Re: DNS lookups in Sid

2009-05-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Old Crankbuster crankbus...@gmail.com [2009-05-14 19:25:48 +0700]:

 * Old Crankbuster crankbus...@gmail.com [2009-05-14 19:22:14 +0700]:
 
  
  $ nslookup security.debian.org
  Server: 127.0.0.1
  Address:127.0.0.1#53
  
 Oops wrong output, should read:
 
 Server:   192.168.1.1
 Address:  192.168.1.1#53
  

This doesn't look like a problem with DNS.

But what could it be?

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Re: Encrypting incoming messages with GnuPG

2009-05-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com [2009-05-09 11:14:14 +0100]:

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 Hash: SHA1
 
 I was wondering if anyone knew of a way, perhaps using /etc/aliases, so
 that all incoming mail addressed to my username (hrickards) is encrypted
 with *my* public key, so that when I read it only I can read it using
 *my* private key. If the mail was signed or encrypted beforehand, it
 could then be decrypted with my private key as usual.
 

Hmm.  So, we're looking at encrypting mails as they come in, prior to
disk write, in a format that you, and only you, can later decrypt them,
preferably using gpg.  I don't care why, it's an intereѕting problem.

Local storage remains secure.  At least that's what I think is the
intention.

Outside of using some disk encryption system like this:

http://www.debianhelp.org/node/15244

I'd try to pipe the mail fetchmail, procmail (pipe to
encryptionscrypt,write-encrypted-email-to-disk)

Remembering procmail only functions as a gate, and does not write the
mail to disk until told to, and neither does fetchmail 
(or getmail or retchmail).

script should be very simple:

gpg -e -r yourusergpgidhere themessage

Build from that command. 

Trick is to not write to disk prior to encryption.

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Re: Encrypting incoming messages with GnuPG

2009-05-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com [2009-05-09 18:24:37 +0100]:

 
 When piping stuff to it from the command line it works fine, but when
 sending a test email to gpm...@l33tmyst.com I get a blank email in
 response. I think this is because /usr/bin/gpmail is being executed as
 the 'nobody' user (I setup a whoami script), and I've setup the GPG keys
 for the 'mail' user. nobody can't use GPG, as it doesn't have a home
 directory, so is there a way to change the user that Postfix pipes
 things to with (to mail or any other user with a home directory)? Thanks
 for all the help.

Curious, why are you trying to do the thing with postfix?  Seems like an
overly complicated parent for the script. 

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Re: Encrypting incoming messages with GnuPG

2009-05-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Dave Patterson sdpa...@gmail.com [2009-05-10 01:34:46 +0700]:
 
 Curious, why are you trying to do the thing with postfix?  Seems like an
 overly complicated parent for the script. 

Postfix won't write the thing to disk either.  You can configure postfix
to use procmail for delivery, and procmail will push the mail
through the script to the user.  I don't see the fussing with aliases,
but I don't use tbird :-/

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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Patterson
* Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net [2009-05-01 09:52:58 -0400]:

 As much as I'm a proponent for good manuals, vs. google... you can  
 always add -ubuntu to your search query

Good point.


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Re: Nvidia driver and second screen

2009-05-01 Thread Dave Patterson
* Sjoerd Hardeman sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl [2009-05-01 15:40:22 +0200]:


 Probably no Nvidia for me next time.
 
I'm going crazy with fglrx over here, so I don't know if you'd have
better luck on ATI.

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Re: kernel-package??

2009-04-30 Thread Dave Patterson
* Randy Patterson t...@patterson-pcc.com [2009-04-30 10:28:00 -0500]:


 
 I guess I assumed that kernel-package was to build the kernel from the source 
 used by the current Debian distro installed. So if that's not the case and I 
 decided to use the latest stable from kernel.org, is it advantageous to use 
 kernel-package or find a good howto and learn to build and install using a 
 more 
 low level approach. I'm mainly looking at just optimizing the config file for 
 a 
 particular systems to building a leaner meaner kernel. I have some older 
 systems that don't do anything but grid computing. I thought if I removed a 
 lot of the stuff that wasn't being used in the kernel I could speed these up 
 a 
 little.

Yup, I do that, and I use kernel-package to do it.  It's a very
versatile wrapper script that calls the necessary commands to do the
actual compiling of the kernel and and then builds a debian package
which you can then install with 'dpkg -i'.

the configuration of the kernel you do prior to using kernel-package,
usually thru an ncurseѕ, qt, or gtk interface.

Good tutorial here:

http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html 


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Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

2009-04-30 Thread Dave Patterson
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2009-04-30 08:41:14 -0700]:

 If I wanted
 Ubuntu answers, 1) I'd be special in the head to start with

Agreed.

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Re: Desktop Search Engines

2009-04-30 Thread Dave Patterson
* Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org [2009-04-30 08:56:38 -0700]:

 
 I just recently switched from Google Desktop for Linux to beagle for
 that task.
 

Lenny or Sid?

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Re: kernel-package??

2009-04-30 Thread Dave Patterson
* Randy Patterson t...@patterson-pcc.com [2009-04-30 11:29:33 -0500]:


 Dave, with a last name like yours I must assume that this is excellent 
 advice! 
 :-) Thanks for everyone's input. I will now travel down the kernel-package 
 road. 

The tutorial's old, but it stands the test of time ;-)

And don't assume anything about the name.  We got some pirates in our
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Re: Grub2 question

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Patterson
* Curt Howland howl...@priss.com [2009-04-03 11:08:03 -0400]:

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 Is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= in /etc/default/grub where I put vga=791 to get 
 the same function in grub2 that I had putting vga=791 
 into /boot/grub/menu.lst in grub1?
 
 Just want confirmation before I try it, just in case.

Yup, and that's about all I know about it.  Documentation? We don't need
no steenking documentation...

