Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall

[Rick Thomas]

> Since you have to install the firmware-linux-nonfree that means that
> it s not installed! From what I remember
> you need to select those packages at the end of the base image 
> installation.

And you must do an "expert" install, in order to see that option.  If you do a 
"Standard" install, you won't get a chance.

There's probably something you can put in the boot args that will force it to 
install the firmware-linux-nonfree package, but I don't know what that is.

Rick

couleurs de l'installeur

[Bernard Schoenacker]

bonjour,

je me rends compte que certaines couleurs ne sont plus 
adaptées actuellement aux écrans tft et je souhaiterai 
voir si une personne charitable pourrais suggérer de 
changer la couleur de fond (bleu) de l'installeur vers
une couleur plus douce et moins agressive pour les 
yeux ?

merci pour votre aimable attention

bien à vous
bernard

Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall

[Sven Joachim]

On 2020-01-18 19:12 -0500, tom h wrote:

> Recently I have installed stable on a few old optiplex workstations that
> have an AMD graphics card.  On first boot I always get a black screen and
> have to:
>
>1. Enable non-free
>2. Install firmware-linux-nonfree. Even though the netinstall media is
>firmware-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso
>
> 
>
> I see references to the AMD driver existing in the kernel and thought it
> would load at boot time.
>
> What am I missing?

There are no graphics drivers in the installer (it relies on a simple
framebuffer), so it will not detect that there is firmware missing for
them.

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: automounting sshfs

[Will Mengarini]

* Rainer Dorsch  [20-01/18=Sa 23:38 +0100]:
> ls: cannot access '/home/spatzen/Ablage/': Too many levels of symbolic links

Whenever I've seen this, it's been because some symlink is referring
(possibly indirectly) to itself.  So
  find ~/Ablage -type l
could be used to find all symlinks, and
  find -L ~/Ablage -type l
should find all and only broken symlinks.  Also,
  ls --color ~/Ablage
might display broken links in red but OK links in green.

* Rainer Dorsch  [20-01/18=Sa 23:38 +0100]:
> Hi,
> 
> I followed 
> 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/467081/sshfs-with-on-demand-mounting/
> 546102
> 
> to automount a directory with sshfs.
> 
> I added into /etc/fstab
> 
> sshfs#fs:/mnt/disk/data/spatzen /home/spatzen/Ablage fuse
> noauto,allow_other,x-systemd.automount,_netdev,user,IdentityFile=/home/
> spatzen/.ssh/id_rsa,reconnect 0 0
> 
> Generated as described on stackexchange a unit file: systemctl daemon-reload
> 
> root@nanette:~# systemctl list-unit-files --type automount
> UNIT FILE STATE
> home-spatzen-Ablage.automount generated
> proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.automount static   
> 
> 2 unit files listed.
> root@nanette:~# 
> 
> Restarted the automount unitfile (even rebooted), but when I try to 
> automount, 
> I get a strange error
> 
> spatzen@nanette:~$ ls -l /home/spatzen/Ablage/
> ls: cannot access '/home/spatzen/Ablage/': Too many levels of symbolic links
> spatzen@nanette:~$ 
> 
> It seems the system is doing something, but not the right thing. If I mount 
> manually  as user spatzen (mount /home/spatzen/Ablage) that works well...
> 
> Any idea and hint is welcome.
> 
> Thanks
> Rainer
> 

Re : Re: Re : Re: Choix du système Debian

[k6dedijon]

Bonjour Basile,
Je ne visais personne en particulier.
Mais parfois certains entrent dans des considérations trop techniques sans 
savoir si celui qui pose la question est apte à les recevoir.

Mais tu as tout à fait raison lorsque tu dis que l'utilisateur lambda ne fait 
pas ou trop peu de recherches sur le web pour trouver des réponses à son 
problème.
Quel utilisateur lambda cherche quel est le GUL (groupe d'utilisateur Linux) le 
plus proche ?

Bon courage à toi qui participe beaucoup à cette liste.
Cassis



- Mail d'origine -
De: bas...@starynkevitch.net
À: Klaus Becker 
Cc: k6dedi...@free.fr, ML Debian User French 

Envoyé: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 12:54:39 +0100 (CET)
Objet: Re: Re : Re: Choix du  système Debian


On Friday, January 17, 2020 11:20 CET, Klaus Becker  wrote:
 

Le 17/01/2020 à 03:54, k6dedi...@free.fr a écrit :
> Bonjour à tous,
> OUI, certains sont dans leur sphère informaticienne et ne se mettent pas 
> facilement à la portée d'un utilisateur lambda.
 
Je me sens visé, mais je peux retourner le compliment.

Certains utilisateurs lamda ne prennent même pas le temps de s'informer par eux 
mêmes, et pourtant les resources informationnelles disponibles sur le Web sont 
immenses, et notammanet sur la question dont on débat ici même.

