Re: attach a big picture

[Felix Miata]

arne composed on 2017-10-21 06:38 (UTC+0200):

> How can I attach a big picture to the mail I need to send to explain
> my problem? Does an online service excist?

https://paste.debian.net/
It can be used directly from the cmdline if desired with pastebinit.

See also:
https://pastebin.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastebin

If you install and run Apache on Debian you can simply provide a URI to an
image file on your own Debian PC.
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Re: attach a big picture This username is already in use. Stupid Yahoo mail won't let me in I am sorry, Cars Street signs etc,

[arne]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 07:07:21 +0200
arne  wrote:

> I am not a robot.
> I can see clear whether I see a car or a street sign.
> 

It would be nice to find another one other than imgur to show a
picture :)

Pain in the ass that imgur
It took me over 100 windows clicks with no result

Re: attach a big picture This username is already in use. Stupid Yahoo mail won't let me in I am sorry, Cars Street signs etc,

[arne]

I am not a robot.
I can see clear whether I see a car or a street sign.

Re: attach a big picture This username is already in use. Stupid Yahoo mail won't let me in I am sorry, Cars Street signs etc,

[arne]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:50:40 -0700
Weaver  wrote:

> On 2017-10-21 14:44, arne wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 06:38:55 +0200
> > arne  wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> How can I attach a big picture to the mail I need to send to
> >> explain my problem? Does an online service excist?
> >>
> >> Thanks!  
> > 
> > It is a picture from a screenshot of my screen with KPat, showing
> > extremely small cards I want to show you.
> > I am having this problem several years now.
> > Debian Stretch and previous versions of Debian suffered from this
> > bug. Nvidia 1050 graphics card. AMD64.  
> 
> https://imgur.com/
> 
> Free to join.
> 

Re: Bug with /etc/resolv.conf

[Rhys Williams]

Hey,

resolvconf[1] would be the package you are looking for.

Regards,

Rhys Williams

[1] https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=resolvconf

October 21, 2017 5:30 AM, "vandman"  wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a bug to report, but I can not find the package responsible for.
> When I use reportbug, It says it can not find any package and so to
> contact you.
> I have a server on witch I set manually all the conf in
> /etc/network.interfaces.
> As soon as I set up my interfaces with bridge mode and restart the
> server, I get all the time an empty file /etc/resolv.conf and so no dns
> resolution.
> What package sould I use for my report?
> Thanks
> Vandman

Re: attach a big picture

[arne]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 21:50:40 -0700
Weaver  wrote:

> On 2017-10-21 14:44, arne wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 06:38:55 +0200
> > arne  wrote:
> >   
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> How can I attach a big picture to the mail I need to send to
> >> explain my problem? Does an online service excist?
> >>
> >> Thanks!  
> > 
> > It is a picture from a screenshot of my screen with KPat, showing
> > extremely small cards I want to show you.
> > I am having this problem several years now.
> > Debian Stretch and previous versions of Debian suffered from this
> > bug. Nvidia 1050 graphics card. AMD64.  
> 
> https://imgur.com/
> 
> Free to join.
> 

I tried a Dozen times but they won't let me in, those guys al Imgur.
Took me 10 minutes.

Thanks for the suggestion

Re: attach a big picture

[Weaver]

On 2017-10-21 14:44, arne wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 06:38:55 +0200
> arne  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> How can I attach a big picture to the mail I need to send to explain
>> my problem? Does an online service excist?
>>
>> Thanks!
> 
> It is a picture from a screenshot of my screen with KPat, showing
> extremely small cards I want to show you.
> I am having this problem several years now.
> Debian Stretch and previous versions of Debian suffered from this bug.
> Nvidia 1050 graphics card. AMD64.

https://imgur.com/

Free to join.

-- 
"It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its 
government."
 -- Thomas Paine

Registered Linux User: 554515

Re: attach a big picture

[arne]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 06:38:55 +0200
arne  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> How can I attach a big picture to the mail I need to send to explain
> my problem? Does an online service excist?
> 
> Thanks!

It is a picture from a screenshot of my screen with KPat, showing
extremely small cards I want to show you.
I am having this problem several years now.
Debian Stretch and previous versions of Debian suffered from this bug.
Nvidia 1050 graphics card. AMD64.

attach a big picture

[arne]

Hi,

How can I attach a big picture to the mail I need to send to explain
my problem? Does an online service excist?

Thanks!

Bug with /etc/resolv.conf

[vandman]

Hi,
I have a bug to report, but I can not find the package responsible for.
When I use reportbug, It says it can not find any package and so to
contact you.
I have a server on witch I set manually all the conf in
/etc/network.interfaces.
As soon as I set up my interfaces with bridge mode and restart the
server, I get all the time an empty file /etc/resolv.conf and so no dns
resolution.
What package sould I use for my report?
Thanks
Vandman

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Release Key and Keyrings

[Josh Webb]

Hello. I am having a very difficult time getting the repositories to
work properly or even at all. It tells me that there is no release file
and that the package cannot perform its functions. Enclosed is an
atatchment that give some examples of my problems... Can you please
help me??? 

release file not working.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text

Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2017 10:18:25 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
 wrote:

> 
> 
> On 10/21/2017 01:28 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:31:14 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>  [big snip]
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your input.
> >>> No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was
> >>> completely gone.
> >>> Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.
> >>>
> >>> What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to
> >>> default one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some icons
> >>> on the newly added panel also disappears. AND I can not delete the
> >>> newly added panel.
> >>>
> >>> What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time
> >>> not to mess with desktop panel.
> >>> This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.
> >>>
> >>> Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk
> >>> top.
> >>>
> >>
> >> I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess
> >> this is Debian Stretch specific problem.
> > 
> > Have you checked LXDE's site for this problem or posted a query
> > about it to their mailing list, etc?
> > 
> > I've been testing Stretch 64-bit in VirtualBox, but only with
> > Openbox, LXDE's default window manager, that is, no desktop
> > environment installed, and I don't experience this problem.
> > 
> > Check in your user home directory for .config/lxpanel/default/panels
> > and see what's listed.
> > 
> > FYI:  I'm using sysvinit as init for this test install, but have not
> > removed any systemd stuff.  Could make a difference.  Who knows?
> > 
> > B
> > 
> 
> I have posted in LXDE forum as well but I haven't got any useful
> response.
> 
> I don't see .config/lxpanel/default/panels
> All I got is
> 
> /.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels

There's no prepended /.  .config is a hidden directory in your user's
home directory.  Since I'm not running LXDE and you are, that's
explains the difference.  But there should be configuration files
there for each running panel.

> and I really don't know what to look for.

Read my FOLLOWUP post for what transpired after my initial reply to
your post.

B

FOLLOWUP Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 09:28:00 -0700 Patrick Bartek 
wrote:

> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:31:14 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
>  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  [big snip]
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your input.
> > > No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was
> > > completely gone.
> > > Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.
> > > 
> > > What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to
> > > default one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some icons
> > > on the newly added panel also disappears. AND I can not delete the
> > > newly added panel.
> > > 
> > > What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time
> > > not to mess with desktop panel.
> > > This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.
> > > 
> > > Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk
> > > top.
> > > 
> > 
> > I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess
> > this is Debian Stretch specific problem.
> 
> Have you checked LXDE's site for this problem or posted a query about
> it to their mailing list, etc?
> 
> I've been testing Stretch 64-bit in VirtualBox, but only with Openbox,
> LXDE's default window manager, that is, no desktop environment
> installed, and I don't experience this problem.
> 
> Check in your user home directory for .config/lxpanel/default/panels
> and see what's listed.
> 
> FYI:  I'm using sysvinit as init for this test install, but have not
> removed any systemd stuff.  Could make a difference.  Who knows?
> 
> B

After adding an lxpanel in addition to the default one I already had,
configured it, added applets, etc, rebooted, all worked fine.
However, when I deleted the added panel, it along with the default one
vanished. But when I "exited" Openbox to a terminal and ran
startx, Openbox along with the default panel came back.  However, since
I only run Openbox and not a desktop, to have lxpanel start when
Openbox does, I must run 'lxpanel &' it in a file 'autostart'
in .conf/openbox/ in my home directory.  Maybe, you doing the same
thing might be a fix for your problem.

B

Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 10/21/2017 01:28 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:31:14 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
>  wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  [big snip]
>>>
>>> Thank you for your input.
>>> No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was
>>> completely gone.
>>> Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.
>>>
>>> What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to
>>> default one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some icons
>>> on the newly added panel also disappears. AND I can not delete the
>>> newly added panel.
>>>
>>> What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time
>>> not to mess with desktop panel.
>>> This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.
>>>
>>> Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk top.
>>>
>>
>> I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess this
>> is Debian Stretch specific problem.
> 
> Have you checked LXDE's site for this problem or posted a query about
> it to their mailing list, etc?
> 
> I've been testing Stretch 64-bit in VirtualBox, but only with Openbox,
> LXDE's default window manager, that is, no desktop environment
> installed, and I don't experience this problem.
> 
> Check in your user home directory for .config/lxpanel/default/panels
> and see what's listed.
> 
> FYI:  I'm using sysvinit as init for this test install, but have not
> removed any systemd stuff.  Could make a difference.  Who knows?
> 
> B
> 

I have posted in LXDE forum as well but I haven't got any useful response.

I don't see .config/lxpanel/default/panels
All I got is

/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels

and I really don't know what to look for.

M.W.C.

Release Key and Keyrings

[Josh Webb]

Hello. I am having a very difficult time getting the repositories to
work properly or even at all. It tells me that there is no release file
and that the package cannot perform its functions. Enclosed is an
attachment that gives some examples of my problems. Can you please help
me??

Joshua 

release file not working.odt
Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text

Re: Firefox Future and Config [WAS: Re: Password managers [WAS: Re: when do I get a browsere that will do internet purchases?]]

[Garreau, Alexandre]

On 20/10/2017 at 18:22, The Wanderer wrote:
> (Please learn to quote properly. Failure to quote at all is arguably
> even worse than top-posting.)

Sorry, when I’m answering to all or the main part of a message
completely I find it clearer to try to begin answering with a sole mail,
but thank for the remind of the public convention

> simply because the stress of knowing that I'm going to be left behind
> anyway is not good for my psychological health.

I understand quite well :/ happens often for me…

> Plus, part of the reason why Mozilla has decided to drop XUL support
> (part and parcel of the WebExtensions move) is that they find that the
> work involved in maintaining it and keeping up further development based
> on it is unsustainable - and that's Mozilla, which if I'm not mistaken
> is a much larger and better-funded organization than Debian is.

Damn, Firefox is really that kind of gigantic never-stable software
that’s horrible for that kind of thing (recall me the concept forged by
some french librist about “liberator software”, complementar to the
“free software” concept but about sociomaterial constraints limiting
material freedom of the users), quite the opposite of software such as
TeX and their symbolic tangential versionning… Maybe it is even
intrinsic to the web…

Re: [debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Ricardo Ramos]

Sim Fred,

É isso mesmo que eu me referia, um repositório de programas não livres e
que não estão no repositório central do Debian, me refiro a um centro que
permita encontrar programas não livres e extras, mas obrigado pela
correção, usei os termos errados e posso ter passado a mensagem errada.

Um abraço,

A Sex, 20 de out de 2017, 22:28, Fred Maranhão 
escreveu:

> 2017-10-20 17:01 GMT-03:00 Ricardo Ramos :
> > Boas,
> >
> > Que eu saiba não existe nenhum repositório central para o Debian tal
> como o
> > que existe para o openSuse.
>
> isto é um repositório central:
>
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/
>
> já vem configurado quando você instala o debian. fica com
> /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> talvez você queira dizer que não existe nenhum repositório central
> para programas não-livres, ou para programas livres empacotados sem as
> verificações que o processo debian exige.
>
> >
> > O que voce pode fazer é ir procurando por repositorios feitos pelos
> > desenvolvedores e repositorios que oferecem vários programas "diversos".
> >
> > Caso descubra qualquer coisa não hesite em avisar para o pessoal ;)
> >
> > Um abraço,
> >
> > Em sex, 20 de out de 2017 às 19:51, Rodolfo 
> escreveu:
> >
> > Ahhh, foi mal, entendi outra coisa :D Mandei um e-mail pro criador desse
> > pacote perguntando se esse pacote está em algum repositório, se ele me
> > responder eu te passo. Até :D Em 20 de outubro de 2017 14:46, Gilberto F
> da
> > Silva  escreveu:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 02:22:54PM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
> >
> > O apt-cache search faz a pesquisa nos pacotes indexados após o apt-get
> > update, se não está aparecendo é porque os repositórios que você possui
> não
> > contém esse pacote, até o momento. O que você precisa fazer é adicionar o
> > repositório que possui esse pacote ou compilar o fonte do mesmo e
> instalar
> > manualmente.
> >
> > Entendi. A pergunta é justamente se há uma maneira fácil de encontrar os
> > repositórios para o Debian. Por meio do duckduckgo eu já encontrei e
> > adicionei alguns como o repositório para instalar o seamonkey. No
> openSUSE
> > há uma página pela qual você encontra os repositórios a partir do nome do
> > programa (https://software.opensuse.org/package/flash-player). Queria
> saber
> > se há algo nesse estilo para o Debian. -- Gilberto F da Silva -
> > gfs1...@mandic.com.br - ICQ 136.782.571 Stela dato:2.458.047,319 Loka
> > tempo:2017-10-20 16:39:36 Vendredo
>
> --

Ricardo Ramos
Tel: +244 927 953 770
Email: cesar.ricki...@gmail.com
Website: www.rickinho.com
Técnico de Informática

Re: Firefox Future and Config [WAS: Re: Password managers [WAS: Re: when do I get a browsere that will do internet purchases?]]

[The Wanderer]

(Please learn to quote properly. Failure to quote at all is arguably
even worse than top-posting.)

