Re: rsync vers un FTPS

[Pierre L.]

> bonjour,
>
> te casses pas le baigneur avec ftp, faut passer à sftp :
>
> https://pantheon.io/docs/rsync-and-sftp/
>
> et pourquoi ne pas employer mc en mode sftp ?
>
> merci
>
> slt
> bernard
>
Ok ok! à mater !
Mais je n'ai malheureusement pas trop la main sur le serveur distant en
question.
Au pire il sera possible de configurer le fameux serveur distant pour
qu'il vienne récupérer les datas, à la place de les recevoir via FTPS...

Ce sera l'occaz, du fait, dans la foulée, que je me renseigne sur le
bridage de l'accès SSH qui permet uniquement les transferts SFTP, en
bloquant la console... il me semble que cela existe... ou qu'il n'y ai
qu'un choix de comptes actifs pour la console... à voir!

Merci pour vos précédentes réponses :)
(la mienne est tardive!)



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Re: Auto-complétion d'URL avec Firefox ESR/Chromium sur Jessie ou Stretch

[Pierre L.]

Le 24/05/2018 à 11:49, Olivier a écrit :
> Bonjour,
>
> Connaissez-vous un mécanisme d'auto-complétion ou équivalent,
> utilisable dans Firefox et Chromium qui permette l'auto-complétion du
> nom de domaine.
> Ce mécanisme est-il factorisable avec celui de bash ?
>
> Exemple, dans mon fichier /etc/hosts, ou mieux avec un serveur dns
> local, j'ai défini l'entrée:
> 192.168.12.12 foobar toto
>
> Quand dans ma barre d'URL, je saisi foo+TAB ou tot+TAB (TAB étant la
> touche de tabulation), mon navigateur complète intelligemment ma saisie.
>
> J'imagine qu'on peut tromper le navigateur en ajoutant par programme
> des entrées dans l'historique de navigation.
>
> Slts
>
Bonjour,

On peut passer par les marques-pages. Quand un site/URL est marqué, il
suffira d'appuyer sur Entrée quand l'url entière est proposée par le
navigateur...

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Re: Intermittent blank screen – Stretch

[Mike]

Yes, it is a smart tv.


On 02/06/18 10:56, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 05/31/2018 04:27 PM, Mike wrote:
I have just installed Stretch and and randomly getting a 2 second (or 
so) blank screen. I can go for quite some time without it happening, 
or it can happen several times over a few minutes. I can dual boot 
with Jessie and do not have the problem with that – so I think I can 
rule out a hardware issue.


I have an Nvidia GTX1050 video card, HDMI output to a Samsung 49" TV, 
4K video. There is no other type of input into the TV for me to be 
able to test.


Here is what I have done
1. Installed Stretch (amd64) with XFCE
2. apt-get install firmware-linux nvidia-driver nvidia-settings 
nvidia-xconfig

3. run nvidia-xconfig
4. turned off screen blanking in power settings

I am quite happy to spend time troubleshooting, but don’t really know 
where to start. The blanking happens too quickly for me to be able to 
do anything at the time.


Does anyone have any thoughts?



I see the same thing on my smart-tv, while watching movies from my 
laptop.


If you have a smart-tv then you have a tv with a computer in it and 
it's try to communicate with your computer and your computer is trying 
to communicate with your tv, not a good thing.  Both Wheezy and Jessie 
with no-systemd do not have this behavior. Maybe the problem can be 
fixed, maybe.


Cheers,

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[David Wright]

On Fri 01 Jun 2018 at 09:08:53 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 08:21 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >>>The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
> >>>back and plays "gadget" [...]
> >
> >>The gadget API is the programming API offered by the kernel for the OTG
> >>ports: no OTG => no gadget!
> >>
> >>>[OTG]
> >
> >>More importantly, the USB ports which support OTG are driven by
> >>different hardware.
> >
> >Ah, so the hardware has to play along...
> >
> >>Right, you need both your hardware's USB port to support OTG and you
> >>need your kernel to have a driver that supports this hardware.
> >>AFAIK the driver is usually available.
> >
> >Did I say I was handwaving?
> >
> >Thanks for the clarifications!
> >
> 
> It also suggests that I frequently grasp some of the implications of
> what I read. Thank you.
> As an illustration of my mindset:
> If they had really intended USB to be *UNIVERSAL* serial bus, then
> it should have been OTG from the get go.
> P.S. I know of thousands of reasons they did not.
>  Vast majority preceded by $ ;/

I think you're misunderstanding the use of the word universal.
USB was designed to be a universal way of connecting "any"
peripherals to a PC (sensu lato) which acts as a unique,
controlling host for them.

It wasn't designed to duplicate networking hardware, communicating
between multiple hosts. Nor was OTG. OTG was designed to allow, for
example, what's normally a peripheral to be disconnected from the
host, be connected to a peripheral and effectively become a host
controlling it. Eg, a camera could act as a peripheral while
uploading photos to a PC, then act as a host when connected to an
inkjet to print them.

Cheers,
David.

Re: É possível utilizar um projetor de diapositivo interativo com o Debian?

[Leandro Nobrega]

Boa noite Marcelo,

A opção que encontro é baixar o executável para windows e utilizar o wine.

Att.:

*Leandro Nóbrega*
*leanobr...@gmail.com *



Em 1 de junho de 2018 18:44, Ya'aqov Ben Nun 
escreveu:

> Como é essa interação?
> Nunca tinha visto a respeito.
>
>
> Em 31 de mai de 2018 19:33, "Marcelo Laia" 
> escreveu:
>
> Olá,
>
> Temos alguns projetores Epson Brightlink 475wi+ (https://is.gd/ZJFtSm) que
> possui função de interatividade. Mas, no site da Epson só tem drivers para
> Windows. Alguém sabe como utilizar as funções de interatividade com o
> Debian
> (testing)?
>
> Obrigado!
>
>
> --
> Marcelo
>
>
>

Virt-manager no Windows

[Sérgio Abrantes Junior]

Pessoal,

Tenho um projeto de virtualização onde o cliente precisa acessar o
virt-manager que está no Debian a partir do Windows.
Se isso inviabiliza o projeto.
De um linux, consigo fazer um ssh -x IP e rodar o virt-manager remotamente.
Pelo Windows, achei alguma coisa utilizando xming, mas não consegui fazer
funcionar.

Alguém já fez funcionar esse cenário?

Até!

Sérgio Abrantes

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 02:16:47PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
USB-Ethernet dongles would be a lot more useful in the long term 
than USB-Serial dongles.


*WHO* said anything about a "USB-Serial dongle"?
I want a USB-USB object. Subtle, but important, distinction.


Well, you started out talking about RS232 and null modem cables, so 
don't be surprised if people are having trouble figuring out what you're 
asking for. Then you asked for better ideas. Then you got mad about all 
the ideas and started laughing hysterically. I have no idea what you 
actually want at this point.


RS-232 had a really good 40 year run, but for general communications 
it was mostly obsolete nearly 20 years ago. You mentioned file 
transfers-


So what?
I get grief for not mentioning immediate goals.
I casually mention a potential use and get *UNIVERSAL ADVICE*:
   Don't do that. !


