Re: From: in mutt
On Saturday, 24 February 2001 at 19:49, Mike G wrote: Hi! anyone could help me on how to set the From: when using, or maybe in exim, I used pine before, but I like more mutt's editor :) in your .muttrc set from='John Doe [EMAIL PROTECTED]' or press escf to change your from: address in the compose menu before sending it. or set edit_headers. Also look at reverse_name :)
Is gnome-audio dead?
Hi, Before filing a bug on gnome-audio, I did what any good debian user would do and checked whether that bug had already been filed. It turns out there are four bugs filed against gnome-audio, from almost 2 years ago to about a year ago. They are all the same bug, the one I would have reported. Namely, some of the sounds which are supposed to be supplied in this package aren't. I found James' reply that these sounds don't exist in the upstream package, but I think #59699 still stands: --- It seems like the default settings shouldn't refer to files that don't exist: either leave the setting empty or add an actual sound, or at least don't suggest installing gnome-audio when I already have it installed. --- Of course I suppose that could be reported against a different package (gnome-control-center?)... I tried searching the list archives but a search I started half an hour ago has yet to complete (at http://cgi.debian.org/cgi-bin/searchlists). Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Brendan pgp531deHAkJ5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: is there a man .inputrc?
On Tuesday, 06 February 2001 at 17:09, will trillich wrote: question: where's TFM inputrc? dpkg -S inputrc -- base-files ... ? the possible options i've seen for ~/.inputrc look like there's a whole massive iceberg under there somewhere. alas, man inputrc don't say squat as to what the options are. i've found some samples Out There on the net, but surely there's some doc that hits on all the combinations? You can find a pretty good summary in bash(1) under READLINE, or run info rluserman The rluserman file comes with libreadline4.
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
On Tuesday, 23 January 2001 at 17:27, Brian May wrote: Brendan == Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brendan As far as I know they've been allowed in courier for a Brendan while. In mutt you can press enter to descend Brendan subfolders and space to open a mailbox. or maybe it's Brendan the other way around - I haven't tested this stuff too Brendan much since I wrote it a long time ago (school has been Brendan crazy). The folder browser is one of the worst parts of Brendan mutt's IMAP support, but I think it basically *works*, Brendan it's just ugly. Hmmm... Maybe I need a new version of mutt too... I can only open a mailbox here if I type in the full name. Sometimes I can browse through the folders on the imap server (by pushing buttons at random until I find something that works), but it doesn't seem to be working now. To browse, I think you should just be able to type ctab - except if you've got a mailbox with new mail filled in you'll end up tab-completing instead. To tab-complete you need to at least have the server part typed - mutt can't tab-complete hostnames. Usually this is simple since you've defined $folder to contain the hostname, so you can just tab-complete using the '=' prefix (ie c=tab) Brendan I'm planning to revisit the folder browser soon, but I'm Brendan currently having problems trying to get gdb to work with Brendan my mutt and the debian SASL packages - I think the Brendan authentication problem is more important. Ok. (reading between the lines) Does that imply you have got SASL support in courier-imap? Now that would be good... er, dunno - I'm not running courier ATM. mutt has SASL support, but apparently there's something wrong in the current version, either in mutt or the SASL package. Unfortunately I'm having problems with my debugger using a locally-built mutt against the debian SASL library: (gdb) b imap_auth_sasl Breakpoint 1 at 0x80a0b3c: file /usr/devel/cvs/guug/mutt/imap/auth_sasl.c, line 36. (gdb) r Starting program: /home/brendan/build/mutt/./mutt Cannot access memory at address 0x40017de8 (gdb) which is what I'm working on now... pgpR13Tv0qbeo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 10:28, Brian May wrote: Brendan == Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok, got it going again, Thanks. It looks like the syntax for using SSL has changed though, so I will have to lookup that again (maybe that was my problem before...). I'd recommend in 1.3 you switch to IMAP urls, in which case the syntax is imaps://host/ rather than imap://host/. But the old {host/ssl} should continue to work - it's a bug if it doesn't. Brendan (gdb) b imap_auth_sasl Breakpoint 1 at 0x80a0b3c: file Brendan /usr/devel/cvs/guug/mutt/imap/auth_sasl.c, line 36. Brendan (gdb) r Starting program: /home/brendan/build/mutt/./mutt Brendan Cannot access memory at address 0x40017de8 (gdb) Brendan which is what I'm working on now... In which case, I would start of with the bt (stack trace) command (which you may/may not already have done anyway). yeah, none too helpful: (gdb) bt #0 0x4000d114 in _dl_debug_state () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (gdb) n Single stepping until exit from function _dl_debug_state, which has no line number information. 0x4000cc89 in _dl_init () from /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (gdb) n Single stepping until exit from function _dl_init, which has no line number information. 0x401788e4 in encode_table () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) n Single stepping until exit from function encode_table, which has no line number information. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x2f in ?? () (gdb) The debugger does work for some binaries - I did a quick helloworld test. I'd guess it's a bug in dynamic linking, probably due to some difference between the machine the libraries were compiled on and my own. So I'm going to recompile the libraries named in ldd ./mutt from the debian source packages and see if that helps - then it's recompile libc and finally gdb. So it might be a little while... OTOH maybe it's because I'm using libc6-i686 - I'll try uninstalling that and see if it helps... Things used to work on my old homebrew machine, oddly now that I've fully debianised (since my hard drive crashed) I get these little glitches... -Brendan pgpt4QFMe0C9W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
