Re: VPN et Debian

[Jean-Michel OLTRA]

Bonjour,


Le mardi 13 décembre 2016, Alex PADOLY a écrit...



> Connaissez-vous un service VPN libre ou payant
> dont le soft s'installe très bien sous DEBIAN. 

J'utilise HMA (Hide My Ass) depuis 2 ans. C'est de l'openvpn. Il y a un
shell script de lancement qu'on peut même bidouiller si on veut !

-- 
jm

VPN et Debian

[Alex PADOLY]

 

Bonjour à tous, 

Connaissez-vous un service VPN libre ou payant
dont le soft s'installe très bien sous DEBIAN. 

Je vous remercie.


Alex 
 

current testing

[Jim McCloskey]

Hello after a long absence. Following up (in a sense) on the recent
thread about the wisdom of mixing elements from the stable and
testing/unstable distributions, I wanted to ask about how stable
current testing is.

I used to run the testing distribution as a matter of course, but have
been too busy at work in recent times to devote the necessary time to
that project. I miss the fun of it and I'd like to test-drive the
upgrade.

If the past is a good guide, though, this close to a release, running
the testing distribution has been a reassuringly boring experience. Is
that so at present? I'd be particularly curious about the transition
(back) to ffmpeg. Is that transition actually in place in stretch?
And there is or was the big Perl transition. Are there other things to
worry about before running dist-upgrade?

If anyone has relevant experience I'd appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks,

Jim

Re: Plasma: keyboard crash

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Hans  wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> from time to time in plasma 5 I have the problem, that the keyboard stops its
> function. Is there a way to restart the keyboard without restarting plasma?

How have you determined that the problem is with plasma 5 and not
something else? What happens when you run a different desktop
environment?

raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Re: Package update problem...

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Mark Neidorff  wrote:
>
> Sorry to seem stubborn, but I don't consider giving a user account full
> administrative access acceptable, even if there is only one user on the
> system. My reasoning is that by default if the user goes to a "naughty" web
> page and somehow downloads destructive software only the user's files are at
> risk. But, with full administrative access, the entire system (plus any
> attached networks) are at risk.

I do not think you are being stubborn. You do not have to give the
normal user ALL permissions. But you have to give him some permissions
to be able to install/update/remove packages. For example, I
configured my /etc/sudoers file such that my normal user account can
run apt-get and install packages. Giving ALL permissions just makes
things simpler but /etc/sudoers can be fine tuned to give just as much
as control as needed.


> Question: Is not allowing an administrative (software update)task to run
> when the root password is given a bug or is it by design? If by design, why?

I do not understand the question. I am not here to defend any
particular design choice. I can help you with how it can be done but
not why it should be done one way or another. That is beyond my
expertise.

> I see two alternatives to your suggestion, neither of which is convenient.
>
> 1. When I get a notification, log off and then log in as root. Then when the
> updates are downloaded and applied, log back in as the user.
>

No. There is no need to logoff. For example, whenever I want to
install a package, I simply open a konsole and run

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install PKGNAME

as a normal user. When it asks for password, I supply the password of
my user account (not the password of the root account).

> 2. When I get a notification, use "su" to change to the root user and then
> do the updates.

That is one way. I find sudo a bit more easier than su. Since with
sudo, you do not even have to know the root password (once it is
setup).

> But, I have been using linux (and KDE) for a long time and up until now,
> when an update arrives I select to apply the update, give the root password,
> and the update is installed. Now, when I get an update notification and
> supply the root password to apply the update, the update is not applied. (I
> am returned to the password prompt)

hmm... no idea on this part. What program does KDE run when you try to
update packages? May be run it from command line and see if it gives
an error?

hth
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Re: Where to report wl bad behavior ?

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

> 2016-12-11 20:59 GMT+01:00 kamaraju kusumanchi
> :
>>
>> How and where did you get the wireless driver? If the driver is not
>> part of the official Debian software repository, I do not see how
>> filing a bug report would help. Your best shot is to complain to the
>> upstream yourself or use a different hardware.
>>
>> raju
>> --
>> Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog
>
>
On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:46 AM, Laurent Debian
 wrote:
> Hi
> it is. It's in the non-free depot.
>  And AFAIK, it is the only one making works "properly" this kind of chipset
> (broadcom 4360...)
> And I don't like the idea to open up a mac book pro find the wifi chip and
> change it?

Hi Laurent,

It is better to reply to the list instead of writing to me personally.
That way others will also be able to help you and the conversations
will be part of the archive.

Coming back to your question... Yes, you can file a bug report on a
package that is in the non-free component of Debian.

hth
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Black Screen on First Boot

[Dan Norton]

Greetings,

The netinst of jessie from a flash drive, graphic install, went well 
like it did on another PC, but on this old PC the boot after install 
produced a black screen.


vbeinfo lists some display settings followed by "Preferred mode 
1360x768", but this mode is not in the list. There is an * beside 
1024x768x32 in the list. Is that the mode used during the install?


What is the "Preferred mode 1360x768" for? Is that for the kernel? I 
tried to change that by doing this:


grub> set root=(hd0,1)
grub> set gfxpayload=1024x768
grub> linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-686-pae root=/dev/sda1
grub> initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.16.0-4-686-pae
grub> boot

But that still resulted in a black screen. What should be done instead?

