libc6 died on undefined symbol: __aurbrk
Hello Debianers, Yesterday I encountered a very strange problem: I compiled a kernel and unfortunately specified the wrong target for make-kpkg: I used make-kpkg binary, which resulted in error messages because of filling up my /usr partition completely. I found out about the error, deleted directory debian/tmp-source (which freed the disc-space again) and continued with: make-kpkg clean and make-kpkg kernel_image But make-kpkg failed on building the debian-package (everything compiled fine, but it couldn't build the package). When I tried to do ls or something else the following message showed up: error in loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: __aurbrk, version GLIBC_2.0 So I tried to login from another console, same thing. I tried to shutdown, same thing, libc6 was dead. The only thing that helped was a hard reboot. I already had a very bad feeling, but the thing came up fine, checked filesystems, everything ok, and went on. Anybody having a clue, what might have happened here? I'm a bit concerned about this, as I'd like to compile a new kernel, but I'm at the moment more or less in a production environment (writing on some important documents), so toasting my machine would not be so good (I have backups, but having to reinstall would cost some time). Please cc to me on replies, because I'm at the moment not subscribed to the list. Regards, Daniel
Re: 386-4 MB startup question
On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 11:01:40AM -0500, DSC Lithuania wrote: From your Debian 2.2 documentation, it looks like 2.2 requires a minimum of 12 MB of Ram. Right. But there's a work-around. Install some earlier release (e.g. slink (2.1 as far as I remember) and upgrade using: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade That's the way, I installed potato on a 8MB i486. It should also work on a 4MB i386 (But take care, that you don't put too much load on the machine: shut down virtual consoles (3 should be enough for your purposes, so comment out the 3 other initially activated ones in inittab) run only essential stuff (so don't run gpm, atd, lpd and the like, if you don't really need it)) Don't know, if apt-getting is possible with your 1.3.1 (it should be possible to upgrade the system to some later release, but it might be a bit more difficult). So that wouldn't be good for us. Likewise, I tried looking at the small 2-MB version of Debian that is supposed to be available, but the server seems down, so that isn't available at the moment. Havn't heard of it up to now, might be an alternative. From the Floppy Install, we put the rescue disk in and booted up. The system came up to the initial options page (where you can put command line options, or look at the F1-F5 help pages). After hitting Enter, it said Loading Root.Bin ... Loading Linux uncompressing Linux ... booting kernal ... Ramdisk: Compressed image found at Block 0. And that is where it would stop forever after. Note that it would never give me a chance to put the LMEMROOT disk in, or acknowledge that it was low on memory. Don't know how it worked with 1.3.1, but can you boot from the LMEMROOT disk? As far as I remember, in slink, you had to boot from the lomem-disk, to get the initial system up and running. Regards, Daniel
Re: Q Lynx show web pics?
Hello Jonathan, Can Lynx show web site gifs? Yes it can, provided you are running it in a X-Terminal and have an image-viewer for X installed or you have svgalib and zgv. Of course, the images are not shown inline with the text, but lynx can be configured, that when you follow a link to an image, it will spawn the correct viewer and show you the image. Check out lynx's manpage and check for the config-files. There you can setup the viewers for certain mime-types. (Don't remember how exactly to do it, but if you don't get it done, feel free to mail me once again) Can Links or anything besides the Netscape/Mozilla/Opera crowd? There are some nice (relatively) lightweight browsers out on the web, which use Mozilla's rendering engine, but have got a simpler, cleaner user interface (galeon, g2). But they require a complete Mozilla installation, so they are lightweight only in RAM usage, not in diskspace usage. Nice simple textmode browser is w3m, which has the advantage over lynx, that it can render tables and frames very well. Regards, Daniel
Re: ssh
Hello Daniel, On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Daniel de los Reyes wrote: I have been recommended to use ssh as a replacement for the telnet server however I can't find any packages for Potato. Are they not avaliable? Yes they are, but due to some (IMHO very strange) laws in the US concerning the export of cryptographic software they are in the non-US section of the distribution. You can download that from a mirror outside the US usually from /debian-non-US/dists/stable/non-US/main/ Regards, Daniel
TeXfonts in X?
Hello there, Is it possible to use TeX-Fonts in X? I know, that TeXmacs uses TeX-Fonts for its menus, so do I need a nasty hack to do this, or can I do this in a simple way and make TeX-Fonts available to every X-App? TIA Regards, Daniel
Re: add new Tex packages!?
Hello Manuel, to enable kpathsea to search very quickly for files, tetex remains a database of all the files in your tex-installation in /usr/share/texmf/ls-R (actually it resides somewhere in /var, /usr/share/texmf/ls-R is just a link to it). Whenever you install new files, you have to update this database, otherwise, tex won't find your files. This is done via the command: 'mktexlsr' as root. I think, texhash does about the same among a few other nice things. Regards, Daniel On Thu, 23 Nov 2000, Manuel Hendel wrote: Hi, can anyone tell me how to add new texpackages, for example the package letter. I coppied it in the Texpath, where all the other .sty and .cls files are, but this didn't work. Latex said it can't find the package and asks for the path, when I insert the path it works. What do I have to do to get this running? Thanks, Manuel
Re: lprng and magicfilter problem
Hello Paul, lprng runs the inputfilters by default on the host on which the job is issued, and NOT on the server with the printer attached. That means the host has to do the work of rendering anything, the server lprng just forwards the job directly to the printer. Up to now I havn't found out how to change this (I'm sure there is a way), but I'd also like to keep resource hungry gs away from my laptop and let the printer server do the hard work so I'd be interested in a solution to the problem. Regards, Daniel On Fri, 24 Nov 2000, Paul Schulz wrote: Greetings, It seems that these two packages work really well together! but I have a networking problem though.. and I would like to understand what is going on. I have set lprng and magicfilter up on a server to print to a HP Laserjet 6p, a non-postscript printer. Works well when I print from this host. (I've set the magicfilter to 'ljet2p'.) I set up my laptop to talk to print to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it does, but magicfilter doesn't process this postscript that it sends, and passes it directly to the printer (which spits it out as stepped text, not recognising the !%.) Why is this happening? Why isn't the postscript being processed by magicfilter on the server? Standard stable (potato) Debian installation on both.. lprng_3.6.12-8 magicfilter_1.2.39 and the server queues set up with 'magicfilterconfig'. I don't want to have to install (not that it's overly difficult) magicfilter on all the workstations. Any help appriciated. Paul Schulz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 386 install
Hi folks, On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Bek Oberin wrote: Daniel Migowski wrote: On Montag, 20. November 2000 16:15, Jean-Marc Cadudal wrote: I have an old 386 on which I'd like to install Debian 2.2. HP Vectra RS/20 10 Mb RAM 100 Mb DISK Floppy 1,4 Mb Floppy 1,2 Mb Btw. forget it. I saw a pentium/100 with 8MB RAM, and it was unusable slow. apt-get-installing a 20kb-package took 5 Minutes(!). After upgrading to 24MB RAM (didn't check 16MB), it was a cool server, even able to run small php3-scripts in a fast manner. I have a 486 with 12mb of RAM, and it runs fine in text mode. I don't use X anyway so that's cool with me. I would think 10mb should be fine if you don't overload it. bekj Even 8Mb are fine. I run Debian potato on a 486 with 8Mb RAM and 340Mb harddisk. In textmode it's absolutely no problem. I even ran X on it, it worked not bad, though it really is not incredibly fast (though it really depends, what window-manager you use, I had best results with blackbox or uwm). If you have a network connection, you could run X over the network and use the machine as terminal. It is no problem to install programs with dpkg (use --smallmem option), when I upgraded from slink, I even used apt. Recently I found, that I only start X on that machine to look at my typeset tex-documents, so I purged it and installed svgalib and dvisvga, which also freed me a lot of hd-space. So depends, on what you want to do with the machine. Compiling larger programs can take several hours, rendering fonts with metafont also takes some minutes. But for textmode-working your machine should be fine (though I have no experience with 386, as already said, mine is a 486). Regards, Daniel
svgalib screen sync once more...