On Tuesday, 23 January 2001 at 18:45, Brendan Cully wrote: Brendan (gdb) b imap_auth_sasl Breakpoint 1 at 0x80a0b3c: file Brendan /usr/devel/cvs/guug/mutt/imap/auth_sasl.c, line 36. Brendan (gdb) r Starting program: /home/brendan/build/mutt/./mutt Brendan Cannot access memory at address 0x40017de8 (gdb) Brendan which is what I'm working on now... OTOH maybe it's because I'm using libc6-i686 - I'll try uninstalling that and see if it helps... Well, that was it. Back to hacking! pgpdShjjA3lXj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
On Wednesday, 24 January 2001 at 11:09, Brian May wrote: Brendan == Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brendan I'd recommend in 1.3 you switch to IMAP urls, in which Brendan case the syntax is imaps://host/ rather than Brendan imap://host/. But the old {host/ssl} should continue to Brendan work - it's a bug if it doesn't. {host/ssl} simply beeps. neither imap://host/ or imaps://host/ work (is not a mailbox). Weird. {host}INBOX works fine. you must be running an old version. Check mutt -v. You get the version number at the top, and below you should see {+-}USE_SSL {+-}USE_SASL on the IMAP line... the URL stuff and SASL are only in the 1.3 tree. Brendan OTOH maybe it's because I'm using libc6-i686 - I'll try Brendan uninstalling that and see if it helps... Yes. I would try that. My quick'n'dirty guess is that the problem occurs inside 0x401788e4 in encode_table () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 and that the program probably crashes when it tries to return to the calling program because the return address on the stack is corrupted. yeah, probably. anyway removing libc6-i686 helps... pgpdT3PTGoxPr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
On Monday, 22 January 2001 at 18:47, Brian May wrote: Phil == Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Phil I don't know what else to say. With everything I've tried, Phil all my mail folders are shown as subfolders of INBOX until I Phil tweak the config a little (usually by going into the mail Phil client config and telling it that the mail folders are store Phil relative to INBOX.). Oh... I see: you can work around the problem by telling it to enter the INBOX folder, and display subfolders of INBOX (what is the proper way to do this in mutt?) set folder=imap://host/INBOX (or you can use {host}INBOX) should work in the 1.3 line (either woody or sid is running 1.3, right?) Anyway you can tab-complete, and just press enter on INBOX in the browser to see subfolders, if your folder happens to be imap://host/. I consider this a work around, because I assume this prevents the client from looking at other top level folders, eg. folders under the top level of shared (which is also supported by courier-imap as well as INBOX). Not really. You can just go up in the folder browser. Mutt's namespace support needs some work, so you don't currently see everything together, but all the functionality should still be there... I don't think subfolders are allowed. However, it seems to be possible with your setup, so maybe I am doing something wrong, or you have a newer version of courier-imap then me. As far as I know they've been allowed in courier for a while. In mutt you can press enter to descend subfolders and space to open a mailbox. or maybe it's the other way around - I haven't tested this stuff too much since I wrote it a long time ago (school has been crazy). The folder browser is one of the worst parts of mutt's IMAP support, but I think it basically *works*, it's just ugly. I'm planning to revisit the folder browser soon, but I'm currently having problems trying to get gdb to work with my mutt and the debian SASL packages - I think the authentication problem is more important. pgpvZzrbN0xrY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Use of TTY7-TTY12
On Friday, 15 December 2000 at 17:49, Raffaele Sandrini wrote: Hi all In the debain sytem the tty7-12 are not used by default. How can i for example use TTY10 to schow me the messages file. If i log in in an other tty and type 'tail /var/log/messages /dev/tty12' then it does show the changing of messages there but the other tty is blocked because tail is attached to the starter tty. How can i make that? Or generally: How can i detach any sort of apps from the ttys? for the particular problem you mention, you might be happier adjusting /etc/syslog.conf: daemon,kern.*;*.=info;\ mail.!info;daemon.!debug;\ *.=notice;*.=warn /dev/tty12 in general I think what you want to do is redirect stdin and stderr as well as stdout. From my inittab: 11:23:respawn:/usr/bin/gitps axf /dev/tty11 /dev/tty11 21 also there is the openvt command, so you could do something like openvt -c 12 -- tail /var/log/messages I think... I don't really ever use openvt... -- Don't make Godzilla mad!
