Re: Installing an archive version of Debian
On Fri 30 Sep 2022 at 15:47:21 (-0700), David Hoff Jr wrote: > I am attempting to install 32 bit Debian 7 to a old netbook which is the > last version of Debian where the text to speech voice Voxin IBM voice > works correctly in the console.. > In the text installer, when given the choice to choose a mirror I choose > choice number 1 which is to do it manually. I am then asked 2 questions, > the (1) host name and (2) the directory. > 1. what do I use for the "host name" archive.debian.org > 2. What do I use for the "directory" /debian (untested.) Cheers, David.
Re: linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64
On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 08:39, John Boxall wrote: > On 2022-09-30 13:31, Dan Ritter wrote: > > Marc Auslander wrote: > >> linux-image-amd64 wants linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64 but only > >> linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64-unsigned show up in a search. > > linux-image-amd64 is a virtual package that pulls in the > > specific package that your machine architecture needs. > I have a similar (same?) problem with my system. > > apt list -a --upgradable > Listing... Done > linux-image-amd64/oldstable 4.19+105+deb10u17 amd64 [upgradable from: > 4.19+105+deb10u16] > linux-image-amd64/oldstable,now 4.19+105+deb10u16 amd64 [installed,upgradable > to: 4.19+105+deb10u17] > When I try either an "apt upgrade" or "apt full-upgrade", the package is > not upgraded to "4.19+105+deb10u17". > Could this be a result of there being no more updates to buster? Might be this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1021012
Re: Allocate tty1 for kernel messages
On Sat, Oct 01, 2022 at 12:43:37AM +0200, Dmitry Katsubo wrote: > I have disabled and stopped this service: > > # systemctl status getty@tty1.service > ● getty@tty1.service - Getty on tty1 > Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service; disabled; vendor > preset: enabled) > Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/getty@.service.d > └─noclear.conf > Active: inactive (dead) >Docs: man:agetty(8) > man:systemd-getty-generator(8) > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/serial-console.html > > Sep 26 00:10:34 debian systemd[1]: Started Getty on tty1. > Sep 26 01:20:43 debian systemd[1]: Stopping Getty on tty1... > Sep 26 01:20:43 debian systemd[1]: getty@tty1.service: Succeeded. > Sep 26 01:20:43 debian systemd[1]: Stopped Getty on tty1. > > I believe after that the "login:" prompt should disappear from tty1, but it > didn't. Should I reboot to make this setting active? Well, text that has been written to a terminal won't magically vanish from that terminal. Is the login prompt actually *functional*? If you hit Enter, do you get another one? Or does the cursor just move down?
Installing an archive version of Debian
I am attempting to install 32 bit Debian 7 to a old netbook which is the last version of Debian where the text to speech voice Voxin IBM voice works correctly in the console.. In the text installer, when given the choice to choose a mirror I choose choice number 1 which is to do it manually. I am then asked 2 questions, the (1) host name and (2) the directory. 1. what do I use for the "host name" 2. What do I use for the "directory" Thanks --
Re: Allocate tty1 for kernel messages
On 2022-09-25 17:52, basti wrote: > Am 25.09.22 um 17:25 schrieb David Wright: >> On Sun 25 Sep 2022 at 17:01:23 (+0200), Dmitry Katsubo wrote: >>> I am trying to make a following setup on Debian bullseye: >>> >>> * tty1 is used to display kernel messages only >>> * tty[2-5] are allocated for login >>> >>> I have modified /etc/default/console-setup so that it reads: >>> >>> ACTIVE_CONSOLES="/dev/tty[2-5]" >>> >>> and rebooted. What I observe is that tty1 displays kernel messages during >>> the boot (OK) but also ends with an invitation for login on tty1 (WRONG). >>> >>> How can I force that tty1 is not used for login? >> >> I think you still need to run: >> >> # dpkg-reconfigure console-setup >> >> to get that variable enacted. Then check that the file >> /etc/console-setup/cached_setup_keyboard.sh, which AIUI >> is what does the work, has been modified. >> >> That's similar for a lot of configuration parameters >> in /etc/default/. David, thanks for your input. I have run "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" and rebooted and it didn't help. > Hello, > > first of all disable login on tty1: > > systemctl disable getty@tty1.service I have disabled and stopped this service: # systemctl status getty@tty1.service ● getty@tty1.service - Getty on tty1 Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/getty@.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled) Drop-In: /etc/systemd/system/getty@.service.d └─noclear.conf Active: inactive (dead) Docs: man:agetty(8) man:systemd-getty-generator(8) http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/serial-console.html Sep 26 00:10:34 debian systemd[1]: Started Getty on tty1. Sep 26 01:20:43 debian systemd[1]: Stopping Getty on tty1... Sep 26 01:20:43 debian systemd[1]: getty@tty1.service: Succeeded. Sep 26 01:20:43 debian systemd[1]: Stopped Getty on tty1. I believe after that the "login:" prompt should disappear from tty1, but it didn't. Should I reboot to make this setting active? > Then in /etc/systemd/journald.conf: > (or in one of the conf.d folders, see man journald.conf.d) > > ForwardToConsole=yes > TTYPath=/dev/tty1 > > Will do it. That will forward kernel messages to tty1, right? -- With best regards, Dmitry
Re: linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64
On 2022-09-30 13:31, Dan Ritter wrote: Marc Auslander wrote: linux-image-amd64 wants linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64 but only linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64-unsigned show up in a search. You are on an old version of Debian. Upgrade to the current stable version or go digging through the archives to get what you want. linux-image-amd64 is a virtual package that pulls in the specific package that your machine architecture needs. You can apt install linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64-unsigned instead. If you don't use UEFI Secure Boot -- and you probably don't -- the unsigned package does everything you need. -dsr- I have a similar (same?) problem with my system. apt list -a --upgradable Listing... Done linux-image-amd64/oldstable 4.19+105+deb10u17 amd64 [upgradable from: 4.19+105+deb10u16] linux-image-amd64/oldstable,now 4.19+105+deb10u16 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 4.19+105+deb10u17] dpkg -l | grep linux-image rc linux-image-4.19.0-13-amd64 4.19.160-2 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) rc linux-image-4.19.0-14-amd64 4.19.171-2 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) rc linux-image-4.19.0-16-amd64 4.19.181-1 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) rc linux-image-4.19.0-17-amd64 4.19.194-3 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) rc linux-image-4.19.0-18-amd64 4.19.208-1 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) rc linux-image-4.19.0-19-amd64 4.19.232-1 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) ii linux-image-4.19.0-20-amd64 4.19.235-1 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) ii linux-image-4.19.0-21-amd64 4.19.249-2 amd64Linux 4.19 for 64-bit PCs (signed) ii linux-image-amd644.19+105+deb10u16 amd64Linux for 64-bit PCs (meta-package) When I try either an "apt upgrade" or "apt full-upgrade", the package is not upgraded to "4.19+105+deb10u17". Could this be a result of there being no more updates to buster? -- Regards, John Boxall
