Re: apt-get is not following preferences.d

[Matthias Bodenbinder]

Am 12.01.2017 um 20:31 schrieb Sven Hartge:

Matthias Bodenbinder  wrote:


What is going wrong here? Any idea?


Possibly https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=849382

Grüße,
Sven.



Yes, this is exactly what happens on my PC. But it has no solution.

In the meantime I found a workaround. I moved /etc/cron.daily/apt out of 
the way. It looks like this script is being executed during boot before 
the network is ready.


How can I make sure that the script /etc/cron.daily/apt is only executed 
when network is up? What is this script good for anyways?


Matthias

Re: failed to load kernel modules at boot

[deloptes]

HP Garcia wrote:

> Any suggestions on how to force the kernel modules load
> during boot? I did a Google search on this subject and I followed the
> instruction and no luck.

did you have a look in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules
rebuild initramfs, kernel should load automatically whats needed

regards

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[deloptes]

Vadim Kolchev wrote:

> I  am not at computer right now, sorry, but I checked dmesg while the
> phone was plugged to the hub, and dmesg has shown manufacturer of device,
> so I believe device is detected properly, it's just MTP that does not
> work.

Next time you are infront of the computer, copy paste this information
please from both direct plugged to usb and via hub. Believe you do in the
church, not infront of the computer, when we see the output we can conclude
ourself. 

regards

failed to load kernel modules at boot

[HP Garcia]

Hey everyone,

I'm getting failed to load kernel modules at boot. I have two questions.

1.  Do I need to do load or compile any of the kernel modules
during the kernel compiling process? Here are my steps that I use:

tar -xJvf linuxX.X.tar.xz

cd linux-x.x

make clean && make mrproper

cp /boot/config-`uname -r` ./.config

make localmodconfig

make-kpkg clean

fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=-custom kernel_image
kernel_headers

sudo dpkg -i debs


2.  Any suggestions on how to force the kernel modules load
during boot? I did a Google search on this subject and I followed the
instruction and no luck.

Thanks for any suggestions in advance

HP Garcia

-- 
HP Garcia, Photographer
www.HPGPhotography.com

Re: Help Installing a Dual Boot Debian and Mac OS MacBook Pro 9,1

[solitone]

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 4:32:28 PM CET Michael Fothergill wrote:
> ​You want to use a installation with efi support so apparently the Debian
> Live option is not recommended because it doesn't support efi booting.

I don't understand how a live image relates to this topic. The OP wants to 
install debian alongside MacOS, so he needs a standard image.

I recently installed debian stretch on my MacBookPro12,1, using a netinst 
image that included non-free firmware (needed for my wifi adapter). I flashed 
that image on a USB stick, as 12,1 does not have a DVD drive, but it would be 
the same on a DVD-ROM. I can say that the installation worked well.

Re: Multiple reportbug failure reports

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey
 wrote:
> A critical malfunction of the otherwise ever increasingly user
> friendly reportbug is a huge, nasty disruption in the forward motion
> of successful Debian maintenance and releases. The catch-22 is that
> Debian users need... reportbug... to report an apparent bug with
> reportbug. :)

Reportbug is just a tool that makes it "easy" to report a bug. It is a
very useful tool but by no means the only option to report bugs. For
example,  you can report bugs by sending an e-mail to
sub...@bugs.debian.org with a special format. See
https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting for more details.

-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Re: Errors were encountered while processing python3.5 etc

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 3:38 AM, Gary Roach  wrote:
> I would report this as a bug but the problem seems to have rendered the
> reportbug program unusable.

Try running reportbug with text user interface by adding the --ui=text
option. For example
reportbug --ui=text PACKAGE_NAME


hope that helps
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Re: LXDE lost menus

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Hans  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> it looks like there is a bug in famous LXDE. After an update all menus are
> gone. There is already filed a bugreport to kali-linux, but I want to mention
> it for debian, too.

Update from which version to which version? What version of LXDE shows
this bug? Can you provide a link to the kali-linux bug report?