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Re: Grub2 question

2009-04-03 Thread Dave Patterson
* Curt Howland howl...@priss.com [2009-04-03 16:03:12 -0400]:

 
 I gladly admit that it wasn't until his RTFM screed that I found out 
 about /usr/share/doc. I think /usr/share/doc should get a LOT more 
 mention than it does. (and a lot more data, such as on grub2)
 
GRUB2 looks pretty, and has lots of switches and stuff in it, but I get
the feeling that upstream doesn't even know what they all do.

I'd play with it, if anybody could figure out how to password protect
it.

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Re: problem with apt

2009-03-31 Thread Dave Patterson
* Michael Ekstrand mich...@elehack.net [2009-03-31 21:20:51 -0500]:

 
 Do be careful, though, that you don't let it remove important things
 that you use :).

Like, all of gnome.  I've done that before...


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Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net [2009-03-22 16:06:06 -0500]:



 Except that Our arguments are Right, and Theirs are Eeeevil.


Here we go.  I can imagine the hearings now:

Are you now, or have you ever been, a top poster?

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Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Christofer C. Bell christofer.c.b...@gmail.com [2009-03-22 16:24:52 -0500]:

 
 I remember the days before 1994 and the Great AOL Floodgates opening...

A 286 accelerator card in an 8086 IBM with a 20 Mg hard drive and 5 1/4
floppy drive.  56k modem.  Hotrod machine for the day.

I don't miss it.

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Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net [2009-03-22 21:20:30 -0500]:


 You must have missed the Editor Wars...

 Why do we have to hide from the police, Daddy?
 Because we use vi, son.  They use emacs.

 Escape Meta Alt Control Shift

 Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping

 EMACS Makes Any Computer Slow


Hoo, boy.  Can a participant apply for PTSD benefits as a veteran of
that one?  How about the border skirmishes: vi/vim, emacs/xemacs, nano's
ongoing insurgency


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Re: Top posting vs Bottom posting

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. b...@iguanasuicide.net [2009-03-22 20:34:50 -0500]:

 
 That's hyperbole, at the very least.  The original Pentium was released on 
 March 22, 1993. 3 1/2 disks had been available for a while.  While the 
 first GB disk wouldn't be seen until 1995, 100MB drives were available.

Not in '87.  I recalled the modem wrong, though.  Memory serves a V.22
complient USR, and it was slower.

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Re: which package can display chart?

2009-03-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Long Wind longwind2...@gmail.com [2009-03-23 00:40:55 -0400]:

 
 I have never seen crash or attack in Linux

Then you should read this and think about it:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/07/msg3.html 

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Re: concern about the state of Debian

2009-03-21 Thread Dave Patterson
* ghe g...@slsware.com [2009-03-21 13:35:03 -0600]:

 
 Oops! While I was trying to get my mail server back online, the Debian
 MTA was trying to send me mail saying this bug had been closed...
 
Long day?

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Re: concern about the state of Debian

2009-03-21 Thread Dave Patterson
* ghe g...@slsware.com [2009-03-21 13:42:04 -0600]:


 All morning :-(

Was it the recent kernel upgrade, or something else, you think? 

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Re: URGENT - v5.0.0 amd64 (stable): Broadcom 4321AG Wi-Fi adapter not detected

2009-03-13 Thread Dave Patterson
* John Wesley Cooper jwesleycoo...@cox.net [2009-03-12 19:41:34 -0700]:

 I haven't quite gotten it fixed, but I have managed to successfully set up a
 ndiswrapper kernel!  Now all would appear to need is a driver...

I thought I pointed you to a driver that you wouldn't have to install
from a softpac first.  Hence the instruction to download the Dell
driver. It doesn't need to be prior installed by Windows or Wine.

You just move it to a working directory and unzip it, then move to the
resulting DRIVER directory, and ndiswrapper -i  bcmwl5.inf

Like so:

download from here:

http://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R151517.exe

and copy that file into your home directory and do:

unzip R151517.exe

which will decompress the file. If it doesn't work, you need the unzip
utility: apt-get install unzip

after you have that file unpacked, a new directory will have been
created: DRIVER

move into that directory:

cd DRIVER

and as root, do

ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf 

you can see what's in any directory you're in with with the 'ls'
command as so:

d...@gecko:~/Downloads/DRIVER$ ls
bcm43xx64.cat  bcm43xx.cat  bcmwl564.sys  bcmwl5.inf  bcmwl5.sys

Installing wine to get a simple driver to work seems IMHO to bit of
overkill, and the Dell drivers seem to be a bit more complete in my
experience, unless you really need the Compaq/HP stuff (I never have,
but some machines can hiccup).
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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Star Liu minxinjian...@gmail.com [2009-03-09 21:20:59 +0800]:


 i have fixed it, just exe fsck /dev/sda4 and press enters :)
 
Sid's a mess right now...
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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de [2009-03-09 14:50:57 +0100]:

 
  Sid's a mess right now...
 
 And nothing for untrained Debian users IMHO. 

Yup, happens every time a new release goes out.  We try lotsa new stuff,
and it's not quite coordinated.  reportbug gets lots of exercise, and
upstream gets spanked.

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Re: Help! My debian sid cannot boot, A manual fsck must be performed

2009-03-09 Thread Dave Patterson
* Frank Lanitz fr...@frank.uvena.de [2009-03-09 14:58:57 +0100]:

 
 But it's cool to see all the stuff comes in and help testing the packages. 

We do.  When I have time to play, I love to see what can be done with my
favorite stuff.  My road lappy is running Lenny - and is quite happy
with it.  I'll keep it there, for now.  Misery is a borked wifi
connection in a strange hotel.  With business pending.

At home, now, the monster box with all the new hardware is running
pure-dee Sid, and code is playing catch-up at the moment - it's fun.

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Re: running gedit as su brings error

2009-03-02 Thread Dave Patterson
* Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com [2009-03-02 04:02:38 -0500]:

 
 
 Try running it with sux or gksu rather than just plain su; that should
 pass X privileges to any account you switch to
 

Hmm, it seems gksu is being used with Synaptic, but why the error when
calling Gnome's system log monitor?  I get a root password challenge,
and then the application loads with this error. 

