Re: Capture d'écran avec wmctrl+import

2021-10-13 Thread Étienne Mollier
Bonsoir Pierre,

Pierre ESTREM, on 2021-10-13:
> 'wmctrl -d -v" me renvoie :
> 
> envir_utf8: 1
> WM provides _NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY value common for all desktops.
> WM provides _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT value only for the current desktop.
> WM provides _NET_WORKAREA value only for the current desktop.
> Total number of desktops: 1
> Current desktop ID (counted from zero): 0
> 0  * DG: 7680x1080  VP: 3840,0  WA: 0,35 1920x1008  Espace de travail 1
> 
> Ca fait 1 (un) bureau/desktop ?

Les bureaux ont l'air d'être bien présents sous une forme
différente de ce à quoi je m'attendais : wmctrl rapporte une
largeur de bureau de 7680 pixels, ce qui correspond exactement à
quatre fois la largeur de l'espace de travail de 1920 pixels.
Je n'ai pas la moindre idée de ce qui peut provoquer ce
comportement pour le moment, et je n'arrive pas à le reproduire.
Potentiellement, dans ce genre de situation, les fenêtres
pourraient être stockées à des coordonnées en dehors de la zone
d'affichage, mais c'est juste une conjecture.

> Pourtant je passe de l'un à l'autre normalement sauf dans certains cas où je
> n'en ai plus qu'un et alors c'est la catastrophe...
> Si quelqu'un a cela parfois expliquez-moi svp (alors un ALT+F4 n'a aucune
> action mais renvoie ";3s").

Par défaut, le raccourci Alt+Suppr supprime un espace de
travail, et Alt+Inser permet d'en reconstruire un, mais il ne
remet pas les fenêtres à leur place après qu'elles aient été
bougées par inadvertance.  Il m'est déjà arrivé de me prendre
les pieds dans le tapis avec ce raccourci.

Bonne soirée,
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Re: Capture d'écran avec wmctrl+import

2021-10-13 Thread Étienne Mollier
Bonjour Pierre,

Pierre ESTREM, on 2021-10-13:
> Un truc que je ne comprends pas est que "wmctrl -d" ne me renvoie qu'UN
> desktop, alors que j'en attendais 4...

Bizarre, avec la configuration par défaut de xfce4 de Debian 11,
j'ai bien quatre espaces de travail de mon côté :

$ wmctrl -d | wc -l
4

Peut-être que la configuration par défaut a été retouchée ?
Peut-être que le mode verbeux en dira plus sur la configuration
des bureaux :

$ wmctrl -v -d

Bonne soirée,
-- 
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Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Reco
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:59:34PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/13/2021 01:31 PM, Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
> > 
> > The usual place - kernel documentation.
> > Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.
> 
> No such file on my system.

apt install linux-doc



Reco



Re: Capture d'écran avec wmctrl+import

2021-10-13 Thread Pierre ESTREM

Bonsoir Etienne et le monde libre,

'wmctrl -d -v" me renvoie :

envir_utf8: 1
WM provides _NET_DESKTOP_GEOMETRY value common for all desktops.
WM provides _NET_DESKTOP_VIEWPORT value only for the current desktop.
WM provides _NET_WORKAREA value only for the current desktop.
Total number of desktops: 1
Current desktop ID (counted from zero): 0
0  * DG: 7680x1080  VP: 3840,0  WA: 0,35 1920x1008  Espace de travail 1

Ca fait 1 (un) bureau/desktop ?

Pourtant je passe de l'un à l'autre normalement sauf dans certains cas 
où je n'en ai plus qu'un et alors c'est la catastrophe...
Si quelqu'un a cela parfois expliquez-moi svp (alors un ALT+F4 n'a 
aucune action mais renvoie ";3s").


pierre estrem


Le 13/10/2021 à 20:16, Étienne Mollier a écrit :

Bonjour Pierre,

Pierre ESTREM, on 2021-10-13:

Un truc que je ne comprends pas est que "wmctrl -d" ne me renvoie qu'UN
desktop, alors que j'en attendais 4...

