Re: Compositing Problem

[Brandon Doyle]

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From: Jimmy Johnson 
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 2:33:41 AM
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Subject: Re: Compositing Problem

On 10/12/2016 12:10 PM, David Baron wrote:
> Running must recent kwin, etc., with Sid nvidia-legacy-304xx driver.
>
> Window decorations slow or do not show on non-KDE windows. If they do not
> show, one can pretend they are there and do everything.
>
> Effects all compositing options.
>
> Where to file bug?
> Quick fix?

Quick fix, force install all your 'nvidia' and 'glx' installed packages
back to 'Jessie-backports' and then 'lock-them' works, maybe 20-24
packages that you will be locking, varies a little with my installs,
some I had not upgraded and I only had to lock the packages.  I used
synaptic while in xfce4 and all your kde apps work from xfce4 too as a
side note.  Note no problem with upgrades and those files being locked,
at this time anyways. hehe

There's a lot noise out there about fix's, I found nothing works for me.
  I came up with this fix and it works.  While gtk works with the
upgrade, plasma don't, it's a problem with plasma, you can't blame
nvidia and say they are not doing their part, this is a problem debian
plasma, I'm sure they are working on it. Seems to affect only
'legacy-304' and could be a simple code error.

With the Debian-nvidia driver: Plasma is unable to start as it could not
correctly use OpenGL2.  Note dialog is working, sound is working, no plasma.

With the Debian-free driver, computer freeze with colorful squiggly
lines and I have to push the power button and repair the file system.

David, do you have a better fix than down-grading the packages?  And I
may not need to down grade as many packages as I do, but it works.
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Disabling transmission of beacon frames

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Jan Bakuwel wrote:
> On 23/10/16 02:40, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > The AP would have to switch to standard beaconning while *any* station
> > is associated, otherwise it could have nefarious effects on network
> > performance.
> 
> Just out of curiosity why is that? I thought beacons were only used
> while AP and client get associated?

No, they're often used when the station is not receiving from the AP,
even when it is already associated.

Also, other receivers (APs and stations) can use them for channel width
management, and for empty channel detection.

> > Also, beacon-less infrasctructure mode CANNOT work on a number of bands
> > where the stations are forced to operate in passive mode (i.e. they
> > cannot issue a probe request to a channel where they did not receive an
> > AP beacon).  It is also likely forbidden in any channels where DSS
> > (weather radar detection) must be performed, as this is only performed
> > by APs.
> >
> > So, in theory this would work provided the adapter firmware allows for
> > it in the first place, and it is restricted to channels where clients
> > are allowed to actively probe for APs -- which is information readly
> > available on the regdb (regulatory database).  However, I see no way to
> > control this in /sbin/iw for infrastructure mode (but I find iw terribly
> > confusing, so I might have failed to notice it).
> 
> I'll need to study that a bit more. My question only concerns the 2.4GHz
> band ... as far as i know DFS only applies to the 5GHZ band, correct?

Well, look at the regulatory database.  Some 2.4GHz channels can end up
forced by the kernel into passive mode, depending on several factors.
It really depends on your radio's firmware, what region it is set to,
and what region is your kernel set to.

> > Please ask in the linux-wireless mailinglist at vger.kernel.org.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion, I'll do that.

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

[David Wright]

On Sat 22 Oct 2016 at 16:42:57 (+0100), Joe wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:57:05 -0500
> David Wright  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri 21 Oct 2016 at 18:47:43 (+0100), Joe wrote:
> > > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:58:42 -0500
> > > David Wright  wrote:  
> > > > 
> > > > . Neither OS was running when Civil Time changed to/from DST,
> > > > . After the time changed, one OS has run, updating the Local Time
> > > > to match Civil Time, . Another OS is just being booted up.
> > > > 
> > > > What Local Time will eventually be displayed by this system?
> > > >   
> > > DST may well be the answer.  
> > 
> > (I can't see how that answers anything, as I hadn't specified which
> > way time changed, nor can I see why it would be an answer in either
> > case.)
> 
> It is *a* reason for inter-OS time shifting, it may be applicable to
> your or other peoples' cases.
> > 
> > My concern is that the second OS to boot might apply the time change
> > in exactly the same manner as the first one did and should have done.
> > So the system's Local Time would end up an hour fast (were this late
> > Spring) or slow (were this late Fall) after the second OS applied its
> > own time change.
> > 
> > Or IOW what mechanism is there for one OS to find out whether another
> > OS has altered the RTC by an hour any time recently?¹
> > 
> > > If I boot Linux on my Win8 laptop in the
> > > summer, it knows the time perfectly well. If I now boot Win8, the
> > > clock is an hour ahead. It does use a network time source but it
> > > does not query the source on boot, or soon afterwards. Eventually
> > > it will do so, but on a fixed schedule, so not for days, and there
> > > seems to be no way to fix it. It's not just the first time after
> > > DST arrives, it's every time.  
> > 
> > But isn't that just a configuration problem which I assume is unusual
> > in that most people are not reporting that problem? What's more, you
> > don't say whether your RTC is running UTC or some other time.
> > 
> > Ignoring drift, a RTC running UTC never changes, so the hardware
> > always knows the correct time. The Local Time displayed is just a
> > matter of sensible configuration.
> > 
> > My question, posed above, is *only* of concern where the RTC is
> > running non-UTC, ie it gets fiddled with twice a year. At these two
> > times, the RTC could be subject to incorrect alterations by
> > erroneously configured OSes, or even multiple OSes perfectly
> > configured, but unaware of each other's actions.
> 
> I'm making the point that it isn't just at the point of change of DST
> that this happens, but at any time when DST is active. Both OSes use
> network time updates routinely, not just when they think the clock is
> wrong (how could they tell otherwise?).

Ah, now I realise why I couldn't understand your first answer: we're
discussing a different problem. You're talking about the static
problem of getting linux and windows to interpret the RTC in a way
that is compatible with each other.

My question relates to the OP's situation with no networking/NTP, but
where the static configuration problems have been solved (where you've
not succeeded), but with the RTC running non-UTC. And my question
relates to the dynamic situation on two Sunday mornings of the year.
I can sum it up as:

With multiple OSes booting at various times, which OS is going to
change the RTC by an hour, and how is it to communicate that it has
done so to all the other OSes present on the computer, in order to
prevent each one thinking that it has to make that change because
*it* has total responsibility for the RTC.

The six bullet points were to make the scenario concrete. One OS
has changed the RTC to the new Local Time. It didn't use NTP to
lookup the time; it merely noted that the time change must have
occurred since the last boot, say, a week ago. The computer is happy.

Now we boot up a second OS which makes the same observation: "Hey,
I need to update Local Time because everyone changed their clocks
last weekend." Do you see the problem? I don't see how to avoid it
if you don't run a computer with RTC on UTC.

> The issue is that when I made the Linux installation, I told it that
> the hardware clock should be set to UTC (the default), whereas the
> Windows installation will always assume local time.

I was under the impression that the solution (from Darac) was to set
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\TimeZoneInformation\RealTimeIsUniversal
to 0 or 1 in the registry. Do you do that?

> The two OSes will
> always be an hour out during the DST period, and if you're not in the
> UTC time zone, there will be a further offset at all times. This has
> always been an issue when dual-booting, when you would normally tell
> Linux to consider the HW clock to use local time as a workaround.