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Re: running gedit as su brings error

2009-03-02 Thread Dave Patterson

Also, running Gedit with sudo works fine. 

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running gedit as su brings error

2009-03-01 Thread Dave Patterson
Hello *

Recently I've been getting an error I've not seen before in Gnome: when
I run Gedit from a terminal as su, I get the following:

Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that
you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS
locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/
for information. (Details -  1: Failed to get connection to session: Did
not receive a reply.)

gnome.org explanations relate to redhat, with no guidance for Debian
based systems.

I get the same thing when calling gnome's system log monitor, but not
when I call Synaptic.

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Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?

2009-02-27 Thread Dave Patterson
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 06:35:10PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 01:42:51PM EST, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 
  My C experience began and ended in a one-semester course.
 
 There is such a thing as fundamentals .. fluency in C is one major
 tool in your toolbox.. and one sure way to ensure that nobody messes
 with you on mailing lists.

Depends on the mailing list.  This is 'user', not 'devel' 

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Re: application like iPhoto on Debian GNU/Linux Etch?

2009-02-25 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:58:14PM +, kj wrote:


 I missed the earlier posts in this thread, so excuse my ignorance.  Are  
 you aiming to share one photo repository between thee machines?  In that  
 case Picasa would really be your only option.  Mixing DAM applications  
 on the same data is really only going to cause trouble.


I second that.  I prefer F-Spot on my Linux machines, though.

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Lenny-Sid upgrade causes(?) loss of connectivity

2009-02-25 Thread Dave Patterson

Hey all...

Just got a shiny new cheap laptop, did a Lenny netinstall AMD64.

The thing's an HP dv7 with Turion chipset.

Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express
 Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)

Lenny runs fine, had to bring in a newer kernel and ath9k compiled
from pristine sources to get wifi up - but that is not the issue.

Something in Sid prevents apt from talking to repositories after
upgrade to sid.  Can call up Google with browser from the desktop,
but most links out of Google don't work.

Fedora 10 Live does the same thing.  With the ethernet.

Why, I wonder?

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Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?

2009-02-25 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 01:23:18AM +0800, Nelson Castillo wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Dean Chester
 dean.g.ches...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Fedora can hurt your brain.
 
Try LFS.  Makes your brain seriously sore, but you learn a lot...

The key word is laptop.  I'd try booting the thing with a live disc from
each distro, and see which performs best - use Knoppix for Debian.

Decide from there.  Personally, I've found it much easier to deal with 
oddball machines (laptops) with Debian than with any othe distro
*because* of the mishmash - it's more readily reconfigured.

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Re: Upgrading flashplayer?

2009-02-25 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 10:56:12AM -0800, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote:
 Hi. Im running...well, I guess Sid. Im using testing for my 
 /etc/apt/sources.list file.
 
 A few days ago flashplugin-nonfree went away, or something, and i can no 
 longer get flash to work. I installed flashplayer-mozilla but it doesnt work.
 I looked at the Adobe site and they do have a Linux download for Flash 10, 
 but i thought there has to be a version already packaged.
 
 Is there a way to install the flashplugin-nonfree package from unstable, or 
 something? Or any other way to get flash to work again until testing is
 back in order?
 
I'm using the plugins from debian-multimedia.org

Google debian-multimedia, and enjoy.

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Re: [OT I think] Which Distro?

2009-02-25 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 05:52:32PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2009 17:44:06 Dave Patterson wrote:
  use Knoppix for Debian.
 
 Why?  What's wrong with Debian Live?
 
 http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/
 
 Lisi
 
Oops, I forgot.  I'm getting old :( 

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Re: Copy entire /usr

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Patterson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 08:15:04AM +0200, Raven wrote:
 Hi all.
 I am in a sticky situation. I run remotely a server and one of the disks
 is starting to fail.

Sticky indeed.

 Every couple days (or more, depends on the www traffic level) scsi drive
 sdc fails (with rejecting I/O to device bla bla bla). This a BIG
 problem because my /usr resides on sdc1, and everytime it happens I have
 to send somebody to kill the server and restart it.

You can do this without rebooting, I think.

 
 I figured, since I do not have physical access to the server, that the
 best choice would be copying the whole /usr to another drive and (hoping
 there are no problems while copying) change the required stuff in fstab.
 
 Before starting blindly cp'ing files, I would like to hear your advice
 on the process and if I have any chance of succeeding (or if you have
 another method that would work better)

Example: assume /usr is the only thing on /dev/sdc1,
/dev/sdd1 (or some partition on another disk) has enough space available for
the /usr directory, and is formatted.

Do: ~# mount /dev/sdd1 /mnt
~# mkdir /mnt/usr
~# cp -ax /usr/* /mnt/usr/
~# umount /dev/sdd1

Edit your /etc/fstab to reflect the new location of /usr, i.e.:

/dev/sdc1   /usrext3defaults,nodev 0 2

would now read:

/dev/sdd1   /usrext3defaults,nodev 0 2

Then do: ~# mount -o remount /usr

Then check the transition with:

~# cat /proc/mounts

You should see the new partition mounted at /usr.  Then you can retire your
faulty disc. 

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Re: Copy entire /usr

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Patterson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:05:14AM +0200, François Cerbelle  wrote:
 
 to do the copy, but as your disk will probably fail during the process,
 rsync is a better choice as it can resume the copy.

Good point. 

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Re: Copy entire /usr

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Patterson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 08:36:58AM +0100, Paulo Silva wrote:
 
 You can umount the old /usr and move the new directory to it's place:
 
 # rsync -av /usr/ /newusr/
 # umount /usr
 # rmdir /usr
 # mv /newusr /usr

Or more quickly, after changing /etc/fstab, deleting the /usr mount:

# rsync -av /usr/ /newuser/

next, on one line:

# umount /usr  rmdir /usr  mv /newuser /usr

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Re: Copy entire /usr

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Patterson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:41:30AM +0200, François Cerbelle  wrote:
 
 But this solution SHOULD work IN THEORY !!! I never tried it. someone
 might have a better idea.

