Re: test
Dne 5.10.2011 14:59, piše Richard: Hi My ISP had problems yesterday and some this morning, I've sent a couple of posts but I'm not seeing them. If this does get through, can someone answer please Thanks Hi, it got through. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e8c54c8.7060...@gmail.com
Re: openjdk-7-jre and Iceweasel
Dne 29.9.2011 17:54, piše Lisi: I am trying, without success, to run: http://media.pearsoncmg.com/aw/aw_kurose_network_2/applets/dns/dns.html The problem is the applet. The Java I have on my Lenny system is too old. Hardly surprising. So I switched to Wheezy. Still not OK. I checked: I only had openjdk-6-jre. So I installed openjdk-7-jre and its dependencies. Still no joy. I imagine that iceweasel is not using it at all, or not in the way that jre 7 needs. What can I do to run this applet? This is a course in OSS, so it shouldn't require anything proprietary. Thanks Lisi Hi, I am not sure this works with openjdk-7 but try to install icedtea-plugin. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e8496eb.2010...@gmail.com
Re: No iceweasel support for google+
Dne 23.9.2011 14:22, piše francis picabia: On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:09 PM, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: Works fine for me with Iceweasel 6.0.2 on Squeeze Where was this package from? I have 3.5.16 in squeeze with no testing/unstable, only squeeze main non-free contrib. In comment from Bob perhaps I should install the browser from outside of Debian. I have for Thunderbird. With Thunderbird it maintains itself. I think it is the same with seamonkey on Windows. --francis Hi, go to http://mozilla.debian.net/ and follow instructions. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e7c7b51.4070...@gmail.com
Re: sources.list directory specification
Dne 02. 09. 2011 07:19, piše Scott Ferguson: On 02/09/11 03:06, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM,rlhar...@hal-pc.org wrote: I am trying to compose a sources.list file for each of three machines; one is for Lenny (oldstable), one is for Squeeze (stable), and one is for Wheezy (testing). According to Index of /pub/debian/dists at http://ftp.pl.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/ , for Squeeze there are three directories, namely: � �= squeeze � �= squeeze-updates � �= squeeze-proposed-updates Likewise, for Lenny there are two directories, namely: � �= lenny � �= lenny-proposed-updates And for Wheezy, there are two directories, namely: � �= wheezy � �= wheezy-proposed-updates However, the Debian Sources List Generator (http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/) and numerous sources.list examples posted on the web by various individuals use the form: � �= lenny/updates � �= squeeze/updates � �= wheezy/updates rather than: � �= lenny-updates � �= squeeze-updates � �= wheezy-updates Which form is correct? is it permissible to use either form? �may the forms be mixed within a single sources.list file? Yes - though you might consider reading up on pinning. LENNY deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny main contrib non-free deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny-proposed-updates main contrib non-free SQUEEZE deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free # deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates main contrib non-free WHEEZY s/squeeze/wheezy/g release/updates is meant for security updates. release-updates is a Squeeze/Wheezy replacement of Lenny's lenny/volatile. release-proposed-updates is meant for testing packages before they're released. 1++ I'd echo Tom's suggestions. NOTE: http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ doesn't appear to be an official Debian site, strangely it's located in China, registered in Switzerland, by a German (!) I'd be cautious about enabling backports, proposed, and, especially, multimedia - except on a case-by-case basis (enable when needed, install only what cannot be got from the standard repo, disable when done). Cheers Hi, well I've been using the backports and proposeds for awhile now and everything works perfectly, besides Debian Backports are official part of Debian as far as I know, so there is at least some QA involved, I think. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e60a3c9.8010...@gmail.com
Re: sources.list directory specification
Dne 2.9.2011 14:18, piše Scott Ferguson: On 02/09/11 19:37, Dejan Ribič wrote: Dne 02. 09. 2011 07:19, piše Scott Ferguson: On 02/09/11 03:06, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM,rlhar...@hal-pc.org wrote: snipped I'd be cautious about enabling backports, proposed, and, especially, multimedia - except on a case-by-case basis (enable when needed, install only what cannot be got from the standard repo, disable when done). Cheers Hi, well I've been using the backports and proposeds for awhile now and everything works perfectly, besides Debian Backports are official part of Debian as far as I know, so there is at least some QA involved, I think. Cheers, Dejan Please don't be offended, it's not a criticism of your choices, or implying that those (backports and proposed) repositories are full of flakey packages. Multimedia is not flakey either *but* it will cause problems unless you are careful. Backports are (often) rebuilt to use libraries they were not designed for (they are a compromise)[*1], Proposed is just that (in *testing* for the