Re: Projetor Acer C120

[Gustavo Soares]

Precisa que faça qual parte?

Em sex, 24 de jun de 2016 20:32, Leonardo Rocha 
escreveu:

> Amig@s, boa noite!
>
> estou com um desafio nas mãos. Estou com um mini projetor da Acer, um
> C120 com conxão via porta USB e desejo fazê-lo funcionar no Debian
> testing. Alguém tem alguma idéia de documentação ou já fez isso alguma vez?
>
> Encontrei essas informações:
>
> https://ao2.it/en/news/2015/07/08/linux-kms-driver-acer-c120
>
> https://github.com/slavrn/gm12u320
>
> Agradeço.
>
> --
> Leonardo Rocha
> 4096R/7E7D1FE2
> about.me/leonardo.rocha
>
>

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

[Jape Person]

Hi, Matthias.

Just in case you haven't subscribed to the list, I'm writing 
back to let you know another person besides confirmed that she 
is seeing this problem. Unless she used BCC she doesn't seem to 
have copied you. That's the norm for this list. It's just easier 
to subscribe in order to get all of the responses. You can 
easily unsubscribe -- if you so desire -- at any time.


I checked the Debian bug tracker.

https://www.debian.org/Bugs

There are a couple of bug reports listed for this version of 
Icedove that seem as though they may be about this problem we're 
seeing. I think the attempt to find the cause and a solution are 
in very early stages.


If you wish to help you could try reading the information at

https://wiki.debian.org/Icedove#Debugging

and using the information provided there to collect some data on 
your system. I intend to try it tomorrow -- if I get a chance.


I've got a very busy life right now. The bug isn't causing data 
loss on my systems, so it doesn't have a really high priority 
for me.


But I wanted you to know that the maintainers do seem to be 
aware of the problem and are looking into it. The more people 
like us help them, the quicker the problem might be resolved.


Best regards,
JP

Re: determine /dev/pts/1 in .xsession

[David Wright]

On Fri 24 Jun 2016 at 13:13:22 (-0700), Mike McClain wrote:
> I open several aps in .xsession, a couple of xterms, clock, iceweasel.
> The first in .xsession is an xterm I use for command line stuff.
> This xterm is seldom at any one pts but rather moves around. Is there
> a way to tell X to always open that xterm on /dev/pts/1?

If I start all 23 of my xterms in one go, things get in a mess.
They're meant to be distributed across 20 pages of an fvwm desktop.
So I start them (and the other apps) with
xtoolwait -timeout 15 xterm ...

Because xtoolwait waits for each window to be mapped on its
appropriate page, the numbering is predictable. It does start,
however, at 0, not 1.

But you have to go back to squeeze to find the xtoolwait package.
It's a mere 12626 bytes. I don't know why it was dropped.

Cheers,
David.

javascript

[Shannon Price):]

Shannon price :)

Re: Re: Encontro Comunitário - FISL17

[Pessoal]

Sera aqui.
17º Fórum Internacional de Software Livre
13 a 16 de Julho de 2016 Centro de Eventos PUCRS | Porto Alegre | RS | Brasil 
-- 
Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.On 24/06/2016, 21:54 Giovani Ferreira  wrote:

  


On 24-06-2016 20:41, Paulo wrote:
> Olá,
>
> Poderia ter colocado aonde será a FISL17, (Cidade, Estado, Endereço), pois quantas salas 41E devem existir ??
>
> Abraços,
>
> Paulo
>
>
Desculpe pelo lapso, Paulo.
A final de contas ninguém é obrigado a saber o que é o FISL. :-)

O 17º Fórum Internacional Software Livre acontecerá de 13 a 16 de julho de 2016 no centro de eventos da PUCRS em Porto Alegre/RS.

Mais informações: http://softwarelivre.org/fisl17/

[]'s

--
Giovani Ferreira
http://softwarelivre.org/jova2
0x78494EF72375A66C

  

Re: Encontro Comunitário - FISL17

[Giovani Ferreira]

On 24-06-2016 20:41, Paulo wrote:
> Olá,
>
> Poderia ter colocado aonde será a FISL17, (Cidade, Estado, Endereço), pois 
> quantas salas 41E devem existir ??
>
> Abraços,
>
> Paulo
>
>
Desculpe pelo lapso, Paulo.
A final de contas ninguém é obrigado a saber o que é o FISL. :-)

O 17º Fórum Internacional Software Livre acontecerá de 13 a 16 de julho de 2016 
no centro de eventos da PUCRS em Porto Alegre/RS.

Mais informações: http://softwarelivre.org/fisl17/

[]'s

-- 
Giovani Ferreira
http://softwarelivre.org/jova2
0x78494EF72375A66C

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

[Jape Person]

On 06/24/2016 07:19 PM, Maureen L Thomas wrote:

Hi guys,

  I have noticed the same thing.  As I am going through emails and
putting them in the folders I want It will just close out.  It only
happens once in a while though so I didn't think much or it.

Moe


Hi, Moe.

I found what appears to be this same issue reported in the bug 
tracker. It doesn't seem that much headway is being made.


If you look at

https://wiki.debian.org/Icedove#Debugging

you can see the steps necessary to gather information for a bug 
report of this type.


If I become a bit more public-spirited and can get a bit of free 
time this weekend, I'll give it a whirl.


I've lost no data when the client closes, so I haven't paid as 
much attention as I would otherwise.


Thanks for chiming in!

I'm not sure that Matthias (originator of thread) will get your 
message. Apparently, he's not subscribed to debian-user.


Best regards,
JP

Re: DupeGure o archivos duplicados

[limpia]

Buenos tarde otra vez,..
Si, es una opcione,


y...  ¿tu leíste la última línea de la página cuyo enlace dejaste?



No en cualquiera de Ubuntu, Arch o Gentoo?

Si no puede instalar cualquiera de los archivos de pre-envasados, 
siempre se puede construir aplicaciones del SA de la fuente (un enlace 
al código fuente de cada aplicación está presente en su página 
respectiva).

==
Pero el no quire usarlo el comando de linea,.. y no se
como puede construir una aplicacione, si no lo uso.
 Eso es la problema.

On 2016-06-24 16:46, Juan Lavieri wrote:

Hola.


El 24-06-2016 a las 05:21 p.m., Marcelo Giordano escribió:

Hola amigos:

Estoy queriendo borrar archivos duplicados en mi linux y encuentro el 
software DupeGure pero me sale que el repositorio es una ppa y tengo 
entendido que no es compatible con debian. Acá las instrucciones


https://www.hardcoded.net/linux_notes

quiero que me ayuden a instalarlo o si no a encontrar alguna 
aplicación que sea gráfica y no por línea de comandos ya que son 
muchos


y...  ¿tu leíste la última línea de la página cuyo enlace dejaste?



Estuve queriendo usar fdupes pero no pude encontrar la opción para que 
no me tome un directorio en las comparaciones.


Quedo a la espera.

Muchas gracias



Saludos.

Saludos,
de "limpia"

Re: DupeGure o archivos duplicados

[limpia]

Yo encuentro eso en los Debian Repositorios,

fdupes
identifica los archivos duplicados dentro de los directorios dados
Fdupes utiliza md5sums y luego un byte a byte de comparación para 
encontrar
archivos duplicados dentro de un conjunto de directorios. Tiene varias 
útil

opciones, incluyendo la recursividad.
==
 Pero, eso es una grande problema "no por línea de comandos",
 es mejor con la linea de comando, y ya si tiene mucho mas opciones
cuando usarlo el linea de comandos,...
 No es buen idea para usarlo este " DupeGure pero me sale que el 
repositorio es una ppa ",

Lo leer la enlace, y es mas para ubuntu, Debian no es como Ubuntu

https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

Apena es en engles,egual que la otra, pero puede
traducirlo con google,

Tambien es eso, y es en los Debian Repos:
"fslint"
===

FSlint es un conjunto de herramientas para limpiar la pelusa del sistema 
de ficheros. Incluye una interfaz gráfica de usuario GTK +
así como una interfaz de línea de comandos y se puede utilizar para 
recuperar espacio en disco.
Cuenta con una interfaz para la desinstalación de paquetes, y se puede 
encontrar cosas como:


- Los archivos duplicados
- nombres de archivos problemáticos
- Archivos temporales
- Bad enlaces simbólicos
- Los directorios vacíos
- binarios Nonstripped
=
 Desculpe, no me di cuenta:

Estuve queriendo usar fdupes pero no pude encontrar la opción para que
no me tome un directorio en las comparaciones.

