Kernel 2.4.13 compile fails on char.o
/char.o(.text+0xa24c): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' drivers/char/char.o(.text+0xa269): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' drivers/char/char.o(.text+0xa272): undefined reference to `accent_table' drivers/char/char.o(.text+0xa2c3): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' drivers/char/char.o(.text+0xa2d7): undefined reference to `accent_table' drivers/char/char.o: In function `handle_scancode': drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x16d8b): undefined reference to `key_maps' drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x16dd9): undefined reference to `key_maps' drivers/char/char.o: In function `handle_diacr': drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x172c4): undefined reference to `accent_table_size' drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x172df): undefined reference to `accent_table' drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x17333): undefined reference to `accent_table' drivers/char/char.o: In function `do_fn': drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x17369): undefined reference to `func_table' drivers/char/char.o: In function `compute_shiftstate': drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x175b3): undefined reference to `key_maps' drivers/char/char.o: In function `do_slock': drivers/char/char.o(.text+0x17721): undefined reference to `key_maps' make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1 -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I am Revenge: sent from the infernal kingdom, To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind, By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes. -- Titus Andronicus
Re: XMMS and Galeon (with Flash) at the same time?
Quoth Preben Randhol, My little sister is complaining that Galeon doesn't work. I found the problem to be that she is playing music with XMMS and entering pages that uses flash animation, galeon will hang because flash won't accept that it cannot get /dev/dsp. I was wondering if somebody has some kind of trick so that my sister can avoid this problem? This is a known bug in mozilla in it's interaction with the flash plugin (or maybe vice versa). Esound, as someone suggested, will not solve the problem. The work-around I used to use was just hit pause on xmma for a second or two, and the browser will continue loading the site normally. The work-around that I currently use is to remove the flash plugin. I know of no other solution. Interestingly, this is the improved behaviour. Previously, mozilla would not load while the sound device was in use. Now it's just when it's trying to load the flash plugin when it's needed. BTW, if anyone has a user_pref for mozilla that disables the dialog box asking if I was to download the flash plugin, I'd love to know about it. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Homicide is, no matter what else it might be, a social relationship. -- Paul Bonnana
Re: qmail-src
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED], On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 05:28:15PM +0100, MH wrote: 2) But the debian package is quiet OK and you avoid the hassle of fulfilling mta-dependencies otherwise. I let Deban install exim, and then disabled it from running. You're better of install the equivs package. There is even an example script set up to provide mail-transport-agent (or whatever it is that a mail server is supposed to provide), so you don't even have to waste any time working out how it works. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Homicide is, no matter what else it might be, a social relationship. -- Paul Bonnana
Re: Linux/Windows Universal Benchmark
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hi, I want to benchmark my desktop system running in Linux (Gnome, XF86 v3.x, 2.4.5 kernel) against itself running Win98se. Is there a benchmark program that will work in both enviornments to give me an accurate benchmark? Quake 3 Arena. Of course, it might not tell you everything you're interested in, but all of the good hardware review site use it. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Homicide is, no matter what else it might be, a social relationship. -- Paul Bonnana
Re: Framebuffer AVI player?
Quoth Stan Brown, So, I now have vcr working and capturing files, which I can play back with aviplay. However, I really like watching tv in frame buffer mode, so here's the question, Is there a AVI player that can display to the framebuffer? Mplayer (http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/) will do this. I've personally tried it out on the Matrox FB and it worked fine. Note that there are no debian package, but the source contains (or did once) a debian control file (build by debian/rules binary), but it builds and installs fine from source. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne My conscience hath a thousand several tongues, And every tongue brings in a several tale, And every tale condemns me for a villain. -- Richard III
Re: kdelibs3
Quoth Glenn Becker, Hi, all, I've been having some problems getting an upgrade to some of the new KDE packages, to wit ... kdelibs3. Have been getting the following error message upon trying to force things with 'apt-get -f install': Reading Package Lists... Building Dependency Tree... Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: kdelibs3 1 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 19 not upgraded. 1 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/6758kB of archives. After unpacking 5603kB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 160795 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace kdelibs3 4:2.1.2-3 (using .../kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb) ... Unpacking replacement kdelibs3 ... Replacing files in old package kdebase-libs ... dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/devices/3floppy_mount.png', which is also in package kdebase dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Any ideas how to get beyond this? I'm stumped. Have been removing KDE apps one by one, but nothing seems to clear the way. Not pretty, but the following will work (but possibly break something later on, for all I know...) dpkg --install --force-overwrite \ /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs3_4%3a2.2.1-14_i386.deb cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Homicide is, no matter what else it might be, a social relationship. -- Paul Bonnana
Re: What's the file system of root.bin?
Quoth Karsten M. Self, For the Potato 2.2 disks, however, root.bin found under /install is a gziped ext2 filesystem image. This can be determined by running 'type' against the file (it reports gzip), then uncompressing the file (most likely to a location other than the CDROM), and running 'type' against it again. I've currently got this image mounted on my own system: Are you sure you don't mean `file', rather than `type'? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming, And the lamplight o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor; And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor Shall be lifted- nevermore! -- The Raven (Poe, 1845)
Re: Patches applied to stock kernel to make deb kernel image
Quoth Adam Warner, make dep make bzImage make modules make modules_install make install We have make-kpkg for such tasks. Makes your life easier. I can't imagine how it could be easier than my current setup but I'll look into it. make-kpkg clean fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image Go and have your beverage of choice... sudo dpkg --install ../kernel-image... It's easier, I think. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne And thus I clothe my naked villany With old odd ends stolen out of holy writ; And seem a saint, when most I play the devil. -- Richard III
Re: Annoying Mozilla 0.9.5 behavior
Quoth Rick Pasotto, I normally run junkbuster and it looks like this somehow confuses 0.9.5. What happens is that the wrong page gets loaded. The URL window shows the correct address but the actual page seems to come from somewhere random in the cache. Today I tried to access www.linuxworld.com and got a 'This Page is Under Construction' page. Setting the proxy to 'direct internet connection' solved the problem. Check out the following for some workarounds http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38488 Note that this frequently breaks, and un-breaks, and re-breaks again in the nightlies. While junkbuster is still useful for some things (like blocking the banners on slashdot without blocking all the other graphics), the Block images from this server, and Mozilla's cookie control make it a lot less essential than it used to be. These days I have junkbuster's cookie control turned off most of the time and just use Mozilla's cookie functions. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation. Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men. -- The Art of War (Sun Tsu)
Re: Annoying Mozilla behavior
Quoth Colin Watson, The mozilla in Debian stable and testing is really rather old. Let's hope we can get a new release out sometime soon and finally kill M18. It's actually very easy to get and install the nightly builds into /usr/local. If you want to actually use mozilla as your day-to-day browser, newer builds are a lot less painful. While it's something of an ugly hack, I use the following shell script to download the most recent nightly when I feel like it. Of course, you'll have to change the URL to your local mirror. cheers, damon #!/bin/sh cd ~/downloads rm mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz.bak mv mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz.bak wget -t0 http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/mozilla/mozilla/nightly/latest/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz rm -rf /usr/local/mozilla tar xzvf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.gz -C /usr/local ln -s /usr/lib/netscape/plugins/* /usr/local/mozilla/plugins ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.3/plugin/i386/mozilla/javaplugin_oji.so /usr/local/mozilla/plugins/ ln -s /usr/lib/netscape/plugins-libc6/[npr]* /usr/local/mozilla/plugins/ -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation. Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men. -- The Art of War (Sun Tsu)
Re: [ot] Chmods for phpNuke...
PostNuke (www.postnuke.com) might be a better option. It's built on PHPNuke, but seems to be a bit more security conscious. HTH, damon Quoth Alexander Wallace, Well, that's scary... Anyone knows of more secure alternatives? On Thu, 25 Oct 2001, Damon Muller wrote: Quoth Alexander Wallace, This is more of a linux question... Is there a way to change recursivly the mode to directories only? PHP Nuke requires me to change all files to 666 (chmod -R 666 *) and to 777 all direcotories in order to use the file manager... Can this be done in a sinle operation? You could always just re-enable telnet and remove the password for the root account... Seriously, you really shouldn't do this on a publically accessible machine. PPHNuke has had many security problems reported on BugTraq and lwn.net, many of which do not seem to be addressed with any great haste. Specifically, from last weeks lwn.net (http://lwn.net/2001/1018/security.php3), Login vulnerability in PostNuke. The PostNuke web portal system (up to version 0.64) has a vulnerability which can allow an attacker to log into other users' accounts. A fix is included in the report. It appears that PhpNuke is also vulnerable to this attack. (We also still have not seen a new PhpNuke release fixing the severe, widely-exploited vulnerability in version 5.2.) You really should consider checking out something else. However, it's your machine. :) cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I am Revenge: sent from the infernal kingdom, To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind, By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes. -- Titus Andronicus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne It's not a sense of humor. It's a sense of irony disguised as one. -- Bruce Sterling
Re: Radius
Quoth Davi Leal, What command could I use to check if my GNU/Linux radius server answer accurately? telnet IP PORT? What port? [rei:docs]% grep radius /etc/services datametrics 1645/tcpold-radius # datametrics / old radius entry datametrics 1645/udpold-radius # datametrics / old radius entry radius 1812/tcp# Radius radius 1812/udp# Radius USER user? PASS password? No idea, but RADIUS is defined by various RFCs. Try: http://www.google.com/search?q=radius+rfc HTH, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne It's not a sense of humor. It's a sense of irony disguised as one. -- Bruce Sterling
Re: [ot] Chmods for phpNuke...
Quoth Alexander Wallace, This is more of a linux question... Is there a way to change recursivly the mode to directories only? PHP Nuke requires me to change all files to 666 (chmod -R 666 *) and to 777 all direcotories in order to use the file manager... Can this be done in a sinle operation? You could always just re-enable telnet and remove the password for the root account... Seriously, you really shouldn't do this on a publically accessible machine. PPHNuke has had many security problems reported on BugTraq and lwn.net, many of which do not seem to be addressed with any great haste. Specifically, from last weeks lwn.net (http://lwn.net/2001/1018/security.php3), Login vulnerability in PostNuke. The PostNuke web portal system (up to version 0.64) has a vulnerability which can allow an attacker to log into other users' accounts. A fix is included in the report. It appears that PhpNuke is also vulnerable to this attack. (We also still have not seen a new PhpNuke release fixing the severe, widely-exploited vulnerability in version 5.2.) You really should consider checking out something else. However, it's your machine. :) cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I am Revenge: sent from the infernal kingdom, To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind, By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes. -- Titus Andronicus
Possible X bug?
Hi all, I think I may have possibly stumbled accross an X bug, but I was interested to see if anyone else had encountered it before bugging the harried souls of the X Strikeforce. A quick look at the billions of bugs filed against xserver-xfree86 hasn't turned up anything relevant... I have a few apps that can run windowed or full-screen (mplayer (latest version self-compiled) and feh (latest Woody version) are two that I have confirmed it on). When run full screen, they will be miss-placed. They will be full-screen sized, and borderless, but start a few hundred pixels down and accross from the top left-hand corner of the screen. Imagine, for example, that the full-screen window had a window border and was dragged some distance accross the screen, so it didn't fill the whole screen. That's what it's like. Now, when I run either of these programs in windowed mode (not full screen), and then drag them into the very top left hand corner of the screen, then close and run them full screen, they take up the entire screen. So obviously they are remembering where they have been started up (or the X server is, or the window manager is), and starting up from that point when full-screened. Originally I thought this was a bug in mplayer, because that's where I first saw it, but now I have seen it in feh as well. Other apps that I have tried which run full screen (xine and gqview, for example) do not show this problem. I'm running latest Woody with a Matrox G450 and sawfish. The following, I think, are the relevant packages: [rei:docs]% dpkg -l sawfish\* xserver\* feh\*|grep ^i ii sawfish-gnome 0.99-1 A highly configurable window manager for X11 ii sawfish-merlin 1.0.1-1More flexible functions for sawfish. ii xserver-common 4.1.0-7files and utilities common to all X servers ii xserver-xfree8 4.1.0-7the XFree86 X server ii feh1.1.0-1imlib2 based image viewer Is anyone else seeing these problems? Can anyone run feh or mplayer full screen properly? Even suggestions as to which package to file the bug(s) against would be appreciated. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I am Revenge: sent from the infernal kingdom, To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind, By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes. -- Titus Andronicus
Re: xine fullscreen?
