Re: package management
On 4/13/02 8:28 AM, David Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Is there any way to force dpkg to remove as much of a package as it can and then liquidate the entry from its database, regardless of whatever error codes any scripts return, thus allowing you to start over from a pristine pre-install state? Something like dpkg --force-do-it-or-else --remove PackageName I'm interested in this one myself. It has been several months since I apt-got-upgraded my Woody machine and attempting to do so has the upgrade process halted with kde dependency issues that I can't resolve. I'd be willing to blow away kde and go with gnome - just to get this machine upgraded. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrade vs dist-upgrade
Viktor == Viktor Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Viktor You are mostly correct. IIRC, if the package structure Viktor changes, e.g. some packages get split up and others are Viktor added, then upgrade won't handle that and only upgrade Viktor the packages you have installed. dist-upgrade handles Viktor this case more intelligently. Viktor However, since the package structure in potato (stable) Viktor won't change, dist-upgrade and upgrade have the same Viktor effect. An upgrade on woody or sid might leave your Viktor system broken, though. Viktor So, if you upgrade to woody, better use dist-upgrade. If I'm already tracking woody, should I be routinely using upgrade or dist-upgrade ? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
ssh seg faulting
New install of 'testing'. I've apt-gotten installed ssh Running ssh yields a Segmentation fault. Anyone else seeing this? Any advice on what to do? I removed the ssh package and reinstalled. No luck.
lost in kde packages
I attempted to upgrade my working kde 2.1 system to 2.2. My attempt has left me with a half-working, error spewing, broken konqueror, mess. Attempting to complete the half-completed installation produces the following error: bear:~# apt-get -f install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 5 not upgraded. 63 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' near line 50969 package `doc-linux-html': empty file details field `MD5sum' E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) bear:~# Any apt-get command produces this same error. Any advice on what to do about it?
RE: lost in kde packages
empty file details field `MD5sum' apt/dpkg bug, not sure which yet, and I've no idea why doc-linux-html seems to be its favourite target today. Edit /var/lib/dpkg/available around the line number it quotes (it should be in a paragraph starting with Package: doc-linux-html), and remove the MD5sum: line. Thank you. Another list member suggested dpkg --clear-avail. That seemed to get me moving again. Now I have all packages as up to date as they can be, and all I'm left with are kde errors :-(Off to the debian-kde list I go
RE: Woody: X won't start after upgrade to 4.1
i had the same problem: startx died, GDM login either. Applying the above solved it. You guys are all ahead of me. I'm still trying to upgrade to 4.1. How did you generate the XFConfig-4 file? I ran XFree86 -configure and it wrote a file /root/XF86Config.new. It doesn't work, failing with a 'failed to initialize core devices' error. I don't have a clue what to do next.
RE: Woody: X won't start after upgrade to 4.1
BK == Bob Koss [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BK You guys are all ahead of me. I'm still trying to upgrade to BK 4.1. BK BK How did you generate the XFConfig-4 file? I ran XFree86 BK -configure and it wrote a file /root/XF86Config.new. It doesn't BK work, failing with a 'failed to initialize core devices' error. BK BK I don't have a clue what to do next. BK try: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 that should bring up a set of configuration screens for XFree86-4. You are my new best friend ;-) Thank you kindly, it worked like a charm.
RE: Software DVD players
Excuse my ignorance, but what's the attraction of watching DVD movies on a computer? It seems I'm better off in my comfy recliner chair or on the couch watching my 29 inch Panasonic GAOO then sitting at my desk in the den. Some of us spend our evenings in hotel rooms. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: Stable - 2.4 kernel, best path?
Hello, You can upgrade the kernel without messing with anything else - all you have to do is either a) download the latest kernel-source packafe (apt-gettable) and compile in your needed options, make kpkg and so forth, or b) download the tar.gz from www.kernel.org - what I generally do, although it's unpatched. Compile in your needed options, make clean, etc, and reboot. There are a number of good walkthroughs online - a google search for kernel recompile or something should give you more than enough options. One note as an afterthought - if you've never done this before, and aren't sure what options you need to enable, copying the .config file from your current kernel source directory into the new one before configuring can be helpful - at least you'll have all the same options chosen as before. Good luck, Steve If someone is going to compile the kernel, what advantage does the Debian way have over the procedure in the kernel compile howto?