Hi folks, Some of you perhaps read the thread about my svgalib screen sync problems with the DSTN 640x480 screen of my laptop and ct65535 chipset. One of the problems I could solve: My console isn't scrumbled any more when I switch back from graphics to textmode, I achieved this by using TextClockFreq 20.0 (strange to me, as this is lower than in standard VESA modes - If someone could enlighten me?), but it works. The other problem grew even weirder: When I switch to graphics mode with dvisvga or zgv, the LCD-screen is scrumbled and shows very strange patterns. I can restore this with LCD/CRT/LCD switch (also was like that in X). When I switch to graphics mode with gs or gnuplot, I DON'T have this problem. So is this a problem with svgalib configuration or a bug in dvisvga/zgv? (The latter would perhaps mean, that X has the same bug) (or even a bug in the hardware?) If I use the UseModeline option and change the modelines, I get absolutely no effect, the screen looks exactly the same, no matter what kind of modeline I specify (of course modesize always stays the same (640x480)). TIA, Regards, Daniel
SVGAlib/X Screen sync problems
Hello Debianers, I have a problem with my ct65535 and the Sharp 640x480 LCD in my ATT Globalyst 130 laptop. Description: I can't get the screen to sync. When I start X I get a scrumbled screen. It goes away, when I do a LCD/CRT/LCD switch. I already used the UseModeLine option and fiddled with the modelines, but to now avail. None of the X-Setup programs in debian (xfconfig, xfsetup) will create me a correct modeline, and xvidtune fails either. Now, when I exit X, the console is crumbled either, which also goes away with a LCD/CRT/LCD switch. This could perhaps be restored with the TextClockFreq option but havn't tried yet. As in the last time, I only started X to look at my typeset TeX-documents with xdvi, and this is a bit of a overhead (8 Meg RAM machine), I decided to purge X and install SVGAlib. Now the strange thing: If I display GNUplot plots, the switch to graphics mode works! Now when it switches back to textmode, the console is garbled, I do LCD/CRT/LCD - restored. But if I start dvisvga, the graphics mode is garbled too! I've been fighting with this problem very long, and finally decided to contact the list. So my question: Is there a utility to find out about the TextClockFrequency used at the console at bootup? And how can I find out about the correct modelines (already had a look at kenneth harkers page, but didn't find anything, that fitted)? Note beside: With windoze (which I finally banned two years ago from all of my computers), graphics mode worked (Calm down folks, it was the only thing that worked really o.k. ;-) But I suppose there's no way to find out about the modes and clocks, which that OS uses. Regards, Daniel
OT: gecko rendering engine and galeon/skipstone
Hello there, After all this discussion recently on the list about opera for linux and galeon/skipstone, I looked at the galeon/skipstone webpages. So a question came to my mind: They both use the gecko rendering engine from Mozilla. They both need a full install of Mozilla on the machine to work (this is a lot of overhead on a small harddisk, considering the fact, that you perhaps are not able to use Mozilla, if you have small amount of RAM, but you may be able to use galeon/skipstone - so Mozilla would take up several Megs of diskspace, just to provide the rendering engine). Wouldn't it be possible to take just the gecko engine and incorporate it into a new light weight browser, so there would be no need to have Mozilla installed? Why don't the developers of galeon/skipstone follow this approach? Anybody knowing of a browser doing this? Regards, Daniel
Re: sed question (bibtex problem)
Hello Brian,
Check this:
sed '/%$/{
N
s/%\n//
}' yourfile.bib
It should work from command line using bash's multiline input capability
(with the '). It checks for % at the end of lines (hence the $), then
reads the next line into the buffer and then removes the %\n sequence (I
don't quite understand, why sed can't do it with the one-liner you
mentioned, but I guess there's a good reason).
Regards,
Daniel
On Fri, 3 Nov 2000, Brian May wrote:
bibtex likes to word-wrap/mangle/destroy my long lines (eg. URLs) into
this form:
\bibitem[Mic00]{Microsoft2000}
Microsoft.
\newblock Windows 2000 kerberos authentication.
\newblock White paper, Microsoft, January 2000.
\newblock
\url=http://www.microsoft.com/technet/win2000/win2ksrv/technote/kerberos.asp%
=.
which is interpreted by LaTeX to display a percent sign at the end of
the URL :-(
RE: Which editor for programming?
Hello Stephan, If you want something more lightweight than Emacs, and at the same time something more easy to use than vim, you could check out jed. It does nice syntax highlighting, automatic indentation and has a quite intuitive interface (IMHO) with a ncurses-based menu. I started programming in C and I would like to know whether there is an editor which is especially good for writing and editing source code. At the moment I am using vi at the command line. Besides I would like to know where to start reading about using the shellvariables, e.g. PATH . TIA Stephan
Re: recommendation of software to use for web-based systems?
Hello LTG, On Mon, 23 Oct 2000, LTG wrote: I just setup the most recent ver. of potato at home. I also have two NT machines. I want to setup my linux box as a intranet server and build a web-based system on top of it using all free or almost free software. It should include a database (like oracle), postgreSQL is a great database (IMHO), completely for free (GPL) and available as Debian package. There are also different interface packages (perl, C, tcl/tk), so it is of course possible to setup web access. a middle tier, like weblogic, Don't know about the function of weblogic, so can't help you there. and a webserver (maybe more?). Apache. Most sites run this server. Great configurability and ability for scripting etc. Also completely for free. Which packages should I use? Does anyone have any recommendations? Just my 0.05$. I really just want to build a cool system at home. Thanks in advance, Tim Regards, Daniel
[OT] gcc-warning: more info
Hello there,
Thanks to all, who responded up to now. I think I'll give some more
information, as I still don't understand, why the warning
main.c:158: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
is generated in my case:
I have the following (among some other function and structure
declarations) in my program-header-file 'bet.h':
#include stdlib.h
#include stdio.h
struct provided_data{
double sample_weight;
struct datapoint *ppovolads;
int value_count;
};
struct provided_data *read_data(char *);
This function is in file 'scanner.c' and does the following:
#include bet.h
struct provided_data *read_data(char *input_file_name)
{
struct provided_data *prov_data_buffer;
Read in some data and put them into structure provided_data.
Then return pointer to structure provided data using the
following statement:
return(prov_data_buffer);
}
In file main.c I have the following:
#include bet.h
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
some code that reads commandline opts and so on.
Here I define input_data:
struct provided_data *input_data;
Now call read_data:
---input_data=read_data(input_file_name);
}
line marked with --- is the line, the compiler complains about.
I don't quite understand this, because I never declared function read_data
to return an int. Is something wrong with my function declaration?
Regards,
Daniel
[OT] gcc-warning: SOLVED!
Hello all there,
In fact, the shortened code I gave you was correct. What was missing in
the original code was #include bet.h in main.c, so the prototype for
this function was indeed missing for main, as many of you said.
I might have come across it in the further development of the program, but
with your help, I could solve the problem really fast, so thanks very much
to all who answered.
Regards,
Daniel
On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Daniel Reuter wrote:
Hello there,
Thanks to all, who responded up to now. I think I'll give some more
information, as I still don't understand, why the warning
main.c:158: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
is generated in my case:
I have the following (among some other function and structure
declarations) in my program-header-file 'bet.h':
#include stdlib.h
#include stdio.h
struct provided_data{
double sample_weight;
struct datapoint *ppovolads;
int value_count;
};
struct provided_data *read_data(char *);
This function is in file 'scanner.c' and does the following:
#include bet.h
struct provided_data *read_data(char *input_file_name)
{
struct provided_data *prov_data_buffer;
Read in some data and put them into structure provided_data.
Then return pointer to structure provided data using the
following statement:
return(prov_data_buffer);
}
In file main.c I have the following:
#include bet.h
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
some code that reads commandline opts and so on.
Here I define input_data:
struct provided_data *input_data;
Now call read_data:
--- input_data=read_data(input_file_name);
}
line marked with --- is the line, the compiler complains about.
I don't quite understand this, because I never declared function read_data
to return an int. Is something wrong with my function declaration?
Regards,
Daniel
Re: Symlinking /tmp to /var...
Hello all, You were right, Brian, and Karsten, /var/tmp is NOT wiped on bootup. Sorry, my fault, didn't remember it exactly. Regards, Daniel On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 16, 2000 at 10:19:08AM +0200, Daniel Reuter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Hello there, On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 05:45:26AM -0500, Bud Rogers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Alternatively symlink /tmp to the existing /var/tmp That would have been my suggestion. Anything wrong with that? Check your init scripts. /tmp is wiped on boot. /var/tmp may not be. In a standard installation (i.e. you havn't modified the init-scripts yourself), /var/tmp is wiped. So the symlink way worked for me without the slightest problem. Are you sure? If you've created the symlink and /var/tmp is mounted, you will wipe /var/tmp at boot along with /tmp. If you're running the tmpreaper utility, you'll automatically wipe everything in /tmp not accessed within the past 7 days. /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh wipes /tmp only, not /var/tmp.
Re: Magicfilter's filter files
Hello Petteri, Strange, in my /var/lib/dpkg/info/magicfilter.list the filter-files in /etc/magicfilter are listed, so they should have been installed by magicfilter. Have you tried purging your broken magicfilter first? (dpkg --purge magicfilter). Regards, Daniel On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Petteri Heinonen wrote: Hi. Does anybody know which package includes magicfilter's filter files, eg. files in directory /etc/magicfilter? I accidently removed those, and they don't come back by reinstalling magicfilter. Thanks in advance, Petteri Heinonen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tel.: +358 (0)50 3363 286 addr.: Pehkusuonkatu 21 B 38 33820 Tampere, FIN -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[OT] gcc-warnings
Hello there, I never quite understood the following warning message from gcc: sourcefile.c: linenumber: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast Unfortunately, I couldn't find a pointer on warning messages in the gcc-doc. Perhaps someone could enlighten me. Thanks. Regards, Daniel
Re: Symlinking /tmp to /var...
