Re: Wan/Lan problem

[Henning Follmann]

On March 30, 2017 8:27:54 PM EDT, Mike McClain  wrote:
>On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:25:52AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
>> On March 28, 2017 7:46:02 PM EDT, Mike McClain
> wrote:
>
>> >The situation is this:
>> >
>> > phoneeth0 eth1
>> >AT|   ||   ||   |---|   |
>> >AT modem/ Linux my Win2K
>> >router   box router   box
>> >
>> >
>> >#   /etc/hosts
>> >192.168.1.254ATTrouter
>> >#192.168.1.64outbound.att.netatt
>> >127.0.0.1   localhost
>> >192.168.1.2 playground  play
>> >192.168.1.3 south40 s40
>> >192.168.1.1 router
>> ># --- end hosts
>>
>> You put eth0 and eth1 into the same network segment.
>> That most likely is your problem
>> Either you bridge eth0 and eth1 or if you want your linux box as a
>firewall you pick a different ntwork for eth1
>>
>> --
>> Henning Follmann
>
>If I'm understanding you you're saying that ATT's router having an
>address of 192.168.1.254 on eth0 while the Linux box(play), Win2k(s40)
>and my router have addresses 192.168.1.1,2&3 on eth1 is the root of
>the problem. Since ATT's router's address is immutable I either need
>to reconfigure 2 computers and a router to a different net,
>192.168.2.0 or 10.0.0.0, for instance or learn to build bridges.
>
>Is my understanding correct?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike


Yes,
with your configuration both eth0 and eth1 are in 192.168.1.0/24. There is no 
way tobfigure out which to use.

However you have to provide more than just diferent subnets. The network behind 
the firewall now needs dns and most likely also dhcp.
You could install dnsmasq. It provides just this.

However based on your initial understanding of networking I wonder if something 
like pfsense makes more sense for you.


Another way to set this up would be a transparent firewall. In that case you 
bridge eth0 and eth1 without assigning an ip address at all. You might want to 
have athird network interface for maintenance tho.
Pfsense also privides that functionality.


-H

-- 
Henning Follmann

Re: Una de hostapd en debian 7...

[luisededios]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:11:47 -0400, JAP   
wrote:



El 29/03/17 a las 15:43, luisededios escribió:

La mía se reduce a un portal cautivo ZeroShell, el cual podía
engañarse mediante un script en python, el cual se iniciaba desde
/etc/rc.local.


Me interesa ese tema, recuerdas cómo lo hacías desde rc.local, alguna
línea?  :)


Bien.
Lo hice de dos maneras distintas.
Una, añadiendo el script de identificación en mi escritorio KDE, en  
"Arranque y apagado", "Autoarranque".

De esa manera, se iniciaba sólo si yo iniciaba la sesión en KDE.
La contra, es que cualquier problemita del escritorio, me quedaba sin  
red.

Por ello, pasá a adicionar la siguiente línea en /etc/rc.local

/usr/bin/python /opt/ZeroShell/zeroshell-autologin.py

Esto lo saqué de https://code.google.com/archive/p/zeroshell-autologin/


El script en cuestión, con alguna ínfima modificación mía, es el que  
sigue:


=
#!/usr/bin/python

# ZeroShell autologin

# load python library

from urllib import urlencode
from urllib2 import urlopen
from HTMLParser import HTMLParser
from time import sleep

# login conf

USERNAME = 'MiUsuario'
PASSWORD = 'MiClaveMuyDificil'
REALM = 'ElDominio' => El dominio de tu ISP
SERVER = '192.168.1.1' ==> El servidor ZeroShell

# default params

PROTOCOL = 'http'
PORT = '12080'
SCRIPT = 'zscp'
ZSCPRedirect = '_:::_'

URL = PROTOCOL + '://' + SERVER + ':' + PORT + '/cgi-bin/' + SCRIPT
RENEW_INTERVAL = 40

# class to parse Captive Portal HTML

class ZSParser(HTMLParser):
def __init__(self):
HTMLParser.__init__(self)
self.params = {}
		params = { 'U' : USERNAME , 'P' : PASSWORD , 'Realm' : REALM ,  
'Section' : 'CPAuth' , 'Action' : 'Authenticate' , 'ZSCPRedirect' :  
'_:::_' }

http_req = urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))
html_content = http_req.read()
self.feed(html_content)

def get_authkey(self):
			return self.params['Authenticator'] # after parse HTML return the  
authenticator string


def handle_starttag(self, tag, attrs):
		if tag == 'input' and attrs[0][1] == 'hidden': # parse only de html  
input and hidden tags

self.params[attrs[1][1]] = attrs[2][1]

parser = ZSParser() # instantiate the class
authkey = parser.get_authkey() # get authenticator string

# http_request 1 - Section = CPGW

params = { 'U' : USERNAME , 'P' : PASSWORD , 'Realm' : REALM ,  
'Authenticator' : authkey, 'Section' : 'CPGW' , 'Action' : 'Connect' ,  
'ZSCPRedirect' : '_:::_' }

urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))

# http_request 2 - Section = ClientCTRL

params = { 'U' : USERNAME , 'P' : PASSWORD , 'Realm' : REALM ,  
'Authenticator' : authkey, 'Section' : 'ClientCTRL' , 'Action' :  
'Connect' , 'ZSCPRedirect' : '_:::_' }

urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))


while True:
sleep(RENEW_INTERVAL) # wait a time in seconds to renew the connection
	params = { 'Authenticator' : authkey, 'Section' : 'CPGW' , 'Action' :  
'Renew' , 'ZSCPRedirect' : '_:::_' }

urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))

=


Problemas conocidos:

A veces, ante un "lag" del sistema, el equipo se desconectaba de la red  
por haber vencido la sesión. Eso, si usas un navegador común, es  
cuestión de reiniciarlo, pero acá me quedaba el script corriendo.

Por lo que, como root, debía matar a python y reiniciar el script.
El BOFH que me tocó, le puso un temporizador al portal, de manera que si  
se me caía la conexión, debía esperar 10 minutos para reintentar  
conectarlo.


# killall -s 9 python

# /etc/rc.local
ó
# /usr/bin/python /opt/ZeroShell/zeroshell-autologin.py &

JAP

Interesante la aplicación pero yo pensaba que los datos usuario y  
contraseña podían pasarse en /etc/network/interfaces  :)


--
Saludos,
Luis

Re: Wan/Lan problem

[Mike McClain]

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:25:52AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote:
> On March 28, 2017 7:46:02 PM EDT, Mike McClain  
> wrote:

> >The situation is this:
> >
> > phoneeth0 eth1
> >AT|   ||   ||   |---|   |
> >AT modem/ Linux my Win2K
> >router   box router   box
> >
> >
> >#   /etc/hosts
> >192.168.1.254ATTrouter
> >#192.168.1.64outbound.att.netatt
> >127.0.0.1   localhost
> >192.168.1.2 playground  play
> >192.168.1.3 south40 s40
> >192.168.1.1 router
> ># --- end hosts
>
> You put eth0 and eth1 into the same network segment.
> That most likely is your problem
> Either you bridge eth0 and eth1 or if you want your linux box as a firewall 
> you pick a different ntwork for eth1
>
> --
> Henning Follmann

If I'm understanding you you're saying that ATT's router having an
address of 192.168.1.254 on eth0 while the Linux box(play), Win2k(s40)
and my router have addresses 192.168.1.1,2&3 on eth1 is the root of
the problem. Since ATT's router's address is immutable I either need
to reconfigure 2 computers and a router to a different net,
192.168.2.0 or 10.0.0.0, for instance or learn to build bridges.

Is my understanding correct?

Thanks,
Mike
--
Goodness will be rewarded with goodness.
- Chinese proverb

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Catherine Gramze]

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 6:10 PM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> 
>> On Thursday 30 March 2017 21:22:57 Catherine Gramze wrote:
>> This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on
>> Tuesday, due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days,
>> rather than next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it
>> right, with "Thursday" meaning in two days, and "Thursday next" meaning
>> next week. (I may be imagining this difference in clarity, though.)
> 
> All the Brits I know say "next Thursday" with exactly the ambiguity mentioned.
> 
> Cue every Brit who disagrees, from among the very large number of Brits whom 
> I 
> do not know!!
> 
Cruel of you to disabuse me of my happy illusion of Brit linguistic 
superiority. Next, you'll be telling me it's spelled aluminium

Cathy

Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation

[Brian]

On Thu 30 Mar 2017 at 23:23:58 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

> On 30/03/17 18:28, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > The 8730 looks like a smart device but at 220+ GBP I'd want it working,
> > Now!
> 
> There's £50.00 cashback, I wouldn't willingly part with £220.00 either.
> 
> > Are you using the USB port or is the device on the network? Either way,
> > all that is needed for printing is printer-driver-hpcups, unless you are
> > wedded to having all that hplip provides. You should be able to purge
> > hplip and whatever python packages it pulled in and printing should
> > still work. Perhaps best, though, to ignore me and leave things as they
> > are if you are happy with this situation. You are printing after all.
> 
> I'm connected via Ethernet so all my computers can use the device. Call
> me old fashioned: I've been using Ethernet since the '80s and I trust
> the security of wires rather more than wireless.

A 63 character WPA key isn't, I believe, inherently less secure than a
wired connection.

> > Scanning? Set up the device wirelessly (it can be left connected by USB
> > for this, I think) and enable AirPrint/Bonjour from its EWS (embedded
> > web server):
> > 
> >  http://IP_of_the_8730
> > 
> > After that
> > 
> >  scanimage -L
> > 
> > should pick up the scanner. xsane should offer it as choice if you there
> > is more than one scanner on the network. Or it should just detect the
> > OfficeJet and display.
> 
> I thought that AirPrint/Bonjour was Apple related so I haven't
> investigated it to date. The printer has a nice facility of scanning to
> the front USB port, outputting PDF amongst other formats. It suits me
> for the time being.