 De eso, bueno, tal vez no te sierve "fdupes",..
 pero en todos modos, no es buen idea para usarlos
"ppa's".


On 2016-06-24 16:21, Marcelo Giordano wrote:

Hola amigos:

Estoy queriendo borrar archivos duplicados en mi linux y encuentro el
software DupeGure pero me sale que el repositorio es una ppa y tengo
entendido que no es compatible con debian. Acá las instrucciones

https://www.hardcoded.net/linux_notes

quiero que me ayuden a instalarlo o si no a encontrar alguna
aplicación que sea gráfica y no por línea de comandos ya que son
muchos

Estuve queriendo usar fdupes pero no pude encontrar la opción para que
no me tome un directorio en las comparaciones.

Quedo a la espera.

Muchas gracias


--
Spanish Forum:
http://www.garryricketsonartworks.org/Debian-spanish/index.php

determine /dev/pts/1 in .xsession

[Mike McClain]

I open several aps in .xsession, a couple of xterms, clock, iceweasel.
The first in .xsession is an xterm I use for command line stuff.
This xterm is seldom at any one pts but rather moves around. Is there
a way to tell X to always open that xterm on /dev/pts/1?
Thanks,
Mike
--
During the month of August 2014 it was reported that 7 Israelis
died in combat while 2100 residents in Gaza died.
With a 300::1 kill ratio who are the terrorists?

Re: Encontro Comunitário - FISL17

[Paulo]

Olá,

Poderia ter colocado aonde será a FISL17, (Cidade, Estado, Endereço), 
pois quantas salas 41E devem existir ??


Abraços,

Paulo

Em 22/06/2016 23:12, Giovani Ferreira escreveu:

Olá a todos,

Realizaremos um encontro da comunidade Debian durante o FISL17, será dia
16/07 às 11:00 na sala 41E.

Para a organização dos temas que serão tratados durante o encontro, está
disponível um pad para que todos possam colocar ideias para serem
debatidas. O documento está disponível em: 
https://pad.riseup.net/p/encontro-debian-fisl17

Esta atividade terá transmissão ao vivo, portanto será possível
participar através do IRC, canal #debian-br em irc.oftc.net.

Contamos com a participação de todos!

[]'s

Projetor Acer C120

[Leonardo Rocha]

Amig@s, boa noite!

estou com um desafio nas mãos. Estou com um mini projetor da Acer, um
C120 com conxão via porta USB e desejo fazê-lo funcionar no Debian
testing. Alguém tem alguma idéia de documentação ou já fez isso alguma vez?

Encontrei essas informações:

https://ao2.it/en/news/2015/07/08/linux-kms-driver-acer-c120

https://github.com/slavrn/gm12u320

Agradeço.

-- 
Leonardo Rocha
4096R/7E7D1FE2
about.me/leonardo.rocha

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

[Maureen L Thomas]

Hi guys,

 I have noticed the same thing.  As I am going through emails and 
putting them in the folders I want It will just close out.  It only 
happens once in a while though so I didn't think much or it.


Moe


On 06/24/2016 06:50 PM, Jape Person wrote:

On 06/24/2016 06:11 PM, Matthias J. Sax wrote:

Hi,

I am new to Debian mailing-list (and also not subscribed -- please
answer directly to me if you need more input).

I am using

$ uname -a
Linux XXX 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08)
x86_64 GNU/Linux

After the last update, Icedove (v45.1.0) crashed regularly.

Please let me know, what information I need to provide such that you can
track the problem.

Thanks!

-Matthias


Hello, Matthias.

I'm replying directly to you as well as sending to debian-user. Though 
it's not necessary, you may want to subscribe to the list temporarily 
-- just to make sure you receive all replies to your question. I can 
almost guarantee that not everyone will reply to you off-list.


Also, please do not reply directly to me, but only to the list. I will 
see you reply, and so will other people who may be better able to help 
than I.


My only contribution, so far, is to say that I'm seeing the same issue 
on the new version of Icedove (45.1.0). My system is running Stretch --


$ uname -a
Linux wiz 4.6.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.6.1-1 (2016-06-06) x86_64 
GNU/Linux


I am only seeing Icedove close when I am in the process of reading 
messages. Furthermore, it happens only when I am using an arrow key or 
the mouse to select the next message to read. It doesn't happen when 
I'm using the integrated calendar (iceowl-extension), creating events, 
sending mail, creating filters, etc. It only happens when I'm 
progressing through a list of e-mails, reading them.


If you can tell us whether or not you have noticed any particular 
action that might precipitate the crash, that may be helpful. This is 
only happening occasionally with my systems, so you may have to watch 
for a while.


I'm seeing nothing in logs, so far.

Good luck!

JP

Re: Icedove crashes after recent update

[Jape Person]

On 06/24/2016 06:11 PM, Matthias J. Sax wrote:

Hi,

I am new to Debian mailing-list (and also not subscribed -- please
answer directly to me if you need more input).

I am using

$ uname -a
Linux XXX 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08)
x86_64 GNU/Linux

After the last update, Icedove (v45.1.0) crashed regularly.

Please let me know, what information I need to provide such that you can
track the problem.

Thanks!

-Matthias


Hello, Matthias.

I'm replying directly to you as well as sending to debian-user. 
Though it's not necessary, you may want to subscribe to the list 
temporarily -- just to make sure you receive all replies to your 
question. I can almost guarantee that not everyone will reply to 
you off-list.


Also, please do not reply directly to me, but only to the list. 
I will see you reply, and so will other people who may be better 
able to help than I.


My only contribution, so far, is to say that I'm seeing the same 
issue on the new version of Icedove (45.1.0). My system is 
running Stretch --


$ uname -a
Linux wiz 4.6.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.6.1-1 (2016-06-06) 
x86_64 GNU/Linux


I am only seeing Icedove close when I am in the process of 
reading messages. Furthermore, it happens only when I am using 
an arrow key or the mouse to select the next message to read. It 
doesn't happen when I'm using the integrated calendar 
(iceowl-extension), creating events, sending mail, creating 
filters, etc. It only happens when I'm progressing through a 
list of e-mails, reading them.


If you can tell us whether or not you have noticed any 
particular action that might precipitate the crash, that may be 
helpful. This is only happening occasionally with my systems, so 
you may have to watch for a while.


I'm seeing nothing in logs, so far.

Good luck!

JP

Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Steve McIntyre]

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 06:22:37PM -0400, Jeffrey Mark Siskind wrote:
>Please note that bootint with rootdelay=20 does not solve the problem. It only
>masks it.
>
> 1. If I attempt a fresh USB install of jessie, when md0 is correctly built
>before the install, the process of doing the fresh install breaks
>md0. When it gets to grub install, components of md0 are missing (even
>though all six components were present before the install). And
>grub-install fails. At this point it is impossible to complete the install
>and produce a bootable system.
>
> 2. If I do a fresh minimal USB install of wheezy, rebuilding md0 in the
>process, and then do a dist-upgrade to jessie, I can manually add
>rootdelay=20 in grub and boot into jessie with all six components of md0
>present. But if I do so, then after boot, if I do dpkg-reconfigure pc-grub,
>doing that gives errors, drops components of md0, precludes me from adding
>them back, fails to install grub, and leaves the machine in an unbootable
>state.
>
>I fear that there is a problem writing to disk. Even if I boot with
>rootdelay=20, unless the kind of writes that dpkg-reconfigure pc-grub does are
>different, doing ordinary writes to disk may also corrupt the disk.
>
>Please let me know what new information you would like me to gather.

Ummm. Checking back up-thread, I can see that you're using md0 across
more than 4 disks and you're trying to boot off it with
grub-pc. You're hitting BIOS limitations here - the BIOS is only
capable of accessing 4 disks. I'm *guessing* that maybe the newer grub
in jessie is just being pickier about checking BIOS access to those
disks. Try just using 4 of the disks for md0, and I'd expect it to
work.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
"Arguing that you don't care about the right to privacy because you have
 nothing to hide is no different than saying you don't care about free
 speech because you have nothing to say."
   -- Edward Snowden

Re: jessie won't install/boot on a Dell Poweredge R815

[Jeffrey Mark Siskind]

Please note that bootint with rootdelay=20 does not solve the problem. It only
masks it.

