Re: Debian from the Stampede's POV
On Sun, 24 May 1998, Hamish Moffatt wrote: On Sat, May 23, 1998 at 12:14:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: Here is why a lot of people are looking at SLP and liking it. tar xzf blah.slp If this is a design feature, why not just run Slackware? I think that .deb packages are extractable without dpkg is nice but not essential anyway. They exist solely for use on Debian and derived systems. I cannot imagine why we are even having this discussion. THANK you! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Setup w/large hard drives
On Sat, 9 May 1998, Pete Harlan wrote: Could someone give me a tutorial on how one should deal with large hard drives with Linux? I could've sworn I was on the right track Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that you can do the following, if you don't want to split your disk up into more partitions than necessary: Device Filesystem Size Mountpoint Contains - /dev/sda1 ext25mb /kernels kernels only /dev/sda2 ext28gb /Everything /dev/sda3 swap100mb none Swap space [cut] I have a similar setup with my IDE drive. I would suggest just making the /boot directory the mount point for the small initial partition. (I needed this to get around the BIOS limitations to use LILO). Here's my setup: /dev/hdb2 / ext2defaults0 1 /dev/hdb1 /boot ext2defaults0 2 /dev/hdb3 noneswapsw 0 0 red:/etc$ df Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hdb21493162 1336422 110443 92% / /dev/hdb1 43582048 2310 47% /boot -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What's the storywith 2.0?
On Mon, 4 May 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 4 May 1998, Craig Sanders wrote: [snip] a lot of users (note, users not only developers) have done this already and are very happy with the results. I am one of them, except for the fact GV doesn't work :[ I have had no Whats wrong with gv? I haven't noticed any problems with it yet. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is X breaking my monitor?
On Wed, 15 Apr 1998, George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, The Thought Assassin wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Will Lowe wrote: Every few minutes, the screen wavers a little -- like it was made of jelly and someone's shaking in just the slightest bit. Is this a monitor problem, or is my video card going, or have aliens changed the properties of the local space-time continuum? Check for new sources of electromagnetic radiation that might have been introduced to the vicinity. Speakers, motors, toasters, UFOs... -Greg Mildenhall Also, is there an electric space heater or fan that might be kicking in about the same time as you notice the interference? Does the location of Yeah thats a good suggestion. Maybe your air conditioner is turning on? I work in a research lab where we have alot of computers crammed in one room. If someone turns on one of the 21 monitors, the other monitors all flicker like you said. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: printing with kernel 2.1.94
On Thu, 9 Apr 1998, James Dietrich wrote: This one has me stumped: I have been experimenting with the latest kernels--versions 2.1.92 and now 2.1.94. However, I have had difficulties configuring my soundcard and parallel printer to work with the new kernels. After reading the OK. I might be able to help you with the printer problem. For some STRANGE reason, it seems that the lp device numbers changed between the kernel versions! For example, under 2.0.33 my printer device was /dev/lp1, but when I started using the 2.1.9x kernels, I had to go through my /etc/printcap and change all /dev/lp1 entries into /dev/lp0 !! Don't ask me why it changed... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AWE64, kernel 2.1.91
On Wed, 1 Apr 1998, Olivier Abad wrote: Christopher Jason Morrone wrote: However, when I boot up, it appears that only the awe_wave modules is being correctly installed. I had the same problems. I made the following modifications to my modules configuration : Thanks! I already got it working, and I used the exact method that you suggested! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tin
When I try to post an article using tin, I'm getting the message: Error: Bad charset for non-7bit encoding (must not be us-ascii) Anyone know why that is? What can I change us-ascii to that will make this work? I need to be able to post to c.o.l.m again. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AWE64, kernel 2.1.91
I'm having a little trouble setting up my AWE64. I've followed Brinkmann's AWE 32/64 HOWTO and I think I'm close to getting it to work. I have set up isapnp.conf as suggested, and verified all of the numbers against those in my win95 drivers. However, when I boot up, it appears that only the awe_wave modules is being correctly installed. Take a look at my /dev/sndstat: OSS/Free:3.8s2++-971130 Load type: Driver loaded as a module Kernel: Linux red 2.1.91 #2 SMP Sun Mar 29 04:14:32 EST 1998 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Card config: Audio devices: Synth devices: 0: AWE32-0.4.2c (RAM512k) Midi devices: Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: AWE32 Equalizer Any ideas? There WERE a couple things it said to set up in the kernel that don't seem to exist in 2.1.91, and I'm not sure if that could be the problem. Specifically /dev/dsp and /dev/audio support doesn't seem to be in 2.1.x kernels, and MIDI interface support is missing too. Looking forward to any suggestions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X11 and Matrox Mystique 220
On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, RUSSELL COOK wrote: Hello All, I just got a new video card, the Matrox Mystique 220. [can't get it to work, help, etc.] I've got one too. Xfree 3.3 from hamm works just fine for me! You'll need the SVGA server of course. I just used XF86Setup and it works fine. I can send you my config file privately if you'd like. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xdm?