nfs mounting problems
I posted this on comp.linux.os.networking and didn't get any responses. I'm hoping somebody here might be able to help. I want to backup my laptop (thinkpad-wireless) to the tape drive in my server (bear). On my laptop, in /etc/exports: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# cat /etc/exports / bear(ro,no_root_squash) /home bear(ro,no_root_squash) /home/E bear(ro,no_root_squash) /varbear(ro,no_root_squash) /home is the problem. It is the mount point for /dev/hda8: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# mount /dev/hda3 on / type ext2 (rw) none on /proc type proc (rw) /dev/hda8 on /home type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda7 on /usr type ext2 (rw) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) /dev/hda9 on /usr/local type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda11 on /var type ext2 (rw) /dev/hda10 on /home/E type vfat (rw) [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root]# nfs is running and I've exportfs'd. Moving on to the server: bear:/home/rskoss# mount -t nfs thinkpad-wireless:/home /mnt/thinkpad/home mount: thinkpad-wireless:/home failed, reason given by server: Permission denied bear:/home/rskoss# Other exported file systems mount (eventually): bear:/home/rskoss# mount -t nfs thinkpad-wireless:/ /mnt/thinkpad/slash bear:/home/rskoss# ls /mnt/thinkpad/slash bin dev home lost+found opt root tmpusr win boot etc lib mnt proc sbin ttys0 var So, there are two problems. 1. Why can't I mount thinkpad-wireless:/home on bear, and 2. Why does it take so long to mount? FWIW, these two computers are on the same desk connected through a hub. Bear is running Debian Woody with kernel 2.4.7. Thinkpad is running RedHat 6.2 kernel 2.2.14-5.0. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
RE: nfs mounting problems
I posted this on comp.linux.os.networking and didn't get any responses. I'm hoping somebody here might be able to help. I want to backup my laptop (thinkpad-wireless) to the tape drive in my server (bear). Not sure why your nfs isn't working but I'd suggest trying dump and rdump over ssh for network backups. I've been using it quite succesfully on several networks I run. I would love to use dump. But my understanding is that dump doesn't work on vfat file systems and I would like to backup my dos E drive, which is smbfs mounted to also be backed up to my server. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: stable - testing
I changed 'stable' to 'testing' everywhere in my /etc/apt/sources.list file. When using testing, I always left the deb lines for stable in the sources.list file. That is to say that I think rather than replacing your stable lines with testing, you should leave them there and add lines for testing. For some reason, I remember thinking it wouldn't work without the stable lines in there. I may be wrong about this, so hopefully someone else on the list can confirm or deny it. I didn't see any follow-ups to this. This seems like an important piece of information. When upgrading from potato to woody, should the potato lines be kept in sources.list? It's too late for me, but the info could help the next person that tries this.
RE: stable - testing
When I upgraded from stable to testing all I did was change the stable to testing in tht sourceslist and away you go.. So do you need the stable lines in sources.list, I sy no. I agree. I seem to be doing okay here by just replacing all occurances of 'potato' with 'testing'. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: kde in woody
I have installed woody (upgraded from potato) and now I would like to install Kde. My question is what is the magic apt-get command to start the whole kde install ? apt-get install __?__ I'm in exactly the same boat. I did an 'apt-cache search kde' and I see task-kde near the end of the list which looks promising. Why don't you try 'apt-get install task-kde' and report back so that I know it's safe ;-)
RE: kde in woody
Hi Bob! I did: #apt-get update #apt-get install task-kde E: couldn't find package task-kde what should i do? Now that's weird. Are you sure you're running Woody? Do a 'apt-cache search task-kde'. I see three entries when I do that.
RE: Potato-Woody HOWTO?
I've just subscribed to the list a few days ago and I'm seeing many messages about people migrating from the Stable to the Testing version of Debian which makes me think that it's not such a painful process as I had thought. Is there a HOWTO or something (perhaps in the archives?) explaining how to do it? (passing from the stable version to the testing version) Can anyone enlighten me? Welcome. I just did this yesterday. It was so simple, even *I* couldn't screw it up. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change all occurrences of 'potato' to either 'testing' or 'woody'. The difference is subtle. See Colin's message that he posted a few minutes ago for the distinction. Then, do 'apt-get update', followed by 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. Done. I chose not to upgrade XFree. One problem at a time.
RE: kde in woody
well, finally i am doing this apt-get install kdebase next apt-get install koffice next I'm donwloading the packages now, this should work fine after all Let us know when you're up and running in kde.
RE: Potato-Woody HOWTO?
I chose not to upgrade XFree. One problem at a time. Can you do that? I mean... can you unselect the packages you don't want to install? :-? The installation / configuration tool asks you questions. I opted to leave anything to do with X the way it was.
stable - testing
I have a Debian stable system, but I'm thinking unstable might be in my future. This morning I thought I'd perform the simple task of compiling pan from cvs. Trying to do the autoconf / make thing led me to install several packages, which required even more packages. I through up my hands when I needed a new glib, which required a new libc, which wouldn't install due to some other failed dependency. Okay, I'm thinking that stable is just too painful and maybe I should be using testing. Reading through the archives, I'm rather scared to move to testing. Seems many people end up with something broken when they attempt this. But, soldiering on I changed 'stable' to 'testing' everywhere in my /etc/apt/sources.list file. I did an 'apt-get update'. But when I attempt to do an 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following error: 45 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 229 not upgraded. Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: debianutils: PreDepends: libc6 (= 2.1.97) but 2.1.3-18 is to be installed E: Internal Error, InstallPackages was called with broken packages! bear:~# So now I seem to have a half-broken system that can't be upgraded. Advice? Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: can't mount smbfs
Quoth Michael Heldebrant, On Mon, 2001-09-17 at 12:01, Bob Koss wrote: I attempt to mount my win98 box known as thinkpad-wired on my linux box: bear:~# mount -t smbfs //thinkpad-wired/E /mnt/thinkpad-winblows session request to THINKPAD-WIRED failed session request to *SMBSERVER failed SMB connection failed bear:~# I too have seen something similar since I updated my kernel from 2.4.7 to 2.4.9-ac10 (at least, I've only noticed it since I changed my kernel). smbclient also seems to be misbehaving. I haven't spent any real time debugging this, as samba still works the other way (my token windoze games machine can still access my samba shares on my linux box). I'm running 2.4.7. Mine works the other way also. I need it to work this way (;-)) to do a backup.
