Re: XOpenIM errors

2018-07-03 Thread john doe

On 7/3/2018 8:47 PM, Brian Cary wrote:

Greetings,
I'm running a new Debian 9.4 system - I was a longtime Ubuntu user.
I'm trying to figure out why I get these errors when I run a
game dev program called "Godot". Didn't have the problem
in Ubuntu, so I assume it's something different with Debian?
Google and the Godot community have no idea, so
I'm throwing up a "Hail Mary" here. I totally understand
if no one wants to tackle this though.

Here're the error messages, they show up in the terminal
when running the program Godot from there:


0:00:00:0004 - XOpenIM failed
--
Type:Warning
Description:
Time: 0:00:00:0004
C Error: XOpenIM failed
C Source: platform/x11/os_x11.cpp:231
C Function: initialize


and


0:00:00:0085 - XCreateIC couldn't create xic
--
Type:Warning
Description:
Time: 0:00:00:0085
C Error: XCreateIC couldn't create xic
C Source: platform/x11/os_x11.cpp:415
C Function: initialize


I have no idea what any of that even means. Thoughts?



Both of the messages are of the type "Warning" which indicates that the 
code can't do something but there not an "error" per say! :)


If beyond the warnings you don't have any issues playing the game I 
would simply ignore them.

Isn't there an option to disable warnings related to "OSX"?

--
John Doe



Re: Claws-mail "Get mail" opens full-page

2018-07-03 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:29:02 -0500
ntrfug  wrote:

> I've been using claws-mail since well before it was claws-mail (back
> in the sylpheed days).
> 
> When I checked for new mail or opened dialogs they opened in
> the reduced size I specified, and this size was preserved when I
> exited the program.
> 
> I upgraded to stretch a couple of months ago, and to buster just last
> night. Since the stretch upgrade claws-mail dialogs opened in
> maximum size.v
> 
> If I catch "Get mail" before it's finished, I can reduce the dialog to
> a business-card-sized window, and that works for the current session,
> but if I exit the program the dialogs return to full size whenever I
> re-start.
> 
> How can I specify and save a reduced size for the get-mail dialog?

Try function key F11 which toggles Fullscreen.  This option is in menus
View-> Fullscreen. When in less than fullscreen mode, set the sizes you
want.

B



Re: Outgoing email with exim, was Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread Mike McClain
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 05:42:15PM -0500, David Wright wrote:
> On Tue 03 Jul 2018 at 08:52:22 (-0700), Mike McClain wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 03:17:27PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > Should anyone reading this know hjow to get exim4 to connect to
> > outbound.att.net I'd love to hear about it.
>
> Curt got the wiki, and my googling landed on
> https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/dsl-high-speed/KM1010523
> and
> https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/email-support/KM1240308
> It looks as though these are more up to date than the wiki.
>
> In the first, I assume that the table rows are labelled wrongly,
> but it seems to show SMTP on smtp.mail.att.net ports 465 or 587
> as well as the hostname you gave. I would also try port 587 on
> both hostnames: it won't be the first to give the wrong one.
>
> The second shows how to get a suitable password for your userID.
> (I would use this approach merely because I don't know anything
> about oath.)
>
> Anyway, what doesn't work for you and what response do you get
> from exim?

What doesn't work? Can't send mail.
Long before Verizon and Oath were involved with Yahoo.

When I switched from dialup AT had me using port 465 and at that
time I was getting some kind of authorization error but couldn't find
out what.

# /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf
dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost'
dc_local_interfaces='127.0.0.1'
dc_smarthost='outbound.att.net::465'

Here's an excerpt from current exim's log:
2018-07-03 19:51:29 1faXd0-0008Gb-JB Remote host
smtp.att.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com [67.195.228.97] closed
connection in response to initial connection
2018-07-03 19:51:59 1faXd0-0008Gb-JB == nialccm.e...@gmail.com
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-18): Remote host
smtp.att.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com [98.136.96.82] closed connection in
response to initial connection

Switching update-exim4.conf.conf to read:
dc_smarthost='outbound.att.net::587'

exim's log now shows:
2018-07-03 20:15:24 1faYFl-6U-4d ** mikemcclain...@att.net
R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost: SMTP error from remote mail
server after MAIL FROM:<> SIZE=2464: host
smtp.att.mail.fy4.b.yahoo.com [67.195.228.97]: 550 Request failed;
Mailbox unavailable

This last message shows a further complication. I have a primary email
account with ATT as well as several aliases,. I also have a Yahoo
account, likewise gmail and am likely to use any of them as the source
(From:, ReplyTo: headers) in outgoing mail depending on where it's going.
I only have one, the primary, in /etc/exim4/passwd.client for ATT.

My dialup doesn't care what I call myself when I send email but
perhaps ATT/Yahoo does.

No I haven't tried to get that special password.

What I've got works, I guess I'll leave it rather than jump through
hoops for Verizon.

Thanks for the references.
Mike
--
Where man is there will be trouble to the end of time,
if not of one sort, then of another."
- Louis L'Amour



Re: Webmail?

2018-07-03 Thread Richard Hector
On 02/07/18 00:53, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2018-07-01 hackte Zenaan Harkness in die Tasten:
>> And with your self-issued snake oil certs,
> 
> I use "Let's Encrypt"!
> 
> 

That link doesn't seem to be a good advertisement for how to set up
https ... I get an SSL error. :-)

It wouldn't help much anyway, in this context; perhaps you meant to link
to https://letsencrypt.org/ ?

Richard



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Claws-mail "Get mail" opens full-page

2018-07-03 Thread ntrfug
I've been using claws-mail since well before it was claws-mail (back in
the sylpheed days).

When I checked for new mail or opened dialogs they opened in
the reduced size I specified, and this size was preserved when I exited
the program.

I upgraded to stretch a couple of months ago, and to buster just last
night. Since the stretch upgrade claws-mail dialogs opened in
maximum size.v

If I catch "Get mail" before it's finished, I can reduce the dialog to
a business-card-sized window, and that works for the current session,
but if I exit the program the dialogs return to full size whenever I
re-start.

How can I specify and save a reduced size for the get-mail dialog?



Claws-mail all windows open in full-page

2018-07-03 Thread ntrfug
I've been using claws-mail since well before it was claws-mail (back in
the sylpheed days).

When I checked for new mail or opened dialogs they opened in
reduced size.

I upgraded to stretch a couple of months ago, and to buster just last
night. Since the stretch upgrade all claws-mail dialogs opened in
maximum size.

If I catch "Get mail" before it's finished, I can reduce the dialog to
a business-card-sized window, and that works for the current session,
but if I exit the program the dialogs return to full size whenever I
re-start.



Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-03 Thread Richard Hector
On 02/07/18 05:31, David Wright wrote:
> On Sun 01 Jul 2018 at 22:44:17 (+1200), Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 28/06/18 16:40, David Wright wrote:
>>> On Wed 27 Jun 2018 at 19:49:13 (+0200), Martin Krämer wrote:
 I am wondering if it is possible to get the debian release number
 for debian testing (and maybe sid) from command line?
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> # cat > /etc/debian_version
>>> Write whatever you want here
>>> ^D
>>>
>>> Job done. (That's a control-D.)
>>>
>>> Whether it's advisable to depend on its being numerical is a different 
>>> matter.
>>
>> Wait, what? Are you trying to get it, or set it? Why would you want to
>> edit that?
> 
> As Brad has already pointed out, "[…] [testing] will get the official
> release number 10 when buster becomes the stable branch of Debian."
> That's been policy AIUI at least since Debian 1.0 was not released.
> Meanwhile this question is asked, answered, and (re)submitted as a bug.
> 
> What seems to be lost on people who feel a pressing need for
> /etc/debian_version to contain a number to satisfy some script that
> they have written (which seems to be the usual reason) is that
> /etc/debian_version is a configuration file. Look in the
> .deb file and there it is, along with /etc/issue{,.net} which
> determine how you are greeted {locally,remotely}. So admins are
> free to set them all how they like.

I accept that you _can_ edit it. I just don't see why you'd want to,
especially in terms of the OP's request to find out what the version
number is. If the file has the version number, fine. If not, changing
the file still isn't going to help.

Richard




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Re: Debian testing - release number

2018-07-03 Thread John Crawley

On 2018-07-02 02:31, David Wright wrote:

What seems to be lost on people who feel a pressing need for
/etc/debian_version to contain a number to satisfy some script that
they have written (which seems to be the usual reason) is that
/etc/debian_version is a configuration file. 



I don't know of and wouldn't expect the value to be
of any use to the system configuration tools, only to humans.


Sorry, but I thought a "configuration file" was supposed to influence 
the behaviour of _software_ in some way. Are files which only provide 
info for humans also considered configuration files? If a sysadmin 
edited the contents of /etc/debian_version what other human would be 
expected to benefit?


--
John



Re: next LTS version?

2018-07-03 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG (황병희, 黃炳熙)
In Article <201807031752.13571.ghesk...@shentel.net>,
 Gene Heskett  writes:

> Greetings all;
>
> Since wheezy is pretty much EOL even for security stuffs, whats the next 
> version that will be LTS?
>
> As a linuxcnc fan, I'd like to know what I have to build a rt, or 
> rtai-kernel on.
>

Well i don't know what LTS is, however day by day i am waiting for
 Bullseye, very much!!! 

