Re: Problema com dependências de pacotes

[Fred Maranhão]

o que acontece quando você tenta remover o php7.2-curl?

apt purge php7.2-curl


Le mer. 31 oct. 2018 à 15:04, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha
 a écrit :
>
> Tudo Rodolfo, removi e tentei instalar:
> apache2 e as versões de PHP (5.6, 7.0 e 7.1) que estavam instaladas.
>
> Comandos que utilizei: apt-get remove --purge / apt-get purge /
> apt-get remove / apt-get autoremove / apt-get install -f / dpkg
> --configure -a e etc. Vou tentar essa do dpkg que me sugere. Posto
> aqui!
>
>
> Obrigado pela ajuda.
> Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 14:29, Rodolfo  escreveu:
> >
> > "Já desinstalei com purge e ao instalar novamente"
> >
> > O que exatamente você desinstalou com purge e o que exatamente você tentou 
> > instalar novamente?
> >
> > Rode o comando # dpkg -C para verificar se existem pacotes quebrados.
> >
> > Uma boa tentativa é você rodar a instalação/desinstalação com aptitude, o 
> > gerenciamento dele é mais robusto.
> >
> > Abs.
> >
> > Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 12:08, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha 
> >  escreveu:
> >>
> >> Meus amigos, boa tarde!
> >>
> >> recorro a vocês para que me ajudem com esse problema. Um colega
> >> acessou o servidor em produção e instalou pacotes que criaram um
> >> problemão pra mim.  Agora tento resolver as dependências e não estou
> >> conseguindo. Veja o erro:
> >>
> >> ~# apt-get -f install
> >> Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
> >> Construindo árvore de dependências
> >> Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
> >> 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos
> >> e 0 não atualizados.
> >> 26 pacotes não totalmente instalados ou removidos.
> >> Depois desta operação, 0 B adicionais de espaço em disco serão usados.
> >> Configurando php7.2-common 
> >> (7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-curl:
> >> php7.2-curl depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-curl (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-curl:
> >> php-curl depende de php7.2-curl; porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-curl não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-curl (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mbstring:
> >> php7.2-mbstring depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mbstring (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-bz2:
> >> php7.2-bz2 depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-bz2 (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-mbstring:
> >> php-mbstring depende de php7.2-mbstring; porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-mbstring não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-mbstring (--configure):
> >>
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >>
> >> Configurando php5.6-gd (5.6.38-2+0~20181015120829.6+stretch~1.gbp567807) 
> >> ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php5.6-gd (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> Configurando php7.0-common 
> >> (7.0.32-2+0~20181015120817.7+stretch~1.gbpa6b8cf) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> Configurando dbconfig-common (2.0.8) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de dbconfig-mysql:
> >> dbconfig-mysql depende de dbconfig-common (= 2.0.8); porém:
> >> Pacote dbconfig-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-mysql (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mysql:
> >> php7.2-mysql depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mysql (--configure):
> >> problemas de 

Re: Migrating Debian installation to a new motherboard

[Michael Stone]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 11:48:47PM +0100, local10 wrote:

31. Oct 2018 18:05 by d...@randomstring.org:


   Can you show us the output of
   ip -l

   and

   ip -r

   ?

   -dsr-



Both "ip -l" and "ip -r" return the same output  as "ip --help". Something is
missing, pwrhaps? Thanks


There shouldn't be a -

"ip a" is probabably more interesting than ip l.

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Re: startup prob

[Glenn English]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:27 PM Cousin Stanley  wrote:

>   $ sudo raspi-config
>
> select 
>
>   interface
>
> ssh

Worked perfectly. Thank you. And from me: Duh...

>   I don't remember if a reboot is required 

I'm not sure because I didn't try both ways, but it asked if I want to
reboot. It worked when I said 'Yes'.

-- 
Glenn English

Re: Migrating Debian installation to a new motherboard

[local10]

31. Oct 2018 18:05 by d...@randomstring.org :

>
> Can you show us the output of 
> ip -l
>
> and 
>
> ip -r
>
> ?
>
> -dsr-







Both "ip -l" and "ip -r" return the same output  as "ip --help". Something is 
missing, pwrhaps? Thanks

Re: startup prob

[Cousin Stanley]

Glenn English wrote:

> 
> Anyone know the incantation to make the s word start ssh
> 

  You might try  

  $ sudo raspi-config

select  
  
  interface

ssh


  I don't remember if a reboot is required 
  
  

-- 
Stanley C. Kitching
Human Being
Phoenix, Arizona

Re: Migrating Debian installation to a new motherboard

[Dan Ritter]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:10:06PM +0100, local10 wrote:
> >
> > How did you reconfigure the MAC address after the migration? I'm gettig 
> > "network is unreachable " even for local IPs so I guess I'll need to do 
> > that too. Thanks
> >
> 
> 1. I'm runnig Buster
> 
> 2. Motherboard NIC is Realtec RTL8111
> 
> 3. Dont have any files in /etc/udev/rules.d/

Can you show us the output of 
ip -l

and 

ip -r

?

-dsr-

Re: startup prob

[mick crane]

On 2018-10-31 20:33, Brian wrote:

On Wed 31 Oct 2018 at 18:21:54 +, Glenn English wrote:


stretch, RPi

Just installed stretch on an RPi. SSH doesn't start on boot. No
problem with postfix, apache, proftp, bind, etc, as far as I know.


I would probably install again and choose *only* the ssh task. It's
10 minutes of my time.

On first boot I would

  systemctl status ssh.service

and go from there.

Of course, you haven't installed stretch but have installed stretch
plus a load of other things. It shouldn't make any difference but its
instructive to get back to the bare minimum.


there's 2 components the ssh server and the ssh client
don't think that ssh server is installed by default.
so that would be the first thing.

mick


--
Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: startup prob

[Brian]

On Wed 31 Oct 2018 at 18:21:54 +, Glenn English wrote:

> stretch, RPi
> 
> Just installed stretch on an RPi. SSH doesn't start on boot. No
> problem with postfix, apache, proftp, bind, etc, as far as I know.

I would probably install again and choose *only* the ssh task. It's
10 minutes of my time.

On first boot I would

  systemctl status ssh.service

and go from there.