(et pour info, j'avais un AsusEEE sur lequel j'avais installé une Debian)

Cordialement

--
Basile Starynkevitch, informaticien libriste et fier de l'être
http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/
 

Re: AMD 10.2 netinstall

[nektarios]

Στις 2020-01-19 01:17, nektarios έγραψε:

Στις 2020-01-19 00:12, tom h έγραψε:

Hello,

Recently I have installed stable on a few old optiplex workstations
that have an AMD graphics card.  On first boot I always get a black
screen and have to:

* Enable non-free
* Install firmware-linux-nonfree. Even though the netinstall media is
firmware-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso [1]

I see references to the AMD driver existing in the kernel and thought
it would load at boot time.

What am I missing?

Cheers,

Links:
--
[1] 
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/10.2.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso


Since you have to install the firmware-linux-nonfree that means that
it s not installed! From what I remember
you need to select those packages at the end of the base image 
installation.

---
Regards,
Nektarios Katakis

---
Regards,
Nektarios Katakis

AMD 10.2 netinstall

[tom h]

Hello,

Recently I have installed stable on a few old optiplex workstations that
have an AMD graphics card.  On first boot I always get a black screen and
have to:

   1. Enable non-free
   2. Install firmware-linux-nonfree. Even though the netinstall media is
   firmware-10.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso
   


I see references to the AMD driver existing in the kernel and thought it
would load at boot time.

What am I missing?

Cheers,

Re: Graphical indicators for Caps Lock and similar keys

[Jape Person]

On 1/18/20 2:32 PM, Darac Marjal wrote:


On 18/01/2020 02:54, Jape Person wrote:

On 1/17/20 7:27 PM, Tom Browder wrote:

I have a laptop, running Debian 10 (Buste) with the Mate desktop.

Unfortunately the laptop doesn't have light indicators on the
keyboard for
keys such as: CapLock, NumLock, Insert, etc.

Is there any way to get a graphical indicator on a docking bar to show
their status?

Thanks,

-Tom


I don't know whether or not gkrellm-leds would work for you. Last time
I tried it I found it to look at little out of place on my Xfce4
desktop, but it did perform some of the functions you're looking for.
(I don't think it had an insert indicator, but my memory could be wonky.)


If you're using XFCE, you might find
https://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-kbdleds-plugin
more to your taste. The code is a bit old, but still works well. This
give you a panel plugin with a simple "cns" where each letter gets
capitalised and given a green background when the appropriate lock is on.



Thanks, Darac. I looked at that page, but it appears that the download links are not working. Even 
if they were working, I'm not sure I'd want to try to install something that old. There have been a 
lot of changes to the Xfce4 panel since that plugin was last updated.


In any case, I'm switching to wired keyboards with indicators this weekend, so 
it's a moot point for me.

JP

Re: Graphical indicators for Caps Lock and similar keys

[Jape Person]

On 1/18/20 1:19 PM, Tom Browder wrote:

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:55 PM Jape Person  wrote:


I don't know whether or not gkrellm-leds would work for you. Last time I tried 
it I found it to look
at little out of place on my Xfce4 desktop, but it did perform some of the 
functions you're looking
for. (I don't think it had an insert indicator, but my memory could be wonky.)


I installed the package but didn't see any changes. And I saw no easy
way to affect my panels. As a result, I removed that package and
installed the 'mate-tweak' package, as suggested by Curt, and that
does work, at least for the Caps and Num lock keys.

I would like to try your suggestion if you can tell me how to actually
implement it--I am no longer familiar with the text settings for
desktop tweaks, but I am comfortable with such changes with clear
instructions.

-Tom



To get to the configuration dialog you have to right-click on the frame of the application and 
choose Configure. (You can also get the dialog by placing the mouse over the gkrellm application and 
hitting the F1 key.


Reading the man pages will give you and overview of functionality, and digging into the 
configuration user interface will let you set it up to suit you.


If you just install gkrellm-leds it will pull in a couple of other packages (gkrellm and 
libgnutls-openssl27). when you start it you'll see a lot of stuff that you probably don't want. You 
have to go into configuration and turn off each of the displays that you don't want. If you want 
gkrellm to show only the LEDs, this is quite a bit of work to get just that. But it does work.


It would require several pages of e-mail to explain the process, but it's obvious enough if you dig 
into the Configuration dialog pages and tabs for each item.


JP

automounting sshfs

[Rainer Dorsch]

Hi,

I followed 

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/467081/sshfs-with-on-demand-mounting/
546102

to automount a directory with sshfs.

I added into /etc/fstab

sshfs#fs:/mnt/disk/data/spatzen /home/spatzen/Ablage fuse
noauto,allow_other,x-systemd.automount,_netdev,user,IdentityFile=/home/
spatzen/.ssh/id_rsa,reconnect 0 0

Generated as described on stackexchange a unit file: systemctl daemon-reload

root@nanette:~# systemctl list-unit-files --type automount
UNIT FILE STATE
home-spatzen-Ablage.automount generated
proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.automount static   

2 unit files listed.
root@nanette:~# 

Restarted the automount unitfile (even rebooted), but when I try to automount, 
I get a strange error

spatzen@nanette:~$ ls -l /home/spatzen/Ablage/
ls: cannot access '/home/spatzen/Ablage/': Too many levels of symbolic links
spatzen@nanette:~$ 

It seems the system is doing something, but not the right thing. If I mount 
manually  as user spatzen (mount /home/spatzen/Ablage) that works well...