So you can't articulate what you're trying to do at all? That will 
certainly reduce the odds of getting helpful advice.


It seems like you want to connect two computers via USB "just because". 
Good luck with that.


Mike Stone

Re: Intermittent blank screen – Stretch

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 05/31/2018 04:27 PM, Mike wrote:
I have just installed Stretch and and randomly getting a 2 second (or 
so) blank screen. I can go for quite some time without it happening, or 
it can happen several times over a few minutes. I can dual boot with 
Jessie and do not have the problem with that – so I think I can rule out 
a hardware issue.


I have an Nvidia GTX1050 video card, HDMI output to a Samsung 49" TV, 4K 
video. There is no other type of input into the TV for me to be able to 
test.


Here is what I have done
1. Installed Stretch (amd64) with XFCE
2. apt-get install firmware-linux nvidia-driver nvidia-settings 
nvidia-xconfig

3. run nvidia-xconfig
4. turned off screen blanking in power settings

I am quite happy to spend time troubleshooting, but don’t really know 
where to start. The blanking happens too quickly for me to be able to do 
anything at the time.


Does anyone have any thoughts?



I see the same thing on my smart-tv, while watching movies from my laptop.

If you have a smart-tv then you have a tv with a computer in it and it's 
try to communicate with your computer and your computer is trying to 
communicate with your tv, not a good thing.  Both Wheezy and Jessie with 
no-systemd do not have this behavior.  Maybe the problem can be fixed, 
maybe.


Cheers,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Devuan Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda5
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: É possível utilizar um projetor de diapositivo interativo com o Debian?

[Marcelo Laia]

On 01/06/18 at 06:44, Ya'aqov Ben Nun wrote:
> Como é essa interação?
> Nunca tinha visto a respeito.

Ele projeta os diapositivos, como um projetor qualquer. A diferença é que você
tem uma caneta e pode interagir, como num quadro branco. Eis um vídeo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tTotGZVbz8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNDHFokoRgI


-- 
Marcelo

Re: É possível utilizar um projetor de diapositivo interativo com o Debian?

[Ya'aqov Ben Nun]

Como é essa interação?
Nunca tinha visto a respeito.


Em 31 de mai de 2018 19:33, "Marcelo Laia"  escreveu:

Olá,

Temos alguns projetores Epson Brightlink 475wi+ (https://is.gd/ZJFtSm) que
possui função de interatividade. Mas, no site da Epson só tem drivers para
Windows. Alguém sabe como utilizar as funções de interatividade com o Debian
(testing)?

Obrigado!


-- 
Marcelo

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Andy Smith]

Richard,

On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 02:16:47PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 09:01 AM, Michael Stone wrote:
> >I can't think of any applications where that's going to be better
> >over a pair of USB-Serial dongles than a pair of USB-Ethernet
> >dongles.
> 
> Please read my stated goals.
> Not my PREsumed goals.
> *ROFL*

Laugh all you want at people trying to help you, but time and time
again you end up posting volumes of text here without finding a
solution because you suck at concisely describing what you want to
achieve. Everyone else fails to understand you, every time, so is
everyone just stupid, or is it that the common factor here is you?

Your first email said you wanted your machines to "communicate".
That's as specific as you got.

Dan then tried to narrow it down to one specific form of
communication by spending a lot of their time listing out everything
they could think of that you might have meant, and you replied,
"Your list pretty much covers it." Useless and frustrating.

Then Stefan tried:

> > What kind of "communicate" do you need there?

Your response?

> Essentially any :/

I don't know what kind of response you expect to that uselessly
vague comment. By doing that you force people to spend a lot of
their time trying to cover every base, and then you complain at them
when they try. It really seems like you just want to complain when
people try their best to help you, even against your best efforts.

I expect to just get a barrel of whinging back for this, but I hate
to write a totally useless email myself, so…

You mentioned you want to transfer files.

If both machines have Ethernet interfaces then (as you've already
been advised) the simplest, most reliable and most performant way
will be direct Ethernet connection, or connection via a switch. If
file transfer is your goal, no need to bother with USB.

If somehow these machines don't both have Ethernet and USB really is
the only way, then again as you've already been advised, USB
Ethernet is the way to go.

We are now leaving the realms of simplicity and performance for more
subjective lands of doing things "just because" or for the retro
computing experience. You can certainly use a pair of USB serial adaptors
and then run a null modem cable between them, then run PPP over
that. Absolutely no idea why you would want to do this rather than
run Ethernet over USB. Instead of PPP you could use more arcane
forms of serial data transfer like zmodem or kermit.

If it's just a console you want, i.e. the console output and login
prompt from one machine to appear in a serial terminal program on
the other, then you can do that over Ethernet too! See "netconsole".

For a serial console when you don't have Ethernet (or want it
separate from the Ethernet infrastructure) then again it's USB
serial dongles on both ends, a null modem cable in between, then use
a serial terminal emulator like minicom or screen on the end you
want to be the client. There are configuration details involved for
the server end to get it to send console output to this USB-serial,
and put a login prompt on it.

Ask which parts you need more info on. Please be specific. Please
don't make this harder than it needs to be!

Cheers,
Andy

-- 
https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: soft para scaner

[rv riveravaldez]

2018-06-01 17:15 GMT-03:00 Felix Perez :
> El 1 de junio de 2018, 11:45,   escribió:
>> buenos días a todos
>>
>> Aca con el Pc tengo conectado un escanet hp scanjet pro 2500 f1 y no que
>> se software instalarle para escanear fotos, textos y todo l que necesite.
>>
>> Cuál es el de mejor prestación para Debian ???

Si precisas algo simple y muy liviando, skanlite también es muy recomendable.

Saludos, !

Re: soft para scaner

[Felix Perez]

El 1 de junio de 2018, 11:45,   escribió:
> buenos días a todos
>
> Aca con el Pc tengo conectado un escanet hp scanjet pro 2500 f1 y no que
> se software instalarle para escanear fotos, textos y todo l que necesite.
>
> Cuál es el de mejor prestación para Debian ???
>
>

Depende del scanner en cuestión, de cuan soportado esté.

Yo con canon Lide 100 o con epson L355 y un epson antiguo (no recuerdo
modelo) uso sin problemas Xsane (sane)  e image Scan for linux

Saludos.
-- 
usuario linux  #274354
normas de la lista:  http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista
como hacer preguntas inteligentes:
http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html

Re: Intermittent blank screen – Stretch

[floris]

Mike schreef op 2018-06-01 01:27:

I have just installed Stretch and and randomly getting a 2 second (or
so) blank screen. I can go for quite some time without it happening,
or it can happen several times over a few minutes. I can dual boot
with Jessie and do not have the problem with that – so I think I can
rule out a hardware issue.

I have an Nvidia GTX1050 video card, HDMI output to a Samsung 49" TV,
4K video. There is no other type of input into the TV for me to be
able to test.