Sincerely, Byung-Hee.

-- 
^고맙습니다 _救濟蒼生_ 감사합니다_^))//



Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Tue 03 Jul 2018 at 19:59:18 (+0200), Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Le 03/07/2018 à 02:42, David Wright a écrit :
> >On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 21:58:15 (+0200), john doe wrote:
> >
> >>It could be that the ISP router went into "bridge mode" (router
> >>function was disabled).
> >
> >Which is rather worrying as you are exposed to the Internet
> >without any security.
> 
> Why "without any security" ?
> Bridge mode does not cancel the intrinsic security of the host.

We're not talking about the host(s), but the LAN side of the
modem-router, as you do here:

> Besides, the security provided by the router mode is questionable. I
> would not rely on any ISP-provided device for my LAN security.

… which was the opinion expressed in my next paragraph:

"My advice would be to ditch it and get separate units. […] have full
control over the router."

Cheers,
David.



Outgoing email with exim, was Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Tue 03 Jul 2018 at 08:52:22 (-0700), Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 03:17:27PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
> 
> > When I ran ifconfig on the Linux platform it showed the unet
> > connection to be 162.237.98.238!!?  The LAN modem employs DCHP
> > set with allowed IP range as 192.168.1.64 through 192.168.1.253,
> > which was set by the T installer when we switched to a fiber optic
> > network.
> >
> > Further examination of the modem settings showed IP Passthrough
> > status as on (Public IP Address), which was, in fact the IP.
> 
> ATT tech support demonstrated to me that they can change the
> settings remotely.
> If they can so can some one else.
> 
> > I spent 40 minutes, on hold for 28 of those minutes, with an AT
> > UVVerse technical () person without hearing any reasons why the
> > IP was what it was.
> 
> When I signed up with ATT Uverse I accumulated hours on the phone
> trying to get email out through their server. I gave up and used my
> dialup account.
> Their tech support -- isn't. Many of those people didn't grow up
> with computers and have no idea what goes on under the hood. Even when
> you get someone in Dallas rather than Manila answers and understanding
> can be lacking.
> 
> Should anyone reading this know hjow to get exim4 to connect to
> outbound.att.net I'd love to hear about it.

Curt got the wiki, and my googling landed on
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/dsl-high-speed/KM1010523
and
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/email-support/KM1240308
It looks as though these are more up to date than the wiki.

In the first, I assume that the table rows are labelled wrongly,
but it seems to show SMTP on smtp.mail.att.net ports 465 or 587
as well as the hostname you gave. I would also try port 587 on
both hostnames: it won't be the first to give the wrong one.

The second shows how to get a suitable password for your userID.
(I would use this approach merely because I don't know anything
about oath.)

Anyway, what doesn't work for you and what response do you get
from exim?

Cheers,
David.



Re: next LTS version?

2018-07-03 Thread Matthew Crews
On 07/03/2018 02:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> Since wheezy is pretty much EOL even for security stuffs, whats the next
> version that will be LTS?
> 
> As a linuxcnc fan, I'd like to know what I have to build a rt, or
> rtai-kernel on.
> 

Jessie is now the LTS version, until 2020.

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

See also this post on the Debian website:

https://www.debian.org/News/2018/20180601



Re: next LTS version?

2018-07-03 Thread Matthew Crews
On 07/03/2018 02:52 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> Since wheezy is pretty much EOL even for security stuffs, whats the next
> version that will be LTS?
> 
> As a linuxcnc fan, I'd like to know what I have to build a rt, or
> rtai-kernel on.
> 

Jessie is now the LTS version, until 2020.

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

See also this post on the Debian website:

https://www.debian.org/News/2018/20180601



Re: next LTS version?

2018-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 July 2018 17:56:23 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 05:52:13PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> >
> > Since wheezy is pretty much EOL even for security stuffs, whats the
> > next version that will be LTS?
> >
> > As a linuxcnc fan, I'd like to know what I have to build a rt, or
> > rtai-kernel on.
>
> Depending on your use case, the limited support which continues for
> wheezy mighty adequate for your needs:
>
> https://deb.freexian.com/extended-lts/
>
Humm, TANSTAAFL. Lowest cost per year is 300 USD. I'd have to discuss 
that with the better half.

However its nice to know there is a possibility of its being self 
supporting.  Thank you for the link.
 
> Regards,
>
> -Roberto



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 



Re: next LTS version?

2018-07-03 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 05:52:13PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> Greetings all;
> 
> Since wheezy is pretty much EOL even for security stuffs, whats the next 
> version that will be LTS?
> 
> As a linuxcnc fan, I'd like to know what I have to build a rt, or 
> rtai-kernel on.
> 
Depending on your use case, the limited support which continues for
wheezy mighty adequate for your needs:

https://deb.freexian.com/extended-lts/

Regards,

-Roberto

-- 
Roberto C. Sánchez



next LTS version?

2018-07-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all;

Since wheezy is pretty much EOL even for security stuffs, whats the next 
version that will be LTS?

As a linuxcnc fan, I'd like to know what I have to build a rt, or 
rtai-kernel on.

-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 



XOpenIM errors

2018-07-03 Thread Brian Cary
Greetings,
I'm running a new Debian 9.4 system - I was a longtime Ubuntu user.
I'm trying to figure out why I get these errors when I run a
game dev program called "Godot". Didn't have the problem
in Ubuntu, so I assume it's something different with Debian?
Google and the Godot community have no idea, so
I'm throwing up a "Hail Mary" here. I totally understand
if no one wants to tackle this though.

Here're the error messages, they show up in the terminal
when running the program Godot from there:


0:00:00:0004 - XOpenIM failed
--
Type:Warning
Description:
Time: 0:00:00:0004
C Error: XOpenIM failed
C Source: platform/x11/os_x11.cpp:231
C Function: initialize


and


0:00:00:0085 - XCreateIC couldn't create xic
--
Type:Warning
Description:
Time: 0:00:00:0085
C Error: XCreateIC couldn't create xic
C Source: platform/x11/os_x11.cpp:415
C Function: initialize


I have no idea what any of that even means. Thoughts?

Thanks,
--Brian


Re: ajoûter un dictionnaire à vim

2018-07-03 Thread Bernard Schoenacker



- Mail original -
> De: "Guillaume Clercin" 
> À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Juillet 2018 17:48:23
> Objet: Re: ajoûter un dictionnaire à vim
> 
> Salut,
> 
> Le mardi 3 juillet 2018, 17:20:42 CEST Marc Chantreux a écrit :
> > salut,
> > 
> > :h 'dictionary'
> > :set dict+=/etc/passwd
> Étrange comme dictionnaire, je pense qu'il soit préférable d'utiliser
> le
> fichier « /usr/share/dict/french » plutôt que « /etc/passwd ».
> 
> > 
> > au passage tu peux aussi utiliser la complétion avec les bases des
> > 
> > correcteurs orthographiques:
> > :set spell spelllang=fr cpt+=kpell
> > 
> > a+
> > marc
> 
> --
> Guillaume Clercin

bonjour,

merci pour les tuyaux

slt
bernard



Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 03/07/2018 à 02:42, David Wright a écrit :

On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 21:58:15 (+0200), john doe wrote:


It could be that the ISP router went into "bridge mode" (router
function was disabled).


Which is rather worrying as you are exposed to the Internet
without any security.


Why "without any security" ?
Bridge mode does not cancel the intrinsic security of the host.
Besides, the security provided by the router mode is questionable. I 
would not rely on any ISP-provided device for my LAN security.




Re: atime not updated after 24 hours

2018-07-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Le 02/07/2018 à 14:26, Greg Wooledge a écrit :

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 08:40:02PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote:

I have two file systems of the same type (ext3) and mounted with
the same options (rw, relatime, data=ordered).



From mount(8):


relatime
   Update inode access times relative to  modify  or  change  time.
   Access time is only updated if the previous access time was ear‐
   lier than the  current  modify  or  change  time.   (Similar  to
   noatime,  but  it  doesn't break mutt or other applications that
   need to know if a file has been read since the last time it  was
   modified.)


What is your point?
The quote is incomplete. Here is the rest :

Since Linux 2.6.30, the kernel defaults to the behavior provided
by this option (unless noatime was  specified), and the stricta-
time  option  is  required  to  obtain traditional semantics. In
addition, since Linux 2.6.30, the file's  last  access  time  is
always  updated  if  it  is more than 1 day old.




Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread Curt
On 2018-07-03, Mike McClain  wrote:
>
> Should anyone reading this know hjow to get exim4 to connect to
> outbound.att.net I'd love to hear about it.
>

There's the (perhaps outdated) wiki:

https://wiki.debian.org/ATTUverseExim4

Maybe you are already aware of the wiki.



Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread Mike McClain
On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 03:17:27PM -0400, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

> When I ran ifconfig on the Linux platform it showed the unet
> connection to be 162.237.98.238!!?  The LAN modem employs DCHP
> set with allowed IP range as 192.168.1.64 through 192.168.1.253,
> which was set by the T installer when we switched to a fiber optic
> network.
>
> Further examination of the modem settings showed IP Passthrough
> status as on (Public IP Address), which was, in fact the IP.

ATT tech support demonstrated to me that they can change the
settings remotely.
If they can so can some one else.

> I spent 40 minutes, on hold for 28 of those minutes, with an AT
> UVVerse technical () person without hearing any reasons why the
> IP was what it was.

When I signed up with ATT Uverse I accumulated hours on the phone
trying to get email out through their server. I gave up and used my
dialup account.
Their tech support -- isn't. Many of those people didn't grow up
with computers and have no idea what goes on under the hood. Even when
you get someone in Dallas rather than Manila answers and understanding
can be lacking.

Should anyone reading this know hjow to get exim4 to connect to
outbound.att.net I'd love to hear about it.

Mike
--
Where man is there will be trouble to the end of time,
if not of one sort, then of another."
- Louis L'Amour



Re: sqlite database

2018-07-03 Thread David Wright
On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 20:39:33 (+0100), Joe wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Jul 2018 14:02:31 -0500
> David Wright  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 19:50:35 (+0200), deloptes wrote:
> > > David Wright wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Well, it's always difficult to know what the OP¹ is really after.
> > > > The ?first time this came up (17 months ago), "minimal" was in
> > > > the subject line, sqlite was looked at favourably, but the fact
> > > > that it had a web interface was seen as a downer, perhaps because
> > > > the word "web" appeared to contradict "no networking".  
> > > 
> > > But sqlite does have only CLI interface - the rest is not
> > > mandatory.  
> > 
> > I agree, and the OP¹ has frequently said that CLIs are ok.
> > But the OP¹ voraciously consults HOWTOs, and said:
> > 
> > "Many presume a WEB-SERVER is involved."
> > 
> > I don't know what others glean from this, but to me it sounds as if
> > the mention of "web" taints the software somehow, perhaps
> > subconciously.
> 
> Rightly so. If you don't currently run a web server, then needing to do
> so just to administer an unrelated application would seem illogical,
> not to mention annoying.

I wrote "any *mention* of web" might put off the OP¹. Nothing about
*needing to*. The fact that many *want to* makes it a popular topic
for HOWTOs, but it's not a need.

> Today, the vast majority of database applications also involve a web
> server, so there's usually no extra overhead in using it for database
> administration. But that's not true for everyone.

Virtually every PC runs a browser of some sort, and almost all
browsers contain a database application. But most people aren't
running a web server on their PC.

Now, many electronic devices of all varieties are sold with extremely
perfunctory built-in interfaces and require an external browser to
exploit their full functionality (see below). Most of us use one: our
router. But the web *server* is in the device, not in people's PC.

> And if you have an application for a database management system of some
> kind, then that application itself is surely the main method of
> manipulating the DBMS. You need very little extra administration,
> particularly in Debian where databases, users and privileges are
> generally set up automagically. This is why I'm not particularly fluent
> with the mariadb command line: I might use it two or three times a
> year, and I always have to read up on it again when I do.

With sqlite, the commandline is not something that you're forced to
use to administrate the DB (there's no such concept anyway); it's a
choice, just one method of accessing it. You could use Debian's
sqlitebrowser exclusively, or one of the language bindings,
according to preference.

The fact is that the model:

   Device in a clean shiny boxPC/Mobile
_ __
||  WiFi  ||
| functionality ↔ sqlite db ↔ web server | ←→ |Browser |
||||

is popping up everywhere nowadays, so it's hardly surprising that
some tutorials focus on this, and the same holds for models involving
client/server DBs too, so more tutorials on that. It's popular,
but it's not a requirement.

I googled   simple sqlite example   and one of the top hits was
http://www.sqlitetutorial.net/

Looking that over, I can't see anthing to put the OP¹ off². For
someone coming from dBASEII and wanting to learn about modern
Relational DataBase Management Systems, it would seem a perfect
fit (to repeat myself). I can't see the desirability of the
client/server model in the OP¹'s situation as it just adds a
layer of administrative complexity for no payback. Perhaps I'm
reading the wrong meaning of their "minimal". Still awaiting
counterexamples.

² OTOH for this post, the diagram above might be offputting.

Cheers,
David.



Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-03 Thread Alex Muntada
Hola Àlex,

> El que penso ara és que si algú busca "Debian català" el que li
> apareix és:
> 
>   https://www.debian.org/international/Catalan/
>   https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-catalan/

De fet, apareix en segon lloc el @debiancat de Twitter, que
sembla mig abandonat i potser seria un bon lloc on enllaçar
el wiki o el que ens interessi més.

També he vist que debian.cat està registrat però no s'està
utilitzant (seria un altre lloc ideal per fer difusió).

No tinc ni idea de qui els gestiona ni amb quin propòsit.

> No sé si podré estar aquest dissabte a la trobada.

En cas que vinguis serà un plaer tornar-te a veure i sinó
espero que passis un bon estiu.

Salut!

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Re: ajoûter un dictionnaire à vim

2018-07-03 Thread Guillaume Clercin
Salut,

Le mardi 3 juillet 2018, 17:20:42 CEST Marc Chantreux a écrit :
> salut,
> 
> :h 'dictionary'
> :set dict+=/etc/passwd
Étrange comme dictionnaire, je pense qu'il soit préférable d'utiliser le 
fichier « /usr/share/dict/french » plutôt que « /etc/passwd ».

> 
> au passage tu peux aussi utiliser la complétion avec les bases des
> 
> correcteurs orthographiques:
> :set spell spelllang=fr cpt+=kpell
> 
> a+
> marc

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Re: Bug related to "USB"/unknown package

2018-07-03 Thread Benjamin Herwig
Hi Mike,

Thank you a lot. Problem is solved. :-)

Best greetings, thanks again
Benjamin

On 03/07/18 13:53, Michael Stone wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 01:18:57PM +0200, Benjamin Herwig wrote:
>> I encountered some strange USB behaviour (also others on the internet,
>> for example
>> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/what-does-cdc_acm-unknown-symbol-refcount_inc_not_zero-err-0-in-dmesg-mean-4175633136/)
>>
>>
>> Attaching an Arduino to my computer gives an errormessage (cdc_acm:
>> Unknown symbol refcount_inc_not_zero (err 0)) and no /dev/ttyACM* is
>> bound.
> 
> Have you rebooted since your last kernel upgrade?
> 
> Mike Stone

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Re: ajoûter un dictionnaire à vim

2018-07-03 Thread Marc Chantreux
salut,

:h 'dictionary'
:set dict+=/etc/passwd

au passage tu peux aussi utiliser la complétion avec les bases des
correcteurs orthographiques:

:set spell spelllang=fr cpt+=kpell


a+
marc



ajoûter un dictionnaire à vim

2018-07-03 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour,

cf sujet et comment faire ?

merci

slt
bernard



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread David BERCOT
Ca a aidé ;-)

Je me suis en effet rendu compte que j'avais encore du PHP5.
J'ai tout effacé cette partie et ré-installé le PHP7.0 utilisé par
NextCloud.

Tout fonctionne !!!

Merci beaucoup.

David.

Le 03/07/2018 à 16:29, fab a écrit :
> je ne sais si ça peut aider mais:
> 
> dans mon phpinfo(), j'ai :
> 
> PHP Version 7.2.4-1+b2
> Additional .ini files parsed : /etc/php/7.2/apache2/conf.d/20-curl.ini
> curl
> cURL support enabled
> cURL Information 7.60.0
> 
> cURL Sterling Hughes
> 
> dans /etc/php/7.2/apache2/conf.d/20-curl.ini, j'ai :
> 
> FA:/var/www/owncloud# cat /etc/php/7.2/apache2/conf.d/20-curl.ini
> ; configuration for php curl module
> ; priority=20
> extension=curl.so
> 
> et
> 
> FA:/var/www/owncloud# locate curl.so
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
> /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.5.0
> /usr/lib/php/20160303/curl.so
> /usr/lib/php/20170718/curl.so
> 
> FA:/var/www/owncloud# dpkg -al|grep curl
> ii  curl 7.60.0-2 i386
> ii  libcurl3-gnutls:i386 7.60.0-2 i386
> ii  libcurl4:i386 7.60.0-2 i386
> ii  php-curl 1:7.2+61 all CURL module for PHP [default]
> ii  php7.1-curl 7.1.16-1+b2 i386 CURL module for PHP
> ii  php7.2-curl 7.2.4-1+b2 i386 CURL module for PHP
> ii  python3-pycurl 7.43.0.1-0.2+b1 i386
> 
> Est-ce possible de debugger le démarrage d'apache2 pour voir pourquoi
> curl ne se charge pas ?
> 
> f.
> 
> 
> 
> 



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread fab

je ne sais si ça peut aider mais:

dans mon phpinfo(), j'ai :

PHP Version 7.2.4-1+b2
Additional .ini files parsed : /etc/php/7.2/apache2/conf.d/20-curl.ini
curl
cURL supportenabled
cURL Information7.60.0

cURLSterling Hughes

dans /etc/php/7.2/apache2/conf.d/20-curl.ini, j'ai :

FA:/var/www/owncloud# cat /etc/php/7.2/apache2/conf.d/20-curl.ini
; configuration for php curl module
; priority=20
extension=curl.so

et

FA:/var/www/owncloud# locate curl.so
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4.5.0
/usr/lib/php/20160303/curl.so
/usr/lib/php/20170718/curl.so

FA:/var/www/owncloud# dpkg -al|grep curl
ii  curl 7.60.0-2 i386
ii  libcurl3-gnutls:i386 7.60.0-2 i386
ii  libcurl4:i386 7.60.0-2 i386
ii  php-curl 1:7.2+61 all CURL module for PHP [default]
ii  php7.1-curl 7.1.16-1+b2 i386 CURL module for PHP
ii  php7.2-curl 7.2.4-1+b2 i386 CURL module for PHP
ii  python3-pycurl 7.43.0.1-0.2+b1 i386

Est-ce possible de debugger le démarrage d'apache2 pour voir pourquoi 
curl ne se charge pas ?


f.





Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread Bernard Schoenacker



- Mail original -
> De: "Bernard Schoenacker" 
> À: "David BERCOT" , "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org 
> French"
> 
> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Juillet 2018 15:40:56
> Objet: Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> pour déverminer la situation ...
> 
> sur mon serveur happy-tux
> 
> apt-cache policy php7.0
> php7.0:
>   Installé : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
>   Candidat : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
>  Table de version :
>  *** 7.0.27-0+deb9u1 500
> 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64
> Packages
> 500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security
> stretch/updates/main amd64 Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> 
> apt-cache policy php7.0-curl
> php7.0-curl:
>   Installé : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
>   Candidat : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
>  Table de version :
>  *** 7.0.27-0+deb9u1 500
> 500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64
> Packages
> 500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security
> stretch/updates/main amd64 Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 
> dpkg -l |awk '/php7.0/ {print $1"  "$2"   "$3}'
> ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-bz2   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-cli   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-common   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-curl   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-intl   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-json   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-ldap   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-mbstring   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-mysql   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-opcache   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-readline   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-xml   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  php7.0-zip   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> 
> 
> dpkg -l |awk '/apache/ {print $1"  "$2"   "$3}'
> ii  apache2   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
> ii  apache2-bin   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
> ii  apache2-data   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
> ii  apache2-utils   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
> ii  dehydrated-apache2   0.6.2-1~bpo9+1
> ii  letsencrypt.sh-apache2   0.3.1-3+deb9u1
> ii  libapache-poi-java   3.10.1-3
> ii  libapache-pom-java   10-2
> ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
> ii  libapache2-mpm-itk   2.4.7-04-1
> ii  python-certbot-apache   0.10.2-1
> 
> 
> 
> mon sources.list pour happy-tux:
> 
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
> # deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free
> contrib
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main
> contrib non-free
> # deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates
> main contrib non-free
> 
> # stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib
> non-free
> # deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main
> contrib non-free
> 
> # stretch-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main contrib
> non-free
> # deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main
> contrib non-free
> 
> qu'est ce que tu as mis dans ton sources.list comme dépot ?
> 
> et si possible recommence l'install en faisant marche arrière et en
> supprimant
> nextcloud ...
> 
> tu récupères les données en sauvegarde et tu installes l'archive zip
> 
> je me suis cassé les dents dessus, alors continue à faire comme bon
> te sembles
> 
> merci
> 
> slt
> bernard
> 
> 
ps. : et pour curl :

dpkg -l |awk '/curl/ {print $1"  "$2"   "$3}'
ii  curl   7.52.1-5+deb9u6
ii  libcurl3:amd64   7.52.1-5+deb9u6
ii  libcurl3-gnutls:amd64   7.52.1-5+deb9u6
ii  php-curl   1:7.0+49
ii  php7.0-curl   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  python3-pycurl   7.43.0-2



Re: Tecla NumLock - BloqNum activa cuando arranca Debian Strech

2018-07-03 Thread Felix Perez
El 3 de julio de 2018, 04:54, Joan Carles Albiñana Medina
 escribió:
> Buenos dias,
>
> Estoy instalando PRIMTUX, una distribución basada en Debian Strech para
> escuelas de primaria francesas. Me voy a Senegal y otros paises a montar
> escuelas y de ayuda humanitaria.
>
> Por supuesto con Software libre, PRIMTUX y Ubuntu Studio
>
> Por favor que alguien me ayude a desactivar la tecla NumLock - BloqNum en el
> arranque tanto de el menú de usuarios como del arranque de sesión.
>

https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/numlockx/numlockx.1.en.html
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/numlockx.1.html

Suerte.

> Es un fastidio y los alumnos siempre preguntan.
>
> Y si me podeis dar ideas para temas educativos tanto en francés como en
> inglés os lo agradeceré mucho. También voy a Camerún, Nigeria, Chad .  .  .
>
> También tengo que hacer formularios web para que se matriculen. Soy
> ingeniero, se electronica, mecánica y he diseñado máquinas, pero llevo un
> par de años con el linux a tope y tampoco se tanto de programación. La
> última vez que programé fue en los años 80 y en código máquina. Aunque viví
> todo desde los primeros ordenadors SINCLAIR, cuando grababamos los programas
> en un cassete.
>
> Un poco acojonado estoy por lo que me pueda encontrar pero me voy a hacer
> algo para cambiar estos dramas humanos.
>
> Gracias
>
>



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Re: Tecla NumLock - BloqNum activa cuando arranca Debian Strech

2018-07-03 Thread Felix Perez
El 3 de julio de 2018, 04:54, Joan Carles Albiñana Medina
 escribió:
> Buenos dias,
>
> Estoy instalando PRIMTUX, una distribución basada en Debian Strech para
> escuelas de primaria francesas. Me voy a Senegal y otros paises a montar
> escuelas y de ayuda humanitaria.
>
> Por supuesto con Software libre, PRIMTUX y Ubuntu Studio
>
> Por favor que alguien me ayude a desactivar la tecla NumLock - BloqNum en el
> arranque tanto de el menú de usuarios como del arranque de sesión.
>

Revisa esta página dice como activar pero podrías probar para desactivar:
http://www.evaristogz.com/activar-bloq-num-linux/

Saludos.

> Es un fastidio y los alumnos siempre preguntan.
>
> Y si me podeis dar ideas para temas educativos tanto en francés como en
> inglés os lo agradeceré mucho. También voy a Camerún, Nigeria, Chad .  .  .
>
> También tengo que hacer formularios web para que se matriculen. Soy
> ingeniero, se electronica, mecánica y he diseñado máquinas, pero llevo un
> par de años con el linux a tope y tampoco se tanto de programación. La
> última vez que programé fue en los años 80 y en código máquina. Aunque viví
> todo desde los primeros ordenadors SINCLAIR, cuando grababamos los programas
> en un cassete.
>
> Un poco acojonado estoy por lo que me pueda encontrar pero me voy a hacer
> algo para cambiar estos dramas humanos.
>
> Gracias
>
>



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Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
bonjour,

pour déverminer la situation ...

sur mon serveur happy-tux

apt-cache policy php7.0 
php7.0:
  Installé : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
  Candidat : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
 Table de version :
 *** 7.0.27-0+deb9u1 500
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/main 
amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status


apt-cache policy php7.0-curl
php7.0-curl:
  Installé : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
  Candidat : 7.0.27-0+deb9u1
 Table de version :
 *** 7.0.27-0+deb9u1 500
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 Packages
500 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/main 
amd64 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

dpkg -l |awk '/php7.0/ {print $1"  "$2"   "$3}'
ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-bz2   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-cli   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-common   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-curl   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-intl   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-json   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-ldap   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-mbstring   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-mysql   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-opcache   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-readline   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-xml   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  php7.0-zip   7.0.27-0+deb9u1


dpkg -l |awk '/apache/ {print $1"  "$2"   "$3}'
ii  apache2   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
ii  apache2-bin   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
ii  apache2-data   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
ii  apache2-utils   2.4.25-3+deb9u4
ii  dehydrated-apache2   0.6.2-1~bpo9+1
ii  letsencrypt.sh-apache2   0.3.1-3+deb9u1
ii  libapache-poi-java   3.10.1-3
ii  libapache-pom-java   10-2
ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.27-0+deb9u1
ii  libapache2-mpm-itk   2.4.7-04-1
ii  python-certbot-apache   0.10.2-1



mon sources.list pour happy-tux:

deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib
# deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch main non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main contrib 
non-free
# deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates main 
contrib non-free

# stretch-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates main contrib non-free

# stretch-backports, previously on backports.debian.org
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ stretch-backports main contrib 
non-free

qu'est ce que tu as mis dans ton sources.list comme dépot ?

et si possible recommence l'install en faisant marche arrière et en supprimant 
nextcloud ...

tu récupères les données en sauvegarde et tu installes l'archive zip 

je me suis cassé les dents dessus, alors continue à faire comme bon te sembles

merci 

slt
bernard



Re: Losing video output when hibernating with HDMI plugged

2018-07-03 Thread Dominik George
Hi,

> I've got a Dell Latitude E6220 (with "Intel Corporation 2nd Generation
> Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)"
> according to lspci) running Debian stretch, with the Xfce4 desktop.
> After a fresh boot, when I plug an external monitor into its HDMI
> port, the internal display flickers for a moment then both screens
> show a mirrored image. Originally Xfce4 would automatically start
> `xfce4-display-settings -m` in that situation, and I could click to
> disable the internal screen etc. Problem is when I hibernate before
> unplugging the external monitor, after resume the laptop will neither
> show any video to the external screen nor the internal one.

