Re: Webmail?

[Philippe Clérié]

On 06/29/2018 04:04 PM, Joe wrote:

I've just spent half an afternoon trying first roundcube then prayer.


You probably skipped a couple of steps there. Before prayer, I usually 
go through head banging, hair pulling, troubleshooting, not to mention 
copious swearing, then maybe some sleep. The solution is often obvious 
in the morning, when I find that my problems were self inflicted.


:-D


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Re: [OT] Puede un ISP bloquear solo algunas conexiones a puertos externos?

[Felix Perez]

El 29 de junio de 2018, 10:41, kazabe  escribió:
> 2018-06-28 15:24 GMT-05:00 Paynalton :
>> algunos ISP, sobre todo aquellos que se relacionan con Alestra y AT,
>> bloquean el puerto 25 para evitar que sus clientes se vuelvan spammers.

¿Y le consultaste a tu proveedor?  Yo creo que debes partir por ahí primero.

>>
>> Puedes pelear un rato con ellos y después habilitar el puerto 26.
>>
>
> Justo para prevenir eso tengo habilitado el 587 y el 465 para smtps.
> El problema que me esta afectando es que de todos modos la
> conversacion entre servidores de correo se da por el puerto 25, por lo
> cual si no logro llegar al 25 del servidor destino desde mi servidor,
> me quedo con ellos en cola.
>
> Saludos.
>



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Re: Webmail?

[Dominik George]

Hi,

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 09:04:16PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> Anyone know of a webmail that works on stretch?
> 
> I've just spent half an afternoon trying first roundcube then prayer.
> 
> Roundcube works (allegedly) with apache. I'm not an expert on apache2,
> but as far as I can see, there is an apache2.conf existing and enabled
> for roundcube, and it leads via an alias to a real index.php in the
> right place. I just get a 404, and I've tried with and without a
> trailing slash and a final index.php. Yes, I've restarted apache2,
> several times, and my other php stuff on the server works.

So, Roundcube works like a charm here.

Are you willing to get down to „I seem unable to set it up“ rather than
„webmail in Debian is shit“?  If so, we could certainly proceed to finding
out why you fail setting it up .

Cheers,
Nik


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Commande sur l'instence du shell qui appelé un script

[Benoit B]

Bonjour a tous,

Si par exemple je place "history -c" dans un script, la commande
n'aura pas d'effet sur l'instence du shell qui a appelé le
script(puisque le Shebang appelle une autre instance de shell).

Ex:
Dans un xterm j'appelle monscript
$ ./monscript

monscript contient

#!/bin/bash

history -c

Je recherche une méthod générale pour qu'une commande s'applique à
l'instance du shell qui a lancé le script...

Je ne sais pas si ma question est bien formulée...

Merci d'avance

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Benoit

Re: Webmail?

[Joe]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 22:42:38 +0200
deloptes  wrote:

> Joe wrote:
> 
> > Roundcube works (allegedly) with apache. I'm not an expert on
> > apache2, but as far as I can see, there is an apache2.conf existing
> > and enabled for roundcube, and it leads via an alias to a real
> > index.php in the right place. I just get a 404, and I've tried with
> > and without a trailing slash and a final index.php. Yes, I've
> > restarted apache2, several times, and my other php stuff on the
> > server works.  
> 
> you disqualify for your own question
> 
> webmail is just an interface and yes you need a web server. It might
> be not apache, but you must know how to configure and run web server.
> 
> last but not least the mail must come from somewhere, so you need a
> mail backend server - usually IMAP to serve your mails and you need
> an SMTP server to send/receive mails.
> 
> when you qualify for the 3 you may proceed, but anyway it is not for
> home use - I mean you can run it at home, but anyhow you need to get
> your mail from somewhere and send mail to somewhere and there are so
> many scenarios and way that it is hard to put it in few sentences.
> 
> Most of the meaningful scenarios imply having a FQDN and MX record.
> 
> What people also do is use imapsync to sync to local imap and server
> the mails.
> 
> What most people use is dovecot, exim, spam and antivirus software
> hooked to exim and any mail client. I have also seen dbmail in use.
> 
> I am trying to save you some time and point you to the fact that this
> is not something you setup in one day.
> 

Yes it is, actually. I've been running an exim4/IMAP DNS-based mail
setup for nearly twenty years, I do know a bit about it. Webmail is an
accessory, that can work in addition to proper email. In the case of
Squirrelmail, that's exactly what it did. I was expecting roundcube to
similarly just 'drop in'.

-- 
Joe

Re: Webmail?

[deloptes]

Joe wrote:

> Roundcube works (allegedly) with apache. I'm not an expert on apache2,
> but as far as I can see, there is an apache2.conf existing and enabled
> for roundcube, and it leads via an alias to a real index.php in the
> right place. I just get a 404, and I've tried with and without a
> trailing slash and a final index.php. Yes, I've restarted apache2,
> several times, and my other php stuff on the server works.

you disqualify for your own question

webmail is just an interface and yes you need a web server. It might be not
apache, but you must know how to configure and run web server.

last but not least the mail must come from somewhere, so you need a mail
backend server - usually IMAP to serve your mails and you need an SMTP
server to send/receive mails.

when you qualify for the 3 you may proceed, but anyway it is not for home
use - I mean you can run it at home, but anyhow you need to get your mail
from somewhere and send mail to somewhere and there are so many scenarios
and way that it is hard to put it in few sentences.

Most of the meaningful scenarios imply having a FQDN and MX record.

What people also do is use imapsync to sync to local imap and server the
mails.

What most people use is dovecot, exim, spam and antivirus software hooked to
exim and any mail client. I have also seen dbmail in use.

I am trying to save you some time and point you to the fact that this is not
something you setup in one day.

regards

Webmail?

[Joe]

Anyone know of a webmail that works on stretch?

I've just spent half an afternoon trying first roundcube then prayer.

Roundcube works (allegedly) with apache. I'm not an expert on apache2,
but as far as I can see, there is an apache2.conf existing and enabled
for roundcube, and it leads via an alias to a real index.php in the
right place. I just get a 404, and I've tried with and without a
trailing slash and a final index.php. Yes, I've restarted apache2,
several times, and my other php stuff on the server works.