Hello there, On Sat, 14 Oct 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 14, 2000 at 05:45:26AM -0500, Bud Rogers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, 14 Oct 2000, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: Alternatively symlink /tmp to the existing /var/tmp That would have been my suggestion. Anything wrong with that? Check your init scripts. /tmp is wiped on boot. /var/tmp may not be. In a standard installation (i.e. you havn't modified the init-scripts yourself), /var/tmp is wiped. So the symlink way worked for me without the slightest problem. Regards, Daniel
Re: disk files too large to fit on floppy disks
Hello Zach, Have you used rawrite or dd? The disk-files are disk-images, this means, they should be copied bit by bit to a disk, and not by some tools which use the file-system, which is on the disk. By writing the raw images, they should fit absolutely exactly on one disk. Regards, Daniel On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Zach Smith wrote: Hello, I tried copying the Debian base disk files to actual floppy disks, and they are too large by about 30kB. I had to reformat my copy disks to use 81 tracks, which is risky. I am just now continuing this process, getting disk write errors... A better solution would be to recreate the files in the smaller size. Thanks Zach __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: blocks on floppy disk
Hello Stefan, On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote: Hello, Normally, a floppy disk contains 1440 1k blocks. Well, this is what they always told me. When I mount an msdos floppy and I do df -k, I see that the number of blocks are 1423. I simple wonder where the other 17 are?? They are used for the file-system. The OS needs e.g.some information, on where the different files are on the disk. On an MS-DOS formatted disk, this information is written into the FAT, the file allocation table. This logically takes up some space on the disk By the way, when I create an ext2 floppy, I only see 1412 1k blocks, where are the other 28 blocks? Same here, although it's AFAIK not a file allocation table, but the inode table and the superblock backups. Regards, Daniel
Re: book
Hello there, On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, Mike Harrison wrote: We bought the book to investigate Linux and I gave it to an engineer. Which book? I tried loading the Debian Linux, but the disk layout is not the same as stated in the book (quel supris). Anyway there was a readme file on the disk, so I read it. That was also wrong. There should be some binary disk images on tehcd Which CD? to enable you to make some boot floppies. There are not. There should be an dos executable (rawrite.exe) to wite the images. Right. But the information you give above is a bit sparse to be of any help to the list. Or did I miss something? If you could give the name of the book and what you did, where you looked for the disk-images, e.g., then it would be easier for someone on the list, to offer you some help or give a comment. Regards, Daniel
StarOffice now GPL?!
Hello all out there, Have a look at: http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/openoffice/ Does this mean it might ship with some future release of debian? Regards, Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (1) xdvi (2) ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 Xfree86-v4.0.1
Hello Stefan, Seems to me more like a xdvi configuration problem. Are you sure, that you havn't specified the expert option either in your X-resources or on the command line? Because that would make the buttons go away. Regards, Daniel On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, stefan goeman wrote: Hello, I have an ATI Rage Fury Pro 128 graphics card. It seems that it is almost impossible to get this working with XFree86-v3.3.6, therefore I installed XFree86-v.4.0.1. Now my X environement seems to work well. By the way, more info about installing X with ATI card can be found at http://www4.ncsu.edu/~distclai/rage128-howto.html I had one small problem. When I rebooted, the PC hang when initializing XFS. So far I have not found the reasom why and I just had to remove S30xfs from /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d disabeling XFS. I had the impression that everything worked well until I started xdvi. The buttons (like Quit, Abort, Again, ...) are not present. I have no idea why and what I can do about this. Anybody any ideas?? P.S.: I already posted this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] So, sorry for cross-posting this message. Greetings, Stefan Goeman. -- * SIEMENS ATEA NV * * * * ICN D NC A: * *Ir. Stefan Goeman * *Tel: +32 14 253020* *e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * * * * P.S.: Linux is great!! * -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Minimum hardware requirements? Web-based version?
Hello Dawn On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Dawn Miller wrote: I have a client who uses Debian GNU/Linux (versions 2.2.6, 2.2.13, 2.0.18 and 2.1.?) on four of their servers. I have two questions that I am trying to get answered for them, and did not find the info on the Debian web site: 1) What are the minimum hardware requirements for installing Debian GNU/Linux? Will this change for near-future versions (next 18 mos or so)? Debian slink (2.1) will run from 386 upwards with 4MB of RAM and you should have hd-space of at least about 50 MB for the base-system. That's the Minimum for slink. Of course you can build a system based on Debian, that will run from a floppy on a 386-machine with 2MB of RAM, but you won't be able to do much with it. For potato (2.2) you need 12 MB of RAM to install and hd-space of about 80 MB, although the system will run on machines with fewer RAM. Then you have to install slink and do an upgrade to potato. (did it on a machine with 8Mb, works fine). You can use X on a 486 with 8 MB RAM, but it won't be that fast, and you have to think about which programs you use. I think the minimum to run almost every program that comes with debian in a more or less comfortable way (except Netscape, as that really is a resource hog) would be Pentium processor with 32 Mb of RAM and about 2 or 3 GB of hd. Regards, Daniel
Re: lp module in Debian 2.2
Hello there, first, check that the parport and the parport_pc modules are loaded (lsmod as root, see 'man lsmod'). If not load them (insmod). Perhaps you have to give the parameters of your parallel port to parport_pc, e.g. issue something like: insmod parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 (change io and irq to the values which are right for your system) If everything is fine there, the lp-module should load smoothly, e.g. issue: insmod lp If there are error-messages during this process, it would be helpful, if you could send them to the list. Regards, Daniel On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Seung-woo Nam wrote: Hi everyone: I installed Debian 2.2 recently and the process went pretty smoothly except for lp module for printer support. The installation of the module fails even though I have a printer connected to the parallel port and I can't figure out whether it's parameter thing or something else. Could anyone help me? Thanks. Seung-woo Nam -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: ?? .Xdefaults ??
Hello Peter, It should work, if you just rename your old .Xdefaults file into .Xresources (it can also be done to make X read from a directory and have files for all the single applications, but I don't remember how). In fact, the name doesn't really matter. If you want to have resources read from a file with another name, you can to put a line like: xrdb filename_of_file_with_Xresources (See 'man xrdb') into your .xsession file. BTW, debian is not so different from other unixes. I remember, that at the IBM RS/6000 workstations with AIX, where I also sometimes work, it's also named .Xresources. On Tue, 26 Sep 2000, Peter Malewski wrote: Some time ago I used a file .Xdefaults where things like emacs*Background: DarkSlateGray emacs*Foreground: White emacs*pointerColor: Orchid emacs*cursorColor: Orchid emacs*bitmapIcon: on etc. stands. I found in the initial .Xsession that the default place is usrresources=$HOME/.Xresources so I changed the files in that folder (like adding another default backround for xterm). Why doesn't this have any influence neither if i start with startx nor xdm?? Why is debian so different from other unixes who use .Xdefaults? Where can I place my preferences for X Thanks for any help Peter
Re: [OT] History: GNUStep vs. Gnome
Hello Ian, On 26 Sep 2000, Ian Zimmerman wrote: Hello. This crossed my mind more than once: why was the Gnome project started, when there was already something called GNUStep? Even if not a full desktop, one can certainly see the beginnings of desktop-like functionality in WindowMaker or AfterStep. Was it just not cool-looking enough? :( Just my $0.02: I consider it much more cool-looking than Gnome and KDE together ;-) But I think, you can't really compare them either. Gnome resembles Windows very much concerning the standard look and feel of it, although Gnome surely already has much more power and configurability, so you can twist it the way you like it. KDE was started as a clone of CDE, the Common Desktop Environment. GNUstep was designed with the NeXTStep look and feel in mind. NeXTStep was the operating system on the NeXTstation, one of the most beautiful and technically well-designed computers that was ever built! (IMHO). Unfortunately, NeXT has been swallowed by Apple, and they ceased development of their OS. Instead, their work was incorporated into the OpenStep project. This is not just a desktop environment, but also incorporates the OpenStep specifications for a whole object oriented programming environment, and GNUstep tries to clone the features and even enhance it. I think GNUstep has very interesting basic concepts (quite different from the other two desktop environments). Regards, Daniel
depmod: error reading ELF header
Hello there, Yesterday I did an install of potato on a 8Mb Laptop. As there's no support for low-memory machines anymore in potato, I installed the slink base system from the 7 floppies and then did apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade. Seems to have worked out, but when depmod is run I get the following errormessage: depmod: error reading ELF header: No such file or directory What does this mean? Which package contains the ELF header, so I can reinstall it? Or will it go away when I upgrade the kernel to 2.2.x (at the moment I'm still running the 2.0.36, which ships with the slink rescue floppy)? Regards, Daniel
Re: Printing Problem on a Network
Hello there, On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure why, but my Linux box that was printing just fine to a network printer (via TCP/IP) no longer works. Netscape, enscript, WordPerfect, Adobe, all worked fine until, one day (yesterday) they didn't. I restarted lpd, but to no avail. Incidentally, the Linux box has not been rebooted. Any ideas what I should do next? What does it say/do exactly, when you try to print a file via lpr (man lpr)? Then, try to find out, if your printing jobs still sit in the queue (man lpq). If yes, check the status-file (Should be in the spool-directory (usually /var/spool/lpd/printername). Also have a look at the logs in /var/log. Don't remember the file name of the lpd-log, but the name of the file should tell (something like /var/log/lpd perhaps). So try to find out about these things, mail any error-messages to the list, perhaps someone can help then. Regards, Daniel
Re: changing partiton size
