date:20170201


On Thu, 2 Feb 2017, David Griffith wrote:


14) syslinux /dev/sdb1


The version of syslinux in the Wheezy repos is 4.05.  The one in Jessie 
repos is 6.03.  I built the earlier version on the Jessie machine to cover 
the possibility that syslinux itself is causing the problem.  That 
hypothesis appears to be true.  I'll do some poking around to see just 
when this breakage happened and file a report.



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A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

/etc/hosts.allow & /etc/hosts.deny


Has anything relating to those files changed between jessie and stretch
to affect cups being blocked?
Would a line in the allow file ALL: localhost:631 help or is the syntax
incorrect?

Re: Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore


On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, Brian wrote:


On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 16:06:59 +, David Griffith wrote:


On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, solitone wrote:

[snip]


As specified, this should work fine for most users. The other options are
more complex, mainly for people with specialised needs.

Please notice that the image must be written to the whole-disk device and
not a partition, e.g. /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1. This is also pointed out
in the liked web page.


I followed those instruction and got the same results. I installed Wheezy on
a spare machine.  There I was able to create a writable flash drive
installer that installs Jessie.


You used 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdX' and it didn't work? Is that what you
mean by "same results"?


This is the exact procedure I used to create a one-partition thumb drive, 
which is writable, to install an arbitrary release of Debian as determined 
by which ISO was copied to the partition (sudo as necessary).  When 
followed on a Wheezy machine, the result is a thumb drive that works as I 
previously described.  When performed on a Jessie machine, the result is a 
thumb drive that fails to boot.


1) Ensure these packages are installed: syslinux dosfstools mbr

2) fdisk /dev/sdb
   (delete all partitons)
   (create one primary partition)
   (change partition type to 0x0b (W95 FAT32)
   (set bootable flag)
   (write changes and quit)

3) install-mbr /dev/sdb

4) mkdosfs /dev/sdb1

5) mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

6) cd /mnt

7) wget 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/initrd.gz

8) wget 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/vmlinuz

9) cd

10) echo "default vmlinuz" > /mnt/syslinux.cfg

11) echo "append initrd=initrd.gz" >> /mnt/syslinux.cfg

12) cp ~/iso-images/debian/debian-8.7.1-amd64-CD-1.iso /mnt

13) umount /mnt

14) syslinux /dev/sdb1

15) mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

16) ls
debian-8.7.1-amd64-CD-1.iso
initrd.gz
ldlinux.c32
ldlinux.sys
syslinux.cfg
vmlinuz

17) umount /mnt

At this point, I can remove the thumb drive and boot it on another
machine.  I can also test it on QEMU.  For instance:
sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -hdb /dev/sdb -display curses

If the procedure was done on a Wheezy machine, the result is a bunch of 
text flying by and a normal install process beginning.  If done on a 
Jessie machine, the result is one of these two kernel panic dumps:


Panic 1:
[0.801766] Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996), 
BIOS1.7.5-20140531_083030-gandalf 04/01/2014
[0.801930]   81514c11 817054c8 
8800070b7ea0
[0.802072]  8151195e 8810 8800070b7eb0 
8800070b7e50
[0.802166]  8800070b7ea0 8800070b7eb8 0012 
0001
[0.802282] Call Trace:
[0.802572]  [] ? dump_stack+0x5d/0x78
[0.802654]  [] ? panic+0xc8/0x206
[0.802734]  [] ? mount_block_root+0x2a9/0x2b8
[0.802788]  [] ? SyS_mknod+0x185/0x210
[0.802841]  [] ? prepare_namespace+0x133/0x169
[0.802893]  [] ? kernel_init_freeable+0x1d7/0x1e1
[0.802945]  [] ? initcall_blacklist+0xb2/0xb2
[0.802996]  [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
[0.803046]  [] ? kernel_init+0xa/0xf0
[0.803096]  [] ? ret_from_fork+0x58/0x90
[0.803146]  [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
[0.803506] Kernel Offset: 0x0 from 0x8100 (relocation 
range:0x8000-0x9fff)
[0.803738] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mountroot fs

Panic 2:
[0.836087] DR3:  DR6:  DR7: 
[0.836087] Stack:
[0.836087]  8810 8800070b7eb0 8800070b7e50 
8800070b7ea0
[0.836087]  8800070b7eb8 0012 0001 
000a
[0.836087]  fffe 88088000 8001 
81704fb5
[0.836087] Call Trace:
[0.836087]  [] ? mount_block_root+0x2a9/0x2b8
[0.836087]  [] ? SyS_mknod+0x185/0x210
[0.836087]  [] ? prepare_namespace+0x133/0x169
[0.836087]  [] ? kernel_init_freeable+0x1d7/0x1e1
[0.836087]  [] ? initcall_blacklist+0xb2/0xb2
[0.836087]  [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
[0.836087]  [] ? kernel_init+0xa/0xf0
[0.836087]  [] ? ret_from_fork+0x58/0x90
[0.836087]  [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
[0.836087] Code: c3 64 eb b1 83 3d 48 4d 55 00 00 74 05 e8 81 d0 b7 ff 48 c7 c6 
c0 67 a6 81 48 c7 c7 f8 68 71 81 31 c0 e8 66 06 00 00 fb 66 66 90 <66> 66 90 45 
31 e4 e8 9d ce be ff 4d 39 ec 7c 18 41 83 f6 01 44
[0.836087] RIP  [] panic+0x1c2/0x206
[0.836087]  RSP 
[0.836087] ---[ end trace b6399ee6bd96477c ]---


So, in conclusion, the procedure works when done on a Wheezy machine, 
but not on a Jessie machine.  Why?  How can the problem be fixed?


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A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A:

Re: What file system to use?

Is there any difference between ext3 and ext4 in terms of backing up a
system?  I can't recall the details but I run into a backup problem once
and remember reading that ext4 was under experimentation by the backup
developers and ext3 was supported fully but not ext4.
I am not sure if it was clonezilla or not.

Gary Dale:
> On 01/02/17 03:23 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
>> I am going to install some more disks and I was wondering which file
>> system to use.
>>
>> I have several ext? and a few with Reiserfs. Is there a better choice
>> than Reiser now? Also, is there any way to convert from my existing fs
>> to the recommended one?
>>
>> BTW, I am running "Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" on 686-pae.
>>
>> Many TIA!
>> Dennis
>>
> Haven't used Reiser since he was charged with murder. It used to have
> some advantages but they have long since been obviated.
> 
> BTRFS will become the default choice at some point but the last time I
> checked, it was still a lot slower than ext4.
> 
> I avoid LVM because I don't see any point in adding complexity to a
> system when you don't need to. Unless you are constantly fiddling with
> partitions, you don't need it.
> 
> However if you have a multi-disk system, I suggest using software RAID
> (mdadm) to provide some safety against disk failure. I use RAID6 on
> servers and either RAID1 or RAID5 on workstations. Disks are cheap
> enough these days that I don't see any need to worry about disk failures.
> 
> Finally, I recommend using an SSD for your system drive. The extra speed
> is worth it on workstations. However I always use RAID for /home and
> network shares.
> 
> 

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Re: CUPS in stretch does NOT WORK - Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 23:21:00 +, Brian wrote:

> When cupsd starts (as yours has done) it listens for incoming connections
> on port 631 for tcp and tcp6. Print jobs are sent to port 631. A browser
> connects to tcp port 631. Your netstat output shows no listening on tcp
> port 631. No wonder http://localhost:631 will not work.
> 
> Reason? No idea, but that is problem. It could lie with your cupsd.conf
> in /etc/cups. Or something you have done with the networking setup.

The default cupsd.conf has the line

 Listen localhost:631

Does yours?

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Re: CUPS in stretch does NOT WORK - Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 21:55:00 +, Roba wrote:

> I hope you don't mind helping me still even most of this makes little
> sense to me.  I still don't want all my ip stuff going out to the list
> So here is the output
> 
> Brian:$ systemctl status cups
> �� cups.service - CUPS Scheduler
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled; vendor
> preset: ena
>Active: active (running) since Wed 2017-02-01 @@T; xh ymin ago
>  Docs: man:cupsd(8)
>  Main PID: 353 (cupsd)
> Tasks: 2 (limit: 4915)
>CGroup: /system.slice/cups.service
>�� 353 /usr/sbin/cupsd -l
>��5428 /usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://
> 
> Feb 01 z systemd[1]: Started CUPS Scheduler.

This shows that the main managing process, cupsd, is running. Without
it, you can do no printing. It looks good up to now. But see later.
 
> $ netstat -tulpan
> (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address
> State   PID/Program name
> tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:38837   0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9050  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:2013  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:7070  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:1984  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:46465   0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:20490.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:51395   0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:48197   0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9000  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9001  0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:53730  93.184.220.29:80
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:34794 127.0.0.1:9001
> ESTABLISHED -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9001  127.0.0.1:34794
> ESTABLISHED -
> tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:53728  93.184.220.29:80
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:53998  93.184.220.29:80
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9000  127.0.0.1:44002
> ESTABLISHED -
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:44002 127.0.0.1:9000
> ESTABLISHED -
> tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:48406  54.192.217.183:443
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:45126  54.192.217.224:443
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:48584  54.192.217.207:443
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp6   0  0 :::36915:::*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp6   0  0 :::22   :::*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp6   0  0 :::60153:::*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp6   0  0 :::2049 :::*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp6   0  0 :::51429:::*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp6   0  0 :::50731:::*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp6   0  0 :::111  :::*
> LISTEN  -
> tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:47310 2a00:1450:4017:803:::80
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:42114 2a00:1450:4017:804::443
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:33574 2a00:1450:4017:803::443
> TIME_WAIT   -
> tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:46414 2a00:1450:4017:803::443
> TIME_WAIT   -
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:33645   0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:927 0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:53530.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:48658   0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:34484   0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:20490.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:35347   0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:35403   0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp0  0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::927  :::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::5353 :::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::40494:::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::42937:::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::2049 :::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::111  :::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::47399:::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::49449:::*
>-
> udp6   0  0 :::41524:::*
>-
> 
>

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Re: What file system to use?