 1. If I attempt a fresh USB install of jessie, when md0 is correctly built
before the install, the process of doing the fresh install breaks
md0. When it gets to grub install, components of md0 are missing (even
though all six components were present before the install). And
grub-install fails. At this point it is impossible to complete the install
and produce a bootable system.

 2. If I do a fresh minimal USB install of wheezy, rebuilding md0 in the
process, and then do a dist-upgrade to jessie, I can manually add
rootdelay=20 in grub and boot into jessie with all six components of md0
present. But if I do so, then after boot, if I do dpkg-reconfigure pc-grub,
doing that gives errors, drops components of md0, precludes me from adding
them back, fails to install grub, and leaves the machine in an unbootable
state.

I fear that there is a problem writing to disk. Even if I boot with
rootdelay=20, unless the kind of writes that dpkg-reconfigure pc-grub does are
different, doing ordinary writes to disk may also corrupt the disk.

Please let me know what new information you would like me to gather.

Jeff (http://engineering.purdue.edu/~qobi)

Icedove crashes after recent update

[Matthias J. Sax]

Hi,

I am new to Debian mailing-list (and also not subscribed -- please
answer directly to me if you need more input).

I am using

$ uname -a
Linux XXX 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08)
x86_64 GNU/Linux

After the last update, Icedove (v45.1.0) crashed regularly.

Please let me know, what information I need to provide such that you can
track the problem.

Thanks!

-Matthias



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Re: DupeGure o archivos duplicados

[Juan Lavieri]

Hola.


El 24-06-2016 a las 05:21 p.m., Marcelo Giordano escribió:

Hola amigos:

Estoy queriendo borrar archivos duplicados en mi linux y encuentro el 
software DupeGure pero me sale que el repositorio es una ppa y tengo 
entendido que no es compatible con debian. Acá las instrucciones


https://www.hardcoded.net/linux_notes

quiero que me ayuden a instalarlo o si no a encontrar alguna 
aplicación que sea gráfica y no por línea de comandos ya que son muchos


y...  ¿tu leíste la última línea de la página cuyo enlace dejaste?



Estuve queriendo usar fdupes pero no pude encontrar la opción para que 
no me tome un directorio en las comparaciones.


Quedo a la espera.

Muchas gracias



Saludos.

--
Juan M Lavieri

Errar es de humanos, pero es mas humano culpar a los demás.

Re: Firefox

[Yannick]

Le 24/06/2016 à 22:57, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
> Le Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:53:28 +0200
> Yannick  a écrit:
> 
>> Bonsoir,
>>
>> J'ai un petit souci avec Firefox 45.2.0
>> Sous Iceweasel je pouvais dire à la réouverture de Firefox de rouvrir
>> les onglets de la précédente session.
>>
>> Je n'arrive pas à trouver cette possibilité dans la nouvelle version!
>>
>> Merci de me donner le lien qui doit me permettre de réactiver cette
>> possibilité qui m'est très utile.
>>
>> Amitiés
>>
> 
> Salut,
> 
> ça n'a pourtant pas changé entre iceweasel et firefox. ;) Gros boutons
> "restauré session précédente" en bas le page d'accueil firefox ou bouton menu
> (à droite en haut, celui avec les 3 barres horizontales), puis Historique et
> restaurer session précédente.
> 
> Gaëtan
> 
> 
Bonsoir Gaëtan,

Je dois être miro car pas de bouton menu. Dans le menu Historique ce
n'est pas actif non plus.

J'ai trouvé un truc mais qui ne me plaît pas du tout, désolé mais je
suis exigeant! Pour la page de démarrage lister les adresses des onglets
que l'on veut séparées par |

Je voudrais restaurer la session précédente ET avoir une page d'accueil
lorsque j'ouvre une nouvelle fenêtre.

Il ne me dit même plus quand je ferme violemment l'ordi qu'il y a eut un
problème et ne propose plus de rouvrir les onglets/fenêtres de la
session précédente.

Amitiés

-- 
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Nul n'a droit au superflu tant que chacun n'a pas son nécessaire
(Camille JOUFFRAY 1841-1924, maire de Vienne)
http://www.voyeaud.org
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Journées du Logiciel Libre: http://jdll.org
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DupeGure o archivos duplicados

[Marcelo Giordano]

Hola amigos:

Estoy queriendo borrar archivos duplicados en mi linux y encuentro el 
software DupeGure pero me sale que el repositorio es una ppa y tengo 
entendido que no es compatible con debian. Acá las instrucciones


https://www.hardcoded.net/linux_notes

quiero que me ayuden a instalarlo o si no a encontrar alguna aplicación 
que sea gráfica y no por línea de comandos ya que son muchos


Estuve queriendo usar fdupes pero no pude encontrar la opción para que 
no me tome un directorio en las comparaciones.


Quedo a la espera.

Muchas gracias

Re: Stretch, Radeon 4850, and backlight

[James Lay]

On Fri, 2016-06-24 at 16:23 +0200, Sven Arvidsson wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 15:49 -0600, James Lay wrote:
> > 
> > And after hooking up a second monitor it indeeds defaults to that
> > second monitor after running:
> > modprobe radeon modeset=1
> > Now..I do I tell the driver which monitor to use?  Thank you.
> Great! There's probably a bug somewhere, or that particular hardware
> should have some sort of quirk to enable the primary monitor, but I'm
> not sure what component the bug should be filed against.
> 
> 
> I haven't tried this myself, but it looks like you should be able to
> force the primary display on (and the secondary off) during
> modesetting:
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Forcing_mode
> s_and_EDID
> 
> You can also do something similar in the Xorg configuration.
> 
Thanks...looks like this is kernel+hardware issue.  I get the same
results with Ubuntu 16.04, but not Ubuntu 14.04, which was a 3.x
kernel.
James

Re: Firefox

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Le Fri, 24 Jun 2016 22:53:28 +0200
Yannick  a écrit:

> Bonsoir,
> 
> J'ai un petit souci avec Firefox 45.2.0
> Sous Iceweasel je pouvais dire à la réouverture de Firefox de rouvrir
> les onglets de la précédente session.
> 
> Je n'arrive pas à trouver cette possibilité dans la nouvelle version!
> 
> Merci de me donner le lien qui doit me permettre de réactiver cette
> possibilité qui m'est très utile.
> 
> Amitiés
> 

Salut,

ça n'a pourtant pas changé entre iceweasel et firefox. ;) Gros boutons
"restauré session précédente" en bas le page d'accueil firefox ou bouton menu
(à droite en haut, celui avec les 3 barres horizontales), puis Historique et
restaurer session précédente.

Gaëtan

Re: Firefox

[humbert . olivier . 1]

> J'ai un petit souci avec Firefox 45.2.0
> Sous Iceweasel je pouvais dire à la réouverture de Firefox de rouvrir
> les onglets de la précédente session.
> 
> Je n'arrive pas à trouver cette possibilité dans la nouvelle version!
> 
> Merci de me donner le lien qui doit me permettre de réactiver cette
> possibilité qui m'est très utile.

Dans la barre d'adresse : about:preferences
-> Général
-> Au démarrage de Firefox :
choisir "Afficher les derniers onglets et fenêtres utilisés"

En espérant que ça aide.

Firefox

[Yannick]

Bonsoir,

J'ai un petit souci avec Firefox 45.2.0
Sous Iceweasel je pouvais dire à la réouverture de Firefox de rouvrir
les onglets de la précédente session.

Je n'arrive pas à trouver cette possibilité dans la nouvelle version!

Merci de me donner le lien qui doit me permettre de réactiver cette
possibilité qui m'est très utile.