Here is what I have done
1. Installed Stretch (amd64) with XFCE
2. apt-get install firmware-linux nvidia-driver nvidia-settings 
nvidia-xconfig

3. run nvidia-xconfig
4. turned off screen blanking in power settings

I am quite happy to spend time troubleshooting, but don’t really know
where to start. The blanking happens too quickly for me to be able to
do anything at the time.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

Thanks

Mike


You can try the NVidia driver module from backports [1] and/or run 
journalctl -f in a terminal and wait for the blank screen.


[1] https://packages.debian.org/stretch-backports/nvidia-driver
---
Floris

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/01/2018 09:01 AM, Michael Stone wrote:

On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:56:32AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 05/31/2018 06:58 PM, David Wright wrote:

(thanks for your link) gives an idea of the price, and in this case I
can see some justification for it because they describe the
electronics hidden inside the plugs (we hope).

But considering that two NICs cost less than that cable, I'd need a
pressing reason to purchase the cable instead.


There is a perceived elegance aspect.
There is also a practical aspect the only known working and 

8>> conveniently physically accessible ports are USB.


USB-Ethernet dongles would be a lot more useful in the long term than 
USB-Serial dongles.


*WHO* said anything about a "USB-Serial dongle"?
I want a USB-USB object. Subtle, but important, distinction.



RS-232 had a really good 40 year run, but for 
general communications it was mostly obsolete nearly 20 years ago. You 
mentioned file transfers-


So what?
I get grief for not mentioning immediate goals.
I casually mention a potential use and get *UNIVERSAL ADVICE*:
Don't do that. !


-I can't think of any applications where
that's going to be better over a pair of USB-Serial dongles than a pair 
of USB-Ethernet dongles.


Please read my stated goals.
Not my PREsumed goals.
*ROFL*



Mike Stone

Re: Mijndomein

[Frans van Berckel]

Hoi Sjoerd,

On Fri, 2018-06-01 at 19:50 +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> Misschien is het al iemand opgevallen? Firefox (ik heb versie 52) is
> ook weer geblokkeerd bij Mijndomein.
> 
> Ze zijn trouwens bezig met een vernieuwing van hun
> webhostingplatform.
> Met o.a. SSL en SFTP.

In 2017 verhuisde ze alles reeds naar AWS en Docker containers ;-)

https://www.meetup.com/MijndomeinLabtalks/events/236044273/

Met vriendelijke groet,

-- 
Frans van Berckel
Media Engineer / Linux Master
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fransvberckel/

Re: Gestion simple pour l'installation / désinstallation de logiciels

[didier gaumet]

Le 01/06/2018 à 18:48, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :
[...]
> gnome-software semble pas fonctionner avec cinnamon, en tout cas sur
> l'onglet "tout" j'ai un grand rectangle gris, avec le titre "Sélection de la
> distribution" mais rien pour faire cette sélection. 
> Et dans l'onglet "Installées" j'ai bien la liste des logiciels installés,
> mais sans les catégories.
[...]

Je suis sous Gnome et pour voir j'ai installé la tâche d'environnement
de bureau Cinnamon (sans désinstaller Gnome): gnome-software a
fonctionné normalement. Je suppose donc que tes problèmes sont dus à un
manque de paramétrage ou à un paramétrage inadapté, ce qui peut arriver
quand on lance certaines applis Gnome avec un autre DE lorsque Gnome
n'est pas installé.
Je serais toi, je jetterais un oeil à dconf (en CLI ou en GUI) pour
chercher des variables susceptibles d'améliorer la situation,
probablement dans org/gnome/software.

Et sinon, à titre personnel, autant je concevais l'utilité de Mate et
Cinnamon aux débuts de Gnome3 (et encore, je préférais Xfce), autant
maintenant la session Gnome Classic me suffit, même si je conçois
évidemment que ça puisse ne pas être le cas de tout le monde :-)

Mijndomein

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Misschien is het al iemand opgevallen? Firefox (ik heb versie 52) is
ook weer geblokkeerd bij Mijndomein.

Ze zijn trouwens bezig met een vernieuwing van hun webhostingplatform.
Met o.a. SSL en SFTP.

Re: Gestion simple pour l'installation / désinstallation de logiciels

[winnt]

Bonsoir,

Vous pensez peut-être à Synaptic.

Re: Thinkpad T420 resume from sleep via laptop lid doesn't work

[Hans]

Am Freitag, 1. Juni 2018, 19:30:28 CEST schrieb Marcel:
Yes, I did, but as I said before: It worked a long time, but some say after 
some upgrade (without any configuration changes), it stopped suddenly working. 

So, one in the chain (kernel, laptop-mode-tools, dbus,  whatever) is buggy.

Best 

Hans 

> Have you tried laptop-mode-tools? Maybe this helps :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marcel
>

Re: Gestion simple pour l'installation / désinstallation de logiciels

[Raphaël POITEVIN]

Daniel Caillibaud  writes:
> Je suis en train d'installer une stretch pour qqun pas spécialement féru
> d'informatique, et je trouve plus le truc que j'avais vu y'a un paquet
> d'années où il suffisait de cocher pour installer et décocher pour
> désinstaller, avec la même présentation que le menu de démarrage, et les
> même icônes.

Synaptic ? Mais pas hyper convivial non plus.
-- 
Raphaël

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 01 June 2018 06:20:59 Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 05/31/2018 10:07 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> >> I have two computers with USB ports.
> >> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers
> >> did.
> >
> > What kind of "communicate" do you need there?
>
> Essentially any ;/
> In fact one of the thought experiments I was pursuing was how to do
> file copying/sharing over RS232 - even I would not actually attempt to
> implement.

Other than speed of the copy while the error correction verify's it 
sector by sector, why not. Both rsync and rzsz are quite capable of 
sending a file halfway around the planet with the last 17 miles on a 
barbed wire fence. And getting identical crc's in the final check.

For a circuit that was actually that dirty, I think I'd choose rzsz as 
its default packet size is 256 bytes.  If the crc of that packet fails, 
it requests a resend until it gets it right. So does rsync, but rsync's 
default packet is 64k, demanding a far cleaner path. rzsz unforch has 
several cousins 3x removed, so there is less than 100% compatibility. 
And the linux version is one of the worse compatibility violators.