 - Dan

Re: [HS] batterie compatible pour PC portable

[JF Straeten]

LO,

On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 12:28:28AM +0100, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

[...]
> Je cherche une batterie compatible pour un PC portable Dell assez
> ancien. Je n'ai donc pas spécialement envie d'investir dans une
> batterie Dell d'origine à plus de 100€. Mais ayant déjà eu une
> mauvaise expérience avec une batterie pour Lenovo venant de chez
> Subtel (en gros elle faisait la moitié de la capacité indiquée), je
> me demande à quels sites on peut faire confiance. Je suis donc en
> recherche de vos retour d'expérience en la matière.

En mai 2015, j'étais dans le même cas, pour un Tablet PC Fujitsu
Siemens Stylistic, donc une machine déjà un peu spéciale à la base, et
pas récente, genre 8 à 10 ans d'âge.

En spare parts OEM, c'est 140 €... Gloups, même sentiment que toi :-[

Muni des références des batteries compatibles, j'ai alors écrémé Ebay
à la cherche d'une 'noname' compatible *neuve*, chez un vendeur qui
n'aurait pas moins de 99.5% de fiabilité...

J'ai trouvé mon bonheur (une longue durée, en plus, 6 à 7h
d'autonomie) à 59,80 € (dont 5,90 de frais d'envoi) chez un vendeur du
nom de Giseke GmbH & co KG (ça ne s'invente pas :-p), à Berlin, en
Teutonie.

Et la machine tourne toujours aujourd'hui avec cette batterie...

Sous Jessie, donc ce n'est pas totalement HT :-)

Je crois que le raisonnement est extensible à n'importe quel vendeur
dans le range des 99 % de fiabilité (en évitant les hors UE toutefois,
parce que là, tu vas te prendre des droits de douane pas piqués des
hannetons...).

Hih,


-- 

JFS.


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Présentation et premières questions

[Luis Speciale]

Bonjour, ici c'est Luis ;)

J'attaque mon deuxième serveur, donc je n'ai pas beaucoup d'expérience 
(j'avais installé un serveur il y a 5 ans).


J'ai fait (pour tester et sachant qu'il faudra peut-être réinstaller) la 
partition de base proposée par le prestataire mais pas content parce que 
pas vraiment pigé.


C'est un serveur avec trois SSDs de 250GO (que je nomme SERVEURDELUIS 
pour ne pas nommer le prestataire, mais bon…)


~$ cat /etc/debian_version
8.6
~$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:Debian GNU/Linux 8.6 (jessie)
Release:8.6
Codename:   jessie
~$ uname -a
Linux SERVEURDELUIS 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u2 
(2016-10-19) x86_64 GNU/Linux

~$ uname -r
3.16.0-4-amd64

~$ su -
Password:
~# service --status-all
 [ + ]  acpid
 [ + ]  atd
 [ + ]  bind9
 [ - ]  bootlogs
 [ - ]  bootmisc.sh
 [ - ]  checkfs.sh
 [ - ]  checkroot-bootclean.sh
 [ - ]  checkroot.sh
 [ + ]  console-setup
 [ + ]  cron
 [ + ]  dbus
 [ + ]  exim4
 [ - ]  hostname.sh
 [ - ]  hwclock.sh
 [ + ]  kbd
 [ + ]  keyboard-setup
 [ - ]  killprocs
 [ + ]  kmod
 [ - ]  mdadm
 [ + ]  mdadm-raid
 [ - ]  mdadm-waitidle
 [ - ]  motd
 [ - ]  mountall-bootclean.sh
 [ - ]  mountall.sh
 [ - ]  mountdevsubfs.sh
 [ - ]  mountkernfs.sh
 [ - ]  mountnfs-bootclean.sh
 [ - ]  mountnfs.sh
 [ + ]  networking
 [ - ]  nfs-common
 [ + ]  openntpd
 [ + ]  procps
 [ + ]  rc.local
 [ - ]  rmnologin
 [ - ]  rpcbind
 [ + ]  rsyslog
 [ - ]  sendsigs
 [ + ]  ssh
 [ + ]  udev
 [ + ]  udev-finish
 [ - ]  umountfs
 [ - ]  umountnfs.sh
 [ - ]  umountroot
 [ + ]  urandom

~$ df -h
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md1 40G  1.1G   37G   3% /
udev 10M 0   10M   0% /dev
tmpfs   6.3G  8.7M  6.3G   1% /run
tmpfs16G 0   16G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs   5.0M 0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs16G 0   16G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/md0282M   32M  231M  13% /boot
/dev/md2429G   71M  407G   1% /data

Où je comprends que mes trois disques sont faits à partir des disques de 
base (la somme des trois donne 751GO)


/dev/md140G
/dev/md0282M   (le système ?)
/dev/md2429G   (les données ?)
udev c'est
https://wiki.debian.org/fr/udev
?
tmpfs c'est
https://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization
?

J'ai sécurisé ssh du mieux que j'ai compris :

changé le port
interdit le login via root, on ne peut se connecter
que via SSH avec des KEYS
PermitRootLogin no
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
PasswordAuthentication no
UsePAM no

Mais là, avant d'aller plus loin je voudrais une liste de lecture ou 
plutôt, une liste de tutoriels à suivre (je dis ça parce qu'il y a 
pléthore et je n'ai pas les connaissances pour distinguer ni le meilleur 
ni l'ordre. Déjà, je me suis aidé de ces deux là


https://forum.online.net/index.php?/topic/4541-howto-secure-debian-installation/

Tout fait sauf fail2ban

http://www.alsacreations.com/tuto/lire/621-Configuration-d-un-serveur-dedie-de-A-a-Z.html

Tout en sachant que j'ai choisi de suivre le tuto avec panel 
d'administration (ISPConfig)


Ma question donc serait
Puis-je (devrais-je ?)partitionner maintenant mes disques en suivant un 
tuto ?