Hello there, On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Eric G . Miller wrote: On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:08:10AM +0200, QBA wrote: Hi, I have a problem because in a few days will have no free space on one of my partitons. I mounted on it /var directory and gave only 150MB for use. But now (after 3 months) I have only 21MB free. Because I also have one almost unused partition I thought that maybe I could resize these 2 partitions. Is any tool available (like partition magic for winshit) that can do that (without loss of my data)? Thanks for help, Have you been using apt-get? If you haven't done so already, you may be able to reclaim some space with apt-get clean. apt-get keeps all the packages it downloads in /var/cache/apt/archives. They can add up after a while. If that's not what's eating up your space, you may have luck with parted or 'gparted'. I'd back up the whole space (if not your whole disk) first. If you have enough space on another partition, you can use tar or cpio or 'cp -a' to copy all of the contents. Can't give you any help with parted (others have reported success). parted works well, have used it. Only it can't move beginnings of partitions, so if you want to do that you'll have to figure out how to move the contents of the following partition to another one, delete the following one and extend the one you want to resize. I'll leave this as exercise to the reader. If you have problems, you could contact me again. AFAIK, partition magic can also resize linux-partitions, so if you have a bootable disk with it on it, you should be able to use, but I have no experience with it. Regards, Daniel
Re: Apps Crashing a Lot
Hello out there, Pollywog wrote: On 30-Aug-2000 CHEONG, Shu Yang [Patrick] wrote: Have you guys tried ctrl+alt+backspace to get back to the console instead of (i) rebooting the box and (ii) telnetting from another machine to issue a init 1!!! If that doesn't work, try ctrl+alt+FX (where X is the number representing the console 1 to 6). You also might want to determine the reason(s) for the crashes...it may be caused by a rogue app or something...such feedback to the developers is important as bugs can then get fixed promptly and everyone can go about their daily lives again! All those things will often fail, That sure is right, once the Xserver froze my keyboard, so no way to hit any key-combinations anymore. and an agressive reboot is required. That in most cases is not right (unless you're not on a network, and therefore can't login remotely). Usually the system is still running (as Debian really is rock stable), you just can't get to it via the local keyboard and screen any more. In my cases, it always helped to login from another machine and kill the Xserver (man kill). One might have to determine the PID first (man ps). Regards, Daniel
Re: printing printcap
Hello Wayne, On Mon, 21 Aug 2000, Wayne Topa wrote: Subject: printing printcap Date: Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 02:35:52PM -0500 In reply to:Debian Mail Quoting Debian Mail([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, Debian ghost here... have a question about printing via debian. I ran the magicfilterconfig and set up a laser jet printer on the lan. I think I have this thing correct, but I get an error when I try to send anything to the printer. from printcap: lp|ljet|Lazer Jet:\ :lp=:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet:rm=156.200.5.80:rp=ljet:lpr_bounce:\ ^^^ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: here is the error I receive when I try to print: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat funny |lpr lpr: connect: Connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. I don't see any printer port mentioned. My printcap has :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\ What printer port are you trying to print to? :-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-) He doesn't need a printer-port, as he's remote printing (rm=156.200.5.80) over his TCP/IP-network, like me. Maybe I should look up my /etc/printcap, which worked over network before upgrading the printer server to potato (Can't do it now, as I'm not on my machine), but I suppose it looks quite similar. Regards, Daniel
Re: printing printcap
Hello there, On Sat, 19 Aug 2000, s. keeling wrote: On Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 02:35:52PM -0500, Debian Mail wrote: Hello, Debian ghost here... have a question about printing via debian. I ran the magicfilterconfig and set up a laser jet printer on the lan. I think I have this thing correct, but I get an error when I try to send anything to the printer. from printcap: lp|ljet|Lazer Jet:\ :lp=:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ljet:rm=156.200.5.80:rp=ljet:lpr_bounce:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ljet4l-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: here is the error I receive when I try to print: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat funny |lpr lpr: connect: Connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. As Randal Schwartz would say, unnecessary use of cat, for one thing. lpr funny Is lpd running? [ps aux | grep -v grep | grep lpd] If not, (as root) /etc/init.d/lpd start [or restart] grep lpd /var/log/messages I had exactly the same problem, and lpd was running on my machine. It first occured, when I upgraded the box with the printer attached to it to potato, while the other one is still slink. I suppose the problem has something to do with host authentication, which has been thightened in the lpr-version in potato. But I couldn't figure it out (tried everything with /etc/hosts.allow, /etc/hosts.deny, /etc/hosts.lpd and so on) up to now. Hope someone knows the answer. Regards, Daniel
Re: KDE--GNOME, how to switch
On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, hogan wrote: Check /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager symlink.. Or create a file called .xsession in your home-directory and put a line in it: gnome-session Regards, Daniel - Original Message - From: Greg Strockbine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 2:48 AM Subject: KDE--GNOME, how to switch -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Pilotes ATI
Salut, Si tu demande un X-Server pour ta carte, c'est dans le package xserver-rage128 (distribution potato). Tu peux le trouver à ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/xserver-rage128_0.990906-4.deb P.S.: Excuse mon francais, c'est pas très bien. Daniel On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, dfgxdgh nxhxbnf wrote: Ou puis-je trouver des pilotes pour une carte ATI Rage 128 GL pour LINUX Debian ? Merci à l'avance. __ Boîte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com
Re: [OFFTOPIC] BIOS Password defeat SOLVED!
Hello there, Success in defeating the password! It was not that easy: Many of you wrote, that I should pull out the CMOS-battery. So I looked for one, but there was nothing on that board, which looked like a battery. So I copied the little program from Miroslav, which corrupts the checksum of the CMOS to my Harddisk, unplugged it and plugged it into this motherboard. But unfortunately the system even had a boot password on it. So no way. But there was an IC on the board, that was a little larger than the others, so I thougt, it might perhaps contain a battery. It was labelled: benchmarq bq3287AMT. So I did a little search on the web about this, and bingo: It is a RTC unit with builtin CMOS and battery. (For further information: http://www.benchmarq.com/prod/bq3287.html). I found some additional information at http://users.powernet.co.uk/sysserv/page126.html It says, that you should shortcut pin 12 and pin 21 with power off to clear CMOS. Unfortunately, the socket had pin 21 removed, so I could make no connection. So I pulled the IC out and shortcutted them. When I booted again: Enter Password: So I thought, might need a longer time to clear CMOS. Left it standing connected. No way, I booted: Enter password: So I made a little connector out of a piece of aluminum foil and put it into the empty pin 21 connector of the IC-socket, put the IC in and connected via this connector. No way. Last chance was to use brute force. So I left the pins connected and put the computer ON. And guess what: It worked. It said: CMOS-battery low, replace and run Setup. So I removed the connector again. On the next boot it said: CMOS-checksum corrupted, run Setup So I ran it, and from now on everything worked fine. I will contact the maintainer of the webpage mentioned above, that it doesn't work with power off, and that the power should be on. Long mail, but I hope it helps, that if anybody ever encounters such a chip on his board he or she doesn't have to fight such a hard struggle. Regards, Daniel P.S.: Thanks for all the replies, although none of them did the trick, I at least got some ideas on where to start. I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I found a pretty nice 486 PCI-motherboard in the bulk waste last week, which I would like to use as secondary computer with debian. The board is working, but unfortunately, it was setup in a way that you can only boot from harddisk, and shadow RAM was enabled. So I tried to change the settings, but the preliminary user has installed a Setup-Password, so that I can't access the BIOS. I know, that there are ways to get around this, but I don't know how to do it in this special case. So does anybody know where to find the necessary information? Is there a tool for Linux or DOS to access and change BIOS-settings (I could plugin the harddisk from another computer and try to boot into Linux or use the small DOS-partition I have on this disk). Or is there some kind of cheat password, which will always work? The BIOS is a Phoenix version 4.04.
[OFFTOPIC] BIOS Password defeat
Hello there, I found a pretty nice 486 PCI-motherboard in the bulk waste last week, which I would like to use as secondary computer with debian. The board is working, but unfortunately, it was setup in a way that you can only boot from harddisk, and shadow RAM was enabled. So I tried to change the settings, but the preliminary user has installed a Setup-Password, so that I can't access the BIOS. I know, that there are ways to get around this, but I don't know how to do it in this special case. So does anybody know where to find the necessary information? Is there a tool for Linux or DOS to access and change BIOS-settings (I could plugin the harddisk from another computer and try to boot into Linux or use the small DOS-partition I have on this disk). Or is there some kind of cheat password, which will always work? The BIOS is a Phoenix version 4.04. Regards, Daniel
Re: Starting GNOME (newbie question)
Hello there, On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, Hans wrote: $startx gnome-session works for me. == Hans If you don't want to type it evertime you start X, you could also put 'gnome-session' at the end of your .xsession file. Regards, Daniel
Re: Help with mail address
Hello Cam, On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Cam Ellison wrote: I can't figure out how to set my email return address to what my ISP expects. I am the only user on my system. I tried to send mail out, with no success, eventually discovering that it was using [EMAIL PROTECTED] You could configure your MTA to rewrite the mail-header fields (including your return address) automatically upon send. This way you could set it the way your ISP expects. If you use exim, install the exim-doc package and have a look at the info-files for information on how to do it. I have set EMAIL to my email address, but my ISP will still not accept a fetchmail command, saying connection refused. I have gone through alll kinds of documentation, but the Mail HOW-TO and man pages are most uninformative. Check out if you use the right protocol (POP, IMAP) (I always thought fetchmail will autodetect this, but might be, that it fails for some reason). Also check out, that you give it the correct account details (either on command line or in your .fetchmailrc). Regards, Daniel
Re: why is kernel recompilation necessary?