Nettoyage du spam : septembre 2022
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Re: Re: SSD Optimization - Crucial CT1000MX500SSD1
Hello, On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:56:22PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: > === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === > SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 > Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining LifeTime(hours) > LBA_of_first_error > # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 507 - Well, I did suggest a "long" self-test whereas you appear to have only done a short one. Others' suggestions to replace the SATA cables and try different ports was a better call that slipped my mind, but I think I read further down the thread that this is a laptop so maybe you can't do that. Cheers, Andy
Re: Thunderbird 102 & {Cal,Card}DAV
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 12:57:00PM +0200, Geert Stappers wrote: > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:28:23PM +0200, Richard Lucassen wrote: > > On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 21:09:16 +0200 Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > > > > Ik ben over op Thunderbird versie 102, die zit bij de security > > > updates. Tot nu toe bevalt hij me wel. > > > > > > Ik had wel wat problemen met de nieuwsgroepen support. Eerst was de > > > nieuwsserver verdwenen. Na afsluiten en opstarten van Thunderbird was > > > hij er weer, maar hij vroeg wel opnieuw naar username en wachtwoord. > > > > > > Het adresboek is herschreven en staat nu eindelijk in een tab. > > > > > > > Ook cardav en caldav is nu beter geregeld :) > > > > (hierboven staat ook een :) > > > In mijn Thunderbird, versie 102.3, installatie vind ik wel agenda en > adresboek dingen. Wat ik nog niet gevonden heb, is de plek voor het > configuren van de CalDAV en/of CardDAV server. > > Onder welk menu zou ik beter moeten kijken? > > > Het zou ook kunnen dat ik een plugin mis, dat ik eerst een thunderbird > plugin moet installeren. Ik deed `apt search thunderbird` met de hoop > om het missende onderdeel te vinden. > Zo vond ik Debian package "webext-dav4tbsync". > > $ apt show webext-dav4tbsync 2> /dev/null | sed --quiet '/^Descr/,$p' > Description: Provide CalDAV & CardDAV for TbSync > The CalDAV & CardDAV Provider for TbSync to sync contacts, tasks and > calendars to Thunderbird. > . > Most CalDAV & CardDAV servers provide a discovery service, which allows > one to use just the plain server name (FQDN) like "cloud.server.com" as > server URL. TbSync will find all available calendars and address books > and there is no need to know any specific URLs for individual address > books or calendars. If this does not work because your server does not > provide the discovery service, you have to enter the full path to the > dav server itself, like "cloud.server.com/SOGo/dav". > . > This provider also includes some pre-defined service profiles for easy > setup of accounts of iCloud, Yahoo!, Fruux and others. > > > Zou ik dat moeten lezen als: > Zorg dat er discovery service is die vertelt waar de Ca{l,rd}DAV > server staat en dan hoef je die in TB niet meer te configuren. > ?? > Van https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/dav-4-tbsync/ deze tekst: Note: Thunderbird 102 natively supports CalDAV & CardDAV sync and this provider for TbSync is technically no longer needed. You can setup your CardDAV contacts and CalDAV calendars without TbSync. Dat lees ik als "Geen extra plugin meer nodig" > > Of 'Ook cardav en caldav is nu beter geregeld :)' lezen als > De net niet vlekkeloos is nu minder net niet vlekkeloos > ?? > > Ook dan ben ik benieuwd naar de ervaringen.:-) Vooral naar tips om CardDAV-client en CardDAV-server met elkaar in contact te brengen. Groeten Geert Stappers -- $ echo {Cal,Card}DAV CalDAV CardDAV $
Re: Scrollbar terug in Firefox
On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 11:45:46AM +0200, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > Gijs Hillenius writes: > > On 29 September 2022 16:40 Cecil Westerhof, wrote: > > > >> Ik ben net gemigreerd van Firefox 91.13 naar 102.3. Bij de oude had ik > >> een echte scrollbar, maar bij de nieuwe een hele smalle, die ook maar > >> heel even zichtbaar is. > >> Is er een mogelijkheid om de oude functionaliteit terug te krijgen? > > > > ja. > > > > in settings: always show scrollbars aanvinken. > > Dat werkt. Ze zijn smaller als ze waren, > maar daar kan ik prima mee leven. Op mijn XFCE systeem had ik scrollbars van firefox nog niet gemist. Als ik er op let dan, dan mis ik ze nog steeds niet. Bij het bewegen van mijn muis is de s.b. even zichtbaar. En inderdaad, erg smal. ( mijn inziens wel zo fijn ) Voor scrollen gebruik ik het scrollwieltje op mijn muis, dat is zonder "aanraken" van de s.b.. > Wel vreemd dat dit ongemerkt wordt aangepast. | stappers@myhost:/usr/src | $ debcheckout firefox | declared git repository at https://salsa.debian.org/mozilla-team/firefox.git -b release/master | git clone https://salsa.debian.org/mozilla-team/firefox.git -b release/master firefox ... | Cloning into 'firefox'... | remote: Enumerating objects: 2963185, done. | remote: Counting objects: 100% (49159/49159), done. | remote: Compressing objects: 100% (32009/32009), done. | remote: Total 2963185 (delta 18912), reused 38109 (delta 16075), pack-reused 2914026 | Receiving objects: 100% (2963185/2963185), 3.78 GiB | 2.10 MiB/s, done. | Resolving deltas: 100% (2200861/2200861), done. | Updating files: 100% (384063/384063), done. | stappers@myhost:/usr/src | $ cd firefox/ | stappers@myhost:/usr/src/firefox | $ git log --grep scroll | stappers@myhost:/usr/src/firefox | $ git log --grep=scroll | stappers@myhost:/usr/src/firefox | $ Mijn inschatting is, dat het wel te vinden is. Groeten Geert Stappers https://lists.debian.org/debian-events-nl/2022/09/msg0.html -- Silence is hard to parse
Re: SSD Optimization - Crucial CT1000MX500SSD1
On 9/29/22 06:54, Marcelo Laia wrote: Recently, I bought a SSD SATA Crucial CT1000MX500SSD1. :~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda https://pastebin.com/Jyrhn1A2 :~$ sudo journalctl --since "2022-09-25 00:00:00" | grep sda https://pastebin.com/QtCqpJPm :~$ sudo journalctl --since "2022-09-25 00:00:00" | grep ata1 https://pastebin.com/x5QdaYQU :~$ sudo journalctl --since "2022-09-25 00:00:00" | grep error https://pastebin.com/1hEPm7YX On 9/29/22 12:40, David Christensen wrote: The many "ATA bus error" messages indicate that you have a bad connection between your motherboard and the SSD. You need to correct this problem first. On 9/30/22 08:57, Marcelo Laia wrote: >>$ sudo inxi -a -v 8 -za > > https://pastebin.com/iAvJrXdB So, a 2014 Dell Inspiron 5547 laptop. You did not state that earlier, so I assumed it was a desktop/ server system... Laptop HDD/SSD cables are very specific. Getting a replacement could be easy or could be hard. Contact Dell to see if the part is available. I have never concluded a laptop HDD/SSD cable was bad, but I have not encountered many. You will have to decide if you want to replace yours. I would try to eliminate other possibilities first. Please post: # cat /etc/debian_version ; uname -a Connect an Ethernet cable. Disable the Wi-Fi via CMOS Setup. Boot a recent Debian installer into a rescue shell. For example (you may see different questions; adjust your answers as needed): debian-11.