can't mount smbfs
I attempt to mount my win98 box known as thinkpad-wired on my linux box: bear:~# mount -t smbfs //thinkpad-wired/E /mnt/thinkpad-winblows session request to THINKPAD-WIRED failed session request to *SMBSERVER failed SMB connection failed bear:~# thinkpad-wireless is in /etc/hosts and the /mnt/thinkpad-winblows directory exists. This has worked in the past. Logs are either not showing anything useful, or I don't know where to look: bear:~# tail /var/log/smb [2001/09/17 12:38:31, 1] smbd/server.c:main(641) smbd version 2.0.7 started. Copyright Andrew Tridgell 1992-1998 [2001/09/17 12:38:31, 1] smbd/files.c:file_init(216) file_init: Information only: requested 1 open files, 1014 are available. bear:~# Any ideas? Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
G4 Powerbook
I'm thinking of buying the Apple G4 Powerbook. Is the PPC distribution the CD set that I want to buy? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
RE: a good laptop
IBM Thinkpads work well with Linux. I'm using one now. There is a mailing list for linux-thinkpad users. In the same off-topic spirit, I'm seriously thinking of getting a Powerbook. Anybody have experience with OS-X versus Debian on one?
RE: troubles with IDE tape
which drive? which kernel? Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming -Original Message- From: Martin F Krafft [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 6:02 AM To: debian users Subject: troubles with IDE tape hi, i am experiencing troubles with an IDE tape, hooked up as secondary slave to an otherwise perfectly working machine. i created the device nodes for /dev/ht0 with `mknod /dev/hd0 c 37 0` but when i use 'mt' to display the status of the drive (or to rewind, or to erase, or to whatever), i get logs like the folloowing: kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_chrdev_open kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_read_position kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key = 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0 kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_read_position_callback kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_read_position kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key = 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0 kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_read_position_callback kernel: ide-tape: ht0: I/O error, pc = 10, key = 7, asc = 27, ascq = 0 kernel: ide-tape: Reached idetape_read_position_callback i get the same errors when i do something trivial like `tar cf /dev/ht0 /boot`, which outputs tar: /dev/tape: Wrote only 0 of 10240 bytes tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now i am pretty sure that the drive is working, it plays around with the tape when you insert it, and it's correctly identified by the linux kernel (2.4.9). any clues how i should go from here? martin; (greetings from the heart of the sun.) \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- . `___ (o-(o-(o-(o- (o-(o-(o- /\/| | | //\//\//\//\ //\//\//\ ` /\/\/l-+-| v_/_ v_/_ v_/_ v_/_ v_/_ v_/_ v_/_.` /\/\/|_|_| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: AIM and Netscape
go grab gaim. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming -Original Message- From: David Frischknecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:39 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: AIM and Netscape Hello, I installed the .deb AIM package that AOL had on its web-site, but it doesn't want to work on my system. whenever I try to run it, it tells me that a 'libstdc++...' file is missing. Could anyone help me? BTW, I get the same message when I try to run Netscape 4.78. = David A. Frischknecht http://www.fishnetonline.freeurl.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configuring ethernet driver
I would like point out a problem with the installation instructions for Debian. Nowhere does the user receive a hint how to configure the Ethernet driver. I wasted considerable time getting my network connection up because I didn't know, 1) what my Ethernet card driver was and 2)what configuration parameters it needed. I did get things up a running. I'd like to feed my experience back into the documentation. Has anyone else had the same problem(s) and if so, where could the documentation be improved to make installation easer? I had the same problem. My card wasn't listed. Good thing I had another computer at my side with net access. A google search turned up the driver to select. If I didn't have the other computer, I would have been out of luck. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: kernel 2.4.x
any info about kernel 2.4.x ? any one have tried it ? Yeah, it made my OnStream tape backup unusable. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
samba problems ?
Ever since I switched from RH to Debian, I've been getting errors from tar when I try to backup samba mounted file systems. The error is, file changed as we read it. There are many of these errors and there is nobody changing any of the files. I rebooted the Win95 machine and didn't start any applications and I still get these errors. Is anybody else seeing this or can anybody offer any advice? These errors only happen on smbfs. None of the local volumes have this error. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
printtool?