Avahi plays the same role on Debian as Bonjour. The command above should
also work with ethernet.

-- 
Brian.

 
> Regards
> 
> Peter HB
> 

Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 30/03/17 18:28, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 30 Mar 2017 at 16:15:18 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> 
>> On 29/03/17 18:27, Brian wrote:
>>>
>>> The changelog at backports has
>>>
>>>  hplip (3.16.7+repack0-1) unstable; urgency=medium
>>>
>>>   * New upstream release
>>> - Support for new HP printers:
>>>   × Officejet Pro 8730
>>>
>> Thanks again, Brian. Once I fiddled with the missing Python component(s)
>> - by pure guesswork - I was able to print. Scanning is an issue for
>> another day as xsane produces a thin strip of over-printed rubbish. I'll
>> probably wait for Stretch before exploring further.
> 
> The 8730 looks like a smart device but at 220+ GBP I'd want it working,
> Now!

There's £50.00 cashback, I wouldn't willingly part with £220.00 either.

> Are you using the USB port or is the device on the network? Either way,
> all that is needed for printing is printer-driver-hpcups, unless you are
> wedded to having all that hplip provides. You should be able to purge
> hplip and whatever python packages it pulled in and printing should
> still work. Perhaps best, though, to ignore me and leave things as they
> are if you are happy with this situation. You are printing after all.

I'm connected via Ethernet so all my computers can use the device. Call
me old fashioned: I've been using Ethernet since the '80s and I trust
the security of wires rather more than wireless.

> Scanning? Set up the device wirelessly (it can be left connected by USB
> for this, I think) and enable AirPrint/Bonjour from its EWS (embedded
> web server):
> 
>  http://IP_of_the_8730
> 
> After that
> 
>  scanimage -L
> 
> should pick up the scanner. xsane should offer it as choice if you there
> is more than one scanner on the network. Or it should just detect the
> OfficeJet and display.

I thought that AirPrint/Bonjour was Apple related so I haven't
investigated it to date. The printer has a nice facility of scanning to
the front USB port, outputting PDF amongst other formats. It suits me
for the time being.

Regards

Peter HB



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Re: [OT] Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[kAt]

Daniel Bareiro:
> Next week I'll take the notebook to the supplier for the test with a new
> battery. They offered doing tests with a new battery for an entire day.
> I think I'm going to suggest them to use a liveCD as System Rescue CD or
> something like that, since the disk is encrypted. Although I'm not sure
> if they will feel comfortable using GNU/Linux (and I don't know if there
> is liveCD's with Windows).

There is the installation disk that would boot up, I haven't tried this
madness of installing windows on a thumbstick, I have managed to install
full systems on them.

If your hd needs to be encrypted I wouldn't trust it on anyone and walk
away from it.  Eventually if it is copied out it may get decrypted given
sufficient time and resources.  It is pretty simple to take a HD out and
a service dept. know how to deal with a laptop without a hd.
So don't hand them out your data if you don't care to share them.

> Kind regards,
> Daniel

Simple electrical tests, like voltage measured on contacts can tell you
whether the battery holds charge and whether the charge circuit goes on
or not.  In 90% of the time it is a failing battery.

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 30 March 2017 21:22:57 Catherine Gramze wrote:
> This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on
> Tuesday, due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days,
> rather than next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it
> right, with "Thursday" meaning in two days, and "Thursday next" meaning
> next week. (I may be imagining this difference in clarity, though.)

All the Brits I know say "next Thursday" with exactly the ambiguity mentioned.

Cue every Brit who disagrees, from among the very large number of Brits whom I 
do not know!!

Lisi

Re: Remove topic

[Tony Baldwin]

On 03/30/2017 05:21 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:42:58 -0400
Catherine Gramze  wrote:

Hello Catherine,


The Debian mailing lists are publicly available. Perhaps the Debian IRC
chat channels would give you the anonymity you want. I am sorry if this
disclosure of your name has harmed you in any way. You may not have
understood how mailing lists work.


The OP posts the same message here, and to other MLs, every few months.
They must surely know by now that message removal isn't an option.
Furthermore, their repeated requests for message removal do nothing to
enhance anonymity.  Quite the opposite, in fact.


I almost mentioned that in my response, that each new message seems to 
result in their name, once more, becoming publicly visible on the list.



tony

--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: Remove topic

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:42:58 -0400
Catherine Gramze  wrote:

Hello Catherine,

>The Debian mailing lists are publicly available. Perhaps the Debian IRC
>chat channels would give you the anonymity you want. I am sorry if this
>disclosure of your name has harmed you in any way. You may not have
>understood how mailing lists work. 

The OP posts the same message here, and to other MLs, every few months.
They must surely know by now that message removal isn't an option.
Furthermore, their repeated requests for message removal do nothing to
enhance anonymity.  Quite the opposite, in fact.

-- 
 Regards  _
 / )   "The blindingly obvious is
/ _)radnever immediately apparent"
Is she really going out with him?
New Rose - The Damned


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Re: Remove topic

[Tony Baldwin]

On 03/30/2017 04:16 PM, Lounis ILLOURMANE wrote:

Hello,
Can you please remove the topic on this
URL https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/06/msg02062.html
There's my first and family name, some people try to use this
informations to hurt me.
Please help me. Please do not make this message public.

Good regards
Lounis illourmane



But, Lounis, all messages to this list are publicly archived.

--
http://tonybaldwin.me
all tony, all the time

Re: Remove topic

[Catherine Gramze]

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 4:16 PM, Lounis ILLOURMANE  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> Can you please remove the topic on this URL 
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/06/msg02062.html
> There's my first and family name, some people try to use this informations to 
> hurt me. 
> Please help me. Please do not make this message public. 

The Debian mailing lists are publicly available. Perhaps the Debian IRC chat 
channels would give you the anonymity you want. I am sorry if this disclosure 
of your name has harmed you in any way. You may not have understood how mailing 
lists work. 

Cathy

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Catherine Gramze]

> On Mar 30, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Terence  wrote:
> 
> Lisi asks "And is London "up" or "down"from York?"
> 
> London is "up". "Up trains" were those travelling to London terminii, "Down 
> trains" departed from London terminii to other parts of the rail network.

I have run across people to whom "uptown" refers to the central area of only a 
very large city, and "downtown" is everyplace else - and vice versa.
> 
> On the other hand, if you "Take The 'A' Train" Sugar Hill is "up in Harlem".

Manhattan is a special well-defined case where going "up" or "down" refers to 
the street numbers. 109th St. is "up" from 54th St. The numbers go from the 
southwest tip of the island northeast, and they are all numbered streets. Very 
handy.
> 
> As they say in "Private Eye", I don't get out much..

This reminds me of the time a professor gave a coding assignment on Tuesday, 
due "next Thursday." To most of the class that meant in 2 days, rather than 
next week. Hilarity ensued. But I think the Brits have it right, with 
"Thursday" meaning in two days, and "Thursday next" meaning next week. (I may 
be imagining this difference in clarity, though.)

Cathy

Remove topic

[Lounis ILLOURMANE]

Hello,
Can you please remove the topic on this URL
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/06/msg02062.html
There's my first and family name, some people try to use this informations
to hurt me.
Please help me. Please do not make this message public.

Good regards
Lounis illourmane

Re: [OT] Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi, Joe an Tomás.

> Do you think the problem might be in the charger?  

 Yes, certainly. That's why I said it's difficult to know what's
 going on without either a known good battery or a known good
 charger. You'd better hope it's the battery, as that is easy to
 fix...  

>>> But in any case, whether the problem is in the charger or the
>>> battery, I suppose that to solve the issue I will have to change the
>>> part. I suppose if the problem is in the charger, the cost will be
>>> less compared to a battery.

>> Yes, but it is unlikely that a schematic diagram of the laptop
>> motherboard will be available. It shouldn't be too hard to locate the
>> parts used in charging, but if the main IC is faulty, it may not be
>> available in your part of the world [...]

> It's worth stressing on this point, since I've the suspicion that there
> is a misunderstanding on your part, Daniel: the charge controller isn't
> that external brick: that is probably just a more or less dumb power
> source. The charge controller is buried somewhere in your laptop (as
> Joe puts it, on the laptop's motherboard).

Yes, now that he talked about the schematic of the motherboard, I see
that he was referring to some internal component of the notebook. Thanks
for pointing this out, Tomás :-)

And about that:

> > Lots of contacts. It is possible that the battery electronics can
> > tell if it is correctly seated in the right model laptop, and will
> > not supply power if that is not the case. For your safety, of
> > course.

It could be a possibility...

Next week I'll take the notebook to the supplier for the test with a new
battery. They offered doing tests with a new battery for an entire day.
I think I'm going to suggest them to use a liveCD as System Rescue CD or
something like that, since the disk is encrypted. Although I'm not sure
if they will feel comfortable using GNU/Linux (and I don't know if there
is liveCD's with Windows).


Kind regards,
Daniel



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MiniDebConf Curitiba 2017 - um breve relato

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Olá,

Já está disponível no blog um relato sobre a MiniDebConf 2017.
http://softwarelivre.org/debianbrasil/blog/minidebconf-curitiba-2017-um-breve-relato

Assim como aconteceu na edição de 2016, a edição de 2017 foi novamente um 
sucesso :-)

Abraços,

-- 
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Curitiba - Brasil
Curador de Software Livre da Campus Party Brasil 2017 (CPBR10)
Membro da Comunidade Curitiba Livre
Fone: +55 (41) 99198-1897
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

Apoie a campanha pela igualdade de gênero #HeForShe (#ElesPorElas)  
http://www.heforshe.org/pt

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Terence]

Lisi asks "And is London "up" or "down"from York?"