Auriez-vous une liste de tutos à suivre qui seraient plus appropriés ?


Merci

Luis

Re: understanding how localization works in Debian

[Martin T]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Greg Wooledge  wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 01:58:12PM +0200, Martin T wrote:
>> 1) pam_env.so sets the environmental variables seen in the output of
>> locale command based on configuration files(for example
>> /etc/default/locale) when user logs in
>
> Maybe, maybe not.  The LC_* and LANG variables can come from many
> different places.  I think, however, that you are focusing on the
> libc/application level that uses these variables, and not their
> origin.  So for your purposes, "LC_* and LANG are set somehow".
>
>> 2) nl_langinfo(), setlocale() and (some) other glibc functions used in
>> programs ask environment variables seen in the output of locale
>> command
>>
>> 3) based on those environment variables nl_langinfo(), setlocale(),
>> etc functions check the locale information in
>> /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive database and change their output
>> accordingly
>>
>> 4) /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive database is generated with
>> locale-gen utility based on entries in /etc/locale.gen file and locale
>> template/configuration files in /usr/share/i18n/locales/
>>
>> Did I understand this correctly?
>
> I am confused.  There are basically three interaction points between
> you and the locale system, and you don't seem to have focused on any
> of them.
>
> 1) LC_* and LANG are set somehow by the end user or by the local OS.
>
> 2) The local system admin runs "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to determine
>which locales are "generated".  End users can only receive translations
>from locales that are generated on the local system.
>
> 3) Applications are written with localization (l10n) support using the
>features of whichever language they're written in, e.g. _("...").
>
> For a more detailed look at #1, see https://wiki.debian.org/Locale
> (And even that is woefully incomplete thanks to the proliferation
> of Desktop Environments, and the ridiculous inadequacy of the PAM
> environment variable system.)
>
> For a more detailed look at #3, see
> https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html
>

Greg,

thank you for reply! I do understand that LC_* and LANG variables can
come from various places. For example even pushed by SSH client.
However, were my other three points incorrect? As I understand it,
some glibc functions(for example nl_langinfo(), setlocale()) use those
LC_* and LANG variables to change the program output(for example first
day of the week in cal command) based on locale data in
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive database.



thanks,
Martin

Re: [HS] batterie compatible pour PC portable

[bernard schoenacker]

On Tue, 13 Dec 2016 00:28:28 +0100
Gaëtan PERRIER  wrote:

> Bonjour,
> 
> Gros HS mais vu la fréquentation de la liste je me dis que vous
> pourriez sûrement m'aiguiller.
> Je cherche une batterie compatible pour un PC portable Dell assez
> ancien. Je n'ai donc pas spécialement envie d'investir dans une
> batterie Dell d'origine à plus de 100€. Mais ayant déjà eu une
> mauvaise expérience avec une batterie pour Lenovo venant de chez
> Subtel (en gros elle faisait la moitié de la capacité indiquée), je
> me demande à quels sites on peut faire confiance. Je suis donc en
> recherche de vos retour d'expérience en la matière.
> 
> Merci d'avance.
> 
> Gaëtan
> 


bonjour,

pourquoi ne pas essayer about batteries ?


http://www.aboutbatteries.com/

slt
bernard

-- 
bernard schoenacker 

[HS] batterie compatible pour PC portable

[Gaëtan PERRIER]

Bonjour,

Gros HS mais vu la fréquentation de la liste je me dis que vous pourriez
sûrement m'aiguiller.
Je cherche une batterie compatible pour un PC portable Dell assez ancien.
Je n'ai donc pas spécialement envie d'investir dans une batterie Dell
d'origine à plus de 100€. Mais ayant déjà eu une mauvaise expérience avec une
batterie pour Lenovo venant de chez Subtel (en gros elle faisait la moitié de
la capacité indiquée), je me demande à quels sites on peut faire confiance.
Je suis donc en recherche de vos retour d'expérience en la matière.

Merci d'avance.

Gaëtan

Plasma: keyboard crash

[Hans]

Hi folks,

from time to time in plasma 5 I have the problem, that the keyboard stops its 
function. Is there a way to restart the keyboard without restarting plasma?

Thanks for any hints.

Best

Hans

Re: Retrouver sa configuration graphique

[maderios]

On 12/12/2016 07:42 PM, Jose CHARTERS wrote:

Bonjour,

J'utilise Debian Jessie avec le driver graphique nouveau.

Je trouvais que parfois il ramait sans raison. Je me suis dit que je
vais essayer le driver nvidia. J'ai une carte graphique GeForce FX5600XT.

L'installation s'est bien passée. Par contre, je ne retrouve pas la
résolution d'install. J'ai un écran Hyundai 22", la résolution doit être
de 1680x1050.

Bon, tant pis, je repasse avec le driver nouveau. Mais là j'ai toujours
une résolution de 1280x1024. Je ne retrouve pas la résolution que
j'avais lors de l'installation de Jessie.

Je sais que je peux créer un xorg.conf et donner les résolutions que je
souhaite. Mais je sais également que le ficheir xorg.conf n'est plus
utilisé maintenant.

Ma question est donc comment retrouver la résolution de mon écran par
défaut comme l'avait le programme Debion Jessie à l'installation ?

Je peux refaire l'installation, mais outre le fait qu'il me faudra
reinstaller tous les logiciels et configuration que j'ai fait réaliser
depuis le début de Jessie, ce n'est pas trop dans la méthodologie Linux.