I have to admit that I don't know how linux treats the time changes
when the RTC is on Local Time. Does it look at /etc/timezone and the
calendar and make the 

Re: Instalando OpenOffice en Debian

[Felix Perez]

El día 22 de octubre de 2016, 4:30, Roberto José Blandino Cisneros
 escribió:
>>> Las motivaciones por las que quiero instalar OpenOffice son mías, y creo
>>> que nadie puede decirme qué puedo instalar o no. Sólo he preguntado por qué
>>> podía haberme dado problemas y cómo hacer algo, por lo que este comentario
>>> considero que es del todo inapropiado.
>

Inapropiado es que contestes así cuando hay quienes desean ayudarte.

> Cada quien tiene sus motivos, comenté por que quizás supuse yo, que no
> los conocía, si por alguna razón aun desea usar openoffice es su
> decisión y pues al menos yo no me opongo. Entrele.
>

De acuerdo contigo y agregaría que  mejor le preguntara a la lista,
foro o grupo de openoffice o mejor aún pregúntale a google,
duckduckgo,bing, yahoo, etc.

Suerte en tu empresa.




-- 
usuario linux  #274354
normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html

Re: bluetooth error

[deloptes]

Manoel Pedro de Araújo wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have installed debian jessie on a  Samsung X40 notebook, when the
> bluetooth is working, but it shows an error as shown bellow
> 
> Out 22 16:56:18 debian bluetoothd[824]: Sap driver initialization failed.
> Out 22 16:56:18 debian bluetoothd[824]: sap-server: Operation not
> permitted (1)
> Out 22 16:56:18 debian bluetoothd[824]: hci0 Load Connection Parameters
> failed: Unk...1)
> 
> Maybe is this a problem? Please, help me

look in /var/log/syslog for the initialization of the driver, if this is
fine and bluetooth is working, ignore the messages. I get the same here
(see attached).

You can check also this bug
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=803265

regards




Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.314677] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.21
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.314688] NET: Registered protocol family 
31
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.314689] Bluetooth: HCI device and 
connection manager initialized
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.314692] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer 
initialized
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.314694] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer 
initialized
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.314698] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer 
initialized
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.522624] mousedev: PS/2 mouse device 
common for all mice
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.656894] usbcore: registered new 
interface driver btusb
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.670211] Bluetooth: hci0: read Intel 
version: 370710018002030d00
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.678811] Bluetooth: hci0: Intel 
Bluetooth firmware file: intel/ibt-hw-37.7.10-fw-1.80.2.3.d.bseq
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.688616] iwlwifi :02:00.0: loaded 
firmware version 17.352738.0 op_mode iwlmvm
Oct 21 10:14:43 hostname kernel: [   15.861172] Bluetooth: hci0: Intel 
Bluetooth firmware patch completed and activated

Oct 23 00:31:33 hostname systemd[1]: Reached target Bluetooth.
Oct 23 00:31:33 hostname systemd[1]: Started Load/Save RF Kill Switch Status of 
rfkill7.
Oct 23 00:31:33 hostname bluetoothd[4513]: Sap driver initialization failed.
Oct 23 00:31:33 hostname bluetoothd[4513]: sap-server: Operation not permitted 
(1)
Oct 23 00:31:33 hostname bluetoothd[4513]: Failed to set mode: Busy (0x0a)
Oct 23 00:32:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: Exception AttributeError: 
"'NoneType' object has no attribute 'stdout'" in > ignored
Oct 23 00:32:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: Starting blueman-mechanism
Oct 23 00:32:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading Network
Oct 23 00:32:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading Config
Oct 23 00:32:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading RfKill
Oct 23 00:32:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading Ppp
Oct 23 00:35:01 hostname CRON[982]: (root) CMD (command -v debian-sa1 > 
/dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1)
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname dbus[2041]: [system] Activating service 
name='org.blueman.Mechanism' (using servicehelper)
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname blueman-mechanism: Starting blueman-mechanism
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname dbus[2041]: [system] Successfully activated service 
'org.blueman.Mechanism'
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname blueman-mechanism: loading Network
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname blueman-mechanism: loading Config
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname blueman-mechanism: loading RfKill
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname blueman-mechanism: loading Ppp
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: Unable to init server: 
Could not connect: Connection refused
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: Unable to init server: 
Could not connect: Connection refused
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname kernel: [112537.592093] usb 1-1.8.2: USB disconnect, 
device number 7
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname kernel: [112537.594352] Bluetooth: hci0: turning off 
Intel device LED failed (-19)
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname systemd[1]: Service bluetooth.target is not needed 
anymore. Stopping.
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname systemd[1]: Stopping Bluetooth.
Oct 23 00:35:02 hostname systemd[1]: Stopped target Bluetooth.
Oct 23 00:35:32 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: Exception AttributeError: 
"'NoneType' object has no attribute 'stdout'" in > ignored
Oct 23 00:35:32 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: Starting blueman-mechanism
Oct 23 00:35:32 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading Network
Oct 23 00:35:32 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading Config
Oct 23 00:35:32 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading RfKill
Oct 23 00:35:32 hostname org.blueman.Mechanism[2041]: loading Ppp

Stretch System Stops Boot Process Immediately After Grub Screen

[Jape Person]

I've got a little Panasonic CF-R3 mini-laptop which has been 
kept fully up-to-date in testing every day since Etch was 
released. (I think the original installation is that old.)


I've been using the linux-image-686-pae kernel on the system. 
The updates today included an update to 
linux-image-4.7.0-1-686-pae (4.7.8-1) and grub-pc (2.02-beta3-1).


Upon reboot the system stops with a blinking underline cursor in 
the upper left corner. I suspect that the boot process stops 
immediately after grub. I cannot connect via ssh or even ping 
the system. Using Ctrl-Alt-Del has no effect, but touching the 
start-stop switch elicits a beep and immediate power-down.


The same results are obtained if I use the grub menu to select 
recovery mode.


A much older desktop system running testing and the same kernel 
was not adversely affected.


I'm only reporting this for purposes of corroboration in case 
anyone else has seen something similar coincident with these 
updates.


I'm in the midst of some business which will prevent me from 
delving into the failure right now. I'll get into it some time 
next week, perhaps.


I'm planning to make a couple of different live images on USB 
keys so that I can boot the failed system to examine it and see 
if there's anything I might just fix on it.


There were no error messages during the upgrade. I'm a bit more 
inclined to suspect the kernel upgrade than the grub-pc upgrade. 
This little unit has a strange hybrid video subsystem which 
shares system memory with the video subsystem. Everything on the 
system is early Intel Centrino era stuff, but with the video 
being ATI. Maybe it's weird enough that it caught a corner case 
with the kernel change.


But the system has been in the rolling-upgrade mode for years, 
so something odd may have happened to grub-pc itself. I suppose 
chroot to the system drive and running update-grub is worth a shot.


If anyone has a suggestion, I'm willing to try to learn. As I 
said, it will be a little while before I have time to actually 
dig into it.


In the off chance I actually learn something, I'll post back to 
the thread.


Thanks,
JP

Re: Reconfiguring grub2 UFEI system

[Mark Neidorff]

On Friday, 10/21/16 10:19:47 PM Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 21/10/2016 à 20:56, Mark Neidorff a écrit :
> > So, the next step was to clean out the other distros.  I used gparted to
> > delete no longer needed partitions and to expand other partitions to fill
> > the space.  All is now good.
> > 
> > I then ran
> > 
> > #update-grub
> > 
> > hoping that would regenerate the grub boot menu,  (I also tried
> > #update-grub2) but the old entries still appear when the system boots.
> 
> Are you talking about entries in GRUB's menu or in the UEFI boot menu ?