Amitiés

-- 
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(Camille JOUFFRAY 1841-1924, maire de Vienne)
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Re: ¿ot?desplazamiento con la rueda del mouse al revés [arreglado]

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El vie, 24-06-2016 a las 17:04 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> El mié, 22-06-2016 a las 13:31 +, Camaleón escribió:
> > El Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:05:06 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> > 
> > > Holas, tengo stretch recién actualizado linux 4.6.0-1-amd64 gnome
> > > 3.20.2
> > > 
> > > y mi problema es que la rueda del mouse anda para atrás.
> > 
> > Será una rueda-cangrejo :-)
> > 
> > > Es decir, si yo estoy leyendo un texto, llego al final y con la
> > > rueda
> > > solía mover el dedo abajo entonces el texto subía y podía seguir
> > > leyendo. Si quería volver sobre algo la giraba hacia arriba.
> > > Ahora
> > > funciona exactamente al revés.
> > 
> > Caray... estos de gnome se están pasando un pelín. 
> > 
> > Prueba a desactivar todas esas cosas novedosas que hay en la 
> > configuración del touchpad/ratón y déjalo lo más aséptico posible 
> > (desplazamiento con dos dedos, desplazamiento natural... todo 
> > desactivado), aunque sea un ratón y no un touchpad esta
> > configuración 
> > podría afectar al comportamiento de la rueda si no la detecta 
> > correctamente.
> > 
> pues nada, tenía desactivado el desplazamiento natural. Lo activé, no
> hubo cambios, reinicié el gnome por las dudas, no hubo cambios. 
> Lo dejé desactivado, probar, reiniciar el entorno, probar de nuevo.
> Igual
> 
> No tengo opciones de touchpad, porque no tengo uno.
> 

me quedé con la sangre en el ojo y justo hoy tengo un poco de tiempo
para investigar. 
Me puse a buscar con el regedit de gnome (p.e. editor de dconf) y en
/org/gnome/desktop/peripherals/touchpad/natural-scroll estaba en true.
Doble click y se arregló

Insisto: no tengo touchpad, es una pc de escritorio de las de toda la
vida

offtopic: Y también sigo sin ver porque esconder las opciones en
lugares tan escondidos es considerado "fácil", especialmente a la hora
de arreglar las cosas que complican la existencia, como decidir que la
rueda del mouse ande al revés
> 
> > > Perdón por la forma pero no se me ocurre como describir esto de
> > > otra
> > > manera, por eso no puedo encontrar alguien que le haya pasado lo
> > > mismo y
> > > lo haya resuelto (incluso probé mouse scroll backwards pero lo
> > > único que
> > > encuentro es gente con touchpad que no les funciona bien-no tengo
> > > touchpad, solo el mouse ps/2 con ruedita de casi toda la vida)
> > > ¿alguno de ustedes ya tuvo un comportamiento así?. Si ya se, debo
> > > borrar
> > > el gnome, pero no tengo tiempo y casi que me acostumbré
> > 
> > El sentimiento de borrar GNOME lo comparto, y mira que le me digo
> > "dale 
> > tiempo, dale tiempo..." pues no hay manera, no hay dios que lo
> > entienda.
> > 
> > Saludos,
> > 
> 

Re: ¿ot?desplazamiento con la rueda del mouse al revés

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El mié, 22-06-2016 a las 13:31 +, Camaleón escribió:
> El Tue, 21 Jun 2016 18:05:06 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió:
> 
> > Holas, tengo stretch recién actualizado linux 4.6.0-1-amd64 gnome
> > 3.20.2
> > 
> > y mi problema es que la rueda del mouse anda para atrás.
> 
> Será una rueda-cangrejo :-)
> 
> > Es decir, si yo estoy leyendo un texto, llego al final y con la
> > rueda
> > solía mover el dedo abajo entonces el texto subía y podía seguir
> > leyendo. Si quería volver sobre algo la giraba hacia arriba. Ahora
> > funciona exactamente al revés.
> 
> Caray... estos de gnome se están pasando un pelín. 
> 
> Prueba a desactivar todas esas cosas novedosas que hay en la 
> configuración del touchpad/ratón y déjalo lo más aséptico posible 
> (desplazamiento con dos dedos, desplazamiento natural... todo 
> desactivado), aunque sea un ratón y no un touchpad esta
> configuración 
> podría afectar al comportamiento de la rueda si no la detecta 
> correctamente.
> 
pues nada, tenía desactivado el desplazamiento natural. Lo activé, no
hubo cambios, reinicié el gnome por las dudas, no hubo cambios. 
Lo dejé desactivado, probar, reiniciar el entorno, probar de nuevo.
Igual

No tengo opciones de touchpad, porque no tengo uno.




> > Perdón por la forma pero no se me ocurre como describir esto de
> > otra
> > manera, por eso no puedo encontrar alguien que le haya pasado lo
> > mismo y
> > lo haya resuelto (incluso probé mouse scroll backwards pero lo
> > único que
> > encuentro es gente con touchpad que no les funciona bien-no tengo
> > touchpad, solo el mouse ps/2 con ruedita de casi toda la vida)
> > ¿alguno de ustedes ya tuvo un comportamiento así?. Si ya se, debo
> > borrar
> > el gnome, pero no tengo tiempo y casi que me acostumbré
> 
> El sentimiento de borrar GNOME lo comparto, y mira que le me digo
> "dale 
> tiempo, dale tiempo..." pues no hay manera, no hay dios que lo
> entienda.
> 
> Saludos,
> 

Re: rsync deletion target files

[Dominique Dumont]

On Friday 24 June 2016 21:10:35 Dominique Dumont wrote:
> I have tested though.

Oops, my bad: I have NOT tested the options I suggested. 

Sorry about the confusion

All the best
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Re: rsync deletion target files

[Dominique Dumont]

On Friday 03 June 2016 18:41:42 Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>  $ rsync --dry-run -vrt --delete --modify-window=1 Mail News howto ...
> /mnt/pendrive/rodolfo

May be 
  rsync --dry-run -vrt --delete-excluded --delete --exclude '*' \
 --include 'Mail|News|howto' /mnt/pendrive/rodolfo

Theoretically, the 2 options exclude all files except the ones matching the 
include pattern. I have tested though.

HTH

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Re: flashplayer et Linux

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Oui c'est une question d'affichage. Le but de pepperfalsh est de fournir le
plugin flash. Donc il est affiché en tant que tel dans firefox.

Par contre l'affichage du numéro de version est assez hasardeux. Sur une
machine ça fonctionne bien sur une autre il reste bloqué à la première version
de pepperflash que j'ai installé. Il m'affiche 20.0.0.306 alors que c'est flash
22.0.0.192 (confirmé par clic droit sur une appli flash).

De même update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --status est folklorique. Ce soir il
me disait:
Flash Player version installed on this system  : 21.0.0.242
Flash Player version available on upstream site: 21.0.0.216

mais sachant qu'une version plus récente existait j'ai fait un --install et
maintenant il m'affiche:
Flash Player version installed on this system  : 22.0.0.192
Flash Player version available on upstream site: 21.0.0.216

Bref tout ça n'est pas encore bien au point...

Gaëtan

Le Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:40:50 +0200 (CEST)
Jean Bernon  a écrit:

> J'ai la même impression qu'Eric. Shockwave Flash est l'habillage de
> pepper... et d'ailleurs quand je change de version de pepper... je vois le
> numéro de version se répercuter dans le shockwave de Firefox. Par exemple
> pour l'instant mon plugin affiché dans Firefox est Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0,
> exactement la même que dans Chromium qui d'ailleurs affiche lui aussi comme
> nom de plugin "Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0" et précise son
> emplacement /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so (voir
> mon message précédent). 
> 
> - Mail original -
> 
> > De: "Eric Degenetais" 
> > À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> > Cc: "ML Debian User French" 
> > Envoyé: Jeudi 23 Juin 2016 17:10:51
> > Objet: Re: flashplayer et Linux
> 
> > J'ai l'impression qu'il s'agit juste d'affichage, le wrapper affiche
> > pepper en tant que "Shockwave Flash". Peut-être qu'il affiche le
> > Flash
> > d'origine comme Shockwave Flash également...
> > __
> > Éric Dégenètais
> > Henix
> 
> > http://www.henix.com
> > http://www.squashtest.org
> 
> > Le 23 juin 2016 à 15:13,  a écrit :
> > > On Thursday 23 June 2016 14:23:46 Gaëtan Perrier wrote:
> > >> Mais il n'y a jamais de pepperflashplugin dans Firefox.
> > >> Il y a juste Shockwave Flash ...
> > >
> > > Oui mais pourquoi ?
> > >
> > > Tous les deux sont des plugins et pourquoi l'un a le privilège
> > > de figurer dans les plugins de Firefox et pas l'autre ?
> > >
> > > André
> > >

Re: Neomutt packages available

[Stephen Allen]

On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 06:02:43PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> * Stephen Allen  [2016-06-24 11:28 -0400]:
 
 
> > I was going to install it, then noticed your note that it will remove
> > exiting mutt etc. packages. Why? I don't want that kind of behaviour,
> > unless I'm missing something and they can't be on the same system
> > together?
> 
> Neomutt is the same as pristine mutt but patched with features like
> sidebar, notmuch, indexcolor etc. So you can either use neomutt or
> the Debian mutt/mutt-patched. The executable binary is /usr/bin/mutt
> in both cases. If you want to switch back to Debian mutt you have to
> remove/purge neomutt-common first as the mutt package has no Replace
> yet.
> 
> Your configuration can stay as it is, though. Maybe you want to
> configure the neomutt features with some customized rc-files
> documented in /usr/share/doc/neomutt-common/examples.
> 
> So there is nothing magic with neomutt at all..