Hello there, On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Preben Randhol wrote: Krzys Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 28/07/2000 (00:29) : Why is it that under Windows or whatever I don't have to recompile the kernel just to add a new driver? Is it a protection thing? Or an optimization thing? Or something else? -chris Usually you don't have to recompile your kernel under Linux. Just use the kernel-package that contains the kernel with all the modules you need. You don't HAVE to, but if you want a really fast, memory saving kernel, you SHOULD do it and exclude everything, you don't need. (Installation kernel was almost twice as large as the kernel I compiled by myself, as I could exclude SCSI-support and a few other things). Sure not a point of much interest on those beasts with 128 Mb RAM sold today, but on a computer with 8 Mb RAM, a large kernel eats up your vital memory. So in some way, really an optimization thing. I guess you could recompile your Windows kernel too _if_ you have access to the Windows source files and own a compiler. Right. Regards, Daniel
Re: explanation pls on postscripts,ghostscripts printing
Hello Joseph, On Fri, 7 Jul 2000, Joseph de los Santos wrote: Can someone please enlighten me regarding these subjects? I know that postscript is a programming language that describes the appearance of a printed page developed by Adobe in 1985 etc, and Ghostscript is an interpreter for the PostScript language, but how do I use it for printing? You are perfectly right, Ghostscript is the interpreter for PostScript. You only need this interpreter if you want to view PostScript on a device, which doesn't natively support PostScript. There are several (usually more expensive) Printers on the market, which have a built-in PostScript interpreter, so you could send a PostScript file directly to the Printer. However, if you want to print on a printer which doesn't have this interpreter built in (or if you want to preview your PostScript file on screen) you need something like Ghostscript, which will translate Postscript into the device's native language. doesn't the magicfilter package already supports gs/ps? magicfilter relies on ghostscript (and several other graphics conversion programs) to translate your PostScript files for the printer (if it doesn't have PostScript support built-in). In fact, it is more or less some kind of collection of scripts, which try to determine the file type of the things you want to print and invoke conversion programs with the correct options automagically. I mean, right now I am using magicfilter for my hp deskjet printer but when I print something the fonts look ugly...kind of like fonts from the console Might be, that you sent a plain text file to your printer? Try to print a PostScript file. and it also doesn't print in color plus pics printed also look bad when compared to those printed from a windows machine. perhaps that is my problem? Might also be, that you chose the wrong filter in magicfilterconfig. (if you haven't used magicfilterconfig, try 'man magicfilterconfig'). So, if you give more specs about your printer, the commands you used to print and the files you tried to print, maybe someone on the list could help you. Regards, Daniel
Re: man pages
Hello Michael, Have you checked, if makeindex.1.gz is not a link to undocumented.gz? On Sun, 2 Jul 2000, Michael Soulier wrote: Hey guys. I'm having some problems with my manpages. I have my MANPATH environment variable set to /usr/man:/usr/share/man. Now, under /usr/share/man/man1 I have makeindex.1.gz. However, when I type man makeindex, I get nothing. Normally, that'd be fine. Also, I just checked my weekly cronjobs, and found this: #!/bin/sh # # Last modification: Fri, 15 May 1998 08:06:59 +0300 # man-db cron weekly # regenerate man database if test -x /usr/bin/mandb then/usr/bin/nice /usr/bin/mandb --create 2/dev/null /dev/null fi So, just in case, I ran it. It didn't help. So, I guess I have the following questions: 1. Why doesn't man respect my MANPATH and work? 2. What is the man-db for and how does that work? 3. Where does man -k look for its data and how do I rebuild that? Help? Thanks, Mike - -- Michael P. Soulier, 1Z22, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks ...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort. -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: FW: ppp help
Hello Ashby, On Fri, 30 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't seem to get my modem to dial up though. Are there any good document pages (http) that explain how to set up dial up scripts? My modem is on ttys3 (com4). So far, I've been looking in /etc/ppp/* and have not understood what to do. Do I need some type of chat script? Seems you havn't run pppconfig. So just type it (as root) at the command prompt. You'll be asked some questions (Dialup Number, DNS-Addresses and the like), it will then create the necessary scripts automagically. Regards, Daniel
Re: Gnome-Language...
Hello everybody, On Thu, 8 Jun 2000, Preben Randhol wrote: Oliver Schoenknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/06/2000 (12:12) : due to some misconfiguration mine my whole GNOME now appears in complete English language - the menus as well as each dialogue box and so on... Until yesterday it ran in German so could it be that I have deleted an important file or something similar ? Does anyone of you have a hint on this ? I mean there must be a global configuration file GNOME uses... Not GNOME, but the whole system. You need to set the environments LANG, LC_ALL, LINGUAS. You can add it to you .bashrc file (assuming that you use bash) I'm not sure if this is correct for German, but I would guess: export LANG=de export LC_ALL=de_DE export LINGUAS=de Should be LANG=de_DE in the first case, I think. But the reason, why I contribute to this threat is another one. I encountered a similar problem, when I installed gdm (or xdm or wdm). The point is, that obviously, your .bashrc doesn't get read, if you use some display manager, so the language doesn't get set correctly. You can choose language in the gdm start-menu, but this didn't work, I got my session in english. I suppose one could set a system wide default for the language, but I don't want to do this, as I prefer to use the C lang-setting for root. So does anybody know a way to deal with this (get german language settings even when using a display manager)? Regards, Daniel
Re: Ghostvie won't read recent .pdf files
Hello David, On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, David Teague wrote: Subject line says it all. ghostview crashes when I try to read .pdf files created recently. Is there a fix? Hope someone knows ... or can give me a pointer to another source of information. AFAIK, ghostview really has difficulties with pdf-files. Two possible solutions: 1.) If you don't want to use Acrobat Reader for some reason, you could try out gv. It should display most pdf-files (and PostScript) without difficulties (There is also a gnome-version of it, but there have been reports of problems with it a while ago on this list). 2.) convert the pdf to PostScript before viewing. gs should be able to do it, there's a script for it, just look for the man page for pdf2ps. I don't know, if these two will handle all kinds of pdf-files, but you could give it a try. Regards, Daniel
Re: Debian 'crashes'
Hello Michiel, On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Michiel Meeuwissen wrote: It seems that a way to accomplish this is running apt-get upgrade, netsape and seti at the same time, in my computer (potato, PIII 500 64 Mb). On Netscape's webpage they strongly recommend at least 64 Mb of RAM for use of Netscape with Linux. So if you run Netscape AND another resource-eating program on a 64 Mb machine, you can expect high loads, at least at startup. Don't know why Netscape is more resource-eating on Linux than on Windows, but I would be strongly interested in that issue. What can be done about this? Does there exist some 'memory quota' mechanism? I would e.g. like to see that netscape processes never take more than 50 Mb of memory. You can change the nice-level of programs (man nice), then they will leave more of the system resources for other processes, but this will slow down the speed of the program. I don't think this is practical in case of Netscape. Or perhaps there exist some program which starts shooting of non essential processes (like those of *(@$(! netscape) when the load gets higher than 15 or 20 or so? Simpler solution: Don't start Netscape if you don't really, really need it. Regards, Daniel
Re: gdm Question (I think)
Hello Jay, On Mon, 29 May 2000, Jay Kelly wrote: Hello Guys, I'm currently using Gnome and starting it with startx I changed the .xsession so that O could start it from the console but when it starts I am no longer asked for a login name and pass. I want to be able to start gdm (I think that's what it is) so I have a choice to select from Gnome or Debian or Xwindows. Any idea's how I can accomplish this? GDM gives you a login prompt. But what you want is some way to select which Window-Manager/Desktop to use. This can be achieved by using wmanager. If you start X using startx, you'll get a little menu, where you can choose from the Window-Managers, which are installed on the system. Note: by giving entries like gnome-session and the like, you can not only select Window-Managers but also different sessions! The package contains a sample .xsession file for your home-directory. Try to find it and use it. If you just put the wmanager command at the end of your .xsession file, X will exit right after startup (It is left as an exercise to the reader, to find out why (pretty logical)). Regards, Daniel
Re: is there a gui frontend in X for dialing ppp?
Hello John, On Sun, 28 May 2000, john smith wrote: I have a few questions abt using ppp 1.what is a good gui program for dialing ppp instead of using pon blah in the console or term. There is a nice wmaker-applet called wmppp.app. You push a little button to start the connection, you push another to terminate it. While the connection is up, it displays data transmit rates and uptime. Regards, Daniel
Re: potato on 386
Hello Thomas, On Sun, 28 May 2000, Thomas Niesel wrote: Now I want to know how to get deb-files to the disk. Still got an corel-image which I know its debian-based, mounted as an loop-device. I can browse the CD but I don't know how to install the files. I know it's maybe old stuff but to play around it is ok. The man-program is missing so I can't look at the man-pages on the disk :( mandb is not included in the base system, and debian provides three different tools to install packages. 1.) dpkg: low-level package-handler. type something like dpkg --install /unix/path/to/packagename.deb to install a package. If there are dependency problems, the program will exit with an error message and tell you which packages are missing, so you can install them first. 2.) dselect: nice front-end to dpkg, allows you to specify a install method, browse a list of available packages and mark them for installation. Just type 'dselect' to start it. It will tell you if there are dependency problems and mark the required packages for installation. When you quit the list, you can specify (via a menu) install, and it will install. 3.) apt: nice command line frontend to dpkg, but I would not recommend using it for a first install of Debian (although, when you get used to it, it is really a powerful and easy to use package-management system, especially for upgrades. It will fetch the packages automagically and take care of dependencies and version numbers (you just specify the package names, not the full file name with version number and deb-extension). So install man-db via dpkg (or dselect), then read the man-page of apt-get (not apt, the actual program is called apt-get), and see what you can get out of it (as you worked with other distros and managed to mount a CD-ROM, I suppose, a lot). Regards, Daniel P.S.: don't know, if the corel image will work well, I have absolutely no experience in mixing debian and corel and what's the difference between the two. If you have fast internet-connectivity, you could give frozen a try, I am using it since about February and have not had severe problems (although there are still some bugs).(And it's no problem to upgrade the packages later, apt-get will do that for you. Automagically!)