London is "up". "Up trains" were those travelling to London terminii, "Down
trains" departed from London terminii to other parts of the rail network.

On the other hand, if you "Take The 'A' Train" Sugar Hill is "up in Harlem".

As they say in "Private Eye", I don't get out much...

Terence

On 30 March 2017 at 20:28, John Hasler  wrote:

> Eike Lantzsch writes:
> > the Dutch in New Netherland were called "Jan Kees".  New Netherland
> > became mostly New York and the locals became "Yankees". So somebody
> > from South Carolina may feel that he himself must not be considered to
> > be a "Yankee".  Whether the nickname for the Dutch was just friendly
> > banter or derogative, I don't know.
>
> It gets more complicated yet.  Look up the song "Yankee Doodle".
> --
> John Hasler
> jhas...@newsguy.com
> Elmwood, WI USA
>
>

Midori - Stretch amd64 freezing up - weird TB behavior

[kAt]

Debian stretch on amd64

Totally freezing up is a new experience with debian ever
The only thing I can associate it with is my recent trial with Midori
and somehow its association with html files to auto start.
It is the most recent thing running when it happens.
Has anyone had a similar exprerience with it?
Everything else is pretty much on all day and although rarely I may have
run into a situation of too much cpu or RAM being used, things don't
freeze, just slow down.  I am usually able to start the task manager up
and shut something down.
With this recent phenomenon it is a freeze with 0 response, except for
the mouse pointer still moving around precisely in a picture like
screen.  I can't say for sure I can reproduce it with midori, maybe it
is something specific that makes it freeze up.  I'm goint to uninstall
it to see if it happens again.

Also thunderbird doesn't seem to be as functional as icedove used to be.
 When i-d started as soon as an account was clicked that had a saved
password it would ask for the master-password.  TB seems to just blank
out, neither checks for mail that it is asked to nor does it ask for the
masterpassword.  On the second try it seems to wake up and its job.
Although as it is running all day I doubt it is the freeze-up culprit.

djbwares version 5

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

djbwares is now at version 5.

* http://jdebp.eu./Softwares/djbwares/
* http://jdebp.info./Softwares/djbwares/

This contains some long-overdue changes: ip6.int has been replaced by ip6.arpa
in tinydns-data and dnscache, and rblsmtpd no longer falls back to using an RBL
that has been defunct for many years.

It also contains some additions: some UCSPI-SSL capability, a new gopherd UCSPI
server to go alongside httpd and ftpd in publicfile, and most of the previously
missing manual pages (including a few for commands which had no manuals in the
original toolsets).

There are no longer any placeholder manual pages for the "man" command.  There
are still a few manual pages that are only present in roff form, though.

You can see gopherd in action:

* gopher://jdebp.info./1/Repository/ 

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[John Hasler]

Eike Lantzsch writes:
> the Dutch in New Netherland were called "Jan Kees".  New Netherland
> became mostly New York and the locals became "Yankees". So somebody
> from South Carolina may feel that he himself must not be considered to
> be a "Yankee".  Whether the nickname for the Dutch was just friendly
> banter or derogative, I don't know.

It gets more complicated yet.  Look up the song "Yankee Doodle".
-- 
John Hasler 
jhas...@newsguy.com
Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Richard Owlett]

On 03/30/2017 01:15 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Thursday 30 March 2017 18:43:00 kAt wrote:

In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin


One of the geographical meanings of "down" in English English is "South" .

"South (as south is at the bottom of typical maps).
I went down to Miami for a conference."
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/down

If one takes Yankee to mean New Yorker, then surely North Carolina is down??

We have country bumpkins in the Home Counties.  And is London "up" or "down"
from York?

Lisi


"Yankee" is one of those words that means what the speaker wishes it to 
mean. That meaning is strongly influenced by where the speaker was born.


There's an old joke along the lines of:
  If from Florida, it's someone from north of the Mason-Dixon line.
  If from north of Mason-Dixon line, it's someone from New England.
  If from New England, it's someone from Maine.
  If from Maine, it's someone who puts ketchup on his eggs.

Re: Erreur lors de l'écriture de test.txt : Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique

[Eric Degenetais]

Je me réponds à moi-même: grosse confusion, la taille des blocs n'a rien à
faire là. Par contre, il me semble qu'on peut jouer à la création du
système de fichiers pour avoir plus d'inodes, au prix d'une perte de place
pour le stockage des contenus des fichiers. Il y a un compromis à faire en
fonction de la taille moyenne des fichiers.

Le 30 mars 2017 20:27, "Eric Degenetais"  a écrit :



Le 30 mars 2017 20:20, "Haricophile"  a écrit :

Le Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:50:55 +0200,
contact  a écrit :

> Je ne sais pas si cela est en lien avec le problème, mais sur la
> raspberry pi, il est conseillée de supprimer le maximum de fichier de
> log, pour épargner la carte SD.

Si on a vraiment besoin des logs il y a aussi différents moyen de les
stocker ailleurs.

--
haricoph...@aranha.fr

Mais si c'est un problème d'inodes et non de volumétrie, est-ce qu'on ne
peut pas aussi jouer sur des paramètres du système de fichiers (diminuer la
taille des unités d'allocations pour avoir plus d'inodes, par exemple ?)

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Wednesday, 29 March 2017 22:29:59 -04 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 29 March 2017 20:46:00 kAt wrote:
> > What do you mean down?  You arrogant yankee?
> 
> Don't Yankees come from the United States??  Or is Curt an expat??
> 
> Lisi

Hi y'all,
Oh - OK here is OT:
the Dutch in New Netherland were called "Jan Kees".  New Netherland became 
mostly New York and the locals became "Yankees". So somebody from South 
Carolina may feel that he himself must not be considered to be a "Yankee".
Whether the nickname for the Dutch was just friendly banter or derogative, I 
don't know. Hard to say anyway because names, which once were meant to be 
friendly or neutral got a derogative meaning by and by.
"Down" if referring to a city, land or continent, mostly is used in view of 
the map, which is commonly oriented with north up and south down. So I'm 
living "down" here in South America while you are living "up" there on the 
northern hemisphere.
People may be "up" there on the stage, but they are judged by the critics 
"down" there in the auditorium or are the critics always "up" there in the 
boxes?
I had to look up "bumpkin" however. No, that is not polite ... So why did 
"down" trigger the reply and not the mention of the unexperienced resident of 
the rural parts of the southeastern parts of the country, which must not be 
named?
I recommend a thicker hide to not be offended by everybody and everything.
Or was it just hyperbole?
Eike

 -- 
Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE
Eliminate batteries - they are so polarized.

Re: Erreur lors de l'écriture de test.txt : Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique

[Eric Degenetais]

Le 30 mars 2017 20:20, "Haricophile"  a écrit :

Le Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:50:55 +0200,
contact  a écrit :

> Je ne sais pas si cela est en lien avec le problème, mais sur la
> raspberry pi, il est conseillée de supprimer le maximum de fichier de
> log, pour épargner la carte SD.

Si on a vraiment besoin des logs il y a aussi différents moyen de les
stocker ailleurs.

--
haricoph...@aranha.fr

Mais si c'est un problème d'inodes et non de volumétrie, est-ce qu'on ne
peut pas aussi jouer sur des paramètres du système de fichiers (diminuer la
taille des unités d'allocations pour avoir plus d'inodes, par exemple ?)

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Catherine Gramze]

> On Mar 29, 2017, at 5:29 PM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> 
> Don't Yankees come from the United States??  Or is Curt an expat??
> 
The term Yankee refers specifically to a person from the northern, rather than 
southern, part of the USA, when used by a US native, usually one from the 
south. It is not a compliment. A damn Yankee is a Yankee who intends to live 
indefinitely in the south.

It has been used by people from other countries to refer to a person from the 
USA, no matter their location. A Yankee as opposed to a Kiwi, or a Brit, or an 
Aussie.

No offense toward any group of people is intended in this post.
Cathy

Re: Erreur lors de l'écriture de test.txt : Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique

[Haricophile]

Le Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:50:55 +0200,
contact  a écrit :

> Je ne sais pas si cela est en lien avec le problème, mais sur la 
> raspberry pi, il est conseillée de supprimer le maximum de fichier de 
> log, pour épargner la carte SD.

Si on a vraiment besoin des logs il y a aussi différents moyen de les
stocker ailleurs.

-- 
haricoph...@aranha.fr 

Re: squeeze-lts sources.list

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 30/03/2017 à 16:15, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :


je recherche un sources.list pour installer une squeeze-lts et j'ai un trou de 
mémoire ...

je sais que ça commence un peut comme ça :

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ squeeze  main contrib non-free


C'est squeeze/updates, pas "squeeze".

Note que la dernière version de Squeeze, 6.0.10, a été publiée après 
l'arrêt de la prise en charge de sécurité ordinaire et devrait donc 
contenir toutes les dernières mises à jour de sécurité. Ce dépôt ne 
devrait donc pas être utile.


Ce ne sera pas la même chose pour Wheezy puisque les mises à jour LTS 
sont publiées dans le dépôt de sécurité et non un dépôt wheezy-lts 
spécifique.



deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-volatile/  squeeze main contrib non-free


Le dépôt "volatile" n'existe plus pour Squeeze et avait été remplacé par 
squeeze-updates, qui n'est pas disponible sur le miroir d'archive car il 
me semble que ce type de dépôt n'a de sens que pour une distribution 
maintenue. Comme les mises à jour de sécurité, ces mises à jour 
devraient normalement avoir été intégrées dans la dernière version publiée.



deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main contrib non-free


Il manque le dépôt normal "squeeze".

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[Lisi Reisz]

On Thursday 30 March 2017 18:43:00 kAt wrote:
> In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin

One of the geographical meanings of "down" in English English is "South" .