> > The "way back machine" to simulate a "null modem" serial cable
> > exists, as you've seen, but it's rarely the best solution for
> > nowadays's needs,
>
> "Best" is not an invariant absolute.
>
> > since nowadays connecting two computers is something completely
> > normal, supported by a deluge of tools, but they all expect a
> > "network" connection rather than a serial cable.
> >
> > In most cases those two computers also have ethernet or wifi "ports"
> > so you can connect them via such a network (which usually offers
> > faster transmission than a serial cable, lets you seamlessly
> > multiplex several connections, and lets you use the many tools
> > working over the network to connect computers).
>
> An explicit requirement is a wired, NOT WiFi, connection.
> I that seriously. My internet access is a WiFi hotspot with its WiFi
> capability disabled.
>
> > In some cases one of the two computers's USB port is an "OTG" port,
> > meaning that it can act either as "master" or not, in which case you
> > can just use a regular USB cable (and usually you then configure the
> > OTG side to pretend it's a network card, so it ends up looking to
> > the software like you've connected the two machines via an ethernet
> > cable. That's what I use between my BananaPi "router" and my office
> > desktop).
>
> I saw it and it meets most (all?) my requirements except my reading
> suggested:
>1. obsolete
>2. available only for Windows/Mac
>3. no way to determine if any of machines were equipped
>
> > If none of that are options, you can resort to using an "ethernet
> > dongle" on both sides and an ethernet cable between the two.
>
> That's a 1 versus 3 items required per connection.
>
> > All of those things will typically work "out of the box" on a
> > vanilla Linux kernel (the usbnet drivers have been incorporated
> > years ago).
> >
> > Oh, and in case those computers are somewhat old, they may also come
> > with Firewire ports, and those (contrary to USB) don't have the
> > "slave/master" distinction so you can connect your computers this
> > way with a plain normal Firewire cable (and make it appear to the
> > software, again, as some kind of ethernet-like connection).
> >
> >
> >  Stefan



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Joe]

On Fri, 1 Jun 2018 10:01:57 -0400
Michael Stone  wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:56:32AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >On 05/31/2018 06:58 PM, David Wright wrote:  
> >>(thanks for your link) gives an idea of the price, and in this case
> >>I can see some justification for it because they describe the
> >>electronics hidden inside the plugs (we hope).
> >>
> >>But considering that two NICs cost less than that cable, I'd need a
> >>pressing reason to purchase the cable instead.  
> >
> >There is a perceived elegance aspect.
> >There is also a practical aspect the only known working and 
> >conveniently physically accessible ports are USB.  
> 
> USB-Ethernet dongles would be a lot more useful in the long term than 
> USB-Serial dongles. RS-232 had a really good 40 year run, but for 
> general communications it was mostly obsolete nearly 20 years ago.
> You mentioned file transfers--I can't think of any applications where
> that's going to be better over a pair of USB-Serial dongles than a
> pair of USB-Ethernet dongles.
> 
>
Radio? This gadget:

https://www.lensadaptor.com/mtf-effect-control-unit-3-kit

 uses straight point-to-point 8-bit serial over Zigbee type RF
tranceivers. Bluetooth is basically 8-bit serial over radio, though
with a very short range.

-- 
Joe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zigbee

Re: Thinkpad T420 resume from sleep via laptop lid doesn't work

[Marcel]

Have you tried laptop-mode-tools? Maybe this helps :)

Cheers,

Marcel


On 06/01/2018 05:12 PM, Ryan Nowakowski wrote:

Hello All!

I have a T420 that doesn't resume when the laptop lid is opened.  I put
it to sleep by closing the lid.  When I open the lid, the disk indicator
flashes and then stops.  The power button led remains pulsing as if it's
still asleep.  If I press the power button at this point nothing happens.

Resume from sleep seems to work fine if I put the laptop to sleep via
dbus with the lid still open and then resume by pressing the power button.

I have tried both Stretch(stable) and testing with the same issue.  I
have upgraded the BIOS to the latest(and what a chore that was).  I'm
out of ideas.  Has anyone seen this particular problem before?  Any
suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Ryan






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Re: Actualizar a OpenGL 3

[eduardo gil]

SÍ, la Dell Latitude E6410 soporta open GL
Lo dice la misma página de Dell que tiene driver para Windows

https://www.dell.com/support/home/ar/es/arbsdt1/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=2W14W

Para instalarlo en Linux 
Primero fijate si cuentas con aceleración gráfica, teclea esto en una terminal:

glxinfo | grep rendering

si la respuesta es: direct rendering: Yes, entonces tienes aceleración gráfica.

SINO... puedes instalar "MESA" desde el terminal o el Sinaptics



El vie 1-jun-18, Alejandro Jurado  escribió:

 Asunto: Actualizar a OpenGL 3
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Fecha: viernes, 1 de junio de 2018, 13:48
 
 Hola lista,
 
 Alguien sabe como puedo averiguar si mi
 equipo soporta OpenGL 3 y si lo
 hace como actualizar los drivers de
 OpenGL. He investigado un poco por
 internet y la verdad es que no he
 logrado mucho.
 
 Mi portátil es un Dell Latitude E6410
 con un i5 y 4 Gb de RAM (ya tiene
 sus añitos) con Debian Stretch con KDE
 instalado. Y el chip gráfico es
 de Intel.
 
 
 
 

Re: Nvidia 340 driver bug

[floris]

Pétùr schreef op 2018-05-31 16:20:

I have a recurrent bug with the nvidia 340 driver.

Here is the trace. Any idea is welcomed.

Pétùr

[6.748358] [ cut here ]
[6.748361] Bad or missing usercopy whitelist? Kernel memory
exposure attempt detected from SLUB object 'nvidia_stack_t' (offset
11864, size 3)!
[6.748371] WARNING: CPU: 6 PID: 702 at
/build/linux-43CEzF/linux-4.16.12/mm/usercopy.c:81
usercopy_warn+0x7e/0xa0
[6.748372] Modules linked in: snd_hda_codec_hdmi pktcdvd arc4
pcmcia dell_rbtn iwldvm dell_wmi wmi_bmof iTCO_wdt sparse_keymap
iTCO_vendor_support snd_hda_codec_idt uvcvideo dell_laptop
intel_powerclamp snd_hda_codec_generic mac80211 dell_smbios coretemp
videobuf2_vmalloc dell_wmi_descriptor videobuf2_memops kvm_intel
dcdbas videobuf2_v4l2 dell_smm_hwmon snd_hda_intel videobuf2_common
kvm videodev irqbypass snd_hda_codec iwlwifi intel_cstate media evdev
yenta_socket joydev snd_hda_core intel_uncore snd_hwdep serio_raw
snd_pcm pcspkr pcmcia_rsrc sg cfg80211 pcmcia_core snd_timer rfkill
snd mei_me soundcore i7core_edac mei lpc_ich shpchp nvidia(PO) wmi
battery binfmt_misc dell_smo8800 video ac acpi_cpufreq button drm
parport_pc ppdev lp parport sunrpc ip_tables x_tables autofs4 ext4
crc16 mbcache
[6.748407]  jbd2 fscrypto ecb crypto_simd cryptd glue_helper
aes_x86_64 raid10 raid456 async_raid6_recov async_memcpy async_pq
async_xor async_tx xor hid_logitech_hidpp hid_logitech_dj hid_generic
usbhid hid raid6_pq libcrc32c crc32c_generic raid1 raid0 multipath
linear md_mod sr_mod cdrom sd_mod sdhci_pci ehci_pci cqhci ahci
libahci ehci_hcd libata crc32c_intel sdhci psmouse firewire_ohci
i2c_i801 scsi_mod firewire_core mmc_core crc_itu_t usbcore e1000e
usb_common
[6.748432] CPU: 6 PID: 702 Comm: Xorg Tainted: P   O
4.16.0-2-amd64 #1 Debian 4.16.12-1
[6.748432] Hardware name: Dell Inc. Precision M4500/, BIOS A14 
07/11/2013