RedHat has a handy utility called printtool for configuring printers. Is there a Debian equivalent? If not, how do you folks configure printers? Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
Re: sound
That did it - - thanks!! Kamil == Kamil Kisiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kamil I had the same problem and so I set these permissions as Kamil per the XMMS FAQ (www.xmms.org) Kamil $ ls -l /dev/dsp /dev/mixer crw--w--w- 1 root audio 14, 3 Kamil Apr 4 16:46 /dev/dsp crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 0 Apr 4 Kamil 16:46 /dev/mixer Kamil That solved my audio problems. Hopefully it will solve Kamil yours. Kamil On August 16, 2001 04:24 pm, Bob Koss wrote: Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael On 16 Aug 2001 15:19:55 -0400, Bob Koss wrote: Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Try logging out and logging back in. Didn't work. But while I was at the non-X bash prompt, I tried firing up mpg123 and that gave a better error message. The problem is /dev/dsp. rskoss is in group audio and /dev/dsp has rw set for group audio. Michael H. What does /proc/modules show? Does /dev/sndstat Michael or /proc/sound give any usefull info? What type of Michael soundcard do you have? Is an esd process running at the Michael moment which will have grabbed the soundcard? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/modules 3c59x 25760 1 sb 7392 1 sb_lib 34544 0 [sb] uart401 6416 0 [sb_lib] sound 58576 1 [sb_lib uart401] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Neither /dev/sndstat nor /proc/sound are present on my system. Kamil -- Kamil Kisiel www.speechlessarts.com Kamil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to Kamil [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of Kamil unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: sound
Ade == Ade Talabi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ade Bob Koss, What is extreme programming? Take every practice that is considered good in software development (testing, reviews, etc) and turn the dials all the way up to 10. Do everything that is good to the extreme. Hence, it's name. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: sound
Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Just for informative purposes, what were /dev/mixer and Michael /dev/dsp set to before they wouldn't work? They were both 660. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: sound
Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Just for informative purposes, what were /dev/mixer and Michael /dev/dsp set to before they wouldn't work? They were both 660. I still don't understand why changing them to 662 and 666 made sound work, since the user is in the audio group. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
sound
Potato install - root can play music through xmms. No other user can. How do I determine which file needs to have its permissions changed? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: sound
Mike == Mike Egglestone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike Hi.. Any user that you want to be able to play audio...add Mike them to the audio group... Hi Mike, Didn't work. adduser rskoss audio That went fine. Fired up xmms and got a Couldn't open audio message. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: sound
Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Try logging out and logging back in. Didn't work. But while I was at the non-X bash prompt, I tried firing up mpg123 and that gave a better error message. The problem is /dev/dsp. rskoss is in group audio and /dev/dsp has rw set for group audio. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: sound
Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael On 16 Aug 2001 15:19:55 -0400, Bob Koss wrote: Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Try logging out and logging back in. Didn't work. But while I was at the non-X bash prompt, I tried firing up mpg123 and that gave a better error message. The problem is /dev/dsp. rskoss is in group audio and /dev/dsp has rw set for group audio. Michael H. What does /proc/modules show? Does /dev/sndstat Michael or /proc/sound give any usefull info? What type of Michael soundcard do you have? Is an esd process running at the Michael moment which will have grabbed the soundcard? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/modules 3c59x 25760 1 sb 7392 1 sb_lib 34544 0 [sb] uart401 6416 0 [sb_lib] sound 58576 1 [sb_lib uart401] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Neither /dev/sndstat nor /proc/sound are present on my system. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
RE: where are include files?