Quoth Joerg Johannes, I'm trying to get xine to work in fullscreen mode, but I can't get it. I have a GeForce card with nvidia drivers, XV is working, but xine only shows up in window mode (F during playback has no effect, and -pf on the command line neither...) I'm using the xine-ui deb from unstable. Has anybody managed to get fullscreen? What am I missing? I've got a self-compilted 0.92, and full-screen works. Have you actually tried pressing the full-screen button? It looks like a `X', but with chunky ends (as opposed to the close button, which just looks like an `X' without chunky ends). Appart from that, I don't know what to suggest. I certainly did not need to make it suid root (*shudder*) to get it working. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I am Revenge: sent from the infernal kingdom, To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind, By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes. -- Titus Andronicus
Xemacs menubar font
Hi all, A quick question for all the Xemacs gurus out there. My xemacs menu bar has a very bloody ugly, thick, cursive font, and it doesn't look at all pretty. What I want is a nice boring font, like `fixed'. The Xemacs FAQ suggests the following lines: Emacs.default.attributeFont: -*-*-medium-r-*-*-*-120-*-*-m-*-*-* Emacs*menubar*font: fixed Emacs.modeline.attributeFont: fixed which I have added to my .Xdefaults file. However, running xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults results in no change. The modeline is set to fixed, so maybe that worked (or maybe it was always like that...) Anyway, if anyone has any suggestions as to how I might fix this, please let me know. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne For murder, though it have no tongue, will speak With most miraculous organ. -- Hamlet
Re: Xemacs menubar font
Quoth Hartmut Figge, README.Debian says: 3) For mule binaries you must use fontSet rather than font in Xresources to change the fonts used. For example: Emacs*font: -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-10-* becomes Emacs*fontSet: -*-lucidatypewriter-medium-r-normal-*-10-* perhaps you may give this a try. That was exactly it. Many thanks! damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Did a large procession wave their torches As my head fell in the basket, And was everybody dancing on the casket... -- TBMG, Dead
Re: X sesion blanking _after_ screen saver stars up
Quoth Stan Brown, I'm runing potato + Progeny + 2.4.9 kernel packages. I'm using gnome, and have it set up to start the svreen saver after 5 minutes, which it does. However, sometime later the whole screen balnks. I've noticed that the 2.4.9 kernel packagges do not include apm, so I'm assuming this is not an apm thig. Run xscreensaver-options, and look at `Blanking and Locking' under the `Screensaver Options' tab. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Did a large procession wave their torches As my head fell in the basket, And was everybody dancing on the casket... -- TBMG, Dead
Re: font problem in kde
Quoth Tom Allison, I'm experiencing a weird problem in kde: - when using kde wm, I can't access all fonts available in my system; it defaults to a very ugly and almost unreadable font (Arnold Boecklin). - when using another window manager, like wmaker, I launch kde control center, choose the appropriate font (arial), apply it, the control center window gets redrawn with the chosen font and every kde app that I launch will have the right font (arial, courier, whatever). Any hint on why this is happening? How to find the culprit? I have a similar situation where my Fixed Width fonts are defaulting to an Agate 8 -- which is a hideously difficult to read font similar to an Olde English type. It might be nice someplaces, but not on my terminal windows. Turn off anti-aliasing from the control panel thingy. Most of the fonts you usually use can't be anti-aliased, and so all you're left with are a few that can. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I go, and it is done; the bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan; for it is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to hell. -- Macbeth
Re: Rescye disk that understands Reiserfs ?
Quoth Stan Brown, But, to do this I need for the kernel on the rescue disk to understand Reiserfs. Where can I get such a rescue disk? Recovery is Possible (RiP) is a good little rescue disk than has drivers for reiserfs. This is what I used to convert my partitions to reiserfs. It can be found at http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ HTH, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Let not our babbling dreams affright our souls: Conscience is but a word that cowards use, -- Richard III
Re: dual NICs, same brand or not?
Quoth Ron Farrer, I'm building a firewall out of an old 486 and was wondering if it was best to use two NICs of the same type/brand or to use different ones? Is there any gotchas for doing one over the other? I find that's it's easier to use two different cards (not just different brands, but different chipsets) because you can easily dictate which one will be eth0 and eth1 in /etc/modules.conf. Using the same brands will certainly work, but you'll probably end up juggling them around to work out which one is which. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones; -- Julius Caesar
Re: looping messages [was Re: Sendmail not sending queue's out.]
Quoth Craig Dickson, I've been getting a lot of repeat messages from debian-user lately also. I have the impression, based on the headers, that someone at best.com has accidentally created a loop that somehow is getting past the list server's loop detection. It's annoying, but I'm not sure what we can do about it... The following maildrop rule seems to be picking them up for me: if (/^X-Envelope-Sender: bounce-debian-user=debian=atoka-software/) exit Of course, this was on the basis of the headers of about two suspected dupes... cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I am Revenge: sent from the infernal kingdom, To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind, By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes. -- Titus Andronicus
Re: How can I use dselect from behind a firewall?
Quoth Bristow Paul-BPB007, I'm in a similar situation to this but my proxy requires a password to get through it. Is there anyway I can do this? Set the following environment variables: http_proxy=http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8080 ftp_proxy=http://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:8080 Where `user' and `pass' are your username and password for the proxy, of course. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne For in that sleep of death what dreams may come When we have shuffled off this mortal coil, -- Hamlet
Re: SPAM WARNING: spammers use Debian lists for harvesting
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED], = Original Message From Ailbhe Leamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] = If you post to any mailing list with archives on the web you are likely to have your address harvested by spammers. This is not news. Yeah, knee-jerk reaction on my behalf, but I would have appreciated having the connection between lists and spam made to me when I signed up, so, I make it now to anyone who might be tempted to use their primary e-mail address for this or any list: don't. FWIW, however, it has got a *lot* worse in the last week or so. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Homicide is, no matter what else it might be, a social relationship. -- Paul Bonnana
Re: OpenGL causes hard system lockups
Quoth Matthew Garman, I bought a Matrox Millenium g450 over the summer. I got it setup to do hardware accelerated 3d with XFree 4.x. The only real 3d apps I've used are the glxgears test program, and the 3d screensavers that can be built with the xscreensaver package. Some of these 3D screensavers will unexpectedly lock up my system---and I mean *completely* lock up my system, can't ctrl-alt-f[1-6] to switch to a text console, I can't kill X with ctrl-alt-backspace, etc. Nothing works. Obviously I don't like lockups like that, since I have to restart my computer without shutting down properly. Anyone know what might be causing this? Is it likely a hardware problem? Anyone had any experience with this kind of thing? I have also experienced similar problems from time to time. It seems somewhat dependent on X version (or maybe just on the mga driver). I have no idea what causes it, or how to fix it, but I thought it might be worth letting you know it's probably not just flakey harware on your part. cheers. damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Homicide is, no matter what else it might be, a social relationship. -- Paul Bonnana
[OT] Sane envelope sender
Hi all, With the recent (long) thread about the increase in spam from the mailing list, it occured to me to ask if anyone has any suggestions for a sane envelope sender for outgoing emails. I have numerous email accounts, but am permanently behind a firewall. The firewall only allows me access to the one smtp server, which I use as a smart-host to forward my outgoing mail. Yet I don't have an account on that server to receive mail to, and my home box, also behind the firewall, can't receive outside mail (or any sort of outside connection). I'm using qmail on my local machine, which makes it easy to set the envelope sender ($QMAILHOST and $QMAILUSER), yet I'm not exactly sure what it should be set as. At the moment, it's set as one of my email accounts (using the FQDN as the domain name, as some mail servers complain if the envelope domain is not resolvable, so you can't just use the MX name). Is that the best solution, or is there something more `correct'. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Homicide is, no matter what else it might be, a social relationship. -- Paul Bonnana
Re: can't mount smbfs
Quoth Bob Koss, I'm running 2.4.7. Mine works the other way also. I need it to work this way (;-)) to do a backup. Having just re-looked at mine after a reboot, it seems to be working again. While I'm loathe to suggest rebooting a debian box, maybe samba makes a real OS like windoze in more ways than one...? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I am Revenge: sent from the infernal kingdom, To ease the gnawing vulture of thy mind, By working wreakful vengeance on thy foes. -- Titus Andronicus
Re: offtopic: which text language to use?
