Re: Quake3 hangs after GL Initialisation

2001-08-24 Thread Aquila
Have you tried running without sound? You should also try killing esd
and any other processes using up your /dev/dsps. If sound init fails Q3
does hang after switching resolution, so I think sound is your problem.

Aq.

On 24 Aug 2001 04:36:20 -0700, Herbert Pirke wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a woody/sid running on XFree 4.1 and a 2.4.7
 SMP Kernel. My soundcard is a SB64 PCI (es1371) and
 the grafic board is a Voodoo3 3000.
 
 I had DRI properly configured and everything was
 working fine. Q3 ran at decent framerates and with
 sound.
 
 But when I started playing around with the video
 settings, I suddely had some unexpected crashes
 (complete halts of the system!). And all of a sudden I
 can't start Q3 any more. It initialises all the GL
 extensens and when it says Sound Init, it just stops
 right after this header. When I moved my mouse, I
 could scroll to other parts of the screen, as if Q3
 didin't switch in fullscreen mode but changed to
 640x400 with leaving the virtual desctop size to
 1200x1024.
 
 Does anyone know why this happend? I already
 re-installed Q3 and Xfree 4.1 nut it didn't help...
 
 Herbert
 
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Re: NVidia GeForce2 MX

2001-08-24 Thread Aquila
You should really compile your own nvidia drivers (apt-get install
nvidia-kernel-src nvidia-glx-src) instead of using nv. It REALLY makes a
difference to your performance.

Aq.

On 23 Aug 2001 07:05:51 -0500, Wayne Sitton wrote:
 I have the same card, run KDE, with no problems.  I also choose the nv 
 option.  Actually, if your running XFree86 4.X make sure you choose the 
 XFree86 server. and make nv the option.
 
 Wayne
 
 
 On Thursday 23 August 2001 06:24, Heidelinde Meier wrote:
 
   Hello !
  I got a problem with the graphical representation of my KDE-environment
  while using a GeForce2 MX Graphic card. I configured the screen with
  XF86-Config-4.
 
  The problem is: when I open a netscape browser window and I move it over
  other open windows like console, konqueror and so on there are
  disturbances on the other underlying windows especially at the edge and
  the scripture  of the underlying windows.
  I recently observed this problem only with netscape - other applications
  don't make any problems.
 
  Is it a problem of the driver (I used the nv-driver when choosing the
  driver for the graphic card in the XF86-Config-file?
 
  Many thanks in advance
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Re: Adsl at start...

2001-08-24 Thread Aquila
Just put a script in /etc/init.d/ that brings up the connection if the
parameter is start and brings down the connection if the parameter is
stop, then symlink appropriate entries in your run level directories
(/etc/rcN.d) or use the update-rc.d script.

Aq.

On 24 Aug 2001 10:06:30 -0500, usucapiao wrote:
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 I would like to know how can i bring my adsl connection at start.
 PS:I use the rp-pppoe script (adsl-start, adsl-stop, etc..)
 
 
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Re: Do I need ldso

2001-08-24 Thread Aquila
On 24 Aug 2001 12:37:27 -0500, Nathan E Norman wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 24, 2001 at 06:15:42PM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
  Deborphan says there is nothing dependent on ldso but it is nevertheless
  classified as essential.
 
 You only need ldso if you want to be able to use code which is linked
 againt dynamic libraries.  Try this:
 
   cd /usr/bin; file * grep shared
 
 If you don't need any of those commands (or the stuff in /bin, /sbin,
 /usr/sbin, etc.) feel free to remove ldso.

Don't be so sarcastic, the dynamic linker/loader is certainly essential,
but the newest version is part of the libc6 package, the one in the
(obsolete) ldso package is an old version (1.9.11?) and is for libc5
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Re: Download managers?

2001-07-11 Thread Aquila
lftp is actually really good, it supports http/https too! You can
download something, hit ^Z (it will background the download) and keep
browsing, download something else, hit ^Z again, etc.. to download
multiple files. If you accidently close your xterm when downloading,
lftp will move your current downloads to the background and finish them
for you! It rocks!

Aq.

On 10 Jul 2001 20:14:56 -0500, Jeremy wrote:
 I am running stable, and I was wondering if there are any (preferably
non-X)
 download managers that run well (and possibly come with) Debian.  I need it
 for downloading some ISOs from a dialup connection that I can only use at
 night.
 