type: locate stdio.h is it there? Mine is in /usr/include If you don't have one, you'll need to install some more packages. I installed the C++ development stuff when I first installed Debian. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming -Original Message- From: Rick Pasotto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:36 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: where are include files? I know this may be a stupid question but where are the standard include files? I've done an apt-get of gcc. I *used* to be able to compile things. But I can't even compile 'hello world' now. It can't find stdio.h. I can't compile a kernel because 'make menuconfig' doesn't work. What have I screwed up? I've got mostly potato with some testing. -- And why do the political parties aspire to take over the direction of education? Because they know the saying of Leibnitz: Make me the master of Education by governmental power, and I will undertake to change the world. Education by governmental power, then, is education by a political party, by a sect momentarily triumphant; it is education on behalf of one idea, of one system, to the exclusion of all others. -- Frédéric Bastiat (1801-1850) Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Unresolved dependencies
-Original Message- From: Marcus Günther [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:51 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Unresolved dependencies Hi. I'm new to Debian and I think it is a very good distro. Especially apt is great. But I recently tried to upgrade via apt-get but got many error messages about unresolved dependencies. I already tried the -f option but it didn't work either. How can I solve the dependencies problems? It would help to know what you're trying to apt-get and what your current status is. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: Installation off CD
Whenever I try to instal debian linux 2.2r3 off the cd (bootable) it installs the basehurd.tgz archive but then I don't know what to do because if I restart the PC then when booting off the hard disk, on the command line it just comes up and says LI thats it! whats wrong, can you help me to install debian?? You have a disk partition problem. LILO, the boot loader, needs to be in the first 8 megs of your hard drive. When the installer asked you where you wanted to put the loader, did you tell it in the MBR, or in the first Linux partition? I always put it in the MBR. Since you're doing a new install, I'd just start again. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
Re: Upgrading kernel
Daniel == Daniel Toffetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel I never installed a kernel using the woody mirrors Daniel yet. Whenever I upgrade a package using dselect, it simply Daniel unpacks it and configures it. I guess whether the Daniel installation of a kernel package is somewhat different in Daniel that it would require user interactive configuration (in Daniel the middle of dselect activities). Could you please Daniel explain a bit about how would you install and configure Daniel the kernel this way ?? I mean, how do dpkg operates when Daniel the package is a kernel. Hi Daniel, I just went through this process yesterday. It's really pretty easier and as a former RedHat user, it is way cool! First, you want to have the Debian FAQ by your side : www.debian.org/doc/FAQ. Chapter 9 covers kernel stuff. Then grab the package kernel-package. This is the thing that makes upgrading kernels really easy. Now you need kernel source. You can get this from kernel.org, or you can get a deb package containing the source. I did the latter yesterday and upgraded to 2.4.7. Doing an apt-get for the kernel source package just gets you a compressed file for the kernel sources. You have to unpack it by hand. No biggie. Now comes the hard part. You have to select your kernel build options. Do a 'make xconfig' and you'll get a gui that presents you with endless choices to make. If you have a .config file, you can click on the button that reads this file and it will show the options set in your running kernel. If you don't have a .config, then you need to go through each of the choices and decide what you want in your new kernel. The process takes about 10 minutes of clicking. Now, following the faq, you'll do a 'make-kpkg -rev, followed by a dpkg --install, reboot, and you have a new kernel running. Always have a working boot floppy, just in case ;-) -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: AW: jdk 1.3
Andreas == Andreas Leitner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: personally I'm using blackdown jdk version 1.3.1 . It is supplied as a debian package. I added this to my sources.list : deb ftp://ftp.oleane.net/pub/java-linux/debian potato non-free I added the above to sources.list, did a apt-get update, but when I apt-cache search, all I see is jdk 1.1.x. I don't see 1.3.x anywhere. What am I doing wrong? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
turning off xdm?
I upgraded my potato install to kernel 2.4.7. When I rebooted, I was greeted with a graphical login. How can I go back to booting to a shell prompt and then starting X if and only if I want to start X? All of the runlevels except 1 seem to have xdm. Should I just pick a runlevel and delete the xdm in the corresponding rc.x directory? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: Upgrading kernel
Daniel == Daniel Toffetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Daniel I've upgraded the default potato kernel to 2.4.3 by Daniel downloading the sources and following the instructions in Daniel the documentation of kernel-package. Is there a reason you didn't get the latest and greatest (2.4.7)? Daniel Now I would like to upgrade the kernel using Daniel the package already distributed with woody, but I don't Daniel know how it is configured or whether/how I can change that Daniel configuration. Any advice ?? If you have a .config file in your top-level kernel directory, you can read it in using xconfig. Make any changes you want and you can write out a new .config before building. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: kernel 2.4.x in potato?
Wayne == Wayne Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, can I upgrade my kernel to 2.4.? Has anybody taken a newly installed potato system and just upgraded the kernel to 2.4? What headaches are in my future? Wayne I changed 4 boxen to 2.4.x. No worries. Wayne Add this to your /etc/apt/sources.list # Use these for Wayne kernel 2.4 update to Potato deb Wayne http://people.debian.org/~bunk/debian potato main Wayne then run apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade Wayne I use the kernels from ftp.us.kernel.org so don't recall if Wayne you get the kernel source with the upgrade or not. If not Wayne you will have to install the source header packages. Wayne I don't recall any headaches at all. Do get the latest Wayne kernel tho. 2.4.7 is running fine here. -- A bug in the Wayne code is worth two in the documentation. Thank you Wayne. It was indeed as easy as you said it would be. It took me two tries (forgot to include vfat the first time), but the apt-get and make-kpkg utilities sure make this a lot easier than it used to be in RedHat! -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: AW: jdk 1.3
rio == rio Brito Rog writes: rio On Aug 12 2001, Bob Koss wrote: I added the above to sources.list, did a apt-get update, but when I apt-cache search, all I see is jdk 1.1.x. I don't see 1.3.x anywhere. What am I doing wrong? rioapt-get install j2re1.3 That's the runtime environment. I was looking for the develpment environment (JDK). -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: backups using tar - /dev/ht0
Alvin == Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvin so you do NOT have /dev/ht0 as a device Alvin manually creaate a device called /dev/ht0 with mknod... Alvin and give it the type, and major and minor id Alvin if the device is made properly... it should be like Alvin crw-rw 1 root disk 37, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/ht0 Based on the instructions that you kindly provided yesterday, I have: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cd /dev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$ ls -al ht0 crw-r--r--1 root root 37, 0 Aug 10 19:50 ht0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/dev$ Alvin until ls -la /dev/ht0 looks liek the above line... there Alvin is no point to doing any mt/tar commands.. It looks like we're close. Alvin what kind of tape drive do you have etc would dictate which Alvin tape driver yu are gonna be using This is an OnStream DI-30. The driver is supposed to be part of the kernel. I'm running Potato with the supplied 2.2.19pre17 kernel. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: backups using tar - /dev/ht0
Alvin == Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvin if the device is made properly... it should be like Alvin crw-rw 1 root disk 37, 0 May 5 1998 /dev/ht0 Alvin until ls -la /dev/ht0 looks liek the above line... there Alvin is no point to doing any mt/tar commands.. Okay, a few chgrp's and chmod's later, my ls -al looks like you want it to look. But I still get: mt -f /dev/ht0 rewind mt: /dev/ht0: Input/output error -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
kernel 2.4.x in potato?