I can reproduce this issue with current sid, on a Lenovo Thinkpad T470s
(00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 620 (rev
02)), with KDE.

-nik


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Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread David BERCOT
Le 03/07/2018 à 13:35, Ph. Gras a écrit :
> Salut,
> 
>> Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe 
>> (http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
> 
> quelle version de Nextcloud as-tu installé ?

13.0.4~stretch

> Comment as-tu eu l'assurance qu'elle est compatible avec la version de PHP 
> avec
> laquelle tourne ton serveur Web (Apache ou autre) ?

J'ai plusieurs versions installées ;-)
A priori, elle se base sur la 7.0.

> On n'a récemment pas réussi à se dépatouiller d'une histoire similaire avec 
> un autre
> membre de la liste debian-user-french disposant de 2 versions différentes de 
> PHP…
> 
> https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/13/admin_manual/installation/system_requirements.html

Disons qu'il ne semble pas y avoir beaucoup de problème à l'exception de curl...

David.

> Au plaisir,
> 
> Ph. Gras
> 
> 



Re: Losing video output when hibernating with HDMI plugged

2018-07-03 Thread Christian Jaeger
FWIW, the workaround doesn't fully (or at all?) solve the issue, every
few days it will still refuse to show video on the external HDMI until
rebooted.

2018-06-08 15:05 GMT+01:00, Christian Jaeger :
> I just realized that I can at least implement a somewhat lame
> workaround, which is to automatically switch to the internal screen
> from the hibernate command. That appears to work okay. It would still
> be interesting to know how xrandr or whatever is behind it actually
> works, though (and document it properly).
>



Re: Bug related to "USB"/unknown package

2018-07-03 Thread Michael Stone

On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 01:18:57PM +0200, Benjamin Herwig wrote:

I encountered some strange USB behaviour (also others on the internet,
for example
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/what-does-cdc_acm-unknown-symbol-refcount_inc_not_zero-err-0-in-dmesg-mean-4175633136/)

Attaching an Arduino to my computer gives an errormessage (cdc_acm:
Unknown symbol refcount_inc_not_zero (err 0)) and no /dev/ttyACM* is bound.


Have you rebooted since your last kernel upgrade?

Mike Stone



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread Ph. Gras
Salut,

> Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe 
> (http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).

quelle version de Nextcloud as-tu installé ?

Comment as-tu eu l'assurance qu'elle est compatible avec la version de PHP avec
laquelle tourne ton serveur Web (Apache ou autre) ?

On n'a récemment pas réussi à se dépatouiller d'une histoire similaire avec un 
autre
membre de la liste debian-user-french disposant de 2 versions différentes de 
PHP…

https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/13/admin_manual/installation/system_requirements.html

Au plaisir,

Ph. Gras



Bug related to "USB"/unknown package

2018-07-03 Thread Benjamin Herwig
Dear Debian maintainers,

I am currently on testing (buster).

I encountered some strange USB behaviour (also others on the internet,
for example
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/what-does-cdc_acm-unknown-symbol-refcount_inc_not_zero-err-0-in-dmesg-mean-4175633136/)

Attaching an Arduino to my computer gives an errormessage (cdc_acm:
Unknown symbol refcount_inc_not_zero (err 0)) and no /dev/ttyACM* is bound.

This is completely new and I dont know of any failure from my side.

Could you please assist me on how to file that bug?

Thank yu for all your efforts, best greetings!
Benjamin

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Re: comunicació llista / chat Debian català

2018-07-03 Thread alex

Hola Álex



Ara mateix no recordo anunciar per llista que hagués un xat.


No em queda clar a quin xat et refereixes: hi ha el canal
#debian-catalan a irc.debian.org, que fa molt de temps que
funciona i que s'esmenta a la pàgina oficial del grup a
https://wiki.debian.org/LocalGroups/DebianCat des del primer
dia.


Era el de Riot. Tens raó, és a la wiki, i al missatge de la llista que 
afegeixes.


El que penso ara és que si algú busca "Debian català" el que li apareix 
és:


  https://www.debian.org/international/Catalan/
  https://lists.debian.org/debian-user-catalan/

Però ja és més difícil que li aparegui al cercador la wiki, que alhora 
adreça al canal de xat.


Com tu bé dius, potser a la primera no és apropiat, i potser a la segona 
no es pot personalitzar el missatge de benvinguda amb un enllaç a la 
wiki.


No sé si podré estar aquest dissabte a la trobada.

Salutacions a tothom,


   Àlex



Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread Joe
On Tue, 03 Jul 2018 10:53:27 +0100
Jeremy Nicoll  wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, at 07:19, john doe wrote:
> 
> > You are correct in the case of an ADSL "router".
> > 
> > Sadly, in the case of my European ISP I'm stuck with what they give
> > me! I must say that I've never investigated how I could use my own
> > cable modem and understand the kind of restriction they're using to
> > prevent me from doing that!!! :)  
> 
> I've a Virgin Media cable connection in the UK.  They supply a
> combined modem/router.But the unit can be put into modem-only
> mode, and used with a different router.  
> 
> So far as I remember the first of these combined things that I
> received came with only very basic instructions that did not mention
> the way to do this - it was Virgin's own technical support people who
> told me how to do it.Subsequent improved models have come with
> instructions that mentioned the possibility.
> 

In general, there is no need to switch to modem only, unless you
definitely want to handle the public address directly on your firewall.
Almost always, you can put your own NAT firewall behind an existing NAT
router without problems.

I say almost, because about ten years ago, a client of mine moved
premises and was given a new router which detected any such second NAT
stage and refused to function. Not a bug, a deliberate policy. Really
quite annoying, I needed to reconfigure several network machines to
work with this router, and lost my detailed firewall control.

-- 
Joe



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread David BERCOT
root@server:/var/log/apache2# php -m
[PHP Modules]
[...]
curl
[...]

Là, il semble présent...

Honnêtement, je ne comprends pas bien...

David.

Le 03/07/2018 à 11:26, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit :
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> 
> Le mardi 03 juillet 2018, Damien Berry a écrit...
> 
> 
>> // peut être tu as déjà regarder de ce côté.
>> Quand il y a des problème de module PHP, regarder avec une page 
>> > phpinfo();
>> ?>
>> pour connaitre les modules réellement actifs.
> 
> `php -m` ça aide aussi.
> 



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread David BERCOT
Merci pour la suggestion mais j'ai bien toutes les versions de php ;-)
root@server:/var/log/apache2# dpkg -l | grep php | grep curl
ii  php-curl1:7.2+61 all  
CURL module for PHP [default]
ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
CURL module for PHP
ii  php7.2-curl 7.2.4-1+b2   amd64
CURL module for PHP

David.

Le 03/07/2018 à 09:34, fab a écrit :
> 'lut,
> 
> Tiens avec oc, j'ai eu un truc similaire il y a quelques semaines. Je ne
> sais pas si c'est lié mais voici comment je pense avoir réglé le problème.
> 
> Sur buster, on est en php7.2 et donc j'avais bien dpkg -l | grep php7.2
> qui me donnait la liste de tous les modules nécessaire à oc.
> 
> Seulement, lorsque je faisais dpkg -l | grep php, je n'avais pas tous
> les packages php correspondant. Je ai les donc installés. Par exemple,
> j'avais bien php7.2-curl mais pas php-curl.
> 
> En espérant que ça aide,
> 
> a+
> 
> f.
> 
> 
> Le 03/07/2018 à 09:07, David BERCOT a écrit :
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Comme cela fait plusieurs jours que je cherche sans résultat, je tente
>> ma chance sur la liste ;-)
>>
>> Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe
>> (http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
>> Celle-ci s'est bien passé et le logiciel est "presque" opérationnel.
>>
>> Toutefois, quand je le lance, j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
>> Le module PHP cURL n’est pas installé.
>> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur d’installer le module.
>> Les modules PHP ont été installés mais sont toujours indiqués comme
>> manquants ?
>> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur serveur de redémarrer le
>> serveur web.
>>
>> Bien évidemment, le module est installé, etc.
>> A priori, NextCloud utilise PHP 7.0 (j'ai aussi du 7.2 installé).
>> root@server:~# dpkg -l | grep php7.0
>> ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2
>> module)
>> ii  php7.0  7.0.29-1
>> all  server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage)
>> ii  php7.0-cgi  7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
>> ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    command-line interpreter for the PHP scripting language
>> ii  php7.0-common   7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    documentation, examples and common module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    CURL module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    GD module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-intl 7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    Internationalisation module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-json 7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    JSON module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-ldap 7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    LDAP module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    MBSTRING module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    libmcrypt module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-mysql    7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    MySQL module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    Zend OpCache module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-pgsql    7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    PostgreSQL module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    pspell module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-readline 7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    readline module for PHP
>> rc  php7.0-soap 7.0.4-4 
>> amd64    SOAP module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-sqlite3  7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    SQLite3 module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-xml  7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-zip  7.0.29-1+b2 
>> amd64    Zip module for PHP
>>
>> Est-ce que vous auriez une piste ?
>>
>> Merci d'avance.
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 