 Thanks for any help,
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Re: xserver-svga geforce2 woes

2001-07-09 Thread Aquila
Why are you using the xserver-svga? Shouldn't you be using nvidia's own
module with xserver-xfree86? As for KDE, you could choose that from gdm
(after you install task-kde), or you can play around with your .xsession
file (if you use startx).

On 08 Jul 2001 20:43:42 -0700, Patrick Gray wrote:
 
 hello.
 
 i have been toying with the idea of switching to debian gnu/linux as my main 
 OS (as opposed to win98), so i partitioned off an extra 5 gigs of space for 
 me to experiment with getting everything running all smoothly before i commit 
 myself to a bunch of data loss, and a couple nights of kicking myself for 
 even considering switching.
 
 i have run the install process about 5 times now.  everything console based 
 comes up fine, like a dream even.  but i'm having some issues with X.  i run 
 a pentium3 933, the graphics card being an nVidia GeForce2 GTS the monitor is 
 a Sony Multiscan 420GS.  the XF86Setup program comes up fine, but if i tell 
 it to use the SVGA server it chokes.  well okay, it doesn't choke, but it 
 displays junk on the screen (irrelevant junk, mostly lines and dots).  i'm 
 not saying that it comes up to anything readable either, it *just* displays 
 junk.  if i CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE out, it doesn't even reinitialize the console, 
 the junk just turns to black and white.  only a reboot will bring it back.
 
 i've installed woody, i've installed potato, hell i've even installed 
 unstable, but nothing will stop this from happening...the SVGA server is 
 crucial for me.
 
 and while i'm asking questions, i can't seem to get KDE to be the default 
 window manager.  it always brings up xdm or some other clone with little to 
 no use.  any ideas would be helpful.
 
 thank you in advance.
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: HELP!!!

2001-06-30 Thread Aquila
This could possibly be the libpam* problem which has nothing to do with
your UT installation or manual fscking... did you apt-get upgrade prior
to last reboot? Try boot into single user mode and apt-get
update/upgrade again.

On 30 Jun 2001 12:39:24 +0200, vester wrote:
 
 hi everyone --
 
 i fear i did something stupid.
 
 i wanted to try and see how good linux games actually work, so i
 downloaded the unreal tournament installer from loki, copied the cds to my
 windows hard disk (because i didn't have support for joliet extension in
 linux) and well...installed, which seemed to work fine. i then tried to
 start, but got some error messages because of missing paths, which didn't
 look very serious really. but then i restarted...on boot up, there were a
 lot of errors found on the hard disk and thus, the root system was mounted
 read-only and i was prompted to run fsck manually. i did that and answered
 yes to the questions (i realise now that i maybe shouldn't have done that)
 and it seemed as if everything had been fixed, for on the next reboot
 everything worked fine...all my scripts were executed and i ended up in
 gdm and wanted to log in...but that didn't work. i switched over to the
 console and tried to log in from there. no way. login incorrect is what
 i get for all my user accounts and for the root account too! i am
 desperate...i need to get back into my system! on the one hand i put weeks
 and weeks into configuring and customizing everything and on the other
 hand all my important data are in there...please, please help me...the
 loki support people have not answered me yet and i am on the verge of
 panicking.
 
 oh yes, my system is debian woody (with a few things from sid) with kernel
 2.4.5...i don't know what else to say. :-(
 
 thanks all!
 
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Re:

2001-06-29 Thread Aquila
I have an ASUS A7V133, and the chipset is VIA. It should be the same for
you, but you should consult your motherboard manual.

Since you're using a GeForce 2 GTS, you'll be using the nvidia kernel
and X drivers. It needs either kernel AGP support or the nvidia AGP
support, and you add the NvAGP option to your X config to choose
between the 2. If you use the former, then you'll need to compile AGP
support in the kernel.

Aq.

On 29 Jun 2001 15:54:34 +0200, Johannes Jörg wrote:
 Hello List
 
 I'm going to migrate from a PIII 500 to an athlon.
 My new Mainboard wil be an Asus A7M266. To use AGP (new GeForce 2 GTS,
 hehe), what kernel option will I have to enable for /dev/agpgart? Is it the
 Irongate chipset? I'm a bit confused because the kernel help says you 
 should
 probably say N, unless you want to test the GLX component for XFree86 3.3.6,
 but it says also ...gives you AGP support for the GLX component of the 
 XFree86
 4.x on AMD Irongate chipset...
 
 What does this mean?
 
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Re: HELP Please ! Can't login .