I'm still trying to get my OnStream tape driving working in Debian. I was mistaken when I said that the driver was in the kernel. The driver doesn't appear until 2.4. The kernel patches from OnStream are only for 2.2.14 and 2.2.16. I'm running potato with 2.2.19. So, can I upgrade my kernel to 2.4.? Has anybody taken a newly installed potato system and just upgraded the kernel to 2.4? What headaches are in my future? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
mount permission problems
I've been struggling for the last few days trying to get my wife's Win95 laptop to access her Quicken files that I have on a fat16 partition on my linux machine. There is something about 'mount' that is eluding me. This was working fine in RH for years. When I changed to Debian last week, it stopped working. Samba seems to work fine. I can access files in users home directories from the windows machine. It's the vfat mounted partition that's giving me access fits. The mount point for the fat16 partition is /mnt/dosE, and its permissions are: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -al /mnt total 19 drwxrwxrwx4 root root 1024 Aug 8 10:52 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 1024 Aug 8 01:18 .. drwxrwxrwx2 root root 1024 Aug 8 03:34 dosE drwx-- 93 500 500 15360 Aug 10 07:06 thinkpad [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Mounting the fat16 partition changes the permissions: bear:/home/rskoss# mount -t vfat /dev/hda6 /mnt/dosE bear:/home/rskoss# ls -al /mnt total 34 drwxrwxrwx4 root root 1024 Aug 8 10:52 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root 1024 Aug 8 01:18 .. drwxr-xr-x8 root root16384 Dec 31 1969 dosE drwx-- 93 500 500 15360 Aug 10 07:06 thinkpad bear:/home/rskoss# The man page for mount says that rw permission is the default. I've tried combinations of -o rw, -w, and nothing seems to work. Is there a bug or am I not understanding something about mount? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: mount permission problems
Patrick == P Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patrick Hi, There are a few diagnostic steps you need. First, if Patrick you login to the Debian box under your wife's ID, can you Patrick access the files? If yes, its a SAMBA problem. If not, Patrick we need to look at permissions again. I logged in under her id and was able to cp a file from the directory but could not cp a file TO the directory. Hence a write permission problem. But where? Patrick On the assumption that it is a SAMBA problem, here's a Patrick link that will take you through 10 steps that fix it... Patrick http://it.samba.org/samba/docs/DIAGNOSIS.html -- I believe it's a Linux file permission problem. The document above is also available in /usr/share/doc/smbfs and I did all of those steps last night. Passed all ten steps and it said that if I still hae problems I should ask on the net ;-) -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: mount permission problems
P == P Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P #! On Fri, Aug 10, 2001, Bob Koss wrote: Mounting worked. By repeating the command I assume you meant 'chown -R sue /mnt/dosE'. If so, that failed as it traversed the subdirectories of the partition. P ? Its meant to get all the subdirectories. It doesn't, see below. P As root do this: Make sure the partition /is/ correctly P mounted. Remenber that FAT doesn't have that many security P options so if its correctly mounted, this should be easy. mount -t vfat /dev/hda6 /mnt/dosE options -w or -o rw don't make any difference. P cd /mnt P chown sue dosE P chown -R sue /mnt/dosE/* kboom. Operation not permitted. Repeated again and again and again for each file on that partition. P chmod 777 dosE P chmod 777 dose/* Another kboom. P Now unless dosE is on another machine which is setting P permissions that cannot be overwritten, Sue will be able to P read and write to /mnt/dosE. The mount line shown above shows that it is a fat16 partition on the local machine. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: mount permission problems
P == P Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P Hey Bob. Puzzling one this. You should cc the group on all P mail as athere are way more skilled players than me. Sorry. I thought I was. I have to remember to hit 'F' instead of 'R' when replying. P soemting is very odd here. As root you can go to / and command P rm -rf /* and watch the whole OS disappear. So I don't P understand why you * can't chown the contents of the partition. P Next step: P As root: P mkdir /testdir chown sue /testdir mount -t msdos /dev/hda?? P /testdir ls /testdir P You ought to see the contents of /testdir. P chown -R /testdir/* That's an error. Invalid user. I hope you meant to say: chown -R sue /testdir/* and if you did, here's the bottom of what scrolled off my xterm: chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/agent.ini: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/custenu.tlx: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/groups.dat: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/groups.idx: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/grpdat.bak: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/grpidx.bak: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/layout.dat: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/mailfilt.old: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/mfilters.dat: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/mfilters.idx: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/mwords.dat: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/mwords.idx: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/outbox.dat: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/outbox.idx: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/personal.aab: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/ranges.dat: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/shortc~1.lnk: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/recycled/de14/sprynet/urltype.dat: Operation not permitted chown: /testdir/summary.dat: Operation not permitted bear:~# P If this doesn't work, P chown -R /testdir/* chownfail.txt P mail -s Re:mountpermissionproblems debian-user@lists.debian.org P chownfail.txt See if cc'ing the group and the copy/paste above does it. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: mount permission problems