2017-02-01 Thread Gary Dale


On 01/02/17 03:23 AM, Dennis Wicks wrote:
I am going to install some more disks and I was wondering which file 
system to use.


I have several ext? and a few with Reiserfs. Is there a better choice 
than Reiser now? Also, is there any way to convert from my existing fs 
to the recommended one?


BTW, I am running "Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" on 686-pae.

Many TIA!
Dennis

Haven't used Reiser since he was charged with murder. It used to have 
some advantages but they have long since been obviated.


BTRFS will become the default choice at some point but the last time I 
checked, it was still a lot slower than ext4.


I avoid LVM because I don't see any point in adding complexity to a 
system when you don't need to. Unless you are constantly fiddling with 
partitions, you don't need it.


However if you have a multi-disk system, I suggest using software RAID 
(mdadm) to provide some safety against disk failure. I use RAID6 on 
servers and either RAID1 or RAID5 on workstations. Disks are cheap 
enough these days that I don't see any need to worry about disk failures.


Finally, I recommend using an SSD for your system drive. The extra speed 
is worth it on workstations. However I always use RAID for /home and 
network shares.

Re: Debian/Stretch: how to boot in text mode

2017-02-01 Thread Ennio-Sr

* Felix Miata  [010217, 16:08]:
> Ennio-Sr composed on 2017-02-01 21:21 (UTC+0100):
> 
> > After upgrading to Stretch I'm unable to find a way to boot with no GUI.
> > I tried setting 'GRUB-GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="text" in /etc/default/grub,
> > moving to 'K01gdm3' all 'S??gdm3' instances in /etc/rc?.d, but nothing
> > happens.
> 
> You haven't provided your meaning for "text mode".
> 

What I ment was to receive (after booting) a login prompt in tty1 console;
then, if and when I need it switch to a new tty and call 'startx'
Michael's reply was perfect: it did exactly what I wanted ;-)


> Greg and Michael's replies answer how to stop booting to a GUI login manager.
> 
> If instead what you wish is to avoid seeing any GUI effects, but do want to
> see boot messages from kernel and scripts as init proceeds, you need to
> ensure they have not been turned off by quiet or splash parameters on the
> kernel cmdline. Also, Plymouth may have been installed, which is a more
> sophisticated form of GUI splash during boot. Maybe all you need to do is
> purge Plymouth, and/or eliminate quiet and/or splash from your kernel
> cmdline (purge them from both GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= and
> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub, then run update-grub).

I'll keep in mind your suggestions: for the time being I'm not sure I
understand them well.

Many thanks to you all (Greg, Michael and youself) for the rapid and
efficient answers.
Regards, Ennio

P:S: I'm answering your message from mutt (in a console) from my laptop
as I messed up with postfix on main PC and my messages are being bounced
by the list. Now I've got to understand how to solve this new problem...

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Re: CUPS in stretch does NOT WORK - Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

I hope you don't mind helping me still even most of this makes little
sense to me.  I still don't want all my ip stuff going out to the list
So here is the output

Brian:$ systemctl status cups
�� cups.service - CUPS Scheduler
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/cups.service; enabled; vendor
preset: ena
   Active: active (running) since Wed 2017-02-01 @@T; xh ymin ago
 Docs: man:cupsd(8)
 Main PID: 353 (cupsd)
Tasks: 2 (limit: 4915)
   CGroup: /system.slice/cups.service
   �� 353 /usr/sbin/cupsd -l
   ��5428 /usr/lib/cups/notifier/dbus dbus://

Feb 01 z systemd[1]: Started CUPS Scheduler.

$ netstat -tulpan
(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info
 will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address
State   PID/Program name
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:38837   0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9050  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:2013  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:7070  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:1984  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:46465   0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:20490.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:51395   0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:48197   0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9000  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9001  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  -
tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:53730  93.184.220.29:80
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:34794 127.0.0.1:9001
ESTABLISHED -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9001  127.0.0.1:34794
ESTABLISHED -
tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:53728  93.184.220.29:80
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:53998  93.184.220.29:80
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9000  127.0.0.1:44002
ESTABLISHED -
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:44002 127.0.0.1:9000
ESTABLISHED -
tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:48406  54.192.217.183:443
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:45126  54.192.217.224:443
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp0  0 192.168.1.45:48584  54.192.217.207:443
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp6   0  0 :::36915:::*
LISTEN  -
tcp6   0  0 :::22   :::*
LISTEN  -
tcp6   0  0 :::60153:::*
LISTEN  -
tcp6   0  0 :::2049 :::*
LISTEN  -
tcp6   0  0 :::51429:::*
LISTEN  -
tcp6   0  0 :::50731:::*
LISTEN  -
tcp6   0  0 :::111  :::*
LISTEN  -
tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:47310 2a00:1450:4017:803:::80
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:42114 2a00:1450:4017:804::443
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:33574 2a00:1450:4017:803::443
TIME_WAIT   -
tcp6   0  0 2a02:2149:864a:4d:46414 2a00:1450:4017:803::443
TIME_WAIT   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:33645   0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:927 0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:53530.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:48658   0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:34484   0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:20490.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:68  0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:111 0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:35347   0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:35403   0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:631 0.0.0.0:*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::927  :::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::5353 :::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::40494:::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::42937:::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::2049 :::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::111  :::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::47399:::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::49449:::*
   -
udp6   0  0 :::41524:::*
   -

as root

netstat -tulpan
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address
State   PID/Program name
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:38837   0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  963/rpc.mountd
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:22  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  957/sshd
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:9050  0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  1123/tor
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:2013  0.0.0.0:*

Re: Debian natively on Android device

deloptes wrote:

> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
>> In fact I was not disappointed for your words, only curious about their
>> sense, in a technical way.
> 
> The problem is within the OEM not giving specs away so there are no
> drivers for the hardware.
> What helps if you can boot and nothing else works. Booting itself is
> tricky ... as those devices are not pc architecture - look at Raspberry
> ...
> 
> I had a look yesterday at https://www.bq.com/en/aquaris-x5
> BQ offers a flash utility. Not sure if other OEMs are offering the same,
> but this is promising.
> 
> regards

https://www.bq.com/en/aquaris-m10-ubuntu-edition

tablet with ubuntu - looks good for 229€

Re: Debian natively on Android device

Joe wrote:

> There are plenty of cheap tablets around now, even some running
> Windows, which without doubt would run Debian.
How do you make this conclusion?

Debian can run on arm processor, but the devices are a problem. We are in
the 1980ies in the smart phones now. I guess the big players have learned a
lesson and it will be much harder to repeat the linux story there.

regards

Re: Fwd: troubles running a printer on Mint17.3 "Rosa"

2017-02-01 Thread albcares

2017-02-01 12:27 GMT+01:00 Brian :

> On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 09:35:20 +0100, albcares wrote:
>
> > thanks for Ur fast answer. I'll try to do my best to explain.
> > I correctly see Optra labelled as "generic" in the printer list. The firs
> > print I get is generally good. But if I send another one, it jumps out as
> > wide as if it saw only the first quarter up the sheet: wide fonts, wider
> > grafics; the white field itself is printed with artefacts like clouds of
> > black spots. Each time I want to print beyond one document I must turn
> off
> > - turn on the printer. I supposed that any process remained hanging
> > somewhere but I couldn't find out.
>
> Did printing work before you "re-adjusted" CUPS? Try using the USB
> and parallel connections to print. Is there a significant difference?
>
> Get yourself a few small PostScript files from different sources.
> pdf2ps and Firefox are two ways to produce one. Plug the printer
> into a USB port and check the device in /dev/usb (lp0, lp1?). Send a
> file directly to the printer with
>
>  cat  > /dev/usb/lp0
>
> How does that go?
>
> --
> Brian.
>
> well, I checked as you Brian had adviced me. Firstly, I have no parallel
port on my tiny motherboard. Then my System identifies the printer after
"sudo lsusb" as Lexmark Optra E312, which could be correct. And indeed I
remember that before smashing CUPS I sometimes had the same problem.
the .ps files are printed via command-line.
furthermore, as I am not exactly a proper device-tester, I changed the
"driver" from *PCL-5 Printer CUPS+Gutenprint* to a *PCL-5 Printer Foomatic*
both provided by the OS itself. And it appears running better. I want to go
on printing a bit more before crowing.
What do You think? could the origin of the mistakes be in one of these
"drivers"? Has anyone the same or similar printer?


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Re: Depot Squeeze

2017-02-01 Thread Pascal Hambourg


Le 01/02/2017 à 09:51, David Martin a écrit :


Savez vous si il existe un dépot archive squeeze que je peux mettre dans
mon source.list ?


Dépôt des anciennes versions archivées :

Zimowisko Linuxowe TLUG-u Puck-2017.