Grub menu.  (I don't see a UEFI menu)

> update-grub only updates the former.

Good.

> What is the output of "os-prober" ?

No output. (yes, I ran it as root)

> Are you sure the GRUB that shows up is the one from Debian ?

I'm not sure how to answer that question.  The first OS I installed was 
OpenSUSE.  Then I installed Debian 8.6 twice (on the two separate drives in 
the system).  All three of these entries are still there even after running 
update-grub.

I wouldn't care about the extra entries except that the OpenSUSE entry is the 
default.  I want  Debian to be the default (and, yes there is only one 
instance of Debian installed).  Yes I tried changing the value of the default 
before I ran update-grub, but that didn't help.

Thanks for any help,

Mark

Re: Disabling transmission of beacon frames

[Jan Bakuwel]

Hi Henrique,

On 23/10/16 02:40, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Jan Bakuwel wrote:
>> Does anyone know if it's possible to disable passive mode on an AP? It
>> is possible to set the SSID to hidden but this does not stop the
>> broadcasts, it just broadcasts frames with a null SSID. Stopping the
>> broadcasts altogether (and as a consequence the client must use active
>> mode, ie. needs to send probes) will result in no EMR when wifi is not
>> in use, in other words AP will only listen not transmit in that case,
>> yet wifi is available when needed.
> The AP would have to switch to standard beaconning while *any* station
> is associated, otherwise it could have nefarious effects on network
> performance.

Just out of curiosity why is that? I thought beacons were only used
while AP and client get associated?
If wifi is in use, we can accept EMR including beacons. Just not when
it's not (for example during the night).

> Also, beacon-less infrasctructure mode CANNOT work on a number of bands
> where the stations are forced to operate in passive mode (i.e. they
> cannot issue a probe request to a channel where they did not receive an
> AP beacon).  It is also likely forbidden in any channels where DSS
> (weather radar detection) must be performed, as this is only performed
> by APs.
>
> So, in theory this would work provided the adapter firmware allows for
> it in the first place, and it is restricted to channels where clients
> are allowed to actively probe for APs -- which is information readly
> available on the regdb (regulatory database).  However, I see no way to
> control this in /sbin/iw for infrastructure mode (but I find iw terribly
> confusing, so I might have failed to notice it).

I'll need to study that a bit more. My question only concerns the 2.4GHz
band ... as far as i know DFS only applies to the 5GHZ band, correct?

> Please ask in the linux-wireless mailinglist at vger.kernel.org.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll do that.

Jan

Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

[Stefan Monnier]

>>> 2. Debian 8.6 w MATE run from LIVE DVD _displays_ the correct time
>>> 3. Debian 8.6 w MATE installed from DVD 1 of 13 with aid of custom
>>> preseed.cfg
>>> _displays_ a time 5 hours earlier.
>> My guess: the Live DVD uses NTP so as not to depend on the hwclock
>> whereas your installs don't.
> As the saying goes, "that does not compute".  The machine in question has not
> been connected to the internet, or any other network, for several years ;/

Simple: over all these years its lust for a network connection was so
strong that it managed to find a way to get to the Internet.


Stefan

Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/22/2016 2:56 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

2. Debian 8.6 w MATE run from LIVE DVD _displays_ the correct time
3. Debian 8.6 w MATE installed from DVD 1 of 13 with aid of custom
preseed.cfg
   _displays_ a time 5 hours earlier.


My guess: the Live DVD uses NTP so as not to depend on the hwclock
whereas your installs don't.


As the saying goes, "that does not compute". The machine in 
question has not been connected to the internet, or any other 
network, for several years ;/

Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

[Stefan Monnier]

>2. Debian 8.6 w MATE run from LIVE DVD _displays_ the correct time
>3. Debian 8.6 w MATE installed from DVD 1 of 13 with aid of custom
> preseed.cfg
>   _displays_ a time 5 hours earlier.

My guess: the Live DVD uses NTP so as not to depend on the hwclock
whereas your installs don't.


Stefan

Re: Installing Gutenprint

[Stefan Monnier]

> I am an 86 year old Photoshop Guru and having trouble printing from PS
> in OS 10.12.
> So I found Gutenprint and downloaded the latest version for my Epson
> 4880. But what do I do now?

First things first: install Debian.


Stefan

Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

[Brian]

On Sat 22 Oct 2016 at 13:54:28 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> >On 10/17/2016 10:22 AM, Brian wrote:
> >>
> >>   https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick
> >>
> >>looks to be right up your street and capable of adapting to
> >>your needs.
> >
> >I'd seen it and caused me to think what I wanted might be reasonable.
> > I tried to follow it but got tangled up. Perhaps should try again
> >after a good night's sleep.
> 
> That was one major problem. Another is the author's style was not suitable
> for me.

You leave your "major problem" unexpressed (will we ever know?) but have
focussed on concerns about the style on the wiki page at

   https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick

If the author had known his efforts were not suitable for Richard Owlett
I'm sure he would have written differently. He should be reprimanded for
not tailoring his advice to your needs. Get in touch and badger him to
amend his ways. From all accounts, he is a very reasonable and pleasant
chap.

It's a wiki, of course. Guess what? You can make it better.

> It probably would fine someone whose goal was identical to the author's. I
> believe it has all the pieces. I will attempt to follow a dictum I heard
> decades ago - Plan the Work. Work the Plan.

By God! I wish I had said that.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Will jmtpfs be able to connect the Google Nexus 5X to the debian computer?

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 22/10/16 19:15, deloptes wrote:

Not to forget mtp


MTP works for me with my Nexus 5X on unstable under XFCE with thunar and 
gvfs-backends:

thunar 1.6.10-4 amd64
gvfs-backends 1.30.1.1-1 amd64

All I have to do on the Nexus 5X is switch "Use USB for" from "Charging" 
to "File transfers" (MTP) and click on the Nexus 5X icon in thunar.


I am running the latest Cyanogenmod 13.0 release (the 20 August "SNAPSHOT").

Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

bluetooth error

[Manoel Pedro de Araújo]

Hi,

I have installed debian jessie on a  Samsung X40 notebook, when the
bluetooth is working, but it shows an error as shown bellow

Out 22 16:56:18 debian bluetoothd[824]: Sap driver initialization failed.
Out 22 16:56:18 debian bluetoothd[824]: sap-server: Operation not permitted
(1)
Out 22 16:56:18 debian bluetoothd[824]: hci0 Load Connection Parameters
failed: Unk...1)

Maybe is this a problem? Please, help me
-- 
Manoel

Re: Disabling transmission of beacon frames

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> AP beacon).  It is also likely forbidden in any channels where DSS
> (weather radar detection) must be performed, as this is only performed
> by APs.

Make that DFS.  Sorry for the typo.

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: From "physical install DVD's" to "special install USB flash drive" - HOW?

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/17/2016 10:33 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 10/17/2016 10:22 AM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 17 Oct 2016 at 09:40:31 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
[snip

Due to limited bandwidth *EVERYTHING SHALL* be done from a
physical set of purchased DVD's [Jessie 8.6].