Any idea and hint is welcome.

Thanks
Rainer

Re: CD-ROM: inappropriate ioctl

[Thomas Schmitt]

Hi,

jeremy bentham wrote:
>   eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device

The inappropriate ioctl() does not necessarily have to be the reason
of the failure. man 1 eject indicates that several methods are tried.


> The command sees the drive (it's not the quietest thing in the
> world, and I can hear it clunking in the case).
> [...]
> The drive also does not respond to the physical control on the
> case.

This could be a damage of mechanical parts or sensors.

What do you get in file /tmp/xorriso.log by

  xorriso -scsi_log on -outdev /dev/sr0 -eject out 2>&1 | tee -i 
/tmp/xorriso.log


Does the drive have a hole for mechanical opening by a straightened paper
clip ?

If so, open the tray (best with power being off) and insert some medium.
Then try whether the drive reacts on eject, xorriso, or drive's own button
as long as a medium is in.
Such behavior is described in the web, and i experienced it myself with
a DVD-ROM drive.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas

Re: KDE file dialog in Libreoffice

[Rainer Dorsch]

On Samstag, 18. Januar 2020 21:00:04 CET Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 06:49:23PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > is there a way to get the KDE file dialog in libreoffice
> > (buster-backports) ?
> 
> > Installing libreoffice-kde does not seem to be sufficient for me...
> 
> libreoffice-kde5?
> 
> $ rmadison libreoffice-kde
> libreoffice-kde | 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u11| oldoldstable   |
> amd64, armel, armhf, i386 libreoffice-kde | 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u10|
> oldstable  | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips,
> mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x libreoffice-kde | 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u11   
> | oldstable-proposed-updates | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips,
> mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x libreoffice-kde | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4~bpo9+1
> | stretch-backports  | all libreoffice-kde | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 
>   | stable | all $ rmadison libreoffice-kde5
> libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4~bpo9+1  | stretch-backports | amd64,
> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 | stable| amd64,
> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.3.4-2~bpo10+1 | buster-backports  | amd64,
> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.3.4-2 | testing   | amd64,
> arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
> libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.3.4-2 | unstable  | arm64
> libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.4.0~beta1-0reprotest1 | experimental  | arm64,
> armel, armhf, mips64el, mipsel libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.4.0~beta1-4  
> | experimental  | amd64, i386, ppc64el, s390x libreoffice-kde5 |
> 1:6.4.0~rc2-2 | unstable  | amd64, armel, armhf, i386,
> mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x $
> 
> libreoffice-kde is a noop just depending on -kde5 (and not present in
> buster-backports since it was just in buster for stretch->buster updates).
> 

Hi Rene,

thanks for the quick reply. I think the issue is more subtle.

rd@nanette:~$ apt-cache policy libreoffice-kde5 
libreoffice-kde5:
  Installiert:   1:6.3.4-2~bpo10+1
  Installationskandidat: 1:6.3.4-2~bpo10+1
  Versionstabelle:
 *** 1:6.3.4-2~bpo10+1 100
100 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian buster-backports/main amd64 
Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 500
500 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4 500
500 http://security.debian.org buster/updates/main amd64 Packages
rd@nanette:~$ 

was installed, it was a typo on my side, libreoffice-kde was not installed.

And checking carefully, I think it is even the KDE file picker, here they are 
next to each other from kate (KDE editor) and libreoffice

http://scw.bokomoko.de/~rd/file_picker.png

I was looking Ablage in the Section Fremdgerät in the libreoffice file picker 
and 
this not find it. Since I had it on the other KDE apps, I concluded that it is 
another file picker.

Ablage is an sftp:// address. I am wondering, are these not supported by 
libreoffice?

Thanks
Rainer

Thanks
Rainer

MiniDebConf Maceió 2020 - CfP até 15/02

[Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana]

Olá,

Está aberta a chamada de propostas de atividades para a MiniDebConf 
Maceió 2020, que acontecerá de 25 a 28 de março no Laboratório de 
Computação Científica e Visualização (LCCV) localizado no Campus A. C. 
Simões da Universidade Federal de Alagoas (UFAL).


O envio de propostas pode ser feito até às 23h59min do dia 15 de fevereiro.

Está será a 4a. edição brasileira de uma MiniDebConf, e a 1a. edição no 
nordeste!


As inscrições gratuitas para os participantes abrirão em breve.

Mais informações:
https://maceio2020.debian.net/programacao/chamada-para-atividades/

Abraços,

--
Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana (phls)
Curitiba - Brasil
Debian Developer
Diretor do Instituto para Conservação de Tecnologias Livres
Site: http://www.phls.com.br
GNU/Linux user: 228719  GPG ID: 0443C450

Re: web server for development

[mick crane]

On 2020-01-18 20:09, Russell L. Harris wrote:

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 07:21:43PM +0100, deloptes wrote:

mick crane wrote:
I scp the files to a temp directory in my home directory on the 
server

then ssh into the server, su to root, change the permissions and
ownerships of the files then move them to /var/www/html/


for testing I usually configure something meaningful in apache and 
setup a
user that I would use to copy to the server. Keep it as simple as 
possible.


another option is to open the target directory and edit the code in 
place.