> Do the LXDE developers know of this? Shall we file another bugreport to the
> LXDE maintainers?

I do not see anything like this reported at
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=lxde;dist=unstable .
So it is possible that the maintainers are not aware of this.

As to whether the bug has to be reported in Debian, the answers is
that it depends. If the bug exists in the version that is carried by
Debian, then it makes sense to report it. Also, check if the upstream
(i.e authors of lxde) are aware of this and if it is fixed in future
versions.

hope that helps
raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Re: audio mixer stopped working

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 2:17 AM, Charles Zeitler  wrote:
> my xfce jessie audio mixer has stopped detecting my audio devices,
> according to error message. It suggests missing gstreamer or
> permission problems. I haven't changed any permissions or uninstalled
> any gstreamer packages.
> I tried reinstalling gstreamer and audio mixer, but no joy. Any suggestions?

Can you please copy paste the error message?

Is the problem specific to xfce audio mixer? For example, are you able
to use a command line tool such as aumix to increase/decrease the
sound?

Have you ruled out hardware failure? For example, does the audio
device work in windows? What happens if you pop in a live cd? Is that
able to detect the audio device?

Sorry for all the questions with no definite answers. I am by no means
an expert on this issue but since you have not received any replies
even after three days, I thought I will take a stab at this. My hope
is that the answer to these questions can help narrow down the
problem.

raju
-- 
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi | http://raju.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Blog

Sid/Testing, apt error "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial..

[Jimmy Johnson]

I'm getting this on a few of my system while updating apt,

"Failed to fetch 
copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz 
 Hash Sum mismatch Hashes of expected file:  - Filesize:1024 [weak]  - 
SHA256:5f70bf18a086007016e948b04aed3b82103a36bea41755b6cddfaf10ace3c6ef 
- MD5Sum:0f343b0931126a20f133d67c2b018a3b [weak] Hashes of received 
file:  - 
SHA256:7989bb311baa38ef545250282aa065d23281c46dfb8faabe4c653487bdbded5c 
- MD5Sum:31f6566d35ccd604be46ed5b1f813cdf [weak]  - Filesize:29 [weak] 
Last modification reported: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:43:09 + Release file 
created at: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:30:53 + Failed to fetch 
copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz 
 Hash Sum mismatch Hashes of expected file:  - Filesize:1024 [weak]  - 
SHA256:5f70bf18a086007016e948b04aed3b82103a36bea41755b6cddfaf10ace3c6ef 
- MD5Sum:0f343b0931126a20f133d67c2b018a3b [weak] Hashes of received 
file:  - 
SHA256:7989bb311baa38ef545250282aa065d23281c46dfb8faabe4c653487bdbded5c 
- MD5Sum:31f6566d35ccd604be46ed5b1f813cdf [weak]  - Filesize:29 [weak] 
Last modification reported: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:43:09 + Release file 
created at: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:30:53 + Some index files failed to 
download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."


How do I get rid of this error please?

regards,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda9
Registered Linux User #380263

Sis/Testing, apt error "Failed to fetch copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial..

[Jimmy Johnson]

I'm getting this on a few of my system while updating apt,

"Failed to fetch 
copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sid_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz 
 Hash Sum mismatch Hashes of expected file:  - Filesize:1024 [weak]  - 
SHA256:5f70bf18a086007016e948b04aed3b82103a36bea41755b6cddfaf10ace3c6ef 
- MD5Sum:0f343b0931126a20f133d67c2b018a3b [weak] Hashes of received 
file:  - 
SHA256:7989bb311baa38ef545250282aa065d23281c46dfb8faabe4c653487bdbded5c 
- MD5Sum:31f6566d35ccd604be46ed5b1f813cdf [weak]  - Filesize:29 [weak] 
Last modification reported: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:43:09 + Release file 
created at: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:30:53 + Failed to fetch 
copy:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_stretch_non-free_dep11_icons-64x64.tar.gz 
 Hash Sum mismatch Hashes of expected file:  - Filesize:1024 [weak]  - 
SHA256:5f70bf18a086007016e948b04aed3b82103a36bea41755b6cddfaf10ace3c6ef 
- MD5Sum:0f343b0931126a20f133d67c2b018a3b [weak] Hashes of received 
file:  - 
SHA256:7989bb311baa38ef545250282aa065d23281c46dfb8faabe4c653487bdbded5c 
- MD5Sum:31f6566d35ccd604be46ed5b1f813cdf [weak]  - Filesize:29 [weak] 
Last modification reported: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 14:43:09 + Release file 
created at: Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:30:53 + Some index files failed to 
download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."