Bizarre, avec la configuration par défaut de xfce4 de Debian 11,
j'ai bien quatre espaces de travail de mon côté :

$ wmctrl -d | wc -l
4

Peut-être que la configuration par défaut a été retouchée ?
Peut-être que le mode verbeux en dira plus sur la configuration
des bureaux :

$ wmctrl -v -d

Bonne soirée,




Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 10:16 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are *exactly* two 
> choices for internet connectivity:
> an ethernet device
>    *OR*
>    WiFi
> 
> However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile ]
> The installer is unable to see the internet.

I just downloaded the latest netinst [1] and booted that with my
ethernet cable disconnected and my phone connected to USB for 'USB
Tethering'. The installer first tries automatically configuring the
'eno1' interface (wired ethernet) then after failing moves on to 'usb0'
(my phone) which succeeds in configuring a network connection using
DHCP.

So it seems the installer will work fine with a USB wireless network
device if it presents itself as a CDC device to the kernel, supporting
the Remote NDIS protocol. It make work in other cases, that's just what
my phone does and what I tested.

[1] 
https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-11.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso

-- 
Tixy



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread David Wright
On Wed 13 Oct 2021 at 14:29:00 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/13/2021 02:06 PM, David Wright wrote:
> > On Wed 13 Oct 2021 at 13:59:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > On 10/13/2021 01:31 PM, Reco wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > > Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
> > > > 
> > > > The usual place - kernel documentation.
> > > > Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.
> > > 
> > > No such file on my system.
> > > Using DuckDuckGo to search for "cdc_mbim.rst.gz" or "cdc_mbim.rst"
> > > gives hits for either term :{
> > 
> > Don't trust the extension, and use apt-file:
> > 
> > $ apt-file find Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim
> > linux-doc-4.19: 
> > /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-4.19/Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.txt.gz
> > $
> > 
> > (buster)
> 
> I'm in over my head. I get:
> 
> richard@defaultinstall:~$
> richard@defaultinstall:~$ apt-file find Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim
> linux-doc-4.9:
> /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-4.9/Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.txt.gz
> richard@defaultinstall:~$
> 
> What is it trying to tell me? The apt-file manpage leaves confused.

The Debian package linux-doc-4.9 contains the file
/usr/share/doc/linux-doc-4.9/Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.txt.gz

Cheers,
David.



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Richard Owlett

On 10/13/2021 02:06 PM, David Wright wrote:

On Wed 13 Oct 2021 at 13:59:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:

On 10/13/2021 01:31 PM, Reco wrote:

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?


The usual place - kernel documentation.
Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.


No such file on my system.
Using DuckDuckGo to search for "cdc_mbim.rst.gz" or "cdc_mbim.rst"
gives hits for either term :{


Don't trust the extension, and use apt-file:

$ apt-file find Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim
linux-doc-4.19: 
/usr/share/doc/linux-doc-4.19/Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.txt.gz
$

(buster)

Cheers,
David.





I'm in over my head. I get:

richard@defaultinstall:~$
richard@defaultinstall:~$ apt-file find Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim
linux-doc-4.9: 
/usr/share/doc/linux-doc-4.9/Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.txt.gz

richard@defaultinstall:~$

What is it trying to tell me? The apt-file manpage leaves confused.





Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Tixy
Resending with quoting fixed...

On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 13:18 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/13/2021 12:35 PM, Tixy wrote:
> > On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 17:09 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:51:28AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 10/13/21 8:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > > It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are
> > > > > *exactly* two
> > > > > choices for internet connectivity:
> > > > >     an ethernet device
> > > > >    *OR*
> > > > >    WiFi
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-
> > > > > Mobile ]
> > > > > The installer is unable to see the internet.
> > > > 
> > > > are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?
> > > > 
> > > > I have had no troubles with multiple installs, but I only use
> > > > the nonfree
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Firmware iso is what I would suggest.
> > 
> > I suspect firmware isn't an issue. The device probably works as CDC
> > Ethernet (don't know if installer kernel has the cdc_ether driver),
> > but
> > sounds like the device initially presents itself as a USB mass
> > storage
> > device and needs some way to force it to change modes.
> > 
> 
> I've never heard of "CDC Ethernet" and what I found with a quickie
> web 
> search wasn't very useful.
> 
> What I see when Debian boots does not have any obvious conflict with 
> what I see. If the Linkzone is already plugged in when boot begins it
> appears to be caught in a loop. As soon as the Linkzone is unplugged
> the 
> boot completes as expected. Plug it back back in and I have immediate
> internet access.
> 
> Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
> I found bits of discussion about it but nothing educational.
> TIA
> 

I don't know anything to be useful, sorry. It's just part of the USB
protocols for devices that want to look like ethernet and the Linux
kernel has drivers for that.