For the purpose of interactive development as I proceed through the
Template Toolkit tutorial in Chapter 11 of the O'Reilly Badger Book,
the "$ python3 -m http.server" approach is both working and simple.
Everything is in a single directory and only one machine is needed;
neither file movement (scp, FTP, RSYNC) nor change of permissions is
required.

Was not this simple approach to serving HTTP available back in
A.D. 2003 when the Badger Book was published?


I'd not heard of this python webserver but then I haven't looked at 
python as yet.

Tried to mimic locally wordpress that's on the hosting service.
unsure if the python server would replace apache for that.

--
mickiwiki.com
Key ID4BFEBB31

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Curt]

On 2020-01-18, Brian  wrote:
> On Sat 18 Jan 2020 at 15:42:08 +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
>
>> I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I 
>> get 
>> printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.
>> 
>> Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on top 
>> of 
>> each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any 
>> advice 
>> or hint is welcome...
>
> Using something that is probably on your system and doesn't pull in
> all the enormous texlive baggage:
>
>   pdfunite your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf out.pdf

This would put all yours on the same page (we are on the same page
here)?



-- 
"J'ai pour me guérir du jugement des autres toute la distance qui me sépare de
moi." Antonin Artaud

CD-ROM: inappropriate ioctl

[jeremy bentham]

Using the eject command I get the following message:

  eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device

This is new:  I used the drive to install the OS (jessie? Debian 9, anyway)
and I've actually--not too recently--listened to a CD on it.

Feeding The Duck the message didn't help; nor did deleting the
device file and running mknod.

The command sees the drive (it's not the quietest thing in the
world, and I can hear it clunking in the case).  It just doesn't
open the tray.

-- 
 Dave Williamsd...@eskimo.com

CD-ROM: inappropriate ioctl, addendum

[jeremy bentham]

The drive also does not respond to the physical control on the
case.

-- 
 Dave Williamsd...@eskimo.com

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Brian]

On Sat 18 Jan 2020 at 15:42:08 +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:  
   

   
> I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I 
> get   
> printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.  
>
>   
>
> Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on top 
> of   
> each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any 
> advice   
> or hint is welcome... 
>

   
Using something that is probably on your system and doesn't pull in 
   
all the enormous texlive baggage:   
   

   
  pdfunite your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf out.pdf

__ 

Brian. 
> 

Re: web server for development

[Russell L. Harris]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 07:21:43PM +0100, deloptes wrote:

mick crane wrote:

I scp the files to a temp directory in my home directory on the server
then ssh into the server, su to root, change the permissions and
ownerships of the files then move them to /var/www/html/


for testing I usually configure something meaningful in apache and setup a
user that I would use to copy to the server. Keep it as simple as possible.

another option is to open the target directory and edit the code in place.


For the purpose of interactive development as I proceed through the
Template Toolkit tutorial in Chapter 11 of the O'Reilly Badger Book,
the "$ python3 -m http.server" approach is both working and simple.
Everything is in a single directory and only one machine is needed;
neither file movement (scp, FTP, RSYNC) nor change of permissions is
required.

Was not this simple approach to serving HTTP available back in
A.D. 2003 when the Badger Book was published?

Re: KDE file dialog in Libreoffice

[Rene Engelhard]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 06:49:23PM +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> is there a way to get the KDE file dialog in libreoffice (buster-backports) ?

> 
> Installing libreoffice-kde does not seem to be sufficient for me...

libreoffice-kde5?

$ rmadison libreoffice-kde
libreoffice-kde | 1:4.3.3-2+deb8u11| oldoldstable   | 
amd64, armel, armhf, i386
libreoffice-kde | 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u10| oldstable  | 
amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
libreoffice-kde | 1:5.2.7-1+deb9u11| oldstable-proposed-updates | 
amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
libreoffice-kde | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4~bpo9+1 | stretch-backports  | all
libreoffice-kde | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5| stable | all
$ rmadison libreoffice-kde5
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u4~bpo9+1  | stretch-backports | amd64, 
arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5 | stable| amd64, 
arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.3.4-2~bpo10+1 | buster-backports  | amd64, 
arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.3.4-2 | testing   | amd64, 
arm64, armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.3.4-2 | unstable  | arm64
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.4.0~beta1-0reprotest1 | experimental  | arm64, 
armel, armhf, mips64el, mipsel
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.4.0~beta1-4   | experimental  | amd64, i386, 
ppc64el, s390x
libreoffice-kde5 | 1:6.4.0~rc2-2 | unstable  | amd64, 
armel, armhf, i386, mips64el, mipsel, ppc64el, s390x
$

libreoffice-kde is a noop just depending on -kde5 (and not present in 
buster-backports since it was
just in buster for stretch->buster updates).

Regards,

Rene

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Brian]

On Sat 18 Jan 2020 at 15:42:08 +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:

> I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I 
> get 
> printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.
> 
> Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on top 
> of 
> each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any 
> advice 
> or hint is welcome...