I'd like to use xdm on my box. I've tried editing /etx/X11/config to change no-start-xdm no-xdm-start-server into start-xdm xdm-start-server abd then I rebooted. It said starting xdm but there's no X login screen. Whats up? (I tried putting xdm-start-server before start-xdm too...) I'm running a hamm system...kernel 2.0.33...SVGA server. Any ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
xdm solution
Thanks to all of the people who suggested that this line: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X was missing from the end of my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers file. That was indeed the problem. Is there a bug report out on this? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: anonymous wu-ftp
On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, Wiria A Kusuma wrote: Hi, here I am, again..., I can login as anonymous to my box, but I can not see anything in the /home/ftp directory..., I can cd to pub and everything under it, I can get files, and put files in incoming, the [cut] Yeah, it seems that the wrong libraries are in the lib directory in the ftp directory. There's a bug report out for wu-ftpd at least...I think the ftpd might have the same problem though. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
inetd problems!!!
(this is an all hamm system) Ok, I've got some problems. Namely, inetd is no longer started at boot time, whats up with that? Here's what happened. I decided to install xinetd because I thought that might fix some of the other random net problems I was having. (finger connections from the outside world were being refused, ls didn't show any output for outside anonymous users, etc) So I installed it. That package has problems. xinetd wasn't started when the package was done, and it didn't start after a reboot. That was annoying...so I removed that package. I think that inetd should be reinstated at this point, but the package doesn't do that. So now I'm without an inetd. So I use dpkg -S one inetd and see its in the netbase package. So I removed just that package and then reinstalled it. For some reason, inetd STILL is no longer being started. Any ideas? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: inetd problems!!!
On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 1998, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote: That was annoying...so I removed that package. I think that inetd should be reinstated at this point, but the package doesn't do that. So now I'm without an inetd. So I use dpkg -S one inetd and see its in the netbase package. So I removed just that package and then reinstalled it. For some reason, inetd STILL is no longer being started. Any ideas? Check the following: * Does /usr/sbin/inetd exist? * Does /etc/init.d/netbase exist? * Do you have symbolic links in /etc/rc?/S??netbase to /etc/init.d/netbase? If yes to all and still having problems, try starting the daemon by hand and see what it says. Ok. All of that would be yes. And when I just run inetd by hand, it doesn't say anything, it works perfectly fine. Maybe I should make sure it removes all of its config files when I remove netbase, and then install again. I think that xinetd did weird things to my init files. Hmm...everything works great when I start initd by hand, I guess I will have to purge all of the configs... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
'wmask' compiling error?
