Re: I *think* I found the apache2 docs, but it's in .html andIcannotgetfirefox to access it using "file:"+ /path/to/filedir

[rhkramer]

The mad snipper strikes -- mwha ha haha

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 04:05:40 PM Gareth Evans wrote:
> > On 23 Jun 2022, at 01:46, gene heskett  wrote:
> > On 6/22/22 19:39, Gareth Evans wrote:

> >> OK, but I mean do the non-robots.txt-compliant bots actually try to
> >> submit passwords?
> > 
> > If enough of us do it in self defense, I look for then to grow the code
> > to do it. I don't object to them indexing my site, but on a 10 megabit
> > cable connection, they use up all my upload bw on a 24/7 basis when they
> > try to mirror it. That in my lookup table, is a DDS. So them and the
> > camel that rode in on them can be told to go to hell but I won't waste
> > time using flowery words like our senator Bird was so famously fond of
> > using. He could tell you to go to hell and do it in such flowery
> > language that you looked forward to the trip.
> 
> OK.  That's not something I can help with from scratch, but I will watch
> with interest for further discussion.
> 
> Best wishes,
> G


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Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

[Charles Curley]

On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 16:27:28 -0400
Bijan Soleymani  wrote:

> better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on 
> every deletion by default
> 
> rm -rf /
> 
> oops!

Better yet, have proper backups.

https://charlescurley.com/blog/posts/2019/Nov/02/backups-on-linux/

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Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

[Dan Ritter]

Bijan Soleymani wrote: 
> On 6/23/2022 12:03 PM, Person the human wrote:
> > The easier something is to do, the more harmless people will think it
> > is, so you're right. Thanks.
> 
> rm wrongfile
> 
> how do I undelete?
> 
> better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on every
> deletion by default
> 
> rm -rf /
> 
> oops!
> 
> sigh...

Luckily, you weren't root and you didn't use sudo or doas, so
what came back was

rm: failed to remove '/': Permission denied

But sometimes that happens. All we can do is not make it
extremely easy for people to do terrible things by accident
because it looked like a good thing to do.

And people learn from experience, but it's really hard to learn
from experience when the mistake you made happened six days ago
as you tried to install a great game you read about, and now
your ISP has shut your connection off.

-dsr-

Need advice on known work with linux graphics card.

[hput]

I've done one of those "build it yourself" online setups and built up
an HP Z840.  The host has no built in graphics capability.  So
requires a card right off the real. My graphics usage will be some
sort of semi-extensive image editing and Animation.

Its been many years since I had to research a graphics card.  Things
have changed to the point where I'm really lost.

I'm an ubuntu user but spent several yrs as a straight Debian user.

I know there is a level of sophisticated knowledge here and hope to
find people who know which cards play well with linux (especially
Debian derivatives like ubuntu.)

I don't want to have to scrape around for drivers or find that the
card is just not compatible.

So anyone who has something to say, especially from experience on this
please consider responding.

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

[Charles Curley]

On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:34:41 -0230
Person the human  wrote:

> Would it be nice if it was possible to pass a URL to 'apt install' so
> that a package could be installed without first downloading its .deb
> file? I think it's good because it can save time and prevent unneeded
> damage to SSDs. Even if you don't have any info to add, please let me
> know what you think.

There is an extension for Chromium called Apt-linker which may do some
of what you want. The description is "Turns "apt-get install" lines
into clickable apturl links for installing Ubuntu and Debian GNU/Linux
packages".

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Re: I *think* I found the apache2 docs, but it's in .html andIcannotgetfirefox to access it using "file:"+ /path/to/filedir

[Gareth Evans]

> On 23 Jun 2022, at 21:49, gene heskett  wrote:
> 
> On 6/23/22 16:08, Gareth Evans wrote:
>> OK.  That's not something I can help with from scratch, but I will watch 
>> with interest for further discussion.
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> G
> Well, it working in plain http, so until they get to be a nuisance, I have 
> other irons
> smoking in the fire. Like some fine tuning of the gui fpr one of my cnc'd 
> machines.
> 
> See at the 6040-stf subdir at the link in my sig.
> 
> That machine is about to start making a screw out of hard maple, made to be 
> the
> screw of a combo with a 3d printed nut assembly for a woodworking workbenches
> leg vise. If it works I'll adv in Fine WoodWorking as the only other maker of 
> such
> has quietly vanished about 15 years back up the log.
> 
> He may have missed morning roll call as will I, probably too soon, but I am 
> 87 and
> alone now.
> 
> And I intend to have fun till I miss that famous roll call.  If I can make a 
> few sheckles
> doing it, that's even better. :o)>
> 
> Thank you for the help, Gareth, take care and stay well.