"South (as south is at the bottom of typical maps).
I went down to Miami for a conference."
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/down

If one takes Yankee to mean New Yorker, then surely North Carolina is down??

We have country bumpkins in the Home Counties.  And is London "up" or "down" 
from York?

Lisi

‎

Re: Una de hostapd en debian 7...

[JAP]

El 29/03/17 a las 15:43, luisededios escribió:

La mía se reduce a un portal cautivo ZeroShell, el cual podía
engañarse mediante un script en python, el cual se iniciaba desde
/etc/rc.local.


Me interesa ese tema, recuerdas cómo lo hacías desde rc.local, alguna
línea?  :)


Bien.
Lo hice de dos maneras distintas.
Una, añadiendo el script de identificación en mi escritorio KDE, en 
"Arranque y apagado", "Autoarranque".

De esa manera, se iniciaba sólo si yo iniciaba la sesión en KDE.
La contra, es que cualquier problemita del escritorio, me quedaba sin red.
Por ello, pasá a adicionar la siguiente línea en /etc/rc.local

/usr/bin/python /opt/ZeroShell/zeroshell-autologin.py

Esto lo saqué de https://code.google.com/archive/p/zeroshell-autologin/


El script en cuestión, con alguna ínfima modificación mía, es el que sigue:

=
#!/usr/bin/python

# ZeroShell autologin

# load python library

from urllib import urlencode
from urllib2 import urlopen
from HTMLParser import HTMLParser
from time import sleep

# login conf

USERNAME = 'MiUsuario'
PASSWORD = 'MiClaveMuyDificil'
REALM = 'ElDominio' => El dominio de tu ISP
SERVER = '192.168.1.1' ==> El servidor ZeroShell

# default params

PROTOCOL = 'http'
PORT = '12080'
SCRIPT = 'zscp'
ZSCPRedirect = '_:::_'

URL = PROTOCOL + '://' + SERVER + ':' + PORT + '/cgi-bin/' + SCRIPT
RENEW_INTERVAL = 40

# class to parse Captive Portal HTML

class ZSParser(HTMLParser):
def __init__(self):
HTMLParser.__init__(self)
self.params = {}
		params = { 'U' : USERNAME , 'P' : PASSWORD , 'Realm' : REALM , 
'Section' : 'CPAuth' , 'Action' : 'Authenticate' , 'ZSCPRedirect' : 
'_:::_' }

http_req = urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))
html_content = http_req.read()
self.feed(html_content)

def get_authkey(self):
			return self.params['Authenticator'] # after parse HTML return the 
authenticator string


def handle_starttag(self, tag, attrs):
		if tag == 'input' and attrs[0][1] == 'hidden': # parse only de html 
input and hidden tags

self.params[attrs[1][1]] = attrs[2][1]

parser = ZSParser() # instantiate the class
authkey = parser.get_authkey() # get authenticator string

# http_request 1 - Section = CPGW

params = { 'U' : USERNAME , 'P' : PASSWORD , 'Realm' : REALM , 
'Authenticator' : authkey, 'Section' : 'CPGW' , 'Action' : 'Connect' , 
'ZSCPRedirect' : '_:::_' }

urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))

# http_request 2 - Section = ClientCTRL

params = { 'U' : USERNAME , 'P' : PASSWORD , 'Realm' : REALM , 
'Authenticator' : authkey, 'Section' : 'ClientCTRL' , 'Action' : 
'Connect' , 'ZSCPRedirect' : '_:::_' }

urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))


while True:
sleep(RENEW_INTERVAL) # wait a time in seconds to renew the connection
	params = { 'Authenticator' : authkey, 'Section' : 'CPGW' , 'Action' : 
'Renew' , 'ZSCPRedirect' : '_:::_' }

urlopen(URL, urlencode(params))

=


Problemas conocidos:

A veces, ante un "lag" del sistema, el equipo se desconectaba de la red 
por haber vencido la sesión. Eso, si usas un navegador común, es 
cuestión de reiniciarlo, pero acá me quedaba el script corriendo.

Por lo que, como root, debía matar a python y reiniciar el script.
El BOFH que me tocó, le puso un temporizador al portal, de manera que si 
se me caía la conexión, debía esperar 10 minutos para reintentar conectarlo.


# killall -s 9 python

# /etc/rc.local
ó
# /usr/bin/python /opt/ZeroShell/zeroshell-autologin.py &

JAP

Re: Movie 'n Book recommendations by Curt

[kAt]

Lisi Reisz:
> On Wednesday 29 March 2017 20:46:00 kAt wrote:
>> What do you mean down?  You arrogant yankee?
> 
> Don't Yankees come from the United States??  Or is Curt an expat??

In any case, looking "down" on people due to their origin (and other
characteristics) is not very social - and once you stick your antisocial
(elitist) head up you must be willing to get some response, or attention.

> Lisi

kAt

Re: debian reinicio constante

[Ismael L. Donis Garcia]

- Original Message - 
From: franiortiz hotmail

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2017 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: debian reinicio constante


No hay manera debían 8.6 también se reinicia, probé con el dvd nightly 
build con lxde como entorno pero igual este tambien
sufre reinicios , aunque durante instalación y en modo consola ninguno me 
ha dado problemas, la ejecución de debían.dvd con >lxde es la que cabe 
esperar, pero en cuanto muevo ratón o tecleo algo, se apaga/reinicia.
Winxp sin embargo perfectamente desde hace 3-4 dias. Ya probé 4 
instalaciones diferentes de debían y en todas
apagados/reinicios inesperados y no quiero probar con arch o ubuntu porque 
aunque saliera bien,, yo quiero debian.
Saque un log con journalctl -xb creo recordar, que lei por encima, algún 
error acpi recuerdo, pero me supera, lo adjunto en

cuanto ponga cliente correo en winxp, tss XD


Prueba con devuan a ver si persiste el problema.

Saludos

| ISMAEL |

Re: debian reinicio constante

[Carlos Manuel Escalona Villeda]

un reinicio así es muy probable que se deba a una combinación de falla de
hardware y un mal controlador. Por eso te comentaba que nos serviría mucho
conocer el hardware sobre el que estás intentando instalar, así sería más
fácil ayudarte.



El jue., 30 de mar. de 2017 a la(s) 11:07, franiortiz hotmail <
franior...@hotmail.com> escribió:

> No hay manera debían 8.6 también se reinicia, probé con el dvd nightly
> build con lxde como entorno pero igual este tambien sufre reinicios ,
> aunque durante instalación y en modo consola ninguno me ha dado problemas,
> la ejecución de debían.dvd con lxde es la que cabe esperar, pero en cuanto
> muevo ratón o tecleo algo, se apaga/reinicia.
> Winxp sin embargo perfectamente desde hace 3-4 dias. Ya probé 4
> instalaciones diferentes de debían y en todas apagados/reinicios
> inesperados y no quiero probar con arch o ubuntu porque aunque saliera
> bien,, yo quiero debian.
> Saque un log con journalctl -xb creo recordar, que lei por encima, algún
> error acpi recuerdo, pero me supera, lo adjunto en cuanto ponga cliente
> correo en winxp, tss XD
>
> El 29 de marzo de 2017 11:22:01 CEST, franiortiz hotmail <
> franior...@hotmail.com> escribió:
>
>
> --
> *De:* franiortiz hotmail 
> *Enviado:* martes, 28 de marzo de 2017 13:14
> *Para:* debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
>
>
> *Asunto:* Re: debian reinicio constante
>
>
> Bueno despues de pasar toda la mañana fuera, debian actualizado seguia
> ahi, pero en cuanto he movido el raton, reinicio.
>
> Ahora acabo de instalar debian-live-8.6.0-i386-standard.iso
> 
> y de momento todo va bien,estas lineas las escribo desde él con
> lxde-core,lightdm, medit,htop y poco mas instalado.
>
> voy a seguir instalando mis paquetes preferidos a ver como se comporta,
> pero todo indica que debian 8.7.1 no es apto para mi pc, adjunto log,
> aunque no lo he hecho con:
>
> journalctl -p3 -xb  o /var/log/boot.log /var/log/messenger dmesg
>
> porque no tengo boot.log, no entendia paramentro "o", ni tengo messenger.
>
> Asi que he puesto esto y es el que os comparto:
>
> tail -f /var/log/messages -f /var/log/syslog -f /var/log/auth.log -f
> /var/log/dmesg -f /var/log/faillog -f /var/log/daemon.log >> lm55.log
>
> --
> *De:* Ernesto Escobedo 
> *Enviado:* martes, 28 de marzo de 2017 7:55
> *Para:* franiortiz hotmail
> *Asunto:* Re: debian reinicio constante
>
> Muy buenas noches
>
> Si agregaras los logs de tu equipo
>
> journalctl -p3 -xb  o /var/log/boot.log /var/log/messenger dmesg
>
> de verdad nos ayudaria para un analisis.
>
> gracias.
>
>
>
> El 27 de marzo de 2017, 17:15, franiortiz hotmail 
> escribió:
>
> Hola a todos pues algo muy raro, sintoma : cuando arranco mi particion
> debian de 3 años de uso en lenovo m55, se apaga-reinicia constantemente.
> causa: en este orden cambios hechos :
> 1- instalar psensor
> 2- redimensionar y mover particion / (un disco, 2 particiones:xp+linux/)
> 3- actualizar
> Al ppio pense que seria por temperatura, asi que limpie bien el pc,
> apenas sucio.
> luego pense por discos o ram, asi que pase memtest, satisfactoriamente,
> los discos los miro con crystaldiskinfo y estan perfectos, por cierto el
> viejo xp y los livecd van perfecto, asi que descarto hardware.
> 4- supuse que al mover la particion (/) algo salio mal, algo que ni fsck
> encontro, que tambien probe. asi que reinstale
> debian-live-8.7.1-i386-standard-non-free.iso con lxde-core, lightdm y
> nada mas, todo actualizado y sorpresa la mia se vuelve a reiniciar solo
> con apenas paquetes en version stable.
> 5- empiezo a pensar que el fallo fue actualizar, voy a probar con la
> version
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/8.6.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.6.0-i386-standard.iso
> , a ver si consigo instalarla sin actualizar y que no se reinicie, pero
> si es asi, me las veo mal sin poder actualizar.
> 6- Esto es un bug?
> Alguna idea? necesito volver a tener mi debian en este pc, que me estoy
> viendo obligado a usar mocosoft
> Gracias, un saludo
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>

Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation

[Brian]

On Thu 30 Mar 2017 at 16:15:18 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

> On 29/03/17 18:27, Brian wrote:
> > 
> > The changelog at backports has
> > 
> >  hplip (3.16.7+repack0-1) unstable; urgency=medium
> > 
> >   * New upstream release
> > - Support for new HP printers:
> >   × Officejet Pro 8730
> > 
> Thanks again, Brian. Once I fiddled with the missing Python component(s)
> - by pure guesswork - I was able to print. Scanning is an issue for
> another day as xsane produces a thin strip of over-printed rubbish. I'll
> probably wait for Stretch before exploring further.