2001-06-27 Thread Aquila
You should read the other mails on this list.

Anyway you need to boot into single-user mode (append s after your
image name at lilo prompt), download the libpam*.deb packages from
http://incoming.debian.org and install them, then reboot.

On 27 Jun 2001 04:07:57 -0700, OSU wrote:
 hi,
 
 I am using kernel 2.4.5 with unstable, and was playing around installing 
 new software . But in the process I logged off to take a break and was not 
 able to log
 back in . I can not login as root or myself . Even before I am able to type 
 the password I get the error  loging incorrect . I am able to login as 
 root ( with the
 correct passwd ) if I boot in single user mode. However in this case I can 
 not su to any other user or even root . su gives the error  su: 
 Modules is unknown  . Based on what i found on the web I tried the 
 following but none worked :
 1) ran ldconfig
 2)  ran update-modules
 3) Mercylessly deleted all pam related packages except those in required 
 base which I reinstalled .
 4) Tried adduser but it failed with passwd giving the same error 
 Module is unknown
 
 How can I reverse these changes and/or find what package is causing the 
 problem ?
 
 thanking you
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Re: single-user mode? strange

2001-06-26 Thread Aquila
The problem is caused by some problems in the libpam* packages.

To boot into single user mode, if you're using lilo, just append s to
the end of your image name when you boot, like:

LILO: linux s

It will then boot and ask you for root password, which will work. Then
download the libpam* packages from http://incoming.debian.org/ and
install them with dpkg. Reboot and all should be well.

On 26 Jun 2001 13:47:01 -0400, Daniel Patrick Berdine wrote:
 I recently ran dselect and did an upgrade with unstable which had the
 result that I can't log in at all (typing 'root' at the login promt
 returns Login Incorrect, I don't even get to try the password, similar
 results with the kdm login screen).
 
 My first thought was to boot into single user mode and try and work things
 out from there, not sure how but it was a place to start.  I searched the
 archives and found several messages saying that to boot into single user
 mode I need to add the 'single' option at my lilo boot: prompt.
 
 So I tried 'Linux single' 'Linux Single' 'LinuxText single'
 'LinuxText2.4.3 single' and was inevitablly put into normal multi user
 mode.
 
 My normal kernel is 2.4.5, but you can see I also tried 2.4.3.
 
 Any suggestions?  I'm going to try using a boot floppy and such, but I
 would still like to know how to get into single-user mode...
 
 Thanks,
 
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RE: big IBM harddisk

2001-06-25 Thread Aquila
I think, if you can afford a 40G hard drive, and is still on a P100,
it's time to upgrade... (motherboard included)...

On 25 Jun 2001 09:06:46 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
 I think you're referring to IBM's program that allows you to control the DMA
 mode of the drive.  That won't have anything to do with getting the drive
 detected by the BIOS.
 
 Even if it can't talk to it, it should at least see it.  Check cables, check
 power, perhaps put the drive into another PC to check it.  There are issues
 with drives that large and usability... all three of my Abit motherboards
 have had BIOS updates specifically to deal with drives that big and larger.
 
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  -Original Message-
 From: virtanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:28 AM
 To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  big IBM harddisk
 
 Hi,
 
 I purchased a new 40 G IBM harddisk.
 
 My box is an old 100 MHz Pentium, with slot 5.
 
 The problem is that the motherboard doesn't understand the harddisk at
 all.
 
 The IBM own (DOS) program, which is supposed to help to fix the problem
 doesn't help. Even if I boot the box using that IBM setfix program, the
 motherboard doesn't find the new harddisk at all.
 
 My system is Debian 'Potato'.
 
 Anybody knows, what to do?
 
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RE: big IBM harddisk

2001-06-25 Thread Aquila
Hey, it was just a suggestion. My point was that reasonably new
components are affordable, that's all. 

On 25 Jun 2001 12:36:33 -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:
 Now that's awfully silly; what if his needs are storage and not
 processing? The last thing linux folks ought to be doing is following the
 Microsoft You must have at least a 1Ghz processor to write a shopping
 list line.
 
 On motherboards.com, he'll pay approx. $300 for a new motherboard and CPU,
 *assuming* (probably incorrectly) that his existing RAM and case will work
 with them. Same place, he can get a 60G hard drive for $245. You do the
 math.
 
