Re: Installation
lee wrote: Besides that, it appears to me that people for reasons that escape me are willing to put up with whatever crap and problems their windoze throws at them while they *never* would put up with them if Linux threw them at them. They even pay a lot of money for it! Any idea why that is so? Twofold, I think: 1) Everybody knows a 'computer guy' who can fix their Windows problems (repeatedly if necessary). 2) Windows' reputation is for being prone to failure and viruses and suchlike. Linux is frequently pushed by its proselytes as some perfect blend of absolute reliability and utopian ease-of-use, which it obviously falls short of. Is it just the effect of marketing that tells everyone they could intuitively use their computer and of course it will always work perfectly fine and people believing it despite they can see every time they use their windoze or macos that what they are being told isn't true? Or maybe they can't see it because they don't know any better? I think so, yes. But I don't believe it is limited to Windows or OSX. (Is it really $250 for a windoze license? I have one I couldn't avoid getting; maybe I should sell it. If you want to make an offer, please send it directly to me and not to the list.) Windows 7 cost £80 GBP when I bought it a couple of weeks ago. -- Avi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120921121744.ga7...@amazing.avi.co
Re: PHP5 scripts not served by apache2 on Squeeze
Kristian Lampen wrote: Hello, I have a fresh install of apache2 and php on my server and I can not get php to work, php-scripts are not executed by apache, just the plain script is served to the browser. By default, in /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf the required directives to have Apache serve PHP as you would expect are commented out. You need to uncomment them and restart Apache. I think they're quite clearly commented. -- Avi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120104151625.78c135b3@amazing
Re: web server migration
steve reilly wrote: question. how would YOU do it with minimal hassle, ie. having to edit config files, databases and such. this thing has been running since etch and been a learning process along the way i doubt my idea of cloning would work, but? If they're relatively small and static, it's quite hard to get wrong :) If there's no DNS to change (as it sounds like there wont be) it's even harder. Basically, I would: * Manually install the packages on the new machine. You can use dpkg --set-selections and friends, but for just a website you're probably looking at 10 packages and here's a good chance to not also install everything you used to want on the previous machine. * Create a database on the new machine and populate it (by dumping out of the old one and importing to the new one) * Tar up the site, scp it across, untar it into the document root on the new server. * Edit your /etc/hosts file to point the domain at the new server, poke around the site and check that everything's in order. Fix stuff that isn't. * Do another dump-and-transfer of the SQL (and files if neccesary) * Switch your router to point incoming web traffic at the new machine and not the old one. If you've a DNS change to make, then you need to bear in mind that during the propagation time (which is always at least 30 minutes) visitors could hit either site (and, therefore, DB). I'd, then, point the old site at the new DB. You still may need to manage traffic writing to the db while your dumping,scping,importing and then changing config, but not normally on family sites :) Most of the migrations like this that I do are relatively simple PHP sites (wordpress, or home made), you may have complications with Postgres if that's what you've used, though. Perl hardly changes in Debian and maintains backwards compatibility, so that's fine. You will go from PHP 5.2.x to 5.3.x in Lenny - Squeeze, though. that doesn't break things quite as much as 4.x to 5.x did, but there's a couple of changes that do break things. I'm not enough of a PHP developer to know precisely what they are, though, so it's a good idea to check everything does do what you want it to before migrating it properly. -- Avi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111211154031.03a94cb4@amazing
Debugging Dovecot and Sieves
Hi all,
In short, I'm trying to use sieve to filter my mail in a dpkg-supplied
dovecot/postfix virtual mailbox setup on a lenny machine. I can't find
anything to suggest that sieve's being used (or even loaded) at all,
and I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong.
