Re: LI when booting
Michael Roark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know this topic is hardly fresh, but I can't find the solution anywhere. You know the case -- installing to a large disk -- reboot and freeze at LI. What how-to do I read to find the fix? I once had this problem. Here is my (now working) /etc/lilo.conf: boot=/dev/hda1 root=/dev/hda1 compact install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=ask delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux image=/vmlinuz.old label=LinuxOld read-only What caused my LI was that. for some reason. I put boot=/dev/hda instead of boot=/dev/hda1. If you have the same problem, change it like the above, don't forget to run lilo again, and then reboot to see if it worked. Consult the /usr/doc/lilo/Manual.txt.gz file if the above advice does not help. Due to your large hard drive, it could also be that you have to use the linear option. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I need an HTML Editor
Bob Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is the name of the .deb file that provides the PSGMLK package? I can not find it in hamm or slink, and can't find a reference in the emacs info file. It sounds like a package I want to have available. psgml is yet another reason why emacs rules. ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-all/text/psgml_1.0.1-17.deb is one possible URL for it. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing 1.3 on IBM PS/1
Jonathan Hester [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
hda: status timeout: status=0xff { Busy }
hda: drive not ready for command
ide0: reset timeout, status=0xff
(...repeat of these three messages...)
end_request: I/O error, dev 03:00, sector 0
hda: drive not ready for command
Have you tried getting into the BIOS setup to see if it tells you
anything about the hard drive?
Bake
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Re: Again: Mouse problem running 'xbase-configure'
Tomas Petersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, when I try to configure X I get the errormsg below as soon as I move the mouse. I have a standard Microsoft mouse connected to COM1 Any ideas? I don't know what the error message really means, but I know what I would do here. I would just run xf86config, where fewer things can go wrong. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can i get this
Mario Filipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You need a newer version of makeinfo; or more to the point a newer texinfo.tex (which comes with makeinfo). I had thought that distributing a texinfo.tex which matches texi files in the same directory would be enough here... but gtk+ does supply a good one, so I guess not =(O| So where can i find these makeinfo and textinfo.tex ??? According to dpkg -S makeinfo and dpkg -S texinfo.tex we have tetex-bin: /usr/bin/makeinfo tetex-base: /usr/lib/texmf/tex/texinfo/texinfo.tex. So it looks like you need to install tetex-bin and tetex-base. I forgot whether these packages are in bo, but bo certainly does have some type of tex packages. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pon
(1) Check your /etc/ppp/peers/provider file for this line: connect /usr/sbin/chat -v -f /etc/chatscripts/provider Make sure to put the -v in there if it is not there. (2) After you run pon and it fails, examine the /var/log/syslog file. At the end of it you should see a record of the chat with your ISP. This will probably indicate the problem. Happy Linuxing, Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: after upgrading to hamm, ppp problems
Make sure that your /etc/ppp/peers/provider file contains: noauth This option tells pppd not to expect your ISP to authenticate itself to you. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where can i get this
Acording to my system it's in the package textinfo. Wich means i have to upgrade my tex packages, wich brings another question. Dselect says that the tex packages i have are obsolete. should i deinstall them and install the new ones or is there another way to do it? And don't forget... we are talking about bo I would ftp to ftp.debian.org, look for the bo/main directory, get the Packages.gz file, determine from this file which files I needed, download them from bo/main/tex, and install them. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cut and paste question
Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been using Debian for quite a while now, and was wondering what sort of support Linux/X has for cut and paste? Sure, there's the stuff with GPM where things can be cut and pasted, but it's not very universal. Could you be more specific? It always works for me everywhere I have ever tried, i.e., it seems to be at least as universal as that in MSWindows. In X it works by selecting with mouse button one (copy) and clicking mouse button two (paste). I'm afraid I really do not understand what you mean. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to upgrade from smail to exim?
