problem with debian

2021-04-29 Thread Andrei Nae
Hi, I have a debien OS installed on VMware. When i do the command nano 
/etc/apt/sources.list, I don’t have the debian.map.fastlydns.net written in the 
file but as soon as I try to do apt update it tells me that 
debian.map.fastlydns.net can’t be reached.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



Command not found not working on kali linux

2021-04-29 Thread Xhorium Tech
OBTAINING FOLLOWING PROBLEM

command-not-found version: 0.3
Python version: 3.9.1 final 0
Distributor ID: Kali
Description:Kali GNU/Linux Rolling
Release:2021.1
Codename:   kali-rolling
Exception information:

unable to open database file
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/util.py", line 23, in
crash_guard
callback()
  File "/usr/lib/command-not-found", line 90, in main
cnf = CommandNotFound.CommandNotFound(options.data_dir)
  File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/CommandNotFound.py",
line 79, in __init__
self.db = SqliteDatabase(dbpath)
  File "/usr/share/command-not-found/CommandNotFound/db/db.py", line 12, in
__init__
self.con = sqlite3.connect(filename)
sqlite3.OperationalError: unable to open database file


Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-29 Thread David Wright
On Wed 28 Apr 2021 at 18:21:27 (+), Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> Now it works: 
> 
> $ ecasound -a:1,2,3 -i:sndfile,3canali.wav -o alsaplugin,2,0
> **
> *ecasound v2.9.1 (C) 1997-2014 Kai Vehmanen and others
> **
> (eca-chainsetup) Chainsetup "untitled-chainsetup"
> (eca-chainsetup) NOTE: Real-time configuration, but insufficient privileges
> ... to utilize real-time scheduling (SCHED_FIFO). With small buffersizes,
> ... this may cause audible glitches during processing.
> (eca-chainsetup) "rt" buffering mode selected.
> (audioio_sndfile) Using libsndfile to open file "3canali.wav" for reading.
> (eca-chainsetup) NOTE: using existing audio parameters -f:s16_le,3,48000
> ... for object 'sndfile' (tried to open with -f:s16_le,2,44100).
> (eca-chainsetup) Opened input "sndfile", mode "read". Format: s16_le,
> ... channels 3, srate 48000, interleaved (locked params).
> (eca-chainsetup) Opened output "alsaplugin", mode "write". Format: s16_le,
> ... channels 2, srate 48000, interleaved.
> - [ Connected chainsetup: "untitled-chainsetup" ] 
> - [ Controller/Starting batch processing ] ---
> - [ Engine - Driver start ] --
> 
> - [ Engine - Processing finished ] ---
> - [ Controller/Batch processing finished (0) ] ---
> - [ Controller/Processing stopped (cond) ] ---
> - [ Engine exiting ] -
> (eca-control-objects) Disconnecting chainsetup:  "untitled-chainsetup".

> Let's try to go to problem 2).

It's difficult to know what you've actually done from this description.
I know nothing about the UMC404HD apart from the two downloaded PDFs,
8849567252510.pdf and download_259085.pdf. I know nothing about Ecasound.

Let me first reveal my ignorance by asking: does Ecasound run on your
computer, or on the Behringer?

I'm going to assume the former, that you're playing a file on the
computer in Ecasound, which then enters the Behringer via the USB
connection.

> The above command properly sends channel 1 to
> loudspeaker 1 and channel 2 to loudspeaker 2, but it doesn't manage to send
> channel 3 into loudspeaker 3.

How are these loudspeakers connected to the Behringer: which type of
connectors are used, in which sockets, and what's the pinout at each
end of the cables? What type of input do these loudspeakers expect
to be driven by: presumably not an unbalanced 50W into 8Ω!

> Actually, the Behringer seems to behave in
> stereo mode.

Do you mean that all three channels have been mixed into two channels,
and this is what you hear on your loudspeakers 1 and 2?

Isn't that what these lines might indicate:

> (eca-chainsetup) Opened input "sndfile", mode "read". Format: s16_le,
> ... channels 3, srate 48000, interleaved (locked params).
   ↑
> (eca-chainsetup) Opened output "alsaplugin", mode "write". Format: s16_le,
> ... channels 2, srate 48000, interleaved.
   ↑

Then the two channels exit the computer through:

 2 [U192k  ]: USB-Audio - UMC404HD 192k
  BEHRINGER UMC404HD 192k at usb-:00:12.0-1.2, high 
speed

as channels 1 and 2.

(I told you I was ignorant.)

> But the strange thing is that outputs `B' (i.e. 3 and 4) do not
> work at all and seems to be dead.  So please help: how can I - if ever 
> possible
> - send channel 3 to loudspeaker 3?  And, more in general: is it possible, even
> with some other device, to achive what I want?

I can only guess, because I know so little about the Behringer.
Here are questions I'd want to find the answers to by experimentation.

Your sound source is the computer?
Do the three channels become "inputs", controlled by those Gain knobs,
or do those only function with instruments/microphones (plugged in).
Do any of the SIG LEDs light up?
What's the effect of the Stereo/Mono button on your sound channels?
What's the effect of rotating the Mix (IN/PB) knob?
Are you also monitoring through the headphones? If so, what's the
effect of MONITOR A/B?
I won't ask about the Inserts, unless you say you're using them.

OK, my guess is that you're feeding the Behringer with two sound
channels, mixed by Ecasound on your computer, into its 1 and 2,
and that's what you're hearing played.  Your feedback might
completely change my mind.

BTW would it help to see what the output of

$ amixer -c 2 scontents

shows, ie the capabilities of the USB sound card. It sould be more
informative than   cat /proc/asound/cards.

Cheers,
David.



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Kushal Kumaran
On Thu, Apr 29 2021 at 06:57:02 PM, Linux-Fan  wrote:
> Michael Grant writes:
>
>> I saw in the last 6 months a daemon that let you get oauth tokens on
>> linux and then it refereshed the token indefinitely until told to
>> stop.  Essentially making the token available on linux so you could
>> use it in another program that requied a password, for example
>> fetchmail or getmail.
>>
>> I've tried to find it but I'm turning up nothing.  I'm pretty sure I
>> didn't imagine it!  Does anyone recall the name?  This could
>> definitely be helpful for fetching mail from an account with oauth
>> setup.
>
> I do not know about a daemon, but `oathtool` (package `oathtool`) does a
> fine job for TOTP based tokens here. Usage:
>
>   $ oathtool --base32 JBSWY3DPEHPK3PXP
>   282760
>
> Of course, you will need to get the Base32 secret from somewhere. It can
> often be accessed from the screens that tell you to scan a QR code with an
> authenticator app if you press something like "I cannot scan the code" or
> such.
>

oauth is not the same as oath

-- 
regards,
kushal



Re: Is there any way to snoop on a USB port?

