Re: Paquete no Upgrade

[Javier Barroso]

Buenas,

El jue., 2 may. 2024 3:43, N4ch0  escribió:

> On Wed May 1, 2024 at 2:40 PM -03, Camaleón wrote:
> > El 2024-05-01 a las 11:49 -0300, N4ch0 escribió:
> >
> > > On Wed May 1, 2024 at 2:50 AM -03, César Espino wrote:
> > > > Me pasa lo mismo, quiero ser paciente para que se arreglen.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:48 AM Camaleón 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > El 2024-04-30 a las 10:40 -0300, N4ch0 escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > > El mar, 30 abr 2024 a las 10:35, Camaleón ()
> > > > > escribió:
> > > > >
> > > > > (...)
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Te paso:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > me in ~  took 25s
> > > > > > > > >  00:19:22 ❯ sudo apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > > > > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > > > > > > > Building dependency tree... Done
> > > > > > > > > Reading state information... Done
> > > > > > > > > Calculating upgrade... Done
> > > > > > > > > The following packages have been kept back:
> > > > > > > > >libzvbi-common (0.2.42-1.1 => 0.2.42-2)
> > > > > > > > >0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not
> upgraded.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > La orden es:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > apt-get update && apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > > > > ^^
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (actualiza siempre antes los repos/paquetes)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vale, ya veo lo que pasa, en mi tetsing me dice exactamente lo
> mismo
> > > > > > > (tengo 2 paquetes retenidos).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hay problemas de dependencias entre paquetes que no se pueden
> resolver
> > > > > > > por apt automáticamente, bien por error en el empaquetado o
> porque hay
> > > > > > > que esperar a que se actualicen los repos y se incorporen las
> nuevas
> > > > > > > dependencias.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > La orden que me ha dado la pista es:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hoy me ha actualizado *cientos* de paquetes, toca esperar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No estoy frente al equipo ahora, que te ha arrojado esa orden?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> > > > >
> > > > > Pues te dice que tiene problemas indirectos con 2 paquetes de VLC,
> que
> > > > > efectivamente sí están rotos (ahora mismo) en testing:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.
> > > > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/vlc-plugin-base
> > > > >
> > > > > dep: libaribb24-0 (>= 1.0.3)
> > > > > Package not available
> > > > >
> > > > > dep: libspatialaudio0 (>= 0.3.0+git20180730+dfsg1)
> > > > > Package not available
> > > > >
> > > > > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > > > > Package not available
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.
> > > > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/libavcodec60
> > > > > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > > > > Package not available
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > >
> > > A todo esto, está asentado en alguna web esto que está pasando? en
> > > tracker por ej?
> >
> > En testing/sid esta situación es la habitual en determinadas épocas.
> >
> > Los desarrolladores publican los paquetes _cuando pueden_ pero no
> > siempre están sincronizados/coordinados con otros paquetes y/o
> > bibliotecas y estas son las conseuencias (problemas de dependencias
> > indirectas y paquetes rotos).
> >
> > En Sid suele ser menos problemático porque recibe antes las
> > actualizaciones y los errores se corrige antes.
> >
> > > Por ej el paquete que a vos Camaleon te dice que no está disponible, no
> > > termino de entender la lógica de la web [1]
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libspatialaudio
> >
> > El problema no es con _ese paquete_ sino con _una biblioteca de ese
> > paquete_, que no está disponible para testing (libspatialaudio0):
> >
> > https://packages.debian.org/sid/libspatialaudio0
> >
> > Saludos,
> >
> >
> > Saludos,
>
>
> Hace mucho que estoy en testing, y cosas así antes no las veía (o por lo
> menos que yo requerde):
> --
> me in ~  took 20s
>  20:41:12 ❯ sudo apt upgrade
> Upgrading:
>   bsdextrautils fdisklibfdisk1libsmartcols1 rfkill
>  util-linux-locales
>   bsdutils  libblkid-dev libmount-dev libuuid1  util-linux
>  uuid-dev
>   eject libblkid1libmount1mount util-linux-extra
>
> Not upgrading:
>   profanity
>
> Summary:
>   Upgrading: 17, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 1
>   Download size: 5873 kB
>   Freed space: 388 kB
>
> --
>
>
> y con dist-upgrade:
>
> --
> me in ~  took 46s
>  20:42:05 ❯ sudo apt dist-upgrade
> Upgrading:
>   profanity
>
> Installing dependencies:
>   libgpgme11t64 libotr5t64
>
> Suggested packages:
>   libotr5-bin
>
> REMOVING:
>   libgpgme11 libotr5
>
> Summary:
>   Upgrading: 1, Installing: 2, Removing: 2, Not Upgrading: 0
>   Download size: 863 kB
>   Space needed: 12.3 kB / 

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Sirius]

In days of yore (Thu, 02 May 2024), Sirius thus quoth: 
> Tab-handling is one of the things that kitty does well that I
> really like. But when it takes over ten times the memory for a single
> instance compared to urxvt - I can forego the tab-handling and have
> multiple windows instead. (Not looked yet if there is urxvt patches for
> kitty style tab handling - which would be awesome if it exists.)

To follow up on this:
  https://github.com/gryf/tabbedalt

$ mkdir -p ~/.urxvt/ext/
$ wget -O ~/.urxvt/ext/tabbedalt 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gryf/tabbedalt/master/tabbedalt
$ echo "URxvt.perl-ext: tabbedalt" >> .Xdefaults

Now you have tabs in urxvt.

-- 
Kind regards,

/S

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

[Sirius]

In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Paul Scott thus quoth: 
> 
> On 5/1/2024 10:57 AM, Sirius wrote:
> > I have an Aspire A715-41G and the wireless is an Intel AX200. I am
> > currently using iwd and iwctl to manage it, but NetworkManager picked it
> > up off the bat and allowed it to be configured - even during installation.
> > 
> > You will want to use 'lspci' to figure out if the card is seen at all and
> > you should get a line like:
> > 
> > 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (rev 1a)
> > 
> > Once you know what make/model the wifi is, you can start looking for the
> > right driver if it is not auto-detected.
> 
> How did you install Debian?

I have a USB stick with Ventoy on it, and a collection of ISOs that I can
pick through depending on what I am doing. The Debian ISO is the 12.5 DVD
version.

It was surprising to me just how much the installer detected and got
right, because it asked me about wifi network and key and then off it
went.

If your wifi is also the AX200 (maybe a different revision), it *should*
work. There is a lot to be said about Intel, but their drivers do get
pushed upstream and make it into the distribution kernels. iwd is also an
Intel thing and quite nice to use when digging into it.

-- 
Kind regards,

/S

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

[Paul Scott]

On 5/1/2024 10:57 AM, Sirius wrote:

In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Paul Scott thus quoth:

Hello,

I have many installs over many years (only a few per year)..

I tried a Testing net install pn my new Acer Aspire 315 and it didn't find
an Ethernet driver.  (wireless?).

I read that I should try a more complete image which I am downloading
(jigdo) now.

I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions,

I have an Aspire A715-41G and the wireless is an Intel AX200. I am
currently using iwd and iwctl to manage it, but NetworkManager picked it
up off the bat and allowed it to be configured - even during installation.

You will want to use 'lspci' to figure out if the card is seen at all and
you should get a line like:

04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (rev 1a)

Once you know what make/model the wifi is, you can start looking for the
right driver if it is not auto-detected.


How did you install Debian?

