Re: Shut down or leave on?

2007-08-29 Thread Atis
On 8/29/07, Dan H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 19:01:01 +0300
> Atis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A long time ago i measured that my PC is using 0.4A on normal
> > operation and 0.6A while CD-ROM spinning (on 220V AC). So, this
> > means
> > - 0.4*220 = 88 Watts. This is approximately like regular light bulb
> > (not very economic).
> > I usually leave my PC on in winters because of some long-lasting
> > downloads, or music playing, or i simply don't want to close all the
> > open programs (not all of them saves state). However in summers it
> > makes my room quite hot, so i prefer to turn PC off.
>
> 88 watts it used to be. A modern desktop PC will consume several hundred 
> watts of power, which is as much as it takes to make a room "quite hot" -- do 
> you think you could get your room hot by leaving the lights on?
>
> It might be worthwile to measure power consumption again, with modern 
> equipment -- you'll bes surprised.

Well, it depends what you call a modern computer. Yes, i know that
they have PSUs with 350 and 400 watts, but they are usually not loaded
completely. What i had tested was my previous PC with Athlon XP 1600+
- that's not so old.

About making room hot - in summer few electric devices can really make
my room noticeably warmer. It's because of bad ventilation, and
massive walls.. usually my room is cooler than outside. And i noticed
this by using the same Athlon XP 1600+ which i measured.

I will try to make measurements for my new Athlon 64 5000+

Regards,
Atis

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Re: Shut down or leave on?

2007-08-28 Thread Atis
On 8/28/07, Richard Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Is it better to leave a system running all the time or is it better to shut
> it down over night, on weekends, holidays etc?
>
> In the past I have always shut my Debian system down over night etc for 3
> reasons:
>
> 1) I put backups on my 80GB external HD which I usually leave shut down even
> when I boot the rest of the system.  It's about the same age as my internal
> 160GB HD so I hoped to reduce the probability of it failing at the same time
> as the internal HD by starting it less often.
>
> 2) I hoped to reduce the probability of being hacked by shutting down,
> although I do have a firewall installed.
>
> 3) I thought it was a waste of electricity, and money, to have a machine
> running that wasn't being used.

If you are worried about amount of electricity that your PC uses, you
should simply measure it.

A long time ago i measured that my PC is using 0.4A on normal
operation and 0.6A while CD-ROM spinning (on 220V AC). So, this means
- 0.4*220 = 88 Watts. This is approximately like regular light bulb
(not very economic).
I usually leave my PC on in winters because of some long-lasting
downloads, or music playing, or i simply don't want to close all the
open programs (not all of them saves state). However in summers it
makes my room quite hot, so i prefer to turn PC off. Anyway i turn my
CRT off, as this is a real consumer of electricity.

> But I notice that most backup utilities are designed to backup automatically
> at the same time every day or week.  That seems to assume that the system is
> always running.

There are also tools that executes missed cron jobs during startup. If
i remember correctly there was something called anacron.

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Atis

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Re: Public key SSH with Midnight Commander

2007-08-17 Thread Atis
On 8/17/07, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have my SSH set up to use only public key authentication between my
> laptop and my remote host--no password fallback, no PAM.  So, I
> initiate a session using:
>
> $ ssh -i .ssh/id_remote remote.host.ip.address
>
> Then I am prompted for the password of the .ssh/id_remote file which
> resides on the laptop.
>
> This works well (X11 Forwarding even!), but when I've tried Midnight
> Commander or Konqueror using the fish protocol, I get errors.  In
> experimenting, it appears to me that fish only uses password
> authentication.  How can I make this work with public key only as I'm
> using?
>
> I want to keep my SSH access as secure as possible by using only public
> key authentication.

Use sshfs

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Re: Google's search term completion [WAS] Re: Google checking my system?

2007-08-17 Thread Atis
> On 17/08/07, Celejar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have noticed for a while that as I type into the IW / FF Google
> search box, a drop down list of suggestions (separate from a list of my
> previous searches) appears.  I don't get the impression that the
> browser is downloading it on the fly, so when is that being pulled in?
> Is that included in the application installation, or is it also
> something the browser is doing on its own?

This is very cool thing, they are downloaded real-time. It also
includes cool google's calculator, that knows a bunch of units, etc..
Some examples - try typing them in search bar.

2+2
15inch in cm
sqrt(13)+cos(pi)

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Re: NeroLinux

2007-06-26 Thread Atis

On 6/25/07, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Folks!

Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that moment
I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this show me
a alert box that "this program has expired", so I delete the $HOME/.nero folder,
reinstalled nero but this won't work, I couldn' imagine WHERE nerolinux store 
this
kind of information to detect the amount of time used and then show this 
message and exit, any help?


Did it required you to enter root's password? If yes, it could be
written anywhere in system. If no, you could try to install it for
another user. And check, is your /tmp/ empty after each reboot.

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Re: Setting permissions to new files?

2007-06-17 Thread Atis

On 6/18/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new file?
I mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions that my
system atributes to new files.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l newfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in

-rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


type
$ umask 002

you can put it in your .bashrc

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Re: [SOLVED] Re: Can you connect to a MySQL database on a server from a workstation?

2007-06-10 Thread Atis

Well I found the answer to this finally.  It appears that in MySQL's
config file there is a line bind-address 127.0.0.1.  Well I wanted it to
be bound to more than one address, but it doesn't appear that you can do
that. (If someone knows how, please let me know. :) ).  So I just
commented out that particular line and all is working as planned.


Well, usually you bind to 0.0.0.0 meaning all interfaces or specific
one (i.e. 192.168.0.5). 127.0.0.1 is on loopback interface, so you are
able to access it only from localhost.

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Re: Apache2 and PHP5 configuration problem

2007-06-07 Thread Atis

On 6/7/07, Bob McGowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've got both these installed on my Debian etch system.  I've enable the
'server-info' and 'server-status' URL's and based on the info in them,
the mod_php5 module and configuration are loading.

I have Apache set up so I can access it without problems, so far as HTML
files are concerned (/var/www/apache2-default/index.html and
/var/www/index.html both serve correctly).

However, when I try to use a .php file, a file download dialog pops up.
  So, I'm clearly missing something in the Apache2 configuration.

Can someone point me the right way on this?