Si une bonne âme peut m'orienter, je l'en remercie.


Salut
Tout d'abord, avec le driver nvidia, tu peux installer le paquet 
nvidia-settings, interface graphique qui permet de vérifier/paramétrer 
entre autres la définition de l'écran (nombre total de pixels x) 
et non la résolution, terme employé souvent à tort sans en connaître le 
sens réel (nombre de pixels pour une surface donnée (ex: pixel/inch).

Ok, je t'embrouille mais c'est très simple.
Par ailleurs, Xorg n'a pas besoin d'un xorg.conf pour fonctionner, tout 
est automatique. Il te faut supprimer tout fichier xorg.conf

Nvidia driver fonctionne bien mieux que nouveau, notamment pour l'opengl.


--
Maderios

Re: How to upgrade / compile an ARM kernel?

[Robert Latest]

Thanks for the tip, I'll take my question next door.

Re: systemd dmesg como usuario normal

[Matias Mucciolo]

Buenas
proba con
echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/dmesg_restrict
saludos



-- 

Matias Mucciolo

Area de Infraestructura.
Piedras 737 C.A.B.A 
SUTEBA 

On Friday 09 December 2016 12:32:58 Ricardo Delgado wrote:
> Buenas, desde la ultima actualizacion del kernel me sucede q a veces
> se apaga la compu asi nomas "sin preguntar" o sea, de forma repentina,
> solo se apaga y listo.
> 
> tambien me sucede que si como usuario normal antes realizaba un dmesg
> y me daba los ultimos eventos o mensajes ahora
> 
> dmesg: read kernel buffer failed: Operación no permitida
> 
> con sudo dmesg si me permite.
> 
> no sabria por donde buscar esos cambios. O a lo mejor esperar la
> proxima actualizacion del kernel
> 
> uso testing.
> 
> Saludos
> 
> -- 
> "Windows? Reboot
> Debian?  beRoot "
>

Retrouver sa configuration graphique

[Jose CHARTERS]

Bonjour,

J'utilise Debian Jessie avec le driver graphique nouveau.

Je trouvais que parfois il ramait sans raison. Je me suis dit que je
vais essayer le driver nvidia. J'ai une carte graphique GeForce FX5600XT.

L'installation s'est bien passée. Par contre, je ne retrouve pas la
résolution d'install. J'ai un écran Hyundai 22", la résolution doit être
de 1680x1050.

Bon, tant pis, je repasse avec le driver nouveau. Mais là j'ai toujours
une résolution de 1280x1024. Je ne retrouve pas la résolution que
j'avais lors de l'installation de Jessie.

Je sais que je peux créer un xorg.conf et donner les résolutions que je
souhaite. Mais je sais également que le ficheir xorg.conf n'est plus
utilisé maintenant.

Ma question est donc comment retrouver la résolution de mon écran par
défaut comme l'avait le programme Debion Jessie à l'installation ?

Je peux refaire l'installation, mais outre le fait qu'il me faudra
reinstaller tous les logiciels et configuration que j'ai fait réaliser
depuis le début de Jessie, ce n'est pas trop dans la méthodologie Linux.

Si une bonne âme peut m'orienter, je l'en remercie.

Mes recherches sur le net, ne m'ont pas permis d'avancer. Mais il est
fort possible que j'ai mal orienté mes recherches.

Bonne soirée,

José

Re: Package update problem...

[Mark Neidorff]

On Sunday, 12/11/16 02:45:41 PM kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Mark Neidorff  
wrote:
> > I'm running Jesse 8.6 with a KDE desktop.
> > 
> > I get a desktop notification that there is one or more package 
updates
> > available.  I select the package(s) and then I'm asked for 
authentication.
> > I type in the root password, but it is rejected.  I also try my user
> > password, but that is also rejected. (Tried multiple times, so it doesn't
> > seem to be a typo problem)
> > 
> > If I go to the command line--as root--and do apt-get update and 
upgrade,
> > then the update installs correctly.
> > 
> > This sounds like something easy to fix, but I just don't know where to 
fix
> > and what fix to apply. Please let me know.
> 
> The technical term you are looking for is called "Privilege escalation".
> 
> On a Debian system, "administrative" privileges are required to
> install/upgrade/remove packages. When you run the command as root, 
you
> have all the necessary privileges. A normal user does not have them
> enabled by default. This explains why the commands fail unless they
> are run as root. One possible approach (I am only guessing here and
> have not tested this) is to grant the necessary privileges to this
> user and see if the KDE application respects that.
> 
> You can do this by modifying /etc/sudoers which is explained in
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch01.en.html#_sudo_confi
> guration
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch04.en.html#_sudo
> https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.config-misc.html#sect.shari
> ng-admin-rights
> 
> The only caution is that /etc/sudoers can't be edited interactively in
> an editor. You need to use another program called visudo to do that.
> 
> You can accomplish some really complex tasks by tweaking the sudoers
> configuration file (see man sudoers for all the gory details). But for
> your use case, granting ALL permissions to one normal user should
> probably be sufficient.
> 
> hope that helps
> raju

Sorry to seem stubborn, but I don't consider giving a user account full 
administrative access acceptable, even if there is only one user on the 
system.  My reasoning is that by default if the user goes to a "naughty" 
web page and somehow downloads destructive software only the user's 
files are at risk.  But, with full administrative access, the entire system 
(plus any attached networks) are at risk.