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso Debian GNU/Linux installer menu -> Advanced options -> Rescue mode -> Language -> C -> Continent or region -> North America -> Country, territory or area -> United States -> Keymap to use -> American English -> Load missing firmware from removable media -> No -> Primary network interface -> eth0: Ethernet -> Hostname -> debian -> Domain name -> -> Select your time zone -> Pacific -> Passphrase for /dev/sda3 -> -> Device to use as root file system -> Do not use a root file system -> Rescue operations -> Execute a shell in the installer environment -> Executing a shell -> Continue Does dmesg(1) show any errors? # dmesg | grep error If you read 10 GiB from the SSD: # date ; dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1M count=10k ; date How long does it take? Were there any error messages? Does dmesg(1) show any errors? Power off when done: # poweroff If you remove the Crucial SSD, install the previous HDD/SSD, and exercise it with the Debian installer rescue shell, do you see any errors? David
Re: Plugin HP
Eurêka ! - télécharger le plugin avec wget(ici la hplip-3.22.6) : wget https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.22.6-plugin.run - lancer un script (pas de sudo ni root) ./hplip-3.22.6-plugin.run L'installation s'ouvre en GUI. Et ça marche !!! @ Xavier : dis-nous si pour toi aussi, c'est ok. Bonne soirée Sylvie On 30/09/2022 18:43, Bureau LxVx wrote: Bonsoir et merci de votre aide. @P Merlin : ça dépend des imprimantes @Hamster : > Est-ce que le dépot non-free est activé dans son sources.list ? oui @David : > ça dépend de l'imprimante, pour scanner avec la mienne (MFP m125nw) il > faut installer un plugin qui est un bout de firmware binaire fourni > par HP mais qui n'est pas dans les paquets debian à ce qu'il semble oui, c'est le cas :-( Quelle version de hplip as-tu ? perso, j'ai dernier : @Xavier : je n'ai même pas d'impression : il FAUT le plugin ... Aussi, je viens de refaire une install complète avec toutes les "non-free" Je viens de découvrir que le hplip.run doit être lancé non-root .. Une alerte dans le terminal ... Ok. fin d'install : Redémarrage demandé en cours ... Demande de page test >> Driver plugin installation : "file does not match its checksum. File may have been corrupted or altered" Failed to install Plug-in. Either you have chosen to skip the plug-in installation or entered incorrect password ... Ni l'un ni l'autre :-( Dans le fichier "plugin" correspondant https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run Comment vérifier le checksum ou MD5 visible dans le script ? > CRCsum="515935464" > MD5="3b6bcfaccc9b698544899b3fd8b0193c" Une solution ? Merci Sylvie Le 30/09/2022 à 17:40, Xavier BAR a écrit : > Bonjour à tous. > > J'ai exactement le même pb. > Un hp-plugin ou hp-plugin -i me donnent la même erreur. > La partie impression fonctionne parfaitement. Mais pas la partie > numérisation qui nécessite le plugin. Sans lui le scanner n'est pas > détecté par le numériseur de documents. > Si vous trouvez la solution je suis preneur. > Cordialement. > Xavier. > > 30 sept. 2022 15:43:14 Bureau LxVx : > > Bonjour, > > Sur le pc d'un am et une debian toute fraîche et mise à jour, je > ne réussis > pas à installer / finaliser le HPLIP. > A la fin de l'installation, impossibilité d'imprimer la page test. > Il manque le plugin : ok > > Toutefois, l'installation de ce plugin et du lancement du .run > https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run > se termine par checksum corrompu. > > Et cela que ce soit la dernière version hplip téléchargée sur > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing : Version: > 3.22.6 > Clé du plugin correspondant corrompue > > ou celle de synaptic : > 3.21.2+dfsg1-2 (unstable ?) > > https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run > Dans le script : HPLIP 3.21.2 Plugin Self Extracting Archive" > > J'espère avoir été assez claire ... > > Merci de votre aide. > > Bien librement, > > Sylvie >
Re: linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64
Marc Auslander wrote: > linux-image-amd64 wants linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64 but only > linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64-unsigned show up in a search. You are on an old version of Debian. Upgrade to the current stable version or go digging through the archives to get what you want. linux-image-amd64 is a virtual package that pulls in the specific package that your machine architecture needs. You can apt install linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64-unsigned instead. If you don't use UEFI Secure Boot -- and you probably don't -- the unsigned package does everything you need. -dsr-
Unable to unmask pipewire-pulse.socket
I followed the instructions here [1] and [2] to install pipewire audio support. However, it's unable to unmask pipewire-pulse.socket. I tried: :~$ systemctl --user --now enable pipewire{,-pulse}.{socket,service} filter-chain.service Failed to enable unit: Unit file /etc/xdg/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.socket is masked. :~$ systemctl --user --now enable pipewire pipewire-pulse Failed to enable unit: Unit file /etc/xdg/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service is masked. If I run: :~$ systemctl --user unmask pipewire.service nothing is output More info :~$ sudo apt policy pipewire pipewire-audio-client-libraries [sudo] senha para : pipewire: Instalado: 0.3.58-2 Candidato: 0.3.58-2 Tabela de versão: *** 0.3.58-2 990 990 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages 49 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.3.19-4 100 100 http://deb.debian.org/debian stable/main amd64 Packages pipewire-audio-client-libraries: Instalado: 0.3.58-2 Candidato: 0.3.58-2 Tabela de versão: *** 0.3.58-2 990 990 http://deb.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 Packages 49 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable/main amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 0.3.19-4 100 100 http://deb.debian.org/debian stable/main amd64 Packages :~$ ls /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/ with-pulseaudio :~$ ls /etc/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.s* /etc/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service /etc/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.socket :~$ systemctl --user daemon-reload :~$ :~$ systemctl --user --now disable pulseaudio.service pulseaudio.socket Unit /home/marcelo/.config/systemd/user/pulseaudio.service is masked, ignoring. :~$ systemctl --user --now enable pipewire pipewire-pulse Failed to enable unit: Unit file /etc/xdg/systemd/user/pipewire-pulse.service is masked. After here, I'm unable to unmask it. :~$ pactl info Falha na conexão: Conexão recusada pa_context_new() falhou: Conexão recusada Have you any advices? Thank you so much! -- Marcelo
linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64
linux-image-amd64 wants linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64 but only linux-image-4.19.0-22-amd64-unsigned show up in a search.
