Re: Conflicts make APT useless
Thomas Halahan wrote: Hello, Thanks for your promt reply. Much appreciated. I didn't quite understand this: I fixed this with a link to a libdb?.so in /lib via /lib/libdb.so.3, and after that, the upgrade to a new libdb worked. Do I just install libdb and manually link libdb2.so.3 back to the new libc6.so. Is this right? The perl script for dpkg --preconfigure (called by dselect) bombed because libdb.so.3 was missing, due to a less-than-perfectly- organized package, I'm sure. I could start up dselect, but couldn't do anything, IIRC. So I symlinked the missing lib to a lib of a similar name, and finished my upgrade, which included, IIRC, libdb2.so.3 . I had to do this linking _before_ I could install the new libdb, or anything, for that matter. I'm sure my method is cheating, and may be considered heretical and/or dangerous, but it worked. LISTING-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] tom]$ ls /lib/libdb* -l -rw-r--r--... /lib/libdb-2.1.94.so lrwxrwxrwx... /lib/libdb.so.2 - libdb1-2.1.94.so lrwxrwxrwx... /lib/libdb.so.3 - libdb-2.1.94.so ^^ I don't remember that specific -2.1.94., but this is in the nature of what I did. I see '-2.1.94.' on the Debian/sparc host, which is my desktop, FWIW. -rw-r--r--... /lib/libdb1-2.1.94.so lrwxrwxrwx... /lib/libdb1.so.2 - libdb1-2.1.94.so Thomas Halahan wrote: Hi, I have upgraded glibc to 2.1.94-3. During this process I have had the same problems as many. i.e. * libdb.so.3 not found... -- Bolan Timothy Lewis Meek Unix Systems Administrator Romac/Sarcom/MCI-WorldCom: 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying M Ranch: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp connect/disconnect notification?
Thomas J. Hamman wrote: Is there any way, using pon/poff, to be notified in the console/term of connections and disconnections? When I type pon, I'd like to be told when it actually finishes connecting; and when my ISP disconnects me, I'd like to be told about it so I don't scratch my head and wonder what happened to the server I was downloading that file from. :) How? There are subdirectories of /etc... (uhh) /etc/ppp.d/up, /etc/ppp.d/down, or something like that -I don't have ... wait a minute, let me telnet check... - OK! I have the Straight Dope now: In /etc/ppp, there are scripts ip-up and ip-down, which, in turn, call programs and scripts in ip-up.d and ip-down.d, in which you can put some script that echoes a connection notification, or executes `ifconfig ppp0` so you can see your address, or whatever you want. I haven't gotten around to it, but I want to add a script in mine that appends domain koyote.net and search koyote.com to my /etc/resolv.conf, since the configuration that comes from my ISP doesn't supply those, only the nameserver ... entry. -- Cc: me (I'll be off the list for the weekends) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: .bashrc
Dale wrote: I'm confused as to how debian handles the .bashrc file. In my user directory, I have a .bashrc file that reads # ~/.bashrc: executed by bash(1) for non-login shells. ... But when I log into X and issue the ls command, it doesn't execute the command in color, nor does it do anything for ll la or l, what's overriding the .bashrc file? I don't have xdm installed.. Dale, does your .bash_profile have a source .bashrc in it anywhere? For your login shell, .bash_profile is executed.
Cc: to poster (was Re: OT: less v. more...)
Gerfried Fuchs wrote: On 02 Aug 2000, Bolan Meek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On topics arisen from this discussion, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: ...BTW, please refrain from sending to _both_ the list and me, I read the list. ... One may assume that those whose names one sees often are subuscribed, but how to be sure, generally? I propose ...In general, on open lists you should assume one is reading the list s/he is posting to Ah, good, so, with this assumption, one ought to remove the personal To:'s and Cc:'s, unless requested? (Like you did..) a habit of including in the .sig a notice: I'm on this list ...And how should I know what e.g. Ben had in his signature about being on the list or not? How should one know what your intention was to Cc: him? This might work for the first time, but not for the next replies (which, on a discussion-list are very likely). Well, if his .sig was respected, he should no longer be in the Cc: list, in the first place. But the point is taken about the .sig not being worth much for this, as a convention. It also occurs to me that some might not want to yield their .sig space for this, in favor of whatever political/religious/humor message. ... Brian May wrote: Gerfried == Gerfried Fuchs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gerfried I go another way: I included now a header that should Gerfried be respected by most MUAs: Mail-CopiesTo: never The mail-copies-to header does sound good, but I have mixed feelings as to if it really solves the problems. Oh, BTW, Mail-CopiesTo: never is obsolete, use nobody instead. See http://www.newsreaders.com/misc/mail-copies-to.html Mostly coming from this: Gerfried I think newcomers should rather be guided to _not_ Cc: Gerfried one posting to a list than to rely on some obscure Gerfried sentence in one's signature. The header I noticed is a Gerfried proposed draft that is included in some MUAs, and will Gerfried quite possibly be in by more in the future. OK. So henceforth, my practice will be to remove personal Cc:s Thank you. ... I would prefer another header (does the followup-to header do this??), that is like reply-to:, except it works for group followups, rather then private replies. Even better, if it supported mailing lists *and* newsgroups... If the poster hasn't submitted one, the mailing list software could add a default one. If there is already a header, it shouldn't be replaced. Another-words, I think it should be up to the sender to specify exactly where the group reply should go. If the sender doesn't say, then the mailing list should be able to specify. This should happen without affecting private replies (so reply-to can't be used). One problem I have, is that posts come to me From: the poster, and my MUA doesn't respect the Resent-from: header, so if I `Reply`, it goes only to the poster, but when I `Reply-all`, the list is Cc:ed. I haven't noticed a Followup-to: header (but I haven't sought them, either), so I don't know what my MUA shall do with those. -- I'm on the -user list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: X with a S3 Trio64V+ card
Stefan Bellon wrote: Hi everybody! Does anybody have a XF86Config file for the S3 Trio64V+ card? I've managed to get a 800x600 running, but I'd like to increase to 1024x768. Whenever I modify the XF86Config (with XF86Setup) to contain a 1024x768 ModeLine, the server dies when trying to start it. Isn't such a resolution possible with this card? I have S3 Trio64V+ in a EonTronics Renoir card, originally with 1MB, lately upgraded to 2MB. I have 1152x7??x16bpp. I had to use 1152x7?? at 8bpp until my upgrade. What color depth are you trying to use? Please be sure to Cc: both my addresses, since I'm dropping off the list until after the weekend. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: OT: less v. more CCing
Ben Pfaff wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David N. Welton) writes: Edward Betts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: more offers backwards paging, it is in the man page I am suprised that you missed it. ps auxw | more How do you scroll backwards? b doesn't work. `more' supports backward paging only for files, not for pipes. I've noticed this, and have been irritated enough by not being able to back-up on man pages, which are from pipes, that I've installed less. On topics arisen from this discussion, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: ...BTW, please refrain from sending to _both_ the list and me, I read the list. ... One may assume that those whose names one sees often are subuscribed, but how to be sure, generally? I propose a habit of including in the .sig a notice: I'm on this list And removing it when not needed. I think that will help newcomers, as well as those who have the habit of leaving the poster on the To/Cc: list. In other news, in accordance with the OT in the Subject:, I'm sending my reply to -user... -- I'm on the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: How to change I/O address