Thank you,

Paul

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Sirius]

In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Karl Vogel thus quoth: 
> On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 08:32:31AM -0400, Sirius wrote:
> > If Debian still packages it, look for rxvt instead, or use xterm. Both
> > are well tried and well tested for when you want something.. dated. ;)
> 
>   I resemble that remark.  Xterm v390 was released on 19 Feb 2024, and
>   building it from source is easy.
> 
>   https://invisible-island.net/archives/xterm/xterm-390.tgz{,.asc}

It was meant tongue-in-cheek. OP's post prompted me to start digging into
urxvt and it is now my default terminal. :)

Modern terminals like Gnome-terminal, Konsole, alacritty, kitty and others
are essentially slapping a spruced-up UI on top of something that is 40+
years old. Tab-handling is one of the things that kitty does well that I
really like. But when it takes over ten times the memory for a single
instance compared to urxvt - I can forego the tab-handling and have
multiple windows instead. (Not looked yet if there is urxvt patches for
kitty style tab handling - which would be awesome if it exists.)

And as someone pointed out about the control character handling, there is
a security aspect to pay attention to as well. Xterm and Rxvt have both
been down this road for so long that they have that side of things
relatively well handled.

I've seen zutty because it was installed by default, but I have no idea
why it is installed by default. It does not strike me as the best choice
when both xterm and rxvt are available.

> My mind is like my browser: 19 open tabs, three of them are frozen, and
> I have no clue where the music is coming from.

Oh, I s identify with this one.

-- 
Kind regards,

/S

Modo de instalacio OEM

[yo yo]

Buenas, quisiera instalar debian a pc y laptos de mis clientes, al
instalarlo se sienten un poco insastifecho por lo que les doy la pc ya con
una cuenta creada, existe alguna forma de instalar debian en modo OEM como
en linux mint?, actualmente personalizo debian al estilo deepin lo que ha
motivados a mis clientes a dejarme instalar debian

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Max Nikulin]

On 02/05/2024 10:11, Greg Wooledge wrote:

On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 09:34:13AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:

On 01/05/2024 21:58, Sirius wrote:


I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading
settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead.


It is a bit strange. Applications should not read these files directly.
Content should be loaded during X session startup, see
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources

After modification of .Xresources it is necessary to invoke xrdb(1).


I'm not sure about rxvt-unicode, but the original rxvt definitely
worked that way.


Almost certainly I was wrong. .Xresources should be read by xrdb, while 
.Xdefaults (older method) is read by applications.

https://superuser.com/questions/243914/what-is-the-difference-between-xresources-and-xdefaults


  1. app-defaults file in $XAPPLRESDIR
  2. $HOME/.Xdefaults
  3. RESOURCE_MANAGER property on root-window of screen 0
  4. SCREEN_RESOURCES property on root-window of the current screen
  5. $XENVIRONMENT file OR $HOME/.Xdefaults-
  6. resources specified via -xrm on the commandline

It says you can use xrdb, but then lists the places it looks, and that
list does not include xrdb(?).  I don't understand what this means.


Items 3 and 4 in this list are places where xrdb stores properties.

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Karl Vogel]

On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 08:32:31AM -0400, Sirius wrote:
> If Debian still packages it, look for rxvt instead, or use xterm. Both
> are well tried and well tested for when you want something.. dated. ;)

  I resemble that remark.  Xterm v390 was released on 19 Feb 2024, and
  building it from source is easy.

  https://invisible-island.net/archives/xterm/xterm-390.tgz{,.asc}

-- 
Karl Vogel  I don't speak for anyone but myself

My mind is like my browser: 19 open tabs, three of them are frozen, and
I have no clue where the music is coming from.

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Greg Wooledge]

On Thu, May 02, 2024 at 09:34:13AM +0700, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 01/05/2024 21:58, Sirius wrote:
> > 
> > I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading
> > settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead.
> 
> It is a bit strange. Applications should not read these files directly.
> Content should be loaded during X session startup, see
> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources
> 
> After modification of .Xresources it is necessary to invoke xrdb(1).

I'm not sure about rxvt-unicode, but the original rxvt definitely
worked that way.  This was part of the lightweight design of rxvt.
The author didn't want the bloat involved in reading the X resource
database, so he chose to read the source files directly.

According to :

  RESOURCES (available also as long-options)

  Note: 'rxvt --help' gives a list of all resources (long options)
  compiled into your version. If compiled with internal Xresources
  support (i.e. rxvt -h lists .Xdefaults) then rxvt accepts application
  defaults set in XAPPLOADDIR/Rxvt (compile-time defined: usually
  /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/Rxvt) and resources set in ~/.Xdefaults,
  or ~/.Xresources if ~/.Xdefaults does not exist.


The corresponding section of the rxvt-unicode man page (in Debian 12)
is a bit confusing to me:

   You can set and change the resources using X11 tools like xrdb. Many
   distribution do also load settings from the ~/.Xresources file when X
   starts. urxvt will consult the following files/resources in order, with
   later settings overwriting earlier ones:

 1. app-defaults file in $XAPPLRESDIR
 2. $HOME/.Xdefaults
 3. RESOURCE_MANAGER property on root-window of screen 0
 4. SCREEN_RESOURCES property on root-window of the current screen
 5. $XENVIRONMENT file OR $HOME/.Xdefaults-
 6. resources specified via -xrm on the commandline

It says you can use xrdb, but then lists the places it looks, and that
list does not include xrdb(?).  I don't understand what this means.

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Max Nikulin]

On 01/05/2024 21:58, Sirius wrote:


I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading
settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead.


It is a bit strange. Applications should not read these files directly. 
Content should be loaded during X session startup, see 
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/30x11-common_xresources


After modification of .Xresources it is necessary to invoke xrdb(1).

Per-application files are in /etc/X11/app-defaults/


Good old urxvt is quite lightweight compared to kitty.


I am unsure concerning real degree of danger, just a warning:

https://dgl.cx/2023/09/ansi-terminal-security

Additionally some terminals support C1 controls in UTF-8 encoded text,
which per this 2015 posting to oss-security is problematic. Some
terminals have the ability to turn this off, if they do not such as
Kitty I cannot recommend their use.

Re: Paquete no Upgrade

[N4ch0]

On Wed May 1, 2024 at 2:40 PM -03, Camaleón wrote:
> El 2024-05-01 a las 11:49 -0300, N4ch0 escribió:
>
> > On Wed May 1, 2024 at 2:50 AM -03, César Espino wrote:
> > > Me pasa lo mismo, quiero ser paciente para que se arreglen.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:48 AM Camaleón  wrote:
> > >
> > > > El 2024-04-30 a las 10:40 -0300, N4ch0 escribió:
> > > >
> > > > > El mar, 30 abr 2024 a las 10:35, Camaleón ()
> > > > escribió:
> > > >
> > > > (...)
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Te paso:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > me in ~  took 25s
> > > > > > > >  00:19:22 ❯ sudo apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > > > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > > > > > > Building dependency tree... Done
> > > > > > > > Reading state information... Done
> > > > > > > > Calculating upgrade... Done
> > > > > > > > The following packages have been kept back:
> > > > > > > >libzvbi-common (0.2.42-1.1 => 0.2.42-2)
> > > > > > > >0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not 
> > > > > > > > upgraded.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > La orden es:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > apt-get update && apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > > > ^^
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > (actualiza siempre antes los repos/paquetes)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vale, ya veo lo que pasa, en mi tetsing me dice exactamente lo mismo
> > > > > > (tengo 2 paquetes retenidos).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hay problemas de dependencias entre paquetes que no se pueden 
> > > > > > resolver
> > > > > > por apt automáticamente, bien por error en el empaquetado o porque 
> > > > > > hay
> > > > > > que esperar a que se actualicen los repos y se incorporen las nuevas
> > > > > > dependencias.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > La orden que me ha dado la pista es:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hoy me ha actualizado *cientos* de paquetes, toca esperar.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No estoy frente al equipo ahora, que te ha arrojado esa orden?
> > > > >
> > > > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> > > >
> > > > Pues te dice que tiene problemas indirectos con 2 paquetes de VLC, que
> > > > efectivamente sí están rotos (ahora mismo) en testing:
> > > >
> > > > 1.
> > > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/vlc-plugin-base
> > > >
> > > > dep: libaribb24-0 (>= 1.0.3)
> > > > Package not available
> > > >
> > > > dep: libspatialaudio0 (>= 0.3.0+git20180730+dfsg1)
> > > > Package not available
> > > >
> > > > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > > > Package not available
> > > >
> > > > 2.
> > > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/libavcodec60
> > > > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > > > Package not available
> > > > 
> > > >
> > 
> > A todo esto, está asentado en alguna web esto que está pasando? en
> > tracker por ej?
>
> En testing/sid esta situación es la habitual en determinadas épocas.
>
> Los desarrolladores publican los paquetes _cuando pueden_ pero no 
> siempre están sincronizados/coordinados con otros paquetes y/o 
> bibliotecas y estas son las conseuencias (problemas de dependencias 
> indirectas y paquetes rotos).
>
> En Sid suele ser menos problemático porque recibe antes las 
> actualizaciones y los errores se corrige antes.
>
> > Por ej el paquete que a vos Camaleon te dice que no está disponible, no
> > termino de entender la lógica de la web [1]
> > 
> > 
> > [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libspatialaudio
>
> El problema no es con _ese paquete_ sino con _una biblioteca de ese 
> paquete_, que no está disponible para testing (libspatialaudio0):
>
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/libspatialaudio0
>
> Saludos,
>
>
> Saludos, 