I've got this in my /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:
protocol lda {
mail_plugins = cmusieve
}
plugin {
sieve = /etc/dovecot/sieves/%u.sieve
}
And I've got /etc/dovecot/sieve.default:
require [fileinto, envelope, subaddress];
if envelope :detail to test{
fileinto test;
}
then I run
echo woo. test | mail -s Testing email+t...@address.com
And the email doesn't get filtered, it's just dropped into the inbox
(I've already created a 'test' folder in a mail client). I was under the
impression that on first use the sieve file should be compiled into
some form of non-ascii file, but I can't find trace of that, so I'm
guessing it's not being parsed at all.
On the other hand, it does get dropped into the em...@address.com
inbox, so I'm fairly satisfied that Postfix is getting its bit right,
and Dovecot is correctly interpreting the local part of the address.
I can't find anything to indicate why the sieve's not being invoked, or
even anything logging its attempts to run it - I'm concerned I might not
have the cmusieve plugin available, but I can't find a way of getting a
list of available plugins out of dovecot.
I've put the output of dovecot -a at
http://avi.co/stuff/dovecot-a
And I'm running version 1.0.15
Can anyone offer any guidance as to how I can diagnose and fix this?
Thanks!
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Re: Where Is the List of Installed Packages?
David Sastre wrote: You could also mount that PATA drive externally and chroot into it to request that (or any other) info: You can also use dpkg's --admindir option so: dpkg --admindir=/mnt/backup/var/lib/apt --get-selections packagelist.txt I'd imagine you could just pipe that into another dpkg, too: dpkg --admindir=/mnt/backup/var/lib/apt --get-selections | dpkg --set-selections -- Avi. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110108183845.69f9f...@farquad
Fail2Ban and custom rules - regex inconsistency?
Hi all, I have a log file to parse with Fail2Ban. It contains lines of the form: 2010/12/14 15:12:31 - 80.87.131.48 I've concocted a simple regexp for Fail2Ban: # fail2ban-regex '2010/12/14 15:12:31 - 80.87.131.48' ' - HOST$' Success, the following data were found: [] So I've created a /etc/fail2ban/filter.d/adminpages.conf which contains: [Definition] #_daemon = apache # Option: failregex # Notes.:Regex to match Gary's logging script. # Values: TEXT failregex = - HOST$ ignoreregex = But when I test this file against the log file: # fail2ban-regex log.txt /etc/fail2ban/filter.d/adminpages.conf Sorry, no match I've tried the regex in single quotes, double quotes and with no quotes at all, and they never match in that file. I'm assuming I've got something quite elementary wrong, but I can't work out what. I'm hoping one of you will be able to tell me what it is. Thanks! -- Avi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20101220144013.2867c...@moses
Re: Flash is open?
Camaleón wrote: Can we (we=people) make our own Flash implementation by using Adobe Flash specs? Yes. -- Avi Greenbury -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bed5591.5030...@gmail.com
Re: how to convince that debian is one the three major choices for a stable server environment?
Stephen Powell wrote: http://www.debian.org/misc/awards Note that Debian made Server distribution of the year in 2008, according to a member survey conducted by LinuxQuestions.org. It's likely worth noting that Debian's just done it again: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-news-59/2009-linuxquestions.org-members-choice-award-winners-788028/ I must say, though, that that awards page looks a little sparse and outdated. I'm not certain that that page would necessarily leave a positive impression - two awards in the last six years... -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100222165140.1190a...@jup-linux2.sgl.group
Re: No flamewar please!
James Allsopp wrote: Hi, I'm using gnome but want to remove all traces of mono from my system, I've a clean install of Squeeze. Can I, apt-get purge mono-2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime tomboy No offence, if you want to use it fine, but I'd like rid of it. Tried running with simulate and it seems to want to get rid of gnome too. As I recall, mono is part of the Gnome meta-package, so removal of gnome requires the removal of package 'gnome'. This doesn't remove any of the real packages that make up the Gnome DE, though (except those that do require Mono, of which ISTR there are non-mono alternatives). This is all based on heresay, though, I don't use Gnome and have never uninstalled Mono. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: No flamewar please!