Prayer seems incomplete. There is no process running (it's supposedly
standalone) and the configuration file seems untouched from upstream. I
expect Debian packages to deal with the plumbing, connecting it to my
mailboxes and MTA, and setting any ports necessary, maybe asking me a
few questions. The configuration file contains no mention of anything
but University of Cambridge links, and the port is 80, despite my
having a working apache2 there throughout the installation. It may be
as simple as changing that to an unused port (plus associated firewall
fiddling) but I didn't try it, as I'm sure a lot of other stuff needs
doing. 

It was a long time ago that I put Squirrelmail, no longer a Debian
package, on my old server but I'm pretty sure I installed it and it
Just Worked. 

Does anyone have either of these packages working, or indeed Yet
Another webmail? I must make clear that it's a backup measure, I've yet
to find a webmail I could stand using every day, but I've found it
useful on several occasions when other things have stopped working.

-- 
Joe

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[deloptes]

Richard Owlett wrote:

> The initial setup to create users and associated passwords specifically.
> Also anything else required for using it for the first time.

Hi,
as you stated that you have time, just read some good howto. You must know
that MariaDB is MySQL, so any MySQL introductory lesson will help. For
example I like "learn in 21 days" and you can google "learn mysql in 21
days"

regards

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Joe]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 07:59:57 -0500
Richard Owlett  wrote:

> I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find
> tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.
> 
> I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
> https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
> https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> 
> I successfully did:
> apt-get install software-properties-common
> apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client
> 
> *BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
> I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
> Help please.
>

There has been an issue with mariadb at some time, and I don't know if
it has been fixed yet. I ran into it a year or so ago. MySQL is quite
mature, and there is Debian support for the setup. The mysql-server
package contains extra Debian material. In the beginning, at least,
there was no such support for mariadb, and once installed (with an
empty root password), it was necessary to use the MySQL/mariadb command
line to set such a password.

The Debian mysql-server package contains this additional support, the
mysql-server-core package is slightly smaller, and doesn't. The support
includes the upstream mysql_secure_installation script, which can be
run after the main installation, and which sets a root password and
other simple security measures.

One workaround is to purge mariadb and install MySQL, which is still
available in sid so presumably elsewhere. Go through the startup
dialog, and once it is done, remove MySQL without purging and install
mariabd, which will inherit the databases set up by MySQL.

Another way: if you're going to make any kind of use of MySQL or
mariadb, it is impossible to avoid the command line completely. So start
learning now, such as how to login, how to reset the root password, how
to reset the root password if you don't know it but have OS root
access, the way that MySQL permissions are set, not for users alone but
for combinations of users and connecting hosts (wildcards are
available). Don't forget to flush the privileges after every change.
There are masses of tutorials for this stuff.

Note that recent versions of phpmyadmin, should you choose to use it,
no longer allows either empty passwords or root logins, so this isn't a
back way in. If you will use phpmyadmin, immediately set up another root
MySQL user by another name with every possible permission granted.

For anyone contemplating using mariadb on Android, it is installed with
an empty root password and *no* command line access. It is necessary to
find an SQL client that will log in without choosing a database (not
all do), login as root with no password, then use the SQL versions of
commands to set passwords, users etc.

-- 
Joe

Re: [OT] A vueltas con las caches L1 y L2

[Galvatorix Torixgalva]

Hola,

pues podria ser cosa del kernel.

El kernel de debian es generico, vale un poco para todo. Otra cosa es que
te configures/compiles/instales un kernel a medida.

En el caso de ubuntu creo que la cosa cambia un poco, si no recuerdo mal en
su web te van indicando para que quieres usar el sistema y en funcion de
eso te mandan a un sitio o a otro y desde ahi descargas la iso, la cual ya
esta mas preparada (kernel incluido) para todo.

Saludos

Re: [OT] Puede un ISP bloquear solo algunas conexiones a puertos externos?

[Galvatorix Torixgalva]

Hola,

ahi me parece que puede ser mas un tema de filtrado, que no de puertos.

Si no me equivoco (si estoy en un error que alguien lo aclare) un ISP puede
saber todo lo que pasa por su infraestructura. Da igual que sean datos de
navegacion, de video en streaming, musica en streaming, ftp, etc. Todo son
datos, lo que cambia es la estructura de los datos. Si pones que un
servidor use el puerto X en vez del puerto Y para intentar despistar, puede
que cuele y puede que no... porque lo que cambias es por donde lo envias
(el puerto). Si el ISP esta filtrando por estructura de datos el puerto que
uses dara igual.

En principio un ISP no tiene porque bloquear puertos de usuario salvo en
casos claramente abusivos, la inmensa mayoria de los usuarios ni de lejos
se acerca esos casos.

Ahora, a hacer de abogado del diablo: otra cosa son los usuarios que
contratan el acceso a internet para hacer la clase de cosas que a los ISP
no les hace ninguna gracia. Ejemplos: servidores de email masivos, seedbox,
etc. Ese tipo de cosas consumen (muchos) recursos del ISP, como por ejemplo
ancho de banda y los ISP suelen exigir que el cliente sea una empresa para
que si el cliente (la empresa) hace algo ilegal pues ellos (el ISP) se lava
las manos y que legalmente el marron se lo coma el cliente (la empresa).

Repito, si no me equivoco.

Saludos.

Re: ajuda para corrigir um erro na inicialização

[Helio Loureiro]

Chutaria também que foi problema de geração do initrd com algum update de
kernel.  E ele deve estar sem lvm2 como módulo.

./helio

On Thu, Jun 28, 2018, 01:45 Leandro L. Pereira 
wrote:

> Boa noite,
>
> Verifique se no seu diretório "/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/" existe o
> arquivo de nome "resume".
>
> Att;
> Leandro L. Pereira
>
> Em 26/06/2018 19:45, ka lu escreveu:
> >
> > Boa noite, Henrique.
> >
> > mesmo com senha root aparece a mensagem de que não tenho permissão para
> > acessar o conteúdo do meu arquivo "/etc/lvm/lvm.conf"
> >
> > Saberia me dizer porque isso pode ocorrer?
> >
> > Obrigada,
> >
> > Karin
> > Em terça-feira, 26 de junho de 2018 19:35:10 BRT, Henrique Fagundes
> >  escreveu:
> >
> >
> > Prezado, boa noite!
> >
> > Poderia postar o conteúdo do seu arquivo "/etc/lvm/lvm.conf" ?
> >
> > Atenciosamente,
> >
> > Henrique Fagundes
> > supo...@aprendendolinux.com 
> > Skype: magnata-br-rj
> > Linux User: 475399
> >
> > https://www.aprendendolinux.com
> > https://www.facebook.com/AprendendoLinux
> > https://youtube.com/AprendendoLinux
> > https://twitter.com/AprendendoLinux
> > https://telegram.me/AprendendoLinux
> > __
> > Participe do Grupo Aprendendo Linux
> > https://listas.aprendendolinux.com/listinfo/aprendendolinux
> >
> > Ou envie um e-mail para:
> > aprendendolinux-subscr...@listas.aprendendolinux.com
> > 
> >
> > Em 26/06/2018 19:22, ka lu escreveu:
> >  > Boa noite,
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > gostaria que me ajudassem, por favor, a resolver um problema que
> aparece
> >  > ao inicializar o computador.
> >  >
> >  > Meu computador é um lenovo Z400, que tem instalada a versão estável do
> >  > debian (Debian GNU/LINUX 9 )stretch 64-bit. O processador é intel core
> >  > i7-3632QM CPU@2.20GHz  x8 e os gráficos
> lvybridge
> > mobile. Gnome versão
> >  > 3.22.2.
> >  >
> >  > Não sei especificar a data exata que ocorreu o erro de inicialização
> >  > (entre abril e maio), ao ligar o computador, antes de entrar o pedido
> de
> >  > senha de criptografia aparece a seguinte mensagem:
> >  >
> >  > “warning: failed to connect to lvmetad. Failling back to device
> >  > scanning. Volume group “(nome do meu computador) -vg” not found.
> Cannot
> >  > process volume group (nome do meu computador) – vg
> >  >
> >  > Depois de umas semanas além da mensagem acima, começou a aparecer,
> após
> >  > o pedido de senha de criptografia a seguinte mensagem:
> >  >
> >  > Warning: failed to connect to lvmetad. Failling back to device
> scanning.
> >  >
> >  > Reading all physical volumes. This may take a while…
> >  >
> >  > Found volume group “(nome do computador)-vg” using metadata type lvm2
> >  >
> >  > Warning: failed to connect to lvmetad. Failling back to device
> scanning.
> >  >
> >  > 3 logical volume(s) in volume group “(nome do computador)-vg now
> active
> >  >
> >  > cryptsetup (sda3_crypt): set up sucessfully
> >  >
> >  > /dev/mapper/(nome do computador)--vg-root: clean, 159939/1831424
> files,
> >  > 1352203/7323648 bio
> >  >
> >  > [ 66.687110] kvm; disabled by bios
> >  >
> >  > [ 78.291265] r8169 :01:00.0: firmware: failled to load
> >  > rt1_nic/rt18105e-1.fw (-2)
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > antes desse problema aparecia uma série de linhas com colchetes no
> >  > inicio, como estas duas acima, no entanto elas tinham um [ ok] antes,
> >  > depois desses erros aparecem somente essas duas linhas acima sem a
> >  > mensagem de [ok] entre colchetes antes da numeração. A tipografia
> também
> >  > muda quando aparece essa segunda mensagem.
> >  >
> >  > E as vezes quando desligo o computador aparecem linhas como a acima,
> >  > dispersas na tela, isto é, como se estivem começando em colunas
> >  > diferentes, com [ok] em verde antes da numeração.
> >  >
> >  > Eu assisti alguns vídeos no canal do debian Brasil no you tube, entrei
> >  > no site. No entanto eu não sei identificar qual o problema e tampouco
> >  > como solucioná-lo.
> >  >
> >  > Eu tenho atualizado com frequência o sistema e estou procurando me
> >  > familiarizar com o terminal. Porém meu conhecimento é ainda muito
> > limitado.
> >  >
> >  > Vocês poderiam me ajudar, por favor.
> >  >
> >  > Desde já agradeço,
> >  >
> >  > Karin
> >  >
> >
>
>

Re: Hibernation et redémarrage depuis un autre dique

[Christophe De Natale]

Le 29/06/2018 à 15:37, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit :

Bonjour,

[...]

Ô experts en ordinosaures, auriez-vous une piste pour régler ça proprement ?
et déjà pour diagnostiquer ce qui se passe ?


Il sera ordinosaure dans 10 ans :D
Vérification de l'état de santé du disque dur n°1 ? (données smart)


PS :
Une idée sans doute saugrenue me vient : faudrait-il chercher du côté de la 
position des éventuels cavaliers/jumpers (master/slave) ?
je viens de vérifier, sur le connecteur, il reste un groupe de 4 broches 
alignées qui n'est pas utilisé.


Elles sont utilisées par le constructeur pour accès au micrologiciel.

--
Christophe

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[David Wright]

On Fri 29 Jun 2018 at 10:51:26 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:05:47AM +0200, Aldo Maggi wrote:
> > Ok, I understand your point, but, I wonder, are you using just lynx or
> > links2 for going on Internet?  The problems you correctly point out are
> > not the same with Chromium, Firefox etc.?
> 
> I wouldn't be so sure about lynx et al. Here [1] is a rough but readable
> explanation on how eFail works. There are two components into it: (1)
> a format like HTML, in which the client possibly follows links without
> user interaction (more on that below) and (2) how to bury a MIME
> boundary within HTML's baroque syntax so that for the HTML parser,
> the whole (now decrypted) message forms part of that link, which will
> be "given" readily to a server out there, waiting to harvest it.
> 
> More on (1): the example uses an img tag. You might argue that HTML
> capable mail readers have learnt these days to not follow automatically
> img tags (on privacy grounds), but there is a multitude of other links
> which might be followed automatically: CSS, iframes...
> 
> Are you sure your l{ynx,inks} doesn't download any of them? Do you know
> by heart all of those? Do you even know where to look them up? [2]
> 
> I for one wouldn't know better than to look into lynx/links source
> code. Good luck with that.

When an email is HTML-only, I use lynx to read it. It doesn't download
anything because I set commandline options to prevent it (both
automatically and if I select a link). Here's the line from my
~/.mutt/mailcap-mutt file:

# the next line is used only when an html attachment is selected in the 
attachments menu
text/html; /usr/bin/lynx -force-html -localhost -stdin

which is configured in my ~/.mutt/muttrc file:

set mailcap_path=$HOME/.mutt/mailcap-mutt

I think elinks has a similar option ( -localhost 1 ), but I don't know
about the links program. I like lynx because it doesn't just dump the
output but scrolls it like the interactive mode, highlighting the
(gagged) links.