Hace mucho que estoy en testing, y cosas así antes no las veía (o por lo
menos que yo requerde):
--
me in ~  took 20s
 20:41:12 ❯ sudo apt upgrade
Upgrading:
  bsdextrautils fdisklibfdisk1libsmartcols1 rfkill   
util-linux-locales
  bsdutils  libblkid-dev libmount-dev libuuid1  util-linux   
uuid-dev
  eject libblkid1libmount1mount util-linux-extra

Not upgrading:
  profanity

Summary:
  Upgrading: 17, Installing: 0, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 1
  Download size: 5873 kB
  Freed space: 388 kB

--


y con dist-upgrade:

--
me in ~  took 46s
 20:42:05 ❯ sudo apt dist-upgrade
Upgrading:
  profanity

Installing dependencies:
  libgpgme11t64 libotr5t64

Suggested packages:
  libotr5-bin

REMOVING:
  libgpgme11 libotr5

Summary:
  Upgrading: 1, Installing: 2, Removing: 2, Not Upgrading: 0
  Download size: 863 kB
  Space needed: 12.3 kB / 7773 MB available

--

No recuerdo que para actualizar dependencias desintale las dependecias
viejas e instale las nuevas.

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Dan Ritter]

Richmond wrote: 
> Dan Ritter  writes:
> 
> > Richmond wrote: 
> > Let's put in a broad bell that will cover bass and low treble
> > voices: tap the first gear icon on top of a slider. By default,
> > all these bands are configurable and set to no change, so we're
> > going to co-opt the first one.
> >
> > The controls you now see should be Type, Mode and Slope. Set
> > Type to Bell, ignore Mode and Slope for now.
> >
> > Underneath are Frequency and Quality, with a display in between
> > telling you the width of that combination. Let's select a center
> > frequency of 200Hz, with a Q of 1.25. The width should say about
> > 160Hz, which will affect 40 to 360Hz (200 +/- 160). Click the
> > gear icon again, and then adjust the slider up about 6 dB.
> 
> OK I did this. But over on the right there is still 194hz and 241hz
> which cover the same range.

That's a leftover thought from graphic equalizers, where each
slider has a fixed center frequency, a fixed shape, and a fixed
width. This is a parametric equalizer.

It starts out displaying 20 or so sliders all of which are set
to zero. Setting them to zero means they don't affect anything.

We then changed the frequency center of the first slider, setting it
to 200Hz.  On a graphic EQ, that's like grabbing the nearest fixed slider
and forcing it to adjust the frequency you actually want.

> Also the user interface appears to get stuck so the dialog won't go
> away.

Try clicking outside it. 
 
> I can't hear lower voices still, maybe PC speakers won't play them anyway.

The spectral display above will show you what frequencies are being
produced -- that's post-effects, so any changes you introduce with the
equalizer will be shown.

Try plugging in headphones? 

-dsr-

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Richmond]

Dan Ritter  writes:

> Richmond wrote: 
>> Dan Ritter  writes:
>> 
>> > Parametric EQs are not the same as graphic EQs, but they are
>> > reasonably easy to understand and offer much more control.
>> >
>> > Suppose you want to boost all the bass below 50Hz. The
>> > parametric type you want is a "shelf", the frequency is 50Hz,
>> > the Q doesn't matter (because it's a shelf) and the volume
>> > change is whatever you want -- +3dB is a safe number to produce
>> > an audible effect without being overwhelming.
>> >
>> 
>> What I want to do is make it easier to hear the lower voices in choral
>> music, or even better, hear only the lower voices, i.e. eliminate the
>> upper voices. Perhaps a 'shelf' would do that, but I cannot find
>> anything called 'shelf' in the user interface. I am bewildered.
>
> Human voices tend to be 80-8000Hz
>
> On the left hand side top, there's a Presets drop-down. Create a
> new Output preset by typing in a name and tapping the + button.
>
> At the bottom center, click on Effects.
>
> On the left, you will have a list of effects. Select Equalizer.

OK I got the equalizer. Unfortunately installing the software again has
broken bluetooth speakers again, but I can still hear through the PC
speakers...

>
> Let's put in a broad bell that will cover bass and low treble
> voices: tap the first gear icon on top of a slider. By default,
> all these bands are configurable and set to no change, so we're
> going to co-opt the first one.
>
> The controls you now see should be Type, Mode and Slope. Set
> Type to Bell, ignore Mode and Slope for now.
>
> Underneath are Frequency and Quality, with a display in between
> telling you the width of that combination. Let's select a center
> frequency of 200Hz, with a Q of 1.25. The width should say about
> 160Hz, which will affect 40 to 360Hz (200 +/- 160). Click the
> gear icon again, and then adjust the slider up about 6 dB.

OK I did this. But over on the right there is still 194hz and 241hz
which cover the same range.

Also the user interface appears to get stuck so the dialog won't go
away.

I can't hear lower voices still, maybe PC speakers won't play them anyway.

>
> Play some choral music. Better? Worse? Play with the settings
> until you get what you want. Then go back to Presets and use +
> to save the current settings under the name you chose.
>
> -dsr-

Re: DNI electrónico en Debian

[Listas]

El mié, 01-05-2024 a las 20:15 +0200, Luis Muñoz Fuente escribió:
> 
> Hola a todos/as:
> ¿Alguien se identifica o firma con el DNI electrónico en Debian?
> Habitualmente uso el certificado digital de la FNMT pero estoy
> pensando comprar un lector de DNI por si me falla la firma con el
> certificado de la FNMT.
> Saludos

Si, uso el DNIe con Debian testing y tarjetas criptográficas en general
con lector.

Un saludo

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Franco Martelli]

On 01/05/24 at 18:21, Richmond wrote:


I am using a web browser to play Youtube and Spotify.

I got into a real mess with this, as my bluetooth speakers stopped
working, "Bluetooth connect failed: br-connection-profile-unavailable"
and then when I removed pipewire I lost all sound completely. I have it
working again now by trial and error.



I know nothing about bluetooth speakers but if pipewire is not a viable 
solution for you, you could try to install "libasound2-plugin-equal" and 
"alsamixergui" packages then makes changes to your ~/.asoundrc 
accordingly to what's explained in the README:


~$ less /usr/share/doc/libasound2-plugin-equal/README

then you can run the ALSA equalizer with the following command:

~$ alsamixergui -D equal

maybe other readers may have a better solution.