The 8730 looks like a smart device but at 220+ GBP I'd want it working,
Now!

Are you using the USB port or is the device on the network? Either way,
all that is needed for printing is printer-driver-hpcups, unless you are
wedded to having all that hplip provides. You should be able to purge
hplip and whatever python packages it pulled in and printing should
still work. Perhaps best, though, to ignore me and leave things as they
are if you are happy with this situation. You are printing after all.

Scanning? Set up the device wirelessly (it can be left connected by USB
for this, I think) and enable AirPrint/Bonjour from its EWS (embedded
web server):

 http://IP_of_the_8730

After that

 scanimage -L

should pick up the scanner. xsane should offer it as choice if you there
is more than one scanner on the network. Or it should just detect the
OfficeJet and display.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Icedove ouverture navigateur https

[heho]

Bonjour,

(Jessie et Icedove 45.6.0 aussi)

j'ai eu le problème l'autre jour,
(update-alternative, éditeur de configuration
et des posts de forum à n'en plus finir via GG ;)

Finalement, il y a un autre endroit
où les liens http/https peuvent se paramétrer:

dans Préférences
--> Piéces jointes
--> type de contenu
--> http --> utiliser Firefox ESR (defaut)
--> https --> utiliser Firefox ESR (defaut)

cela a enfin supprimé le "disfonctionnement" ici.

Cordialement,
hého


Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit le 03/30/2017 à 05:53 PM :
> Bonjour,
> 
> Debian Jessie, Icedove 45.6
> 
> J’ai une personne qui, quand elle ouvre un lien htps depuis un mail, a
> une boîte de dialogue lui demandant de préciser l’application à
> ouvrir. Je lui ai fait essayer plusieurs choses dans la boîte de
> dialogue choisir :
> - x-www-browser
> - x-www-browser %u
> - firefor-esr
> - firefox-esr %u
> Mais valider sur OK ne produit rien, la boîte de dialogue reste ouverte.
> 
> J’ai voulu forcer la configuration.
> 
> vérifié update-alternative --config x-www-browser : seul firefox-esr est
> configuré.
> 
> Dans l’éditeur de configuration de Icedove, vérifié les valeurs :
> - network.protocol-handler.app.http : x-www-browser
> - network.protocol-handler.app.https : x-www-browser
> - network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http : false
> - network.protocol-handler.warn-external.https : false
> 
> Ladite boîte de ldialogue continue d’apparaître.
> 
> Pas de problème avec les liens http.
> 
> Des lumières ?
> 
> Merci,
> 

Re: debian reinicio constante

[franiortiz hotmail]

No hay manera debían 8.6 también se reinicia, probé con el dvd nightly build 
con lxde como entorno pero igual este tambien sufre reinicios , aunque durante 
instalación y en modo consola ninguno me ha dado problemas, la ejecución de 
debían.dvd con lxde es la que cabe esperar, pero en cuanto muevo ratón o tecleo 
algo, se apaga/reinicia.
Winxp sin embargo perfectamente desde hace 3-4 dias. Ya probé 4 instalaciones 
diferentes de debían y en todas apagados/reinicios inesperados y no quiero 
probar con arch o ubuntu porque aunque saliera bien,, yo quiero debian.
Saque un log con journalctl -xb creo recordar, que lei por encima, algún error 
acpi recuerdo, pero me supera, lo adjunto en cuanto ponga cliente correo en 
winxp, tss XD

El 29 de marzo de 2017 11:22:01 CEST, franiortiz hotmail 
 escribió:



De: franiortiz hotmail 
Enviado: martes, 28 de marzo de 2017 13:14
Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Asunto: Re: debian reinicio constante



Bueno despues de pasar toda la mañana fuera, debian actualizado seguia ahi, 
pero en cuanto he movido el raton, reinicio.

Ahora acabo de instalar 
debian-live-8.6.0-i386-standard.iso
 y de momento todo va bien,estas lineas las escribo desde él con 
lxde-core,lightdm, medit,htop y poco mas instalado.

voy a seguir instalando mis paquetes preferidos a ver como se comporta,  pero 
todo indica que debian 8.7.1 no es apto para mi pc, adjunto log, aunque no lo 
he hecho con:

journalctl -p3 -xb  o /var/log/boot.log /var/log/messenger dmesg

porque no tengo boot.log, no entendia paramentro "o", ni tengo messenger.

Asi que he puesto esto y es el que os comparto:

tail -f /var/log/messages -f /var/log/syslog -f /var/log/auth.log -f 
/var/log/dmesg -f /var/log/faillog -f /var/log/daemon.log >> lm55.log


De: Ernesto Escobedo 
Enviado: martes, 28 de marzo de 2017 7:55
Para: franiortiz hotmail
Asunto: Re: debian reinicio constante

Muy buenas noches

Si agregaras los logs de tu equipo

journalctl -p3 -xb  o /var/log/boot.log /var/log/messenger dmesg

de verdad nos ayudaria para un analisis.

gracias.



El 27 de marzo de 2017, 17:15, franiortiz hotmail 
> escribió:
Hola a todos pues algo muy raro, sintoma : cuando arranco mi particion
debian de 3 años de uso en lenovo m55, se apaga-reinicia constantemente.
causa: en este orden cambios hechos :
1- instalar psensor
2- redimensionar y mover particion / (un disco, 2 particiones:xp+linux/)
3- actualizar
Al ppio pense que seria por temperatura, asi que limpie bien el pc,
apenas sucio.
luego pense por discos o ram, asi que pase memtest, satisfactoriamente,
los discos los miro con crystaldiskinfo y estan perfectos, por cierto el
viejo xp y los livecd van perfecto, asi que descarto hardware.
4- supuse que al mover la particion (/) algo salio mal, algo que ni fsck
encontro, que tambien probe. asi que reinstale
debian-live-8.7.1-i386-standard-non-free.iso con lxde-core, lightdm y
nada mas, todo actualizado y sorpresa la mia se vuelve a reiniciar solo
con apenas paquetes en version stable.
5- empiezo a pensar que el fallo fue actualizar, voy a probar con la
version
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/8.6.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-8.6.0-i386-standard.iso
, a ver si consigo instalarla sin actualizar y que no se reinicie, pero
si es asi, me las veo mal sin poder actualizar.
6- Esto es un bug?
Alguna idea? necesito volver a tener mi debian en este pc, que me estoy
viendo obligado a usar mocosoft
Gracias, un saludo



--
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Re: Matrox G550 mga driver hangs system

[Tony Stoneley]

Felix Miata wrote on Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:44:01 -0400
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg00895.html

>Did you try other things suggested in that thread or the openSUSE bug
>referenced there
>https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004453 ?

To be honest, I'm way out of my depth in all that. I would be happy to
try a particular experiment, given instructions...

>e.g. disabling framebuffer?

Er, how? xserver-xorg-video-fbdev isn't installed, nor for that matter
xserver-xorg-video-modesetting. As I said, I'm out of my depth.

>Which is yours PCIe, or AGP?

Ah! One I can answer:  AGP

>Which WM/DE(s) is/are you trying to use?

xfce4 and all that goes with it, but I don't think it's getting that
far. As previously remarked, that stuff does all work with the vesa
driver (achieved by tweaking xorg.conf).

>Can you see any other clues than Xorg.0.log shows by running
>'journalctl -b -1'?

Nope, though I might possibly not recognise a clue...

Apologies for uselessness (and also btw for wrecking the thread
structure with a completely inadvertent small subject change, the
genesis of which is a complete mystery to me).

--
Tony Stoneley

Re: openvpn - Não consigo acessar maquinas clientes

[Mauricio Neto]

Rafhaeu boa tarde.

Sim essa é a questão, no meu entendimento bastaria eu adicionar no 
servidor vpn (192.1.1.219) a rota para o "gateway" vpn que seria o 
10.1.1.1 (route add -net 10.1.1.0/24 gw 10.1.1.1) que funcionaria mas 
não esta funcionando.


Como disse eu acredito que seja um problema de rota ou rota + nat mas 
com o comando acima ainda assim não funciona.


Atenciosamente

Mauricio Neto


Em 29-03-2017 19:20, Rafhaeu Benedicto escreveu:

 Certo Maurício.

No servidor OpenVPN você teria somente uma interface de rede ou mais 
de uma ?
Se você está entregando os pacotes para o 192.1.1.219 ele que não está 
sabendo o que fazer com ele você poderia verificar​ se tem as rotas 
nele com o comando  ip route show



Em 29 de mar de 2017 7:00 AM, "Mauricio Neto" > escreveu:


Rafhaeu bom dia.