Of course, you haven't installed stretch but have installed stretch
plus a load of other things. It shouldn't make any difference but its
instructive to get back to the bare minimum.

-- 
Brian.

Re: Migrating Debian installation to a new motherboard

[local10]

31. Oct 2018 12:38 by loca...@tutanota.com :


> 
>> Oct 18, 2018, 6:42 PM by >> mrma...@earthlink.net 
>> >> :
>>
 By keeping the old HD, there could be 
 little to do but reconfigure networking for the change in MAC address, if 
 the NIC is a 
 motherboard component
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> How did you reconfigure the MAC address after the migration? I'm gettig 
> "network is unreachable " even for local IPs so I guess I'll need to do that 
> too. Thanks
>







More info:

1. I'm runnig Buster

2. Motherboard NIC is Realtec RTL8111

3. Dont have any files in /etc/udev/rules.d/




Thanks

Re: www-data

[mick crane]

On 2018-10-28 23:57, Gene Heskett wrote:

I don't think thats how it works. UID/GID as www-data is just part of 
the

sandbox apache2 and its ilk play in. In fact after I've equipt apach2
with some new toy, the last thing I do as root is a chown -R
www-data:www-data any directory apache2 can access in going about its
normal business.


That's what I've always done but the perceived wisdom is
directories 750
files 640
owned root
group www-data

with the odd exception.

mick

--
Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: startup prob

[mick crane]

On 2018-10-31 18:21, Glenn English wrote:
 find anything about where to put the data.


Anyone know the incantation to make the s word start ssh? A link to
clear dox on the innards of s.*d would probably be enough. So would a
quick howto.


"systemctl enable sshd"

isn't it ?

mick
--
Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: startup prob

[john doe]

On 10/31/2018 7:21 PM, Glenn English wrote:
> stretch, RPi
> 
> Just installed stretch on an RPi. SSH doesn't start on boot. No
> problem with postfix, apache, proftp, bind, etc, as far as I know.
> 
> I tried to have it start at boot via Webmin; systemd said it wouldn't
> do that without a command. It didn't say what kind of command it
> wanted or where to put it, but there are several commands on the
> system.
> 
> I went to /etc/init.d. There's an ssh script there, and systemd
> started the server when I ran the script.
> 
> I went to /etc/default, and the script there said it was sourced into
> an init.d script.
> 
> The man page talks a lot about how to start things, but I couldn't
> find anything about where to put the data.
> 
> Anyone know the incantation to make the s word start ssh? A link to
> clear dox on the innards of s.*d would probably be enough. So would a
> quick howto.
> 

What do you get with the following command:

$ systemctl status ssh

-- 
John Doe

Re: startup prob

[Reco]

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 06:21:54PM +, Glenn English wrote:
> stretch, RPi

Is it stretch or Raspbian stretch?


> Just installed stretch on an RPi. SSH doesn't start on boot. No
> problem with postfix, apache, proftp, bind, etc, as far as I know.

So it's Raspbian stretch.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/remote-access/ssh/

Reco

startup prob

[Glenn English]

stretch, RPi

Just installed stretch on an RPi. SSH doesn't start on boot. No
problem with postfix, apache, proftp, bind, etc, as far as I know.

I tried to have it start at boot via Webmin; systemd said it wouldn't
do that without a command. It didn't say what kind of command it
wanted or where to put it, but there are several commands on the
system.

I went to /etc/init.d. There's an ssh script there, and systemd
started the server when I ran the script.

I went to /etc/default, and the script there said it was sourced into
an init.d script.

The man page talks a lot about how to start things, but I couldn't
find anything about where to put the data.

Anyone know the incantation to make the s word start ssh? A link to
clear dox on the innards of s.*d would probably be enough. So would a
quick howto.

-- 
Glenn English

Re: Problema com dependências de pacotes

[Rodolfo]

Não esquece de usar o aptitude ao invés de apt-get.

Abs.

Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 14:04, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha <
leonardo...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Tudo Rodolfo, removi e tentei instalar:
> apache2 e as versões de PHP (5.6, 7.0 e 7.1) que estavam instaladas.
>
> Comandos que utilizei: apt-get remove --purge / apt-get purge /
> apt-get remove / apt-get autoremove / apt-get install -f / dpkg
> --configure -a e etc. Vou tentar essa do dpkg que me sugere. Posto
> aqui!
>
>
> Obrigado pela ajuda.
> Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 14:29, Rodolfo  escreveu:
> >
> > "Já desinstalei com purge e ao instalar novamente"
> >
> > O que exatamente você desinstalou com purge e o que exatamente você
> tentou instalar novamente?
> >
> > Rode o comando # dpkg -C para verificar se existem pacotes quebrados.
> >
> > Uma boa tentativa é você rodar a instalação/desinstalação com aptitude,
> o gerenciamento dele é mais robusto.
> >
> > Abs.
> >
> > Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 12:08, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha <
> leonardo...@gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>
> >> Meus amigos, boa tarde!
> >>
> >> recorro a vocês para que me ajudem com esse problema. Um colega
> >> acessou o servidor em produção e instalou pacotes que criaram um
> >> problemão pra mim.  Agora tento resolver as dependências e não estou
> >> conseguindo. Veja o erro:
> >>
> >> ~# apt-get -f install
> >> Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
> >> Construindo árvore de dependências
> >> Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
> >> 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos
> >> e 0 não atualizados.
> >> 26 pacotes não totalmente instalados ou removidos.
> >> Depois desta operação, 0 B adicionais de espaço em disco serão usados.
> >> Configurando php7.2-common
> (7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-curl:
> >> php7.2-curl depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-curl (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-curl:
> >> php-curl depende de php7.2-curl; porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-curl não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-curl (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de
> php7.2-mbstring:
> >> php7.2-mbstring depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mbstring (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-bz2:
> >> php7.2-bz2 depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-bz2 (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-mbstring:
> >> php-mbstring depende de php7.2-mbstring; porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-mbstring não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-mbstring (--configure):
> >>
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >>
> >> Configurando php5.6-gd
> (5.6.38-2+0~20181015120829.6+stretch~1.gbp567807) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php5.6-gd (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> Configurando php7.0-common
> (7.0.32-2+0~20181015120817.7+stretch~1.gbpa6b8cf) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> Configurando dbconfig-common (2.0.8) ...
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-common (--configure):
> >> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> >> saída de erro 10
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de
> dbconfig-mysql:
> >> dbconfig-mysql depende de dbconfig-common (= 2.0.8); porém:
> >> Pacote dbconfig-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-mysql (--configure):
> >> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> >> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mysql:
> >> php7.2-mysql depende de php7.2-common (=
> >> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> >> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> >> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mysql (--configure):
> >> 

Re: Problema com dependências de pacotes

[Leonardo S. S. da Rocha]

Tudo Rodolfo, removi e tentei instalar:
apache2 e as versões de PHP (5.6, 7.0 e 7.1) que estavam instaladas.