Nianwei Xing wrote: Hi, Debians: Ni hao. I have a question about network card. And I have questions about your questions and clues: it's mostly a terminology problem. When I move my computer to another place, I need reconfigure my network. By 'another place', are you talking about 'another place' at home, or 'another place' at work? If at work, is it because you're moving to a different subnet? If you're not moving it to a different network, you ought not have any need to change an networking configuration. The situation is when I reboot my system with my rescue disk and go to install, then configure network and then I did all apropriate changes. I'm not totally sure, but I suspect that networking configurations in the installation procedure only get to the installation itself at the Configure Base System step. But you need not use your rescue boot disks for mere networking changes: it's time to learn how to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file, as well as /etc/hosts, /etc/resolv.conf, etc. You don't need your rescue boot disks for anything other than if you make your HD system unbootable or un-log-on-able (...I know: that last one hurt a little... me, too). However It still doesn't work. After running ifconfig, I find the base I/O address is strange, so does anybody know how to change this I/O address or is there another way to make it work? We need some clarification. Can you type in what you see with `ifconfig`? By I/O address, do you mean the NIC card I/O address? In what way do you find it to be strange? Or do you mean the IP address? What are you entering for an ifconfig command? Any information is appreciated ! Glad to help; need some clarification. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim wrote: Bolan Meek wrote: What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, i.e. not have mounted? I have 104MB as root and 16MB swap there is 1% unuseable, presumably something to do with the drive geometry. Is this from a `df` report? I don't remember X% Unusable in that... Only a single root partition, everything going into it? OK, you can run with 104MB, but you don't have much room. You'll have to be really choosy about what you install, and only install a few packages at a time, remembering to hold (if you're using dselect, which I recommend) Up To Date packages so that when they're updated, they won't automatically get installed, clogging up your limited space for /var/cache... It is a Seagate drive which RH 5.2 refused to recognise. I used a Win95/Partition Magic Rescue disk to set ip up as ext2 but gave up with RH. I had Debian 2.1 installed but then decided to use 2.2 as I was planning on using ipchains and masquerading. But then again, if you only want this to be a router/firewall, you don't really need much space. I used a 16MB swap file. This seems appropriate. At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non essentials. Do you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a Debian package in non-free. Yes that is what I was refering to but the machine is far too slow to use on Seti. Why do you think that? Doesn't every compute cycle they get count towards proving there's nobody else out in those stars and planets? It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the future. Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only in there? Yes. I deleted How-Tos etc as I have them on my other machine and on CD. I remember deciding that I could do without locales, it was over 10MB. You can then use NFS to export them from your larger-capacity machines to your firewall machine, if you would like to have access to those docs locale stuff. Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. I am not familiar with cruft and it does not seem to exist on the machine. A package on Debian, available through dselect. Just use '/' to search for it. Before doing the update there was 8.5MB free. On completion 3.8MB. I had decided that I would use dpkg to try and remove the packages that deslect would not. It went backwards to the point where there was only 400kB free. Since then I have got it down to 1038kB 99% by removing wvdial and pppconfig (it's on a LAN). I am not sure what the status of dselect is because, in the original install, it ran out of space. I'm suspecting that it ran out of space on a tight HD because it was trying to install too many packages at once. When I do an install, I choose the Advanced install, to use dselect, then I hold everything, and choose a few at a time. I update the same way. dselect refuses to remove the packages I decided I could do without. Was this because of dependencies? What error report does it give? The machine has been up for over 62 days and I am reluctant to re-install but that would seem to be the simplest solution. This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. The problem is knowing what to add/edit. Back in my DOS days it seemed quite simple. Thanks for the help. I don't think I've been helpful yet... but Hey! Anytime! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: Help: Dselect ran out of disk space
Tim Wood wrote: Hi, I managed to do a floppy/ftp install of Potato on an old 4086DX-33 laptop (8MB RAM 120MB HDD) but ran out of disk space. What's your partitioning look like? What's the output of `df`? If you use cfdisk, are there any partitions you don't see in `df`, i.e. not have mounted? I used a 16MB swap file. This seems appropriate. At one point I had in mind to use it as a gateway on my 10base2 LAN but my current laptop (sorry it's RH6.2 at the moment) and Windoze98SE desktop are running Seti 24/7 so I'd like to remove all the non essentials. Do you mean [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a Debian package in non-free. It is running Distributed.Net OGR but the files are a bit of a mess. I have tried using Dselect to delete unwanted portions but failed. I got it to run by manually deleting numerous documents, which I was sure I could manage without, but would like to be able to use Dselect in the future. Do you mean that you deleted arbitrary files in /usr/doc? And only in there? Is there anyway to update the database to reflect what is actually there? I'm afraid this happened a few months ago and I don't remember exactly which files I took out. I have just completed an apt-get update/upgrade so I presume that the system is in reasonable shape. Only the files which have been updated will have been upgraded. I wonder if running `cruft` would be helpful. As you will probably guess my Linux exposure is limited. However I'm quite capable of editing any files. This is the starting skill of the most erudite Linux masters. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on Q) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
Re: current Redhat user evaluates Debian
John L. Fjellstad wrote:
Hi,
I'm a current RedHat user (started with Linux on RedHat because
it was available at Fry's), and I'm currently evaluating
Debian for a possible switch.
Can anyone come up with a list of advantages of using Debian
Linux over Redhat Linux?
I chose Debian over RedHat for dselect, which gives the ability
to see the list of packages available on a scrolling screen,
with controls to see various depths of information, and to change
grouping, and search, all at once. Also, the Debian packages
seemed more atomic, giving me more granular control over what
I installed (granted, RedHat had an improvement over Slackware,
with it's multi-diskette filesets), which fits the control-freak
aspect of my personality ;{)
I think that there are more Debian Developers than RedHat hombres,
but I don't have numbers (lies, damn lies and statistics...),
and believe that fixes come through more quickly, on the average,
than RedHat.
In addition to this, this an opportunity for me to contribute
to the Debian effort in a way that I could not with RedHat,
by becoming a Developer myself, and adding to the swelling
ranks, along with ca. 200 others.
I would also love to hear any the weaknesses Debian has compared
RedHat.
Hunh?! What's that?
Oh, I almost forgot to mention: I feel that Debian's commitment
to Freedom in Software is stronger than that of RedHat, and that
is another advantage of Debian, but that's a
religious/political/ethical issue that maybe ought not be brought
up just yet...
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Re: Non-root user executing pon
R. D. Loga wrote: When a non-root user types pon at the prompt they get Connect script failed. Pon works fine for the root user. I changed several file permissions to get this far. Do I have to change permissions on all the scripts in /etc/ppp/ip-up.d directory too? Is there an easy way to allow non-root users to use pon? Install the sudo package, and put in /etc/sudoers something like bolan ALL=NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/pon, /usr/bin/poff read the sudo and sudoers man pages for full details, but, with substituting an appropriate username for bolan, this'll get you going. Basic use has one line for each user, but, as you'll read in the man pages, you can create sudoers groups. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home ph. on req.) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html RMS of Borg: Resistance is futile; you shall be freed.
tcl8.2-dev installation error
Greetings: God bless you.
When using dselect on a sparc to install t{cl,k}8.2-dev, I get
...[relevant part of messages]
Setting up tcl8.2-dev (8.2.3-3) ...
update-alternatives: unable to make /usr/share/aclocal/tcl.m4.dpkg-tmp
a symlink to /etc/alternatives/tcl.m4: No such file or directory
dpkg: error processing tcl8.2-dev (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of tk8.2-dev:
tk8.2-dev depends on tcl8.2-dev; however:
Package tcl8.2-dev is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing tk8.2-dev (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
...[rest deleted as irrelevant]...
I don't _know_ what tcl.m4 is supposed to be, but I think
that a tcl version of m4 ought to be in the tcl8.2-dev
package, so I think that the configuration script
ought to be making the /etc/alt... link to the file
which ought, in my opinion, be installed in the package.
(But now I'm repeating myself over again...)
Is there an unstated package dependency? Should I link
/etc/alt.../tcl.m4 to something? Maybe just touch it
to allow the package to configure?
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Re: Newbie question
Declan Grady wrote: I have a Dell Latitude LS, and read the how-to at www.divisionbyzero.com/laptop/ but I cant figure out how to build a new kernel (to include support for ethernet adaptor) Step-by-step instructions are included with the kernel sources, whether you get the Debian package, or the tarball from kernelhq.org. After dl'ing the source, and decompressing/de-archiving, typically in /usr/src with `tar xzvf tarballname.tar.gz`, cd to the directory created, ls to identify the docs, read them, particularly README (IIRC). Also, there is a Documentation subdirectory which has specific instructions on various devices and drivers. Any FAQ's on this subject ? You may want to drill down through the links on http://www.linuxdoc.org, to find the Kernel-HOWTO -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: my mail daemon doesn't like recipient ?