#a2enmod php5

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Re: hotplugging ide harddrive

2007-06-04 Thread Atis

On 6/4/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 06/04/07 10:23, Atis wrote:
> On 6/4/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 06/03/07 22:19, Ms Linuz wrote:
>> > I've been googling but haven't found any clue yet.
>> > I want to hotplug my ide disk so i can put it on my computer while the
>> > computer's running.
>> > Then just automatically mount ( or at least detected for mounted
>> manually
>> > later ) like usb storage.
>> > As a former windows user, I can easlly do it on m$win by plugging
>> the drive
>> > then 'scan for harddware changes'
>> > on the system control panel.
>>
>> You can plug a raw drive directly into a running system?  I don't
>> believe you.  As Douglas says, IDE doesn't support hot-swapping.
>
> Yes, you can. Main danger is from plugging in power, but whenever you
> add a switch for power cable - no problem. It's even working under
> windows.

Do you have a URL?


Dorry, i don't, but i have done it lot of times. Some 5 years ago
there was "mobile rack" for 15$, you just install it in 5.25" mount,
and have a put your hdd in removable box. It had some simple mechanism
for mechanically terminating power, and that's all.

Also about power - i remember from my electronics studies, that
teacher told - connecting/disconnecting power while HDD is on, can
cause some fluctuations, that might be dangerous. As for data - you
can connect/disconnect them any time you like (just better don't write
anything ;)

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KMail not working under Gnome/Lenny

2007-06-04 Thread Atis

Hi,

Today i aptidude'upgraded my system, and KMail stopped working.
At first i wasn't able to send emails (it complained that can't
connect to gmail), I rebooted (today's upgrade was quite large), and
now it doesn't load at all (just hanging).

P.S. None of KDE apps shows icon in tray area, instead i see a
separate window. I believe it's because of gnome upgrade.

Any ideas how to solve this (no, i don't want to switch to KDE).

Regards,
Atis


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Re: hotplugging ide harddrive

2007-06-04 Thread Atis

On 6/4/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 06/03/07 22:19, Ms Linuz wrote:
> I've been googling but haven't found any clue yet.
> I want to hotplug my ide disk so i can put it on my computer while the
> computer's running.
> Then just automatically mount ( or at least detected for mounted manually
> later ) like usb storage.
> As a former windows user, I can easlly do it on m$win by plugging the drive
> then 'scan for harddware changes'
> on the system control panel.

You can plug a raw drive directly into a running system?  I don't
believe you.  As Douglas says, IDE doesn't support hot-swapping.


Yes, you can. Main danger is from plugging in power, but whenever you
add a switch for power cable - no problem. It's even working under
windows.

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Atis


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Re: backup script modification help

2007-06-04 Thread Atis

On 04 Jun 2007 07:15:49 -0400, Haines Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I use cron to do a periodic full backup to an external USB drive that
I've named "mirror". The script used is:

find / -print | egrep -v "^/media/mirror|^/proc" | cpio -pdmuv
/media/mirror/"$1" 2>&1 | cat -vt

Since installing Etch, this script has not worked well because it does
not like to backup the /sys directory. Actually, backing up /sys
dangerous). So I'd like to modify the script to block cpio from doing
/sys as it avoids /proc, but not sure how. Help would be appreciated.


I suppose like this

find / -print | egrep -v "^/media/mirror|^/proc|^/sys" | cpio -pdmuv
/media/mirror/"$1" 2>&1 | cat -vt

It would be good if you would understand this command a bit :)

Find locates all files and gives list of them. Egrep (or grep) does
matching on filenames (-v means inverse), and matches either of
/media/mirror, /proc or /sys at beginning of line. Then list of those
filenames is passed to cpio and it just archives them.

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Atis


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Re: [OT] Offtopics and community (was: I also am AAAAANGRY)

2007-06-01 Thread Atis

On 6/1/07, Nyizsnyik Ferenc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Atis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What i have to propose - create separate ML for offtopic discussions.



Yes, but offtopic threads evolve from on-topic ones. It would be very
annoying to see posts like this:

... this is I could do to help you, and see my offtopic opinion on
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Ok, how i imagine this working regarding Debian lists.

Include offtopic@ in to, the same way as you include [OT] in subject.
If you also answer on topic, just include both MLs.


Not to mention that when people not subscribed to the debian-user
list read an offtopic reaction without the previous context (users
will almost always forget to include it), most likely they will post
several "What are you referring to?" answers.


That's true, in organization i mentioned for sample, junk@ is actually
one of largest MLs. However, as OT posters usually take out some
phrase, nobody really cares what was initial topic. And usually there
are few quotes left within reply.



I just wanted to say that it's a good idea to have an unmoderated
"offtopic" list, but it wouldn't reduce much of this list's offtopic
messages.


If there would be official offtopic list, rules regarding OT posts in
other MLs could be more strict.

Generally separate OT list would contain anything about life, some
funny things, and so on..

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Atis


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[OT] Offtopics and community (was: I also am AAAAANGRY)

2007-06-01 Thread Atis

On 6/1/07, Peter Gruessing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I thought this was a Debian Linux mailing list?>


Yes, this is, but there is often accusation, that this is list for
users of Debian, and as such, may contain any discussions of Debian
users.

What i have to propose - create separate ML for offtopic discussions.
A little background for this:

I'm involved in European student organization, and about half year ago
a separate ML was created, named [EMAIL PROTECTED] It has no rules, and people
are encouraged to discuss there anything silly/political/religious,
without any consequences. What have become of it - it's really
strengthening community, making people to know each other better. Not
to mention, that other MLs have become much cleaner and topic-related.

Regards,
Atis


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Re: Is there a "Using Debian GNU/Linux" sticker?

2007-05-24 Thread Atis

On 5/24/07, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've recently installed Lenny on a Toshiba Portege M100, which has this
irritating sticker on it: "Designed for Microsoft Windows XP".  I'm
reluctant to remove the sticker, as lasting stickiness seems likely, but I'd
love to add a counter sticker.  Is there such a thing?


I remember, Richard Stallman usually have a roll of "GNU & Linux - the
dynamic duo" stickers, and is giving them away at
meetings/conferences.

So, just find closest meeting and go there to get one ;)

Atis


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Re: OT - Dilbert on the ethics of e-mail etiquette

2007-05-16 Thread Atis

[snip]

Proper MUAs auto-snip everything under the "-- ".

(Web gmail is *not* a proper MUA.)


If you miss it, why don't you request for it.

So far, all my feature requests have been implemented.

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Re: swap

2007-05-10 Thread Atis

On 5/10/07, ann kok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all

Can debian support swap bigger than 4G?