Re: wvdial dials; kppp doesn't. Why???
Hello Chris, On Sun, 28 May 2000, Chris Joyner wrote: I can use wvdial from a console (but only as root! BTW, how do I get to use wvdial as another user?) You have to add the users which shall be allowed to connect via ppp to the dip group (e.g. with: adduser username dip). Regards, Daniel
Re: system clock workaround
Hello Owen, On Thu, 25 May 2000, Owen G. Emry wrote: My firewall machine (a trusty old 486 DX4) has a bios that doesn't like the year 2000. It isn't a major problem but several things (e.g. make) complain, so is there an easy workaround? I assume I can just set the real-time clock to, say, 1990, and have the internal clock set itself to the RTC + ten years on bootup. What do I have to change to accomplish this, or is there a better solution altogether? I had exactly the same problem with one of my machines. (AWARD-Bios, switched the year back to 1994 on every reboot since 2000, Unicore offered me an upgrade for about 50$, hell, that's more than the whole machine is worth! ;-). I also thought about a solution like the one you mentioned, until I found out that on potato hwclock there is an option --badyear. This tells hwclock that it has to manage a faulty BIOS-year-setting. It then will set it four years back (to be able to cope with leap years), but set system time on bootup correctly, so everything works fine. So, if you have potato installed, read the manpage of hwclock. If you have slink, you can either upgrade the whole system or try to get an upgrade for hwclock. Regards, Daniel
Re: can't print
Hello there, Just to add some (perhaps) useful information: On Wed, 24 May 2000, Kenneth Scharf wrote: I did it by (manually) insmod'ing: parport.o parport_pc.o lp.o Only an issue with kernel 2.2.x and higher. With kernel 2.0.x it's a bit different. I found that loading parport_pc automagicly loaded parport. Atleast when using modconfig and selecting parport_pc it also grabbed parport. I think we have a layered driver here, lp sits on top of parport_pc on top of parport. Or something like that. Right. There's more info about all this in the file parport.txt in the Documentation in the kernel-source tree. IMHO, very good information. Regards, Daniel
Re: cpu arch performance
Hello Lee, On Tue, 23 May 2000, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello list(s), Just something I noticed after setting up an x86 system after running Debian on m68k. The m68k system was an Amiga with an m68060/50MHz which gave a BogoMIP rating of 99.something. The x86 system is a dual PIII 650MHz system and it rates as 2600 BogoMIPs. This would seem to imply that on a per MHz basis, the m68060 is the equivalent of two PIIIs. This is right. AFAIK, the hardware side of the issue goes something like this: One phase of the clock signal looks something like this: Voltage high ||| low ||| The x86 Processors will issue a command whenever the signal voltage is high. The m68k processors will issue a command whenever the signal voltage is high and the next when it's low (Motorola claims, that the 68060 issues three commands per clock cycle, I don't know why you then don't get three times the MIPS value of a x86 on a per MHz basis. I also don't know if the above mentioned holds true for Pentium and upwards. But it holds true for 386 and 486). This is why a m68k processor is on a per MHz basis really twice as fast as a x86 processor. Regards, Daniel
Re: transfer files
Hello Chris, On Wed, 17 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote: I'm used to transferring whole directory trees with ws-ftp under windows. When using Linux fom the shell, what's the easiest way to do the same thing? You might have a look at wget. It can do all the transfer in the background (so suited for stuff like mirroring) and is very powerful. It is issued from the command line, but it is (IMHO) very well documented (info-files), so it shouldn't be too difficult to use. John Pearson already mentioned lftp in this thread. I also like it very much, although I don't use it much for recursive retrieval of directory trees. Regards, Daniel
Re: newbie plip question
Hello Russell, You wrote: I have been given a 2 cd copy of slink, that I am going to put on my main box. Is there anything special that I should install/be aware of in order to run a plip? plip setup on slink (with kernel 2.0.x) step by step: I suppose you have the plip module compiled. 1.) you can use modconf to configure and to load it. If you have 2 parallel ports and want to use one for the printer and the other for plip, you have to assign the irq and io parameters of one physical port to the lp-module and the parameters of the other port to the plip module. Syntax (example, change parameters if needed): io=0x278, irq=7 Otherwise the module, which is loaded first will grab all parallel ports, and you can't load the other one anymore. 2.) configure the interface: issue as root (on both machines): ifconfig plip0 ip.number.of.localhost pointopoint ip.number.of.remotehost and route add ip.number.of.remotehost plip0 now you should be able to ping from one machine to another. If /etc/hosts is setup correctly, you should be able to use the names of the machines to ping. If it works, you can put these two commands at the end of your /etc/init.d/network files, so that it gets executed on startup. That's it. (should work from Linux to Linux, I have no experience in setting up plip from Linux to Windoze, don't know if it even works) Note that the number of your plip-device can differ from the one given above. With kernel 2.0.x it depends on the hardware address. With kernel 2.2.x it's somewhat different concerning the configuration of the modules (because of the new managment of the Parallel ports with the parport device). If you plan to use this kernel, read the Documentation in the kernel-source tree in parport.txt. There all the issues are described in detail. Regards, Daniel
Re: installing a printer
Hello Pollywog, On Sat, 13 May 2000, Pollywog wrote: I did not configure a printer when I installed Debian. Is there a tool to help me configure a printer now without reinstalling Debian? Of course you can configure a printer without reinstalling. The Debian way of doing things lets you do almost everything without even rebooting (remember: Linux is NOT at all like Windoze;-) (There are some exceptions, e.g. if you compiled a new kernel and want to start with it). Get the Printing-HOWTO at http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO.html There, all the steps are described. In short: 1. install printer spooling software (usually lpr or lprng) 2. install filter software (magicfilter or apsfilter, would be good to install all the tools, which they recommend (gs, jpeg-progs and the like) 3. run magicfilterconfig to configure your /etc/printcap file I am getting an Epson Stylus Color 740 and I will use the parallel connector until the 2.4 kernels are released. There was something about the Epson Stylus Color 740 on this list just a while ago. If it doesn't work, look at these mails or in the archive. I will need to recompile my kernel with printer support No you don't, because: The lp-module and the parport-modules will get installed during the installation of Debian (even if you didn't configure them during installation!), so if you didn't accidentally remove them, you should just make sure, that they are loaded, when printing. (Try the program modconf to tell your system which modules to load on startup and to configure them). Although it would not be a bad idea to recompile your kernel. It usually makes your system faster and the kernel smaller (as you can exclude drivers, which you don't need). Regards, Daniel
Re: enabling printing
Hello Maury, Read the printing HOWTO at http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/Printing-HOWTO.html short summary of the steps you would have to take: - install spooling software (lpr or lprng or similar) - if you don't just want to be able to print plain text: install gs - install filter software (magicfilter, apsfilter) - perhaps install some further graphics conversion software (package magicfilter recommends a reasonable set of packages, which include support for printing jpeg, tiff and some other) - setup your /etc/printcap file (magicfilterconfig can do that for you for local printers) - if your printer is attached to the parallel port, make sure the lp-module is available to your kernel. Regards, Daniel On Thu, 11 May 2000, Maury R. Merkin wrote: I now have a BJC-2010 printer. What do I have to do to get it to work?
Re: Q: Potato install tool to config X is?
Hello Jonathan, On Fri, 12 May 2000, Jonathan Gift wrote: Does the install procedure on Potato require you dig up the monitor's frequency rate, etc, Yes it does. You can of course always choose one of the least demanding modes for the hardware (640x480, 16 colours (in fact this is what XF86Setup does. Uses this mode with the VGA16 server to throw you directly into X for a graphical configuration and later on switches to the better settings you supplied)). But if you want to get the best out of your hardware, you should know the capabilities of your monitor/graphics card. Most modern monitors have protection circuits against a dotclock which is too high, so at least you can't damage anything anymore (But be careful! Older monitors (and perhaps also some of the newer ones, I don't know) don't have this feature). So it would not be bad, if you could get the information (as you have to enter it in XF86Setup anyway). Regards, Daniel
Re: Re[2]: Emacs - was Re: Mail/news software
Hello all there, On Wed, 3 May 2000, Steve Lamb wrote: For me it isn't a GUI/CLI mindset it is simply the ability to do what needs to be done. Windows doesn't let me do that in most cases. The standard 'nix utilities provide a lot of automation for mundane tasks. I've been following this thread for some time, and this is exactly the mail I've always been waiting for, because IMHO that's exactly the point about the whole discussion. The first time I had contact with Unix in general was in my soil physics lecture at university. We've been calculating some models on water and solute flux in soils on IBM RS/6000 machines with AIX, and as none of us two students in the course had any knowledge about Unix, the Prof gave us a short introduction. One thing I kept specially in mind: We had to remove a directory, so the prof said (in german, I'm translating into English): Just enter rm -rf directory/. rm means remove, r means recursive and f means force: Do it and don't ask stupid questions (the computer, not us students). So we entered it and the computer did it and didn't ask stupid questions. Being at that time used to the windoze way of doing things, where you often have to struggle some kind of fight with your computer to get things done, I've at once been fascinated by the way you tell the computer in clear precise language, what he has to do, and he does it. We have been doing other fancy (for me at that time) things on the computers, so this course could actually be seen as a turning point in my attitude towards computers and OSes. So a short time later I switched to Linux on my computer at home (doing it quite radically, not that kind of dual-boot stuff;-). So to focus on the main point again: It really isn't the GUI/CLI-matter. I like GUIs. But sometimes things can be done much faster, easier and more precise on the command line. And this being able to choose the way to do things and being able to do things that have to be done (And you don't have that in windoze) is one of the main advantages of UNIX/Linux. Regards, Daniel P.S.: Some might perhaps consider this mail much too long, or much too far off topic for this list, but sorry: I just had to get this off my chest.