I explicitly want a flash drive that functions as an install
medium. I *DO NOT* wish to install to the flash drive (not 'Debian to Go').
It shall be bootable
It shall be able to install Debian on any machine which can
boot from a USB device.
It shall have a repository with contents on all 13 DVD's.
It shall have multiple multiple editable preseed.cfg files.


   https://wiki.debian.org/Installation+Archive+USBStick

looks to be right up your street and capable of adapting to
your needs.


I'd seen it and caused me to think what I wanted might be reasonable.
 I tried to follow it but got tangled up. Perhaps should try again
after a good night's sleep.


That was one major problem. Another is the author's style was not 
suitable for me.
It probably would fine someone whose goal was identical to the 
author's. I believe it has all the pieces. I will attempt to 
follow a dictum I heard decades ago - Plan the Work. Work the Plan.



I envision a file structure of
/dev/sdX
/alphaoptional partition for GRUB or LILO
/betabootable installer - essentially DVD 1 of 13
/gammarepository - contents of DVD 2 -> DVD 13
/deltacollection of preseed.cfg files


That too looks like it could be accommodated but the need to
partitionisn't necessary.


It is necessary to match goals and constraints I haven't 
described in detail.


I'll try to demonstrate something in a week or so.
Some thought is needed on the "Plan the Work" step.

Re: Apache log vragen

[Luuk]

On 22-10-16 19:14, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Op 22-10-16 om 17:44 schreef Luuk:

On 22-10-16 16:49, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Hallo,

Weten jullie wat onderstaande precies doet, ik zie het vele malen:

access.log:118.239.166.29 - - [17/Oct/2016:05:09:50 +0200] "CONNECT
search.yahoo.com:443 HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "-"

HTTP302 zie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_302

Het gaat me erom, wat die "CONNECT" betekent. Dat staat niet in de de
Wikipedia. Alleen dat het bestand blijkbaar gevonden is.

Het genoemde IP hoort niet bij "search.yahoo.com".



Iemand vanaf ipadres 118.239.166.29 (da's ergens in china) maakt 
verbinding met jouw server en stuurt dan een HTTP-opdracht 'CONNECT', 
met de parameters 'search.yahoo.com'


Deze conclusie trok ik na het lezen van dit:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6594604/connect-request-to-a-forward-http-proxy-over-an-ssl-connection

;)

dpkg-reconfigure locales

[Listeiro 037]

Saudações a todos.

Estive pesquisando sobre caracteres em terminal e gostaria de saber
sobre um locale em Debian que não encontrei.

Chama-se Sundanese. Existe? Não existe?

O código que encontrei pareceu ser su e su_ID.

Pode ser que encontre mais outros que não existem. Mas por enquanto é
este.

Se não existir, como fazer a faixa de unicode deles aparecer no
terminal?

Desde já agradeço.

Re: plasma not starting

[David Baron]

On יום שבת, 22 באוקטובר 2016 18:51:45 IDT Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2016-10-22 11:30 -0400, Christopher Judd wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> >  I'm running testing amd64.  After upgrading about a week ago, plasma
> >  will
> > 
> > not start, I get the error message "Plasma is unable to start as it could
> > not use OpenGL2", or something similar.  I have an nvidia card with the
> > nvidia- legacy-304xx driver installed.  LXDE runs fine.  Does anyone know
> > what the issue is here, or how I can debug this?  Please cc me, as I'm
> > not currently subscribed to the list.  Thanks.
> 
> Apparently OpenGL is broken in the 304.132 Nvidia drivers[1,2].
> 
> Cheers,
>Sven
> 
> 
> 1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=840342
> 2. https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/968892/

1. Do not start compositing on plasma start.  Edit ./config/kwinrc to make sure 
of this, restart plasmashell. Will run at least.
2. Downgrade the legacy-304xx stuff the Jessie-backports. These apparently do 
work!

Re: Apache log vragen

[Paul van der Vlis]

Op 22-10-16 om 17:44 schreef Luuk:
> 
> On 22-10-16 16:49, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> Hallo,
>>
>> Weten jullie wat onderstaande precies doet, ik zie het vele malen:
>>
>> access.log:118.239.166.29 - - [17/Oct/2016:05:09:50 +0200] "CONNECT
>> search.yahoo.com:443 HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "-"
> 
> HTTP302 zie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_302

Het gaat me erom, wat die "CONNECT" betekent. Dat staat niet in de de
Wikipedia. Alleen dat het bestand blijkbaar gevonden is.

Het genoemde IP hoort niet bij "search.yahoo.com".

>> En betekent onderstaande dat het bestand met succes geupload is?
>>
>> commo/access.log:50.62.161.102 - - [17/Oct/2016:09:24:29 +0200] "POST
>> /xmlrpc.php HTTP/1.1" 403 212 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux
>> x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0"
> 
> HTTP403 zie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_403

Ah, duidelijk. Dit is dus mislukt.

>> Wat me opvalt is dat de datum van het bestand veel ouder is dan 17
>> oktober.
> 
> da's bij mij ook zo..
> 
> ?

Als het nu gelukt was, dan was hier iemand bezig zijn sporen uit te wissen.

Groet,
Paul.


-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: plasma not starting

[Sven Joachim]

On 2016-10-22 11:30 -0400, Christopher Judd wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  I'm running testing amd64.  After upgrading about a week ago, plasma 
> will 
> not start, I get the error message "Plasma is unable to start as it could not 
> use OpenGL2", or something similar.  I have an nvidia card with the nvidia-
> legacy-304xx driver installed.  LXDE runs fine.  Does anyone know what the 
> issue is here, or how I can debug this?  Please cc me, as I'm not currently 
> subscribed to the list.  Thanks.

Apparently OpenGL is broken in the 304.132 Nvidia drivers[1,2].

Cheers,
   Sven


1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=840342
2. https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/968892/

Is possable to use mipi-csi interface on debian?

[yongjie989]

Hi,

Is possable to use mipi-csi interface on debian? and howto? Are there any 
someone can share more information? Thank you.



Best Regards,
Ethan

plasma not starting

[Christopher Judd]

Hi,

 I'm running testing amd64.  After upgrading about a week ago, plasma will 
not start, I get the error message "Plasma is unable to start as it could not 
use OpenGL2", or something similar.  I have an nvidia card with the nvidia-
legacy-304xx driver installed.  LXDE runs fine.  Does anyone know what the 
issue is here, or how I can debug this?  Please cc me, as I'm not currently 
subscribed to the list.  Thanks.

-Chris

---
Christopher Judd, Ph.D.
chris.j...@alum.rpi.edu

Re: Apache log vragen

[Luuk]

On 22-10-16 16:49, Paul van der Vlis wrote:

Hallo,

Weten jullie wat onderstaande precies doet, ik zie het vele malen:

access.log:118.239.166.29 - - [17/Oct/2016:05:09:50 +0200] "CONNECT
search.yahoo.com:443 HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "-"


HTTP302 zie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_302



En betekent onderstaande dat het bestand met succes geupload is?

commo/access.log:50.62.161.102 - - [17/Oct/2016:09:24:29 +0200] "POST
/xmlrpc.php HTTP/1.1" 403 212 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux
x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0"


HTTP403 zie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_403




Wat me opvalt is dat de datum van het bestand veel ouder is dan 17 oktober.


da's bij mij ook zo..

?