point release). Most of the time you won't have problems, and if you do, it'll usually be with backports. Backports *is* an official repository - as are all repositories hosted by Debian - but QA testing on backport packages is limited (and backports are there for convenience, not as proposed fixes for problems), whereas proposed QA is wider (but still requires your testing before being eligible for point release). Enabling those repositories on a constant basis means you have no idea what will come down if you go:- # apt-get update; apt-get upgrade (or dist-upgrade) This can make live interesting, but it robs you of the control you exercise when you enable selectively eg. I want the latest version of Amarok because it has x, but everything else is to my satisfaction. If you always enable proposed, and backports, and, have never had any issues, then maybe you've not been running them for many years. My experiences may just be a KDE4/qt/dbus/grub thing. You may also be using the context of a hobby desktop, not a production environment where any minor conflict can be considered a major issue (people file service requests instead of working etc). I'll stick to enable when needed as I don't believe enable just in case I need it is a good idea in the long term, and I'm interested in the long term :-) Cheers [*1]It is recommended to select single backports which fit your needs, and not to use all available backports. http://backports-master.debian.org/ [*2]..., packages in stable-proposed-updates aren't yet officially part of Debian Stable and one should not assume is has the same quality and stability (yet!). Those new versions of the packages needs to be reviewed (by the stable release manager) and tested (by some users) before entering stable. http://wiki.debian.org/StableProposedUpdates NOTE: stable is not the only branch that receives updates Hi, You are right in that I have a limited experience with backports, for instance I've never used KDE4/Qt( well except QtOctave, but thats not even in backports). On another note I do have a Debian server with Squeeze installed and on that machine I use neither, which also stores my monthly(/home/ backed up weekly) CloneZilla images of the desktop PC, so maybe that is why I use backports/proposed freely, because I know that if I mess up something I can simply restore it with minimal loss of time or data. My point is I agree with you, if you are using production machine and you can't afford that some simple package like for instance Amarok breaks it then it is best to enable when needed. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e60e639.6060...@gmail.com
Re: how to add exec permission to other users
Dne 17.8.2011 13:58, piše Long Wind: I have a program It can be run by root only I want to add exec permission to other users so they can run it too how to use chmod? Hi, to answer your question: /sudo chmod a+x filename/ For further details use /man chmod/. Cheers, Dejan
Re: 2TB file system
Dne 17.8.2011 15:27, piše lina: What's the best choice of the portable hard drive. reliable. 1TB. There are many brands, I don't know which one is reliable. I once tried the hitachi. Thanks, On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 8:31 PM, Roger Leighrle...@codelibre.net wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 09:51:44PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Rick Pasottor...@niof.net wrote: I recently acquired a 2TB SATA HD that I have not yet installed. It will be used entirely to store media files. Would there be any problems in formating the entire disk (no partitions) as an EXT4 file system? Any other considerations? These days, though with current motherboards and SATA controllers, current releases of Debian with 2.6 kernels,ext4, and 64-bit operating system? Goddess only knows how large of a disk you can manage. Try it with your system and let us know! It should always work in some form, though you might need to restrict its size with a jumper or force 512 byte sectors if you see problems. One odd problem I came across when I installed a pair of WD20EARS 2.0GB discs is that while they are 4KiB sector drives, they tell the opearating system that their native sector size is 512B, i.e. they lie. Who knows why?--presumably so it's backward compatible or something, but it does mean when partitioning you need to manually partition on 4KiB boundaries or else you'll suffer from poor performance. Hopefully in the future they will tell the truth so that all the tools just work. I worked around this by partitioning using GPT and telling the tool (parted IIRC) to use units of 4KiB to ensure correct partition alignment. It's all working nicely so far with LVM and/or Btrfs on top. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk5LtIcACgkQVcFcaSW/uEheRACfYUUxYX+agDHit8CazIkrNbUX cS4An1UC4RKJ3PR/bBmOlh1e/S3uxJWz =A1Wr -END PGP SIGNATURE- Hi, I recommend using Western Digital, I have those drives in all of my pc's have one 80 GB and that one is from the days when 80 GB drives, where the most that you could get, and its still working great. BTW: Didn't Hitachi used to be IBM? I am just asking because I didn't have the best experience with IBM drives, had two of them and they both broke within 18 months(lucky for me I had quaranty for them :D ). Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e4bcdef.8020...@gmail.com
Icedove 5.0 in mozilla.debian.net repo. Was: Icedove 5.0 - when?