I'm trying to compile amp, and I get this error: rtbuf.c: In function `block_fancy_audio': rtbuf.c:434: storage size of `wmask' isn't known make: *** [rtbuf.o] Error 1 Could it be that I'm missing a necessary dev package? Anyone know which package? (I'm running an entirely hamm system.) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian and Windoze 95
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Catalin Popescu wrote: A friend of mine has a hard-disk of 1.2Gb with 2 partions: /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2. On /dev/hda1 he has Win'95. Is there any problems with booting if I help him to insatll Debian 1.3.1 on /dev/hda2 and try to boot it with loadlin. Should be fine. You might think about splitting up the /dev/hda2 partition into two partitions before you install, that way you'll have a swap partition. Of course you could always use a swap FILE, but I think that using a swap partition is better. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: configuring ftpd for anonymous access
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I get is - I can ftp to the box from itself or over the network and log in as anonymous. Then I can put files to the directory and they get transferred all right, and I can get files if I know their names... but, of course, as you may have guessed by now, I can't list the contents of the directories. It says that the connection has been opened successfully, but nothing comes out the other end. I think you forgot some libraries that ls needs: [cut] I'm having the same problem he has. ls doesn't report anything. However its only with anonymous logins. And it happens with all of the ftp server packages I've tried. ftpd, wu-ftp, and the wu-ftp-academ. (all from hamm). I've got a pretty pure hamm system, and I haven't forced anything. If there are libraries missing, its a packaging problem. Does anyone have any other ideas whats happening, because this is getting very frustrating. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: configuring ftpd for anonymous access
On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Christopher Jason Morrone wrote: [summary: ls doesn't show anything in anonymous ftp] This is definately a library problem. The listing I gave was for a libc5 ls, but I think it would be similar for libc6. Also verify permissions: Ok, I believe you, but all of my permissions are set the same as yours. Oh no way...you won't beleive this, I just tried it again and ls is working now! I swear that I didn't change the ftp stuff... The main thing I did on my system was remove the set6x86 package. I wonder if that was causing the ls problem...the default settings in that package were causing my system to give me signal 11's (and once a signal 4) when I tried to compile the kernel. It also gave other error messages at random times. Removed it and my processor is behaving normally again. (I have a Cyrix 200 MX) But it seems odd that that would cause the ls problem so consistantly and not break any other part of ftp... Perhaps it is because I just installed the 2.0.33 kernel? Could it be that something in the 2.0.32 kernels was causing the problem? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xload
Yeah I noticed that too. :) On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Matt Thompson wrote: OK, so what happened to xload now? I just upgraded my hamm system and xload has disappeared. Don't we go through this every once in a while? Matt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MZI, Inc. v-206.430.3726 707 S. Grady Wayf-206.430.3420 Renton, WA 98055 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Graphics Board URGENT
On Thu, 8 Jan 1998, Alexey Vyskubov wrote: [cut] Mystique Mystique 220 is not good for X :) I'm interested to know why you say that? I have a Matrox Mystique 220 with 4megs of ram and I haven't yet had a problem with X. The support for the Matrox cards is still in the early stages, but it hasn't given me any problems yet. I'm quite happy with it. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Clock skew detected.
I'm trying to compile the 2.0.32 kernel and I'm getting this at the end of the make-kpkg clean and make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image: make: *** Warning: Clock skew detected. Your build may be incomplete. What exactly does this error mean? I'm running a completely hamm distribution (except for apsfilter which I couldn't find in hamm yet...). -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
upgraded to hamm! perl prob...
Ok. I just completely reinstalled Debian. Pretty smooth. I let dselect install all the basic pre-selected packages. All good. Then I followed the libc5 to libc6 howto to the letter. I installed the necessary libraries by hand for perl. Then I ran dselect and pointed the ftp to the hamm dist like it says in the howto. I let dselect just run and upgrade the necessary packages. Well, for some reason perl didn't get installed because it depended on something else...and then dselect broke. Well, since dselect's ftp method already got perl_5.004.04-3.deb for me, I just went and found it and did a dpkg -i perl_5.004.04-3.deb by hand. That fixed things. I think maybe that perl file and whatever else it needs should be added to the libc5 to libc6 upgrade, to be installed by hand before using dselect. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
zgv (libc6)
Just tried zgv thats in hamm. I get this: red# zgv svgalib: FATAL internal error: Set MAX_REGS at least to 405 in src/driver.h and recompile everything. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Bash 2.01 Upgrade/Libc6
On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Paul Rightley wrote: I am trying to follow Scott Ellis' Libc5/6 upgrade mini-HOWTO to the letter (fearing for my system if I do not). It says that, in order to upgrade bash to 2.01, I must first install ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2. However, I cannot find this package anywhere (stable has ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-1 and it does not appear to be under 'oldlibs' in hamm. ftp://llug.sep.bnl.gov/pub/debian/dists/unstable/hamm/binary/libs/ncurses3.0_1.9.9e-2.deb It just takes a while to find these things, but they are ususally there. You can just get the Packages file and do a word search through it... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Help! libc6...