> [1] https://thehackernews.com/2018/05/efail-pgp-email-encryption.html
> [2] This isn't to make you look bad: I don't myself either! This is
>to drive home the message that "HTML" is a huge, ill-defined mess
>of standards, and that all HTML renderers out there have to be
>a steaming pile of pragmatism which is practically impossible to
>validate.

Cheers,
David.

Re: After some effort, can't change grub screen resolution

[Lance Simmons]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 4:34 AM Darac Marjal 
wrote:

>
> Is it BIOS (in which case you have grub-pc
> installed) or (U)EFI (in which case you have grub-efi-ia32 or
> grub-efi-amd64 installed)?
>

I have UEFI (which I just learned), but grub-pc is installed. I assume
that's because the UEFI has legacy mode turned on.

Can I move from grub-pc to grub-efi-amd64? There are a few random webpages
that suggest it's difficult; I haven't found an authoritative source that
says how to do it.

I didn't notice anything in the gnu.org help-grub archive that seemed
relevant, but I may have missed something.

-- 
Lance Simmons

Re: hplip 3.17.9

[Danilo Uccelli]

Le ven. 29 juin 2018 à 16:08, hamster  a écrit :

>
> J'ai vu aussi qu'on peut téléchager un fichier .run sur le site d'hplip,
> avec des instructions d'installation :
> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/gethplip
>
> https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/install/install/index
>
> Par contre je ne sais pas dans quelle mesure c'est une bonne idée, vous
> en pensez quoi ?
>
> Perso, je l'ai récemment utilisé sur une Mint 18.3 sans problèmes.
Mais un essai dans une VM est une bonne idée...

Danilo

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 29 June 2018 10:21:18 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:13:08AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>
> [farm]
>
> > I don't consider this postage stamp of yellow clay a farm. But its
> > been paid off for 20+ years now.
>
> Hey, at least a tiny yellow farm :-)

Actually, its summer in this hemisphere so its green, covered with weeds 
that seriously need mowing. :(

And which I've been slowly covering with roof's, a shed for this, a shed 
for that, and 10 years ago a very well insulated garage on the end of 
the house, which immediately got loaded up with wood and metalworking 
machinery, quite a bit of which is run by linuxcnc, after I converted 
them so motors could move them by the micron.  Retired for 15+ years 
now, this stuff keeps me out of the bars. ;-)  That and caring for a now 
invalid wife. Any "housekeeping" done is done by me. But I still manage 
to work in some time to harass (my interests are best described as 
eclectic) about 40 mailing lists. :)

Thanks Tomas.

> Cheers
> -- t



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: [OT] Puede un ISP bloquear solo algunas conexiones a puertos externos?

[kazabe]

2018-06-28 15:24 GMT-05:00 Paynalton :
> algunos ISP, sobre todo aquellos que se relacionan con Alestra y AT,
> bloquean el puerto 25 para evitar que sus clientes se vuelvan spammers.
>
> Puedes pelear un rato con ellos y después habilitar el puerto 26.
>

Justo para prevenir eso tengo habilitado el 587 y el 465 para smtps.
El problema que me esta afectando es que de todos modos la
conversacion entre servidores de correo se da por el puerto 25, por lo
cual si no logro llegar al 25 del servidor destino desde mi servidor,
me quedo con ellos en cola.

Saludos.

Re: Crear usb des d'una ISO

[Narcis Garcia]

Primer de tot verifica el fitxer .ISO
Quin nom té exactament?
Per exemple: lubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-i386.iso



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El 29/06/18 a les 13:16, Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda ha escrit:
> Bones,
> 
> El 29/06/18 a les 02:39, Orestes Mas ha escrit:
> 
> [...]
> 
>>
>> Ho preguntava perquè la qüestió inicial del Leo, si no vaig malinterpretar 
>> allò que em va comentar en persona, feia referència a una ISO d'un 
>> sistema... windows (tal vegada li fa vergonya confessar-ho :-D)
> 
> el tema és que a la feina m'han passat una iso amb una Ubuntu (no
> windows ...) que en teoria arrencava per instal·lar-se. Però, després
> d'haver provat el dd, usb-creator, genisoimage, xorriso, etc no he
> aconseguit que arrenqui la maleïda iso. Probablement hi ha algun error o
> a la iso original o se'n passa alguna cosa.
> 
> Gràcies per les respostes.
> 
> Leo
> 
> 
> 

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 29 June 2018 09:22:56 Darac Marjal wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> >I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> >About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find
> >tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.
> >
> >I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
> >   https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
> >  
> > https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> >
> >I successfully did:
> >   apt-get install software-properties-common
>
> This is not strictly necessary. software-properties-common provides
> the program "apt-add-repository" which, in turn, is only required if
> you're installing packages from a different repository (particularly
> Ubuntu PPAs). However, 'mariadb-server' is in all current versions of
> Debian (jessie to sid), so you're best to stick with the Debian
> version.
>
> >   apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client
> >
> >*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
>
> This is part of the magic of dpkg called "debconf". "debconf" is a
> system whereby packages can ask a user questions at installation (and
> removal) time and configure themselves accordingly. debconf comes with
> a series of frontends depending on the user's preferred method of
> interaction. What you see in those tutorials (the grey boxes with the
> blue background) is the frontend called "dialog". There are more basic
> fronends (Noninteractive - answers must be provided in a pre-existing
> text file, Readline - questions are asked by a simple plain-text
> prompt and Editor - use your favourite text editor to provide answers)
> as well as more glitzy ones (Gnome and KDE).
>
> Debconf uses a fallback method, too. If you select, say, Gnome as your
> frontend, but are updating outside of an X environment, then debconf
> can fallback to 'dialog' and, if you're installing on a dumb terminal
> (say, your computer is so badly off that you're installing over a
> serial line) it can fallback to readline.
>
> Now, if you're not getting these prompts, then the best place to start
> is by choosing (again) the configuration of debconf. Run:
>
>   # dpkg-reconfigure debconf
>
> and, hopefully, you should first be asked what your preferred frontend
> is. Next, you will be asked to set the LOWEST priority of question you
> want to see. Critical prompts are for questions that might break your
> system (e.g. I would imagine that systemd's take over of init was
> couched as a critical question). High importance are for questions
> that the package needs to know the answer to (but if you don't provide
> that answer, the service probably won't run) and Low importance
> questions are the sort that 99% of people will just skip over.
>
> Finally, once you've reconfigured debconf, try running:
>
>  # dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server
>
> and you should get prompted for the default password.
>
> >I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> >I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
> >Help please.