Hi, I don't know for how long, but I just checked and discovered today that there is a similar directory for Icedove that it is for iceweasel on http://mozilla.debian.net/ called icedove-release. So if you already have iceweasel-release in your sources.list you just have to add icedove-release on the end of the line to get the new icedove, so the line will look like this: /deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release icedove-release /If you don't have mozilla.debian repo in yet, just follow instructions on http://mozilla.debian.net/ Cheers, Dejan
Re: Wheezy kernel bug
Dne 12.8.2011 15:57, piše Tony Gallagher: Hi, This is my first time reporting a bug, so bear with me. I installed Debian Squeeze and performed a dist-upgrade once. From there, I changed my sources.list to point at Wheezy and have regularly performed a dist-upgrade. Everything is reasonably stable, with the exception of the kernel. My laptop contains an Intel Express 4 Mobile chipset, and every kernel from 2.6.38 onwards leads to a black screen during booting, and no way to get a console to diagnose the problem. Kernel 2.6.35 boots without problems. I've seen the same issue on Ubuntu and Linux Mint, though not on the 32-bit edition of Linux Mint, so it is probably a kernel issue on 64-bit systems, though I have not discounted the possibility of the Intel driver being the source of the problem. Regards, Tony Gallagher Hi, have you also reported this bug using ReportBug in Debian? Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e45360e.9060...@gmail.com
Re: jigdo-bd
Dne 12.8.2011 21:26, piše Paul E Condon: I am looking into downloading some iso images of squeeze. I have not done this in quite a while and I see that things have changed a lot while I wasn't looking. I think I need jigdo-cd. But what is jigdo-bd? Under what conditions is it the proper choice? bd must be mnemonic for something, but I don't make the connection the way I do for cd. TIA Hi, bd stands for Bluray-Disc. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e458257.9090...@gmail.com
Re: Unable to create either bootable USB flashdrive or CD/DVDrom
Dne 9.8.2011 22:14, piše Christian Jaeger: Hello This is not the first time I'm struggling trying to make a bootable USB flashdrive. In fact, I've spent like 5-10 hours across various times already, and I realize that I've been too stupid to document my last endeavours enough to help me to get it to work this time (or maybe I did and just something has changed with recent images?). This is the first time though that I find myself even unable to create a bootable CD or DVDrom. I've burned these and none of them boot on my ThinkPad T61: - MythBuntu to a DVD-R - XMBC live CD to a DVD-R - MythBunto to a CD-R - Squeeze netinst to a DVD-R The first three fail with either just the screen going black and rebooting in an endless cycle or, in the case of XMBC (with 'quiet' option removed in the boot menu) showing Kernel panic - not synching: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(1,0). I then tried the debian-6.0.2.1-ia64-netinst.iso image on a DVD-R, (wodim debian-6.0.2.1-ia64-netinst.iso), in this case wodim told me wodim: Cannot fixate disk at the end, but I can mount the disc and tar its contents without a single error, so I'd say the disc is fine? But when booting from it, the screen shows two random characters (otherwise empty) and then it's frozen (except for the cursor in the top left corner still blinking, but that's maybe handled by the HW or the bios). The laptop *does* boot from a XubunTOS-1.0 CDrom I burned years ago, though. So I tried the next step (using unetbootin 549-1, recompiled from testing on squeeze some time ago--I did this because the version in Squeeze wouldn't work for me back then, the recompiled version did): - MythBuntu to USB stick using unetbootin: shows Kernel panic - not synching: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(104,0) - MythBuntu to a second USB stick unetbootin, same - Squeeze netinst using cat $image.iso /dev/sdb (device of stick): doesn't even show boot menu - Squeeze netinst using unetbootin: iirc not even the boot menu showed up Then I tried compiling usb-creator from ubuntu, from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/usb-creator/0.2.31, on Squeeze, - at first using dpkg-buildpackage, but there are dependencies on a newer python-gobject and on gir1.2-gtk-3.0 and other libs, so I gave up, - using make, then running bin/usb-creator-gtk, gave same message as below, - using python setup.py install then: $ usb-creator-gtk Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/usb-creator-gtk, line 25, inmodule from usbcreator.frontends.gtk import GtkFrontend File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/usbcreator/frontends/gtk/__init__.py, line 1, inmodule from frontend import GtkFrontend File /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/usbcreator/frontends/gtk/frontend.py, line 21, inmodule from gi.repository import GLib ImportError: No module named gi.repository Since I don't know what that issue is, I've given up. Could you help me in any of these attempts? Of course I don't expect you to help me debug problems with Mythbuntu or XMBC, but as you see there are already multiple Debian-only problems I'm dealing with. Thanks Christian. Hi, are you sure you should be using IA64 netinst ISO? what kind of CPU do you have? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e419786.9040...@gmail.com