Re: Mutt Question
On Thursday, 07 December 2000 at 19:49, Rob Hudson wrote: Hi, Is there a way to tell mutt to sort by thread mode by default (in .muttrc)? set sort=threads (and maybe you'd also like set sort_aux=date) -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpNZXRziY9s7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: program to burn .cue/.bin files on CD-ROM?
On Wednesday, 22 November 2000 at 12:25, James Moody wrote: Try cdrdao. http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/ I don't think there's a debian package of it yet. At least in woody there is: $ apt-cache show cdrdao Package: cdrdao Priority: extra Section: otherosfs Installed-Size: 1656 Maintainer: Martin Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Architecture: i386 Version: 1:1.1.4-1 Depends: gdk-imlib1 (= 1.9.8.1-1), libart2 (= 1.2.4-3), libaudiofile0, libc6 (= 2.1.94), libdb2, libesd0 (= 0.2.16) | libesd-alsa0 (= 0.2.16), libglib1.2 (= 1.2.0), libgnome32 (= 1.2.4-3), libgnomemm1.1, libgnomesupport0 (= 1.2.4-3), libgnomeui32 (= 1.2.4-3), libgtk1.2 (= 1.2.8-1), libgtkmm1.2, libsigc++0, libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2, xlib6g (= 3.3.6-4), zlib1g (= 1:1.1.3) Filename: dists/woody/main/binary-i386/otherosfs/cdrdao_1.1.4-1.deb Size: 599928 MD5sum: 6450014296b0d7d3137f884c068a0deb Description: Write audio or mixed mode CD-Rs in disk-at-once mode cdrdao creates audio or mixed mode CD-Rs in disk-at-once (DAO) mode driven by a description file. In DAO mode it is possible to create non standard track pre-gaps that have other lengths than 2 seconds and contain nonzero audio data. This is for example useful to divide live recordings into tracks where 2 second gaps would be irritating. It is also possible to create hidden tracks or track intros as found on commercial CDs. . This tool can produce audio and mixed mode CDs. -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpe5xAUnq90t.pgp Description: PGP signature
debianising DRI X source
Hi, I recently switched from my own hand-rolled X server/libs combo to Brandon's packages in Woody (because running X outside of the debian system is a real pain). Brandon's packages work great but I'm having problems with 3D on my rage 128 (flickering, no multitexture, occasional hard locks). I would like to use the DRI CVS tree for my X server, libs and modules but Brandon's package system. Vaguely I have the notion that I can use some dpkg-source trickery on a copy of the CVS tree, then use dpkg-buildpackage to create a local version of X which has all Brandon's package niceties but uses the latest 3D code. Has anyone else done this, or at least thought of it? Any advice? I'm not overly familiar with building local versions of packages, to be honest - although I've locally built glibc since I'm using kernel 2.4... Thanks, Brendan -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpZunBkzKXvK.pgp Description: PGP signature
@#@%! debian list software!
Apparently the list manager automatically forwards any mail with unsubscribe in the subject to debian-...-request now? Arrghh! please see the body of the message below, which was misrouted... - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CONFIRM u11181931135315 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have requested that the following address: snip: unsubscription details A copy of the (un)subcription request appears below. In the event that you did not send a request to (un)subscribe, the headers of the message may help you discover who sent the request. If you are unable to subscribe to our lists through this mechanism please don't hesitate to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly. Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2000 20:30:55 -0500 From: Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: [OT] getting automatically unsubscribed from debian lists Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mail-Followup-To: Debian Users debian-user@lists.debian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=f+W+jCU1fRNres8c Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.11i X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.0-test11 i686 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, it has happened a couple of times over the past several months that my mail server has, for reasons beyond my control, gone down for a few hours. Normally this wouldn't be too big a deal since I have a backup MX which queues everything for me. But this backup also sends standard sendmail warning messages to senders if it can't deliver the message to its destination after four hours. These are received by the debian list processor which then unsubscribes me from all my debian lists. So, my question is, why is this necessary? Can't these informational 'not yet delivered' messages just be ignored by the list software? Is there some way mailing-list messages can tag themselves so that the backup MX (which I don't control, btw) doesn't bother to generate these bounce messages? It's somewhat annoying, and I can't figure out why it should be necessary. Of course if the mail were genuinely bouncing it would make sense, but it's only getting queued... This has probably come up before, what's the story? Thanks, Brendan Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6Fy1OIigsijWFMDIRAsjYAJ9xr0vn9mfsSHVGLCXE+cjwEeb7zgCggfIk 5Iy+kHEhi1jdoulQzCTLPiM= =SX3H - End forwarded message - -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgp6woqR0XxHP.pgp Description: PGP signature
[OT] anyone know anything about a heimdal pam module?