I just tried it on a small system here, and it works.  You do need to do the
reboot at the end, however, or init won't point to the right place for /usr.
 

Regards,
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Re: Copy entire /usr

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Patterson
On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 10:30:12AM +0200, François Cerbelle  wrote:
 Le Ven 12 septembre 2008 10:08, Raven a écrit :
 [...]
  It worked!
  Thank you all for your help and especially Francois for providing a very
  fast solution :D
 
 ;-)

;-) 

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Re: [OT] Debian Sig

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 07:01:22PM +0200, giglio robbo' d'acciaio wrote:
 
 Which package contains jp2a?

jp2a 

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Re: BUSY BOX after boot attempt..

2008-09-11 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:28:04AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  
 Care to explain the benefits of UUID as opposed to label?

They're already there, and unique.  Labels tend to range in the more
common ranges,  so can be more readily reproduced.  In terms of removable
devices, more secure.  In the context of mounting partitions on the
permanent hard drive, no difference.

http://etbe.coker.com.au/2008/07/08/label-vs-uuid-vs-device/


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Re: Anyone using ftp.de.debian.org?

2008-09-11 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 08:17:34AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 I generally use ftp.de.debian.org for upgrades to Sid. For the last
 couple of days it has been saying that there are no new unpgrades. I
 therefore tried ftp.uk.debian.org and got 29 packages. Does this just
 mean that the German site has been slow to mirror upgrades or is it
 experiencing problems?
 
I use it, and today upgraded fine, as I did yesterday.  Three days ago had
problems with a bad connection and shifted to the nl.debian.org - but that
was telecom problem.

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Re: BUSY BOX after boot attempt..

2008-09-11 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:04:09AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  
 Ah ok, I thought there was something else. OTOH, the non uniqueness of 
 the labels can be an advantage. Imagine you are using only one device at 
 a time (for whatever reason): you will always have the device mounted in 
 the same place, with only one fstab line.
 

Sure.  I'd want my crypto keys on a unique filesystem though.

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Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-11 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 11:08:40AM +0200, Tim Edwards wrote:
 
 ..., or Australia armed with nuclear powered Kangaroos  
 and sharks with laser beams :) (we could do it you know - don't try and  
 stop us!)

I thought the Kiwis did all the development stuff

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 03:52:38AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 I wonder why your packets have such a longer trip than mine do.  And  
 what's the story with hop #13?

As we say here, TIT (This Is Thailand) - you get weird hops as you cross
borders and such.  Gummint tries to intrude as well, but their main machines
were cracked long ago and never fixed.  I saw a desktop running Win 98
in the immigration offices last week!  One has to be very proactive about
security in these parts...

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:01:38AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 and how come when I do that I only get:

 HOST: debian  Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev

 and zip. My firewall?

 Hugo

More'n likely.  What are you using?

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:17:12AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 Firehol

You may be blocking some outgoing traffic with the wall, which is perfectly
sane, or you may have a permission issue with traceroute or ping that
doesn't allow a non-administrator to get results from mtr.

Again, that would be perfectly sane.

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 05:36:44PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 What's this?

 guessing australia - us undersea cable

 I'm surprised that Google doesn't have a data center there in Oz.

 Anyway, the solution is obvious: move to the US!

Hah!

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 09:57:39AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
 
 :)  I am allergic to guns, plus I love it down under

That won't be the last time an American suggests that a solution is to be an
American, I'll wager..  but that's okay, we'll just route around them until
they grow up...

http://news.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/08/30/1413243

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Re: BUSY BOX after boot attempt..

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:23:55PM -0400, abel wrote:
 
 Hope the attached file helps. Commentary is appreciated, even expected ;-)
 

Another method that can be more robust in a security context is to mount the
partition with the filesystem's UUID as a specifier, instead of the label.

This is particularly helpful when setting up automounting of specific
removable filesystems, say a boot partition on usbstick.

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:41:13AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 Guns?  There's no law mandating you must own a gun in the US. Although, 
 visions of Angelina Jolie packing heat are quite interesting...

Indeed.

 No, I take that back.  Kennesaw, Georgia and Geuda Springs, Kansas  
 mandate that all households (with certain exceptions) maintain firearms 
 and ammunition.

Don't the Swiss do the same thing?  I seem to remember an article
somewhere...  something to do with national defense...

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Re: [OT] was Re: diff display

2008-09-10 Thread Dave Patterson
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:52:47AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

 There was a time when he commanded a huge army...

Not just (a) huge army, but LOTS of huge armies.  He commanded kings. 

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-09 Thread Dave Patterson
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 04:26:07AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 My Internet access has been getting slower and slower and my ISP is a joke:
 
 $ ping google.com
 PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243
 time=180 ms
 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=243
 time=185 ms
 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=3 ttl=243
 time=191 ms
 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=4 ttl=243
 time=182 ms
 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=5 ttl=243
 time=189 ms
 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=6 ttl=243
 time=189 ms
 
 See also this mtr output: http://pastebin.com/m36bd850f
 
 Are there any known problems / gotchas with OpenDNS? I do know that
 they redirect google queries through their own servers and return ads
 in place of unregistered domains, but those 'features' can be turned
 off. Anything else that I should be aware of?
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
Erm, your connection's a LOT quicker than mine.

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Re: Way OT: OpenDNS

2008-09-09 Thread Dave Patterson
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:12:15PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On 09/09/08 20:47, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Wed,10.Sep.08, 04:26:07, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 My Internet access has been getting slower and slower and my ISP is a joke:

 $ ping google.com
 PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=243
 time=180 ms
  What seems to be the problem here?

 It's 1/3 slower than my 12Mbps cable modem connection.