Comandos que utilizei: apt-get remove --purge / apt-get purge /
apt-get remove / apt-get autoremove / apt-get install -f / dpkg
--configure -a e etc. Vou tentar essa do dpkg que me sugere. Posto
aqui!


Obrigado pela ajuda.
Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 14:29, Rodolfo  escreveu:
>
> "Já desinstalei com purge e ao instalar novamente"
>
> O que exatamente você desinstalou com purge e o que exatamente você tentou 
> instalar novamente?
>
> Rode o comando # dpkg -C para verificar se existem pacotes quebrados.
>
> Uma boa tentativa é você rodar a instalação/desinstalação com aptitude, o 
> gerenciamento dele é mais robusto.
>
> Abs.
>
> Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 12:08, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha 
>  escreveu:
>>
>> Meus amigos, boa tarde!
>>
>> recorro a vocês para que me ajudem com esse problema. Um colega
>> acessou o servidor em produção e instalou pacotes que criaram um
>> problemão pra mim.  Agora tento resolver as dependências e não estou
>> conseguindo. Veja o erro:
>>
>> ~# apt-get -f install
>> Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
>> Construindo árvore de dependências
>> Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
>> 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos
>> e 0 não atualizados.
>> 26 pacotes não totalmente instalados ou removidos.
>> Depois desta operação, 0 B adicionais de espaço em disco serão usados.
>> Configurando php7.2-common (7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0) 
>> ...
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-common (--configure):
>> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
>> saída de erro 10
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-curl:
>> php7.2-curl depende de php7.2-common (=
>> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
>> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-curl (--configure):
>> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-curl:
>> php-curl depende de php7.2-curl; porém:
>> Pacote php7.2-curl não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-curl (--configure):
>> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mbstring:
>> php7.2-mbstring depende de php7.2-common (=
>> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
>> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mbstring (--configure):
>> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-bz2:
>> php7.2-bz2 depende de php7.2-common (=
>> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
>> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-bz2 (--configure):
>> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-mbstring:
>> php-mbstring depende de php7.2-mbstring; porém:
>> Pacote php7.2-mbstring não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-mbstring (--configure):
>>
>> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>>
>> Configurando php5.6-gd (5.6.38-2+0~20181015120829.6+stretch~1.gbp567807) ...
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php5.6-gd (--configure):
>> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
>> saída de erro 10
>> Configurando php7.0-common (7.0.32-2+0~20181015120817.7+stretch~1.gbpa6b8cf) 
>> ...
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-common (--configure):
>> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
>> saída de erro 10
>> Configurando dbconfig-common (2.0.8) ...
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-common (--configure):
>> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
>> saída de erro 10
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de dbconfig-mysql:
>> dbconfig-mysql depende de dbconfig-common (= 2.0.8); porém:
>> Pacote dbconfig-common não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-mysql (--configure):
>> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mysql:
>> php7.2-mysql depende de php7.2-common (=
>> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
>> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mysql (--configure):
>> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-xml:
>> php7.2-xml depende de php7.2-common (=
>> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
>> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
>> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-xml (--configure):
>> problemas de dependência - 

Re: Problema com dependências de pacotes

[Rodolfo]

"Já desinstalei com purge e ao instalar novamente"

O que exatamente você desinstalou com purge e o que exatamente você tentou
instalar novamente?

Rode o comando # dpkg -C para verificar se existem pacotes quebrados.

Uma boa tentativa é você rodar a instalação/desinstalação com aptitude, o
gerenciamento dele é mais robusto.

Abs.

Em qua, 31 de out de 2018 às 12:08, Leonardo S. S. da Rocha <
leonardo...@gmail.com> escreveu:

> Meus amigos, boa tarde!
>
> recorro a vocês para que me ajudem com esse problema. Um colega
> acessou o servidor em produção e instalou pacotes que criaram um
> problemão pra mim.  Agora tento resolver as dependências e não estou
> conseguindo. Veja o erro:
>
> ~# apt-get -f install
> Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
> Construindo árvore de dependências
> Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
> 0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos
> e 0 não atualizados.
> 26 pacotes não totalmente instalados ou removidos.
> Depois desta operação, 0 B adicionais de espaço em disco serão usados.
> Configurando php7.2-common
> (7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0) ...
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-common (--configure):
> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> saída de erro 10
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-curl:
> php7.2-curl depende de php7.2-common (=
> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-curl (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-curl:
> php-curl depende de php7.2-curl; porém:
> Pacote php7.2-curl não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-curl (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mbstring:
> php7.2-mbstring depende de php7.2-common (=
> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mbstring (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-bz2:
> php7.2-bz2 depende de php7.2-common (=
> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-bz2 (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-mbstring:
> php-mbstring depende de php7.2-mbstring; porém:
> Pacote php7.2-mbstring não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-mbstring (--configure):
>
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
>
> Configurando php5.6-gd (5.6.38-2+0~20181015120829.6+stretch~1.gbp567807)
> ...
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php5.6-gd (--configure):
> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> saída de erro 10
> Configurando php7.0-common
> (7.0.32-2+0~20181015120817.7+stretch~1.gbpa6b8cf) ...
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-common (--configure):
> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> saída de erro 10
> Configurando dbconfig-common (2.0.8) ...
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-common (--configure):
> sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
> saída de erro 10
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de dbconfig-mysql:
> dbconfig-mysql depende de dbconfig-common (= 2.0.8); porém:
> Pacote dbconfig-common não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-mysql (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mysql:
> php7.2-mysql depende de php7.2-common (=
> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mysql (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-xml:
> php7.2-xml depende de php7.2-common (=
> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-xml (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-zip:
> php7.2-zip depende de php7.2-common (=
> 7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
> Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
> dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-zip (--configure):
> problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
> dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-readline:
> php7.0-readline depende de 

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Curt]

On 2018-10-31, rhkra...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
>> >> written by the contents of a man page in pure text format.
>> > 
>> > Just to (maybe?) help with the proper focus, was this a human error or
>> > something that seemed to happen without human intervention?
>> 
>> As I replied to Reco, "Cannot reproduce detailed PEBKAC ;< "
>
> Ok, then, it doesn't seem to indicate a disk problem (as some seemed to 
> suspect).
>

Yeah, I didn't get that hard drive failure part either but thought it
was a question of superior knowledge and cleverness on the part of Mr.
R.