How do I get rid of this error please?

regards,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/testing - Plasma 5.8.4 - AMD64 - EXT4 at sda9
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[Vadim Kolchev]

I  am not at computer right now, sorry, but I checked dmesg while the phone
was plugged to the hub, and dmesg has shown manufacturer of device, so I
believe device is detected properly, it's just MTP that does not work.

23 янв. 2017 г. 1:05 AM пользователь "deloptes" 
написал:

> Vadim Kolchev wrote:
>
> > The phone charges, it is just that it does not mount. I can even reach it
> > with adb and push and pull files
>
> can you get the relevant dmesg when plugged directly and plugged to the
> hub?
>
> it could be hub is not accepting mtp or phone is reporting different id.
>
>
>

Re: dual boot (multi-boot) (was: Help Installing a Dual...)

[Felix Miata]

Michael Fothergill composed on 2017-01-22 14:08 (UTC):


I run a dual boot system with debian, gentoo and windows 10 on
different partitions.


Dual means "two":

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dual

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dual

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/dual?s=t
1.of, relating to, or noting two.
2.composed or consisting of two people, items, parts, etc., together; twofold; 
double:

dual ownership; dual controls on a plane.
3.having a twofold, or double, character or nature.
4.Grammar. being or pertaining to a member of the category of number, as in Old 
English, Old Russian, or Arabic, that denotes two of the things in question.

...

As you have three installed operating systems, you do have a multi-boot system, 
as well as a triple boot system. Those with dual boot, quadruple boot, quintuple 
boot, etc. systems also have multi-boot systems. Multi-boot means more than one 
installed operating system.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-booting
--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[deloptes]

Vadim Kolchev wrote:

> The phone charges, it is just that it does not mount. I can even reach it
> with adb and push and pull files

can you get the relevant dmesg when plugged directly and plugged to the hub?

it could be hub is not accepting mtp or phone is reporting different id.

Re: Multiple reportbug failure reports

[Mark Fletcher]

On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:47:39AM -0800, Gary Roach wrote:
> On 01/22/2017 11:32 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the compilation. Tho Python3.5 complaint is mine. Since reportbug
> is a python package, I will bet that python is the problem. I have filed a
> bug report by email. I t is #852163. I traced the problem back to the
> python3.5-minimal package. Hopefully the fix will come soon. It is obvious
> that this problem is causing all kinds of glitches. Is it all with stretch
> users or all versions I wonder. I've been doing some development work with
> python of late and have had my desktop freeze up periodically. I thought it
> was my development environment. Now I think it all may be due to the python
> problem.
> 
I am sure I remember seeing on this distribution list recently a fair 
number of reports that reportbug in >Jessie is currently broken...

(I thankfully have not had occasion to use it recently, but as I 
understand it reportbug in Jessie is OK)

The issue seems to be known and hopefully someone is working on it...

Mark

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[Vadim Kolchev]

The phone charges, it is just that it does not mount. I can even reach it
with adb and push and pull files

23 янв. 2017 г. 12:47 AM пользователь "deloptes" 
написал:

> Vadim Kolchev wrote:
>
> > Basically it is not an option for me, because I need to use this USB hub,
> > it is an external audio USB Interface that gives rather high quality
> audio
> > to me, and it has 3 USB ports. Not interested in any other USB hubs.
> >
> > Seems like I will connect my phone directly to USB in motherboard.
>
> It is about trying to narrow the problem. If it is hub related or software
> or something else. without exact information no one will be able to provide
> solution
> If you can tell the phone not to charge while plugged, this could be
> equivalent test.
>
>
> regards
>
>

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[deloptes]

Vadim Kolchev wrote:

> Basically it is not an option for me, because I need to use this USB hub,
> it is an external audio USB Interface that gives rather high quality audio
> to me, and it has 3 USB ports. Not interested in any other USB hubs.
> 
> Seems like I will connect my phone directly to USB in motherboard.