James Allsopp wrote: Hi, I'd like to keep Gnome if possible, but some of the libs it proposes removing sound critical. Here's the output anyway. Thanks. James Hawaiian:/home/ja# apt-get purge mono-2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime tomboy Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libpcsclite1 gtk2-engines-smooth planner dnsmasq-base update-notifier-common libmtp8 gthumb python-debian libaiksaurus-1.2-data libpolkit-dbus2 libopenraw1 update-notifier gnome-volume-manager network-manager-gnome latex-xft-fonts link-grammar-dictionaries-en gdebi libgoffice-0-8 libots0 gnome-app-install libpolkit-gnome0 libgpod-common policykit-gnome gthumb-data gparted cli-common rhythmbox abiword gnome-themes-extras evolution-exchange libpcap0.8 abiword-common transmission-gtk update-manager-gnome gdebi-core hal-cups-utils libgpod4 libpsiconv6 transmission-common policykit update-manager-core abiword-plugin-grammar liblink-grammar4 arj network-manager epiphany-extensions binfmt-support libwv-1.2-3 libnm-glib-vpn0 libgdome2-0 python-sexy w3c-dtd-xhtml python-vte libaiksaurusgtk-1.2-0c2a libpolkit-grant2 libgoffice-0-8-common libgtkmathview0c2a system-config-printer ppp abiword-plugin-mathview wpasupplicant python-gtkhtml2 gedit-plugins gnumeric-common liferea gnome-themes-more python-cups libopenrawgnome1 media-player-info gnumeric libdb4.6 liferea-data libaiksaurus-1.2-0c2a libabiword-2.8 gnome-office python-cupsutils libpolkit2 libgtkhtml2-0 libgdome2-cpp-smart0c2a Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The above will not be uninstalled unless you run apt-get autoremove They were installed because the meta-package 'gnome' depended upon them. 'gnome' also depends on mono, so in removing mono you must remove gnome. Now that nothing depends on them, apt* reckons they're no longer required, but because you've not specifically told it to uninstall them it will not remove them. The following packages will be REMOVED gnome* libart2.0-cil* libgconf2.0-cil* libglade2.0-cil* libglib2.0-cil* libgmime2.4-cil* libgnome-vfs2.0-cil* libgnome2.24-cil* libgnomepanel2.24-cil* libgtk2.0-cil* libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil* libmono-addins0.2-cil* libmono-cairo2.0-cil* libmono-corlib2.0-cil* libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil* libmono-posix2.0-cil* libmono-security2.0-cil* libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil* libmono-system2.0-cil* libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil* libndesk-dbus1.0-cil* mono-2.0-gac* mono-gac* mono-runtime* tomboy* 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 25 to remove and 0 not upgraded. After this operation, 31.6MB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n Abort. These are mono libs and applications, and must be removed since they depend upon mono. GNote is a non-mono replacement for Tomboy. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Back to Debian after 10 years
Ali Milis wrote: I wouldnt bother, try Ubuntu. Ubuntu is great only if you have spare time. Or if the defaults are acceptable to you. Unless it's something other than configuration that you're getting at? Personally, I find that Debian on laptops requires more time to set up than Ubuntu does generally, but that's probably because Ubuntu's actually pretty close to where my Debian desktop installs end up. Or maybe I have a higher than average use of hardware that's not supported by dfsg software? -- Avi Greenbury -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Two computers in one: two users each with their own accounts, monitor, and keyboard?