2017-02-01 Thread Krzysztof Zubik


W dniu 09.01.2017 o 21:43, Krzysztof Zubik pisze:
> > Witam.
> > Od 3 marca, piatek do 5 marca, niedziela odbedzie sie Zimowisko
> > Linuxowe Trojmiejskiej Grupy Uzytkownikow Linuxa Puck-2017.
> >
> > Witryna pod http://zimowisko.linux.gda.pl
> >
> > Miejsce. Powiatowe Centrum Kształcenia Zawodowego i Ustawicznego w 
Pucku.

> > ul. Kolejowa 7.
> >
> > Cytuje wybrany fragment z witryny.
> >
> > Tegoroczne zimowisko będzie się składać z trzech części:
> >
> > tradycyjne wykłady o tematyce linuksowej i okołolinuksowej,
> > strefa Makerspace to miejsce w którym będzie można zobaczyć 
drukarki 3D, frezarki oraz inne konstrukcje w duchu openHardware.
> > retro strefa organizowana przez miłośników komputerów takich 
jak: Atari, Amiga, C64, czy Spectrum. W programie granie i zawody w 
grach, renowacje i rozbudowy retro sprzętu, konfiguracje systemów i 
programowanie oraz oczywiście dwie noce z demosceną.

> >
> > Jak co roku wykładowcy zwolnieni są z opłaty akredytacji, oraz 
zyskują nieśmiertelną sławę i wdzięczność naszej społeczności.

> > Zapewniamy:
> > - profesjonalną salę wykładową z rzutnikiem i nagłośnieniem
> > - salę techniczną dla warsztatów z telewizorem, rzutnikiem, tablicą 
i stołami technicznymi

Witam.
Poniewaz jeszcze jest malo zgloszen bardzo nam potrzeba wiecej chetnych 
do poprowadzenia prezentacji, lub warsztatow. Zgloszenia do 9 lutego pod

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc5FU94-sBCsL18z2q1RKg52Gb0R-zTXlVA5Z2ZhdfTr7I3Hw/viewform
Od ilosci zgloszen zalezy czy Zimowisko wogole sie odbedzie.
Pozostalo jeszcze kilka dni na zglaszanie.

Kilka dni temu zalozylem tez wydarzenie na fb. pod
https://www.facebook.com/events/917204481749138

Open Source jest dziś największym i najważniejszym nurtem w sektorze IT 
- albo dasz się ponieść na fali, albo utoniesz próbując płynąć pod prąd...

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Re: Debian natively on Android device

Joe  writes:

>
> There are plenty of cheap tablets around now, even some running
> Windows, which without doubt would run Debian.

Please which ones?  (Do you mean the so called WinPads?)

Thanks,

Rodolfo

Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Joe

On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:52:17 +
Rodolfo Medina  wrote:

> Joe  writes:
> 

> > It is certainly a worthwhile goal. I would consider using a
> > smartphone if I could put a sane OS on one, I have no interest in
> > them at the moment.
> >
> > Probably better a tablet, my current phone has real clicky buttons
> > and makes calls well, I'm not sure I'd give it up for one where the
> > numbers disappear part of the way through a '..press two for
> > sales..' rigmarole.  
> 
> In my understanding, nowadays' smartphones and tablets are just
> computers, of smaller sizes and different shapes.  So I wonder about
> GNU Debian Linux running on them as it does with desktop pcs and
> laptops.  You just boot those devices from CD or pendrive, and the
> installation can start...  And I wish I could the same with those...
> 

My understanding is that at the moment, it's all very random. It's
relatively easy to do something inside a chroot, but still a bit messy,
with actually running native being limited to a handful of devices.
There's still a lot of 'we got Ubuntu running fine, but the sound didn't
work, or the wifi...', leaving the device unable to actually do very
much.

There are plenty of cheap tablets around now, even some running
Windows, which without doubt would run Debian. It's getting from here to
there which is the problem, and few of us have the kind of time that
might well be necessary, even assuming that drivers were available.
*Very* few of us could write a wifi driver.

-- 
Joe

Re: Debian natively on Android device

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> In fact I was not disappointed for your words, only curious about their
> sense, in a technical way.

The problem is within the OEM not giving specs away so there are no drivers
for the hardware.
What helps if you can boot and nothing else works. Booting itself is
tricky ... as those devices are not pc architecture - look at Raspberry ...

I had a look yesterday at https://www.bq.com/en/aquaris-x5
BQ offers a flash utility. Not sure if other OEMs are offering the same, but
this is promising.

regards

Re: Debian/Stretch: how to boot in text mode

2017-02-01 Thread Felix Miata


Ennio-Sr composed on 2017-02-01 21:21 (UTC+0100):


After upgrading to Stretch I'm unable to find a way to boot with no GUI.
I tried setting 'GRUB-GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="text" in /etc/default/grub,
moving to 'K01gdm3' all 'S??gdm3' instances in /etc/rc?.d, but nothing
happens.


You haven't provided your meaning for "text mode".

Greg and Michael's replies answer how to stop booting to a GUI login manager.

If instead what you wish is to avoid seeing any GUI effects, but do want to see 
boot messages from kernel and scripts as init proceeds, you need to ensure they 
have not been turned off by quiet or splash parameters on the kernel cmdline. 
Also, Plymouth may have been installed, which is a more sophisticated form of 
GUI splash during boot. Maybe all you need to do is purge Plymouth, and/or 
eliminate quiet and/or splash from your kernel cmdline (purge them from both 
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub, then 
run update-grub).

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Re: Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore

On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 16:06:59 +, David Griffith wrote:

> On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, solitone wrote:
> 
> >Why don't you  follow  what explained here:
> >https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en
> >
> >It's a simple two command procedure:
> >
> ># cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
> ># sync
> 
> I don't follow it because I want to be able to include a preseed file and
> assorted non-free firmware packages.  I also want to include assorted other
> things that I like to put on a fresh machine.

The USB stick will have spare space for files on another partition. Your
objection is spurious and a non-starter.

> >As specified, this should work fine for most users. The other options are
> >more complex, mainly for people with specialised needs.
> >
> >Please notice that the image must be written to the whole-disk device and
> >not a partition, e.g. /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1. This is also pointed out
> >in the liked web page.
> 
> I followed those instruction and got the same results. I installed Wheezy on
> a spare machine.  There I was able to create a writable flash drive
> installer that installs Jessie.

You used 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdX' and it didn't work? Is that what you
mean by "same results"?

-- 
Brian.

Re: Debian natively on Android device

Joe  writes:

> On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:58:13 +0100
> deloptes  wrote:
>
>> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>> 
>> > Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his
>> > perspective you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or
>> > something ;-P
>> > 
>> > Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus
>> > my tongue-in-cheek. I still couldn't resist: whenever I see someone
>> > telling someone else "you're wasting your time" in such absolute
>> > terms, I cringe, while some baby unicorn dies in some rainbow
>> > universe.  
>> 
>> Ah, you are right to put this proposition forward, but I have also
>> the right to put mine :)
>> It is not meant in general terms, it is about investing the most
>> precious we have in a meaningful way.
>> There are people who have gone this way (debian/mobile) already and
>> gained some experience. There are few projects that need some support
>> if someone wants to spend some time I would recommend joining those
>> projects.
>> 
>> I am sorry if my language sound that imperative - I meant it as an
>> advise. And please note I said "I admire people that have time to
>> waste". Note "admire" and "people that have time to waste" is totally
>> neutral - he has time to waste - I don't mind, I just admire this
>> person, because my time is limited. I do not understand how you can
>> conclude that I pretend to have rights on his time - he can waste it
>> or not - the point is the outcome.
>> He'll go in a dead end, would you let this person spent hours for
>> nothing. Better join some community that is already working on this.
>> 
>
> It is certainly a worthwhile goal. I would consider using a smartphone
> if I could put a sane OS on one, I have no interest in them at the
> moment.
>
> Probably better a tablet, my current phone has real clicky buttons and
> makes calls well, I'm not sure I'd give it up for one where the numbers
> disappear part of the way through a '..press two for sales..' rigmarole.

In my understanding, nowadays' smartphones and tablets are just computers, of
smaller sizes and different shapes.  So I wonder about GNU Debian Linux running
on them as it does with desktop pcs and laptops.  You just boot those devices
from CD or pendrive, and the installation can start...  And I wish I could the
same with those...

Rodolfo

Re: Debian natively on Android device

deloptes  writes:

> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
>> Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his perspective
>> you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or something ;-P
>> 
>> Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus my
>> tongue-in-cheek. I still couldn't resist: whenever I see someone telling
>> someone else "you're wasting your time" in such absolute terms, I cringe,
>> while some baby unicorn dies in some rainbow universe.
>
> Ah, you are right to put this proposition forward, but I have also the right
> to put mine :)
> It is not meant in general terms, it is about investing the most precious we
> have in a meaningful way.
> There are people who have gone this way (debian/mobile) already and gained
> some experience. There are few projects that need some support if someone
> wants to spend some time I would recommend joining those projects.
>
> I am sorry if my language sound that imperative - I meant it as an advise.
> And please note I said "I admire people that have time to waste". 
> Note "admire" and "people that have time to waste" is totally neutral - he
> has time to waste - I don't mind, I just admire this person, because my
> time is limited. I do not understand how you can conclude that I pretend to
> have rights on his time - he can waste it or not - the point is the
> outcome.
> He'll go in a dead end, would you let this person spent hours for nothing.
> Better join some community that is already working on this.
>
> regards

In fact I was not disappointed for your words, only curious about their sense,
in a technical way.