On 2017-10-20 at 18:07, Garreau, Alexandre wrote:

> Wait, do you mean overriding password manager, and TreeStyleTabs
> will certainly and definitely stop to work?

I don't know about TreeStyleTabs. I recall hearing that a solution was
in place for at least some vertical-tabs extensions, but I have not been
following WebExtensions progress closely, simply because the stress of
knowing that I'm going to be left behind anyway is not good for my
psychological health.

The other I don't know about, but I wouldn't be terribly confident about
it. Check with the developers of the extension(s) you're concerned
about; if they'll be supported as WebExtensions, the developers will
probably already have made releases which include that support.

> Would it be realistic to find some way to make Debian maintain
> patches/a fork (or package GNU IceCat and work with them?

Not really. A proper fork of a project the size of Firefox is a MAJOR
project, particularly if you aren't going to be able to draw on
importing upstream's work anymore (because they're rewriting their base
to the point where the patches they write won't be applicable).

Plus, part of the reason why Mozilla has decided to drop XUL support
(part and parcel of the WebExtensions move) is that they find that the
work involved in maintaining it and keeping up further development based
on it is unsustainable - and that's Mozilla, which if I'm not mistaken
is a much larger and better-funded organization than Debian is.

It would not be completely impossible for a volunteer-basis organization
to come together and pick up the work and contribute funds to pay for
the infrastructure and so forth, but as it hasn't really happened in all
these years of Mozilla, the odds of it happening now aren't great either.

> why isn’t any fork packaged into Debian?

As I understand it, because that would mean having to support two very
similar codebases for security patches, which is double the work for the
security team and for relatively little return.

Beyond that, probably also people haven't been coming out of the
woodwork to volunteer to package them.

The former concern may be less significant in the future if Firefox
diverges far enough from the XUL codebase of the forks that there isn't
really much duplication, but even if so, that doesn't guarantee that the
security team will be willing to accept having both.

> ’cause Firefox isn’t known to be that cool for their decisions) that
> could still do that? Possibly still supporting XUL plus WebExtensions
> of course,

As above, this would quickly become unmaintainable in the absence of a
much larger outpouring of sustained, skilled volunteer effort than is
likely to occur.

Even if such a volunteer work were to get going, it would be better to
have it be independent of Debian, for a variety of reasons. (And basing
it on one of the existing forks would probably be a good idea, if only
because they probably already have some of that volunteer developer
base.)

> but also maybe some extended version of WebExtensions that allow this
> kind of stuff?

About the closest thing I can think of to this would be something akin
to what the recent Firefox versions have had: supporting both
WebExtensions and XUL extensions side-by-side, and also supporting
"hybrid" extensions (one type embedded inside the other) which can talk
to both APIs to some degree.

Firefox only supported those for transitional purposes, but it might not
be impossible to keep them around as a thing of their own - although the
effort required to do so, particularly long-term, would probably be
prohibitive.

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Firefox Future and Config [WAS: Re: Password managers [WAS: Re: when do I get a browsere that will do internet purchases?]]

[Garreau, Alexandre]

Wait, do you mean overriding password manager, and TreeStyleTabs will
certainly and definitely stop to work?

Would it be realistic to find some way to make Debian maintain patches/a
fork (or package GNU IceCat and work with them? why isn’t any fork
packaged into Debian? ’cause Firefox isn’t known to be that cool for
their decisions) that could still do that? Possibly still supporting XUL
plus WebExtensions of course, but also maybe some extended version of
WebExtensions that allow this kind of stuff?

Re: [debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Fred Maranhão]

2017-10-20 17:01 GMT-03:00 Ricardo Ramos :
> Boas,
>
> Que eu saiba não existe nenhum repositório central para o Debian tal como o
> que existe para o openSuse.

isto é um repositório central:

http://ftp.debian.org/debian/

já vem configurado quando você instala o debian. fica com /etc/apt/sources.list

talvez você queira dizer que não existe nenhum repositório central
para programas não-livres, ou para programas livres empacotados sem as
verificações que o processo debian exige.

>
> O que voce pode fazer é ir procurando por repositorios feitos pelos
> desenvolvedores e repositorios que oferecem vários programas "diversos".
>
> Caso descubra qualquer coisa não hesite em avisar para o pessoal ;)
>
> Um abraço,
>
> Em sex, 20 de out de 2017 às 19:51, Rodolfo  escreveu:
>
> Ahhh, foi mal, entendi outra coisa :D Mandei um e-mail pro criador desse
> pacote perguntando se esse pacote está em algum repositório, se ele me
> responder eu te passo. Até :D Em 20 de outubro de 2017 14:46, Gilberto F da
> Silva  escreveu:
>
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 02:22:54PM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
>
> O apt-cache search faz a pesquisa nos pacotes indexados após o apt-get
> update, se não está aparecendo é porque os repositórios que você possui não
> contém esse pacote, até o momento. O que você precisa fazer é adicionar o
> repositório que possui esse pacote ou compilar o fonte do mesmo e instalar
> manualmente.
>
> Entendi. A pergunta é justamente se há uma maneira fácil de encontrar os
> repositórios para o Debian. Por meio do duckduckgo eu já encontrei e
> adicionei alguns como o repositório para instalar o seamonkey. No openSUSE
> há uma página pela qual você encontra os repositórios a partir do nome do
> programa (https://software.opensuse.org/package/flash-player). Queria saber
> se há algo nesse estilo para o Debian. -- Gilberto F da Silva -
> gfs1...@mandic.com.br - ICQ 136.782.571 Stela dato:2.458.047,319 Loka
> tempo:2017-10-20 16:39:36 Vendredo

Re: Can imagemagick really be safely purged or removed?

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Celejar wrote on 10/20/17 19:05:
> Thanks. Okay, I did that, and I was then able to remove imagemagick, but
only
> if imagemagick:i386 is installed instead - and that's also marked as a
> dummy package that can be safely removed or purged.
> 
> At this point:
> 
> ~$ aptitude search '~iimagemagick'
> idA imagemagick:i386   - 
> image manipulation programs -- binaries  
> i A imagemagick-6-common   - 
> image manipulation programs -- infrastructure
> i   imagemagick-6.q16  - 
> image manipulation programs -- quantum depth Q16
> 
> Celejar
> 
> 
Package imagemagick:i386 is to be replaced by imagemagick-6.q16:i386.
Try to install that.

Regards,
jvp.

Re: problème d'url avec apache2

[Pierre Meurisse]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 05:37:43PM +0200, bernard.schoenac...@free.fr wrote:
> bonjour,
> 
> j'essaye de trouver une solution pour un problème simple lorsque je tape:
> 
> http://www.$mydomain.tld/directory
> 
> il me réécrit :
> http://www.$mydomain.tlddirectory
> 
> et je n'ai rien fait de violent mais comment retomber sur ses pieds?
> 

Peut-être :

http://www.`echo $mydomain`.tld/directory   ?

slt

-- 
Pierre Meurisse

Can you help me?

[Paul Harold]

Hi there,

My name is Paul Harold and I've just designed an infographic exploring the War 
on Drugs. The infographic argues the War on Drugs is ineffective. The 
infographic also explains the civil and human rights implications of the War on 
Drugs.

You can find my infographic on the War on Drugs here: 
http://www.oceanrecoverycentre.com/drugs/why-the-war-on-drugs-has-failed/

When I was researching the infographic, I noticed you link to 
www.aclu.org/echelonwatch/index.html from this page on your website: 
www.lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/02/msg01247.html

Since my infographic is also human rights-based, could I ask you to update this 
page on your website to also link to my infographic?

I sincerely thank you if this is possible. I believe not enough is known about 
the War on Drugs amongst the general public, and adding this link will serve to 
increase awareness about this important issue.

Alternative and if you can't add the link to the above web page, could I ask if 
you can embed the infographic on your blog?

As a professional blogger, I'd be happy to write the introduction to the 
infographic that will sit on your blog. This will save you a lot of time, as 
I'm sure you would have to conduct your own research in order to write the 
infographic introductory text.

If this is possible, reply to this email and I'll get about writing the 
introduction to go with the infographic ASAP.

Many thanks,

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Re: Password managers [WAS: Re: when do I get a browsere that will do internet purchases?]

[The Wanderer]

On 2017-10-20 at 15:46, Garreau, Alexandre wrote:

> Maybe these extensions will be remade and repackaged with
> web-extensions then (afaik it’s a good move, yet breaking all the old
> apps forever is bad, they should re-integrate it after I while I’d
> personally prefer).
> 
> Waiting for this, XUL extensions I install through Debian on stable
> are perfectly working (maybe if they, dunno, keep easy for distros
> like debian to patch firefox in order to keep XUL support some time
> that’d help?), so that’s probably for a too recent, or even future,
> version that XUL doesn’t work anymore…

It will happen with Firefox 57, which I believe was just released, or
ESR 59, which is due out along with Firefox 59 - in other words, if I'm
not mistaken, probably in January.

Past that point, your only options are:

* Find (and/or make) an extension which does what you need in a way that
is compatible with WebExtensions. In some cases - most prominently,
anything that needs to modify the Firefox UI - this will not happen; the
Mozilla developers explicitly do not want to support doing that.

* Switch to one of the Firefox forks; Waterfox and Pale Moon are the two
best-spoken-of that I know of, and of course there's always still
Seamonkey (although that diverged far enough back that I'd be surprised
if many modern pre-WebExtensions Firefox extensions were still
compatible with it out-of-the-box).

* Stick with ESR52, avoiding upgrades, until some better solution
presents itself - however many years that takes.

For myself, unless Debian decides to start packaging one of the forks
which retains compatibility with the "long tail" of extensions, I will
be taking option three. (At least three of the addons which I consider
non-negotiably critical explicitly need to perform UI modification as
part of the features for which I want them, and at least two of them are
entirely unmaintained except by me.)

-- 
   The Wanderer

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw



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Re: Equipo lento al copiar [ERA:Porque sera]

[Esteban Monge]

El 2017-10-20 12:34, JAP escribió:
> El 20/10/17 a las 11:31, JAP escribió:
>> El 20/10/17 a las 11:10, Sandy escribió:
>>> Pues comunidad debian desde que uso debian que por cierto lo empeze a usar 
>>> con debian 8 , me sucede algo inusual , pues es que cuando decido hacer 
>>> copia de algo me pone la makina lenta en el sentido: siguiente
>>>
>>> si monto una imagen .iso y copio su contenido a una USB o HDD externo me 
>>> pone la maquina super lenta como si estuviera usando todos los nucleos del 
>>> micro y toda la ram , bueno me para la musica y se me keda en pausa en 
>>> breve tiempo , lo mismo me sucede el debian 9 pero esta ves la pone lenta 
>>> cuando copia el principio ya despues se le quita
>>> ALguien le ha sucedido eso o sabe que pudiera ser
>>>
>>
>> Sandy, bienvenida a la comunidad de usuarios.
>>
>> Sé más específica:
>> ¿Qué versión de Debian usas: Jessie, Stretch o Buster?
>> ¿Qué equipos tienes, 32 o 64 bits?
>> ¿Qué capacidad tiene tu máquina: velocidad y RAM?
>>
>> Sé un poco más clara de lo que estás haciendo.
>>
>> Y por favor, escribe en castellano si los "ke".
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
>>
>> JAP
> 
> 
> Reenvío a la lista
> 
> Fecha: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:36:19 -0400
> De: Sandy 
> A: javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com
> 
> ahh men mira me paso con jessie y ahora con stretch, teniendo 8gb de
> ram y un i3 de 3ra G lo hacia y ahora tambien con el 9 el micro
> soporta las dos arquitectura 64 y 32bit

Como estas haciendo la copia? Mediante alguna herramienta gráfica,
Nautilus, Konqueror, o mediante la interfaz de texto.

A mi me sucede algo  muy particular, casi no uso entorno gráfico para
ese tipo de operaciones, utilizo enlightenment 0.21, y para copiar uso
la línea de comandos, un simple "cp".

La copia no me pega la máquina, pero se realiza muy lento, debo utilizar
el comando sync para hacer la copia, sync fuerza al sistema operativo a
que le de prioridad a las operaciones de entrada y salida y general
también alta utilización de CPU. El sistema operativo normalmente
prioriza el cp muy bajo y por ello dura tanto, es decir hace la copia de
manera asincrónica.

Por ahí leí que varias herramientas gráficas utilizan la técnica
sincrónica de manera que se da mas prioridad a la copia y esto generaría
tu problema de cargas, haz la prueba haciendo un cp vía línea de
comandos vs una copia gráfica y monitoriza el CPU, así puedes determinar
si es algo de la herramienta gráfica o algo del sistema operativo.

Re: Performance RAID instable

[Pascal Hambourg]

Le 20/10/2017 à 09:10, Seb a écrit :



Pourquoi 4 Go ? C'est un peu arbitraire.
As-tu essayé d'autres valeurs entre 4 et 8 Go ?


Il me semble que le PAE permet au noyau d'utiliser la RAM au-delà de 4 Go:


Cette formulation est ambiguë.

PAE étend l'espace d'adressage en mémoire physique des processeurs 32 
bits de 4 Gio à 64 Gio. Mais cet espace ne contient pas que la RAM 
système. Il contient aussi les plages d'adresses des mémoires non 
volatiles du firmware de la carte mère et des périphériques internes 
comme la carte graphique, de la mémoire des mêmes périphériques 
permettant au système de transférer des données avec eux...


Le pseudo-fichier /proc/iomem recense les plages utilisées de l'espace 
mémoire physique.


