Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
On 2021-02-22 12:04, Semih Ozlem wrote: Hi everyone, First of all thanks to everyone who responded in detail to my previous questions in email. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to my questions. YW. :-) I would like to ask a different question. Suppose that I install debian on a usb or a hard drive that does not have a lot of space. Suppose I get a second hard disk that has more space. Can I add the second disk to the debian system in a way so that additional programs that can not be installed in the system without the second disk due to "no disk space left" error can now be installed in the system. If the answer is yes, how should one proceed to add the second hard disk to the system so that this can be done? On 2021-02-22 12:55, Semih Ozlem wrote: The problem is when installing from the downloaded files, the system itself may give an error saying no disk space left. On 2021-02-22 13:37, Semih Ozlem wrote: I am currently pre-planning. If it could be done, then I am going to go about searching and purchasing necessary devices in order to do the task. That's why I am asking in the first place. I have a usb device that I can attach for testing now. Currently I am just running from a live usb. On 2021-02-22 15:02, Semih Ozlem wrote: processor i3-7100 ram 4 gb other details will have to restart the machine to tell. storage device there is an internal hard disk (500gb) that has windows installed on it, which I can not install another operating system to for now for reasons that I would have to back up files before and I don't have time right now to do that, and I am not sure about what would be the safest> way of copying files (or should I clone the disk instead) I will send lshw output shortly for interfaces and everything else. Software goal is (i) be able to test different systems, and planning to use virtualization for this purpose (ii) possibly create virtual machines with programs installed (iii) a sort of a potential goal is to build a web site and host it , but mainly just rather for learning how to do it, since probably I can not afford for now actually investing in necessary equipment and probably it is easier to do that by paying some service rather than doing it all on one's own (iv) be able to run some programming projects in python I sort of like exploring and testing out new things, and most of it is not planned. But basically I would like to have the system be able to hold (i) security tools/antivirus (ii) server (apache and samba), probably LAMP or nginx (iii) math packages / programs (R,gnuplot, lapack, and possibly others) (iv) programming packages (gcc,python,java,rhino) at the very least (v) virtualization (virtualbox) (vi) calibre (document viewing and creating instruments) (v) latex (vi) programs to record and view videos or audios, if possible running on the same machine. Of these, I may forego idea of running a server if this slows things too much. If possible also programming tools for machine-learning. Thank you for providing that information. :-) You are correct in wanting to back up Windows before going too far into Linux. I use Backup and Restore and/or File History, depending upon Windows version/ edition. Your Linux software/ use-case shopping list is very ambitious. I suggest starting simple and building up as you gain experience. Installing Linux is one thing. Configuring, operating, maintaining, adding software, backing up, restoring, updating, and upgrading Linux within a local network and Internet environment correctly and confidently requires a lot of learning. Again, what is the make and model of your computer? If custom, what is the make and model of the chassis and motherboard? This information is required to make sensible recommendations. Linux provides many useful tools for obtaining information about computers. Please boot live Linux, connect your USB device, run the following commands as root, and post the console session (prompt, command, and output): # lscpu # dmidecode --type 17 # fdisk -l # dmesg | tail -n 20 David
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 10:28 AM Alain D D Williams wrote: > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 07:59:13AM -0800, Will Mengarini wrote: > > Your groff command references $o but your script sets no value > > for it, so $o is either empty or inherited from your environment. > > Oh, that comes from the ps_print script that I hacked this out of. > $o was options, empty string for this script. > > Thanks, fixed. > > Also use of $0 which should have been $progname > > Me: just updated a script last changed 19 years ago. > Something tells me you had it under source-code control too, using rcs most likely ☺ Very minimal in the Old Unix Way: source control with 3 short subcommands. None of this bloated Linus Torvalds "git" galactic-ware 😂 > -- > Alain Williams > Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT > Lecturer. > +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ > Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: > https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html > #include > >
Re: 'ddgr' cli for duckduckgo snafu?
Hi, On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:21:30 -0500 (EST) Bob Bernstein wrote: > I have v. 1.6 via apt-get on an uptodate buster amd64 system. > > Every attempt to run a search yields "No results," even if I > specify 'Boston Red Sox'. > > Recommendations? Calm soothing thoughts? > > Thank you. just download version 1.9 from https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/all/ddgr/download and install it with # dpkg -i ddgr_1.9-2_all.deb Here this seems to fix the issue. Regards Michael .-.. .. ...- . .-.. --- -. --. .- -. -.. .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-. You humans have that emotional need to express gratitude. "You're welcome," I believe, is the correct response. -- Spock, "Bread and Circuses", stardate 4041.2
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
On 2/22/21 05:04, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format. > How do I view it?> I installed troffcvt but its man-page is non-informative. > TIA Manpages typically are gzipped troff files, and the man program is used to handling them, either gzipped or not, if they are found by the man search mechanism. Presumably the program you downloaded does not come in a standard Debian package, since that would have installed the manpage as well as the program, and in a location that would allow the man command to find it. Accordingly, the man page(s) that came with it probably should be installed consistent with the way the executable and other associated files are installed, maybe under /usr/local/ or /opt/, for example, or in a subdirectory - e. g., bin - of your login directory. In the simplest case, where you are running the program in your login environment, create in your login directory the subdirectories man and man/man1; put the manpage file under ~/man/man1 and give it the suffix .1. Run gzip on it if you want to save around 2/3 of the space. If you installed the program for general system use, for example in /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin, or under /opt or some other installation directory, read the man pages for man and manpath carefully while studying the file /etc/manpath.config. In them you will find the information you need to put the manpage wherever you like. Regards, Tom Dial
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 10:02, Semih Ozlem wrote: Thanks for the info. What is the make/model of the external USB disk? Which version of USB port is it connected to? > storage device there is an internal hard disk (500gb) that has windows > installed on it, which I can not install another operating system to for now > for reasons that I would have to back up files before and I don't have time > right now to do that, and I am not sure about what would be the safest way of > copying files (or should I clone the disk instead) Is there physical space inside this machine into which you could fit an extra internal (eg SATA) hard disk drive, and use it for experiments with other operating systems?