Re: Nvidia 340 driver bug

2018-07-03 Thread Pétùr
Le 02/06/2018 à 17:17, dekkz...@gmail.com a écrit :
> 
> 
> This is a bug in the nvidia driver module. There is not much you can do
> until it is fixed upstream.
> 
> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/1031067/
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=899201


There is a patch :

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1425704

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1570493

Pétùr



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread David BERCOT
Le 03/07/2018 à 09:24, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
> 
> - Mail original -
>> De: "David BERCOT" 
>> À: "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org French" 
>> 
>> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Juillet 2018 09:07:07
>> Objet: NextCloud, PHP et CURL
>>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Comme cela fait plusieurs jours que je cherche sans résultat, je
>> tente ma chance sur la liste ;-)
>>
>> Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe
>> (http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
>> Celle-ci s'est bien passé et le logiciel est "presque" opérationnel.
>>
>> Toutefois, quand je le lance, j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
>> Le module PHP cURL n’est pas installé.
>> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur d’installer le module.
>> Les modules PHP ont été installés mais sont toujours indiqués comme
>> manquants ?
>> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur serveur de redémarrer le
>> serveur web.
>>
>> Bien évidemment, le module est installé, etc.
>> A priori, NextCloud utilise PHP 7.0 (j'ai aussi du 7.2 installé).
>> root@server:~# dpkg -l | grep php7.0
>> ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64server-side, HTML-embedded scripting
>> language (Apache 2 module)
>> ii  php7.0  7.0.29-1 all
>>  server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage)
>> ii  php7.0-cgi  7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64server-side, HTML-embedded scripting
>> language (CGI binary)
>> ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64command-line interpreter for the PHP
>> scripting language
>> ii  php7.0-common   7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64documentation, examples and common
>> module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64CURL module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64GD module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-intl 7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64Internationalisation module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-json 7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64JSON module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-ldap 7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64LDAP module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64MBSTRING module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64libmcrypt module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-mysql7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64MySQL module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64Zend OpCache module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-pgsql7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64PostgreSQL module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64pspell module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-readline 7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64readline module for PHP
>> rc  php7.0-soap 7.0.4-4
>>  amd64SOAP module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-sqlite3  7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64SQLite3 module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-xml  7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL
>> module for PHP
>> ii  php7.0-zip  7.0.29-1+b2
>>  amd64Zip module for PHP
>>
>> Est-ce que vous auriez une piste ?
>>
>> Merci d'avance.
>>
>> David.
> 
> bonjour,
> 
> serait il possible de faire marche arrière en installant
> "php7.0" 7.0.27-0+deb9u1 ?

Je ne l'ai plus dans les repos.
Ça changerait quelque chose ?

David.

> merci
> 
> slt
> bernard



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread David BERCOT
Re-bonjour,

En effet, bonne suggestion ;-)
Curl n'apparaît pas dans la liste des modules chargés...

Je ne comprends pas bien pourquoi...

J'ai regardé dans les logs mais sans y trouver quelque chose de
significatif...

David.

Le 03/07/2018 à 09:19, Damien Berry a écrit :
> Bonjour,
> // peut être tu as déjà regarder de ce côté.
> Quand il y a des problème de module PHP, regarder avec une page 
>  phpinfo();
> ?>
> pour connaitre les modules réellement actifs.
> 
> sinon les logs ...
> augmenter la verbosité des logs si besoin et consulter les fichiers de logs 
> au moment ou le message d'erreur arrive dans NextCloud.
> 
> Damien
> 
> De : David BERCOT 
> Envoyé : mardi 3 juillet 2018 09:07
> À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org French
> Objet : NextCloud, PHP et CURL
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> Comme cela fait plusieurs jours que je cherche sans résultat, je tente ma 
> chance sur la liste ;-)
> 
> Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe 
> (http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
> Celle-ci s'est bien passé et le logiciel est "presque" opérationnel.
> 
> Toutefois, quand je le lance, j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
> Le module PHP cURL n’est pas installé.
> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur d’installer le module.
> Les modules PHP ont été installés mais sont toujours indiqués comme manquants 
> ?
> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur serveur de redémarrer le serveur web.
> 
> Bien évidemment, le module est installé, etc.
> A priori, NextCloud utilise PHP 7.0 (j'ai aussi du 7.2 installé).
> root@server:~# dpkg -l | grep php7.0
> ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module)
> ii  php7.0  7.0.29-1 all  
> server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage)
> ii  php7.0-cgi  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
> ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> command-line interpreter for the PHP scripting language
> ii  php7.0-common   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> documentation, examples and common module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> CURL module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> GD module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-intl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> Internationalisation module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-json 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> JSON module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-ldap 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> LDAP module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> MBSTRING module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> libmcrypt module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-mysql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> MySQL module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> Zend OpCache module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-pgsql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> PostgreSQL module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> pspell module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-readline 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> readline module for PHP
> rc  php7.0-soap 7.0.4-4  amd64
> SOAP module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-sqlite3  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> SQLite3 module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-xml  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-zip  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
> Zip module for PHP
> 
> Est-ce que vous auriez une piste ?
> 
> Merci d'avance.
> 
> David.
> 
> 
> 



Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018, at 07:19, john doe wrote:

> You are correct in the case of an ADSL "router".
> 
> Sadly, in the case of my European ISP I'm stuck with what they give me!
> I must say that I've never investigated how I could use my own cable 
> modem and understand the kind of restriction they're using to prevent me 
> from doing that!!! :)

I've a Virgin Media cable connection in the UK.  They supply a combined
modem/router.But the unit can be put into modem-only mode, and
used with a different router.  

So far as I remember the first of these combined things that I received
came with only very basic instructions that did not mention the way to
do this - it was Virgin's own technical support people who told me how
to do it.Subsequent improved models have come with instructions 
that mentioned the possibility.

-- 
Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own.



Re: Webmail?

2018-07-03 Thread Darac Marjal

On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 08:02:33PM +0200, Ulf Volmer wrote:

On 02.07.2018 14:22, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Sun, Jul 01, 2018 at 05:29:02PM +0200, Ulf Volmer wrote:



there is no php5 in debian stretch.


She probably upgraded from jessie, in which case the php5 that she had
in jessie remained in place after the upgrade to stretch.


Yes, agree. And as we discussed in another thread in this list, purging
obsolete packages after a dist upgrade will also make sure that nobody
use unsupported packages like php5.


Shouldn't packages like that be removed by apt's "no longer depended on" 
logic?


For a long time, I've been using apt (and aptitude) with the mantra of 
"keep as much marked-as-auto as possible". Although I don't write php 
myself, I use packages (such as roundcube) which use php. Therefore I 
have roundcube marked as manually installed and any 
runtimes/libraries/data packages that it depends on marked as 
automatically installed. In that way, if roundcube upgrades from php5 to 
php7, and nothing else depends on php5, then apt simply removes it. 
Manually install the things YOU want, let apt automatically handle the 
rest.


Even on the machines where I've followed sid, this has generally worked 
out well.


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Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA


Bonjour,


Le mardi 03 juillet 2018, Damien Berry a écrit...


> // peut être tu as déjà regarder de ce côté.
> Quand il y a des problème de module PHP, regarder avec une page 
>  phpinfo();
> ?>
> pour connaitre les modules réellement actifs.

`php -m` ça aide aussi.

-- 
jm



Tecla NumLock - BloqNum activa cuando arranca Debian Strech

2018-07-03 Thread Joan Carles Albiñana Medina
Buenos dias,

Estoy instalando PRIMTUX, una distribución basada en Debian Strech para
escuelas de primaria francesas. Me voy a Senegal y otros paises a montar
escuelas y de ayuda humanitaria.

Por supuesto con Software libre, PRIMTUX y Ubuntu Studio

Por favor que alguien me ayude a desactivar la tecla NumLock - BloqNum en
el arranque tanto de el menú de usuarios como del arranque de sesión.

Es un fastidio y los alumnos siempre preguntan.

Y si me podeis dar ideas para temas educativos tanto en francés como en
inglés os lo agradeceré mucho. También voy a Camerún, Nigeria, Chad .  .  .

También tengo que hacer formularios web para que se matriculen. Soy
ingeniero, se electronica, mecánica y he diseñado máquinas, pero llevo un
par de años con el linux a tope y tampoco se tanto de programación. La
última vez que programé fue en los años 80 y en código máquina. Aunque viví
todo desde los primeros ordenadors SINCLAIR, cuando grababamos los
programas en un cassete.

Un poco acojonado estoy por lo que me pueda encontrar pero me voy a hacer
algo para cambiar estos dramas humanos.