Using something that is probably on your system and doesn't pull in
all the enormous texlive baggage:

  pdfunite your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf your.pdf out.pdf

-- 
Brian.

Re: Graphical indicators for Caps Lock and similar keys

[Darac Marjal]

On 18/01/2020 02:54, Jape Person wrote:
> On 1/17/20 7:27 PM, Tom Browder wrote:
>> I have a laptop, running Debian 10 (Buste) with the Mate desktop.
>>
>> Unfortunately the laptop doesn't have light indicators on the
>> keyboard for
>> keys such as: CapLock, NumLock, Insert, etc.
>>
>> Is there any way to get a graphical indicator on a docking bar to show
>> their status?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Tom
>>
> I don't know whether or not gkrellm-leds would work for you. Last time
> I tried it I found it to look at little out of place on my Xfce4
> desktop, but it did perform some of the functions you're looking for.
> (I don't think it had an insert indicator, but my memory could be wonky.)
>
If you're using XFCE, you might find
https://goodies.xfce.org/projects/panel-plugins/xfce4-kbdleds-plugin
more to your taste. The code is a bit old, but still works well. This
give you a panel plugin with a simple "cns" where each letter gets
capitalised and given a green background when the appropriate lock is on.



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Re: No official way to make Debian Live USB "persistent"?

[songbird]

Linux-Fan wrote:
...
> I think the reason for there not being any official Debian instructions on
> this is that there is IMHO very little point in doing anything like a
> "persistent live USB". The advantages of live images are these:
>
>  + run off read-only media (less and less needed, but I still like it)
>  + not be changed s.t. they provide a good "testing" environment.
>
> Once you do not need this read-only abilities anymore, what is the point in
> using a live image? If it is about the ability to boot either under UEFI or
> under BIOS, I am not sure whether the method described under the post you
> liked will allow this...

  yes.  install Debian Stable if you want a persistent install.

  otherwise if i wanted a throw away install (for testing something
out) that is more persistent than a live image i would use either 
a different partition or a USB device (i have both set up and they 
work just fine).


  songbird

Re: web server for development

[deloptes]

mick crane wrote:

> It's a bit convoluted.
> I scp the files to a temp directory in my home directory on the server
> then ssh into the server, su to root, change the permissions and
> ownerships of the files then move them to /var/www/html/

for testing I usually configure something meaningful in apache and setup a
user that I would use to copy to the server. Keep it as simple as possible.
For example one default configuration in the past was the users
public_html.

another option is to open the target directory and edit the code in place.
Most editors would upload the changes automatically

Re: Graphical indicators for Caps Lock and similar keys

[Tom Browder]

On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 8:55 PM Jape Person  wrote:

> I don't know whether or not gkrellm-leds would work for you. Last time I 
> tried it I found it to look
> at little out of place on my Xfce4 desktop, but it did perform some of the 
> functions you're looking
> for. (I don't think it had an insert indicator, but my memory could be wonky.)

I installed the package but didn't see any changes. And I saw no easy
way to affect my panels. As a result, I removed that package and
installed the 'mate-tweak' package, as suggested by Curt, and that
does work, at least for the Caps and Num lock keys.

I would like to try your suggestion if you can tell me how to actually
implement it--I am no longer familiar with the text settings for
desktop tweaks, but I am comfortable with such changes with clear
instructions.

-Tom

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Curt]

On 2020-01-18, Rainer Dorsch  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I 
> get 
> printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.

> Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on top 
> of 
> each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any 
> advice 
> or hint is welcome...

evince has a 'Pages per side' setting in the print dialogue which allows
for such a thing (the easy way out).



> Thanks
> Rainer


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Re: Graphical indicators for Caps Lock and similar keys

[Tom Browder]

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 3:27 AM Curt  wrote:
...
> There's also apparently the 'mate-tweak' package, after installation of which
> (Preferences/Look and Feel/MATE Tweak/Enable keyboard LED).

That worked, at least I can see the position of my Caps Lock key
now--thanks, Curt!

-Tom

Re: web server for development

[mick crane]

On 2020-01-09 06:16, Russell L. Harris wrote:

For development of a web pages, I installed Apache2 on another machine
in the LAN so that I can FTP web pages from the development machine to
the web server and view the pages from the development machine.

But the installation of Apache2 on Buster serves documents from
/var/www/html/, which is owned by root, so as a normal user I cannot
FTP into that directory.

The web server is not exposed outside the LAN, so security is not an
issue.

What is the proper approach?


It's a bit convoluted.
I scp the files to a temp directory in my home directory on the server 
then ssh into the server, su to root, change the permissions and 
ownerships of the files then move them to /var/www/html/


mick

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KDE file dialog in Libreoffice

[Rainer Dorsch]

Hello,

is there a way to get the KDE file dialog in libreoffice (buster-backports) ?

Installing libreoffice-kde does not seem to be sufficient for me...