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
processor i3-7100 ram 4 gb other details will have to restart the machine to tell. storage device there is an internal hard disk (500gb) that has windows installed on it, which I can not install another operating system to for now for reasons that I would have to back up files before and I don't have time right now to do that, and I am not sure about what would be the safest way of copying files (or should I clone the disk instead) I will send lshw output shortly for interfaces and everything else. Software goal is (i) be able to test different systems, and planning to use virtualization for this purpose (ii) possibly create virtual machines with programs installed (iii) a sort of a potential goal is to build a web site and host it , but mainly just rather for learning how to do it, since probably I can not afford for now actually investing in necessary equipment and probably it is easier to do that by paying some service rather than doing it all on one's own (iv) be able to run some programming projects in python I sort of like exploring and testing out new things, and most of it is not planned. But basically I would like to have the system be able to hold (i) security tools/antivirus (ii) server (apache and samba), probably LAMP or nginx (iii) math packages / programs (R,gnuplot, lapack, and possibly others) (iv) programming packages (gcc,python,java,rhino) at the very least (v) virtualization (virtualbox) (vi) calibre (document viewing and creating instruments) (v) latex (vi) programs to record and view videos or audios, if possible running on the same machine. Of these, I may forego idea of running a server if this slows things too much. If possible also programming tools for machine-learning. David , 23 Şub 2021 Sal, 01:10 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 08:38, Semih Ozlem > wrote: > > > I have a usb device that I can attach for testing now. > > Sorry if I overlooked that you provided this information already > elsewhere, but I think it would help us to help you if you would > properly describe for us the hardware that you are currently using. > > 1) What processor and motherboard hardware are you currently using? >Make and model? > 2) How much RAM is available? > 3) What storage devices (eg hard disk drives) are connected to this? >Make and model? Using what busses/interfaces (eg SATA, USB)? > 4) What is the software goal? What is the intended use? >What services or applications do you wish to run on this hardware? > >
Re: 'ddgr' cli for duckduckgo snafu?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 2:15 PM Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Mon, 22 Feb 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > I had the same experience. Gave up on duckduckgo but one time it came > thru > > in a pinch. > > Why give up on the search engine merely because a rogue util has > gone goofy? Because I had better alternatives that were more reliable, easier to use, and IMO a little more aligned with unix-y linux-y "tradition".
Re: 'ddgr' cli for duckduckgo snafu?
On Mon, 22 Feb 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: I had the same experience. Gave up on duckduckgo but one time it came thru in a pinch. Why give up on the search engine merely because a rogue util has gone goofy? I went looking for duckduckgo search syntax and found what I need, which is not all that much. https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/syntax/ WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW is why every doctor's office in the country wants me to show up fifteen minutes early. Why not just push all the appts back fifteen minutes? Gets me there at the same time No good? Hmm...those bastards are up to something. -- RSB
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 12:37:52AM +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > I am currently pre-planning. If it could be done, then I am going to go > about searching and purchasing necessary devices in order to do the task. > That's why I am asking in the first place. I have a usb device that I can > attach for testing now. > > Currently I am just running from a live usb. Here is the output of df -h > > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > udev1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /dev > tmpfs 384M 6.4M 378M 2% /run > /dev/sdb1 2.9G 2.9G 0 100% /run/live/medium > /dev/loop0 2.6G 2.6G 0 100% /run/live/rootfs/filesystem.squashfs > tmpfs 1.9G 1.8G 86M 96% /run/live/overlay > overlay 1.9G 1.8G 86M 96% / > tmpfs 1.9G 102M 1.8G 6% /dev/shm > tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock > tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup > tmpfs 1.9G 436K 1.9G 1% /tmp > tmpfs 384M 5.8M 378M 2% /run/user/1000 > > > Greg Wooledge , 23 Şub 2021 Sal, 00:14 tarihinde şunu > yazdı: > > > Semih Ozlem (semihozlemlinuxu...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > It is a starting point but the problem is really not with whether there > > is > > > enough space to download installation files, for they can be downloaded > > > remotely to some other disk. The problem is when installing from the > > > downloaded files, the system itself may give an error saying no disk > > space > > > left. The problem is when installing the file I presume some files are > > > written in linux directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin > > so > > > that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is > > added, > > > it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or > > > available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories in linux filesystem get > > > used... Is it possible to make some changes to filesystem hierarchy so > > that > > > the additional disk becomes available to the system? > > > > You decide where to mount the new partition(s) or logical volume(s). > > > > Start from the beginning, please. Show us the output of "df -h" or > > something. Also tell us how the computer is being used (personal > > desktop/laptop, server of some kind, etc.). Tell us where the big > > files are, or the big collections of files. > > > > Tell us how big each disk is. > > > > From there, people may be able to give you concrete advice, like "make > > a 10 GB partition and mount it as /var", or "mount the entire second > > disk as /home". > > > > This is, effectively, what LVM was invented for: with a bit of care, you can add another disk and "just add it" as extra storage. [The debian-handbook package may be quite useful: a long book which covers a lot of the basics and some advanced topics. It was very professionally written by a Debian developer of long experience and covers a lot of your questions. The package installs a PDF - you can also purchase print copies online.] Having said that, if you partition disks using your own partitioning scheme and run out of space in /var/ , say, you may have locked up the machine enough that it's hard to undo enough to attach another disk. This is one of the reasons why it's quite useful to keep a spare desktop style machine around to practice installs, learn how to deal with breakage, have a machine to practice upgrades to the next stable version and so on :) All the best, Andy C.