When I plug my Android phone into a PC via USB, I get to select on the
phone what it should use USB for. If I select 'USB tethering' then the
'dmesg' output on the PC shows

  usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether
  rndis_host 2-2:1.0 usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-:00:14.0-2, RNDIS 
device, 6a:28:cd:07:4f:f1
  usbcore: registered new interface driver rndis_host

Then running 'ip link' from a command-line shows I've gained and
ethernet device called 'usb0' which I can select in Network Manager if
I choose.

I suspect your Linkzone device is effectively an Android phone without
a screen.  But this doesn't help you, because you can't tell your
device what USB protocol to select, unless the App for controlling the
device that Alcatel's web site mentions lets you do that. There again,
if you had an phone to run the app you wouldn't need the Linkzone, you
could just use your phone for mobile internet access.

Perhaps more relevantly, a previous phone of mine would always show up
first as a USB mass storage device, and the contents looked like some
Windows software (presumable so a Windows could automatically install
something). If I remember correctly. I would have to unmount that
before I could connect to it properly for file transfer via MTP or as a
USB network device.

-- 
Tixy



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 13:59 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/13/2021 01:31 PM, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
> > 
> > The usual place - kernel documentation.
> > Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.
> > 
> > Reco
> 
> No such file on my system.
> Using DuckDuckGo to search for "cdc_mbim.rst.gz" or "cdc_mbim.rst"
> gives 
> hits for either term :{

Google does. It's part of the documentation in the Linux source code
for the "Driver for CDC MBIM Mobile Broadband modems".

Perhaps that is what your Linkzone implements and no Ethernet as I
speculated? You can check by looking at the kernel logs when you plug
the device in on a computer.

-- 
Tixy




Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 13:18 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/13/2021 12:35 PM, Tixy wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 17:09 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:51:28AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 10/13/21 8:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > > It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are
> > > > *exactly* two
> > > > choices for internet connectivity:
> > > >     an ethernet device
> > > >    *OR*
> > > >    WiFi
> > > > 
> > > > However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile
> > > > ]
> > > > The installer is unable to see the internet.
> > > 
> > > are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?
> > > 
> > > I have had no troubles with multiple installs, but I only use the
> > > nonfree
> > > 
> > 
> > Firmware iso is what I would suggest.
> 
> I suspect firmware isn't an issue. The device probably works as CDC
> Ethernet (don't know if installer kernel has the cdc_ether driver),
> but
> sounds like the device initially presents itself as a USB mass
> storage
> device and needs some way to force it to change modes.
> 

I've never heard of "CDC Ethernet" and what I found with a quickie web 
search wasn't very useful.

What I see when Debian boots does not have any obvious conflict with 
what I see. If the Linkzone is already plugged in when boot begins it 
appears to be caught in a loop. As soon as the Linkzone is unplugged
the 
boot completes as expected. Plug it back back in and I have immediate 
internet access.

Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
I found bits of discussion about it but nothing educational.

I don't know anything to be useful, sorry. It's just part of the USB
protocols for devices that want to look like ethernet and the Linux
kernel has drivers for that.

When I plug my Android phone into a PC via USB, I get to select on the
phone what it should use USB for. If I select 'USB tethering' then the
'dmesg' output on the PC shows

  usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether
  rndis_host 2-2:1.0 usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-:00:14.0-2, RNDIS 
device, 6a:28:cd:07:4f:f1
  usbcore: registered new interface driver rndis_host

Then running 'ip link' from a command-line shows I've gained and
ethernet device called 'usb0' which I can select in Network Manager if
I choose.

I suspect your Linkzone device is effectively an Android phone without
a screen.  But this doesn't help you, because you can't tell your
device what USB protocol to select, unless the App for controlling the
device that Alcatel's web site mentions lets you do that. There again,
if you had an phone to run the app you wouldn't need the Linkzone, you
could just use your phone for mobile internet access.