Re: 3.0 kernel fails to compile
Dne 3.8.2011 2:30, piše Dave Witbrodt: On 08/02/2011 07:45 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 22:44:46 -0400 (EDT), Dave Witbrodt wrote: My understanding is that the Debian Kernel Team recommends using the 'make deb-pkg' target now; they argued that kernel-package should be considered deprecated, but Manoj wanted to continue supporting it since so many people have used it for so long and there is nothing really wrong with it (until now, though it's probably easy to fix). I just finished building my first linux-3.0 custom kernel using the deb-pkg target, and everything works fine. (I frequently test cutting-edge upstream changes to the radeon driver and mesa, and these often involve changes to the radeon DRM in the kernel.) I was a long-time user of make-kpkg, but since I learned how to use the in-kernel deb-pkg target I have been taking the Debian Kernel Team's advice and recommending building custom kernels that way. Actually, the kernel team recommends yet another method, which involves downloading the source package with, for example, apt-get --only-source source linux-2.6 then using dpkg-buildpackage to build it. But that has a number of drawbacks. For one, only official Debian source packages (and usually, only the latest one, unless source packages are available at snapshot.debian.org) may be used. Second, the modified package usually replaces the stock package, and I like to keep my old kernel as a backout. We're not really talking about the same thing. The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook includes both a method for building kernels identical (or nearly identical) to those produced by the Debian Kernel Team and a method for building custom kernels (which may vary greatly from Debian kernels). For those interested, the handbook is available on the web at http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org or can be installed via the debian-kernel-handbook package in Wheezy or Sid. No mention of 'dpkg-buildpackage' even occurs in ch. 4 of the handbook. (I do use 'dpkg-buildpackage' frequently to build other software packages, such as the X server, the radeon driver, libdrm, and mesa, but not the kernel.) I use the method described in section 4.5 of the handbook (with some personal modifications, of course) even though I am often building kernels from upstream git repos. (Section 4.6 describes this, but simply refers back to the process in section 4.5 for the actual build once the sources are obtained and configured.) I don't like make deb-pkg that well for a number of reasons. One of them is that I get a linux-headers-* package and a libc-dev package too, whether I want them or not. make-kpkg is more flexible. I only get the packages that I want. I agree that this is a lack of flexibility. The reason I am not bothered by it is that the in-kernel deb-pkg target builds all of those packages extremely efficiently, and my Phenom II quad core builds my custom kernel and all of the DEB packages in just under 3 minutes when I build using 5 parallel processes. For me, your criticism here is quite underwhelming; you might simply file a wishlist bug report to see whether the Kernel Team is willing to provide some of the extra flexibility you are asking for. It may be considered deprecated by the kernel team, but it is still supported by Manoj Srivastava, the upstream author and Debian Package Maintainer for kernel-package. See http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm for a complete explanation of my kernel-building methodology and the reasons behind it. You are of course entitled to disagree with me. ;-) Hi, I have never used make deb-pkg, will have to try it, but... I've read it. I do disagree, but not strongly. I was grateful for the existence of 'kernel-package' and Manoj's work supporting it, and always will be. But times change, and having an in-kernel build target which produces DEBs means that breakage becomes an upstream problem instead of a Debian-only problem. The fact that 'kernel-package' cannot (for the moment) build 3.0 kernels while the upstream deb-pkg makefile target _can_ demonstrates the benefits of having the DEB build code in the kernel itself. sniped ... I just built a 3.0 kernel (from www.kernel.org ) using kernel-package, and I've had one running Ubuntu with 3.0 kernel, also built by kernel-package, since the day it was released. So I am really not in a hurry for a change from kernel-package, which I've been using for a few years now. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e391782.1080...@gmail.com
Re: Problems with PAE kernel sort of solved.