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 at 08:38, Semih Ozlem wrote: > I have a usb device that I can attach for testing now. Sorry if I overlooked that you provided this information already elsewhere, but I think it would help us to help you if you would properly describe for us the hardware that you are currently using. 1) What processor and motherboard hardware are you currently using? Make and model? 2) How much RAM is available? 3) What storage devices (eg hard disk drives) are connected to this? Make and model? Using what busses/interfaces (eg SATA, USB)? 4) What is the software goal? What is the intended use? What services or applications do you wish to run on this hardware?
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
I am currently pre-planning. If it could be done, then I am going to go about searching and purchasing necessary devices in order to do the task. That's why I am asking in the first place. I have a usb device that I can attach for testing now. Currently I am just running from a live usb. Here is the output of df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /dev tmpfs 384M 6.4M 378M 2% /run /dev/sdb1 2.9G 2.9G 0 100% /run/live/medium /dev/loop0 2.6G 2.6G 0 100% /run/live/rootfs/filesystem.squashfs tmpfs 1.9G 1.8G 86M 96% /run/live/overlay overlay 1.9G 1.8G 86M 96% / tmpfs 1.9G 102M 1.8G 6% /dev/shm tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup tmpfs 1.9G 436K 1.9G 1% /tmp tmpfs 384M 5.8M 378M 2% /run/user/1000 Greg Wooledge , 23 Şub 2021 Sal, 00:14 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > Semih Ozlem (semihozlemlinuxu...@gmail.com) wrote: > > It is a starting point but the problem is really not with whether there > is > > enough space to download installation files, for they can be downloaded > > remotely to some other disk. The problem is when installing from the > > downloaded files, the system itself may give an error saying no disk > space > > left. The problem is when installing the file I presume some files are > > written in linux directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin > so > > that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is > added, > > it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or > > available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories in linux filesystem get > > used... Is it possible to make some changes to filesystem hierarchy so > that > > the additional disk becomes available to the system? > > You decide where to mount the new partition(s) or logical volume(s). > > Start from the beginning, please. Show us the output of "df -h" or > something. Also tell us how the computer is being used (personal > desktop/laptop, server of some kind, etc.). Tell us where the big > files are, or the big collections of files. > > Tell us how big each disk is. > > From there, people may be able to give you concrete advice, like "make > a 10 GB partition and mount it as /var", or "mount the entire second > disk as /home". > >
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
Semih Ozlem (semihozlemlinuxu...@gmail.com) wrote: > It is a starting point but the problem is really not with whether there is > enough space to download installation files, for they can be downloaded > remotely to some other disk. The problem is when installing from the > downloaded files, the system itself may give an error saying no disk space > left. The problem is when installing the file I presume some files are > written in linux directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin so > that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is added, > it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or > available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories in linux filesystem get > used... Is it possible to make some changes to filesystem hierarchy so that > the additional disk becomes available to the system? You decide where to mount the new partition(s) or logical volume(s). Start from the beginning, please. Show us the output of "df -h" or something. Also tell us how the computer is being used (personal desktop/laptop, server of some kind, etc.). Tell us where the big files are, or the big collections of files. Tell us how big each disk is. From there, people may be able to give you concrete advice, like "make a 10 GB partition and mount it as /var", or "mount the entire second disk as /home".
Re: AD user can't ssh in
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 1:47 PM Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:37 PM Kent West wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:52 AM Nicholas Geovanis >> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 5:09 PM Kent West wrote: >>> >>> Brand new Debian box (tried Buster, then when that didn;' work, upgraded >>> tp unstable - meh, it's a test box to get things sorted out before >>> production use). >>> >>> su'd to root >>> >>> apt install'd aptitude, realmd, packagekit >>> >>> (packagekit grabbed the needed dependencies, such as sssd and samba (at >>> least parts of them, and maybe part of KRB5 (the keytab thing-y), and >>> [mostly] configured them) >>> >>> Ran "realm join MY.DOMAIN -U my_add-to-domain_user" >>> >>> getent passwd domain_user successfully returns data on the domain user: >>> >>> acutech@21260-debianvm:~$ getent passwd glerp@my.domain >>> glerp@my.domain:*:495633057:495600513:glerp:/home/glerp@my.domain >>> :/bin/bash >>> >>> >>> >>> Here are a few relevant lines from /var/log/auth.log: >>> >>> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): >>> authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= >>> rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain >>> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:auth): >>> authentication success; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= >>> rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain >>> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:account): Access >>> denied for user glerp@my.domain: 6 (Permission denied) >>> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: Failed password for >>> glerp@my.domain from 127.0.0.1 port 59998 ssh2 >>> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: fatal: Access denied for user >>> glerp@my.domain by PAM account configuration [preauth] >>> >>> >>> So I think what this is telling you is that authentication succeeded for >>> the "auth" clause in the "sshd" section of the PAM config file (pam_sss). >>> But then authentication failed in the "account" clause of the sshd section. >>> >>> So the question is why there? >>> >>> >> . > >> I built another virtual machine on another Debian box, following the same > steps. That one worked. > > I compared all the files I could think of (/etc/pam.d/ files, > /etc/nsswitch.conf, /etc/ssd/ssd_config, etc), and made them identical. > Didn't help. > > I then rebuilt the offending machine, removed it from the domain, followed > the same