Re: hi and ?
Hello Robert, Just a few additions to Ron's information (wanted to send something similar, but Ron was faster ;-) On 4 May 2000, Robert Fendt wrote: i have read the ethernet-HOWTO and the networking-HOWTO, but somehow it was pretty late at night and i wasn't able to get the info i wanted. Have you read the Networking-Overview-HOWTO or the NET3-4-HOWTO? If you want to set things up, you should get the NET3-4-HOWTO, the Networking-Overview-HOWTO is, as the name already implies, just an overview. so i hope you can give me some hints how to proceed: Ron's setup will only configure the interfaces. So if you want to telnet, ftp or ping (or something similar) the other machine, you always have to use the IP-Numbers. If you want to assign names to your machines, you have to do the following: edit file /etc/hosts in both machines, so that it looks something like that (There are sometimes some other things to do about that, but they usually come properly configured on the debian distro): # /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback 10.124.124.1thishostname 10.124.124.3otherhostname You could also setup DNS, but I don't think this is worth to consider on a network with two machines. Assuming, you have telnetd installed you will then be able to do something like: telnet thishostname from host otherhostname. The IP-addresses only apply to Ron's example, if you use different ones in the ifconfig, you will also have to use different ones in the /etc/hosts file. Also note, that Ron's file will only apply to one computer, to configure the other, you have to change IP-addresses. Perhaps you might have a look at http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1918.html This is RFC1918 (some kind of Internet Standard, don't know what RFC stands for). It's about Best Current Practice for Address Allocation for Private Internets (i.e. LANs), and might give you some hints about which IP-numbers (addresses) to choose for your machines. point me to some documents on the net: Apart from the HOWTOs try the Linux Network Administrators Guide at http://www.linuxdoc.org/docs.html It's a bit outdated, but still a good explanation of the Theories and Principles of Networking (For actual setup use the HOWTOs, they provide more up-to-date information on the practical side) Regards, Daniel
Re: KDE various deb - matters
Hello Sven, On Thu, 4 May 2000, Sven Burgener wrote: I guess the next thing to do is to install a window manager, right? right. For best KDE-integration you could use Enlightenment (Though a resource hog). If you want to use a lightweight alternative, you could use blackbox. There are many other, check the package-description on the debian web-page or in dselect under section X11. if you have disc-space to waste you install some of them and check which one you like best. I want KDE and so I wonder how I should install that? Which packages are necessary and is there anything additional I _should_ know about? KDE does not come with the debian-distribution. But there are installation-ready .deb-files at http://www.kde.org Which (K-)packages do you suggest me to install apart from that? Look at kde's homepage (see above), depends on your needs. Oh, yes, one last thing. I've built kernels before, just not on debian. So, to build a new kernel, I know I need the following packages for sure: -gcc -kernel-source (is that the package-name?) -make -libraries ... ? Anything else? Probably ... You could run dselect, choose select and look for package kernel-source. in the info field, there should be an item like depends on: this package, that package, another package and one recommends: this package, that package, another package. There are sure more elegant ways to find out about dependencies, but I think this one is quite easy, and you can browse through the list of available packages for other things, you might need) So you'll find out, what you need for kernel-compilation (it's in essence the packages you mentioned above+libc6-dev. There are several packages to make compilation more spiffy and easier, but they are not necessary, if you're used to kernel-compilation, you will be able to do with the bare minimum). Regards, Daniel
Re: GNOME Gripes
Hello out there, On Mon, 1 May 2000, Ross Boylan wrote: Stability: Balsa crashes very frequently. This seems to be a widely encountered problem. On my box (i486), balsa from potato crashes just on startup (Segfault). It was the first time I installed it, so I got the one from stable for testing purposes. This worked. It really seems to be a problem with the new version. Aesthetics: I think the default enlightenment theme--in fact most of the themes for most of the window managers--are just ugly. The default theme makes it look as if you have a rusting scrap heap on your desk. That's not a GNOME-Problem. There are hundreds of themes out on the web (for example at: http://e.themes.org/), just get the one that suits your needs. Only the NextStep derivatives have a decent look, to my eye. I also like the NextStep Look and Feel very much. By the way, I think GNOME has a much more beautiful interface out of the box than for example KDE. But that's a matter of taste, and as we all know it's just a matter of configuration. Regards, Daniel
RE: Learning Linux
Hello Dominic, On Tue, 2 May 2000, Dominic Blythe wrote: Do yourself a favor, and PRINT IT OUT. It comes in postscript format, so you should be able to just drag-n-drop the postscript file to your printer. not with 99.99% of Win printers... If you have aladdin ghostscript installed (there is a Windoze version of it: have a look at http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/aladdin/get510.html), it should work with 99.99% of Win printers ;-) Regards, Daniel
Re: Loading Debain by PPP connection
Hello Dan, On Mon, 1 May 2000, Dan Hutchinson wrote: I have loaded my home PC with the base system from debian download. I try to connect to the web to download the debian packages from the web. When I run dselect it trys to connect through the NIC card I have. I have a PC with a NIC and a PPP modem. What files to I have to manaul configure with a base debian system or can I run something like pppconfig. Dan You not only can run pppconfig, you even HAVE to run it to get a working ppp-connection, as your computer won't know the phone-number and all the other information it needs to connect to your provider. pppconfig comes with the base system, so it should be there. It's IMHO easy to use, just enter some things as phone-number of your provider, DNS-Server etc.. After having done this you should normally be able to start a connection with the following command: pon (as root or as member of the dip-group) to terminate type: poff Regards, Daniel
Re: framebuffer leaves the consolle in ruines
Hello out there, On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 06:37:36PM +0200, Joost Claessen wrote: On your console, type reset (no quotes) I encountered cases, where this didn't work, then use: consolechars -d (on potato) on slink it was: setfont -d Regards, Daniel
remote-lp on potato
Hello there, When at home, I connect my laptop to my desktop via PLIP. The printer I have, is connected to the desktop, so I had setup lpd on my laptop in a way, that it can do remote printing via the desktop (remote line printer entry in /etc/printcap). This works fine with slink on the desktop. Recently I installed potato on the desktop. From then on, remote printing from the laptop didn't work anymore. The messages I get when I issue lpr -Prp are: lpr: connect: file or directory not found jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. if I do lprm -Prp I get: desktophostname: /usr/sbin/lpd: lp: your host does not have line printer access. I supposed it had something to do with the access-control formerly provided by the /etc/hosts.lpd file. So I read the manpage about lpd, if something has changed with access-control via the /etc/hosts.lpd file. But obviously no change. Then I looked for the /etc/hosts.lpd file but could not find it. So I created one and put the hostname of the laptop in. It didn't help. Then I tried the IP-Number. Didn't help either (always terminated and restarted lpd inbetween). So my questions: First of all: How do I get things to work (i.e. allow access to printing services on the desktop for my laptop)? Why is the /etc/hosts.lpd file still mentioned in the manpage, if it doesn't work and if it is not included in potato? Regards, Daniel
Re: psutils and Postscript manipulation
Hello Viktor, On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Viktor Rosenfeld wrote: is there good documentation of the Postscript file format, so somebody could write a short perl script? There is a book called The Postscript Language Reference Manual from Adobe Systems Inc. published by Addison Wesley. This book is surely the thing you are looking for, as one could call it the Postscript Bible. Regards, Daniel
Re: What are the most common causes of linux system hangs?