Question: Is not allowing an administrative (software update)task to run 
when the root password is given a bug or is it by design?  If by design, why?  

I see two alternatives to your suggestion, neither of which is convenient.
1. When I get a notification, log off and then log in as root.  Then when the 
updates are downloaded and applied, log back in as the user.
2. When I get a notification, use "su" to change to the root user and then 
do the updates.

Both of these add more steps.  If I have to add these steps, then I have to.  
But, I have been using linux (and KDE) for a long time and up until now, 
when an update arrives I select to apply the update, give the root 
password, and the update is installed.  Now, when I get an update 
notification and supply the root password to apply the update, the update 
is not applied. (I am returned to the password prompt)

Thanks,

Mark  

Tip: nmtui NetworkManager, Terminal Interface (also Bug#694068 + hostname)

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

Hi..

Sharing the existence of the Debian package called "nmtui" because the
only 5 references to it in possibly 200,000 emails are from this past
week k/t Debian-Accessibility and Debian-User listservs [1], [2].
Thought maybe nmtui's interface might prove more user friendly for
those who found nothing else helped when setting up networking.

Being familiar with the acronym, GUI, for graphical user interface,
that "TUI" leaped off the page. Per its manual page, nmtui is "Text
User Interface for controlling NetworkManager". If one follows the
nmtui acronym per chatter out and about, NetworkManager
text/textual/text-based user interface works, too.

>From "man nmtui":

+++ BEGIN "man nmtui" SNIPPET +++

DESCRIPTION
   nmtui is a curses‐based TUI application for interacting with
NetworkManager. When
   starting nmtui, the user is prompted to choose the activity to
perform unless it was
   specified as the first argument.

   The supported activities are:

   edit
   Show a connection editor that supports adding, modifying,
viewing and deleting
   connections. It provides similar functionality as
nm-connection-editor.

   connect
   Show a list of available connections, with the option to
activate or deactivate
   them. It provides similar functionality as nm-applet.

   hostname
   Set the system hostname.

   Corresponding to above activities, nmtui also comes with
binaries named nmtui-edit,
   nmtui-connect, and nmtui-hostname to skip the selection of the
activities.

SEE ALSO
   nmcli(1), nm-applet(1), nm-connection-editor(1), NetworkManager(8).

+++ END "man nmtui" SNIPPET +++

If anyone has feedback on nmtui's apparently very ready access to
changing hostname, that might help others down the road. My memory is
that topic was possibly discussed very recently.

This is an awfully easy way to change hostname. It's even offering
that point of change to my normal user. I can't afford to lose my
computer's operability today so I haven't tested that part to see if
it at least asks for root's password before committing that change.

Related to this on that same Debian-Accessibility thread [3], there's
a bug that maybe someone with network programming strengths could
please check out:

Debian Bug report logs - #694068
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2012 14:33:02 UTC
netcfg: Wireless connectivity present during an install but absent afterwards
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=694068

Reading that bug, kneejerk is that correcting that is going to help
*ALL* Debian Users. It feels like that bug's title reads similar to
content in several Debian-User threads (also) lately..

Hope knowledge of nmtui helps someone.. at some point.. some day. Good luck!

Cindy :)

[1] Re: stretch orca and wifi connection setup @ Debian-Accessibility
https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2016/12/msg00031.html

[2] Re: Where are WiFi passwords (WPA keys) stored? @ Debian-User
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2016/12/msg00171.html

[3] Re: stretch orca and wifi connection setup @ Debian-Accessibility
https://lists.debian.org/debian-accessibility/2016/12/msg00023.html

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Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with plastic sporks *

Re: Desktop freeze

[Jérémy Lal]

Hi,

i'm having a very similar issue with epiphany-browser and chromium,
using gnome-shell in debian/sid.
The content inside the window stops being refreshed completely,
but i can still move the window around without it displaying garbage.
I'm not sure on which package i should report this.

Jérémy

Re: Nvidia legacy 340 package was removed?

[Teemu Likonen]

tier [2016-12-12 21:18:22+06] wrote:

> What we will use insted?

Nvidia 340 is still in Jessie as package nvidia-driver but it is also in
jessie-backports as package nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver. Here's what my
system tells:

$ apt-cache policy '^nvidia-(legacy-[0-9]+xx-)?driver$'

nvidia-driver:
  Installed: 367.57-2~bpo8+1
  Candidate: 367.57-2~bpo8+1
  Version table:
 *** 367.57-2~bpo8+1 0
100 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/non-free amd64 
Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 340.96-1 0
500 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ jessie/non-free amd64 Packages
nvidia-legacy-340xx-driver:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 340.98-1~bpo8+1
  Version table:
 340.98-1~bpo8+1 0
100 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/non-free amd64 
Packages
nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver:
  Installed: (none)
  Candidate: 304.131-1
  Version table:
 304.131-8~bpo8+2 0
100 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports/non-free amd64 
Packages
 304.131-1 0
500 http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian/ jessie/non-free amd64 Packages

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Re: systemd dmesg como usuario normal

[Pedro Gras]

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El Sat, 10 Dec 2016 19:38:36 -0300
Ricardo Delgado  escribió:
> El día 10 de diciembre de 2016, 15:15, Pedro Gras
>  escribió:
> > Buenas,
> >
> > es una nueva medida de seguridad, solo root tiene acceso ahora al
> > dmesg , es parte de las nuevas medidas que están tomando para
> > "endurecer" el núcleo. A partir de ahora es por defecto.
> >
> > Un saludo
> >  
> upsss, me podrias indicar algun sitio donde se documente? san google
> no me dio pistas, mas alla de buscar por el sysctl.conf, pero no creo
> que vaya por ahi la cosa.
> 
> buscar como kernel dmesg no me trae nada.
> 
> Muchas Gracias
> 
> 

Buenas,

no he encontrado donde se puede o si se puede cambiar el
comportamiento , pero vi este comentario en un foro de Debian
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=130372 por ahora tendrás que
hacer sudo.