steps again, and now ... it works. > > Go figure. > And having been on that merry-go-round myself more than once, Mr West☺ that usually means something bad happened in the initial Kerberos ticket granting process that happens at LDAP/AD initial config. First you need a ticket-granting-ticket from the LDAP or AD domain (the TGT). And then you need a session ticket for each kerberos session. Those sessions are usually much shorter than the lifetime of a single boot. So sometimes they need to be re-acquired outside of the boot process. And yes, nsswitch.conf is vital. There are folks on debian-user who understand it better than me. The first time I did that was on Solaris 8 however. Built LDAP, nss and AD interface code from source. No base config files except for PAM. Took a few tries but it worked. It's hard to shake out and you did it. West in pieces... ☺ I would have loved to have found the problem, but more importantly for me, > I now know the process works. For now, that's sufficient. > > > > -- > Kent West<")))>< > Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com >
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
It is a starting point but the problem is really not with whether there is enough space to download installation files, for they can be downloaded remotely to some other disk. The problem is when installing from the downloaded files, the system itself may give an error saying no disk space left. The problem is when installing the file I presume some files are written in linux directory usually I presume or guess in /bin/ or /sbin so that the installed programs become usable. When an external disk is added, it is writable and readable but its space does not become incorporated or available to /bin /sbin or whatever directories in linux filesystem get used... Is it possible to make some changes to filesystem hierarchy so that the additional disk becomes available to the system? It is possible with some programs... One could extract files to any directory one wishes, and run the program from the extracted directory. I am not sure if it is possible with any program. (are .deb files basically compressed files?) I guess one problem one could run into is when the program needs to read from and write to the rest of the system it needs to know where it is located and how to access other elements of the system... But apt-get install or dpkg -i will install files to /bin or /sbin ... Do they have an option to install elsewhere and be able to resolve other problems such as knowing its path and being able to communicate with other paths appropriately? Brian , 22 Şub 2021 Pzt, 23:22 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > On Mon 22 Feb 2021 at 23:04:00 +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > First of all thanks to everyone who responded in detail to my previous > > questions in email. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to my > > questions. > > > > I would like to ask a different question. Suppose that I install debian > on > > a usb or a hard drive that does not have a lot of space. Suppose I get a > > second hard disk that has more space. Can I add the second disk to the > > debian system in a way so that additional programs that can not be > > installed in the system without the second disk due to "no disk space > left" > > error can now be installed in the system. If the answer is yes, how > should > > one proceed to add the second hard disk to the system so that this can be > > done? > > A really intetesting question. Maybe > > > https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#sufficient-space > > helps you on your way. > > -- > Brian. > >
Re: is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
On Mon 22 Feb 2021 at 23:04:00 +0300, Semih Ozlem wrote: > Hi everyone, > > First of all thanks to everyone who responded in detail to my previous > questions in email. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to my > questions. > > I would like to ask a different question. Suppose that I install debian on > a usb or a hard drive that does not have a lot of space. Suppose I get a > second hard disk that has more space. Can I add the second disk to the > debian system in a way so that additional programs that can not be > installed in the system without the second disk due to "no disk space left" > error can now be installed in the system. If the answer is yes, how should > one proceed to add the second hard disk to the system so that this can be > done? A really intetesting question. Maybe https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#sufficient-space helps you on your way. -- Brian.
Re: 'ddgr' cli for duckduckgo snafu?
On Mon, 22 Feb 2021, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: I had the same experience. Gave up on duckduckgo but one time it came thru in a pinch. Why give up on the search engine merely because a rogue util has gone goofy? I went looking for duckduckgo search syntax and found what I need, which is not all that much. https://help.duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/syntax/ WHAT I REALLY WANT TO KNOW is why every doctor's office in the country wants me to show up fifteen minutes early. Why not just push all the appts back fifteen minutes? Gets me there at the same time No good? Hmm...those bastards are up to something. -- RSB
is it possible to add a secondary disk to an existing debian systems and install programs to the secondary disk
Hi everyone, First of all thanks to everyone who responded in detail to my previous questions in email. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply to my questions. I would like to ask a different question. Suppose that I install debian on a usb or a hard drive that does not have a lot of space. Suppose I get a second hard disk that has more space. Can I add the second disk to the debian system in a way so that additional programs that can not be installed in the system without the second disk due to "no disk space left" error can now be installed in the system. If the answer is yes, how should one proceed to add the second hard disk to the system so that this can be done? Thanks Semih Ozlem
Re: AD user can't ssh in