Perhaps more relevantly, a previous phone of mine would always show up
first as a USB mass storage device, and the contents looked like some
Windows software (presumable so a Windows could automatically install
something). If I remember correctly. I would have to unmount that
before I could connect to it properly for file transfer via MTP or as a
USB network device.

-- 
Tixy



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 13 Oct 2021 at 13:59:34 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

> On 10/13/2021 01:31 PM, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> > 
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
> > 
> > The usual place - kernel documentation.
> > Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.
> > 
> > Reco
> 
> No such file on my system.
> Using DuckDuckGo to search for "cdc_mbim.rst.gz" or "cdc_mbim.rst" gives
> hits for either term :{

Try "cdc_mbim".

-- 
Brian.
> 
> 
> 



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread David Wright
On Wed 13 Oct 2021 at 13:59:34 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/13/2021 01:31 PM, Reco wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
> > 
> > The usual place - kernel documentation.
> > Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.
> 
> No such file on my system.
> Using DuckDuckGo to search for "cdc_mbim.rst.gz" or "cdc_mbim.rst"
> gives hits for either term :{

Don't trust the extension, and use apt-file:

$ apt-file find Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim
linux-doc-4.19: 
/usr/share/doc/linux-doc-4.19/Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.txt.gz
$ 

(buster)

Cheers,
David.



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Richard Owlett

On 10/13/2021 01:31 PM, Reco wrote:

Hi.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:

Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?


The usual place - kernel documentation.
Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.

Reco


No such file on my system.
Using DuckDuckGo to search for "cdc_mbim.rst.gz" or "cdc_mbim.rst" gives 
hits for either term :{






Re: Trouble connecting to wifi, Debian 11

2021-10-13 Thread David Wright
On Thu 14 Oct 2021 at 00:36:18 (+0800), kaye n wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 21:26 Peter Ehlert,  wrote:
> > On 10/13/21 6:14 AM, kaye n wrote:
> > >
> > > I've installed Debian 11 LXQT in my hard drive.
> > > I noticed connman does not automatically run on startup, which is fine.

That wouldn't be fine for me.

> > > I manually open Connman. It can detect my usb wifi adapter because
> > > under Wireless tab, it says
> > >
> > > Wifi technologies: 1 Found,  1 powered
> > >
> > > However under the same tab, all these buttons after greyed out:
> > > Connect, Disconnect, Remove, Rescan
> > >
> > > And I cannot see my router on the list below these buttons.
> > >
> > > Tried connecting and disconnecting the usb wifi adapter, no change.
> > >
> > > Tried using a pricier usb wifi adapter, same thing.
> > >
> > > Tried plugging in a different usb port, same thing.
> > >
> > > I had very little trouble connecting to wifi on Debian 10 xfce.
> > >
> > > Should i just install Debian 11 xfce or is there a solution to this?
> > >
> > > 64-bit Debian, by the way.
> > >
> > > Also, have the same issue on the live usb Debian 11 - cannot connect
> > > to wifi.

> > are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?
> 
> No i am not using a non free firmware iso

I was under the impression, unless you've bought something,
that you were using:

 Device-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter
  vendor: Wistron NeWeb driver: bcma-pci-bridge v: N/A port: 2000
  bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 14e4:4727

which would require firmware. There's a wiki page:

https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211

Most laptops' wifi will require firmware.

Cheers,
David.



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Reco
Hi.

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 01:18:07PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?

The usual place - kernel documentation.
Specifically, it's Documentation/networking/cdc_mbim.rst.gz.

Reco



Re: Trouble connecting to wifi, Debian 11

2021-10-13 Thread echo test
Maybe you should use it because that's where you will find a lot of non
free firmwares.

Check your kernel logs ($> sudo dmesg) , you may find an explicit reason
why your adapter fails to run properly.