Re: Plugin HP
Bonsoir et merci de votre aide. @P Merlin : ça dépend des imprimantes @Hamster : Est-ce que le dépot non-free est activé dans son sources.list ? oui @David : ça dépend de l'imprimante, pour scanner avec la mienne (MFP m125nw) il faut installer un plugin qui est un bout de firmware binaire fourni par HP mais qui n'est pas dans les paquets debian à ce qu'il semble oui, c'est le cas :-( Quelle version de hplip as-tu ? perso, j'ai dernier : @Xavier : je n'ai même pas d'impression : il FAUT le plugin ... Aussi, je viens de refaire une install complète avec toutes les "non-free" Je viens de découvrir que le hplip.run doit être lancé non-root .. Une alerte dans le terminal ... Ok. fin d'install : Redémarrage demandé en cours ... Demande de page test >> Driver plugin installation : "file does not match its checksum. File may have been corrupted or altered" Failed to install Plug-in. Either you have chosen to skip the plug-in installation or entered incorrect password ... Ni l'un ni l'autre :-( Dans le fichier "plugin" correspondant https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run Comment vérifier le checksum ou MD5 visible dans le script ? CRCsum="515935464" MD5="3b6bcfaccc9b698544899b3fd8b0193c" Une solution ? Merci Sylvie Le 30/09/2022 à 17:40, Xavier BAR a écrit : Bonjour à tous. J'ai exactement le même pb. Un hp-plugin ou hp-plugin -i me donnent la même erreur. La partie impression fonctionne parfaitement. Mais pas la partie numérisation qui nécessite le plugin. Sans lui le scanner n'est pas détecté par le numériseur de documents. Si vous trouvez la solution je suis preneur. Cordialement. Xavier. 30 sept. 2022 15:43:14 Bureau LxVx : Bonjour, Sur le pc d'un am et une debian toute fraîche et mise à jour, je ne réussis pas à installer / finaliser le HPLIP. A la fin de l'installation, impossibilité d'imprimer la page test. Il manque le plugin : ok Toutefois, l'installation de ce plugin et du lancement du .run https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run se termine par checksum corrompu. Et cela que ce soit la dernière version hplip téléchargée sur https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing : Version: 3.22.6 Clé du plugin correspondant corrompue ou celle de synaptic : 3.21.2+dfsg1-2 (unstable ?) https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run Dans le script : HPLIP 3.21.2 Plugin Self Extracting Archive" J'espère avoir été assez claire ... Merci de votre aide. Bien librement, Sylvie
Re: Re: SSD Optimization - Crucial CT1000MX500SSD1
Can you show us more info about your PC/Laptop? A report from "inxi" would be great. You can get all possible info and filter out private data, with these parameters: $ sudo inxi -a -v 8 -za https://pastebin.com/iAvJrXdB -- Marcelo
Re: Re: SSD Optimization - Crucial CT1000MX500SSD1
I'd try to make the drive do a "long" SMART self-test and if it failed it I'd immediately RMA it. # smartctl -t long /dev/sda4 Then to view progress/result: # smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda smartctl 7.3 2022-02-28 r5338 [x86_64-linux-5.19.0-2-amd64] (local build) Copyright (C) 2002-22, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION === SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1 Num Test_DescriptionStatus Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error # 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 507 - -- Marcelo
Re: Plugin HP
Bonjour à tous. J'ai exactement le même pb. Un hp-plugin ou hp-plugin -i me donnent la même erreur. La partie impression fonctionne parfaitement. Mais pas la partie numérisation qui nécessite le plugin. Sans lui le scanner n'est pas détecté par le numériseur de documents. Si vous trouvez la solution je suis preneur. Cordialement. Xavier. 30 sept. 2022 15:43:14 Bureau LxVx : > Bonjour, > > Sur le pc d'un am et une debian toute fraîche et mise à jour, je ne réussis > pas à installer / finaliser le HPLIP. > A la fin de l'installation, impossibilité d'imprimer la page test. > Il manque le plugin : ok > > Toutefois, l'installation de ce plugin et du lancement du .run > https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run > se termine par checksum corrompu. > > Et cela que ce soit la dernière version hplip téléchargée sur > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing : Version: 3.22.6 > Clé du plugin correspondant corrompue > > ou celle de synaptic : > 3.21.2+dfsg1-2 (unstable ?) > > https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run > Dans le script : HPLIP 3.21.2 Plugin Self Extracting Archive" > > J'espère avoir été assez claire ... > > Merci de votre aide. > > Bien librement, > > Sylvie
Re: Plugin HP
Le 30/09/2022 à 17:11, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Le vendredi 30 septembre 2022, 15:42:43 CEST Bureau LxVx a écrit : Bonjour, Sur le pc d'un am et une debian toute fraîche et mise à jour, je ne réussis pas à installer / finaliser le HPLIP. A la fin de l'installation, impossibilité d'imprimer la page test. Il manque le plugin : ok Toutefois, l'installation de ce plugin et du lancement du .run https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run se termine par checksum corrompu. Et cela que ce soit la dernière version hplip téléchargée sur https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing : Version: 3.22.6 Clé du plugin correspondant corrompue ou celle de synaptic : 3.21.2+dfsg1-2 (unstable ?) https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run Dans le script : HPLIP 3.21.2 Plugin Self Extracting Archive" J'espère avoir été assez claire ... Merci de votre aide. Bien librement, Sylvie Pouquoi installer un plugin ? normalement l'installation de hplip suffit, Sur mon ordi : hplip hplip-data hplip-cups hplip-gui venant sûrement de debian non-free hplip, hplip-data, hplip-gui 3.22.6 Sid Amicalement Philippe Merlin ça dépend de l'imprimante, pour scanner avec la mienne (MFP m125nw) il faut installer un plugin qui est un bout de firmware binaire fourni par HP mais qui n'est pas dans les paquets debian à ce qu'il semble
Re: Plugin HP
Le 30/09/2022 à 17:11, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Pouquoi installer un plugin ? normalement l'installation de hplip suffit, Sur mon ordi : hplip hplip-data hplip-cups hplip-gui venant sûrement de debian non-free hplip, hplip-data, hplip-gui 3.22.6 Sid Est-ce que le dépot non-free est activé dans son sources.list ?