Cheers,

--
Franco Martelli

Caractères manquantes

[David P.]

Bonjour,

J'ai un Dell Latitude 5480,
J'ai remarqué qu'il manquait un touche pour les caractères < >, généralement 
située entre le shift gauche et la lettre W. Vu que je développe avec ces 
caractères, je sèche...

Quels idées donneriez-vous pour pouvoir les utiliser ?
Un tuto serait un plus !
Merci pour votre aide,
Librement vôtre,
David P.


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Re: grub requirements for fonts

[Darac Marjal]

On 01/05/2024 10:45, Richard wrote:
I'd like to increase the font size in Grub (v2.12, at least I think 
that's the better alternative to just lowering the resolution) and 
opted to just use a custom font as there seems to be an OTF version of 
"GNU Unifont", though it seems to be jagged by design, but I'm running 
into issues. I thought about just using Noto Mono Regular for it, as 
Noto is supposed to always work and a monospaced font is recommended 
for easier setting of letters, as Grub uses bitmap fonts. Now my issue 
is that on one hand, the conversion to a bitmap font seems to be quite 
bad, the letters look really jagged. On the other hand, it seems that 
despite Noto supposed to being about no tofu, I actually get a lot of 
tofu. Both the up and down arrows in the description text at the 
bottom of grubs boot selector and the border around everything is just 
made up of tofu. And I tried converting the font with both grub-mkfont 
and Grub Customizer, same result.


What command line are you using? I've used the following in the past 
"grub-mkfont -o dejavu_12.pf -a -s 12 
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf"


You also mention that you're trying Unifont and Noto - are you trying to 
display characters beyond the range of ASCII? I've not tried displaying 
much more than English text. You might need to use the "-r" option if 
you are.




So what exactly are the requirements for fonts to be used in Grub so 
that they are converted to PFF2 fonts in a higher quality and don't 
show tofu?


Best
Richard


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Re: DNI electrónico en Debian

[Raúl Armenta]

Yo lo hago. Instalé en Debian 11 y se mantiene todo correcto después de que
actualicé al 12.

Configurado sobre Firefox.

Único inconveniente que no he sabido configurar, firmar externamente con
aplicaciones de cada organismo. No encuentra el almacén de certificados de
Firefox. Tengo que guardar mi certificado en disco.

También utilizo con lector de DNI electrónico.

Un saludete

El mié, 1 may 2024, 20:16, Luis Muñoz Fuente <
luis.munoz@juntadeandalucia.es> escribió:

> Hola a todos/as:
>
> ¿Alguien se identifica o firma con el DNI electrónico en Debian?
> Habitualmente uso el certificado digital de la FNMT pero estoy pensando
> comprar un lector de DNI por si me falla la firma con el certificado de la
> FNMT.
>
> Saludos
>

DNI electrónico en Debian

[Luis Muñoz Fuente]

Hola a todos/as: 

¿Alguien se identifica o firma con el DNI electrónico en Debian?
Habitualmente uso el certificado digital de la FNMT pero estoy pensando
comprar un lector de DNI por si me falla la firma con el certificado de
la FNMT. 

Saludos

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

[Sirius]

In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Paul Scott thus quoth: 
> Hello,
> 
> I have many installs over many years (only a few per year)..
> 
> I tried a Testing net install pn my new Acer Aspire 315 and it didn't find
> an Ethernet driver.  (wireless?).
> 
> I read that I should try a more complete image which I am downloading
> (jigdo) now.
> 
> I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions,

I have an Aspire A715-41G and the wireless is an Intel AX200. I am
currently using iwd and iwctl to manage it, but NetworkManager picked it
up off the bat and allowed it to be configured - even during installation.

You will want to use 'lspci' to figure out if the card is seen at all and
you should get a line like:

04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wi-Fi 6 AX200 (rev 1a)

Once you know what make/model the wifi is, you can start looking for the
right driver if it is not auto-detected.

-- 
Kind regards,

/S

Re: Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

[Nicolas George]

Paul Scott (12024-05-01):
> I read that I should try a more complete image which I am downloading
> (jigdo) now.

Waste of time. The drivers are either in the kernel image or in
individual packages, you can install them on top of what you have.

> I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions,

Check the PCI ids of your Ethernet controller. Download the kernel image
you are considering, check if any of its modules matches these ids.

Regards,

-- 
  Nicolas George

Re : Re: Linux mobilise désormais 15 % de parts sur les desktops en Inde, une performance qui contraste avec les 4 % à l'échelle globale

[k6dedijon]

Bonjour,
François-Marie a raison, l'Éducation Nationale devrait tout passer sous Linux 
pour que celui-ci puisse prendre son essor.
N'oublions pas et rappelons que Microsoft et Apple utilisent des noyaux dérivés 
d'UNIX depuis de nombreuses années pour Apple et depuis près de 10 ans pour 
Microsoft.
De ce fait les logiciels de métiers tournent sous des systèmes dérivés d'UNIX.

Depuis 2006, je suis 100% avec des systèmes Linux : Debian, Kubuntu, Ubuntu 
studio, Manjaro.
Je fais tout ce dont j'ai besoin pour moi et les 5 associations dans lesquelles 
je me suis impliqué.
Continuer à utiliser les GAFAM qui ne reversent pas à la France la part qu'ils 
gagnent avec le marché français est un très mauvais calcul.

Bien cordialement,
Cassis



- Mail d'origine -
De: Informatique BILLARD 
À: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Envoyé: Wed, 01 May 2024 09:21:38 +0200 (CEST)
Objet: Re: Linux mobilise désormais 15 % de parts sur les desktops en Inde, une 
performance qui contraste avec les 4 % à l'échelle globale

Bonjour,

oui curieux ce chiffre, mais il ne pourra pas augmenter sans un effort 
des producteurs de logiciels. Utilisateur de Linux depuis une vingtaine 
d'année et enseignant dans le secteur professionnel Windows est 
incontournable car quasiment tous les logiciels métiers sont sous 
windows et n'ont pas de version Linux.

Pour exemple, Siemens fournissait une version Linux d'un de ses outils 
il y a peu et plus maintenant. Quand à l'utilisation de l'émulateur wine 
ou playonlinux ce n'est pas toujours possible, comme par exemple avec  
des outil dont j'ai besoin.

Cordialement

M. Billard

Le 30/04/2024 à 08:15, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
>
> Voici le lien pour plus de détail :
>
>
> Lien 
> 
>
>
> J'ai du mal à comprendre ces chiffres, LINUX à fait beaucoup de 
> progrès en termes de vulgarisation, pour Debian,  j'ai commencé par la 
> distribution slink,
>
> c'était difficile, mais pas insurmontable.
>
> Quand on voit la distribution Mint, c'est une distribution prête à 
> être utilisée.
>
> Depuis Windows 10, on a un OS qui est devenu opaque, respecte peu la 
> vie privée des utilisateurs, concernant les performances, je ne peux 
> m'exprimer
>
> car je n'utilise pas ou occasionnellement au travail.
>
>
> Il faut que les personnes ouvrent les yeux !!
>
>

Installing testing on Acer Aspire 315

[Paul Scott]

Hello,

I have many installs over many years (only a few per year)..

I tried a Testing net install pn my new Acer Aspire 315 and it didn't 
find an Ethernet driver.  (wireless?).


I read that I should try a more complete image which I am downloading 
(jigdo) now.