You're welcome, you too.
Gareth

> 
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett.
> 
> -- 
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
> If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
> - Louis D. Brandeis
> Genes Web page 
> 

Re: I *think* I found the apache2 docs, but it's in .html andIcannotgetfirefox to access it using "file:"+ /path/to/filedir

[gene heskett]

On 6/23/22 16:08, Gareth Evans wrote:

OK.  That's not something I can help with from scratch, but I will watch with 
interest for further discussion.

Best wishes,
G
Well, it working in plain http, so until they get to be a nuisance, I 
have other irons
smoking in the fire. Like some fine tuning of the gui fpr one of my 
cnc'd machines.


See at the 6040-stf subdir at the link in my sig.

That machine is about to start making a screw out of hard maple, made to 
be the
screw of a combo with a 3d printed nut assembly for a woodworking 
workbenches
leg vise. If it works I'll adv in Fine WoodWorking as the only other 
maker of such

has quietly vanished about 15 years back up the log.

He may have missed morning roll call as will I, probably too soon, but I 
am 87 and

alone now.

And I intend to have fun till I miss that famous roll call.  If I can 
make a few sheckles

doing it, that's even better. :o)>

Thank you for the help, Gareth, take care and stay well.


Cheers, Gene Heskett.

--
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
 - Louis D. Brandeis
Genes Web page 

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

[Bijan Soleymani]

On 6/23/2022 12:03 PM, Person the human wrote:
The easier something is to do, the more harmless people will think it 
is, so you're right. Thanks.


rm wrongfile

how do I undelete?

better put deleted files in the "recycling box" and prompt users on 
every deletion by default


rm -rf /

oops!

sigh...

Bijan

Re: I *think* I found the apache2 docs, but it's in .html andIcannotgetfirefox to access it using "file:"+ /path/to/filedir

[Gareth Evans]

> On 23 Jun 2022, at 01:46, gene heskett  wrote:
> 
> On 6/22/22 19:39, Gareth Evans wrote:
>>> On Wed 22 Jun 2022, at 22:42, gene heskett  wrote:
>>> On 6/22/22 16:51, Gareth Evans wrote:
 On Wed 22 Jun 2022, at 21:16, gene heskett  wrote:
> On 6/22/22 10:45, Gareth Evans wrote:
> [and I sniped a few kilobytes of.]
> 
> I think I've got it, but I did find what may be a bug in mod auth_plain.
> 
> Its asking for a username and pw, but nothing seems to satisfy it
 I didn't see you had replied before sending my previous message, please 
 ignore.
 
 Can't find anything about mod_auth_plain but if you mean mod_auth_basic 
 this requires usernames/passwords to be set up, not looking at /etc/passwd
 
 https://www.howtogeek.com/devops/how-to-setup-basic-http-authentication-on-apache/
 
 This also has a link to setting up LetsEncrypt.
 