Quoth David Roundy, I don't know anything about docbook (which quite likely is very good), but latex isn't bad either (and being a physicist I pretty much have to know it anyways). I've looked briefly at some docbook source, and it looked (to my untrained eye) uglier than latex source, and harder to input. But that's probably just because I am unfamiliar with it. latex2html gives reasonably good (but a tad ugly) output. If all you want is perfectly functional output, it should be fine. You can see an example at http://civet.berkeley.edu/paratec/ (just the manual to a code that you don't have access to...). Probably if you don't want to typeset any math, though, you're better off using docbook... but I can't vouch for that. As a social science (criminology) doctoral student, writing a PhD thesis in LaTeX, I'd argue very strongly that it's useful for people who don't need to write lots of complex equations. LaTeX, Xemacs, BibTeX and SiXPack (a perl/Tk BibTeX reference manager) are a wonderful combination. DocBook tags seem to be a bit more intrusive than LaTeX ones (I do lots of php/html coding by hand, and I'd much rather write a document in LaTeX than in html), and LaTeX has been around for a long time, is very stable, and is supported on many platforms. It also produces great pdf output using dvipdfm. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Did a large procession wave their torches As my head fell in the basket, And was everybody dancing on the casket... -- TBMG, Dead
Re: offtopic: How to seperate only sound from a mpeg file
Quoth Thomas Wegner, Is it possible to seperate sound from a mpeg-file and save the result into a soundfile? Although I've never tried to do this myself... [rei:~]% mplayer -ao help MPlayer 0.18pre4(C) 2000-2001 Arpad Gereoffy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Available audio output drivers: oss OSS/ioctl audio output nullNull audio output sdl SDLlib audio output pcm RAW PCM/WAVE file writer audio output It looks like mplayer will write the audio from a video file to a wav file. I don't believe it's packaged for debian, but check out the usual suspects for a link (google, freshmeat). It compiles cleanly on my testing box. cheers, damon PS. I believe you can do this with FlaskMPEG on windows, but you wouldn't be asking on a debian list if you wanted to do it in windows, would you? -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Did a large procession wave their torches As my head fell in the basket, And was everybody dancing on the casket... -- TBMG, Dead
[OT] Re: rm download
Quoth Hereward Cooper, The protocal is the problem, the http server is not the same as the realserver (neither is ftp, ssh, telnet, etc...), and so can't be got in the same way. If the file is avaliable through http, then it can be downloaded so, but the realserver protocal require a supported reader (ie http - browser, rtsp - realplayer). I'm actually behind a completely fascist BOFH firewall all of the time, and can only access the outside world using a squid http proxy. Realplayer (at least current version), will let you view most realplayer streams through a http proxy. So it shouldn't be impossible to put a sniffer on the wire and look at what it does to use http. Whatever it does can probably be simulated and spooled directly to the disk. Of course, I can't try this myself, as the fascist firewall is now twice as bad, requiring authentication. Realplayer doesn't support authentication over http proxies, unfortunately. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Murder most foul, as in the best it is; But this most foul, strange and unnatural. -- Hamlet
Re: can't mount smbfs
Quoth Michael Heldebrant, On Mon, 2001-09-17 at 12:01, Bob Koss wrote: I attempt to mount my win98 box known as thinkpad-wired on my linux box: bear:~# mount -t smbfs //thinkpad-wired/E /mnt/thinkpad-winblows session request to THINKPAD-WIRED failed session request to *SMBSERVER failed SMB connection failed bear:~# I too have seen something similar since I updated my kernel from 2.4.7 to 2.4.9-ac10 (at least, I've only noticed it since I changed my kernel). smbclient also seems to be misbehaving. I haven't spent any real time debugging this, as samba still works the other way (my token windoze games machine can still access my samba shares on my linux box). Anyone got smbfs working on a recent kernel? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Murder most foul, as in the best it is; But this most foul, strange and unnatural. -- Hamlet
Re: courier-imap: cannot bind (potato)
Quoth Martin F Krafft, hi, i am running potato on one of our computers, it sports courier-imap bound to localhost only. however, during init, it reports Cannot bind to address or something similar - and doesn't start. starting manually from init.d, however, works. Cannot bind usually suggests you are running something else on one of the ports that it wants to listen on (Courier, from memory, supports imap, imap over ssl, and it's own authentication daemon, all of which will probably want a port of their own). If all else fails, try lsof and netstat --listen. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Murder most foul, as in the best it is; But this most foul, strange and unnatural. -- Hamlet
Re: sniffers
Quoth Alvin Oga, just curious is there any free/gpl'd version of the FBIs carnivore am thinking that when people/managers start to call around for a security audit of their computers/networks... that we all have a one heads up on sniffers and network traffic analysis and ids, etc..etc.. am looking for a pkg that reassembles emails from the packets ( dont care that the email packets is encrypted ... Have a look into dsniff. Unfortunately, I've never been able to get it to complile on a debian machine, but some (most?) of the binaries in the redhat RPM seem to work when extracted. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne It's not a sense of humor. It's a sense of irony disguised as one. -- Bruce Sterling
Re: OT: WinLinux
Quoth Karsten M. Self, I'd recommend a tool such as Win4Lin over either of the prior suggestions. You're working from GNU/Linux to a lesser OS. You get pretty full Win98 support, and the option to administer the box centrally, without having to suffer through dual boots or reduced performance due to HW emulation. The win4lin site does not seem to have released any patches or modules for any kernels newer than 2.4.5 (I think). The company that makes it (Trelos, or something), also recently featured on fuckedcompany.com. I think it's pretty safe to say that, if you go with win4lin, you're not going to be able to upgrade your kernel any time soon. I was going to install it myself, but after having waited for months for any sign of new kernel patches, decided to give VMWare a go instead. Using the function to suspend the guest OS to disk makes jumping in and out of windows a breeze. And with the price of RAM at the moment, running another OS has minimal impact on my system. Of course, I'm happy to be corrected about the untimely demise of win4lin. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne My conscience hath a thousand several tongues, And every tongue brings in a several tale, And every tale condemns me for a villain. -- Richard III
Re: Matrox G450 comments?
Quoth Gregory T. Norris, I need to replace the video card on one of my boxes, and I'm thinking of getting a Matrox G450. I'd appreciate any comments on how well this card is working for people. I don't have any real need for dual-head support, so I don't plan on using the binary-only mga.o driver from Matrox... I'd greatly prefer to stick with the XFree86 driver, if possible. I'm currently running a G450 with an up-to-date woody, and I'm very happy with it. It has a great quality 2D display (although your monitor will contribute to this), and it runs the odd 3d app (Quake 3A) really well. The MGADesk utility is a bit of a first for linux, and makes it very easy to set up your X display properly. Of course, you need the binary modules from Matrox to run it. The only issue that I have is that I can't get it to run in 32-bit at 1240x1024, which you'd think it should be able to do. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Did a large procession wave their torches As my head fell in the basket, And was everybody dancing on the casket... -- TBMG, Dead
Re: Mozilla is invisible
Hi Stefan, Quoth Stefan Deibel, I took first mozilla 0.9.1 and later mozilla-0.9.3 from unstable, compiled and installed it in woody. First everything worked all right, except that home banking with the downloaded JRE was everything else but performant. However, after upgrading in memory from 128 MB to 512 MB and installing a game from a Linux User CD, Mozilla starts 4 never ending mozilla-bin processes but is completely unusable. There is not even a mozila window any more. What the hell is going wrong? I don't know if this is your problem, but I had a problem which had similar symptoms - you'd start mozilla, and the processes showed up, but the window never appeared. Under recent versions of gnome there is a little app called Xalf, which is designed to give feedback on programs loading. For some reason, it doesn't like mozilla (or mozilla doesn't like it). Removing this program (ie., apt-get remove --purge xalf), or starting mozilla from an xterm (or your favourite analogue), may solve this problem for you - it did for me. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation. Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men. -- The Art of War (Sun Tsu)
Re: Encrypted Filesystems
Quoth Rog?rio Brito, I'm also interested in encrypted filesystems and I think that the only way to go (reasonable one, that is) is to use the international kernel patch available at http://www.kerneli.org/. I remember seeing a project recently which was a kernel module which allowed you to have encrypted loopback devices with patching the kernel of using the international kernel patch. However, I can't remember for the life of me what it was called or where I saw it, and a quick search on google and freshmeat has not helped. If anyone knows what I'm talking about, please post the name/url of the project to the list. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne And thus I clothe my naked villany With old odd ends stolen out of holy writ; And seem a saint, when most I play the devil. -- Richard III
Re: Wanda the fish
Quoth Kurt Dresner, Wanda the fish just randomly swam across my screen. What the heck is going on with my computer? Presumably you're running GNOME. I remember reading somewhere that it's one of the (many?) GNOME easter eggs. I don't really know anything more about it, but I believe it's harmless. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation. Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men. -- The Art of War (Sun Tsu)
Re: matrox g450 and dri
Quoth Matthew Garman, I'm trying to get DRI to work with my new Matrox Millenium g450. It's the dual head, 32 MB ram version. I only have one monitor, so I really don't need the second head :) Yep, i have the same setup. Anyway, here's my setup: Debian v2.2 (potato), but with the XFree86 4.1.0 binaries installed from people.debian.org/~cpbotha/. I'm running a self-compiled kernel version 2.4.7. I think the version of X is your problem. The modules from the Matrox site seem to be specific to the various point releases of X 4. Last time I looked, they only supported 4.03 (the version currently in testing). Try downgrading to the testing version and see if that works (yeah, a pain, but you do want to see those screensavers in all their gl glory, don't you?). Still the problem persists. The most suspect line my /var/log/XFree86.0.log file is this one: (EE) MGA(0): [drm] MGADRIScreenInit failed (DRI version = 4.0.0, expected 3.0.x). Disabling DRI. While I don't know for sure, this error message suggests that these particular drivers are for X 3.x Since I'm not really sure how all these pieces fit together, I'm not sure what file needs to be upgraded (or downgraded?). The version of X4 in testing works fine for me. I suspect that I might have to put it on Hold for when 4.10 creeps into testing unless Matrox get their arses into gear and release new drivers. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne We are such stuff As dreams are made on, and our little life Is rounded with a sleep. -- The Tempest
Freeing up lost memory
Hi gang, I foolishly left Opera 5 overnight last night. It seems that it leaks memory like a sieve, as when I woke up this morning, I had only about 50M of my 512M of RAM free. This is after a reboot last night (installed 2.4.7-ac2), which pretty much nothing else running. Anyway, I'm wondering if there is any way to get the RAM back without a reboot. While a reboot wouldn't kill me, know if it's possible may be able to help me (or someone else) in the future. I tried shutting pretty much everything down, and it didn't seem to help significantly. Even resorting to telinit 1, which left only the following processes running: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 1 0.0 0.0 1252 456 ?SJul28 0:04 init [ root 2 0.0 0.0 00 ?ZJul28 0:00 [kpnpbios defunct] root 3 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul28 0:00 [keventd] root 4 0.0 0.0 00 ?SWN Jul28 0:00 [ksoftirqd_CPU0] root 5 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul28 0:02 [kswapd] root 6 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul28 0:00 [kreclaimd] root 7 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul28 0:00 [bdflush] root 8 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul28 0:04 [kupdated] root 9 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul28 0:00 [scsi_eh_0] root10 0.0 0.0 00 ?SW Jul28 0:00 [kreiserfsd] root 17557 0.0 0.0 1252 472 tty1 S16:36 0:00 init [ root 17558 0.0 0.2 2368 1436 tty1 S16:36 0:00 bash root 17571 0.0 0.2 3272 1468 tty1 R16:37 0:00 ps auxw But still, all my precious RAM is nowhere to be seen: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:513464 359332 154132 0 6332 131384 -/+ buffers/cache: 221616 291848 Swap: 264996 5192 259804 Now, maybe this is something not worth worring about, but I really am curious as to where it's all going. cheers, damon PS. I'm tracking testing, if it's relevant. -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I shall despair. There is no creature loves me; And if I die, no soul shall pity me: Nay, wherefore should they, since that I myself Find in myself no pity to myself? -- Richard III