Thank you


I suppose that yes. You can create partition in any size, and the
memory limit is 64GB (if you need more, you need to enable some flag
in kernel).

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Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Atis

On 5/10/07, Karl E. Jorgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:26:16PM +0300, Atis wrote:
> On 5/10/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have tried twice (meaning I downloaded the file twice, and have
> >verified md5 checksums)
>
> Can you mount it trough loopback device?
> It was something like this (might be broken):
>
> # losetup ~/my.iso
> # mount /dev/loopback/0 /mnt/cdrom

A bit long-winded isn't it? I usually use:
# mount -oloop -tiso9660 /path/to/file.iso /mnt


Right, this is more simple, just didn't knew that. Also, i was a bit
wrong (bad memory). Correct would be:

#losetup /dev/loop/0 a.iso
#mount -t iso9660 /dev/loop/0 /cdrom

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Re: Business card iso

2007-05-10 Thread Atis

On 5/10/07, Joe Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have tried twice (meaning I downloaded the file twice, and have
verified md5 checksums)


Can you mount it trough loopback device?
It was something like this (might be broken):

# losetup ~/my.iso
# mount /dev/loopback/0 /mnt/cdrom

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Re: Default soundcard with alsa

2007-05-08 Thread Atis

Create a file/modify the existing one to be similar to the one I show below
with the module for your PCI card being the first (snd-card-0 index=0 lines)
then have your onboard as the second (snd-card-1 index=1 lines). Now when you
start your machine the cards should be detected and used in the proper order.

cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound

alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1
options snd-emu10k1 index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-intel-hda
options snd-intel-hda index=1
alias snd-card-2 snd-bt87x
options snd-bt87x index=2

Stephen


Sorry, but this doesn't help. I tried:

alias snd-card-0 snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-intel-hda
options snd-intel-hda index=1
alias snd-card-2 off

but after reboot, still no sound from cmi, i guess intel was playing..
"alsactl store" also didn't helped.

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Re: Is it Java or is it Iceweasel?

2007-05-07 Thread Atis

If I open a terminal session then;

dgwicks:~$ konqueror
Floating point exception
dgwicks:~$


That's not normal. Can you describe what system you have - hardware
and software (sorry, maybe you said distro somewhere before, but i'm
too lazy to follow). Can you provide output of:

aptitude search linux-image | grep ^i
cat /etc/debian_version
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
cat /proc/cpuinfo

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Re: Double Esc filename completion in Bash

2007-05-03 Thread Atis

On 5/3/07, Petr Sezemský <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



After installing Debian 4.0 my favourite ksh style filename completion
using double Escape key doesn't operate. Only TAB works. In Debian 3.1
both worked. What I have to setup to bring this feature back.


Never knew about that key. For me works. Lenny, Gnome, Konsole, XTerm
(XFree 4.x.x), TERM="xterm-color"

Regards,
Atis



Re: From "Etch" to Testing ("Lenny")

2007-05-01 Thread Atis

On 5/1/07, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Has anyone any experience yet in changing their sources.list from "etch"
(back) to "testing" (i.e. "Lenny")? If so, has it been a smooth
transition, any problems or gotchas?

I suppose, more generally, when is a good time to switch if one wants an
up-to-date system, albeit not bleeding edge and unstable? Are there any
criteria for making such a decision, or is it really just the user's own
preferences?


Switched week (or two) ago, no problems, just 500Mb downloads.

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Re: [OT] Universities, Linux, M$, USA

2007-04-27 Thread Atis

On 4/27/07, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 04/26/07 21:41, Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 04/26/07 18:40, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 11:45:46AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 04/26/07 09:44, John L Fjellstad wrote:
> Systems talk about types.
 Huh?  "Systems == types"?

 Then what are types of systems?
>>> Typos.
>> ??
>
> And you're accusing others of being humourless...

I know there's a joke in there somewhere, but I'm just too thick to
see it.  :\


TYPes Of Systems :D :D


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Re: I can't find this network cable!

2007-04-26 Thread Atis

> Please help, I have been looking everywhere online but I cannot find a
> wireless network cable, where can I locate one?

No such thing.  That's the wireless part of wireless networking:  No cables.


Maybe OP meant something like this:

http://www.data-alliance.net/servlet/the-87/Antenna-Cable-cln---RP-dsh-TNC%28m%29/Detail

Only need two of those + adapter with 2 antenna ends in the middle.
That way you can have 802.11 (which is called wireless) trough cable

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Atis
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Default soundcard with alsa

2007-04-24 Thread Atis

Hi,

I have two soundcards, but after each reboot the built-in gets
default, so after every reboot i have to run alsaconf, and select
correct soundcard.

How i can have my second card to be primary after every reboot? I
suspect alsaconf doesn't write something correctly, but i don't get
any error messages.

Currently using Lenny, but had the same problem on Etch.

Regards,
Atis

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lspci | grep udio
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6
Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
01:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ lsmod | grep snd
snd_cmipci 31456  5
gameport   14632  1 snd_cmipci
snd_pcm_oss38368  0
snd_mixer_oss  15200  2 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm68676  3 snd_cmipci,snd_pcm_oss
snd_page_alloc  9640  1 snd_pcm
snd_opl3_lib9920  1 snd_cmipci
snd_hwdep   8836  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart 8064  1 snd_cmipci
snd_seq_dummy   3844  0
snd_seq_oss28768  0
snd_seq_midi8192  0
snd_seq_midi_event  7008  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq45680  6
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer  20996  4 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq
snd_rawmidi22560  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_device  7820  6
snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd47012  18
snd_cmipci,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore   9248  2 snd


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Re: Sudo instead of SU

2007-04-17 Thread Atis

On 4/17/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I have sudo configured (I always use it in preference to su), but like
I said last time I tried to use only sudo it didn't want to work. Some
of the programs just wouldn't start, and complained that I need to be
root to use them.


maybe `sudo -H ` helps?

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Re: how to scp from one box to another with no root ssh?

2007-04-14 Thread Atis

On 4/14/07, Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

In the past, to move config or script files from one box to another on
my home network I've used scp or rsync.

However, recent discussions on the list have pointed out that root login
with ssh should not be allowed.

How then to copy files that either only root can read or only root can
place, or that need owner/permissions to be unchanged?

I have sshd setup to only allow ssh based on pre-existing keys (no
password login allowed), and it only listens on the local interface, and
I've got shorewall running and doesn't allow ssh to/from the net.


