Re: Internal server error 500 for bugs.debian.org pkgreport of apt-listchanges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2021-08-14 at 22:42 -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote: > Would Developers *very recently* flipping the release switch for > buster/bullseye/bookworm affect that? > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2021/08/msg1.html > > Maybe the site wide adjustment hasn't caught up yet or something? > > Or not... :) > > Cindy :) That's quite possible. I wanted to make others aware in case it is a potential problem. If this is typical of previous releases, please ignore. - -- Best regards, Brian T. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJHBAEBCgAxFiEE9fpVo96/flopdKOfgw2Ncu3Nhn0FAmEYgM0THGJyaWFuQGhh c2h2YXVsdC5pbwAKCRCDDY1y7c2GfeLvEACfRU7lufxq64NzYMSYPPKDID4DD2iO gv5NfnQACYaRTwQ9/rYr65rz2G8s37An3HhE9e6cPjQTYC2hAkdYUThvcV3hKQD1 UauaIzuu5ZOLTpUb72xnXP/H8ZsDp1TC9xDhLab6PK9O+ZLs7ryiavT6PweWcovK l3lvr4Mi0wLCZCjCTih0ZSMGPqMuedCjJ0ekU4wz9URudgdjy3jYo4hOJFogwbyG Ehc0NuvEx0S10FGBpdDhS8t2doFKUvA36GMfOyo5Vb9EJSNf+XcsQxkJGnzVs+P2 QgePPAIuG2pW+osTkiea1nURALH6x1KwPxG6Jju4DDMnH1ofUfbxDxiLJXAnKZ9m LWmqRpFhKoOsJlHQUezjbhi2os3u4oIGqyEvNmJfQFp2w9k0k0D6fc0ifoh5uI4j mCFUN9lC+DQSgZuf/HBptrypGpJGUK85Fibtg6AQUxCAnbySjedFWT0S/xVZ7bjs D9qH/0w2AMRz74dZJhbXrawzvCwhsW7EOGCM6JSDLrBxW3aZSwv0h1UK0O21mXL7 kUFFm8E+KwyUZu74vqu/dsCyWlL/aTE0EFHndwukNMaBQk3zLqgAcvogCkin669r 5J6FG95YKL2+18sdq6OecVlBi+g0JZdvWn8f6k7I1uHJGDiUzPMbl8M1oMBT21+h h+g0kz7EVXS/iQ== =SyCw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Internal server error 500 for bugs.debian.org pkgreport of apt-listchanges
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello everyone, I'm getting a 500 error when trying to access the apt-listchanges, apt, and apt-listdifferences pkgreports on bugs.debian.org. It looks like there is a problem with all of the pkgreports. Here is one of the URLs: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=yes&src=apt Was there some maintenance that I am unaware of? - -- Best regards, Brian T. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJHBAEBCgAxFiEE9fpVo96/flopdKOfgw2Ncu3Nhn0FAmEYe3MTHGJyaWFuQGhh c2h2YXVsdC5pbwAKCRCDDY1y7c2GfdtWD/901+eUW+9R/oXN581fjs6dC2PQv2L4 0SrwtrT+N6/Vb8tLWPAEGQMB6PLFFUMaO/hrSlJl0xhsXx1GVHyZDBP98z0zBXkS +5Dpyd7GXztkSdVqUu2NHYs5WWGs4oQhTqnoek3VN393FX2hEj0IYbyvljOl71PR D1H+dOp5ztCiggSyBEpCFRCOIFQjcqDxa/4bjRV2pRE12kz+BOHd/oKz5kwYR/w1 k9n3oN8lBYDCQUyj7fZ4ITFTGcJhWZpOUB0vljk0qBJd73AGGjUfN0A0vcz+aP5i JRyvZAe8D4q66gnTBTwfcoYrQd6on4nOq7JWUs/7zpwAf/4vVW0lll74iRRPkaQh 03s/MY0R6nBUXShcTQBpHsdwK9nsTULBNCxFQAA35oAWVxQBap+77FzNem8zvIT9 8tKa3RDkIdltGtQZJKK8rl4wxb9Rt9r6k5dfcudfm9ZHNG5NxdIlrAFhDmRZqCed irquSzI3m6OBLvgewE3JzjCqYH0SKA1ps4P3ieizzpYdOA1BFEdhBnz/5cIvIv6b LlELsueICAU0WoO3BeTTDQnR0gWlQEPR7WBFnYuJdgZn43c4e8KSedcGYpxTVUjk hdMnXrDACV5XZEUiDD2FEWl7Ceu4Gwj5q35myqrz/2xdC0xwpmoMX3P7dgB2wqVe 4NtuddECNIA9LQ== =WbLg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: On improving mailing list [was: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian]
On 0808, Andy Smith wrote: >On Sun, Aug 08, 2021 at 11:35:15AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> any ideas on how to make the situation better? > >To be honest I don't think that mailing lists are a very good venue >for user support and I would these days prefer to direct people to a >Stack Overflow-like site. The chief advantages of such sites are >that posted problems are narrowed down to contain the required >information, and answers are ranked so as to make poor answers (and >ultimately, disruptive posters) disappear. Ask Ubuntu. I think, >works well. > >There have been a few attempts to set up such sites for Debian, so >that people could be directed to a site running on DFSG-free >software instead of proprietary platforms like Stack Overflow. Sadly >each of these efforts have foundered through lack of use. > >I don't see the lack of use as an indictment of their effectiveness; >rather I think it's just because it's too hard to change the status >quo without significant work. > >The previous attempts have sort of started as an announcement that >such a site is available, but not followed up by any level of >advertising on Debian's web site. The announcement threads on the >mailing lists then got dominated by arguments from the same small >group of people loudly and repeatedly arguing how they would never >use or support such a thing. That's fine, but without a way to >continually advertise a site as a support venue, it will not get >used. There is also a free version of StackOverflow Teams which we could use a pilot to see if it