Hardware OpenGL not working in full screen
Hi folks, It's seems that ever since I did my last dist-upgrade on testing, I've got something weird happening with my hardware graphics rendering. I'm running a 32M Matrox G450 (with X 4.03, I think - whatever's in testing at the moment), and usually the gl screensavers (the only programs I think I have which do hardware gl) look fantasic and smooth. Since I've done my last upgrade, however, they don't. It seems to be doing software rendering - they aren't nearly as smooth and they use well over two thirds of the CPU. Interestingly, however, X seems to report that DRI/DRM is enabled and working (both from xdpyinfo and /var/log/XFree86.log). When running the xscreensaver-gl hacks manually, they work fine. For example running pulsar, I get between 60 and 90 fps both as a window, and running on the root window. Running it from xscreensaver-demo gives me less than 10fps. I checked bugs.debian.org, and there doesn't seem to be any bugs filed against xscreensaver-gl (or xscreensaver), so I'm wondering if I'm the only one seeing this, or if it's just xscreensaver-gl specific. FWIW, Quake3 still runs fantastically, and is obviously using hardware 3d. If there any other simple, full-screen gl programs that I might be able to use to test? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I shall despair. There is no creature loves me; And if I die, no soul shall pity me: Nay, wherefore should they, since that I myself Find in myself no pity to myself? -- Richard III
Re: Freeing up lost memory
Quoth Osamu Aoki, On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 04:48:05PM +1000, Damon Muller wrote: Hi gang, I foolishly left Opera 5 overnight last night. It seems that it leaks memory like a sieve, as when I woke up this morning, I had only about 50M of my 512M of RAM free. This is after a reboot last night (installed 2.4.7-ac2), which pretty much nothing else running. Did you set lilo.conf right before reboot? append=mem=512M Sorry, perhaps I was unclear. Linux sees the memory, but some unknown, unseen application seems to have gobbled it all up, and I want it back. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne It's not a sense of humor. It's a sense of irony disguised as one. -- Bruce Sterling
Re: default ispell dictionary
Quoth Ivan Mour?o, Could someone tell me how to change the default ispell dictionary. I don't know if this will help you, as you haven't specified in what context you use ispell, however I have the following in my .emacs (setq ispell-dictionary british) (setq flyspell-default-dictionary british) cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I go, and it is done; the bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan; for it is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to hell. -- Macbeth
Re: [OT] BibTeX style
Quoth Jesper Holmberg, In short, I'm looking for a BibTeX style file which includes the URL of a document, and some simple instructions how to install the file on my system. Although you have another reply in this thread which seems to work for you, another alternative might be to use the APACite style, which implements the style of the Publication Manual of the American Psychological Association. This has allowances for online publications (I believe), as it's part of the APA spec. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I go, and it is done; the bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan; for it is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to hell. -- Macbeth
Re: Reading .doc files from within Mutt
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED], On Mon, Jul 23, 2001 at 09:36:19PM +0200, Alexander Steinert wrote: What is the best (simplest) way to read .doc files from within Mutt? /etc/mailcap: application/msword; /usr/bin/antiword '%s'; copiousoutput; description=Microsoft Word Text; nametemplate=%s.doc and (if you want) ~/.vimrc: auto_view application/msword I missed this the first time round, but I think this should have been ~/.muttrc, not ~/.vimrc Nice trick, BTW. damon -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne I go, and it is done; the bell invites me. Hear it not, Duncan; for it is a knell That summons thee to heaven or to hell. -- Macbeth
Mozilla not loading while sound playing
Hi all, I've recently installed a new sound card, a Vibra128 PCI, which uses the es1371 driver. Previously I had an ISA vibra16 using the OSS/Free sb driver. Since I've got the new card working (a bit of messing around with IRQs), I've run into a problem where Mozilla wont load while xmms is playing mp3s. Pausing, or stopping, xmms allows Mozilla to load, but it wont load until the sound has stopped. I'm almost certain that I didn't have the same problem with my old sound card. I'm running 2.4.6-ac2, debian testing, and the latest Mozilla nightly. ESD is running, and xmms uses the ESD output plugin. Any suggestions? damon. -- Damon Muller :: Department of Criminology :: University of Melbourne It's not a sense of humor. It's a sense of irony disguised as one. -- Bruce Sterling
Debconf failing on libpgsql2.1
Hi folks, I'm running testing and recently did a dist-upgrade, however it failed on libpgsql2.1 with the following error, which looks like it might be Debconf related. [rei:~]% sudo apt-get -f install Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libpgsql2.1 The following packages will be REMOVED: libpgsql2 The following NEW packages will be installed: libpgsql2.1 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 1 to remove and 210 not upgraded. 9 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/53.8kB of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (Can't modify goto in lvalue subroutine return at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Base.pm line 24, near } Compilation failed in require at (eval 4) line 3. ...propagated at /usr/share/perl/5.6.1/base.pm line 18. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Iterator.pm line 5. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 7. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Question.pm line 7. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 5. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Config.pm line 5. Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Log.pm line 8. Compilation failed in require at (eval 1) line 4. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 1) line 4. ) -- aborting (Reading database ... 147121 files and directories currently installed.) Removing libpgsql2 ... /var/lib/dpkg/info/libpgsql2.prerm: /etc/postgresql/postmaster.conf: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing libpgsql2 (--remove): subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: libpgsql2 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [rei:~]% If of interest, my installed version of Debconf, and perl [rei:~]% dpkg -l debconf\* Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) ||/ Name VersionDescription +++-==-==- ii debconf0.9.41 Debian configuration management system un debconf-docnone (no description available) un debconf-tiny none (no description available) ii debconf-utils 0.9.41 Debconf utilities [rei:~]% dpkg -l perl\* | grep ^i iU perl 5.6.1-4Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report ii perl-5.004-doc 5.004.05-6 Man pages and pod docs for Perl ii perl-5.005 6.1Transitional package. ii perl-5.005-bas 6.1Transitional package. ii perl-5.6 6.1Transitional package. ii perl-base 5.6.1-4The Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister. iU perl-modules 5.6.1-4Core Perl modules. ii perl-tk800.022-1 Perl module providing the Tk graphics librar ii perlmagick 5.30-5 A perl interface to the libMagick graphics r ii perlsgml 19970918-9 tools to build and analyze SGML document typ Cheers, d. -- Damon Muller | Homicide is, no matter what else it might Department of Criminology | be, a social relationship. University of Melbourne| -- Paul Bonnana
Re: cryptographic file systems for use with 2.4 kernel?
Hi Forrest, Quoth Forrest English, i was looking into TCFS but it looks like it is only supposed to work on a 2.2 kernel, and my laptop is using a 2.4 kernel (if it's stolen, i don't want some of the data on here being read...) so basicaly i'm wondering if there are any options out there for a crypto file system that is compatible with linux 2.4.5. CFS works well. I've been using it quite successfully for a few years now. There is even a debian package for it (and it even works these days). It doesn't seem to be under active development, but it does work for me. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Homicide is, no matter what else it might Department of Criminology | be, a social relationship. University of Melbourne| -- Paul Bonnana
Re: AVI Player
Quoth Cameron Matheson, Hey, Mplayer works great. (http://mplayer.sourceforge.net) I'll second that. I've just compiled a recent version, and it seems pretty self-contained (no need to play find-the-library). Also has a nice On Screen Display (you have to download the fonts separately). Would be nice if it was packaged for Debian... cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Homicide is, no matter what else it might Department of Criminology | be, a social relationship. University of Melbourne| -- Paul Bonnana
kernel, 2.4.5, and, Lite-On, LNE100TX, NIC
Hi folks, This is a little OT for this list, but I thought I'd ask around here before annoying the kernel gods on the kernel list. At the moment I'm running 2.4.3-ac7 with no real problems. I have an ethernet card which identifies itself thusly to lspci 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20) This uses dhcpcd to get an IP address to connect to the outside world. I also have another NIC, which also uses the tulip chipset (as does the one above) to connect to my local lan. I tried upgrading to both 2.4.5 and 2.4.5-ac1 last night, and with both of these kernels, my NIC was unable to connect to the dhcp server to get an ip address. If I rebooted back into the 2.4.3-ac7 kernel, it works fine again. The other NIC works fine, regardless. Is there anyone else here who is having problems with that kernel and that NIC? I haven't yet established whether it's the card or dhcpcd or a combination of both, unfortunately. Any advice on how to further diagnose the possible problem? Any other info that would be helpful? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Homicide is, no matter what else it might Department of Criminology | be, a social relationship. University of Melbourne| -- Paul Bonnana
Re: Running X apps in Windows
Quoth Joel Mayes, On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 05:33:46PM -0500, Jonathan Daugherty wrote: Does anyone know of a FREE package allowing one to run an X app on a linux box in such a way that it can be used across a network on a windows box, in the same way that X apps can be run over networks? G'day Jonathan, You might look at LINE, a program that attempts to be for windows what WINE is for Linux, it's still in Alpha development. http://line.sourceforge.net/ Try WeirdX http://www.jcraft.com/weirdx/ It's a free X implementation in Java which runs on Windows. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
[OT] Re: [users] Re: vim tip-o-rama
Quoth Brian Nelson, Did I miss any? My personal favourite is Generally Not Used Except by Middle Aged Computer Scientists. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: spam here and there
Quoth Jaye Inabnit ke6sls, I am getting this now in my private email here as well as via the debian-user list. I assume my address came from this list. Are others on this list getting this personally too? Not only is this spammer spamming the list, they are harvesting email addresses out of old list archives[1]. This is *very* annoying. If you are using maildrop, add the following to your ~/.mailfilter # Some arsehole spammer if (/^Received: from .*hinet-ip\.hinet\.net/) exit I'm sure someone will post the procmail equivalent. cheers, damon [1] One of the nice things about using qmail is if you set up a .qmail-blah-default in ~alias then you can create an infinite number of disposable email addresses (say, to put in your signature for email address harvesters). When that address gets abused, just create the appopriate ~alias/.qmail-blah-whatever (with bouncesaying, for example), which will effectively kill that email address. Only useful, of course, if you control your own mail server. (props to Russ Nelson for the idea years about on the qmail mailing list.) -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
lm_sensors and ABit KT7A
Hi folks, I recently upgraded up system from a K6-2 350, to a K7 900, running on an ABit KT7A Motherboard. This is all well and good and works fine and is very stable... Anyway, I was reading recently about using lm_sensors to display things like the CPU temperature and stuff. So I decided to go and download it and install it when I installed my new kernel (2.4.3-ac7). As far as I can tell, I've installed all the right things into the kernel (all compiled in, rathen than as modules) [rei:~]% grep I2C /usr/src/linux/.config|grep -v ^# CONFIG_I2C=y CONFIG_I2C_ALGOBIT=y CONFIG_I2C_ALGOPCF=y CONFIG_I2C_MAINBOARD=y CONFIG_I2C_VIA=y CONFIG_I2C_VIAPRO=y CONFIG_I2C_ISA=y CONFIG_I2C_CHARDEV=m [rei:~]% grep SENSORS /usr/src/linux/.config|grep -v ^# CONFIG_SENSORS=y CONFIG_SENSORS_VIA686A=y CONFIG_SENSORS_OTHER=y It looks like the kernel is happy enough that it's seeing the sensors (or something): [rei:~]% cat /proc/bus/i2c i2c-0 smbus SMBus vt82c596 adapter at 5000 Non-I2C SMBus adapter i2c-1 dummy ISA main adapterISA bus algorith I downloaded and compiled the source (lm_sensors-2.5.5.tar.gz), and that seemed to go okay. And /usr/local/sbin/sensors-detect is pretty happy about telling me I have it all set up correctly. However, when it doesn't seem to work: [rei:~]% sensors -s No sensors found! I'm pretty sure I've read everything that came with the package - I'm sure I have missed something small. Does anyone with a similar configuration to me have it working? Would you care to share any insights? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: The Heart Is An Open Source: A Romance