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 1:37 PM Kent West wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:52 AM Nicholas Geovanis > wrote: > >> On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 5:09 PM Kent West wrote: >> >> Brand new Debian box (tried Buster, then when that didn;' work, upgraded >> tp unstable - meh, it's a test box to get things sorted out before >> production use). >> >> Minimal setup (unchecked everything in TaskSel step during install; later >> used TaskSel to add X11/Mate). >> >> su'd to root >> >> apt install'd aptitude, realmd, packagekit >> >> (packagekit grabbed the needed dependencies, such as sssd and samba (at >> least parts of them, and maybe part of KRB5 (the keytab thing-y), and >> [mostly] configured them) >> >> Ran "realm join MY.DOMAIN -U my_add-to-domain_user" >> >> getent passwd domain_user successfully returns data on the domain user: >> >> acutech@21260-debianvm:~$ getent passwd glerp@my.domain >> glerp@my.domain:*:495633057:495600513:glerp:/home/glerp@my.domain >> :/bin/bash >> >> >> But the domain user can't log in via ssh (a local user can ssh in). >> >> techman@21260-debianvm:~$ ssh -l glerp@my.domain 21260-debianvm >> glerp@my.domain@21260-debianvm's password: >> Connection closed by 127.0.1.1 port 22 >> >> Here are a few relevant lines from /var/log/auth.log: >> >> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): >> authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= >> rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain >> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:auth): >> authentication success; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= >> rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain >> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:account): Access >> denied for user glerp@my.domain: 6 (Permission denied) >> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: Failed password for >> glerp@my.domain from 127.0.0.1 port 59998 ssh2 >> Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: fatal: Access denied for user >> glerp@my.domain by PAM account configuration [preauth] >> >> >> So I think what this is telling you is that authentication succeeded for >> the "auth" clause in the "sshd" section of the PAM config file (pam_sss). >> But then authentication failed in the "account" clause of the sshd section. >> >> So the question is why there? >> >> > As I'm trying to parse this log snippet, I take the line mentioning > "pam_unix" to mean that "glerp" is not found in the normal *nix > authentication files method (ie, "glerp" is not found in "/etc/passwd"). > > But the next line indicates that SSS does find "glerp" in its > authentication method (ie, authentication via the domain). > > So "glerp" was not authenticated as a local user, but he was authenticated > as a domain user. > > Then the next line says that although "glerp" has been authenticated as a > domain user, "glerp" does not have authorization to ssh in, and then the > next line says it's because the password is failing. > > But that doesn't make sense to me. > > I built another virtual machine on another Debian box, following the same steps. That one worked. I compared all the files I could think of (/etc/pam.d/ files, /etc/nsswitch.conf, /etc/ssd/ssd_config, etc), and made them identical. Didn't help. I then rebuilt the offending machine, removed it from the domain, followed the same steps again, and now ... it works. Go figure. I would have loved to have found the problem, but more importantly for me, I now know the process works. For now, that's sufficient. -- Kent West<")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: AD user can't ssh in
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 7:52 AM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 5:09 PM Kent West wrote: > > Brand new Debian box (tried Buster, then when that didn;' work, upgraded > tp unstable - meh, it's a test box to get things sorted out before > production use). > > Minimal setup (unchecked everything in TaskSel step during install; later > used TaskSel to add X11/Mate). > > su'd to root > > apt install'd aptitude, realmd, packagekit > > (packagekit grabbed the needed dependencies, such as sssd and samba (at > least parts of them, and maybe part of KRB5 (the keytab thing-y), and > [mostly] configured them) > > Ran "realm join MY.DOMAIN -U my_add-to-domain_user" > > getent passwd domain_user successfully returns data on the domain user: > > acutech@21260-debianvm:~$ getent passwd glerp@my.domain > glerp@my.domain:*:495633057:495600513:glerp:/home/glerp@my.domain > :/bin/bash > > > But the domain user can't log in via ssh (a local user can ssh in). > > techman@21260-debianvm:~$ ssh -l glerp@my.domain 21260-debianvm > glerp@my.domain@21260-debianvm's password: > Connection closed by 127.0.1.1 port 22 > > Here are a few relevant lines from /var/log/auth.log: > > Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): > authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= > rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain > Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:auth): > authentication success; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= > rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain > Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:account): Access > denied for user glerp@my.domain: 6 (Permission denied) > Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: Failed password for > glerp@my.domain from 127.0.0.1 port 59998 ssh2 > Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: fatal: Access denied for user > glerp@my.domain by PAM account configuration [preauth] > > > So I think what this is telling you is that authentication succeeded for > the "auth" clause in the "sshd" section of the PAM config file (pam_sss). > But then authentication failed in the "account" clause of the sshd section. > > So the question is why there? > > As I'm trying to parse this log snippet, I take the line mentioning "pam_unix" to mean that "glerp" is not found in the normal *nix authentication files method (ie, "glerp" is not found in "/etc/passwd"). But the next line indicates that SSS does find "glerp" in its authentication method (ie, authentication via the domain). So "glerp" was not authenticated as a local user, but he was authenticated as a domain user. Then the next line says that although "glerp" has been authenticated as a domain user, "glerp" does not have authorization to ssh in, and then the next line says it's because the password is failing. But that doesn't make sense to me. -- Kent West<")))>< Westing Peacefully - http://kentwest.blogspot.com
Re: 'ddgr' cli for duckduckgo snafu?
On 22/02/2021 18:21, Bob Bernstein wrote: > I have v. 1.6 via apt-get on an uptodate buster amd64 system. > > Every attempt to run a search yields "No results," even if I specify > 'Boston Red Sox'. > > Recommendations? Calm soothing thoughts? This sounds like https://github.com/jarun/ddgr/issues/119 The reporter there was using version 1.7 and was advised to upgrade to version 1.9. I imagine the same problem manifests in version 1.6. > > Thank you. > OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 'ddgr' cli for duckduckgo snafu?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021, 12:29 PM Bob Bernstein wrote: > I have v. 1.6 via apt-get on an uptodate buster amd64 system. > > Every attempt to run a search yields "No results," even if I > specify 'Boston Red Sox'. > > Recommendations? Calm soothing thoughts? > Is this soothing enough? I had the same experience. Gave up on duckduckgo but one time it came thru in a pinch. Thank you. > > -- > RSB > >
'ddgr' cli for duckduckgo snafu?