Hi, In the past, when I was running MIT krb5, I played around with a couple different PAM modules (Frank Cusack's and Naomaru Itoi [sp, sorry Itoi]) with mixed results. Does anyone know 1) whether those modules build against heimdal-dev 2) whether they work 3) whether they lack that security hole where they don't verify the TGT with the local host key, so bogus decryptable TGTs can get you unauthorised login if the answer to any of these is no, I will not be crushed. I've been toying with the idea of writing my own module as an excuse to learn PAM and the heimdal interface (I have some experience with GSSAPI, but not directly with kerberos). Thanks, Brendan -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpgMlNQH9RO7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: xbase-clients_4.0.1-1_i386.deb is missing sessreg
On Sunday, 05 November 2000 at 14:55, S . Salman Ahmed wrote: It seems that xbase-clients-4.0.1 doesn't have the sessreg binary. This sessreg binary is called by the /etc/X11/wdm/Xstartup startup file: This now appears to be in the xutils package. Maybe you should try to install task-x-window-system-core, which should drag in all the needed packages. -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpDjvTydOD9D.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Mozilla and JunkBuster
On Tuesday, 31 October 2000 at 17:40, Damon Muller wrote: Hi gang, What I mean by `not working' is that lots of banner ads are getting through that shouldn't. A page (slashdot.org, for example), where logging junkbuster at level 1 (shows all objects fetched), and where all the ad URLs are followed by `crunch!' (ie., junkbuster has recognised them as an ad and replaced them with a 1x1 pixel) still show up the ads. Likewise I'm getting alerts about cookies even through I've set junkbuster to ignore all cookies. The issue seems intermitant, rather than constant. Using an older version of navigator (4.7something) to look at similar sites gives me none of these problems. I don't think it's worth including the config files, as it's working at least for one version of the browers. Anyone else experiencing similar problems, or am I just going mad? hmm, interesting. I've been getting more banners and cookies since I started using mozilla, too. I figured it was because evil web advertisers had wised up and were using javascript to do all their devilish cookie/banner code (I don't think junkbuster attempts to edit javascript). But if the old netscape is doing better, I suppose it must be something else. It might be worth trying to block outgoing access to port 80 to everything but junkbuster (not too tricky if you can run junkbuster on a different machine than your webbrowser, otherwise I don't know). Then you could see if mozilla was always using the proxy... -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpixclx8N62V.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: /usr/bin before /usr/local/bin?
On Tuesday, 31 October 2000 at 14:03, Krzys Majewski wrote: Any opinions on which should go first in the path: /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin? Arguments I can see: snip /usr/local/bin: say you compile your own gcc. This is where it goes. You may not want to remove the Debian gcc because many things depend on it, using equivs may be a pain, etc. yeah, /usr/local always goes first. If you've built something you don't want to override another program, put it somewhere else (/opt? :)) pgp8D0CK96EyC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: password protect a directory?
On Monday, 30 October 2000 at 09:00, Brian May wrote: kmself == kmself kmself@ix.netcom.com writes: kmself Where n 0 people need modification access to the same kmself data, a version control system should be implemented. RCS kmself and CVS are available on Debian and their use is fairly kmself transparent. For more complex organizations, BitKeeper is kmself a strongly recommended choice. What is BitKeeper? Is it DFSG? What are the benefits of it over CVS for more complex organisations? It's Larry McVoy's source management system, which he has been pushing on linux-kernel for quite some time, and which does sound nice. I'm not too up on either its license or DFSG, but I don't think it makes the cut (it reminded me of the original Qt license when last I looked at it, actually more restrictive than that). It's nicest feature as I recall is that it makes hierarchies of repositories possible. You don't have to have commit access on the main tree to be able to make your own branches on your tree, import other people's changes and merge changes to the master tree into your own. I always thought having only one master CVS repository was a real pain for distributed (no, I won't say bazaar... argh, I said it!) development... -Brendan -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpzYWd7wtVtw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V100 #323
On Monday, 23 October 2000 at 17:31, fraser at bydesign-elab.net wrote: take me off thsi leist snip Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null snip Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null ok. But you are not allowed to subscribe to any more mailing lists until you pass the MLCE (Mailing List Competency Examination). Good luck.
Re: Like expr, but for floating point numbers?
perl? :) or maybe bc can be convinced to take stdin/stdout... On Thursday, 28 September 2000 at 10:28, Krzys Majewski wrote: I would like to have something like expr, but not restricted to integers. For example, I have a bunch of numbers: 99 100 99 98 100 . . . and I take their average with awk. This gives me some floating point number. Now I would like to compare, in a shell script, this floating point number to some other floating point number. How do people do this? -chris pgpSooEy8GIEU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: APM: disable mouse interrupt?