2021-04-29 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
"Martin McCormick"  writes:

> I have a Windows box that has software on it which programs
> two-way radios and it would be nice to know what the radio and
> computer are saying to each other.
>
>   After trying a Windows application that reportedly can
> capture serial port traffic, I find that it doesn't appear to
> work with usb ports and unix/linux is my preferred world anyway
> so is there any sort of hardware that would pass through a USB
> connection from the Windows box to the radio and let me siphon
> off the traffic to a linux system and log it?
>
>   The Windows app I tried to use has been around for a
> decade or more and probably works well with RS-232 ports but the
> traffic I need to grab comes from a usb device that creates
> /dev/ttyACM0 if plugged in to a Linux box and comm2 on the
> Windows system
>
>   When I tried it today, it did nothing but complain that
> it was not connected.  It finally dawned on me that it probably
> sees no serial ports at all as it is supposed to automatically
> find and log all port I/O and this is a relatively new HP
> Pavilion desktop computer which has no native RS-232 ports or
> parallel ports on it and, even if it did, the connection from the
> radio to the usb port is a usb plug with the usb hardware in it
> and a cable that plugs in to the radio that would most likely
> not be practical to tap.

First, I assume the software isn't CHIRP, since that also runs under
Linux (and is open source besides).

When I faced a similar problem (reverse engineering the protocol used to
talk to a hobby rocket altimeter), I put Windows on a virtualbox VM on
my Linux machine, and then used wireshark to watch the protocol.



Re: Is there any way to snoop on a USB port?

2021-04-29 Thread Jeremy Ardley


On 30/4/21 10:12 am, Martin McCormick wrote:

I have a Windows box that has software on it which programs
two-way radios and it would be nice to know what the radio and
computer are saying to each other.

After trying a Windows application that reportedly can
capture serial port traffic, I find that it doesn't appear to
work with usb ports and unix/linux is my preferred world anyway
so is there any sort of hardware that would pass through a USB
connection from the Windows box to the radio and let me siphon
off the traffic to a linux system and log it?

The Windows app I tried to use has been around for a
decade or more and probably works well with RS-232 ports but the
traffic I need to grab comes from a usb device that creates
/dev/ttyACM0 if plugged in to a Linux box and comm2 on the
Windows system

When I tried it today, it did nothing but complain that
it was not connected.  It finally dawned on me that it probably
sees no serial ports at all as it is supposed to automatically
find and log all port I/O and this is a relatively new HP
Pavilion desktop computer which has no native RS-232 ports or
parallel ports on it and, even if it did, the connection from the
radio to the usb port is a usb plug with the usb hardware in it
and a cable that plugs in to the radio that would most likely
not be practical to tap.

Thanks for any good thoughts.

Martin  WB5AGZ



Wireshark. https://www.wireshark.org/

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Is there any way to snoop on a USB port?

2021-04-29 Thread Martin McCormick
I have a Windows box that has software on it which programs
two-way radios and it would be nice to know what the radio and
computer are saying to each other.

After trying a Windows application that reportedly can
capture serial port traffic, I find that it doesn't appear to
work with usb ports and unix/linux is my preferred world anyway
so is there any sort of hardware that would pass through a USB
connection from the Windows box to the radio and let me siphon
off the traffic to a linux system and log it?

The Windows app I tried to use has been around for a
decade or more and probably works well with RS-232 ports but the
traffic I need to grab comes from a usb device that creates
/dev/ttyACM0 if plugged in to a Linux box and comm2 on the
Windows system

When I tried it today, it did nothing but complain that
it was not connected.  It finally dawned on me that it probably
sees no serial ports at all as it is supposed to automatically
find and log all port I/O and this is a relatively new HP
Pavilion desktop computer which has no native RS-232 ports or
parallel ports on it and, even if it did, the connection from the
radio to the usb port is a usb plug with the usb hardware in it
and a cable that plugs in to the radio that would most likely
not be practical to tap.

Thanks for any good thoughts.

Martin  WB5AGZ



Re: Installing Debian from a hard disk with Windows to a USB stick

2021-04-29 Thread Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
El mar, 27 abr 2021 a las 15:11, Brian () escribió:
>
> "Umm, well" is hardly an adequate reponse to Andrei POPESCU's
> suggestion. If you are waiting for someone like me to step up,
> you will be waiting a long time.
>
> Users employ the wiki to write what they feel comfortable about,
> not to act as a proxy for someone else's thoughts and writing.

Yes sir, you're right.  I'm sorry, I was not clear when I wrote
my message.  I do plan to repost it by myself at the wiki,
but it won't be in the near future.  I just wanted to see if someone
else could get it there sooner than me, so I would benefit more
people right now.

I won't be waiting for someone else, it is just that I can't do it
for now.  But thanks for your advice.

Have a nice day everyone.

PS: I forgot to send this message to the list.
-- 
Time zone: GMT-4



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote:

> 'No, no,' said the academics, 'the whole world uses Windows 3 so we
> have to teach that.'

... because they were payed/bribed/lobbied or just fools

BTW it is still the same and it became even worse and no one is doing
anything.
Some 15y ago there were ideas to use open source in the public
administration and the schools. What happened with that? Oh, yes, Microsoft
offered very good conditions ... yes. Then those politicians, free thinkers
etc. stopped talking about opensource and the idea died slowly in the
shadow of 9/11, 2008 Lehman Bros etc.

Lets admit it ... the goal is to shovel the money to (mostly) US
corporations that do not pay any taxes anywhere, to educate the children to
be slaves of the corporations and to consume as much as possible.




Re: No puedo ver el usb en dolphin con debian 11 kde

2021-04-29 Thread Germán Avendaño Ramírez
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 04:27:02PM +0200, Camaleón wrote:
> El 2021-04-29 a las 10:48 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
> > 
> > Ingreso un pen drive usb y no me lo muestra en dolphin. No sale ni el nombre
> > de la unidad. Ingreso con GPARTED y veo que el usb está.
> > 
> > Que puede estar pasando?