Re: firmware
Bom dia! Oki muito obrigado pela ajuda! Em qui., 29 de set. de 2022 às 21:27, Yuri Musachio escreveu: > Pedro, boa noite! > > Vê se essa informação te ajuda: > https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/unsubscribe > > > > > Best, > > On Sep 29 2022, at 9:19 pm, PEDRO H SANTORO > wrote: > > Gente boa noite! > > Como faço para sair desta lista de transmissaão, tentei aqui mas não > consegui, podem me ajudar? > > Vlw > > Em qui., 29 de set. de 2022 às 21:07, maikon leao > escreveu: > > Boa noite Yuri, concordo com sua mensagem em todos os sentidos, vamos aos > detalhes peguei certinho: > > - Processador Intel CPU i5-11400, 2.6Ghz, 12MB Cache, LGA 1200. > > - Placa Mãe Asus Prime H510M-E > > - Memória Ram - DDR4 - 16GB velocidade de barramento 2666Mhz > > Ao instalar o Debian usando a imagem oficial no site debian.org tanto a > main quanto nonfree meus monitores que ficam um na porta VGA e outro na > porta HDMI não são detectados, ou seja, funcionam, mas não são reconhecidos > para serem configurados as resoluções e ele me mostra como monitor > desconhecido e são os mesmos monitores que > eu uso no notebook samsung vaio i3 e funciona normalmente com a versão > Debian atual. > > Quando mencionei o fato de testar meu hardware em outra SO era para ter > certeza de que minha BIOS está configurada corretamente e o mais importante > era saber se eu estava com defeito em meu hardware para acionar a garantia, > entretanto funcionou e por isso pedi ajuda aqui na comunidade pois sei que > como você mencionou se nas > distribuições baseadas no Debian funcionam no Debian também funciona isso > é fato. > > > O Debian para mim é muito importante em minha filosofia e > tecnologia/estudos/trabalho em meus objetivos. > > Agradeço Yuri em ajudar, se tiver detalhes, dica, sugestão eu faço porque > quero meu Debian funcionando neste PC. > > *De:* Yuri Musachio > *Enviado:* quinta-feira, 29 de setembro de 2022 20:06 > *Para:* maikonle...@hotmail.com > *Cc:* Antonio Terceiro ; dup < > debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org>; Fábio Rabelo < > fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br> > *Assunto:* Re: firmware > > Maikon, boa noite! > > Não entendi bem o que está acontecendo... Mas, vamos lá! > Você hoje usa: uma placa-mãe com chipset relativamente "novo"; usa um i5 > de 11th geração; diz estar usando a porta HDMI on-boarding da placa-mãe; > informou que usou outras distros como o Kali e funcionou o video. > Tenho certas resalvas aqui para fazer: > > 1 - As placas mães de uns anos pra cá, elas por si só, não possuem mais > placa gráfica. Sendo assim, o video é gerado pelo processador (se houver > suporte) e/ou placa de video off-board. O que não parece ser o seu caso. > 2 - Você informou um modelo de processador que não possui video integrado, > e nesse caso precisaria de uma placa de video off-board. > 3 - Não chegou a mencionar se há alguma placa de video off-board, mas > disse que nos seus testes funcionou usando o Kali. > 4 - Você disse que utilizando uma porta VGA o video funciona corretamente, > mas ao plugar a porta HDMI junto ou separadamente ele não da vídeo. > > > Bem, acho que você possui um processador que possui suporte a video e > talvez só tenha informado a versão do processador errada, mas HÁ alguma > coisa fornecendo video ai na sua máquina... Só tem que conseguir > identificar certinho o que é. > Usou a midia Oficial pra instalar o Debian (só main) ou a Unoficial (com > pacotes non-free) pra instalar o sistema? > > Uma coisa que a galera fala é: "Funciona no Ubuntu...", "Funciona no > Kali...". "Funciona no Mint...". > Todas essas distros derivam (de alguma forma) do Debian. Se elas conseguem > fazer, então pode ter certeza que o Debian também consegue! > O máximo de informação que você puder fornecer vai ser legal pra gente > conseguir te ajudar de alguma forma. Beleza? > > > Ps: Nunca desista do Debian! > > > > > > > Best, > > On Sep 29 2022, at 5:54 pm, Fábio Rabelo > wrote: > > Boa tarde . > > O problema não se relaciona a múltiplos monitores, este é apenas um efeito > colateral do problema . > > O problema se relaciona com as portas HDMI . > > Neste exato momento tenho um MiniPC marca Zotac que só reconhece o meu > monitor ( um Dell ) na porta HDMI, já testei em mais de 10 monitores > diferentes, e de quebra 2 aparelhos de TV . > > Nenhum deles mostra nada na tela, mesmo tendo apenas um monitor ligado . > > Serei obrigado a usar um Ubuntu neste sujeito se quiser usar para alguma > coisa. ( o Ubuntu Studio reconhece qualquer monitor neste MiniCP ! ) > > Em 2015, qdo tive este problema eu encontrei este post, e entrei no site > em questão, mas não me lembro do nome. e nem guardei o link p/o fórum, > sorry . > > Eu me lembro que na época foi um tutorial de como instalar os drivers > proprietários da Nvidia que me levou a este post e a este site . > > Neste tutorial havia um script que baixava este banco de dados de EDID . > > Não sei se nenhum destes sites ainda existe . > > > Fábio Rabelo > > > Em qui., 29 de
Re: Plugin HP
Le vendredi 30 septembre 2022, 15:42:43 CEST Bureau LxVx a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Sur le pc d'un am et une debian toute fraîche et mise à jour, je ne réussis > pas à installer / finaliser le HPLIP. > A la fin de l'installation, impossibilité d'imprimer la page test. > Il manque le plugin : ok > > Toutefois, l'installation de ce plugin et du lancement du .run > https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run > se termine par checksum corrompu. > > Et cela que ce soit la dernière version hplip téléchargée sur > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing : Version: 3.22.6 > Clé du plugin correspondant corrompue > > ou celle de synaptic : > 3.21.2+dfsg1-2 (unstable ?) > > https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run > Dans le script : HPLIP 3.21.2 Plugin Self Extracting Archive" > > J'espère avoir été assez claire ... > > Merci de votre aide. > > Bien librement, > > Sylvie Pouquoi installer un plugin ? normalement l'installation de hplip suffit, Sur mon ordi : hplip hplip-data hplip-cups hplip-gui venant sûrement de debian non-free hplip, hplip-data, hplip-gui 3.22.6 Sid Amicalement Philippe Merlin
Re: Modification sur la page https://www.debian.org/support.fr.html
Le vendredi 30 septembre 2022 à 12:39 +, l...@forum-debian.fr a écrit : > Bonjour la liste, > > Notre forum a changé de nom de domaine, et je souhaite faire changer > l'URL (ie remplacer https://debian-fr.xyz par > https://forum-debian.fr) sur cette page: > https://www.debian.org/support.fr.html > > Pouvez-vous me dire qui contacter pour ce genre de demande (J'avais > trouvé il y a 6 ans, mais je ne trouve plus le contact...) ? > > Merci beaucoup. > Laurent. Bonjour, d'après https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/Webmaster , peut-être envoyer un mail à webmaster@d.o
Plugin HP
Bonjour, Sur le pc d'un am et une debian toute fraîche et mise à jour, je ne réussis pas à installer / finaliser le HPLIP. A la fin de l'installation, impossibilité d'imprimer la page test. Il manque le plugin : ok Toutefois, l'installation de ce plugin et du lancement du .run https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run se termine par checksum corrompu. Et cela que ce soit la dernière version hplip téléchargée sur https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing : Version: 3.22.6 Clé du plugin correspondant corrompue ou celle de synaptic : 3.21.2+dfsg1-2 (unstable ?) https://developers.hp.com/sites/default/files/hplip-3.21.2-plugin.run Dans le script : HPLIP 3.21.2 Plugin Self Extracting Archive" J'espère avoir été assez claire ... Merci de votre aide. Bien librement, Sylvie
Modification sur la page https://www.debian.org/support.fr.html
Bonjour la liste, Notre forum a changé de nom de domaine, et je souhaite faire changer l'URL (ie remplacer https://debian-fr.xyz par https://forum-debian.fr) sur cette page: https://www.debian.org/support.fr.html Pouvez-vous me dire qui contacter pour ce genre de demande (J'avais trouvé il y a 6 ans, mais je ne trouve plus le contact...) ? Merci beaucoup. Laurent.