Cheers,

Rodolfo

Re: Debian natively on Android device

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> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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> Ah, you are right to put this proposition forward, but I have also the right
> to put mine :)

Of course. I was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, remember.

> It is not meant in general terms, it is about investing the most precious we
> have in a meaningful way.
> There are people who have gone this way (debian/mobile) already and gained
> some experience. There are few projects that need some support if someone
> wants to spend some time I would recommend joining those projects.

Yes. Still -- creating software is somewhat of a wild optimization process,
a bit similar to genetic programming. Some population diversity can only
help...

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Re: Debian natively on Android device

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Apart from that, the technical aspects of that `waste of time' could be
> maybe of some interests to be discussed or reported here.

Have a look at Jolla and Sailfish - these are the formal Nokia guys that
build N9. This is based on Mer project a split of MeeGo/Maemo. IMO it is
most promising. Those people spent much more time in doing what you are
trying to do and they have experience with mobile phones. I had followed as
far as possible all those alternative projects - nothing really usable
except for the Nokia N9 and Sailfish, but this is my opinion.

It's not only about putting debian on the device - it's about using the
device in some meaningful way. If you need a light weight device, better
use Raspberry as it offers more and size and specs are almost the same.
Support however and drivers are available, while for many mobile phones
there are no clear specs and drivers, which is the real show stopper.

regards

Re: Debian/Stretch: how to boot in text mode

2017-02-01 Thread Michael Biebl

Am 01.02.2017 um 21:21 schrieb Ennio-Sr:
> Hi all!
> 
> After upgrading to Stretch I'm unable to find a way to boot with no GUI.
> I tried setting 'GRUB-GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="text" in /etc/default/grub,
> moving to 'K01gdm3' all 'S??gdm3' instances in /etc/rc?.d, but nothing
> happens.
> Any help, please?

To temporarily boot into text mode, edit the kernel command line in grub
and add "systemd.unit=multi-user.target"

If you want to make this change permanent, run "systemct set-default
multi-user.target"

The default is graphical.target, which will start your display manager,
like gdm3.

Regards,
Michael


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Re: Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore

David Griffith wrote:

> QEMU Standard PC
Why QEMU?

Just follow the instructions to copy the iso to the usb drive and then
modify the usb drive to suite your needs. Use UUID in the grub and fstab to
be able to boot from the usb without manual intervention in grub on boot.

regards

Re: Debian/Stretch: how to boot in text mode

2017-02-01 Thread Greg Wooledge

On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 09:21:16PM +0100, Ennio-Sr wrote:
> After upgrading to Stretch I'm unable to find a way to boot with no GUI.
> I tried setting 'GRUB-GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="text" in /etc/default/grub,
> moving to 'K01gdm3' all 'S??gdm3' instances in /etc/rc?.d, but nothing
> happens.
> Any help, please?

The easiest way is to remove whatever display manager is running by
default.  This works in every version of Debian and is super easy.

However, some people want to keep the display manager installed, but
prevent it from running at boot time.  This is much more difficult
and will involve understanding how your init system works.

In jessie and stretch, the default init system is called "systemd".
It doesn't use /etc/rc*.d/[KS]* symlinks to control services.  Instead,
you use commands to control it:

systemctl status gdm3
systemctl disable gdm3
systemctl stop gdm3

and so on, where "gdm3" is the name of the service that you want to
manage.  See "man systemctl" for some more details on that particular
command, or "man systemd" for a more general starting point.

There may even be some special magic required for display managers,
above and beyond the init system.  If systemctl disable doesn't work,
then report back and let us know which DM it is.  Maybe someone will
know the magic involved in disabling it.

... or you could just remove the package.  That will always work.

Debian/Stretch: how to boot in text mode

2017-02-01 Thread Ennio-Sr

Hi all!

After upgrading to Stretch I'm unable to find a way to boot with no GUI.
I tried setting 'GRUB-GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX="text" in /etc/default/grub,
moving to 'K01gdm3' all 'S??gdm3' instances in /etc/rc?.d, but nothing
happens.
Any help, please?
Regards, Ennio

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Re: Debian natively on Android device

2017-02-01 Thread Joe

On Wed, 01 Feb 2017 20:58:13 +0100
deloptes  wrote:

> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his
> > perspective you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or
> > something ;-P
> > 
> > Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus
> > my tongue-in-cheek. I still couldn't resist: whenever I see someone
> > telling someone else "you're wasting your time" in such absolute
> > terms, I cringe, while some baby unicorn dies in some rainbow
> > universe.  
> 
> Ah, you are right to put this proposition forward, but I have also
> the right to put mine :)
> It is not meant in general terms, it is about investing the most
> precious we have in a meaningful way.
> There are people who have gone this way (debian/mobile) already and
> gained some experience. There are few projects that need some support
> if someone wants to spend some time I would recommend joining those
> projects.
> 
> I am sorry if my language sound that imperative - I meant it as an
> advise. And please note I said "I admire people that have time to
> waste". Note "admire" and "people that have time to waste" is totally
> neutral - he has time to waste - I don't mind, I just admire this
> person, because my time is limited. I do not understand how you can
> conclude that I pretend to have rights on his time - he can waste it
> or not - the point is the outcome.
> He'll go in a dead end, would you let this person spent hours for
> nothing. Better join some community that is already working on this.
> 

It is certainly a worthwhile goal. I would consider using a smartphone
if I could put a sane OS on one, I have no interest in them at the
moment.

Probably better a tablet, my current phone has real clicky buttons and
makes calls well, I'm not sure I'd give it up for one where the numbers
disappear part of the way through a '..press two for sales..' rigmarole.

-- 
Joe

Re: Debian natively on Android device

 writes:

> On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 02:47:57PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> deloptes  writes:
>> 
>> > Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and
>> >> I visited:
>> >> 
>> >>  https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile
>
> [...]
>
>> > There is one device running on native (or almost native debian). The
>> > device is called Nokia N9.
>
> [...]
>
>> > Honestly I admire people that have time to waste!
>> 
>> 
>> Why do you say `waste of time'?  I won't say you're wrong, just see what you
>> mean...
>
> Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his perspective
> you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or something ;-P
>
> Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus my
> tongue-in-cheek. I still couldn't resist: whenever I see someone telling
> someone else "you're wasting your time" in such absolute terms, I cringe,
> while some baby unicorn dies in some rainbow universe.

Apart from that, the technical aspects of that `waste of time' could be maybe
of some interests to be discussed or reported here.

Rodolfo

Re: Can I use more than one nic?

2017-02-01 Thread Sven Hartge

Dan Ritter  wrote:

> Case 2: a system gains redundancy and capacity.
> Each NIC attaches to the same switch. The switch has to be
> configurable to do Link Aggregation Protocol -- not all can.
> You configure the system NICs to become a bond device, using
> 802.3ad mode. Now traffic can flow through all the bonded 
> NICs and is resilient if one of the links dies.

Case 2a: a system gains redundancy and capacity.
 Each NIC attaches to one or multiple switches Those switches
 do not need any special support for LACP, but need to be 
 connected in some way.
 You configure the system NICs to become a bond device, using
 ALB mode. Now traffic can flow through all the bonded
 NICs and is resilient if one of the links dies.

 (But ALB does not protect you from falsely plugged cables
 like LACP/802.3ad does.)

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: Debian natively on Android device

to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his perspective
> you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or something ;-P
> 
> Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus my
> tongue-in-cheek. I still couldn't resist: whenever I see someone telling
> someone else "you're wasting your time" in such absolute terms, I cringe,
> while some baby unicorn dies in some rainbow universe.

Ah, you are right to put this proposition forward, but I have also the right
to put mine :)
It is not meant in general terms, it is about investing the most precious we
have in a meaningful way.
There are people who have gone this way (debian/mobile) already and gained
some experience. There are few projects that need some support if someone
wants to spend some time I would recommend joining those projects.

I am sorry if my language sound that imperative - I meant it as an advise.
And please note I said "I admire people that have time to waste". 
Note "admire" and "people that have time to waste" is totally neutral - he
has time to waste - I don't mind, I just admire this person, because my
time is limited. I do not understand how you can conclude that I pretend to
have rights on his time - he can waste it or not - the point is the
outcome.
He'll go in a dead end, would you let this person spent hours for nothing.
Better join some community that is already working on this.

regards

Re: Bluetooth: unable to pair Apple Wireless Keyboard Mod. A1016

2017-02-01 Thread Ennio-Sr

* deloptes  [010217, 00:46]:
> ennio wrote:
> 
> > I'm waiting for 'stretch' to be officially the new 'stable' debian
> > version on 5th February so as to fully upgrade my system (now it is
> > partially Jessie, partially Stretch) and check again whether or not
> > bluetooth works with this quite old keyboard.
> 
> You could use stretch in apt/sources.list and upgrade already. No need to
> wait until 5th. Have some balls, show some character!
> 
> regards

OK, I did it, but nothing changed: getting more or less the same errors
as before,may be some more. But I'll come back with some consistent data...
Regards, Ennio
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Re: Can I use more than one nic?

2017-02-01 Thread Dan Purgert

Dennis Wicks wrote:
> I find myself with several unused NICs (network interface 
> cards) and some empty ports on my switches.
>
> Would it be beneficial to have more than one network 
> connection on a system?

As with many things, "it depends".  What's the box in question do?


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Re: Can I use more than one nic?

2017-02-01 Thread Dan Ritter

On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 11:55:46AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> I find myself with several unused NICs (network interface cards) and some
> empty ports on my switches.
> 
> Would it be beneficial to have more than one network connection on a system?
> 
> If so, what would I do with it, and how would I set it up? Pointers to
> tutorials and how-to's would be nice!