Gracias


Re: Is apt-get dist-upgrade worth the hassle?

2018-07-03 Thread Charlie Gibbs

On 02/07/18 12:55 AM, Curt wrote:


On 2018-07-01, Charlie Gibbs  wrote:


E: You don't have enough free space in /var/cache/apt/archives/.

apt-get autoclean doesn't help; neither does apt-get clean.  When I
tried apt-get autoremove, the upgrade started, but at 99% completion it
threw the message:

Error writing to output file - write (28: No space left on device)

Sure enough, / is full, with all the fun that that entails.


https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#sufficient-space


Thank you (and everyone else) for your help.  I tried an apt-get purge 
of a large package I wasn't using, but the upgrade still failed (after 
chugging away for an hour or so).  I have two Linux partitions on my 
laptop - / and /home - and have arrived at the conclusion that 10GB for 
everything but /home is just not enough.  Given the amount of time I've 
spent on this already, I'm way past the point of diminishing returns. 
For now I'll stick to my main machine for everything (my laptop is just 
for when I'm on the road plus I use it for Usenet).  When I find the 
time I'll figure out what in my laptop's root partition needs saving 
(e.g. /var/spool/slrnpull), back it up along with /home, download the 
Stretch install disk image, then delete the partitions and start over 
with a bigger root partition (say 20GB).  Hopefully that'll hold me for 
a few releases.


--
cgi...@surfnaked.ca (Charlie Gibbs)



Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread fab

'lut,

Tiens avec oc, j'ai eu un truc similaire il y a quelques semaines. Je ne 
sais pas si c'est lié mais voici comment je pense avoir réglé le problème.


Sur buster, on est en php7.2 et donc j'avais bien dpkg -l | grep php7.2 
qui me donnait la liste de tous les modules nécessaire à oc.


Seulement, lorsque je faisais dpkg -l | grep php, je n'avais pas tous 
les packages php correspondant. Je ai les donc installés. Par exemple, 
j'avais bien php7.2-curl mais pas php-curl.


En espérant que ça aide,

a+

f.


Le 03/07/2018 à 09:07, David BERCOT a écrit :

Bonjour,

Comme cela fait plusieurs jours que je cherche sans résultat, je tente ma 
chance sur la liste ;-)

Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe 
(http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
Celle-ci s'est bien passé et le logiciel est "presque" opérationnel.

Toutefois, quand je le lance, j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
Le module PHP cURL n’est pas installé.
Veuillez demander à votre administrateur d’installer le module.
Les modules PHP ont été installés mais sont toujours indiqués comme manquants ?
Veuillez demander à votre administrateur serveur de redémarrer le serveur web.

Bien évidemment, le module est installé, etc.
A priori, NextCloud utilise PHP 7.0 (j'ai aussi du 7.2 installé).
root@server:~# dpkg -l | grep php7.0
ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module)
ii  php7.0  7.0.29-1 all  
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage)
ii  php7.0-cgi  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
command-line interpreter for the PHP scripting language
ii  php7.0-common   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
documentation, examples and common module for PHP
ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
CURL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
GD module for PHP
ii  php7.0-intl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Internationalisation module for PHP
ii  php7.0-json 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
JSON module for PHP
ii  php7.0-ldap 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
LDAP module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
MBSTRING module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
libmcrypt module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mysql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
MySQL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Zend OpCache module for PHP
ii  php7.0-pgsql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
PostgreSQL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
pspell module for PHP
ii  php7.0-readline 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
readline module for PHP
rc  php7.0-soap 7.0.4-4  amd64
SOAP module for PHP
ii  php7.0-sqlite3  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
SQLite3 module for PHP
ii  php7.0-xml  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-zip  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Zip module for PHP

Est-ce que vous auriez une piste ?

Merci d'avance.

David.







RE: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread Damien Berry
Bonjour,
// peut être tu as déjà regarder de ce côté.
Quand il y a des problème de module PHP, regarder avec une page 

pour connaitre les modules réellement actifs.

sinon les logs ...
augmenter la verbosité des logs si besoin et consulter les fichiers de logs au 
moment ou le message d'erreur arrive dans NextCloud.

Damien

De : David BERCOT 
Envoyé : mardi 3 juillet 2018 09:07
À : debian-user-french@lists.debian.org French
Objet : NextCloud, PHP et CURL

Bonjour,

Comme cela fait plusieurs jours que je cherche sans résultat, je tente ma 
chance sur la liste ;-)

Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe 
(http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
Celle-ci s'est bien passé et le logiciel est "presque" opérationnel.

Toutefois, quand je le lance, j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
Le module PHP cURL n’est pas installé.
Veuillez demander à votre administrateur d’installer le module.
Les modules PHP ont été installés mais sont toujours indiqués comme manquants ?
Veuillez demander à votre administrateur serveur de redémarrer le serveur web.

Bien évidemment, le module est installé, etc.
A priori, NextCloud utilise PHP 7.0 (j'ai aussi du 7.2 installé).
root@server:~# dpkg -l | grep php7.0
ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module)
ii  php7.0  7.0.29-1 all  
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage)
ii  php7.0-cgi  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
command-line interpreter for the PHP scripting language
ii  php7.0-common   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
documentation, examples and common module for PHP
ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
CURL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
GD module for PHP
ii  php7.0-intl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Internationalisation module for PHP
ii  php7.0-json 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
JSON module for PHP
ii  php7.0-ldap 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
LDAP module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
MBSTRING module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
libmcrypt module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mysql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
MySQL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Zend OpCache module for PHP
ii  php7.0-pgsql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
PostgreSQL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
pspell module for PHP
ii  php7.0-readline 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
readline module for PHP
rc  php7.0-soap 7.0.4-4  amd64
SOAP module for PHP
ii  php7.0-sqlite3  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
SQLite3 module for PHP
ii  php7.0-xml  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-zip  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Zip module for PHP

Est-ce que vous auriez une piste ?

Merci d'avance.

David.




Re: NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread Bernard Schoenacker



- Mail original -
> De: "David BERCOT" 
> À: "debian-user-french@lists.debian.org French" 
> 
> Envoyé: Mardi 3 Juillet 2018 09:07:07
> Objet: NextCloud, PHP et CURL
> 
> Bonjour,
> 
> Comme cela fait plusieurs jours que je cherche sans résultat, je
> tente ma chance sur la liste ;-)
> 
> Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe
> (http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
> Celle-ci s'est bien passé et le logiciel est "presque" opérationnel.
> 
> Toutefois, quand je le lance, j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
> Le module PHP cURL n’est pas installé.
> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur d’installer le module.
> Les modules PHP ont été installés mais sont toujours indiqués comme
> manquants ?
> Veuillez demander à votre administrateur serveur de redémarrer le
> serveur web.
> 
> Bien évidemment, le module est installé, etc.
> A priori, NextCloud utilise PHP 7.0 (j'ai aussi du 7.2 installé).
> root@server:~# dpkg -l | grep php7.0
> ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64server-side, HTML-embedded scripting
> language (Apache 2 module)
> ii  php7.0  7.0.29-1 all
>  server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage)
> ii  php7.0-cgi  7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64server-side, HTML-embedded scripting
> language (CGI binary)
> ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64command-line interpreter for the PHP
> scripting language
> ii  php7.0-common   7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64documentation, examples and common
> module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64CURL module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64GD module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-intl 7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64Internationalisation module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-json 7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64JSON module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-ldap 7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64LDAP module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64MBSTRING module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64libmcrypt module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-mysql7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64MySQL module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64Zend OpCache module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-pgsql7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64PostgreSQL module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64pspell module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-readline 7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64readline module for PHP
> rc  php7.0-soap 7.0.4-4
>  amd64SOAP module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-sqlite3  7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64SQLite3 module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-xml  7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL
> module for PHP
> ii  php7.0-zip  7.0.29-1+b2
>  amd64Zip module for PHP
> 
> Est-ce que vous auriez une piste ?
> 
> Merci d'avance.
> 
> David.

bonjour,

serait il possible de faire marche arrière en installant
"php7.0" 7.0.27-0+deb9u1 ?

merci

slt
bernard



Re: [OT] A vueltas con las caches L1 y L2

2018-07-03 Thread Angel Vicente
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El Mon, 2 Jul 2018 12:43:46 -0400
Juan Lavieri  escribió:
> Hola.
> 
> El 2/7/2018 a las 9:53 a.m., Alberto Luaces escribió:
> > Angel Vicente writes:
> >   
> >> me dice que las caches L1 y L2 están deshabilitadas, la cosa es
> >> que con lshw encuentro que existir, existen.  
> > 
> > Es prácticamente imposible que tu CPU no esté usando las cachés;
> > jamás he escuchado que se pudiesen deshabilitar,  
> 
> Disculpa pero, como punto de información te quiero mencionar que el
> BIOS de todas las máquinas antiguas tepermitía habilitarlas y
> deshabilitarlas a voluntad;  de hecho las tarjetas chinas baratas
> sustituían los chips de cache L2 y colocaban unos falsos y
> "trampeaban" el BIOS para hacer creer que estaba habilitada la L2
> cuando no era cierto.
> 
> Quizas el BIOS de esa máquina que se menciona tenga algo así;  lo que 
> comento, sucedía con MB para procesadores 386 y 486 (no se si ustedes 
> habían nacido cuando eso) :-).