[6.748434] RIP: 0010:usercopy_warn+0x7e/0xa0
[6.748435] RSP: 0018:a77b01ef3bb8 EFLAGS: 00010286
[6.748436] RAX:  RBX: 98d83805ae58 RCX: 
0006
[6.748437] RDX: 0007 RSI: 0082 RDI: 
98d86fd96730
[6.748438] RBP: 0003 R08: 035b R09: 
0004
[6.748438] R10: a3a77220 R11: 0001 R12: 
0001
[6.748439] R13: 98d83805ae5b R14: 98d83805ae58 R15: 
98d83805aea0

[6.748440] FS:  7fb60fa256c0() GS:98d86fd8()
knlGS:
[6.748441] CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 80050033
[6.748442] CR2: 7fb6069ca000 CR3: 00020e118000 CR4: 
06e0

[6.748443] Call Trace:
[6.748448]  __check_object_size+0x9c/0x1a0
[6.748540]  os_memcpy_to_user+0x21/0x40 [nvidia]
[6.748618]  _nv001372rm+0xa5/0x260 [nvidia]
[6.748696]  ? _nv004784rm+0x4eba/0x5500 [nvidia]
[6.748773]  ? _nv004331rm+0xec/0xf0 [nvidia]
[6.748849]  ? _nv004326rm+0xca/0x650 [nvidia]
[6.748923]  ? _nv015126rm+0x576/0x5c0 [nvidia]
[6.748999]  ? _nv000694rm+0x2e/0x60 [nvidia]
[6.749068]  ? _nv000789rm+0x5f5/0x8b0 [nvidia]
[6.749134]  ? rm_ioctl+0x73/0x100 [nvidia]
[6.749182]  ? nvidia_ioctl+0x221/0x460 [nvidia]
[6.749231]  ? nvidia_frontend_ioctl+0x2d/0x60 [nvidia]
[6.749279]  ? nvidia_frontend_unlocked_ioctl+0x19/0x20 [nvidia]
[6.749281]  ? do_vfs_ioctl+0xa4/0x630
[6.749283]  ? vfs_write+0x12f/0x1a0
[6.749284]  ? SyS_ioctl+0x74/0x80
[6.749287]  ? do_syscall_64+0x6c/0x130
[6.749290]  ? entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x3d/0xa2
[6.749291] Code: 48 c7 c0 f1 d2 a3 a3 48 0f 44 c2 41 50 51 41 51
48 89 f9 49 89 f1 4d 89 d8 4c 89 d2 48 89 c6 48 c7 c7 38 d3 a3 a3 e8
62 4c e4 ff <0f> 0b 48 83 c4 18 c3 48 c7 c6 3c d3 a4 a3 49 89 f1 49 89
f3 eb [6.749313] ---[ end trace dc2afdad83c552e7 ]---


This is a bug in the nvidia driver module. There is not much you can do 
until it is fixed upstream.


https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1031067/
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=899201

---
Floris

Actualizar a OpenGL 3

[Alejandro Jurado]

Hola lista,

Alguien sabe como puedo averiguar si mi equipo soporta OpenGL 3 y si lo
hace como actualizar los drivers de OpenGL. He investigado un poco por
internet y la verdad es que no he logrado mucho.

Mi portátil es un Dell Latitude E6410 con un i5 y 4 Gb de RAM (ya tiene
sus añitos) con Debian Stretch con KDE instalado. Y el chip gráfico es
de Intel.

Gestion simple pour l'installation / désinstallation de logiciels

[Daniel Caillibaud]

Bonjour,

Je suis en train d'installer une stretch pour qqun pas spécialement féru
d'informatique, et je trouve plus le truc que j'avais vu y'a un paquet
d'années où il suffisait de cocher pour installer et décocher pour
désinstaller, avec la même présentation que le menu de démarrage, et les
même icônes.

C'est pour fonctionner avec cinnamon.

J'ai bien trouvé gnome-packagekit et gnome-software, mais c'est pas
terrible :

1) gnome-packagekit propose tous les paquets, y'a juste le tri par catégorie
mais ils ont tous la même icone, donc parmi les 90 paquets gimp-*
bon courage pour trouver le bon (nettement plus simple en ligne de
commande, c'est gimp, mais encore faut-il se rappeler du nom, alors que le
chat avec le pinceau ça cause plus).

2) gnome-software semble pas fonctionner avec cinnamon, en tout cas sur
l'onglet "tout" j'ai un grand rectangle gris, avec le titre "Sélection de la
distribution" mais rien pour faire cette sélection. 
Et dans l'onglet "Installées" j'ai bien la liste des logiciels installés,
mais sans les catégories.

J'aurais aimé un truc avec la même présentation que le menu de démarrage,
je déplie "Graphisme" et je vois tout ce que j'ai déjà et tout ce que je
pourrais activer (ça a l'avantage de filtrer en ne conservant que les
paquets qui ajoutent une icone dans un menu, ça tombe bien c'est ceux que
ce genre d'utilisateur voulait, il cherche pas les utilitaires cli).

Apparement j'ai rêvé et ça n'a jamais existé dans debian...

Et apparemment c'est un vieux débat
https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3dl2i1/debian_needs_a_software_center/

Donc probablement que la dernière fois que j'ai vu ce truc remonte à une
ubuntu dapper (la dernière ubuntu que j'ai installé pour ce type de
public, avant de les passer aussi à debian car les upgrade ubuntu posaient
toujours plus de pbs, et j'ai jamais fait attention si ce truc existait
toujours ou pas).

Si qqun connaît qqchose d'approchant, ou un moyen de faire tourner
gnome-software avec cinnamon, je suis preneur.
(même si on est vendredi le but n'était pas de relancer le troll debian vs
ubuntu ni celui de l'utilité d'un software center, car lire "Ubuntu's
software center is horrible, we don't need that. Newbs are not the audience
Debian is aimed at." me désole)

Bon WE quand même !

-- 
Daniel

Certains hommes n'ont que ce qu'ils méritent, 
les autres sont célibataires.
Sacha Guitry

Re: exim4 and TLS Once Again

[Brian]

On Tue 29 May 2018 at 12:00:20 -0500, David Wright wrote:

> On Mon 28 May 2018 at 21:26:59 (-0500), Martin McCormick wrote:
> > 
> > David Wright  writes:
> > > And exim's logs say …?
> > 
> > 2018-05-28 14:56:38 1fNL0J-0003CQ-70 H=smtp.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.68]: 
> > Remote host closed connection in response to initial connection
> > 2018-05-28 14:56:38 1fNL0J-0003CQ-70 == mar...@okstate.edu R=smarthost 
> > T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-18) H=smtp.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.68]: 
> > Remote host closed connection in response to initial connection
> > 
> > That is 100% of the diagnostic help.  With the -d flag, that part
> > still doesn't change.  All one gets with the -d flag is lots of
> > file descriptors opening and closing.
> > 
> > The only thing the log seems to show is that the
> > authentication process goes wrong instantly but no clue whether
> > or what causes that.
> 
> I don't see anything in the log about authentication, only
> "initial connection". That would suggest you haven't even got
> as far as HELO/EHLO.