 On the original question: I agree that there's probably some physical
 problem (cables connected incorrectly, drive physicially dead, jumpers set
 wrong, etc.).  Even if the BIOS doesn't understand the drive's geometry,
 it should be able to see it on the bus and even allow linux to access it.
 
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 On 26 Jun 2001, Aquila wrote:
 
  I think, if you can afford a 40G hard drive, and is still on a P100,
  it's time to upgrade... (motherboard included)...
  
  On 25 Jun 2001 09:06:46 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
   I think you're referring to IBM's program that allows you to control the 
   DMA
   mode of the drive.  That won't have anything to do with getting the drive
   detected by the BIOS.
   
   Even if it can't talk to it, it should at least see it.  Check cables, 
   check
   power, perhaps put the drive into another PC to check it.  There are 
   issues
   with drives that large and usability... all three of my Abit motherboards
   have had BIOS updates specifically to deal with drives that big and 
   larger.
   
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   From: virtanen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 6:28 AM
   To:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
   Subject:  big IBM harddisk
   
   Hi,
   
   I purchased a new 40 G IBM harddisk.
   
   My box is an old 100 MHz Pentium, with slot 5.
   
   The problem is that the motherboard doesn't understand the harddisk at
   all.
   
   The IBM own (DOS) program, which is supposed to help to fix the problem
   doesn't help. Even if I boot the box using that IBM setfix program, the
   motherboard doesn't find the new harddisk at all.
   
   My system is Debian 'Potato'.
   
   Anybody knows, what to do?
   
   Hannu Virtanen
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Re: installing KDE

2001-06-24 Thread Aquila
I think apt-get install task-kde is the proper way to do it. It's a
virtual package that depends on the actual kde packages.

On 24 Jun 2001 17:17:02 -0500, Zac Hostens wrote:
 Run dselect and choose the package kdebase, and it will install everything it 
 needs for kde, u dont have to download anything manually
 
 
 
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  I have a friend who wants to install KDE.  Other than getting all the
  packages from kde.org manually is there anything to apt-get install ?
  I can't find any packages for kde...
 
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Re: Help!!! Ethernet card hell!

2001-06-23 Thread Aquila
I don't know what could be wrong with your ethernet card, but it can't
be Debian's fault, coz the network driver modules are part of the linux
kernel. Perhaps you should just compile your own kernel.

It could just be a loose cable or something :)

I know that the natsemi.o module exists in the current kernel version
2.4.5 (and probably in many other versions before that). You need
CONFIG_NATSEMI=m in your kernel config.

Cheers,
Aq.

On 23 Jun 2001 11:42:19 -0400, Aaron Traas wrote:
 Overall, I love Debian as an OS. I've used it many times in a work
 environment, and apt-get simply rules. However, I have yet to
 successfully install Debian on one of my home machines. Here is the
 situation:
 
 I have 5 different ethernet cards without a permanent home: 4 different
 Tulip variants, and a Netgear FA311. I'm trying to get these to work on
 Debian 2.2r2. I am unable to get 2.2r3 because A) my CDRW on my Windoze
 box just died, and B) I can't get this machine to work with any ethernet
 card I have, so installing over the network is not an option.
 
 I've tried absolutely everything on the Tulip variants... all versions
 of the driver included (ng_tulip, old_tulip, tulip) in various ways.
 Most recently, I got one of the variants of the tulip to work by
 installing a clean system, and entering the following commands:
 
 insmod tulip
 ifconfig eth0 inet 10.1.1.50 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.1.1.255
 ifconfig eth0 up
 ping 10.1.1.1
 
 And everything worked fine! It was great! So I decided to re-install the
 system, and configure everything I wanted. I selected the tulip driver,
 and it loaded. I entered the same information above, along with a
 default gateway and DNS server address. The install finished, and I
 tried to ping the same address. It timed out. 
 
 I tried various things, including rmmoding the driver, and insmoding it,
 and redoing everything with ifconfig, but nothing works.
 
 I'd like to know what is going on here. I know for the fact the card was
 working just a few minutes ago. I also know that all of the cards I have
 work well under both Red Hat and Mandrake, which I used prior to Debian
 and got sick of. 
 
 Also, what driver am I supposed to use for the Netgear FA311? In other
 distros, it uses natsemi.o, which is not present in Debian 2.2r2.
 
 Can someone tell me what is going on? Debian is an incredibly robust OS,
 but if it can't work with the same ethernet cards that other distros use
 with ease, I'm going to have to switch back. I have 4 machines I want to
 install Debian on, all of which are currently running Mandrake and have
 Tulip cards in them (one of them has 4 such cards and is being used as a
 router), and I can't afford to just buy 7 new NICs. 
 