On Sunday, 17 September 2000 at 14:31, Krzys Majewski wrote: How can I disable the mouse interrupt for APM so that moving the mouse does not resume the machine? (The mouse is on my desk, there are other things on my desk, some of these things move occasionally, etc.) I tried disabling IRQ4 in the apm section of the bios setup, which I *think* is my mouse interrupt because 14:29:24~$ setserial /dev/ttyS0 /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4 and because 14:29:25~$ ls -la /dev/mouse lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Aug 30 15:54 /dev/mouse - gpmdata 14:29:50~$ ls -la /dev/modem lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 27 06:20 /dev/modem - /dev/ttyS1 but no go. Then again, /proc/interrupts says: 12: 130888 XT-PIC PS/2 Mouse Note that 12 != 4. WTF? -chris you have a PS/2 mouse, and it's on interrupt 12. Try disabling that. /dev/mouse indicates that you're providing your mouse to X via gpm, so you'd have to check your gpm config to see what it thinks is your mouse (see /etc/gpm.conf). Having your modem on ttyS1 probably means nothing. -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgplYlC2uuMFn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: matroxfb.o module
On Saturday, 09 September 2000 at 16:02, Parrish M Myers wrote: Hi, Does anyone know how to pass the video=... argument to the matroxfb module? I have tried the following: options matroxfb video=matrox:vesa:0x1BB and then some variations of that. Every time I try to do this the matroxfb module complains that param_video is a non-valid argument. Does anyone know how to do this properly? a quick look at /usr/src/linux/drivers/matrox/matroxfb_base.c (in 2.4.0-test8) indicates you should be able to do: options matroxfb vesa=0x1BB I am assuming I can't send the 'video=...' line by means of lilo because the matroxfb is a module and not compiled into the kernel. right. -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgp4R711bMcY5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To still broken in mutt/exim
On Tuesday, 05 September 2000 at 12:20, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:25:55PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote: BTW: your Mail-Followup-To is still broken: user `karsten' does not exist on my system. I've been trying to address this, am somewhat stymied by my own inexperience in the area. snip exim config I also tried looking at mail headers when responding to list mail. The Mail-Followup-To: header appears to be added after the user sends an item. I could hardcode in my own MFT header within my .muttrc, but what I'd prefer to specify is followups to list only, and only include this header in response to list mails. My understanding is that if I add a my_hdr specification I'll be adding the header to all email I send, and it *won't* specify the list I want to respond to, but merely my own (hopefully correct) address. Manually typing the header in for all mail would be...tedious. Disabling the header entirely might be preferable. Anyone have a suggestion for this? 1. you can disable MFT entirely in mutt by unsetting $followup_to 2. it should only be added when sending mail to lists mentioned in subscribe lines in your mutt config 3. I believe it is created based on the value of your $from variable. Try setting $from to a valid e-mail address. $from also works better with $alternates and $reverse_name, so you should be using it anyway. -Brendan -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpbL7N4h5rYn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To still broken in mutt/exim
On Tuesday, 05 September 2000 at 15:38, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 04:32:21PM -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: 1. you can disable MFT entirely in mutt by unsetting $followup_to 2. it should only be added when sending mail to lists mentioned in subscribe lines in your mutt config 3. I believe it is created based on the value of your $from variable. Try setting $from to a valid e-mail address. $from also works better with $alternates and $reverse_name, so you should be using it anyway. 'karsten' is a valid email address on my host. It's not on the Internet. I'm a bit stumped as to why exim rewriting isn't working. so use your internet address. exim probably has no interest in non-standard headers like MFT. Also, as I read the mutt manual, my own address *shouldn't* be added to the Mail_Followup_To: header: if the ``$followup_to'' option is set, mutt will generate a Mail-Followup-To header which contains all the recipients to whom you send this message, but not your address. ...unless there's a way to specify that 'karsten' is in fact my addressReading through the manual some more, there's some cool stuff in it ;-) mutt strips out the names it recognises as yours from the MFT header. That is one reason why you should set $from to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why don't you want to set $from? -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpKLZwi7gtvd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mail-Followup-To still broken in mutt/exim