Un système d'exploitation 32 bits sans PAE n'étant pas capable 
d'adresser au-delà de 4 Gio, toutes les plages autres que la RAM système 
doivent être accessibles à des adresses en-deça de cette limite. La 
plage d'adresse réservée aux périphériques est parfois appelée "PCI 
hole". Cela implique que la quantité de RAM système effectivement 
accessible à des adresses en-deça de 4 Gio sera nécessairement 
inférieure à 4 Gio, typiquement de l'ordre de 3,5 Go. Il ne faut pas 
confondre cette diminution avec la partie de la RAM système qui est 
réservée au GPU intégré.


La partie de la RAM système qui ne peut être adressée dans la plage 
en-deçà de 4 Gio est accessible à des adresses au-delà de 4 Gio donc 
uniquement par un système 32 bits avec PAE ou 64 bits.


Si par "au-delà de 4 Gio" tu voulais parler des adresses, alors oui. 
Mais si tu voulais parler de la quantité, alors non, la limite est plus 
basse notamment à cause du "PCI hole". Utiliser 4 Gio de RAM avec un 
système 32 bits requiert PAE.


Je me suis dit que le noyau devait avoir des fonctions pour des RAM d'au 
plus 4 Go, et des astuces en plus pour les RAM au-delà, et que ce sont 
ces dernières qui sont actuellement buguées. Comme « ça marche », 
l'hypothèse a l'air correcte. Mais effectivement, non, je n'ai pas tenté 
6 Go. Je ne vois pas de raison pour que ça marche.


PAE n'est pas juste une fonction qu'on active uniquement pour accéder 
aux adresses mémoire au-delà de 4 Gio. C'est une réorganisation 
permanente de la façon d'accéder à la mémoire physique. Avec un noyau 
PAE, les mécanismes de PAE sont à l'oeuvre quelle que soit la quantité 
de mémoire utilisable ou utilisée.


Bref, tout ça pour dire que la limite de 4 Gio de RAM que tu as fixée 
est arbitraire du point de vue de PAE car elle est déjà supérieure à la 
quantité utilisable sans PAE.


Par contre je me rappelle un commentaire de Linus Torvalds il y a déjà 
fort longtemps disant en substance qu'au-delà de 8 Gio de RAM, il valait 
mieux utiliser un noyau 64 bits car la gestion d'une telle quantité de 
mémoire par un noyau 32 bits avec PAE risquait d'être moins performante. 
Il ne faut pas oublier que même avec PAE l'espace d'adressage en mémoire 
virtuelle reste limité à 4 Gio, et l'espace réservé au noyau dans 
celui-ci à 1 Gio (3 Gio pour le processus).

Re: [debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Ricardo Ramos]

Boas,

Que eu saiba não existe nenhum repositório central para o Debian tal 
como o que existe para o openSuse.


O que voce pode fazer é ir procurando por repositorios feitos pelos 
desenvolvedores e repositorios que oferecem vários programas 
"diversos".


Caso descubra qualquer coisa não hesite em avisar para o pessoal ;)

Um abraço,

Em sex, 20 de out de 2017 às 19:51, Rodolfo  
escreveu:

Ahhh, foi mal, entendi outra coisa :D

Mandei um e-mail pro criador desse pacote perguntando se esse pacote
está em algum repositório, se ele me responder eu te passo.

Até :D

Em 20 de outubro de 2017 14:46, Gilberto F da Silva
 escreveu:

 On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 02:22:54PM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
 O apt-cache search faz a pesquisa nos pacotes indexados após o 
apt-get
 update, se não está aparecendo é porque os repositórios que 
você
 possui não contém esse pacote, até o momento. O que você 
precisa fazer
 é adicionar o repositório que possui esse pacote ou compilar o 
fonte

 do mesmo e instalar manualmente.


   Entendi.  A pergunta é justamente se há uma maneira fácil de
   encontrar os repositórios para o Debian.  Por meio do duckduckgo 
eu
   já encontrei e adicionei alguns como o repositório para 
instalar o

   seamonkey.

   No openSUSE há uma página pela qual você encontra os 
repositórios a

   partir do nome do programa
   (https://software.opensuse.org/package/flash-player). Queria saber
   se há algo nesse estilo para o Debian.

 --

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Re: Password managers [WAS: Re: when do I get a browsere that will do internet purchases?]

[Garreau, Alexandre]

Maybe these extensions will be remade and repackaged with web-extensions
then (afaik it’s a good move, yet breaking all the old apps forever is
bad, they should re-integrate it after I while I’d personally prefer).

Waiting for this, XUL extensions I install through Debian on stable are
perfectly working (maybe if they, dunno, keep easy for distros like
debian to patch firefox in order to keep XUL support some time that’d
help?), so that’s probably for a too recent, or even future, version
that XUL doesn’t work anymore…

Re: (deb-cat) Buidar una bitacola de Systemd

[Julio Amorós]

El dia 19 d’octubre de 2017 a les 12:16, Narcis Garcia <
debianli...@actiu.net> ha escrit:

> $ man journalctl
>
> OPTIONS
> -f, --follow
> Show only the most recent journal entries, and continuously print new
> entries as they are appended to the journal.
>

En efecte, l'ordre:

*journalctl -f*

substitueix

*tail -f /var/log/messages*





>
>
>
>
> __
> I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
> masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
> should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
> El 19/10/17 a les 11:20, Jordi Funollet ha escrit:
> > No et tindries prou amb un 'journalctl -f' ?
> >
> > I crec que tu ja ho saps i que ho fas conscientment, però per a qui
> > estigui llegint: compte amb els 'sudo rm -rf' que més d'un ens hi hem
> > fet mal. El '-f' no cal excepte en ocasions molt especials. I
> > personalment intento fer 'sudo rm' en lloc de 'sudo rm -r', encara que
> > em calgui esborrar un parell de subdirectoris a mà.
> > --
> > Jordi Funollet Pujol
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/jordifunollet
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017, at 08:34 PM, Narcis Garcia wrote:
> >> Acabo de canviar una configuració i vull veure només les errades o
> >> advertències a partir de què reinicii un servei.
> >>
> >> Algú sap com fer l'equivalent a això:
> >> $ sudo rm -fr /var/log/gdm/*
> >> però amb Systemd / journalctl ?
> >>
> >> Gràcies.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> __
> >> I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
> >> masked enough at this mail public archive. Public archive administrator
> >> should fix this against automated addresses collectors.
> >>
> >
>
>


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puerta de atrás”*
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Re: Rendimiento Debian o VPS

[Oswaldo Franco]

Hola Esteban,

Muchas gracias por tus palabras. Ya he ido anotando todos los comentarios
de l@s lister@s para ir revisando poco a poco.

Saludos.

El 20 de octubre de 2017, 13:22, Esteban Monge 
escribió:

> El 2017-10-20 10:22, Oswaldo Franco escribió:
> > Hola Ricardo,
> >
> > Excelente información, no lo sabía. Muchas gracias.
> >
> > Saludos.
> >
> > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 11:15, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez <
> > rmalva...@gnupanel.org> escribió:
> >
> >>
> >> Si en top apretas el 1 ves el consumo de CPU discriminado por nucleo.
> >>
> >> Saludos.
> >>
>
> Concuerdo con que debe identificar que le sucede a los procesos del
> sistema operativo, rápidamente con top te das cuenta de que pasa.
>
> Resulta de que yo estuve teniendo problemas de CPU hace poco con un VPS
> en Linode, de los que tienen dos cores y 4G de RAM... me causo mala
> impresión, ya que ese servidor raramente lo accesa alguien además de mi
> persona.
>
> Revisando en efecto encontré procesos del Apache y de PHP, el sitio lo
> tengo con dokuwiki, es demasiado liviano para que fuera algo relacionado
> a la utilización, siempre lo tengo actualizado, así que descarté el tema
> de un bug.
>
> Entonces toca barrer los logs, revisar los logs del apache es muy útil,
> a saber:
> /var/log/apache/error_log
> /var/log/apache/access_log
>
> En el primero no encontré errores, pero en el segundo encontré
> muuuchas consultas de diferentes IPs, resulta de que estaba
> sufriendo un ataque por bots haciendo DDOS, se logeaban a varias
> herramientas que tengo ahí, entre ellas el mencionado dokuwiki.
>
> Dokuwiki tiene un anti spam, pero no he visto que tenga un antibot.
>
> Así que busqué algo fuera de la aplicación, tal vez apache, pero no,
> tenía configurado fail2ban para evitar ataques por SSH, pero adicional a
> eso, y mejor aún, mas efectivo fue cambiar el puerto de SSH. Encontré
> que fail2ban tiene un anti bot... lo configuré y aunque si continuan los
> ataques y me llega un 90% menos alertas de CPU, si funciona, bloquea las
> IPs en el firewall.
>
> Entonces revisa bien logs y procesos... pensar que es un bug del
> software nunca es la primera opción, se debe pensar en que estoy
> haciendo mal o que no estoy haciendo bien. En mi caso fue dejar mi
> servidor como coladera, indefenso y a la buena fe de que la gente hace
> bots para chatear contigo en salas de sexo.
>
>
> >> > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 10:54, Oswaldo Franco
> >> >  escribió:
> >> > > Cuando uno el comando "top" en la consola, y monitoreo los procesos,
> >> > > aparecen procesos que dicen 50% de uso del CPU, esto quiere decir el
> >> uso
> >> > > total del CPU? Osea me explico como según tengo 1 procesador y 24
> >> núcleos,
> >> > > ese porcentaje es equivalente al CPU o a un núcleo?
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Por favor no hagas top posting. Gracias.
> >> >
> >> > Es el porcentaje de la CPU, la carga se reparte entro los diferentes
> >> > núcleos, prueba htop.  ¿Qué te muestra las cargas de los nucleos por
> >> > separado? ¿Hay algún núcleo al 100%?
> >> >
> >> > Insisto, un servicio mal configurado o una aplicación mal configurada
> >> > o mal echa, son capaces de consumir todos los recursos de un servidor.
> >> > Estas tirando de un ecommerce lo que implica utilizar una BD supongo
> >> > Mysql o MariaDB, otro punto a considerar si la BD no esta optimizada o
> >> > no.  Tienes demasiados vectores a considerar y creo que la
> >> > optimización de tus servicios es uno importante.  Ojo con Apache y las
> >> > peticiones.
> >> >
> >> > Suerte.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 8:03, Oswaldo Franco <
> >> franco.oswa...@gmail.com>
> >> > > escribió:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Hola Ricardo,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Si, yo mismo busqué la información sobre el procesador y pude notar
> >> sus
> >> > >> características.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Muchas gracias por tus comentarios y los de todos.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Saludos.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> El 19 de octubre de 2017, 17:48, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez
> >> > >>  escribió:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Por lo que dice acá
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> https://ark.intel.com/es/products/75791/Intel-Xeon-
> >> Processor-E5-2630L-v2-15M-Cache-2_40-GHz
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Deben ser dos micros de 6 cores con HT
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que si el proveedor le asigna los
> 24
> >> cores
> >> > >>> a todos los VPSs rinde menos
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> que si le asigna 4 cores a cada VPS.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Saludos.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > Desconozco sobre configuraciones de los distintos servicios,
> pero
> >> puedo
> >> > >>> > decir que la VPS tiene configurado un DNS, webserver, MySQL,
> >> ProFTPD,
> >> > >>> > SSH,
> >> > >>> > Postfix, entre otros servicios. La aplicación está en
> prestashop.
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > Pensaba que una VPS tenía recursos dedicados, pero lo que quiero
> >> saber
> >> > >>> > es
> 

Re: [debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Rodolfo]

Ahhh, foi mal, entendi outra coisa :D

Mandei um e-mail pro criador desse pacote perguntando se esse pacote
está em algum repositório, se ele me responder eu te passo.

Até :D

Em 20 de outubro de 2017 14:46, Gilberto F da Silva
 escreveu:
> On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 02:22:54PM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
>> O apt-cache search faz a pesquisa nos pacotes indexados após o apt-get
>> update, se não está aparecendo é porque os repositórios que você
>> possui não contém esse pacote, até o momento. O que você precisa fazer
>> é adicionar o repositório que possui esse pacote ou compilar o fonte
>> do mesmo e instalar manualmente.
>
>   Entendi.  A pergunta é justamente se há uma maneira fácil de
>   encontrar os repositórios para o Debian.  Por meio do duckduckgo eu
>   já encontrei e adicionei alguns como o repositório para instalar o
>   seamonkey.
>
>   No openSUSE há uma página pela qual você encontra os repositórios a
>   partir do nome do programa
>   (https://software.opensuse.org/package/flash-player). Queria saber
>   se há algo nesse estilo para o Debian.
>
> --
>
> Gilberto F da Silva - gfs1...@mandic.com.br - ICQ 136.782.571
> Stela dato:2.458.047,319  Loka tempo:2017-10-20 16:39:36 Vendredo
>

Re: thinkpad mute button not working since upgrade to stretch

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 10/20/2017 08:43 AM, Paul Seyfert wrote:

Hi,

On 20.10.2017 06:09, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 10/19/2017 03:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 10/19/2017 02:48 PM, Paul Seyfert wrote:

Hi,



Assuming I'm not the only thinkpad user, any others around who
encountered that problem and have already found a solution? Or tips for
how to get the mute button to work hardware-like again?



Paul, do you have "tpb" installed?  That's the package to install
thinkpad buttons.
I have it installed and can mute, etc. My thinkpad is running
Buster/Testing now and busy, but will check in Stretch sometime today.


I upgraded Jessie on this Thinkpad and the volume buttons are working fine.


Thanks for checking. I did not have have tpb installed.
Installing it didn't help though.

Alexandre's reply makes me wonder if my setup is wrong in another
place than the presence/absence of tpb.

Cheers,
Paul



I also install firmware-linux* and intel-microcode/amd64-microcode, plus 
if you search thinkpad you will find some packages too.