;)

Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

[Joe]

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:57:05 -0500
David Wright  wrote:

> On Fri 21 Oct 2016 at 18:47:43 (+0100), Joe wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:58:42 -0500
> > David Wright  wrote:  
> > > 
> > > . Neither OS was running when Civil Time changed to/from DST,
> > > . After the time changed, one OS has run, updating the Local Time
> > > to match Civil Time, . Another OS is just being booted up.
> > > 
> > > What Local Time will eventually be displayed by this system?
> > >   
> > DST may well be the answer.  
> 
> (I can't see how that answers anything, as I hadn't specified which
> way time changed, nor can I see why it would be an answer in either
> case.)

It is *a* reason for inter-OS time shifting, it may be applicable to
your or other peoples' cases.
> 
> My concern is that the second OS to boot might apply the time change
> in exactly the same manner as the first one did and should have done.
> So the system's Local Time would end up an hour fast (were this late
> Spring) or slow (were this late Fall) after the second OS applied its
> own time change.
> 
> Or IOW what mechanism is there for one OS to find out whether another
> OS has altered the RTC by an hour any time recently?¹
> 
> > If I boot Linux on my Win8 laptop in the
> > summer, it knows the time perfectly well. If I now boot Win8, the
> > clock is an hour ahead. It does use a network time source but it
> > does not query the source on boot, or soon afterwards. Eventually
> > it will do so, but on a fixed schedule, so not for days, and there
> > seems to be no way to fix it. It's not just the first time after
> > DST arrives, it's every time.  
> 
> But isn't that just a configuration problem which I assume is unusual
> in that most people are not reporting that problem? What's more, you
> don't say whether your RTC is running UTC or some other time.
> 
> Ignoring drift, a RTC running UTC never changes, so the hardware
> always knows the correct time. The Local Time displayed is just a
> matter of sensible configuration.
> 
> My question, posed above, is *only* of concern where the RTC is
> running non-UTC, ie it gets fiddled with twice a year. At these two
> times, the RTC could be subject to incorrect alterations by
> erroneously configured OSes, or even multiple OSes perfectly
> configured, but unaware of each other's actions.

I'm making the point that it isn't just at the point of change of DST
that this happens, but at any time when DST is active. Both OSes use
network time updates routinely, not just when they think the clock is
wrong (how could they tell otherwise?).

The issue is that when I made the Linux installation, I told it that
the hardware clock should be set to UTC (the default), whereas the
Windows installation will always assume local time. The two OSes will
always be an hour out during the DST period, and if you're not in the
UTC time zone, there will be a further offset at all times. This has
always been an issue when dual-booting, when you would normally tell
Linux to consider the HW clock to use local time as a workaround.

> 
> > I give it a kick manually, which of course involves entering an
> > admin password...  
> 
> which is the necessity we're trying to avoid.
> 
> ¹ There's another similar concern should you have more than one OS
> thinking it's responsible for measuring and taking account of clock
> drift. Whether this is going to concern people who are rebooting OSes
> all the time is moot.
> 
For most computers, a second or two of clock drift won't matter, if
network time is being used to reset it every few days or once per boot.

I found plenty of people with this problem, and a few solutions. None
of them worked, of course, this is the Internet. The brute force and
ignorance answer is a script to force a network time update on Windows
soon after boot, as Linux does, but it happens to me so rarely that I
haven't yet worked up the enthusiasm. There's apparently no Windows
configuration flag to do this, or at least not in 8.

The laptop runs Windows pretty much all the time, but I occasionally
visit an establishment with free public wifi. I won't use Windows on a
network like that, so I have a Debian installation on a USB hard drive
which I boot from on those occasions, which resets my hardware clock to
UTC. This *is* the behaviour I want when booting my netbook from this
drive, which I do more often, so there's no configuration which will
keep the laptop happy.

-- 
Joe

[MY solution] Re: Increase font size of GRUB menu?

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/18/2016 8:51 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

With GRUB2 on Jessie, how do I increase the menu's font _size_ .
A Google search wandered around my problem without addressing it.
I did discover that that GRUB was using a resolution that matched
my monitor's settings.

[When menu comes up go to command mode by typing 'c'. Then enter
'vbeinfo' to see list of supported resolutions. In my case the
active resolution was listed as 1280 x 1024.]


Please note the "MY solution" in the subject line as I did not 
follow some advice in this thread. In ways this IS an "XY 
Problem" as I never specified some goals and constraints.


SOURCES:
 1. this thread
 2. 
https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Theme-file-format.html#Fonts

 3. https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1357
 4. http://grub.gibibit.com/New_font_format
 5. https://manned.org/grub-mkfont.1

PROCEDURE:
  [AS ROOT]
apt-get install ttf-unifont
grub-mkfont -s 32 -o /boot/grub/fonts/unicode.pf2 \
   /usr/share/fonts/truetype/unifont/unifont.ttf

COMMENTS:
  1. I chose a character height of 32 pixels as on my 1024 line 
screen that

 gives me a nominal 32 lines of text per screen.
  2. I chose to replace the existing unicode.pf2 file as that 
gives a single
 change point if I later desire a different character 
height. I don't
 foresee it ever being changed during the life of the 
installation. It is
 my intention to work it into my preseed.cfg file - must do 
more research on how.

Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

[Joe]

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:57:05 -0500
David Wright  wrote:

> On Fri 21 Oct 2016 at 18:47:43 (+0100), Joe wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:58:42 -0500
> > David Wright  wrote:  
> > > 
> > > . Neither OS was running when Civil Time changed to/from DST,
> > > . After the time changed, one OS has run, updating the Local Time
> > > to match Civil Time, . Another OS is just being booted up.
> > > 
> > > What Local Time will eventually be displayed by this system?
> > >   
> > DST may well be the answer.  
> 
> (I can't see how that answers anything, as I hadn't specified which
> way time changed, nor can I see why it would be an answer in either
> case.)
> 
> My concern is that the second OS to boot might apply the time change
> in exactly the same manner as the first one did and should have done.
> So the system's Local Time would end up an hour fast (were this late
> Spring) or slow (were this late Fall) after the second OS applied its
> own time change.
> 
> Or IOW what mechanism is there for one OS to find out whether another
> OS has altered the RTC by an hour any time recently?¹
> 
> > If I boot Linux on my Win8 laptop in the
> > summer, it knows the time perfectly well. If I now boot Win8, the
> > clock is an hour ahead. It does use a network time source but it
> > does not query the source on boot, or soon afterwards. Eventually
> > it will do so, but on a fixed schedule, so not for days, and there
> > seems to be no way to fix it. It's not just the first time after
> > DST arrives, it's every time.  
> 
> But isn't that just a configuration problem which I assume is unusual
> in that most people are not reporting that problem? What's more, you
> don't say whether your RTC is running UTC or some other time.
> 
> Ignoring drift, a RTC running UTC never changes, so the hardware
> always knows the correct time. The Local Time displayed is just a
> matter of sensible configuration.
> 
> My question, posed above, is *only* of concern where the RTC is
> running non-UTC, ie it gets fiddled with twice a year. At these two
> times, the RTC could be subject to incorrect alterations by
> erroneously configured OSes, or even multiple OSes perfectly
> configured, but unaware of each other's actions.
> 
> > I give it a kick manually, which of course involves entering an
> > admin password...  
> 
> which is the necessity we're trying to avoid.
> 
> ¹ There's another similar concern should you have more than one OS
> thinking it's responsible for measuring and taking account of clock
> drift. Whether this is going to concern people who are rebooting OSes
> all the time is moot.
> 
> Cheers,
> David.
> 

Re: Time quandry when dual boot with WinXP Pro

[David Wright]

On Fri 21 Oct 2016 at 18:47:43 (+0100), Joe wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 09:58:42 -0500
> David Wright  wrote:
> > 
> > . Neither OS was running when Civil Time changed to/from DST,
> > . After the time changed, one OS has run, updating the Local Time to
> > match Civil Time, . Another OS is just being booted up.
> > 
> > What Local Time will eventually be displayed by this system?
> > 
> DST may well be the answer.