This is a far better manpage than the manpage for debconf, which could 
serve as a model for a sparse manpage. I've read that one several times. 
Its good english, but essentially devoid of helpfull info. Shows 
options, but does not adequately describe what they actually do.

Thank you Darac.


-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[tomas]

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[farm]

> I don't consider this postage stamp of yellow clay a farm. But its been 
> paid off for 20+ years now.

Hey, at least a tiny yellow farm :-)

Cheers
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Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 29 June 2018 09:04:16 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 08:24:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I use a web browser to browse the web, but I use mutt to read and
> > send email.
>
> ...which of course is perfectly capable of calling out into a viewer
> for HTML (lynx or somesuch). But yeah...
>
> > The two things are completely separate for me.  And, I suspect, for
> > many other Debian users.
>
> Same for me, but see below.
>
> > If someone sends email which contains only HTML and not a textual
> > part, mutt shows me the raw HTML.  And then I delete the email,
> > because if they can't be bothered to send their words in an ordinary
> > plain text message [...]
>
> Sometimes you gotta compromise. I spent a short period of my life in
> a corporate environment. I may have lost what's left of my sparse
> sanity had I been forced to use Outlook.

Certainly a step in that direction.

> So I actually managed to get 
> fetchmail to talk to their Exchange server (IMAP). Needless to say,
> most company mails were HTML (few people even knew that, and I was
> in the computer tech department!).
>
> My HTML viewer was html2text. Most probably immune to the
> vulnerability we're talking about, although I wouldn't bet my farm [1]
> on it :-)

Bet only what you can afford to lose.  And generally, that amount donated 
to a charity will do more good.
>
> Cheers
> [1] that one I don't have :-)
> -- tomás

I don't consider this postage stamp of yellow clay a farm. But its been 
paid off for 20+ years now.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Aldo Maggi]

Thank you, Hans!

But I think that package is obsolete, in fact it appears in Precise
Pangolin 12.04, furthermore the package refers to claws-mail 3.8.0, my
version is 3.16.0

What I find very strange (I should be used to strange things since I'm
Italian :-D ) is that I do not see the reason to having a graphical
mailer if it doesn't show html messages, much better a textual one,
open in a xterm (let's hope there are not terrible securities issues
:-D )e.g. mutt (faster, just to mention an advantage, and folders in the
left side do not disappear from time to time with the need to find out
how to see them again!

BTW purists didn't install Xfree86, because of security issues, I do
not think problems have been solved with Xorg :-D

Thank you again,

Aldo :-)


Il giorno Fri, 29 Jun 2018 15:30:21 +0200
Hans  ha scritto:

> Hi, 
> 
> there is  a "claws-mail-html2-viewer" package in Ubuntu, it might
> also work in debian.
> 
> On the other hand, they are telling, that "gtkhtml2-viewer.so" as a
> plugin shall produce better results.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Hans
> 
> 

Re: hplip 3.17.9

[hamster]

Le 29/06/2018 à 06:57, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> voici une alternative :
> wget -c 
> http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hplip/hplip_3.17.10+repack0-5_amd64.deb
> sudo gdebi hplip_3.17.10+repack0-5_amd64.deb

Waou, j'aurais pas pensé a ca. Merci bien.

> attention aux dépendances

Faut que je teste le truc dans une VM avant de le faire a distance.

J'ai vu aussi qu'on peut téléchager un fichier .run sur le site d'hplip,
avec des instructions d'installation :
https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/gethplip
https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/install/install/index

Par contre je ne sais pas dans quelle mesure c'est une bonne idée, vous
en pensez quoi ?

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Gene Heskett]

On Friday 29 June 2018 08:24:36 Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:05:47AM +0200, Aldo Maggi wrote:
> > Ok, I understand your point, but, I wonder, are you using just lynx
> > or links2 for going on Internet?  The problems you correctly point
> > out are not the same with Chromium, Firefox etc.?
>
> I use a web browser to browse the web, but I use mutt to read and
> send email.
>
> The two things are completely separate for me.  And, I suspect, for
> many other Debian users.
>
> If someone sends email which contains only HTML and not a textual
> part, mutt shows me the raw HTML.  And then I delete the email,
> because if they can't be bothered to send their words in an ordinary
> plain text message, then I can't be bothered to go out of my way to
> convert it for them.  Plus, it'll either be spam, or a stupid question
> that I have no interest in reading in the first place, because what
> kind of intelligent question could you possibly get from someone who
> sends pure-HTML email?  None.

Rant on

+10,000 folks. Send me pure html mail and it goes straight back 
to "sa-learn spam". And that training has probably sent 20 such messages 
a day to the spam folder already, where its chances of being read are 
very poor, and a reply is once in a blue moon event.

Email was intended to be plain text. And since email is sent to a common 
server, which in turn relays it to every subscriber to the list 
regardless of where on the planet the recipient is, he is going to see 
it, and all your legal dept gets for appending a big if not the intended 
recipient, delete this unread, of course its only seen after reading 
that far down in the message that this is seen. The only thing the legal 
folks are getting out of such a message, is a paycheck that is a drain 
on your resources, there has not been a court rendering anyplace on the 
planet that I'm aware of ordering the reader of such a message to pay 
damages.

/rant off
-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/29/2018 08:22 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]



Now, if you're not getting these prompts, then the best place to start 
is by choosing (again) the configuration of debconf. Run:


  # dpkg-reconfigure debconf


I did, choosing dialog and low priority.[snip]

Finally, once you've reconfigured debconf, try running:

# dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server


On the terminal I ran that with root privileges.
NOTHING happened.
I.E. I was immediately given the root prompt



and you should get prompted for the default password.


That was what I desired but did not get.




I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.

Re: Hibernation et redémarrage depuis un autre dique

[roger . tarani]

Oui, c'est ça : avec un Bios
(c'est un vénérable portable ordinateur Core 2 Duo 8 Mo 2,67 GHz RAM 1333 MHz 
qui peine un peu avec Win7, et qui respire très bien avec Debian ; c'est ce qui 
m'a incité à le conserver encore longtemps).

j'ai refait des essais. Idem :
* En sortie de veille prolongée/hibernation ou bien au démarrage, le bios 
semble chercher pendant (autour d'une minute, voire plus) et les menus du Bios 
sont inaccessibles.
* Après un simple Ctrl Alt Suppr pour le rédémarrer, les 2 menus Bios et 
Startup menu sont immédiatement accessibles, et le disque (interne, amovible) 
n°2 est visible.