Heck, I envy him:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mtr -c30 --report -n www.google.com
HOST: davescrunch Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. 192.168.1.1   0.0%301.0   0.9   0.8   1.3   0.1
  2. 124.122.205.1 0.0%30   20.0  19.5  18.7  20.3   0.4
  3. 210.86.189.53 0.0%30   19.4  19.4  18.9  20.0   0.3
  4. 10.169.53.1   0.0%30   21.9  22.5  21.2  27.8   1.2
  5. 61.90.132.86  0.0%30   21.4  23.6  20.6  82.3  11.1
  6. 61.90.133.237 0.0%30   21.4  24.1  20.2 106.2  15.5
  7. 61.90.254.89  0.0%30   20.9  20.6  19.8  21.3   0.4
  8. 203.144.144.270.0%30   20.4  20.4  19.6  21.4   0.5
  9. 61.91.210.1   0.0%30   21.0  26.5  20.3 113.7  20.4
 10. 61.19.10.25   0.0%30   20.3  21.0  20.0  21.8   0.4
 11. 202.47.253.1460.0%30   20.9  21.1  20.3  21.9   0.4
 12. 61.19.9.2 0.0%30   35.5  40.3  34.6  75.0  10.7
 13. 72.14.196.217 0.0%30  135.9 136.3 135.3 137.2   0.4
 14. 209.85.254.1660.0%30  136.0 139.8 135.3 213.3  14.6
 15. 209.85.241.2210.0%30  135.9 137.9 134.7 208.1  13.3
 16. 209.85.250.1010.0%30  136.4 137.2 135.6 151.3   3.2
 17. 209.85.252.65 3.3%30  146.3 141.5 136.3 149.4   4.4
 18. 209.85.175.99 3.3%30  136.8 136.7 136.1 137.5   0.4

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Re: Clamav-deamon Bug

2007-05-19 Thread Dave Patterson
* David Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-19 22:51:26 +0300]:

 Known and submitted bug. Recently started happening on my box:
 On bootup, the daemon fails to start.
 A little later on I can manually run the /etc/init.d/clamav-daeamon start and 
 it does work.
 
 Is there a proper work around for now?
 

Not really.  The only way I could get it to start at boot was to
configure using dpkg-reconfigure clamav-base and set it to run as root.

Ugly, Ugly...

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the mysql postgresql question.

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Patterson

Hi all - is it possible to go with one database system for all package
dependencies?

Package foo depends on mysql for install,

Package bar allows postgresql or mysql but requires one or the other.

Package umpty-scratch prefers postgresql.

Is it necessary to have both
database systems installed in order to have foo,bar, and umptyscratch;

Or can I pipe a dependancy somehow?

Cluebricks welcome.

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Re: the mysql postgresql question.

2007-04-25 Thread Dave Patterson
* Bob McGowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-25 11:19:05 -0700]:

 But if you want/require PostgreSQL for those two, you'll still need 
 mysql for the first.

As I suspected, alas.

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Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-08 Thread Dave Patterson
Michael Pobega wrote:
 
 As for the newbie documentation, we should definitely get something 
 together. Everyone who is interested email me at my personal emailing 
 just to say Aie!. Drop me an AIM/MSN/Jabber contact so I can reach you 
 beyond email if possible.
 
I'm in.

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2007-02-08 Thread Dave Patterson
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

  Now if
 only we could get people to spell, as well. 
 

Whut? Spel?  Keeboords is hard ennuf!

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Re: Attracting newbies (Was Booting Debian/testing fails)

2007-02-06 Thread Dave Patterson
Michael Pobega wrote:
 I don't mind not getting geek creds.
 

C'mon, Mutt's fun!

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Re: Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-29 Thread Dave Patterson
yea, verily, Angelo Bertolli sayith:
   
 No, I mean a non-free firefox package in addition to iceweasel.  I know
 it sounds redundant, but I bet someone will start doing it eventually
 since all it takes is using Mozilla's Linux binary and putting it in deb
 format.

I've done this already for two clients, to sooth ruffled feathers - it's
not difficult at all (or I wouldn't have done :P). Perhaps something
along the lines of java-package?

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Re: Re: Debian, Iceweasle, Firefox!

2007-01-28 Thread Dave Patterson
yea, verily, Paul Johnson sayith:
 
..trivial changes to the name and artwork
 makes it free?
 
It's still a fork. The differences will grow.


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Re: where is the bash documentation in info format ?

2007-01-19 Thread Dave Patterson
yea, verily, John Hasler sayith:
 
 Well, Debian silently includes the non-free archive in the default
 apt-sources so that new users can easily install non-free software without
 realizing that it is non-free.

Really?  That was an option on the last install I did - etch
businesscard - but the default was main.

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Re: SMTP server

2007-01-17 Thread Dave Patterson
on Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 12:11:22AM + Clive Menzies mumbled:
 
 In short, I share Greg's enthusiasm for exim4
 
I have a fondness for exim4 as well, but now I'm playing with SELinux
in Debian, and exim4 does not want to play nice there.  Postfix has
been a pleasant surprise to me in it's flexibility, though it's been a
learning curve.

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Re: Linux Drivers, The Kernel, and a Driver List

2007-01-13 Thread Dave Patterson
on Sat, Jan 13, 2007 at 05:46:04PM -0500 Grok Mogger mumbled:
 
 This sounds like if I know for a fact that the device I'm 
 interested in uses Chipset Awesome 100c, then I could start 
 grep'ing through the kernel source for parts and permutations of 
 the chipset name hoping to find some matches that indicate that 
 there's a driver for it.
 
 Is that accurate?
 
Yes... and no. F'rinstance my spankin' new Toshiba P105 awesome
whiz-bang laptop took a little doing -- dual core intel on a 32 bit
bus with 64 bit addressable audio memory, intel High def sound,
ipw3964 wireless AND a fingerprint reading biometric device - all in
one sock.  Running a custom kernel - 2.6.20rc4, that's been patched a
little to get everything working well.