The OP probably should have started by saying, "I don't know how, but I
fucked up and overwrote a binary executable with a man page," and then
we all could've had a good laugh. At least he's reading those man pages.
I do note, however, he didn't say *info* page. 

But I don't have a firm grasp of the issues involved here (if there are
any whatsoever), so I'll bow out (once again).

-- 
When you have fever you are heavy and light, you are small and swollen, you
climb endlessly a ladder which turns like a wheel. 
--Jean Rhys, Voyage in the Dark

Re: Migrating Debian installation to a new motherboard

[local10]

> Oct 18, 2018, 6:42 PM by > mrma...@earthlink.net 
> > :
>
>>> By keeping the old HD, there could be 
>>> little to do but reconfigure networking for the change in MAC address, if 
>>> the NIC is a 
>>> motherboard component







How did you reconfigure the MAC address after the migration? I'm gettig 
"network is unreachable " even for local IPs so I guess I'll need to do that 
too. Thanks

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/31/2018 10:57 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:45:15 AM Richard Owlett wrote:

On 10/31/2018 10:31 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:14:40 AM Richard Owlett wrote:

Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.

Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
written by the contents of a man page in pure text format.


Just to (maybe?) help with the proper focus, was this a human error or
something that seemed to happen without human intervention?


As I replied to Reco, "Cannot reproduce detailed PEBKAC ;< "


Ok, then, it doesn't seem to indicate a disk problem (as some seemed to
suspect).



Reco's comment that it could be a "(mis)feature" and Greg's response led 
me to investigate further. I'm personally convinced there is a bug 
having some aspects of being a "corner case".


I think I can create some repeatable test cases. It'll take some time.
I may not be a computer geek, but decades in engineering and/or customer 
support can be enlightening.

Problema com dependências de pacotes

[Leonardo S. S. da Rocha]

Meus amigos, boa tarde!

recorro a vocês para que me ajudem com esse problema. Um colega
acessou o servidor em produção e instalou pacotes que criaram um
problemão pra mim.  Agora tento resolver as dependências e não estou
conseguindo. Veja o erro:

~# apt-get -f install
Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
Construindo árvore de dependências
Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
0 pacotes atualizados, 0 pacotes novos instalados, 0 a serem removidos
e 0 não atualizados.
26 pacotes não totalmente instalados ou removidos.
Depois desta operação, 0 B adicionais de espaço em disco serão usados.
Configurando php7.2-common (7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0) ...
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-common (--configure):
sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
saída de erro 10
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-curl:
php7.2-curl depende de php7.2-common (=
7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-curl (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-curl:
php-curl depende de php7.2-curl; porém:
Pacote php7.2-curl não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-curl (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mbstring:
php7.2-mbstring depende de php7.2-common (=
7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mbstring (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-bz2:
php7.2-bz2 depende de php7.2-common (=
7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-bz2 (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-mbstring:
php-mbstring depende de php7.2-mbstring; porém:
Pacote php7.2-mbstring não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-mbstring (--configure):

problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado

Configurando php5.6-gd (5.6.38-2+0~20181015120829.6+stretch~1.gbp567807) ...
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php5.6-gd (--configure):
sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
saída de erro 10
Configurando php7.0-common (7.0.32-2+0~20181015120817.7+stretch~1.gbpa6b8cf) ...
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-common (--configure):
sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
saída de erro 10
Configurando dbconfig-common (2.0.8) ...
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-common (--configure):
sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de
saída de erro 10
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de dbconfig-mysql:
dbconfig-mysql depende de dbconfig-common (= 2.0.8); porém:
Pacote dbconfig-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote dbconfig-mysql (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-mysql:
php7.2-mysql depende de php7.2-common (=
7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-mysql (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-xml:
php7.2-xml depende de php7.2-common (=
7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-xml (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.2-zip:
php7.2-zip depende de php7.2-common (=
7.2.11-2+0~20181015120801.9+stretch~1.gbp8105e0); porém:
Pacote php7.2-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.2-zip (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php7.0-readline:
php7.0-readline depende de php7.0-common (=
7.0.32-2+0~20181015120817.7+stretch~1.gbpa6b8cf); porém:
Pacote php7.0-common não está configurado ainda.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php7.0-readline (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: problemas com dependências impedem a configuração de php-php-gettext:
php-php-gettext depende de php-mbstring; porém:
Pacote php-mbstring não está configurado ainda.
Pacote php7.2-mbstring, o qual fornece php-mbstring ainda não está configurado.
dpkg: erro ao processar o pacote php-php-gettext (--configure):
problemas de dependência - deixando desconfigurado
dpkg: 

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:45:15 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/31/2018 10:31 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:14:40 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> >> Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
> >> 
> >> Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
> >> written by the contents of a man page in pure text format.
> > 
> > Just to (maybe?) help with the proper focus, was this a human error or
> > something that seemed to happen without human intervention?
> 
> As I replied to Reco, "Cannot reproduce detailed PEBKAC ;< "

Ok, then, it doesn't seem to indicate a disk problem (as some seemed to 
suspect).

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/31/2018 10:31 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:14:40 AM Richard Owlett wrote:

Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.

Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
written by the contents of a man page in pure text format.


Just to (maybe?) help with the proper focus, was this a human error or
something that seemed to happen without human intervention?


As I replied to Reco, "Cannot reproduce detailed PEBKAC ;< "





For unknown
reason, the resulting file was tagged as executable.