Minha openvpn esta configurada para client to client, mas veja o
problema não é com a openvpn. Usando o software openvpn client eu
consigo acessar as maquinas remotas seja da matriz para as lojas,
seja de loja para loja.

Minha maquina esta na rede 192.1.1.0, ip 192.1.1.10, então para
acessar as lojas via openvpn, rede 10.1.1.0, usando vnc ou remote
desktop preciso que minha maquina saiba para quem rotear os
pacotes da rede 10.1.1.0. Por isso uso o comando route add -net
10.1.1.0/24  gw 192.1.1.219 na minha maquina,
desta forma informando que pacotes para rede 10.1.1.0 devam ser
encaminhados para o servidor openvpn ou seja 192.1.1.219.

A questão é que não estou conseguindo rotear/"natear" (???) os
pacotes quando os mesmos chegam ao 192.1.1.219. Preciso que o
192.1.1.219 entenda que pacotes recebidos para a rede 10.1.1.0
devam ser encaminhados pelo tunel vpn. E acredito que seja uma
combinação rota estática + nat que não estou conseguindo aplicar.

Atenciosamente

Mauricio Neto



Em 28/03/2017 19:23, Rafhaeu Benedicto escreveu:

Agora ficou mais claro Maurício...

E mais uma pergunta você usa OpenVPN site to site ou site to client ?
Seu OpenVPN é Gateway dá sua rede ?

Dependendo das questões acima você teria que adicionar as rotas
no seu servidor e não em sua máquina.

Em 28 de mar de 2017 1:24 PM, "Mauricio Neto" > escreveu:

Rafhaeu boa tarde.

Também acho confuso usando as letras :-)

(os IPs são fictícios mais mantendo a estrutura real)

Meu ip publico 179.1.1.6
Meu servidor openvpn : 192.1.1.219/24 
Minha maquina na matriz: 192.1.1.10
Minha rede vpn 10.1.1.0/24 

No 192.1.1.219 pingo qualquer maquina de loja.
Se utilizo o openvpn client consigo acesso a qualquer loja.


Na minha maquina uso o comando route add 10.1.1.0/24
 gw 192.1.1.219
se efetuo um traceroute para 10.1.1.100 (endereço de alguma
loja) o primeiro salto é o 192.1.1.219 e não roteia mais.

Fora da matriz usando openvpn acesso qualquer loja e pingo o
192.1.1.219 mas não vejo nenhum dos servidores da rede 192.1.1.0

Acho que ficou mais claro agora

Atenciosamente
Mauricio Neto

Em 27-03-2017 19:13, Rafhaeu Benedicto escreveu:

Não consegui entender muito bem seu cenário seria esse:

Rede 10.10.1.0/24  => servidor OpenVPN
10.99.99.1=> internet => Cliente OpenVPN 10.99.99.2 => rede
10.10.2.0/24 
Seria isso ?
Pois dá forma,a.b.c , d.y.z está atrapalhando um pouco a
minha compreensão.

Em 27 de mar de 2017 6:21 PM, "Mauricio Neto"
> escreveu:

Leandro boa tarde.

Minha maquina na matriz esta na mesma rede do servidor
vpn. Meu ip é x.y.z.10.

o IP x.y.z.219 é o do servidor com o serviço openvpn meu
endereço publico é Vivo (179.x.y.6)

Minha comunicação com as maquinas remotas é via openvpn
rede 10.a.b.0/24 e funciona se eu utilizar qualquer
maquina que tenha o openvpn instalado

Eu tenho um notebook que esta na minha rede interna mas
via wifi com uma rede diferente da x.y.z.0/24, recebendo
um ip tipo x.y.*0*.10/24 e neste notebook como uso o
openvpn client comunico com as lojas sem problema. O
mesmo acontece da minha própria maquina. Se eu ativar o
openvpn client consigo comunicar com as lojas. Ou seja o
túnel vpn funciona, o que não consigo fazer é uma
maquina na mesma rede do servidor openvpn, com a rota
estática para o servidor openvpn rotear para a rede 10.a.b.0

Isso que esta me deixando louco, não consigo atinar para
essa logica de 

Icedove ouverture navigateur https

[Raphaël POITEVIN]

Bonjour,

Debian Jessie, Icedove 45.6

J’ai une personne qui, quand elle ouvre un lien htps depuis un mail, a
une boîte de dialogue lui demandant de préciser l’application à
ouvrir. Je lui ai fait essayer plusieurs choses dans la boîte de
dialogue choisir :
- x-www-browser
- x-www-browser %u
- firefor-esr
- firefox-esr %u
Mais valider sur OK ne produit rien, la boîte de dialogue reste ouverte.

J’ai voulu forcer la configuration.

vérifié update-alternative --config x-www-browser : seul firefox-esr est
configuré.

Dans l’éditeur de configuration de Icedove, vérifié les valeurs :
- network.protocol-handler.app.http : x-www-browser
- network.protocol-handler.app.https : x-www-browser
- network.protocol-handler.warn-external.http : false
- network.protocol-handler.warn-external.https : false

Ladite boîte de ldialogue continue d’apparaître.

Pas de problème avec les liens http.

Des lumières ?

Merci,
-- 
Raphaë

Re: HP Printer (OfficeJet 8730) Installation

[Peter Hillier-Brook]

On 29/03/17 18:27, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 29 Mar 2017 at 17:59:03 +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
> 
>> Fully up to date Jessie installation
>>
>> my printer recently died and I replaced it with a new OfficeJet as
>> above. Regrettably support is not available with hplip in Jessie, nor
>> with version 3.16.11 that is current in hplip downloads.
>>
>> Has anyone achieved success with this device and, if so how?
> 
> HP's website: 
> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/supported_devices/officejet.html
> 
> The Min. HPLIP Version is 3.16.7. Debian has that in backports for Jessie.
> 
> The changelog at backports has
> 
>  hplip (3.16.7+repack0-1) unstable; urgency=medium
> 
>   * New upstream release
> - Support for new HP printers:
>   × Officejet Pro 8730
> 
Thanks again, Brian. Once I fiddled with the missing Python component(s)
- by pure guesswork - I was able to print. Scanning is an issue for
another day as xsane produces a thin strip of over-printed rubbish. I'll
probably wait for Stretch before exploring further.

Peter HB



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Re: Erreur lors de l'écriture de test.txt : Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique

[contact]

Bonjour


Je ne sais pas si cela est en lien avec le problème, mais sur la 
raspberry pi, il est conseillée de supprimer le maximum de fichier de 
log, pour épargner la carte SD.



cordialement--
*François-Marie BILLARD*
Sculpteur - Céramiste 


Le 30/03/2017 à 15:19, pat G a écrit :

ok

Le 22/03/2017 à 00:47, Sébastien Dinot a écrit :

Mais sans plus d'éléments d'information sur le serveur considéré, il est
impossible de dire s'il est normal que 432352 inodes soient consommés.

j'utilise nagios, glpi, ocsinventory dessus... c'est sur un raspberry pi

Pour localiser les applications et/ou paquets qui consomment beaucoup
d'inodes, Patrice peut tenter d'identifier les répertoires qui
contiennent le plus grand nombre de fichiers. Voici ce que cela donne
sur deux de mes machines :

sudo find / -xdev -printf '%h\n' | sort | uniq -c | sort -k1nr | head -n 3
  11907 /home/seb/.josm/cache/wms/4/lambertcc9
   8842 /home/seb/.josm/cache/wms/5/lambertcc9
   4758 /home/seb/.josm/cache/wms/5/mercator

sudo find / -xdev -printf '%h\n' | sort | uniq -c | sort -k1nr | head -n 3
  12970 /var/lib/dpkg/info
   7521 /usr/share/man/man3
   3571 /usr/share/man/man1

ok, je regarde ça... mais je vais certainement retenter la réinstallation.

Re: squeeze-lts sources.list

[Cyrille]

Bjr,
un sujet similaire ici
https://www.debian-fr.org/t/source-list-stretch/71725/3

Le Thu, 30 Mar 2017 16:15:38 +0200 (CEST),
bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit :

> bonjour,
> 
> 
> je recherche un sources.list pour installer une squeeze-lts et j'ai
> un trou de mémoire ...
> 
> je sais que ça commence un peut comme ça :
> 
> deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ squeeze  main contrib
> non-free
> 
> deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze main contrib
> non-free deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-volatile/  squeeze main
> contrib non-free
> 
> deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main contrib
> non-free
> 
> pouvez vous le confirmer
> 
> slt
> bernard
> 



-- 
Makhnovtchina, Makhnovtchina 
Tes drapeaux sont noirs dans le vent
ils sont noirs de notre peine
ils sont rouges de notre sang...

squeeze-lts sources.list

[bernard . schoenacker]

bonjour,


je recherche un sources.list pour installer une squeeze-lts et j'ai un trou de 
mémoire ...

je sais que ça commence un peut comme ça :

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security/ squeeze  main contrib non-free

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-volatile/  squeeze main contrib non-free

deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-lts main contrib non-free

pouvez vous le confirmer

slt
bernard

Re: Postfix Dovecot et SSL : SSL23: unknown protocol

[andre_debian]

On Tuesday 28 March 2017 13:57:29 Thierry Bugier Pineau wrote:
> Dans mes diverses notes j'ai retenu ceci pour /etc/hosts
> 127.0.0.1 localhost127.0.1.1  nom-serveur.domaine 
> domaine  pop.domaine  smtp.domaine :

Je pense pas que ces lignes de "/etc/hosts" soient la cause du problème :-)

> Pour ces erreurs je n'ai pas encore pu fouiller mes notes; mais un coup
> d'oeil sur google m'a montré que ce n'est pas spécifique à dovecot,
> donc il y a potentiellement un réel souci sur le SSL ou bien sur
> l'utilisation de SSL par Dovecot :

En modifiant la ligne "/etc/dovecot/conf.d/10-ssl.conf" :
ssl_cipher_list = ALL:!LOW:!SSLv2:!SSLv3:ALL:!aNULL:!ADH:!eNULL:!EXP:RC4+RSA:
+HIGH:+MEDIUM
ça semble remarcher.