On Tuesday, 05 September 2000 at 18:58, kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 07:22:31PM -0400, Brendan Cully ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 'karsten' is a valid email address on my host. It's not on the Internet. I'm a bit stumped as to why exim rewriting isn't working. so use your internet address. exim probably has no interest in non-standard headers like MFT. This should be tunable behavior. Nonconfigurable interference or nonconfigurable ignoring of headers is bad. Choice is good. mutt strips out the names it recognises as yours from the MFT header. That is one reason why you should set $from to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why don't you want to set $from? Because it breaks local mail if my internet connection is fscked. It makes my internal network dependent on external connections and servers. I'm looking at a send-hook to set $from conditionally. I'd prefer an exim solution. There are probably quite a lot of hacks you could use to get kmself to work with local mail. maybe you could get exim to rewrite in the other direction, from kmself@ix.netcom.com to karsten. Your MFT header will still not get rewritten, but on the other hand it won't be set (unless you're subscribed to some mailing lists running from your own machine). I'm surprised you're sending so much mail to your own machine with mutt, though... -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpSA8IYi9rgT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: procmail receipes
On Friday, 25 August 2000 at 03:17, John Bacalle wrote: Since you're talking about procmail, how would you do something like the following? :0: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] IN.debian This is schematic, of course; how to do properly and succinctly? Here's mine: :0: * ^Resent-(From|To): debian- Lists/debian -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpZDw5fs8s1t.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Linux Mail Client
On Thursday, 24 August 2000 at 13:01, Steve Lamb wrote: Hash: SHA1 Thursday, August 24, 2000, 12:45:11 PM, Daniel wrote: Don't you guys think you have beaten this thing into the ground. Enough already. Give it a rest. I don't think you are ever going to get through to Mr. Lamb. If you are that unhappy about mail on UNIX/Linux do something about it otherwise give my inbox a rest, eh. Well, in the fine Unix tradition you could always just insert a filter into procmail or exim for me and that would take care of it nicely. I'm sure that is what everyone else would advocate if they really were fair about their stance of make it do what you want. oh, alright. if that's the only way to end this tirade. Of course I still have to filter through all the replies. You're really making me work too hard if you want me to filter out any thread you may happen to be poisoning... *plonk* -- Don't make Godzilla mad!
Re: Linux Mail Client (was: Re: Web browsers for Linux (was: Re: Netscape Bus Error))
Of course you could also use fetchmail's mda option to make an account be delivered to an arbitrary file. But you probably don't care about that. What I've learned from this long and silly thread is there are plenty of ways to receive mail from several accounts and keep them separated, but none that you like. Too bad. On Tuesday, 22 August 2000 at 00:54, Steve Lamb wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 05:46:00PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .fetchmailrc can have: [] user x is mark here [] user y is julie here Requires a local account for what really isn't a separate account on the local machine. This is a piss-poor hack. Alternatively, if you don't want separate acounts for work / home, you can use an exim .forward file to filter and save your home stuff to a seperate mailbox file and mutt -f the file. Alternatively... I have already addressed this in this thread. IE, dumping all mail into a single account and then filtering out from there. This is not acceptable. Again, a hack to the extreme. -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgphjnwBjCXTu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for..
On Sunday, 20 August 2000 at 13:48, hogan wrote: Looking for Debian package which would contain necessary files + documentation for C fork() and pipe() functions if indeed they're available.. manpages-dev -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpbNU8tkhLDs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mozilla M-17
On Friday, 18 August 2000 at 22:12, Michael Soulier wrote: So I upgraded mozilla to M-17, and all it does is segfault. Has anyone had any luck with this package? IWFM. Did you remove your old .mozilla directory before starting? -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpTIVvgumkPN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hardware Modems
On Saturday, 19 August 2000 at 11:34, Jack Morgan wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Cliff Wise wrote: An oxymoron is an element in classical rhetoric in which opposites are combined to sharpen a point, not to contradict it. An example would be *His impassioned plea was met by thunderous silence*. Giant shrimp probably exist as does the oft quoted non-oxymoron military intelligence. computer genius :-) on-topic debian-user post :) -- Don't make Godzilla mad! pgpt5jvMPjySW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Dvorak keyboard layout
On Saturday, 29 July 2000 at 21:19, John S. J. Anderson wrote: Owen == Owen G Emry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Owen Can someone tell me how to switch to the Dvorak keyboard layout? Owen I dimly recall the debian boot diskette asking to choose a Owen keyboard layout, but I don't know how to change it on an Owen installed system. The answers from others should work for console, but if you need to do this under X, you need to use xmodmap to remap the keys. I've got a xmodmap file to do this; mail me if you'd like it. or, in the new style, setxkbmap dvorak. Of course in 3.3.6 this requires a little tomfoolery with xkb/rules/xfree86 if you happen to be using, say, the pc104 keyboard... -Brendan pgp228Ublpj3r.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: keeping track of used IRQs?