Johann Spies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hallo, Why do you call that an upgrade? I have tried out exim several times without success. In my opinion smail is much easier to install and works with a lot less problems than exim. Johann. Yes, that was my experience also, but I did not give up. I am glad because exim really is clean, powerful, and logical. I would be glad to assist anyone; at the very least I can help those like our family who enjoys the built-in filtering ability of exim to split the mail from the pop-server amongst ourselves. Yes, I know procmail does that also, but I just think exim overall is the better solution. I think exim is so good that it should be the default Debian MTA. This topic would be an excellent one to debate on this list IMHO. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unidentified subject!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonathan Hester) writes: displayed by pressing F4 at the boot: prompt, the following special parameter is recommended for IBM PS/1's with IDE hard drives: hd=cylinders,heads,sectors Thus, I tried booting by typing the following at the boot: prompt - linux hd=934,16,254031 (Running Norton Disk Doctor on my hard drive provided me with these values for no. of cylinders, no. of heads, and total no. of sectors.) At least one problem here is with total no. of sectors. That should be the number of sectors in a head (i.e., much smaller number than 254031). 254031/16/934 = 16.998862419 = about 17 It looks like Norton made a mistake, but then again maybe my IDE disk knowledge leaves something to be desired. :) Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM autostart question
Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for the tip. My /etc/X11/config files ihas the following two lines in it... xdm-start-server start-xdm My guess is that the problem is in a system init file somewhere. Any idea what file calls the xdm stuff at boot time? As root, try this: /etc/init.d/xdm start The /etc/init.d/xdm can be checked for any irregularities or hints. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HELP! Installing Packages From Another Drive...
James A. Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have a 4.0 GB drive running Windows95 and a 514 MB drive with = Debian (no packages installed yet, just the base). The 514 MB is a slave = to the 4 GB. I downloaded several packages onto my Windows drive = (C:\Debian), but I haven't a clue how to get them to install into Linux. = How can I mount the drives from dselect? I'm VERY new to this so any = in-depth/detailed help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. I don't use dselect, but here is how root can mount your C: drive: mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt So at this point Linux will see your packages in the /mnt/debian directory. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was trying to compile tk3play just now and make exits with: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec 'cc1plus': No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -S cc1plus g++: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.28/cc1plus altgcc: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linuxlibc1/2.7.2.2/cc1plus checker: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linuxchecker/2.7.2.3/cc1plus g++272: /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.3/cc1plus This dpkg command tells us that you can get your missing program by installing g++, altgcc, checker, or g++272. Probably you'll want to install g++272 or g++. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi. My dpkg -S cc1plus returns that it is owned by g++, (Of which I have version 2.90.28-0.1. ), and that it lives in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/egcs-2.90.28/ I don't have any of the others though. (apt-get install g++272 says it can't find a package with that name. :(.) Thanks for noticing the reply to addr. :). Any ideas what to do now? Did you try something like this? [EMAIL PROTECTED] type g++ g++ is /usr/bin/g++ Also, maybe when you're compiling, gcc is being used and is expecting the g++272 to be installed; it is oblivious to the existence of g++. So you should either ensure that egcc is the compiler that is being used so that it will use the g++ you have installed, or ftp the latest g++272 (g++272_2.7.2.3-4.2.deb) from some place such as ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/binary-i386/devel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV
Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is why a lot of people are looking at SLP and liking it. tar xzf blah.slp There ya go, that's it, end of story. No cpio, no ar, nothing but tar which has been the standard for years and years, esp. in the Linux community as a whole. SLP is an extention of that standard. Since it is compatible with it one can, theoretically, replace TGZ with SLP. The same cannot be said about deb and rpm. So how does their package management work then? I don't understand what the disadvantage to .deb is besides that it is a new file format, especially since there are such nice tools (dpkg) with which to manipulate it. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?
new to Debian and probably Linux as well. A 'real' newsgroup would be better than a simulated one for those of us who can't/won't use something like emacs with gnus. I used to run gnus on a 486 with 8MB, so I can sympathize. And it's understandable for those you just don't like emacs. I have to admit that even though I think it's the best, there have been times when I have had to let certain aspects grow on me. But I am surely happy that I have made this choice, considering that it leads to sophisticated and powerful ways of working. Clearly the resource arguments against emacs and gnus are losing quickly in a time of rapidly falling RAM prices ( $1/MB). [snip] Finally, I wouldn't have to explicitly set the reply-to address to make sure a reply goes back to the list and not just the individual who wrote the message I'm replying to. This is yet another reason to use a good mail or news reader. Gnus has nice keystrokes ready to go: F,f,R, and r for Follow-up and quote, follow-up, Reply and quote, and reply If you want the ultimate in power and flexibility (after all, why are you using GNU/Linux in the first place?), go with gnus. Plus it will encourage you to learn emacs. Henceforth, you will be transformed. :) Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gcc broken?