Dotan Cohen wrote: Thanks, Boyd, that was actually ver informative. As there is no room for a second tower, I will see about modding the existing tower for two motherboards. There actually is room, only the CPU cooling tubes might be problematic Thin clients do come in very physically thin sizes - I've seen several that are about the size of a domestic router. The only manufacturer who supports Linux that I can think of at the minute is Wyse, but I know there are several more. Though this would be decidedly less fun than making X do what you want ;) -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: hostname question
www.givemefish.com wrote: *) Should I use the static IP assigned by my ISP or on the router? Or is the above correct? The router should have the IP address from your ISP, it will forward requests to your server as per your port forwarding rules. The server doesn't exist on the internet as such, it is on your internal network. Any external hosts on the internet that want to connect to it will connect to your router, which decides which host on your internal network they really want to connect to. I'd suggest a brief look at Network Address Translation, since this is what lets the router work like this. *) Can / should the local domain name (used in /etc/hosts) be different from the domain name of the website(s) that I am hosting? ie, using MyLocalDomainName rather than domainname I have registered for my website. It can, and there's no technical reason for it to be either the same or different. I'd suggest a reading of the Apache2 docs on Virtual Hosts, they're quite good: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/ Assuming, that is, you're using Apache2.x, though the configuration is much the same for 1.3, from what I can recall. If I should use the registered domain name, how do I handle hosting multiple domains on this server? Which domain name would I use? *) How does this differ from what is saved in /etc/hostname? What if these values differ? Who uses /etc/hostname? /etc/hosts is used by the OS for name resolution in the absence of DNS (though when it exits it takes precedence). As far as I'm aware, /etc/hostname is part of the same system. You should use name VirtualHosts to allow Apache to handle hosting multiple domains on the same server. The value of /etc/hostname just allows the box to intercept connections to itself without them having to go to the DNS server. *) My current /etc/hostname contains the single line: MyLocalHostName.MyLocalDomainName Is that correct? That's of the correct form. Whether the data is correct or not depends on the configuration of your network. Who runs the network (and more pertinently the DNS server)? They should have told you what your local hostname and domain are. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebite.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: virus on linux?
abdelkader belahcene wrote: Hi, I am asking if there is a virus on my machine how to detect it. ClamAV[0] is the standard linux anti-virus scanner. For rootkit [1] detection/fixing, look at chkrootkit[2] and rkhunter[3]. the command ps aux gives all running processes, all really all? or it may be a hidden process running on background. Most. Rootkits are generally hidden, and 'infection' from a rootkit provides the possibility that ps has been replaced with one designed to not show all processes. Until now, I considered that a virus doen't affect a system if you work as simple user, and can't damage system without root permission, am I right, or virus can get root privileges ?? Depending on how the system's configured, it's often possible to do damage without being root. That aside, the frequency of security patches implies that there are generally vulnerabilities in any given server setup, some of which can lead to privilege escalation. another thing on linux, the program can't run if it not executable, it must have the x permission, if we copy a file normally it looses the x permission. This is what I believe up now, am I right?? Mostly. It's quite possible to run a non-executable file through an interpreter (where the interpreter [perl, bash, php, etc.] accepts the non-executable file as an argument). [0] http://clamav.net [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rootkit [2] http://www.chkrootkit.org/ [3] http://www.rootkit.nl/ -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Squeeze Release ?
Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: 11/27/2009 12:24 PM, Brent Clark: Does anyone know if Squeeze is going be Frozen in December or know of anything for that matter. Are you a newcomer? :-) A Debian release is ready when it's ready. Not before. Not according to the last debconf: http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729 -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: willing to learn php basics
Bernard wrote: Have I got to install one or more Debian packages for PHP ? '$apt-cache search PHP' gives too many results for a choice. You want to do # apt-get install php5 php-mysql apache2 Which will also pull in the php5 apache module. By default, the web pages live under /var/www, the php config file is /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and the apache config is all under /etc/apache2/, with apache2.conf being the 'main' config file. There're several howtos on the net to talk you through it, howtoforge is a bit of a goldmine for them. If the MySQL server and databases end up to the webspace that my Internet Provider allows to me, I suppose that the PHP interpreter and/or compiler will have to be there, not on my system ? Interpreter, and yes. If you want to serve the pages to the outside world, you can do so from your PC by opening the relevant ports on your firewall. Still, I suppose that I must install something locally so as to be able to send meaningfull commands using appropriate scripts ? If you want to test locally and then upload to your ISP-provided webspace, you can do that by ftping the .php files. You'll want to know how their php/mysql environment is configured, though, and configure yours likewise. Also check database names. You can transfer database data by 'exporting' it through mysqldump, uploading the resulting file, and then 'importing' it - the dump is just a list of the SQL commands required to populate the database. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: running apt-get update locally
Albretch Mueller wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Jochen Schulz m...@well-adjusted.de wrote: From what I guess, you actually just want to: # apt-get update # apt-get -d upgrade This stores all upgradeable package files in /var/cache/apt/archives, what about the case in which you want to stash the downloaded files somewhere else? man apt implies that apt-get -d -o Dir::Cache::Archives=/path/to/dir upgrade would work. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2009)
S. Fishpaste wrote: Me neither. I didn't participate because there wasn't a web based app. It's not like there isn't any FOSS web based poll software available ... Out of interest, why? This seems to me like odd grounds on which to not participate. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: results: debian-user's favourite FLOSS (2009)
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:01:20 +0200 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Would you like me to do it? I am rather active on the Ubuntu and Kubuntu lists. I have no problem taking responsibility for those lists every year, and you keep up the good work with Debian. What do you say? magnificent! when u going to start it? I'm going to re-subscribe right now just for the poll! Go subscribe, I'll post in about ten minutes. Ah, handy! I managed to miss this on here, so I'll await its appearance on the dark side. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Allen gedankezaube...@comcast.net wrote: And YAST2 is probably the best system tool ever done. Hmm, Yast made me want to hurt small things the last (and first) time I used it. I'm increasingly wondering that this might have been a fault at my end, since a lot of people seem to like it now. Has it improved drastically over the past six or so years? web browser: Opera, Elinks, Links, Lynx, Netscape when it was around Seamonkey Opera and Netscape should have gone to non-free Opera isn't listed on the Debian.org package list, and I think I found a .deb package for it, but I don't even remember where. But it wasn't on the install CDs, and wasn't on their servers. I love Opera though, it's fast and nice. Can't stand Firefox. Opera do have a repository of .deb packages for *buntu, and I'm pretty sure they do a Debian one. You can certainly download .debs of it from their site. Every few months I decide Opera's amazing and switch back to it, then remember how badly I get along with the search-from-the-address-bar thing. I know, Seamonkey isn't Firefox though. Seamonkey is it's own thing. Firefox is a slow VERY laggy bloated browser. Seamonkey is what they probably think of when they write the brochures for their firefox crap since Seamonkey isn't slow and actually looks nice and works well. Seamonkey works way better for me, but making it work on anything isn't exactly a walk in the park since the only distro I have that actually includes it is Slackware. There was an announcement to the effect of a new Seamonkey release a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, from what I gather (through very limited research) it looks to be Thunderbird + Firefox rather than a progression of the goodness that is Seamonkey. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: deadkeys with openoffice
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 10:32:16 -0400 Tony Baldwin photodha...@gmail.com wrote: green wrote: Please reply to the list! doh...I hate this list sometimes. Why can't it function normally, like every other list on the gods' green earth? I think the common answer is because they're all wrong. -- Avi Greenbury -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: normal firefox for debian lenny 64bit?