La détection auto de Kmail me met :
TLS, port 110, méthode d'identification PLAIN,
OK
En mettant le port 995 à la mano = OK aussi.

# tail /var/log/mail.err
n'affiche plus d'erreur : "SSL23: unknown protocol",
mais toujours l'erreur :
"pop3-login : Error : ssl3_get_client_hello : no shared cipher"

Bonne journée,

André

Re: Wan/Lan problem

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, March 29, 2017 05:11:25 PM Mike McClain wrote:
> The problem I have with your solution is that the Win2K box is not
> behind the firewall I have running on the Linux box.
> 
> Thank you for your thoughts.

You're welcome!

I think Henning, in a later post, may have identified the problem in your 
configuration.

Still for posterity, I'll mention a few things:

   * I don't know what you have in your firewall, but I think (but am not sure) 
that most routers can do firewalls

   * And a router like the EdgeRouter from Unity has an underlying (and 
accessible) Debian OS (6.n) so maybe your firewall rules could be moved there.  

   * I don't use firewalls, I use NAT (which has a few variations) and an 
/etc/hosts files which basically ignores a large number of spammy websites (by 
resolving the host name to 0.0.0.0).

Good luck, I hope Henniing has identified the problem! 

Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[Jean-Marc]

Thu, 30 Mar 2017 09:23:18 +0200
Eric Bernard  écrivait :

> Bonjour,
> j'utilise 2 écrans depuis pas mal de temps et je n'ai installé que le 
> pilote propriétaire Nvidia.

J'utilise plusieurs écrans de temps en temps grâce à la sortie HDMI de mon 
portable et je n'ai jamais installé de paquet spécial.

Le pilote i915 prévu pour le GPU intégré au processeur Intel Haswell fait très 
bien le job.

Et Gnome fournit tout ce qu'il faut pour configurer le tout.


> Cordialement
> 
>Eric BERNARD


Jean-Marc 


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Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[Eric Bernard]

Bonjour,
j'utilise 2 écrans depuis pas mal de temps et je n'ai installé que le 
pilote propriétaire Nvidia.



Cordialement


--



  Eric BERNARD
  Responsable informatique
  et multimédia
  02 41 51 11 36






Le 30/03/2017 à 09:10, alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Je dispose d'une station de travail avec la carte graphique suivante

NVidia Quadro NVS290 Dual Head

1) j'ai installé Debian 8.6, mais je ne pense pas que la carte utilise 
les drivers propriétaires:
dois-je aller sur le site de Nvidia pour télécharger et installer les 
drivers optimisés pour cette carte,


2) De façon occasionnelle, je pourrai être amené à utiliser la seconde 
sortie de la carte graphique pour la relier à un vidéoprojecteur, quel 
ou quels sont les paquets
qui me permettraient de faire cela sans déstabiliser mon système, 
c'est à dire sans destabiliser

l'affichage avec un seul écran.

Je vous remercie.
Alex PADOLY

Re: Erreur lors de l'écriture de test.txt : Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique

[pat G]

ok

Le 22/03/2017 à 00:47, Sébastien Dinot a écrit :
> Mais sans plus d'éléments d'information sur le serveur considéré, il est
> impossible de dire s'il est normal que 432352 inodes soient consommés.
j'utilise nagios, glpi, ocsinventory dessus... c'est sur un raspberry pi
> Pour localiser les applications et/ou paquets qui consomment beaucoup
> d'inodes, Patrice peut tenter d'identifier les répertoires qui
> contiennent le plus grand nombre de fichiers. Voici ce que cela donne
> sur deux de mes machines :
>
> sudo find / -xdev -printf '%h\n' | sort | uniq -c | sort -k1nr | head -n 3
>   11907 /home/seb/.josm/cache/wms/4/lambertcc9
>8842 /home/seb/.josm/cache/wms/5/lambertcc9
>4758 /home/seb/.josm/cache/wms/5/mercator
>
> sudo find / -xdev -printf '%h\n' | sort | uniq -c | sort -k1nr | head -n 3
>   12970 /var/lib/dpkg/info
>7521 /usr/share/man/man3
>3571 /usr/share/man/man1
ok, je regarde ça... mais je vais certainement retenter la réinstallation.

Re: Erreur lors de l'écriture de test.txt : Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique

[pat G]

merci. je vais regarder ça, et certainement réinstaller... j'ai
l'impression que c'est reccurent sur ma machine , c'est un rapsberry pi2
(juste pour du monitoring nagios). peut-être changer de carte SD ?


Le 20/03/2017 à 22:43, Sébastien Dinot a écrit :
> Sébastien Dinot a écrit :
>> Il n'y a plus aucun i-node disponible sur le système de fichier.
>> Autrement dit, il reste bien de l'espace disponible sur le disque mais
>> plus aucun point d'entrée.
> J'ai oublié de préciser qu'à ma connaissance, il n'est pas possible
> d'augmenter a posteriori le nombre d'inodes d'un système de fichiers. Ce
> faisant, les solutions possibles sont :
>
> A. Dans l'immédiat
>
>   Dans l'urgence, supprimer des fichiers, par exemple des paquets Debian
>   inutiles. À ce jeu, les paquets linux-headers-* sont d'excellents
>   candidats. Attention, les commandes de gestion de paquets de haut
>   niveau, notamment les commandes graphiques, sont inopérantes dans ces
>   circonstances car elles ont elles-mêmes besoin de créer des fichiers
>   temporaires sur le disque. Rien ne vaut un « dpkg --purge  »
>   dans ce cas.
>
> B. À terme
>
>   - Sauvegarder les données utiles, notamment le contenu des répertoires
> /etc, /home, /root, ... (si le disque est de faible taille, il peut
> même être prudent de copier tout son contenu sur un autre support).
>
>   - Reformater le disque en augmentant le nombre d'inodes
>
>   - Réinstaller le système
>
>   - Recopier les données utiles
>
> Sébastien
>
>
>

Re: Erreur lors de l'écriture de test.txt : Aucun espace disponible sur le périphérique

[pat G]

ok, on peut avoir des inodes pleins et pas le disque... c'est
intéressant... je regarde la suite.

Le 20/03/2017 à 22:25, Sébastien Dinot a écrit :
> Patrice Go a écrit :
>>et pour un df -i ça donne :
>>
>>/dev/root432352 432352  0  100% /
> Il n'y a plus aucun i-node disponible sur le système de fichier. Autrement
> dit, il reste bien de l'espace disponible sur le disque mais plus aucun point
> d'entrée.
>
> Sébastien
>

Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[alex . padoly]

Merci beaucoup, c'est ce paquet que je vais installer. 
Alex 

- Mail original -

De: "François LE GAD"  
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org 
Envoyé: Jeudi 30 Mars 2017 11:43:18 
Objet: Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans 

Le 30/03/2017 à 09:10, alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit : 

> 
> 2) De façon occasionnelle, je pourrai être amené à utiliser la seconde 
> sortie de la carte graphique pour la relier à un vidéoprojecteur, quel 
> ou quels sont les paquets 
> qui me permettraient de faire cela sans déstabiliser mon système, c'est 
> à dire sans destabiliser 
> l'affichage avec un seul écran. 

J'utilise couramment arandr (interface graphique de xrandr) sous XFCE. 
Il permet d'avoir le même affichage sur les deux écrans, ou deux 
affichages différents, ou un chevauchement, au choix, et de mémoriser 
les différents réglages. 


-- 
François 
http://flegad.infini.fr 

Re: Wan/Lan problem

[Henning Follmann]

On March 28, 2017 7:46:02 PM EDT, Mike McClain  wrote:
>Howdy,
>I have a WAN/LAN challenge I'm hoping for help with.
>
>I'm runniing Debian 7.11 on a Pentium 3 with 250MB ram.
>
>mike@/deb7:~> uname -a
>Linux playground 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.84-2 i686 GNU/Linux
>
>
>The situation is this:
>
> phoneeth0 eth1
>AT|   ||   ||   |---|   |
>AT modem/ Linux my Win2K
>router   box router   box
>
>When eth0 is up and eth1 down,
>the Linux box can access the web.
>'ping ATTrouter' works.
>When eth0 is up and eth1 up,
>the Linux box can not access the web.
>the Win2K box can access the web.
>the Linux box can not access the Win2K shares.
>'ping ATTrouter' fails.
>'ping -Ieth0 ATTrouter' works.
>When eth0 is down and eth1 up,
>the Linux box can access the Win2K shares.
>When eth0 is down and eth1 down,
>it's quiet.
>
>The ATT router is set to 'Pass Through' giving the Linux box the ATT
>router's IP address.
>The Linux box is set to use DHCP.
>This might explain why I loose the LAN connection when eth0 up.
>
>Why can the Linux box not see the web while the Win2K box can?
>
>I've not found or at least recognized the problem in the HowTo's.
>Pointer's or suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
>#   /etc/hosts
>192.168.1.254ATTrouter
>#192.168.1.64outbound.att.netatt
>127.0.0.1   localhost
>192.168.1.2 playground  play
>192.168.1.3 south40 s40
>192.168.1.1 router
># --- end hosts
>
># /etc/networks
>default0.0.0.0
>loopback   127.0.0.0
>link-local 169.254.0.0
>localnet   192.168.1.0
># --- end networks
>
># /etc/resolv.conf
>domain attlocal.net
>search attlocal.net
>nameserver 192.168.1.254
># --- end resolv.conf
>
>#   /etc/network/interfaces
># This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
># and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
># The loopback network interface
>auto lo
>iface lo inet loopback
>
># The primary network interface
>allow-hotplug eth1
>#   eth0 = onboard eth port
>iface eth0 inet dhcp
>#   eth1 = 3Com PCI 3c905C card
>iface eth1 inet static
>address 192.168.1.2
>netmask 255.255.255.0
>network 192.168.1.0
>broadcast 192.168.1.255
># dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed
>dns-nameservers 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
># --- end interfaces
>
>--
>"I reckon some folks figure it a compliment to be called
>'broad-minded.'
>Back home, broad-minded is just another way of saying a feller is too
>lazy to form an opinion."- Will Rogers