Ahh...hate to worry people...but I just broke my linux box. I tried to upgrade and its all screwed up, I could use some help. First of all, Perl broke...but I've got libgdbm1 and libgdbmg1, so I don't know whats up with that. But that's not my immediate concern. I can't log in any more. To begin with, the login prompt has (none) now instead of my computer's name. Then when I try to log in, right after it checks my password it flashes somethhing about /dev/tty1 real quick. Any ideas would be GREATLY appreciated. I figure I can get back in to my system later with boot disks as long as someone has an idea of what I need to fix this. Thanks. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Q's about upgrading to hamm
Ok, I'd like to upgrade to hamm, because there are some things there that I need. I'm following the libc5 to libc6 howto, but I've got a couple questions/comments. The first conflict arose when I tried to install the second package, libc6_2.0.5c-0.1 . It conflicted with the pthreads package. No biggy, I just got rid of the threads. Then I tried again and got this: Selecting previously deselected package libc6. dpkg: regarding libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb containing libc6: libc5 conflicts with libc6 libc6 (version 2.0.5c-0.1) is to be installed. dpkg: error processing libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb (--install): conflicting packages - not installing libc6 Errors were encountered while processing: libc6_2.0.5c-0.1.deb Can I just force it? Will that cause problems later? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: simple questions
On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Britton wrote: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, Dana M. Epp wrote: In my experience this works, but not nicely. You have to install Win95 first, and when it gets itselft all screwed up you can't reinstall it without scrapping your master boot record again, which I'm sure is a real pain if not a castrophe. I've also found (though it probably should have been obvious) that letting Win95 automagically reboot whill mess up your MBR to where you have to go in with a rescue disk. When it asks you if Can you be more specific about your trouble with rebooting Win95? I do it all the time and never have a problem. LILO works quite well. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: X, S3 server, and #9 Motion 771
On 3 Nov 1997, Dale Martin wrote: Christopher Jason Morrone [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There appears to be a problem in the X3.3 packages. I have a #9 Motion 771. I can run XF86Setup, and I can enter all of the setup info. But then when I click Done and it tries to start the server for my card, it dies. [cut] I'm using a PCI #9 motion 771, 4M VRAM card in the machine I'm writing this on. The version of the package I'm using for the xserver is 3.3-4. I haven't upgraded my X11 stuff to the libc6 versions yet - not everything I use has been released for the new libraries. Anyways, I'm using the same card with XFree 3.3 with absolutely no problems. I can send you my XF86Config file, if you like. Obviously, Yeah, could you mail me your config file? This is pretty odd that its locking up my machine when the S3 server starts...I didn't have any problem with the 3.2 packages. I've even purged every X package and reinstalled them. No go. I've tried both setup methods, and the system always locks when trying to start the S3 server. I did get minimal success trying the SVGA server. I was using XF86Setup, and when it got to the part where it starts up the SVGA server, the server started! I could even swap back to vt's...The only problem was that the server started up in a wierd mode on the display was really funky. But I could make out the standard X grey hash background, and the X cursor. So I'm pretty sure there is just something wrong with the S3 binary in this X version, or maybe just the Debian package. I guess I'll just have to go with the SVGA server and hack around a bunch...can't use xvidtune when the server starts up in a mode so wierd that I can't see the buttons. :) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X, S3 server, and #9 Motion 771
There appears to be a problem in the X3.3 packages. I have a #9 Motion 771. I can run XF86Setup, and I can enter all of the setup info. But then when I click Done and it tries to start the server for my card, it dies. It says starting server, the screen blanks, it flickers a couple times, and then the hard drive stops running and it locks there with the blank screen. Any ideas? I had X running just fine with X3.2. Anyone know if the 3.2 packages are still around somewhere? Some more info about my system: kernel 2.0.27 #9 FX Motion 771, local bus, with 4 megs of vram Eh, thats all, let me know if you need more info. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Xvfb
I'm trying to install net-fu, and it seems that I am missing Xvfb. Anyone know what package it comes in? I just upgraded from X 3.2 to 3.3...I was hoping that Xvfb would be in there, but I guess I missed the package for that. Upgrading was certainly a bad idea. X doesn't work now. When I try to start X the hd starts running as the program starts to load, the screen blanks, and then everything just locks up. But I guess this is an entirely different question... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape??
On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Egon Schmid wrote: Christopher Jason Morrone wrote: On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote: I have Netscape 4.03 (non-beta, full release) and it comes with it's own installer. Just download the file from: [cut] Yeah, I guess I'll just break down and do that. If you put them in the /tmp-directory you can use the debian installer. No, I did that, it didn't work... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Netscape??