Well, the main idea behind "root login shouldn't be allowed" is, that
root is known to exist on every linux system, so bruteforcing is one
step easier (you already know username), plus if root gets
compromised, all the system gets. So, there shouldn't be simple way
how you can get root access with only one authentication.

While private key seems to be ok, you should make sure the private key
is stored on furthest machine (so, if machine with public interface is
lost, you don't loose local machine automatically)

But i'm thinking of a bit different scenario:

From destination machine you can make key based ssh setup to access

source machine as limited user. On source machine setup sudo to allow
only one command (i.e. tar with some attribute-preserving parameters)
to be executed as root. tar file could be with mask 600 (so not
readable by other users). Then trough ssh transfer that tar file, and
decompress as root.
Drawbacks? If public machine get's compromised, it get's read access
to local machine.. but you got copy of it's config's on public machine
anyway.

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Re: Linux kernel for external hard drive

2007-04-10 Thread Atis

On 4/10/07, Masatran, R. Deepak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

1. In an external hard drive which is used on multiple computers, what Linux
kernel is appropriate? I work on Pentium 4 / Sempron / Athlon 64, and
similar computers. I am currently considering "linux-image-686".


good choice for compatibility


2. Can I install "linux-image-amd64", and use the I386 Debian with it, on an
AMD64 computer?


Not so competent in this, but i think that yes, as you can use
specific kernel in 386 distro, and amd64 supports 32 bit arch as well.


3. Can I set it up so that when I install a package, the I386 version will
be installed on one partition, and the AMD64 version on another?


You can have multiple kernels on same partition, and switchable by grub.

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Re: mixing syanptic and aptitude

2007-04-04 Thread Atis

You can use both, but you will confuse aptitude in the process.
Aptitude keeps a database so that it knows which packages it pulled in
as dependencies so it can remove them when you remove a package (so long
as no other package is using them).  If you pull things in with any
other package manager, be it apt-get, synaptic, adept, gdebi or
kpackage, aptitude will not know about the dependencies that those
package managers installed and could present problems the next time you
use aptitude because it may remove things that other programs need.

To sum it up, the best advice is to use aptitude exclusively if you plan
on using it at all.


Isn't it the way around? That aptitude keeps track of packages that
are installed automatically, as dependencies, and if you uninstall
something, it checks if those dependencies can be removed? Logically
thinking, it would be that.

I use synaptics together with aptitude and haven't had any problems with that.

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Re: how to install debian if I can "only" boot from harddisk ?

2007-03-28 Thread Atis

You need to resize it, but you can do that during the installation
process (or let the installer decide). /Should/ be no problem. But, as
always, when fiddling with partitions: make sure you have a backup, just
in case.


If i would have a space for backup, i wouldn't resize, but just copy
data there, delete & create & copy back ;)
I never seen such an option in etch installer (maybe i missed it).
AFAIR there was just an option to use largest continuous free space.

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Re: how to install debian if I can "only" boot from harddisk ?

2007-03-28 Thread Atis

On 3/28/07, Ken Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks for your information, I will give it a try.
Before I do this , do you think I am safe if I want to keep my WinXP
installation along with my new debian OS ?


Then you would need to resize windows partition first.

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Re: how to install debian if I can "only" boot from harddisk ?

2007-03-28 Thread Atis

Really?  There is one particular aspect I'm concerned with:  Will it really
put Debian on its own partition or is it one of those
Linux-in-a-file-inside-a-windows-partition crazy things? I
looked a lot in the net for this information but I can't find it anywhere.


Yup, it's a normal installer, almost just-like-cd (i noticed few small
visual differences), you can delete windows partition, and set debian
instead of it. just make sure nothing breaks in middle of installation
- then you're stuck.

i did this for bunch of machines (~15) and it's much more comfortable
than CD boot, as in windows installer parameters you can already
choose some standard settings like timezone, etc (it's install kernel
parameters ;)

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Re: Reconnect to a specific TTY session?

2007-03-27 Thread Atis

Then the dropped ssh connection had not caused the ssh daemon to terminate
yet, and the screen session was still "attached"...  usually screen only
offers to reattach "detached" sessions.


Well, that's the point of screen, it doesn't terminate when parent
terminates. Plus you can detach screen that is running with -d, and
attach it back with -r

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Re: 2nd try: anybody familiar with php4-curl?

2007-03-24 Thread Atis

On 3/24/07, Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The documentation on the PHP site tells me that curl requires that PHP
be compiled with --with-curl, but phpinfo tells me it wasn't.


Do you see curl section in phpinfo? If it's enabled, you should see.
at least on php5 its so.

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Re: 4 GB Compact Flash as HD - DMA problems

2007-03-24 Thread Atis

On 3/24/07, Mirco Piccin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, mine is a Sandisk Ultra II (60x / 66x). But i sincerely don't
understand, reading link you posted, what means "-201-00 and -201-80 parts"
- no one of the codes in CF or box seem match in any way (also in format:
-xxx-xx).


Hmm, probably article is outdated or related to something else, I just
checked my extreme3, box has some codes in dashed format, but they
also don't match. I don't believe 20MB/s would be possible without
DMA.

Some other page shows that actually Ultra2 have DMA:
http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/speed-cards.html

So, you might check if your CF is original sandisk:
http://martybugs.net/articles/fakesandisk.cgi



I think it's better if i'll try with a faster memory (120x at least).
What do you think?


If you have options, you can check for compatibility actually, but as
stated above, your CF should already have DMA.

Anyway, having DMA is a good thing, as it reduces CPU overhead a lot,
and might be very important for embedded systems.

P.S. I'm just curious where do you get ATA cable for CF format? To my
knowledge, notebook ATA is not the same as CF (not sure about fullsize
ATA).

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Re: 4 GB Compact Flash as HD - DMA problems

2007-03-24 Thread Atis

Ok, in this way system start, but i'd like to understand why i have this
problem (it's hw problem? it's sw problem?...) and if it could be fixed.
I think also dma is a good "feature" especially in a system like mini-itx
that has slow processor .
Anyone can help me?


I believe not all CF cards support DMA, as it's only needed for really
fast cards (Sandisk extreme3/extreme4). What manufacturer/model/speed
does your card have?

Googling a bit gave this link

http://www.acscontrol.com/knowledgebase/article.asp?CatID=2&ID=1

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Re: web browser choices

2007-03-23 Thread Atis

framebuffer is not a device in that respect. /dev/fb* is reffering to a
floppy drive.  What links is telling you is it can't find the
framebuffer in your video card.  I don't know how to fix that issue, but
I thought I would clarify for you that it isn't the floppy that it's
looking for.


