Re: Sarge-Etch: so far so good
On Jun 11 2005, Maurits van Rees wrote: On Sat, Jun 11, 2005 at 11:15:32AM +0200, Jonathan Kaye wrote: Like many others on this list I am tracking testing which is now Etch rather than Sarge. It would be nice to receive regular reports on how the transition is going. Good to hear. I am also using testing and I am quite happy with the number of updated packages that have not entered sarge. It would be a great service if anyone encountering problems write to this list and let us know about it. Forewarned is forearmed. I won't stop anyone from reporting here; that is fine with me. But also use the system: report bugs with the reportbug package. And install the apt-listbugs package to warn you. I also second that. And I would also recommend apt-listchanges (I can't live without this one so that I can received what's new in my e-mail after I upgrade something). Not only that, but do the community a favour and install reportbug and as soon as you encounter something wrong, please file a bug to the corresponding package. Hope this helps, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: woody-sarge failed: out pf disk space
On Jun 11 2005, Hendrik Boom wrote: Will try again. But ... Is it possible to resume the broken upgrade? Yes, it is. But besides the hint given by the previous poster, it would be nice if you could purge some unneeded packages, install both debophan and debfoster and remove unneeded packages/libraries. It would make your life easier on a low resource machine. Or is that hopeless, and is it better to just start over? No, don't give up. It is definitely not hopeless. You can start from where you stopped. BTW, svscan means that you're using djb's tools, right? Hope this helps, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: defoma/ghostscript/fontconfig/cups mess
On Jun 10 2005, Kirill wrote: The system is the latest x386 sid, first installed back in 2001 from a woody prerelease CD. All fonts are displayed just fine on screen in KDE. In KWord letter spacing is bad for some fonts, specifically Times New Roman. If you intend to generate postscript and/or PDF files, don't use Times New Roman. Use, instead: In place of | Use +--- Times New Roman | Times Courier New | Courier Verdana | Helvetica This way, the spacing won't be messed when you don't embed the fonts in your documents and happen to use the URW fonts (which are clones of Times, Courier and Helvetica). Also using Palatino (cloned by URW Palladio) isn't a bad choice, if you can choose what to use in your documents. Is this stuff supposed to work at all? What is the right way to unhose this mess? BTW, it would be nice if you read about Base 35 and Base 14 fonts to understand why I listed the above. Hope this helps, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bittorrent files for netinst images?
On Jun 09 2005, Joey Hess wrote: Rogério Brito wrote: Is there any bittorrent file for downloading and sharing netinst images of Debian? I would love to have it for, at least, x86 and powerpc. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/debian-31r0a-i386-netinst.iso.torrent Etc. Not directly linked in the lists of images because we can easily serve the full files for those from our massively provisioned CD image server. Thanks, Joey. I will grab the torrent files anyway and share as much as I can, since, after all, wasting less bandwidth from important servers is always good and, at least, I feel that I am doing something right. :-) Thank you very much, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Top-posting (another different view) (was: Re: Top posting (a different point of view))
On Jun 09 2005, John Carline wrote: But, it would make my reading/following of threads much easier if I didn't have to scroll down to the bottom of post after post in a long string just to read the one line added to the 200 I've already read. The point is: if somebody makes you scroll down many pages so that you can see his/her answer, then the problem is that that person is not using the right way of posting messages. Quoting messages should be to the point and only leave relevant pieces of older messages. And, of course, the attribution of each quote to the person that generated it. It would be much better added at the top, where it pops onto the screen immediately and I can go on to the next post. This isn't the case if what you are replying to needs a detailed answer. And this is usually the case of a technical mailing list, like this one. OTOH, if the person is only replying to a message in general, I see little motivation to the practice of top-posting. In fact, if the person doesn't really care about preserving the context to where he/she is replying, then why quote the message at all? Just start a reply to the thread from scratch. Since that person is already assuming that the others are following the thread to where the message is being sent, why preserve the older messages' contents? Just another view on this polemical issue, Rogério Brito. -- Learn to quote e-mails decently at: http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html http://pub.tsn.dk/how-to-quote.php http://learn.to/quote http://www.xs4all.nl/~sbpoley/toppost.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bittorrent files for netinst images?
Hi there, people. Is there any bittorrent file for downloading and sharing netinst images of Debian? I would love to have it for, at least, x86 and powerpc. I have already tried to look at cdimage.debian.org for such information but found nothing there (there are, on the other hand, bittorrent files for the whole CDs, but that's too much, I think). I may have missed this while looking at those pages, though. I would love to help sharing the little bandwidth that I have for such images. Thanks for any hints, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mutt + dovecot/squirrelmail + mbox ?