Le mer. 13 oct. 2021 à 18:36, kaye n  a écrit :

>
>
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 21:26 Peter Ehlert,  wrote:
>
>>
>> On 10/13/21 6:14 AM, kaye n wrote:
>> > Hi Friends
>> >
>> > I've installed Debian 11 LXQT in my hard drive.
>> > I noticed connman does not automatically run on startup, which is fine.
>> >
>> > I manually open Connman. It can detect my usb wifi adapter because
>> > under Wireless tab, it says
>> >
>> > Wifi technologies: 1 Found,  1 powered
>> >
>> > However under the same tab, all these buttons after greyed out:
>> > Connect, Disconnect, Remove, Rescan
>> >
>> > And I cannot see my router on the list below these buttons.
>> >
>> > Tried connecting and disconnecting the usb wifi adapter, no change.
>> >
>> > Tried using a pricier usb wifi adapter, same thing.
>> >
>> > Tried plugging in a different usb port, same thing.
>> >
>> > I had very little trouble connecting to wifi on Debian 10 xfce.
>> >
>> > Should i just install Debian 11 xfce or is there a solution to this?
>> >
>> > 64-bit Debian, by the way.
>> >
>> > Also, have the same issue on the live usb Debian 11 - cannot connect
>> > to wifi.
>> are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?
>> >
>> > Bit off topic, Debian live usb comes with complete libreoffice except
>> > Base. The installed version on my hard drive has only libreoffice
>> > Draw, i think.  Is this normal?
>> >
>> > Thank you for your time.
>>
>
> No i am not using a non free firmware iso
>
>>


Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Richard Owlett

On 10/13/2021 12:35 PM, Tixy wrote:

On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 17:09 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:51:28AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:


On 10/13/21 8:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are *exactly* two
choices for internet connectivity:
    an ethernet device
   *OR*
   WiFi

However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile ]
The installer is unable to see the internet.


are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?

I have had no troubles with multiple installs, but I only use the nonfree



Firmware iso is what I would suggest.


I suspect firmware isn't an issue. The device probably works as CDC
Ethernet (don't know if installer kernel has the cdc_ether driver), but
sounds like the device initially presents itself as a USB mass storage
device and needs some way to force it to change modes.



I've never heard of "CDC Ethernet" and what I found with a quickie web 
search wasn't very useful.


What I see when Debian boots does not have any obvious conflict with 
what I see. If the Linkzone is already plugged in when boot begins it 
appears to be caught in a loop. As soon as the Linkzone is unplugged the 
boot completes as expected. Plug it back back in and I have immediate 
internet access.


Where would I descriptive information about "CDC Ethernet"?
I found bits of discussion about it but nothing educational.
TIA





Re: New debian installation disk partition

2021-10-13 Thread David Christensen

On 10/12/21 21:47, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Ma, 12 oct 21, 00:02:50, David Christensen wrote:

On 10/11/21 23:58, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Lu, 11 oct 21, 13:56:28, David Christensen wrote:

On 10/11/21 13:39, Andrei POPESCU wrote:



ZFS has native encryption now, any particular reason to prefer using a
LUKS container instead?


I use LUKS because ZFS native encryption was not available OOTB the last
time I looked on Debian.  What version of d-i has ZFS native encryption?


I wasn't aware of any kind of support for ZFS in d-i.


If d-i does not have native support for ZFS encryption, then when I break my
computer I will be unable to use the d-i media to access my disk(s).


The Debian Installer doesn't have support for ZFS at all, so it's use to
rescue for root-on-ZFS systems is limited, at best, regardless of the
encryption.



AFAIK d-i as of version 10 does not support ZFS in any way, so I do not 
use ZFS on Debian.



David



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2021-10-13 at 17:09 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:51:28AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> > 
> > On 10/13/21 8:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > > It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are *exactly* two
> > > choices for internet connectivity:
> > >    an ethernet device
> > >   *OR*
> > >   WiFi
> > > 
> > > However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile ]
> > > The installer is unable to see the internet.
> > 
> > are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?
> > 
> > I have had no troubles with multiple installs, but I only use the nonfree
> > 
> 
> Firmware iso is what I would suggest.

I suspect firmware isn't an issue. The device probably works as CDC
Ethernet (don't know if installer kernel has the cdc_ether driver), but
sounds like the device initially presents itself as a USB mass storage
device and needs some way to force it to change modes.