It is about trying to narrow the problem. If it is hub related or software
or something else. without exact information no one will be able to provide
solution
If you can tell the phone not to charge while plugged, this could be
equivalent test.


regards

Re: Multiple reportbug failure reports

[Gary Roach]

On 01/22/2017 11:32 AM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:

Hi.. This is just an observation. I already had 3 half finished drafts
to three different threads when a fourth instance of reportbug failure
just popped up, as well. Here they are in no particular order:

1) Re: reportbug and remapped "edit"; 2017.01.12 (consensus of two
individuals momentarily pondering whether thread's subject matter
caused reportbug failure)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00454.html

2) Dependency problem with virtualbox-guest-x11; 2017.01.10 (reportbug
crashing unrelated to thread's subject matter)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00377.html

3) Re: Re: iio-sensor-proxy fills my syslog on debian testing;
2017.01.22 (reportbug crashing unrelated to thread's subject matter)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00751.html

4) Errors were encountered while processing python3.5 etc; 2017.01.21
(OP suspects python3.5* upgrade killed reportbug, but maybe not k/t
the three other instances above?)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00723.html

A critical malfunction of the otherwise ever increasingly user
friendly reportbug is a huge, nasty disruption in the forward motion
of successful Debian maintenance and releases. The catch-22 is that
Debian users need... reportbug... to report an apparent bug with
reportbug. :)

Just lurking out loud... :)

Cindy


Hi Cindy

Thanks for the compilation. Tho Python3.5 complaint is mine. Since 
reportbug is a python package, I will bet that python is the problem. I 
have filed a bug report by email. I t is #852163. I traced the problem 
back to the python3.5-minimal package. Hopefully the fix will come soon. 
It is obvious that this problem is causing all kinds of glitches. Is it 
all with stretch users or all versions I wonder. I've been doing some 
development work with python of late and have had my desktop freeze up 
periodically. I thought it was my development environment. Now I think 
it all may be due to the python problem.


Regards

Gary R.

Multiple reportbug failure reports

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

Hi.. This is just an observation. I already had 3 half finished drafts
to three different threads when a fourth instance of reportbug failure
just popped up, as well. Here they are in no particular order:

1) Re: reportbug and remapped "edit"; 2017.01.12 (consensus of two
individuals momentarily pondering whether thread's subject matter
caused reportbug failure)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00454.html

2) Dependency problem with virtualbox-guest-x11; 2017.01.10 (reportbug
crashing unrelated to thread's subject matter)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00377.html

3) Re: Re: iio-sensor-proxy fills my syslog on debian testing;
2017.01.22 (reportbug crashing unrelated to thread's subject matter)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00751.html

4) Errors were encountered while processing python3.5 etc; 2017.01.21
(OP suspects python3.5* upgrade killed reportbug, but maybe not k/t
the three other instances above?)
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/01/msg00723.html

A critical malfunction of the otherwise ever increasingly user
friendly reportbug is a huge, nasty disruption in the forward motion
of successful Debian maintenance and releases. The catch-22 is that
Debian users need... reportbug... to report an apparent bug with
reportbug. :)

Just lurking out loud... :)

Cindy
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[Vadim Kolchev]

Basically it is not an option for me, because I need to use this USB hub,
it is an external audio USB Interface that gives rather high quality audio
to me, and it has 3 USB ports. Not interested in any other USB hubs.

Seems like I will connect my phone directly to USB in motherboard.