 Does anyone have a solution for me?
 
 
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Re: Compiling same kernel

2001-06-22 Thread Aquila
It is a little different, Debian has this package called
kernel-package (apt-get install it) which contains a script called
make-kpkg to create debian packages from kernel source. 

The usual procedure is this:
- download the kernel source for 2.2.17
- unpack it into /usr/src/linux-2.2.17
- create symlink from /usr/src/linux-2.2.17 to /usr/src/linux
(housekeeping)
- do your sound card patching or whatever you wanted to do here
- cd /usr/src/linux
- make menuconfig (or xconfig or whichever you prefer)
- make-kpkg kernel-image
this would create kernel-image-2.2.17-???.deb in /usr/src

Then just dpkg -i the package.

Hope this helps.

Aq.

On 22 Jun 2001 10:36:52 -0500, Ken Januski wrote:
 Hi,
 
 6 months ago I bought the binaries for debian linux 2.2.17. It works
 fine but I want to compile the kernel to add support for sound which
 doesn't seem to be there. The binaries didn't come with the source so
 I've downloaded that.
 
 My question now is: what is the safest method to compile the kernel from
 source code? Specifically I wonder if I have to do it differently in
 debian than in linux in general.
 
 I'm sure this is a very basic question so thanks for your patience.
 
 ken
 
 
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Re: UDMA66 doesn't work

2001-06-17 Thread Aquila
You might want to enable the kernel options

CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI
CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI
CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA

Then have a look at your motherboard manual to figure out which specific
IDE controller chipset you have, and enable special support for that.
There is support for most chipsets, and it usually auto detects UDMA
support if you have the right chipset support compiled. Make sure you
are using an 80w IDE cable as well, you need that for UDMA(66). 

You might need the append=idebus=66 ide0=ata66 line in you lilo.conf
(assuming you use lilo and your hdd is on ide0) if it doesn't auto
detect.

Hope that helps.

Aq.

On 17 Jun 2001 12:35:48 +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
 Hi,
 I have a UDMA66 HDD and Board.
 
 I have enabled the options for using UDMA in the Kernel conf.
 Now the Kernel shows me that:
 
 hda: 87930864 sectors (45021 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=5473/255/63, UDMA(33)
  
 Why UDMA(33) what can i do to enable UDMA(66)?
 
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Re: UDMA66 doesn't work

2001-06-17 Thread Aquila
Yeh you need a special IDE cable, though if your motherboard supports
UDMA mode 4 or 5 it *should* already come with one (or more). it's got
finer cables than a normal 40w IDE cables, and usually colour coded
black, gray, blue for IDE master, slave, motherboard.

On 17 Jun 2001 17:00:57 +0200, Raffaele Sandrini wrote:
 On Sunday 17 June 2001 15:58, Aquila wrote:
 
  You might want to enable the kernel options
 
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDISK
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEPCI
  CONFIG_IDEPCI_SHARE_IRQ
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA_PCI
  CONFIG_IDEDMA_PCI_AUTO
  CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEDMA
 
  Then have a look at your motherboard manual to figure out which specific
  IDE controller chipset you have, and enable special support for that.
  There is support for most chipsets, and it usually auto detects UDMA
  support if you have the right chipset support compiled. Make sure you
  are using an 80w IDE cable as well, you need that for UDMA(66).
 
  You might need the append=idebus=66 ide0=ata66 line in you lilo.conf
  (assuming you use lilo and your hdd is on ide0) if it doesn't auto
  detect.
 
  Hope that helps.
 
  Aq.
 
 Another note:
 When i start my BIOS says: Primary IDE: No 80 consuctor cable installed.
 I guess thats it, isn't it... do i have to buy a seperate one?
 
 
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Re: loki games under woody

2001-06-12 Thread Aquila
I have glibc 2.2.3 installed and I can play the Descent 3 demo from
loki, as the tribes 2 full version, which also states that glibc 2.1 is
a requirement.

I think loki is just trying to say that glibc 2.1 is the lowest common
denominator...

On 12 Jun 2001 12:36:34 +0200, oivvio polite wrote:
 
 Descent3 from www.lokigames.com states glic 2.1 as a requirement and 
 wan't install under woody (glibc 2.2) 
 
 Has anyone found a workaround for this?
 
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