributing-to-the-translation-of-debian/
[4] https://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/pl


Regards,
T.




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Re: Debian refcard: call to update translation for Polish

[Marcin Kulisz]

On 2016-05-27 20:54:26, Holger Wansing wrote:

snip

>   That's only 12 short strings to translate for Polish, so not much work!
>   And not that difficult... ]

Holger,
I never did any translations (in Debian) thus I'm not sure where to start with
this bu I think I could help if I only knew which 12 strings require
translating :-)
If you could point me to the line from which should I start I'm pretty sure I
can sort it out pretty quickly.

Pointer to the docs about translations syntax and procedures would be
beneficial as well.
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Re: Improper visuals after update

[Bhasker C V]

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 10:47 PM, Ric Moore  wrote:

> On 05/29/2016 03:38 PM, Bhasker C V wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>After an update I see that my dialog boxes are looking weird. I
>> cannot describe it but it looks as-if the contrast is lost or the theme
>> is not supported ? The boucing bars have gone missing but mouse over and
>> clicks work. This is especially bad with nm-applet. I use mate desktop
>>
>> If anyone knows please can they  tell me how to get this fixed ?
>>
>> An example image is attached at https://unsee.cc/zisapuge/
>>
> I'm running Sid and XFCE. My last updates pulled in a pile of Mate
> packages. I deleted them. Ric
>
I somehow have a feeling that my theme is not getting rendered properly.
I created a brand-new user just to make sure that my home dir's earlier
files may not interfere with updates
The new user is also showing the same behaviour. Dialog boxes are not
rendered properly. gtk ones are the worst suffering.

>
> --
> My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
> "There are two Great Sins in the world...
> ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
> Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad.
> http://linuxcounter.net/user/44256.html
>
>

Re: Synaptics et double tap

[Fabrice Regnier]

'lut,

> Et peut-on mettre ça dans un fichier de conf du système et non dans
> un fichier attaché à un utilisateur ?
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-libinput.conf ?

Du coup, tu n'utiliseras plus explicitement la commande xinput.

a+

f.

Re: Synaptics et double tap

[Fabrice Regnier]

'lut,

> Et peut-on mettre ça dans un fichier de conf du système et non dans
> un fichier attaché à un utilisateur ?
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/60-libinput.conf ?

Du coup, tu n'utiliseras plus explicitement la commande xinput.

a+

f.

Re: Gnome top bar clock

[Curt]

On 2016-05-29, Stephen Allen  wrote:
> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 03:16:50PM +0200, Hársfalvi Gábor wrote:
>> Hi!
>> 
>> Is there any way to move the clock on the bar top on the screen? For example
>> from center to left side.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>
> If you look on extensions.gnome.org you might find an extension to do
> this. I'm not sure. The Gnome UI is mostly CSS and javascript FWIU
> however I have no idea of which property to alter. Gnome has an email
> list might find some pointers there, if no extension can be found.
>
>

https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/2/move-clock/

seems to fit the bill (though I believe Sven already mentioned this).

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