Indeed, it does mean that. Exim does not admit to knowing anything about
TLS, so the remote server sees no point in going any further.

Create /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/00_my_custom_macros and in it put

  TLS_ON_CONNECT = true

To the end of /etc/exim4/conf.d/transport/30_exim4-config_remote_smtp_smarthost
add

  protocol = smtps

'update-exim4.conf' and restart the exim4 service.

-- 
Brian.

Re: soft para scaner

[eduardo gil]

La opción para scaneo que te brinde la mejor prestación en Linux (hablo e 
general) será aquella que funcione con tu scaner.
NO hay muchas, así que si anda una... quédate conforme.

Lo "mejorcito" son SANE y SimpleScan

Saludos



El vie 1-jun-18,   escribió:

 Asunto: soft para scaner
 Para: "Lista de Debian" 
 Fecha: viernes, 1 de junio de 2018, 12:45
 
 buenos días a todos
 
 Aca con el Pc tengo conectado un
 escanet hp scanjet pro 2500 f1 y no que
 se software instalarle para escanear
 fotos, textos y todo l que necesite.
 
 Cuál es el de mejor prestación para
 Debian ???
 
 
 Agradezco toda opinión, grcias a
 todos
 
 

Re: Thinkpad T420 resume from sleep via laptop lid doesn't work

[Hans]

Am Freitag, 1. Juni 2018, 17:12:01 CEST schrieb Ryan Nowakowski:
Similar problem hier on my EEEPC since over a year:

Going to sleep (suspend-to-disk), then when it has to wake up, you can see, 
the memeory content is loaded into RAM, after that it shuts off and boots 
again from BIOS.

No problem with suspend-to-ram.

I filed a bugreport a year ago and mentioned this also in the forums, but 
since then, no one cared. 

Maybe you the trouble of the same reason like me. 

Runnig here debian/testing (32-Bit) , but saw it also in debian/stable.

 Maybe some day it will be fixed. Maybe not, who knows. :)

Best regards

Hans

> Hello All!
> 
> I have a T420 that doesn't resume when the laptop lid is opened.  I put
> it to sleep by closing the lid.  When I open the lid, the disk indicator
> flashes and then stops.  The power button led remains pulsing as if it's
> still asleep.  If I press the power button at this point nothing happens.
> 
> Resume from sleep seems to work fine if I put the laptop to sleep via
> dbus with the lid still open and then resume by pressing the power button.
> 
> I have tried both Stretch(stable) and testing with the same issue.  I
> have upgraded the BIOS to the latest(and what a chore that was).  I'm
> out of ideas.  Has anyone seen this particular problem before?  Any
> suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Ryan

Re: soft para scaner

[José Tomás Mateo Ruiz]

El vie, 01-06-2018 a las 11:45 -0400, l...@ida.cu escribió:
> buenos días a todos
> 
> Aca con el Pc tengo conectado un escanet hp scanjet pro 2500 f1 y no
> que
> se software instalarle para escanear fotos, textos y todo l que
> necesite.
> 
> Cuál es el de mejor prestación para Debian ???
> 
> 
> Agradezco toda opinión, grcias a todos
> 

Normalmente con el escritorio Gnome, Xfce se instala simple Scan,
funciona muy bien se puede recortar lo escaneado y guardar en PDF, PNG,
JPG.

-- 
(·)>
/|\José Tomás Mateo Ruiz 
\_/_50550 Aragón España
---
En el fondo, los científicos somos gente con suerte: podemos jugar a lo
que queramos durante toda la vida.
-- Lee Smolin. Físico teórico y cosmólogo estadounidense. 

soft para scaner

[luis]

buenos días a todos

Aca con el Pc tengo conectado un escanet hp scanjet pro 2500 f1 y no que
se software instalarle para escanear fotos, textos y todo l que necesite.

Cuál es el de mejor prestación para Debian ???


Agradezco toda opinión, grcias a todos

Thinkpad T420 resume from sleep via laptop lid doesn't work

[Ryan Nowakowski]

Hello All!

I have a T420 that doesn't resume when the laptop lid is opened.  I put
it to sleep by closing the lid.  When I open the lid, the disk indicator
flashes and then stops.  The power button led remains pulsing as if it's
still asleep.  If I press the power button at this point nothing happens.

Resume from sleep seems to work fine if I put the laptop to sleep via
dbus with the lid still open and then resume by pressing the power button.

I have tried both Stretch(stable) and testing with the same issue.  I
have upgraded the BIOS to the latest(and what a chore that was).  I'm
out of ideas.  Has anyone seen this particular problem before?  Any
suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

Ryan

Re: installer met kernel van backports

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hoi,

Op 01-06-18 om 11:30 schreef mj:
> Hoi,
> 
> Kan iemand me een tip geven of (en hoe) het mogelijk is om stretch te
> installeren, maar direct (tijdens installatie dus) met een kernel uit
> backports?
> 
> Het gaat om root-device hardware compatibilty, waarvan ik vermoed dat de
> kernel uit backuports die wèl heeft, en de normale stretch kernel nog niet.
> 
> Ik zou natuurlijk ook een tijdelijk ander root device kunnen gebruiken,
> dan kernel updaten, en dan root device aanpassen. Maar vraag me af of
> bovenstaande oplossing ook (eenvoudig) mogelijk is..?
> 
> Specifiek: het gaat om een server met intel vroc / vmd ssd nvme devices,
> waarop ik dus debian root raid wil installeren.
> 
> (https://downloadmirror.intel.com/27332/eng/Intel(R)_VROC_Linux_5_3_Release_Notes.pdf)

Je had vroeger een backport van de installer, maar dat is niet meer:
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/backports/

Wat ik zou doen, is installeren op een minder nieuwe machine, kernel
updaten, dan de disk overzetten.

Groeten,
Paul


-- 
Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer Groningen
https://www.vandervlis.nl/

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[David Wright]

On Fri 01 Jun 2018 at 05:26:01 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 06/01/2018 01:27 AM, deloptes wrote:
> >Richard Owlett wrote:
> >
> >>I have two computers with USB ports.
> >>I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> >>Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or  appropriate software
> >>software at both ends.
> >>
> >
> >J., why not take a crossover cable - all pcs have now ethernet port
> >
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable
> >
> >
> 
> Some combinations require crossover cable, some don't.
> I investigated that and wen so fa as to purchase a {still shrink
> wrapped} 8-port switch as a solution. Decided clutter not worth it.

Just forget anyone said "crossover cable¹". You'd have to be making a
direct connection between two museum pieces to require one, and as
you have a switch, you have absolutely no need to ever do that.
Coonect both to the switch instead.

Accessibility? Using the NIC (usually at the back), it gets inserted
permanently and then forgotten, rather than needing to be inserted
on each occasion you want connectivity. Tidier too.

Bear in mind you're using the hardware as intended: no risk of
blowing up your USB port. (Ever noticed how often flaky USB ports
are mentioned here?)

You might even find you can use wakeonlan on the desktop PCs
to save some power.

¹ If you *have* obtained one, just use it like an ordinary cable nowadays.

Cheers,
David.

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/01/2018 08:21 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

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On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:

The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
back and plays "gadget" [...]