Cordial saludo

En mi equipo de uso frecuente, tengo instalado debian mínimo con 
openbox. Uso  el comando "lsblk" para saber como identifica el sistema a 
la unidad usb y luego uso

udisksctl mount /dev/sd**

para montarlas. Para ejecutar la última orden, debe tener instalado el 
paquete "udisks2".

Atentamente,

-- 
Mancho



Re: Re: Disinuir tamaño de letra en la terminal

2021-04-29 Thread Aristobulo_Pinzón
Gracias por respondes.
No señor el entorno gráfico está bien.  Y la pregunta estuvo mal hecha; no es 
en la terminal sino en las consola; cuando uno quiere salir del entorno gráfico 
a una tty. Las fuentes se ven muy grandes y pareciera que no hay pequeñas.



Re: Disinuir tamaño de letra en la terminal

2021-04-29 Thread Raúl Armenta
El jue., 29 abr. 2021 20:30, Aristobulo_Pinzón 
escribió:

> Buenas tard/ias...
> Con ésto de las paantallas grandes trabajar en la terinal se hace incomodo
> con los caracteres de gran tamaño que se utilizan en el inicio.
> Cuál script es el encargado de regular el tamaño para ajustarlo a menor?.
> O algún otro atajo que lo permita!...
> Muchas gracias!...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



 Usas algún programa emulador de terminal?

Estás sin entorno gráfico?

Un saludo,

Noseasasi.


Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Brian
On Thu 29 Apr 2021 at 21:48:29 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 08:42:17PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 29 Apr 2021 at 14:21:22 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > BTW I'm not really a luddite [1]. I'd consider a smart phone if I
> > > had a comparable control over its guts as I have of my laptop, take
> > > or give. Those options are, alas, a tad to pricey for my current
> > > income.
> > 
> > I inagine you might feel the same way about tvs and washing machines.
> 
> Kind of. I made a point of buying a non-smart TV (our old one gave
> up -- conveniently -- at a time where non-smart TVs could be had
> at a discount :-)

With one bound he was free! :)

-- 
Brian.



Re: disque dur externe se coupe tout seul

2021-04-29 Thread Haricophile
Le Thu, 29 Apr 2021 20:48:26 +0200,
Gaëtan Perrier  a écrit :

> Auriez-vous déjà rencontré ce phénomène ?

Un problème de température ? quand j'écris beaucoup sur un disque
externe, je mets un peu de ventilation (pas besoin de beaucoup).



Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
> I haven't seen anyone mention apt-offline in this thread, so I will
> mention it now:
>
>apt-offline is an Offline APT Package Manager.
>.
>apt-offline can fully update and upgrade an APT based distribution
>without connecting to the network, all of it transparent to APT.
>.
>apt-offline can be used to generate a signature on a machine (with
>no network).  This signature contains all download information
>required for the APT database system. This signature file can be
>used on another machine connected to the internet (which need not be
>a Debian box and can even be running windows) to download the
>updates.  The downloaded data will contain all updates in a format
>understood by APT and this data can be used by apt-offline to update
>the non-networked machine.
>.
>apt-offline can also fetch bug reports and make them available
>offline.
>Homepage: https://github.com/rickysarraf/apt-offline
>
> I have no experience using it.  Looks to me like for buster you need
> to get it from backports.


 thank you very much. I see myself using it intensively to deal with
my kinds of problems.
 the best guideline I found at:

 
https://sleeplessbeastie.eu/2014/01/30/how-to-manage-packages-on-an-off-line-debian-system/

 about the alpha-offset encoding, please, givie me some time to answer
your questions, write up the idea more fully, clearly and I think we
should probably start a new thread to discuss it

 lbrtchx



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 08:42:17PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 29 Apr 2021 at 14:21:22 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > BTW I'm not really a luddite [1]. I'd consider a smart phone if I
> > had a comparable control over its guts as I have of my laptop, take
> > or give. Those options are, alas, a tad to pricey for my current
> > income.
> 
> I inagine you might feel the same way about tvs and washing machines.

Kind of. I made a point of buying a non-smart TV (our old one gave
up -- conveniently -- at a time where non-smart TVs could be had
at a discount :-)

Cheers
 - t


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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 08:35:40PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 17:45:58 +0200
> to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

[academia]

> > They are supposed to lead the way to the Light :)
> > 
> > It's their job. Or something.
> > 
> 
> Sadly, no. It's not something new: back in the early 90s, Acorn was
> trying to sell the Archimedes (British made, with a 32 bit ARM
> processor) to schools and universities.
> 
> 'No, no,' said the academics, 'the whole world uses Windows 3 so we
> have to teach that.'

Well, I consider it as my part of a job as a taxpayer to raise a
stink about this from time to time ;-D

Cheers
 - t


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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Brian
On Thu 29 Apr 2021 at 14:21:22 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> BTW I'm not really a luddite [1]. I'd consider a smart phone if I
> had a comparable control over its guts as I have of my laptop, take
> or give. Those options are, alas, a tad to pricey for my current
> income.

I inagine you might feel the same way about tvs and washing machines.

-- 
Brian.



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Joe
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 17:45:58 +0200
to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 04:39:06PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 16:43, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:  
> > > Judging by your mail address, you are in academia. This is doubly
> > > sad.  
> > 
> > My experience is that academic institutions are no different than
> > any other organization in these regards.  For better or for worse.  
> 
> They are supposed to lead the way to the Light :)
> 
> It's their job. Or something.
> 

Sadly, no. It's not something new: back in the early 90s, Acorn was
trying to sell the Archimedes (British made, with a 32 bit ARM
processor) to schools and universities.

'No, no,' said the academics, 'the whole world uses Windows 3 so we
have to teach that.'

Of course, hindsight showed that when Windows 95 appeared a couple of
years later, it had a look and feel far more similar to RiscOs on the
Archimedes than it did to Win3, which was just a graphics shell bolted
onto single-user DOS. By the time most of these students left school and
university, Win3 had gone the way of the dodo.

A little further thought would have shown that students being taught
at that time (and ever since) would go on to spend their entire lives
adapting to newer and shinier IT systems and learning how to operate
new software every few years, so some diversity at an early age would
have been of more benefit than a monoculture.

-- 
Joe



Imprimir en google chrome

2021-04-29 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano

Hola amigos.