I've got to say, this is the first 100+ line message I've read on the list for ages, and it was worth every prescious second! We *are* amused :) blantant troll Although a real man would have been running qmail and courier-imap... /blantant troll Quoth Jaldhar H. Vyas, snip! THE END...OR IS IT? -- Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: xcdroast and devfs
Quoth Brian May, Is it possible to copy a CD using command line tools? (for legal reasons of course) If it's a data CD, just create an image with: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/image.iso then write it with cdrecord. I believe it's actually possible to have the output piped directly to cdrecord, but I don't know the switches off the top of my head. Also creating the image first is less likely to result in a coaster. If it's a music CD, use cdparanoia (from the people who later bought us ogg vorbis), then cdrecord. Or use cdrao (or something like that). Personally, when I have used cd burners, usually I'll use gcombust, which works well. I started off with command line tools, however, and they work well. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: user masquerading with qmail
Quoth Florian Reiser, where do I have to put MAILHOST and MAILUSER to get user masquerading with qmail working? In the FAQ they say you should put them in your environment. So I've put them in the .bashrc of the user, but the user wasn't masqueraded. So what is the correct place for these variables? It depends a little on what you're doing. Calling mutt in an Eterm, for example (like I do), didn't set it, so I just created a little wrapper script: #!/bin/sh QMAILUSER=blah QMAILHOST=blah.com http_proxy=http://proxy:8080/; export QMAILUSER QMAILHOST http_proxy /usr/bin/mutt which seems to work well. Another alternative is putting them in your .xinitrc (I do this for my http_proxy environment variable so that the screensaver which downloads and displays random images uses the proxy server). If worst came to worst, I guess you could call your mail program as: env QMAILUSER=blah QMAILHOST=blah.com mailprog I guess that'd work. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: DROPPED: OT : GUI Interfaces
Never used it, so YMMV http://linuz.sns.it/~max/twin/ cheers, damon Quoth Joris Lambrecht, oh well, i'll DROP this subject, apparently there is NO reasoning possible on this subject -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: GPG: connection refused, pgp.ai.mit.edu
Quoth Karsten M. Self, I'm reading messages in queue right now and just got the following message when trying to retrieve a key from pgp.ai.mit.edu: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Thu 12 Apr 2001 01:35:58 AM PDT) --] gpg: Signature made Thu 12 Apr 2001 12:30:19 AM PDT using DSA key ID 07182FBC gpg: requesting key 07182FBC from pgp.ai.mit.edu ... gpg: can't get key from keyserver: Connection refused gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found I'm finding I can't connect to the keyserver using gpg from the command line either. E.g.: $ gpg --send-keys karsten gpg: can't connect to `pgp.ai.mit.edu': Connection refused (exit status: 2) Anyone else seeing this? I'm also curious as to what port(s) pgp/gpg uses to communicate with the server, I don't know this myself. I believe that gpg uses http to communicate with the server, as it's able to do it without additional assistance over a box-standard http proxy (squid). I have the following in my ~/.gnupg/options keyserver wwwkeys.us.pgp.net keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net keyserver search.keyserver.net I have tried commenting out search.keyserver.net, but that just hangs, unable to connect to the other servers. FWIW, I believe that wwwkeys.pgp.net is on a round-robbin DNS, so will randomly pick one of the keyservers. When trying to connect over the web to pgp.ai.mit.edu, I get: ERROR The requested URL could not be retrieved While trying to retrieve the URL: http://pgp.ai.mit.edu/ The following error was encountered: * Connection Failed The system returned: (61) Connection refused The remote host or network may be down. Please try the request again. Maybe their server is down... cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Mozilla/WindowMaker: autorise on page load
Quoth Dave Carrigan, It used to do this to me in sawfish, but either a newer version of sawfish, or the the latest builds of mozilla mean that it's not doing it any more. I'll tell you something about sawfish that's even more annoying. I have focus follows mouse and autoraise set to 500ms. But, if a Mozilla window gets the focus, it ignores the autoraise delay, so if my mouse strays even half a millimeter onto a mozilla window, it's instantly brought to the top. I can't even move my mouse from one window to another without tracing a tortuous path trying to avoid all mozilla windows. Now that's annoying. That is actually a known bug. If you get a recent nightly of Mozilla (not 0.81, it's bloody awfull), it should be fixed. But in relation to Karsten's problem, yes, when a mozilla window opens a new page, it also comes to the top for me. Very annoying - lets just hope someone has filed a bug and they are working on it. It's not wmaker specific, because the same thing happens to me, running a recent nightly and sawfish 0.37.2-ximian. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: few questions about .deb
Quoth M G Berberich, Hello, I have a few questions about Debian-packages: - Is there an easy way (not ar+tar) to see what files a package will install bevor it is installed? (after install 'dpkg -L' will do it) eval `/usr/bin/lesspipe` less filename.deb is one way... cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: [OT] graphics card recommandation
Quoth Stephan Kulka, I searched the archives and some hardware pages, but I couldn't find anything useful. So I ask the question: I am looking for a graphics card for using it mainly for office programs, but also sometimes for a good game. It is not necessary for drawing CAD or the like. I thought about a Matrox, because they should be a good average and also not that expensive. Any other ideas?? Hi Stephen, I'm running at 32M Matrox G450 in my machine, using XFree 4.02 (from testing). It's a nice card, and give me a good picture on my 17 Diamondview (a trinatron screen). However, it's not without its issues. I've had heaps of problems getting the framebuffer running properly (boot to a screen full of garbage, which doesn't prevent X from running). Also it requires binary modules to run optimally with X4, which can be downloaded freely from the Matrox web site. While I believe that it may run without the binary modules (not sure), to get the best performance, you're relying on non-free binary drivers. This may or may not be an issue for you. 3D performance under X4 seems to be okay, at least for the gl xscreensaver modules. However, the loki demos (such as Soldier of Fortune) do not run well for me. They are so choppy as to be unplayable. I'm not sure if this is an issue of the card, the xserver, the mesa libraries, or the game, however. Just be aware that if you think you're going to be doing 3d gamining under Linux with this card, you may not get the performance you'd want (then again, this may just be me). Overall, I'm happy with it. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: your mail
Quoth David Liu, Dear Friends, I would like to know if I can run MS terminal server on Debian 2.2. Thanks and best regards/David Liu I'm not sure it's exactly what you're asking, but you can run the Citrix ICA client for Linux quite successfully on Debian. If you are running the Unix Integration Services, you can also use something like Xnest to connect to it from within debian. Not sure about straight terminal server, however. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Logitech Mouseman+/Logitech Mouseman Wheel
Hi Andrew, Quoth Andrew Clark, Just wondering if anyone has had success getting a Logitech Mouseman+ (aka Logitech Mouseman Wheel) working under XFree86 v4.0.2, wheel and all? I have a logitech MouseMan+ (with a wheel, 5 buttons, bloody huge, but very comfortable), working comfortably with X4 (testing). It's working through the gpm repeater, so here all all the relevant bits: This allows me to use the mouse wheel (imwheel is not required, most X programs support it natively), and the thumbwheel for pasting. Cheers, damon [rei:~]% cat /etc/gpm.conf # /etc/gpm.conf - configuration file for gpm(1) # # If mouse response seems to be to slow, try using # responsiveness=15. append can contain any random arguments to be # appended to the commandline. # # If you edit this file by hand, please be aware it is sourced by # /etc/init.d/gpm and thus all shell meta characters must be # protected from evaluation (i.e. by quoting them). # # This file is used by /etc/init.d/gpm and can be modified by # /usr/sbin/gpmconfig. # device=/dev/psaux responsiveness=15 type=imps2 append=-l \a-zA-Z0-9_.:~/\300-\326\330-\366\370-\377\ repeat_type=raw (From /etc/X11/XF86Config-4) Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/gpmdata Option Protocol imps/2 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: job control
Quoth Brian May, Erik == Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Erik nohup, I think you can also set up the shell not to kill Erik children when it exits (start command in background (append Erik at the end of command line) or background it while it Erik works, usually ctrl-z to stop it, bg to make it continue in Erik background) zsh (probably bash too, but not sure) also has a detach command. So you can detach a shell job from the shell. Once you detach a process you can't put use the fg or bg commands on it anymore. Don't think it works in bash, but in zsh you can just append `!' (no quotes) to the end of the command to detach it. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: pyton perl
Hi Marcelo, Quoth Marcelo Chiapparini, I know this is a stupid question, but I am very new to Linux and I know nothing about script programming. What is the difference between perl and pyton? Why the nedd to create these two diferent programming languages? Well, you've already got lots of opinionated responses, so here's another :) You don't sound like you're a programmer - that's cool, I'm not either. Although, on the odd occasion I've had to do things which have involved writing scripts, so I've had to learn enough to get by. Both perl and python (and while we're talking p-languages, php, which is a little more specialised, but similar) are both cool. They are both pretty easy to learn to do simple things. However mastery of either would seem to require some dedication. There is some pop-psychology thing about left brain being creative and right brain being logical (or something, I only have one degree in psychology, and it didn't cover pop psychology)... Perl seems better suited to the untamed creatives, python to the logical conservatives (not *politically* conservative, but more streamlined thinkers). If you doodle in lectures, you'll probably be happier with perl. If you take notes in lots of dot points that are highly structured, python might be more your cup of tea (if you're interested, I'm more the later than the former). Overall, this is all highly subjective and speculative (and probably highly inaccurate)... Both are free, and have lots of online documentation. You'll be a better person for knowing either of them, but certainly have a play with both before you make any hard and fast decisions. But remember, to be a truely self-absorbed, prescious, self-ritcheous unix god-wannabe, you can't go past LISP :) cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Mounting Linux 2.4 NFS share on an OpenBSD 2.8 machine
Hi folks, I have an OpenBSD 2.8 machine that I've been building up, and is sitting on my LAN. I want to back it up, so I was intending to mount a directory from my Debain GNU/Linux (Testing with 2.4.1-ac2) onto the BSD box. I added /tmp to the exports file: # /etc/exports: the access control list for filesystems which may be exported # to NFS clients. See exports(5). /null localhost /tmp 192.168.13.0/255.255.255.0(rw) # Automatically added for use by cfs /.cfsfs localhost(rw) # Cryptographic Filesystem export And restared /etc/init.d/nfs-server. I went to the BSD box (narcolepsy), and ran: [narcolepsy:~]% mount rei:/tmp /mnt mount_nfs: can't access /tmp: Permission denied On my Debian box (rei), I got the following in the logs: Mar 25 12:06:49 rei mountd[18186]: NFS mount of /tmp attempted from 192.168.13.70 Mar 25 12:06:49 rei mountd[18186]: NFS request from narcolepsy originated on insecure port, psychoanalysis suggested Mar 25 12:06:49 rei mountd[18186]: Blocked attempt of 192.168.13.70 to mount /tmp I didn't think that there was anything particularly strange about what I did, so I'm at a bit of a loss. I'm not sure what it means by insecure port, and whether it's a BSD or Linux issue. I'm a lot more familiar with Linux than BSD, FWIW. I have the following in /etc/hosts.allow ALL: 192.168.13.0/255.255.255.0 which would hopefully not stop narcolepsy (192.168.13.70) to accessing it. Any suggestions or pointers to appropriate documentation would be greatly appreciated. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: rage128 not enough for tux racer?
Quoth Charles Lewis, No errors, but the following lines puzzle me. (**) R128(0): DPMS enabled (**) R128(0): Direct rendering disabled I know DRI has been enabled in the kernel. Is there somewhere else that it gets enabled? What bit depth are you using? DRI only works in 16-bit, AFAIK. HTH, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Testing wants to remove most of my system...