Except it has many patches installed that the mutt maintainers didn't
wish to add, for whatever reasons. I get it, thanks. I'll wait until it
has 'replace' and is in Debian. I was following the discussion on
develop previously and in that post someone  mentioned the package was ready
for Download, and I had scratched my head trying to find your link. Then
I saw this post in 'user'. :-)

Re: Repositorio offline

[Flavio Menezes dos Reis]

A melhor forma que achei para ter um repositório off-line e ainda
disponilizar na rede local se for preciso foi com o apt-mirror.


Em 23 de junho de 2016 12:14, Fred Maranhão 
escreveu:

> 2016-06-23 10:21 GMT-03:00 Manoel Araujo :
> > Sim as imagens estão montadas. Eu consigo instalar os pacotes a partir
> dos
> > DVDs. O problema são as mensagens de erros que surge depois que rodo o
> apt
> > get update.
> >
> > Em quinta-feira, 23 de junho de 2016, Fred Maranhão
> >  escreveu:
> >>
> >> as imagens de dvd estao montadas? diga aí o retorno do comando mount
>
> diga aí o retorno do comando mount
>
>


-- 
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Analista de Informática
Seção de Infraestrutura de Rede - Assessoria de Informática
Procuradoria-Geral do Estado do RS
(51) 3288 1764

Re: Encontro Comunitário - FISL17

[Flavio Menezes dos Reis]

Estarei lá!

Em 24 de junho de 2016 11:19, Giovani Ferreira 
escreveu:

>
>
> On 23-06-2016 10:54, Marcos Egito - Gmail wrote:
> > Obrigado Giovana!
> > Eu estarei por la, vou ver a possibilidade de participar, aproveito a
> oportunidade, queria ver a possibilidade da comunidade fazer algo junto com
> o GT-Educação e o GT-Robótica, se não possível este ano mais irmos pensando
> para os próximos!
>
> É uma ótima ideia, para este ano eu não consigo ver algo para
> trabalharmos, mas imagino que podemos iniciar uma discussão sobre este
> tema.
>
>
> []'s
>
> --
> Giovani Ferreira
> http://softwarelivre.org/jova2
> 0x78494EF72375A66C
>
>


-- 
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Analista de Informática
Seção de Infraestrutura de Rede - Assessoria de Informática
Procuradoria-Geral do Estado do RS
(51) 3288 1764

Re: rsync deletion target files

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 6/24/16, Cindy-Sue Causey  wrote:
> On 6/3/16, Rodolfo Medina  wrote:
>> rsync's `--delete' option works fine when the target directory is the
>> same
>> as
>> the sender one.  In the following example, I'm sending all the content of
>> /home/rodolfo from machine1 to /home/rodolfo in machine2:
>>
>>  $ rsync --dry-run -vrtul --delete --exclude='/.*' .
>> 192.168.0.2:/home/rodolfo
>>
>> , and --delete works perfectly.  Instead, in this other example:
>>
>>  $ rsync --dry-run -vrt --delete --modify-window=1 Mail News howto ...
>> /mnt/pendrive/rodolfo
>>
>> I'm copying various files from different places of my home directory to a
>> directory named `rodolfo' on the pendrive.  I want that all the files
>> that
>> are
>> not listed before `/mnt/pendrive' in the above command were deleted in
>> the
>> destination, but this does not happen.  In rsync `man' page I can't find
>> a
>> solution.  Please, whoever can, any suggestion about how to do so.
>
>
> I use "--delete --force" per just having stumbled upon it at some
> point out in the wilds of the Net. Is that maybe what you're looking
> for? I THINK.. sometimes it leaves my directories but wipes out
> everything within those directories.
>
> Hope that helps (someone at least). :)


I'm sorry. I wasn't thinking fully through. Your usage is definitely
different from mine. Because you're targeting specific things, that
"--force" may not apply, but still maybe it will lead you to something
similar that's appropriate for your usage need. I don't know how it is
now, but that "--force" was not in my manual at one point not too long
ago (not near my Debian to check out its current status).

That flag was, again, just something out on the Net. Made me wonder
what other undocumented tricks might be available out there as well as
that anywhere we reach out for tech support is subject to the
limitations of the combined knowledge of all the participants. :)

Cindy :)

-- 
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Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Re: rsync deletion target files

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 6/3/16, Rodolfo Medina  wrote:
> Hi all Debian users.
>
> rsync's `--delete' option works fine when the target directory is the same
> as
> the sender one.  In the following example, I'm sending all the content of
> /home/rodolfo from machine1 to /home/rodolfo in machine2:
>
>  $ rsync --dry-run -vrtul --delete --exclude='/.*' .
> 192.168.0.2:/home/rodolfo
>
> , and --delete works perfectly.  Instead, in this other example:
>
>  $ rsync --dry-run -vrt --delete --modify-window=1 Mail News howto ...
> /mnt/pendrive/rodolfo
>
> I'm copying various files from different places of my home directory to a
> directory named `rodolfo' on the pendrive.  I want that all the files that
> are
> not listed before `/mnt/pendrive' in the above command were deleted in the
> destination, but this does not happen.  In rsync `man' page I can't find a
> solution.  Please, whoever can, any suggestion about how to do so.


I use "--delete --force" per just having stumbled upon it at some
point out in the wilds of the Net. Is that maybe what you're looking
for? I THINK.. sometimes it leaves my directories but wipes out
everything within those directories.

Hope that helps (someone at least). :)

Cindy :)

-- 
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Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

[OT-info] hacer funcionar webdriver en las nuevas versiones de Firefox

[listascor...@msjs.co]

Muy buenos días debianitas

Para los que estén buscando cómo hacer funcionar en python, webdriver en 
las nuevas versiones de Firefox a través de selenium, entonces aquí le 
dejo unos enlaces que le van a servir de mucho para hacerlo funcionar en 
sus guiones (scripts):


http://www.theautomatedtester.co.uk/blog/2016/selenium-webdriver-and-firefox-47.html

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Marionette/WebDriver

https://github.com/seleniumhq/selenium/issues/1431#issuecomment-182385532

que tengan un excelente fin de semana

Saludos;

Re: Désactiver par alsa une carte son[RESOLU]

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Bonsoir, 

Effectivement, j'ai dé-commenté dans le fichier
approprié une ligne qui mentionnait un module que ma carte 

son
n'utilise pas. 

J'ai été voir le fichier /proc/asound/modules et j'y
ai trouvé le module suivant: snd_hda_intel 

J'ai donc remplacé
l'ancien module par celui et après redémarrage du portable, le son est
géré par la clef usb. 

MERCI BEAUCOUP. 