Quiero imprimir en una impresora en google chrome y al presionar CTRL+P 
no aparece, pero al apretar CTRL+ALT+P si imprime.


La verdad que no es una complicación, pero algo debe pasar para que no 
funcione correctamente.


Uso Debian 11 kde

En firefox funciona perfecto con CTRL+P



Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-29 Thread David Wright
On Thu 29 Apr 2021 at 11:33:29 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 29, 2021 09:03:59 AM Albretch Mueller wrote:
> > > What is "alpha-offset format"?
> > 
> >  we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of
> > files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basically an
> > Americanizierung of alle alphabets.

"Americanizierung" merely seems an odd way of saying that UTF8 favours
the Roman alphabet in terms of the length of encoded strings.

> > UTF is great to describe an
> > alphabet but not for text files.

Are we now discussing non-alphabetic scripts? Beats me.

> >  UTF8 turned all files into streams not good for questions such as
> > what is the charatcer/string sequence starting on the nth addressable
> > unit of a file ...

It's very good for such questions, because it is unambiguous whether
the nth addressable unit (let's say byte) is the start of a character
or not. When it /is/ the start of a character, the number of bytes in
the character is given by at most 1–5 bits of that first byte, so you
don't have to hunt for some kind of terminating byte.

> >  Doing that with utF8 is from way too complicated to impossible.

OTOH it's not straightforward to determine at which byte does the
nth character start. Perhaps that is what you meant to say.

> > Also
> > alpha offset nicely splits the files segments into its different
> > parts: ALPHABETICAL text, js, css, ...

I'd be interested to see examples of JavaScript and Cascading Style
Sheets written in non-ALPHABETICAL text.

> Ok, but what does it look like?  (What is the format?)
> 
> A google search shows only links to this thread and some page about its 
> relevance to aiming a telescope -- I strongly suspect that is not relevant to 
> your use case.

Whatever it is is not well described by that post, but perhaps
better by (e.1.2) immediately following it.

>From the context, alpha-offset format sounds like jargon for what
html2text does with a web page, which is to separate the text you
want to read from all the interspersed code that controls how it
would be displayed by a browser.

That text¹, in whatever encoding, and now called "corpora", could be
analysed as part of someone's corpus linguistics research.

The major problem that seems to be exercising this thread at this
point is that the OP needs to swallow scads of documents, some, many,
perhaps most of which are on the web, but process them on a computer
that has never been connected to the internet.

Some of us, decades ago, were coping with this problem, as it applies
to the software, in the days before Debian's tools had evolved to the
functionality they now have. These tools seem to have been overlooked.

And so we have discussions of removing networking from the kernel,
redesigning apt using java, and de-americanising unicode, all
closely monitored, keystroke by keystroke, by NSAs around the world.
Typical debian-user, eh? Did we ever decide which meaning of MSI
applied for explaining the quirk in the subject line? Perhaps
Randolph Quirk would coincidentally have held an opinion.

¹ I assume a similar treatment is meted out to PDFs, and the cache
of videos is fed into a speech analyser, all to add to the mountain
of text.

Cheers,
David.



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread deloptes
Darac Marjal wrote:

> Ask your administrator to enable "Per Application Passwords" -

The admin says "F**k off" :D



disque dur externe se coupe tout seul

2021-04-29 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Bonjour,

Je viens de changer un de mes disques de sauvegardes par un modèle plus gros
dans un boitier Advance 3.5" connecté en USB3 avec alim externe.
Ma sauvegarde est faite par rsync et mon problème est que le disque s'éteint
tout seul en cours de sauvegarde ...

Auriez-vous déjà rencontré ce phénomène ?

Gaëtan


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Buster 10.9 No reconoce impresora.

2021-04-29 Thread Aristobulo_Pinzón
Buenas tardes.
No se por que razón debian dejo de reconocer la impresora en la versión 10.9…
Presenta el siguiente error:

sudo hp-setup
[sudo] password for todos: 

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.18.12)
Printer/Fax Setup Utility ver. 9.0

Copyright (c) 2001-15 HP Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
Searching... (bus=net, timeout=5, ttl=4, search=(None) desc=0, method=slp)
error: No devices found on bus: net
error:  HPLIP cannot detect printers in your network.  This may be due to 
existing firewall settings blocking the required ports.
When you are in a trusted network environment, you may open the 
ports for network services like mdns and slp in the firewall. For detailed 
steps follow the link.
 http://hplipopensource.com/node/374  

Otro error:
sudo hp-setup
[sudo] password for todos: 

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.18.12)
Printer/Fax Setup Utility ver. 9.0

Copyright (c) 2001-15 HP Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
Searching... (bus=usb, search=(None), desc=0)
error: No devices found on bus: usb

Y otro error que acostumbra presentar:
Searching on USB bus...
error: No devices found on bus: usb

Agradezco cualquier ayuda.
_ _ _ 



Disinuir tamaño de letra en la terminal

2021-04-29 Thread Aristobulo_Pinzón
Buenas tard/ias...
Con ésto de las paantallas grandes trabajar en la terinal se hace incomodo con 
los caracteres de gran tamaño que se utilizan en el inicio.
Cuál script es el encargado de regular el tamaño para ajustarlo a menor?. O 
algún otro atajo que lo permita!...
Muchas gracias!...



Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-29 Thread didier gaumet

Le 29/04/2021 à 14:56, Rodolfo Medina a écrit :
[...]

Actually I don't even know if that's ever
possible with Behringer or with any other device...


- What you want is to play multiple channels: of course it is possible. 
Surround sound is one of the use cases:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surround_sound
and it is commonly managed ("edited" is probably the correct word) on a DAW

- is it possible with your Behringer interface? As Jeremy Nicoll has 
judisciouly stated earlier, this interface is sold as a 4 inputs and 4 
outputs one (an information that I had overlooked), so I am almost sure 
it is possible (maybe I am wrong but Ias I see it, the only potential 
obstacle being limitations by the interface in certain use-cases and the 
need to do the routing on the PC)





Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Linux-Fan

Michael Grant writes:


I saw in the last 6 months a daemon that let you get oauth tokens on
linux and then it refereshed the token indefinitely until told to
stop.  Essentially making the token available on linux so you could
use it in another program that requied a password, for example
fetchmail or getmail.

I've tried to find it but I'm turning up nothing.  I'm pretty sure I
didn't imagine it!  Does anyone recall the name?  This could
definitely be helpful for fetching mail from an account with oauth
setup.