A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
Is this a bug or a feature?
If a feature, why?

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[rhkramer]

On Wednesday, October 31, 2018 10:14:40 AM Richard Owlett wrote:
> Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
> 
> Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
> written by the contents of a man page in pure text format. 

Just to (maybe?) help with the proper focus, was this a human error or 
something that seemed to happen without human intervention?


> For unknown
> reason, the resulting file was tagged as executable.
> 
> A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
> When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
> Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
> Is this a bug or a feature?
> If a feature, why?

Re: Hibernate in Testing

[Carl Fink]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 02:18:52PM +, Piotr Martyniuk wrote:
> On 2018-10-08, Hans  wrote:
> > Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2018, 04:00:50 CEST schrieb Carl Fink:
> > Hibernate is not working any more since over a year. They say, this cannot 
> > be 
> > fixed and will not be fixed, due it is not possible because of the wide 
> > differences in the hardware.
> >
> > Besides: same here, hibernates works, but restore let the system crash. You 
> > are not alone. :)
> 
> It was working in Jessie. They broke in Stretch. Hardware did not
> change. Lame excuses.  :(

However, I tried it Saturday and it's working again, for some reason.
-- 
Carl Fink   nitpick...@nitpicking.com 

Read John Grant's book, Corrupted Science: http://a.co/9UsUoGu 
Dedicated to ... Carl Fink!

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/31/2018 09:27 AM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:14:40AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.

Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over written 
by the contents of a man page in pure text format. For unknown reason, the
resulting file was tagged as executable.


Replace your HDD today, don't give it another chance to corrupt your
data.



Cannot reproduce detailed PEBKAC ;<




A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
Is this a bug or a feature?
If a feature, why?


A (mis)feature. Any executable text file without defined shebang is a
shell script. In this case - a syntactically invalid shell script.
So it can be executed, but the child shell will exit immediately.


I think I understand.
Thank you.

Re: No sound in debian stretch after install.

[john doe]

On 10/30/2018 8:33 PM, ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> I brought this up a few years ago, but never got things working at least in
> stretch.  When installing using either a dvd or net installer, speech is
> fine, but once the system is installed, there is no sound.  I tried

What system/desktop environment did you install?

> alsamixer thinking that the valume need to be razed, but nothing infact
> gnome does not even get the pop sound when razing the sound.  I am guessing
> that the audio may be muted but have no way to check.  Is there a way to fix
> this without sited help.  I checked the wiki, but nothing current has turned
> up.  Anyone others ussers had this problem?  Debian testing works fine..  I
> have tried other iso installers such as 9.1 with the same result.  HTH.
> BTW, I am using a virtual machine if this matters.  
> 

I don't believe so, it is working fine here using the "debian desktop
environment".

Which vm are you using?

-- 
John Doe

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 31 October 2018 10:39:17 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Wednesday 31 October 2018 10:31:40 Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:29:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > On 10/31/2018 09:18 AM, Curt wrote:
> > > > On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> > > > > Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
> > > > >
> > > > > Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable
> > > > > was over written by the contents of a man page in pure text
> > > > > format. For unknown reason, the resulting file was tagged as
> > > > > executable.
> > > >
> > > > I want to predict immediately that this can of worms will
> > > > produce the longest thread in the history of debian user.
>
> And will follow that rule about opening a can of worms will also
> immediately at least double the size of the can to put them back into.

Correction inserted above, this keyboard is a great keyboard around messy 
machinery, but it silently shifts from insert to overwrite mode entirely 
too easily with my short, somewhat fat fingers trying to type rapidly on 
it. So adjacent keys get pushed which apparently interpreted as the 
magic twanger that controls that particular function.

> > > ONLY if members of this group can't or wont read.
> > > I believe I rigorously complied with
> > > [http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
> >
> > 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' output would be nice, but I won't insist on
> > it.

I will. Show us Richard.

> > Reco



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Curt]

On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> On 10/31/2018 09:18 AM, Curt wrote:
>> On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:
>>> Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
>>>
>>> Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
>>> written by the contents of a man page in pure text format. For unknown
>>> reason, the resulting file was tagged as executable.
>> 
>> I want to predict immediately that this can of worms will produce the
>> longest thread in the history of debian user.
>
> ONLY if members of this group can't or wont read.
> I believe I rigorously complied with
> [http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
>

I guess I stumbled immediately upon "non-reproducible sequence of
events." Then I kind of wondered, like, well, can those events be
briefly described, at least? Or maybe 'non-reproducible' means you just
don't know what the hell happened? 

But Reco extracted marrow from your post, and I will gracefully bow
out now and let you boys have at it without further ado.

>> 
>>> A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
>>> When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
>>> Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
>>> Is this a bug or a feature?
>>> If a feature, why?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> 
>
>
>


-- 
When you have fever you are heavy and light, you are small and swollen, you
climb endlessly a ladder which turns like a wheel. 
--Jean Rhys, Voyage in the Dark

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 05:27:58PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> A (mis)feature. Any executable text file without defined shebang is a
> shell script.

Not quite.  An attempt to execute a file that doesn't have a valid magic
number in the first few bytes triggers an ENOEXEC from the execve(2) call.
If this attempt was made by a C program, then that's that.  You handle
the error however you choose to handle it.

However, it the attempt to execute the file was done by a shell, then
the shell will typically catch the ENOEXEC and then make a second attempt.
The exact mechanism for this secondary attempt depends on the shell.
Bash reads the first hundred bytes or so looking for NUL bytes.   If it
sees a NUL byte, it decides the file is *not* a script, and you get
"Exec format error" printed on stderr.  If there are no NUL bytes, then
bash launches a child bash process to read the file as a script.

Other shells may launch a copy of themselves, or they may choose to
launch /bin/sh or sh instead, or they may print an error.  GNU's find
-exec launches sh, but I'm uncertain whether that's a GNUism, or a de
facto standard practice.

> In this case - a syntactically invalid shell script.
> So it can be executed, but the child shell will exit immediately.

If there's a syntax error, you'd expect to see a message.  It's possible
that the "script" simply does nothing (e.g. it runs "exit" or "exec true"
or something similar before any commands that would produce output or
errors).