The gadget API is the programming API offered by the kernel for the OTG
ports: no OTG => no gadget!


[OTG]



More importantly, the USB ports which support OTG are driven by
different hardware.


Ah, so the hardware has to play along...


Right, you need both your hardware's USB port to support OTG and you
need your kernel to have a driver that supports this hardware.
AFAIK the driver is usually available.


Did I say I was handwaving?

Thanks for the clarifications!



It also suggests that I frequently grasp some of the implications of 
what I read. Thank you.

As an illustration of my mindset:
If they had really intended USB to be *UNIVERSAL* serial bus, then it 
should have been OTG from the get go.

P.S. I know of thousands of reasons they did not.
 Vast majority preceded by $ ;/

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Michael Stone]

On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 04:56:32AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 05/31/2018 06:58 PM, David Wright wrote:

(thanks for your link) gives an idea of the price, and in this case I
can see some justification for it because they describe the
electronics hidden inside the plugs (we hope).

But considering that two NICs cost less than that cable, I'd need a
pressing reason to purchase the cable instead.


There is a perceived elegance aspect.
There is also a practical aspect the only known working and 
conveniently physically accessible ports are USB.


USB-Ethernet dongles would be a lot more useful in the long term than 
USB-Serial dongles. RS-232 had a really good 40 year run, but for 
general communications it was mostly obsolete nearly 20 years ago. You 
mentioned file transfers--I can't think of any applications where
that's going to be better over a pair of USB-Serial dongles than a pair 
of USB-Ethernet dongles.


Mike Stone

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[tomas]

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On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:23:42AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
> > back and plays "gadget" [...]

> The gadget API is the programming API offered by the kernel for the OTG
> ports: no OTG => no gadget!
> 
> > [OTG]

> More importantly, the USB ports which support OTG are driven by
> different hardware.

Ah, so the hardware has to play along...

> Right, you need both your hardware's USB port to support OTG and you
> need your kernel to have a driver that supports this hardware.
> AFAIK the driver is usually available.

Did I say I was handwaving?

Thanks for the clarifications!

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Stefan Monnier]

> The one choice you have is that one of both sides takes a step
> back and plays "gadget" (the jargon term, somewhat unfortunate
> as search engine fodder). There seems to be something out there
> for that, e.g. [2].

The gadget API is the programming API offered by the kernel for the OTG
ports: no OTG => no gadget!

> The other choice seems to be USB On The Go (aka "OTG") [3].
> You seem to need a special cable for that.

More importantly, the USB ports which support OTG are driven by
different hardware.

> There seem to be Linux drivers to let the USB "stack" play along
> with OTG [4], but I have no experience whatsoever with this

Right, you need both your hardware's USB port to support OTG and you
need your kernel to have a driver that supports this hardware.
AFAIK the driver is usually available.


Stefan

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Stefan Monnier]

>> In some cases one of the two computers's USB port is an "OTG" port,
>> meaning that it can act either as "master" or not, in which case you can
>> just use a regular USB cable (and usually you then configure the OTG
>> side to pretend it's a network card, so it ends up looking to the
>> software like you've connected the two machines via an ethernet cable.
>> That's what I use between my BananaPi "router" and my office desktop).
>
> I saw it and it meets most (all?) my requirements except my reading
> suggested:
>   1. obsolete
>   2. available only for Windows/Mac
>   3. no way to determine if any of machines were equipped

Not obsolete at all.
Availability has nothing to do with the OS (I never use either of macOS
or Windows).

But yes, OTG rare (read: non-existing) on laptops/desktops.
They're very common on "embedded systems" which are expected to be
(occasionally) plugged into a computer.  E.g. many phones's USB port
is OTG.

>> If none of that are options, you can resort to using an "ethernet
>> dongle" on both sides and an ethernet cable between the two.
> That's a 1 versus 3 items required per connection.

I just gave you alternatives.  You'll let you decide what's better for
your planned use cases.


Stefan

Re: exim4 and TLS Once Again

[Brian]

On Wed 30 May 2018 at 20:58:12 -0400, Michael Stone wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 06:22:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> > AIUI 587 is the standard email submission port and 465 is now
> > deprecated but often still in use. I think they differ in the
> > details of how they handle encrypting the session.
> 
> > From a protocol standpoint 587/tcp is identical to 25/tcp, with the
> distinction that it is designated for a end-users to submit messages for
> delivery rather than accepting mail for delivery from external mail relays.
> The expectation is that there is authentication of the submission, either
> via allowed IPs, SMTP AUTH, or some other mechanism.  Networks can block
> port 25 to reduce spam originating from the network, but allow 587 for
> visitors to submit email to their provider for delivery. Encryption is
> activated with STARTTLS.

TLS is not offered by suddenlink.net on port 587:

 brian@stretch:~# nc smtp.suddenlink.net 587
 220 omta01.suddenlink.net ESMTP server (InterMail vM.8.04.03.22 
201-2389-100-167-20150619) ready Fri, 1 Jun 2018 06:45:17 -0500
 ehlo test
 250-omta01.suddenlink.net
 250-HELP
 250-XREMOTEQUEUE
 250-ETRN
 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN
 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN
 250-PIPELINING
 250-DSN
 250-8BITMIME
 250 SIZE 52428800

Exim will have to use "AUTH_CLIENT_ALLOW_NOTLS_PASSWORDS = true".

-- 
Brian.

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/01/2018 01:27 AM, deloptes wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:


I have two computers with USB ports.
I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or  appropriate software
software at both ends.



J., why not take a crossover cable - all pcs have now ethernet port

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable




Some combinations require crossover cable, some don't.
I investigated that and wen so fa as to purchase a {still shrink 
wrapped} 8-port switch as a solution. Decided clutter not worth it.

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[Richard Owlett]

On 05/31/2018 10:07 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:

I have two computers with USB ports.
I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.


What kind of "communicate" do you need there?


Essentially any ;/
In fact one of the thought experiments I was pursuing was how to do file 
copying/sharing over RS232 - even I would not actually attempt to implement.




The "way back machine" to simulate a "null modem" serial cable exists,
as you've seen, but it's rarely the best solution for nowadays's needs,


"Best" is not an invariant absolute.


since nowadays connecting two computers is something completely normal,
supported by a deluge of tools, but they all expect a "network"
connection rather than a serial cable.

In most cases those two computers also have ethernet or wifi "ports" so
you can connect them via such a network (which usually offers faster
transmission than a serial cable, lets you seamlessly multiplex several
connections, and lets you use the many tools working over the network to
connect computers).


An explicit requirement is a wired, NOT WiFi, connection.
I that seriously. My internet access is a WiFi hotspot with its WiFi 
capability disabled.




In some cases one of the two computers's USB port is an "OTG" port,
meaning that it can act either as "master" or not, in which case you can
just use a regular USB cable (and usually you then configure the OTG
side to pretend it's a network card, so it ends up looking to the
software like you've connected the two machines via an ethernet cable.
That's what I use between my BananaPi "router" and my office desktop).