On Jun 05 2005, Monique Y. Mudama wrote: For the last few years, I've been running mutt directly on my mail server to access mbox-formatted mail. I have switched to mutt (from pine) since the pre-1.x days (it's ben more than 7 years, as far as I can remember) just for reading my mail in Maildir format and I haven't had any problems with that (well, besides when Debian's mutt got some header cache problems, but that was a problem with mutt and not with Maildir exactly). I adore mutt, but there are a few situations when webmail is handy. Yes, unfortunately. And the way I have things set up here, I use fetchmail to get my e-mail from a dozen accounts, feed it to qmail, then qmail calls procmail which calls spamassassin and then everything is delivered into its proper Maildir. I use courier-imap-ssl here on my personal machine so that I can switch the MUA as much as I want. And that includes using webmail. I simply can't live without IMAP(S) after seeing the light. The only thing that I am not really sure about is the IMAP server to use: dovecot, courier or bincimap. The last time I checked (which was quite some time ago), bincimap was much slower than courier and I didn't have the time to play with dovecot, but I think that those projects have now progressed to the point of a re-evaluation. Sometimes I get an email with a lot of links, and I'd like to just middle-click and open them in new tabs. This problem you can solve easily with urlview. BTW, some really nice add-ons to mutt are, IMVHO: * urlview * post-el (for people using Emacs) * muttprint (generates really nice output from emails) * lbdb (way too handy to use with vCards and gnome-pim, for instance) So, to summarize, I mostly want to use mutt to access my mail directly on the server, but every now and then I also want to view my mail using a web client. Yes, installing an IMAP server is the way to go, IMVHO. Yeah, that's just not going to work for me. IMAP is really just a means to the end of webmail for me, but webmail is only a secondary concern; I need to be able to run mutt, and being able to use grepmail and similar utilities is also pretty important. What's the problem with having mutt access your mail via IMAP on your local machine? I've been doing this for quite some time and it works quite well. And it also opens the possibility of you using, say, horde as a webmail server which can contact courier-imap to do its job. It may be that courier and horde aren't the best solutions to the problem, but the infra-structure that you'll use will mostly be like that, in terms of the problem you're trying to solve. Hope this helps, Rogério. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slightly off topic..
On Jun 05 2005, Paul Johnson wrote: The list is open, though you might want to add a couple rules to /etc/spamassassin/local.cf (...) Thanks for the rules. I will surely be checking them. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On IMAP servers (was: Re: mutt + dovecot/squirrelmail + mbox ?)
On Jun 05 2005, Steve Lamb wrote: I'd say go with UW's IMAP server. I'd say go with UW's IMAP server *only* if your computer isn't facing the Internet -- it has a bad security track history and many people don't trust it. as far as I can tell there is none. Either it works or it doesn't. :D Same thing with Courier. There are some things that can be configured, but the defaults are sane, especially those employed by the Debian packaged version. Just to be fair, though, Courier's reputation is *not* that good also (hint: see what Binc IMAP means and you'll get it), but it works fine. I hope to find some time to evaluate the many IMAP servers side-by-side and create a good report of my experiences. Anyway, that is what I use here. UW for IMAP, squirrel for web based, mutt for local when I really need it, Thunderbird through IMAP 99.9% of the time. Here I agree with the method for flexibility of reading e-mail. Not only Thunderbird, but other MUAs, independently of what platform you're confined to use. That's the beauty of IMAP, IMVHO. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables problem
On Jun 04 2005, Luis R Finotti wrote: After that iptables is not working anymore. Here is a the errors that I get: (...) Before you try more drastic changes (like installing a new kernel -- see below), can you try running depmod as root? If you have problems trying to insert the module after that, then, please report back. The problem loading the ip_conntrack module you are seeing is quite possibly due to a mismatch between the installations of the kernel that you had. Another possibility would be to install another completely different version of the kernel (like, say, 2.6.11, which has many improvements over 2.6.8, BTW). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. (Google did not help...) Hope this helps, Rogério. P.S.: I don't use the kernels provided by Debian -- I don't like having my system using initrd's which is, AFAIK, what distributions' packaged kernels tend to use. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On Jun 02 2005, Colin wrote: So, a couple of days after all these packages are submitted, they will eventually find their way into testing. *IF* no bug with high severity is found/reported during the time between the upload of the package and the period necessary to hit testing. Hope this clears the situation a bit, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On Jun 02 2005, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: That is slightly inaccurate. There are huge changes on the way (X.org 6.8.2, GNOME 2.10, and others). Yes, the main problems would be the partial migration of huge systems like Gnome. OTOH, the dependencies on basic packages may be a solution to prevent the packages to hit testing (and filing bug reports with appropriate severity if they are not yet ready for public consumption). This has been done in the past and I would expect that things would not change so soon (see the many dummy bugs reported like this package is not suitable for testing). -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will Sid go nuts?
On Jun 01 2005, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I _had_ planned on just staying with 'testing' in my sources.list. Is that a bad idea? I *will* stay with testing in my sources.list. It is a way to be always testing the distribution and reporting problems that you see, giving feedback to the developers. So, you're not the only one. But if you *do* need a rock-solid desktop, then stable is what you should stick to. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Latex Q - page number appears on pg 1 with empty pagestyle
On May 31 2005, Christiane Reher wrote:
Try this \addtocounter{page}{-1}
This worked for me!
I think that the proper/clean way to avoid numbers on the first page is to
issue the command:
\thispagestyle{empty}
right before the contents of what will be in the first page.
Hope this helps, Rogério Brito.
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Re: Unable to properly install 2 packages
On May 31 2005, J.F.Gratton wrote: I never took any time to delve into the innards of the install system on Debian since I never had any problems. Well, tonite is the nite ! :) I would suggest that you run fsck on the involved filesystems. It may find other corruptions. I would stop using the system *now*, if I were you. Use something like (as root): shutdown -F -r now Hope this helps, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