22 янв. 2017 г. 7:14 PM пользователь "deloptes" 
написал:

> Vadim Kolchev wrote:
>
> > What exactly is meant by a "better hub"? It works ok with all types of
> USB
> > flash drives, which are detected properly. It is only MTP device that is
> > not detected.
> >
> > 2017-01-21 20:57 GMT+02:00 deloptes :
> >
> >> Vadim Kolchev wrote:
> >>
> >> > I really got used to HUB, is there a way to fix it?
> >>
> >> get a better hub?
> >>
> >>
>
> OK, lets put the question another way around. Have you tried with different
> hub?
>
> My experience shows that there are hubs of a better and hubs of a lower
> quality. With some hubs something may work with some other may not. I
> experienced a similar problem with usb dvbt stick and I don't know what was
> the root cause exactly - if power too low or something with the hub.
>
> regards
>
>

hostname drops off between remote sessions

[Tony Baldwin]

I rent a VPS from Contabo, in Germany (as if the location were 
relevant), which is still running wheezy.
Lately, when I access it (generally via ssh) the hostname appears to be 
changed to (none).  I have yet to determine if this is only when I've 
had to remotely restart is from the contabo control panel, or just 
any/every time I log-in again, but it seems kind of random.
I just reset it with hostname $mychosenhostname, and that remains the 
hostname for the duration of my session, but I'll come back another time 
(Like I said, I have yet to rule out or determine whether it's only 
after reboots or not, although I'm beginning to suspect it is.), and it 
will be (none) again, although my /etc/hosts file appears unchanged.

(paste)
127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
127.0.1.1   ip-185-226-238-178.contabo.net  ip-185-226-238-178
178.238.226.185 myownsite.memyownsite
178.238.226.185 mail.myownsite.me   myownsite.me
178.238.226.185 tonybaldwin.me  myownsite.me
178.238.226.185 mail.myownsite.me   myownsite

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
# 178.238.226.185 vmi12265.contabo.net vmi12265
178.238.226.185 www.myownsite.memyownsite
(/paste)

It never, for several years, used to do this, it is recent, and to me, 
perplexing behaviour.

When I log in, I want to see
t...@myownsite.me:~$ not tony@(none):~$

Now, I'm reading 
here:https://www.vultr.com/docs/how-to-change-your-hostname-on-debian
That I have to run /etc/init.d/hostname.sh, which I do not ever recall 
having to do in the past to permanently set my hostname, and when I try 
to run that, I get an error about my hostname not being valid

:/etc/init.d# ./hostname.sh start
hostname: the specified hostname is invalid
What's going on here?

Why am I having so much headache with something as simple as setting 
permanently the hostname?
This all started in about the last 60-90 days. Prior to that I do not 
recall ever seeing this oddity.


Thanks,
Tony
--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[deloptes]

Vadim Kolchev wrote:

> What exactly is meant by a "better hub"? It works ok with all types of USB
> flash drives, which are detected properly. It is only MTP device that is
> not detected.
> 
> 2017-01-21 20:57 GMT+02:00 deloptes :
> 
>> Vadim Kolchev wrote:
>>
>> > I really got used to HUB, is there a way to fix it?
>>
>> get a better hub?
>>
>>

OK, lets put the question another way around. Have you tried with different
hub?

My experience shows that there are hubs of a better and hubs of a lower
quality. With some hubs something may work with some other may not. I
experienced a similar problem with usb dvbt stick and I don't know what was
the root cause exactly - if power too low or something with the hub. 

regards

Re: Re: iio-sensor-proxy fills my syslog on debian testing

[iqwue Wabv]

Hello Ulf, hello Debian,

Ulf thanks for the link. It helps me! After some talking in upstream 
(ticket https://github.com/hadess/iio-sensor-proxy/issues/134)

and giving some info about the problem it looks that is a bug in kernel

This is a bug in the kernel. Which might be fixed by:
http://www.spinics.net/lists/platform-driver-x86/msg09702.html

This is the Fedora bug for it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1401614




The upstream ask to give this information to distribution mainteiner, so 
I am cc to Ritesh 
Raj Sarraf. 