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:13:55 +0200 Soren Orel soren.o...@gmail.com wrote: Lastly, for the real question: why are you on Lenny? Institution mandate? Narrow pipe? Fear of Testing breakage? What do you suggest? Is sid good for a Desktop environment? :O In general, the Testing (squeeze) or Unstable (sid) branch are suggested for desktop usage, unless you need the stability (in the sense of non-changing) of stable. Personally, I use Sid on my desktop workstations. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: X11 without HAL: DontZap in /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't work anymore
Dirk wrote: Geeez... the problem is that it was promoted to a requirement for running a Debian Desktop while there was no need for it in the first place with alternatives like Ubuntu or Windows(!) at hand. Another problem are the people who think they need to turn Linux into something like a Windows to appeal to people who don't even care/know enough about which OS they use. By this HAL is neglecting the best part of Linux for the sake of Linux, ready for the desktop? headlines on Slashdot. What is the 'best part of Linux' that HAL neglects? You keep coming back to this thing of being like Windows. That, in and of itself, is not a bad thing (there are at least a few things that Windows got right). It is a bad thing if other things are negatively affected by being like Windows. You've not yet explained what these negative effects are. Could you please do so without reference to Windows or Ubuntu? -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE compression options: tar, zip, or rar
Dotan Cohen wrote: KDE gives users three options to compress folders: tar, zip, and rar. What are the advantages or disadvantages of each? How do I know which one to use? tar is not compression, it's an archive (tar = Tape ARchive). You generally zip tarballs with either bzip (*.tar.bz) or gzip (*.tar.gz or *.tgz). I don't know if KDE defaults to one of these. If you're sending files to people, in general, a *nixy user will be expecting a zipped tarball, most Windows Users will be expecting a zip archive. More 'power' windows users will be expecting .rars. Zip is probably the most widely-supported, but not always installed by default on Linux distros. I've never found a [b|g]zipped tarball to be particularly lacking. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New Dell netbook,Ubuntu,Debian and factory su password.
Pete Boyd wrote: Ask your Ubuntu question here and you get a Debian answer, rather than an Ubuntu answer. The two worlds are subtly but importantly different. The answers to the same question on ubuntu-users[1] are mostly the same as here. Some people suggesting setting a password and then using `su` and others suggesting just using `sudo -i` instead. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New Dell netbook,Ubuntu,Debian and factory su password.
Luis Maceira wrote: As a Debian user since 2005 last week I bought a Dell netbook running Ubuntu (since it is Debian based),but I am unable to do administrative tasks: upgrading,become su etc. because I cannot find the su password in the docs that come with the netbook.Is there any standard password that we use in these cases,so after we can choose our own su password? Ubuntu has no root password set by default (well, it does really, but it's not enterable). The user configured on install is a member of sudoers, so if you're logged in as him you can run sudo passwd to set a usable root password and carry on suing to your heart's content. The ubuntu-users list frequently features discussion of sudo vs su. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: IRC - A beginners tutorial can be fun too :-)
Tony Baldwin wrote: (shame we don't have seamonkey in our repos. We have IceApe. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Dell Precision Workstation T7400 - 32bit
Cassiel wrote: Hi you all, has anyone of you managed to install debian on a Dell Precision Workstation T7400? It comes with the f***ing vista pre-installed and (obviously) I want to install debian... but the bios doesn't allow me to change the boot device order. What happens when you try? Dell's boot menu is trigged by pressing F12 on POST, so give that a go. I've not used that machine in particular, but I can't recall seeing a Dell that doesn't let you boot from CD. Also, in general, if it's not appropriate to write a swear word with all its letters, it is generally also not appropriate to just substitute three of them with asterisks. -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Dell Precision Workstation T7400 - 32bit
Avi Greenbury wrote: Dell's boot menu is trigged by pressing F12 on POST, so give that a go. Sorry, this should read F2, not F12. -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?