I'm trying to get the netscape 4 beta installer, but its doesn't seem to be going well... In dselect I did an Update, and cleared everything. So my list is up to date. I selected the netscape beta package. Went to Install, and then...nothing. It won't find it during the install page. Doesn't find any new packages to install. Does the file actually exist in the correct place in the archives? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape??
On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Matt Thompson wrote: I have Netscape 4.03 (non-beta, full release) and it comes with it's own installer. Just download the file from: [cut] Yeah, I guess I'll just break down and do that. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
update-menu problem
Whenever update-menu runs, it says: Unknown identifier in script -f: Aborting. This is completely messing up my menus everywhere. Can anyone help me with this? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
X3.3
A friend of mine just installed Linux, newest Debian dist off of the ftp sites. Having a little trouble with X. He'd like to play Maelstrom, but it keeps locking up just as he starts the second level. (We can kill the server with ctrl-alt-backspace still.) He's running the newest X3.3, and the mach8 server. Any known bugs in there? (ATI Graphics ULTRA) I'm running the same Maelstrom on X3.2, S3 server with no problems. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: printing over samba to win95
On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Rick Macdonald wrote: On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, George Bonser wrote: My understanding is that samba allows Win95 to print to Linux, it you want to go the other way, (linux to Win95 resources) you need a program called rumba. You can locate it on most of the NExT ftp archives, I do No, you use rumba to nfs mount the win95 filesystems on the Linux box. It's great. You don't need smbfs in the kernel or anything. It should be Debian-ized! [cut] Where can I find more information about rumba? Will this only work in Linux, or can this be used on other UNIX systems? (Solaris in particular) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
On Thu, 31 Jul 1997, Riku Saikkonen wrote: [cut] What I'm trying to say is that ICQ for Linux would be no better than fingerd+talkd+... for Win95. ICQ has nothing new; it's just MS's proprietary implementation of things that finger, talk, IRC, and friends have done for years. And ICQ is not free, and likely never will be. The client may be free of charge right now, but an ICQ server isn't. Not all want to use MS's centralised server; for example, if you're on a network not connected to the [cut] Just for the record, ICQ isn't by MS. Its by Mirabilis (www.mirabilis.com). Its just that the client is only AVAILABLE for MS OS's right now. Soon to be Mac and java also... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
On 30 Jul 1997, Stephen Witt wrote: [cut] So, I would hate to see the continuation of a proprietary solution to a particular problem by the free software development population of the general public. It goes against nearly every basic part of the Linux/Unix/IP philosopy and in the end denies us functionality and choice. I pretty much agree with you. However I also think that something like ICQ might be neat. I'm thinking of an app with a nice little interface like ICQ's, but uses already well established IP tools. I, like many others, find it very difficult to tell when my friends are on line. The University of Delaware has some X.500 thing installed, so noone can finger into the university and find out if you're logged in. And even if they could, they might have to guess which computer you're on...although there are ways to make a finger daemon search multiple computers, I know, but more often than not people don't. (Too much work on top of what they already have to do I suppose) I'd like an app that will announce to a central server that I'm online (or maybe distributed servers that communicate with each other for better stability), and that my client can check to see if my friends are logged in, where they're logged in, etc. Then it could fire up a talk client for you easily. Personally, I think that ytalk is all I need. Its excellent. Might need to implement some kind of ability to accept talk requests built in to the client on MS and Macs and such...I don't know, I haven't thought this out too much yet. In any event, there should be an RFC, and the source should be free. And if it isn't written soon ICQ will take over the world. :) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