--
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Ubuntu 16.04 LTS - KDE Plasma 5.8.7 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda2
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: [debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Gilberto F da Silva]

On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 02:22:54PM -0400, Rodolfo wrote:
> O apt-cache search faz a pesquisa nos pacotes indexados após o apt-get
> update, se não está aparecendo é porque os repositórios que você
> possui não contém esse pacote, até o momento. O que você precisa fazer
> é adicionar o repositório que possui esse pacote ou compilar o fonte
> do mesmo e instalar manualmente.

  Entendi.  A pergunta é justamente se há uma maneira fácil de
  encontrar os repositórios para o Debian.  Por meio do duckduckgo eu
  já encontrei e adicionei alguns como o repositório para instalar o
  seamonkey. 

  No openSUSE há uma página pela qual você encontra os repositórios a
  partir do nome do programa
  (https://software.opensuse.org/package/flash-player). Queria saber
  se há algo nesse estilo para o Debian.
  
-- 

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Stela dato:2.458.047,319  Loka tempo:2017-10-20 16:39:36 Vendredo 



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Re: Equipo lento al copiar [ERA:Porque sera]

[JAP]

El 20/10/17 a las 11:31, JAP escribió:

El 20/10/17 a las 11:10, Sandy escribió:
Pues comunidad debian desde que uso debian que por cierto lo empeze a 
usar con debian 8 , me sucede algo inusual , pues es que cuando decido 
hacer copia de algo me pone la makina lenta en el sentido: siguiente


si monto una imagen .iso y copio su contenido a una USB o HDD externo 
me pone la maquina super lenta como si estuviera usando todos los 
nucleos del micro y toda la ram , bueno me para la musica y se me keda 
en pausa en breve tiempo , lo mismo me sucede el debian 9 pero esta 
ves la pone lenta cuando copia el principio ya despues se le quita

ALguien le ha sucedido eso o sabe que pudiera ser



Sandy, bienvenida a la comunidad de usuarios.

Sé más específica:
¿Qué versión de Debian usas: Jessie, Stretch o Buster?
¿Qué equipos tienes, 32 o 64 bits?
¿Qué capacidad tiene tu máquina: velocidad y RAM?

Sé un poco más clara de lo que estás haciendo.

Y por favor, escribe en castellano si los "ke".

https://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista

JAP



Reenvío a la lista

Fecha: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:36:19 -0400
De: Sandy 
A: javier.debian.bb...@gmail.com

ahh men mira me paso con jessie y ahora con stretch, teniendo 8gb de ram 
y un i3 de 3ra G lo hacia y ahora tambien con el 9 el micro soporta las 
dos arquitectura 64 y 32bit




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Re: [debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Rodolfo]

Nessa página tem o binário para Debian:
http://bigforth.sourceforge.net/#DOWNLOAD

Em 20 de outubro de 2017 14:17, Gilberto F da Silva
 escreveu:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:37:50PM -0200, Carlos Donizete Froes wrote:
>> Em dom, 2017-10-15 às 11:19 -0300, Leandro Moreira escreveu:
>> > Tenho um amigo que usa ubuntu Studio, mas.ele.quer.mudar para o Debian. 
>> > Ele é
>> > musico e usa as ferramenta do inibir Studio para gravar seu as música. 
>> > Existe
>> > alguma customização do Debian que possua as ferramentas de gravação que eu
>> > possa indicar para ele?
>>
>> Neste caso, adiciona o repositorio não oficial do Debian chamado "debian-
>> multimedia[1]".
>>
>> Nele tera os codecs e programas necessarios nas gravações de audio e 
>> video[2].
>
>   Quando eu não acho um programa no apt-cache search, qual a melhor
>   maneira de procurar por ele?  Eu queria instalar um programa chamado
>   bigforth mas nunca o encontro nos repositórios.
>
>
> --
>
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>

Re: [debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Rodolfo]

O apt-cache search faz a pesquisa nos pacotes indexados após o apt-get
update, se não está aparecendo é porque os repositórios que você
possui não contém esse pacote, até o momento. O que você precisa fazer
é adicionar o repositório que possui esse pacote ou compilar o fonte
do mesmo e instalar manualmente.

Abraços.

Em 20 de outubro de 2017 14:17, Gilberto F da Silva
 escreveu:
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:37:50PM -0200, Carlos Donizete Froes wrote:
>> Em dom, 2017-10-15 às 11:19 -0300, Leandro Moreira escreveu:
>> > Tenho um amigo que usa ubuntu Studio, mas.ele.quer.mudar para o Debian. 
>> > Ele é
>> > musico e usa as ferramenta do inibir Studio para gravar seu as música. 
>> > Existe
>> > alguma customização do Debian que possua as ferramentas de gravação que eu
>> > possa indicar para ele?
>>
>> Neste caso, adiciona o repositorio não oficial do Debian chamado "debian-
>> multimedia[1]".
>>
>> Nele tera os codecs e programas necessarios nas gravações de audio e 
>> video[2].
>
>   Quando eu não acho um programa no apt-cache search, qual a melhor
>   maneira de procurar por ele?  Eu queria instalar um programa chamado
>   bigforth mas nunca o encontro nos repositórios.
>
>
> --
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Re: Rendimiento Debian o VPS

[Esteban Monge]

El 2017-10-20 10:22, Oswaldo Franco escribió:
> Hola Ricardo,
> 
> Excelente información, no lo sabía. Muchas gracias.
> 
> Saludos.
> 
> El 20 de octubre de 2017, 11:15, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez <
> rmalva...@gnupanel.org> escribió:
> 
>>
>> Si en top apretas el 1 ves el consumo de CPU discriminado por nucleo.
>>
>> Saludos.
>>

Concuerdo con que debe identificar que le sucede a los procesos del
sistema operativo, rápidamente con top te das cuenta de que pasa.

Resulta de que yo estuve teniendo problemas de CPU hace poco con un VPS
en Linode, de los que tienen dos cores y 4G de RAM... me causo mala
impresión, ya que ese servidor raramente lo accesa alguien además de mi
persona.

Revisando en efecto encontré procesos del Apache y de PHP, el sitio lo
tengo con dokuwiki, es demasiado liviano para que fuera algo relacionado
a la utilización, siempre lo tengo actualizado, así que descarté el tema
de un bug.

Entonces toca barrer los logs, revisar los logs del apache es muy útil,
a saber:
/var/log/apache/error_log
/var/log/apache/access_log

En el primero no encontré errores, pero en el segundo encontré
muuuchas consultas de diferentes IPs, resulta de que estaba
sufriendo un ataque por bots haciendo DDOS, se logeaban a varias
herramientas que tengo ahí, entre ellas el mencionado dokuwiki.

Dokuwiki tiene un anti spam, pero no he visto que tenga un antibot.

Así que busqué algo fuera de la aplicación, tal vez apache, pero no,
tenía configurado fail2ban para evitar ataques por SSH, pero adicional a
eso, y mejor aún, mas efectivo fue cambiar el puerto de SSH. Encontré
que fail2ban tiene un anti bot... lo configuré y aunque si continuan los
ataques y me llega un 90% menos alertas de CPU, si funciona, bloquea las
IPs en el firewall.

Entonces revisa bien logs y procesos... pensar que es un bug del
software nunca es la primera opción, se debe pensar en que estoy
haciendo mal o que no estoy haciendo bien. En mi caso fue dejar mi
servidor como coladera, indefenso y a la buena fe de que la gente hace
bots para chatear contigo en salas de sexo.


>> > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 10:54, Oswaldo Franco
>> >  escribió:
>> > > Cuando uno el comando "top" en la consola, y monitoreo los procesos,
>> > > aparecen procesos que dicen 50% de uso del CPU, esto quiere decir el
>> uso
>> > > total del CPU? Osea me explico como según tengo 1 procesador y 24
>> núcleos,
>> > > ese porcentaje es equivalente al CPU o a un núcleo?
>> > >
>> >
>> > Por favor no hagas top posting. Gracias.
>> >
>> > Es el porcentaje de la CPU, la carga se reparte entro los diferentes
>> > núcleos, prueba htop.  ¿Qué te muestra las cargas de los nucleos por
>> > separado? ¿Hay algún núcleo al 100%?
>> >
>> > Insisto, un servicio mal configurado o una aplicación mal configurada
>> > o mal echa, son capaces de consumir todos los recursos de un servidor.
>> > Estas tirando de un ecommerce lo que implica utilizar una BD supongo
>> > Mysql o MariaDB, otro punto a considerar si la BD no esta optimizada o
>> > no.  Tienes demasiados vectores a considerar y creo que la
>> > optimización de tus servicios es uno importante.  Ojo con Apache y las
>> > peticiones.
>> >
>> > Suerte.
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 8:03, Oswaldo Franco <
>> franco.oswa...@gmail.com>
>> > > escribió:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hola Ricardo,
>> > >>
>> > >> Si, yo mismo busqué la información sobre el procesador y pude notar
>> sus
>> > >> características.
>> > >>
>> > >> Muchas gracias por tus comentarios y los de todos.
>> > >>
>> > >> Saludos.
>> > >>
>> > >> El 19 de octubre de 2017, 17:48, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez
>> > >>  escribió:
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Por lo que dice acá
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> https://ark.intel.com/es/products/75791/Intel-Xeon-
>> Processor-E5-2630L-v2-15M-Cache-2_40-GHz
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Deben ser dos micros de 6 cores con HT
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que si el proveedor le asigna los 24
>> cores
>> > >>> a todos los VPSs rinde menos
>> > >>>
>> > >>> que si le asigna 4 cores a cada VPS.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Saludos.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > Desconozco sobre configuraciones de los distintos servicios, pero
>> puedo
>> > >>> > decir que la VPS tiene configurado un DNS, webserver, MySQL,
>> ProFTPD,
>> > >>> > SSH,
>> > >>> > Postfix, entre otros servicios. La aplicación está en prestashop.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Pensaba que una VPS tenía recursos dedicados, pero lo que quiero
>> saber
>> > >>> > es
>> > >>> > si las características de mi VPS pueden influir en la lentitud de
>> mi
>> > >>> > web o
>> > >>> > pueda ser un problema de configuración.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Saludos y gracias.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 14:58, Felix Perez
>> > >>> > 
>> > >>> > escribió:
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 13:19, Oswaldo Franco
>> > >>> > >  escribió:
>> > >>> > > > Hola, un saludo para 

[debian-users-pt] Descobrir repositórios

[Gilberto F da Silva]

On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 12:37:50PM -0200, Carlos Donizete Froes wrote:
> Em dom, 2017-10-15 às 11:19 -0300, Leandro Moreira escreveu:
> > Tenho um amigo que usa ubuntu Studio, mas.ele.quer.mudar para o Debian. Ele 
> > é
> > musico e usa as ferramenta do inibir Studio para gravar seu as música. 
> > Existe
> > alguma customização do Debian que possua as ferramentas de gravação que eu
> > possa indicar para ele?
> 
> Neste caso, adiciona o repositorio não oficial do Debian chamado "debian-
> multimedia[1]".
> 
> Nele tera os codecs e programas necessarios nas gravações de audio e video[2].

  Quando eu não acho um programa no apt-cache search, qual a melhor
  maneira de procurar por ele?  Eu queria instalar um programa chamado
  bigforth mas nunca o encontro nos repositórios.
  

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problema realtek debian 9

[Alejandro García]

Ante todo un cordial saludo.

 Tengo un problema con mi tarjeta de red de realtek, la cual me muestra
las wifi o wireless cercanas pero cuando trato de conectar nunca lo logra
desactivando la tarjeta de red y reactivandose de nuevo muestro salidas de
dmesg, lspci, lsusb.

# dmesg | grep wifi

[   15.167175] usb 1-4: rtl8xxxu: Loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8723bu_nic.bin
[   15.555723] usb 1-4: firmware: direct-loading firmware
rtlwifi/rtl8723bu_nic.bin
[ 1034.014481] usb 1-4: rtl8xxxu: Loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8723bu_nic.bin
[ 1034.022958] usb 1-4: firmware: direct-loading firmware
rtlwifi/rtl8723bu_nic.bin

# lsusb

Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 5986:053a Acer, Inc
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0bda:b720 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 13fe:4231 Kingston Technology Company Inc.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

# lspci

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register (rev 35)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium
Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 35)
00:13.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SATA Controller (rev 35)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series USB xHCI Controller (rev 35)
00:1a.0 Encryption controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium
Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series Trusted Execution Engine (rev 35)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series High Definition Audio Controller (rev 35)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #1 (rev 35)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCI Express Port #2 (rev 35)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series PCU (rev 35)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx SMBus Controller (rev 35)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c)

Al parece este laptop o notebook tiene 3 chip realtek, uno para bluetooth
(el cual ya logré que funcionara correctamente, uno para la red lan el cual
funciono desde el momento de instalación perfectamente y aun sigue
funcionando sin problemas con el driver que se auto instalo y por ultimo de
la wifi o wireless el cual se identifica de la misma manera como el de
bluetooth el cual es:

rtl8723bu

Cuando hago esto para bluetooth en dmesg observo esto:

# dmesg | grep bluetooth

[   16.941203] bluetooth hci0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
rtl_bt/rtl8723b_config.bin
[   16.984507] bluetooth hci0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
rtl_bt/rtl8723b_fw.bin
[ 1033.964165] bluetooth hci0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
rtl_bt/rtl8723b_config.bin
[ 1033.985173] bluetooth hci0: firmware: direct-loading firmware
rtl_bt/rtl8723b_fw.bin

La laptop (notebook) es una vit p1420.

Necesito poder conectarme a redes wifi o wireless para poder trabajar en
ella trabajo mucho conectado en red.

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Re: Re: System becomes inaccessible after upgrade of libgl1-mesa-glx to version 17.2.2-1

[Simon Pepping]

> > The solution seems simple:
> >
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   libglvnd0-nvidia
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >   libglvnd0"
> >
> > But how do you do that with an inaccessible system? The system can be
> > booted in recovery mode, and the change can be made there. But the
> > network is not yet up and running.