Thanks
Rainer
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Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Rainer Dorsch]

Am Samstag, 18. Januar 2020, 16:14:45 CET schrieb David Wright:
> On Sat 18 Jan 2020 at 15:42:08 (+0100), Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I
> > get printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.
> > 
> > Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on
> > top of each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk,
> > so any advice or hint is welcome...
> 
> I use pdfjam in texlive-extra-utils in functions like these.
> 
> function a4-2up-a4r {
> [ -z "$1" ] && printf '%s\n' "Usage:  $FUNCNAME prints a single A4 
> page
> as 2-up A5 pages on an A4 landscape page for producing A5 hand bills when
> cut up." >&2 && return 1 local Expandedname="$(-addextensionandoldfile "$1"
> "pdf")"
> [ -z "$Expandedname" ] && return
> pdfjam --vanilla --nup '2x1' --landscape --a4paper --outfile
> "${Expandedname/%.pdf/-a4-2up-a4r.pdf}" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" }
> 
> function a4-4up-a4 {
> [ -z "$1" ] && printf '%s\n' "Usage:  $FUNCNAME prints a single A4 
> page
> as 4-up A6 pages on an A4 page for producing A6 hand bills when cut up."
> >&2 && return 1 local Expandedname="$(-addextensionandoldfile "$1" "pdf")"
> [ -z "$Expandedname" ] && return
> pdfjam --vanilla --nup '2x2' --no-landscape --a4paper --outfile
> "${Expandedname/%.pdf/-a4-4up-a4.pdf}" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname"
> "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" }
> 
> function a4-8up-a4r {
> [ -z "$1" ] && printf '%s\n' "Usage:  $FUNCNAME prints a single A4 
> page
> as 8-up A7 pages on an A4 page for producing A7 tickets when cut up." >&2
> && return 1
> local Expandedname="$(-addextensionandoldfile "$1" "pdf")"
> [ -z "$Expandedname" ] && return
> pdfjam --vanilla --nup '4x2' --landscape --a4paper --outfile
> "${Expandedname/%.pdf/-a4-8up-a4r.pdf}" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname"
> "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname"
> "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" }
> 
> -addextensionandoldfile just adds .pdf if absent, and checks the file
> exists. Then the output file has explanatory info added to its name.
> 
> The pages are prepared for purpose at the appropriate size. You can
> use   --scale n   and   --noautoscale true   if needed for your input.
> 

Many thanks, David.

pdfjam --vanilla --nup '1x4' --no-landscape --a4paper --outfile out.pdf in.pdf

does exactly what I want (perfectly scaled to A4).

Thanks again
Rainer



> Cheers,
> David.


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Re: I need to be root to run this script

[l0f4r0]

Hi,

17 janv. 2020 à 02:40 de guik...@gmail.com:

> (I edited the > 10-installer>  file with the line > kaye ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: 
> /usr/local/bin/backlight-brightness > but it doesn't have any effect; in fact 
> I think sudo was rendered useless to me, as in I cannot execute sudo, it said 
> something like an error in line something)
>
Please paste:
* the error message when using sudo
* the output of command: id

Besides we still need your /etc/sudoers files (both OS) and your script 
/usr/local/bin/backlight-brightness.

Best regards,
l0f4r0

Re: No official way to make Debian Live USB "persistent"?

[Linux-Fan]

kaye n writes:


Hello Friends!

Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be an 'official' way of
creating a Live USB Debian that is 'persistent'.

If I google it, I get instructions from other websites, like this one:


[...]


http://cosmolinux.no-ip.org/raconetlinux2/persistence.html



1. Do you think it's wise to follow the steps on that web page?


It cant hurt to try, but I'd do it differently.


2.  Please confirm my understanding of 'persistence'.  If I boot a Debian
Live USB, connect to the internet via wifi, download gimp, vlc, kdenlive, and
freecad, and then I shutdown down the computer and boot the Live USB again,
the Live USB Debian would remember the wifi password and connect
automatically, and gimp, vlc, kdenlive and freecad would all still be there. 
That is persistence, yes?


Yes, that would also be my understanding :)

I think the reason for there not being any official Debian instructions on
this is that there is IMHO very little point in doing anything like a
"persistent live USB". The advantages of live images are these:

+ run off read-only media (less and less needed, but I still like it)
+ not be changed s.t. they provide a good "testing" environment.

Once you do not need this read-only abilities anymore, what is the point in
using a live image? If it is about the ability to boot either under UEFI or
under BIOS, I am not sure whether the method described under the post you
liked will allow this...

In case you want a "portable" system with persistence, just install Debian
to your USB medium of choice using the regular installer. In this case you
need to pay a little attention to the following things:

* Install the bootloader on the same device that you are installing the
  system to. If you only have one computer and do not want to use a virtual
  machine for the installation, the "first hard drive" will usually be
  occupied by your regular installation, but for live operation you need
  to install the bootloader to the USB device.

* Make sure to use a network configuration which can adapt to the different
  environments you will be using the USB device in e.g. DHCP rather than
  static IP etc. The default may work well :)

* Make sure to use the booting method of your target environment
  (BIOS vs. UEFI). In case of UEFI double-check that all boot-related
  stuff goes the USB device

Btw.: Did you get that backlight-script thing sorted out?
What was the solution in the end: sudo, udev, root?
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2020/01/msg00525.html

HTH
Linux-Fan

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[David Wright]

On Sat 18 Jan 2020 at 15:42:08 (+0100), Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I 
> get 
> printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.
> 
> Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on top 
> of 
> each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any 
> advice 
> or hint is welcome...