On Mon, 28 Jul 1997, Travis Cole wrote: [cut] What you really need to do is to encourage their programming team to finish up the Java version of their program which would allow you to run ICQ under Linux and every other platform available. Just my thoughts. The thing about Java is that is s sl. I would much rather have a native Linux version, but If java is all we get then that is good. And I am [cut] I agree, java is much better than nothing. However, I might debate with you that java is so extremely so. I used to think so too, because all I was of java was stupid animations on web pages. However, I have a friend developing an app in java, and I'm quite impressed. Well written java code can work quite well. With a little utility to keep tabs on your friends, after the initial loading phase there wouldn't be much practical difference between java and native. I wouldn't want to run a java version of xemacs, but apps smaller than that can run suprisingly well if WRITTEN well. :) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Travis Cole wrote: [cut] I would love to have this as in a free and open form but now the only option I can see is ICQ or AOL's AIM and right now AIM is the only one working for more than Windows. Hehe, I just checked this out...I'll try it for a while because my family back home uses AOL. But check out part of the disclaimer: AOL reserves the right, in its sole discretion and at any time, to discontinue the Service; limit, terminate, or suspend your use of the Service; assess charges for the future use of the Service; and/or make changes to this Registration Agreement. Note the part where it says assess charges. :) Who knows, maybe they'll be nice and keep a client free...but there's always the chance... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
On Wed, 30 Jul 1997, Adam Shand wrote: [cut] ICQ is free in that it doesn't cost any money, however it's not public license or source code available. The problem with IRC is that it simply [cut] AND I don't believe that it will remain free once it gets out of the beta testing phase...give it away free to get them hooked, then start charging... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ICQ
On Sun, 27 Jul 1997, Travis Cole wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I hope this is an appropriate posting for this list. I have used the ICQ program from Mirabilis LTD http://www.mirabilis.com In Windows 95 and I would love to be able to use this great software with Linux. But unfortunately as far as I know Mirabilis has no plans to make a Linux version available. [cut] Yeah, I have a friend who even offered to port it for them. (Without pay of course) No dice. Maybe if they get flooded with requests... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Xfree86-3.3 and S3V
On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Bob Clark wrote: [cut] Would someone be so kind as to post (re-post?) some possible solutions. I thought a downgrade to 3.2 would do the trick but it seems the 3.2 pakages are gone. They're there, I just downgraded myself. Look in rex-fixed or something like that. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: A debian network
On Thu, 17 Jul 1997, Will Lowe wrote: [cut] Secondly, I don't have a CD drive for the 486. Is it possible that I could get enough of base and nfs installed via floppy to do an nfs install from the pentium? Or is it hopeless, and should I just move my CD drive to the 486 long enough to do the install? I don't know alot about setting Linux up as a router on a 486, but I hear it works well. As for the install, you could just use Debian's ftp install option when you get back to school. That how I install, works great. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XF86 3.3-3
On Mon, 14 Jul 1997, Kevin M. Bealer wrote: [cut] I found my keyboard/screen, and possibly the whole thing (don't remember) would lock up when I had an S3, but adding the nolinear option fixed the problem. This was with the older version, i.e. it happened with 3.1 or 3.2. However, other things changed with my config at 3.3, so maybe you might want to try turning options like this on and off. Yeah...I've never had to use any special options before. I did try nolinear this time out of desperation, but it didn't help. In any event, I succesfully downgraded to 3.2 and I am happy again. [cut] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: talk to debian and sun
I think that Sun and such are using the old talk port. (I have no idea if the protocols differ...) If you check your /etc/services file, you'll probably see: talk517/udp ntalk 518/udp And in the /etc/inetd.conf: talk dgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.talkd ntalkdgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd/usr/sbin/in.ntalkd You might be missing the one on port 517, which might you don't see talk requests from those machines. Now, doesn't anyone find it silly that the old port isn't supported by default? I've found that MOST of the Universities that I want to talk with are all using the old talk port! UIUC, UPenn, CMU, Cornell, U of Delaware...and I'm sure many, many more. One quick and easy way around the problem is to install to-talk...made specifically to talk to the old systems. Unfortunately, it doesn't have all of the nifty features of ytalk. And I find it particularly annoying to have to use a different talk command depending on the source of the talk request. Maybe this subject should be taken to the Linux newsgroups... On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Eric Delaunay wrote: John Garas wrote: I can talk or ytalk to debian machines but I can't talk to any sun machines. If a sun user tries to talk to me I don't even get a notification. Does anybody knows a remedy for that. You have to install ntalk ntalkd on the Sun side. AFAIK, Sun's talk uses an obsolete protocol. Bye. -- Eric Delaunay | La guerre justifie l'existence des militaires. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | En les supprimant. Henri Jeanson (1900-1970) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XF86 3.3-3