Ô experts en ordinosaures, auriez-vous une piste pour régler ça proprement ?
et déjà pour diagnostiquer ce qui se passe ?

Merci 

PS :
Une idée sans doute saugrenue me vient : faudrait-il chercher du côté de la 
position des éventuels cavaliers/jumpers (master/slave) ?
je viens de vérifier, sur le connecteur, il reste un groupe de 4 broches 
alignées qui n'est pas utilisé.

- Original Message -
From: "Stephane Ascoet" 
To: "roger tarani" 
Cc: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 2:54:28 PM
Subject: Re: Hibernation et redémarrage depuis un autre dique

Le 25/06/2018 à 14:06, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit :
> Peut-on corriger ce problème de disque n°2 qui n'est pas vu par Bios (sauf à 
> rebooter) ?
> Déjà, comment voir ce qui se passe ?

Si personne n'a repondu depuis quelques jours, c'est sans doute que 
personne ne sait. Je suppose que ce n'est pas un Bios mais un (U)EFI, a 
moins que tu sois un objecteur de croissance fou comme moi qui n'utilise 
que des ordinosaures(avec au maximum du SCSI). Je te conseillerai donc 
de chercher du cote de ceux qui savent parler a ces trucs codes avec les 
pieds pretendumment modernes...
-- 
Cordialement, Stephane Ascoet

RE: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Hans]

Hi, 

there is  a "claws-mail-html2-viewer" package in Ubuntu, it might also work in 
debian.

On the other hand, they are telling, that "gtkhtml2-viewer.so" as a plugin 
shall produce better results.

Hope this helps.

Best regards

Hans

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/29/2018 08:09 AM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find tutorial
which was a close enough match to my system.

I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/

I successfully did:
apt-get install software-properties-common
apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client


First, I do not recommend that you follow the instructions on those
pages for adding new repositories.  It is aboslutely unnecessary.
Debian stretch ships official packages for MaraiaDB 10.1 and unless you
have a specific need to use packges from a third-party, it is best to
steer clear of that.


I used the standard Debian repository.





*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.


What specifically is it that you are looking for on the menu?  What are
you trying to do?



The initial setup to create users and associated passwords specifically.
Also anything else required for using it for the first time.

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Aldo Maggi]

I perfectly agree with you, in fact I wonder why one should use a
graphic mail reader (claws-mail) which cannot show html mail just
like  the really very powerful mutt (which I myself used many years
ago)?
The conclusion is:  claws-mail, at the moment, is completely useless,
better disinstall it.

Thanks

Aldo

Il giorno Fri, 29 Jun 2018 08:24:36 -0400
Greg Wooledge  ha scritto:

> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:05:47AM +0200, Aldo Maggi wrote:
> > Ok, I understand your point, but, I wonder, are you using just lynx
> > or links2 for going on Internet?  The problems you correctly point
> > out are not the same with Chromium, Firefox etc.?  
> 
> I use a web browser to browse the web, but I use mutt to read and
> send email.
> 
> The two things are completely separate for me.  And, I suspect, for
> many other Debian users.
> 
> If someone sends email which contains only HTML and not a textual
> part, mutt shows me the raw HTML.  And then I delete the email,
> because if they can't be bothered to send their words in an ordinary
> plain text message, then I can't be bothered to go out of my way to
> convert it for them.  Plus, it'll either be spam, or a stupid
> question that I have no interest in reading in the first place,
> because what kind of intelligent question could you possibly get from
> someone who sends pure-HTML email?  None.
> 

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find 
tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.


I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
  https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
  https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/

I successfully did:
  apt-get install software-properties-common


This is not strictly necessary. software-properties-common provides the 
program "apt-add-repository" which, in turn, is only required if you're 
installing packages from a different repository (particularly Ubuntu 
PPAs). However, 'mariadb-server' is in all current versions of Debian 
(jessie to sid), so you're best to stick with the Debian version.



  apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.


This is part of the magic of dpkg called "debconf". "debconf" is a 
system whereby packages can ask a user questions at installation (and 
removal) time and configure themselves accordingly. debconf comes with a 
series of frontends depending on the user's preferred method of 
interaction. What you see in those tutorials (the grey boxes with the 
blue background) is the frontend called "dialog". There are more basic 
fronends (Noninteractive - answers must be provided in a pre-existing 
text file, Readline - questions are asked by a simple plain-text prompt 
and Editor - use your favourite text editor to provide answers) as well 
as more glitzy ones (Gnome and KDE).


Debconf uses a fallback method, too. If you select, say, Gnome as your 
frontend, but are updating outside of an X environment, then debconf can 
fallback to 'dialog' and, if you're installing on a dumb terminal (say, 
your computer is so badly off that you're installing over a serial line) 
it can fallback to readline.


Now, if you're not getting these prompts, then the best place to start 
is by choosing (again) the configuration of debconf. Run:


 # dpkg-reconfigure debconf

and, hopefully, you should first be asked what your preferred frontend 
is. Next, you will be asked to set the LOWEST priority of question you 
want to see. Critical prompts are for questions that might break your 
system (e.g. I would imagine that systemd's take over of init was 
couched as a critical question). High importance are for questions that 
the package needs to know the answer to (but if you don't provide that 
answer, the service probably won't run) and Low importance questions are 
the sort that 99% of people will just skip over.


Finally, once you've reconfigured debconf, try running:

# dpkg-reconfigure mariadb-server

and you should get prompted for the default password.


I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.







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Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[tomas]

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find
> tutorial which was a close enough match to my system.
> 
> I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
>https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
>https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> 
> I successfully did:
>apt-get install software-properties-common
>apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

Then it should be installed...

> *BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.

I don't understand this.

> I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.

Nor I understand this. What do you expect?

Note that mariadb-client just installs a command-line database client,
that is, you invoke it in a terminal (most probably it's called "mysql")
and enter SQL commands into it.

For a graphical client, I think the usual suspect will be phpmyadmin,
which is a Web interface written in PHP.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific, but perhaps this helps us find
the right direction.