Alex PADOLY 

Le 2016-06-24
15:39, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : 

> Le vendredi 24 juin 2016 à
15:19, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
> 
>> Je l'ai fais et cela n'a rien
changé, je l'ai peut-etre mal fait, je vais le faire de nouveau.
> 
>
Peut-être que tu avais inscrit le mauvais module. Comment est-ce que tu
l'as
> identifié ? Perso, avec la commande suivante :
> 
> lsmod |grep
snd
> 
> Peut-être que tu as mal déclaré sa mise en liste noire.
Comment est-ce que tu
> l'as déclarée ? Perso en ajoutant la ligne
suivante au fichier
> « /etc/modprobe.d/ce-que-tu-veux.conf » :
> 
>
blacklist snd_bcm2835
> 
> Sébastien

 

Re: Neomutt packages available

[Elimar Riesebieter]

* Stephen Allen  [2016-06-24 11:28 -0400]:

> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:37:35PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I am pleased to announce the availability of neomutt [0] packages for
> > Debian. Hints for installation you'll find at [1].
[...]
> > [0] http://www.neomutt.org/
> > [1] http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv
> > [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825821
> > [3] https://github.com/neomutt/neomutt
> 
> I was going to install it, then noticed your note that it will remove
> exiting mutt etc. packages. Why? I don't want that kind of behaviour,
> unless I'm missing something and they can't be on the same system
> together?

Neomutt is the same as pristine mutt but patched with features like
sidebar, notmuch, indexcolor etc. So you can either use neomutt or
the Debian mutt/mutt-patched. The executable binary is /usr/bin/mutt
in both cases. If you want to switch back to Debian mutt you have to
remove/purge neomutt-common first as the mutt package has no Replace
yet.

Your configuration can stay as it is, though. Maybe you want to
configure the neomutt features with some customized rc-files
documented in /usr/share/doc/neomutt-common/examples.

So there is nothing magic with neomutt at all..

Elimar
-- 
  "Talking much about oneself can also
   be a means to conceal oneself."
 -Friedrich Nietzsche

Re: Désactiver par alsa une carte son

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Le vendredi 24 juin 2016 à 15:19, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
> Je l'ai fais et cela n'a rien changé, je l'ai peut-etre
> mal fait, je vais le faire de nouveau. 

Peut-être que tu avais inscrit le mauvais module. Comment est-ce que tu l’as
identifié ? Perso, avec la commande suivante :

lsmod |grep snd

Peut-être que tu as mal déclaré sa mise en liste noire. Comment est-ce que tu
l’as déclarée ? Perso en ajoutant la ligne suivante au fichier
« /etc/modprobe.d/ce-que-tu-veux.conf » :

blacklist snd_bcm2835

Sébastien

Re: Neomutt packages available

[Stephen Allen]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:37:35PM +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am pleased to announce the availability of neomutt [0] packages for
> Debian. Hints for installation you'll find at [1].
> 
> I've packaged neomutt for Debian. A Debian ITP [2] is filed. The
> binaries are build in a sid environment. The sources are fetched
> from [3]. The neomutt branch is used. I'll update packages as
> needed. Please test the packages and let me know of any further
> glitches you find. If you want, you can open an issue on [3]. The
> Debian Bug Tracking System is not involved as the package isn't
> uploaded yet, but will be soon.
> 
> Packages for amd64, i386 and ppc can be installed from [1].
> 
> Thanks in advance for your cooperation
> 
> Elimar
> 
> [0] http://www.neomutt.org/
> [1] http://www.lxtec.de/debarchiv
> [2] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825821
> [3] https://github.com/neomutt/neomutt

I was going to install it, then noticed your note that it will remove
exiting mutt etc. packages. Why? I don't want that kind of behaviour,
unless I'm missing something and they can't be on the same system
together? 

Re: Désactiver par alsa une carte son

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Bonsoir, 

Je l'ai fais et cela n'a rien changé, je l'ai peut-etre
mal fait, je vais le faire de nouveau. 

Merci. 

Le 2016-06-24 14:13,
Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : 

> Bonjour,
> 
> Le vendredi 24 juin 2016
à 12:41, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
> 
>> Je cherche encore.
> 
>
J'insiste, mais pourquoi ne pas mettre le module en liste noire ? Module
pas
> chargé, carte pas détectée, problème réglé.
> 
>
Sébastien

 

Re: off topic: chromebook

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 24 June 2016 13:23:53 Byung-Hee HWANG (.) wrote:
> >What DO you want??
>
> Dear Lisi,
>
> My words was lack to express my aim (translation-work[1][2]) with
> chromebook. That gave people some confusion.
>
> And now i get all informations that i was  needed for chromebook by
> people's comments.
>
> Thanks for comments, Lisi!
>
> Very thanks to Patrick, tomas, Curt! indeed..
>
> Sincerely,
>
> [1]
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B77FeIvaaIqcYVhPRXR0SndNZ00/view?usp=drive
>sdk [2]
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B77FeIvaaIqccnpsMXM4LVNpZUk/view?usp=drive
>sdk

Thank you for that, Byung-Hee. I am impressed.  Other people understood you, 
so the loss and failing were mine.  I wish that my knowledge of Korean were 
as great as yours of English!  I know a tiny, tiny, tiny bit of Japanese, but 
absolutely NO Korean. :-(

Thanks directly to your quest for a cheap chromebook, I went on a quest for a 
cheap Android tablet - and found one for what is under $100 dollars, even 
today, after this morning's disastrous fall in the value of the pound.  (And 
believe me, in the UK that is quite something!!!  I thought that it would be 
impossible.)

Lisi

Re: Stretch, Radeon 4850, and backlight

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Thu, 2016-06-23 at 15:49 -0600, James Lay wrote:
> And after hooking up a second monitor it indeeds defaults to that
> second monitor after running:
> modprobe radeon modeset=1
> Now..I do I tell the driver which monitor to use?  Thank you.

Great! There's probably a bug somewhere, or that particular hardware
should have some sort of quirk to enable the primary monitor, but I'm
not sure what component the bug should be filed against.


I haven't tried this myself, but it looks like you should be able to
force the primary display on (and the secondary off) during
modesetting:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_mode_setting#Forcing_modes_and_EDID

You can also do something similar in the Xorg configuration.

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Re: Encontro Comunitário - FISL17

[Giovani Ferreira]

On 23-06-2016 10:54, Marcos Egito - Gmail wrote:
> Obrigado Giovana!
> Eu estarei por la, vou ver a possibilidade de participar, aproveito a 
> oportunidade, queria ver a possibilidade da comunidade fazer algo junto com o 
> GT-Educação e o GT-Robótica, se não possível este ano mais irmos pensando 
> para os próximos!

É uma ótima ideia, para este ano eu não consigo ver algo para 
trabalharmos, mas imagino que podemos iniciar uma discussão sobre este 
tema.


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Re: Désactiver par alsa une carte son

[Sébastien NOBILI]

Bonjour,

Le vendredi 24 juin 2016 à 12:41, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
> Je
> cherche encore. 

J’insiste, mais pourquoi ne pas mettre le module en liste noire ? Module pas
chargé, carte pas détectée, problème réglé.

Sébastien

Re: Problema con los logs de systemd

[Camaleón]

El Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:22:23 +0200, José Miguel (sio2) escribió:

> Antes de nada, un saludo a la lista después de da tanto tiempo.
> 
> Tengo un problema con mi servidor jessie, pero no sé cómo narices
> meterle mano. Resulta que los logs quye pueden verse con journalctl han
> dejado de generarse. Los tradicionales siguen escribiéndose.

Si tienes registros mira a ver si te dicen algo interesante sobre el 
servicio que falla ("dmesg | grep -i -e journal -e "systemd" o "grep -i 
journal /var/log/syslog"...).
 
> Puedo ver el siguiente fallo:
> 
> # systemctl --state failed
>   UNIT  LOAD   ACTIVE SUBDESCRIPTION ●
>   systemd-journal-flush.service loaded failed failed Trigger Flushing of
>   Journal to Persistent Storage
> 
> 
> Curioseando he visto que este servicio depende de
> systemd-journald.service, que tampoco arranca:
> 
> # systemctl status systemd-journald ● systemd-journald.service
>Loaded: error (Reason: Invalid argument)
>   Active: inactive (dead)

Ese mensaje de "invalid argument" es curioso ¿no?

(...)

> que tampoco arranca. El problema es que si los intento arrancar a mano
> para ver qué ocurre:
> 
> # systemctl start systemd-journald.socket Job for
> systemd-journald.socket failed. See 'systemctl status
> systemd-journald.socket' and 'journalctl -xn' for details
> 
> Me sugiere que consulte los logs que, precisamente, no puedo generar. Y
> claro no sé por dónde tirar. He mirado a ver si había alguna modo de
> arrancar el servicio de modo que escupiera los erroes por pantalla, pero
> no he encontrado nada.
> 
> ¿Se os ocurre algo? Gracias de antemano.