There's really no way to be more precise without a copy of the file's
content for analysis, and some knowledge of how and in what environment
the OP attempted to execute it.  And we all know that these things will
not be provided.

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 31 October 2018 10:31:40 Reco wrote:

>   Hi.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:29:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 10/31/2018 09:18 AM, Curt wrote:
> > > On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> > > > Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
> > > >
> > > > Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable
> > > > was over written by the contents of a man page in pure text
> > > > format. For unknown reason, the resulting file was tagged as
> > > > executable.
> > >
> > > I want to predict immediately that this can of worms will produce
> > > the longest thread in the history of debian user.
> >
> > ONLY if members of this group can't or wont read.
> > I believe I rigorously complied with
> > [http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
>
> 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' output would be nice, but I won't insist on it.
>
How about this Richard, let us see what smartctl thinks about this drives 
health. So I'll insist on seeing it. Please post its output.

> Reco



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 31 October 2018 10:31:40 Reco wrote:

>   Hi.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:29:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > On 10/31/2018 09:18 AM, Curt wrote:
> > > On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> > > > Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
> > > >
> > > > Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable
> > > > was over written by the contents of a man page in pure text
> > > > format. For unknown reason, the resulting file was tagged as
> > > > executable.
> > >
> > > I want to predict immediately that this can of worms will produce
> > > the longest thread in the history of debian user.
> >
And will follow that rule about opening a can of worms will also 
immediately at least the size of the can to put them back into.

> > ONLY if members of this group can't or wont read.
> > I believe I rigorously complied with
> > [http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]
>
> 'smartctl -a /dev/sda' output would be nice, but I won't insist on it.
>
> Reco



-- 
Cheers, Gene Heskett
--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Genes Web page 

Re: Hibernate in Testing

[Piotr Martyniuk]

On 2018-10-08, Hans  wrote:
> Am Montag, 8. Oktober 2018, 04:00:50 CEST schrieb Carl Fink:
> Hibernate is not working any more since over a year. They say, this cannot be 
> fixed and will not be fixed, due it is not possible because of the wide 
> differences in the hardware.
>
> Besides: same here, hibernates works, but restore let the system crash. You 
> are not alone. :)

It was working in Jessie. They broke in Stretch. Hardware did not
change. Lame excuses.  :(

Regards,
Piotr

Re: (deb-cat) Programari Java amb Firefox 60

[Joan]

Per cert, el que no sé, perquè només us he llegit en diagonal allò dels
applets de java, és si aquests, per la nova versió de Firefox a Debian
estable, podrien incloure's via backports, per exemple... O potser fins
i tot s'instal·len manualment...

Fins ara,

Joan

El Wed, 31 Oct 2018 10:09:03 +0100
Jordi Mallach  va escriure:

> Hola,
> 
> El dt. 30 de 10 de 2018 a les 12:26 +0100, en/na Joan va escriure:
> > Però el que tu comentes, de congelar la versió de Firefox i si algú
> > vol
> > les novetats, tirar de backports, doncs també era una bona opció,
> > potser algo menys estable perquè obligues a obrir el sistema a
> > backports, que mai serà tant estable com sense... I la pega afegida,
> > potser, de que els mantenidors del paquet de Firefox a Debian
> > s'hagin de
> > currar les sol·lucions als forats de seguretat, sense aprofitar la
> > feina de Mozilla amb les ESR.  
> 
> Joan ha donat en el clau: durant un temps, l'equip de seguretat
> intentava fer backports, un a un, dels pedaços que resolien les
> vulnerabilitats, però això era com feina per a 2 persones a temps
> complet. Un navegador i els seus motors de renderització i de JS no
> són precisament el programari més simple que hi ha a l'arxiu de
> Debian. Senzillament no era possible. La única cosa raonable és
> seguir les versions ESR de Firefox, o directament no donar suport de
> seguretat als navegadores que s'inclouen amb Debian.
> 
> Si em donen a triar entre una versió insegura del programa que emprem
> tots més sovint i a totes hores o sacrificar els applets de Java, jo
> ho tinc clar.
> 



-- 
Joan Cervan i Andreu
http://personal.calbasi.net

"El meu paper no és transformar el món ni l'home sinó, potser, el de
ser útil, des del meu lloc, als pocs valors sense els quals un món no
val la pena viure'l" A. Camus

i pels que teniu fe:
"Déu no és la Veritat, la Veritat és Déu"
Gandhi

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Reco]

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:29:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/31/2018 09:18 AM, Curt wrote:
> > On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> > > Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
> > > 
> > > Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
> > > written by the contents of a man page in pure text format. For unknown
> > > reason, the resulting file was tagged as executable.
> > 
> > I want to predict immediately that this can of worms will produce the
> > longest thread in the history of debian user.
> 
> ONLY if members of this group can't or wont read.
> I believe I rigorously complied with
> [http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]

'smartctl -a /dev/sda' output would be nice, but I won't insist on it.

Reco

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Richard Owlett]

On 10/31/2018 09:18 AM, Curt wrote:

On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:

Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.

Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over
written by the contents of a man page in pure text format. For unknown
reason, the resulting file was tagged as executable.


I want to predict immediately that this can of worms will produce the
longest thread in the history of debian user.


ONLY if members of this group can't or wont read.
I believe I rigorously complied with
[http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html]





A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
Is this a bug or a feature?
If a feature, why?

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Reco]

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:14:40AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
> 
> Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over 
> written by the contents of a man page in pure text format. For unknown 
> reason, the
> resulting file was tagged as executable.

Replace your HDD today, don't give it another chance to corrupt your
data.


> A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
> When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
> Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
> Is this a bug or a feature?
> If a feature, why?

A (mis)feature. Any executable text file without defined shebang is a
shell script. In this case - a syntactically invalid shell script.
So it can be executed, but the child shell will exit immediately.

Reco

Re: Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Curt]

On 2018-10-31, Richard Owlett  wrote:
> Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.
>
> Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over 
> written by the contents of a man page in pure text format. For unknown 
> reason, the resulting file was tagged as executable.

I want to predict immediately that this can of worms will produce the
longest thread in the history of debian user.

> A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
> When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
> Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
> Is this a bug or a feature?
> If a feature, why?
>
>
>


-- 
When you have fever you are heavy and light, you are small and swollen, you
climb endlessly a ladder which turns like a wheel. 
--Jean Rhys, Voyage in the Dark

Strangeness when binary executable overwritten by text -- bug or feature?