I have v. 1.6 via apt-get on an uptodate buster amd64 system. Every attempt to run a search yields "No results," even if I specify 'Boston Red Sox'. Recommendations? Calm soothing thoughts? Thank you. -- RSB
Re: Conflicting alternatives
On 2021-02-22, Kevin Shell wrote: >> > But I see your posts are coming into > the debian user list thru news.bofh.it / erode.bofh.it? > > Received: from erode.bofh.it (erode.bofh.it [85.94.204.147]) > by bendel.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D507E20160 > for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:40:05 + > (UTC) > Received: from erode.bofh.it (localhost [IPv6:::1]) > by erode.bofh.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD584907E04 > for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 14:40:02 +0100 > (CET) I believed you asked what connection there was between the *NNTP* server where Andrei's posts appear normally (news.gmane.io) and the server where they do not (news.free.fr). There is no connection between the two. When I post via news.free.fr, the article transits through the mail gateway(s) shown above. >> > By the way, >> > the site news.bofh.it/erode.bofh.it 's gateway scripts >> > rewrite the "In-Reply-To" and "References" header >> > values(x...@gated-at.bofh.it), >> > breaking mail reader's threading. >> > >> >> I regret this, if true, but have no control over it (other than using >> news.free.fr, the newserver of my ISP, which is and was my intention >> (but to which some posts never seem to arrive)). >> > The server news.bofh.it / erode.bofh.it rewrites "Message-ID" field value, > which it should't as it breaks message threading. > I
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 07:59:13AM -0800, Will Mengarini wrote: > Your groff command references $o but your script sets no value > for it, so $o is either empty or inherited from your environment. Oh, that comes from the ps_print script that I hacked this out of. $o was options, empty string for this script. Thanks, fixed. Also use of $0 which should have been $progname Me: just updated a script last changed 19 years ago. -- Alain Williams Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT Lecturer. +44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/ Parliament Hill Computers Ltd. Registration Information: https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html #include
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
Your groff command references $o but your script sets no value
for it, so $o is either empty or inherited from your environment.
* Alain D D Williams [21-02/22=Mo 12:58 +]:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 06:04:15AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format.
>> How do I view it?
>> I installed troffcvt but its man-page is non-informative.
>> TIA
>
> Feel free to use my script to do that, below.
>
> ps_print is another script that send to my printer.
>
>
> #!/bin/ksh
> # Format up a man page, the file name is the argument
> # ADDW, July 1999
>
> progname=$0
>
> Usage() {
> cat <<-!
> Process a file with the man macros.
> Usage: $0 [opts] [file]
> -p generate (Postscript) output to current printer
> -x eXplain
> !
> exit $1
> }
>
> Postscript=0
>
> while getopts px arg
> docase "$arg" in
> p) Postscript=1;;
> x) Usage 0;;
> esac
> done
>
> shift $((OPTIND - 1))
>
>
> if [ $# -eq 0 ]
> then echo "Usage: $0 filename" >&2
> exit 2
> fi
>
> if [ $Postscript = 1 ]
> then groff -man -etpsR -rO0.75i -rW6.5i -rL11i $o $1 | ps_print
> else tbl $1 | nroff -man | col | less
> fi
>
Re: Conflicting alternatives
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 01:39:18PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2021-02-22, Kevin Shell wrote: > >> > >> Maybe it's some problem specific to news.free.fr. > >> > > > > How the two sites news.bofh.it/erode.bofh.it news.free.fr are connected? > > Is news.bofh.it feeding articles to news.free.fr? > > They are not connected. > But I see your posts are coming into the debian user list thru news.bofh.it / erode.bofh.it? Received: from erode.bofh.it (erode.bofh.it [85.94.204.147]) by bendel.debian.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D507E20160 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 13:40:05 + (UTC) Received: from erode.bofh.it (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by erode.bofh.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD584907E04 for ; Mon, 22 Feb 2021 14:40:02 +0100 (CET) > > By the way, > > the site news.bofh.it/erode.bofh.it 's gateway scripts > > rewrite the "In-Reply-To" and "References" header > > values(x...@gated-at.bofh.it), > > breaking mail reader's threading. > > > > I regret this, if true, but have no control over it (other than using > news.free.fr, the newserver of my ISP, which is and was my intention > (but to which some posts never seem to arrive)). > The server news.bofh.it / erode.bofh.it rewrites "Message-ID" field value, which it should't as it breaks message threading. -- kevin
Re: Conflicting alternatives
On 2021-02-22, Kevin Shell wrote: >> >> Maybe it's some problem specific to news.free.fr. >> > > How the two sites news.bofh.it/erode.bofh.it news.free.fr are connected? > Is news.bofh.it feeding articles to news.free.fr? They are not connected. > By the way, > the site news.bofh.it/erode.bofh.it 's gateway scripts > rewrite the "In-Reply-To" and "References" header > values(x...@gated-at.bofh.it), > breaking mail reader's threading. > I regret this, if true, but have no control over it (other than using news.free.fr, the newserver of my ISP, which is and was my intention (but to which some posts never seem to arrive)).
Re: AD user can't ssh in
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 5:09 PM Kent West wrote: Brand new Debian box (tried Buster, then when that didn;' work, upgraded tp unstable - meh, it's a test box to get things sorted out before production use). Minimal setup (unchecked everything in TaskSel step during install; later used TaskSel to add X11/Mate). su'd to root apt install'd aptitude, realmd, packagekit (packagekit grabbed the needed dependencies, such as sssd and samba (at least parts of them, and maybe part of KRB5 (the keytab thing-y), and [mostly] configured them) Ran "realm join MY.DOMAIN -U my_add-to-domain_user" getent passwd domain_user successfully returns data on the domain user: acutech@21260-debianvm:~$ getent passwd glerp@my.domain glerp@my.domain:*:495633057:495600513:glerp:/home/glerp@my.domain:/bin/bash But the domain user can't log in via ssh (a local user can ssh in). techman@21260-debianvm:~$ ssh -l glerp@my.domain 21260-debianvm glerp@my.domain@21260-debianvm's password: Connection closed by 127.0.1.1 port 22 Here are a few relevant lines from /var/log/auth.log: Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_unix(sshd:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:auth): authentication success; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=127.0.0.1 user=glerp@my.domain Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: pam_sss(sshd:account): Access denied for user glerp@my.domain: 6 (Permission denied) Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: Failed password for glerp@my.domain from 127.0.0.1 port 59998 ssh2 Feb 21 17:04:54 21260-debianvm sshd[5284]: fatal: Access denied for user glerp@my.domain by PAM account configuration [preauth] So I think what this is telling you is that authentication succeeded for the "auth" clause in the "sshd" section of the PAM config file (pam_sss). But then authentication failed in the "account" clause of the sshd section. So the question is why there?