I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions,

Paul

Re: Paquete no Upgrade

[Camaleón]

El 2024-05-01 a las 11:49 -0300, N4ch0 escribió:

> On Wed May 1, 2024 at 2:50 AM -03, César Espino wrote:
> > Me pasa lo mismo, quiero ser paciente para que se arreglen.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:48 AM Camaleón  wrote:
> >
> > > El 2024-04-30 a las 10:40 -0300, N4ch0 escribió:
> > >
> > > > El mar, 30 abr 2024 a las 10:35, Camaleón ()
> > > escribió:
> > >
> > > (...)
> > >
> > > > > > > Te paso:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > me in ~  took 25s
> > > > > > >  00:19:22 ❯ sudo apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > > > > > Building dependency tree... Done
> > > > > > > Reading state information... Done
> > > > > > > Calculating upgrade... Done
> > > > > > > The following packages have been kept back:
> > > > > > >libzvbi-common (0.2.42-1.1 => 0.2.42-2)
> > > > > > >0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > La orden es:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > apt-get update && apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > > ^^
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (actualiza siempre antes los repos/paquetes)
> > > > >
> > > > > Vale, ya veo lo que pasa, en mi tetsing me dice exactamente lo mismo
> > > > > (tengo 2 paquetes retenidos).
> > > > >
> > > > > Hay problemas de dependencias entre paquetes que no se pueden resolver
> > > > > por apt automáticamente, bien por error en el empaquetado o porque hay
> > > > > que esperar a que se actualicen los repos y se incorporen las nuevas
> > > > > dependencias.
> > > > >
> > > > > La orden que me ha dado la pista es:
> > > > >
> > > > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> > > > >
> > > > > Hoy me ha actualizado *cientos* de paquetes, toca esperar.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > No estoy frente al equipo ahora, que te ha arrojado esa orden?
> > > >
> > > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> > >
> > > Pues te dice que tiene problemas indirectos con 2 paquetes de VLC, que
> > > efectivamente sí están rotos (ahora mismo) en testing:
> > >
> > > 1.
> > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/vlc-plugin-base
> > >
> > > dep: libaribb24-0 (>= 1.0.3)
> > > Package not available
> > >
> > > dep: libspatialaudio0 (>= 0.3.0+git20180730+dfsg1)
> > > Package not available
> > >
> > > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > > Package not available
> > >
> > > 2.
> > > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/libavcodec60
> > > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > > Package not available
> > > 
> > >
> 
> A todo esto, está asentado en alguna web esto que está pasando? en
> tracker por ej?

En testing/sid esta situación es la habitual en determinadas épocas.

Los desarrolladores publican los paquetes _cuando pueden_ pero no 
siempre están sincronizados/coordinados con otros paquetes y/o 
bibliotecas y estas son las conseuencias (problemas de dependencias 
indirectas y paquetes rotos).

En Sid suele ser menos problemático porque recibe antes las 
actualizaciones y los errores se corrige antes.

> Por ej el paquete que a vos Camaleon te dice que no está disponible, no
> termino de entender la lógica de la web [1]
> 
> 
> [1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libspatialaudio

El problema no es con _ese paquete_ sino con _una biblioteca de ese 
paquete_, que no está disponible para testing (libspatialaudio0):

https://packages.debian.org/sid/libspatialaudio0

Saludos,


Saludos, 

-- 
Camaleón 

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Richmond]

Sirius  writes:

> I can get it working with "zutty -font 12x24" and other numerically
> named fonts.

Wow that one actually worked. That's the first time I've seen a
different font in zutty!



> Trying with something like 'lucidasans-24' will make it dump core
> however.

I got this error:

zutty -font lucidasans-24 E [fontpack.cc:218] Error: No Regular variant
of the requested font 'lucidasans-24' could be identified.  terminate
called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error' what(): No
suitable files for 'lucidasans-24' found!

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Richmond]

Franco Martelli  writes:

> On 01/05/24 at 14:33, Richmond wrote:
>> Is it possible to have a graphic equalizer for sound output? I am using
>> the Mate desktop. I installed EasyEffects from a flatpak and it appears
>> on the menu but does nothing. I don't know the command line. Probably
>> there is an error.
>> Debian 12.
>> 
>
> Usually graphical equalizer are built in into the audio player, which
> audio player are you using? Clementine ¹  has a powerful equalizer
> with sound effects but maybe you'll prefer Rhythmbox that has an
> equalizer provided apart. ²
>

I am using a web browser to play Youtube and Spotify.

I got into a real mess with this, as my bluetooth speakers stopped
working, "Bluetooth connect failed: br-connection-profile-unavailable"
and then when I removed pipewire I lost all sound completely. I have it
working again now by trial and error.

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Dan Ritter]

Richmond wrote: 
> Dan Ritter  writes:
> 
> > Parametric EQs are not the same as graphic EQs, but they are
> > reasonably easy to understand and offer much more control.
> >
> > Suppose you want to boost all the bass below 50Hz. The
> > parametric type you want is a "shelf", the frequency is 50Hz,
> > the Q doesn't matter (because it's a shelf) and the volume
> > change is whatever you want -- +3dB is a safe number to produce
> > an audible effect without being overwhelming.
> >
> 
> What I want to do is make it easier to hear the lower voices in choral
> music, or even better, hear only the lower voices, i.e. eliminate the
> upper voices. Perhaps a 'shelf' would do that, but I cannot find
> anything called 'shelf' in the user interface. I am bewildered.

Human voices tend to be 80-8000Hz

On the left hand side top, there's a Presets drop-down. Create a
new Output preset by typing in a name and tapping the + button.

At the bottom center, click on Effects.

On the left, you will have a list of effects. Select Equalizer.

Let's put in a broad bell that will cover bass and low treble
voices: tap the first gear icon on top of a slider. By default,
all these bands are configurable and set to no change, so we're
going to co-opt the first one.

The controls you now see should be Type, Mode and Slope. Set
Type to Bell, ignore Mode and Slope for now.

Underneath are Frequency and Quality, with a display in between
telling you the width of that combination. Let's select a center
frequency of 200Hz, with a Q of 1.25. The width should say about
160Hz, which will affect 40 to 360Hz (200 +/- 160). Click the
gear icon again, and then adjust the slider up about 6 dB.

Play some choral music. Better? Worse? Play with the settings
until you get what you want. Then go back to Presets and use +
to save the current settings under the name you chose.

-dsr-

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Franco Martelli]

On 01/05/24 at 14:33, Richmond wrote:

Is it possible to have a graphic equalizer for sound output? I am using
the Mate desktop. I installed EasyEffects from a flatpak and it appears
on the menu but does nothing. I don't know the command line. Probably
there is an error.

Debian 12.



Usually graphical equalizer are built in into the audio player, which 
audio player are you using? Clementine ¹  has a powerful equalizer with 
sound effects but maybe you'll prefer Rhythmbox that has an equalizer 
provided apart. ²


Cheers,

¹ https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/clementine
² https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Rhythmbox/Plugins/ThirdParty
--
Franco Martelli

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Richmond]

Curt  writes:

> Why install from flatpak when there is a native Debian package?
>

To cut a long story short: user error. :(

So I have it working now...

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Richmond]

Dan Ritter  writes:

> Parametric EQs are not the same as graphic EQs, but they are
> reasonably easy to understand and offer much more control.
>
> Suppose you want to boost all the bass below 50Hz. The
> parametric type you want is a "shelf", the frequency is 50Hz,
> the Q doesn't matter (because it's a shelf) and the volume
> change is whatever you want -- +3dB is a safe number to produce
> an audible effect without being overwhelming.
>

What I want to do is make it easier to hear the lower voices in choral
music, or even better, hear only the lower voices, i.e. eliminate the
upper voices. Perhaps a 'shelf' would do that, but I cannot find
anything called 'shelf' in the user interface. I am bewildered.

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Sirius]

In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Greg Wooledge thus quoth: 
> On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:31:49PM +0200, Sirius wrote:
> > zutty is kind of only necessary when you want something *really*
> > lightweight and you do not need to worry about UTF-8. Just writing this
> > means a trip down memory lane and back to configuring CTWM on old Sun 5
> > workstations back in the 90's. If Debian still packages it, look for rxvt
> > instead, or use xterm. Both are well tried and well tested for when you
> > want something .. dated. ;)
> 
> The original rxvt is no longer packaged in Debian, as far as I can see.
> There's rxvt-unicode, which is what I use, which has most of the same
> look and feel as rxvt, but is substantially larger.