Problem solved! Some combination of chmod a+rw and using the umask=0 option when mounting solved it. Now I can open my checkbook records on my wife's computer. Unfortunately, now I know for a fact that I don't have enough to pay the bills ;-) -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
backups using tar
When this box was running RH, I would backup using my Onstream tape drive thusly: tar cvbf 64 /dev/ht0 /stuff /moreStuff With my recent Debian install, this no longer works, giving me a device full error. But, with the 2.2.19 kernel included with Debian, the Onstream driver is included in the kernel. Looking at dmesg, I see that the Onstream drive is recognized as hdc. Not being all that familiar with /dev, should I now be using /dev/hdc instead of /dev/ht0 ? If so, how would that work with rewind devices? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: backups using tar
Michael == Michael Heldebrant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael You may need to install the ide-tape module if it's not Michael in the kernel you are running already. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ grep OnStream dmesg hdc: OnStream DI-30, ATAPI TAPE drive [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ Does that mean that the kernel found it ?? Michael What does df and Michael ls -al /dev/ht0 tell you? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ df /dev/hdc Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc 69995 69995 0 100% [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ ls -al /dev/ht0 -rw-r--r--1 root root 38121472 Aug 10 16:55 /dev/ht0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/log$ -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: backups using tar
Alvin == Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvin if the device is full... you have too much data The device isn't full. When I issued the tar command, it worked for a few seconds and then gave me the error message. Nothing went to tape. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: backups using tar
Alvin == Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvin you need to remove the file called /dev/ht0 that was Alvin created by the tar command when trying to write to tape Alvin that did not work... Alvin you need to create a tape decice called /dev/ht0 and/or ln Alvin -s /dev/hdc /dev/ht0 ( donno if it would work ) Alvin MAKEDEV /dev/ht0 should work MAKDEV: don't know hot to make device /dev/ht0 Now I seem to be screwed. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: backups using tar
Alvin == Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvin hi ya bob Alvin you created a file called /dev/ht0 that filled up the Alvin available space in / causes device full to tar /dev/ht0 was supposed to go to my tape drive. Why didn't it??? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: backups using tar - /dev/ht0
Alvin == Alvin Oga [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Alvin did you try: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV ht0 That's exactly what I did. Alvin = should work, if not... Alvin more info Alvin http://www-wsg.cso.uiuc.edu/resources/unixguide/devices.html Alvin you do it the hard way # crw-rw 1 root disk 37, 0 May 5 Alvin 1998 /dev/ht0 # # manually create the device that MAKEDEV Alvin failed to do.. # donno why it didnt work for you # root# Alvin mknod /dev/ht0 c 37 0 Alvin when ready... can you access the tape ( stick in a blank Alvin tape .. :-) ) Okay, got /dev/ht0 made again. Alvin mt -f /dev/ht0 rewind mt -f /dev/ht0 eject mt: /dev/ht0: Input/output error -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
have stable, desire KDE
I finally have a stable, functioning, system running X, using ice. It works. Cool. I would like to try KDE. What's my best plan to do this, since KDE is in Woody? Should I do a dist-upgrade and then get the KDE packages, or should I get the KDE packages in the order listed at kde.org and hope that apt-get and deal with the dependencies for packages that I don't have? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
RE: have stable, desire KDE
Have a look ay http://kde.debian.net Wow, that was relatively easy. Thanks. I have to say that this is the friendliest and most helpful Linux group I've ever encountered. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: learning to find packages
-Original Message- From: Dave Sherohman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 10:52 AM To: Debian User List Subject: Re: learning to find packages On Mon, Aug 06, 2001 at 03:13:48PM -0400, Bob Koss wrote: Now aim just segfaults :-( It was working about two installs ago, and it works on my redhat system, so I'm sure my libraries are screwed up beyond hope. Did you remove the symlink you'd created manually before installing the new library package? Hi Dave, Yes, I did remove the link. I also downloaded the .tgz file and installed it, but that also segfaults. I'd sure like to know what combination of things I had working 2 or 3 installs ago when I was using this app.