No, links is telling exactly that it cannot find /dev/fb/0 and /dev/fb0


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Re: Beep question of Icedove

2007-03-23 Thread Atis

> This is incorrect (at least for me). Gmail keeps thousands of spam
> messages in the Spam folder and doesn't send them when I use POP
> access. Of course, I still get the spam that makes it to the Inbox.
>
> Celejar



I don't pop my gmail account, so I don't know for sure, but I do think I
remember a setting on the pop forward page letting you configure exactly
what to allow you to fetch.  Thanks for confirming my thoughts Celejar.


I can confirm, that gmail filters spam and other forwarding on mail
arrival, not on access, so all the spam goes to spam box, and in no
way is accessible trough POP or filters.

Some time ago i had some issues in company mailboxes, where ~40 users
had to  mark some automatic mails as not-spam, because they couldn't
access them otherwise.

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Re: web browser choices

2007-03-23 Thread Atis

> I'm sure you can do it without recompiling, through some 'mknod' kind of
> magic. Can't help you there, though. If you need help compiling your own
> kernel, I can give you some hints.
But nowadays, with things like udev, it its perfectly possible that the
device will be created simply by loading a module, is it not?


Well, i have no clue how udev is working. i remember in some old days
i had to do some mknod with some magic numbers, but now it really
should be handled by some udev. i have it running, even restarted it,
but still no signs of /dev/fb*


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Re: web browser choices

2007-03-23 Thread Atis

On 3/20/07, Cassiano Leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]

Yeah, I really love the fact that I can run 'links2 -g' from the
console, no need for X. And it looks beautiful on my old laptop's
framebuffer!

Cassiano


I knew that a long time ago, but just now tried. It says that can't
find framebuffer device, and its true - i don't have /dev/fb0. Any
clue what kernel module i need for that? I tried loading intelfb, but
i guess just loading won't create a device for me.


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Re: skype audio problem

2007-03-22 Thread Atis

Since I could not apt-get install skype on my debian stable system. I
downloaded skype 1.3.0 debian source from skype.com and use dpkg
installed the skype. Everthing works fine the only problem is dial to
echo123 I can not record any audio to there although I can hear the
ringing tone and the audio hints for testing. I tried to skype to my
friends to test but I can not hear from him and he can not hear from
me.  Before I was using skype 1.2.0 which I installed using the same
method. The skype 1.2.0 installation worked perfectly.

Can any of you help me out please?


I could suggest you to add skype repositories to /etc/apt/sources.lst

deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free

that way you will get the latest skype by aptitude.

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Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-15 Thread Atis

[snip]

> >00 06 * * * [ `date -d tomorrow +%d` -eq '01' ] && /the/script
> >
> >for 6:00 AM on the last day of each month


[snip]

when you have multiple commands on a line with && between them, it
executes them sequentially as long as none of them fail, IOW so long
as they return 0. the [ ... ] is the 'test' command and it tests the
statement inside the brackets and returns a 0 if the statement is
true. if its false (i.e. `date -d tomorrow +%d` is '02') then it will
return a 1 and the whole statement will fail.


Damn, so this is just a cheat, as the actual command is
[ `date -d tomorrow +%d` -eq '01' ] && /the/script
and it will be executed every day..


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Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-14 Thread Atis

On 3/14/07, Tarek Soliman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Q) In the CLI, how do you rm (remove) a file that begins with a hyphen ?
>
> A) rm -- --oops
>
Wasn't there a similar horror story where a program would save a
directory as .* or *. or whatever, and then rm -R .* would expand to ..
among other things, nuking the parent folder too?


rm ".*"


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Re: A Republican!!!!!! (was Re: OT: sponge burning!)

2007-03-13 Thread Atis

>> On 03/04/07 10:51, Arnt Karlsen wrote:

[snip]

> ..the problem is not rpms, but mill wing speed and color in overcast
> weather, as in white camo against white fog or clouds.

Think of this as "enforced Darwinism"!


Right, after several generations we will have high-speed,
high-maneuverability ducks with armored protection on their skulls..
After that, they will see that we can do nothing to harm them, and
will start stealing food from our homes


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Re: OT: Linux Interview Questions

2007-03-13 Thread Atis

On 3/5/07, Deboo ^ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Can some of you post some Linux questions in general and also about
Debian? May be with short answers but that's not necessary. If I can
get a big list of questions, I'll try to get answers and the more
confident I will be.

Please also post tricky and troubleshooting questions.


How to quit vi?

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Re: 65535 outbound connections

2007-03-09 Thread Atis

On 3/9/07, Niklaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

I could be wrong in the below description or might have misunderstood
many of the concepts , please correct appropriately.

 65535 ports can allowed . So on a  machine namely C you can have max
65535 outbound connections


There can be simultaneous connections to one port. For example
apache's httpd - it listens port 80, does that mean, it can serve only
one connection? nope. Once connection is established, it's forwarded
to another thread, that have connection id, and processes it.

Don't know about outgoing connections, but i think, they also can be
simultaneous.

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Re: grml can, why can't my Debian kernel do it?

2007-03-09 Thread Atis

On 3/7/07, Thomas H. George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I complied a kernel from Debian linux-source-2.6.18.  On boot up the
system fails to find the dvdrw and cdrw drives and does not add hde and
hdf to the list of devices in /dev.  Only entries hda and hdb for the
two hard drives appear in /dev.


For me it seems, that some IDE controller is not supported.
hda/hdb/hdc/hde = controller 1, hde/hdf/hdg/hdh = controller 2.

What's your lspci and lsmod under grml? or maybe drivers are compiled
in kernel, then you would need to diff the kernel config files.

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Re: Where to put scripts

2007-03-06 Thread Atis

On 3/6/07, José Pablo Fernández <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,
we are creating lot's of little scripts on our servers, some in bash, some in
python and other languages may be picked as well. Currently we have a mess,
scripts all
over... /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /usr/local/bin, /usr/local/sbin, /root/bin
and even other weird locations (/usr/src/...) depending on who wrote the
script.
I want to standardize on one and only one location for these scripts. It'll be
versioned and it'll be backed up. Any recommendation on where to put these
scripts? Any best or common practice?
Thank you.
--
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I put any self made or non-distro software in /opt

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Atis



Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard

2007-03-02 Thread Atis

> Agreed, there are no electronics, however AFAIK USB and PS/2 are
> different protocols - so they cannot be just swapped by using an
> adapter. (PS/2 and AT could). There is a trick that USB mice's detects
> where-im-plugged-into and adjusts protocol/wiring. With PS/2->USB its
> worse, as PS/2 devices aren't generally made to adjust protocol and
> switch to USB.