Dne 29.7.2011 17:02, piše Frank McCormick: On 29/07/11 10:14 AM, Camaleón wrote: Yes, that I guess is why the system now sees only one CPU when I have a dual core. But I still fail to understand why turning off hyper-threading allows the kernel (supposedly who only major change is use of the PAE extension) to boot when it wouldn't before. Because PAE is disabled? cat /proc/cpuinfo show PAE is not disabled in this machine. For some weird reason the PAE kernel can't boot with hyper-threading enabled. BTW I don't have a dual-core cpu as I once thought. Something seems seriously broken with your machine and PAE (HT/PAE combo), dunno what nor why because your system looks PAE-aware and capable :-? I have since discovered a couple of other people who have the same problem...all on machines using older (circa 2002) Intel boards and cpu's. Anyway I guess I am barking up the wrong tree - the kernel developers seem comfortable with their assumption that it's a hardware fault on my machine. Could be, or maybe not. Maybe... not enough data to tell but a BIOS update may help, I would check it out, just in case you haven't already done. Been there..done that :) The BIOS is the latest available, and Intel naturally has dropped support for this MB. My interim solution has been to boot the 2.6.38 kernels in Sid, and/or Ubuntu Maverick and Natty on the other partitions. Hi, I wasn't paying attention through the whole thread, but is there a particular reason that requires you to use a PAE kernel? (if you have already answered this and I missed it, I apologize.) BTW: there is 2.6.38 kernel in squeeze-backports. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e32de56.7060...@gmail.com
Re: Debian mp3 Cds
Dne 29.7.2011 17:48, piše Michael Checca: (...) If you want to rip songs from a cd, look into sound-juicer. (...) Hi, for ripping Audio-CDs, I would recommend rubyripper+lame(for mp3 enconding). Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e32e0c7.9020...@gmail.com
Re: Problems with PAE kernel sort of solved.
Dne 29.7.2011 18:41, piše Frank McCormick: (...) No particular reason, it's just that the kernel developers decided at one point to start using PAE which is now the only kernel available in the 3.0 series. However I can still and do boot 2.6.38 which does not have PAE turned on. Hi, So you don't need PAE, you just have it because there is no 3.0 kernel for the i386 architecture without it. How about compiling a kernel from the www.kernel.org site yourself that way it wouldn't have PAE enabled. Use this walkthrough: http://www.howtoforge.com/kernel_compilation_debian_etch (just when you copy a config file copy the one without PAE(2.6.38 in your case)) Hope that helps. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e32e660.4020...@gmail.com
Re: No Mirror for Squeeze i386?
Dne 29.7.2011 19:56, piše Thomas H. George: I downloaded Squeeze i386 CD #1 and used it to install a minimal system from the CD only. There are a few packages I wish to install in this minimal system but apt-get update reports 404 Not Found [IP 130.39.149.226 30] when looking for i386 packages. Should it be looking for 696 packages? If so, how do I modify sources.list to redirect it? Hi, Have you tried using different mirror? Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e32f552.6080...@gmail.com
Re: Best practices for current Chrome/Chromium and/or Firefox/Icewasel in squeeze?
Dne 27.7.2011 2:05, piše Dr. Ed Morbius: I've recently been made aware of some of the benefits of the Chrome / Chromium and Firefox. Running Squeeze, the most recent Chromium release is from May 13, and Firefox 5 isn't available either. I'd like to manage either / both from my package repos, but be reasonably current. What's best practices? Method or pointer to docs appreciated. Thanks. Hi, I don't know about Chromium because I don't use it, but for current Iceweasel add the next line to sources.list deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-release Then you add the gpg key with the next command: gpg --export -a 06C4AE2A | sudo apt-key add - Then you update the APT sources, and then you do this: sudo apt-get install -t squeeze-backports iceweasel One Iceweasel 5.0 installed. Cheers, Dejan
OT: Re: BoF?
Dne 26.7.2011 16:55, piše Sudev Barar: On 26-Jul-2011 8:10 PM, T o n g mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com mailto:mlist4sunt...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, What does BoF stands for? Birds of feather - common interest group ?? -- Sudev Hi, in our country we once had an electronics store named BoF (= building of fun) :) Cheers, Dejan
Icedove 5.0 - when?
Hi, I am sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this(if it is could you point me to right one?). But I was wondering if or rather when will Debian Mozilla Team release a debranded version of Thunderbird = Icedove? Or was Icedove discontinued? Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c3b62.8090...@gmail.com
Re: Icedove 5.0 - when?
