Re: booting with kernel 2.6: server hangs
Philipp Pfeiffer Ass DM a écrit : Hello, I installed current Debian Sarge using net-install onto the following server: IBM 8672-83X (Pentium III, 1 GHz) 512 MB RAM Adaptec 29160LP scsi adapter 18,2 gb scsi hdd If I use kernel 2.4 (2.4.27-2-386) the server boots correctly. But if I use kernel 2.6 (2.6.8-2-686 or 2.6.8-2-386) the system hangs after the following message Using anticipatory io scheduler. SuSE Linux 9.1 works with kernel 2.6. But of course I want to use Debian. Have you tried some newer 2.6 kernels ? Debian's 2.6.8 is crap for me (It's quite unfortunate that it was shipped in this state) and starting from 2.6.11 it gets vastly better. 2.6.11 kernels are available for sid, so you can easily get one for Sarge (it will work out of the box wrt sid/sarge differences). Does anybody have an idea how to solve this problem? Maybe it's a compatibility problem with the scsi controller? Unfortunately the syslog is not written if I boot with kernel 2.6. So I cannot post the syslog. Enclosed you will find the syslog, which I get booting with kernel 2.4. Thank you for any ideas. Philipp [...] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X won't start having upgraded from xsever to xorg
Tong Sun a écrit : Hi, This is a real emergency. My X won't start now, having upgraded from xsever to xorg. Is there any way I can have my X back? I saw in thread Routine upgrade of packages tracking etch has hosed gnome http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2005-09/1631.html that there is way to restore using xserver instead of xorg. I tried to follow it, but wasn't successful. I removed all xorg and xserver packages and reinstall xserver from scratch, but still I was forced to install xorg. switch your source list to sarge and apt-get update then apt-get install xserver-xfree86, configure it and switch back to sid (and dont forget to reupdate) it worked very well for me I installed the xorg, try its hardware auto-detection, again, but still my X won't start. The sypmtom is, still, the screen gets into graphic mode, with garbage on it, and the whole system just freeze. I tried Ctrl-Alt-\, Ctrl-Alt-F?, Ctrl-Alt-Del, nothing worked. Please help. It's a real emergency, and I'm desperate. Is there any way, any? thanks a lot __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot
Jon Roed a écrit : I have just compiled a new kernel (2.6.13) and i cannot get it too boot. When i select my new kernel from the boot loader i get the following error: VFS: Cannot open root device 301 or unknown block (3,1) Please append a correct root= boot option kernel panic: not syncing : VFS cannot open root device i am wondering what to add as a boot option (i am running LILO) i tried make sure you have compiled your disk controller and filesystem drivers in-kernel (not as modules) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot
Alvin Oga a écrit : On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Aurélien Campéas wrote: VFS: Cannot open root device 301 or unknown block (3,1) Please append a correct root= boot option kernel panic: not syncing : VFS cannot open root device i am wondering what to add as a boot option (i am running LILO) i tried nothing you can do at lilo/grub/... make sure you have compiled your disk controller and filesystem drivers in-kernel (not as modules) if you do make(use) ide and fs modules ( for whatever odd reason ) - you need to make a custom initrd.gz file a mkinitrd for the dummies, riddled with examples, would be neat but for a costom kernel without initrd, also don't forget to disable initrd support (in the kernel) (it sits near the RAM fs section) - you'd need to edit /linuxrc inside that initrd.gz file to load those ide and fs drivers more booting fun Linux-Boot.net/Loaders c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot
Jon Roed a écrit : I can't find a driver for my chipset in the kernel options. I have an AMD Athlon 64 2800+. The chipset according to the manual that came with the motherboard is a SiS746 Northbridge and SiS963 Southbridge. I can't find an option for either of those. Also, which IDE drivers should i make sure are installed ? even is the doc doesn't talk bout it, try the Sis driver -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Custom Kernel Won't Boot
Alvin Oga a écrit : On Wed, 14 Sep 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Aurélien Campéas wrote: a mkinitrd for the dummies, riddled with examples, would be neat but for a costom kernel without initrd, also don't forget to disable initrd support (in the kernel) (it sits near the RAM fs section) do you man disable or enable initrd support?? - at least its black-n-white, in that we supposedly know what to do with that option disable it but what about other options like, ramdisk support too which is NOT the same as initrd support true, you can keep ramdisk support if you have some use for it or do you only want to use loop devices ?? true and why use loop devices, etc cause they are useful to me ? .. gazillion examples ... - in each distro .. there typically is an initrd.gz or similarly named files somewhere on their boot media http://Linux-Boot.net/InitRD/Viewing/ to break those initrd.gz so you can peek isnide would depend on how they built it ... and sometimes its compressed and sometimes not even if its named to imply one way or the other ( *.img vs *.gz vs *.foo ) - some use minix + cramfs ... which your system would need to support for you to peek in thanks I already knew that not exactly a for the dummies (or lazy dogs) approach for making your own ... look at the contents of other distro's initrd, since we all know the distro's CAN install into most any hardware after reading/studyng their stuff, you can make your own with: http://Linux-Boot.net/InitRD - ramdisk - loop devices ramdisk is limited in size by the kernel option at kernel compile time ... dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ram0 bs=anything count=big will NOT work loopdevices can be any size I'll have a look into that some time in the future ... I've learnt not to rely on debian initrd-ed kernels because for some reason, on my personnal machine, the net driver failed to work if not loaded in-kernel. Initrd is fine for distribution kernels, but on a personnal level, it can help to know how to get rid of it. Cheers, Aurélien. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?
David E. Fox a écrit : On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200 Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ben Pearre a écrit : I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply. I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I don't know whether this is the place to air it. Please forgive if not. If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to keep this brief: [snip] Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to get the acceleration stuff working - but without success. In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is fading as few people still use it. For the moment, I'm still using XFree from sarge. Is there a compelling reason to switch to X.org? The only compelling reason would be the end of xfree support for me. Aurélien. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?
Aurélien Campéas a écrit : David E. Fox a écrit : On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200 Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to get the acceleration stuff working - but without success. In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is fading as few people still use it. http://x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/mga.4.html says it should be supported however. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?
Aurélien Campéas a écrit : Aurélien Campéas a écrit : David E. Fox a écrit : On Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:12:17 +0200 Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to By any chance is your Matrox a Millenium G450? That's what I've been using now for about four years. I had it working at one time with X.org but that was back when I was using Mandrake. I also have been trying to get the acceleration stuff working - but without success. In fact it's a quite old MGA 1064SG. Maybe the support for this is fading as few people still use it. http://x.org/X11R6.8.2/doc/mga.4.html says it should be supported however. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=320328 says it is a known bug, sorry for the noise :-| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X.Org Hits Testing: Xorg MGA driver problem?
Ben Pearre a écrit : I'm very sorry for the possibly off-topic reply. I have had one problem since my Unstable system went to Xorg, and I don't know whether this is the place to air it. Please forgive if not. If this is interesting, ask me for more info, as I've tried to keep this brief: [snip] Same here : for an old MGA (Matrox Video Card), I have a corrupted display (completely unusable). I tested xorg yesterday and had to immediately roll back to old sarge xfree, which fortunately was a painless operation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vsftpd and firewall - problems
Le mardi 28 juin 2005 à 10:04 -0400, Mariusz a écrit : HI. I have some problems with a vsftpd and firewall. I have a router from verizon where I set a rule for forwarding to the ftp port to the server. This was working fine. When I setup a firewall on the server then I lost a passive mode of the ftp. and I can't find right configuration. Ftom local network i can connect without problems but from outside I have problem. I can login, do pwd, cd .. , but I can't do ls: vsftpd.conf :[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ftp mar.dyndns.info Connected to mar.dyndns.info. 220 Welcome to blah FTP service. Name (mar.dyndns.info:kajko): 331 Please specify the password. Password: 230 Login successful. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. ftp pwd 257 /home/kajko ftp cd .. 250 Directory successfully changed. ftp pwd 257 /home ftp ls 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV. 150 Here comes the directory listing. * now it froze * This is maybe stupid, but is the ftp client not supposed to also request the passive mode ? ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: debian hosting service
Le mardi 28 juin 2005 à 09:17 -0400, Mark D. Hansen a écrit : can anyone recommend a good hosting company that provides debian sarge (either dedicated or virtual private server)? bytemark.co.uk ? ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: installing spindle in eclipse
Le dimanche 26 juin 2005 à 16:53 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit : How do you do it. How do you install a plugin (in this case spindle in eclipse. Hello Alan, what version of Eclipse do you use ? The version currently in sid seems to be still of 2.x generation. Is it that ? Then uninstall it as quickly as possible and never touch it again ... ;-) ... and go pick one fresh one on eclipse.org, for instance this http://eclipse.objectweb.org/downloads/drops/R-3.0.2-200503110845/eclipse-SDK-3.0.2-linux-gtk.zip unzip it in your *local* *personnal* folder (just forget about a system-wide installation until you are so familiar with eclipse/debian/everything else that you can do it eyes closed) hop ! you have an instantly-working eclipse 3. then, check that it does not come with its own jvm/jre (in subfolders), and if so delete it so as to allow eclipse to really benefit from your freshly-installed 1.5 jsdk. then, plugin installation will be a piece of cake, too have a good trip in eclipse-land :) As user alan I selected update manager from the eclipse help/software updates/updatemanger menu and selected the file on the computer (I have downloaded it). I got to the point where is suggested installing it in /usr/share/eclipse and then failed, with a message saying you cannot install in the site file:/usr/share/eclipse/. It is considered non updateable. Thinking this was a permissions problem on /usr/share/eclipse, I logged in as root and tried it again. Same problem. eclipse in debian has been long broken ... go figure why ... -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
[OT]Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.