-- 
Tixy



Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Richard Owlett

On 10/13/2021 12:09 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:51:28AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:


On 10/13/21 8:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are *exactly* two
choices for internet connectivity:
    an ethernet device
   *OR*
   WiFi

However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile ]
The installer is unable to see the internet.


are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?

I have had no troubles with multiple installs, but I only use the nonfree



Firmware iso is what I would suggest.





Based on using that device on all of my Debian machines, I believe the
problem is how Debian negotiates with a USB device and that the Linkzone
resembles a disk drive until the negotiations have been completed.

My evidence is how GParted responds to a USB flash drive.
If the flash drive is inserted first, it is /dev/sdb .
Else if the Linkzone is inserted first, the flash drive is identified as
/dev/sdc .

Is there any workaround?
TIA



Is the linkzone recognised at all as a modem?


I'm connected to the internet right now with it as I have been since 
days of Squeeze/Wheezy.






Do you have wired connectivity available to you - that's also a way
round "stuff" with firmware to at least get a system up and running.

All best,

Andy Cater















Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 08:51:28AM -0700, Peter Ehlert wrote:
> 
> On 10/13/21 8:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are *exactly* two
> > choices for internet connectivity:
> >    an ethernet device
> >   *OR*
> >   WiFi
> > 
> > However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile ]
> > The installer is unable to see the internet.
> 
> are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?
> 
> I have had no troubles with multiple installs, but I only use the nonfree
> 

Firmware iso is what I would suggest.

> 
> > 
> > Based on using that device on all of my Debian machines, I believe the
> > problem is how Debian negotiates with a USB device and that the Linkzone
> > resembles a disk drive until the negotiations have been completed.
> > 
> > My evidence is how GParted responds to a USB flash drive.
> > If the flash drive is inserted first, it is /dev/sdb .
> > Else if the Linkzone is inserted first, the flash drive is identified as
> > /dev/sdc .
> > 
> > Is there any workaround?
> > TIA
> > 
> > 
Is the linkzone recognised at all as a modem?

Do you have wired connectivity available to you - that's also a way
round "stuff" with firmware to at least get a system up and running.

All best,

Andy Cater

> > 
> 



Re: Trouble connecting to wifi, Debian 11

2021-10-13 Thread kaye n
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 21:26 Peter Ehlert,  wrote:

>
> On 10/13/21 6:14 AM, kaye n wrote:
> > Hi Friends
> >
> > I've installed Debian 11 LXQT in my hard drive.
> > I noticed connman does not automatically run on startup, which is fine.
> >
> > I manually open Connman. It can detect my usb wifi adapter because
> > under Wireless tab, it says
> >
> > Wifi technologies: 1 Found,  1 powered
> >
> > However under the same tab, all these buttons after greyed out:
> > Connect, Disconnect, Remove, Rescan
> >
> > And I cannot see my router on the list below these buttons.
> >
> > Tried connecting and disconnecting the usb wifi adapter, no change.
> >
> > Tried using a pricier usb wifi adapter, same thing.
> >
> > Tried plugging in a different usb port, same thing.
> >
> > I had very little trouble connecting to wifi on Debian 10 xfce.
> >
> > Should i just install Debian 11 xfce or is there a solution to this?
> >
> > 64-bit Debian, by the way.
> >
> > Also, have the same issue on the live usb Debian 11 - cannot connect
> > to wifi.
> are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?
> >
> > Bit off topic, Debian live usb comes with complete libreoffice except
> > Base. The installed version on my hard drive has only libreoffice
> > Draw, i think.  Is this normal?
> >
> > Thank you for your time.
>

No i am not using a non free firmware iso

>


Re: Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Ehlert



On 10/13/21 8:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are *exactly* two 
choices for internet connectivity:

   an ethernet device
  *OR*
  WiFi

However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile ]
The installer is unable to see the internet.


are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?

I have had no troubles with multiple installs, but I only use the nonfree




Based on using that device on all of my Debian machines, I believe the 
problem is how Debian negotiates with a USB device and that the 
Linkzone resembles a disk drive until the negotiations have been 
completed.


My evidence is how GParted responds to a USB flash drive.
If the flash drive is inserted first, it is /dev/sdb .
Else if the Linkzone is inserted first, the flash drive is identified 
as /dev/sdc .