is effective. Honestly, I'm not sure that would be very effective to begin with given that the free version probably limits the number of users. We could also bake a Debian-tailored support site from scratch. I do believe that the majority of users are more self-sufficient than in most communities, but I do see the value of a proper support channel. >If we have to continue using a mailing list for user support then my >best suggestion would be to severely tighten up the on-topic >requirements so that every post must be about use of Debian, and >giving time-outs to posters who repeatedly can't stick to this. I think this is much-overdo change. >We can try to self-moderate by asking ourselves, "does my reply help >the poster? Does it belong on debian-user?" Unfortunately for some >the mind set is, "I'm a user of Debian so any opinion I wish to post >is on-topic on debian-user". I appreciate I have also failed at this >from time to time and I include myself in the list of those who >should do better. Ways of making us do better are needed. I have also failed to respect these guidelines, including very recently. The mailing list has morphed into a niche Debian community that is very noisy and has a high volume of inappropriate behavior. In part, I think that is because the mailing list itself breeds contempt and animosity towards people who you don't agree with. It also seems like a good number of participants just use it as a grounds to vent their frustrations, which isn't acceptable either. All-in-all there is no excuse for such behavior. Let's remain professional! -- Best regards, Brian T signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sun, 2021-08-08 at 07:57 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 05:08:18PM -0500, Brian Thompson wrote: > > [...] > > > The debian-user mailing list is a joke [...] > > You would expect some conflict in such a big community. > Nevertheless, what you're doing here doesn't help in any > way, I fear. > > Perhaps you don't care, but then... why are you here at > all? > > Your post is, in some tragic way, self-referential. Not > that I think you have any bad intentions, mind you. But > it makes me sad. > > Cheers > - t Sure, I don't disagree with you that my email doesn't contribute to the problem. However, I rarely post on this mailing list and mostly just read it. There are others who contribute far more on a daily basis to the problem that you fear than I have contributed in all my tenure on this mailing list. That doesn't justify my original message, but there are far greater problems than the act of satirically pointing out the problem. - -- Best regards, Brian T. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJHBAEBCgAxFiEE9fpVo96/flopdKOfgw2Ncu3Nhn0FAmEPgb8THGJyaWFuQGhh c2h2YXVsdC5pbwAKCRCDDY1y7c2GfdgGEACJA0xy6/gs1P2fNZ+iCoImkYnJQX0G D6O7yBDBKpi8/4LH24kCS3UQ34NnIB+bP2toXRzra1gITSNHhFRYk6En1MRZEdHc YP8QOHcWZO7XaE8dOKWe1qEbdufpZlIA+eYvxvy39pMaqwBQbK907hz3wu6CV7LB T+p7Thhz5K2b8upy8C8wmGh7fAcmRc7S+coxh15CXcJSRHBhMvGiNUhZ9hDxzpL1 tyCx2L8jpNZNbH/CJACUaP7huteRu3ynOQjNv1HTY6AsY+O6N1jz1vJ3BAWRZZzH 1PYlfuxuRnV/Dk+wxRwCt/mpqAZ//Pgv/TMzgJ0koWmUha5hN4r0Xn0kSBQJMs6b oFVyuEfueCZ4S40wB6vagt4Z9IbntDPn+2mNzyqYxG/MV+65n6EWQO0t/aEeR1f9 dz+hnj8aVZbIrtfGKiEYzPyhSdY2k6kywjI2rlpdlRxLaMeJjAGt4PCQL0MNipf1 Nh+yeOzU+dGwHw9wKFlHwuAbF6BTaiZA29+lNfZwGNLkE4JolLEEnjwSAQITtqft lK0lgj8xvwWqr3smdp4kvP1e/2aaQvZUmH2lZMIPt4bZt1Jl9i2JOTKao5MP/A85 UMACP9p7OA1z0GK8rAzZSayDw9vTnjSJoBChwFuz+5g1d8DhznCFUU6GTlYQ50sk D53g6NQ5le21DQ== =lHt/ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: How to Boot Linux ISO Images Directly From Your Hard Drive Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, 2021-08-07 at 23:01 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Sat 07 Aug 2021 at 23:24:31 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 07, 2021 at 02:26:41PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > Accusing people of trolling is generally not helpful in any way. > > > > I totally agree. And I'm a bit horrified by the hostility shown > > towards the OP by some. > > There wasn't any hostility shown to the OP of this thread. He was > collateral damage. You can thank didier gaumet and his baseless > accusation for that. > > Apology, I hear you ask? Don't hold your breath. > The debian-user mailing list is a joke. I don't want to say its main users are people looking for an e-peen ego boost, but there are quite a few arrogant and self-righteous individuals that make almost any civil discussion turn hostile. It's amusing to watch as much as it is sad. - -- Best regards, Brian T. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJHBAEBCgAxFiEE9fpVo96/flopdKOfgw2Ncu3Nhn0FAmEPBFITHGJyaWFuQGhh c2h2YXVsdC5pbwAKCRCDDY1y7c2GfZZVD/9X925byB6ypHfyzd9oCw+CjMGojSOb nF9mphf0x8Se/r0PfkKrKnqd6oD79TtSyJTFjUou8OxCwkYC0So1HOgNECDXoRat R0CXv5CCh5EYSyS8ClwWPWJrH4mL67RxdDVKNAtUuHtjYbRTjY8M3v9rGZyffgit vEFip3o61YibZ2psmnfZz0iJLcViQmixMPNJ5KH2Lk/TvqKk1X08mvjuVvyNOuNO v03mB87P1ls4cGDy9UsUfUjTrpyHXipjErzr+aEAa5kv3lLQVDYjBFU8NkS4arTM rARkdx1Pxw/SsQLCR90yLo/fd7co/mxFz5wntnKl/TdvX1jWK+/qHAsx2qBIALA5 hn6ED5fHqn04jZ7P0ip5BNEob/v+teDTuNUJcgUH4+qafsn7QMqvIRbS5dJTDksb JZqC5SNMJHmjYW51iFpRyan7rhCwEGgjbSAh7kDDut1WUgCuE80EFf8wh1iJnH7l zaVrPIMXyCqQkPNwgFwiWtoKF7o7bnAMgIsXkK2+BN8g+GyUZ+7ZFZQYsdrCtZ7S nV9L0XhdPvVa2eb+UPqLBiIzMZXpqXqeBD1A9BbV1HNxUW9J9kHpm7BVIKbSK/sQ Iez81weVuYCUaXip0uaWDsejRsZiZQtzpdbF48zIHy5pl9luxXw8JQ8VWzCVBud7 0n1evAer6HFG9A== =GzHo -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Working for free [was: Offensive variable names]
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 08:01:58AM -0400, Celejar wrote: >If you maintain a local copy of your code and just push it to Github >for serving it publicly (which is what I do, and what I assume most >developers do), you haven't lost control of your code - if / when the >host does anything you don't like, you take the existing code and make >it available elsewhere, and stop posting future code to the offending >service. (It'll still have a copy of any existing code, of course - but >that's inevitable with FLOSS software regardless of where you host it.) Agreed. Plus, as long as you have a proper license, like GPLv3, then you should be good to host your code on a provider like GitHub, or at least use that host as a mirror. -- Best regards, Brian T Coronavirus is a scam. 9/11 was an inside job. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]
On 0713, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: >and I feel annoyed by the size of your belly >button, you seem pretty much thinking life is centered around yourself. That's a funny statement coming from you. >Don't want to be a dream breaker but it's not the case, same as the way >America's empire is going down and raging war like all declining empire, >your dream is over. And I'm the psychopath. :D -- Best regards, Brian T Coronavirus is a scam. 9/11 was an inside job. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]
On 0713, Borden wrote: > "I don't care what anybody else's experience is," which is the > reasoning of antisocial personality disorders (per the DSM). Didn't know you were a doctor. Good one there. -- Best regards, Brian T Coronavirus is a scam. 9/11 was an inside job. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 06:55:30PM +, Gregory McPherran wrote: >Is one of"http://security.debian.org/debian-security";or >"http://security.debian.org"; the correct format ? > >Or is the "debian-security" portion optional ? I don't think `debian-security` in the URL suffix is optional. Use the former instead of the latter and set the suite to `bullseye-security` as well. -- Best regards, Brian T Coronavirus is a scam. 9/11 was an inside job. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:45:51PM +0200, Alexandre Garreau wrote: > >I think it is bad policy of morally judging the frustration, anger or tone >of people because of their oppressors. Oppression has come a long weigh. Apparently, in my country, it is considered oppressive to be a minority who leeches off of the government and hard-working taxpayers (who, btw, have never seen a positive return on their federal taxes) and contributing nothing to society. Oppression has come a long way from 1912... At least the only countries (that we know about) with concentration camps is China and NK, but hey, genocide is not oppressive at all in 2021. -- Best regards, Brian T Coronavirus is a scam. 9/11 was an inside job. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]
On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 08:25:22PM +, ghe2001 wrote: >Master/slave my be less than optimal when describing humans, but they're very >useful when working with DNS. > >And blacklist is useful in SMTP, among others. IIRC, the word refers to >voting in classical Athens, not humans. > >Offensive terms should, of course, be removed from public discourse, but >programmers are free to use any string they want to name a variable in their >code -- especially when released compiled. ^ This. I concur 100%. Politically correct language, or politics in general, have no place in software. -- Best regards, Brian T Coronavirus is a scam. 9/11 was an inside job. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Offensive variable names [was: Cool down ...]