I do not know about a daemon, but `oathtool` (package `oathtool`) does a
fine job for TOTP based tokens here. Usage:

$ oathtool --base32 JBSWY3DPEHPK3PXP
282760

Of course, you will need to get the Base32 secret from somewhere. It can
often be accessed from the screens that tell you to scan a QR code with an
authenticator app if you press something like "I cannot scan the code" or
such.

HTH
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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 04:39:06PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 16:43, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > Judging by your mail address, you are in academia. This is doubly sad.
> 
> My experience is that academic institutions are no different than any
> other organization in these regards.  For better or for worse.

They are supposed to lead the way to the Light :)

It's their job. Or something.

Cheers
 - t


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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 16:43, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> Judging by your mail address, you are in academia. This is doubly sad.

My experience is that academic institutions are no different than any
other organization in these regards.  For better or for worse.

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Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-29 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, April 29, 2021 09:03:59 AM Albretch Mueller wrote:
> > What is "alpha-offset format"?
> 
>  we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of
> files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basically an
> Americanizierung of alle alphabets. UTF is great to describe an
> alphabet but not for text files.
> 
>  UTF8 turned all files into streams not good for questions such as
> what is the charatcer/string sequence starting on the nth addressable
> unit of a file ...
> 
>  Doing that with utF8 is from way too complicated to impossible. Also
> alpha offset nicely splits the files segments into its different
> parts: ALPHABETICAL text, js, css, ...

Ok, but what does it look like?  (What is the format?)

A google search shows only links to this thread and some page about its 
relevance to aiming a telescope -- I strongly suspect that is not relevant to 
your use case.



Re: Google vs. DDG

2021-04-29 Thread mick crane

On 2021-04-28 20:49, davidson wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 mick crane wrote:


I think Google tailors results according to what they know about you.
Even if you reset the router to a new IP and clear all the cookies 
they still seem to know. I've wondered if the browser has an 
identifying number.


Supplementing the observations made here by others, I suggest this
introductory reference on the topic:

 https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/about

  Cover Your Tracks is two things: a tool for users to understand how
  unique and identifiable their browser makes them online, and a
  research project to uncover the tools and techniques of online
  trackers and test the efficacy of privacy add-ons. Running tests on
  Cover Your Tracks gives you information about your own browser’s
  privacy protections, and also helps EFF use statistical methods to
  evaluate the capabilities of third-party trackers and the best forms
  of protection against them.


thanks
unique out of 136 thousand browsers which in itself is possibly 
identifying.


cheers
mick
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Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:03:04AM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:25:26 +0200
>  wrote:

> > [...no javaxcript]
> 
> I certainly agree with that goal, but I currently disable analytics via
> uBlock Origin, pi-hole, etc.) Disabling JS breaks a lot of (useful)
> stuff as collateral damage [...]

Yes, I do it as a kind of self-experiment. The way I go about it
is: my default browser profile has no javascript enabled (and no
cookies, BTW). For some (roughly 10) pages, I have a separate
profile. Two or three I care enough about, the rest is work-related.

When I'm curious about a page, sometimes I see "oh, it's a black
(or white) hole" -- the psychological interesting part is: is my
urge strong enough to set up a profile for that?

Most of the time, the answer is, luckily "No" :-)

Sometimes I get some quaint whining from the page "Ooooh, your
poor little browser does not support blah blah" with instructions
on how to enable javascript (which is even quainter, since these
days you have to be *very* determinate to disable javascript in
any browser, nearly criminally determinate ;-P

In the grand scheme of things. I'm trying to push out a bit
that date where web "designers" can count on everyone having
javascript. Tilting at windmills, but with pride :-)

Cheers
 - t


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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 02:14:12PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 09:03, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > I'm sure there are people within that department who would outlaw all
> > non-Windows desktops, if they could, because they don't control
> > them.  
> 
> I've been fighting this for 25+ years at my institution, using Linux
> throughout.  They've given up but the challenges continue: you must use
> Outlook, Word, ...  And now we have to use SharePoint and Teams and all
> these tools don't even talk to each other properly even though they come
> from the same vendor.  What a joke.

Judging by your mail address, you are in academia. This is doubly sad.

Cheers
 - t


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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 09:03:25AM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> > And to think that email was once a simple yet effective tool.  It's been
> > hijacked.
> 
> Spammers took control of it years ago.  It's been dying off, slowly.

I don't believe it's "just" spammers. While I don't believe either
that virus scanner vendors would write viruses themselves, they are
absolutely interested in some threat happening out there. Same with
those trying to push silos to replace e-mail.

Not to say that spam and malware is harmless. Just saying that business
is opportunistic, and as ethical as absolutely need be, not more --
it'd flounder otherwise.

> While we're swapping anecdotes, I'll give what limited insight I have
> into my own workplace's handling of email.  For starters, some of you
> may have noticed that I changed my email address on this mailing list.

[...]

I know that kind of drill. The way I survived was by having a ssh
connection to the outside. Once the whole department changed floors
and port 22 was closed. I just tunnelled over https [1] then. My
direct boss knew, she understood that I was infinitely more useful
like that and trusted me on not misusing things.

(I got scolded on this very list by someone for disclosing this:
must have been one of those authoritarian admins ;-)

Ultimately, that kind of thing is what drove me out of BigCorp.
Not being treated like a human just lowers my motivation by a
sizeable bit.

Cheers

[1] Just imagine the screaming when Internet banking stops
   working.  And the sec admins hadn't the stamina to play
   https man-in-the-middle

   How I did? Socat is wonderful :-)

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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Michael Grant
I saw in the last 6 months a daemon that let you get oauth tokens on
linux and then it refereshed the token indefinitely until told to
stop.  Essentially making the token available on linux so you could
use it in another program that requied a password, for example
fetchmail or getmail.

I've tried to find it but I'm turning up nothing.  I'm pretty sure I
didn't imagine it!  Does anyone recall the name?  This could
definitely be helpful for fetching mail from an account with oauth
setup.

Michael Grant


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Re: No puedo ver el usb en dolphin con debian 11 kde

2021-04-29 Thread Camaleón
El 2021-04-29 a las 10:48 -0300, Marcelo Eduardo Giordano escribió:
> 
> Ingreso un pen drive usb y no me lo muestra en dolphin. No sale ni el nombre
> de la unidad. Ingreso con GPARTED y veo que el usb está.
> 
> Que puede estar pasando?