Is there any workaround?
TIA







Re: Mouse left button acts really strange

2021-10-13 Thread Joe
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 21:32:54 +0200
Andreas Ronnquist  wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Oct 2021 20:52:25 +0200,
> sp...@caiway.net wrote:
> 
> >I really like Logitech mouses (fast scrolling!), but when used often
> >they break each one/two year.
> >Sometimes wire most of the time left button.
> >I buy them per 3. 
> >  
> 
> Indeed - I just replaced the faulty one with a new one of the same
> model - the problem has gone away.
> 
> It was the hardware.
> 

A common problem. There are usually only three or four button switches
used in mice, and yes, the quick answer is to keep broken mice, marking
them if they are broken because of a switch.

The switches are normally easily available new, the trick can be in
identifying the exact model. Mice are not usually very forgiving about
exact sizes.

In the last few days, I've had a left button go dodgy in a H-P mouse,
and I'm currently trying to get the case open without breaking it.

-- 
Joe



Intrinsic problem with netinst.iso?

2021-10-13 Thread Richard Owlett
It appears to me that netinst.iso assumes that there are *exactly* two 
choices for internet connectivity:

   an ethernet device
  *OR*
  WiFi

However, I use a USB device [ an Alcatel Linkzone from T-Mobile ]
The installer is unable to see the internet.

Based on using that device on all of my Debian machines, I believe the 
problem is how Debian negotiates with a USB device and that the Linkzone 
resembles a disk drive until the negotiations have been completed.


My evidence is how GParted responds to a USB flash drive.
If the flash drive is inserted first, it is /dev/sdb .
Else if the Linkzone is inserted first, the flash drive is identified as 
/dev/sdc .


Is there any workaround?
TIA




Re: How exactly do I create a Debian live USB?

2021-10-13 Thread Махно
Ok. But remember that rebooting is necessary.


2021-10-12, an, 17:56 Roy J. Tellason, Sr.  rašė:

> On Tuesday 12 October 2021 08:07:58 am Махно wrote:
> > Hello. Your PC doesn't have a floppy drive, but you have /dev/fd0, and
> many
> > things will try to use it. You can disable this message
> > (blk_update_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 op).
> > As root
> >
> > # rmmod floppy
> > # echo "blacklist floppy" | tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-floppy.conf
> > # dpkg-reconfigure initramfs-tools
>
> My computer does have one,  but I don't use it at all.  Seeing similar
> error messaged,  I've copied and pasted these three lines into a terminal
> window.  We'll see if those messages go away next time I boot...
>
> --
> Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
> ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
> be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
> -
> Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies.
> --James
> M Dakin
>
>


Re: Trouble connecting to wifi, Debian 11

2021-10-13 Thread Peter Ehlert



On 10/13/21 6:14 AM, kaye n wrote:

Hi Friends

I've installed Debian 11 LXQT in my hard drive.
I noticed connman does not automatically run on startup, which is fine.

I manually open Connman. It can detect my usb wifi adapter because 
under Wireless tab, it says


Wifi technologies: 1 Found,  1 powered

However under the same tab, all these buttons after greyed out:
Connect, Disconnect, Remove, Rescan

And I cannot see my router on the list below these buttons.

Tried connecting and disconnecting the usb wifi adapter, no change.

Tried using a pricier usb wifi adapter, same thing.

Tried plugging in a different usb port, same thing.

I had very little trouble connecting to wifi on Debian 10 xfce.

Should i just install Debian 11 xfce or is there a solution to this?

64-bit Debian, by the way.

Also, have the same issue on the live usb Debian 11 - cannot connect 
to wifi.

are you using the nonfree firmware ISO?


Bit off topic, Debian live usb comes with complete libreoffice except 
Base. The installed version on my hard drive has only libreoffice 
Draw, i think.  Is this normal?


Thank you for your time.





Trouble connecting to wifi, Debian 11

2021-10-13 Thread kaye n
Hi Friends

I've installed Debian 11 LXQT in my hard drive.
I noticed connman does not automatically run on startup, which is fine.

I manually open Connman. It can detect my usb wifi adapter because under
Wireless tab, it says

Wifi technologies: 1 Found,  1 powered

However under the same tab, all these buttons after greyed out:
Connect, Disconnect, Remove, Rescan

And I cannot see my router on the list below these buttons.