In this case, I looked around at what was available at Linux Kernel
Archives and did a little picking and choosing there, along with
googling for directions that developers are taking.  When buying
hardware, it's a good idea to leave hardware alone that the developers
aren't interested in.  Patience will win the day, here.  Don't run out
and buy snake oil.

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Re: USB memory stick and flashcard mount failure

2007-01-13 Thread Dave Patterson
on Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 06:47:41AM -0800 Herb Howe mumbled:
 I'm having problems mounting either a memory stick or a flashcard using
 Debian, kernel 2.6.8.
 
 Here's the setup:
 
 Line from lsusb with usb memory stick inserted:
 Bus 004 Device 002: ID 08ec:0008 M-Systems Flash Disk Pioneers
 
 Line in fstab:
 /dev/sda1 /mnt/memstick vfat user,noauto,rw 0 0
 
 Mount command:
 mount /mnt/memstick
 
 Error message from mount command:
 wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, missing codepage
 or other error
 
 Output from dmesg | tail
 Buffer I/O error on device sda1, ...  (several such messages)
 FAT: invalid media value (0xb9)
 VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1.
 
 This occurs with both a Memorex Traveldrive and a Compact Flashcard in a
 Flashcard-to-USB adapter. Both devices work fine with Windows XP which
 also verifies that a FAT filesystem is on these devices.
 
 The only advice I've found online is to reformat the USB devices. But
 these are devices from other people that I cannot reformat.
 
 Is there something I can add to the fstab line or the mount command to
 recognize the vfat file system on the USB devices?
 
The problem with the TravelDrive is the proprietary format Memorex
uses for their idiot software. They've basically built a little static
filesystem within a filesystem there that behaves like a live CD when
it loads on a windows box - this is marketing bs for selling
proprietary software.

You might try mountint that little portion of the drive first to get
it accounted for, then mounting the data portion in another location.

I bought two of the damn things without realizing, and played hell for
awhile until I found this out.  But they were mine, so I zero'd 'em
and slapped ext2 on.  Great ever since.

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kde, guarddog, and hotel wifi...

2006-07-22 Thread Dave Patterson
In this hotel, using the Guarddog firewall tool on KDE, I can't perform
Browser login to hotel wireless until I've turned the firewall off.  Once
I've authenticated the login I can turn the firewall back on and things
operate normally.  How can I tell which port to open?


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Re: kde, guarddog, and hotel wifi...

2006-07-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-22 09:31:38 -0700]:

 Dave Patterson wrote:
 In this hotel, using the Guarddog firewall tool on KDE, I can't perform
 Browser login to hotel wireless until I've turned the firewall off.  Once
 I've authenticated the login I can turn the firewall back on and things
 operate normally.  How can I tell which port to open?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Dave.
 
 /var/log/messages should show you firewall hits.  The entries are a bit 
 cryptic, but you'll see descriptions of inbound and outbound rejected 
 packets, including their IP addresses, ports, protocols, etc.
 
Ah.  Gottit.  Thanks.

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Re: setting up partition before cryptsetup

2006-07-20 Thread Dave Patterson
* Dave Patterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-19 21:31:19 +0700]:

 
 A how-to here:
 
 http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1074
 
Has been changed to:

http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1116


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Re: setting up partition before cryptsetup

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Patterson
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-19 12:02:42 -]:

 Do I need to make an extra, unused partition when I install Debian on
 a new computer, before I try to use cryptsetup to add an encrypted
 filesystem?
 
It depends on how you want to do this.  If you want a completely encrypted
filesystem with swap, yes.

A how-to here:

http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1074

This one takes GRUB completely off the hard drive, and you boot Debian with
a USB key.  Modify it according to your tastes.

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Re: Iptables and kernel 2.6.17 phelp needed

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Patterson
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-19 22:54:31 +0800]:

 
 As I recall, this broke for me in going from 2.6.15 to 2.6.16.
 
 Clayton
 
Yup, it did - my solution was to install a stock kernel, and used it's
.config as the basis for my custom kernel's config, then remove the stock
kernel.  It saved a little heartache looking through the new directory
structure, and was faster, too.

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Re: setting up partition before cryptsetup

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Patterson
* Digby Tarvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-19 15:58:19 +0100]:

 
 In my opinion it is more secure to keep confidential data in a
 dedicated encrypted partition which is only initialised and mounted
 when really needed. If you are really paranoid, you can remove your
 network connection whenever the secred data is mounted.
 
 If you have the entire system encrypted and mount everything at boot,
 then your data is only safe with the computer is turned off. A hacker
 who gains root has everything...

The flipside to that is the cracker that searches journals on journalled
filesystems for sensitive data (keys for encrypted partitions, even the
sensitive document itself).

A healthy dose of paranoia is in order here.  Look at how you plan to
manage your encrypted data.

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Re: USB Key Drive

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Patterson
* Patrick Ester [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-19 19:11:10 -0400]:


 I find that I am alone in this problem.  Does anybody have any
 suggestions?  Do you need some more information?
 
 
Open a terminal and run (as root):

tail -f /var/log/messages

Insert and extract the key.  You should see something being registered in
that message log (you can exit tail by pressing ctrl-c).

Check the format of the usb key.  It can't be mounted if it's not
formatted. (FAT and FAT32 will work fine).

Check that the normal user is part of the plugdev group for pmount to work.

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Re: Shutdown my Laptop? Why should I?

2006-07-13 Thread Dave Patterson
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-12 16:54:21 -0500]:

 
 I use a 12 piece of 2x4 wood to prop up the rear of my never-moves,
 always-on work laptop.  That gives room to circulate air underneath,
 and the fan hardly ever comes on.  Once or twice a week for a a few
 minutes.
 
I've done the same here, because of the high ambient heat in Bangkok.
Built a little rack to set the slab on, and heat problems went away.

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Re: Why not?

2006-07-13 Thread Dave Patterson
* Cybe R. Wizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-12 17:50:02 -0500]:

 
 I'm with Steve here; why should I care about GTK vs. Qt when an app
 'Just Works' for me?  I switch about with impunity based on what I like.
 