I tried fill the bug report, but accidentally reportbug crashes on 
gnome3 (stacktrace below): 





karol@debian:~$ reportbug
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2233, in 
main()
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 1107, in main
return iface.user_interface()
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 2149, in user_interface
package, severity, mode, charset=charset, tags=tags)
  File "/usr/bin/reportbug", line 182, in handle_editing
editor, charset)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 
1561, in func

op = klass(parent)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 
539, in __init__

self.widget = self.create_widget()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/reportbug/ui/gtk2_ui.py", line 
1173, in create_widget

expander = Gtk.Expander("Other system information")
TypeError: GObject.__init__() takes exactly 0 arguments (1 given)
karol@debian:~$





So I am writing here.





Regards, Karol

Re: Help Installing a Dual Boot Debian and Mac OS MacBook Pro 9,1

[Michael Fothergill]

On 22 January 2017 at 15:41, solitone  wrote:

> On Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:08:59 PM CET Michael Fothergill wrote:
> > you need to play with the bios on your Mac box to get it to boot from the
> > debian DVD.
>
> The point is that, in contrast to all other PCs I had, on Macs you cannot
> enter the BIOS setup and configure the boot order. You have to press the
> "Option ⌥" key while powering on the Mac. That will allow you to enter the
> Startup Manager, where you'll see a list of all bootable devices available,
> and choose the one you need (e.g. a bootable DVD-ROM).
>

​I think the discussion here seems illuminating:​


​https://linuxnewbieguide.org/how-to-install-linux-on-a-macintosh-computer/​


​You want to use a installation with efi support so apparently the Debian
Live option is not recommended because it doesn't support efi booting.

The standard installation iso files do.  If the efi installer fires up it
will apparently identify itself as such when it does so.

If you boot the Mac and choose option C in the start up mode that is
supposed to try to boot up DVD iso files etc but the article suggests this
could fail if the efi driver isn't loaded - the rEFInd utility solves this
problem it seems.

Apparently you need to convert the iso file into an image format.

It's probably easier to install Debian on an IBM 390.

Cheers MF




​

Re: Help Installing a Dual Boot Debian and Mac OS MacBook Pro 9,1

[Cathy Gramze]

As an iMac owner who has had a dual boot Mac system before:

Hold down the C key while the computer is starting up, and the computer 
will boot to the DVD. (assuming the dvd was burned correctly as a 
bootable DVD)


reFind is a very nice app, but unnecessary, and *really* mucks up being 
able to completely remove one of the boot options from the computer 
should you want to remove it later. I also found that setting up a dual 
boot system made my iMac boot much more slowly no matter which system I 
selected. This slowness persisted after I returned to a single boot 
system. YMMV.


I wish you luck, and hope you like Debian.

On 01/21/2017 02:43 PM, Rafael Lauda wrote:

Good Afternoon,

My name is Rafael Lauda and I’ve tried time and time again to install a dual 
boot Debian on my MacBook Pro 9,1. I have installed rEFInd on my MacBook Pro, 
and I have installed the iso image for Debian 8.7.1 1 onto a DVD-R. When the 
computer is turned on the dvd does not show. I had also partitioned space on 
the hard drive as well. I don’t want to settle for another Distro, I want to 
install Debian as I feel it is the best Distro currently using the Linux 
kernel. I’m not the most tech savvy but I have been putting the effort into 
becoming more computer literate. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. 
Thank you in advance for making a wonderful Distro and with any help you may 
have for me.




Best Regards,





Rafael Lauda

Re: Help Installing a Dual Boot Debian and Mac OS MacBook Pro 9,1

[solitone]

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 2:08:59 PM CET Michael Fothergill wrote:
> you need to play with the bios on your Mac box to get it to boot from the 
> debian DVD.   

The point is that, in contrast to all other PCs I had, on Macs you cannot 
enter the BIOS setup and configure the boot order. You have to press the 
"Option ⌥" key while powering on the Mac. That will allow you to enter the 
Startup Manager, where you'll see a list of all bootable devices available, 
and choose the one you need (e.g. a bootable DVD-ROM).