[Richard Owlett]

Debian 9.1 with MATE installed from DVD set.

Due a non-reproducible sequence of events, a binary executable was over 
written by the contents of a man page in pure text format. For unknown 
reason, the resulting file was tagged as executable.


A custom MATE launcher pointed the corrupted file.
When the launcher icon was clicked there was no response whatsoever.
Including *NO ERROR MESSAGE*
Is this a bug or a feature?
If a feature, why?

Re: In een script kunnen zien dat een package kan worden geupdate

[Wouter Verhelst]

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 12:57:04PM +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote:
> Ik ben niet iemand van de automatische updates. Maar ik wil wel zo
> snel mogelijk weten wanneer er updates voor pakketten zijn. Daarom heb
> ik een script isUpgradable.sh waarin o.a. staat:
> apt update 2>>${_logfile} | grep --quiet upgraded && apt list --upgradable
> 
> De redirect van stderr naar een logfile is nodig omdat apt geen batch
> commando is en dus het volgende naar stderr stuurt:
> WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in 
> scripts.

Dus doe je "apt-get update" ipv "apt update". Die eerste heeft nl wél
een stabiele interface.

> Ik zou natuurlijk stderr naar stdout kunnen sturen, maar dan is het
> niet meer mogelijk om te kijken of er iets anders fout is gegaan.
> 
> Ik zou liever met een goed commando kijken of er pakketten zijn die
> moeten worden geupdate, maar ik heb niets kunnen vinden. Is er geen
> andere mogelijkheid, of kijk ik niet goed?

Probeer dit:

apt-get -qq --print-uris upgrade

--print-uris gaat alle dependency tracking etc doen, maar in plaats van
iets te downloaden krijg je een lijst met bestanden die zouden
gedownload worden als je "--print-uris" niet had meegegeven.

-qq zort ervoor dat de "lijnen met "Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen..."
etc niet worden weergegeven. Dat maakt het "interessant" voor cron,
zodat je een mail krijgt als er updates zijn, en niks als dat niet het
geval is.

Verder kan je automatic-upgrades ook zo configureren dat het niets
installeert, maar alleen een melding geeft als er iets te installeren
is. Hoe, geen idee ;-)

-- 
To the thief who stole my anti-depressants: I hope you're happy

  -- seen somewhere on the Internet on a photo of a billboard

Re: Help me Linux

[Reco]

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 09:41:48AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 04:38:53PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 01:30:12PM +, Curt wrote:
> > > On 2018-10-31, songbird  wrote:
> > > > P M wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hey, this is Piyush M.
> > > >> I am a computer science graduate from 2015.
> > > >
> > > >   you were ripped off if you paid for that and the
> > > > institution which gave you that degree should be
> > > > discredited.
> > > >
> > > 
> > > Are you familiar with the chemical properties of lemon juice and the
> > > latter's eventual interactions with CCTV technology when applied to the
> > > facial epidermis?
> 
> Someone decided that putting lemon juice on your face would render it
> unrecognizable to cameras.
> 
> http://awesci.com/the-astonishingly-funny-story-of-mr-mcarthur-wheeler/
> 
> It's in the original Dunning-Kruger paper.

Thanks. That's the debian-user's best quality - you learn something new
every day ;)

Reco

Re: Help me Linux

[Curt]

On 2018-10-31, Reco  wrote:
>   Hi.
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 01:30:12PM +, Curt wrote:
>> On 2018-10-31, songbird  wrote:
>> > P M wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hey, this is Piyush M.
>> >> I am a computer science graduate from 2015.
>> >
>> >   you were ripped off if you paid for that and the
>> > institution which gave you that degree should be
>> > discredited.
>> >
>> 
>> Are you familiar with the chemical properties of lemon juice and the
>> latter's eventual interactions with CCTV technology when applied to the
>> facial epidermis?
>
> Hereby politely requesting translation to plain English.

I thought maybe songbird was an alias for McArthur Wheeler* and that I
could kind of flush him out with a pointed question.

*Failed bank robber and inspiration for the Dunning–Kruger effect (which 
would normally have been called the McArthur Wheeler effect if Dunning
and Kruger hadn't suffered from it (i.e. the effect) themselves.

> Reco
>
>


-- 
When you have fever you are heavy and light, you are small and swollen, you
climb endlessly a ladder which turns like a wheel. 
--Jean Rhys, Voyage in the Dark

Re: Help me Linux

[Dan Ritter]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 04:38:53PM +0300, Reco wrote:
>   Hi.
> 
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 01:30:12PM +, Curt wrote:
> > On 2018-10-31, songbird  wrote:
> > > P M wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hey, this is Piyush M.
> > >> I am a computer science graduate from 2015.
> > >
> > >   you were ripped off if you paid for that and the
> > > institution which gave you that degree should be
> > > discredited.
> > >
> > 
> > Are you familiar with the chemical properties of lemon juice and the
> > latter's eventual interactions with CCTV technology when applied to the
> > facial epidermis?

Someone decided that putting lemon juice on your face would render it
unrecognizable to cameras.

http://awesci.com/the-astonishingly-funny-story-of-mr-mcarthur-wheeler/

It's in the original Dunning-Kruger paper.

-dsr-

Re: Help me Linux

[Dan Ritter]

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 08:17:13AM -0400, songbird wrote:
> >
> > The reason for this mail is, I am not really very expert or well versed in
> > any computer language or any field of computer.
> 
>   my statement above is based upon this sentence...

I went to a pretty good CS undergraduate program in the mid
1990s. It was fairly likely that a graduate would have most of
the skills you listed... and it was also plausible that a 
barely-scraping-by graduate had none of them.

One of the required senior level courses was a survey of
currently interesting topics in the current market. It ended
with presentations from each student on something that they
had researched.

A student prepared a discussion of artificial intelligence which
did not mention any statistical techniques, neural networks,
biology, expert systems, biology, or really, anything of actual
interest. Much of the time was taken up by movie clips from The
Lawnmower Man. The actual text was mostly about how scary AI is.

I asked the only question in the Q afterwards: "Could you
explain what the difference is between AI and VR?" Some
stammering followed.