Cheers
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Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 03:04:16PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Sometimes you gotta compromise. I spent a short period of my life in
> a corporate environment. I may have lost what's left of my sparse
> sanity had I been forced to use Outlook.

Yes, work is a different story.  They're paying me to do this job, and
part of this job entails communicating with people who use Microsoft
stuff exclusively (it's the desktop standard here).

For the times when it's actually important for my job to be able to read
what someone is saying in the format that they're using ("my corrections
are shown in red below"), I will open the mail in Outlook Web App (OWA).
Which I use in google-chrome-stable.

But for non-work emails?  Forget it.

Re: Problems installing MariaDB

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 07:59:57AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
> About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find tutorial
> which was a close enough match to my system.
> 
> I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
>https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
>https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/
> 
> I successfully did:
>apt-get install software-properties-common
>apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

First, I do not recommend that you follow the instructions on those
pages for adding new repositories.  It is aboslutely unnecessary.
Debian stretch ships official packages for MaraiaDB 10.1 and unless you
have a specific need to use packges from a third-party, it is best to
steer clear of that.

> 
> *BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
> I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
> I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
> Help please.
> 
What specifically is it that you are looking for on the menu?  What are
you trying to do?

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Ben Oliver]

On 18-06-29 08:24:36, Greg Wooledge wrote:

If someone sends email which contains only HTML and not a textual part,
mutt shows me the raw HTML.  And then I delete the email, because if
they can't be bothered to send their words in an ordinary plain text
message, then I can't be bothered to go out of my way to convert it for
them.  Plus, it'll either be spam, or a stupid question that I have
no interest in reading in the first place, because what kind of
intelligent question could you possibly get from someone who sends
pure-HTML email?  None.


Hard line but I like it, and do the same. Most decent services do good 
multipart anyway.


I do have a macro to pipe an email to firefox if I absolutely *must* 
read it in html.


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[tomas]

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 08:24:36AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

[...]

> I use a web browser to browse the web, but I use mutt to read and
> send email.

...which of course is perfectly capable of calling out into a viewer
for HTML (lynx or somesuch). But yeah...

> The two things are completely separate for me.  And, I suspect, for
> many other Debian users.

Same for me, but see below.

> If someone sends email which contains only HTML and not a textual part,
> mutt shows me the raw HTML.  And then I delete the email, because if
> they can't be bothered to send their words in an ordinary plain text
> message [...]

Sometimes you gotta compromise. I spent a short period of my life in
a corporate environment. I may have lost what's left of my sparse
sanity had I been forced to use Outlook. So I actually managed to get
fetchmail to talk to their Exchange server (IMAP). Needless to say,
most company mails were HTML (few people even knew that, and I was
in the computer tech department!).

My HTML viewer was html2text. Most probably immune to the vulnerability
we're talking about, although I wouldn't bet my farm [1] on it :-)

Cheers
[1] that one I don't have :-)
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Problems installing MariaDB

[Richard Owlett]

I have not used a relational database since dBASEII was current.
About a year ago I attempted to install MariaDB but didn't find tutorial 
which was a close enough match to my system.


I found (and attempted to follow) instructions at:
   https://www.tecmint.com/install-mariadb-in-debian/
   https://www.linode.com/docs/databases/mariadb/mariadb-setup-debian/

I successfully did:
   apt-get install software-properties-common
   apt-get install mariadb-server mariadb-client

*BUT* both references auto-magically go to a GUI setup screen.
I'm using Debian 9 with MATE.
I don't find anything related on the Applications nor System menus.
Help please.

Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:05:47AM +0200, Aldo Maggi wrote:
> Ok, I understand your point, but, I wonder, are you using just lynx or
> links2 for going on Internet?  The problems you correctly point out are
> not the same with Chromium, Firefox etc.?

I use a web browser to browse the web, but I use mutt to read and
send email.

The two things are completely separate for me.  And, I suspect, for
many other Debian users.

If someone sends email which contains only HTML and not a textual part,
mutt shows me the raw HTML.  And then I delete the email, because if
they can't be bothered to send their words in an ordinary plain text
message, then I can't be bothered to go out of my way to convert it for
them.  Plus, it'll either be spam, or a stupid question that I have
no interest in reading in the first place, because what kind of
intelligent question could you possibly get from someone who sends
pure-HTML email?  None.

[OT] A vueltas con las caches L1 y L2

[Angel Vicente]

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Hola.

Tengo un ordenador con Debian con un procesador Core 2 Quad Q8400, y me
ha dado por comprobar las caches, y me encuentro que haciendo:

dmidecode -t cache

me dice que las caches L1 y L2 están deshabilitadas, la cosa es que con
lshw encuentro que existir, existen.

Tengo otros dos ordenadores, estos con Ubuntu en los que dmidecode me
informa que las caches están habilitadas.

He estado buscando info acerca de las caches, pero no encuentro como
habilitarlas.

¿Cabe la posibilidad de que el kernel suministrado por Debian no las
habilite y el de Ubuntu sí?, eso en el caso de que se pueda hacer desde
el kernel

Pues eso, que cuando el diablo no tiene nada que hacer...

Saludos y gracias de antemano

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Re: Crear usb des d'una ISO

[Leopold Palomo-Avellaneda]

Bones,

El 29/06/18 a les 02:39, Orestes Mas ha escrit:

[...]

> 
> Ho preguntava perquè la qüestió inicial del Leo, si no vaig malinterpretar 
> allò que em va comentar en persona, feia referència a una ISO d'un sistema... 
> windows (tal vegada li fa vergonya confessar-ho :-D)

el tema és que a la feina m'han passat una iso amb una Ubuntu (no
windows ...) que en teoria arrencava per instal·lar-se. Però, després
d'haver provat el dd, usb-creator, genisoimage, xorriso, etc no he
aconseguit que arrenqui la maleïda iso. Probablement hi ha algun error o
a la iso original o se'n passa alguna cosa.

Gràcies per les respostes.

Leo



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Re: After some effort, can't change grub screen resolution

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 12:49:53AM -0500, Lance Simmons wrote:

  I want to change grub screen resolution.
  Four facts:
  (1) "vbeinfo" and "videoinfo" return no result in grub.  The screen blanks 
and eventually I restart the computer.


This /probably/ means that grub doesn't know how to control your video 
device. 