Richard E. Hawkins wrote: I seem to receive most of my mail, but some isn't coming through. For example, sending to me from yahoo, my sister received the bounce message: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [her address] Subject: failure delivery Content-Length: 1069 Message from yahoo.com. Unable to deliver message to the following address(es). [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 146.186.61.98 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 relaying to hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu prohibited by administrator Giving up on 146.186.61.98. Is this *my* machine refusing to talk to yahoo? It's apparent that the MTA on 146.186.61.98 (a.k.a fac13.ds.psu.edu) is rejecting mail address to user 'hawk'. Have they been rbl'd or some such? She's not the only one that gets messages like this. I'll Cc: the offensible address, to see what I get. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: IP namesever
... ppp connection...IP address of the namesever is necessary to connect [?] The IP address of the nameserver is not necessary for a ppp connection, but it is necessary to have in a nameserver I.i.P.p entry in /etc/resolv.conf in order to use DNS names rather than IP addresses after you've completed the ppp connection. In fact, if the ISP has things configured properly, the server shall send the nameserver data, with which your configurator ought to create /etc/resolv.conf. But you'll have to make sure that /etc/nsswitch.conf has a hosts dns entry, yourself. You may want to read the NET*-HOWTOs and DNS-HOWTO on http://www.linuxdoc.org sorry about the newbie question. Don't worry about it: we've all started as newbie, even the most expert of us, of whom I'm not one... yet. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: combining unused space into files
Richard E. Hawkins wrote: I thought I sent this earlier, but it doesn't seem to have arrived . . . Oh, I read a version of this earlier. It was there. I didn't reply since I don't know an answer for you off the top of my head. Not even off the top of the pointiest part of my head... IN my last-ditch attempt to recover a long text (actually lyx) file that was deleted, I want to combine all of the unused space on my drive into files. There's about 80M altogether, and I want to break it into 10M pieces (so I can manipulate them in the 40M partition normally assigned for swap). I want to get a literal straight read of the disk. Can anyone point out how to do this. This is likely to be a lame answer, meaning there's probably a much better one somewhere, but had I enough RAM, I'd configure a huge RAMdisk, and `dd if=/dev/hd? of=ramdisk`, then start searching. Alternatives to explore might be a program, pretty low level, to read in raw sectors, maybe write it to a file, system(perl -e ...) to search, etc, reiteratively. When's your deadline with this paper, anyway? To complicate matters, the machine has no netwerok connectivity; it's a laptop, and the pcmcia hardware seems to have gone south . . . Ouch. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: How to install Acroread
Nianwei Xing wrote: Hi, debians: I am a new comer for Debian. I just want to install acroread on my machine. I am not the super user and also I have download the linux-ar-405.tar.gz. Any infomation is appreciated! If you want a private copy of acroread, one only executable by you, you may tar xzvf linux-ar-405.tar.gz (feel free to TAB for file-name completion under bash) , then cd to the directory that is created, which you'll see at the beginning of each filename as tar writes them out. ls , and read the README (however it is named). There may be an install script, or maybe you'll use it just as you've unpacked it, in which case, add that directory, or directory/bin, to your path in .bashrc. Or add a link in whatever executable directory you already have in your .bashrc to directory/acroread . If you want acroread to be usable by all those who use that platform, you ought to ask the sysadmin to install the Debian package, like Pavel says. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re:
Patrick J Draper wrote: I'm still having trouble with my Debian 2.1. Awww, shucks! Bummer... I've managed to get the system up and running and X11 is running of a fashion. Oh! Well, congratulations! My graphics card is not configured correctly (Matrox G200 AGP 8meg) and I understand that if I get XFree 3.3.5 that this will cure the problem,however I do not know how to get this and install it. Could you please help a newbie. We'll be glad to help... but we need more info. What package of xserver did you install? Try `dpkg -l xserver*`. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: PS2 mouse and gpm
Ethan Pierce wrote: There was some talk on the list earlier today about removing gpm to get better results with the paste feature. I plan to try this later when I get home from workbut does anyone know if taking out gpm will mess up the x server? Taking out gpm will not mess up the x server, however, if X is configured to get data from /dev/gpmdata, it will not know from where to get the mouse movements buttons. You may want to check into that. My main goal is just to get my middle mouse button working on my mouseman + ps/2 mouse. The paste does work, unfortunately only with l+r buttons combined instead of the middle wheel button. It used to work in Mandrake :( and Ive been so pleased with debian that I wont switch back. Thanks for any tips - I have tried XF86Config and xf86setup with just about every combination. So I think Ive exhausted that road of possibilities. Does that mean you've tried every mouse protocol in XF86Setup? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: Debian won't find my mouse
Trevor Ramoutar wrote: I installed Potato last night, everything went great, Congratulations! Welcome Aboard! but when I tried a startx it crapped out on me saying that it could [not] find my mouse (which is a PS/2). Can somebody help? check `dmesg | more`. Did your /dev/psaux get loaded? Did you configure X to use /dev/psaux? Maybe you ought to `ln -s /dev/psaux /dev/mouse`. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: X with shadow-passwords
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...I can't start an X session as unprivileged user. How are you attempting to start an X session? (Answers may be below, but I am confusing myself with the differences in syntax, so just to be clear...) What error messages are you getting? Try `startx startx.log` . Using xdm neither unprivileged-user or root can login Does xdm report something? Using startx just root can login What do you mean by can login? Start X? I read in the LinuxFAQ that it might be due to use of non-shadow password programs (as startx, X, xinit, etc). Since I'm using shadow-password protection in my system, I think this could be the problem. Not likely. And this reasoning doesn't get one to this conclusion: 1) non-shadaw pwd messes up X 2) I use shadow pwd 3) My X gets messed up. The syllogism is faulty. Look for the problem elsewhere. Does anybody know what version of xfree86 has this shadow-password compatibility? Is there any chance I get my actual version (3.3.6) to work with shadow-password compatibility? I use shadow passwords, and have no problems using X. I doubt that this is at fault here, really. I really appreciate any sugestion since I'm a newbie-Debian-user Oh, hey, we're glad to help, and when you can, you'll be glad to help others, right? (Is this the reason why nobody answer my questions?, this is not the newbie mailing list I thought ) This is the mailing list for Debian Users, to request give help, and to discuss the use of Debian, and related issues (just not _too_ off topic, please), whether one is a clueless newbie, or a (get ready for a phrase-coining) newless cluebie. I don't know why nobody answered your questions, but there may be various reasons: no X-perts available at the time of your previous posts, or, possibly, not understanding the nature of your problem, so skipping instead of delving into it. Response in not guaranteed, but has a fairly high probability. Este mensaje fue enviado mediante Web E-mail de MegaRed INTERNET POR CABLE http://www.megared.net.mx Solo de curiosidad, en qual cuidad o parte de Mexico vives? (Only out of curiousity, in which city or part of Mexico do you live?) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: images iso de debian linux ppc ?
Julien CANON wrote: quelqu'un peut-il m'envoyer une ou plusieurs URL où il est possible d'obtenir les images ISO des CD de la debian linux PPC. My French is not good, but I think that what is requested is a URL for Debian/PPC. I find ftp://ftp.debian.org/\ debian/dists/sid/main/disks-powerpc/2.2.16-2000-07-17 , but I don't know if there is an ISO image available. You may want to get ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/Contents-powerpc.gz , and see what Debian has for PPC. You might think of getting a CD from someone on http://www.debian.org/distrib/vendors . Unless your Internet pipe is fat, and you desire to burn your own CD, of course. merci beaucoup pour cette info qui me manque cruellement. Hey, you're welcome beaucoup. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: minicom connection to router
michelle wood wrote:
looking for some help in making minicom 1.82.1. connect via a serial
connection to cisco router.
I think that I can help. I've connected to several Ciscos with serial
cable, mostly though using M$ HyperTerminal. I _have_ connected with
one older Cisco, an IGS, using minicom.
hope i don't offend anyone because i'm using
redhat. a friend i work with raves about debian and suggested this
list...
We're not anti-RedHat, just pro-Debian. We don't think that Debian
is perfect, but we're trying. RedHat is merely less so. ;{
*running redhat 6.1
*when launching minicom, modem in initialized. modem is on /dev/ttyS3
and able to dial out through minicom just fine.
*have tried going into minicom -s and changing serial setup to ttyS1 and
ttyS2 with no luck.
Changing to ttyS1 won't help you if you are connected to ttyS3.
The possible issues are: serial cabling, speed, and protocol.
The newer Ciscos have a serial port connecter adapter and special cable
to go to their RJ connecter, while older ones have a DB25 connector,
using
standard RS232c configuration. With which are you wrestling?
Do you have the docs for your router? What speed, number of bits,
parity,
and number of stop bits are required for your model? If you don't have
the
docs, you can get them from www.cisco.com .
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Re: im doing a research
LêíGh wrote: Hi! Im a student here in the Philippines and Im currently doing a research on the different Linux distributors... I just want to ask somethings: 1. Since Debian is a non-profit organization, does that mean that you don't have any stocks information? Yep. (no stocks) 2. You said that Debian is free for all the people, therefore does that mean you have no prices for Debian softwares? Yep. Download freely free. Burn your own CD. Buy CDs from those who provide that service. However you want to do it, but Debian, per se, doesn't sell software. 3. Who are your partners? The members of Debian (a.k.a Developers). Software in the Public Interest. Have you included http://www.debian.org/ in your research? Have you seen the link anchored on Partners? It'll take you to http://www.debian.org/partners/ . On that you'll see honorable mentions of donors of equipment and services. 4. Who are your major clients? Every one of Debian's clients are as important as all the rest. The bug reports of each one is as respected as the next: judged on content only. Since Debian is not giving any special deals to any recipient of the distribution, nor for that matter, getting any money from any such recipient as a precondition of receiving software, Debian has no clients in the typical usage. 5. Who are the supporters of your major products? The members of Debian (a.k.a Developers). See http://www.debian.org/devel/ The upstream developers (Debian packages the software of others). For that, you'll have to see the individual packages. Thank you very much for taking time in reading and answering my email... I really appreciate this... Hope you could send this back as soon as possible because my research paper will soon be due... thanks again!! =) If you're really researching Debian, you ought to check out the website, and follow links. You'll get better answers there. (At the very moment, it seems to be down, though: very unusual). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: How do I get mail archives?
Pavel M. Penev wrote: (I know you like to help, so here is something to make you feel good... ) Well, thank you for the opportunity! Can you, please, inform me on what is the procedure of getting a mail archive? What I have found is at http://www.debian.org/contact; in section Commonly Requested Addresses: Mailing List Archives [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this what you need: http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/ ? (... or at least make you laugh :)) Whew! Oh, no: this would heap up bad karma. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: network/ethernet card configuration problem?