Dne 24.7.2011 17:43, piše Camaleón: On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:33:54 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: I am sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this(if it is could you point me to right one?). But I was wondering if or rather when will Debian Mozilla Team release a debranded version of Thunderbird = Icedove? Or was Icedove discontinued? I, running lenny, finally had to install it from Mozilla site, both, Firefox and Thunderbird and now I'm a happy camper again :-) Greetings, Hi, I could do that, but since I am running Debian, I for one would like the Icedove 5.0, I am currently running 3.1.11 and I can certainly wait awhile longer, it just seems strange to me since Iceweasel 5.0 is avaible, that Icedove is not. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c45e4.4040...@gmail.com
Re: 6rd vs. interfaces(5)
Dne 22.7.2011 11:09, piše Ivan Shmakov: Rick Thomasrbtho...@pobox.com writes: On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: […] And in the case of NAT'ed IPv4, it's still possible to register for a free-of-charge tunnel service at http://sixxs.net/ and use AICCU (# apt-get install aiccu.) This (SIXXS) is what I use at home. It works a treat for me. Easy to set up. Easy to use. Fully connected to the IPv6 internet. One of the ISP's here has finally started to offer IPv6, namely: 6to4 (AIUI, they run their own gateway for that) and 6rd. Unfortunately, 6rd is only available for Linux 2.6.33 and later (as per Wikipedia), which isn't in Squeeze. But anyway, is there a way to add a 6rd tunnel to interfaces(5)? TIA. Hi, you can install 2.6.38 from squeeze-backports[1], works perfectly. Cheers, Dejan [1]http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e29400f.5040...@gmail.com
Re: GDM3 login screen user list, was Re: Setting up FTP server with specific username and password - SOLVED
Dne 21.7.2011 0:33, piše Rob Owens: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:22:24AM +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: I would like to thank everybody for their help, my FTP is up and running. After reviewing a few differentFTP servers, I decided on Proftpd-basic, which with gadmin-proftpd was easy to set-up just the way I wanted. I restricted, jadjada user to directory /home/pijanc/tomato , I've also created a few other users with similar folders under /home/pijanc/folder , and the best thing I don't have those username under login gdm3, which is nice, because then gdm3 layout would be bloated and I set their shells to /dev/null , which as i understand it correctly means that they can't use things like ssh or am I mistaken? FYI, you can also unbloat the gdm3 login screen by putting this in /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf: [greeter] Exclude = someuser1,someuser2 I believe you can also specify Include, but I haven't tested it. -Rob Hi, I remember trying that on my Ubuntu machine and I remember it didn't work. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e27e806.6060...@gmail.com
Re: 32bit vs 64bit
Dne 21.7.2011 22:57, piše Brad Alexander: This is sort of an odd question, but my desktop is a core2duo machine, which means it is capable of 32 or 64 bit operation. The last time I rebuilt the machine in 2007, there were still a number of deficiencies in 64bit Linux. However, some time in the intervening time, my clock started running fast, gaining, say, 15 minutes per hour, even though ntp was running. I was advised to install the amd64 kernel. Thus I wound up with a franken-machine with a 64bit kernel and 32bit userland. One of the problems with this configuration is that apps which use the kernel and userland versions get confused. For instance, I can install the amd64 version of VirtualBox, but it will not start because it gives me wrong architecture... Well, now 64bit is as stable as 32bit, and I want to upgrade my machine to 64bit userland. Is there a reliable way to upgrade existing packages? Or is a complete rebuild (nuke and pave) the best way? I know I could probably wget every package on my system with a wget script and do a dpkg -i * but that seems frought with danger. On the other hand, doing a nuke and pave means I would be without the machine for the duration of the build, plus the post-install configuration means I have to labor to get things back to the way I like them. Is there some middle ground? thanks, --b Hi, I would recommend on backing up your $HOME folder(~) and any .conf files you modified and then do a clean install, also you can save package selections so that you can just install them on a new 64-bit OS like this: 1. On the old system you do:* /dpkg --get-selections ~/my-packages/* (my-packages being the file that you save selection to) 2. On the new system you do: /*sudo dpkg --set-selections my-packages sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade*/ (don't forget to copy my-packages file :) ) That's what I did on my Ubuntu laptop and worked perfectly, but since Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian it shouldn't be a problem. Cheers, Dejan