Case 1: A system becomes a router.
Each NIC attaches to a different IP network. Turn on IP
Forwarding. Now it's a router.
Run iptables, and it's a firewall, too.

Case 2: a system gains redundancy and capacity.
Each NIC attaches to the same switch. The switch has to be
configurable to do Link Aggregation Protocol -- not all can.
You configure the system NICs to become a bond device, using
802.3ad mode. Now traffic can flow through all the bonded 
NICs and is resilient if one of the links dies.

Case 3: direct connection to another system.
If you have, for example, a machine which offers a lot of
storage and a machine which uses a lot of storage, you can
connect them directly and gain speed and security, possibly
at the cost of redundancy.

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Re: instalar wireless-tools

2017-02-01 Thread AlexLikeRock




On 01/16/2017 12:48 PM, Juan sanchez wrote:

Señores buenos días.
En una red prestada instalé jessie con un disco net.iso.
Pero al tratar de utilizarla en wifi
no se cargaron los componentes wireless-tools.
ya no tengo acceso al la red cableada y si a wifi.
como puedo instalar wireless-tools?
¿ lo puedo extraer del disco.iso e instalarlo con apt-get?...
o con dpkg?...
alguna idea?
Muchas gracias.



se supone que tu CD de isntalacion esta en los repositorios de fuentes 
instaladoras de paquetes.


si metes el CD,
apt-get update
fijate si lo detecta

en caso que no este lo puedes agregar

*# apt-cdrom*  add

manual ;
https://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-cdrom




2da- obcion descargalo a el y sus dependencias (una por una)
desde la pagina web

https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wireless-tools=names=all=all

Re: Duvida Redes + Apache linux

2017-02-01 Thread Rodrigo Cunha

Opa, fala lucas...eu troquei o ip publico para me proteger, afinal aqui é
uma lista publica...rs.
Mas as analogias são essas ai:

O ip 200.0.0.33 (ip publico hipotético) é este.
O ip 192.168.2.3 (ip privado real) é este.

Em 1 de fevereiro de 2017 14:23, Lucas Castro 
escreveu:

> pode passar mais detalhes?
>
> de onde está tentando acessar o seu servidor apache, é da mesma rede?
>
> o ip 200.0.0.33 é seu endereço externo?
>
> o ip 192.168.2.3 é onde roda o apache?
>
>
> --
>
> Lucas Castro
> Em 31-01-2017 22:46, Rodrigo Cunha escreveu:
>
> Prezados,
> na minha rede tenho um modem o qual eu roteio para servir de gateway para
> a minha rede;
> na minha maquina local eu tenho um apache o qual eu quero abrir para o
> mundo na porta 8000
> No Meu dlink, criei um nat. o qual é chamado de virtual servers para a
> porta 8000  redirecionando para a minha maquina local:  192.168.2.3;
> localmente eu consigo acessar este serviço do apache mas de fora; através
> do meu ip publico eu não consigo faze-lo.
> Alguém pode me ajudar?
>
> Imagem do roteamento do dlink:
> [image: Imagem inline 1]
>
>
> Seque abaixo dois testes pelo tcpdump:
> Teste quando eu tento acessar meu site de fora:
>
> 23:34:48.609549 IP 192.168.2.3.49942 > 200.0.0.33.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 2751701843, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 41221756 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:34:48.609817 IP 192.168.2.3.49944 > 200.0.0.33.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 1467260955, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 41221756 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:34:48.610343 IP 200.0.0.33.8000 > 192.168.2.3.49942: Flags [R.], seq 0,
> ack 2751701844, win 0, length 0
> 23:34:48.610813 IP 200.0.0.33.8000 > 192.168.2.3.49944: Flags [R.], seq 0,
> ack 1467260956, win 0, length 0
> 23:34:48.611736 IP 192.168.2.3.49946 > 200.0.0.33.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 1524912962, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 41221757 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:34:48.612342 IP 200.0.0.33.8000 > 192.168.2.3.49946: Flags [R.], seq 0,
> ack 1524912963, win 0, length 0
>
>
> Teste quando eu tento acessar meu site de dentro:
>
> 23:35:08.184979 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 1990060727, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.184995 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51478: Flags [S.], seq
> 2165109194, ack 1990060728, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val
> 41226650 ecr 41226650,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185007 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.], ack 1,
> win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650], length 0
> 23:35:08.185167 IP 192.168.2.3.51480 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 1731966955, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185173 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51480: Flags [S.], seq
> 2427509765, ack 1731966956, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val
> 41226650 ecr 41226650,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185182 IP 192.168.2.3.51480 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.], ack 1,
> win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650], length 0
> 23:35:08.185247 IP 192.168.2.3.51482 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 3026361274, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185253 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51482: Flags [S.], seq
> 2017530365, ack 3026361275, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val
> 41226650 ecr 41226650,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185259 IP 192.168.2.3.51482 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.], ack 1,
> win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650], length 0
> 23:35:08.188761 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [P.], seq
> 1:488, ack 1, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr 41226650],
> length 487
> 23:35:08.188781 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51478: Flags [.], ack
> 488, win 350, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr 41226651], length 0
> 23:35:08.189373 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51478: Flags [P.], seq
> 1:3526, ack 488, win 350, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr 41226651],
> length 3525
> 23:35:08.190037 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.], ack
> 3526, win 1365, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr 41226651], length 0
>
>
> --
> Atenciosamente,
> Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
> São Gonçalo, RJ - Brasil
>
>
>


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Can I use more than one nic?

2017-02-01 Thread Dennis Wicks

I find myself with several unused NICs (network interface 
cards) and some empty ports on my switches.


Would it be beneficial to have more than one network 
connection on a system?


If so, what would I do with it, and how would I set it up? 
Pointers to tutorials and how-to's would be nice!


Many TIA!
Dennis

Nginx et configuration "return"

2017-02-01 Thread contact


  
  
Bonsoir
dans l'objectif de voir toutes les requêtes http sur le serveur
  nginx renvoyé sur la même adresse j'ai tenté ceci 

server {
   listen 80;
  server_name _;
  return 301 $scheme://expositions;
  }

Ce qui devrait fonctionner cependant avec le navigateur de mon
téléphone j'ai une erreur de ce type :
en demandant l'adresse http://expositions

ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS

Ce test  curl -I http://localhost
donne 

Location: http://expositions



La suppression de la ligne return supprime le problème. Normal. 

La solution ne serait elle pas de mettre en place un serveur DNS ?

Merci par avance


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Re: fallo con apt

2017-02-01 Thread Calabaza

El día 13 de enero de 2017, 9:32, Antonio Trujillo Carmona
 escribió:
> No consigo reparar este fallo:
>
> # apt update
> Ign:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing InRelease
> Err:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing Release
>   403  Forbidden
> Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho
> E: El repositorio «http://ftp.debian.org/debian testing Release» no
> tiene un fichero de Publicación.
> N: No se puede actualizar de un repositorio como este de forma segura y
> por tanto está deshabilitado por omisión.
> N: Vea la página de manual apt-secure(8) para los detalles sobre la
> creación de repositorios y la configuración de usuarios.

> He probado muchas cosas, como desinstalar , purgar y reinstalar el apt
> (el dpkg si funciona, por lo que puedo bajarme paquetes con otro
> ordenador e instalarlos), cambiar de repositorios, probar con ftp en
> lugar de http y alguna cosa mas que he visto en google.

> ¿alguna idea?

Lo que indica el error es que está mal formada la dirección
indicada en tu sources.list,
(específicamente está demás la palabra 'Release' )
debería ser algo así:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

Más información en:

[0] https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list

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Re: Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore


On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, David Griffith wrote:

I followed those instruction and got the same results. I installed Wheezy on 
a spare machine.  There I was able to create a writable flash drive installer 
that installs Jessie.


Following up... The effect is exactly like what would happen if you delete 
initrd.gz from the thumb drive.


[0.801766] Hardware name: QEMU Standard PC (i440FX + PIIX, 1996), BIOS 
1.7.5-20140531_083030-gandalf 04/01/2014
[0.801930]   81514c11 817054c8 
8800070b7ea0
[0.802072]  8151195e 8810 8800070b7eb0 
8800070b7e50
[0.802166]  8800070b7ea0 8800070b7eb8 0012 
0001
[0.802282] Call Trace:
[0.802572]  [] ? dump_stack+0x5d/0x78
[0.802654]  [] ? panic+0xc8/0x206
[0.802734]  [] ? mount_block_root+0x2a9/0x2b8
[0.802788]  [] ? SyS_mknod+0x185/0x210
[0.802841]  [] ? prepare_namespace+0x133/0x169
[0.802893]  [] ? kernel_init_freeable+0x1d7/0x1e1
[0.802945]  [] ? initcall_blacklist+0xb2/0xb2
[0.802996]  [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
[0.803046]  [] ? kernel_init+0xa/0xf0
[0.803096]  [] ? ret_from_fork+0x58/0x90
[0.803146]  [] ? rest_init+0x80/0x80
[0.803506] Kernel Offset: 0x0 from 0x8100 (relocation range: 
0x8000-0x9fff)
[0.803738] ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root 
fs on unknown-block(0,0)

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Re: Duvida Redes + Apache linux

2017-02-01 Thread Lucas Castro

pode passar mais detalhes?

de onde está tentando acessar o seu servidor apache, é da mesma rede?

o ip 200.0.0.33 é seu endereço externo? 

o ip 192.168.2.3 é onde roda o apache?