> , so
> I disabled it, no man page hat I can find, and now its showing me
> the directory I want as the root of this server, with one subdir
> I can click on, and the first file I put there.
> 
> However I need to compose an explanatory README to go with it as
> I had to invent my own method of installing it on a u-booting rpi.  Its a
> preempt-rt kernel needed to run the armhf version of linuxcnc from
> the buildbot. I run the bleeding edge development version on all 4
> of my machines I've built or rebuilt. I play the part of the caged
> canary in the coal mine, checking for showstoppers as development
> is ongoing and has been since the net arrived. Its a NIST project, re-
> done in gpl and was once on the no export list. See at linuxcnc.org.
> 
> So the plain text version is working and you should be able to see it at
>  (or something like that)
 Yes.
>>> Good, so I'll quit tinkering for today.
> That file in the armhf subdir is just under 30 megabytes, so if paying
> for the bandwidth, don't click on it.
> 
> Making progress, I think, Thanks Gareth.
> 
> However, if there is a way to implement a OTP so I can keep track of the
> users,
> I could use some help with that as long as I don't setup a universal pw
> the bots
> can use. What I'd like is a true OTP with a 2 week lifetime.  Can that
> be done?
 I see there are various offerings (web search for "apache otp") but there 
 doesn't seem to be an official offering.
> I haven't done that DDG search, preferring to rely more on the real users 
> experience.
> The idea being that if the bot figures its worth in, and has his master ask 
> for a OTP,
> the 1 or 2 week expiry would eventually run them off. I figure that the 
> botmasters
> patience would be used up and I would get blacklisted, based on TANSTAAFL.
> 
> They aren't using much bandwidth now, and despite the weird port #, several 
> of them
> have already started looking at me.
> 
> I know of two others working on machines to be run by rpi4's, using my kernel 
> cuz
> the foundation would never approve, but all the other machines are being 
> worked on,
> I think I am the only one on the planet actually doing it.  And I did it 
> first with a rpi3b
> but its tongue was dragging on the floor doing it. The rpi4b can run the 
> machine while building
> the next git pull of linuxcnc.  A huge difference in the efficiency between 
> that and a wintel box..
> 
> With linuxcnc not running, or with it running but F2 toggled off. power draw 
> for the pi,
> interfacing and its lcd monitor is about 22 watts. Those machines running on 
> wintel
> boxes are drawing over 200 watts each with the machine powered down.
> 
>> OK, but I mean do the non-robots.txt-compliant bots actually try to submit 
>> passwords? 
> 
> If enough of us do it in self defense, I look for then to grow the code to do 
> it.
> I don't object to them indexing my site, but on a 10 megabit cable connection,
> they use up all my upload bw on a 24/7 basis when they try to mirror it. That 
> in
> my lookup table, is a DDS. So them and the camel that rode in on them can be
> told to go to hell but I won't waste time using flowery words like our 
> senator Bird
> was so famously fond of using. He could tell you to go to hell and do it in 
> such
> flowery language that you looked forward to the trip.

OK.  That's not something I can help with from scratch, but I will watch with 
interest for further discussion.

Best wishes,
G


>> I was wondering why you are interested in OTP/scheduled password 
>> regeneration for this use case, and whether a simple (or not so simple) 
>> password may be sufficient for bandwidth preservation purposes.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> G
>> 
>> I think its called netfilter now, so I expect I better find out how to
>> use it.
>> 
>> In the meantime,  a man page for robots.txt would be nice  but I expect
>> DDG can find that..
 Best wishes,
 Gareth
>>> Take care and stay well.
>>> 
> Cheers, Gene 

Re: Re: how disable package upgrades before "Select and install software" on net.iso

[visqajin]

hello mick,

> On 2022-06-23 07:26, visqa...@yahoo.com wrote:

> hello debian users,

> twice installation failed due to error: WARNING **: Configuring
'pkgsel' failed with error code 100

>i am trying to install using 11.3 net.iso on vm. i have seen couple of
> debian bugs, however they are closed with latest iso.

>how do i resolve issue this issue?



> searching the error message a couple of suggestions may be something to do 
> with UEFI or secure boot.

there were 3 attempts, first attempt succeded with unconfigured network and 
mirror selection (for some reason), concluded that packages upgrade were 
responsible.


visja

Re: how disable package upgrades before "Select and install software" on net.iso

[mick crane]

On 2022-06-23 07:26, visqa...@yahoo.com wrote:

hello debian users,

twice installation failed due to error: WARNING **: Configuring
'pkgsel' failed with error code 100

i am trying to install using 11.3 net.iso on vm. i have seen couple of
debian bugs, however they are closed with latest iso.

how do i resolve issue this issue?


searching the error message a couple of suggestions may be something to 
do with UEFI or secure boot.


mick

Re: Feature request: install package by passing URL to apt-get

[Person the human]

The easier something is to do, the more harmless people will think it is,
so you're right. Thanks.