James Polson wrote: ...problems connecting with the ethernet card in my computer. The symptoms are: (1) ...network is unreachable ... (2) ...ifconfig -a, ...eth0, ...not there. ... Information about my system: (1) I have a D-Link DE 220 card. (2) I have the NC2000 driver in /lib/modules/2.0.36/net This is the appropriate driver for the card, according to the D-Link website. I would really appreciate it if anyone could help me with this problem. Until it's fixed, I have to rely on Windows 95 :( to connect to the internet. Let's see: does it look like the driver module is being loaded? Use `dmesg | more` to find out. If so, are you using a static IP, and have an entry in /etc/network/interface, such as iface eth0 inet static address LL.MM.NN.OO netmask 255.255.255.0 network LL.MM.NN.0 broadcast LL.MM.NN.255 gateway LL.MM.NN.PP ? Thanks, James Polson -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re:
CHEONG, Shu Yang (Patrick) wrote: Hi! ...debian (potato) box to an NT network... ...enabled DHCP... A ping to the proxy ip and the isp dns ip was successful as well. So the router is allowing ICMP. Have you asked your networking support people what outward connections are being blocked at the firewall/router? However, when I run dselect and attempt to connect to http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists, I get an error message about being unable to connect to the site. The proxy is M$ Proxy Server 2.0 whilst the webserver is M$ IIS, I think. I think that the webserver is irrelevant to the firewall/proxying/routing issues. I suspect that I need to be authenticated by the NT server before any ip stream are allowed to continue to my Debian box. Have you asked the NT Admin if this is so? Or is there some kind of proxy-allow list on which you need to be? At a former company, HTTP-proxying, for a good long time, was on an allow-onto-the-list basis. One had to log on to the proxy server in order to get a back-connection. ...under Windows 95, I can't browse using Netscape or Opera but can do so using M$ Explorer (v5.0). Was that, in Netscape, using Edit-Preferences-Advanced-Proxies-Manual? ...suggested to me using smb-NT-verify or pam_smb to enable my Debian box to authenticate itself to the NT machine so that ip streams can continue to be forwarded to the Debian box and not just stop at the proxy server. If so, you'll want to look into the SAMBA suite. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: apt-get problems
Frodo Baggins wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 kmself@ix.netcom.com scripsit: On Wed, Jul 12, 2000 at 02:15:49PM +0200, Jens Luedicke wrote: Hi there ... ...apt-get fetched all the lists but when it was reading/parsing the lists, I got an error message: E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room! ... Looks suspiciously as if you're out of memory. Not unlikely when trying to install a mess of packages. What's your memory situation look like? Swap? It's not exactly the same thing, but I'd like to give you a warn (I know, I know, I sould signal it as a bug... I'll do). In the In the Installing Debian/Linux 2.1 for Intel x86 document they say, about partitioning (section 4.2. Planing the use of the System): [...] Notably, the Debian '/var' partition contains a lot of state information. [...], you should usually allocate at least 50Mb for /var. Well, I did it. I even allocated 128Mb, just to be on the sure side. But during istallation it crashed. Infact, apt uses a subdirectory of /var to put packages dowloaded but not yet installed and at installation time you need a lot of packages. Then it seems to me that there are only two alternatives: make an huge /var partition, knowing that there will be a lot of unused space after your installation is complete, or don't make a partition neither of /var nor /usr, make a huge / partition and let the system use the space as it needs. Like Yoda said, There is another...: Don't choose _everything_ you're going to want all at once at installation time. Get your software in stages. And... hey! Where'd that little hobbit go? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: display export??
Ethan Pierce wrote: Im new to debian so Im not familiar with all the display settings. When I used mandrake, there were certain programs that needed to be run as root - like linuxconf/mtv/xcdroast etcall I needed to do was su and run them. Now in debian when I try such a move, i get a cant set display not authorized do I need to export DISPLAY localhost? Im not sure of the syntax...am I on the right track? The problem is that the xserver session belongs to you as a user, and it doesn't want anyone else, including root, to be executing clients on the same platform. I'm not understanding how to directly change this, but an easy work-around is to CTL-ALT-F2...F3, log in as root, and startx -- :1. This starts a new display. Then, you can flip between them with CTL-ALT-F7 ... CTL-ALT-F8. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: uninstall help
Jake wrote: Hi, I just installed Debian 2.2 version but I want to unstall and then reinstall it.I want to uninstall it because: 1) I have win-98 on it with two partitions of 2.6 GB which I might not able to access once LiLo is booted.Can u help me with that? 2) I am not able to configure my network in the Linux /Debian So I thought I will have to reinstall it setting some options for me to go to DOS -WIn 98 if I want. The simplest way to uninstall is just to reinitialize your partitions used for Linux, but it won't buy you alot to do that. Why not just edit /etc/lilo.conf so that you shall have dual-booting options? man -k lilo . man lilo . man lilo.conf The network configuration is a separate issue. What problem are you having with that? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: Installation of .tgz files
Suresh Kumar. R wrote: Hi, When we install some package using .tgz files, the debian package mechanism is not aware that the particular package is installed. For ex. I installed postfix*.tgz but apt is unaware of it. Therefore, when I use apt-get for installilng something else, it would say, MTA not installed and it would try to install one. Is there any way to fix it so that I can still enjoy apt-get install? I believe that you can use alien to install RPM, packages from .tgz, and (?) Slackware packages also, so that they show up, for instance, in dselect, or dpkg -l. What I don't know, and rather doubt, is that this method will Provide: dependencies, but there may be some switch that will force in a Provide:, or some other method. It's been a year since I've used it, so I'm not perfectly expert on it anymore (was I ever?), and I'll leave reading the man page, and the info page, as an exercise to the reader. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: crack?
Ethan Pierce wrote: Hi all, I wanted to test out crack on my /etc/passwd file... someone told me it takes 6 days to run for good passwords. While my root password is non dictionary, will crack work? If it _really_ is non-dictionary, probably not, but I can't answer for sure without studying if crack will go on from intelligent cracking methods to the brute force of trying everything, whether tracked-pseudo-randomly, or in order, but I doubt so, since that should, theoretically and statistically speaking, take _much_ longer than only six days. You'll just have to try it out. Im very curious about how much a user can gain if he/she is able to cat my /etc/passwd The same ability to run crack on it as you do, without having to guess at login names, as it would be without it. Plus the ability to see if any logins have no password, some of which, if not all, being so, present vulnerabilities. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: HOW-TO report a bug?
zhaoway wrote: Hi, I cannot report a bug using neither reportbug nor bug. The problem is that even I have set the EMAIL environment or using the --email opt to set my from: line, the bug message sent were still using my local not-FQDN hostname hence got to be rejected by Debian's SMTP server. (only that reportbug sent a bcc: to the mail addr suggested in --email.) My message got rejected saying by Debian SMTP server that he cannot route to me after the MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Perhaps you can configure your MTA to rewrite the header so that the out-going From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? What MTA are you using? I've successfully done this kind of thing with exim. I took out the CC: to debian-simplified-chinese, since I thought this was off-topic for that forum. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: Cannot echo capital M
M.K.Pai wrote: Guys, I am facing a rather strange problem. I am unable to echo the character M on my bash prompt. I am able to get M by perl -e 'print chr(77);' I am even able to put it in an email. Note the M right here. But at the bash prompt, I just don't get any M. Most important, other users on this system, like root and all others, are having no problems at all Please help. Do you have in .bash_profile, .bashrc, .profile, or any of those other dotfiles, or in any script they call a `stty ...` line that sets M to be a control character of some kind? Maybe some editing mangled it. Maybe a ^ was left out. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
XMailTool Package Market Research
Greetings: God bless you. I'm not yet a Debian Developer, but my application is in the queue, and I'm assaying to become the maintainer of the orphaned package xmailtool, as well as the upstream maintainer. But I'm wondering if I'll be wasting my time, and could better contribute elsewise. So I wonder: Is anybody using xmailtool? If not, is it because of a lack of features, so might if it had ...? Is anyone interested in an X MUA that is not bundled in a browser? I think that replies need not take up -user bandwidth, so please just reply to me, not all (not cc: -user). If anyone is interested in what kind of response I get, I'll be glad to summarize. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: IMP issue
Matthew Thompson wrote: Hello, all I just installed imp/horde/mysql. My server is located at mattyt.net. Here is my /etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost ... 192.168.1.1 doma.mattyt.net doma ... For some reason, when I point Netscape (from outside mattyt.net) at mattyt.net/imp, Netscape says 'Looking up host doma.mattyt.net', then it says 'Host doma.mattyt.net not found' of course, since the name doma is only know to the LAN, it's not a routed subnet. What does your /etc/nsswitch.conf look like? Is it only using DNS for host name resolution? If so, 1) insert files before dns, or 2) is there any internal nameserver for your LAN? One that'll forward queries for the rest of the world? Then put that first in the nameserver entries in /etc/resolv.conf. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: Combining 4 C-class networks: how?
Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Walter Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry to break in on this thread and being off-topic, but... CIDR is 10 years old! Anyone still thinking in class A and class C is probably still using COBOL too... sigh Excuse me, for butting in, but, all the documentation I have read on TCP/IP still refer to Classes. I know - and I heard that they even teach it that way in Universities. Still, it's simply wrong. It's like assuming the sun revolves around the earth simply traveling along a weird path (remember Keplers equasions?). Good books and good professors do point that out. Don't networking configuration tools default to using the Classes for computing netmasks, unless they are specified? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 972-729-5387 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home phone on request) http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan RE: xmailtool http://www.koyote.com/users/bolan/xmailtool/index.html I am the ILOVEGNU signature virus. Just copy me to your signature. This email was infected under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
Re: linux + wan (frame relay)
Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote: Hi, I would like to know if Linux (Debian/GNU) can work with wan protocols, especifically frame-relay? Linux has drivers for the frame relay protocol, and drivers for WAN cards. Stock Linux kernels do not have these drivers compiled, neither in the kernel, nor as modules. One must recompile the kernel himself for WAN support. It is a fairly simple matter to add that support: merely selecting in the X or curses configuration menus, typically, for it. That's, if I buy a wan card, can I route with Linux? Certainly! Should I expect some troubles? Troubles are pretty relative to expectations; expect some work. Some limitation? Open source = no limitation. Can I safely substitute a Cisco router with a linux+wan card? It really depends on what features you need. I had a momentary reaction remembering an need of OSPF routing using Cisco equipment in a past life, but I recover knowing that OSPF has been recently added to Linux. For simple IP routing, yes, you can. For routing with filtering (firewalling), yes, you can. For routing with protocol, maybe: we'd have to look more closely.