Normalmente, los entornos de escritorio (KDE, GNOME, XFCE...) se 
encargan del automontaje de los dispositivos externos, con la venia del 
kernel, systemd y demás fauna.

Comprueba que tengas todos los paquetes necesarios instalados y que el 
explorador de archivos (Dolphin) esté configurado corractemante para el 
montaje de unidades externas.

No te sabría en KDE cuáles son los paquetes exactamente ni dónde mirar la 
configuración porque uso XFCE (Thunar). A ver si alguien te lo puede 
afinar un poco más :-)

Saludos,

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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:53:48PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> >> 2. txt message to your phone (so need not be "smart")
> >
> > You know those can be (and have been) hi-jacked, don't you?
> 
> Yeah. :-(
> 
> What really gets me is the hypocrisy of the whole situation.  I've been
> pushing to have people use public key encryption but they insist on
> sending emails with confidential information in plain text.  Oh, "MFA
> will make everything secure"...

Yes, but 2FA is just about getting the human factor out of the loop.
Put yourself into Google's or Facebook's shoes. All those users who
forget their passwords (or even worse, come up with easily guessable
ones, or use the same password across several services, yadda, yadda).

This is just support burden which diminishes margin. Now there would
be two ways out of that: educate your users or keep them dumb and
take them out of the loop. Which one aligns better with their business
plan? After all, for them "users" are turnips, potatos or cattle:
the product, not the customer.

> > I'm not very much into conspiracy theories [...]

> Everybody needs to be in those walled gardens: Facebook, et al. :-(

That's why I think that they /at least/ "let it happen happily".
Nudging it here and there would make even more sense, strategically.

Not poison the well to sell bottled water, but perhaps sliding
something disgusting in there, from time to time.

Cheers
 - t


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Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

2021-04-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Apr 2021 09:25:26 +0200
 wrote:

...

> Thetis seems to be paying for Google, in one currency or another. For
> one, fonts and jquery get downloaded directly from googleapis.com, so
> Big G gets a tug each time someone hits their page. Then, they embed
> Google analytics scripts in their page (one reason, BTW, why I insist
> in disabling javascript in my browser).

I certainly agree with that goal, but I currently disable analytics via
uBlock Origin, pi-hole, etc.) Disabling JS breaks a lot of (useful)
stuff as collateral damage (but you can always enable it on a
site-by-site basis, which I have to do with uBlock Origin anyway, since
it also breaks (in medium mode) a fair amount of the web).

Celejar



No puedo ver el usb en dolphin con debian 11 kde

2021-04-29 Thread Marcelo Eduardo Giordano

Amigos:

Ingreso un pen drive usb y no me lo muestra en dolphin. No sale ni el 
nombre de la unidad. Ingreso con GPARTED y veo que el usb está.


Que puede estar pasando?

Muchas gracias

MARCELO de Mendoza - Argentina



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 15:16, Erwan David wrote:
> You can define "application password" in O365 for this case (at least
> I can at work, may depends on the settings of your tenant)

Yes, thank you.  Somebody else has also pointed out this option.  I will
be looking into it as it seems like it will work.  Or I will switch to
davmail.  Solutions do seem to exist!

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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:38, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
>> 2. txt message to your phone (so need not be "smart")
>
> You know those can be (and have been) hi-jacked, don't you?

Yeah. :-(

What really gets me is the hypocrisy of the whole situation.  I've been
pushing to have people use public key encryption but they insist on
sending emails with confidential information in plain text.  Oh, "MFA
will make everything secure"...

> I'm not very much into conspiracy theories, but here, I'm convinced that
> the "big players" want to downright kill mail because there's no way
> for them to monetise it.

Everybody needs to be in those walled gardens: Facebook, et al. :-(

sigh.

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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:03, Darac Marjal wrote:
> Ask your administrator to enable "Per Application Passwords" -

Thank you.  I've looked at this and it looks feasible (if they enable
this which is unfortunately not very likely but still worth asking).

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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Erwan David

Le 29/04/2021 à 14:11, Eric S Fraga a écrit :

Dystopian is right.  Our organization, using O365, has moved to
"multi-factor authentication" without consultation and I can no longer
use gnus, for instance.  Absolutely horrible.



You can define "application password" in O365 for this case (at least I 
can at work, may depends on the settings of your tenant)




Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-29 Thread Darac Marjal

On 29/04/2021 14:03, Albretch Mueller wrote:
>> What is "alpha-offset format"?
>  we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of
> files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basically an
> Americanizierung of alle alphabets. UTF is great to describe an
> alphabet but not for text files.
>
>  UTF8 turned all files into streams not good for questions such as
> what is the charatcer/string sequence starting on the nth addressable
> unit of a file ...

Depends on what you mean by "addressable unit", surely? UTF8 is a
variable-length record format, but it's still addressable. Basically,
it's like taking a CSV file and saying "what's the contents of the cell
starting at byte 123"? CSV cells are variable length. Perhaps there
isn't such a cell. If you want to know the contents of the cell which
includes byte 123, then you need some context, don't you?

>
>  Doing that with utF8 is from way too complicated to impossible. Also
> alpha offset nicely splits the files segments into its different
> parts: ALPHABETICAL text, js, css, ...
So, do you use something more like UTF-32?
>
>  lbrtchx
>



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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 09:03, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I'm sure there are people within that department who would outlaw all
> non-Windows desktops, if they could, because they don't control
> them.  

I've been fighting this for 25+ years at my institution, using Linux
throughout.  They've given up but the challenges continue: you must use
Outlook, Word, ...  And now we have to use SharePoint and Teams and all
these tools don't even talk to each other properly even though they come
from the same vendor.  What a joke.

-- 
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Re: pci 0000:00:01:0: MSI quirk detected; subordinated MSI disabled ...

2021-04-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
> What is "alpha-offset format"?

 we, corpora research kinds of folks, need to process thousand of
files as other people process bytes. UTF8 was basically an
Americanizierung of alle alphabets. UTF is great to describe an
alphabet but not for text files.

 UTF8 turned all files into streams not good for questions such as
what is the charatcer/string sequence starting on the nth addressable
unit of a file ...