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 5:56 PM Dan Ritter  wrote:

> Person the human wrote:
> > Having this feature won't help me personally since I'm not using an SSD
> and
> > I don't download packages from the internet often. The reason I wanted
> this
> > to be built into apt is so that websites that would normally link to a
> file
> > and tell users to download it could instead just give users a command to
> > copy-paste into the terminal. It would help all users and change the way
> > people use apt.
>
> That would be terrible.
>
> The last thing Debian needs is people randomly installing things
> that a website told them to install. That's how you get
> malware-infested FrankenDebian.
>
> -dsr-
>

Re: és vscode programari molest?

[Marc]

El propi vscode original aquest no és gens molest.

Jo el vaig instal·lar d'un repositori per probar-lo (
http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code), el vaig tenir instal·lat durant
algunes setmanes sense fer-lo servir i l'única molèstia era que cada
setmana hi havia actualitzacions noves, però ni s'obre sol com a finestra,
ni apareix una icona a la barra d'estat, ni recordo que aparegués com a
procés actiu fent "top".

En quan al Teams, com a complement a les propostes que t'han fet de
obrir-lo via web amb Chromium, hi ha una altra opció que vaig estar
utiliitzant durant mesos i m'anava bastant bé. Amb el propi Firefox de
Debian li pots instal·lar una d'aquestes extensions d'alteració del "User
Agent" i pa'lante. La que jo vaig estar utilitzant es diu "User-Agent
Switcher and Manager".

Em sembla que li deia que el meu user agent era "Edge for Linux". Em
semblava especialment irònic que els quedés registrat això als logs, i la
part de chat del Teams funcionava perfectament. Els meetings ara mateix no
recordo.

Salut !!!

Missatge de Àlex  del dia dj., 23 de juny 2022 a les 8:17:

> Gràcies a tothom per les vostres respostes.
>
>

Re: acceso full a una ip

[fernando sainz]

Hola.

Lo mas sencillo es que busques información sobre DMZ en tu router.
Aquí el primer enlace en google:
https://www.adslzone.net/2017/01/23/abrir-puertos-dmz-ventajas-e-inconvenientes-uno/
Luego ya verás si necesitas algo mas complejo.

S2.

El jue, 23 jun 2022 a las 8:51, alfon () escribió:

> https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Iptables_(Espa%C3%B1ol)
>
> El lun, 20 jun 2022 a las 23:03, Luis D. Alvarez Navarro
> () escribió:
> >
> >
> > buenas a todos
> >
> > Necesito que me aclaren esto soy nuevo e esto de iptables.
> > Necesito a una ip de mi lan por ej la 192.168.200.3 darle acceso
> ainternet
> > full y que no tenga nada que ver con el proxy, es para que baje
> > actualizaciones y todo para servidores etc.
> >
> > puede ser así
> >
> > Ahh la ip real par el proxy por ej 200.55.55.3
> >
> > iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.200.3 -j ACCEPT
> >
> > ?? Acepto toda ayuda
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: acceso full a una ip

[alfon]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Iptables_(Espa%C3%B1ol)

El lun, 20 jun 2022 a las 23:03, Luis D. Alvarez Navarro
() escribió:
>
>
> buenas a todos
>
> Necesito que me aclaren esto soy nuevo e esto de iptables.
> Necesito a una ip de mi lan por ej la 192.168.200.3 darle acceso ainternet
> full y que no tenga nada que ver con el proxy, es para que baje
> actualizaciones y todo para servidores etc.
>
> puede ser así
>
> Ahh la ip real par el proxy por ej 200.55.55.3
>
> iptables -A INPUT -s 192.168.200.3 -j ACCEPT
>
> ?? Acepto toda ayuda
>
>
>
>

how disable package upgrades before "Select and install software" on net.iso

[visqajin]

hello debian users,

twice installation failed due to error: WARNING **: Configuring 'pkgsel' failed 
with error code 100

i am trying to install using 11.3 net.iso on vm. i have seen couple of debian 
bugs, however they are closed with latest iso.

how do i resolve issue this issue?

regards,
visqa

Re: és vscode programari molest?

[Àlex]

Gràcies a tothom per les vostres respostes.