I use pdfjam in texlive-extra-utils in functions like these.

function a4-2up-a4r {
[ -z "$1" ] && printf '%s\n' "Usage:$FUNCNAME prints a single A4 
page as 2-up A5 pages on an
A4 landscape page for producing A5 hand bills when cut up." >&2 && 
return 1
local Expandedname="$(-addextensionandoldfile "$1" "pdf")"
[ -z "$Expandedname" ] && return
pdfjam --vanilla --nup '2x1' --landscape --a4paper --outfile 
"${Expandedname/%.pdf/-a4-2up-a4r.pdf}" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname"
}

function a4-4up-a4 {
[ -z "$1" ] && printf '%s\n' "Usage:$FUNCNAME prints a single A4 
page as 4-up A6 pages on an
A4 page for producing A6 hand bills when cut up." >&2 && return 1
local Expandedname="$(-addextensionandoldfile "$1" "pdf")"
[ -z "$Expandedname" ] && return
pdfjam --vanilla --nup '2x2' --no-landscape --a4paper --outfile 
"${Expandedname/%.pdf/-a4-4up-a4.pdf}" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" 
"$Expandedname" "$Expandedname"
}

function a4-8up-a4r {
[ -z "$1" ] && printf '%s\n' "Usage:$FUNCNAME prints a single A4 
page as 8-up A7 pages on an
A4 page for producing A7 tickets when cut up." >&2 && return 1
local Expandedname="$(-addextensionandoldfile "$1" "pdf")"
[ -z "$Expandedname" ] && return
pdfjam --vanilla --nup '4x2' --landscape --a4paper --outfile 
"${Expandedname/%.pdf/-a4-8up-a4r.pdf}" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" 
"$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" "$Expandedname" 
"$Expandedname"
}

-addextensionandoldfile just adds .pdf if absent, and checks the file
exists. Then the output file has explanatory info added to its name.

The pages are prepared for purpose at the appropriate size. You can
use   --scale n   and   --noautoscale true   if needed for your input.

Cheers,
David.

Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 18 Jan 2020 15:42:08 +0100
Rainer Dorsch  wrote:

Hello Rainer,

>Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on
>top of each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk,

LibreOffice can read pdfs.  LibreOffice can also print multiple sheets
per page.  However, LO's rendering of PDFs isn't the best.

If you have it, acroread can handle the task with ease.

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Re: Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Linux-Fan]

Rainer Dorsch writes:


Hi,

I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I
get
printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.

Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on top
of
each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any
advice
or hint is welcome...


If it is not so important that the individual pages' sizes are kept, you
could arrange it with pdfjam:

pdfjam --nup 1x4 --paper a4paper -o out.pdf in1.pdf in2.pdf in3.pdf 
in4.pdf

It is part of package `texlive-extra-utils` and it will adjust the page
format of the input files to fit "four over each other" by scaling them
(keeping intact the proportions but not the exact sizes...)

If you find something that keeps the sizes 100% as-is, that would be
interesting for me, too. My current approach to this would be to create a
LaTeX document with four \includegraphics[scale=1]{...}-statements, but that
seems to be overly complicated for something that should be easier :)

YMMV
Linux-Fan

[...]

Print several (small) pages on A4/Letter sheet

[Rainer Dorsch]

Hi,

I have a pdf file with a page size of 186x65 mm2. If I print that on A4, I get 
printouts which are mainly white, except the 186x65 mm2.

Is there a good way to get it printed in a compact way (e.g. 4 pages on top of 
each other on an A4 sheet)? I could not find an option in pdftk, so any advice 
or hint is welcome...

Thanks
Rainer
-- 
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http://bokomoko.de/

No official way to make Debian Live USB "persistent"?

[kaye n]

Hello Friends!

Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be an 'official' way of
creating a Live USB Debian that is 'persistent'.

If I google it, I get instructions from other websites, like this one:

http://cosmolinux.no-ip.org/raconetlinux2/persistence.html

1. Do you think it's wise to follow the steps on that web page?

2.  Please confirm my understanding of 'persistence'.  If I boot a Debian
Live USB, connect to the internet via wifi, download gimp, vlc, kdenlive,
and freecad, and then I shutdown down the computer and boot the Live USB
again, the Live USB Debian would remember the wifi password and connect
automatically, and gimp, vlc, kdenlive and freecad would all still be
there.  That is persistence, yes?

Thank you very much.

Re: only for debian?

[kaye n]

I don't see a vlc-centric email list in the off-topic list so I just asked
in VLC instead.
Thank you for pointing that out for me.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 8:55 PM songbird  wrote:

> kaye n wrote:
> >
> > Hello guys, I just want to ask if this email list is strictly for Debian?
> > Or can one ask just about anything as long as it's related to GNU/Linux,
> > free software, etc?
> >
> > I'm asking because I can't find what I'm looking for elsewhere. It's
> about
> > VLC player.
> >
> > No worries if this is for Debian only.
> >
> > Thank you!
>
>   vlc is a part of debian and i use it at times, i'm not sure
> i can answer your question though until you ask it.  :)
>
>   plain text is much easier to read than html.
>
>
>   songbird
>
>

Re: only for debian?