Subnetting Netmasking (was Re: Firewall)
Derek Wueppelmann wrote: You missed his point of having the NIC on the inside in a different subnet than that of the NIC on the outside. But let me ask first: isn't the IP on the ISP's side one out of the ISP's net? Or are you allocating one of your IP to your ISP's router? Have you considered this question? It really _is_ a key point. If you could point me to a good resource on subnetting that would be very helpful. Subnetting is included in these: http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Networking-Overview-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Net-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/NET3-4-HOWTO.html but I think it would be helpful for me to make a summary or expansion, however it may be... I tried to create a subnet, it didn't seem to work, however I don't think I created it correctly. What I've read has so far gone completely over my head, I am just picking up a few of the small details of subnetting but not actually enough to create one using the tools route and ifconfig, etc. thanks again. Subnetting is a routing aid, to break up an Internet-classed network into smaller networks. The Internet has three size classes of networks, A, B C. The A networks have addresses like AA.0.0.0, with 1048574 (1048576 - 2) hosts, B class networks have addresses like AA.BB.0.0, with 65534 (65536 - 2) hosts, and C class networks have addresses like AA.BB.CC.0, with 254 (256 - 2) hosts. Host addresses of all ones and of all zeros (binary) are not supposed to be used, since these mean broadcast (to all the hosts) and the network, hence the - 2's above. The class of network is determined by the first few (most significant) bits. The networking drivers of a host know how to send packets to another host on the same network, based on the address of interface connecting the host to that network. In the case of a destination _not_ on the same network, the host must send the packets to a router to get it to the intended destination. For each possible destination network, the network drivers will consult routing information to find a router that should get the packets there. At last resort, a _default_ router could be designated, which is supposed to know how to get packets to any arbitrary network. Subnetting is a scheme to break up networks, for various reasons, including isolation, by extending the number of bits used to identify the network portion of an address, by robbing them from the host portion of the address. The number of bits robbed is completely arbitrary, but in any subnetwork, there are always two host addresses that should not be used: all zeros, and all ones. Hence a network that was uniformly subnetted all the way down to only two bits of host address would have half of the total address space within the overall network unusable for hosts. The network portion of an address can be identified by the netmask, expressed in all ones in binary, usually translated to decimal or hexidecimal, from the most significant bit, to the least significant used bit of the complete address. Hence the netmask for a class A address is .0.0.0=FF.0.0.0=255.0.0.0, class B has ..0.0=FF.FF.0.0=255.255.0.0, and class C has ...0=FF.FF.FF.0= 255.255.255.0. These netmasks are implied by the class of address, and therefore, do not usually need to be specified in interface address settings or routing information settings. Netmasks are also oftem symbolized by something like A.B.C.0/N, where N is the number of bits of netmasking. Subnetting effectively ignores Internet classes, and therefore requires explicit netmasking specification. For an example of subnetting, a given class C might be broken into four subnets: A.B.C.0, A.B.C.64, A.B.C.128, and A.B.C.192. In binary: A.B.C., A.B.C.0100, A.B.C.1000, A.B.C.1100 . In each of these subnets, there could be up to 62 hosts. The netmasks for these are 255.255.255.192 Subnetting doesn't require that each subnet be equal. Remember, the number of bits extending the Internet-class network address are arbitrary. The above network might be subnetted into nets A.B.C.0, A.B.C.8, each masked 255.255.255.248, having upto 6 hosts each, net A.B.C.16, masked at 255.255.255.240, having up to 14 hosts, nets A.B.C.32, A.B.C.64, and A.B.C.96, each masked 255.255.255.224, having up to 30 hosts and a net A.B.C.128, masked 255.255.255.128, having up to 126 hosts. There can even be subnets of subnets. For a given host, if there are sub-subnets, the netmasking with the most bits ought to be tested first against the destination address to ensure that packets get sent to the appropriate router. At _really_ helps to use binary to figure the netmasking: 255.128.0.0 = .1000.0.0, hosts 0.0.1 - 127.255.254 255.192.0.0 = .1100.0.0, hosts 0.0.1 - 63.255.254 255.224.0.0 = .1110.0.0, hosts 0.0.1 - 31.255.254 255.240.0.0 = ..0.0, hosts 0.0.1 - 15.255.254 .
Re: Which window manager
Dinesh Nadarajah wrote: I am looking for a window manager for debian that will not soakup the system resources. Which one would you suggest? I like mwm in lesstif, the libraries from which are required for nedit, my favorite editor. However, the lesstif package containing mwm doesn't seem to Provides: window-manager, dselect nagged me to install one of the Recommended window managers. I chose lwm, since it took up the least space.
Re: Manipulating file content
Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
Bolan Meek wrote:
this one is for all the regexp, shell, and editing-experts...
How about us perl hackers, hunh?! Got sumpin' g'inst us, buddy!?
Of course not! How could I?! :)
Well, we members of the Perl Hackers Anti-Defamation League
sometimes are a little touchy...
Well, you could use regexp in sed, or use an awk script, but if
I had only 3x3 matrices to transform, in text, I'd
perl -e 'for ($i=0;$i3;++$i){;@entry = split ',';print
$i[0],$i[1],$i[2]\n;}'
with a file directed into it, and stdout redirected to a file.
This ..., well ..., it doesn't work.
(Head under the arm) Guess I ought have _tested_ that first, hunh?
At first I thought that you meant @entry[x] in your last line,
Actually, I meant $entry[x]...
but that doesn't help either.
Yes, I see that now.
I always get 3 pairs of commas without the values.
Besides, the way I read the code,
it doesn't do anything usefull, because a line with values seperated by
commas, will become exactly the same line. But then again, I don't know
anything about Perl, so this is just guessing.
No, you're right. That was a quick stupid of me.
Matrixes with unpredetermined columns or rows become slightly
trickier, but only by 1) keeping track of the length/breadth, and
2) nesting another loop.
What about matrixes with a different number of columns and rows (e.g.
4x3 or 123x234)?
OK. I'll figure out why I'm not getting from my split what I
expect, correct my script, extend it for arbitrary matrices,
and get back to you.
(Boy, do I feel foolish...) That's what I get for not actually
_testing_ my code. I guess I'd better resign from the PHADL,
since I'm going to give us a bad name
Re: Manipulating file content
Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
Bolan Meek wrote:
this one is for all the regexp, shell, and editing-experts...
How about us perl hackers, hunh?! Got sumpin' g'inst us, buddy!?
Maybe I ought have said perl slackers. (Well, I can get
away with that since I resigned from PHADL).
Well, you could use regexp in sed, or use an awk script, but if
I had only 3x3 matrices to transform, in text, I'd
WARNING! BAD CODE! WARNING!
perl -e 'for ($i=0;$i3;++$i){;@entry = split ',';print
$i[0],$i[1],$i[2]\n;}'
with a file directed into it, and stdout redirected to a file.
Here's the replacement code, in a script, instead of a one-liner.
(I could've one-lined it, but this'll be more understandable:
look! I even added _comments_)
#!/usr/bin/perl
while ()
{
chop; #chop \n
$origCols = (@entry = split /,/);
for ($i = 0; $i $origCols; ++$i)
{
$newRow[$i] .= $entry[$i], ;
}
}
for ($j = 0; $j $i; ++$j)
{
chop $newRow[$j]; # chop trailing ' '
chop $newRow[$j]; # chop trailing ','
print $newRow[$j]\n;
}
What about matrixes with a different number of columns and rows (e.g.
4x3 or 123x234)?
I tested it with a 5x3 matrix. It ought to handle arbitrary sizes,
but it doesn't test for irregular matrices, you know: something like
1,2,3,4,5
A,B,C,D,E,F,G
a,b,c
I,II,III,IV,V
Re: Peticion
Well, let me see if I can translate this: Gustavo Oceguera Ugalde wrote: Hola, encontre en en internet tu direccion donde menciones que tienes Hi, I found in the Internet your address where [there are] mentions that you have un scaner Realisys AVEC Easy 3, necesito los drives de este escaner a scanner [of brand] Realisys AVEC Easy 3; I need the drivers of this scanner (en ingles o español), podrias hacerme el favor de facilitarme una (in English or Espan~ol), if you could help me [with] the favor of providing me copia de ellos, de antemano te agradesco mucho. a copy of them, afterward I would thank you much. Atentamente Attentively, Gustavo Oceguera Ugalde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visite http://panda.mostang.com/sane/ , y lea en esos paginas por drives de escaners. Debian no los tiene. Y por esto modelo de escaner, es posible que SANE no los tiene. Si no tienes acceso del Web, sino email solo, dejame saber, y te ayudare mas. Visit http://www.mostang.com/sane , and read in those pages for scanner drivers. Debian doesn't have them. And for this model of scanner, it is possible that SANE doesn't have them. If you haven't access to Web, but only email, let me know, and I shall help you more.