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Em 31-01-2017 22:46, Rodrigo Cunha escreveu:
> Prezados,
> na minha rede tenho um modem o qual eu roteio para servir de gateway
> para a minha rede;
> na minha maquina local eu tenho um apache o qual eu quero abrir para o
> mundo na porta 8000
> No Meu dlink, criei um nat. o qual é chamado de virtual servers para a
> porta 8000  redirecionando para a minha maquina local:  192.168.2.3;
> localmente eu consigo acessar este serviço do apache mas de fora;
> através do meu ip publico eu não consigo faze-lo.
> Alguém pode me ajudar?
>
> Imagem do roteamento do dlink:
> Imagem inline 1
>
>
> Seque abaixo dois testes pelo tcpdump:
> Teste quando eu tento acessar meu site de fora:
>
> 23:34:48.609549 IP 192.168.2.3.49942 > 200.0.0.33.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 2751701843, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 41221756 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:34:48.609817 IP 192.168.2.3.49944 > 200.0.0.33.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 1467260955, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 41221756 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:34:48.610343 IP 200.0.0.33.8000 > 192.168.2.3.49942: Flags [R.],
> seq 0, ack 2751701844, win 0, length 0
> 23:34:48.610813 IP 200.0.0.33.8000 > 192.168.2.3.49944: Flags [R.],
> seq 0, ack 1467260956, win 0, length 0
> 23:34:48.611736 IP 192.168.2.3.49946 > 200.0.0.33.8000: Flags [S], seq
> 1524912962, win 29200, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 41221757 ecr
> 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:34:48.612342 IP 200.0.0.33.8000 > 192.168.2.3.49946: Flags [R.],
> seq 0, ack 1524912963, win 0, length 0
>
>
> Teste quando eu tento acessar meu site de dentro:
>
> 23:35:08.184979 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [S],
> seq 1990060727, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650
> ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.184995 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51478: Flags [S.],
> seq 2165109194, ack 1990060728, win 43690, options [mss
> 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185007 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.],
> ack 1, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650], length 0
> 23:35:08.185167 IP 192.168.2.3.51480 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [S],
> seq 1731966955, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650
> ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185173 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51480: Flags [S.],
> seq 2427509765, ack 1731966956, win 43690, options [mss
> 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185182 IP 192.168.2.3.51480 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.],
> ack 1, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650], length 0
> 23:35:08.185247 IP 192.168.2.3.51482 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [S],
> seq 3026361274, win 43690, options [mss 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650
> ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185253 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51482: Flags [S.],
> seq 2017530365, ack 3026361275, win 43690, options [mss
> 65495,sackOK,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650,nop,wscale 7], length 0
> 23:35:08.185259 IP 192.168.2.3.51482 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.],
> ack 1, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226650 ecr 41226650], length 0
> 23:35:08.188761 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [P.],
> seq 1:488, ack 1, win 342, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr
> 41226650], length 487
> 23:35:08.188781 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51478: Flags [.],
> ack 488, win 350, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr 41226651], length 0
> 23:35:08.189373 IP 192.168.2.3.8000 > 192.168.2.3.51478: Flags [P.],
> seq 1:3526, ack 488, win 350, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr
> 41226651], length 3525
> 23:35:08.190037 IP 192.168.2.3.51478 > 192.168.2.3.8000: Flags [.],
> ack 3526, win 1365, options [nop,nop,TS val 41226651 ecr 41226651],
> length 0
>
>
> -- 
> Atenciosamente,
> Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
> São Gonçalo, RJ - Brasil
>



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Re: Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore


On Wed, 1 Feb 2017, solitone wrote:


Why don't you  follow  what explained here:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en

It's a simple two command procedure:

# cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
# sync


I don't follow it because I want to be able to include a preseed file and 
assorted non-free firmware packages.  I also want to include assorted 
other things that I like to put on a fresh machine.


As specified, this should work fine for most users. The other options 
are more complex, mainly for people with specialised needs.


Please notice that the image must be written to the whole-disk device 
and not a partition, e.g. /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1. This is also 
pointed out in the liked web page.


I followed those instruction and got the same results. I installed Wheezy 
on a spare machine.  There I was able to create a writable flash drive 
installer that installs Jessie.



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Re: "No space left on device" error, but df shows plenty of space

2017-02-01 Thread Kynn Jones

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Andy Smith  wrote:

> Hi Kynn,
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0500, Kynn Jones wrote:
> > After the machine rebooted, I was able to run `dpkg-reconfigure ntp`
> > without error.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I'll never know what the problem was.
>
> Do you use btrfs?
>

Not that I'm aware of.  (FWIW, if I run `mount | grep -i btrfs` (as root),
I get no output.)

What does "df -i" report now, after your reboot when things are
> working?
>

# df -i
Filesystem   Inodes   IUsedIFree IUse% Mounted on
/dev/sda5  24264704 1464023 228006817% /
udev4115384 445  41149391% /dev
tmpfs   4117499 735  41167641% /run
tmpfs   4117499  14  41174851% /dev/shm
tmpfs   4117499   5  41174941% /run/lock
tmpfs   4117499  13  41174861% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs   4117499  10  41174891% /run/user/1000

Unfortunately, I don't have the output of `df -i` before I rebooted.

Best,

kj

Re: CUPS in stretch does NOT WORK - Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 14:13:00 +, Roba wrote:

> reaching CUPS, as I should be able to, is the problem, not printing
> (that is a personal problem).

It gives you a way of setting up the printer without the web interface.

> Again, your help (Brian) is appreciated but it seems as the problem and
> the reason I am bringing it up here is not just to solve my own printer
> problem, as this I brought into myself last year by buying a cheap
> printer with no linux support.
> 
> Let's say I buy another printer with linux drivers available, would CUPS
> be reachable.  To sum it up, there are others out there with Debian
> upgrade to testing that experienced the same and although they pin point
> the problem to /etc/hosts PARANOIA I have not been able to do the same
> as I can not find the correct syntax for making exceptions.

/etc/hosts has nothing to do with /etc/hosts.allow (which was mentioned
earlier).

> LYNX did not work, same unreachable response (wow it is still alive?)
> I will not try to rename ~/.mozilla as I already said that I created a
> new user and started ff from scratch new - no-plugins  No difference.
> Running browser as root did not reach.  I am suspecting a more serious
> problem than it appears.
> 
> Here is another output if that helps:
> $ ping 127.0.0.1
> PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.015 ms
> $ ping 127.0.0.1:631
> ping: 127.0.0.1:631: Name or service not known

The last command will fail for 100% of users.

Please post the outputs of

  systemctl status cups

and

  netstat -tulpan

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Re: Impossible to install debian-8.7.1-i386-netinst.iso

2017-02-01 Thread Pierre Couderc

On 02/01/2017 11:00 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 07:56:32AM +0100, Pierre Couderc wrote:

On 02/01/2017 02:28 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:20:29 +0100 Pierre Couderc
wrote:

[...]

Thank you Patrick, but it is not a hardware problem.

Try it anyway. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.

The reason I suggested it was years ago I had the same problem -- old
computer, modern USB keyboard [...]

Well, this is not my problem, as the USB keyboard works for Windows
AND in the BIOS !
Anyway, you are right, I shall try that (if I can find an old PS2
keyboard !) in case it solves the problem without further searching
: this computer is a gift to an non profit association.
But, I do not like to not understand !

Again: nobody is suggesting it's a hardware problem. Just that we
suspect that you *can* convince your BIOS to "simulate" a traditional
keyboard, just for GRUB. Once the full linux is up and running,
USB is not that much of a problem.

So the questions there ("BIOS?", "PS/2 interface?") are not because
people here don't know what they are doing, but rather to get a feeling
on what kind of machine we have.

Machines having USB *and* PS/2 keyboard interface almost surely have
a way to set "legacy peripherals" in BIOS (this was the transition
period) *except* the very first ones. But if the BIOS itself works
with USB, then... nearly sure.

But if you want to know, here are some links for you:

https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226621
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/60177
http://askubuntu.com/questions/423036/grub-not-responding-to-keyboard
http://askubuntu.com/questions/59372/grub-loader-and-usb-keyboard
https://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub@gnu.org/msg05653.html

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/usb-keyboard-not-working-no-bios-no-grub-menu-selection-4175518913/

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub-and-usb-keyboards-432135-print/
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2269776

Enjoy :-)

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I am obliged to stop the search to not spend my life on this problem...
I did use the workaround given by Patrick : I did success finding an old
PS2 keyboard (it is not so easy in a small town...) and now I can install...
I think that the legacy option may be a solution, but now I do not
success to enter the BIOS again...
Anyway, I do not understand why the BIOS is able to work with this USB
keyboard and the iso debian install disk is not...

But, I can live without understanding.

Thank you all, now I can install...
PC

Re: Debian natively on Android device

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> deloptes  writes:
> 
> > Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all.
> >> 
> >> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and I
> >> visited:
> >> 
> >>  https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile

[...]

> > There is one device running on native (or almost native debian). The device
> > is called Nokia N9. 

[...]

> > Honestly I admire people that have time to waste!
> 
> 
> Why do you say `waste of time'?  I won't say you're wrong, just see what you
> mean...

Perhaps he thinks he has some claims on your time. From his perspective
you are wasting time he has acquired some rights to. Or something ;-P

Yes, deloptes: I know (or I assume strongly) this ain't so -- thus my
tongue-in-cheek. I still couldn't resist: whenever I see someone telling
someone else "you're wasting your time" in such absolute terms, I cringe,
while some baby unicorn dies in some rainbow universe.