[songbird]

kaye n wrote:
>
> Hello guys, I just want to ask if this email list is strictly for Debian?
> Or can one ask just about anything as long as it's related to GNU/Linux,
> free software, etc?
>
> I'm asking because I can't find what I'm looking for elsewhere. It's about
> VLC player.
>
> No worries if this is for Debian only.
>
> Thank you!

  vlc is a part of debian and i use it at times, i'm not sure
i can answer your question though until you ask it.  :)

  plain text is much easier to read than html.


  songbird

Re: dhclient and ipv6 DNS Servers

[Rainer Dorsch]

Am Freitag, 17. Januar 2020, 11:12:07 CET schrieb Curt:
> On 2020-01-16, Rainer Dorsch  wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 15. Januar 2020, 00:09:16 CET schrieb Pascal Hambourg:
> >> Le 14/01/2020 à 21:14, Rainer Dorsch a écrit :
> >> > prepend dhcp6.name-servers 2001:4860:4860::, 2001:4860:4860::8844;
> >> > 
> >> > avoids the error message, but has no visible effect I can see. The IPv6
> >> > DNS
> >> > servers still do not show in resolv.conf.
> >> 
> >> You may receive IPv6 DNS information from IPv6 Router Advertisements
> >> (RA) with rdnssd, not DHCPv6.
> > 
> > Many thanks, Pascal, that explains the obervations :-)
> > 
> > I have in /etc/network/interfaces
> > 
> > iface eth0.1 inet6 auto
> > 
> >   dhcp 1
> >   request_prefix 1
> > 
> > I could not find a way to overwrite the DNS server for rdnssd, does
> > anybody
> > know if that is possible?
> 
> All above and way beyond me, but from a cursory online examination of
> this affair it appears that beyond disabling rdnssd entirely, it's
> necessary to modify or patch the /etc/rdnssd/merge-hook script to
> prevent rdnssd from overwriting /etc/resolv.conf.
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767071
> 
>  /etc/resolv.conf is handled by a configurable /etc/rdnssd/merge-hook
>  script that users can modify to suit their needs. The stock version
>  upstream has been modified to do what you want for ages:
> 
>  http://git.remlab.net/gitweb/?p=ndisc6.git;a=blob_plain;f=rdnssd/merge-hook
> .in;hb=f7bd3662d2292e248173721d4760c03df39df666

Many thanks for your response, Curt, that helped at least to hack an overwrite 
to the ipv6 DNS server.

I do not understand what the upsteam does which Debian does not (also the bug 
you are refering to is resolved!). Nevertheless, the merge-hook script is a 
good place to look at.

As a quick fix I commented the line

#mv -f $resolvconf.tmp $resolvconf

This at least keeps rdnssd from overwriting the resolv.conf constantly.

I think a better solution would be to check if a e.g. DNS6 variable is defined 
(e.g. in /etc/default/rdnssd) and if yes, ignore the content of

root@home:~# cat /var/run/rdnssd/resolv.conf 
nameserver fe80::d263:b4ff:fe00:325c%eth0.7
nameserver fd38:81d3:9dac::1
nameserver fd22:c2e0:8eb2::1
root@home:~# 

and use the content of the DNS6 variable instead.

Berni,

does that make sense or is there already another mechanism in place for 
overwriting the (ipv6) DNS Server?

I think I could provide you a patch for the script, if that makes sense for 
you to integrate in the Debian package.

Thanks
Rainer






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Re: only for debian?

[Eike Lantzsch]

On Friday, 17 January 2020 22:54:38 -03 kaye n wrote:
> Hello guys, I just want to ask if this email list is strictly for Debian?
> Or can one ask just about anything as long as it's related to GNU/Linux,
> free software, etc?
>
> I'm asking because I can't find what I'm looking for elsewhere. It's about
> VLC player.
>
> No worries if this is for Debian only.
>
> Thank you!
https://wiki.videolan.org/Forum/

You're welcome
Cheers
Eike

Re: Graphical indicators for Caps Lock and similar keys

[Curt]

On 2020-01-18, Jape Person  wrote:
> On 1/17/20 7:27 PM, Tom Browder wrote:
>> I have a laptop, running Debian 10 (Buste) with the Mate desktop.
>> 
>> Unfortunately the laptop doesn't have light indicators on the keyboard for
>> keys such as: CapLock, NumLock, Insert, etc.
>> 
>> Is there any way to get a graphical indicator on a docking bar to show
>> their status?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> -Tom
>> 
> I don't know whether or not gkrellm-leds would work for you. Last time
> I tried it I found it to look at little out of place on my Xfce4
> desktop, but it did perform some of the functions you're looking for.
> (I don't think it had an insert indicator, but my memory could be
> wonky.)

There's also apparently the 'mate-tweak' package, after installation of which
(Preferences/Look and Feel/MATE Tweak/Enable keyboard LED).

or

 gsettings set org.mate.peripherals-keyboard-xkb.general duplicate-leds true

(All untested).


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