(I can't see how that answers anything, as I hadn't specified which way
time changed, nor can I see why it would be an answer in either case.)

My concern is that the second OS to boot might apply the time change
in exactly the same manner as the first one did and should have done.
So the system's Local Time would end up an hour fast (were this late
Spring) or slow (were this late Fall) after the second OS applied its
own time change.

Or IOW what mechanism is there for one OS to find out whether another
OS has altered the RTC by an hour any time recently?¹

> If I boot Linux on my Win8 laptop in the
> summer, it knows the time perfectly well. If I now boot Win8, the clock
> is an hour ahead. It does use a network time source but it does not
> query the source on boot, or soon afterwards. Eventually it will do so,
> but on a fixed schedule, so not for days, and there seems to be no way
> to fix it. It's not just the first time after DST arrives, it's every
> time.

But isn't that just a configuration problem which I assume is unusual
in that most people are not reporting that problem? What's more, you
don't say whether your RTC is running UTC or some other time.

Ignoring drift, a RTC running UTC never changes, so the hardware
always knows the correct time. The Local Time displayed is just a
matter of sensible configuration.

My question, posed above, is *only* of concern where the RTC is running
non-UTC, ie it gets fiddled with twice a year. At these two times, the
RTC could be subject to incorrect alterations by erroneously configured
OSes, or even multiple OSes perfectly configured, but unaware of each
other's actions.

> I give it a kick manually, which of course involves entering an admin
> password...

which is the necessity we're trying to avoid.

¹ There's another similar concern should you have more than one OS
thinking it's responsible for measuring and taking account of clock
drift. Whether this is going to concern people who are rebooting OSes
all the time is moot.

Cheers,
David.

Middle mouse button stopped panning in gimp

[Markus Grunwald]

Hello,

Usually I could press the middle mouse button (of my synaptics
touchpad) to pan an image around in gimp. This stopped working today
:(

What can I do?

% gimp --version
GNU Image Manipulation Program Version 2.8.18

ii  gimp  2.8.18-1  amd64   
  GNU Image Manipulation Program

cu
--
Markus Grunwald

Apache log vragen

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hallo,

Weten jullie wat onderstaande precies doet, ik zie het vele malen:

access.log:118.239.166.29 - - [17/Oct/2016:05:09:50 +0200] "CONNECT
search.yahoo.com:443 HTTP/1.1" 302 - "-" "-"

En betekent onderstaande dat het bestand met succes geupload is?

commo/access.log:50.62.161.102 - - [17/Oct/2016:09:24:29 +0200] "POST
/xmlrpc.php HTTP/1.1" 403 212 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux
x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0"

Wat me opvalt is dat de datum van het bestand veel ouder is dan 17 oktober.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Paul van der Vlis.


-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

[OT] Conky y Rhythmbox

[X]

Hola a todos.

He hecho un conky para mi escritorio, para ver algunos datos,
temperaturas,...etc.Y he hecho una parte en la que me mostrará
información sobre el archivo que se está reproduciendo en Rhythmbox
(Artista, Album, Tiempo transcurrido,...). Esta parte la he metido en un
"condicional", de forma que la sección solo aparezca cuando se esta
reproduciendo un archivo.

La sección de .conkyrc relativa a la "información musical" es esta:

${if_running rhythmbox}
${font Hyperion Sunset BRK:style=Bold}${color1}MUSICA${color2}${font}
${hr 2}
${alignc}${color2}${exec rhythmbox-client --print-playing-format=%aa}
${alignc}${color2}${exec rhythmbox-client --print-playing-format=%tt}
${alignc}${color2}${exec rhythmbox-client --print-playing-format=%at}
${alignc}${color2}${exec rhythmbox-client
--print-playing-format=%te}/${color2}${exec rhythmbox-client
--print-playing-format=%td}
${endif}


Funciona todo bien. El único problema es que cuando cierro Rhythmbox, el
programa vuelve a iniciarse. Descartando cosas he llegado a la
conclusión de que el problema está en las lineas 3, 4, 5 y 6. Al
ejecutar "ryhthmbox-client" se inicia Rhythmbox. Pero supongo que cuando
cierro Rhythmbox, conky no debería leer las lineas que hay entre el
"if_running" y el "endif". ¿O estoy utilizando mal el "if"?


A ver si alguien me puede echar una mano.

Gracias

Re: Ajuda com virtualbox 5.0.26 + kernel 4.7.0.1-686

[Vinicius]

Em 21-10-2016 16:44, Thiago Canuto Ferreira escreveu:

Em Sex, 2016-10-21 às 15:05 -0200, S escreveu:

Boa tarde a todos!
Não sei se o problema é específico do Debian, mas está ocorrendo desde a
atualização do kernel de 4.6.0 para 4.7.0, distro testing (stretch).

Sempre que se tenta compilar os módulos do virtualbox 5.0.26 ocorre o
seguinte erro:

-X-
/etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms:
Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.7.0-1-686-pae (i686)
Consult /var/lib/dkms/vboxhost/5.0.26/build/make.log for more information.
X--

Procurei pelo google, mas só acho respostas para problemas semelhantes
antigos.
Anexo a este o make.log acima.

Interessante que em outra máquina com a mesma distro, mas arquitetura
AMD64, os módulos são compilados sem problema algum e o virtualbox
5.0.26 funciona corretamente.

Agradeço a quem puder ajudar.


Vinicius





Boa tarde Vinícius.

Não seria melhor vc instalar a versão estável Jessie em vez de usar a
testing?

Acredito que com a estável vc não terá este tipo de problemas.



Bom dia, Thiago!

Isso é verdade, mas estou utilizando a testing principalmente por estar 
aguardando que se torne estável, e isto pode ocorrer antes que aqui na 
empresa terminemos um novo sistema baseado em linux, que normalmente não 
deverá sofrer atualizações após lançado, a não ser devido a algum bug 
importante. Para o desenvolvimento a distro é o Jessie, mas em paralelo 
uso a testing no meu desktop. Caso a testing se torne estável a tempo, 
já estará testada e eventualmente poderá ser utilizada. Isto para 
garantir uma longa vida ao produto.



abs


Vinicius

Re: alt F2 in kde does not work

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 10:01 AM, kamaraju kusumanchi
 wrote:
> Thanks Kushal. Now I have something to search for.
>
> When I run krunner from the konsole terminal, the little input window
> pops up but I see a segmentation fault on the terminal. That explains
> why I can't launch any launch any applications from it.
>
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~ % krunner
> KCrash: crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = krunner path = /usr/bin pid = 4640
> KCrash: Arguments: /usr/bin/krunner
> zsh: segmentation fault  krunner
>

Looks like someone already filed a bug report on this:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=829614#10  . I will
try the suggestions listed there and ping back if I need more help.

thanks
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Fwd: Re: archivemail default setup

[Stephan Beck]

To the list as well...