Un Saludo,

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Using EasyCAP USB video capture device

[rhkramer]

Is anyone here using the EasyCAP USB video capture device?

If so, what software are you using?  (I want to capture video and audio.)

Comments / suggestions?

(I have one of these, but I haven't tried using it so far...)

Nvidia legacy 340 package was removed?

[tier]

What we will use insted?

Re: systemd dmesg como usuario normal

[Gonzalo Rivero]

El sáb, 10-12-2016 a las 19:38 -0300, Ricardo Delgado escribió:
> El día 10 de diciembre de 2016, 15:15, Pedro Gras
>  escribió:
> > Buenas,
> > 
> > es una nueva medida de seguridad, solo root tiene acceso ahora al
> > dmesg , es
> > parte de las nuevas medidas que están tomando para "endurecer" el
> > núcleo. A
> > partir de ahora es por defecto.
> > 
> > Un saludo
> > 
> 
> upsss, me podrias indicar algun sitio donde se documente? san google
> no me dio pistas, mas alla de buscar por el sysctl.conf, pero no creo
> que vaya por ahi la cosa.
> 
> buscar como kernel dmesg no me trae nada.
> 
> 

la semana pasada cuando actualicé mi sistema me salió el cartelito
avisando que iba a pasar exactamente eso: no poder usar dmesg como
usuario normal, no le di importancia (tengo contraseña 123 (ni siquiera
12345) así que se escribe rapidísimo) pero /creo/ que decía como dejar
el comportamiento clásico donde cualquier usuario puede dmesg

Re: How to upgrade / compile an ARM kernel?

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Monday, 12 December 2016 14:20:45 PYST Robert Latest wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have this old hardkernel odroid-u2 chugging away as a slow but
> reliable mediaserver. It's a few years old and uses a Debian Wheezy  I
> downloaded from Hardkernel's site.
> 
> I now wanted to connect a two-bay USB/SATA adapter, but the odroid
> only sees one of the drives. Maybe it's something else, but probably
> it's just due to an old kernel / udev. So I dist-upgraded to jessy but
> got stuck halfway because the kernel is too old (3.0.57). Soon I found
> out that upgrading the kernel isn't as straightforward as on i386,
> first because of the (probably pretty simple) uboot loader, and
> secondly because there is a large variety of ARM SoC flavors, each of
> which requires its own kernel.
> 
> So any tips? Am I even on the right path that the "invisibility"
> of one of the SATA drives is due to the old kernel /udev?
> 
> I'm willing to build a new kernel for this thing. Last time I did that
> was probably literally almost 20 years ago. Also I'll probably need
> some sort of serial adapter, as the only way I currently communicate
> with this thing is via ssh; i.e., if the kernel won't boot I won't
> know why.
> 
> Any tips?
Yes, this question seems to be better placed at
debian-...@lists.debian.org
and you might be better off with a minimal image of Jessie for odroid and then 
do a fresh install IMHO. It's the faster path.

Re: Asus Eee PC Flare series (1025c)

[Isaac F. Ferreira Filho]

Em 11-12-2016 21:03, Antonio Terceiro escreveu:

também tive essa idéia. nos primórdios, eu já vi um ventilador ligado no
mais forte em cima de um PC fazer toda a diferença na hora de compilar o
X.


também já tive experiências com isso (risos).

Re: understanding how localization works in Debian

[Greg Wooledge]

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 01:58:12PM +0200, Martin T wrote:
> 1) pam_env.so sets the environmental variables seen in the output of
> locale command based on configuration files(for example
> /etc/default/locale) when user logs in

Maybe, maybe not.  The LC_* and LANG variables can come from many
different places.  I think, however, that you are focusing on the
libc/application level that uses these variables, and not their
origin.  So for your purposes, "LC_* and LANG are set somehow".

> 2) nl_langinfo(), setlocale() and (some) other glibc functions used in
> programs ask environment variables seen in the output of locale
> command
> 
> 3) based on those environment variables nl_langinfo(), setlocale(),
> etc functions check the locale information in
> /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive database and change their output
> accordingly
> 
> 4) /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive database is generated with
> locale-gen utility based on entries in /etc/locale.gen file and locale
> template/configuration files in /usr/share/i18n/locales/
> 
> Did I understand this correctly?

I am confused.  There are basically three interaction points between
you and the locale system, and you don't seem to have focused on any
of them.

1) LC_* and LANG are set somehow by the end user or by the local OS.

2) The local system admin runs "dpkg-reconfigure locales" to determine
   which locales are "generated".  End users can only receive translations
   from locales that are generated on the local system.

3) Applications are written with localization (l10n) support using the
   features of whichever language they're written in, e.g. _("...").

For a more detailed look at #1, see https://wiki.debian.org/Locale
(And even that is woefully incomplete thanks to the proliferation
of Desktop Environments, and the ridiculous inadequacy of the PAM
environment variable system.)

For a more detailed look at #3, see
https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html

Re: Red cableada me deja sin internet

[JAP]

El 12/12/16 a las 10:02, Luciana Coca escribió:

Jap, tengo network-manager y wicd. Pero uso el network.