Re: Thank you for downloading Debian!
Hi, Loren wrote: > I attempted to download the current version and in the middle of > downloading Bit Torrent reset my browser. [...] > Now what do I do? I'd try plain https download. E.g if you wanted to get by Bit Torrent: https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/debian-11.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso.torrent then use your browser or a command line program like "wget" to download https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/debian-11.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso (Other versions than 11.5.0 or other processor types than "amd64" will of course need other download URLs. Giving us the URLs of what and where you tried would help with giving you advise and/or finding out what went wrong.) Have a nice day :) Thomas
Thank you for downloading Debian!
I attempted to download the current version and in the middle of downloading Bit Torrent reset my browser. When I opened my browser again, the download did not restart and when I go to the website again to attempt to download it again it takes me to the page stating "Thank you for downloading Debian!" I don't want to go to another computer to try to download it again, and I only have a 1/3 of the file right now. I have tried deleting the file, clearing my browser settings including the site settings. Now what do I do? Loren
Re: Thunderbird 102 & {Cal,Card}DAV
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 10:28:23PM +0200, Richard Lucassen wrote: > On Thu, 29 Sep 2022 21:09:16 +0200 Paul van der Vlis wrote: > > > Ik ben over op Thunderbird versie 102, die zit bij de security > > updates. Tot nu toe bevalt hij me wel. > > > > Ik had wel wat problemen met de nieuwsgroepen support. Eerst was de > > nieuwsserver verdwenen. Na afsluiten en opstarten van Thunderbird was > > hij er weer, maar hij vroeg wel opnieuw naar username en wachtwoord. > > > > Het adresboek is herschreven en staat nu eindelijk in een tab. > > > > Ook cardav en caldav is nu beter geregeld :) > (hierboven staat ook een :) In mijn Thunderbird, versie 102.3, installatie vind ik wel agenda en adresboek dingen. Wat ik nog niet gevonden heb, is de plek voor het configuren van de CalDAV en/of CardDAV server. Onder welk menu zou ik beter moeten kijken? Het zou ook kunnen dat ik een plugin mis, dat ik eerst een thunderbird plugin moet installeren. Ik deed `apt search thunderbird` met de hoop om het missende onderdeel te vinden. Zo vond ik Debian package "webext-dav4tbsync". $ apt show webext-dav4tbsync 2> /dev/null | sed --quiet '/^Descr/,$p' Description: Provide CalDAV & CardDAV for TbSync The CalDAV & CardDAV Provider for TbSync to sync contacts, tasks and calendars to Thunderbird. . Most CalDAV & CardDAV servers provide a discovery service, which allows one to use just the plain server name (FQDN) like "cloud.server.com" as server URL. TbSync will find all available calendars and address books and there is no need to know any specific URLs for individual address books or calendars. If this does not work because your server does not provide the discovery service, you have to enter the full path to the dav server itself, like "cloud.server.com/SOGo/dav". . This provider also includes some pre-defined service profiles for easy setup of accounts of iCloud, Yahoo!, Fruux and others. Zou ik dat moeten lezen als: Zorg dat er discovery service is die vertelt waar de Ca{l,rd}DAV server staat en dan hoef je die in TB niet meer te configuren. ?? Of 'Ook cardav en caldav is nu beter geregeld :)' lezen als De net niet vlekkeloos is nu minder net niet vlekkeloos ?? Ook dan ben ik benieuwd naar de ervaringen.:-) Groeten Geert Stappers -- $ echo {Cal,Card}DAV CalDAV CardDAV $
VNC on debian 11 can't get it working on fress install
Hello all, I am struggling getting VNC to behave on a fresh install. I followed these instructions: https://computingforgeeks.com/install-and-configure-tigervnc-vnc-server-on-debian/ ~ This command works and brings up a vnc server I can log into: vncserver -xstartup startxfce4 & ~ Here is the start of the logfile of a successful start:mark@debian:~/.vnc$ cat debian\:5901.log Xvnc TigerVNC 1.11.0 - built 2022-01-26 17:59Copyright (C) 1999-2020 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.rst)See https://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC.Underlying X server release 12011000, The X.Org Foundation Fri Sep 30 20:21:56 2022 vncext: VNC extension running! vncext: Listening for VNC connections on local interface(s), port 5901 vncext: created VNC server for screen 03NI3X0 New Xtigervnc server 'debian:1 (mark)' on port 5901 for display :1.3NI3X0 Use xtigervncviewer -SecurityTypes VncAuth -passwd /home/mark/.vnc/passwd :1 to connect to the VNC server./usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1gpg-agent: a gpg-agent is already running - not starting a new one (xfwm4:4458): xfwm4-WARNING **: 20:21:57.417: Unsupported GL renderer (llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1, 256 bits)). ** (xfce4-power-manager:4492): WARNING **: 20:21:57.987: Failed to get name owner: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Could not get owner of name 'org.xfce.PowerManager': no such name ** (xfce4-power-manager:4492): WARNING **: 20:21:57.988: Failed to get name owner: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.PowerManagement': no such name Xfce power manager is not runningXlib: extension "DPMS" missing on display ":1". (xfce4-power-manager:4492): xfce4-power-manager-WARNING **: 20:21:57.991: Monitor is not DPMS capable~ log continues ~ This command does not work:mark@debian:~/.vnc$ vncserver New Xtigervnc server 'debian:1 (mark)' on port 5901 for display :1.Use xtigervncviewer -SecurityTypes VncAuth -passwd /home/mark/.vnc/passwd :1 to connect to the VNC server. === tail /home/mark/.vnc/debian:5901.log ===xrdb: No such file or directoryxrdb: can't open file '/.Xresources' Session startup via '/home/mark/.vnc/xstartup' cleanly exited too early (< 3 seconds)! Maybe try something simple first, e.g., tigervncserver -xstartup /usr/bin/xtermThe X session cleanly exited!Killing Xtigervnc process ID 4806... success! ~ This is the log I get:mark@debian:~/.vnc$ cat debian\:5901.log Xvnc TigerVNC 1.11.0 - built 2022-01-26 17:59Copyright (C) 1999-2020 TigerVNC Team and many others (see README.rst)See https://www.tigervnc.org for information on TigerVNC.Underlying X server release 12011000, The X.Org Foundation Fri Sep 30 20:32:01 2022 vncext: VNC extension running! vncext: Listening for VNC connections on local interface(s), port 5901 vncext: created VNC server for screen 03NI3X0 New Xtigervnc server 'debian:1 (mark)' on port 5901 for display :1.3NI3X0 Use xtigervncviewer -SecurityTypes VncAuth -passwd /home/mark/.vnc/passwd :1 to connect to the VNC server.xrdb: No such file or directoryxrdb: can't open file '/.Xresources'/usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :1 ComparingUpdateTracker: 0 pixels in / 0 pixels out ComparingUpdateTracker: (1:-nan ratio)xrdb: Connection refusedxrdb: Can't open display ':1'Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refusedxfce4-session: Cannot open display: .Type 'xfce4-session --help' for usage. Any ideas? thanks