But these things are advertised as enabling one to do exactly what I
want - to use a PS/2 keyboard on a system without a PS/2 port.


Well, usually it's said under with little letters, that you need
hardware that supports it. PS/2 have really simple interface - it has
CLOCK and DATA pins, however USB is more advanced and don't have
CLOCK, just two kinds of DATA, naturally CLOCK isn't in USB spec so no
PC motherboard should support anything like that. (see links)

Mhm, googling a bit showed that there are actually 2 types of those
adapters. One that is just plain re-wiring of PS2 to USB, hoping that
device will support USB, another seems to actually have electronics
inside, and actually doing conversion of signals. I would say that it
should work for you (although no guarantees ;)

Links:
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/USB_pinout.shtml
http://pinouts.ru/Inputs/PS2Mouse_pinout.shtml
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=776087&CatId=469
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1219599&CatId=469


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Re: PS/2 - USB Adaptor for keyboard

2007-03-02 Thread Atis

[snap]

> > isn't recognized by MS Windows either. Does anyone know anything about
> > these things? Do they only work with certain types of keyboards? Do I
> > need to configure anything in software? Should I suspect that mine is
> > defective?
>
> Correct; there are no electronics in the PS2->USB adapter.  A few
> years back, a PS2 adapter often was included with a USB mouse.


Agreed, there are no electronics, however AFAIK USB and PS/2 are
different protocols - so they cannot be just swapped by using an
adapter. (PS/2 and AT could). There is a trick that USB mice's detects
where-im-plugged-into and adjusts protocol/wiring. With PS/2->USB its
worse, as PS/2 devices aren't generally made to adjust protocol and
switch to USB.


I could try that, but I have a specific PS/2 keyboard that I'd like to
get working (it has foreign language characters printed on the keys in
addition to the english ones, and similar USB models that I saw are


Well, i guess you just need to buy the USB keyboard that fits for
you.. There are sticky transparent characters available for lot of
languages, and they can easilly be sticked to any keyboard (however i
agree, characters that are printed on keyboard lasts almost
infinitely)

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Re: #chsh -s /usr/bin/passwd - by misteke

2007-02-25 Thread Atis

On 2/26/07, Jarek Buczyński <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi

I changed my user root shell to /usr/src/passwd, by mistake :(

I forgot add user to command chsh

#chsh -s /usr/bin/passwd

I can't login as root :( is it possible change this without going to
physical machine and boot from LiveCD?

I know root password, and other user who have default shell /bin/bash


su -s /bin/bash

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Atis


Re: autostart applications

2007-02-22 Thread Atis

Yes, its a binary file in one of the $HOMEDIR/.gnome
directories. Unless you completely understand how to edit it... it will
possibly make you unable to login. Best just use the features already
given to you to modify it.


Maybe you have permissions wrong for some files. Like, you launched
something by root, file got owner root, and now it can't be written on
logout.

try in console

chown -R user ~

where "user" is your username

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Re: Firefox/Iceweasel's weird close/quit behaviour

2007-02-20 Thread Atis

You have to consider that Firefox's main target is Windows, not Linux.
Actually, according to the mozilla documentation, they specifically
write code that is portable, and even has guidelines on how to do it.

That being said, the program is different, only in slight ways between a
 Windows version and a Unix version.  You can press ctrl-w to close a
window (current tab).  Pressing the same key when only one window is
open will exit the program.


Well, but i see one difference - the orientation of "Restore Session"
buttons on Win/Linux is opposite.. i get crazy all the time, because
i'm switching OSes quite often.. So i guess, shortcuts should be
preserved, and they should be equal everywhere.. even if it doesn't
comply with other programs.. well - you get to used to program you use
most often, and it doesn't really matter what OS you use..

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Re: download tool with http 2.0?

2007-02-07 Thread Atis

On 2/7/07, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,

Is there a download tool that supports http 2.0 protocol?

I can't find any but the search isn't very fruitful.

Hugo


What is HTTP/2.0? What website uses it?

W3C doesn't say a word about something like that, and AFAIK there is
only HTTP/1.0 and HTTP/1.1

I think, if there is such thing, webserver should be backwards
compatible and support also HTTP/1.1 or /1.0


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Re: How to switch to text mode

2007-02-06 Thread Atis

On 2/6/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 10:44:33PM +0800, myusernet wrote:
In your case, if you're using gdm:

update-rc.d -f gdm remove

this will remove all the symlinks to gdm in all the runlevels so that
gdm will not start at boot-up. If you want to put it back later:

update-rc.d gdm defaults

please see man update-rc.d for details.


I was faster :D

Btw, if you later want to start it once, you can use

#/etc/init.d/gdm start

Regards,
Atis


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Re: How to switch to text mode

2007-02-06 Thread Atis

On 2/6/07, Glenn Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> Whereas this will work (assuming you're using gdm or kdm instead of xdm
> or wdm), you'll have to do this for each runlevel.
>
> I find it easier to temporarily disable [gkxw]dm by editing
> /etc/init.d/[gkxw]dm and putting the single line "exit 0" as the first
> non-comment line in the script (or, for ease of finding later, just as
> the first line). This way you only have to edit one file rather than
> five or so.

Yes, I'd say much more elegant! :^)


I'd say - no.

to remove:
#update-rc.d -f gdm remove

to restore:
#update-rc.d gdm defaults

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Re: Sound jerking with via 82xx soundcard

2007-02-05 Thread Atis

On 2/5/07, Raffaele Morelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>
> Artsd is nothing wrong, it's just used for KDE sounds.. none of
> players tried was using it. For being sure, i just killed it before
> next tests.
>
> Just tried mplayer, surprisingly it played almost normal (lag every 5
> or so seconds :D), i set verbosity to 5, and got some output at moment
> of lag (see below).
>
> >From this i suspect it could be some kind of buffering problem. As i
> understand, it's  lagging when it cant play some larger chunk, so it's
> trying smaller and smaller..
>
> Anyone have any ideas what buffer i could check/increase?
>
> Regards,
> Atis.