Re: Help Installing a Dual Boot Debian and Mac OS MacBook Pro 9,1

[Michael Fothergill]

On 21 January 2017 at 19:43, Rafael Lauda  wrote:

> Good Afternoon,
>
> My name is Rafael Lauda and I’ve tried time and time again to install a
> dual boot Debian on my MacBook Pro 9,1. I have installed rEFInd on my
> MacBook Pro, and I have installed the iso image for Debian 8.7.1 1 onto a
> DVD-R. When the computer is turned on the dvd does not show. I had also
> partitioned space on the hard drive as well. I don’t want to settle for
> another Distro, I want to install Debian as I feel it is the best Distro
> currently using the Linux kernel. I’m not the most tech savvy but I have
> been putting the effort into becoming more computer literate. Any and all
> help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance for making a
> wonderful Distro and with any help you may have for me.
>
>
>
​Greetings.  I run a dual boot system with debian, gentoo and windows 10 on
different partitions.  I would suggest a couple of things.  When you say
that the DVD does not seem to be recognised when you boot up the computer,
I am assuming that you mean that the bios is not attempting to read the DVD
and boot from it.

If that this the case then you need to play with the bios on your Mac box
to get it to boot from the debian DVD.   If you google around and seek out
some bios booting instructions for your Mac machine and experiment with it
you will be able to ​
​persuade it to go for the DVD first - before the hard drive (s) etc and
boot from it.

Once you get this to work I would suggest you try booting from a Debian
Live CD.

Then post up how you got on here on the site and suggestions on installing
the OS can be made from the vantage point of running a few diagnostic
commands concerning your disk partitions etc that would likely be suggested
by people on this list.

Regards

MIchael Fothergill




>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Rafael Lauda
>

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[Vadim Kolchev]

Yes, Frederic,
My Hub is self-powered, Cable for smartphone looks ok, as long as I use the
same one to connect to PC USB directly and it works. Seems like HUB is
unable to work with MTP device. Also, I cannot try to connect smartphone
with HUB cable becaue they are totally incompatible.

2017-01-22 16:05 GMT+02:00 Frédéric Marchal <
frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com>:

> On Saturday 21 January 2017 07:47:25 Vadim Kolchev wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Just noticed an interesting thing
> > Have an MTP Xiaomi smartphone device, all relevant packages installed.
> > Also have M-Audio M-track HUB external soundcard with 3 USB ports.
> >
> > When connecting MTP device to HUB, have message in dmesg about Xiaomi,
> but
> > it does not mount and cannot be accessed.
> >
> > When connecting to USB port of the machine directly, it shows in
> Nautilus.
> >
> > I really got used to HUB, is there a way to fix it?
>
> My experience with MTP and a Samsung smartphone is that the usb cable
> gauge is
> critical.
>
> A standard gauge 28 cable is too thin to provide a good power supply to the
> phone. The device constantly disconnects until Android gives up claiming
> that
> it could not find a suitable program on the host computer to communicate
> with.
>
> I tried gauge 24/28 cables. They give a somewhat better result but it is
> far
> from perfect. I suspect the cable is not entirely to blame at this point.
>
> Your hub or its cable could be unable to provide the required power supply
> to
> the smartphone. Is your hub self powered?
>
> Have you tried to connect the smartphone with the hub cable? It may be too
> thin for MTP requirements.
>
> Frederic
>
>

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[Frédéric Marchal]

On Saturday 21 January 2017 07:47:25 Vadim Kolchev wrote:
> Hello,
> Just noticed an interesting thing
> Have an MTP Xiaomi smartphone device, all relevant packages installed.
> Also have M-Audio M-track HUB external soundcard with 3 USB ports.
> 
> When connecting MTP device to HUB, have message in dmesg about Xiaomi, but
> it does not mount and cannot be accessed.
> 
> When connecting to USB port of the machine directly, it shows in Nautilus.
> 
> I really got used to HUB, is there a way to fix it?

My experience with MTP and a Samsung smartphone is that the usb cable gauge is 
critical.

A standard gauge 28 cable is too thin to provide a good power supply to the 
phone. The device constantly disconnects until Android gives up claiming that 
it could not find a suitable program on the host computer to communicate with.