Re: 10/Buster --> 11/Bulleye
Bonjour, Le Wed, 28 Sep 2022 15:11:24 +0200, hamster a écrit : > Non, tu y est presque. Je t'incite a perseverer, meme si c'est pas > sur cette machine, parce que c'est très pratique et efficace pour > réparer grub. J'ai installé Bulleye sur un autre disque. Cela m'a permis de préserver le disque de 4T sur lequel je vais pouvoir, grâce aux conseils que je trouve ici, continuer mon expérience de chroot. Je m'y remet ce soir. -- Alain Vaugham Clef GPG : 0xDB77E054673ECFD2
Re: Scrollbar terug in Firefox
Gijs Hillenius writes: > On 29 September 2022 16:40 Cecil Westerhof, wrote: > >> Ik ben net gemigreerd van Firefox 91.13 naar 102.3. Bij de oude had ik >> een echte scrollbar, maar bij de nieuwe een hele smalle, die ook maar >> heel even zichtbaar is. >> Is er een mogelijkheid om de oude functionaliteit terug te krijgen? > > ja. > > in settings: always show scrollbars aanvinken. Dat werkt. Ze zijn smaller als ze waren, maar daar kan ik prima mee leven. Wel vreemd dat dit ongemerkt wordt aangepast. >> Er zijn trouwens andere programma's die dit 'altijd' al hebben gehad. >> Bijvoorbeeld Thunar. Is daar iets aan te doen? > > Gewoon Emacs Dired gebruiken :) Grapjas. :-D -- Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof
Re: Scrollbar terug in Firefox
On 29 September 2022 16:40 Cecil Westerhof, wrote: > Ik ben net gemigreerd van Firefox 91.13 naar 102.3. Bij de oude had ik > een echte scrollbar, maar bij de nieuwe een hele smalle, die ook maar > heel even zichtbaar is. > Is er een mogelijkheid om de oude functionaliteit terug te krijgen? ja. in settings: always show scrollbars aanvinken. > Er zijn trouwens andere programma's die dit 'altijd' al hebben gehad. > Bijvoorbeeld Thunar. Is daar iets aan te doen? Gewoon Emacs Dired gebruiken :)
Re: OT : Debian VPS for backup through SFTP protocol for a win10 client
Le 29/09/2022 à 09:00, Bottenberg, Michael a écrit : Am 29.09.2022 03:43, schrieb Gareth Evans: On Thu 29 Sep 2022, at 00:29, Gareth Evans wrote: [...] Alternatively, BackupPC supports Windows: https://backuppc.github.io/backuppc Actually rsync (as opposed to tar or SMB over the internet) seems to be the only BackupPC option for a Windows backup source where the backup server is remote, so either cygwin or WSL or cwrsync are required here too afaics. BackupPC also deduplicates backups though, with optional compression. I'm using burp [1] which is also a simple backup solution of that kind. It offers a Windows client with VSS support. [1] https://burp.grke.org/ https://github.com/grke/burp But for Rudu, who is already using luckybackup, it's probably the best idea to use the luckybackup Windows-Client? At least as a short-term solution. For a long-term solution there's maybe other solutions preferable? As the project seems to be "stalled" ... !? (I don't know) hede Thank you very much Gareth and Hede for your help. I'll investigate your suggestions ASAP. I had configured a BackupPC server in the LAN once, who could "pull" backups from Linux and windows boxes, but now some of the staff are working from different places now, hence the necessity of a alternative which could "push" its backups online. Thanks again, Rudu
Re: Pasar de Firefox (release) a Firefox ESR
El 2022-09-29 a las 12:40 -0600, estebanmo...@riseup.net escribió: (mando a la lista, se fue al privado) > Con esa solución solo le esta hechando mas agua a la sopa... 91.0 esr > ya salio de soporte... Le queda solo el soporte que le pueda dar > Debian al paquete del repo. No uso los paquetes de Debian para Firefox, suelen estar muy desactualizados. La versión de Firefox ESR es la 102.3.0 que tiene soporte de seguridad extendididísimo, lo que no incluye son las nuevas caracteríticas y novedades de la versión Release. Pero es verdad que hasta en Firefox piden cautela si vas a pasar a la ESR... no sé, me da qué pensar: Cambiar a Firefox Extended Support Release (ESR) para uso personal https://support.mozilla.org/es/kb/cambiar-firefox-extended-support-release-esr-para-uso-personal *** Advertencia: Las diferentes versiones de Firefox utilizarán de forma predeterminada la misma información de perfil del usuario. Si la versión que instalas de Firefox ESR es anterior a la versión de Firefox que estás utilizando, se pueden producir pérdidas de datos y otros problemas. Si reinicias Firefox puede que se solucionen algunos problemas, pero te recomandamos que te crees un nuevo perfil de Firefox y utilizarlo con Firefox ESR. *** Si no me da ningún problema con el hardware actual, creo que sería más prudente mantener la versión Release. > Considere cambiar de tarro. Su procesador. salió en el 2008, no > entiendo como alguien usa la misma computadora por 14 años, bueno si lo > entiendo alguien que piensa que le está sacando el jugo a un hardware > fácilmente reemplazable, ignorando que es a costillas de un tiempo > irrecuperable, pero bueno cada quien le da valor a sus cosas. El equipo es viejo ¡pero es que va como un cohete! Y no sé por qué, quizá sea por el uso que le doy (nada exigente) pero es extremadamente rápido, no tengo queja ni puedo retirarlo con el buen servicio que me hace. Acabo de ampliar el disco duro a uno de 1 TiB (el antiguo inicialmente instalado para el sistema operativo era de 250 GiB y se me quedaba corto al tenerlo dividido en dos por mi esquema de particiones) y a correr otros 3/4 años. > Las PC como mucho tienen una vida útil de 3 años... Bueno, normalmente la vida útil de un ordenador va (o debe ir) de 4 a 6 años (uso particular) y de 5 a 8 años (empresa). Y eso pensaba yo hasta que compré una placa base Supermicro. Ese fabricante no sabe lo que es la obsolescencia. Sencillamente es-pec- ta-cu-lar, es otro mundo. He trabajado con placas base Asus, MSI, Iwill, Gigabyte, Biostar, DFI, etc... pero no he visto nada igual a Supermicro en cuanto a robustez y fiabilidad (eso, sí, son un poco pijoteras :-)) Esta placa en concreto es: root@stt008:~# dmesg | grep -i super [0.00] DMI: Supermicro C2SBX/C2SBX, BIOS 1.2a 12/19/2008 Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: Pasar de Firefox (release) a Firefox ESR