Hi
I had similar problems with kde sound system, noatun, kaffeine... which
disappeared when I configured kde not to deal with sound at all.

Why don't you use alsa?

regards


Im having troubles under alsa.. therefor everything that uses it (arts
or /dev/dsp emulation) also inherits it... Anyway, it doesn't matter
much now, as i bought Audigy and 5.1 speakers.. now playing with
asoundrc...

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Atis


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Re: iceweasel not being recognized by ISP website

2007-02-04 Thread Atis

On 2/4/07, Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If you keep a company like that going by pumping new blood into it
you'll just end up seeing more companies like them, and before you know
it there will be no more standard compliant business sites anywhere on
the internet.


For me changing User Agent would feel like I'm ashamed of what I'm
using, but I'm proud of it (even lynx sometimes), so i just would try
to avoid that website.

Atis


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Re: Outlook clients and Linux Debian

2007-02-01 Thread Atis

On 2/1/07, Ottavio Caruso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

--- Hervé Piedvache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My Outlook users would like to share their calendars ... in fact
>
> What kind of solution could I find to this stuff under a Debian
> Linux
> service ?

Why not Sunbird? You fill find it at mozilla.org.
I haven't found it at packages.debian.org.
Surely it must have been renamed mooncock or snowrat, for legal
reasons.


LOL :D :D :D

I remember sunbird, and it gave me an idea...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/projects$ aptitude search sunbird
p   opensync-plugin-sunbird
  - Opensync Mozilla Calendar(Sunbird) plugin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/projects$ aptitude search opensync
v   libopensync-dev   -
p   libopensync0
  - Synchronisation framework for email/pdas/and more
p   libopensync0-dbg
  - Debug symbols for libopensync0
p   libopensync0-dev
  - Headers and static libraries for libopensync
p   opensync-plugin-evolution
  - Evolution plugin for opensync
p   opensync-plugin-file
  - Opensync file plugin
p   opensync-plugin-google-calendar
  - Opensync Google Calendar plugin
p   opensync-plugin-irmc
  - IrMC plugin for opensync
p   opensync-plugin-kdepim
  - KDE plugin for opensync
p   opensync-plugin-palm
  - Opensync Palm plugin
p   opensync-plugin-palm-dev
  - Opensync Palm plugin (Development files)
p   opensync-plugin-sunbird
  - Opensync Mozilla Calendar(Sunbird) plugin
p   opensync-plugin-syncml
  - Opensync SyncML plugin
p   opensyncutils
  - Command line utilities for libopensync
p   python-opensync
  - Python bindings to the opensync synchronisation engine
v   python2.4-opensync-

Seems that OpenSync is capable of multi-system syncing.. including
GMail, Sunbird and so on.. Maybe somehow also outlook.. you have to
search.


Regards,
Atis



Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-31 Thread Atis

On 1/29/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:29:57PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote:
>
> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.1) Gecko/20061205 
Iceweasel/2.0.0.1 (Debian-2.0.0.1+dfsg-2)
>
> Wow, that's a bigg'un. The User agent string has only had one thing
> changed.
>
> s/Iceweasel/Firefox/
>
My mistake.  I took it that the string went from only "Firefox/2.0.0.1"
to "Iceweasel/2.0.0.1".


Btw, Swiftfox (another ff clone) identifies as Firefox/2.0.0.1
(Swiftfox). I wonder, is usage Firefox in User-Agent also covered by
trademark? Could Iceweasel do the same (i haven't had any problems due
to user-agent string yet)

Im using Swiftfox now instead of Iceweasel, as i can't get Restore
session working.

I had previously Firefox 2.0.0 installed on my Debian, but when
Iceweasel came out, i decided to drop FF, as Debian offers careless
updates. I wiped out everything that had firefox in it's filename,
re-installed Iceweasel, but Restore still wasn't working. So, i just
added deb sources for Swiftfox, and use it.

Maybe somebody knows what's wrong with Restore Session feature? On
another clean etch machine it's working fine in Iceweasel.

Regards,
Atis

P.S. Firefox spellchecker dictionary didn't had word Iceweasel in it,
but had of course Firefox :p


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Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-26 Thread Atis

On 1/27/07, Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Piotr Dziubinski wrote:
> After updating Firefox in Debian I realized that Firefox is no longer
> present in my operating system!
> Instead of it, I have this trashy and shity Iceweasle.

Iceweasel /is/ Firefox.


I remember reading in http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/ that:

While the source code from the Mozilla project is free software, the
binaries that they release include additional non-free software. Also,
they distribute non-free software as plug-ins.

So, Iceweasel is almost the same..

There's also a Swiftfox - http://getswiftfox.com/, if Iceweasel
doesn't match somehow, you can easilly add that to Debian.

Atis


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Re: Sound jerking with via 82xx soundcard

2007-01-24 Thread Atis

On 1/25/07, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 06:35:10PM +0200, Atis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> A little update to the sound jerking problem.
>
> If i unload most of applications, leave almost plain KDE, i can hear
> KDE startup sound almost normally, just few flickers...
>
> however no chances of running any kind of media player.. here's an
> example.. i freed up memory, and launched noatun playing (jerking)
> mp3, and looked for `ps aux` and `top` in console (see end). no signs
> of high load problems.
>
> anyone can give some references, where to start debugging?

what happens when you run noatun from a terminal? I don't use it so
don't know that kind of output it produces... might help.

also, try using an output intensive program like mplayer or maybe xine
from a command line and see what kind of output you get...might point
you in the right direction.

i see you are using artsd which I think is the kde sound daemon, try
killing that to get a direct alsa connection without anything else
possibly interfering...


Artsd is nothing wrong, it's just used for KDE sounds.. none of
players tried was using it. For being sure, i just killed it before
next tests.

Just tried mplayer, surprisingly it played almost normal (lag every 5
or so seconds :D), i set verbosity to 5, and got some output at moment
of lag (see below).


From this i suspect it could be some kind of buffering problem. As i

understand, it's  lagging when it cant play some larger chunk, so it's
trying smaller and smaller..

Anyone have any ideas what buffer i could check/increase?

Regards,
Atis.