Quoth Joey Hess, It's impossible to tell what you're running into since you didn't bother to post the actual apt message or any useful diagnostic information, but you might try removing base-config. Sorry, didn't include the (quite long) output previously on the off chance that it was something simple/obvious. The full apt-get output is included below. [rei:~]% sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done Calculating Upgrade... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: a2ps acct adduser alien arts auctex balsa bonobo bsdmainutils bubblemon bug-buddy cdrdao chbg codecommander crypt++el data-dumper debconf debhelper debview dh-make dia djtools eeyes emacs20 emacsen-common emusic enlightenment enscript equivs esound esound-clients esound-common ethereal extace freeamp gaim-gnome gcd gcombust gdk-imlib-dev gdm gedit ghex ghostview gimp1.1 gimp1.1-nonfree gimp1.1-perl glade-gnome gmc gnome-applets gnome-apt gnome-bin gnome-card-games gnome-control-center gnome-core gnome-games gnome-gataxx gnome-glines gnome-gnibbles gnome-gnobots2 gnome-gnometris gnome-gnomine gnome-gnotravex gnome-gtali gnome-gturing gnome-guile gnome-gv gnome-help gnome-iagno gnome-iconedit gnome-mahjongg gnome-media gnome-network gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-pilot gnome-pim gnome-pim-conduits gnome-same-gnome gnome-session gnome-stones gnome-terminal gnome-utils gnome-xbill gnomehack gnomeicu gnosamba gnotepad+ gnucash gnumeric gnuserv gpasman gphoto gqmpeg gqview grdb grip gs-aladdin gs-pdfencrypt gtk-engines-gtkstep gtk-engines-metal gtk-engines-notif gtk-engines-pixmap gtk-engines-redmond95 gtkfind gtm gtop guitar gv gxanim gxedit helix-sweetpill hyperlatex iceconf icewm-gnome imlib-dev imlib-progs kaiman kmid kmidi kmix kscd latex2html libapache-asp-perl libapache-dbi-perl libapache-dbilogger-perl libapache-mod-perl libcapplet-dev libcapplet0 libdbi-perl libdigest-md5-perl libesd0 libesd0-dev libgconf11 libgdk-pixbuf-dev libgdk-pixbuf-gnome2 libgdk-pixbuf2 libgimp1.1 libgimp1.1-dev libglade-gnome0 libglade0 libgnome-dev libgnome-pilot-dev libgnome-pilot0 libgnome-vfs0 libgnome32 libgnomeprint12 libgnomeprint6 libgnomesupport0 libgnomeui32 libgnorba-dev libgnorba27 libgnorbagtk0 libgtk-imlib-perl libgtk-perl libgtk1.2 libgtk1.2-dev libgtkhtml4 libgtkhtml5 libgtkmm libgtkxmhtml1 libguilegtk0 libmedusa0 libnautilus0 libobgnome0 libobgtk1 libpaperg libpgperl libsdl1.0 libsdl1.1-dev libsmpeg0 libstorable-perl libterm-readkey-perl libwine libwine-dev libwmf0 libzvt2 lilo linpopup lynx magicfilter mailcrypt memprof mozilla mozilla-browser mpage mpg123-esd mswordview mtr mysql-client mysql-server nautilus netpbm pan pdl perl-5.004 perl-5.004-base perl-5.004-suid perl-5.005 perl-tk perlmagick pkg-order premail psgml pstoedit pstotext psutils python-gdk-imlib python-gnome python-gtk realplayer rep-gtk rep-gtk-gnome sawfish sawfish-gnome sawfish-themes screem smpeg-gtv sound-monitor task-helix-core task-kdemultimedia task-tex telnetd timidity uae vim-gtk vlc vlc-gnome vlc-sdl webmagick wmakerconf wmmail wordinspect wxftp-gtk xalf xchat-gnome xemacs20-bin xemacs20-support xemacs21 xemacs21-bin xemacs21-mule xemacs21-support xfntil2 xlogmaster xmms xmms-dev xscreensaver xserver-xfree86 xwhois The following NEW packages will be installed: libperl5.6 perl perl-5.6 perl-modules The following packages have been kept back fetchmail kernel-image-2.2.17 The following packages will be upgraded acroread bsdutils catdoc cron debian-policy diff docbook-stylesheets eperl fftw2 file groff hdparm ibritish ispell libhdf4g libio-stringy-perl libmime-base64-perl libmime-perl libmldbm-perl libstringlist0 libtimedate-perl libxml-dev libxml1 mlock mount mutt net-tools oidentd pdksh perl-5.005-base perl-base shellutils ssystem stat sudo tcsh tcsh-i18n unhtml untex util-linux w3m wavtools wenglish xdaliclock xnetload 45 packages upgraded, 4 newly installed, 248 to remove and 2 not upgraded. 2 packages not fully installed or removed. Need to get 19.0MB of archives. After unpacking 528MB will be freed. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead pgpDdv1Bbtfde.pgp Description: PGP signature
Testing wants to remove most of my system...
Hi gang, I've been tracking testing, but only sporadically. It's probably 2 weeks or so since I last did an upgrade. When I attempted it today (using dist-upgrade), it looked like apt wanted to remove most of my system. I'm guessing that the issue is perl related, as the new packages to be installed were all perl ones. Is there any way to work around this (just do an upgrade, rather than a dist-upgrade and ignore all the ones that have been held back?)? My impression is that, the way things get into testing, it'll probably be some weeks before it sorts itself out. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead pgpf19KG6AqKX.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: XFree86 4.0.2 and Matrox G400
Quoth Lee Elliott, I'm not able to get hardware rendering/GL running on my G400. Kernel is currently 2.4.0-test11 (2.4.0 was a bit wobbly for me - haven't d/loaded 2.4.1 yet) and I'm getting the follwing error in /var/log/XFre86.0.log I don't know if this will help for your particular problem, but Matrox has recently (within the last few days) released a new set of driver modules for X 4.02 The drivers are available here: http://www.matrox.com/mga/support/drivers/latest/home.cfm While I had problems with the last lot of drivers, I now have dri working perfectly with my G450. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Sig 11 in X4.02 using Matrox G450
Quoth Damon Muller, Quoth Frederik Vanrenterghem, This is a link to the Matrox linux users forum. In this forum, you'll find many questions regarding the G450 and X4.02. Essentially, it seems to boil down to this: sorry, it doesn't work very well yet, wait for a driver update. If you do find a way to get, using Debian packages, everything up and running OK, feel free to share :-) Checking out the Matrox site today to find the correct formum, I noticed that beta 1.01.05 is now out. Might try that and see if it's any better. Sorry to reply to myself, but I've tried X4.02 with the new matrox drivers and would like to report complete success. Running at 16bpp, I now have working hardware acceleration! woo hoo! All I need now is to work out why apt can't find xmame-gl and tuxracer in unstable! cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Corel WP 2000 and X4.02/testing
Hi gang, I have wp2000 installed on my system, which I recently updated to testing, including X4.02. I haven't used wp2000 since I updated, but when I went to do it today, it didn't work. I got an error about the font server not running, which I presume is the fontastic font server, which wp2000 uses. The process is running (fontfs), and netstat --listen shows something listening on port 7102. Looking back at my old X3.x XF86Config file, there is no entry for it in the font list, so I presume that it works that out itself. Is anyone running wp2000 under X4+? If so, did you have to do anything special to get it running? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: X4 debs for potato (can find in list archives)
Quoth Fabricio Matheus Goncalves, We're trying to install a potato system on an Intel box, and it seems that the chipset (i815E, came with a D815EEA motherboard) is only supported by X 4. We did't find anything in the list archives (and we're also having some problems behind MS firewalls and proxies...), but I sem to recall something about X4 debs for potato somewhere... Could someone point us to the right direction, please? # XFree86 4.02 for Potato (not needed now that it's in testing!) #deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/i386/ #deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ecpbotha/ xf402_potato/all/ -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Sig 11 in X4.02 using Matrox G450
Quoth Frederik Vanrenterghem, This is a link to the Matrox linux users forum. In this forum, you'll find many questions regarding the G450 and X4.02. Essentially, it seems to boil down to this: sorry, it doesn't work very well yet, wait for a driver update. If you do find a way to get, using Debian packages, everything up and running OK, feel free to share :-) Checking out the Matrox site today to find the correct formum, I noticed that beta 1.01.05 is now out. Might try that and see if it's any better. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Potato and kernel 2.4
Quoth Morten Bo Johansen, I was wondering if anyone could provide me with a link explaining the steps one needs to take to install a 2.4 kernel on a potato system. I suppose that several packages (e.g. pppd) need to be updated to get a functioning system.. Since no-one else has provided a step-by-step guide, I've give it a go based on what I did. Some of this you will already know, but I'm trying to be complete! NB: `*' used when I couldn't be bothered finding out what the file was actually called. Tab-completion is your friend here! 1) Download the kernel % wget http://your.kernel.mirror/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 2) Unpack it into the directory you want to build it % tar xIvpf linux-2.4.1.tar.bz2 /usr/src 3) Download the ac patches if you are adventurous and/or have issues that they help resolve. % wget % http://your.kernel.mirror/pub/linux/kernel/people/alan/2.4/patch-2.4.1-ac2.bz2 4) Apply any patches % cd linux ; bzcat ~/downloads/patch-2.4.1-ac2.bz2 | patch -p 1 5) Build your kernel % make menuconfig % make kpkg-clean ; fakeroot make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image 6) Download any extra bits and pieces you need. You at least need modutils-2.4.x, and may need reiserfsprogs and/or devfsd. You will probably need to get these from sid and compile them yourself, so: 6a) Add: deb-src http://your.debian.mirror/debian unstable main contrib non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list 6b) Download and build your needed apps: % apt-get source modutils % cd modutils-2.4.* % debian/rules binary 6c) Install your new packages # dpkg --install ../modutils*.deb 7) Install your kernel # dpkg --install kernel_image*.deb 8) Double check that you have a sane /etc/lilo.conf 9) Cross your fingers and re-boot. That should be all you need to do, although getting the right options in the new kernel can take a bit of work, so be prepared to compile it a few times (I think I did it about 8 times before I got everything I wanted, and then 2.4.1 was out!) Also be aware that it seems to take a lot longer to compile that older kernels do. On an up-to-date potato, I suspect that modutils is really all you have to upgrade (maybe ppp, if you use it, I don't, so I don't know). Building the source packages from sid is quick and easy, however, so go nuts. I don't believe you have to do anything silly like upgrade gcc. Please note that all this is off the top of my head, so corrections are welcome, and YMMV. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: XMMS, esd, and 2.4 kernel?
Quoth Richard Black, I haven't been able to get a sound out of anything that uses esd (e.g. with xmms) since I upgraded to 2.4.0. I can play sound from xmms directly to alsa (at least, I think that is what I'm doing :-)) when I am root, but that is it. While my esd is still working, sound from it has suddenly become very crap, all choppy and distorted. I think this happened about the time I upgraded to 2.4/X4/testing (all at once, so I don't know what did it). Playing sound without esd is still fine. I've got xmms on the oss output plugin, and am still enjoying my mp3 collection. So while I haven't added anything constructive to the thread, I'll `me too' on the presence of problems! cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: wmmon in potato?
Quoth kmself@ix.netcom.com, ...I'm jus' lookin' for a good wmmon Anyone know what the status of wmmon under potato is? It currently depends on a couple of libs (xpm4g and another) which conflict with xlibs. Rats. I can build from source, probably will. I have to admit that I can't remember exactly what wmmon monitors. and you're probably using wmaker, for which something like that is most appropriate... But you might want to consider looking at gkrellm. Sort of like all of the monitor-type programs (mail, cpu, disk, network, mem, and more) on steroids. Also very themeable. The version in potato is a little old. I believe there might be a more recent one on unstable. Sorry, it didn't answer your question, but if you check it out you might like it :) cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: debian 2.2 with 8 meg ?