> You can do the following (assuming you use grub):
> Change the kernel command line and append
> systemd.unit=multi-user.target

> This will boot (one-time) into a multi-user system (including network)
> but not start the display manager.

Thanks, that is a useful suggestion. These systemd targets open new
possibilities, which I was not aware of.

Re: [OT] Breaking WPA2 by forcing nonce reuse

[Dan Purgert]

Ron Leach wrote:
> On 19/10/2017 16:56, Dan Purgert wrote:
>> Brian wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Isn't it sufficient to fix one end of the
>>> connection to dispose of the vulnerability?
>>>
>>
>> KRACK is an attack against the *client* side.  It MUST (rfc2119) be that
>> device that is patched against the attack.
>>
>
> Dan, I'm not sure it's that simple, either.
> [...]
>
> Your advice is extremely close, and very pertinent, but *both* clients 
> need to be fixed.  

I read his comment as "one side" being the AP side in the AP/Client
relationship ... not that you'd only need to patch "one client".

To be as clear as possible -- Any and all client devices MUST (rfc2119)
be patched to be secure from the KRACK attack.

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Re: Can imagemagick really be safely purged or removed?

[Celejar]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:21:24 +0200
Jörg-Volker Peetz  wrote:

> Take a look which imagemagick packages are installed:
> 
> $ aptitude search '~iimagemagick'
> 
> Probably there is a line beginning with
> 
> i A  imagemagick-6.q16
> 
> which shall replace imagemagick. Also see the dependencies of package 
> imagemagick:
> 
> $ dpkg -s imagemagick
> 
> So before purging imagemagick you have to
> 
> $ aptitude unmarkauto imagemagick-6.q16

Thanks. Okay, I did that, and I was then able to remove imagemagick, but only
if imagemagick:i386 is installed instead - and that's also marked as a
dummy package that can be safely removed or purged.

At this point:

~$ aptitude search '~iimagemagick'
idA imagemagick:i386   - image 
manipulation programs -- binaries  
i A imagemagick-6-common   - image 
manipulation programs -- infrastructure
i   imagemagick-6.q16  - image 
manipulation programs -- quantum depth Q16

Celejar

Re: [OT] Breaking WPA2 by forcing nonce reuse

[tv.deb...@googlemail.com]

On 20/10/2017 21:09, Brad Rogers wrote:

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:05:34 +0530
"tv.deb...@googlemail.com"  wrote:

Hello tv.deb...@googlemail.com,


I sent that a day ago, but for some reason it didn't make it to the
list:


You're using google.  It's well known that they don't send your own list
posts back to you.



Sometime do, sometime don't, hard to know when a message doesn't show 
up, next time I'll try digging it from the archives.

Sorry for the noise then.

Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:31:14 +0900 A_Man_Without_Clue
 wrote:

> 
> 
> On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >  [big snip]
> > 
> > Thank you for your input.
> > No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was
> > completely gone.
> > Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.
> > 
> > What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to
> > default one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some icons
> > on the newly added panel also disappears. AND I can not delete the
> > newly added panel.
> > 
> > What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time
> > not to mess with desktop panel.
> > This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.
> > 
> > Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk top.
> > 
> 
> I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess this
> is Debian Stretch specific problem.

Have you checked LXDE's site for this problem or posted a query about
it to their mailing list, etc?

I've been testing Stretch 64-bit in VirtualBox, but only with Openbox,
LXDE's default window manager, that is, no desktop environment
installed, and I don't experience this problem.

Check in your user home directory for .config/lxpanel/default/panels
and see what's listed.

FYI:  I'm using sysvinit as init for this test install, but have not
removed any systemd stuff.  Could make a difference.  Who knows?

B

Re: Ehi, un uomo così attraente, di certo non può rifiutare un appuntamento Aurora

[SARACRUZ1978]

Chatos
 

Citando yann.labord...@wanadoo.fr:


Mi propongo come candidata :) http://bit.ly/2go2832


 

Re: Porque sera

[martin ayos]

El 20 de octubre de 2017, 11:10, Sandy  escribió:
>
> Pues comunidad debian desde que uso debian que por cierto lo empeze a usar 
> con debian 8 , me sucede algo inusual , pues es que cuando decido hacer copia 
> de algo me pone la makina lenta en el sentido: siguiente
>
> si monto una imagen .iso y copio su contenido a una USB o HDD externo me pone 
> la maquina super lenta como si estuviera usando todos los nucleos del micro y 
> toda la ram , bueno me para la musica y se me keda en pausa en breve tiempo , 
> lo mismo me sucede el debian 9 pero esta ves la pone lenta cuando copia el 
> principio ya despues se le quita
> ALguien le ha sucedido eso o sabe que pudiera ser
>
> --
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> Sandy 
> Enviando desde Sylpheed GNU/LINUX
>
Hola. La imagen la montás en mnt? Probaste montándola en otro
directorio? Un abrazo.



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Re: Rendimiento Debian o VPS

[Oswaldo Franco]

Hola Ricardo,

Excelente información, no lo sabía. Muchas gracias.

Saludos.

El 20 de octubre de 2017, 11:15, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez <
rmalva...@gnupanel.org> escribió:

>
> Si en top apretas el 1 ves el consumo de CPU discriminado por nucleo.
>
> Saludos.
>
> > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 10:54, Oswaldo Franco
> >  escribió:
> > > Cuando uno el comando "top" en la consola, y monitoreo los procesos,
> > > aparecen procesos que dicen 50% de uso del CPU, esto quiere decir el
> uso
> > > total del CPU? Osea me explico como según tengo 1 procesador y 24
> núcleos,
> > > ese porcentaje es equivalente al CPU o a un núcleo?
> > >
> >
> > Por favor no hagas top posting. Gracias.
> >
> > Es el porcentaje de la CPU, la carga se reparte entro los diferentes
> > núcleos, prueba htop.  ¿Qué te muestra las cargas de los nucleos por
> > separado? ¿Hay algún núcleo al 100%?
> >
> > Insisto, un servicio mal configurado o una aplicación mal configurada
> > o mal echa, son capaces de consumir todos los recursos de un servidor.
> > Estas tirando de un ecommerce lo que implica utilizar una BD supongo
> > Mysql o MariaDB, otro punto a considerar si la BD no esta optimizada o
> > no.  Tienes demasiados vectores a considerar y creo que la
> > optimización de tus servicios es uno importante.  Ojo con Apache y las
> > peticiones.
> >
> > Suerte.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 8:03, Oswaldo Franco <
> franco.oswa...@gmail.com>
> > > escribió:
> > >>
> > >> Hola Ricardo,
> > >>
> > >> Si, yo mismo busqué la información sobre el procesador y pude notar
> sus
> > >> características.
> > >>
> > >> Muchas gracias por tus comentarios y los de todos.
> > >>
> > >> Saludos.
> > >>
> > >> El 19 de octubre de 2017, 17:48, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez
> > >>  escribió:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Por lo que dice acá
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> https://ark.intel.com/es/products/75791/Intel-Xeon-
> Processor-E5-2630L-v2-15M-Cache-2_40-GHz
> > >>>
> > >>> Deben ser dos micros de 6 cores con HT
> > >>>
> > >>> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que si el proveedor le asigna los 24
> cores
> > >>> a todos los VPSs rinde menos
> > >>>
> > >>> que si le asigna 4 cores a cada VPS.
> > >>>
> > >>> Saludos.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Desconozco sobre configuraciones de los distintos servicios, pero
> puedo
> > >>> > decir que la VPS tiene configurado un DNS, webserver, MySQL,
> ProFTPD,
> > >>> > SSH,
> > >>> > Postfix, entre otros servicios. La aplicación está en prestashop.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Pensaba que una VPS tenía recursos dedicados, pero lo que quiero
> saber
> > >>> > es
> > >>> > si las características de mi VPS pueden influir en la lentitud de
> mi
> > >>> > web o
> > >>> > pueda ser un problema de configuración.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Saludos y gracias.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 14:58, Felix Perez
> > >>> > 
> > >>> > escribió:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 13:19, Oswaldo Franco
> > >>> > >  escribió:
> > >>> > > > Hola, un saludo para todos.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Actualmente he instalado debian en un VPS, el cual me dice que
> > >>> > > > tiene un
> > >>> > > > procesador Intel (R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-2630L v2 @ 2.40GHz donde
> el
> > >>> > > proveedor
> > >>> > > > de hosting me dice que tiene 24 núcleos. y según el comando
> "cat
> > >>> > > > /proc/cpuinfo" me dice lo mismo. También tiene 3gb de RAM. El
> caso
> > >>> > > > es que
> > >>> > > > monté una web, luego de sus configuraciones y al monitorear con
> > >>> > > > "top -i",
> > >>> > > > veo que a veces que el %CPU llega a 70 o hasta 90, mi pregunta
> es,
> > >>> > > > este
> > >>> > > dato
> > >>> > > > quiere decir que se está chupando casi todo el procesador en
> esas
> > >>> > > > tareas?
> > >>> > > > Se recomienda subir de plan para obtener un mejor procesador?
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Y que nos cuentas de la configuración de los distintos servicios,
> > >>> > > además de cómo está realizada la aplicación que estás lanzando?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Otro punto a considerar es que es una VPS no una maquina "real",
> esta
> > >>> > > compartiendo recursos con quien sabe cuantas máquinas más.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Saludos.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > --
> > >>> > > usuario linux  #274354
> > >>> > > normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
> > >>> > > como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
> > >>> > > http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > --
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> > >>> > Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
> > >>> > GNU/Linux User # 508524
> > >>>
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> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
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> > >> Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
> > > GNU/Linux User # 

Re: Rendimiento Debian o VPS

[Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez]

Si en top apretas el 1 ves el consumo de CPU discriminado por nucleo.

Saludos.

> El 20 de octubre de 2017, 10:54, Oswaldo Franco
>  escribió:
> > Cuando uno el comando "top" en la consola, y monitoreo los procesos,
> > aparecen procesos que dicen 50% de uso del CPU, esto quiere decir el uso
> > total del CPU? Osea me explico como según tengo 1 procesador y 24 núcleos,
> > ese porcentaje es equivalente al CPU o a un núcleo?
> >  
> 
> Por favor no hagas top posting. Gracias.
> 
> Es el porcentaje de la CPU, la carga se reparte entro los diferentes
> núcleos, prueba htop.  ¿Qué te muestra las cargas de los nucleos por
> separado? ¿Hay algún núcleo al 100%?
> 
> Insisto, un servicio mal configurado o una aplicación mal configurada
> o mal echa, son capaces de consumir todos los recursos de un servidor.
> Estas tirando de un ecommerce lo que implica utilizar una BD supongo
> Mysql o MariaDB, otro punto a considerar si la BD no esta optimizada o
> no.  Tienes demasiados vectores a considerar y creo que la
> optimización de tus servicios es uno importante.  Ojo con Apache y las
> peticiones.
> 
> Suerte.
> 
> 
> >
> >
> > El 20 de octubre de 2017, 8:03, Oswaldo Franco 
> > escribió:  
> >>
> >> Hola Ricardo,
> >>
> >> Si, yo mismo busqué la información sobre el procesador y pude notar sus
> >> características.
> >>
> >> Muchas gracias por tus comentarios y los de todos.
> >>
> >> Saludos.
> >>
> >> El 19 de octubre de 2017, 17:48, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez
> >>  escribió:  
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Por lo que dice acá
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://ark.intel.com/es/products/75791/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2630L-v2-15M-Cache-2_40-GHz
> >>>
> >>> Deben ser dos micros de 6 cores con HT
> >>>
> >>> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que si el proveedor le asigna los 24 cores
> >>> a todos los VPSs rinde menos
> >>>
> >>> que si le asigna 4 cores a cada VPS.
> >>>
> >>> Saludos.
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>> > Desconozco sobre configuraciones de los distintos servicios, pero puedo
> >>> > decir que la VPS tiene configurado un DNS, webserver, MySQL, ProFTPD,
> >>> > SSH,
> >>> > Postfix, entre otros servicios. La aplicación está en prestashop.
> >>> >
> >>> > Pensaba que una VPS tenía recursos dedicados, pero lo que quiero saber
> >>> > es
> >>> > si las características de mi VPS pueden influir en la lentitud de mi
> >>> > web o
> >>> > pueda ser un problema de configuración.
> >>> >
> >>> > Saludos y gracias.
> >>> >
> >>> > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 14:58, Felix Perez
> >>> > 
> >>> > escribió:
> >>> >  
> >>> > > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 13:19, Oswaldo Franco
> >>> > >  escribió:  
> >>> > > > Hola, un saludo para todos.
> >>> > > >
> >>> > > > Actualmente he instalado debian en un VPS, el cual me dice que
> >>> > > > tiene un
> >>> > > > procesador Intel (R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-2630L v2 @ 2.40GHz donde el  
> >>> > > proveedor  
> >>> > > > de hosting me dice que tiene 24 núcleos. y según el comando "cat
> >>> > > > /proc/cpuinfo" me dice lo mismo. También tiene 3gb de RAM. El caso
> >>> > > > es que
> >>> > > > monté una web, luego de sus configuraciones y al monitorear con
> >>> > > > "top -i",
> >>> > > > veo que a veces que el %CPU llega a 70 o hasta 90, mi pregunta es,
> >>> > > > este  
> >>> > > dato  
> >>> > > > quiere decir que se está chupando casi todo el procesador en esas
> >>> > > > tareas?
> >>> > > > Se recomienda subir de plan para obtener un mejor procesador?
> >>> > > >  
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Y que nos cuentas de la configuración de los distintos servicios,
> >>> > > además de cómo está realizada la aplicación que estás lanzando?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Otro punto a considerar es que es una VPS no una maquina "real", esta
> >>> > > compartiendo recursos con quien sabe cuantas máquinas más.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Saludos.
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --
> >>> > > usuario linux  #274354
> >>> > > normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
> >>> > > como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
> >>> > > http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
> >>> > >
> >>> > >  
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > OSWALDO FRANCO
> >>> > Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
> >>> > GNU/Linux User # 508524  
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> http://wp.geeklab.com.ar  
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
> >> GNU/Linux User # 508524  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > OSWALDO FRANCO
> > Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
> > GNU/Linux User # 508524  
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
> como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
> http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
> 


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Re: thinkpad mute button not working since upgrade to stretch

[Paul Seyfert]

Hi,

On 20.10.2017 06:09, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
> On 10/19/2017 03:11 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>> On 10/19/2017 02:48 PM, Paul Seyfert wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>
>>> Assuming I'm not the only thinkpad user, any others around who
>>> encountered that problem and have already found a solution? Or tips for
>>> how to get the mute button to work hardware-like again?
>>
>>
>> Paul, do you have "tpb" installed?  That's the package to install 
>> thinkpad buttons.
>> I have it installed and can mute, etc. My thinkpad is running 
>> Buster/Testing now and busy, but will check in Stretch sometime today.
> 
> I upgraded Jessie on this Thinkpad and the volume buttons are working fine.