Si no has cambiado nada y ha estado funcionando hasta ahora no se me 
ocurre qué puede haberle pasado para que deje de iniciarse ese servicio 
que además es vital para el sistema.

Echa un vistazo a la sección de problemas con systemd de la wiki de 
Archlinux a ver si te sirve algo de lo que indican:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/systemd#Troubleshooting

Saludos,

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Re: The Dreaded 'canberra-gtk-module' !

[Michael Biebl]

Am 24.06.2016 um 15:11 schrieb Alan McConnell:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:21:34PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:02:25 -0400
>> Alan McConnell  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Alan,
>>
>>> I can't find this module on my system, presumably because it is hidden
>>> in some sub-directory.  I think that I'm actually looking for
>>> libcanberra-gtk-module.
>>
>> libcanberra-gtk-module is for creating/playing sound events.  All that
>> will happen if you install it is that mutt still won't do what you want,
>> but you'll get an error sound to tell you.
>   I have also read that (lib)canberra-gtk-module has to do with
> sound.  But I have to go by the error message which I gave, no?

Not necessarily, this error message is a red herring most likely.

> And I asked: where is the file  libcanberra-gtk-module  ?  And
> no one has yet given me an answer to this question.

$ apt-file search canberra-gtk-module

> libcanberra-gtk-module: 
> /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon-3.0/gtk-modules/canberra-gtk-module.desktop
> libcanberra-gtk-module: 
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-2.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so
> libcanberra-gtk-module: /usr/share/doc/libcanberra-gtk-module/README.gz
> libcanberra-gtk-module: 
> /usr/share/doc/libcanberra-gtk-module/changelog.Debian.gz
> libcanberra-gtk-module: /usr/share/doc/libcanberra-gtk-module/copyright
> libcanberra-gtk3-module: 
> /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/modules/libcanberra-gtk-module.so



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Re: The Dreaded 'canberra-gtk-module' !

[tomas]

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On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 09:11:23AM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:21:34PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:02:25 -0400
> > Alan McConnell  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Alan,
> > 
> > >I can't find this module on my system, presumably because it is hidden
> > >in some sub-directory.  I think that I'm actually looking for
> > >libcanberra-gtk-module.
> > 
> > libcanberra-gtk-module is for creating/playing sound events.  All that
> > will happen if you install it is that mutt still won't do what you want,
> > but you'll get an error sound to tell you.
>   I have also read that (lib)canberra-gtk-module has to do with
> sound.  But I have to go by the error message which I gave, no?
> 
> And I asked: where is the file  libcanberra-gtk-module  ?  And
> no one has yet given me an answer to this question.
> 
> Alan, hoping for further information

Here's from the package description:

Description: simple abstract interface for playing event sounds
 libcanberra defines a simple abstract interface for playing
 event sounds. 
 
 libcanberra relies on the XDG sound naming specification for
 identifying event sounds. On Unix/Linux the right sound
 to play is found via the mechanisms defined in the XDG sound
 theming specification.
Homepage: http://0pointer.de/lennart/projects/libcanberra/

(thanks to your query I see it's installed on my system and unneeded,
purging it :)

regards
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Re: The Dreaded 'canberra-gtk-module' !

[Alan McConnell]

On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 09:21:34PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:02:25 -0400
> Alan McConnell  wrote:
> 
> Hello Alan,
> 
> >I can't find this module on my system, presumably because it is hidden
> >in some sub-directory.  I think that I'm actually looking for
> >libcanberra-gtk-module.
> 
> libcanberra-gtk-module is for creating/playing sound events.  All that
> will happen if you install it is that mutt still won't do what you want,
> but you'll get an error sound to tell you.
  I have also read that (lib)canberra-gtk-module has to do with
  sound.  But I have to go by the error message which I gave, no?

  And I asked: where is the file  libcanberra-gtk-module  ?  And
  no one has yet given me an answer to this question.

Alan, hoping for further information

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RE: Désactiver par alsa une carte son

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Bonjour, 

La carte intégré est bien sur reconnu et la carte son
sur port usb. Tout le problème est de forcer alsa a utiliser la carte


sur port usb, ce que je n'arrive pas à faire pour l'instant. 

Je
cherche encore. 

Merci. 

Le 2016-06-24 06:19, BOITEUX, Frederic a
écrit : 

> Bonjour, 
> 
> Tu peux jeter un œil dans le fichier
/proc/asound/cards pour voir si ta carte-son USB est bien reconnue.
Après, c'est peut-être juste un souci de mélange ? Quelle version de
Debian as-tu sur ton portable : Jessie ? 
> 
> Si tu utilises
PulseAudio, regarde ce que donne un outil comme pavucontrol… ou
simplement le mélangeur de ton bureau… 
> 
> Fred. 
> 
> DE : Alex
PADOLY [mailto:apado...@padoly.besaba.com] 
> ENVOYé : jeudi 23 juin
2016 19:43
> À : Debian-user French
> OBJET : Désactiver par alsa
une carte son 
> 
> Bonsoir à tous, 
> 
> La sortie HP de mon
ordinateur portable DELL D430 ne fonctionne plus. J'ai du son seulement
sur l'unique HP de mon ordinateur portable. Il est impossible de
désactiver la carte son du PC portable par le bios. J'ai acheté une
carte son usb TERRATEC, j'ai branché mais j'ai toujours du son sur le
HP de mon ordinateur portable, je n'ai toujours pas de son sur la sortie
casque de la carte son usb. 
> 
> Voici mon fichier alsa-base.conf : 
>

> # autoloader aliases 
> 
> install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe
snd-card-0 
> 
> install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1 
> 
>
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2 
> 
> install
sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3 
> 
> install sound-slot-4
/sbin/modprobe snd-card-4 
> 
> install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe
snd-card-5 
> 
> install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6 
> 
>
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7 
> 
> # Cause optional
modules to be loaded above generic modules 
> 
> install snd
/sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet
snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq ; : ; } 
> 
> install
snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && {
/sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; } 
> 
> install snd-emu10k1
/sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet
snd-emu10k1-synth ; : ; } 
> 
> # Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as
first soundcard 
> 
> #options snd-pcsp index=-2 
> 
> Keep
snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard 
> 
> options
snd-usb-audio index=-2 
> 
> # Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing
index 0 
> 
> options bt87x index=-2 
> 
> options cx88_alsa index=-2 
>

> options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2 
> 
> options snd-intel8x0m
index=-2 
> 
> options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2 
> 
> Voici mon
fichier alsa-base-blacklist.conf 
> 
> # Uncomment these entries in
order to blacklist unwanted modem drivers 
> 
> # blacklist
snd-atiixp-modem 
> 
> # blacklist snd-intel8x0m 
> 
> # blacklist
snd-via82xx-modem 
> 
> # Comment this entry in order to load snd-pcsp
driver 
> 
> blacklist snd-pcsp 
> 
> Merci pour vos conseils. 
> 
>
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Re: SOLVED Re: USB printer CUPS stalls on "Sending data to printer"

[Emanuel Berg]

Brian  writes:

>>> A guaranteed technique is to install all
>>> printing related packages.
>>
>> Unless there are conflicts...
>
> When you have installed the packages
> I mentioned you can come back and tell us
> what the conflicts are. Meanwhile, the advice
> is good and stands.