RE: learning to find packages
Might you be able to use gaim instead? It works fine for me, and, as a bonus, you don't have to look at AOL's ad banners. Thank you kindly. I went off and downloaded the tar file and spent a long, long time trying to figure out why ./configure wouldn't configure. I never did solve this. I just did an apt-get install gaim, and now I'm using it. Duh. I'm too stupid to live.
restarting a service
In Redhat, I would: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart to restart a service. How do I do that with Debian? Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
learning to find packages
I'm still in library/package management hell. I try to start an application and it says that it can't load libstdc++-lib6.1-1.so.2. I look in /usr/lib and I see that I have: libstdc++3-lib6.1-2-2.10.0.so libstdc++3-lib6.2-2-2.10.0.so I tried to make a link from what the app wanted to what I have and that only produced a seg fault. Can somebody please advise how to solve these dependency problems. Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: learning to find packages
I try to start an application and it says that it can't load libstdc++-lib6.1-1.so.2. You should not have to deal with this problem. I keep hearing that. ;-) Unfortunately, it doesn't match my experiences over the last week :-( What application are you using? Was it installed from a .deb? If so, and you used apt-get, the necessary libraries would have been installed for you. If you installed the package manually using dpkg, then dpkg should have informed you that you were missing a specific package. This is AOL instant messanger for Linux (my company uses it since we're distributed). www.aol.com/aim I downloaded the .deb package and installed with dpkg. dpkg did not give any errors. I look in /usr/lib and I see that I have: libstdc++3-lib6.1-2-2.10.0.so libstdc++3-lib6.2-2-2.10.0.so I tried to make a link from what the app wanted to what I have and that only produced a seg fault. Search for file names at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages. There are actually two search engines on that page. The first allows you to search based on package name, while the second (the one you need) allows you to search based on file name. I tried to enter libstdc++-lib6.1-1.so.2, and smaller pieces all the way down to libstdc++ and didn't get any hits. Am I correct in assuming that you are trying to install a non-Debian binary package? No, it's a .deb (see above). Robert S. Koss, Ph.D. | Training and Mentoring Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design Object Mentor, Inc. | C++, Java www.objectmentor.com| Extreme Programming
RE: learning to find packages
I tried to enter libstdc++-lib6.1-1.so.2, and smaller pieces all the way down to libstdc++ and didn't get any hits. Funny, I found it first time out. You want libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 from the oldlibs section. Found it, thank you. Now aim just segfaults :-( It was working about two installs ago, and it works on my redhat system, so I'm sure my libraries are screwed up beyond hope. I'm going to do one final install. I'm installing potato and then I'm immediately going to upgrade to woody as per the instructions posted yesterday. Stay tuned
Re: Where can I fine basedebs.tgz file for Woody
I'm going to try another (my fifth) install tomorrow, following the steps you've posted below, and taking careful notes. The previous four installation attempts have not gone well and I've managed to end up in package dependency hell each time. Right now I have some bastardized version between potato and woody because some of the woody packages refused to install. Stay tuned. Henrique == Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please tell me how to install Woody via internet correctly. Henrique I've installed woody machines easily using the following Henrique procedure (typing from memory, expect small mistakes): Henrique 1. Install the base system using potato's boot disks; Henrique it does the network install rather well. 2. Ask for Henrique advanced package configuration, but do nothing. Exit Henrique dselect. 2.1 apt-get update 2.2 apt-get dist-upgrade 3. Henrique edit /etc/apt/sources.list to point to woody; run Henrique apt-get update 3.1 apt-get install dpkg apt debconf 3.2 Henrique apt-get install perl5 mime-support 3.3 apt-get Henrique dist-update 4 dselect update 5 dselect, select packages Henrique you want, install. Or you could apt-get install tasksel, Henrique and use tasksel to select the packages you want. Or use Henrique any of the other apt frontends in woody (aptitude, Henrique deity-*). Henrique 2.1, 2.2, 3.1 and 3.2 seem to smooth the potato - woody Henrique upgrade a lot. Mime-support in installed in 3.2 because Henrique the postinst scripts of some packages (like lynx) seem Henrique to work better if you have mime-support configured Henrique before they run. -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
Re: A good list of what Debian installs and what it doesn't
A related question When I try to run an application and I get errors about missing libraries, how do I know which package a given library is in? Neil == Neil Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neil Hey all, a Newbie here. Love Debian, but I noticed some Neil things were not installed by default using the simple Neil package install. On debian.org, some mention is made of Neil this fact, but no detailed list of what is and isn't. For Neil instance, telnetd and ftpd were nonexistent after install (I Neil know, I know, I'm trying to install SSH as we speak). Neil Anyone know of a good place to find a list of what Potato Neil leaves out? -- Robert Koss, Ph.D. | Training, Mentoring, Contract Development Senior Consultant | Object Oriented Design, C++, Java www.objectmentor.com | Extreme Programming