Me three. 

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Re: Orinoco Silver wireless works w/2.6.15 but not 2.6.17

2006-07-13 Thread Dave Patterson
Modprobe should do the trick...
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Re: Orinoco Silver wireless works w/2.6.15 but not 2.6.17

2006-07-13 Thread Dave Patterson
* Paul Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-12 16:01:39 -0700]:

 Any ideas why I can't get an Orinoco Silver card:
 
 Lucent Technologies  WaveLAN/IEEE Version 01.01
 manfid 0x0156, 0x0002
 
 works with a stock 2.6.15 kernel but not with a 2.6.17?
 
 Something to do with device names and udev?
 
Using madwifi, I had to reboot to register all modules.

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Re: system heavy load

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Patterson
* Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-11 21:34:53 -0400]:

 
 I would start simpler than that.  Make sure that DMA is enabled on your
 hard drive(s).
 
It is:

# hdparm /dev/hda

/dev/hda:
multcount=  0 (off)
IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq=  0 (off)
using_dma=  1 (on)
keepsettings =  0 (off)
readonly =  0 (off)
readahead= 256 (on)
geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 195371568, start = 0

And still, occaisionally I see the same style system loading as the
original poster mentioned.  I've been curious about this for a while.

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Re: encrypted filesystem that can be mounted remotely?

2006-07-12 Thread Dave Patterson
* Anonymous [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-11 17:00:56 -]:

 I'd like to keep some of the data on my computer's hard drive
 encrypted, but not necessarily all of it. But I also need to be able
 to reboot the computer remotely and log into by SSH without the
 encrypted FS mounted, then mount the encrypted partition in the SSH
 session (from a trusted machine, of course) presumably by giving a
 sort of mount command and entering the passphrase.
 
 I've never used an encrypted FS before. Is what I want possible? What
 encrypted FS supports this?
 
Look at cryptsetup and device-mapper.

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Re: Why?

2006-07-11 Thread Dave Patterson
* John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-11 13:29:35 -0500]:


 The reason is that there is no reason to change.  One or the other has to
 be the default: should we toss a coin?

Maybe battlebots to the death...

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Re: system heavy load

2006-07-11 Thread Dave Patterson
* Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-07-11 18:01:24 -0400]:

 
 Top is quite reliable.  The load average represents how many processes
 are ready to run.  If everything is trying to access the disk, your CPU
 utilization will be low (at least less than 100%) and yet you will have
 a high load average since many processes will be stuck waiting for the disk.
 


Would it improve performance in this case to run a kernel with a different
preemption model, or would it make more sense to try different i/o
schedulers (anticipatory, deadline, or cfq) ?

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Re: E-mail Failing in weird ways

2006-06-26 Thread Dave Patterson
* Mike McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-26 09:05:42 -0500]:


 
 Yeah, I shoulda mentioned that those had both been checked. I've sent
 her an e-mail asking for what (if any) error messages she gets, but
 I'm going to give her a phone call, as well.
 
Is she on a dialup?  If so, have her check the output of ifconfig (as
root).  Check the value of MTU in the ppp connection.  You may have to
reduce to a value less than 600 in /etc/ppp/options:

mru 552
mtu 552

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Re: multiple identities with mutt

2006-06-25 Thread Dave Patterson
* Steve Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-25 17:01:43 -0700]:
 
  Besides, the answer isn't always write one.

Excellent point.  However, sometimes it is.  So there.

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Re: Replying to list

2006-06-24 Thread Dave Patterson
* Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-24 05:00:28 -0500]:

 
 What problem do you see with Tbird?

Nothing, really, for quick basic setup, it's terrific, and using imap mailboxes
does indeed let you switch between mua's at will..

Tbird out of the box, though, does not let me sort mailboxes the way I want
them sorted (emphasis on the 'I' here), and I'm enough of an individual to
demand my own idiosyncratic way of doing things.  Hence 'to each his own'.

There are certain things I do in Mutt with the keyboard that I simply did
not want to relearn with Tbird (I must be getting old).  Mutt is much
faster for me.

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Re: Replying to list

2006-06-23 Thread Dave Patterson
* Andrew Sackville-West [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-23 13:13:50 -0700]:

 On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 01:30:49PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
  Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
  

 yes. bring on the brick-bats!
 
Hear, here.

I've used Mutt/Getmail/Exim/Procmail for a long time.  Tried T-bird about
two months ago,  freaked out and scurried back to Mutt.  T-bird just
wouldn't do what I wanted it to do.  To each his own, I guess...

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Re: multiple identities with mutt (was: Replying to list)

2006-06-23 Thread Dave Patterson
* s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-24 01:35:42 +]:
 
 For Steve Lamb?  Essentially the moon.

Heh,heh... 

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Re: Installing on usb thumb drive,

2006-06-22 Thread Dave Patterson
* Chuck Payne [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-22 02:28:31 -0400]:

 Hey,
 
 Can some one tell me how to get grub to install only on the usb 
 thumbdrive? I tried to install and over wrote my other os installer. 
 Debain see my thumb drive sba2
 
Most thumb drives are sda, sdb, sdc, etc.

If that's the case with you,

grub-install --recheck /dev/sda

which writes to the MBR of the thumb drive.

what are you trying to do?  Dual-boot from thumb drive?

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Re: debian testing netinstall via pppoe?

2006-06-19 Thread Dave Patterson
* Urs Thuermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-18 09:17:29 +0200]:

 Is it possible to use the etch netinstall CD to install a debian
 testing system via pppoe?  I have tried but didn't succeed.  The
 installer only lets me choose between the two ethernet network cards
 and then asks me for IP configuration for the selected NIC.  But I'd
 need to configure ppp parameters, i.e. username and password for my
 provider.
 
 urs
 
 
This works for the testing distribution, not sure about Sarge:

Using the netinstall ISO (not the businesscard), do a normal installation,
leaving the network unconfigured.  This will be a base install only, but
the package pppoeconf is on that cd.  Once you have the base install in,
simply apt-get install pppoeconf, and use that to get your connection
going.  From there, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, and install whatever
else you need from there.