 Doing that with utF8 is from way too complicated to impossible. Also
alpha offset nicely splits the files segments into its different
parts: ALPHABETICAL text, js, css, ...

 lbrtchx



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Darac Marjal

On 29/04/2021 13:11, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Dystopian is right.  Our organization, using O365, has moved to
> "multi-factor authentication" without consultation and I can no longer
> use gnus, for instance.  Absolutely horrible.

Ask your administrator to enable "Per Application Passwords" -
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/user-help/multi-factor-authentication-end-user-app-passwords

The idea here is that, if a human is logging in, they still provide two
factors (something they know and something they have) via the TOTP
mechanism. But for automated access, where an application is logging in
on behalf of that user, the user generates a long one-off password ONLY
for that application. This works a bit like an API key - password #1 is
for gnus on laptop 1, password #2 is for Fetchmail on laptop 1, password
#3 is for gnus on laptop 2 and so on. Each instance of an application
gets its own long password.

It's ostensibly more secure than storing the user's password in that
application because:

* Per-App passwords are computer-generated. They can be tested for high
entropy and regenerated instantaneously, before a "good" password is
offered to the user. (I don't know whether this is actually done, or
whether it's just the output of a pRNG password generator)

* Per-App passwords can be revoked without spoiling access to other
applications. Did laptop 2 get stolen? Just revoke password #3 and you
don't need to change the passwords stored on Laptop 1.





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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> And to think that email was once a simple yet effective tool.  It's been
> hijacked.

Spammers took control of it years ago.  It's been dying off, slowly.

While we're swapping anecdotes, I'll give what limited insight I have
into my own workplace's handling of email.  For starters, some of you
may have noticed that I changed my email address on this mailing list.
This is because of policy changes at work that made it effectively
impossible for me to read technical emails via my previous address.
So now I'm subscribed from my personal address instead.  This will work
for me as long as I'm working primarily from home, under Covid rules.

Looking at the subject of this thread just makes me cringe inside,
because whoever is asking that question still has hope.  And that hope
is going to be crushed.

My workplace's official policy is that we are no longer allowed to have
an independent email service of our own.  Period.  Full stop.  All email
at work has to go through the corporate system, which is Microsoft.  No
exceptions.  We're not allowed to host mailboxes, we're not allowed to
receive email from the outside, and we're not allowed to send email
outside, unless it goes through their relays.

In order to continue reading debian-user at work, I would have to allow
its messages to be sent to Microsoft.  I would be reading them through
Outlook Web App.  I cannot accept this.  It's not tolerable.  So, I
unsubscribed from that address, and switched over to this one.

Some of you may be wondering why corporations have done this.  In the
case of mine, it's because of incredibly powerful fears of phishing
and malware.  Some health care providers have been shut down by it in
the last half year, and all the rest are utterly terrified.

So, the official policy is that all incoming email has to go through
the corporate system, which blocks and filters everything to an extreme
degree, in order to try to prevent a malware intrusion via email.  Access
to external mail systems like gmail is also blocked, for the same reason --
they're terrified that someone will receive a malware email at an external
address, view it via web mail in a browser on a Windows machine, and
bring a virus/worm into the corporate network that way.

(They cannot even *comprehend* that some people are not running Windows,
or reading email in anything other than Outlook or a web browser.
Not that it would matter to them.  I'm sure there are people within
that department who would outlaw all non-Windows desktops, if they
could, because they don't control them.  That department feels a need
to control literally *everything* computer-related that any employee
ever sees or touches.)



Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
didier gaumet  writes:

> Did you adjust the volume of output 3 and 4 in alsa? if you are lucky, the
> routing is correct and these outputs are only muted.
>
> But I think (no pun intended) that in your present case, you need to learn
> about: - mixing and mastering (partcularly routing) - particular abilites or
> limitations of your Behringer interface - linux low-level tools if that is
> what you want to use That's why I suggested you to use GUI tools, because,
> while perhaps sometimes bloated or in certains cases not offering certains
> options that a CLI tool proposes sometimes, GUI tools are more intuitive. And
> it's easier to learn only mixing/mastering than mixing/mastering and linux
> audio internals at the same time.
>
> As a starting point a tutorial about audio routing could be of use to
> activate outputs 3&4 and chose what to feed them in (sorry if this is not a
> correct sentence, I'm french). There is the routing chapter of Ardour
> tutorial:
> http://brunoruviaro.github.io/ardour4-tutorial/understanding-routing/ but the
> whole tutorial could be of interest


Yes, thanks, it is necessary to learn, beacuse noone replied who already did it
or knows exactly how to do it.  Actually I don't even know if that's ever
possible with Behringer or with any other device...

Rodolfo



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> That means you've to carry a funny dongle with you all the time?
> Or is the "second factor" that oh-so-secure "smart" phone?

Three choices for second factor:

1. use MS's own app for authentication. Yeah, right.

2. txt message to your phone (so need not be "smart")

3. a phone call to your phone (could be landline or mobile)

I've gone with 2 as that works most effectively wherever I may be
(e.g. out of country, once things return to normal, assuming they
do...).

And to think that email was once a simple yet effective tool.  It's been
hijacked.

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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 08:24:36AM -0400, Jonathan Siegle wrote:

[...]

> This is working for me on Debian Buster:
> http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/compfac/faq/davmail.html

Heroes!

:-)

Thanks for the link, cheers
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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:27:07PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 Apr 2021 at 14:21, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > That means you've to carry a funny dongle with you all the time?
> > Or is the "second factor" that oh-so-secure "smart" phone?
> 
> Three choices for second factor:
> 
> 1. use MS's own app for authentication. Yeah, right.

Yeah ;-)

> 2. txt message to your phone (so need not be "smart")

You know those can be (and have been) hi-jacked, don't you?

> I've gone with 2 as that works most effectively wherever I may be
> (e.g. out of country, once things return to normal, assuming they
> do...).

Yes, looks like the least obnoxious. Perhaps one could McGyver something
around it with a GSM stick playing mobile phone? ;-)

> And to think that email was once a simple yet effective tool.  It's been
> hijacked.

I'm not very much into conspiracy theories, but here, I'm convinced that
the "big players" want to downright kill mail because there's no way
for them to monetise it.

At the time O365 was desperately trying to enter that BigCorp I talked
about, there was a buzzing meme in the hierarchy's mid- to high echelons,
on how "email is kind of old and ineffective". I'm *sure* that buzz had
been planted into their ears by Wormtong^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H uh, the Microsoft
sales rep. After all, they know how to talk to decision makers. They are
paid for that.