Setting up FTP server with specific username and password
Hi, I am trying to set up a FTP server, with specific username and password, because i have a router backup set up, to backup every hour now on Windows 7 I have FTP Server set-up like this: username: jadjada password: supersecret (btw: the user/pass above are made up, and should be used just as an example) Now I'd ilke the same set-up on my debian squeeze, and if possible the upload folder to be /home/pijanc/tomato. pijanc is my username on debian. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e26c890.3070...@gmail.com
Setting up FTP server with specific username and password on Debian Squeeze
Hi, I am trying to set up a FTP server, with specific username and password, because i have a router backup set up, to backup every hour now on Windows 7 I have FTP Server set-up like this: username: jadjada password: supersecret (btw: the user/pass above are made up, and should be used just as an example) Now I'd ilke the same set-up on my debian squeeze, and if possible the upload folder to be /home/pijanc/tomato. pijanc is my username on debian. Cheers, Dejan P.S.: I am sorry, if this is double posting, but I just realyzed that the first message was accedently sent as a reply to another message or so my Icedove tells me, so I am resending it. This time I made sure it was composed as a new mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e270199.7030...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up FTP server with specific username and password - SOLVED
S, Robert Blair Mason Jr. piše: On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:19:15 +0100 Alan Chandlera...@chandlerfamily.org.uk wrote: On 20/07/11 13:22, Dejan Ribič wrote: Hi, I am trying to set up a FTP server, with specific username and password, because i have a router backup set up, to backup every hour now on Windows 7 I have FTP Server set-up like this: username: jadjada password: supersecret (btw: the user/pass above are made up, and should be used just as an example) Now I'd ilke the same set-up on my debian squeeze, and if possible the upload folder to be /home/pijanc/tomato. pijanc is my username on debian. Cheers, Dejan Hijacking another thread will make it difficult for others to notice and reply to you. There are a range of ftp server packages in Debian you can use. I don't use one myself, so can't provide any specific recommendation. However... ...Start Aptitude, and then search for the virtual package ftp-server. This lists a range of packages. Check each one's description and follow links to related web sites and see if that helps you choose. I would recommend vsftpd. It's fast, secure, supports encryption, and has a very simple (option=value) configuration file format. First off, you would need to add a user 'jadjada' with password 'supersecret' to your debian system. Next, by default each user sees the entire filesystem when they are in the FTP client - they just start in their home directory. They only run into a wall when they try to enter a directory they are not allowed to traverse or when they try to read to/write to a file they do not have permissions to do so. However, if you want only a small portion of the filesystem to be visible to the user, you are able to put certain users in a chroot jail. What this means is that the end user sees a certain folder (such as /home/pijanc/tomato) as the root / of the filesystem. So what a user in FTP sees as /foo/bar is actually /home/pijanc/tomato/foo/bar. This is a good way to go for anonymous users or for users whom you don't completely trust. However, if it's just you or somebody you know personally it's overkill as long as you haven't done anything completely stupid with file permissions. Going back to vsftpd- its configuration file is /etc/vsftpd.conf . The version installed by debian is loaded with comments and some basic values that should make a sane default installation and easy editing of some basic parameters. If you need anything more complex, just ask or google. The manpage (to see type 'man vsftpd.conf') is a pretty good reference for individual commands if you are unsure of what a particular line in the configuration file does. This is as I understand it; however, I am NOT a guru and if I have included any misconceptions or false information in here I hope someone else will correct me :D -- rbmj Hi, I would like to thank everybody for their help, my FTP is up and running. After reviewing a few differentFTP servers, I decided on Proftpd-basic, which with gadmin-proftpd was easy to set-up just the way I wanted. I restricted, jadjada user to directory /home/pijanc/tomato , I've also created a few other users with similar folders under /home/pijanc/folder , and the best thing I don't have those username under login gdm3, which is nice, because then gdm3 layout would be bloated and I set their shells to /dev/null , which as i understand it correctly means that they can't use things like ssh or am I mistaken? Cheers, Dejan P.S.: Sorry about hijacking the thread, it was a mistake won't happen again
Re: Debian on x86.