I pulled down rxvt-unicode and started looking at how to configure it up
so that it works more or less like kitty (which is what I normally use).

> Between xterm and rxvt-unicode you should have most of your "basic
> no-frills terminal" needs met by one or the other.

I was right about .Xresources that it is one of the files used for loading
settings into the X server, but urxvt looks at .Xdefaults instead. If one
puts something like the below into .Xdefaults in $HOME, it works with
Powerline and it does not look too terrible.

Rxvt.depth: 24
Rxvt.jumpScroll: on
Rxvt.fading: 20
Rxvt.background: #101010
Rxvt.foreground: #efefef
Rxvt.cursorColor: #dd
Rxvt.font: xft:Hack:pixelsize=16,xft:Powerline:pixelsize=16
Rxvt.boldFont: xft:Hack Bold:pixelsize=16,xft:Powerline:pixelsize=16
Rxvt.italicFont: xft:Hack Italic:pixelsize=16,xft:Powerline:pixelsize=16
Rxvt.boldItalicFont: xft:Hack BoldItalic:pixelsize=16,xft:Powerline:pixelsize=16
Rxvt.loginShell: on
Rxvt.visualBell: on
Rxvt.scrollBar_right: on
Rxvt.scrollBar_floating: on
Rxvt.saveLines: 5000
Rxvt.termName: xterm-256color
Rxvt.disablePasteBrackets: off

As per usual, getting the fonts right was the hardest part. As for memory
use..

USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
sirius 56392  0.1  0.1  48136 28160 ?S16:48   0:00 
/usr/bin/urxvt
sirius 56393  0.0  0.0  21928   816 ?S16:48   0:00 
/usr/bin/urxvt
sirius 56465  0.1  0.1  43192 23232 ?S16:52   0:00 
/usr/bin/urxvt
sirius 56466  0.0  0.0  21928   820 ?S16:52   0:00 
/usr/bin/urxvt
sirius 56532  2.5  1.0 745480 150828 ?   Sl   16:54   0:02 
/usr/bin/kitty
sirius 56533  1.5  0.2  61388 35692 ?Ss   16:54   0:01 
/usr/bin/kitty
sirius 56595  0.0  0.0   9212  2096 pts/2S+   16:55   0:00 grep 
kitty\|rxvt\|USER

Good old urxvt is quite lightweight compared to kitty.

-- 
Kind regards,

/S

Re: Paquete no Upgrade

[N4ch0]

On Wed May 1, 2024 at 2:50 AM -03, César Espino wrote:
> Me pasa lo mismo, quiero ser paciente para que se arreglen.
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2024 at 11:48 AM Camaleón  wrote:
>
> > El 2024-04-30 a las 10:40 -0300, N4ch0 escribió:
> >
> > > El mar, 30 abr 2024 a las 10:35, Camaleón ()
> > escribió:
> >
> > (...)
> >
> > > > > > Te paso:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > me in ~  took 25s
> > > > > >  00:19:22 ❯ sudo apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > > Reading package lists... Done
> > > > > > Building dependency tree... Done
> > > > > > Reading state information... Done
> > > > > > Calculating upgrade... Done
> > > > > > The following packages have been kept back:
> > > > > >libzvbi-common (0.2.42-1.1 => 0.2.42-2)
> > > > > >0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
> > > > >
> > > > > La orden es:
> > > > >
> > > > > apt-get update && apt-get -V dist-upgrade
> > > > > ^^
> > > > >
> > > > > (actualiza siempre antes los repos/paquetes)
> > > >
> > > > Vale, ya veo lo que pasa, en mi tetsing me dice exactamente lo mismo
> > > > (tengo 2 paquetes retenidos).
> > > >
> > > > Hay problemas de dependencias entre paquetes que no se pueden resolver
> > > > por apt automáticamente, bien por error en el empaquetado o porque hay
> > > > que esperar a que se actualicen los repos y se incorporen las nuevas
> > > > dependencias.
> > > >
> > > > La orden que me ha dado la pista es:
> > > >
> > > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> > > >
> > > > Hoy me ha actualizado *cientos* de paquetes, toca esperar.
> > > >
> > >
> > > No estoy frente al equipo ahora, que te ha arrojado esa orden?
> > >
> > > apt-get --with-new-pkgs upgrade libzvbi-common
> >
> > Pues te dice que tiene problemas indirectos con 2 paquetes de VLC, que
> > efectivamente sí están rotos (ahora mismo) en testing:
> >
> > 1.
> > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/vlc-plugin-base
> >
> > dep: libaribb24-0 (>= 1.0.3)
> > Package not available
> >
> > dep: libspatialaudio0 (>= 0.3.0+git20180730+dfsg1)
> > Package not available
> >
> > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > Package not available
> >
> > 2.
> > https://packages.debian.org/trixie/libavcodec60
> > dep: libzvbi0 (>= 0.2.35)
> > Package not available
> > 
> >
> > Saludos,
> >
> > --
> > Camaleón
> >
> >

A todo esto, está asentado en alguna web esto que está pasando? en
tracker por ej?

Por ej el paquete que a vos Camaleon te dice que no está disponible, no
termino de entender la lógica de la web [1]


[1] https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libspatialaudio

Wine 32 y 64 simultáneamente

[JavierDebian]

El 28/4/24 a las 17:15, JavierDebian escribió:


Debian es hermoso
Excepto con wine.
Siempre lo instalo desde WineHQ.



Hola,

Gracias
¿ sabes si se puede instalar simultaneamente el 32 y 64 bits?¿ como 
funciona con Plauonlinux?



Saludos,

Julián

bullseye es LTS, por lo que tendrá soporte hasta 30/03/2026
bookworm también, y estará hasta 30/06/2028

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS

JAP



--
Julian Daich 


Buen día.

Sí, se puede, modificando los prefijos de los contenedores

https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=37150

Una cosa: No secuestres hilos, es decir, cambiar el tópico del tema en 
una conversación.


JAP

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Dan Ritter]

Richmond wrote: 
> Is it possible to have a graphic equalizer for sound output? I am using
> the Mate desktop. I installed EasyEffects from a flatpak and it appears
> on the menu but does nothing. I don't know the command line. Probably
> there is an error.

I don't know anything about why a flatpak would work or not.

You can apt install easyeffects ; it requires PipeWire. Running
it should produce a window full of available effects for both
input and output including a parametric equalizer.

Parametric EQs are not the same as graphic EQs, but they are
reasonably easy to understand and offer much more control.

Suppose you want to boost all the bass below 50Hz. The
parametric type you want is a "shelf", the frequency is 50Hz,
the Q doesn't matter (because it's a shelf) and the volume
change is whatever you want -- +3dB is a safe number to produce
an audible effect without being overwhelming.

If you have a room with one length being 4m, it might have a
resonance at 86Hz. To dial that down, you would select a bell
shaped parameter, centered at 86Hz, and play with the Q until
the range is 83-89Hz. Then reduce it by 3 or 6 dB and listen.

Does that help?

-dsr-

Re: speaker-test: no correct sound output on LFE and others speakers

[Franco Martelli]

Hi Alexandre,

On 30/04/24 at 14:07, Alexandre Rossi wrote:

Hi,


Basically I've the same issue described here:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1180389/speaker-test-returns-all-6-channels-to-front-speakers

The speaker-test program is provided by the alsa-utils package. I'm using
Debian 12 Bookworm, I've no ~/.asoundrc file. My /proc/asound/cards returns:

~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
  0 [SB ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
   HDA ATI SB at 0xfe40 irq 16
  1 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
   HDA NVidia at 0xfe08 irq 57

I've 5.1 speakers the LOGITECH Z906 audio system plugged to the PC via 3
jacks (left/right), (Center/Subwoofer), (Rear left/ Rear right).