Re: Manipulating file content
Viktor Rosenfeld wrote:
Hi list,
this one is for all the regexp, shell, and editing-experts...
How about us perl hackers, hunh?! Got sumpin' g'inst us, buddy!?
Suppose I have a comma-seperated or tab-seperated file and I want
to flip the lines and columns. So an input file like:
a,1,A
b,2,B
c,3,C
would be transformed into:
a,b,c
1,2,3
A,B,C
Is there an fast and easy way of doing this? Ideally through the shell
or with VIM. I would RTFM, but I have no clue which manual to read.
Well, you could use regexp in sed, or use an awk script, but if
I had only 3x3 matrices to transform, in text, I'd
perl -e 'for ($i=0;$i3;++$i){;@entry = split ',';print
$i[0],$i[1],$i[2]\n;}'
with a file directed into it, and stdout redirected to a file.
Matrixes with unpredetermined columns or rows become slightly
trickier, but only by 1) keeping track of the length/breadth, and
2) nesting another loop.
TIA,
YWATF
(You're Welcome After The Fact)
Re: Firewall
Derek Wueppelmann wrote: eth0 xx.xx.xx.1 :Connected to the internal network eth1 xx.xx.xx.2 :Connected to the internet. # note that the xxx.xxx.xxx are the same subnet since we are allocated a class C domain. Minor correction: to the Internet these addresses are in the same _network_, not _subnet_, if you have a class C. my routing table looks similar to this: [abbreviations made] DESTINATIONGATEWAY GENMASK... IFACE xx.xx.xx.254 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 eth1 xx.xx.xx.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 eth0 0.0.0.0xx.xx.xx.254 0.0.0.0 eth1 ... What you need is subnetting your class C network in several smaller subnets. The first one would be x.x.x.0/255.255.255.252 (or 248 if you want severaladdresses outside your firewall, for an i.e. Intrusion detection system) The other ones would fit your needs. The firewall would then have a NIC (eth0) in the first subnet (x.x.x.0/30(or/29)), and the second one (eth1) would be in any other. -- Well I tried all of that and it didn't seem to help me out. I am stuck using the gateway to the internet as xxx.xxx.xxx.254 and I can't change this. I have only been trying to get out right now, which shouldn't involve our ISP doing any routing work. I subneted our class C network using a netmask of 255.255.255.252 and put the gateway address as xxx.xxx.xxx.1 and the machine inside the firewall as xxx.xxx.xxx.2, the firewall machine can still see the outside and inside world and the inside machine can still see both IP addresses of the firewall machine. Any other thoughts? You missed his point of having the NIC on the inside in a different subnet than that of the NIC on the outside. But let me ask first: isn't the IP on the ISP's side one out of the ISP's net? Or are you allocating one of your IP to your ISP's router? It should be one or the other, to wit: URC=YOURCLASSC inet===ISP.n1/router/ISP.n2===ISP.n2|n3/yours/URC.x===urnet or inet===ISP.x/router/YOURCLASSC.n1===URC.n1|n2/yours/URC.n3===urnet With the former, you don't need any subnetting, really, and is preferable. With the later, you may need to subnet ...252 with the far end as one of those, and the near end as the other. The other NIC would be _not_ in that subnet. The /etc/defaultrouter, or equiv, on the hosts in urnet=URC.n3. On your router/firewall, default dest (0.0.0.0) gateway is the IP on the ISPs router. With you giving the IP to the ISP, dest xx.xx.xx.0 netmask ...252 gateway xx.xx.xx.yourend If you're subnetting ...252, _don't_ put two addresses in _that_ subnet on two of the NICs in your router/firewall.
Re: netscape
Jake Stowell wrote: Hello, I just upgraded from potato to woody and all seemed fine, that is until i attempted to run netscape/netscape messenger. i was wondering if anyone else was having similar problems and what I should do about it. i am a relatively new user, so i am not entirely sure what to do in this type of situation. any help is greatly apprecitated. It would be helpful if you were to give more details, such as quoting error messages, etc. The range of possibilities of software problems are so wide ranging that diagnosis without a symptom report is impossible.
Re: ops I deleted /etc/default?deleted /etc/default?
Tim Webster wrote: Stupid me I deleted the /etc/default? directory. I have no idea what was in that directory. Seems it contained some rather importanted stuff. If someone could tar up their /etc/default directory it would be great. Then I could use that /etc/default tar ball as guidance so that I can recreat mine. I am still able to bring the machine online, with a hand job, but its just barely. -Thanks guys. I need this today if possible. I'll send what I have in another reply, not to the list, but I have doubt that it'll do you much good, since it seems to be installation-dependent, having files needed by the particular software configuration installed (IOW installation set). It is apparently not like /etc/skel... I'll attach a .tar.gz, and also paste in a uuencode...
Re: quick question on annoying netscape
john smith wrote: hello. I'd like to know how to get rid of that annonying netscape group icons near the bottom right-hand side of communicator. (the navigator,inbox,newsgroups,addressbook and composer). well, maybe I can leave the navigator icon there... TIA YWIA. If you click on the button with the little dots immediately to the left of the navigator icon, the whole set shall become a floating task bar. If this task bar is closed, the miniature icons return to the right side of the status bar. It may require a double-click for any given build, but ns-4.7.3 on hpux10.20 only requires one.
Re: request for info
Omar Shuja Siddiqui wrote: hi im omar shuja a linux fan. i have a very old IBM 86 processor on which i want to install linux. Please be more specific about processors: do you mean an 8088 or 80286? If so, no. There is a project going to port a version of Linux to '286s, but it's not mature, and Debian certainly doesn't support that port. If you mean a 80386, then _yes_ Linux supports '386 and greater Intel architecture processors. i prefer to install Debian linux. I know _exactly_ how you feel -Morpheus, The Matrix Could you please tell me if i could do so. i dont want to install the latest version with GUI but i want a simple Linux which non graphical , text based and can run easily on IBM 86 and CGA monitor. You can have the _latest_version_, without a GUI, just fine. Just don't install the X packages. You can even install X clients, really, just not an X server. Not for CGA, anyway... I vaaguely remember that there exists one for EGA. Also please tell me that what will be the version of that linux that will run on that old computer and from where can i download it? I recommend Debian 2.2 (potato), or at least Debian 2.1 (slink). from www.debian.org. The kernel version for potato is 2.2.15. Just off the top of my head, I think that the kernel version for Debian 2.1 is 2.0.38 (?). // I should go look but you'll // find out when you go to // dl installation diskette // images, I'm sure.
Re: IPC
Parrish M Myers wrote: Hi, Does anyone know what standard Linux/Debian conformes to in regardes to IPC? AFAIK, Linux developers attempt to conform to the POSIX standard. I recently picked up W. Richard Stevens boot: Unix Network Programming Volume 2 [Interprocess Communications]. None of the programs inclded with the book will compile on either Debian or Redhat. What errors do you get? x not resolved? check your -lwhatever, find out by 'man x', if you have the devel docs packages installed. From what I understand Linux doesn't even conform to Posix1. AFAIK, Linux doesn't conform to the POSIX standard concerning threads, but is elsewise... So, does anyone know a good document on how to use shared memory? Have you check www.linuxdoc.org ?
Re: What is jetmail error???
mh99 wrote: Dear sir, I have kept receiving jet Mail Error notes for a long time, unfortunately both I and my customers, such as Jim, Pat, John, listed below don't know what is wrong. Actually I don't know who is Jetmail System. Received: from frank([202.103.152.177]) by public.szptt.net.cn(JetMail 2.3.2.6) This line, from your example header, indicates that the mail transport agent (MTA) on public.szptt.net.cn is JetMail version 2.3.2.6, probably the one sold by NetManage, who may no longer do so. One listing I saw indicated that it had a five-user license. As it is designed for a small company, it may be that particular users must be registered in the configuration as being able to have mail relayed. Would do please to tell me what we should do to avoid such boring troubles in the future? Upgrade to Sendmail. Your reply will be highly appreciated. Thanks. Frank Wang - Original Message - From: Jetmail System To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 12:15 AM Subject: Mail Error Your mail cannot be delivered to the following address(es): 550 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 550 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) 550 Unable to relay for [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Please check the above address(es) and then try again. Header of the source mail attached Received: from frank([202.103.152.177]) by public.szptt.net.cn(JetMail 2.3.2.6) with SMTP id /m0/aimcque/jmail.rcv/0/jm1f394705d0; Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:15:01 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: mh99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jim DAddario [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Pat Zerbo [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Scalzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: coiling Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:14:48 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700
Re: ibm token ring
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey there... I'm having some problems getting debian to see this IBM token ring card. Is there a driver somewhere I can download or will deb not fly with TR? Have you recompiled your kernel with a token ring driver or module? I don't think the dl'able kernel has that by default.