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 06:04:15AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format.
> How do I view it?
> I installed troffcvt but its man-page is non-informative.
> TIA
Feel free to use my script to do that, below.
ps_print is another script that send to my printer.
#!/bin/ksh
# Format up a man page, the file name is the argument
# ADDW, July 1999
progname=$0
Usage() {
cat <<-!
Process a file with the man macros.
Usage: $0 [opts] [file]
-p generate (Postscript) output to current printer
-x eXplain
!
exit $1
}
Postscript=0
while getopts px arg
do case "$arg" in
p) Postscript=1;;
x) Usage 0;;
esac
done
shift $((OPTIND - 1))
if [ $# -eq 0 ]
thenecho "Usage: $0 filename" >&2
exit 2
fi
if [ $Postscript = 1 ]
thengroff -man -etpsR -rO0.75i -rW6.5i -rL11i $o $1 | ps_print
elsetbl $1 | nroff -man | col | less
fi
--
Alain Williams
Linux/GNU Consultant - Mail systems, Web sites, Networking, Programmer, IT
Lecturer.
+44 (0) 787 668 0256 https://www.phcomp.co.uk/
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https://www.phcomp.co.uk/Contact.html
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Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
On 02/22/2021 06:08 AM, The Wanderer wrote: On 2021-02-22 at 07:04, Richard Owlett wrote: I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format. How do I view it? The naive approach would be to try: $ man -l /path/to/man-page-file There are probably other ways, but since this is specifically a man page, that'd be my first attempt. Worked like a charm. *THANK YOU* As the file was large I did $ man -l /path/to/man-page-file > /path/to/my-reference-copy
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 07:08:12AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > On 2021-02-22 at 07:04, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format. > > How do I view it? > > The naive approach would be to try: > > $ man -l /path/to/man-page-file > > There are probably other ways, but since this is specifically a man > page, that'd be my first attempt. > nroff -man /path/to/nrofffile [...] | less -R -- kevin
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
On 2021-02-22 at 07:04, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format. > How do I view it? The naive approach would be to try: $ man -l /path/to/man-page-file There are probably other ways, but since this is specifically a man page, that'd be my first attempt. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: How to view a troff formatted file?
* On 2021 22 Feb 06:04 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format. > How do I view it? Do you have the man program installed? > I installed troffcvt but its man-page is non-informative. I've used 'man ./filename.man' for a troff file formatted with the man macro set. This forces the man program to look at the path spec and not its database. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
How to view a troff formatted file?
I have downloaded a program with a man-page in troff format. How do I view it? I installed troffcvt but its man-page is non-informative. TIA
Re: shadowy, sort of fly by night debian mirrors? ...
Hi Albrecht, On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 03:50:01AM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote: > Andy Smith wrote: > > Those SHA1 hashes do appear here on another mirror: > > > > http://mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/10.8.0/amd64/iso-dvd/SHA1SUMS […] > I would expect for that string to appear on a few mirrors at least. I just showed you exactly where the hashes for the ISO files are on one mirror, I assume they are in the same place on every other mirror. You have not yet explained how come you show hashes with mismatched file names - whether that was a simple error on your side while composing the email or something you actually downloaded from the Debian mirror. > Also, hy ere their servers not producing any server side logs? I am unable to parse the question as my understanding of what "server side logs" means can't possibly line up with yours. Please elaborate. Cheers, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
Re: Conflicting alternatives
On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:18:36AM -, Curt wrote: > On 2021-02-22, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > I'm not aware of doing anything special, just reply-to-list (Cc'd you on=20 > > this message though). > > > > Is it only my messages you are missing? > > > > You do appear here on the gmane server, but remain MIA on news.free.fr. > > Maybe it's some problem specific to news.free.fr. > How the two sites news.bofh.it/erode.bofh.it news.free.fr are connected? Is news.bofh.it feeding articles to news.free.fr? By the way, the site news.bofh.it/erode.bofh.it 's gateway scripts rewrite the "In-Reply-To" and "References" header values(x...@gated-at.bofh.it), breaking mail reader's threading. > -- kevin
Re: Conflicting alternatives
On Mon, 22 Feb 2021, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 21 feb 21, 16:23:31, Curt wrote: On 2021-02-21, David Wright wrote: The Mail Transport Agent Switcher. Almost sounds like a name invented by the marketing department. Anyway, I guess the MTAS is irrelevant because we're not concerned with Fedora here. But I suppose its existence proves its usefulness---or maybe the word is practicality---at least for Fedora users. I think Andrei answered it in the third post of the thread: "Installing and removing/purging packages has traditionally been very easy in Debian, such a mechanism would have limited benefits for significant added complexity." For some reason his posts never seem to make it through to my news server. Maybe there exists a special switch he toggles on or something. I'm not aware of doing anything special, just reply-to-list (Cc'd you on this message though). I received this in my free.fr inbox but don't see it on my free.fr news server. Is it only my messages you are missing? I think I also noticed Nicholas Georges' posts as being missing on news.free.fr. There may, of course, be others. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser
Re: Conflicting alternatives
On 2021-02-22, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > I'm not aware of doing anything special, just reply-to-list (Cc'd you on=20 > this message though). > > Is it only my messages you are missing? > You do appear here on the gmane server, but remain MIA on news.free.fr. Maybe it's some problem specific to news.free.fr.