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Re: dépôts "stable" intéressants ou sympas

[Bernard Schoenacker]

Le Fri, 24 Jun 2016 10:35:02 +0200,
pierre.cresce...@unice.fr a écrit :

> Bonjour,
> 
> Auriez-vous des dépôts de niveau "stable" intéressants ou sympas
> (critères à interpréter à votre convenance :-)) ? En cherchant un
> moment sur le web, et notamment sur les site et wiki Debian, j'ai
> sélectionné ça : deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie main
> contrib non-free deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates
> main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/
> jessie-proposed-updates main contrib non-free
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib
> non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib
> non-free deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main non-free
> deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ne0sight/chrome-gnome-shell/ubuntu
> trusty main
> 
> Mais si vous en avez d'autres que je puisse un peu fouiller, je suis
> partant !
> 
> Merci.
> 
> Cordialement,
> 
> Pierre Crescenzoenseignant-chercheur en Informatique
>   Université Nice Sophia Antipolis (UNS) et CNRS  http://www.unice.fr/
>   http://www.i3s.unice.fr/  http://sparks.i3s.unice.fr/
> http://www.cnrs.fr/ Membre CoNRS  http://www.cnrs.fr/comitenational/
>   Vice-Président PromoSciences  http://www.promosciences.org/
>   Membre CAc Université Côte d'Azur (UCA)
> http://www.univ-cotedazur.fr/ Membre Conseil Documentaire UNS
> http://bibliotheque.unice.fr/ Membre Conseil de Gestion Faculté des
> Sciences  http://sciences.unice.fr/ Membre Comité Scientifique
> Bachelor SKEMA  http://www.skema-bs.fr/
> mailto:pierre.cresce...@unice.fr  http://www.crescenzo.nom.fr/

bonjour,

il existe un générateur de sources.list intéressant :

https://debgen.simplylinux.ch/


slt
bernard

dépôts "stable" intéressants ou sympas

[Pierre . CRESCENZO]

Bonjour,

Auriez-vous des dépôts de niveau "stable" intéressants ou sympas (critères
à interpréter à votre convenance :-)) ? En cherchant un moment sur le web,
et notamment sur les site et wiki Debian, j'ai sélectionné ça :
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-proposed-updates main contrib
non-free
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ jessie main non-free
deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ne0sight/chrome-gnome-shell/ubuntu trusty main

Mais si vous en avez d'autres que je puisse un peu fouiller, je suis
partant !

Merci.

Cordialement,

Pierre Crescenzoenseignant-chercheur en Informatique
  Université Nice Sophia Antipolis (UNS) et CNRS  http://www.unice.fr/
  http://www.i3s.unice.fr/  http://sparks.i3s.unice.fr/  http://www.cnrs.fr/
  Membre CoNRS  http://www.cnrs.fr/comitenational/
  Vice-Président PromoSciences  http://www.promosciences.org/
  Membre CAc Université Côte d'Azur (UCA)  http://www.univ-cotedazur.fr/
  Membre Conseil Documentaire UNS  http://bibliotheque.unice.fr/
  Membre Conseil de Gestion Faculté des Sciences  http://sciences.unice.fr/
  Membre Comité Scientifique Bachelor SKEMA  http://www.skema-bs.fr/
  mailto:pierre.cresce...@unice.fr  http://www.crescenzo.nom.fr/

Re: flashplayer et Linux

[andre_debian]

On Thursday 23 June 2016 17:40:50 Jean Bernon wrote:
> J'ai la même impression qu'Eric. Shockwave Flash est l'habillage de
> pepper... et d'ailleurs quand je change de version de pepper... je vois le 
> numéro de version se répercuter dans le shockwave de Firefox. 
> Par exemple pour l'instant mon plugin affiché dans Firefox est Shockwave
> Flash 21.0 r0, exactement la même que dans Chromium qui d'ailleurs affiche
> lui aussi comme nom de plugin "Shockwave Flash 21.0 r0" et précise son
> emplacement /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so 
> (voir mon message précédent).   

Oui, merci de l'explication, ça doit être ça.

André

> > J'ai l'impression qu'il s'agit juste d'affichage, le wrapper affiche
> > pepper en tant que "Shockwave Flash". Peut-être qu'il affiche le
> > Flash d'origine comme Shockwave Flash également...
> > Éric Dégenètais

> > > Oui mais pourquoi ?
> > > Tous les deux sont des plugins et pourquoi l'un a le privilège
> > > de figurer dans les plugins de Firefox et pas l'autre ? André

Re: [Xfce] firefox-esr keeps reloading previous tabs on startup

[Curt]

On 2016-06-24, Mike Kupfer  wrote:
> Is anyone else on Jessie (x86_64) seeing a problem where Firefox
> (45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1) wants to reload the tabs from the previous session,
> even when the preferences are set not to do that?

I'm reading (in order to wield the biggest hammer to squash the "bug")
that you can 'about:config':

and set

browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash

to false.

> I normally use "show a blank page" on startup, but I was getting either
> the previous tabs or the "this is embarassing" screen (where FF tells me
> it was unable to restore the tabs).
>
> I changed to "show my home page", and I would briefly see my home page
> before it was replaced by the "this is embarassing" screen.
>
> The problem isn't 100% reproducible, but it's close to it.
>
> I only have one extension (NoScript).  Disabling it didn't help.
>
> I have a few plug-ins installed, but they are all set to Never
> Activate.
>

***
> The problem seems tied to using exo-open.  I see the problem when I
> start Firefox via the "Web browser" entry in the main Xfce menu.  I
> don't see the problem if I invoke Firefox from the shell, Alt-F2, or a
> customer launcher (which just runs "firefox").
>
***

This seems like a clue someone with more mental acuity than myself might
be able to exploit.

There's only one firefox on your machine, correct?


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RE: Désactiver par alsa une carte son

[BOITEUX, Frederic]

Bonjour,

Tu peux jeter un œil dans le fichier /proc/asound/cards pour voir si ta 
carte-son USB est bien reconnue. Après, c’est peut-être juste un souci de 
mélange ?  Quelle version de Debian as-tu sur ton portable : Jessie ?
Si tu utilises PulseAudio, regarde ce que donne un outil comme pavucontrol… ou 
simplement le mélangeur de ton bureau…

Fred.

De : Alex PADOLY [mailto:apado...@padoly.besaba.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 23 juin 2016 19:43
À : Debian-user French
Objet : Désactiver par alsa une carte son


Bonsoir à tous,



La sortie HP de mon ordinateur portable DELL D430 ne fonctionne plus. J'ai du 
son seulement sur l'unique HP de mon ordinateur portable. Il est impossible de 
désactiver la carte son du PC portable par le bios. J'ai acheté une carte son 
usb TERRATEC, j'ai branché mais j'ai toujours du son sur le HP de mon 
ordinateur portable, je n'ai toujours pas de son sur la sortie casque de la 
carte son usb.



Voici mon fichier alsa-base.conf :





# autoloader aliases

install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0

install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1

install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2

install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3

install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4

install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5

install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6

install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules

install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet 
snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq ; : ; }

install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi && { 
/sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-seq-midi ; : ; }

install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 && { 
/sbin/modprobe --quiet snd-emu10k1-synth ; : ; }

# Keep snd-pcsp from beeing loaded as first soundcard



#options snd-pcsp index=-2

Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard

options snd-usb-audio index=-2

# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0

options bt87x index=-2

options cx88_alsa index=-2

options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2

options snd-intel8x0m index=-2



options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2





Voici mon fichier alsa-base-blacklist.conf



# Uncomment these entries in order to blacklist unwanted modem drivers

# blacklist snd-atiixp-modem

# blacklist snd-intel8x0m

# blacklist snd-via82xx-modem

# Comment this entry in order to load snd-pcsp driver

blacklist snd-pcsp



Merci pour vos conseils.

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Re: [Xfce] firefox-esr keeps reloading previous tabs on startup

[deloptes]

Mike Kupfer wrote:

> Is anyone else on Jessie (x86_64) seeing a problem where Firefox
> (45.2.0esr-1~deb8u1) wants to reload the tabs from the previous session,
> even when the preferences are set not to do that?
> 
> I normally use "show a blank page" on startup, but I was getting either
> the previous tabs or the "this is embarassing" screen (where FF tells me
> it was unable to restore the tabs).
> 
> I changed to "show my home page", and I would briefly see my home page
> before it was replaced by the "this is embarassing" screen.
> 
> The problem isn't 100% reproducible, but it's close to it.
> 
> I only have one extension (NoScript).  Disabling it didn't help.
> 
> I have a few plug-ins installed, but they are all set to Never
> Activate.
> 
> The problem seems tied to using exo-open.  I see the problem when I
> start Firefox via the "Web browser" entry in the main Xfce menu.  I
> don't see the problem if I invoke Firefox from the shell, Alt-F2, or a
> customer launcher (which just runs "firefox").
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> thanks,
> mike

In my case it was a nfs issue. There was some .nfs file.

regards