Paul E Condon wrote: You did not lose an hour. You got up an hour early because you are a slave to the reading on a clock that you know you set forward by an hour the night before. This is not the behavior of a rational being, IMHO. The only reason, IMHO, that you subscribe to such nonsense is that it has been repeated so many times that you have forgotten that it is a lie. Surely once you've enslaved yourself to the reading of the clock which you've set once, it's hardly a major step to keep enslaving yourself to it when you set it to something else? -- Avi Greenbury -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Cron and day of the week
T o n g wrote: I know we can put day of the week info as cron schedules, but how can I define: - first Monday of the month - second Monday of the month - last Monday of the month The first Monday of the month will be the only Monday within the first seven days of the month. 0 0 1-7 * 1 command would schedule command to run at midnight on any Monday that is between the first and seventh day of the month inclusive, which should always be the first Monday of that month. -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help! Grub is broken
Thorny wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:37:56 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. posted: While they have been seen in the wild, ... Please cite examples and/or documentation so I may learn. I know from your other posts that you give good advice but I am not willing to accept this statement on that basis. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus#Threats -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: security (malware) issues in Linux bases OSes
Ron Johnson wrote: I don't believe it. Show us! In the interests of satisfying my curiosity: vm-linux2:/# rm -rf / rm: cannot remove root directory `/' vm-linux2:/# -- -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] Friday the 13th
Marc Shapiro wrote: Jack Schneider wrote: We are probably the only entities in the universe who spend so much energy keeping track of the number of times our planet spins. How bazaar! Or, how bizarre. Bazaar goes with 'The Cathedral and the. Sorry to nitpick, but I could resist. What's the name of that law that states that any post pointing out someone's mistake will always include a typo of its own? Or, perhaps rather, if you could resist, why didn't you? ;) -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Use of Swap Space
Ron Johnson wrote: On 02/01/2009 10:04 AM, Mirko Scurk wrote: [snip] Could it be that 32-bit Debian can't access rest of memory? That would only be an issue if he could only see (I think) 2GB of his 4GB RAM. Really? The only system on which I've 3Gb of ram and a 32bit OS is my Windows laptop, and that reports 3.5Gb of the ~4Gb that's in there. I've no idea how to get a less-rounded number for it out of Windows. -- Avi Greenbury http://aviswebsite.co.uk ;) http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
Brian Marshall wrote: On Tue, 25 Nov 2008 15:35:58 + Avi Greenbury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kent West wrote: Whereas there are some cleaning functions you can do, for the most part, it's not something you'll need to worry about like you do in Windows. I think you might've meant ...for the most part, it's _not_ something you'll need to worry about... Well, that *is* what he said, isn't it? Yes, yes it is. But I could've sworn it wasn't when I read (and replied to) it before This is odd. I'm going to demand better quality coffee. -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg not starting fully on Thinkpad T21
Richard Möhn wrote: But now to the problem: As far as I remember, I wrote in my graphics settings, that the card has to get a fixed size of RAM instead of doing that automatically. In addition I changed the driver from savage to vesa to get rid of the fancy cursor. You don't remember how much ram it wants, do you? Or is it mostly immaterial so long as it is defined in xorg.conf? Using the vesa driver did seem to make the booting more reliable, but it also restricted me to uncomfortably low resolutions. I have just found the thinkwiki page (http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/S3_Savage_IX8) on this adaptor. Not entirely sure why I didn't before, though it doesn't seem to cover my problem, or mention how much memory it wants. -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux
Kent West wrote: Whereas there are some cleaning functions you can do, for the most part, it's not something you'll need to worry about like you do in Windows. I think you might've meant ...for the most part, it's _not_ something you'll need to worry about... -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xorg not starting fully on Thinkpad T21
Morning all. I've got quite an intermittent problem with my laptop: When I boot, sometimes it gets as far as starting GDM, and then the screen goes blank as per the usual change from a text display to a graphical one, but the grahical one doesn't appear - I'm left with a blank screen that is definitely powered up. ctrl-alt-F* doesn't get me anything viewable. It's not yet happened on enough of a network for me to know whether the network's still up or see if I can ssh in. In general, powering it off then rebooting gets it working. It does work more times than not, but I'm not sure of the ratio. Somewhere a bit better than half successful, I'd imagine. It's an IBM Thinkpad T21, with a Savage graphics chipset. I'm running Debian 4 fully updated. The xorg log is at: http://aviswebsite.co.uk/moses211108.xorg.log And doesn't seem to contain any errors, but I don't really know what to look for beyond EE and WW. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! -- Avi Greenbury :) http://aviswebsite.co.uk http://aviswebsite.co.uk/asking-questions/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