Thanks for checking. I did not have have tpb installed.
Installing it didn't help though.

Alexandre's reply makes me wonder if my setup is wrong in another
place than the presence/absence of tpb.

Cheers,
Paul

Re: [OT] Breaking WPA2 by forcing nonce reuse

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:05:34 +0530
"tv.deb...@googlemail.com"  wrote:

Hello tv.deb...@googlemail.com,

>I sent that a day ago, but for some reason it didn't make it to the
>list:

You're using google.  It's well known that they don't send your own list
posts back to you.

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problème d'url avec apache2

[bernard . schoenacker]

bonjour,

j'essaye de trouver une solution pour un problème simple lorsque je tape:

http://www.$mydomain.tld/directory

il me réécrit :
http://www.$mydomain.tlddirectory

et je n'ai rien fait de violent mais comment retomber sur ses pieds?

slt
bernard

Re: [OT] Breaking WPA2 by forcing nonce reuse

[rhkramer]

On Friday, October 20, 2017 12:35:34 AM tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> I sent that a day ago, but for some reason it didn't make it to the list:

Why do you think it didn't make it to the list?  I received it on Wednesday, 
with the same quote listed below--here are the headers:


Re: [OT] Breaking WPA2 by forcing nonce reuse
From: "tv.deb...@googlemail.com"  (resent from 
debian-user@lists.debian.org)
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Date: Wed Oct 18 13:04:04 2017


I suspect that, like for many email users / clients, some combination of the 
ISP, your email client, and the maillist headers keep you from seeing your own 
posts.


The following quote was in the Wednesday post:
> > Quote:
> > 
> > "an optional AP-side
> > workaround was introduced in hostapd to complicate these attacks,
> > slowing them down. Please note that this does not fully protect you from
> > them, especially when running older versions of wpa_supplicant
> > vulnerable to CVE-2017-13086, which the workaround does not address. As
> > this workaround can cause interoperability issues and reduced robustness
> > of key negotiation, this workaround is disabled by default."
> > 
> > Option in hostapd.sh [1] is:
> > 
> > wpa_disable_eapol_key_retries
> > 
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://git.lede-project.org/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=d501786ff25684
> > 208d22b7c93ce60c194327c771
> > 
> > [2] https://downloads.lede-project.org/releases/17.01.4/targets/
> 
> So it is part of Latest LEDE release, but I am not aware of other distro
> using this workaround. It comes with a few potential problems, so must
> be thoroughly tested before being deployed, and it likely breaks
> standards which is never good.

Re: Rendimiento Debian o VPS

[Felix Perez]

El 20 de octubre de 2017, 10:54, Oswaldo Franco
 escribió:
> Cuando uno el comando "top" en la consola, y monitoreo los procesos,
> aparecen procesos que dicen 50% de uso del CPU, esto quiere decir el uso
> total del CPU? Osea me explico como según tengo 1 procesador y 24 núcleos,
> ese porcentaje es equivalente al CPU o a un núcleo?
>

Por favor no hagas top posting. Gracias.

Es el porcentaje de la CPU, la carga se reparte entro los diferentes
núcleos, prueba htop.  ¿Qué te muestra las cargas de los nucleos por
separado? ¿Hay algún núcleo al 100%?

Insisto, un servicio mal configurado o una aplicación mal configurada
o mal echa, son capaces de consumir todos los recursos de un servidor.
Estas tirando de un ecommerce lo que implica utilizar una BD supongo
Mysql o MariaDB, otro punto a considerar si la BD no esta optimizada o
no.  Tienes demasiados vectores a considerar y creo que la
optimización de tus servicios es uno importante.  Ojo con Apache y las
peticiones.

Suerte.


>
>
> El 20 de octubre de 2017, 8:03, Oswaldo Franco 
> escribió:
>>
>> Hola Ricardo,
>>
>> Si, yo mismo busqué la información sobre el procesador y pude notar sus
>> características.
>>
>> Muchas gracias por tus comentarios y los de todos.
>>
>> Saludos.
>>
>> El 19 de octubre de 2017, 17:48, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez
>>  escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>> Por lo que dice acá
>>>
>>>
>>> https://ark.intel.com/es/products/75791/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E5-2630L-v2-15M-Cache-2_40-GHz
>>>
>>> Deben ser dos micros de 6 cores con HT
>>>
>>> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que si el proveedor le asigna los 24 cores
>>> a todos los VPSs rinde menos
>>>
>>> que si le asigna 4 cores a cada VPS.
>>>
>>> Saludos.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Desconozco sobre configuraciones de los distintos servicios, pero puedo
>>> > decir que la VPS tiene configurado un DNS, webserver, MySQL, ProFTPD,
>>> > SSH,
>>> > Postfix, entre otros servicios. La aplicación está en prestashop.
>>> >
>>> > Pensaba que una VPS tenía recursos dedicados, pero lo que quiero saber
>>> > es
>>> > si las características de mi VPS pueden influir en la lentitud de mi
>>> > web o
>>> > pueda ser un problema de configuración.
>>> >
>>> > Saludos y gracias.
>>> >
>>> > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 14:58, Felix Perez
>>> > 
>>> > escribió:
>>> >
>>> > > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 13:19, Oswaldo Franco
>>> > >  escribió:
>>> > > > Hola, un saludo para todos.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Actualmente he instalado debian en un VPS, el cual me dice que
>>> > > > tiene un
>>> > > > procesador Intel (R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-2630L v2 @ 2.40GHz donde el
>>> > > proveedor
>>> > > > de hosting me dice que tiene 24 núcleos. y según el comando "cat
>>> > > > /proc/cpuinfo" me dice lo mismo. También tiene 3gb de RAM. El caso
>>> > > > es que
>>> > > > monté una web, luego de sus configuraciones y al monitorear con
>>> > > > "top -i",
>>> > > > veo que a veces que el %CPU llega a 70 o hasta 90, mi pregunta es,
>>> > > > este
>>> > > dato
>>> > > > quiere decir que se está chupando casi todo el procesador en esas
>>> > > > tareas?
>>> > > > Se recomienda subir de plan para obtener un mejor procesador?
>>> > > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Y que nos cuentas de la configuración de los distintos servicios,
>>> > > además de cómo está realizada la aplicación que estás lanzando?
>>> > >
>>> > > Otro punto a considerar es que es una VPS no una maquina "real", esta
>>> > > compartiendo recursos con quien sabe cuantas máquinas más.
>>> > >
>>> > > Saludos.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > usuario linux  #274354
>>> > > normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
>>> > > como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
>>> > > http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > OSWALDO FRANCO
>>> > Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
>>> > GNU/Linux User # 508524
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://wp.geeklab.com.ar
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> OSWALDO FRANCO
>> Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
>> GNU/Linux User # 508524
>
>
>
>
> --
> OSWALDO FRANCO
> Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
> GNU/Linux User # 508524



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Re: Equipo lento al copiar [ERA:Porque sera]

[JAP]

El 20/10/17 a las 11:10, Sandy escribió:

Pues comunidad debian desde que uso debian que por cierto lo empeze a usar con 
debian 8 , me sucede algo inusual , pues es que cuando decido hacer copia de 
algo me pone la makina lenta en el sentido: siguiente

si monto una imagen .iso y copio su contenido a una USB o HDD externo me pone 
la maquina super lenta como si estuviera usando todos los nucleos del micro y 
toda la ram , bueno me para la musica y se me keda en pausa en breve tiempo , 
lo mismo me sucede el debian 9 pero esta ves la pone lenta cuando copia el 
principio ya despues se le quita
ALguien le ha sucedido eso o sabe que pudiera ser



Sandy, bienvenida a la comunidad de usuarios.

Sé más específica:
¿Qué versión de Debian usas: Jessie, Stretch o Buster?
¿Qué equipos tienes, 32 o 64 bits?
¿Qué capacidad tiene tu máquina: velocidad y RAM?

Sé un poco más clara de lo que estás haciendo.

Y por favor, escribe en castellano si los "ke".

https://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista

JAP

Porque sera

[Sandy]

Pues comunidad debian desde que uso debian que por cierto lo empeze a usar con 
debian 8 , me sucede algo inusual , pues es que cuando decido hacer copia de 
algo me pone la makina lenta en el sentido: siguiente

si monto una imagen .iso y copio su contenido a una USB o HDD externo me pone 
la maquina super lenta como si estuviera usando todos los nucleos del micro y 
toda la ram , bueno me para la musica y se me keda en pausa en breve tiempo , 
lo mismo me sucede el debian 9 pero esta ves la pone lenta cuando copia el 
principio ya despues se le quita 
ALguien le ha sucedido eso o sabe que pudiera ser

-- 
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Sandy 
Enviando desde Sylpheed GNU/LINUX

Re: Ça mounte plus (résolu)

[Txo]

Le 19/10/2017 à 18:22, Txo a écrit :
> Bonjour,
> 
> Jusquà il n'y a plus longtemps j'avais, sur ma sid, pour monter le
> disque interne de la freebox et un disque sur l'usb de cette freebox,
> les lignes suivantes dans fstab :
> 
> //192.168.1.254/Disque\040dur /media/freebox  cifs
> x-systemd.automount,_netdev,rw,users,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,user=freebox,pass=,sec=ntlm,nofail,auto,vers=2.0
> 0 0
> //192.168.1.254/Samsung   /media/samsung  cifs
> x-systemd.automount,_netdev,rw,users,iocharset=utf8,uid=1000,user=freebox,pass=,sec=ntlm,nofail,auto,vers=2.0
> 0 0
> 

J'ai résolu mon problème en ajoutant vers=1.0 à la liste des options. La
version par défaut semble être 3.0 et la freebox n'en veut pas.


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Re: Rendimiento Debian o VPS

[Oswaldo Franco]

Cuando uno el comando "top" en la consola, y monitoreo los procesos,
aparecen procesos que dicen 50% de uso del CPU, esto quiere decir el uso
total del CPU? Osea me explico como según tengo 1 procesador y 24 núcleos,
ese porcentaje es equivalente al CPU o a un núcleo?



El 20 de octubre de 2017, 8:03, Oswaldo Franco 
escribió:

> Hola Ricardo,
>
> Si, yo mismo busqué la información sobre el procesador y pude notar sus
> características.
>
> Muchas gracias por tus comentarios y los de todos.
>
> Saludos.
>
> El 19 de octubre de 2017, 17:48, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez <
> rmalva...@gnupanel.org> escribió:
>
>>
>> Por lo que dice acá
>>
>> https://ark.intel.com/es/products/75791/Intel-Xeon-Processor
>> -E5-2630L-v2-15M-Cache-2_40-GHz
>>
>> Deben ser dos micros de 6 cores con HT
>>
>> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que si el proveedor le asigna los 24 cores
>> a todos los VPSs rinde menos
>>
>> que si le asigna 4 cores a cada VPS.
>>
>> Saludos.
>>
>>
>> > Desconozco sobre configuraciones de los distintos servicios, pero puedo
>> > decir que la VPS tiene configurado un DNS, webserver, MySQL, ProFTPD,
>> SSH,
>> > Postfix, entre otros servicios. La aplicación está en prestashop.
>> >
>> > Pensaba que una VPS tenía recursos dedicados, pero lo que quiero saber
>> es
>> > si las características de mi VPS pueden influir en la lentitud de mi
>> web o
>> > pueda ser un problema de configuración.
>> >
>> > Saludos y gracias.
>> >
>> > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 14:58, Felix Perez <
>> felix.listadeb...@gmail.com>
>> > escribió:
>> >
>> > > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 13:19, Oswaldo Franco
>> > >  escribió:
>> > > > Hola, un saludo para todos.
>> > > >
>> > > > Actualmente he instalado debian en un VPS, el cual me dice que
>> tiene un
>> > > > procesador Intel (R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-2630L v2 @ 2.40GHz donde el
>> > > proveedor
>> > > > de hosting me dice que tiene 24 núcleos. y según el comando "cat
>> > > > /proc/cpuinfo" me dice lo mismo. También tiene 3gb de RAM. El caso
>> es que
>> > > > monté una web, luego de sus configuraciones y al monitorear con
>> "top -i",
>> > > > veo que a veces que el %CPU llega a 70 o hasta 90, mi pregunta es,
>> este
>> > > dato
>> > > > quiere decir que se está chupando casi todo el procesador en esas
>> tareas?
>> > > > Se recomienda subir de plan para obtener un mejor procesador?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Y que nos cuentas de la configuración de los distintos servicios,
>> > > además de cómo está realizada la aplicación que estás lanzando?
>> > >
>> > > Otro punto a considerar es que es una VPS no una maquina "real", esta
>> > > compartiendo recursos con quien sabe cuantas máquinas más.
>> > >
>> > > Saludos.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > usuario linux  #274354
>> > > normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
>> > > como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
>> > > http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > OSWALDO FRANCO
>> > Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
>> > GNU/Linux User # 508524
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>
>
> --
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Re: Ciao, sono felice di aver trovato qualcuno degno. Martina

[SARACRUZ1978]

Citando jscouc...@orange.fr:


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Re: Rendimiento Debian o VPS

[Oswaldo Franco]

Hola Ricardo,

Si, yo mismo busqué la información sobre el procesador y pude notar sus
características.