El 12 de diciembre de 2016, 9:56, Luciana Coca
> escribió:

Jeison, lo hice así como explicas en otras oportunidades, pero
cuando la ip cambia tengo que cambiarla yo manualmente en la
configuración porque el resto de las pcs se quedan sin acceso.

El 12 de diciembre de 2016, 9:54, Luciana Coca
> escribió:

Hola chicos! Disculpen la demora, tuvimos días feriados hasta hoy.
Estos son los datos:


​




> Mi /etc/network/interfaces  es:
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet dhcp
>
>

Tenés TRES sistemas distintos compitiendo para manejar las redes, y 
están colisionando entre sí, por eso los problemas.


Si el equipo se conecta SIEMPRE a red física (cable), es conveniente 
manejarlo en forma directa por /etc/network/interfaces.
Si es un SERVIDOR, el la forma ideal de hacerlo, dado que la WiFi es 
interferida por un teléfono inalámbrico, transmisiones de radio, motores 
trifásicos, etcétera.


Si a veces se conecta por cable y a veces por WiFi, debes utilizar 
network-manager o wicd, NO LAS DOS.
También puede ser por /etc/network/interfaces, pero eso se complica por 
los puntos de acceso que tengas y cómo esté configurada la red inalámbrica.


Decime cómo se conecta, y te termino de explicar.

JAP

Re: Red cableada me deja sin internet

[Antonio Trujillo Carmona]

El 07/12/16 a las 16:10, Luciana Coca escribió:
> Hola a todos!
> Les cuento mi situación.
> Mi pc tiene Debian 7.8 y en ella tengo un sistema al que se conectan
> las otras pcs.
> Con la red wifi resulta tedioso trabajar a veces, porque cuando se
> pierde la señal, la dirección de acceso al sistema, cambia. O tiene
> tan baja intensidad que resulta lento el acceso.
> Cuando se conectan por red cableada, no tenemos los problemas
> anteriores y la dirección a la que acceden las demás pc queda fija.
> Pro... Si yo elijo en mi pc conectarnos a red cableada (pc donde
> está el sistema que usamos en mi trabajo), yo me quedo sin poder
> acceder a internet.
> Soy algo nueva en Debian, estuve leyendo información pero no me animo
> a meter mano así nomás.
> Alguien podría guiarme para lograr solucionar el no quedarme sin
> internet cuando me conecto a red cableada?
>
> Desde ya, gracias por la ayuda!
> Luciana.
>
>

No entiendo muy bien tu situación, ¿como se conecta tu equipo a
internet, por usb, puerto serie, red ...

Como se conectan los demás equipos al tuyo, comparten la red física de
la tarjeta de internet.

si como administrador pones "route" ¿que te da?, e "ip addr".

¿Has instalado algún control para compartir la red (firewall)?

¿como configuras tures, (network-manager, wicd, fichero interfaces ...)?.


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*Técnico de redes y sistemas.*

*Subdirección de Tecnologías de la Información y Comunicaciones*

Servicio Andaluz de Salud. Consejería de Salud de la Junta de Andalucía

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How to upgrade / compile an ARM kernel?

[Robert Latest]

Hi all,

I have this old hardkernel odroid-u2 chugging away as a slow but
reliable mediaserver. It's a few years old and uses a Debian Wheezy  I
downloaded from Hardkernel's site.

I now wanted to connect a two-bay USB/SATA adapter, but the odroid
only sees one of the drives. Maybe it's something else, but probably
it's just due to an old kernel / udev. So I dist-upgraded to jessy but
got stuck halfway because the kernel is too old (3.0.57). Soon I found
out that upgrading the kernel isn't as straightforward as on i386,
first because of the (probably pretty simple) uboot loader, and
secondly because there is a large variety of ARM SoC flavors, each of
which requires its own kernel.

So any tips? Am I even on the right path that the "invisibility"
of one of the SATA drives is due to the old kernel /udev?

I'm willing to build a new kernel for this thing. Last time I did that
was probably literally almost 20 years ago. Also I'll probably need
some sort of serial adapter, as the only way I currently communicate
with this thing is via ssh; i.e., if the kernel won't boot I won't
know why.

Any tips?

Thanks,
robert


rl@odroid:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
Processor: ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v7l)
processor: 0
BogoMIPS: 1992.29

processor: 1
BogoMIPS: 1992.29

processor: 2
BogoMIPS: 1992.29

processor: 3
BogoMIPS: 1992.29

Features: swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp thumbee neon vfpv3 tls
CPU implementer: 0x41
CPU architecture: 7
CPU variant: 0x3
CPU part: 0xc09
CPU revision: 0

Hardware: ODROIDU2
Revision: 
Serial: 
rl@odroid:~$ dmesg | head
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[0.00] Linux version 3.0.57 (root@linaro-ubuntu-desktop) (gcc
version 4.6.3 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu5) ) #12 SMP Mon Jun 3
00:09:36 UTC 2013
[0.00] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [413fc090] revision 0 (ARMv7), cr=10c5387d
[0.00] CPU: VIPT nonaliasing data cache, VIPT aliasing instruction cache
[0.00] Machine: ODROIDU2
[0.00] Memory policy: ECC disabled, Data cache writealloc
[0.00] CPU EXYNOS4412 (id 0xe4412220)
[0.00] exynos4_init_clocks: initializing clocks
[0.00] S3C24XX Clocks, Copyright 2004 Simtec Electronics
rl@odroid:~$

Re: Red cableada me deja sin internet

[Luciana Coca]