You put eth0 and eth1 into the same network segment.
That most likely is your problem
Either you bridge eth0 and eth1 or if you want your linux box as a firewall you 
pick a different ntwork for eth1

-- 
Henning Follmann

Re: Matrox G550 + mga driver hangs system

[Felix Miata]

I tried to net install Stretch to my MGA550 machine, but kept getting segfaults 
trying to configure network. So I restored a backup image of Jessie from another 
machine to my MGA550 machine. It worked normally, so I dist-upgraded it to 
Stretch on vtty 3. When done, I logged into :1 using startx with a good TDE 
session. Then I exited and logged in in the greeter. That worked too. I logged 
out, then tried to log back in, and got a black screen and no keyboard response.


I rebooted, and tried various cmdline options and switching back and forth 
between graphical and multi-user targets for over an hour. Sometimes I'd get 
black screen and no keyboard response. Sometimes X would start and immediately 
exit. Sometimes a segfault would show up in dmesg. Sometimes a segfault would 
show up in Xorg.0.log. I had a bug almost ready to file before figuring out 
using multi-user.target how to reliably get a working TDE session using this 
kernel cmdline:

root=LABEL=SS25deb9 ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume vga=791 iomem=relaxed

I'm actually starting via a script, /usr/local/bin/tdestart:
#!/bin/sh
WINDOWMANAGER=/opt/trinity/bin/starttde startx

xserver-xorg-legacy is installed, and /usr/bin/Xorg perms are set to 4711.

Adding drm.debug=1 or drm.debug=0x0e to cmdline causes black screen, no KBD 
response, and the following in dmesg & the journal:

kernel: mtrr: no MTRR for f400,200 found
kernel: [drm] Initialized
kernel: [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
kernel: [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
kernel: [drm] Initialized mga 3.2.1 20051102 for :01:00.0 on minor 0
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Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[François LE GAD]

Le 30/03/2017 à 09:10, alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit :



2) De façon occasionnelle, je pourrai être amené à utiliser la seconde
sortie de la carte graphique pour la relier à un vidéoprojecteur, quel
ou quels sont les paquets
qui me permettraient de faire cela sans déstabiliser mon système, c'est
à dire sans destabiliser
l'affichage avec un seul écran.


J'utilise couramment arandr (interface graphique de xrandr) sous XFCE. 
Il permet d'avoir le même affichage sur les deux écrans, ou deux 
affichages différents, ou un chevauchement, au choix, et de mémoriser 
les différents réglages.



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Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[Antoine]

Bonjour,

L'affichage peut être partiellement configuré via le gestionnaire de 
paramètres de Xfce. J'utilise en complément nvidia-settings (une fois 
les drivers proprios installés) pour affiner : j'ai besoin d'un bureau 
étendu, car j'ai une tablette Wacom Cintiq branchée à la deuxième sortie 
de ma carte graphique.


Cordialement,

Antoine

Le 30/03/2017 à 09:24, alex.pad...@laposte.net a écrit :

Bonjour,

Merci pour votre réponse.
J'utilise xfce que je trouve léger.

Cordialement.
Alex


*De: *"Olivier Bitsch" 
*À: *"alex padoly" 
*Cc: *"Liste Debian" , "alex
padoly" 
*Envoyé: *Jeudi 30 Mars 2017 10:17:23
*Objet: *Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

Bonjour Alex,

1. Il n'est pas forcément nécessaire d'installer les drivers
propriétaires, il est possible que le drivers Open Source (Nouveau)
suffise. Néanmoins, les drivers propriétaires apportent parfois une
meilleure stabilité ainsi que le support des jeux sur Steam. Pour
installer les drivers proprio, je conseille cette page en anglais
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

2. Je ne sais pas quelle gestionnaire de fenêtre de bureau est installé,
mais sur Gnome il n'est pas nécessaire d'installer quoi que ce soit. Le
réglage des écrans se fait via un clic droit sur le bureau et en
cliquant sur paramètre d'affichage.

Très bonne journée.

olivier.


Le 30 mars 2017 à 09:10, > a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Je dispose d'une station de travail avec la carte graphique suivante

NVidia Quadro NVS290 Dual Head

1) j'ai installé Debian 8.6, mais je ne pense pas que la carte
utilise les drivers propriétaires:
dois-je aller sur le site de Nvidia pour télécharger et installer
les drivers optimisés pour cette carte,

2) De façon occasionnelle, je pourrai être amené à utiliser la
seconde sortie de la carte graphique pour la relier à un
vidéoprojecteur, quel ou quels sont les paquets
qui me permettraient de faire cela sans déstabiliser mon système,
c'est à dire sans destabiliser
l'affichage avec un seul écran.

Je vous remercie.
Alex PADOLY

Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[alex . padoly]

Bonjour, 

Merci pour votre réponse. 
J'utilise xfce que je trouve léger. 

Cordialement. 
Alex 

- Mail original -

De: "Olivier Bitsch"  
À: "alex padoly"  
Cc: "Liste Debian" , "alex padoly" 
 
Envoyé: Jeudi 30 Mars 2017 10:17:23 
Objet: Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans 

Bonjour Alex, 

1. Il n'est pas forcément nécessaire d'installer les drivers propriétaires, il 
est possible que le drivers Open Source (Nouveau) suffise. Néanmoins, les 
drivers propriétaires apportent parfois une meilleure stabilité ainsi que le 
support des jeux sur Steam. Pour installer les drivers proprio, je conseille 
cette page en anglais https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers 

2. Je ne sais pas quelle gestionnaire de fenêtre de bureau est installé, mais 
sur Gnome il n'est pas nécessaire d'installer quoi que ce soit. Le réglage des 
écrans se fait via un clic droit sur le bureau et en cliquant sur paramètre 
d'affichage. 

Très bonne journée. 

olivier. 


Le 30 mars 2017 à 09:10, < alex.pad...@laposte.net > a écrit : 



Bonjour à tous, 

Je dispose d'une station de travail avec la carte graphique suivante 

NVidia Quadro NVS290 Dual Head 

1) j'ai installé Debian 8.6, mais je ne pense pas que la carte utilise les 
drivers propriétaires: 
dois-je aller sur le site de Nvidia pour télécharger et installer les drivers 
optimisés pour cette carte, 

2) De façon occasionnelle, je pourrai être amené à utiliser la seconde sortie 
de la carte graphique pour la relier à un vidéoprojecteur, quel ou quels sont 
les paquets 
qui me permettraient de faire cela sans déstabiliser mon système, c'est à dire 
sans destabiliser 
l'affichage avec un seul écran. 

Je vous remercie. 
Alex PADOLY 

Re: Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[Olivier Bitsch]

Bonjour Alex,

1. Il n'est pas forcément nécessaire d'installer les drivers propriétaires,
il est possible que le drivers Open Source (Nouveau) suffise. Néanmoins,
les drivers propriétaires apportent parfois une meilleure stabilité ainsi
que le support des jeux sur Steam. Pour installer les drivers proprio, je
conseille cette page en anglais
https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

2. Je ne sais pas quelle gestionnaire de fenêtre de bureau est installé,
mais sur Gnome il n'est pas nécessaire d'installer quoi que ce soit. Le
réglage des écrans se fait via un clic droit sur le bureau et en cliquant
sur paramètre d'affichage.

Très bonne journée.

olivier.


Le 30 mars 2017 à 09:10,  a écrit :

> Bonjour à tous,
>
> Je dispose d'une station de travail avec la carte graphique suivante
>
> NVidia Quadro NVS290 Dual Head
>
> 1) j'ai installé Debian 8.6, mais je ne pense pas que la carte utilise les
> drivers propriétaires:
> dois-je aller sur le site de Nvidia pour télécharger et installer les
> drivers optimisés pour cette carte,
>
> 2) De façon occasionnelle, je pourrai être amené à utiliser la seconde
> sortie de la carte graphique pour la relier à un vidéoprojecteur, quel ou
> quels sont les paquets
> qui me permettraient de faire cela sans déstabiliser mon système, c'est à
> dire sans destabiliser
> l'affichage avec un seul écran.
>
> Je vous remercie.
> Alex PADOLY
>

Quel (s) paquet à installer pour gérer 2 écrans

[alex . padoly]

Bonjour à tous, 

Je dispose d'une station de travail avec la carte graphique suivante 

NVidia Quadro NVS290 Dual Head 

1) j'ai installé Debian 8.6, mais je ne pense pas que la carte utilise les 
drivers propriétaires: 
dois-je aller sur le site de Nvidia pour télécharger et installer les drivers 
optimisés pour cette carte, 

2) De façon occasionnelle, je pourrai être amené à utiliser la seconde sortie 
de la carte graphique pour la relier à un vidéoprojecteur, quel ou quels sont 
les paquets 
qui me permettraient de faire cela sans déstabiliser mon système, c'est à dire 
sans destabiliser 
l'affichage avec un seul écran. 

Je vous remercie. 
Alex PADOLY