Tried connecting and disconnecting the usb wifi adapter, no change.

Tried using a pricier usb wifi adapter, same thing.

Tried plugging in a different usb port, same thing.

I had very little trouble connecting to wifi on Debian 10 xfce.

Should i just install Debian 11 xfce or is there a solution to this?

64-bit Debian, by the way.

Also, have the same issue on the live usb Debian 11 - cannot connect to
wifi.

Bit off topic, Debian live usb comes with complete libreoffice except Base.
The installed version on my hard drive has only libreoffice Draw, i think.
Is this normal?

Thank you for your time.


Re: A real bounce between GMX and bendel.debian.org

2021-10-13 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Eduardo M KALINOWSKI) hast geschrieben:

> My mailserver bounced the same email (and I got a warning like that). Since
> I run my own mailserver, and can look at the logs and see exactly why it has
> been rejected, and here's what I got:
> 
> 2021-10-10 16:07:37 1mZeAb-0005Mc-Hn H=bendel.debian.org
> [2001:41b8:202:deb:216:36ff:fe40:4002]
> X=TLS1.3:ECDHE_SECP256R1__RSA_PSS_RSAE_SHA256__AES_256_GCM:256 CV=no
> F= rejected
> after DATA: header syntax (malformed address: >\n may not follow
> Pierre-Elliott =?utf-8?Q?B=C3=A9cue?= : failing address in
> "From:" header is: Pierre-Elliott =?utf-8?Q?B=C3=A9cue?= >):
> malformed address: >\n may not follow Pierre-Elliott =?utf-8?Q?B=C3=A9cue?=
> : failing address in "From:" header is: Pierre-Elliott
> =?utf-8?Q?B=C3=A9cue?= >
> 
> And this is From header:
> 
> From: Pierre-Elliott =?utf-8?Q?B=C3=A9cue?= >
> 
> (There does seem to be an extra > in there.)
> 
> 
> In this case, my server bounced a mail, and so the listserver is correct in
> sending me that notification. And since it was just one email, I did not get
> unsubscribed.
> 
> However, perhaps the listserver should have not accepted that email with the
> (possibly) invalid From header in the first place.

Thanks for your analysis. The bounces we got (not only from
GMX/Web.de) only complain about RfC-violation, but didn't show why.

We now disabled bounce-detection if it is related to that.

We'll check how to be more strict in accepting these kind of mails
now.

Yours,
Cord, Debian Listmaster of the day
-- 
https://lists.debian.org



Re: Sai

2021-10-13 Thread Jordi
El dt. 12 de 10 de 2021 a les 11:17 +0200, en/na Narcis Garcia va
escriure:
> Jo et puc ajudar en programes que no estiguin ben integrats amb
> Systemd.
> Com ho tens ara a Debian 11?
> 
Hola, no sé que vols dir exactament amb : Com ho tens ara a Debian 11?
però trobo que està força liat això del systemd i programes poc
integrats i ara mateix no em puc complicar amb això.

També trobo a faltar una gui eficaç del systemd al Debian 11.
De fet, ja et dic ara mateix no sé què controla el Sai ja que fa una
mica el que vol

Saltucacions Jordi



Re: [HS] dhcps

2021-10-13 Thread Yahoo

Bonjour,

peux tu afficher la commande exact que tu envoie stp.

Cordialement.


Loïc

Le 12/10/2021 à 14:46, David Martin a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Nmap et le plugin broadcast-dhcp-discover me renvoi bien
l'identification du serveur dhcp de mon boulot.

Mais il me crache aussi 38 hotes avec ce type de ligne :

PORT   STATE    SERVICE
67/tcp filtered dhcps
MAC Address: 90:1B:0E:FD:B0:E3 (Fujitsu Technology Solutions GmbH)

Nmap scan report for 172.19.248.62
Host is up (0.0012s latency)

Ce sont des postes windows, quel est ce service ?  le service client 
de microsoft ?
le service DHCP d'une multitude de serveur qui nous mettent la zizanie 
(ce qui est le cas si c'est bien ça) ?


A votre avis ?



--
david martin