Jap, tengo network-manager y wicd. Pero uso el network.
Mi /etc/network/interfaces  es:

# The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet dhcp



El 12 de diciembre de 2016, 9:56, Luciana Coca 
escribió:

> Jeison, lo hice así como explicas en otras oportunidades, pero cuando la
> ip cambia tengo que cambiarla yo manualmente en la configuración porque el
> resto de las pcs se quedan sin acceso.
>
> El 12 de diciembre de 2016, 9:54, Luciana Coca 
> escribió:
>
>> Hola chicos! Disculpen la demora, tuvimos días feriados hasta hoy.
>> Estos son los datos:
>>
>>
>> ​
>>
>
>

Re: Red cableada me deja sin internet

[Luciana Coca]

Jeison, lo hice así como explicas en otras oportunidades, pero cuando la ip
cambia tengo que cambiarla yo manualmente en la configuración porque el
resto de las pcs se quedan sin acceso.

El 12 de diciembre de 2016, 9:54, Luciana Coca 
escribió:

> Hola chicos! Disculpen la demora, tuvimos días feriados hasta hoy.
> Estos son los datos:
>
>
> ​
>

Re: Red cableada me deja sin internet

[Luciana Coca]

Hola chicos! Disculpen la demora, tuvimos días feriados hasta hoy.
Estos son los datos:


​

Re: network setup

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Dec 2016 at 19:43:06 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> I tried manual network configuration and debian renamed wlan0 to
> wlx00c0ca364bd2 for some reason.  If I do ip a that shows up as possible
> wifi connection.  Unfortunately ifup doesn't recognize that device name.

It is unclear (to me, at least) what you are trying to achieve and with
what tools. Would you please say whether you are trying to configure a
*single* wireless connection or is roaming involved?

-- 
Brian.

understanding how localization works in Debian

[Martin T]

Hi,

I read the "Configuring the System for Another Language" paragraph in
"The Debian Administrator's Handbook" and am I correct that
localization works in a way that:

1) pam_env.so sets the environmental variables seen in the output of
locale command based on configuration files(for example
/etc/default/locale) when user logs in

2) nl_langinfo(), setlocale() and (some) other glibc functions used in
programs ask environment variables seen in the output of locale
command

3) based on those environment variables nl_langinfo(), setlocale(),
etc functions check the locale information in
/usr/lib/locale/locale-archive database and change their output
accordingly

4) /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive database is generated with
locale-gen utility based on entries in /etc/locale.gen file and locale
template/configuration files in /usr/share/i18n/locales/

Did I understand this correctly?



thanks,
Martin

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 10:53:30AM +1100, Igor Cicimov wrote:
> It depends. If you are using cloud services with remote shared storage like
> AWS EBS it does not make sense using LVM on top of RAID. To me it is just
> adding complexity to already complex SAN storage. You also have no idea
> what the block devices presented to the VM are coming from it might be a
> file coming over iSCSI. I've been using LVM raid on AWS EBS for years
> without any issues. My advice is test and match them all before you make
> your decision each ones user case and experience is different.

I should have prefixed my answer with "If you want RAID...". I don't
personally use RAID anywhere, myself, at the moment.

In the situation you describe then you are doing logical volume management
elsewhere and you would indeed not need LVM. You should also address redundancy
at that other layer so you wouldn't need (local) RAID either, either LVM or MD
based, IMHO.

You don't explain why you chose to use LVM RAID over mdadm, but as I said, I
wouldn't use either in your case.

-- 
Jonathan Dowland
Please do not CC me, I am subscribed to the list.


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Re: spam filtering question?

[Jonathan Dowland]

On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 10:27:50PM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> shellworld.net the shell service where I do most of my internet work is
> using Ubuntu.
> For reasons that I  find rather confusing spam assassin  is well no longer
> filtering at the level it did previously.
> Has something happened to the program ?

Most likely the volume or nature of the spam you are receiving has changed,
rather than the filters. If the SpamAssassin instance has the bayesian 
classifier
enabled (you might be able to tell by the headers it adds to your mail), then
it may learn some traits from the more recent spam, if there is a feedback loop
in place for you to report spam.

> Is there a better spam filtering option for shell servers that I might
> suggest to our administrator?

I find crm114 to be excellent. Depending on precicely how the shell server has
mail setup, you might be able to set it up for yourself, running on top of the
service offered by the shell service, as an additional layer of filtering.


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Re: Quelle application de développement et de gestion d'un annuaire LDAP

[Olivier]

Le lien [1] indique qu'il est possible de personnaliser le schéma de la
base LDAP d'Iredmail.
Je vais chercher d'avantage pour voir s'il n'est pas trop difficile
d'offrir aux utilisateurs une interface graphique pour éditer
les données de la base LDAP étendue.


Merci pour le pointeur vers iredmail.

[1]
http://www.iredmail.org/forum/topic11312-iredmail-support-unable-to-extend-ldap-schema.html

Le 8 décembre 2016 à 17:09, Jean-Michel OLTRA <
jm.oltra.antis...@espinasse.net> a écrit :

>
> Bonjour,
>
>
> Le jeudi 08 décembre 2016, Olivier a écrit...
>
>
> > J'ai lu quelques mots sur FreeIPA ou FusionDirectory ?
> > Quel logiciel me conseillez-vous (parmi ces logiciels ou d'autres) ?
>
> www.iredmail.org
>
> Mais c'est un peu plus qu'un gestionnaire d'annuaire ldap.
>
> --
> jm
>
>