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Re: Google Earth display problem

2006-06-17 Thread Dave Patterson
* Jan Willem Stumpel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-17 11:55:35 +0200]:

I'm using a Radeon 9200 SE with the Linux (open-source) DRI
 drivers (have to, because ATI does not seem to have a
 proprietary driver for xorg 7.0).
 
Try the proprietary ATI Driver.  They claim it builds packages for xorg 7.0
if you build packages for Debian Sid from their installer.  You have dri,
but only 2D.  Sadly, ATI has been rather brutish of late as to which chips
their stuff really does support (they lie), so imho it might be best to dump it 
for an nvidia card. 

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Re: upgrading x11-common_7.0.22

2006-06-16 Thread Dave Patterson
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-17 07:00:54 +0300]:


  trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package xgl

apt-get remove --purge xgl
apt-get dist-upgrade
apt-get install xgl

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Re: Strange cdrw behavior

2006-06-15 Thread Dave Patterson

Erm, The drive was toast.  Apt-get install new drive fixed the problem.
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Re: price of the 3 debian cds much more expensive than what it is told on the website

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* bruno doutriaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 09:18:34 +0200]:

 what is the gui of debian sarge ?
 (graphical user interface)
 
What do you want? You can have Gnome, KDE, Xfce, Enlightenment, Fluxbox,
Blackbox (to name a few), all of the preceding or none.  By default, if
'desktop environment' is chosen during an install, BOTH KDE and Gnome are
installed, going to a Gnome boot first time around.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Charles Hallenbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 05:42:43 -0400]:

Try:
apt-get remove --purge X11-common
apt-get dist-upgrade


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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
Ok, it looks like x11-common can't do anything because somethings hosed
with debconf.
Try apt-get -f install debconf, or dpkg-reconfigure debconf, and see what
happens there.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Simone Soldateschi [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 12:36:47 +0200]:


 A debian user suggested me to fix the problem using synaptic and filtering
 defective packages..  it did the job.

Sorry.  Here, he can't do that because he isn't even running X, only some
components of it are needed for his console.  So Synaptic won't work in
this situation.

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Charles Hallenbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 06:50:32 -0400]:

 
 
 Do I dare try to remove debconf? I better do a backup first, this is 
 getting serious smile

'Eek!' said I, and yes, do a backup.

Then, yank it out.

Then, pull debconf from the testing
repository manually and install with dpkg -i (full packagename.deb) from the
directory you put it in. 

Or, do this: add the testing repository to you /etc/apt/sources.list

apt-get update

apt-get remove --purge debconf

apt-get -t testing install debconf

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Joris Huizer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 13:58:57 +0200]:

 one more note, in case you have aptitude installed, you may try using 
 that, too, as it is known to be handle conflicts and brakage slightly 
 different from apt-get; The interactive interface can show what is 
 broken and such

Good idea - aptitude's installed by default in most systems...

My wife's calling...

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Charles Hallenbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 07:43:57 -0400]:

 
 Yeah, but I can't yank it out! It is not fully installed, and nothing in 
 my arsenal can yank it out.

Ok,then:
Look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/debconf.postinst
and see what's in that file-perhaps we can hack a fix from there.  The
postinstall script is what messed it up, and it's a hard hang.

Once we get that sorted out, we'll file a bug report with the maintainer,
but s/he has to know what the problem is...

 I think I will rummage around some more before pulling 
 the plug.
 
I like rummaging.  I sometimes find pretty girls and free beer that way...
remember, it's only a bug, not a system-wide disaster.
 
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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 12:21:32 -0400]:

:
 
 set -e
 
 Then re-run this apt-get -f install and we should be able to figure out
 what's really wrong.
 
This will tell you where in the script it's exiting...

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Re: apt-get broken, packages not fully installed or removed (solved?)

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
* Charles Hallenbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-14 14:51:22 -0400]:

 The strange problem of the not fully installed or removed packages I 
 have been reporting has been resolved...

Hooray!

 
 It seems that a short while ago I have switched shells from bash to zsh 
 to explore its new features. I did it gradually, first doing a usermod 
 for each of my accounts to make /bin/zsh the login shell, then after 
 hammering out an agreeable configuration, changing the symbolic link 
 /bin/sh to point to /bin/zsh instead of /bin/bash. 
 
 After looking at those files in /var/lib/dpkg/info mentioned by Dave and 
 Joey, I changed the link to point to /bin/bash again, re-ran apt-get -f 
 install successfully, then ran apt-get upgrade also successfully, and I 
 have a resolved system.
 
 But why? I do upgrades at least once a day, and they usually went 
 without a hitch using zsh. But evidently this was somehow the cause of 
 the current problem.
 
Hmm...

 It's a little vague to report it as a zsh bug just yet, I think.

Agreed. I think it's more of a problem with APT.  It should call bash if it
wants to use it.


 So what do I do? give up zsh? 
 
Nah. Figure out how to make APT point to BASH and file the bug there.  Be
interesting to see what the APT people have to say.

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Strange cdrw behavior

2006-06-14 Thread Dave Patterson
SID laptop:

Running KDE on a HP Compaq nx7010 with a TEAC DW-244E-A DVDR/CDRW Drive.
I get this error during boot:

Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: hdc: packet command error:
status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: hdc: packet command error:
error=0x34 { AbortedCommand LastFailedSense=0x03 }
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: ide: failed opcode was: unknown
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel: ATAPI device hdc:
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel:   Error: Medium error -- (Sense
key=0x03)
Jun 15 10:13:17 davescrunch kernel:   (reserved error code) --
(asc=0x57, ascq=0x00)

On an empty drive.  The drive light constantly flashes, and opening and
reclosing the drive (empty) results in hal calling it a blank cd.  How
do I get hal to stop this strange stuff?  Same behavior with Gnome.
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