Le jeudi 23 juin 2005 à 12:59 +1200, Simon Kitching a écrit : On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 18:21 +0200, Aurélien Campéas wrote: Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 16:05 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit : For the record, the static typing in Java is acknowledged as one of the worst imaginable (in short : it is mandatory but you have to go through its backdoor (read : defeat it) all the time to make working programs). It still provides more static type support than completely dynamically-typed languages like Ruby and Python. True. But how many errors in Python/Ruby programs are type errors ? And if you use generics as provided in Java 1.5+ then this problem is resolved. Only downcasting from collections is resolved with generics in 1.5, not the covariance/contravariance problem (or the general type unsafety of Java), is it ? OTOH, Working programs have been written in dynamically typed languages for ages. Yes, industrial strength programs (whetever that means). And I don't know any serious study about this topic. All we have is anecdotal developper experience/opinions. But you will be able to judge how important is static typing by yourself, again, when trying ruby/python/lisp ... This mail list isn't really the proper venue for this discussion so I'll just make one reply then shut up. All the following is of course just my opinion. Right. I just can't resist a last followup ... Ruby/Python are excellent languages where the developers on the project are experienced and talented. (Doesn't that mean that talented experienced developpers avoid Java and practice Python/Ruby whenever possible ?) Strangely, I have found that python is an excellent language where developpers are complete beginners, because of less hurdles from code syntax to execution. Especially with students (I was one not long ago and incidentely frequented some). However this isn't usually the case with any industrial scale development; the normal corporate IT department has people with a wide range of abilities, and in that situation the support of a statically typed language can be very useful (IMO). That's marketing. Was never really proven. Static typing is of course sometimes a good performance hack, when applicable (which it is not, ironically, on Java/Smalltalk oo-like languages). And anyway it is *extremely* difficult to sell non-technical management on development in Ruby/Python. Java's marketing has, however, raised its awareness level to a point where the senior suits will actually consider it. So from a purely practical point of view, if you are interested in learning tools that will be of use in a commercial environment then Java is much more useful to know than Ruby/Python. Oh, I imagine if the suits were allowed to dictate the choice of building materials for planes instead of engineers, we would fly in wood and cast iron (proven materials which most industry worker have already met in their lives) planes :) hmmm, I decided to learn the tools that could help make me a better worker, not agreable to the suits. There is an aspect of Java that is quite misunderstood : it is a good language / platform not because of some technical merits (it is really a rehash of 60's technology) but because of the division of labor it allows in the industry (and some other social or political properties) : * separation from the designers (or so-called software architects) that draw UML pictures and the coders (so-called code-monkeys that do the supposedly unintelligent translation from high-level pictures to PL level) * mass availability of Java programmers (thus supposed interchangeability of those) * good marketing pressure from Sun and other big players to make Java the new COBOL All the hype about Java being an OO-language (a very poor one indeed) and bringing encapsulation to programming in the large masks the fact that the big organizations that use Java need to encapsulate, indeed, the many mediocre (read : insufficiently trained on theoretical and practical levels, thus cheaper) programmers that make their huge dev. teams. I pretty much agree with this. Java is a middle-of-the-road compromise language. I don't think it's a very poor OO language, it's an average one. Interesting. What would you put below the Java average, then ? The only revolutionary thing about Java is the fact that it compiles to portable bytecode (well, it isn't actually the first to do that either). Smalltalk did that when Java was not even a straw in Gosling's eye. Also, see Perl and Python (all compiled to portable bytecodes). But, in a twist of fate, in Java's server niche that is almost irrelevant. And J2EE was horribly over-complicated, a fine example of design-by-committee. However under pressure from alternative nicely-designed frameworks like Spring and Hibernate, J2EE is becoming more streamlined and easier to use. J2EE 1.5 should
Re: About blackdown
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 17:21 -0400, Tong a écrit : On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:01:56 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: Obviously all this from standard debian packages if that is possible I've noticed that many of the answers for this thread suggest to avoid the blackdown. Any justification for that? Had problems when trying to make Tomcat/Jboss stuff work. It suddenly worked when I used sun sdk instead. Since I lost a lot of time because of this I can only warn you. Otherwise, blackdown java worked quite well for other purposes. The reason I'm asking is that I asked a similar question a while ago, and got a suggest to use blackdown. I was just about to give it a try. Here are the quotes from the original suggest: ,- | I am using blackdown j2re1.4, it works. | | [...] | | the blackdown j2re1.4 works perfectly fine, but it's not DFSG free software | due to licensing conditions imposed by Sun. | | There are other projects to create a real free software java platform, but | they are not finished yet. | | [...] | | The sun system is a reasonable alternative, but if I understand correctly it's | essentially the same as the blackdown system anyway, blackdown port java to | linux for Sun (and us). And it's packaged for debian... `- Thanks ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit : I have decided the time has come to learn java and use it to develop some web based applications. In particular I have a family tree project I want to conduct. I am a complete newbie as far as java is concerned. Then, allow me to question your choice of Java as a web development language platform. Are you a newbie wrt Java the language ? or Java the web dev tools ? If so (if either ...), and if this is for a pet project and not mandated by the corporate drones, why not have a look at some excellent, 100% free, alternative languages platforms ? I can cite a few : python / zope, quixote, ... ruby / ruby-on-rails ... common-lisp / uncommon-web, tbnl ... Guess what, for a good part these frameworks (and the choice of their mplementation language) have been made by people disgusted by the Java / J2EE / whatever way of doing things. They are more lightweight and pleasant to use. Do yourself a favor, don't go the Java way ;-). Aurélien. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 15:48 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit : Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit : I have decided the time has come to learn java and use it to develop some web based applications. In particular I have a family tree project I want to conduct. I am a complete newbie as far as java is concerned. Then, allow me to question your choice of Java as a web development language platform. Are you a newbie wrt Java the language ? or Java the web dev tools ? If so (if either ...), and if this is for a pet project and not mandated by the corporate drones, why not have a look at some excellent, 100% free, alternative languages platforms ? I can cite a few : python / zope, quixote, ... ruby / ruby-on-rails ... common-lisp / uncommon-web, tbnl ... or Scheme / SISCWeb Smalltalk / SeaSide ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 16:05 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit : On Wednesday 22 June 2005 14:48, Aurélien Campéas wrote: Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit : ... I am a complete newbie as far as java is concerned. Then, allow me to question your choice of Java as a web development language platform. Are you a newbie wrt Java the language ? or Java the web dev tools ? I am a newbie for both Good. I would be interested, then, in having some feedback from your progress. Do you intend to take notes along your way in this project ? (sure, debian-user is not an adequate place, but some blog can be sufficient) - but off course don't feel obliged to do that :) If so (if either ...), and if this is for a pet project and not mandated by the corporate drones, why not have a look at some excellent, 100% free, alternative languages platforms ? I can cite a few : python / zope, quixote, ... ruby / ruby-on-rails ... I did take a long close look at ruby-on-rails. See below for why I convinced myself not to take that route. Guess what, for a good part these frameworks (and the choice of their mplementation language) have been made by people disgusted by the Java / J2EE / whatever way of doing things. They are more lightweight and pleasant to use. Do yourself a favor, don't go the Java way ;-). Let me give you my reasoning for thinking about going down the java route. First. I have worked for the same system development company for the past 33 years. However the last time I programmed commercially (ie I was paid to write software) was in about 1978 (in PDP 11 assembler). I was probably still very technically involved with software development during the 1980's when I was head of a product development unit in my company and and remained responsible for the strategic technical vision for the product. In mid 1990's I started moving over to becoming a business expert (in Electricity Competion), and although I did some data and process modelling as a way of understanding requriements, I have not done any technical work since. Two. Because I do no technical work at work - although with a technology company - I play with the technology at home. It has become my hobby This goes against Java for sure ... (I'm sure everyone there understand it's only my opinion : flame disclaimer). Three: I am very much at the front end sales and bidding process. We frequently bid applications requiring web front ends to a database, the core software which we use and then enhance is almost always a java servlet/JSP implementation, which I don't properly understand the issues of. I would like to understand better the technical nuances of what is being bid - and understand what is hard and what is easy to do. Good. Then indeed, go ahead and try the Java way. But don't forget that while you will be able to discover the problems with the Java way on your own for sure, you will see more of them when you will have tried some of the branches of the alternative. But you can obviously only do one thing at a time. I have heard the arguments (specifically the ones suggesting using ruby on rails) which I only partially buy into (ruby terseness seems partially to be lack of type checking - does this really work in industrial strength application development?) but I have no frame of reference for the the other side of the argument. Can you define industrial strength application development ? It would help a lot frame an answer on this. For the record, the static typing in Java is acknowledged as one of the worst imaginable (in short : it is mandatory but you have to go through its backdoor (read : defeat it) all the time to make working programs). OTOH, Working programs have been written in dynamically typed languages for ages. Yes, industrial strength programs (whetever that means). And I don't know any serious study about this topic. All we have is anecdotal developper experience/opinions. But you will be able to judge how important is static typing by yourself, again, when trying ruby/python/lisp ... So I have two reasons to go java. One to understand what technical people at work are telling me, the other to really understand the other side of the my programming language is best arguments. But I will go the Ruby route if this doesn't work out. But I have to try Java first. There is an aspect of Java that is quite misunderstood : it is a good language / platform not because of some technical merits (it is really a rehash of 60's technology) but because of the division of labor it allows in the industry (and some other social or political properties) : * separation from the designers (or so-called software architects) that draw UML pictures and the coders (so-called code-monkeys that do the supposedly unintelligent translation from high-level pictures to PL level) * mass availability
Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 09:59 -0600, Glenn English a écrit : On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 08:01 +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: 2) What run time environment Don't try anything other than Sun JDK (especially *not* the blackdown javas). I'm using Sun's JDK 5 (or whatever they're calling it this week). At the end of the install, there's a URL to go to to see if it and the mozilla plugin work. Obviously all this from standard debian packages if that is possible Sun java isn't what Debian defines as free. I went through a Java-on-Debian HOWTO, but couldn't get it to work. Sun's install dox did. It's all there. http://serios.net/content/debian/java/with-java-package.php ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Setting up a Java development environment the debian way.
Le mercredi 22 juin 2005 à 17:20 +0100, Alan Chandler a écrit : On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:24, Adam Hardy wrote: ... I use JBoss, Tomcat, Sun JDK, Eclipse, ant (or maven) and I have no issues. I am beginning to get a picture. But one thing is still confusing me on the server end. What is the difference between JBoss and Tomcat. The JBoss web site seems to imply that JBoss incorporates Tomcat. What extra does it give, and will I need it. Basically, Tomcat is a servlet container : it handles JSP (so called Java Server Pages). JBoss brings the full J2EE stuff, javabeans. (my god !). It comes with its own Tomcat probably because of the sheer complexity of Tomcat/Jboss interaction. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: dma_intr - please help me troubleshoot this error!!
Le jeudi 16 juin 2005 10:53 +0530, Siju George a crit :
Hi all,
My Sarge installation went alright and also I installed apache, php4,
samba, postfix, mysql packages but when I reboot I get the following
error.
Toill now I have used only Ext3 file system this time I dared to use
ReiserFS is it a problem with ReiserFS???
Looks like either
1- you've got a dying or malfunctioning hard drive
2- a bad connection (cable ?) between the HD and your motherboard
check n2 first ...
WRT reiserfs it has been many years I haven't seen bug reports, but you
never know ...
the dma stuff is lower level than the file system anyway
da: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
high=0, low=9 872047,
sector=9871997
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9871997
hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
high=0, low=9 872047,
sector=9872005
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872005
hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
high=0, low=9 872047,
sector=9872013
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872013
hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
high=0, low=9 872047,
sector=9872021
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872021
hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
high=0, low=9 872047,
sector=9872029
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872029
hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
high=0, low=9 872047,
sector=9872037
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872037
hda: dma_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=9872047,
high=0, low=9 872047,
sector=9872045
end_request: I/O error, dev hda, sector 9872045
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Re: xmms skips all files
Le jeudi 16 juin 2005 07:45 -0300, Francisco Borges a crit : Hello, I've been running sarge for more than a year and now xmms decided to stop working. Sound works fine with Real player and with amarok. If I load a list of existing files into xmms it just keeps going through the list endlessly, like if the files didn't exist. Any hints?? Did you check that the output plugin matches the current available kernel sound system (like Alsa or OSS) ? Some details: ii xmms 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2 ii xmms-cdread 0.14a-11 ii xmms-dev 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2 ii xmms-fmradio 1.5-1 ii xmms-qbble 1.2-10 ii xmms-stats 0.2-2 ii xmms-status-plugin 1.0.0-2 ii alsa-base1.0.8-7 ii alsa-oss 1.0.8-1 ii alsa-utils 1.0.8-4 And if you are wondering why on earth I would like to use xmms if I already know about amarok: because amarok crashes the whole desktop environment when playing certain specific mp3s I have... -- Francisco. __o `\, _(*)/(*)_ ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze
Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 01:22 +0800, Emile Kroeger a écrit : (oops, accidental single-user reply ... damn gmail !) Looks like inkscape leaks memory too fast ... then your swap fills (your machine becomes slower), and when filled you get into an OOM (out of memory) situation, and your poor kernel tries hard to recover ... :( When inkscape is killed, gnome still has to come out of swap space by pieces ... What I've been doing is a) avoiding inkscape especially when there is sodipodi available ... I don't think the problem's with inkscape, since a) inkscape is a relatively stable and mature program (at least, I haven't found any other accounts of this kind of stuff on the 'net) a) ahem, is there really something like a stable and mature C++ program ? ok I'm only half-joking. With all its matureness, it could still have a few weak spots (it's a complex program after all) and leak memory. b) remember, you are using the debian package, this could differ slightly from other instances of inkscape you tried before c) I suspect a mem leak because of the symptoms you described (asphyxia of your system) b) I used to get the same problem with mozilla and firefox (hmm, but now that I remember, I think it mainly happened on pages with Java in them, I'm not quite sure) maybe you experienced faulty builds of those It probably *is* some kind of memory leak, but I don't think an Inkscape bug is the main cause :-P could be in the libs inkscape uses, off course, but since now inkscape is the only culprit ... (also, please, don't CC me, I'm reading this list) ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
RE: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze
Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 08:08 -0500, Patrick Kirchner a écrit : -Original Message- From: Aurélien Campéas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:53 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 01:22 +0800, Emile Kroeger a écrit : (oops, accidental single-user reply ... damn gmail !) Looks like inkscape leaks memory too fast ... then your (your machine becomes slower), and when filled you get memory) situation, and your poor kernel tries hard to When inkscape is killed, gnome still has to come out of by pieces ... What I've been doing is a) avoiding inkscape especially when there is sodipodi available ... Just my $0.02 here, Inkscape causes my machine to lockup as well. I just assumed it was somoe sort of problem my computer hardware at first but it only happens in Inkscape. What usage pattern for people that experience the lockups ? I launched inkscape just to see. It went from 77 to ~ 350 Mb ram consumption, the time to open and browse the content-rich tutorials. However I note that even when keeping and playing in a mostly empty workspace after I closed the tutorials, most of the mem was not released. This looks deeply wrong to me ... ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: debian package list
Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 08:01 +0200, Mart Frauenlob a écrit : Hello Simon, Simon wrote: Is there an easy place to get a list of installed packages... To make sure that i dont miss any in the new install? dpkg --get-selections should bring up all you need. ... to be piped into a dpkg --set-selections on the new host, like in ssh old-host dpkg --get-selections | dpkg --set-selections ; apt-get dselect-upgrade ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 09:27 +0530, Siju George a écrit : On 6/13/05, Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 12:58 +0530, Siju George a écrit : Hi all, I would like to implement Disk mirroring ( Raid1 ) in Debian Sarge. Is it possible to configure it while installation if I have both hard disks attached?? Could someone please tell me what is the easiest way ( steps ) to get this done??? I hope it will be easy because the Installer has an option to configure software RAID but I a not able to get doing it successfully :-( Can you give more details about what's going on ? Without much, nobody will be able to help. Thankyou so much Aurélien for responding! Note that I know next to nothing wrt RAID Debian. But you need to explain your concerns better. I have two hard disks 40 GB each! I want to have RAID 1 including the / partition and boot loader. ie if one hard disk goes down I should be able to boot from the other one. How do I configure it with the installer?? I want to have the following partitions in both the hard disk / - 500 MB - Primary swap - 2 GB - Primary /usr - 5 GB - Primary /home - 500 MB - Logical /tmp - 5 GB - Logical /var/log - 5 GB -logical /var - rest of the disk - logical Do you *really* need to split hairs like that ? Do you know the drawbacks of segmenting your hard drives into so many partitions vs. the supposed benefits ? I prefer ext3 or ReiserFS for file systems. I now prefer reiserfs over ext3. How should I go about it??? is it possible to configure these partitions in the first hard disk and finish the install and then later do the mirroring? I suspect not, but again, I didn't try even once ... or is it possible to do the mirroring also during the install??? See Alvin's answer. Check by yourself : just go ahead and try RAID from the installer ! And then tell us how it went :) ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 16:09 +0530, Siju George a écrit : I first created identical partitions in each hard disk and marked them as RAID Physical volumes. The I created the RAID devices and then specified mount points and ReiserFS :-) It worked al right and easy but when I installed the boot loader I think it got installed only on the hd0 and not on hd1!!! how do I verify this??? and how can testif the RAID is woring fine??? I hope someone familiar with RAID reads this ... (now at least you have given enough context to help your helpers help you) What is the output of, say, dmesg (after a reboot), mount, and fdisk on all your drives ? (could be a starting point to see what's happening) (plize don't send me directly your answers, I'm on the list and need not receive twice the same messages) Aurélien. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto
Le mardi 14 juin 2005 à 03:57 -0700, Alvin Oga a écrit : On Tue, 14 Jun 2005, Siju George wrote: Yes its partition 2 . what would be an appropriate location??? I just followed the BSD way where swap (b) comes immediately after / (a). What is appropriate for linux?? swap can be anywhere on the disks swap is supposedly never used ... but it is, aggressively -ie even when you still have boatloads of free ram why would you put swap in between ( / ) files you need hundreds of times per hour and /var files and /usr files ... the head has to skip over swap space -- too much moving of the heads ... - ask 100 people the same questions .. you will get 100 different replies for where to put swap and why ... ( experimental data vs i heard in the grapevine ) put your swap at the beginning of the disk a) no interleaving with proper data b) this is usually the fastest zone of disks, good for swap so I hope 500 MB is o.k??? or is it more??? :-) zero or all of the disk for user the system should be able to clean itself - log rotates in pariticular last time I did't check but what would you suggest?? but I've noticed increase upto 100 MB sometimes in a matter of two days. 100MB/day -- and you want 5GB --- that last you about days assuming there is no log rotation and compression /var/log is temporary data /var/cache or /var/apt is temporary or not .. depending on what you do with the files Could you please explain this a little more to me? nah ... Creating a lot of multiple partition, uh, so as to do like the BSD guys is a perfect way to burn yourself. Unless you know exctly your needs in advance, you probably need only three partitions : swap, system (everything but /home or /var or ... whatever moves a lot), moving data (/home , etc. ...) Do you suggets I create a seperate /opt partition??? if so how much size?? i always use /opt ... and its all the disks space that the system doesnt use nobody has to use opt /usr/local is perfectly fine I 've only used Ext3 till now because I heard data recover is difficult in all others except ext2. you should NEVER have to recover data in the first place .. - something else is wrong if you do - if you like fiddling with inodes and meta-data, that'd be fun that's good advice ... and also I understand that ReiserFS is better than XFS if the system goes down suddenly due to power failure. Don't know much about JFS :-( better is all relative to what and where's the imperical data or source code is what is say power failure problems is pretty much the same problems for all fs - its a matter of how fast can you write your metadata without corrupting the rest of the fs that was good prior to the power failing and you have say 2ms to fix it all up and clean up and exit before the disk write head goes bonkers - writing during a power failure is crazy, even if its to flush the cache Don't forget that common hard drives will lose their cache in case of power failure ; sync is not, in this case, what it says no journalled FS can help - an UPS can. c ya alvin ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Inkscape (and others) make debian freeze
Le mercredi 15 juin 2005 à 00:54 +0800, Emile Kroeger a écrit : Um, I'm not sure it's the right place to ask this, but ... Inkscape regularly makes debian freeze : It slows down, then becomes nonresponsive and then, after a *long* wait (20 minutes ?), it closes inkscape, and all's abck to normal. When it's frozen, Gnome refreshes very slowly (if at all, often it's all black), and even the terminal is slow - too slow for me to log in, it times out before asking for my password. Often, all I can do is physically reboot the machine, which is ungood. Looks like inkscape leaks memory too fast ... then your swap fills (your machine becomes slower), and when filled you get into an OOM (out of memory) situation, and your poor kernel tries hard to recover ... :( When inkscape is killed, gnome still has to come out of swap space by pieces ... My guesses. Go search for rlimit, that could help. What I've been doing is a) avoiding inkscape especially when there is sodipodi available ... and b) when i use inkscape, have a root terminal already open. If anything shows sign of slowing down, I immediatly switch to it and killall inkscape. That works, but isn't very elegant. I used to get this problem with mozilla and firefox (now that I don't use that machine for the web anymore, I don't know if it happens) - exactly the same symptoms, so the problem isn't in inkscape. I don't think I had it with any other programs. Um, I have Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 (I get mostly testing from the repository - is that a good idea ?), gnome 2.8.3 ... I googled a bit but didn't find anything too similar (but them, I'm not sure what to google for) I would be grateful for any help or information ! This is a pain in the neck :-P Emile ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: sarge: post-install sata drive cause startup failure
Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 00:58 -0400, john doe a écrit : Sorry, I triggered the send button before finishing. Here is the full story: My installation procedure is as follows: 1. Install Sarge with a single IDE drive attached to the machine; 2. after a successful installation, attached a SATA drive the machine, did cfdisk/mke2fs, added into /etc/fstab to make /dev/sda1 mount at startup. 3. restarted machine again, here is the error message (roughly): Device /dev/sda1 doesn't exist or invalid fsck failed. Please repair manually. CONTROL-D will exit from this shell and continue system startup Yet if I remove the line in /etc/fstab, and the startup will be okay and I can manually do fdisk -l /dev/sda and mount /dev/sda1 without any problem. So my suspicion is that the related ata kernel modules are not loaded when fsck tries to look into the drive. I'm also suspecting this problem wont happen if the sata drive were present at the time of installing sarge. So now how can fix this problem at the post-install stage? I'll probably looking the modprobe family of tools... look at modconf it will let you choose the sata driver, and will make your choice permanent -jd ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Scanning Front End
Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 02:29 -0400, Robert Wolfe a écrit : Hey all! Was wondering what a DECENT fron end for KDE or GNOME and sane would be? How is sane (xsane actually) not decent ? ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: can I use packages from dotdeb for Sarge???
Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 10:56 +0530, Siju George a écrit : Hi all, Please let me know if it is all right to use LAMP packages from dotdeb http://dotdeb.org/ for Sarge?? Since it is a new distribution will it work properly?? Why use those backports ? Sarge should come with everything you need (esp. with respect to LAMP) and decently recent. And no, the woody backports may not work properly on Sarge. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Disk Mirroring in Sarge howto
Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 12:58 +0530, Siju George a écrit : Hi all, I would like to implement Disk mirroring ( Raid1 ) in Debian Sarge. Is it possible to configure it while installation if I have both hard disks attached?? Could someone please tell me what is the easiest way ( steps ) to get this done??? I hope it will be easy because the Installer has an option to configure software RAID but I a not able to get doing it successfully :-( Can you give more details about what's going on ? Without much, nobody will be able to help. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Scanning Front End
Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 12:09 -0400, Robert Wolfe a écrit : On Mon, 13 Jun 2005, Aurélien Campéas wrote: Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 02:29 -0400, Robert Wolfe a écrit : Hey all! Was wondering what a DECENT fron end for KDE or GNOME and sane would be? How is sane (xsane actually) not decent ? I should have said ANY FRONT END. What does it change ? Have you tried xsane ? It's vastly better than ANY of the crapware I had the misfortune to work with under Winpain. BTW, please don't CC me, I'm on the list, thank you. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: problem while installing vmware 5.0 on debian
Le jeudi 19 mai 2005 à 18:53 -0400, Jason Wang a écrit : mmm.. it doesn't work for some reason, here is the output: [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-cache search vmware lg-issue86 - Issue 86 of the Linux Gazette. [EMAIL PROTECTED] apt-get remove lg-issue86 Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Package lg-issue86 is not installed, so not removed 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded. you said formerly : so i tried uninstall the alien version.. then tries to install with all distro version again.. sadly, it just gave me an error: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected. I infer from this that you made a .deb out of the rpm and then dpkg -i debianized-vmware.deb Is that correct ? If so, try dpkg -l | grep foo where foo is the name of the .deb you created out of the rpm you SHOULD see it there if it was properly installed Secondly, I don't see how the tarball version (.tar.gz or .tar.bz2) will complain about a previously installed .deb or .rpm. Have you tried that ? ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: problem while installing vmware 5.0 on debian
Le mercredi 18 mai 2005 à 19:05 -0400, Jason Wang a écrit : mmm.. now i have another problem.. I've tried to install with the all distro version, it wouldn't work.. but, i tried alien version (converting rpm to deb), You're asking for trouble. Why bother with the rpm package ? it installed.. but then, the vmware-config.pl doesn't work still.. so i tried uninstall the alien version.. then tries to install with all distro version again.. sadly, it just gave me an error: A previous installation of VMware software has been detected. sure now, try to apt-cache search vmware and apt-get remove `the correct entry` then proceed to install vmware from the tarball, and maybe without applying any patch before ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: project accounting application in Debian?
Le jeudi 19 mai 2005 à 11:12 +0200, Nacho a écrit : Hi, I am looking for a program (probably a frontend to a database) for store and analize data related to a little business; something like SAP/R3 but smaller and simpler. What I want is to insert into a database data such as the time an employee was working in such machine, the amount of pieces which he made during that time, the cost of each part he used to make the piece... and in this way with every procedure we make, so at last we can easily know how much time and money really costed a piece we produce, how can we improve the costs... I think this is something like data warehouse or data mining... but it's just for a familiar business of about 4 or 6 people working on it. Maybe you know something for this purpose? My idea is to just use a database such as PostgreSQL and develop several perl scripts to make what I want... but well, I just wondered if there is something already available like this, so I don't spend too much time on it. Thanks for your help: Nacho Have you looked at Compiere ? -- No book comes out of a vacuum (G. Buehler) http://www.lascartasdelavida.com Excellent day to have a rotten day. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: problem while installing vmware 5.0 on debian
Le mardi 17 mai 2005 à 18:57 -0400, Jason Wang a écrit : hi, i'm trying to install vmware 5.0 on debian sarge.. and i can't get it to work.. i first downloaded the vmware from the offical site (the tar package), and started to install.. the install went fine, then i patched vmware-any-any-update90.. then i ran vmware-config.pl, that's when problem poped up, when it tries to compile my kernal-headers, it gave me this error: Your kernel was built with gcc version 3.3.5, while you are trying to use /usr/bin/gcc version 3.3.6. This configuration is not recommended and VMware Workstation may crash if you'll continue. Please try to use exactly same compiler as one used for building your kernel. Do you want to go with compiler /usr/bin/gcc version 3.3.6 anyway? [no] y i answered y, and then in the end, it gave me this error: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.10/include] Strange, I have this one : [/lib/modules/2.6.11-1-686-smp/build/include] (it matches a kernel from sid) you are running your privately compiled kernel ? have you tried with what's readily available from Debian ? Aurélien. Extreme fear can neither fight nor fly. -- William Shakespeare, The Rape of Lucrece ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: i845
Le lundi 09 mai 2005 à 09:16 -0500, Kent West a écrit : debian wrote: Hello, I have debian installed on a new pc (P4, 512mb ram, intel onboard i845). Everything works, i installed latest kernel (2.6.8.11), i have i810 as driver in my XF86config file but the problem is that i only can use 1024x768 with a default depth of 8. If i take 16, then i go back to 640x480. Now, this card should be a problem about this because the vga card is using ram frow the computer and has no (or almost none) own memory. Anyone knows how i can solve this so that i have higher resolution with a depth of 16 ? Sounds like your BIOS is reporting too small an amount of Video RAM; look in the BIOS for a RAM memory setting and see if you can increase it. (If you have a Dell, they had a buggy BIOS on at least one system that misreported the amount of available video RAM, so even if you set it to 8 in the BIOS, it still only reported 1 to the OS.) if this is the case, just have a look there : http://www.chzsoft.com.ar/855patch.html They have been at a great feast of languages, and stolen the scraps. -- William Shakespeare, Love's Labour's Lost ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Debian Installation
Le lundi 09 mai 2005 11:10 -0700, Yelamanchi, Yamuna a crit : Hi, Hi, I downloaded the FULL CD set of 14 CDs from the Debian website for i386 processor. It's a shame there are only 14 of them. Wait until Etch, the next next stable Debian, there are more than 20 DVDs planned. I hope you can see by this metric that Debian is far superior to anything else :) I installed the OS successfully using CD 1 (out of 14). That's rather unsurprising, considering how really good it is. I hope you will let your customers know. During installation, it did not ask me to load the additional 13 CDs You probably missed the apt-setup step. If you want to register your 13 CDs as valid package source, just type apt-setup as root, and choose the CDROM method ... and prepare the CDs. I read the instructions on CD 2 on how to install it but they are not clear. I am totally clueless about what to do with the remaining 13 CDs, why I need them, how to install them etc. In fact, unless you plan to live on a broadband-less Island, unconnected to the outside world except by avian carriers (note that TCP/IP over pigeons has been successfully tested, it's only the latency that causes problems), your 13 CDs are probably useless. 99,99% of debian (except the small Netinst CD needed to bootstrap the system) can install itself straight from the Net. You see, the 13 remant CDs contain each approximatively 7,1 % of the complete Debian archive for the soon-to-be-stable Sarge release, 99% of which will be of no use for your customers. They contain various APPLICATIONS bundled as PACKAGES. But the remainging 1% may be great for you (and them). Can you please help! I am trying to evaluate Debian to recommend it to my customers. Customers of Intel Corp ? By the way, do you intend to evaluate what's Debian is worth for your customers just by discovering it yourself right now ? Is that really fair ? Every cloud engenders not a storm. -- William Shakespeare, Henry VI ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: installing X causes RAID to fail
Le mardi 03 mai 2005 à 15:11 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : I'm using sarge with kernel 2.3.6-2.386 What kernel is that ? Thank you.. Blow it out your ear. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