I tried gauge 24/28 cables. They give a somewhat better result but it is far 
from perfect. I suspect the cable is not entirely to blame at this point.

Your hub or its cable could be unable to provide the required power supply to 
the smartphone. Is your hub self powered?

Have you tried to connect the smartphone with the hub cable? It may be too 
thin for MTP requirements.

Frederic

Re: Monitor switched off after resume from hibernation

[solitone]

On Monday, January 9, 2017 6:53:36 PM CET solitone wrote:
> On Monday, January 9, 2017 9:59:45 PM CET Joel Rees wrote:
> > So, just out of curiosity, what happens if you use ctrl-alt-Fn to
> > switch between virtual consoles several times after the box gets stuck
> > thinking the screen is off?
> 
> I don't have virtual consoles. During installation I could switch between
> different consoles with CTRL-ALT-Fn, but since installation has completed
> this key sequence doesn't produce any result.

Well, that's not true. In fact I do have virtual consoles. On the Mac I need 
to press ctrl+alt+fn+Fi, where i=1, 2, 3... 6 to get to one of the six 
vconsoles I have. fn is the key that makes the top row keys act as function 
keys:
http://cdn.osxdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/macbook-keyboard.jpg

As for Joel's question, trying to switch between virtual consoles several 
times doesn't result in anything--the screen keeps staying black. And it's not 
the system that *thinks* the screen is off. It is indeed off, as the following 
command from an ssh session shows:

$ cat /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/bl_power 
4

bl_power = 4 means the screen is off.

I sent a bug report on this issue some weeks ago, but it's not been considered 
till now, so I wonder whether I sent it to the right place and whether it will 
ever be considered:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=850221

Cheers,
  Davide

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[Mart van de Wege]

Tony Baldwin  writes:

> My experience has been that this whole "MTP" thing, instead of just
> mounting phones like they used to, as a storage device, has been a
> real horror show, I've given up on getting it to work consistently and
> have installed dropbox on my phone and desktop to move stuff back and
> forth, which also has its headaches and limitations, but is
> consistent, and works.. for a while I was just using an ftp client,
> ANDFTP, to move stuff back and forth to a directory on my rented VPS
> in Germany that I had sshfs mounted here at home, which also worked,
> but was a little more klunky, as they say (bit of a kludge?)
>
> Tony
>
The best option I found is to install FX Explorer and upgrade it to the
plus version, which gives me an SMB/FTP/SSH client to directly read my
PCs' filesystems (and direct access to my home fileserver).

Mart

-- 
"We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes."
--- AJS, quoting an uncertain source.

Re: MTP device mount gnome 3

[Mike Castle]

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Tony Baldwin  wrote:
> My experience has been that this whole "MTP" thing, instead of just mounting
> phones like they used to, as a storage device, has been a real horror show,

It's less of a horror show than having two operating systems trying to
write to the same block device at the same time.  Or having to disable
access to the block device from one OS, which can really mess up
applications trying to access it.  What happens on your computer if
you are running an application where the binary itself or the data it
needs is on a USB device and you pull the device out?  Now imagine
that describing everything you're running.

> I've given up on getting it to work consistently and have installed dropbox
> on my phone and desktop to move stuff back and forth, which also has its
> headaches and limitations, but is consistent, and works..

That's essentially what MTP does (only without using an third location
to sync against).  Well, probably closer to using FTP to files to/from
the device, only without using TCP/IP.  (Oh, just refreshing and
apparently one can run MTP over TCP/IP, though I suspect that
implementations being talked about here are still direct USB
connections.)

Any fancy GUI for navigating file systems should function as well for
an MTP attached device as it would for say, an FTP service.

>From what I've heard, MS had 3rd tier engineers develop MTP, and even
they are a little ashamed of it.  But, it's still the primary protocol
out there.  So, the idea of MTP is sound, but the particular design,
and the various implementations, well... there is probably room for
improvement.  But it's unlikely to happen with anything less than full
industry support.

mrc