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Re: aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian

2017-02-01 Thread Felix Perez

El día 1 de febrero de 2017, 10:24, Marcelo Giordano
 escribió:
> Hola amigos.
>
> Quiero cambiar algunas aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian, en especial
> quiero cambiar el lector de pdf predeterminado.
>

Si es solo esa aplicación botón derecho en el archivo pdf, y ahí
cambiar aplicación por defecto.

Saludos.


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Re: Debian natively on Android device

deloptes  writes:

> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I'm interested in the problem of running Debian on an Android device and I
>> visited:
>> 
>>  https://wiki.debian.org/Mobile
>> 
>> .  I'm trying to follow the tutorial:
>> 
>>  http://whiteboard.ping.se/Android/Debian
>> 
>> , but it seems to be quite hard.  I'm stuck where the tutorial says:
>> 
>>  # mkbootimg --base 0x0020 --kernel zImage --ramdisk initramfs.cpio.gz
>>  # -o my-boot.img
>> 
>> , as I don't know where the file zImage is on my Android device nor the
>> base
>> address (above 0x0020).  I got some help from the debian-mobile
>> mailing list but it was not such that I managed to solve my problem.
>> 
>> I think it's important to remark that the above tutorial, as far as I
>> understand, is not about running Debian within the costraints or at the
>> top of
>> Android system, as many other kind of solutions do, but instead natively. 
>> It compiles the Android kernel and replace - it seems - the original with
>> the modified one.
>> 
>> Anyone out there who's interested as well in the matter and has already
>> experienced it?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Rodolfo
>
> There is one device running on native (or almost native debian). The device
> is called Nokia N9. 
> "MeeGo was a Linux distribution hosted by the Linux Foundation, using source
> code from the operating systems Moblin (produced by Intel) and Maemo
> (produced by Nokia)." [1]
> Unfortunately discontinued. 
> The problem with your undertaking is (woud be) support for hardware aka
> drivers. You can look at jolla [2], sailfish [3].
>
> Honestly I admire people that have time to waste!


Why do you say `waste of time'?  I won't say you're wrong, just see what you
mean...

Rodolfo

Re: aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian

2017-02-01 Thread fernando sainz

El día 1 de febrero de 2017, 15:35, fernando sainz
 escribió:
> El día 1 de febrero de 2017, 14:33, Oscar Gunsett  
> escribió:
>> Que entorno de escritorio estas utilizando ? KDE , Gnome ?
>>
>>
>> El 1 feb. 2017 10:24, "Marcelo Giordano" 
>> escribió:
>>>
>>> Hola amigos.
>>>
>>> Quiero cambiar algunas aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian, en especial
>>> quiero cambiar el lector de pdf predeterminado.
>>>
>>> Con que aplicación lo puedo configurar?
>>>
>>> Muchas gracias
>>>
>>
>
> Normalmente los escritorios tienen opciones para cambiar esto, pero si
> no usas escritorio (como es mi caso)  o no tiene la opción mira: man
> update-alternatives
>
> Debian mantiene en /etc/alternatives links simbólicos a los programas
> por defecto y la forma de cambiarlos es usando update-alternatives.
>
> S2.


Perdonad por haberos respondido también a vosotros, se despista uno de
vez en cuando con el gmail...

Una cosa, java tiene su propio update-alternatives:
/usr/sbin/update-java-alternatives

S2.

Re: aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian

2017-02-01 Thread fernando sainz

El día 1 de febrero de 2017, 14:33, Oscar Gunsett  escribió:
> Que entorno de escritorio estas utilizando ? KDE , Gnome ?
>
>
> El 1 feb. 2017 10:24, "Marcelo Giordano" 
> escribió:
>>
>> Hola amigos.
>>
>> Quiero cambiar algunas aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian, en especial
>> quiero cambiar el lector de pdf predeterminado.
>>
>> Con que aplicación lo puedo configurar?
>>
>> Muchas gracias
>>
>

Normalmente los escritorios tienen opciones para cambiar esto, pero si
no usas escritorio (como es mi caso)  o no tiene la opción mira: man
update-alternatives

Debian mantiene en /etc/alternatives links simbólicos a los programas
por defecto y la forma de cambiarlos es usando update-alternatives.

S2.

Re: CUPS in stretch does NOT WORK - Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

reaching CUPS, as I should be able to, is the problem, not printing
(that is a personal problem).

Again, your help (Brian) is appreciated but it seems as the problem and
the reason I am bringing it up here is not just to solve my own printer
problem, as this I brought into myself last year by buying a cheap
printer with no linux support.

Let's say I buy another printer with linux drivers available, would CUPS
be reachable.  To sum it up, there are others out there with Debian
upgrade to testing that experienced the same and although they pin point
the problem to /etc/hosts PARANOIA I have not been able to do the same
as I can not find the correct syntax for making exceptions.

LYNX did not work, same unreachable response (wow it is still alive?)
I will not try to rename ~/.mozilla as I already said that I created a
new user and started ff from scratch new - no-plugins  No difference.
Running browser as root did not reach.  I am suspecting a more serious
problem than it appears.

Here is another output if that helps:
$ ping 127.0.0.1
PING 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.015 ms
$ ping 127.0.0.1:631
ping: 127.0.0.1:631: Name or service not known

ftp or telnet was not responsive either

I also run LXDE, going to X or openbox had the same exact results.

Brian:
> On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 01:18:40 +0100, r...@openmailbox.org wrote:
> 
>>> Device: uri = usb://RICOH/SP%20112SU%20DDST?serial=X004MB30122=1
>>>class = direct
>>>info = RICOH SP 112SU DDST
>>>make-and-model = RICOH SP 112SU DDST
>>>device-id = MFG:RICOH ;CMD:GDI;MDL:SP 112SU DDST;CLS:PRINTER;
>>>location =
> 
> You appear to have a browser problem rather than a printing problem.
> I believe the advice with Firefox is to move ~/.mozilla out of the
> way and restart it. Lynx would be good enough for what you want to
> do. Try that to access localhost:631.
> 
> Alternatively, put your PPD in /usr/share/ppd/custom and use
> 
> lpadmin -p ... -v usb://RICOH/... -E -m /usr/share/ppd/custom/
>

Re: aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian

2017-02-01 Thread Oscar Gunsett

Que entorno de escritorio estas utilizando ? KDE , Gnome ?


El 1 feb. 2017 10:24, "Marcelo Giordano" 
escribió:

> Hola amigos.
>
> Quiero cambiar algunas aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian, en especial
> quiero cambiar el lector de pdf predeterminado.
>
> Con que aplicación lo puedo configurar?
>
> Muchas gracias
>
>

Re: What file system to use?

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On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 12:29:03PM +, Andy Smith wrote:
> Hi Dennis,
> 
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 02:23:13AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> > I have several ext? and a few with Reiserfs. Is there a better choice
> > than Reiser now?

Seconded the general sentiment around here. *If* you're posing that
question in such general terms, then the answer is almost certainly
ext4. It is a very good performer beyond the multi-TB range, thoroughly
tested, rock solid.

If you have needs so special you'd notice any difference towards
ext4, you'd know :-)

I slightly disagree on LVM: use it if you know you need it (I *do*
use it, but I know I need it :) -- just ask here.

> Other than that you're probably going to have to copy it across.

That sounds like a terrible thing, but actually isn't, because you
will have a backup before doing something so dangerous, won't you?

Unless we are talking about that huge 400TB disk array which is
so big you can't afford making a backup. But then, perhaps, putting
*one* file system on that might be the wrong approach :)

I'd say ext4. Whether on top of LVM or not -- just pick the more
convincing arguments or try to poke some discussion around here :)

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aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian

2017-02-01 Thread Marcelo Giordano


Hola amigos.

Quiero cambiar algunas aplicaciones predeterminadas en debian, en 
especial quiero cambiar el lector de pdf predeterminado.


Con que aplicación lo puedo configurar?

Muchas gracias

Re: What file system to use?

2017-02-01 Thread Andy Smith

Hi Dennis,

On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 02:23:13AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> I have several ext? and a few with Reiserfs. Is there a better choice
> than Reiser now?

What are your requirements or typical usage?

> Also, is there any way to convert from my existing
> fs to the recommended one?

I do not think there are any reiserfs conversion programs to anything
else, but the different versions of ext can all be converted to
ext4.

Other than that you're probably going to have to copy it across.

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: "No space left on device" error, but df shows plenty of space

2017-02-01 Thread Andy Smith

Hi Kynn,

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 06:42:39PM -0500, Kynn Jones wrote:
> After the machine rebooted, I was able to run `dpkg-reconfigure ntp`
> without error.
> 
> Unfortunately, I'll never know what the problem was.

Do you use btrfs?

What does "df -i" report now, after your reboot when things are
working?

Cheers,
Andy

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Re: Debian Sid not booting - systemd failed to register manager vtable: file exists

2017-02-01 Thread j

Hi.So the whole problem was related to sssd packages. When I unistalled sssd packeges the issue disappeared. Still not sure what problem sssd caused exactly.- JiriOn 1 Feb. 2017 8:59 pm, j...@ganomi.com wrote:Hi.I rhink this issue is related to avahi not starting and therefore having impact on network manager.I wish systemd can process these things faster. Its killing me to wait until the system boots up just because few servises failed.I will keep digging into why avahi fails.- JiriOn 1 Feb. 2017 8:21 pm, j@ganomi.com wrote:Hi.I seem to have issues with systemd which is failing to boot a lot of services after last upgrade. Mainly I can see logind service failing.Getting to console takes ages.I also removed almost all packages and used tasksel to reinstall them, but that didnt help either.Any thoughs?