Sí, alguna encontré, la llamábamos la caché de madera :-).
En este caso es un Core 2 Quad 8400 en un HP 6000 MT Pro y no he
encontrado en BIOS ninguna opción para manejar las caches.

> 
>   puesto que es una parte
> > crucial del sistema, especialmente las más cercanas como la L1 y la
> > L2.
> > 
> > Si envías el mensaje exacto en el que sale lo que dices, quizás
> > podamos interpretarlo.
> >   
> 
> Saludos
> 



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Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread tomas
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On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 08:19:44AM +0200, john doe wrote:

[...]

> You are correct in the case of an ADSL "router".
> 
> Sadly, in the case of my European ISP I'm stuck with what they give me!

There are people working on exactly that. One example:

  https://wiki.fsfe.org/Activities/CompulsoryRouters

[disclaimer: I support these folks]

So you could do worse than to direct your energy towards helping one of
those initiatives, instead of just being furious at "ISP" or "Europe".

If the politicians never hear from you, they'll ignore you :)

Cheers
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Re: [OT] A vueltas con las caches L1 y L2

2018-07-03 Thread Angel Vicente
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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El Mon, 02 Jul 2018 15:53:23 +0200
Alberto Luaces  escribió:
> Angel Vicente writes:
> 
> > me dice que las caches L1 y L2 están deshabilitadas, la cosa es que
> > con lshw encuentro que existir, existen.  
> 
> Es prácticamente imposible que tu CPU no esté usando las cachés; jamás
> he escuchado que se pudiesen deshabilitar, puesto que es una parte
> crucial del sistema, especialmente las más cercanas como la L1 y la
> L2.
> 
> Si envías el mensaje exacto en el que sale lo que dices, quizás
> podamos interpretarlo.
> 

Debajo pego el resultado de ejecutar dmidecode -t cache
Cache L3 no tiene, es un Core 2 Quad Q8400

Getting SMBIOS data from sysfs.
SMBIOS 2.6 present.

Handle 0x0006, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L1 Cache
Configuration: Disabled, Not Socketed, Level 1
Operational Mode: Write Through
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 256 kB
Maximum Size: 256 kB
Supported SRAM Types:
Burst
Installed SRAM Type: Burst
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Parity
System Type: Data
Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0007, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: L2 Cache
Configuration: Disabled, Not Socketed, Level 2
Operational Mode: Write Back
Location: Internal
Installed Size: 4096 kB
Maximum Size: 4096 kB
Supported SRAM Types:
Burst
Installed SRAM Type: Burst
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Single-bit ECC
System Type: Unified
Associativity: 8-way Set-associative

Handle 0x0008, DMI type 7, 19 bytes
Cache Information
Socket Designation: none
Configuration: Disabled, Not Socketed, Level 3
Operational Mode: Unknown
Location: Unknown
Installed Size: 0 kB
Maximum Size: 0 kB
Supported SRAM Types:
Unknown
Installed SRAM Type: Unknown
Speed: Unknown
Error Correction Type: Unknown
System Type: Unknown
Associativity: Unknown


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NextCloud, PHP et CURL

2018-07-03 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Comme cela fait plusieurs jours que je cherche sans résultat, je tente ma 
chance sur la liste ;-)

Donc, j'ai installé NextCloud via un reporitoy externe 
(http://apt.jurisic.org/debian/).
Celle-ci s'est bien passé et le logiciel est "presque" opérationnel.

Toutefois, quand je le lance, j'ai le message d'erreur suivant :
Le module PHP cURL n’est pas installé.
Veuillez demander à votre administrateur d’installer le module.
Les modules PHP ont été installés mais sont toujours indiqués comme manquants ?
Veuillez demander à votre administrateur serveur de redémarrer le serveur web.

Bien évidemment, le module est installé, etc.
A priori, NextCloud utilise PHP 7.0 (j'ai aussi du 7.2 installé).
root@server:~# dpkg -l | grep php7.0
ii  libapache2-mod-php7.0   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (Apache 2 module)
ii  php7.0  7.0.29-1 all  
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage)
ii  php7.0-cgi  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (CGI binary)
ii  php7.0-cli  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
command-line interpreter for the PHP scripting language
ii  php7.0-common   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
documentation, examples and common module for PHP
ii  php7.0-curl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
CURL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-gd   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
GD module for PHP
ii  php7.0-intl 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Internationalisation module for PHP
ii  php7.0-json 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
JSON module for PHP
ii  php7.0-ldap 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
LDAP module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mbstring 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
MBSTRING module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mcrypt   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
libmcrypt module for PHP
ii  php7.0-mysql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
MySQL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-opcache  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Zend OpCache module for PHP
ii  php7.0-pgsql7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
PostgreSQL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-pspell   7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
pspell module for PHP
ii  php7.0-readline 7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
readline module for PHP
rc  php7.0-soap 7.0.4-4  amd64
SOAP module for PHP
ii  php7.0-sqlite3  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
SQLite3 module for PHP
ii  php7.0-xml  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
DOM, SimpleXML, WDDX, XML, and XSL module for PHP
ii  php7.0-zip  7.0.29-1+b2  amd64
Zip module for PHP

Est-ce que vous auriez une piste ?

Merci d'avance.

David.



Re: Strange LAN IP Address.

2018-07-03 Thread john doe

On 7/3/2018 2:42 AM, David Wright wrote:

On Mon 02 Jul 2018 at 21:58:15 (+0200), john doe wrote:

On 7/2/2018 9:17 PM, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

I have my principle Debian Stretch platform on the LAN in our
home. Two towers (both Linux platforms) and a HP Printer have
wired connections, my Win 10 Laptop and two Android smartphones
use WiFi connections.

This morning when I

When I tried using WinSCP on the Laptop to transfer a file from
the principle Linux platform the connection attempt failed!

When I ran ifconfig on the Linux platform it showed the unet
connection to be 162.237.98.238!!?  The LAN modem employs DCHP
set with allowed IP range as 192.168.1.64 through 192.168.1.253,
which was set by the T installer when we switched to a fiber
optic network.

Further examination of the modem settings showed IP Passthrough
status as on (Public IP Address), which was, in fact the IP.

I spent 40 minutes, on hold for 28 of those minutes, with an AT
UVVerse technical () person without hearing any reasons why
the IP was what it was.

Note the tense at the end of the above sentence, because
subsequent rebooting the modem restored the IP address to the
correct DHCP range. I suppose the moral of this - first reboot the
modem.

The question that I have, however, is how did this happen in the
first place? Or is the reason lost in the black hole of the
Internet?

Is this indicative of a hardware problem?



Could be hardware failure or could also be an software bug!

While searching for that IP I get:

https://www.ipligence.com/ip-address?ip=162.237.98.238

is this your public IP (IP assigned by your ISP)?


Looks like it. Here's the first hop of the OP's posting:

  Received: from 162-237-98-238.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net (EHLO
  [192.168.1.123]) ([162.237.98.238]) by smtp431.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
  (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID
  665b52fd3833c7e5d4ced5690502aed7 for ;
  Mon, 02 Jul 2018 19:17:29 + (UTC)


It could be that the ISP router went into "bridge mode" (router
function was disabled).


Which is rather worrying as you are exposed to the Internet
without any security.


Most of the time ISP router are not the best and I would suggest to
anyone to not reley on that router for firewalling capability
especially when ISPs can remotely control that thing!

In the case of my ISP I need to reboot my ISP router every week or
so to get stable services.


Sounds like you have a combined modem/router. My advice would be to
ditch it and get separate units. This means you can, if you like, use
the modem your line provider supplies (which means they can't blame
you for any incompatibilities with the wire), but you have full
control over the router. (It also gives you more flexibility with
their siting.)

It even means you can independently test the modem safely, by booting
a live system from a stick and connecting directly to the modem port.
(You will then see your address as 162.237.98.238 for the right reason.)

My own experience is that an ADSL modem should be left running 24/7 as
that prevents it having to retrain. OTOH there's no harm in rebooting
a router whenever you think it might be misbehaving.



You are correct in the case of an ADSL "router".

Sadly, in the case of my European ISP I'm stuck with what they give me!
I must say that I've never investigated how I could use my own cable 
modem and understand the kind of restriction they're using to prevent me 
from doing that!!! :)



An alternative to DDWRT is OpenWrt.

If your willing to  fealed that security gap it clearly make sence to 
check the list of compatible device (OpenWrt DDWrt ...) so if you don't 
like the stock firmware you can change it!



A fanless server solution could be:
https://www.pcengines.ch/

On that box yu could install pfsense, Debian, IPFire...

If your stuck with your ISP "router" you could try:
- Add your own router in the DMZ (you only use the ISP router for the 
modem part)
- Set your ISP modem in "bridge mode" or what ever it's called to turn 
everything off but the modem



The idea here is to have one way or an other your own "firewall" behind 
a modem.


--
John Doe