On Thu, 10 Jul 1997, Joost Kooij wrote: On Wed, 9 Jul 1997, Ralph Winslow wrote: Christopher Jason Morrone wrote: snip [ Problems, help! ] This also reflects my experience exactly. HELP!! It works fine for me. I also did an upgrade from 1.2 to 1.3 and noticed the following: Well, thats not exactly what I did...I upgraded to Debian 1.3 when it first came out. I just now upgraded my X 3.2 to 3.3 when IT came out. [cut] have to do that), have you tried to remove (rename) the old configuration files and then run either 'xbase-configure' or 'XF86Setup'? After that you Yep, tried that. can always tweak the new file using parts of the old file (read the new docs too before you do this). Tried that too, somewhat...I'm not doing anything radical in my old configs. They are standard XF86Setup stuff. I ran the new XF86Setup and things look damn similar to me. Good luck, Joost [cut] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
XF86 3.3-3
I've seen other messages about XF86 3.3 not working. I am also experiencing problems. I upgraded from 3.2 using the 3.3-3 packages, and now when I try to startx, the screen flickers and goes black, and the keyboard locks up. Nothing else. Unfortunately, because of the screen blanking, I really have no idea whats going wrong. Someone else I know is having the exact same problem, I'm using the S3 server(#9 motion 771 card), and he's using standard SVGA for his Trident I believe. In any case, the XF86 3.3 packages are definitely broken. I'd fill out a bug report, but unfortunately, I can't be any more specific than that right now. Do the package maintainers know that something is wrong? I'd be happy to supply any info that I can. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XF86 3.3-3
Thanks for the suggestion, but thats not the problem. I should make it clear that X worked perfectly fine before the upgrade. I have a pretty much stock Debian system also. Someone also suggested that I do a: X -probeonly out 21 Its a good idea, but it doesn't show any errors that I can see. I've appended the output to the end of this message if anyone would like to take a look. I do notice that it says Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF], but I'm using 2.0.27...maybe thats the system it was compiled on? On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, Igor Grobman wrote: I had a similar problem. The reason was a corrupted ~/.Xauthority file. Try deleting it, and relogging on. That fixed it for me. HTH [cut] XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: Jun 2 1997 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (see http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] Configured drivers: S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic (using VT number 7) XF86Config: /etc/X11/XF86Config (**) stands for supplied, (--) stands for probed/default values (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) XKB: model: pc102 (**) XKB: layout: us (**) Mouse: type: MouseSystems, device: /dev/mouse, baudrate: 1200 (**) S3: Graphics device ID: Primary Card (**) S3: Monitor ID: Primary Monitor (**) FontPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/f onts/75dpi,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi (--) S3: chipset: 968 rev. 3 (--) S3: chipset driver: newmmio (--) S3: card type: 386/486 localbus (--) S3: videoram: 4096k (--) S3: Detected an IBM RGB524 ramdac rev. e0 (--) S3: Ramdac type: ibm_rgb524 (**) S3: Ramdac speed: 220 MHz (--) S3: Using hardware cursor from IBM RGB52x RAMDAC (--) S3: #9 Motion 771 BIOS found (--) S3: Using IBM RGB52x programmable clock (MCLK 60.000 MHz) (**) S3: with refclock 16.000 MHz (probed 16.112 15.956) (--) S3: Maximum allowed dot-clock: 220.000 MHz (**) S3: Mode 1024x768: mode clock = 65.000 (**) S3: Mode 800x600: mode clock = 50.000 (**) S3: Mode 640x480: mode clock = 31.500 (--) S3: Operating RAMDAC in pixel multiplex mode (--) S3: Using 8 bits per RGB value (--) S3: Virtual resolution set to 1024x768 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: XF86 3.3-3
On Tue, 8 Jul 1997, H Huang wrote: [cut] I think the problem has something to do with certain newly added features of XFree86-3.3, some of which actually are still in beta test stage. Possible, but should beta options be enabled in a stable package by default? I've got a clgd 5428 card. Although X still works after the upgrade, the showdow portions of some buttons, scrollbars and arrows are not drawing well. The cause is that 3.3 adds some beta acceleration features in the Cirrus driver, which does not work well with the 5428 card. I have to disable the acceleration to make it work like it did before. Therefore, the correct procedure to upgrade X (any version) is: 1) stop X (xdm,startx) 2) upgrade the package 3) read docs 4) configure X. Pretty much how I did it. I'm still searching the configs to try to find bad lines... Another bit of new info. I've found (by logging in from a remote terminal) that after the screen blanks and the keyboard locks up, the X processes appear to die off, because there aren't any running when I log in remotely... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