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sigh. All these multitudes of compilers and such are quite confusing. :). I got g++272 from slink, after which my compile worked. Thanks!. But g++272 says its for backward compatability only. Why should the newest gcc be trying to use a version of g++ which claims to only be for backward compatability? That g++272 helped you proves that gcc did your compilation, _not_ the newer gcc which is called egcc. e for experimental, I think. Supposedly it is better overall than gcc, but my limited experience is that gcc beats it on performance of compiled code. There are a couple of ways of making egcc the default. One way is to do export CC=/usr/bin/egcc at the shell prompt before you do the compilation or put it in your ~/.bashrc to have it defined every time you log in. A second way is to do su -c 'cd /usr/local/bin ; ln -s ../../bin/egcc gcc' There is probably a cleaner way, but this should work, since /usr/local/bin is usually searched for non-root users before /usr/bin. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: XDM autostart question
Doug Thistlethwaite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quick question I hope... How do I get XDM to autostart. I selected to not have it autostart during install because I was having problems with X11 in general. Please read /usr/doc/X11/README.Debian. It will tell you about what to edit in the /etc/X11/config file in order to make xdm autostart. In short, it looks like all you have to do is make sure that start-xdm is in there rather than no-start-xdm Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV
Rev. Joseph Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --oC1+HKm2/end4ao3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 12:14:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: The other data in Debian's case is stuff like dependency information, installation and removal scripts, and the maintainer's contact address. =20 Proprietary to Debian... The .deb is proprietary to Debian. =3Dp The installation and removal scri= pts Proprietary -- what in the heck could possibly be proprietary about Debian? We need to clear this confusing mess up NOW!!! Please, people, please explain what in the world you are talking about. Please explain why you say proprietary to Debian. As far as I can tell, YOU ARE NOT MAKING ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER!! (Sorry for the yelling, but this is a seriously confusing thing here!!) I have a feeling that that we had better pick different terminology here. Thank you, Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newsgroup, instead of mail list?
Given the volume of traffic on this list, I would certainly find a newsgroup more convenient. 1) it maintains threads, and thus has MUCH better organization and access. Try a threading mail reader: mutt or gnus. I use gnus and I cannot imagine anything better. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installation
It's not for everyone, but if you do not mind using a command line, you can try dpkg -i package-name.deb where package-name.deb is the file of stuff that you want to install. Look for a file called Packages.gz that contains the standard descriptions of all the .deb files you may want to install as well as the order in which to install them. You can read this file with the command zless Packages.gz I know all of this may sound a little clumsy, but if you don't mind reading the descriptions and understanding what you want, you'll end up learning a heck of a lot about what you put on your system. I've been using debian a little over three years now, and I still use dpkg. I recommend it to experts and _patient_ beginners. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dselect oddities
No autoupdating? I don't see what the problem is here: why not use dpkg? I upgrade all the time with only dpkg and I cannot imagine how it could be improved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help with X and signal 11
I have a feeling that it's your RAM. Have you tried the memtest program? I myself have been running the latest slink xfree86 with no problems whatsoever. If I were you I would try out memtest on different combinations of your SIMMs. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATAPI Tape Drives
I've been using that exact model with no problems at all. Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: exim mutt, weird
Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have exim (1.90-3) and mutt (non-i, 0.91.1-1) installed here; when I send a message, mutt sets the from address to just hamish@@. [snip] I think a better way to handle this is to let exim rewrite your headers. The following is at the end of my /etc/exim.conf: ## # REWRITE CONFIGURATION # ## ^(b3po|wwjt)@* [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ffr # End of Exim configuration file The username portion is part of a regular expression (sorry if you knew that already) that matches our local names with the pop mail name. Therefore, you would replace ^(b3po|wwjt)@* [EMAIL PROTECTED] with [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Let me know if you have any other questions. BTW, I have seen so many postings on smail. I would encourage smail users to try out exim. Not only is it more powerful, its configuration is far easier and more logical than that of smail. Thanks, Bake -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qddb or other databases
I struggled with this question for quite a while. What I wanted had to satisfy the following criteria: 1. A decent license such as GPL or BSD-style. 2. Flexible and powerful. 3. Actively developed. Only a handful of databases satisfy these criteria. IMHO, Postgresql seems to be the easiest and most mature. I use it both locally and remotely with the Roxen web server. It not only satisfies my personal database needs but also is a skill that I can market to small businesses, etc. I think the database/web server combination will explode in popularity. Sorry I cannot help you with Qddb. Is it still being actively developed? Bake -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Need reasons to GPL Haskell implementation