printing with gnumeric
Dear list, Am I the only one for which gnumeric freezes whenever I try printing (or just doing a preview) a sheet ? ... Experiences about that ? Thanks, Aurélien. Your lucky number is 3552664958674928. Watch for it everywhere. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: printing with gnumeric
Le mardi 03 mai 2005 à 14:01 +0200, Aurélien Campéas a écrit : Dear list, Am I the only one for which gnumeric freezes whenever I try printing (or just doing a preview) a sheet ? ... Experiences about that ? Thanks, Aurélien. Sorry, this is on SARGE, off course. The printer is a cups controlled thing. Printing works fine otherwise (e.g with openoffice, lyx, etc.) Don't go surfing in South Dakota for a while. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: I need help with TeX administration on Debian Sarge
Le mardi 03 mai 2005 à 11:16 -0600, Paul E Condon a écrit : I am not a TeX expert. I have books and I am searching the Web. I found a package that is supposed to do a thing that I want, namely newsletr. I want to install it on my Sarge system, which already has tetex package installed and running. But I can't figure out what to do in order to the TeX package, newsletr, into tetex the Debian way. hmmm, when there is no glowing debian way, the normal way applies ... The instructions from ctan.org on managing a one-person TeX system seem to assume a starting point in the TeX config files that differs from what was set up by aptitude. which point ? please give details I can't make out what I really need to do, and I'm almost certain that Debian tetex package eliminates the need for steps that are required for non-Debian tetex users, but what steps? Where can I find help that is specific to the Debian package? Where can I just find documentation that has been edited to reflect Debian package reality? Please give pointers to the real Debian stuff. please give information on how the ctan stuff differs from the debian directory or conf file layout, most of the time, Debian is *very* conforming to this kind of stuff (yeah, how precise is this !) BTW, there is a simple series of steps to do a single user install of any .sty file : - create a ~/texmf/tex dir - put you newsletr.sty file into it - run texhash enjoy Aurélien. Your lucky number has been disconnected. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.clearswift.com **
Re: Telechargement de Sarge
Le lun 29/03/2004 à 22:37, dcabaton a écrit : Mais pourquoi réinstaller ? Ce n'est, ni FreeBSD, ni RedHat, ni MS-Windows, c'est Debian ! ahhh je suis d'accord mais j'ai beaucoup de conneries sur ma woody, elle etait devenu pas tres stable... j'ai attaque linux directement avec debian pour la philosophie et sa reputation ! aujoud'hui je voudrais partir d'une base saine pour me monter une machine propre ! Si tu upgrades de woody vers sarge et que tu accepte les fichiers de configuration fournis avec les paquets, ça fera comme un grand nettoyage... What I tell you three times is true. -- Lewis Carroll
Re: JDK
Le lun 22/03/2004 à 23:03, Emmanuel Merliot a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bonjour Je suis en Sarge et je suis a la recherche d'un paquet pour l'installation d'un JDK1.4 pour utiliser Eclipse. deb http://jopa.studentenweb.org/debian ./ celui-là a l'air de marcher... J'ai cherche avec google, il y a des sources a ajouter mais a chaque fois les fichiers ou les sources sont introuvables. Alors quelle est la solution??? L'installation a la main du binaire de chez Blackdown??? Je prefererai quand meme un .deb Merci d'avance de vos sources/solutions Christophe Bonjour, Utilise alien avec le JDK de ton choix récupéré sur le site de Sun en format rpm. Si tu mets la doc dans le même répertoire que le rpm, alien va l'inclure dans le .deb généré. La version 1.4.2 fonctionne très bien avec Eclipse 2.1.2-1. A plus. Emmanuel. Water, taken in moderation cannot hurt anybody. -- Mark Twain
Re: networking problem encountered while installing Woody
Le lun 22/03/2004 à 09:22, Renhao Zhang a écrit : Aurlien, Thank you for your prompt and insightful reply. I'll get a move on learning to compiling my own kernel. Wait a minute... ! # The first network card - this entry was created during the Debian installation # (network, broadcast and gateway are optional) auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp --- I know the following from the system console indicates that I have the DHCP client running in some form. I just don't know the meaning or cause of the behavior: --- Mar 21 21:59:22 debian dhclient-2.2.x: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5 You have a problem with dhcp here. Are you sure you want it ? It seems like the dhcp client doesn't find a dhcp server... I mean, why not pick up some private ip adress (like 192.168.0.2) and rewrite your eth0 entry in /etc/network/interfaces as : auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 broadcast 192.168.0.255 Hasn't your windows box a fixed IP already ? If so, just take the same IP... This may be simpler than trying to fix dhcp (also I don't have any experience with it so I can't help on that)... Q: How many Martians does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: One and a half. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: souris folle
Le ven 19/03/2004 à 15:47, Pierre Crescenzo a écrit : Bonjour, /dev/input/mice represente toutes les souris (trois dans mon cas sur mon laptop). Si tu veux une seule souris, il est preferable de choisir /dev/input/mouseX. Mais si tu n'as qu'une souris, je ne vois pas pourquoi il y aurait probleme... Sur cet ordinateur, une seule souris, PS/2. J'ai essayé avec /dev/input/mouse0, même problème... J'ai vu, depuis quelques semaines, d'autres personnes qui ne parviennent pas à avoir une souris au comportement correct avec les noyaux 2.6, mais je n'ai pas encore vu de diagnostic ou de solution. La solution consiste à ne conserver, sous 2.6.3, QUE la generic mouse. Si tu as les deux entrées Generic et Configured dans XF86Config-4, Xfree ... utilise les deux ... d'où un facteur d'accélération excessif, etc. Naturellement si tu fais ça, Xfree ne marchera plus sous 2.4.x... Pour jouer sans soucis avec 2.4.x et 2.6.x, je ne sais pas, j'étudie la question ce weekend... Gone With The Wind LITE(tm) -- by Margaret Mitchell A woman only likes men she can't have and the South gets trashed. Gift of the Magi LITE(tm) -- by O. Henry A husband and wife forget to register their gift preferences. The Old Man and the Sea LITE(tm) -- by Ernest Hemingway An old man goes fishing, but doesn't have much luck.
après debootstrap
Bonjour, Je viens d'installer woody (puis sarge...) depuis une Mandrake, puis debootstrap, comme indiqué dans la doc. Tout fonctionne merveilleusement bien, à l'exception de ceci : - ssh - kernel-image-2.6 ne s'installent pas correctement et crashent dpkg avec ce genre de message : Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution : kernel-image-2.6.3-1-k7 kernel-image-2.6-k7 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) backup2:/tmp# dpkg --configure -a Paramétrage de kernel-image-2.6.3-1-k7 (2.6.3-2) ... mkdir: Ne peut créer le répertoire `/root/tmp/mkinitrd.29201': Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: /root/tmp/mkinitrd.29201: Cannot create temporary directory Failed to create initrd image. Le pb. est similaire pour ssh : pourquoi vouloir faire des manips sur /root/tmp/ ? Il y a une interaction bizarre entre chroot et dpkg ?? Quelqu'un a déjà rencontré le problème ??? Merci d'avance, Aurélien. Q: What do you call 15 blondes in a circle? A: A dope ring. Q: Why do blondes put their hair in ponytails? A: To cover up the valve stem.
Re: serveur ftp
vsftpd ! Le ven 09/01/2004 à 22:00, Christian Bille a écrit : salut comme je remets tout bien une question. quelle serveur ftp pensez vous est le plus mieux ? wu-ftpd proftpd ? ou un autre que je ne connais pas ? merci billou Your aim is high and to the right.
Re: debian linux et ??dos 6.22
Regarde du côté de DOSBOX... ah, et DOS 6.22 n'est pas dans le domaine public (et puis quoi encore ?). Le ven 07/11/2003 à 23:17, Frédéric CONANGLE a écrit : cher tous , bonsoir . y'avait longtemps que je ne vous avais pas em...menés à la campagne J'étais newbies ,je pense être un 3/4 de newbies .Peu importe .Merci à vous tous . Trève de bétise quelqu'un peut-il me dire si l'on peut faire tourner réellement des programmes tournant en DOS et sachant que ces mêmes programmes DOS tourne sur un plantoz98. En clair ,linux peut-il emuler réellement DOS ??? Je crois que DOS 6.22 est dans le domaine publique NON??? C'est la deuxième question . Merci à tous ...d'avace comme d'hab ! -- Si tu veux pas être en panne... Passe chez DEBIAN... http://www.conangle.fr.st Let him choose out of my files, his projects to accomplish. -- Shakespeare, Coriolanus
cmucl + hemlock
Bonjour, J'essaye d'utiliser Hemlock, l'éditeur fourni avec cmucl, sans succès. Je n'ai pas vu de rapport de bug à ce propos. A part une question identique et restée sans réponse (en 1998 !) je ne vois rien. Symptôme : à l'invite de cmucl, taper (ed) retour : Sorry, cannot find hemlock, please install and use ilisp. J'ai aussi suivi ce conseil (pour woody, trouvé sur cliki): * Make sure CMUCL is installed and configured. I install the latest version from unstable: apt-get install -t unstable cmucl cmucl-normal Then run cmuclconfig and follow the prompts. * Install the cmucl-source package and wait for it to complete compiling: apt-get install -t unstable cmucl-source * As a user start a lisp session from a terminal in X: $ lisp * Then type (ed) to start the hemlock editor. That's it! Quelqu'un utilise de cette liste utilise cet éditeur ? Merci, Aurélien.