Re: Missing memory and the mystery of MTRRs
I have seen a few systems (such as HP Proliant servers) where you need to populate the DIMM slots in order, or it won't necessarily see all the RAM. Wonder if thats the problem. Back to lurking/clearing my E-mail backlog. Paul. On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 16:06, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Sat, 13 Feb 2021, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > > [This would probably be an FAQ if I knew the proper incantation...] > > Well, sorta > > > I realized recently that a box I've been running for a while isn't seeing > > all of its installed memory. The BIOS screens indicate that 8GB is > > installed, but Debian (recently upgraded to Buster) only sees a bit over > > 3GB. > > > > cjg@dragon:~$ head -1 /proc/meminfo > > MemTotal:3331096 kB > > > > During boot I noticed the following message: > > > > [0.012080] WARNING: BIOS bug: CPU MTRRs don't cover all of memory, > > losing 4800MB of RAM. > > 1. UPDATE THE BIOS (UEFI), really. > > 2. Once it is up-to-date, review BIOS settings. You might have > something strange in there. Check stuff like "memory window", anything > that make mentions to "hole" (PCI, memory, etc), and memory set aside > for GPUs, etc. > > Maybe reset BIOS/UEFI to defaults, and change one setting at a time > until it is back the way you want it, to isolate what setting might be > causing it. -- be careful to ensure the boot stuff is correct for what > you need, though. Copy the settings you have to paper before you reset. > > Only if all else fails, you try the kernel command line switches to mess > with this :-( > > > Is there some sort of HOWTO that covers this stuff? Where do I go from > > here? > > Try fixing the real problem first (whatever is making your BIOS set > these incorrectly). Your system might become quite unpredictable > otherwise, depending on the reason these MTRRs are set like that. > > -- > Henrique Holschuh > > -- *Paul Duncan* Lead Marine Technician, RV Falkor SCHMIDT OCEAN INSTITUTE mobile +1 650 387 4151 VOIP +1 954 672 4943 www.schmidtocean.org Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Google+ *This email message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged* *information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you have received it in* *error, please advise the sender by reply email and delete the message and any attachments. Thank you.*
Re: shadowy, sort of fly by night debian mirrors? ...
On Lu, 22 feb 21, 03:50:01, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> 7) the md5 and sha1 hashes that I computed could not be found online > >> > >> 0296cfbeaf3823055901d7ad2077a077 > >> 0b742d83d23207db9a24553100d4155eb8c701bf debian > >> 10.8.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso > >> 37baf26293b8132fe95b4bd19262ca6b > >> 122a2612ed63ff89db56eec0765e87268bf72318 debian > >> 10.8.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso > > > > Those SHA1 hashes do appear here on another mirror: > > > > > > http://mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/10.8.0/amd64/iso-dvd/SHA1SUMS > > Maybe, as you say that is happening to me because I am an allien. > That explains it all: Yet, in my searches google as telling me such > strings couldn't be found: > > https://www.google.com/search?&q=2612ed63ff89db56eec0765e87268bf72318 > > Your search - 2612ed63ff89db56eec0765e87268bf72318 - did not match > any documents. > > I would expect for that string to appear on a few mirrors at least. Why do you expect that string to show in search engines? > Also, hy ere their servers not producing any server side logs? Why should any server side logs be accessible to the public? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Conflicting alternatives
On Du, 21 feb 21, 16:23:31, Curt wrote: > On 2021-02-21, David Wright wrote: > >> > >> The Mail Transport Agent Switcher. Almost sounds like a name invented by > >> the marketing department. Anyway, I guess the MTAS is irrelevant because > >> we're not concerned with Fedora here. But I suppose its existence proves > >> its usefulness---or maybe the word is practicality---at least for > >> Fedora users. > > > > I think Andrei answered it in the third post of the thread: > > > > "Installing and removing/purging packages has traditionally been very > > easy in Debian, such a mechanism would have limited benefits for > > significant added complexity." > > For some reason his posts never seem to make it through to my news > server. Maybe there exists a special switch he toggles on or something. I'm not aware of doing anything special, just reply-to-list (Cc'd you on this message though). Is it only my messages you are missing? Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: shadowy, sort of fly by night debian mirrors? ...
>> 7) the md5 and sha1 hashes that I computed could not be found online >> >> 0296cfbeaf3823055901d7ad2077a077 >> 0b742d83d23207db9a24553100d4155eb8c701bf debian >> 10.8.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso >> 37baf26293b8132fe95b4bd19262ca6b >> 122a2612ed63ff89db56eec0765e87268bf72318 debian >> 10.8.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso > > Those SHA1 hashes do appear here on another mirror: > > > http://mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/10.8.0/amd64/iso-dvd/SHA1SUMS Maybe, as you say that is happening to me because I am an allien. That explains it all: Yet, in my searches google as telling me such strings couldn't be found: https://www.google.com/search?&q=2612ed63ff89db56eec0765e87268bf72318 Your search - 2612ed63ff89db56eec0765e87268bf72318 - did not match any documents. I would expect for that string to appear on a few mirrors at least. Also, hy ere their servers not producing any server side logs? lbrtchx