Muchas gracias por tus comentarios y los de todos.

Saludos.

El 19 de octubre de 2017, 17:48, Ricardo Marcelo Alvarez <
rmalva...@gnupanel.org> escribió:

>
> Por lo que dice acá
>
> https://ark.intel.com/es/products/75791/Intel-Xeon-
> Processor-E5-2630L-v2-15M-Cache-2_40-GHz
>
> Deben ser dos micros de 6 cores con HT
>
> Otra cosa a tener en cuenta es que si el proveedor le asigna los 24 cores
> a todos los VPSs rinde menos
>
> que si le asigna 4 cores a cada VPS.
>
> Saludos.
>
>
> > Desconozco sobre configuraciones de los distintos servicios, pero puedo
> > decir que la VPS tiene configurado un DNS, webserver, MySQL, ProFTPD,
> SSH,
> > Postfix, entre otros servicios. La aplicación está en prestashop.
> >
> > Pensaba que una VPS tenía recursos dedicados, pero lo que quiero saber es
> > si las características de mi VPS pueden influir en la lentitud de mi web
> o
> > pueda ser un problema de configuración.
> >
> > Saludos y gracias.
> >
> > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 14:58, Felix Perez <
> felix.listadeb...@gmail.com>
> > escribió:
> >
> > > El 19 de octubre de 2017, 13:19, Oswaldo Franco
> > >  escribió:
> > > > Hola, un saludo para todos.
> > > >
> > > > Actualmente he instalado debian en un VPS, el cual me dice que tiene
> un
> > > > procesador Intel (R) Xeon (R) CPU E5-2630L v2 @ 2.40GHz donde el
> > > proveedor
> > > > de hosting me dice que tiene 24 núcleos. y según el comando "cat
> > > > /proc/cpuinfo" me dice lo mismo. También tiene 3gb de RAM. El caso
> es que
> > > > monté una web, luego de sus configuraciones y al monitorear con "top
> -i",
> > > > veo que a veces que el %CPU llega a 70 o hasta 90, mi pregunta es,
> este
> > > dato
> > > > quiere decir que se está chupando casi todo el procesador en esas
> tareas?
> > > > Se recomienda subir de plan para obtener un mejor procesador?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Y que nos cuentas de la configuración de los distintos servicios,
> > > además de cómo está realizada la aplicación que estás lanzando?
> > >
> > > Otro punto a considerar es que es una VPS no una maquina "real", esta
> > > compartiendo recursos con quien sabe cuantas máquinas más.
> > >
> > > Saludos.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > usuario linux  #274354
> > > normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
> > > como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
> > > http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > OSWALDO FRANCO
> > Cumaná, Sucre -Venezuela
> > GNU/Linux User # 508524
>
>
> --
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>



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Re: [OT] Breaking WPA2 by forcing nonce reuse

[Brian]

On Thu 19 Oct 2017 at 17:06:20 +0100, Ron Leach wrote:

> On 19/10/2017 16:56, Dan Purgert wrote:
> > Brian wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > Isn't it sufficient to fix one end of the
> > > connection to dispose of the vulnerability?
> > > 
> > 
> > KRACK is an attack against the *client* side.  It MUST (rfc2119) be that
> > device that is patched against the attack.
> > 
> 
> Dan, I'm not sure it's that simple, either.
> 
> There are *two* WiFi connections in the Debian-box to Printer case:
> i Debian box to Access Point
> ii Printer to Access Point
> 
> Brian's idea is good for the connection from the Debian box to the Access
> Point1.
> 
> But the connection between the printer, and the Access Point remains
> vulnerable - particularly to the possible all-zero key.
> 
> Your advice is extremely close, and very pertinent, but *both* clients need
> to be fixed.  So Celejar's powerline link may be a reasonable solution for
> his case.

Thanks to you, Dan Purgert and Celejar for correcting my misconception.
The middleman (the WAP) needs to be taken out of the picture. With more
recent printers this is a possibility if they have WiFi Direct. A Debian
machine with a patched supplicant can then be set up to connect directly
with the printer.

-- 
Brian.

redireccionar URLs con squid

[Ariel Alvarez]

hola lista hace unos dias me preguntaron si era posible realizar una 
redirección de una url X hacia otra mediante squid, ejemplo si un 
usuario pidiera https://www.facebook.com esta peticion fuera redirigida 
a https://m.facebook.com, y asi con varias direcciones segun el interes 
de la institucion, busque algunas soluciones a fin en internet y lo 
unico que encontre relacionado es bloquear el acceso a la url deseada y 
luego editar la pagina de error referente a deny, direccionando esta 
peticion hacia otra url, eso hasta cierto punto esta bien pero no se 
trata de una sola url si no de varias.


alguien ha hecho algo similar?

se agradece cualquier ayuda o norte.

gracias de antemano

-
Consejo Nacional de Casas de Cultura
http://www.casasdecultura.cult.cu

Re: Update - was {Re: Recovering accidentally deleted file folder}

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/18/2017 02:09 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 10/18/2017 11:04 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I had posted:


It wasn't backed up - will have to follow advice advice I've given
others ;/

I've not done file recovery since early days of WinXP.

On the affected machine I'm running Stretch(9.1) with Mate desktop.

The affected folders are on a partition normally mounted by a line
in fstab.


I immediately shut down.
There is another instance of Debian on a separate partition.

Logging in as root I edited fstab commenting out the appropriate line.


I feel the the data is still valid - there is just no appropriate
directory entries for the affected folder and its sub-directories.




I have copied the partition to another partition (using dd).
The critical data in the deleted  folder(s) was my SeaMonkey profile.
I discovered I did have a several months old backup of the profile.
I am now running Squeeze  (9.1) from a fresh install and installed the
latest SeaMonkey on it.

Several packages in the Debian repository have been suggested. I will
download their man-pages and will try them.

Several forensic packages have also been suggested which will used if
required.

Thanks for the help.


I did "extundelete --restore-all /dev/sdaNN".
It apparently worked while stating it could not restore several files.
SeaMonkey was unhappy with the results -- giving an error message
suggestive of permission problem(s).
That is still progress, before SeaMonkey would not start.
I'll have to take a break and work out a reasonable diagnostic routine.
Thanks again.



Having enough space on my HDD I added a fresh install of Stretch with a 
fresh copy of SeaMonkey. I then copied the critical SeaMonkey profile 
from the restored image to folder with profiles on new the new install 
and added it to profiles.ini . SeaMonkey had no problem with it.

Re: Password managers [WAS: Re: when do I get a browsere that will do internet purchases?]

[Jeremy Nicoll]

On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, at 02:27, Garreau, Alexandre wrote:

> I’d especially like to notice that there are the packages
> *xul-ext-gnome-keyring* and *xul-ext-kwallet5* which make both Firefox
> and Thunderbird use respectively GNOME and KDE’s password
> managers. That’s way more secure imho, and especially with the package
> xul-ext-pwdhash.

But haven't Mozilla, just phased-out xul support in Firefox, requiring
extensions to be written using the 'web-extensions' API?

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

Re: Sense APM, problemes amb ACPI

[Pep]

Hola.

A mí me dona el mateix error a la arrencada (ACPI error, method 
parse/execution failed), pero si arrenco amb el kernel 4.8.0.1 no me 
dona cap error.


Ho has provat?.

Salut,

Pep



El 20/10/17 a les 11:38, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:

Un ordinador amb Debian 9 em dóna aquestes alertes:

ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Optional FADT field Pm2ControlBlock has valid
Address but zero Length: 0x0050/0x0 (20160831/tbfadt-658)
ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Invalid length for FADT/Pm2ControlBlock: 0,
using default 8 (20160831/tbfadt-708)
pmd_set_huge: Cannot satisfy [mem 0xf400-0xf420] with a
huge-page mapping due to MTRR override.
acpi LNXCPU:00: Invalid PBLK length [7]
acpi LNXCPU:01: Invalid PBLK length [7]
ACPI BIOS Error (bug): \_SB.PCI0._OSC: Excess arguments - ASL declared
5, ACPI requires 4 (20160831/nsarguments-189)
ACPI Error: [CAPD] Namespace lookup failure, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS
(20160831/dsfield-211)
ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PCI0._OSC] (Node
8a0f930aeaa0), AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20160831/psparse-543)

Primer he buscat la manera de deshabilitar ACPI a la BIOS, però no hi ha
opció. He provat, una a una, a afegir aquestes opcions d'arrencada:

acpi=ht
pci=noacpi
acpi=noirq
pnpacpi=off
noapic
nolapic
acpi=off

I la única que em permet arrencar sense queixa sobre ACPI és "acpi=off".
El problema és que aleshores l'ordinador no apaga en aturar el sistema.

He provat d'afegir "apm=power-off", però no funciona i ja he llegit que
el mòdul APM no s'inclou al nucli des de Debian 5.

Algú sap una alternativa per a què l'ordinador efectivament apagui sense
ACPI?

Per cert, què perdo deshabilitant ACPI?

Re: Sense APM, problemes amb ACPI

[Narcis Garcia]

Si, ja vaig actualitzar la BIOS abans de fer la instal·lació.
De moment, assumeixo els les alertes per a tenir una apagada fàcil a
l'ordinador.



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El 20/10/17 a les 12:55, Josep Lladonosa ha escrit:
> On 20 October 2017 at 11:38, Narcis Garcia  wrote:
>> Un ordinador amb Debian 9 em dóna aquestes alertes:
>>
>> ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Optional FADT field Pm2ControlBlock has valid
>> Address but zero Length: 0x0050/0x0 (20160831/tbfadt-658)
>> ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Invalid length for FADT/Pm2ControlBlock: 0,
>> using default 8 (20160831/tbfadt-708)
>> pmd_set_huge: Cannot satisfy [mem 0xf400-0xf420] with a
>> huge-page mapping due to MTRR override.
>> acpi LNXCPU:00: Invalid PBLK length [7]
>> acpi LNXCPU:01: Invalid PBLK length [7]
>> ACPI BIOS Error (bug): \_SB.PCI0._OSC: Excess arguments - ASL declared
>> 5, ACPI requires 4 (20160831/nsarguments-189)
>> ACPI Error: [CAPD] Namespace lookup failure, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS
>> (20160831/dsfield-211)
>> ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PCI0._OSC] (Node
>> 8a0f930aeaa0), AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20160831/psparse-543)
> 
> Hi ha bios amb "bugs". Abans de provar coses recomanen actualitzar la
> bios a la darrera versió (m'ha resolt situacions similars en màquines
> antigues). Val a dir que de vegades apareixen avisos de coses que no
> resten funcionalitat al sistema, és a dir, que els avisos es poden
> obviar (si funciona, és clar).
> 
> 
>>
>> Primer he buscat la manera de deshabilitar ACPI a la BIOS, però no hi ha
>> opció. He provat, una a una, a afegir aquestes opcions d'arrencada:
>>
>> acpi=ht
>> pci=noacpi
>> acpi=noirq
>> pnpacpi=off
>> noapic
>> nolapic
>> acpi=off
>>
>> I la única que em permet arrencar sense queixa sobre ACPI és "acpi=off".
>> El problema és que aleshores l'ordinador no apaga en aturar el sistema.
>>
>> He provat d'afegir "apm=power-off", però no funciona i ja he llegit que
>> el mòdul APM no s'inclou al nucli des de Debian 5.
>>
>> Algú sap una alternativa per a què l'ordinador efectivament apagui sense
>> ACPI?
>>
>> Per cert, què perdo deshabilitant ACPI?
>>
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Re: Sense APM, problemes amb ACPI

[Narcis Garcia]

$ apt search linux-image-4.8
No em troba res. I prefereixo utilitzar paquets mantinguts al repositori
de Debian, per si sorgeixen altres coses a resoldre.