Cheers
 - t


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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Jonathan Siegle

On 2021-04-28 at 20:20, Gregor Zattler wrote:


Which means that I have to authenticate via a web form with
the company's login server.  MS does not know the passwords
instead hashes are exchanged between the servers.  Some
clients (Outlook) are able to cache successful
authentication for days but also need to relay
authentication to the company's server.

I would like to use IMAP to access email in order to
circumvent Outlook, but AFAIK there is no way for fetchmail
or other command line tools to authenticate via web page and
use the IMAP Server then (Thunderbird is able to do this but
I don't want to use Thunderbird).

I hoped davmail would be able to do that but I have no clue
how to tell davmail to authenticate in this way.  AFAIK the
only way is to provide a password which does not apply here.



This is working for me on Debian Buster:
http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/compfac/faq/davmail.html

I run davmail 5.5 as suggested. Don't forget to set it up as 
O365Interactive to get the web page to show up.  I also run fetchmail to 
put the INBOX into /var/mail/ . Just point fetchmail at your davmail imap 
port.



-Jonathan



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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 01:11:08PM +0100, Eric S Fraga wrote:
> Dystopian is right.  Our organization, using O365, has moved to
> "multi-factor authentication" without consultation and I can no longer
> use gnus, for instance.  Absolutely horrible.

That means you've to carry a funny dongle with you all the time?
Or is the "second factor" that oh-so-secure "smart" phone?

(FWIW, I could offer some resistance by making a point of carrying
around a "classical" dumb phone, usually the cheapest I could get
hold of -- f.ex. my current one doesn't even have a camera; whenever
someone came up with some clever schema involving a pocket computer,
I usually put mine on the table... the "oh"s and the sad faces
following that moment were worth the whole thing, and usually killed
further discussions ;-)

BTW I'm not really a luddite [1]. I'd consider a smart phone if I
had a comparable control over its guts as I have of my laptop, take
or give. Those options are, alas, a tad to pricey for my current
income.

Cheers

Just a tiny bit ;-)

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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread Eric S Fraga
Dystopian is right.  Our organization, using O365, has moved to
"multi-factor authentication" without consultation and I can no longer
use gnus, for instance.  Absolutely horrible.
-- 
Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.4.5 on Debian bullseye/sid



Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 09:04:35AM +0200, deloptes wrote:
> Kushal Kumaran wrote:
> 
> > I think IMAP should work regardless.  My workplace uses federated
> > authentication, and davmail works fine for me.
> 
> I think it depends how it is setup and what policy applies. Especially this
> 3D authentication is not likely to be implemented in the opensource
> software and non of it works for me.

Yes. Half-a-life ago, while in dystopian Bigcorp environment, I had
to bribe Windows admins to keep up Outlook's IMAP with... NTLM auth.
Fetchmail worked fine [1] with that.

But the '365 winds got stronger and stronger, accompanied by a pretty
mail-hostile campaign by Microsoft vendors. Luckily I quit at about
that time.

Perhaps Someone (TM) will have to do the heroic effort the folks
at Youtube-dl do, to jump through endless nightmarish webby hoops
to get at the real content (one weak consolation may be that it's
probably JSON these days and not HTML, so it looks a bit more
like data ;-)

Cheers

[1] Something I still feel tears of gratitude towards fetchmail
   folks. As for all those free software folks doing crazy things.

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Re: Multichannel audio playback

2021-04-29 Thread didier gaumet



Did you adjust the volume of output 3 and 4 in alsa? if you are lucky, 
the routing is correct and these outputs are only muted.


But I think (no pun intended) that in your present case, you need to 
learn about:

- mixing and mastering (partcularly routing)
- particular abilites or limitations of your Behringer interface
- linux low-level tools if that is what you want to use
That's why I suggested you to use GUI tools, because, while perhaps 
sometimes bloated or in certains cases not offering certains options 
that a CLI tool proposes sometimes, GUI tools are more intuitive. And 
it's easier to learn only mixing/mastering than mixing/mastering and 
linux audio internals at the same time.


As a starting point a tutorial about audio routing could be of use to 
activate outputs 3&4 and chose what to feed them in (sorry if this is 
not a correct sentence, I'm french). There is the routing chapter of 
Ardour tutorial:

http://brunoruviaro.github.io/ardour4-tutorial/understanding-routing/
but the whole tutorial could be of interest

Cheers



Re: Google vs. DDG (was: Social-media antipathy)

2021-04-29 Thread tomas
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 10:05:22PM -0400, Yitzhak Grossman wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 20:49:56 -0300
> riveravaldez  wrote:

[...]

> > I have no idea if this Thetis business is pretty popular or well-know (first
> > time I heard about them), but: couldn't be maybe that Thetis paid for some
> > Google Ads (and no DDG Ads, let's say) and that "put them in the (G)map?
> >
> > Just something that came to my mind - to be rigorous: a fully *uneducated*
> > guess...
> 
> A worthy guess, but it doesn't work:

It isn't as easily dismissible, though...

> 1) Thetis is a pretty well known brand in this area

It seems so, yes.

> 2) The DDG results *are for Thetis products* - but only Amazon listings
> and reviews and roundups of Thetis and similar products, rather than
> the company's website.

Thetis seems to be paying for Google, in one currency or another. For
one, fonts and jquery get downloaded directly from googleapis.com, so
Big G gets a tug each time someone hits their page. Then, they embed
Google analytics scripts in their page (one reason, BTW, why I insist
in disabling javascript in my browser).

Probably this is the kind of thing you learn when attending to a SEO
workshop.

In other words, people learn how to be listed by Google at the top,
and customers pay those people to do so. Or would you think that whole
industry called SEO is about DDG? No, it's Google, then, perhaps,
as a far second, Binge.

One might think that, e.g. DDG could try to leverage the same SEO
mechanisms, but, in my examples above, it's a Google site which gets
hits for fonts and other assets: why shouldn't Google use that signal
to prime their crawler?

It's the subtle network effects what's interesting :-)

Cheers
 - t


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Re: how to use fetchmail with MS Office 365 / davmail?

2021-04-29 Thread deloptes
Kushal Kumaran wrote:

> I think IMAP should work regardless.  My workplace uses federated
> authentication, and davmail works fine for me.

I think it depends how it is setup and what policy applies. Especially this
3D authentication is not likely to be implemented in the opensource
software and non of it works for me.