*** Normal mplayer output:
decaudio: decoding 1536 bytes, max: 67584 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: declen=4096 out=4096 (max 57344)
A:   8.0 (07.9) of 316.0 (05:16.0)  1.8%
decaudio: minlen=4096 maxlen=57344 declen=4096 (max=70144)
decaudio: decoding 1024 bytes, max: 67072 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: declen=4096 out=4096 (max 57344)
A:   8.0 (07.9) of 316.0 (05:16.0)  1.8%
decaudio: minlen=4096 maxlen=57344 declen=4096 (max=70144)
decaudio: decoding 512 bytes, max: 66560 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: declen=4096 out=4096 (max 57344)
A:   8.0 (08.0) of 316.0 (05:16.0)  1.8%
decaudio: minlen=4096 maxlen=57344 declen=4096 (max=70144)
decaudio: declen=4096 out=4096 (max 57344)
A:   8.0 (08.0) of 316.0 (05:16.0)  1.8%
decaudio: minlen=4096 maxlen=57344 declen=4096 (max=70144)
decaudio: decoding 4096 bytes, max: 70144 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: declen=4096 out=4096 (max 57344)
A:   8.1 (08.0) of 316.0 (05:16.0)  1.8%


*** mplayer Lag:
decaudio: minlen=12288 maxlen=57344 declen=12288 (max=70144)
decaudio: decoding 11776 bytes, max: 69632 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 7168 bytes, max: 65024 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 2560 bytes, max: 60416 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: declen=12288 out=12288 (max 57344)
A:   8.4 (08.3) of 316.0 (05:16.0)  1.7%
decaudio: minlen=45056 maxlen=57344 declen=45056 (max=70144)
decaudio: decoding 43008 bytes, max: 68096 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 38400 bytes, max: 63488 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 33792 bytes, max: 58880 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 29184 bytes, max: 54272 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 24576 bytes, max: 49664 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 19968 bytes, max: 45056 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 15360 bytes, max: 40448 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 10752 bytes, max: 35840 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 6144 bytes, max: 31232 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: decoding 1536 bytes, max: 26624 (4608)
FRAMESIZE: 27648000, layer: 3, bitrate: 192, mult: 144000
decaudio: declen=45056 out=45056 (max 57344)
A:   8.4 (08.3) of 316.0 (05:16.0)  1.7%


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Re: Sound jerking with via 82xx soundcard

2007-01-24 Thread Atis

Hi,

A little update to the sound jerking problem.

If i unload most of applications, leave almost plain KDE, i can hear
KDE startup sound almost normally, just few flickers...

however no chances of running any kind of media player.. here's an
example.. i freed up memory, and launched noatun playing (jerking)
mp3, and looked for `ps aux` and `top` in console (see end). no signs
of high load problems.

anyone can give some references, where to start debugging?

Regards,
Atis.


`top` header:
Tasks:  83 total,   3 running,  80 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
top - 18:27:39 up 16 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.30, 0.50, 0.36
Tasks:  83 total,   1 running,  82 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.7%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.3%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:257080k total,   193732k used,63348k free, 8088k buffers
Swap:  1951856k total,0k used,  1951856k free,   104156k cached

`ps aux` output:
USER   PID %CPU %MEMVSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
root 1  0.0  0.2   1940   648 ?Ss   18:11   0:00 init [2]
root 2  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?SN   18:11   0:00 [ksoftirqd/0]
root 3  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [events/0]
root 4  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [khelper]
root 5  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [kthread]
root 8  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [kblockd/0]
root 9  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [kacpid]
root81  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [kseriod]
root   121  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S18:11   0:00 [pdflush]
root   122  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S18:11   0:00 [pdflush]
root   123  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [kswapd0]
root   124  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [aio/0]
root   568  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [khubd]
root   574  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [ata/0]
root   578  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [ata_aux]
root   683  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [scsi_eh_0]
root   686  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [scsi_eh_1]
root   915  0.0  0.0  0 0 ?S<   18:11   0:00 [kjournald]
root  1095  0.0  0.4   2732  1164 ?S wrote:

Hello,

I just installed clean etch, and first thing to notice is that any
sound is jerking.

After noticing in kde, i tried amarok (with alsa and oss), moc,
mpg123, everything is the same.

At the same time, volume control work immediately, without any delay.

System:
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+
256Mb RAM
2Gb swap
Sound card: VIA 82xx
Linux version 2.6.18-3-486 (Debian 2.6.18-7) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-20)) #1 Mon Dec 4
15:59:52 UTC 2006

Best regards,
Atis

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Re: VMware Tools Installation problem

2007-01-24 Thread Atis

Hi,

At first, this is Debian mailinglist, you should look for help in
Fedora or VMware support.

What i could suggest is that you shouldn't run neither .exe nor .msi
he your guest OS is Linux based, instead look for readme and some .sh

Regards
atis

On 1/24/07, Arfan A Mir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi debian,





Could you please help me out I'm a new user of VMWare?



VMware Workstation 5.5.3 Host OS WinXP SP2. Toshiba Laptop P4, ATI Radeon
9000 Graphics Card. RAM for VMware allocated 512 MB. DVD-RW/CDROM-RW Combo.



I install and update Fedora Core6 in VMware Workstation5.5.3 gest OS WinXP
successfully. I could not see any virtual CD or DVD ROM Drive in my Window
XP explorer. But a DVD drive which works fine in XP and VMware workstation.



When I click Install VMware Tools from Menue Bar in VMware Workstation it
does not start installation automatically. Then I click Computer Icon placed
on my desktop in VMware workstation and click on CDROM Icon. It open Folder
root/media/VMware Tools

Where I can see setup.exe and other files. When I click on setup.exe or
VMware Tools.msi I got this message.



Couldn't display "/media/VMware Tools/setup.exe".



I tried to run From my WInXP start-> Run-> G:/setup/setup.exe

I got messeage "Please insert disk into drive G: Where G is DVD drive
letter.



Here I uncompresserd VMware Tools ISO image file in WinXP location is
"C:\Program Files\VMware\VMware Workstation\VMwareTools\setup.exe"



When I run Setup.exe from here it started and then I got this message



" The VMware Tools should only be installed inside a virtula machine."



Thanks



MIr






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Sound jerking with via 82xx soundcard

2007-01-23 Thread Atis

Hello,

I just installed clean etch, and first thing to notice is that any
sound is jerking.

After noticing in kde, i tried amarok (with alsa and oss), moc,
mpg123, everything is the same.

At the same time, volume control work immediately, without any delay.

System:
AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1600+
256Mb RAM
2Gb swap
Sound card: VIA 82xx
Linux version 2.6.18-3-486 (Debian 2.6.18-7) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
version 4.1.2 20061115 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-20)) #1 Mon Dec 4
15:59:52 UTC 2006

Best regards,
Atis

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