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 05:39:43PM +0300, Kevin N. wrote: >>Right, and I myself have lodged a ticket to ban bar after foo because it >>might lead to blithe attitudes concerning alcohol in our vulnerable >>youth. > >Don't get me wrong: like many other things, offensive languages is a serious >one. >But, instead of helping, I think that you are in fact minimizing its gravity >with such exaggerated actions. It's only offensive to the people who are offended. Theoretically all words are offensive since any word can be offensive to anyone just because they deem it so. Censoring (i.e. changing the language) of everything to appease everyone 1) isn't possible, 2) is foolish at best, 3) is a waste of everyone's time, and 4) creates a power hungry mob of zealots looking to dismantle any word they deem offensive (e.g. paper machete). It's amazing how many people have bought into the corporatization of the$ Internet.$ --~$ Best regards,$ Brian T$ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Un/Safe mixtures for Debian releases and suites [was: Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT]
Thank you for the detailed response, Andrei. On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 21:18 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Testing doesn't have any direct security support Is that 100% true? I was originally referring to http://security.debian.org/debian-security/dists/testing-security when I was talking about "testing security updates". I understand that most mirrors don't contain this suite, but it seems to be working pretty well along with the "main" mirror I am using for testing updates (i.e. one that is closer in proximity). Perhaps mixing mirrors is a bad practice, but I haven't run into any issues for the past week since I started using this apt configuration. > > > I wanted to do the same thing with getting testing security updates into > > unstable, but I didn't think that was wise (plus it's the other way > > direction). > > It's unclear to me what exactly you meant with this, but I think I > addressed it above anyway. Yes, you did. Plus it wouldn't make sense to pull the testing-security suite I mentioned above into unstable, would it? -- Best regards, Brian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Didn't mean to derail (Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT)
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 14:57 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: > > This is not the point of the OP message, so let's not derail I apologize for accidentally derailing. I should have started a new thread. I'm still relatively new to the Debian community. -- Best regards, Brian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Vulkan with Radeon RX 5700 XT
On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 13:43 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: > Hi, Debian unstable with bits of experimental here Is it (usually) wise to intermix different suites? I guess it wouldn't matter that much for bits and pieces of experimental in unstable since you are already in agreeance with having an unstable system to begin with. I wanted to do the same thing with getting testing security updates into unstable, but I didn't think that was wise (plus it's the other way direction). -- Best regards, Brian signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Messed up Email
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 08:22:25PM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 23 Jun 2021 at 07:52:02 -0400, Michael Grant wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 07:36:33PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > > > gmail is a mail reader (like as Thunderbird, Mutt, Pine, or Outlook (the > > program) + a mail server + domain name (gmail.com). > > We are at cross-purposes (I think). My gmail account receives mail, > generally from bugs.debian.org. I download it with POP3 and read it > in mutt. That is all I use it for. It lools email compliant to me. > > -- > Brian. > I'm also currently using gmail for my mailing lists which seems to work pretty good with its IMAP and SMTP server along with mutt. The provider I have that hosts my custom domain email unfortunately does not have IMAP support. So I have to forward those emails I get at that address to my gmail account so that I can use mutt. I switched to hey-mail a month ago because it looked pretty. Ideally I would have my own mail server on my home network. -- Best regards, Brian T signature.asc Description: PGP signature