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED], I have an old, lonely 486 with 8 MB and want to use it for Linux. Is there any chance to use debian 2.2 on it. I read in the installation manual, that it needs 12 MB. I've installed, and happily run, potato on a 486 with 8M of RAM (an old notebook, for which a ram upgrade is difficult). It works, but I hope you're a very patient man to survive the install. dselect and dpkg are woefull on low mem systems. Expect to wait an hour or more for the selection of files to come up in dselect. Expect dpkg to crash a few times whilst installing stuff. dpkg does seem to have a lowmem option (or something like that), which helps. It may be possible to force dselect to use it, but I don't know how (try man dselect?). In short, it worked for me. It runs fine when it finally gets going (I only use mine in text-mode), but I'd highly recomend compiling a much leaner kernel than the debian default. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Sig 11 in X4.02 using Matrox G450
Hi gang, After having bought a spanking-new Matrox G540 video card, I'm not able to get it to use drm/dri for accelerated 3d. This is mildly annoying, as I went and bought myself an expensive video-card so I could see the cool OpenGL XScreensaver hacks! I'm using X4.02 from testing (as of tonight), but the same happens with the same packaged built for potato. If I run it in 24-bit depth, X starts fine, but there is an error message in the logs saying it'll only do hardward-accelerated drm in 16bpp (rantwhy do I have 32 #%^! megs of ram in my video card if I can only do 3d in 16bpp!?!/rant) Anyway, when I try and launch in 16bpp (ie., startx -- -depth 16), it tries, and crashes out, saying: (II) MGA(0): [drm] Sarea 2176+624: 2800 Module called exit() function with value=1 Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting The full log is attached to the end of this message. BTW, this is using the mga_drv.o module from the Matrox site (the standard X4 one does not work with the G450). Can anyone offer any suggestions? I'd hate to have to use my old Voodoo3 and confine this cool new card to my (ew!) windoze box! cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead XFree86 Version 4.0.2 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 18 December 2000 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Linux 2.2.18 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Thu Feb 8 23:23:41 2001 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout Default Layout (**) |--Screen Default Screen (0) (**) | |--Monitor Generic Monitor (**) | |--Device Generic Video Card (**) |--Input Device Generic Keyboard (**) Option XkbRules xfree86 (**) XKB: rules: xfree86 (**) Option XkbModel pc104 (**) XKB: model: pc104 (**) Option XkbLayout us (**) XKB: layout: us (**) |--Input Device Generic Mouse (**) FontPath set to unix/:7100 (==) RgbPath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb (==) ModulePath set to /usr/X11R6/lib/modules (--) using VT number 7 (WW) Cannot open APM (II) Module ABI versions: XFree86 ANSI C Emulation: 0.1 XFree86 Video Driver: 0.3 XFree86 XInput driver : 0.1 XFree86 Server Extension : 0.1 XFree86 Font Renderer : 0.2 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: bitmap (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) Loading font Bitmap (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3 (II) PCI: Probing config type using method 1 (II) PCI: Config type is 1 (II) PCI: stages = 0x03, oldVal1 = 0x, mode1Res1 = 0x8000 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 1106,0598 card , rev 04 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:01:0: chip 1106,8598 card , rev 00 class 06,04,00 hdr 01 (II) PCI: 00:07:0: chip 1106,0586 card 1106, rev 41 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:07:1: chip 1106,0571 card , rev 06 class 01,01,8a hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:07:3: chip 1106,3040 card , rev 10 class 06,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:09:0: chip 1011,0019 card , rev 21 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0a:0: chip 11ad,0002 card 1385,f004 rev 20 class 02,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 00:0c:0: chip 9004,6178 card , rev 01 class 01,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: 01:00:0: chip 102b,0525 card 102b,0641 rev 82 class 03,00,00 hdr 00 (II) PCI: End of PCI scan (II) LoadModule: scanpci (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor=The XFree86 Project compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 0.1.0 ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3 (II) UnloadModule: scanpci (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) PCI-to-ISA bridge: (II) Host-to-PCI bridge: (II) PCI-to-PCI bridge: (II) Bus 0: bridge is at (0:0:0), (-1,0,0), BCTRL: 0x00 (VGA_EN is cleared) (II) Bus 0 I/O range: [0] -1 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] (II) Bus 0 non-prefetchable memory range: [0] -1 0x - 0x (0x0) MX[B
Re: 2.4 kernel
Quoth Harald Thingelstad, With the proper modutils ( = 2.4.1), I was able to build it (with kernel-package) with no problems. You'll need some extras if you want to run devfs (devfsd) or reiserfs (reiserfsprogs), but if you don't want to do anything too exciting, it should just work. Then again, you can save yourself from all those kinds of potential trouble with make-kpkg. It builds debian packages from the kernel source. I normally use something like: Well... While Kernel-package (ie., make-kpkg) is great, and I do use it all the time, it doesn't obviate the need for these extra packages if you use those bits of the kernel. Kernel-package won't install the modutils that you need to use the 2.4 series if you are using potato or testing (or at least, testing when I did it). It also wont automagically read your mind that you're compiling in reiserfs and install reiserfsprogs for you. Brand new kernel: cd /usr/src tar xjf archive/linux-2.4.0.tar.bz2 bunzip2 -c archive/patch-2.4.1.bz2 |patch -p0 mv linux kernel-source-2.4.1 ln kernel-source-2.4.1 linux cd linux make menuconfig sudo make-kpkg --revision computername.0 kernel-image cd .. sudo dpkg -i kernel-image_2.4.1_computername.0_i386.deb (fix up the lilo settings as I don't agree with the defaults, then run lilo.) Later reconfiguration: cd /usr/src/linux make menuconfig sudo make-kpkg clean sudo make-kpkg --revision computername.1 kernel-image cd /boot mmv *.2.4.1 #1.2.4.1.0 I've never done this above step, and never had any problems. Is it necessary? Anyone? cd /lib/modules mv 2.4.1 2.4.1.0 sudo dpkg -i /usr/src/kernel-image_2.4.1_computername.1_i386.deb (fix up the lilo settings as I don't agree with the defaults, then run lilo.) The lilo behaviour can be fine-tuned in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf. For example, because I have /boot as its own partition, I have kernel-package install its symlinks into /boot, rather than /. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux
Quoth Joris Lambrecht, you could of course pay for it ... This is linux - we don't pay for anything... Ask Corel :) cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: XFree86-4.0 screen resolution missmatched with monitor viewing area
Quoth John Foster, I recently upgraded to a full woody/testing installation. After a few hours of reading experimenting with xf86configure I got the new XFree86 4.0 server to work well. I still have 1 problem. The resolutions that are accepted on my monitor are 640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 24bpp . When the server runs XF86Config-4; it automatically loads the lower resolution first. I then have to manually (CTRL+ALT +/-) change the resolutions. The problem is that when I select While I don't know anything much about X4 modelines, and for myself using the monitor's onscreen display was enough to fix it up, for your problem of starting in the wrong resolution there is an easy fix. Under section `screen', go to the line that represents the colour depth that you're using (which it probably the number next to `DefaultDepth' in that same section. Just put the prefered resolution at the start of the line, and Bob's your uncle. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Old news : Opera Free 4 Linux
Quoth William Leese, Here it is free in the sense that you will have a banner with ads in the browser I believe. Can you block those with junkbuster? ..very unlikely, though i can't be certain because i've never used junkbuster. If junkbuster is similar to the usually ad filters that check the html code for familar ad server names it certainly will not work because the banner isn't part of the page thats being loaded (its on one of the toolbars). Without having ever seen or used Opera, I suspect that you probably *will* be able to block the adds with junkbuster. As it sits as a proxy between the browser and the internet (from where I am, unless it fetches it's adds through the proxy, it wont be able to get them anyway), as long as it's fetching the adds from a predictable server (you can check this by tailing the /var/log/junkbuster.log file), there is no reason it wouldn't be able to block them. Of course, if Opera uses http 1.1 to fetch the ads, it could be a problem, as junkbuster has a problem with that. Anyway, someone try it and report back to the group (that's you're homework for tonight, if you're reading this and have Opera and Junkbuster!) cheers, damon (once again opining on something he knows almost nothing about...) -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: 2.4 kernel
Quoth Renai, a quick question. I have Woody, and I want to install the 2.4 kernel. I'm familiar with the kernel building procedure, but are there any Debian localisations that I should be careful of/use when I'm installing the new kernel? With the proper modutils ( = 2.4.1), I was able to build it (with kernel-package) with no problems. You'll need some extras if you want to run devfs (devfsd) or reiserfs (reiserfsprogs), but if you don't want to do anything too exciting, it should just work. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
reiserfs annoyances
Hi folks, I'm running a woody (as of 2-weeks ago) machine with a 2.4.1-ac2 kernel on it. I've got reiserfs compiled in, and all of my file systems (except boot) are now running on reiserfs. I'm running ii reiserfsprogs 3.x.0a-1 *PRE-RELEASE* Tools for ReiserFS filesystems compiled from the sid sources. Overally, I'm very happy with reiserfs, but there are a few annoyances. The first is that, presumably resiserfsck doesn't understand some option passed to it by /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh, as when it gets to that stage it stops and waits until you confirm to do an fsck. Does anyone know a way around this, short of commenting out the offending line in checkroot.sh (as is doing this a Bad Thing?)? The other thing that may or may not be a problem is that every time the system boots, it seems to replay the transaction logs of all of the filesystems. This suggests to me that it's not umounting them correctly. Or is this the expected behaviour of reiserfs? Another thing is it complains when you have the following in your /etc/fstab: /dev/hda2 / reiserfs defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 If you take out the `errors=remount-ro' it seems to work fine. Again, I'm not sure if removing this line is going to have disasterous consequences, or if it's something that reiserfs doesn't need. If anyone has any suggestions I'd be very interested. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: devfsd error
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Re: hacked, then intrusion detection system
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED], I just realized that someone entered my debian box with cablemodem. I couldn't find anything in the logs, but the pump package was deleted. I replaced inetd for xinetd. took off services I didnt't use (It was left all default, as I installed in a rush), and now I'd like a good intrusion detection system. I'd like to hear about any advices about not security (too wide) but tools to run in cron and which may be usefull for this kind of situations. The other advise I have seen you get on the list to reinstall completely if you have been compromised is worth listening to. As for an intrustion detection system, one that is simple but effective is AIDE. I'm not sure if debian packages are available, but it's easy to compile yourself. It takes a snapshot of your system and will allow you to determine if any files were changed. Just make sure you do something like put it's database on a floppy so the intruder cant change it. Less effective (because the md5 sums are kept on your own system and can be changed by a particularly cluey and patient intruder) is debsums. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
IDE CD-ROM and DevFS
Hi folks, I've recently installed 2.4 and wanted to have a play around with devfs, so I compiled into into the kernel, and built devfsd from sid: ii devfsd 1.3.10-5 Daemon for the device filesystem I like the idea of devfs, and generally it's working pretty well for me. The only major annoyance so far is that I can't seem to access my IDE cd-rom. I have 1 scsi cd-rom, 1 scsi cd burner, and 1 ide cd-rom. I can access the scsi cds fine, and they both show up under /dev/cdroms: [rei:~]% ls -l /dev/cdroms total 0 lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 34 Jan 1 1970 cdrom0 - ../scsi/host0/bus0/target2/lun0/cd lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 34 Jan 1 1970 cdrom1 - ../scsi/host0/bus0/target3/lun0/cd So why doesn't my ide cd show up? The cd-rom driver is built as a module: [rei:~]% grep IDECD /boot/config-2.4.0-ac11 CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=m and is loaded: [rei:~]% /sbin/lsmod|grep cdrom cdrom 26720 0 (autoclean) [sr_mod] I'm pretty sure (though not 100%) that it was working with 2.4 before devfs, but it's a pain to reboot to find out! Has anyone any suggestions? Am I missing something, or is it likely to be a hardware issue? cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Kernel compiling questions....