 Forwarded Message 
Subject: Re: archivemail default setup
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:00:00 +
From: Stephan Beck 
Reply-To: sb...@secure.mailbox.org
To: Mark Fletcher 

Hi Mark,

Mark Fletcher:
> Hello again
> 
> A little while back I installed archivemail on Jessie, to delete mail 
> from my local mailbox when it is more than a month old.
> 
> The command I am running is:
> 
> archivemail --output-dir=/home/mark/Mail/ -d 31 --delete /var/mail/mark
> 
> My mailbox is in /var/mail/mark. I didn't choose to put it there, that 
> is where it went when the system was installed. I am not sure if that is 
> thanks to the default settings of exim4, mutt, or something else.
> 
> Now /var/mail is owned by root:mail and had access 775. /var/mail/mark 
> is owned by mark:mail and has permissions 660.
> 
> Whenever I ran archivemail as mark, it was complaining that it did not 
> have write access to /var/mail (it wanted to write a lock file) and then 
> proceeded to say it was deleting 0 messages.
> 
> The oldest messages in my mail folder are dated September 18th and as 
> such should have been deleted by now. They are not being because, I 
> suppose, of the failure to write the lock file. 
> 
> When I run archivemail as root it complains that I am not the owner of 
> the mailbox and refuses to do anything.

You may use the setgid command option (on /var/mail) in order to achieve
that any new file created there (and the directory /var/mail/mark is
just a file like that) has its group ownership set to the group owner of
the directory (which should be "mail") rather the group ownership of the
file's creator.
ls -l /var/mail
(as root)
chmod g+s /var/mail
Then you have to add user mark to the mail group:
(as root)
adduser mark mail
(effective upon next login)
If you then start
/usr/bin/archivemail as user mark (who as a member of the group "mail"
has r/w access to all files in /var/mail/mark)

it should have access to the files.

> 
> It seems that if the mailbox is in the default out-of-the-box place then 
> archivemail can't use it properly. It seems like archivemail is 
> expecting my mailbox (its input) to be in a folder to which I will have 
> write access. It seems to me that a package should ship with default 
> assumptions that can be met by the other packages in the distro.
> 
> Now, I have got away from the error by making /var/mail world-writable, 
> but I don't like that solution. Is there a better one? Will I have to 
> move my mailbox to a different location, eg my home directory, and if so 
> how do I safely do that in a way that won't break anything (I am using 
> exim4 and mutt and I don't know what other infrastructure might be 
> involved that would care, for example I keep hearing about something 
> called procmail but don't know if that is actually involved in handling 
> mail on my system)

To see where the binary is located:
echo $(which procmail)
Yes, procmail is probably involved as Mail Delivery Agent (MDA), locally
delivering the mail from the MTA (exim4) to your local mail account mark.
You might check this setting in the appropriate exim4 conf file.


My 2 cents

Stephan

Re: alt F2 in kde does not work

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:52:58 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:

Hello kamaraju,

>If you do not mind, could you please provide the list of packages

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Re: alt F2 in kde does not work

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Kushal Kumaran  wrote:
> kamaraju kusumanchi  writes:
>
>>
>> I know that Alt+F2 does not start konsole. What is happening is that
>> the little input window pops up when I press Alt+F2. But when I enter
>> konsole in it and press Enter key, nothing happens. That is the
>> problem.
>
> The little input window is the program called krunner.  Using that term
> in web searches might lead to more insight.  You might also start
> krunner from a shell and see if it produces any errors.
>

Thanks Kushal. Now I have something to search for.

When I run krunner from the konsole terminal, the little input window
pops up but I see a segmentation fault on the terminal. That explains
why I can't launch any launch any applications from it.

rajulocal@hogwarts ~ % krunner
KCrash: crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2
KCrash: Application Name = krunner path = /usr/bin pid = 4640
KCrash: Arguments: /usr/bin/krunner
zsh: segmentation fault  krunner

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Re: Disabling transmission of beacon frames

[Dan Purgert]

Jan Bakuwel wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As far as I'm aware, IEEE802.11 defines the two modes a wifi AP and
> client can establish communication, passive (AP broadcasts SSID, clients
> connects to SSID) and active (AP doesn't broadcast SSID, client
> broadcasts SSID probe and AP then sends a probe response).

Have never heard of "active mode" wifi before.  Doubt it'd be supported
on any generic stuff you can get from bestbuy (etc.) though.  Maybe if
you flash to ddwrt / tomato / etc ... but even there, maybe not.


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Re: alt F2 in kde does not work

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:33 AM, Brad Rogers  wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 00:57:43 -0400
> kamaraju kusumanchi  wrote:
>
> Hello kamaraju,
>
>>No, it is the other way around. Something is wrong with the
>>application that starts when we press Alt+F2.
>
> I don't often use that method to launch programs myself, so I just tried
> it out of curiosity.  All I can tell you is that it works for me.
> Software launches without problem from there.
>
> Sadly, I have no idea where to look to diagnose what's wrong.
>

Hi Brad,
If you do not mind, could you please provide the list of packages
installed on your machine? You can email it to me directly
(raju.mailingl...@gmail.com) or provide a link to download. I would
like to compare the list with mine.

The list can be obtained by running
dpkg -l | grep ^ii > installed_packages.txt

thanks
raju
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Re: Disabling transmission of beacon frames

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Jan Bakuwel wrote:
> Does anyone know if it's possible to disable passive mode on an AP? It
> is possible to set the SSID to hidden but this does not stop the
> broadcasts, it just broadcasts frames with a null SSID. Stopping the
> broadcasts altogether (and as a consequence the client must use active
> mode, ie. needs to send probes) will result in no EMR when wifi is not
> in use, in other words AP will only listen not transmit in that case,
> yet wifi is available when needed.

The AP would have to switch to standard beaconning while *any* station
is associated, otherwise it could have nefarious effects on network
performance.

Also, beacon-less infrasctructure mode CANNOT work on a number of bands
where the stations are forced to operate in passive mode (i.e. they
cannot issue a probe request to a channel where they did not receive an
AP beacon).  It is also likely forbidden in any channels where DSS
(weather radar detection) must be performed, as this is only performed
by APs.

So, in theory this would work provided the adapter firmware allows for
it in the first place, and it is restricted to channels where clients
are allowed to actively probe for APs -- which is information readly
available on the regdb (regulatory database).  However, I see no way to
control this in /sbin/iw for infrastructure mode (but I find iw terribly
confusing, so I might have failed to notice it).

Please ask in the linux-wireless mailinglist at vger.kernel.org.

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how to move console up half a character?

[積丹尼 Dan Jacobson]

On the chvt 1..6 terminals there is a white line at the bottom of my
laptop's screen that I would like to avoid.

How can I move the whole console upwards half a character?

But then that would shove the top line halfway off the screen.
So I suppose I need to make the number of rows one less.

Re: Most compatible way to prepare USB stick

[Curt]

On 2016-10-20, Mark Fletcher  wrote:
> Hello the list!
>
> I have gotten myself all turned around and confused on this supposedly 
> simple topic, so I'm hoping for a little bit of advice.
>
> I have a USB stick I have previously used as a boot medium for Debian 
> installers and live systems. Now I want to wipe it and repurpose it to 
> being a generic place to store data for portability between systems. The 
> key criterion is that it should be maximally compatible -- I want to be 
> able to read and ideally write the stick on Debian, OSX for Mac users 
> and Windows (7 and later).
>
> It's a 4GB stick and I am thinking of using all the space in a single 
> partition.
>

I bought a 16 gb Sancruiser (spelling?) USB stick formatted FAT (32 bit) which
works fine on Windows 10, my piano, and here on Squeezy--I mean Wheezy, without
further ado. I don't have a Mac, but, well, here's what my favorite search
engine tells me (no, it's not German--I guess I'll just repeat this over and
over again like I'm in the brain-washing business and people care about my
over-wrought opinions like that other guy):

http://www.howtogeek.com/73178/what-file-system-should-i-use-for-my-usb-drive/

 If you are sharing a drive between computers and don’t need to use big files,
 FAT32 works almost everywhere but doesn’t support files bigger than 4GB. This
 is the default for flash drives since it works everywhere.