I assume your cabling is right and your SB soundcard has surround out
(3 jacks as you describe it, and not mic and line out for instance). The labels
on the jacks would confirm that, so would the user manual of your motherboard or
sound card.


The MoBo is an old ASUSTeK Computer Inc. M5A99X EVO (R1.0) and it has 
three jacks of different colors to connect to the Logitech Z906 case, 
there aren't labels, only colored jacks: Orange, Black and Lime there is 
also a Gray jack for "Side speakers" so the hardware support up to 
Surround 7.1 in addition it also have an optical S/PDIF out port unused.

The audio device is:

~# lspci -nnv -s 00:14.2
00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (rev 40)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) 
[1043:84fb]
Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 16, NUMA node 
0, IOMMU group 10

Memory at fe40 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel





The issue is that speaker-test doesn't play sound to the correct speaker. If
I run:

~$ speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -s3 -f75

The sound comes from (Center), (Front right), (Rear left) and (Rear right)
speakers instead (Front right) only.


What's bothering me is that you get sound from multiple speakers while
instructing out on only one.

The usual issues of these setups with surround analog out are:
- channel mapping issues (driver/hardware mismatch)
- software downmixing to stereo

There are other usual issues with surrount digital out but this is not
your setup.

You can have a look at [1] for software fixes on this.

[1] https://alsa.opensrc.org/SurroundSound


The link you posted it shows rather outdated fixes, it talked about 
Jackd daemon and surround, but I have pulseaudio daemon, maybe I've 
pulseaudio daemon misconfiguration, I tried what suggested here:


https://askubuntu.com/a/1304054

but unluckily  it doesn't work, this is what's enabled in 
/etc/pulse/daemon.conf:


~$ grep -v "^#\|^;\|^[[:space:]]*$" /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
remixing-produce-lfe = yes
remixing-consume-lfe = yes
lfe-crossover-freq = 80

and this is what's in the log after a reboot:

~# journalctl -b | grep pulseaudio
mag 01 14:57:28 itek systemd[1254]: Listening on pulseaudio.socket - 
Sound System.
mag 01 14:57:28 itek systemd[1254]: Starting pulseaudio.service - Sound 
Service...
mag 01 14:57:32 itek systemd[1254]: Started pulseaudio.service - Sound 
Service.
mag 01 14:57:48 itek pulseaudio[1273]: Hole in stream, cannot fast 
forward LFE filter
mag 01 14:57:48 itek pulseaudio[1273]: Hole in stream, cannot fast 
forward LFE filter
mag 01 14:57:54 itek plasmashell[1390]: org.kde.plasma.pulseaudio: No 
object for name "alsa_output.pci-_00_14.2.analog-surround-51.monitor"


any clue? Thank you very much

--
Franco Martelli

Re: clavier console [Résolu Vraiment]

[MERLIN Philippe]

Bonjour,
Mon dernier message indiquait que le problème était résolu ce que je croyaiscar 
en fait 
après reboot les consoles générées par Ctrl Alt Fn avaient toujours le clavier 
en *Qwerty* 
et non *Azerty*.
En désespoir de cause j'étais prêt à créer un rapport de Bug concernant le 
paquet 
*keyboard-configuration * le logiciel générant les rapports de Bug indique tous 
le Bugs 
concernant ce paquet et aussi un autre paquet console-setup.
Après examen des paquets installés *console-setup* était absent les 
fonctionnalités de ce 
paquet sont de mettre en harmonie la configuration *X *et *TTY*.
installation du paquet *console-setup*
j'ai fait dpkg-reconfigure *console-setup* peut être non nécessaire.
Toujours que maintenant le problème est résolu vraiment.
Dois je faire un rapport de Bug concernant *keyboard-configuration *car pour 
moi 
l'installation de ces deux paquets devraient être liés impérativement.
Surtout que cette mésaventure est arrivée après une MAJ avant cette MAJ je 
n'avais jamais 
ce problème.

>
> > MERLIN Philippe  a écrit :
> > > Une question que je me pose pourquoi la commande dpkg-reconfigure
> > > keyboard- configuration...
> > > qui gère ce fichier /etc/vconsole.conf n'ajoute pascette ligne es ce
> > > normal ou c'est un bug ?
> > 
> > Sous Debian Sid, le fichier /etc/vconsole.conf est un lien symbolique
> > vers /etc/default/keyboard et ne devrait donc pas être édité
> > manuellement.
> > 
> > Le mieux serait de :
> > - Sauvegarder /etc/default/keyboard et /etc/vconsole.conf
> > - Supprimer /etc/vconsole.conf
> > - Créer un lien symbolique :
> > # ln -s /etc/default/keyboard /etc/vconsole.conf
> > - Reconfigurer le clavier :
> > # dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
> > - Appliquer les modifications sans redémarrer :
> > # udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change
> 
> le lien existait déjà et quand j'ai modifié /etc/vconsole.conf cela a
> modifié /etc/default/keyboard .
> D'autre part je signalais que le dpkg-reconfigure n'a pas ajoutéau fichier
> la ligne KEYMAP=fr qui solutionne le problème du clavier AZERTY en mode
> console sans serveur X.

Re: Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Curt]

On 2024-05-01, Richmond  wrote:
> Is it possible to have a graphic equalizer for sound output? I am using
> the Mate desktop. I installed EasyEffects from a flatpak and it appears
> on the menu but does nothing. I don't know the command line. Probably
> there is an error.

Why install from flatpak when there is a native Debian package?

At any rate, the wiki informs me that you need to install pipewire to
get the easyeffects app to work. You don't mention pipewire, so maybe
your problem lies in not having this essential dependency installed.

I'm unfamiliar with flatplak, so I don't whether it would've installed
this dependency, as would've occurred had you simply relied on our
venerable deb system, which generally works like the proverbial charm.

https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/pipewire

(an audio and video processing engine multimedia server).



> Debian 12.
>
>


-- 

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, May 01, 2024 at 02:31:49PM +0200, Sirius wrote:
> zutty is kind of only necessary when you want something *really*
> lightweight and you do not need to worry about UTF-8. Just writing this
> means a trip down memory lane and back to configuring CTWM on old Sun 5
> workstations back in the 90's. If Debian still packages it, look for rxvt
> instead, or use xterm. Both are well tried and well tested for when you
> want something .. dated. ;)

The original rxvt is no longer packaged in Debian, as far as I can see.
There's rxvt-unicode, which is what I use, which has most of the same
look and feel as rxvt, but is substantially larger.

Between xterm and rxvt-unicode you should have most of your "basic
no-frills terminal" needs met by one or the other.

Graphic Equalizer for Sound

[Richmond]

Is it possible to have a graphic equalizer for sound output? I am using
the Mate desktop. I installed EasyEffects from a flatpak and it appears
on the menu but does nothing. I don't know the command line. Probably
there is an error.

Debian 12.

Re: Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Sirius]

In days of yore (Wed, 01 May 2024), Richmond thus quoth: 
> I am puzzled by the zutty terminal emulator. I have tried:
> 
>  1186  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -fontsize 20
>  1187  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -font adobe
>  1190  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 20
>  1191  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 24
>  1192  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 12
>  1193  zutty -font 9x20
>  1198  zutty -fontsize 10x20
>  1199  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 10x20
>  1200  zutty -font 10x20
> 
> I clearly have fonts:
> 
> find /usr/share/fonts -print|grep "x20"
> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/10x20-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/10x20-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz
> /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/10x20-ISO8859-11.pcf.gz

Use 'xlsfonts' to see what fonts are available and use those names.
I can get it working with "zutty -font 12x24" and other numerically named
fonts. Trying with something like 'lucidasans-24' will make it dump core
however.