Hi Stefan, Quoth Stefan Srdic, My goal is to compile a kernel which performs greatly but is also very small with only the basic requirements compiled into the kernel and everything else compiled as modules. Sometimes the way the system is set up makes it a little redundant to compile things in as modules. For example, on boot, debian will try and configure the serial ports with setserial (I think), which will load the serial module, even if you don't intend using it for that session. But, in general, I agree that modules are a Good Thing. So far I've decided on compiling support for my CPU (Athlon/K7), Chipset (VIA 82C586), and primary network interface (Vortex) directly into the kernel. I also plan on compiling PCI and EISA PnP support along with AGP support so that I will not have to recompile the kernel when I upgrade some of my hardware. It sounds like you haven't actually had a look at menuconfig or anything like that yet (you can check out the options with `make menuconfig' and not save it or change it later). Things like CPU type are not available as modules, as they are fundamental to how the kernel builds and operates. Things like a PCI bus are also not much good as modules, because there is no point at which they don't have to be loaded (unless you can get by without video, or drives, or little things like that...). Inevitably you will end up having to recompile the kernel if you significantly change hardware. Don't worry, it's relatively painless (man kernel-package (5)). I'm not sure if I should compile support for my harddrive, floppy and CD-RW directly into the kernel or as modules. I do know that I will be compiling support for my Voodoo 3, Ensoniq, and Realtek NIC as modules. Well, you can't compile things like hard drive controllers as modules, but you can compile support for file systems as modules. Be aware that if you compile ext2 as a module, you will get a kernel panic when you boot, as the kernel can't read the filesystem that the module to read the filesystem is located on! Your NIC, sound card, and things like drm and maybe even fbcon for the graphics card are fine as modules (I don't know if the voodoos are supported as fbcon drivers, but if they are, I find it's better if they are compiled in, rather than as modules, as they kick in earlier in the boot process). What should compiled directly into the kernel, and what should be compiled into modules? Are there some modules that can be left out all together if I'll never use that sort of hardware with Linux (ie: USB) If you don't use hardware like USB, or video4linux, or IR, or ISDN or all those other things, leave them out. Usually the help that comes with the options is a good guide for whether or not you should enable it. Just make sure you have a working boot disk if you're going to be experimenting, because sometimes you can accidently get it wrong and end up with an unbootable system. Don't worry too much - compiling a kernel is just part of the fun of running linux. Since I moved to 2.4 (2 days ago), I have re-compiled about 8 times, trying to get a good combination of stuff! HTH, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: apt-get feature question
Quoth David B. Harris, Since it's generally very unsafe to install testing/unstable binaries on a Potato system(or mixing binaries of any of the distributions, for that matter), I'd like to amend this suggestion to the following: 'apt-get install unstable foo' Compiles package foo(therefore lessening the chances of major breakage), and all the unstable dependancies that foo requires. If any of the dependancies are met by your native distribution, they should be installed in binary form, without compiling. We already have that... $ grep src /etc/apt/sources.list deb-src http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/debian unstable main contrib non-free $ apt-get source foo $ cd foo $ debian/rules binary $ cd .. # dpkg --install foo easy! cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: pop before smtp - solution
Quoth Erich Birngruber, After installing qmail (but without Maildirs!), i am looking for a package or a method to do pop (or imap!) before mail can be sent via smtp! There are a few solutions for pop before smtp list on www.qmail.org. The one involving PAM sounds like it should work for a debian installation. I personally use vpopmail for hosting virtual domains with qmail, and one of the ./configure options enables pop before smtp and works extremely well. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Moving from kernel 2.2 to 2.4
Hi Alec, Quoth Alec Smith, I understand a large portion of the kernel 2.4 networking code was updated and/or completely replaced. Under 2.2 I have ipchains configured to do basic masquerading for my local LAN. Is there a straightforward guide which describes how to do masquerading and firewalling with 2.4 after moving up from 2.2? There is an ipchians module that you can compile with the kernel that allows to you still use ipchains normally with iptables. The problem with this is I don't see how you can use the old masquerading modules (like the ftp one) with it. If you are sticking with your old ipchains script, just make sure you build the module, and put `ipchains' in /etc/modules to load it at boot-time. If you are interested in migrating fully to iptables, there are a few iptables firewall/masq scripts on freshmeat.net (under console/firewall, I think, on the appindex). Personally, I use gShield, and am very happy with it. Just make sure you compile *all* of the iptables modules (either as modules or in the kernel). The names of some of them suggest you don't need them, but most of the pre-cooked firewall scripts that I have seen require most of them. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Can't samba print to nt-shared printer on NT domain
Quoth Kent West, I have an HP Laserjet 2100 hanging off the NT box, and it is shared so that EVERYONE has PRINTING access. I have never actually tried this myself, but it might help if you checked out /usr/share/doc/samba-doc/examples/printing/smbprint which seems to do what you're after. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: Converting from Exim to qmail
Quoth Alec Smith, Are there any pitfalls to watch out for as far as the above are concerned with Qmail? Also, does a simple Howto exist which I could use as a guide to Qmail configuration in the above described situation? On the qmail site (www.qmail.org), there is a very good document called Life with qmail, which I recomend reading if you are installing it. While I have installed qmail on multiple systems (both debian and otherwise), I've never had much luck with the debs that are available, and personally don't like the way they are set up. If you follow the instructions, installing from source is pretty simple. Of course, that's just my personal opinion, so YMMV. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
A postcard from the bleeding edge
dependency problem, which apt-get -f install seemed to clean up. Okay, time for the smoke test. zsh: command not found: startx D'oh! Okay, need some more packages, but they depend on libfreetype6, which is nowhere to be found. apt-get source to the rescue again. Here I ran into another little problem. Usually, once I have done the apt-get source, I cd into the directory, and run debian/rules binary, but this time got an error (something like No Targets or something). However, running debian/rules, and then debian/rules binary seemed to fix it. All is well again, and I install the rest of the needed X4 packages. A little aside to say that although I have heard people talk about dexter on the list, the debconf x configuration package works really well. When I eventually got X going (more on that in a moment), it was with the configuration file that debconf produced, and it worked great. My only nag is that it didn't have an option for 1200x1024, which is my prefered resolution, but it was easy enough to add to the completed file. For those still stuck in X3 land, the configuration file of X4 is a dream. Guess what, no more modelines! If you want 1200x1024, just add 1200x1024 to the start of the list, and it works! How cool is that! Of course, I hear it supports modelines, but mine seems to work fine without it. Now, backpeddling a bit, I had X installed and configured. This time startx worked - it successfully brought my machine to a screatching halt, requiring a hard reboot. Opps... Ah yes, I have a new video card that isn't supported by X4 out-of-the-provebial-box. Okay, trek over to www.matrox.com to get the new driver. Again my stupidity rears it's ugly head (I'm blaming the heat again). The link at the top of the page is to the source - the binary is at the bottom of the page, under the EULA. In this case, completely ignoring the EULA is not a good idea, as you'll never find the binary. Argh! It's quite sad how many hours that left me flumoxed - was I going to have to compile X from source myself!? About this time I realised what the story was with AGP in the kernel, and eventually booted a kerenel in which everything, including AGP seemed to work. I put the binary matrox module in the correct place, crossed my fingers, and started X. Dissapointment eventual transformed into elation as that familiar gnome desktop appeared. I say eventually because X took a while to start up, and I was close to putting my fist through the monitor when it eventually did. But it did, so I was happy. After playing around with the config file to get my prefered resolution, it was working well. I don't know that I have quite got the DRI thing nutted out yet, because the GL screensavers seem to be a lot slower than they should be, but I'll work that out eventually. At least I had X again (yes, I confess, I've been using windows a bit while my other machine was down... It feels nice to be back to a real OS again!). I figured that, as I'd managed to make all these fundamental changes to my system, and it wasn't quite dawn yet, I may as well go and update to testing. A quick sources list change, and about 130M later, I'm officially running testing. The dist-upgrade took a long time, but only died a few times, which was pretty good for that day. I have to admit that I appreciate Russel Corker's message at the end of the lilo configuration - something like I'm sorry to have destroyed your data! However, as I'd been reading the list, I knew to back-up lilo.conf, so I was safe :) I've since realised that, had I upgraded to testing sooner, I would have had to have compiled less packages myself, but that doesn't wory me greatly. Me and my PC are safely back in debian-land again, and I'm as close to bleeding-edge as a wuss like me needs to be. Sorry that was so long, and un-proofread (I don't need to read it, I know what it's supposed to say, I wrote it!). But hopefully that might convince someone that change can be managed, or help someone who has got stuck along the way. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller | Did a large procession wave their torches Criminologist/Linux Geek | As my head fell in the basket, http://killfilter.com | And was everybody dancing on the casket... PGP (GnuPG): A136E829 | - TBMG, Dead
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
Hi Matthew,
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:36:48PM +, Matthew Sackman wrote:
Yes, Postfix does support .forward files, so this works well (I've just
installed maildrop and things seem to be working).
Good to hear it!
I had no idea that mutt supported IMAP folders, so this comes as a very
pleasent surprise. However, when changing folders, it is a little
cumbersome to have to type in {hostname}INBOX.folder_name each time -
I'd much prefer be presented with a list of folders. Is this possible to
do under mutt?
Mutt does folder browsing. Hit `c' (change folder), and then hit TAB
(in the most recent Potato mutt, make sure you have updated this since
potato first came out, as it's had a major version change which
supports lots of new features). You should now be able to browse your
mail folders. Just be aware that this is more a file-selection screen,
so you have to use SPACE, not RETURN to select the folders.
You can also do something like (in .muttrc)
set folder={mail}INBOX
mailboxes ! =sqwebmail =vpopmail =debian-user =freshmeat =misc =root
Which will give you a list on c TAB TAB
cheers,
damon
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Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 08:25:28PM +1100, Brian May wrote: My only dislike of the above is courier-imap. It insists that all folders appear below INBOX (eg. INBOX.trash) which in turn looks messy and prevents using a hierarchy for your own folders. Yeah, I agree, it's a bit dumb. The other thing with courier is that, due to the way it's laid out, I imagine that it'd be a bastard to get anything like FHS compliance. The way it installs itself offends my sense of aesthetics. Other than that, it seems pretty stable though. cheers, damon -- Damon Muller http://killfilter.com GPG Key: 0xA136E829
Re: IMAP MUA and filtering
Hi Matthew,
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 10:59:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have recently managed to set up Postfix, and get it to feed to the
Cyrus IMAP server. At the moment I'm using TkRat, but am finding it a
little restrictive.
This isn't an MUA solution, but rather a whole mail system, but it
works well for me.
maildrop is a procmail-like MDA which is packaged for debian, and is
very stable and easy to use. IMHO, its syntax is a lot easier to
understand than procmail - it uses pretty bog-standard conditionals,
curley braces, and posix regexs.
If postfix supports .forward files, you'll need something like
| maildrop -d $USER
in your .forward file (off the top of my head, could be wrong).
Next get courier-imap, which may be available for debian, but if it
isn't it's very easy to compile by hand (configure; make; make
install). It's available at www.courier-mta.com.
Courier uses maildir directories (which are supported by maildrop,
which is by the same author as courier-imap), so you just need to tell
maildrop to, say, deliver debian-user into ./Maildir/.debian-user,
which then becomes available as an imap folder.
You can then read your imap mail with mutt, which now has good support
for imap and imap browsing (hint: try spool = {localhost}INBOX in
your .muttrc). The IMAP client in netscape also works well with this
combination.
If you want to get really fancy, on the courier site you can also find
sqwebmail, which is a hotmail like webmail interface, which works with
the same maildirs as courier-imap. It also has a nice web interface for
writing sorting rules, so you don't have to edit your .mailfilter file
by hand to add new sorting rules.
I use effectively this combination myself, and it works really well.
Could anyone reccomment a good MUA with good support for IMAP and
filtering of incomming mail. I'm assuming one can't use procmail to
filter mail as it won't work in a IMAPd (I think!), so which MUAs are
there out there that both support IMAP and filtering?
I am interested in functionality rather than a pretty GUI, and am more
than happy with a console app if it does everything I need it to.
In this case, you can't go past mutt. Nothing with a pretty gui (even
for windows) comes near it for functionality and spead. It has somewhat
of a steep learning curve, but it's worth it.
cheers,
damon
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Re: XFree86 3.3.6 / Linux 2.4.0 / Intel i810
Hi Benjamin, On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:01:48AM -0600, Benjamin Pharr wrote: My new desktop is ?blessed? with an Intel i810 chipset that is not supported under XFree86 3.3.6. I have found instructions that make it work with the 2.2.18 kernel and others that make X 4.0.? work with kernel 2.4.0. However, I want 3.3.6 with 2.4.0. ( This is due to the fact that my attempts at apt-geting XFree86 4.0 from unstable have been disastrous, but I need 2.4.0 for USB, etc. ) Has anyone managed this combination yet? Thanks! I haven't actually used 2.4.0 yet, but today I re-installed my machine onto a gateway-everything-built-into-the-motherboard-crap machine which happens to have an i810. I didn't actually do anything special. I replaced the s3-xserver package with the svga-xserver package, recompiled the kernel with agpgart support, and it just worked. Didn't even have to change my XF86Config file or anything. I was expecting lots of trouble, but it was a breeze. Even the onboard sound worked first go. I believe that 2.4.0 has agpgart support the same as 2.2.18. This is using X 3.3.6 (from Potato). HTH, damon -- Damon Muller http://killfilter.com GPG Key: 0xA136E829