Re: TNT2
cam_random wrote: I have an nVIDIA TNT2 video card, but I can't find my card in the database when I configure Xany ideas? Justin Since NVidia's NV1/STG2000 and RIVA 128 chips were supported in xserver-svga, my bet is that TNT2 is, also. Have you used xf86setup (or is it XF86Setup?), and found the chip in the list? Are you using 3.3.5+? Have you used xviddetect?
WinModems (was Re: network)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wayne Sitton writes: Why doesn't the linux community push for these specs. I read all the time about going after the video chip manufactures to provide specs, Why aren't modems looked at in the same fashion? The video chip manufacturers, I think, are more responsive to those who can more likely be prospective clients, while the WinModem chip manufacturers have _already_ set their marketing strategy towards the users of M$ LoseSleep. It is more likely that the OEM bundlers, for instance, the manufacturer of your laptop, will have more pull: if _they_ say open up the specs, the WinModem manufacturers will respect that more. So, then, on up the food chain, the OEM bundlers will only bother to do that kind of thing if their _purchasers_ say Hey! I don't like this closed hardware! Open it up, or I find another model/will return this one/buy something else next time.. Or better, say Hey! I don't like this crippled hardware! Supply full- service goods, or Are _you_ going to sound off to the customer/tech support of your laptop manufacturer? They are. However, the winmodem manufactuers buy the DSP software in their drivers under a ferocious NDA and they are afraid to release any data at all for fear that the DSP software vendor will accuse them of breaching the NDA and cancel their licenses. If they lose those licenses they are out of business. It would be _really_ weird for the WinModem mfrs to sign an NDA under which they couldn't release _their_own_specs_. Are you sure this is how it works? Besides, why bother when real modems are readily available? Why bother is if you're stuck with a WinModem, and are underfunded, or feel too inefficient, to buy a second, fully-leaded modem. Wayne Sitton wrote: Besides, why bother when real modems are readily available? My laptop is a clone laptop with a built in Conextant winmodem. Right now I use a pcmcia modem. It would just be nicer if I didn't have to use up a pcmcia slot, when I have a built in modem Wayne, do you have a serial port available? How about an external modem? (Unless that would be too inefficient?)
Re: SIGSTOP signal
Nuno Almeida wrote: I would like to know if this is simply a singularity of Debian, or if it's a bug of mine. When I'm programming in C/C++ to other linux distr. and I make a signal trap I can't, and that's absolutly normal, trap the signals 9 and 17, for SIGKILL and SIGSTOP. On Debian I can catch the SIGSTOP signal is this normal? Why the diference? Nothing can trap SIGKILL. Elsewise, how could anything be killed for sure? I'm not really familiar with SIGSTOP. But let me check... (snips from man below). Looks like it is _not_ normal to trap the SIGSTOP, not even on Linux, including Debian. If it _can_ it should be a bug to report to the maintainer of kernel-image*. My HP-UX box says (from `man kill`): 0 SIGNULL NullCheck access to pid 1 SIGHUPHangup Terminate; can be trapped 2 SIGINTInterrupt Terminate; can be trapped 3 SIGQUIT QuitTerminate with core dump; can be trapped 9 SIGKILL KillForced termination; cannot be trapped 15 SIGTERM Terminate Terminate; can be trapped 24 SIGSTOP StopPause the process; cannot be trapped == 25 SIGTSTP Terminal stop Pause the process; can be trapped 26 SIGCONT ContinueRun a stopped process My debian-sparc box says: Linux November 21, 1999 1 () () ALRM 14 exitHUP 1exitINT 2exit KILL 9exit this signal maynotbeblocked PIPE 13 exitPOLL exitPROF exit TERM 15 exitUSR1 exitUSR2 exit VTALRM exit STKFLT exit may not be imple- mented PWR ignoremay exit on some systems WINCH ignore CHLD ignore URG ignore TSTP stop may interact with the shell TTIN stop may interact with the shell TTOU stop may interact with the shell STOP stop thissignalmaynot be blocked == CONT restart continue if stopped, otherwise ignore ABRT 6coreFPE 8coreILL 4core QUIT 3coreSEGV 11 coreTRAP 5core SYS core may not be implemented EMT core may not be implemented BUS core core dump may fail XCPU core core dump may fail XFSZ core core dump may fail The man page on Solaris 7 says: ... The signal() and sigset() functions modify signal disposi- tions. The sig argument specifies the signal, which may be any signal except SIGKILL and SIGSTOP. The disp argument specifies the signal's disposition, which may be SIG_DFL, ...
Re: hosts-entry... wtf?!
Sven Burgener wrote: Hi all For some weird reason, I have the following entry in my /etc/hosts file. What is the meaning of that? I dont think I added it myself... ! (I changed the real FQDN) 0.0.0.0host.domain.com My guess is that it's a dummy, for example kind of thing. Oh! Now I see that you changed the previous FQDN. Besides, it should have been commented out if it were. Hmmm. Are you on a LAN? Or just using ppp? Or neither? What do /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/resolv.conf say? How did you answer base-config when it asked you the networking questions? And just what _was_ that FQDN? (enquiring minds want to know...) This doesn't feel good... I wonder why it doesn't have 127.0.0.1 localhost loghost loopbacklo lo0 or something like that.
Re: help
Sherry wrote:
Hi,
Greetings: God bless you.
A friend installed debian on my PC. l now have a hardware modem
and would like to install PHP for veiwing.
My debian has know user interface. Could someone help me.
\- no?
You surely have a character (a.k.a. text) interface, at least.
If not, I have no imagination as to how your friend installed Debian.
Perhaps you mean graphical user interface, as in the X Windowing
System (?).
I presume when your friend installed Debian, you were given the
root (superuser) password can log in as such? If so, log in,
get your network connection going, unless you have a Debian CD,
run 'dselect'. Use the '[S]elect' option.
Be sure to read the help screens to understand
the what the keys do.
You can scroll down, and choose packages that you want, or you
can search for some text, such as 'php', and choose whichever
of those seem appropriate.
I am in some doubt that you need php: if I am not mistaken,
this is for web-servers for interfacing to databases. What
you need, I think, is a web browser. Some available through
dselect are lynx (character-based), chimera2, arena, qweb,
gzilla, mozilla, and netscape. Search, or scroll/page to the 'web'
section. There are others in there also: I just can't
remember the names of the others.
What are the ways you want to use your Debian system?
passion
What an intriguing name... ;{)
Re: Us ROboTÝCS
I'd like to help... and so might others. However we need more precise info from you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.3com.co.uk/products/modems/prod-faxmod-ext.html -- this is my modem. Good for the link... i used kppp kwdial minicom . i used all linux versions, i compiled kernels. and last betas, i configured DNS ,ifconfig. Wow! A lot of steps to wring out a few more bps. Impressive! there are no errors in the packets, there are no conflicts on IRQ s. If there were, you probably couldn't even be using it. my problem is that my modem is showing a poor performance in linux(it is good in windows) What, please, do you mean by poor performance? What connect rates and data throughput rates are you getting? i have this problem for 6 months. So you've had a lot of time to complete all those new installs and kernel recompiles. It's getting clearer now... i made all the things required. Well, don't assume this yet... I wonder what init string is going to the modem? Does the modem connect in x2 or in v.90? There may be an AT command that gives last connect info, if you'll use minicom to talk direct to the serial port/modem immediately after a ppp connection. If not, you can ask your ISP to check the logs. With some of these dual 56K protocol modems, it will default to connect with the older protocol, and has to be told to use v.90. This happens with some K56flex/v.90 modems as well. Please,help me Glad to be of service. I'm not sure I'm helping yet, though.
Re: 2.4test1 make zImage error
adam.edgar wrote:
I have run into a bit of a problem when compiling the test kernel
under potato. When I make zImage it runs all the way to the end and then
crashes after reporting that the system is to large.
In that case, use `make bzImage`. It uses bzip2, if I'm not mistaken,
so you'll need to have that.
Yet the size it
reports is actualy smaller than that of the current kernel (The default
for potato). Has any one else run into this problem? Or am I doing
something stupid. The exact step I have used (which work with 2.2.x) are
as follows:
cd /usr/src/linux
make mrproper
make menuconfig
make dep
make clean
I don't think you're supposed to `make clean` after `make dep`:
you'll be removing some of the work done by `make menuconfig`
and `make dep`. I always go straight to `make zImage` or bzImage`
after `make dep`.
make zImage
And here it crashes. Ive tried bzImage
Oh! You beat me to it! Rats!
and it runs to completion, but for
some unkown reason it want run
What do you mean by this? What does it do? Not do?
(I even tried bzlilo but it just wont boot).
I've never completely worked throught the steps necessary to
get the `make *lilo` commands working, so I always move
the kernel from arch/i386/boot to /boot/vmlinuz-?.?.??, modify
my symlinks if necessary, run `lilo`, then reboot. Rarely
fails, unless, of course, I screw something up ;{) Which
only happens about one out of six times or so.
If you have any idea how i can get things working I would be much
appreciated.
You mean if you get things working someone will much appreciate you?
Re: off-topic
john smith wrote:
... if software from os/2 can be ported to linux.
Basically, any software can be ported. If you can
get the source code...