Re: problème modem ECI USB
Le dim 23/03/2003 à 00:30, Michel ODOU a écrit : Bonjour à tous, j'ai un modem ECI USB (Wanadoo XTense) qui me pose de curieux problèmes sous Woody. En effet, le driver du modem (usermode 0.4) est fonctionnel, 0.4 ? Commence par essayer 0.5 ou 0.6... le fait étrange étant que tant que je ne fais que surfer, tout se passe bien. Si par malheur je passe en root sur le terminal vurtuel et que, par exemple, j'installe un package avec dselect, au retour sous X, la connexion est inévitablement interrompue (wmppp m'indique ERROR). J'ai le même pb quand je me mets à télécharger de gros fichiers. Le pilote semble sensible à certains pics de charge et perd la ligne. Acheter un autre modem ou attendre le pilote en mode noyau... Quand ça coupe, il suffit de : rmmod usb-uhci startmodem pour relancer le bazard, pas besoin de débrancher le modem...
Re: Aie : Kernel Panic... sous Debian Woody
Le jeu 27/03/2003 à 08:35, Nicolas a écrit : Bonjour, Nicolas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Au bout d'un certain temps, il me met gentiment un : Kernel Panic - Interrupt Handler - not syncing. Je suis donc contraint de relancer à la sauvage ma machine, ce qui me plait pas et avoir un coup de fsck (mes partitions sont en ext2...) Qqn a une idée pour ne plus avoir ce kernel panic ?? A tout hasard: - Enlève le processeur, remets-le - Enlève la mémoire, remets-la - Enlève les cartes filles, remets-les... J'essaierai ce soir... Je sais que ma mémoire est un peu faiblarde puisque elle passe au boot parfois de 48 Mo 40. ??? En tous cas cette mémoire qui s'annonce sous des quantités différentes d'un boot à l'autre, c'est suspect... Le temps avant Kernel Panic est-il stable ? Si par temps d'avant, tu sous entend tout ce qui se passe avant, je dirais que oui c'est stable puisque la connexion internet et les autres services fonctionnent puis tout d'un coup : rideau... Il veut dire : est-ce le temps avant plantage est constant (pour chaque plantage) ? Je me rappelle seulement avoir vu une ligne juste au dessus de Kernel Panic avec des séries de chiffres et dans syslog, y a rien à ce sujet. Grand truc illisible dans le log à ce moment là... :( Un Oops du noyau sans doute. Utile de noter sur papier... La machine est-elle bien ventilée Oui a priori Pour être sûr : allumer, regarder (et écouter) tourner le ventilo du processeur. Pour finir : essaye avec un noyau compilé par tes soins. Aurélien.
Re: carte réseau 3COM 3c515 (was 3c59x)
Le mar 04/03/2003 à 23:22, yoann a écrit : mais maintenant je suis confronté à un autre problème aborder sur le forum fr.comp.os.linux.configuration qui est que le ping ne passe pas la carte réseau... Fait-nous voir tes fichiers /etc/interfaces à tout hasard (de chaque côté). Il n'y a rien (de suspect) dans /var/log/messages relativement à cette carte ? (genre NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0 timed out, ou autres) la carte est sencé etre une 10/100 et est bien détecter en 100 par mon switch mais est ce que ça pourrai venir de là parce que le fastethernet en isa, ça m'a l'air quand même un peu tendu non ? Vraiment étonnant en effet. (genre un vieille etherlink III Isa-pnp), auquel cas je comprends ta douleur :) pourquoi cette remarque ? :/ Oh, un vieux souvenir. C'est le genre de carte qui ne marche pas si t'as oublié de désélectionner PNP OS dans le BIOS. J'ai déjà perdu plusieurs jours à cause de cette ignominie. Aurélien.
Re: carte réseau 3COM 3c59x
Le dim 02/03/2003 à 22:10, yoann a écrit : ben j'ai compilé le driver dans le noyau pour voir mais il veux rien entendre, mais bon actuellement je suis obligé de jongler avec mon cable croisé pour relier soit le portable soit la machine mais demain je récupère un switch je pourrais plus facilement les investigations. je vous dirais ça dans la semain A tout hasard : ta carte 3COM, ça serait pas un modèle ISA ? (genre un vieille etherlink III Isa-pnp), auquel cas je comprends ta douleur :) Aurélien.
Re: Tuer un process intuable ?
Le jeu 06/02/2003 à 23:33, moku a écrit : Que me reste-t-il comme moyen pour mettre fin à ces PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ Command 9862 root 19 0 864 864 724 R 42.2 0.4 2:37.85 amd 198 root 16 0 1144 452 452 R 31.6 0.2 1:03.24 klogd 195 root 19 0 760 716 676 R 24.3 0.3 1:59.55 syslogd ? kill -9 9862 Tiens, d'ailleurs, si je tue Klogd : [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]# kill 198 Il ne me reste plus que amd, qui bouffe tout ce qu'il peut ! PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ Command 9862 root 19 0 864 864 724 R 97.4 0.4 3:24.59 amd t'as tué le messager, pas le fauteur de trouble... Quand tu lances amd sur un mauvais périphérique, il se lance dans une boucle infinie (un vilain bug) et provoque l'écriture de messages qui sont traités par klogs/syslogd. Normal qu'ayant tué klogd amd se retrouve tout seul à sucer la CPU.
Re: compilteur cobol
TinyCobol est très bien. Très bien pour ce que j'ai eu à en faire (ARGH !) en DUT... Mais il est activement développé et semble supporter un grosse partie de la grammaire COBOL. Semble très efficace également. Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 21:15, Antoine Patte a écrit : Lo le monde, Je suis en se moment a la recherche d'un bon compilateur pour du Cobol. Je suis tombé sur TinyCobol, mais je sais pas du tout ce que sa vaut ! Quelqu'un la déjà utilisé ou peut me proposer d'autre compilateur ? -- Toine -- Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: soucis nmap
Qu'est-ce qui ne va pas avec la liste ? Il y a un délai de plusieurs heures entre l'envoi des messages et leur réception... Je suis le seul à avoir le même problème ? Merci.
Re: soucis nmap
Je me réponds encore... Ok, il manquait 'auto lo' dans /etc/network/interfaces Mais quel idiot a pu faire une chose pareille... D'oh ! Désolé pour le dérangement. Aurélien.
Re: soucis nmap
Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 09:47, Thierry Benita a écrit : Que dit ifconfig ? Le jeu 30/01/2003 à 09:46, Jean-Michel OLTRA a écrit : L'interface lo est chargée ? Parfois l'absence d'une chose est plus difficile à repérer que sa présence... J'avais donc la réponse sous les yeux. Merci à vous. -- Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: soucis nmap
Désolé pour le dialogue de sourds... Le problème est résolu, c'était bien l'absence de auto lo dans /etc/network/interfaces Les posts que j'envoie à la ml arrivent avec environ 10 heures de retard. Ceux que j'envoie à debian-user n'ont QUE 5 heures de décalage (décalage horaire compris). Je suis le seul à avoir ce problème ? Merci pour vos réponses en tous cas. Aurélien.