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Re: Instalando OpenOffice en Debian

[Roberto José Blandino Cisneros]

>> Las motivaciones por las que quiero instalar OpenOffice son mías, y creo
>> que nadie puede decirme qué puedo instalar o no. Sólo he preguntado por qué
>> podía haberme dado problemas y cómo hacer algo, por lo que este comentario
>> considero que es del todo inapropiado.

Cada quien tiene sus motivos, comenté por que quizás supuse yo, que no
los conocía, si por alguna razón aun desea usar openoffice es su
decisión y pues al menos yo no me opongo. Entrele.

>
>
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Re: Instalando OpenOffice en Debian

[Roberto José Blandino Cisneros]

2016-10-20 2:06 GMT-06:00 Rafael Cantos Villanueva :
>
> 2016-10-16 5:38 GMT-06:00 Rafael Cantos Villanueva :
>>>
>>> Buenas a todos
>>>
>>> he intentado instalar OpenOffice 4.1.3 en Debian Jessie, y me lo ha
>>> instalado parece que sin problemas después de descargarlo y ejecutar el
>>> comando correspondiente dpkg -i. Luego, he intentado instalar los
>>> lanzadores
>>> para el menú, pero aquí se produce algún fallo, sin especificar qué pasó,
>>> y
>>> no se completa el proceso. Debo de decir que no desinstalé previamente
>>> LibreOffice. ¿Alguien sabría decirme qué hice mal?
>>> Estos son los pasos que seguí, salvo el de desinstalar Libreoffice:
>>>
>>> https://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/1177/Instalar-Openoffice-4-en-Ubuntu-Mint-y-Debian.html
>>
>> Para empezar Debian removió OpenOffice desde Wheezy, LibreOffice ha
>> reemplazado a OpenOffice. Aunque al inicio quedé desconcertado de este
>> cambio luego me di cuenta que con OpenOffice sucedió lo mismo que con
>> mysql y mariadb, OpenOffice a quedado abandonado y su avance es
>> demasiado lento y se va quedando atras además de poseer bugs que
>> LibreOffice ya ha superado.
>>
>> Debian en su compromiso de ofrecer estabilidad ha decidido dejar
>> OpenOffice, pero es de cada quien escoger el paquete deseado al final.
>> Recordemos el principal objetivo de Debian "ESTABILIDAD". Si
>> OpenOffice va contra esta regla ¿Para que instalarlo?
>>
>> Las motivaciones por las que quiero instalar OpenOffice son mías, y creo
>> que nadie puede decirme qué puedo instalar o no. Sólo he preguntado por qué
>> podía haberme dado problemas y cómo hacer algo, por lo que este comentario
>> considero que es del todo inapropiado.
>
>
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Re: Open relay

[Geert Stappers]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 12:54:20AM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Op 22-10-16 om 00:11 schreef Geert Stappers:
> 
> > Ding dat ik mis, eigenlijk ding dat ik vermoed, is "mydestination".
> > Staat in main.cf. Als daar hotmail.com bij staat, dan heb je bestaand 
> > gedrag.
> 
> Nee, daar staat geen hotmail bij.
> 
> Wat ik op het moment doe is alles weigeren van een bepaalde afzender
> (p...@puk.nl in mijn voorbeeld), en dit werkt verbazend goed.
 
Acknowledge


> De spam heeft namelijk steeds die afzender, en dat is ook de
> "Authenticated sender", dus diegene die een paswoord zou moeten hebben
> op mijn server (maar niet heeft).
> 
> Dit heb ik gedaan door een extra "check_sender_access" toe te voegen
> voor "permit_sasl_authenticated".
> 
> Ik ben bang dat ze een andere afzender gaan gebruiken, maar tot nu toe niet.
> 
> Ik begrijp er niks van hoe ze dit voor elkaar krijgen.

Het goede is dat je wel ziet dat er misbruik is.

Mocht er duidelijkheid komen over wat aan de hand is/was,
meldt dat dan als je blieft. Deze e-mail zodat geen "self reply" nodig is.

Self replies zijn overigens niet erg. Waar het mij om gaat is dat ik wil
laten merken dat deze mailinglist wel degelijk gelezen wordt.

Groeten
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Re: archivemail default setup

[Teemu Likonen]

Mark Fletcher [2016-10-22 14:45:19+09] wrote:

> The command I am running is:
>
> archivemail --output-dir=/home/mark/Mail/ -d 31 --delete /var/mail/mark
>
> My mailbox is in /var/mail/mark. I didn't choose to put it there, that 
> is where it went when the system was installed. I am not sure if that is 
> thanks to the default settings of exim4, mutt, or something else.
>
> Now /var/mail is owned by root:mail and had access 775. /var/mail/mark 
> is owned by mark:mail and has permissions 660.
>
> Whenever I ran archivemail as mark, it was complaining that it did not 
> have write access to /var/mail (it wanted to write a lock file) and then 
> proceeded to say it was deleting 0 messages.

You can configure Exim to deliver mail to mailbox format in ~/Maildir
directory. Just run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and you can choose
the delivery option. Note that if you use Procmail and the file
~/.procmailrc exists then its default is to deliver to /var/mail/$USER.
If ~/.procmailrc exists you also need to change its delivery options.
There are different options for that:

 1. Edit ~/.procmailrc file and put the line "DEFAULT=$HOME/Maildir/",
probably at the beginning. It must have trailing "/" because in
Procmail config the trailing character defines the mailbox format
(maildir format in this case).

 2. Make Procmail's last rule deliver to your preferred default:

:0
$HOME/Maildir/

Also, you'll probably want to configure Mutt to read from ~/Maildir
directory:

set mbox_type=Maildir
set spoolfile=~/Maildir

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Re: Will jmtpfs be able to connect the Google Nexus 5X to the debian computer?

[deloptes]

der.hans wrote:

> Am 22. Oct, 2016 schwätzte David so:
> 
> moin moin David,
> 
>> Will jmtpfs be able to connect the Google Nexus 5X to the debian
>> computer?
> 
> It should. jmtpfs is working for several Android devices for me. Some are
> Nexus with latest OS release, some are old devices with no support from
> the carrier and one is a device I don't allow to have network access[0].
> 
>> if yes: will also the internet connection through the Nexus 5X work?
> 
> I believe you don't need jmtpfs to use the USB connection for network
> access. I believe you can enable USB tethering on the device since Nexus
> should have a recent OS release.
> 
> [0] Don't know if it has some sort of phone home, but it doesn't nag me
> about updates and I just pretend it's all good :)
> 
> ciao,
> 
> der.hans

Not to forget mtp
libmtp-common - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) common files
libmtp-dbg - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) debugging symbols
libmtp-dev - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) development files
libmtp-doc - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library documentation
libmtp-runtime - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) runtime tools
libmtp9 - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library
mtp-tools - Media Transfer Protocol (MTP) library tools