Re: Fwd: troubles running a printer on Mint17.3 "Rosa"

On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 09:35:20 +0100, albcares wrote:

> thanks for Ur fast answer. I'll try to do my best to explain.
> I correctly see Optra labelled as "generic" in the printer list. The firs
> print I get is generally good. But if I send another one, it jumps out as
> wide as if it saw only the first quarter up the sheet: wide fonts, wider
> grafics; the white field itself is printed with artefacts like clouds of
> black spots. Each time I want to print beyond one document I must turn off
> - turn on the printer. I supposed that any process remained hanging
> somewhere but I couldn't find out.

Did printing work before you "re-adjusted" CUPS? Try using the USB
and parallel connections to print. Is there a significant difference?

Get yourself a few small PostScript files from different sources.
pdf2ps and Firefox are two ways to produce one. Plug the printer
into a USB port and check the device in /dev/usb (lp0, lp1?). Send a
file directly to the printer with

 cat  > /dev/usb/lp0

How does that go?

-- 
Brian.

Re: Debian Sid not booting - systemd failed to register manager vtable: file exists

2017-02-01 Thread j

Hi.I rhink this issue is related to avahi not starting and therefore having impact on network manager.I wish systemd can process these things faster. Its killing me to wait until the system boots up just because few servises failed.I will keep digging into why avahi fails.- JiriOn 1 Feb. 2017 8:21 pm, j...@ganomi.com wrote:Hi.I seem to have issues with systemd which is failing to boot a lot of services after last upgrade. Mainly I can see logind service failing.Getting to console takes ages.I also removed almost all packages and used tasksel to reinstall them, but that didnt help either.Any thoughs?

Re: What file system to use?

2017-02-01 Thread Jochen Spieker

Dennis Wicks:
>
> I am going to install some more disks and I was wondering which file system
> to use.

Use ext4 unless you have special requirements. I would always use LVM as
well because it makes partitioning a lot easier.

> I have several ext? and a few with Reiserfs. Is there a better choice than
> Reiser now?

Probably every filesystem which is merged into the mainline kernel. I
would (still) stay away from BTRFS with jessie.

> Also, is there any way to convert from my existing fs to the
> recommended one?

Sorry, don't know that. You can always copy/rsync, of course.

J.
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Re: Impossible to install debian-8.7.1-i386-netinst.iso

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On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 07:56:32AM +0100, Pierre Couderc wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/01/2017 02:28 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 18:20:29 +0100 Pierre Couderc 
> >wrote:

[...]

> >>Thank you Patrick, but it is not a hardware problem.
> >Try it anyway.  If it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
> >
> >The reason I suggested it was years ago I had the same problem -- old
> >computer, modern USB keyboard [...]

> Well, this is not my problem, as the USB keyboard works for Windows
> AND in the BIOS !
> Anyway, you are right, I shall try that (if I can find an old PS2
> keyboard !) in case it solves the problem without further searching
> : this computer is a gift to an non profit association.
> But, I do not like to not understand !

Again: nobody is suggesting it's a hardware problem. Just that we
suspect that you *can* convince your BIOS to "simulate" a traditional
keyboard, just for GRUB. Once the full linux is up and running,
USB is not that much of a problem.

So the questions there ("BIOS?", "PS/2 interface?") are not because
people here don't know what they are doing, but rather to get a feeling
on what kind of machine we have.

Machines having USB *and* PS/2 keyboard interface almost surely have
a way to set "legacy peripherals" in BIOS (this was the transition
period) *except* the very first ones. But if the BIOS itself works
with USB, then... nearly sure.

But if you want to know, here are some links for you:

 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2226621
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/60177
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/423036/grub-not-responding-to-keyboard
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/59372/grub-loader-and-usb-keyboard
 https://www.mail-archive.com/bug-grub@gnu.org/msg05653.html

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/usb-keyboard-not-working-no-bios-no-grub-menu-selection-4175518913/

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/grub-and-usb-keyboards-432135-print/
 https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2269776

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Re: CUPS in stretch does NOT WORK - Ricoh printer SP112 SP112-su

On Wed 01 Feb 2017 at 01:18:40 +0100, r...@openmailbox.org wrote:

> >Device: uri = usb://RICOH/SP%20112SU%20DDST?serial=X004MB30122=1
> >class = direct
> >info = RICOH SP 112SU DDST
> >make-and-model = RICOH SP 112SU DDST
> >device-id = MFG:RICOH ;CMD:GDI;MDL:SP 112SU DDST;CLS:PRINTER;
> >location =
> >
> Thanks for your help by the way, here is some other weird occurrence.
> I run sudo firefox to see if it was a privilege problem and get this:
> The screen came up but all links from the main page would run to a denial
> page.
> The screen was from a cached page from way back when it was 1.7.5, while the
> current installed cups is 2.2.1-6 ..
>
> When you delete the cached page same thing happens, deny deny deny.
> Should I get something like konqueror or opera and try it?  I hate
> downloading stuff and deleting it as I had run into trouble before 

You appear to have a browser problem rather than a printing problem.
I believe the advice with Firefox is to move ~/.mozilla out of the
way and restart it. Lynx would be good enough for what you want to
do. Try that to access localhost:631.

Alternatively, put your PPD in /usr/share/ppd/custom and use

lpadmin -p ... -v usb://RICOH/... -E -m /usr/share/ppd/custom/

-- 
Brian.

Re: Duvida Redes + Apache linux

2017-02-01 Thread Paulino Kenji Sato

Ola,
Só para conferir, o 192.168.2.3 esta acessando a Internet sem problemas?

Em conexões PPPoE (xDSL) um problema bastante comum e do tamanho do mss e
outros relacionados a ele.
Para contornar, e necessário instruir o kernel a fazer alguns ajustes nos
pacotes que saem.
iptables  -t mangle -I OUTPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN -j TCPMSS
--clamp-mss-to-pmtu -o eth0

no /etc/sysctl.conf
net.ipv4.tcp_wmem = 4096 16384 131072
net.ipv4.tcp_rmem = 4096 87380 174760

Um outro problemas que pode estar ocorrendo e um conflito com o ipv6.


2017-02-01 3:37 GMT-02:00 Rodrigo Cunha :

> Verifiquei no website ping.eu e a porta está aberta e quando faço o check
> ela me dá porta aberta e o tcpdump aponta entrada de dados para a porta no
> meu ip local.
>
>
> --
> Atenciosamente,
> Rodrigo da Silva Cunha
> São Gonçalo, RJ - Brasil
>
>


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Re: Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore

2017-02-01 Thread Thomas Schmitt

Hi,

as solitone stated, the most simple way is to make use of the isohybrid
preparations of the ISO image.


> https://hyper.to/blog/link/debian-installer-on-a-usb-key/

(I wonder how this setup knows that it should use the ISO as source of
higher operating system levels.)


> No filesystem could mount root, tried:
> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown - block 
> (0,0)
> I used to be able to make
> viable writable install thumbdrives for Debian 7 and 8.  What happened?

Are you sure that your USB stick is still ok ?
Can you mount the FAT filesystem in a running Linux system ?


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore

2017-02-01 Thread solitone

Why don't you  follow  what explained here:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en

It's a simple two command procedure:

# cp debian.iso /dev/sdX
# sync

As specified, this should work fine for most users. The other options are more 
complex, mainly for people with specialised needs.

Please notice that the image must be written to the whole-disk device and not 
a partition, e.g. /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1. This is also pointed out in the 
liked web page.

Re: Depot Squeeze

2017-02-01 Thread David Martin

merci,

Je snapshot, et j'upgrade en wheezy... c'est mieux au final.

Merci en tout cas


Le 1 février 2017 à 10:07, Thierry Dethegeek  a écrit :

> En cherchant comment rétrograder un paquet j'ai trouvé ça ce matin.
>
> Je n'ai pas encore essayé, mais ça pourrait vous aider.
>
> De ce que j'ai lu, il faut modifier /etc/apt/sources.list pour pointer sur
> ce dépôt. Voir la page d'accueil.
>
> http://snapshot.debian.org/
>
> On 01/02/2017 09:51, David Martin wrote:
>
> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai un problème au boulot, je ne peux pas passer en version Wheezy et
> j'ai make à installer sur une squeeze.
>
> Savez vous si il existe un dépot archive squeeze que je peux mettre dans
> mon source.list ?
>
>
>
> --
> david martin
>
>
>


-- 
david martin

Re: Depot Squeeze

2017-02-01 Thread Thierry Dethegeek

En cherchant comment rétrograder un paquet j'ai trouvé ça ce matin.

Je n'ai pas encore essayé, mais ça pourrait vous aider.

De ce que j'ai lu, il faut modifier /etc/apt/sources.list pour pointer
sur ce dépôt. Voir la page d'accueil.

http://snapshot.debian.org/

On 01/02/2017 09:51, David Martin wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai un problème au boulot, je ne peux pas passer en version Wheezy et
> j'ai make à installer sur une squeeze.
>
> Savez vous si il existe un dépot archive squeeze que je peux mettre
> dans mon source.list ?
>
>
>
> -- 
> david martin
>

Can't make writable USB thumbdrive installer anymore