S, stayvoid stayvoid piše: My processor is x86. Which one should I download? http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/ My OS is Windows XP and I need to make a backup of my data, but I also want to use this data in the future (on Debian). Could you recommend me something? Are there any software solutions (not just copy and paste)? Windows-based ntbackup is not working in that way. Hi, if your processor is 32-bit then use the i386 ones, if it's 64-bit(x86_64) use amd64, I personally recommend the netinst one (as long as you have decent network connection, which I am assuming you do) 32bit: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-i386-netinst.iso 64bit http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.2.1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso About the backup, well you could use archive software like WinZip to make archives and then just extract them under Linux. Cheers, Dejan
Re: need help with Iceweasel.
Dne 13.7.2011 4:17, piše Juan R. de Silva: I found on wiki.debian.org reference to Debian Mozilla Team and installed Iceweasel 5.0 from them. I used it until started getting package not found errors. On their web site I found, all packages offered until recently gone. Some packages for lower versions still offered. However neither of them are actually available if you run apt-get. No announces/explanations. I've removed their package and downgraded to stable Iceweasel 3.5.16, which unfortunately does not support 2 Firefox Add-ons of vital importance for me. I'd love to use Iceweasel but badly need version 4 or higher. Is there any reliable solution for this? Another question... Is Debian Mozilla Team officially associated with Debian.org? I would be surprised if the answer is yes. The sense of responsibility of whoever is behind of this name is just way below the zero. Hi, can you post the /etc/apt/sources.list content( just the part about mozilla.debian.net), because they recently changed the repo a little, I mean all packages are still there just in different folder, thats probably why apt(aptitude) doesn't find it. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e1d7b14.8040...@gmail.com
Re: Want to build new Debian PC. Is IDE interface gone?
On 10. 07. 2011 21:09, mark wrote: Hi, I'm looking for components for a new PC to install debian on. I've been looking at motherboards (MSI Gigabyte) and it seems that the IDE interface no longer exists. Is no more IDE interface the new direction for PCs so that I will have to buy a SATA burner? Thanks, Mark Hi, You can still get an IDE interface on some motherboards, although it is becoming more and more difficult. Is there any particular reason for wanting/needing IDE? Cheers, Dejan Ribič
Workspace switcher like in Ubuntu(Classic) 11.04
Hi, I am new to this list, so if my issue has been answered, please just point me to the right place. Like the subject says i would like to have a workspace switcher like the one that is in Ubuntu(which we use at work) on my Debian machine at home. I am also adding a screenshot of the switcher. Please help me. Link: a href=http://www.shrani.si/?1L/4E/2ojhTBN0/zaslonskaslika.png;img src= http://www.shrani.si/t/1L/4E/2ojhTBN0/zaslonskaslika.jpg; style=border: 0px; alt=Shrani.si//a Cheers, Dejan Ribič
Re: Workspace switcher like in Ubuntu(Classic) 11.04
Hi, no I meant a sliding effect which I got it working with Compiz, however now I have a problem with switcher, because there are only 2 workspaces(I am used to working with 4) and no way to set it to 4(I tried the Perferences) Cheers, Dejan Ribič 2011/7/8 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:29:46 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: I am new to this list, so if my issue has been answered, please just point me to the right place. Like the subject says i would like to have a workspace switcher like the one that is in Ubuntu(which we use at work) on my Debian machine at home. I am also adding a screenshot of the switcher. Please help me. (...) Workspace switcher? You mean this small applet? http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/overview-workspaces.html.en It's the same than in Ubuntu, I guess. Right-click on the bottom bar → add to panel → workspace switcher. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.08.17.32...@gmail.com
Re: Workspace switcher like in Ubuntu(Classic) 11.04
Great. Thx. Cheers, Dejan Ribič 2011/7/8 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:58:25 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: 2011/7/8 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 18:29:46 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: I am new to this list, so if my issue has been answered, please just point me to the right place. Like the subject says i would like to have a workspace switcher like the one that is in Ubuntu(which we use at work) on my Debian machine at home. I am also adding a screenshot of the switcher. Please help me. (...) Workspace switcher? You mean this small applet? http://library.gnome.org/users/user-guide/stable/overview-workspaces.html.en It's the same than in Ubuntu, I guess. Right-click on the bottom bar → add to panel → workspace switcher. no I meant a sliding effect which I got it working with Compiz, however now I have a problem with switcher, because there are only 2 workspaces(I am used to working with 4) and no way to set it to 4(I tried the Perferences) IIRC, Compiz has a configuration tool (ccsm) from where you can select the desired spaces (general options / desktop size or something similiar :-?) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.08.19.03...@gmail.com