On Thursday, 13 July 2000 at 10:31, Krzys Majewski wrote: How can I keep track of the IRQs that different devices use? Is there a utility for this? -chris I guess you want something more than cat /proc/interrupts or lspci -v ? -- was ist los? bist du krank? pgp5pJt9HUUAN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: woody man segfaults when run as root
On Tuesday, 04 July 2000 at 20:21, Brendan Cully wrote: Hi all, I noticed that my up-to-date woody system (plus helixcode) has a man which segfaults when run as root, but works perfectly as an ordinary user. Anyone else seen this? man-db 2.3.17-1 libc6 2.1.3-10 libdb2 2.7.7-2 to follow up on my own post - the problem was in /etc/nsswitch.conf. Apparently passwd and group need to be set to compat. I had db files, presumably hanging about from before I debianised my system. anyone know what is going on here, though? Thanks, Brendan -- was ist los? bist du krank? pgpDLun5ohchj.pgp Description: PGP signature
woody man segfaults when run as root
Hi all, I noticed that my up-to-date woody system (plus helixcode) has a man which segfaults when run as root, but works perfectly as an ordinary user. Anyone else seen this? man-db 2.3.17-1 libc6 2.1.3-10 libdb2 2.7.7-2 thanks, Brendan -- was ist los? bist du krank? pgpTwE5QhaAPc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and courier-imapd
On Sunday, 30 April 2000 at 11:11, Brian May wrote: Brendan == Brendan Cully [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Brendan There is a small bug in courier currently which chokes Brendan mutt. I've attached a workaround patch against mutt Brendan 1.1.12 (should apply to earlier versions) which I'd love Brendan people to test - we're trying to get mutt 1.2 out the Brendan door soon. So if it works and in particular if it doesn't Brendan work, please let me know. Are there any plans to fix the bug in courier-imap? I forwarded a bug report to Sam, who says he is looking at it. So, I think it will be fixed. -Brendan pgpmMXfFC1GuS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Installing potato with a 3c905
Hi, I'm trying to install potato from boot floppies and I've run into a stupid problem: I've got a 3c905 on the target machine, but I can't seem to find the module in drivers.tgz. Anyone know where I can get it? I'm trying to install via ftp, so I need it early in the process. Thanks, Brendan pgpgSH3orAalB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing potato with a 3c905
forget it. I didn't notice it was _compiled in_. The shame. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth (again). -Brendan On Saturday, 29 April 2000 at 22:30, Brendan Cully wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install potato from boot floppies and I've run into a stupid problem: I've got a 3c905 on the target machine, but I can't seem to find the module in drivers.tgz. Anyone know where I can get it? I'm trying to install via ftp, so I need it early in the process. Thanks, Brendan pgp93GwgVB0Bf.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Installing potato with a 3c905
it's in 3c59x. I'm multitasking, forgive me. On Saturday, 29 April 2000 at 22:45, Brendan Cully wrote: forget it. I didn't notice it was _compiled in_. The shame. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth (again). -Brendan On Saturday, 29 April 2000 at 22:30, Brendan Cully wrote: Hi, I'm trying to install potato from boot floppies and I've run into a stupid problem: I've got a 3c905 on the target machine, but I can't seem to find the module in drivers.tgz. Anyone know where I can get it? I'm trying to install via ftp, so I need it early in the process. Thanks, Brendan pgpyChVZ1HvyH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: mutt and courier-imapd
On Sunday, 16 April 2000 at 03:05, Eric Gillespie, Jr. wrote: I'm trying to use courier-imapd with SSL and mutt, but they don't seem to get along very well. Sometimes, mutt displays no subject, no author, and a 0 message size. Other times, it displays the information from the wrong message. Other times, it gets everything correct. There is a small bug in courier currently which chokes mutt. I've attached a workaround patch against mutt 1.1.12 (should apply to earlier versions) which I'd love people to test - we're trying to get mutt 1.2 out the door soon. So if it works and in particular if it doesn't work, please let me know. Thanks, Brendan Index: imap/message.c === RCS file: /home/roessler/cvsroot/mutt/imap/message.c,v retrieving revision 1.23 diff -u -r1.23 message.c --- imap/message.c 2000/04/24 13:09:33 1.23 +++ imap/message.c 2000/04/29 18:19:26 @@ -56,6 +56,8 @@ IMAP_HEADER *h, *h0; const char *want_headers = DATE FROM SUBJECT TO CC MESSAGE-ID REFERENCES CONTENT-TYPE IN-REPLY-TO REPLY-TO LINES; int using_body_peek = 0; + int c; + fetchlast = 0; /* define search string */ @@ -255,6 +257,15 @@ h = h-next; /* hdata is freed later */ safe_free ((void **) h0); + +/* + * skip over additional \n characters - Courier IMAP seems to + * put them here. + */ + +while ((c = fgetc (fp)) == '\n') + ; +ungetc (c, fp); } fclose(fp); pgpOax7TkHAnB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)
On Saturday, 08 April 2000 at 01:07, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: Brendan Cully wrote: - Can Mutt automatically move incoming mail into different folders? sort of. usually that's done with procmail. but you could probably use the push command and folder hooks to move things when you open your spool. I personally use procmail on my IMAP server. Ahh, this I don't quite understand. I always donwloaded my mail from a POP3 server, and then had Netscape sort it into various inboxes. I thought, that I would now use fetchmail to get my mail from the POP3 server (actually from more than one) and have it all appended to my mailbox in /var/spool/mail and the MUA would then process it appropriatly. So where does procmail come into the game? either your MTA calls it to do local mail delivery after fetchmail hands off its messages to it, or fetchmail can run it directly with, IIRC, the mda option. I think debian may use procmail automatically for at least some MTAs, so you could try just creating a .procmailrc to see if it works. Otherwise you can use a .forward which pushes things through procmail... I'm no procmail expert, though.