I know that os/2
can use enlightenment, etc so that means the libraries used are not much
different to linux??? (i'm guessing here...)
The libraries may have similarities (will have: windowing systems are
windowing systems), but there are different names for similar functions,
at the least. A porter will have to know what functions in what
X/V/LessTiff/Gnome/KDE/whatevertoolkit do the same things as the
functions called in OS/2. Not to mention if there are any basic
differences in the message-passing/event-handling system, and
how to translate/reformulate.
or maybe if it cannot be ported maybe there is an emulator around?
I'm not aware of an OS/2 emulator similar to the Wine and FreeDOS
implementations. But like I said, _anything_ can be ported: just
takes lots of learning and work :{)
Re: Fortifying netscape
Johann Spies wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 04:40:31AM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 08:40:58AM +0200, Johann Spies wrote: I have done this before, but can not get it right this time. I want to fortify Netscape Communicator 4.72 but do not find the correct path to direct Fortify.sh to. I am not sure for which file Fortify is looking. Can somebody help me on this one please? tell it: /usr/lib/netscape/472/communicator/communicator-smotif.real Thanks for the answer, but it is not working :( Fortify says: /usr/lib/netscape/472/communicator/communicator-smotif.real is not recognisable. It is either not a copy of Netscape, or it is a version of Netscape that is not listed in the Index file. I'm fairly ignorant here, but... what versions of Netscape are listed in the Index file, whatever that is?
Re: No Subject
Phillip Payne (PAYNEPH @ GBNUHO) wrote: ... Hi, I have been trying to unsubscribe from this list, because it just generates tto much mail, without any success. The two methods i have tried so far have been :- sending mail to 1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe and no message body. This is the correct and effective way to do this. I have used this. It works, but in a three step process: 1) You send to debian-user-request a message with a subject of unsubscribe 2) debian-user-request send back a confirmation message, with some request id 3) You reply to the message. There is no need to edit the reply at all: just send. I, being more picky, like to take our the Re: in front of the Confirm n1n2n3n4..., and remove almost the entire body of the message except my unsubscribe request, since I have the penchant for putting unsubscribe in the message body also. In the same manner, I look both ways when crossing a one-way street. 2. [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a message body of unsubscribe It would be nice if debian-user-request could handle it either way, but the Subject: is really the required field.
Re: problem with cfdisk
Christian Mathes wrote: Hi all, I currently try to install Debian 2.1. I have problems to configure my hard disk drive properly. Just as friendly assistance in your English usage -and I see that your English is quite good- the gerund form, in this case, configuring, is more often used as the verbal noun denoting an action, than the infinite form, which is opposite, as I understand from my studies in German and Spanish, to most other European languages. English is pathological in this respect, as in many others. I wish to abandon it, but I can't seem to get along with out it at this time. With the help of cfdisk 0.8, I created a partition table with this shape: name flags partition type file system size hda1 bootprimary Win95 FAT32 3498 MB -- hda5 logical Linux Swap 125 MB + hda6 bootlogical Linux 4408 MB +---which one? -- When I saved this configuration, I recieved this error message: writing partition table... no primary partition is bootable The DOS-MBR can'tboot from it. Change bootability of current pariution So far the message. Well, at this moment, the cursor is at hda6 and this device is marked as bootable. Can you please tell me, what I did wrong here? My guess is that the problem is having two partition marked as bootable.
Re: Send an DNS Message
Tran Van Tan wrote: Hi ! How do I enable an DNS message and send it to nameserver ? Uh... maybe it's just a terminology problem, or language problem, but... One doesn't _send_ DNS messages to a nameserver, one sends DNS _queries_. This is handled in the resolver library, or kernel networking handler, enabled by an entry of hosts: dns # or dns files or files dns ... in /etc/nsswitch.conf, and directed to an appropriate nameserver with an entry such as nameserver 13.169.12.144# replace with the closest nameserver in your network in /etc/resolv.conf There can be, typically, three effective entries of nameserver ...; if the first is unreachable, then the second is tried, and so on. It is a shortcut to be able to leave off the domain if entries of domain somecollege.edu.vn search anotheruniversity.edu.vn,somebusiness.com.vn are also in /etc/resolv.conf For command-line access to DNS, use 'nslookup'. See also DNS-HOWTO, for example at www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html, or the DNS-HOWTO.txt at your favorite documentation repository. Thanks. Anytime Almost...
Re: SB16
JC Portlock wrote: ...First, How can I get my SB16 pnp to work in linux? Use the isapnp package. Load driver modules with appropriate arguments. ...fairly experienced Debian users... Can we get details as to what they've tried? The above question is really too broad, and my answer only a summary. ...Sorry I can't give you the error messages these guys were running into, as they were in my box remotely. Perhaps they can capture stderr into a file? Or snip /var/log/messages output for you? ...Star Office...Windoz to Linux, Good for you, but (sorry)... ...download fonts comparable to the .TTL's used in Word? can't help you here. Perhaps someone else will be kind enough to wade in on this one?
Re: make problems
Joseph de los Santos wrote: however, when I try to run make from that new partition I get this error: Let me guess: did you run ./configure in your home directory, then mv the files to your working space on your new partition? make -C src/ptlib/unix both ; make -C tools/asnparser both ; make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/ext/pwlib/src/ptlib/unix' OK... make will look in src/ptlib/unix for the Makefile, Makefile:209: /home/jhou/pwlib/make/unix.mak: No such file or directory What does line 209 of src/ptlib/unix/Makefile have in it? I'm wondering if there's some $HOME/src/pwlib/make/unix.mak, or some variant. grep: /home/jhou/pwlib/version.h: No such file or directory ... make: *** [both] Error 2 this may have to do with symlinks but I am really not sure. What symlinks do you have set up? also Tried to make as root but still get the same error (except for the directory /home/* it's changed to /root/pwlib/blah... This strengthens my suspicion of some derivation of $HOME to get your working directory. Maybe you should (from $HOME) ln -s /mnt/export/pwlib pwlib, then cd pwlib, and try your make -C ...
Re: fdisk/mkfs problem
john smith wrote: ... mkfs -t FAT32 or mkfs -t Win95 FAT32 Try '-t vfat'.
Re: zombies
Sven Burgener wrote: ... Today I noticed the following: 15444 ? Z0:00 (cron zombie) Under which circumstances does a process turn into a zombie? I assume this applies to UNIX in general. zombies are what is left from child processes when the parents thereof do not wait() for them, but exit() instead. Any pointers / references appreciated. http://support.qnx.com/support/docs/qnx4/sysarch/proc.html has another wording. TIA YWIA
Re: zombies
Bolan Meek wrote: Sven Burgener wrote: ... Today I noticed the following: 15444 ? Z0:00 (cron zombie) Under which circumstances does a process turn into a zombie? I assume this applies to UNIX in general. zombies are what is left from child processes when the parents thereof do not wait() for them, but exit() instead. Whoops: they are what is left from child processes if _they_ terminate without being wait()ed. Sorry for the confusion. I'm glad I read the link I passed along. Any pointers / references appreciated. http://support.qnx.com/support/docs/qnx4/sysarch/proc.html has another wording. BTW, I found this by requesting a search of 'zombie process' on http://www.google.com/search?q=num=100
Re: zombies
Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: Today I noticed the following: ... Under which circumstances does a process turn into a zombie? I assume this applies to UNIX in general. zombies are what is left from child processes when the parents thereof do not wait() for them, but exit() instead. that's wrong ... if the parent process would exit, then it's children would be inherited by init, which would make a wait() upon the sigchld it will receive, when the child exits. long-time zombies typically indicate a locked up parent process. Ah, yes. I'd caught myself, but you beat me to it: good work!
Re: Network Cards
Jay Kelly wrote: I have a quick qestion, I want my nic cards (eth0 and eth1) to keep the setting I configure such as ip, netmask after rebooting. Each time I reboot eth1 dumps all the information I put in the ifconfig setup. How can I get it to store and keep the information for both nic cards? I find on my frozen (potato) installation on a sparc the file /etc/network/interfaces, described in `man interfaces`.
Re: kysmoops
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Given that the directory isn't being rotated, is contantly growing, | neither keysmoop nor keysmoops returns any hits on Google, and | that smoop looks suspiciously like snoop.. Forgive me; I mis-typed. The directory is actually `ksymoops' and it's obviously not the result of a security breach. According to kernelnotes.org, ksymoops is a program to: Read a kernel Oops file and make the best stab at converting the code to instructions and mapping stack values to kernel symbols. ... Which all makes a kind of sense. Except that I didn't create /var/log/ksymoops (I wouldn't have known how to or why to; I had never heard of ksymoops before I noticed the existence of the log files); it must have been created automatically in the upgrade process from slink to frozen. One of the the required or standard or important packages in frozen (potato) recommends the ksymoops package. I avoided it for a long time, not feeling need for it, but since I like to = (hold) installed packages, and was even more annoyed by the suggestion coming up, I went ahead and installed it. You may have selected it inadvertently with a list of depends/recommends.
HOWTO get src via dselect?
Greetings, all: God bless you. I have noticed for some time now that, when 2)Update ing in dselect, that source package list files are hit gotten. Is there a way to get source file packages though dselect? I fail to find any key combination in the help screens.