It's not always the course or the professor that fails a
student.

-dsr-

Re: Help me Linux

[Reco]

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 01:30:12PM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2018-10-31, songbird  wrote:
> > P M wrote:
> >
> >> Hey, this is Piyush M.
> >> I am a computer science graduate from 2015.
> >
> >   you were ripped off if you paid for that and the
> > institution which gave you that degree should be
> > discredited.
> >
> 
> Are you familiar with the chemical properties of lemon juice and the
> latter's eventual interactions with CCTV technology when applied to the
> facial epidermis?

Hereby politely requesting translation to plain English.

Reco

Re: Help me Linux

[Curt]

On 2018-10-31, songbird  wrote:
> P M wrote:
>
>> Hey, this is Piyush M.
>> I am a computer science graduate from 2015.
>
>   you were ripped off if you paid for that and the
> institution which gave you that degree should be
> discredited.
>

Are you familiar with the chemical properties of lemon juice and the
latter's eventual interactions with CCTV technology when applied to the
facial epidermis?

-- 
When you have fever you are heavy and light, you are small and swollen, you
climb endlessly a ladder which turns like a wheel. 
--Jean Rhys, Voyage in the Dark

Re: Help me Linux

[songbird]

P M wrote:

> Hey, this is Piyush M.
> I am a computer science graduate from 2015.

  you were ripped off if you paid for that and the
institution which gave you that degree should be
discredited.


> It was 2009-10 when first time I heard about Linux. Although in my area
> there was only Microsoft but I managed to download Linux. My first Linux
> was ubuntu. I was very happy to see its function and its working. I enjoyed
> that time without having little knowledge about computer. Since then I feel
> my relationship with the Linux and open source and free software.
> Although right now I am using Windows but still I feel very enthusiastic
> and energetic with Linux; even I don't know what the reason is.
>
> The reason for this mail is, I am not really very expert or well versed in
> any computer language or any field of computer.

  my statement above is based upon this sentence...

  and yes, you can improve, so get back to work on 
what you are missing.

  year 1. basic computer hardware/software and at 
least a dozen languages from various families of 
languages so you get an idea of what is useful 
for what.

  year 2, add some theory on data structures and 
computational complexity.  basic networking.
graphics and graphic design.

  year 3, data bases, os's, basic components of 
software systems (editors, compilers, linkers,
loaders, file systems, etc)

  year 4, advanced computer architectures, 
multiprocessing, advanced networking

  good luck...

   you notice above i mention nothing about
MS or apps?  that's stuff on top of what you 
learn and is useful, but only if you want to do
that sort of development.

   and, yes, i know that many of the above topics
are worthy of a lifetime of study in and off
themselves, but a CS graduate should have at least
some idea of what they are about...

  all IMO,


  songbird

Re: (deb-cat) Programari Java amb Firefox 60

[Jordi Mallach]

Hola,

El dt. 30 de 10 de 2018 a les 12:26 +0100, en/na Joan va escriure:
> Però el que tu comentes, de congelar la versió de Firefox i si algú
> vol
> les novetats, tirar de backports, doncs també era una bona opció,
> potser algo menys estable perquè obligues a obrir el sistema a
> backports, que mai serà tant estable com sense... I la pega afegida,
> potser, de que els mantenidors del paquet de Firefox a Debian s'hagin
> de
> currar les sol·lucions als forats de seguretat, sense aprofitar la
> feina de Mozilla amb les ESR.

Joan ha donat en el clau: durant un temps, l'equip de seguretat
intentava fer backports, un a un, dels pedaços que resolien les
vulnerabilitats, però això era com feina per a 2 persones a temps
complet. Un navegador i els seus motors de renderització i de JS no són
precisament el programari més simple que hi ha a l'arxiu de Debian.
Senzillament no era possible. La única cosa raonable és seguir les
versions ESR de Firefox, o directament no donar suport de seguretat als
navegadores que s'inclouen amb Debian.

Si em donen a triar entre una versió insegura del programa que emprem
tots més sovint i a totes hores o sacrificar els applets de Java, jo ho
tinc clar.

-- 
Jordi Mallach Pérez  -- Debian developer  https://www.debian.org/
jo...@sindominio.netjo...@debian.org  https://www.sindominio.net/
GnuPG public key information available at https://oskuro.net/

Re: No sound in debian stretch after install.

[deloptes]

john doe wrote:

> Did you install by selecting the option "install with speatch"?

no

> My guess is that there are some issues with pulseaudio after installation.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility

might be, but might be also something else

regards

Re: Help me Linux

[Erik Christiansen]

On 31.10.18 11:49, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote:
> On 30/10/2018 21:17, P M wrote:
> > Although right now I am using Windows but still I feel very enthusiastic
> > and energetic with Linux; even I don't know what the reason is.
> 
> You are feeling the potential of open source: a community open to all and
> your freedom to change anything. Even Microsoft is embracing it.
> 
> > I TRIED TO INSTALL DEBIAN MANY TIMES BUT FAILED BADLY. I NEVER USED DEBIAN.
> 
> Debian is harder to install than Ubuntu because it gives you more choice.
> Choice reduces happiness:
> https://www.ted.com/talks/dan_gilbert_asks_why_are_we_happy

For the use case, ubuntu might be a good lead-in for confidence
building. I once read on luv-main, in slightly longer form:

"My grandmother currently runs ubuntu. This was not my doing, but she
managed to wipe her windows and install it accidentally when someone
handed her the live CD to deal with a windows problem she was having.
The computer asked her to do things. So she did."

Erik

-- 
Debian is for people who can read man pages.
  Robert Moonen (on luv-main ML)

Re: No sound in debian stretch after install.

[john doe]

On 10/31/2018 12:59 AM, deloptes wrote:
> ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> BTW, I am using a virtual machine if this matters.
> 
> I just tried a VMware and VBox with Debian Stretch. All works fine. pcspkr
> and also aplay works fine as well.
> 
> I tried them from Debian Stretch box - no idea what is the host of OP.
> 
> 

Did you install by selecting the option "install with speatch"?
My guess is that there are some issues with pulseaudio after installation.

https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility#Debian_installer_accessibility

-- 
John Doe