El 2022-09-29 a las 18:22 -0300, JavierDebian escribió: > El 29/9/22 a las 14:55, Camaleón escribió: > > Hola, > > > > Me estoy planteando el cambio de Firefox (release) a Firefox (ESR), > > ambos instalados directamente desde Mozilla, manteniendo el perfil > > actual del usuario pero desconozco si la transición tendrá algún > > inconveniente. > > > > Sí, si la "release" que tenés instalada es de una versión posterior a la > ESR, que suele ir MUY atrasada. La idea es hacer el cambio ahora que ambas versiones son casi idénticas. > > El motivo es que mi equipo es viejito (Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 > > @ 2.83GHz, NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [Quadro NVS 440]) y las aplicaciones > > cada vez son más demandantes (sobre todo en cuestión de gráfica y > > controladores de aceleración de la GPU). > > > > Ya he pasado de LibreOffice Fresh a LibreOffice Still porque la Fresh > > tiene algunos fallos que ronca el mango y yo tampoco estoy para sustos, > > por eso quiero hacer lo mismo con Firefox. > > > > La versión actual de Firefox es la 105.0.1 (la que tengo instalada) y la > > ESR creo que va por la 102.3.0. > > > > Lo que te decía; vas a tener problemas. > Y la ESR está en versión 91.13.0., más vieja aún. Hum... salvo que me haya perdido algo, la Release va por la 105.0.1: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/105.0.1/releasenotes/ La ESR va por la 102.3.3: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/102.3.0/releasenotes/ Nunca instalo Firefox desde los repos Debian (tampoco LibreOffice), uso los paquetes de Mozilla y los de la Fundación. > > Si alguien ha hecho esa transición, se agradece cualquier comentario o > > sugerencia, problemas encontrados o cómo le ha ido. > > > > > > La forma de pasar, es que tengas una cuenta Firefox sincronizada en la nube. > Elimines y purgue la "release". > Instales la ESR y arrancas desde cero, ingresando a tu cuenta Firefox y que > se sincronice. No tengo cuenta en la nube. Normalmente renombro el perfil de Firefox actual para no perder el original, exporto los marcadores a un archivo bookmark.html y ya está. Instalo la nueva versión de Firefox en /opt y dejo que use el mismo perfil que ya existía. Ese era el plan para cambiar de la Release a la ESR. > ¿Qué vas a perder? > Las "cookies", que deberá bajarlas nuevamente, y la "caché" del historial > (no el historial de visita, ese se mantiene en la sincronización, como > también todos los marcadores y claves). > > O sea, no se pierde nada. Esos datos ya los elimino cada vez que cierro Firefox (trabajo en un modo semi-anónimo), así que, cierto, no pierdo nada. > Pero no intentes instalar versión vieja sobre nueva, porque ahí se te va a > liar. Eso lo voy a tener que valorar por si, por el motivo que sea, tengo que volver a usar la Release. Muchas gracias. Saludos, -- Camaleón
Re: Debian 8
On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:38:07PM +0200, hede wrote: > Am 29.09.2022 21:40, schrieb to...@tuxteam.de: > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 08:13:56PM +0100, David wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > The software I want to run is provided by Ubiquity as an NVR for their > > > cameras, I have versions for Debian 7, 8 & 9. > > > > I think the warnings from both Andys and hede are a bit too one-sided, > > if well-meant. > > Where's my one-sided warning? It's quite the opposite, as I clearly stated > there are good reasons to do so. I take that back, then :) (now seriously: sorry for my sloppy reading) > > If you need to install an older Debian, that's what the archives are > > for [...] > Yes, archive.debian.org is your friend here. > I doubt you are doing anything useful with something like Debian 8 and 4 MB > of RAM, I bet it was way older. The smallest system I'd ever use with a > post-2000 Linux had 32 MB of RAM and used Linux 2.4 even after way newer > kernels were released, for reasons. It's a while ago, but ISTR it was Wheezy. > So good luck with your working root access now, David :-) Absolutely. Cheers -- t signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Pasar de Firefox (release) a Firefox ESR
El 2022-09-29 a las 17:58 -0300, Gerardo Braica escribió: > Como va? > > Si te sirve yo hice el cambio exactamente al reves nada mas que por > curiosidad, > > tenia el ESR y me cambie a version 105 usando el repositorio de MX. > > La verdad es que no note nada diferente en un uso de exigencias normales, > lease > > redes, noticias, youtube, etc. > > Tambien con un equipo viejo, AMD Athlon X2 250, ( de RAM y una GeForce > viejisima GS7100. Gracias por comentar cómo te fue. En tu caso creo que eras más completo (pasar de ESR a Release) pero si no has tenido problemas es una buena señal. Si me animo este fin de semana haré el cambio a ver cómo va. > El 29/9/22 a las 14:55, Camaleón escribió: > > Hola, > > > > Me estoy planteando el cambio de Firefox (release) a Firefox (ESR), > > ambos instalados directamente desde Mozilla, manteniendo el perfil > > actual del usuario pero desconozco si la transición tendrá algún > > inconveniente. > > > > El motivo es que mi equipo es viejito (Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 > > @ 2.83GHz, NVIDIA Corporation NV43 [Quadro NVS 440]) y las aplicaciones > > cada vez son más demandantes (sobre todo en cuestión de gráfica y > > controladores de aceleración de la GPU). > > > > Ya he pasado de LibreOffice Fresh a LibreOffice Still porque la Fresh > > tiene algunos fallos que ronca el mango y yo tampoco estoy para sustos, > > por eso quiero hacer lo mismo con Firefox. > > > > La versión actual de Firefox es la 105.0.1 (la que tengo instalada) y la > > ESR creo que va por la 102.3.0. > > > > Si alguien ha hecho esa transición, se agradece cualquier comentario o > > sugerencia, problemas encontrados o cómo le ha ido. > > > > Saludos, Saludos, -- Camaleón