  (2) "hwinfo --framebuffer" returns no result.  I would append the logfile, 
but it's 7500 lines long.
  (3) running

lspci  -v -s  $(lspci | grep ' VGA ' | cut -d" " -f 1)

  returns:
  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium 
Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics
  Controller (rev 35) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
  Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor 
x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Integrated Graphics Controller
  Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 121
  Memory at 9000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
  Memory at 8000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
  I/O ports at f000 [size=64]
  [virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c [disabled] [size=128K]
  Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
  Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
  Capabilities: [b0] Vendor Specific Information: Len=07 
  Kernel driver in use: i915
  Kernel modules: i915
  (4) So far, changing GRUB_GFXMODE (in /etc/default/grub) to several of the 
resolutions I know my monitor supports (and then
  running "sudo update-grub") has no effect.


Just as a wild stab-in-the-dark, have you tried GRUB_GFXMODE=auto ? This 
is the default when using gfxterm, though, so you've probably already 
got the best grub can do.


One thing that you don't mention, which could be potentially useful is 
how your computer boots. Is it BIOS (in which case you have grub-pc 
installed) or (U)EFI (in which case you have grub-efi-ia32 or 
grub-efi-amd64 installed)? UEFI brings easier access to higher 
resolutions, so if you have the option to switch to that, it may be 
beneficial.



  Any suggestions?
  I've been running sid for a year, but this has been a problem since I got the 
computer a couple of years ago and was running
  stable so I figure it's not sid-specific.
  --
  Lance Simmons


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Re: After some effort, can't change grub screen resolution

[Felix Miata]

Lance Simmons composed on 2018-06-29 00:49 (UTC-0500):

> (1) "vbeinfo" and "videoinfo" return no result in grub.  The screen blanks
> and eventually I restart the computer.

Neither work at my current Grub2-efi prompt on Kaby Lake. From videoinfo, I do
get a two line output:

List of supported video modes:
Legend: mask/position=red/gree/blue/reserved
...
> (3) running

> lspci  -v -s  $(lspci | grep ' VGA ' | cut -d" " -f 1)

Give inxi -G -c0 a try.

> Any suggestions?

If you've only ever used UEFI boot mode on that Asrock, try booting a USB stick
or HD with Grub2 installed in CSM (non-UEFI/GPT) mode to see if either command
returns anything. Neither vbeinfo nor videoinfo has _ever_ worked for me. I
suspect those commands are not compatible with one of either various UEFI BIOS,
or all UEFI BIOS.

Ask on the help-grub or Grub-devel mailing lists if you can't get a Google
answer that lines up with my suspicion. and nothing useful turns up here. I only
use Grub2 on UEFI systems with GPT, always Grub Legacy with MBR disks.
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Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[tomas]

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On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 10:05:47AM +0200, Aldo Maggi wrote:
> Ok, I understand your point, but, I wonder, are you using just lynx or
> links2 for going on Internet?  The problems you correctly point out are
> not the same with Chromium, Firefox etc.?

I wouldn't be so sure about lynx et al. Here [1] is a rough but readable
explanation on how eFail works. There are two components into it: (1)
a format like HTML, in which the client possibly follows links without
user interaction (more on that below) and (2) how to bury a MIME
boundary within HTML's baroque syntax so that for the HTML parser,
the whole (now decrypted) message forms part of that link, which will
be "given" readily to a server out there, waiting to harvest it.

More on (1): the example uses an img tag. You might argue that HTML
capable mail readers have learnt these days to not follow automatically
img tags (on privacy grounds), but there is a multitude of other links
which might be followed automatically: CSS, iframes...

Are you sure your l{ynx,inks} doesn't download any of them? Do you know
by heart all of those? Do you even know where to look them up? [2]

I for one wouldn't know better than to look into lynx/links source
code. Good luck with that.

Cheers

[1] https://thehackernews.com/2018/05/efail-pgp-email-encryption.html
[2] This isn't to make you look bad: I don't myself either! This is
   to drive home the message that "HTML" is a huge, ill-defined mess
   of standards, and that all HTML renderers out there have to be
   a steaming pile of pragmatism which is practically impossible to
   validate.

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Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Aldo Maggi]

Ok, I understand your point, but, I wonder, are you using just lynx or
links2 for going on Internet?  The problems you correctly point out are
not the same with Chromium, Firefox etc.?

Thanks

Aldo


Il giorno Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:18:44 +0100
Ben Oliver  ha scritto:

> On 18-06-28 08:37:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:  
> >
> >For one recent example on how HTML mail can subvert (S-MIME)
> >encryption, see efail [1] (and no, don't follow EFF's recommendation
> >quoted there to disable PGP -- better disable HTML).
> 
> Agreed - pretty bad advice from the EFF. If you have PGP turned on
> it's for a reason, why would you want to forego that just for some
> dumb HTML email?  

Re: After some effort, can't change grub screen resolution

[Michael Lange]

Hi,

On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 00:49:53 -0500
Lance Simmons  wrote:

(...)
> 
> (4) So far, changing GRUB_GFXMODE (in /etc/default/grub) to several of
> the resolutions I know my monitor supports (and then running "sudo
> update-grub") has no effect.
> 
> Any suggestions?

I had a similar problem some time ago; I am no expert, so I had to try a
few things, and finally came up with these lines in /etc/default/grub:

GRUB_GFXMODE=1024x768
GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD=1024x768

This works, at least here :)

Regards

Michael


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Re: Claws-mail - which plugin for html mails?

[Aldo Maggi]

Ok, I understand your point, but, I wonder, are you using just lynx or
links2 for going on Internet?  The problems you correctly point out are
not the same with Chromium, Firefox etc.?

Thanks

Aldo


Il giorno Thu, 28 Jun 2018 08:18:44 +0100
Ben Oliver  ha scritto:

> On 18-06-28 08:37:59, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> >
> >For one recent example on how HTML mail can subvert (S-MIME)
> >encryption, see efail [1] (and no, don't follow EFF's recommendation
> >quoted there to disable PGP -- better disable HTML).  
> 
> Agreed - pretty bad advice from the EFF. If you have PGP turned on
> it's for a reason, why would you want to forego that just for some
> dumb HTML email?

Re: hplip 3.17.9

[fab]

voici une alternative :

wget -c 
http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hplip/hplip_3.17.10+repack0-5_amd64.deb
sudo gdebi hplip_3.17.10+repack0-5_amd64.deb
ah oui, je pense que c'est une meilleure solution et plus rapide en tout 
cas.


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