Re: KDE 3.1
Le mer 29/01/2003 à 08:10, Mathieu Bornoz a écrit : deb http://wh9.tu-dresden.de/kde3/karolina ./ # KDE RC packages from Karolina En conflit avec Gnome et plein d'autres trucs. Bof. Un peu de patience. Aurélien.
soucis nmap
nmap localhost, ou bien nmap 127.0.0.1 me renvoie ça (Woody): Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA31 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) WARNING: Could not determine what interface to route packets through to 127.0.0.1, changing ping scantype to ICMP ping onlypcap_open_live: bind: No such device There are several possible reasons for this, depending on your operating system: LINUX: If you are getting Socket type not supported, try modprobe af_packet or recompile your kernel with SOCK_PACKET enabled. [coupé sur Solaris et *BSD] Vu que : lsmod me dit ça : Module Size Used byTainted: P ppp_deflate38912 0 (autoclean) bsd_comp3936 0 (autoclean) ipt_MASQUERADE 1216 1 (autoclean) iptable_nat12884 1 [ipt_MASQUERADE] ip_conntrack 12972 1 [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat] ip_tables 10528 4 [ipt_MASQUERADE iptable_nat] af_packet 11784 2 (autoclean) [coupé] Je précise, il s'agit du noyau woody 2.4.18 de base. C'est fort étonnant, c'est la seule machine dans ce genre de configuration qui m'envoie dans le choux sur un bête nmap. Quelqu'un a une idée ? Merci. -- Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2 et gtk
avec la commande switch. C'est une petite application qui te permet de selectionner le thème voulu. Merci ! Bizarrement, le choix de thème est énorme, mais c'est toujours le même thème par défaut qui est choisi. Enfin c'est toujours mieux que les anciennes couleurs marron-caca. -- Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2 et gtk
Ah, et il faut installer les thèmes qui vont bien (gtk-engine-*)... Désolé pour le bruit. -- Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnome 2 et gtk
J'ai une question très bête (sorry...). Une fois qu'on l'a installé ce gtk-theme-switch, on l'utilise comment ? Parceque honnêtement je vois pas l'exécutable associé, et la doc (/usr/share/doc/gtk-theme-switch) est légèrement vide. Merci :-) Le jeu 23/01/2003 à 17:54, Eric Laeuffer a écrit : Emmanuel Collet wrote: Ma question est donc: comment configurer (à la main) un theme gtk1 sous gnome 2 ? Moi j'utilise switch de gtk-theme-switch qui gere les themes gtk1. En tout cas ca marche. -- Eric -- Aurélien Campéas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lenteurs de l'UI (KDE ?)
Le Samedi 13 Avril 2002 12:33, Thierry Mallard a écrit : Peut-etre le disque dur mal configuré ? (options par défaut au minimum) Que donne hdparm ? dma on et 32 bits w/sync, ie comme si j'avais tapé hdparm -d1 -c3 /dev/hdX Le pb KDE se meut comme une grosse vache n'est pas un pb. d'Entrées/sorties disque. Ca j'en suis sûr à 100%. Du reste, les applications shell n'ont pas ce pb. Aurélien. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Trop de fichiers ouverts
Le Samedi 13 Avril 2002 11:25, Coletta Rémi a écrit : Bonjour la liste, Sur un serveur X du labo, une woody (mais kernel 2.2.19), on se prend depuis quelques temps, l'erreur Trop de fichiers ouverts du coup même ls ou rm plantent... Il y a qques jours j'ai vu passer : que signifie le message d'erreur suivant sur woody ? kernel: VFS: file-max limit 4096 reached Tu as ça dans tes logs ? Bref, il semblerait que cela coincide avec l'install de kde2, mais comment vérifier mes soupsons sur le soft qui limite les uptimes à 1 journée :-( lsof ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debit reseau en ligne de commande
Tu cherches ntop je crois (un top pour le réseau en ligne de commande ?). Il fait exactement ce que tu demandes : débit réseau par NIC / protocole. A+ Aurélien. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HS] mauvaise gestion mémoire sous Linux
OK pour Abort, mais les 'Segmentation fault', je les ai vus aussi.
Stéphane Pion wrote:
C'est normal qu'un Abort soit généré. Il correspond à la non gestion
d'une exception levée par l'échec de new.
new lève une exception du type bad_alloc (#include new)
Pour éviter la levée d'une exception et forcer la gestion via un if, il
faut passer nothrow en argument à new. Le code ci-dessus passe très bien
avec un new(nothrow) ou un try{new ... } catch(bad_alloc) {...}
Merci du tuyau, qui tombe à pic. Je potassai juste les exceptions hier
soir...
Aurélien.
Re: Potato et SpeedTouch : mariage difficile ?
Pour Potato je suis sur le pb. SpeedTouch en ce moment... La première étape serait à mon avis de passer en 2.4.9 par exemple. Pour ça, tu dois rajouter dans ton /etc/apt/sources.list la ligne suivante : deb http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main qui va mettre à jour les binutils, modutils et autres pppd nécessaires à une bonne coopération avec 2.4. Ca marche très bien. La suite coule de source puisque tu l'as fait pour Linux RatHead 7. Jean-Pierre Pourrez wrote: L'ADSL étant arrivé depuis peu dans mon trou perdu, j'ai acquis un adapteur SPeedTouch à connecter sur le port USB. Après visite du site de Benoit Papillault et lecture du HOW-TO pour le SpeedTouch, j'ai réussi à obtenir ma connexion Internet avec la bête avec une RedHat 7.1. La machine est destinée à servir de serveur de réseau et j'ai voulu basculer sur une distrib. plus sûre donc je me suis tourné vers la potato 2.2r3 et j'ai récupéré la dernière version du kernel soit la 2.2.19. Après compilation pour le support USB, je vois bien le SpeedTouch avec `cat /proc/bus/usb/devices`. Mais au moment de l'authentification sur Internet j'obtiens un message d'erreur. Après relecture de la doc, je suis bloqué sur les points suivantes : - il faut un pppd avec version =2.4 qui n'existe pas dans la potato - l'option du noyau CONFIG_PPP_SYNC_TTY est absente de la version 2.2.19 Quelq'un a-t-il réussi à faire marcher le SpeedTouch avec la Potato ou faut-il attendre la sortie de la Woody en version stable ? N.B. : j'aurais pu installer un kernel 2.4 mais je redoute la dépendance des paquets et la perte de IpChains. Si quelqu'un pouvait m'aider, je lui en serais infiniment reconnaissant.
Re: [HS] mauvaise gestion mémoire sous Linux
Le programme C++ suivant :
#include iostream
int main ()
{
long taille;
int * pint;
int nbloc;
coutTaille de bloc : ;
cintaille;
for (nbloc = 1; ; nbloc++) {
pint = new int[taille];
if (pint)
coutAlloc bloc n°nblocendl;
else {
coutAlloc impossible;
break;
}
}
}
...engendre invariablement le message Alloc impossible sous AIX,
qqsoit la taille de bloc, lorsque le système a épuisé les ressources
mémoire.
Sous Linux, en fonction de la taille de bloc demandée, on a un message
Abort
ou bien
Segmentation fault
mais JAMAIS Alloc impossible...
Ca m'a vraiment surpris quand je l'ai découvert...
De loin, ça ressemble à une faiblesse, parceque ça va être dur
d'implémenter une gestion d'exception sur les capacités mémoire.
Haureusement que ça ne concerne que peu d'applis...
C'est peu-être AUSSI un pb. dans la façon dont le compilateur C++ (xlC
dans le cas d'AIX, g++ pour Linux) implémente la fonction new.
Ce genre de choses ne devrait pas se produire.
Georges Mariano wrote:
[...]
c) ensuite, lors de l'acquisition des données, il se produit un
segmentation
fault (à cause d'une saturation mémoire ??)...
d) développant en ADA (gnat), la personne se plaint que si un contrôle fin
été fait lors de/juste après la _déclaration_, une exception ADA serait
levée, capturée et traitée
par l'utilisateur qui pourrait donc ainsi déterminer la suite de
l'exécution.
Le contrôle n'étant pas fait, l'utilisateur n'a pas les moyens de
reprendre le contrôle et boum plantage...
Cette vision de la gestion mémoire Linux n'est qu'une intuition de la
chose, on n'a pas
d'expert sur ce sujet ici... Personnellement, je trouve ça gros.
Est-ce un problème (un choix techno) de compilo, de linux, de ... ???
Si quelqu'un pouvait nous en dire plus, ce serait sympa...
En privé, si vraiment c'est trop hors-sujet.
A+