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.linux.advocacy as well. Hi, This is a long post, so I've divided it into sections---Preface, Request for Feedback, Consideration, Conclusion, Appendix---to help you figure out whether it's worth reading. :) TIA for any feedback and I will summarize if I get enough info. Haters and lovers alike of the GPL are invited to comment, criticize, flame, etc. I. Preface To those of you who do not know about Haskell, it is the most important purely functional programming language. Several groups worldwide are actively developing Haskell implementations. See http://haskell.org for more info, such as on the implementations: HUGS, GHC, Chalmers, NHC. Again, to those unfamiliar with functional languages, consider the place mathematics has had in advancing technology. Consider the potential for good in a programming language with an exceptionally strong mathematical basis, such as Haskell. II. Request for Feedback _Next week_ top developers (of HUGS and GHC) are meeting to consider, among many other things, whether to move to the GPL. In the Appendix is a license of one of the implementations, HUGS. I have been asked to email them reasons why a Haskell implementation should be GPLed, and I _ask you for feedback._ III. Considerations (1) An important consequence of licensing is how amenable it is to distribution, such as with the Linux distributions (RedHat, Debian, etc.). Restrictive licenses such as HUGS (see part [b] of the license) or unclear licenses (such as with the GHC implementation) result in many fewer people not enjoying and using some important software. I know that is why there is no Debian Haskell package yet. (2) Naturally, one of the top concerns of the developers is that Haskell is used as widely as possible. It seems that they do not care whether that is via the sharing that the GPL encourages or via the binary distributions that are so typical in the Windows community. In my experience, I find that most users are oblivious to licenses, though the Linux community seems to be more aware. Therefore, the GPL would be quite suitable. (3) In fact, although these implementations are available for several platforms, there seems to be quite a bias towards Windows. For example, there has been collaboration with Microsoft Research on developing a Haskell animation system (FRAN) that works (naturally) only in Windows, and while the Windows graphics interface has been actively maintained, there is none available for the X Window system. Please understand, FRAN is great stuff, and I have nothing against development for Windows---it's just a real shame that little is being done for other OSes. At the very least a GPL might encourage more development within the Linux community, for example. OTOH, developers of proprietary software (such as Microsoft) would avoid software licensed under GPL. (4) Probably (3) is motivated partly because of the ubiquity of Windows. But as a Linux user, I am deeply concerned when important research occurs with proprietary, technically inferior OSes, while free, excellent ones such as Linux and *BSD take a back seat. Please, no OS war; I just have yet to see that Windows [95 and NT] works as well or provides as much freedom or flexibility. (5) Regarding advanced languages in general, GUILE seems to be ahead as far as technical merit and licensing go, but Haskell certainly has some important advantages over Scheme. Improving the license of a Haskell implementation would make it a favorable alternative to GUILE. (6) Is there any license other than the GPL that better ensures that important software technology remains freely available? IV. Conclusion Some believe the GPL and functional languages lead to the development of good, reliable software. I feel that a GPL on this important software will (A) encourage the use and development of Haskell, and (B) help free OSes maintain a place in an important area of CS research. Now, (B) is all well and good and encourages us to care but of course is irrelevant to Haskell implementors. (A) is what I need help on. Can anyone help? V. Appendix __ ______ ______ __ __ / / / / / / / / / ___/ / ___/ Hugs 1.4 / /___/ / / / / / / / _ / /__ / / / / / / / / /_ / /__ / The Nottingham and Yale / / / / / /___/ / / /___/ / ___/ /Haskell User's System /__/ /__/ /_/ /_/ /_/ Copyright (c) The University of Nottingham and Yale University, 1994-1997. Bug reports: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.haskell.org/hugs. CONDITIONS OF USE, DUPLICATION AND DISTRIBUTION (*) Permission
Re: diald / ppp routing problems on hamm system
Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 04 Nov 1997 10:45:10 CST Ken Lauffenburger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello, I very recently upgraded my home system from bo to hamm. As soon as I installed the netbase package, diald stopped working. The PPP link would connect, but the PPP link no longer was selected as the default route. However, I could establish the link using the 'pon' command. (I was using a fairly old revision of PPP, maybe ppp_2.2.0f-23.) Yes, I experienced the same thing. Philippe's discussion of the problem is interesting, but nothing I tried on nsswitch.conf worked. My best solution so far is not that good: replace the route command with the old netbase_2.16 version. Though everything works OK now, I guess I gotta compare the route.c's to figure out the RIGHT way to do this. :) Anyway, thanks for any further tips and for making this such a great mailing list. :) Bake -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: diald / ppp routing problems on hamm system
Oops! My so-called solution has a symptom looking for a problem. From the syslog: kernel: sl0: transmit timed out, bad line quality? kernel: sl0: transmit timed out, bad line quality? last message repeated 2 times [EMAIL PROTECTED] route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 127.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 55 lo 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1 05 sl0 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