Hello Joe, On Fri, 14 Apr 2000, Joe Emenaker wrote: Currently, I'm having this problem with one. Just... out of the blue, it will hang dead in its tracks. The keyboard doesn't even wake the screen so I can see if there are any kernel panic messages or anything. Ctrl-Alt-Del doesn't do anything. I have to hit the rest button. Now, I'm pretty certain that it's some hardware problem. But, I'd like to avoid moving the whole system to a brand-new machine, find that the problem has gone away, and conclude that there's just *something* bad about the old server and that I need to chuck the whole thing. So, I'd like to isolate the problem, if I could. With that in mind, does anyone have any personal experience concerning what the problem usually is in these cases? Motherboard? RAM? Has it ever helped anyone to *under*clock the CPU? I'm anxious for any ideas I can only tell you about some experiences I made with an old 486, which I got very cheap without a harddisc. I bought an IDE-HD and put it in, installed debian and I also got occasional system crashes with exactly the same symptoms as you reported, except that it always occured, when there was heavy I/O on the harddisc, and afterwards the hd-LED was always on. I also tried different settings, with the demons and so on, but it didn't help. As I had a small DOS-Partition on the hard-drive, I booted into DOS, just to test. The problem still occured. So it was quite clear to me, that it should be a hardware matter. In my case, it was easy to isolate the problem. I assumed, that the computer had worked fine in the office, it had been used before (as some kind of diskless terminal, booting from a network). So it was clear to me, that it had to do something with the harddisc which I put in. First thing, I did, was change the connector cable. Didn't help. As the harddisc was new, I supposed, it could be a problem with the I/O-card, which was in the computer. So I exchanged that one, and guess what? The thing worked fine. So in essence, I agree with you, that your Problem might most probably be a hardware matter. But it could be very difficult to isolate the problem. I am not an expert in hardware matters, but I don't think that underclocking would be the way to go. If your motherboard and CPU fit together, and they support the clock you are using, this shouldn't be a problem (There was another mail on the debian-user list just recently, saying that W95 was falling over on AMDs faster than 350MHz on certain motherboards, but we're not talking about windoze in your case, and I don't think this is a very common case). I don't know, how BIOS RAM-Tests work, but I would first of all conclude, that if this one never reports a problem, it should not be a problem with the RAM. Don't count on my tips too much, as I am not a techie, but just a normal user. But I just wanted to show you, how I would try to isolate the problem: Try removing or exchanging (one by one) those things from your system, that could cause the crashes. Start with the components, which are most likely to cause the problem, and which can most easily be removed/exchanged (For example easy to exchange: connector cables). This can be a very time consuming thing, but I don't see another way of isolating hardware problems of such a kind, when you don't get error reports or kernel-messages in case of a crash. So this mail is perhaps not of much help for you, as I can't say: This or that is definitely the thing to look at. But I also think, that this would be impossible to do, as it can be many things in the inside of your computer, which can cause such problems. Regards, Daniel
Re: kde in .deb
Hello Kent, On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Kent Nyberg wrote: Where can i find kde in .deb ?? look at kde's website at: http://www.kde.org/ They offer prepackaged binaries in .deb format. Regards, Daniel
Re: 2 ?'s, Pon normal users, colour in config programs.
Hello John, On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, John Anderson wrote: I tried putting normal users in /etc/group under dip like this: dip:x:1000:1001 still, the computer says, permission denied to /usr/sbin/pppd. Did I configure it incorrectly? Is there anyway to get this working? Perhaps it would be easier to use the 'adduser' command instead of editing the file by hand. See the man page for 'adduser', AFAIK you can add an already existing user to an already existing group by typing (as root): adduser existing user existing group Regards, Daniel
Re: dselect deinstalled all software!!!
Hello Mark, On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Mark Phillips wrote: When I start the machine the letters LI come on the screen and then nothing happens. In the meantime, I'm trying to advise him from afar. I am thinking he needs to get a rescue disk from somewhere, That's definitely the right way to go, get rescue.bin and write it to a floppy using rawrite or dd. When the system boots, check if really all the packages have gone. From the problem description (the computer displaying LI and nothing more), one could also conclude that it is a problem with the new LILO version, which got automatically installed, that could be solved by just running /sbin/lilo. Regards, Daniel
Re: nfssvc: Function not implemented
Hello Nikos, On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Nikos Voutsinas wrote: I found that I should recompile the kernel with the NFSD support... The problem is that there isn't any NFSD option in the Network FileSystem part, but only the NFS filesystem support ...? I don't know if missing nfs code in the kernel will produce the error messages you posted. But if you want to use nfs, you definitely have to say 'yes' or 'module' to the option NFS filesystem support. Starting NFS kernel daemon: export server.domain:/directory: Function not implemented nfsd nfssvc: Function not implemented mountd done. Regards, Daniel
Re: [*] GDB question
Hello Zhang, On 10 Apr 2000, maths wrote: by the way, where can i find good tutorial of GDB? IMHO the info pages provide a pretty good introduction to gdb. But there may be far better documentation about it somewhere on the web. Regards, Daniel
Re: PLIP configuration
Hello Colin, On Wed, 5 Apr 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking to use PLIP to network 2 machines together. I'm running kernel 2.2.14, and have the PLIP module available, along with the other obvious modules like TCP/IP, firewalling, etc. However, upon modprobe plip, i get the error: /lib/modules/2.2.14/net/plip.o: init_module: Device or resource busy I am not sure, if this is the solution to your problem, but might be a matter to look into: I had exactly the same problem with a new parallel port card, I put into my system. It had some jumpers on it to switch between SPP, EPP and ECP mode. I first set it up to use ECP mode and assigned a DMA-Channel to it. This resulted in the error message you got, both with the plip and the lp module. So I switched to EPP mode, and everything worked fine. Seems to me if Linux doesn't yet support ECP mode. But perhaps I'm wrong, and there's a way to get it working. To everyone on the list: please tell me, if you know better. Regards, Daniel
Re: Re: stupid question about gs
Hello there, On Thu, 6 Apr 2000, Paolo Pedaletti wrote: Ciao Chris Gray, have a stupid question about gs: how to specify the pages i want to print? by the way and how to print in reverse order a n 1 of pages? I haven't find anything, looking around... Try the package psutils. There are some really useful utilities for manipulating postscript files, including selecting certain pages, reordering pages and the like. When you have installed the package try 'man psselect' or 'man psbook'. There are some other commands, but you'll find out on the manpages. You can write the newly created postscript code to a new file, but it should also be possible to send it through a pipe directly to lpr. Regards, Daniel
Re: Simple text screen editor
Hello John, On Tue, 4 Apr 2000, John Gould wrote: Hello everyone, I need to give a couple of users a simple editor that works within a virtual terminal (not X). These people are not really computer literate and would have trouble with vi or vim. They would be following written instructions to edit a couple of config files. Has anyone any suggestions as to a simple editor I could install...? You could use ee. ee is an acronym for easy editor, in the package description it says: An easy editor for novices and compuphobics. I suppose, that this is what you want. Regards, Daniel
Re: Make/makefiles
Hello Bart, Can anybody tell me how to make a *simple* makefile? Or a URL where I can find more info? The manpages aren't very clear, and *way* too extensive. try the info-pages on make (hope you have some kind of info-browser installed). There is a chapter at the beginning (some kind of introduction), where they describe step by step the construction of a very simple makefile for a program with about 5 or so source code files. I have a small project with 3 source code files, and I don't want to compile all of them every time. I was in the same situation like you that weekend, was the first time I ever used a makefile, and I really felt the same, that the manpage is not that good in such a case, but the info-files really did help. Regards, Daniel
Re: printer port
Hello there, On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, John Anderson wrote: Did you configure the parallel printer port module during the installation of Debian? If not that may explain the problem. I'm not very experienced with Linux, but I would say that the kernal would have to be redone or reinstalling Debian if it's easy enough. If this is really the problem, you do not have to reinstall the whole system, and usually you also do not have to recompile your kernel (though this is always a thing to consider after a new installation, as it usually makes your kernel smaller and therefore your system faster). Many modules get installed automatically while installing debian, the lp-module for the printer-port included. If you didn't configure this during installation, you can do it by running the modconf command, which allows you to load and configure modules after your installation is completed. Regards, Daniel
Similar problem as in Re: messed up terminal
Hello there, On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2000, Evan Moore wrote: after reading a binary file sometimes the terminal gets all messed up and everything is displayed in symbols. I'm sure everyone has done this a few times. How can I get my terminal back to normal? Thanks a lot fist press ^c (just to flush the input buffer) then run reset Concerning a similar problem I encountered a very strange behaviour. When in text mode I have no problem with my console. But when I run X (from the stable distri), and then switch back to console (either by killing my X-Session or by switching to a different VT), the screen is completely messed up with strange symbols. The problem is, that the normal mode CAN NOT BE RESTORED neither with reset nor with tset nor with clear nor with kbd_mode. The only way to get out of that odd situation is to shutdown and reboot. I read somewhere in the X-documentation, that this problem is due to some combinations of motherboard and graphics-card and that it can probably be solved by using the runx-script in the svga-lib-package. So I unpacked the svgalib-deb in /tmp, and looked at it, but found no file, which resembled some kind of runx-script. Does anybody know a solution to that problem, or where to find that ominous runx-script? Regards, Daniel
Re: compiling new kernel
Hello there, On 7 Mar 2000, Marshal Wong wrote: If I may inquire, why are you trying to compile a 2.2.x kernel for a i386? That's going to hurt. I compiled a 2.0.x kernel on my old 486 and it took over 5 hours! What kind of kernel did you compile, and on what kind of machine? I compiled a 2.0.36 kernel twice on 486 machines: One on a machine with Intel 486DX2 @ 75 MHz with 8MB RAM: This took about 55 Minutes. The second on a machine with Cyrix 486SX @ 66MHz with 24 MB RAM. This took about 25 Minutes, though the kernel was a bit larger, with more networking drivers included. Greetings, Daniel
Re: Printers in Linux
Hello there, On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, S.P. van Noort wrote: the only printer that is sold in The Netherlands which works perfectly is the HP 610C. I just recently bought a HP 610C, and it works really fine. The printers I've seen here in Holland are, a.o. HP 610, 710, 720, 815, 840, 880 Epson 460, 660, 760 Canon 2000, 3000, 6100 I can't find any of the printers in magicfilter and apsfilter. There is a magicfilter-configurationfile in /etc/magicfilter called 'dj550c-filter'. I use this file for my HP 610C, and it should normally work with other HP-Deskjet-Printers using PCL Level 3 as well. For Epson 660 and 760 printers, there is a file for stylus color printers called stylus_color_360dpi-filter. This should work. Concerning apsfilter, I can't tell you anything, as I am only using magicfilter. Greetings, Daniel