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El 20/10/17 a les 12:51, Pep ha escrit:
> Hola.
> 
> A mí me dona el mateix error a la arrencada (ACPI error, method
> parse/execution failed), pero si arrenco amb el kernel 4.8.0.1 no me
> dona cap error.
> 
> Ho has provat?.
> 
> Salut,
> 
> Pep
> 
> 
> 
> El 20/10/17 a les 11:38, Narcis Garcia ha escrit:
>> Un ordinador amb Debian 9 em dóna aquestes alertes:
>>
>> ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Optional FADT field Pm2ControlBlock has valid
>> Address but zero Length: 0x0050/0x0 (20160831/tbfadt-658)
>> ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Invalid length for FADT/Pm2ControlBlock: 0,
>> using default 8 (20160831/tbfadt-708)
>> pmd_set_huge: Cannot satisfy [mem 0xf400-0xf420] with a
>> huge-page mapping due to MTRR override.
>> acpi LNXCPU:00: Invalid PBLK length [7]
>> acpi LNXCPU:01: Invalid PBLK length [7]
>> ACPI BIOS Error (bug): \_SB.PCI0._OSC: Excess arguments - ASL declared
>> 5, ACPI requires 4 (20160831/nsarguments-189)
>> ACPI Error: [CAPD] Namespace lookup failure, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS
>> (20160831/dsfield-211)
>> ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PCI0._OSC] (Node
>> 8a0f930aeaa0), AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20160831/psparse-543)
>>
>> Primer he buscat la manera de deshabilitar ACPI a la BIOS, però no hi ha
>> opció. He provat, una a una, a afegir aquestes opcions d'arrencada:
>>
>> acpi=ht
>> pci=noacpi
>> acpi=noirq
>> pnpacpi=off
>> noapic
>> nolapic
>> acpi=off
>>
>> I la única que em permet arrencar sense queixa sobre ACPI és "acpi=off".
>> El problema és que aleshores l'ordinador no apaga en aturar el sistema.
>>
>> He provat d'afegir "apm=power-off", però no funciona i ja he llegit que
>> el mòdul APM no s'inclou al nucli des de Debian 5.
>>
>> Algú sap una alternativa per a què l'ordinador efectivament apagui sense
>> ACPI?
>>
>> Per cert, què perdo deshabilitant ACPI?
>>
> 

Re: LXDE panel disappeared

[A_Man_Without_Clue]

On 10/16/2017 12:03 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/15/2017 11:55 PM, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
>> On 10/15/17, A_Man_Without_Clue  wrote:
>>> On 10/15/2017 06:57 PM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
 On 10/15/2017 08:32 AM, A_Man_Without_Clue wrote:
>
> I have been running Debian Stretch with LXDE for about 1 week.
>
> I turned on the PC this morning and and found out that the main LXDE
> panel at bottom (default panel) is gone.
>
> I had added additional panel at the side with few icons and also had
> changed the back ground image. I  didn't do anything fancy other than
> that.
>
> The newly added panel was displayed but was missing some icons, only
> showing default desktop PC looking icons. I rebooted to PC to see if it
> would make differences. All icons on the newly added panel came back but
> the bottom menu panel is still missing.
>
> What went wrong and why?
> How can I get the bottom panel?


 I gave up.

 What I did was I deleted my account and added myself again.

 But it's good to know how to restore the default settings if there is
 the way.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't believe this
>>>
>>> Same thing happened again to newly created account
>>> I don't know what caused this. I did same thing. Added new side panel,
>>> and changed background image
>>>
>>> Clueless now.
>>
>>
>> The only thing I can think of is... did you try running your cursor
>> (mouse pointer) all the way off the screen in the area where that
>> panel usually sits? That would rule out that it's somehow being
>> toggled into that hide-n-seek feature that those have..
>>
>> A quick search looking for possible keyboard shortcuts (to hide and
>> show our panels) reminded me that you could try ALT+F1 to see if that
>> brings up your Applications menu or at least something similar.
>> Disclaimer is that might not be an LXDE shortcut, but it *is* one for
>> XFCE4. I like to think something nice and helpful like that is
>> *universal*. :)
>>
>> If ALT+F1 works, it would tell you if your panel is still there or
>> not, anyway. If that doesn't work, maybe another Internet search will
>> reveal a keyboard key combination special to LXDE that you could try..
>>
>> You could also try "ps aux | grep panel" and/or "ps aux | grep
>> lxpanel", too. That might help show if the panel is even active. As an
>> example for mine just now, "grep panel" brought up "xfce4-panel". If
>> anyone knows a different grep [variable/value] would instead be
>> reflected for LXDE's panel(s) in that output, please help share..
>>
>> I had an experience like this a long time ago, but can't remember
>> what. I do remember fighting it for a very frustrated extended period
>> of time, though. If that experience comes back to mind, I'll come back
>> and add to this...
>>
>> Cindy :)
>>
> 
> 
> Thank you for your input.
> No, it wasn't minimizing feature of the panel. The panel was completely
> gone.
> Alt + F1 brings the menu on the LXDE but I did not try that.
> 
> What I have found out is that if I add the panel in addition to default
> one, the default panel disappears after reboot. Some icons on the newly
> added panel also disappears. AND I can not delete the newly added panel.
> 
> What I had to do is that I had to re-create my account, this time not to
> mess with desktop panel.
> This never happened on Jessie, Wheezy and Squeeze.
> 
> Very frustrating because I like to use additional panel on desk top.
> 

I just tried other newly installed Stretch. Same problem. I guess this
is Debian Stretch specific problem.

Sense APM, problemes amb ACPI

[Narcis Garcia]

Un ordinador amb Debian 9 em dóna aquestes alertes:

ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Optional FADT field Pm2ControlBlock has valid
Address but zero Length: 0x0050/0x0 (20160831/tbfadt-658)
ACPI BIOS Warning (bug): Invalid length for FADT/Pm2ControlBlock: 0,
using default 8 (20160831/tbfadt-708)
pmd_set_huge: Cannot satisfy [mem 0xf400-0xf420] with a
huge-page mapping due to MTRR override.
acpi LNXCPU:00: Invalid PBLK length [7]
acpi LNXCPU:01: Invalid PBLK length [7]
ACPI BIOS Error (bug): \_SB.PCI0._OSC: Excess arguments - ASL declared
5, ACPI requires 4 (20160831/nsarguments-189)
ACPI Error: [CAPD] Namespace lookup failure, AE_ALREADY_EXISTS
(20160831/dsfield-211)
ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed [\_SB.PCI0._OSC] (Node
8a0f930aeaa0), AE_ALREADY_EXISTS (20160831/psparse-543)

Primer he buscat la manera de deshabilitar ACPI a la BIOS, però no hi ha
opció. He provat, una a una, a afegir aquestes opcions d'arrencada:

acpi=ht
pci=noacpi
acpi=noirq
pnpacpi=off
noapic
nolapic
acpi=off

I la única que em permet arrencar sense queixa sobre ACPI és "acpi=off".
El problema és que aleshores l'ordinador no apaga en aturar el sistema.

He provat d'afegir "apm=power-off", però no funciona i ja he llegit que
el mòdul APM no s'inclou al nucli des de Debian 5.

Algú sap una alternativa per a què l'ordinador efectivament apagui sense
ACPI?

Per cert, què perdo deshabilitant ACPI?

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Re: Cannot copy files from usb source

[Pétùr]

Le 20/10/2017 à 03:32, Tom Furie a écrit :
>> I cannot copy files from my laptop (with SSD formated in ext4) to my
>> external HDD (formated also in ext4). I have an input/outpur error. The
>> I can do the opposite, i.e. transfert files from my laptop to my
>> external HDD (or other usb connected devices) with no problem.
> Which is it?

Sorry for the mistake: I *cannot* copy file from my HDD to my laptop and
I *can* copy files from the laptop to my HDD. Writing on my laptop SSD
is the problem.

Re: removing of sddm (debian 9 -kde5) to start in console mode then startx to start kde5

[Felix Miata]

David Wright composed on 2017-10-19 17:00 (UTC-0500):

> On Wed 18 Oct 2017 at 19:22:53 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote:

>> Finding a wanted app to run from a classified tree list of 30 or 40 or 50 or
>> more applications is easier for most people than remembering the name and any
>> required startup options to type, both for those uncommonly used, and even 
>> for
>> the commonly used ones if there are more than a scant few such. 2 or 3 or 4
>> clicks to start one up is typically easier than typing 4, 5, 6, 7 or more
>> characters, or searching command history more than a few entries back.

> Do you need a DE to do that? What's the difference between that and
> the Debian menus that I occasionally use? 

Don't I? One of the few positive paradigms to come out of Redmond was the button
at the lower left corner of the screen to open a tree-structured list of
applications and utilities available to run. I've yet to see a materially better
one that that derived from it for KDE2 or 3 that added a search box.

>> It's a
>> nice bonus in some DEs that automatically remember and reopen apps, their
>> content states, and their window sizes and positions.

> That's more debatable. Some people like that, some like me prefer
> a particular setup whenever I start X, some use Place with Mouseclick,
> etc. But there appear to be separate packages to handle this, like
> lxsession and devilspie. 

I need all the help I can get to pickup where I left off when interrupted and
forced to end the session before the WIP can be completed.

>> For some, the microscopic default text size and fractional default 
>> proportion of
>> screen area (80x25, using as little as 1/16 or less of total screen space) of
>> xterm windows impedes their use for anything.

> I've seen reports of fonts getting tinier as resolutions increase,
> and not just on linux. I don't know how hard or easy it is to provide
> sensible defaults for every application on every system, and in any
> case circumstances vary. People with poor sight want large characters,
> others want more characters on the screen. In the specific case of
> xterm, I want and have both, and different fonts too, just by setting
> different commandline options and Xresources. 

It's not resolutions per se, but resolution increases have considerable tendency
to carry higher pixel density, notwithstanding the considerable average density
differences between laptop displays and desktop displays. The problem comes from
several sources:

1-Inconsistency from developers, some who size in pixels, and some who size in
points. Points are resolution dependent, so are in principle unaffected by
density. Pixels are entirely independent, so the higher the density, the smaller
the container into which a fixed number of pixels fit.

2-As you imply, some want a bigger screen to provide for more stuff to fit,
while others want the same stuff to simply be bigger, and yet others want a
mixture of both.

3-Overall, computer developers are a youthful bunch, so their eyesight is better
than average, while their collective wisdom has a lot of growing yet to do. Try
to imagine anyone getting into computer development whose eyesight is materially
poorer than average. That can be lot of pain to suffer day-in, day-out working
on screens designed for use by people with better vision. There simply isn't
much of it happening.

4-Hardware manufacturers are caught in the middle. They don't stay in business
without making a profit. They know how to make higher quality product, but
they're stifled by returns from those who after getting the product home
determine their bigger screen makes things tinier and harder to use. So they
limit the selection of high quality product, producing mostly native resolutions
in physical sizes that produce densities near the arbitrary software standard of
96 DPI. 1366x768 in this day and age is hard to imagine, given that 1024x768
dates back over three decades, and 1080p dates back more than two decades. Yet,
this is the resolution of both a typical 32" TV screen and a laptop of 15".
Large PC screens ought to have an *average* density of at least 200 DPI by now,
and have the software automatically doing the computations necessary to allow
people to enjoy better quality and overall experience.

5-Much of development incorporates overwhelming perfectionism, a need to have
results look "just right", not necessarily with any wisdom of the perspective of
those with different eyes. Over-control is typical, limiting or even eliminating
the ability to accommodate differing capabilities and/or environments. Computers
are good at calculating, but developers routinely limit that utility. One of the
most blatant of such constraints can be seen in Xorg:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41115
Please add option to avoid forcing of 96dpi

an offshoot from:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705
xserver forces 96 DPI on randr-1.2-capable drivers, overriding correct 
autodetection

Re: Can imagemagick really be safely purged or removed?

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Take a look which imagemagick packages are installed:

$ aptitude search '~iimagemagick'

Probably there is a line beginning with

i A  imagemagick-6.q16

which shall replace imagemagick. Also see the dependencies of package 
imagemagick:

$ dpkg -s imagemagick

So before purging imagemagick you have to

$ aptitude unmarkauto imagemagick-6.q16

Regards,
jvp.

Re: sources.list

[Lucio Crusca]

Il 19/10/2017 18:12, don magnify ha scritto:
thanks...  i did. same result... 


You may want to run

# apt-get update

before your build-dep command.

Re: sources.list

[Lucio Crusca]

Il 19/10/2017 19:29, don magnify ha scritto:

how dies this help with the "build-dep python-imaging --fix-missing" part?!


Because build-dep action needs to download source packages too. Since 
you plan to install *build* dependencies, you need the sources (or at 
least headers) of the required libraries.

Re: Performance RAID instable

[Seb]

Bonjour,


Il y a un détail qui m'interpelle. Pourquoi la gestion mémoire avec PAE 
n'impacte (apparement) que le système RAID logiciel du noyau ?


Chez moi seuls les tableaux RAID étaient affectés mais... je n'utilise que 
du RAID. D'autres ont signalé le même problème sur des disques isolés et 
même avec un clef USB. C'est donc seulement ma présentation qui donnait 
cet angle RAID (je pensais que le problème pouvait provenir de la gestion 
du RAID, idée plus immédiate que la gestion de la RAM).



Pourquoi 4 Go ? C'est un peu arbitraire.
As-tu essayé d'autres valeurs entre 4 et 8 Go ?


Il me semble que le PAE permet au noyau d'utiliser la RAM au-delà de 4 Go:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extension_d%27adresse_physique
Je me suis dit que le noyau devait avoir des fonctions pour des RAM d'au 
plus 4 Go, et des astuces en plus pour les RAM au-delà, et que ce sont ces 
dernières qui sont actuellement buguées. Comme « ça marche », l'hypothèse 
a l'air correcte. Mais effectivement, non, je n'ai pas tenté 6 Go. Je ne 
vois pas de raison pour que ça marche.



Seb.

Re: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] network-manager-gnome - Ethernet - Security - 802.1x - Password can't be changed

[Daniel]

> It looks like you used gnome-control-center to change the password.
> Does it make a difference if you use nm-connection-editor (from
> network-manager-gnome) to change the password?
>
>
> --
> Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
> universe are pointed away from Earth?
>

Indeed, I ran nm-connection-editor from terminal and I could change
the password successfully (even though after saving it gives a seg
fault), that is, when I came back to it, it was changed :)

Here is the terminal output for information purposes, although like I
said using it worked to change the password despite the noisy
messages.

$ nm-connection-editor
Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.

(nm-connection-editor:28348): Gtk-CRITICAL **:
gtk_box_gadget_distribute: assertion 'size >= 0' failed in GtkNotebook

(nm-connection-editor:28348): Gtk-CRITICAL **:
gtk_box_gadget_distribute: assertion 'size >= 0' failed in GtkNotebook
** Message: Cannot save connection due to error: Invalid setting
802.1X Security: missing EAP password
** Message: Connection validates and can be saved
Segmentation fault



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