Maybe it respects what you tell it via .Xresources or what the file used
to be called, when you had to configure fonts by sitting with xfontsel and
try and work out what would look decent. The manual pages for xterm should
have enough clues for how to configure that - I have already forgotten all
that stuff as it no longer is required with the more modern terminal
emulators.

> Nothing I have tried works, zutty always uses the same rather small
> font.
> 
> https://tomscii.sig7.se/zutty/doc/USAGE.html#Font%20selection
> 
> Has this package been implemented correctly?
> 
> aptitude show zutty
> Package: zutty   
> Version: 0.14.0.20230218+dfsg1-1
> 
> cat /etc/issue
> Debian GNU/Linux 12 \n \l

zutty is kind of only necessary when you want something *really*
lightweight and you do not need to worry about UTF-8. Just writing this
means a trip down memory lane and back to configuring CTWM on old Sun 5
workstations back in the 90's. If Debian still packages it, look for rxvt
instead, or use xterm. Both are well tried and well tested for when you
want something .. dated. ;)

-- 
Kind regards,

/S

Re: Linux mobilise désormais 15 % de parts sur les desktops en Inde, une performance qui contraste avec les 4 % à l'échelle globale

[Informatique BILLARD]

Bonjour,

oui curieux ce chiffre, mais il ne pourra pas augmenter sans un effort 
des producteurs de logiciels. Utilisateur de Linux depuis une vingtaine 
d'année et enseignant dans le secteur professionnel Windows est 
incontournable car quasiment tous les logiciels métiers sont sous 
windows et n'ont pas de version Linux.


Pour exemple, Siemens fournissait une version Linux d'un de ses outils 
il y a peu et plus maintenant. Quand à l'utilisation de l'émulateur wine 
ou playonlinux ce n'est pas toujours possible, comme par exemple avec  
des outil dont j'ai besoin.


Cordialement

M. Billard

Le 30/04/2024 à 08:15, Alex PADOLY a écrit :


Voici le lien pour plus de détail :


Lien 




J'ai du mal à comprendre ces chiffres, LINUX à fait beaucoup de 
progrès en termes de vulgarisation, pour Debian,  j'ai commencé par la 
distribution slink,


c'était difficile, mais pas insurmontable.

Quand on voit la distribution Mint, c'est une distribution prête à 
être utilisée.


Depuis Windows 10, on a un OS qui est devenu opaque, respecte peu la 
vie privée des utilisateurs, concernant les performances, je ne peux 
m'exprimer


car je n'utilise pas ou occasionnellement au travail.


Il faut que les personnes ouvrent les yeux !!

Zutty fonts - zutty always uses the same font and fontsize

[Richmond]

I am puzzled by the zutty terminal emulator. I have tried:

 1186  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -fontsize 20
 1187  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/ -font adobe
 1190  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 20
 1191  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 24
 1192  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 12
 1193  zutty -font 9x20
 1198  zutty -fontsize 10x20
 1199  zutty -fontpath /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ -fontsize 10x20
 1200  zutty -font 10x20

I clearly have fonts:

find /usr/share/fonts -print|grep "x20"
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/10x20-ISO8859-9.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/10x20-ISO8859-3.pcf.gz
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/10x20-ISO8859-11.pcf.gz
...


Nothing I have tried works, zutty always uses the same rather small
font.

https://tomscii.sig7.se/zutty/doc/USAGE.html#Font%20selection

Has this package been implemented correctly?

aptitude show zutty
Package: zutty   
Version: 0.14.0.20230218+dfsg1-1

cat /etc/issue
Debian GNU/Linux 12 \n \l

grub requirements for fonts

[Richard]

I'd like to increase the font size in Grub (v2.12, at least I think that's
the better alternative to just lowering the resolution) and opted to just
use a custom font as there seems to be an OTF version of "GNU Unifont",
though it seems to be jagged by design, but I'm running into issues. I
thought about just using Noto Mono Regular for it, as Noto is supposed to
always work and a monospaced font is recommended for easier setting of
letters, as Grub uses bitmap fonts. Now my issue is that on one hand, the
conversion to a bitmap font seems to be quite bad, the letters look really
jagged. On the other hand, it seems that despite Noto supposed to being
about no tofu, I actually get a lot of tofu. Both the up and down arrows in
the description text at the bottom of grubs boot selector and the border
around everything is just made up of tofu. And I tried converting the
font with both grub-mkfont and Grub Customizer, same result.

So what exactly are the requirements for fonts to be used in Grub so that
they are converted to PFF2 fonts in a higher quality and don't show tofu?

Best
Richard

Re: recent Trixie upgrade removed nfs client

[Brad Rogers]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2024 15:48:09 -0400
Gary Dale  wrote:

Hello Gary,

>Yes but: both gdb and nfs-client installed fine. Moreover, the 
>nfs-client doesn't appear to be a dependency of any of the massive load 
>of files updated lately.  The gdb package however is but for some

This transition is ongoing;  Just because a package is uninstallable
today, doesn't mean the same will be true tomorrow.  Sometimes,
dependencies transfer in the wrong order.

Minor point;  nfs-client doesn't appear to exist in Debian.  At least,
not according my search of https://packages.debian.org  Closest packages I 
could find are nfs-common or ndb-client.

>Shouldn't autoremove only offer to remove packages that used to be a 
>dependency but aren't currently (i.e. their status has changed)?

There are lots of inter-dependant relationships (that I don't even
pretend to understand).  It's not as simple as 'X doesn't depend on Y, so
it should not be removed'.  There's (nearly) always other things going
on at such times as this.  For example, it's not until today I could get
libllvmt64 to install, and replace, libllvm.  For several days,
attempting the replacement would have ended up with broken packages, so
the upgrade was not allowed.

Sometimes, only upgrading a subset of the packages offered can help;
apt isn't perfect at resolving all the issues.  Assuming the issues are
solvable in the first place.  This is not a criticism of apt, because
aptitude and synaptic can have difficulties, too.  Each tool has its
foibles.

On top of all that, I've found quite a few library packages don't
automatically migrate to their t64 counterpart.  Whether that's by
accident or design, IDK.  What I do know is that the act of installing
(manually) the t64 version will force the removal of the old version.
There's usually a 'complaint' about such an action (warning about
removing an in use library), but it proceeds without problems.

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Re: Pb montage iSCSI sur serveur

[Pierre Malard]

M…

J’aurais du y penser ! Quel c… !

Merci Gilles

> Le 30 avr. 2024 à 19:19, Gilles Mocellin  a 
> écrit :
> 
> Le mardi 30 avril 2024, 12:15:36 CEST Pierre Malard a écrit :
>> Bonjour,
>> 
>> Nous avons une baie HPE MSA2060 reliée en iSCSI à un serveur et voudrions
>> monter les volumes créés sur la baie SAN MSA dessus. Le serveur est relié
>> en double attachement sur les 2 contrôleurs de la baie sur 2 VLAN
>> différents (10 et 11) et le MTU déclaré de 9000 correspond bien à la
>> fenêtre recommandée. Le tout est relié en 10 GB via une carte Intel x722 et
>> cuivre (moins d’un mètre, câble cat 7 ou 8) via un GBIC SFP/cuivre :
> [...]
> 
>> Je n’y comprend absolument rien hailpeux !
> 
> Probablement un problème d'ordre de démarrage.
> Quand le montage d'un filesystem est décrit dans /etc/fstab, ça bloque le boot
> si il échoue.
> Ton iSCSI a besoin du réseau, ce qui arrive généralement après la lecture du
> fstab.
> C'est pourquoi il existe une option de montage à mettre dans le fstab :
> _netdev.
> Et je te conseille d'ajouter aussi l'option nofail, qui permet de continuer à
> booter en cas de problème.
> 
> => man fstab
> => man mount
> 
> 
> 

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