I saw it and it meets most (all?) my requirements except my reading 
suggested:

  1. obsolete
  2. available only for Windows/Mac
  3. no way to determine if any of machines were equipped



If none of that are options, you can resort to using an "ethernet
dongle" on both sides and an ethernet cable between the two.


That's a 1 versus 3 items required per connection.



All of those things will typically work "out of the box" on a vanilla
Linux kernel (the usbnet drivers have been incorporated years ago).

Oh, and in case those computers are somewhat old, they may also come
with Firewire ports, and those (contrary to USB) don't have the
"slave/master" distinction so you can connect your computers this way
with a plain normal Firewire cable (and make it appear to the software,
again, as some kind of ethernet-like connection).


 Stefan

Re: Intermittent blank screen – Stretch

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 11:27:46AM +1200, Mike wrote:
I have just installed Stretch and and randomly getting a 2 second (or 
so) blank screen. I can go for quite some time without it happening, 
or it can happen several times over a few minutes. I can dual boot 
with Jessie and do not have the problem with that – so I think I can 
rule out a hardware issue.


I have an Nvidia GTX1050 video card, HDMI output to a Samsung 49" TV, 
4K video. There is no other type of input into the TV for me to be 
able to test.


Here is what I have done
1. Installed Stretch (amd64) with XFCE
2. apt-get install firmware-linux nvidia-driver nvidia-settings 
nvidia-xconfig

3. run nvidia-xconfig
4. turned off screen blanking in power settings

I am quite happy to spend time troubleshooting, but don’t really know 
where to start. The blanking happens too quickly for me to be able to 
do anything at the time.


Does anyone have any thoughts?


Are you able to replace the HDMI cable? Intermittent blanking for a 
couple of seconds sounds to me like an interruption in the stream of 
data going to the display, causing the display to reset.




Thanks

Mike




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installer met kernel van backports

[mj]

Hoi,

Kan iemand me een tip geven of (en hoe) het mogelijk is om stretch te 
installeren, maar direct (tijdens installatie dus) met een kernel uit 
backports?


Het gaat om root-device hardware compatibilty, waarvan ik vermoed dat de 
kernel uit backuports die wèl heeft, en de normale stretch kernel nog niet.


Ik zou natuurlijk ook een tijdelijk ander root device kunnen gebruiken, 
dan kernel updaten, en dan root device aanpassen. Maar vraag me af of 
bovenstaande oplossing ook (eenvoudig) mogelijk is..?


Specifiek: het gaat om een server met intel vroc / vmd ssd nvme devices, 
waarop ik dus debian root raid wil installeren.


(https://downloadmirror.intel.com/27332/eng/Intel(R)_VROC_Linux_5_3_Release_Notes.pdf)

MJ

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[tomas]

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On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 08:27:13AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> 
> > I have two computers with USB ports.
> > I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> > Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or  appropriate software
> > software at both ends.
> > 
> 
> J., why not take a crossover cable - all pcs have now ethernet port

FWIW these days, most devices are capable of doing the crossover thing
automatically [1], so you can just use a straight cable. From personal
experience, I haven't needed a crossover cable the last ten years (and
I do muck around with oldish hardware).

Cheers

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface#Auto_MDI-X

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Hibernation is not working after upgrading frmo Jessie to Stretch.

[Piotr]

Dear all,

Recently I upgraded my Debian Jessie to Stretch and I noticed that hibernation 
does not work anymore.

When I try to hibernate to disk the process of saving the current memory state 
seems to be doing the job correctly. However, when I start the laptop I see 
that restoring the state begins, but in the middle laptop reboots and starts 
normal booting instead of restoring after hibernation.

Which logs should I submit in order to get some help?

Kind regards,
Piotr 

Re: Upgrade from Jessie to Stretch: Bluetooth mouse is not working.

[Piotr]

On Thu, 31 May 2018 11:04:10 -0500
"Martin McCormick"  wrote:
 
>   You might search web archives and internet discussion
> groups to see if there is a replacement driver for the mouse
> which is a real shame since it used to work but that particular
> module doesn't work which is valuable information but not, of
> course, what you wanted to know.

Any hints where to start and what to look for?

I bought this mouse because it was really silent and cheap (APOINT M302) and it 
was working with Debian Jessie.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Bluetooth-Ultra-thin-Rechargeable-Wireless-Mouse-Silent-Button-2015-computer-mouse-for-laptop-gift-mice/32368987723.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dCuQb1a

Officially Linux support was not mentioned, so it might be difficult to find a 
drivers for it.
I wonder what was changed between Debian releases  that this mouse is no longer 
working correctly? For me looks like a regression which should be fixed. Should 
I reported this as a bug? If "yes" then which module/driver should I specify as 
a victim?

 
>   Can you get any other bluetooth device to pair and
> actually work with the dongle such as a headset or keyboard?

Yes, I was able to successfully connect some remote controller/gamepad which 
also has mouse option:

https://www.amazon.de/ddLUCK-Universal-Wireless-Controller-Bluetooth-Remote/dp/B01ICYZ7ZI/ref=sr_1_12/262-6869085-0156757?ie=UTF8=1527838130=8-12=mocute

Maybe I should also try with another BT mouse to see if it has the same issue 
or not.
 
>   There are a lot of moving parts here such as the usb
> driver for the dongle and then there is the communication between
> the bluetooth device and the dongle.
> 
>   dmesg and syslog are very good tools in cases like this
> but the messages you will read aren't always the answers to the
> question of why this or that is happening.  They certainly do
> help you ask new questions and sometimes rule out rabbit holes
> you don't need to waste your time going down which is a blessing
> as the world of making the technology work for you is a regular
> warren of rabbit holes and anything that narrows down the
> solution is a force multiplier.
> 
>   One guess is that the driver for the bluetooth dongle is
> causing the grief because it sees events that it doesn't
> understand from the mouse.  It should understand every mouse move
> and button press so they can be passed on to the appropriate
> function calls related to mouse activity. The OS has mouse
> function calls and the driver translates mouse movement data in
> to steps that are either along the X or Y axese.  It doesn't have
> to do anything but feed those steps to the OS by making the
> appropriate function calls for movement and clicks.  It
> apparently can't do that so you need a different driver.
> 
>   It might also be that another bluetooth mouse speaks a
> different language and the driver understands it and works
> properly so I hope this gives you more food for thought.
> 
>   I don't really know anything specific to your problem so
> I am speaking in generalities as I have seen a number of usb
> devices such as a usb apple modem that shows activity in syslog
> when you plug it in to a usb port but due to a lack of a driver,
> it does absolutely nothing under Linux but get slightly warm to
> the touch.  Plug it in to a Mac and you're in to the dialup
> business.
> 
> Martin McCormick
> 

Thanks for elaborate explanation.

Kind regards,
Piotr

Re: USB "null modem" cables and related Linux driver questions

[deloptes]

Richard Owlett wrote:

> I have two computers with USB ports.
> I wish them to communicate as simply as mid-20th-century computers did.
> Then we used RS232-C with a null modem &/or  appropriate software
> software at both ends.
> 

J., why not take a crossover cable - all pcs have now ethernet port

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_crossover_cable