Re: Mutt questions (Was: Looking for a good mail program)
On Thursday, 06 April 2000 at 01:02, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: My question are: - Does Mutt support hierarchical folders? E.g. I want to have a folder called Mailing Lists with individual subfolders for each mailing list and a folder called Friends with individual subfolders for each person. yes. - Can Mutt automatically move incoming mail into different folders? sort of. usually that's done with procmail. but you could probably use the push command and folder hooks to move things when you open your spool. I personally use procmail on my IMAP server. - Can I share Mutt's mail files with another mail program, so I could use a GUI program when under X? Would that be wise? mutt supports a few different standard mailbox types, so it shouldn't be hard to coexist with other unix standard mailers. -Brendan pgpLpiyAnAuz4.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Looking for a good mail program
On Wednesday, 05 April 2000 at 18:18, Hilary Hertzoff wrote: As a rule I'm very happy reading my mail in Pine through a shell account. However occasionally I receive an attachment that I need to use another program to view. Can somebody recommend a good mail program similar to pine that can handle attachments? I don't want anything too fancy. you want mutt! mime attachment handling is one of its trademark features (pgp/gpg integration is probably the other one it's most famous for). Plus it has configurable colouring and excellent sorting/threading (and lots more). it probably resembles elm more than pine, but shouldn't be too confusing for you. in fact I believe there is a pine-emulating configuration file floating around... Also do I need a separate program to fetch my mail off the server and if so which do you recommend? depends. mutt has some limited builtin POP support, but it'd be better to use fetchmail. If you want to use IMAP, mutt supports that too, and as of the upcoming 1.2 release should do it rather well (I'm biased, since I've written most of the new IMAP code). Having all of the software available in the Debian distribution is lovely but I'm finding it difficult to choose from several different programs that do the same thing, especially since the names don't usually mean anything to me. most of the time, the names are deliberately meaningless. you can really only experiment or get other's opinions. that's hacker culture for you. -Brendan pgp6xmhYaMF73.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
On Sunday, 02 April 2000 at 17:13, Hans wrote: I'm trying to get this bash script working which converts filenames from UPPER to lowercase. for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; It comes back with 'when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory.' I thought this was a loop, so how come it moves multiple files? Any ideas how to get this working? tnx --hans two things, I think. First, you need backticks but you are using single quotes. Second, I think you need a space between the two ranges in tr: for x in *; do mv $x `echo $x|tr [A-Z] [a-z]`; done; -Brendan
Re: HELP: debian IMAP client with non-kerberos encrypting authentication?
On Friday, 25 February 2000 at 21:41, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for IMAP server/client, allowing for safe authentication (no plain text password transfer). The imap/fetchmail set requires installation of the whole kerberos suite, which is very big trouble... :-(. fetchmail/uw-imap/cyrus all support CRAM-MD5, as do current mutt versions. It's like APOP, and may suit your needs. Otherwise, you may wish to consider tunneling over ssh or stunnel. -Brendan pgpSGuON0FFTL.pgp Description: PGP signature
debconf: Dialog front end failed to initialise
Hi, sorry if I missed this thread. All packages in potato that use debconf now give me this message when I upgrade: debconf: failed to initialize Dialog frontend debconf: falling back to Text frontend furthermore they don't seem to fall back to text, they just move on. I've tried dpkg-reconfigure debconf, with the same results, and also dpkg-reconfigure -fText debconf. The latter command just completes, without errors, but without letting me reconfigure. Any hints? Thanks, Brendan pgp8nPWYVQ8OY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pronunciation of daemon
On Tuesday, 25 January 2000 at 16:47, Pollywog wrote: On 25-Jan-2000 Brian J. Stults wrote: Silly, but... How do you pronounce daemon? I thought it was pronounced day-mun, but an online dictionary I checked said it had the same pronunciation as demon. I pronounce it demon but I have heard a few people pronounce it day-mun. Since they also say Lie-nucks, I went with demon. :) Both of those are legitimate, if old-fashioned, pronunciations. People who pronounce it Lie-nucks have probably just been using it since before the Great Pronunciation Controversy...